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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for listening to Pictures Media Radio. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Policy and Rights, the show about Dolcorent Policy and Human Rights.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Policy and Right here Fictions Media Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host. Michael cloggs. Oh, yeah, as we know

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<v Speaker 1>that that it's one of the one of the the

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<v Speaker 1>problems that we're having right now is of course war

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been a part of human life for well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a part of human life for as long

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<v Speaker 1>as there's actually been human beings in disagreement that rather

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<v Speaker 1>than you using words and other ways of various communications,

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<v Speaker 1>that we just try to kill each other. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's out there and set Why is it that in

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<v Speaker 1>our modern error of humanity that everything has to be

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<v Speaker 1>either polarized or politicized and Palestine versus Israel, Israel versus Lebanon, Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>versus versus Iran is isn't any different. It is becoming

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<v Speaker 1>a a political campaign when we look at look at

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<v Speaker 1>things that there there are innocent people dying. The media

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to paint it as that the people have

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<v Speaker 1>voted in terrorists because they want terrorists to run their country,

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<v Speaker 1>when that's not true that in many cases that warlord

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<v Speaker 1>factions who have taken over the territory and either you

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<v Speaker 1>vote the way they want you to or they will

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<v Speaker 1>flat out kill you, or that or that there's other

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<v Speaker 1>economic reasons why your vote vote was was curbed. And

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<v Speaker 1>you heard in a previous episode when I was speaking

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<v Speaker 1>with another friend who is actually in Lebanon, who does

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<v Speaker 1>does not stand with He doesn't stand for Israel, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>stand against Isel. He believes that Israel has to remain

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<v Speaker 1>as a state. We shouldn't go backwards, he but he

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, he believes that Palestine should have

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<v Speaker 1>a place itself and that the Hamas on October seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, they did wrong and they should suffer

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<v Speaker 1>a consequence for the wrongdoings that they did. But that

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be polarized or politicized. That should just be a

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<v Speaker 1>thing that we know that if you take hostages, you

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<v Speaker 1>kill people, that there is a consequence. The same as

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<v Speaker 1>if you fire rockets at another country, there is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a consequence. If you say that you want peace,

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<v Speaker 1>but you keep buying weapons and you keep firing those

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<v Speaker 1>weapons off, then there might be a problem with you

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<v Speaker 1>saying that you want peace. Okay, so at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>when we look at other countries that are actually building

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<v Speaker 1>and supplying those same weapons, you say you want peace,

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<v Speaker 1>then you should be limiting the number of weapons that

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<v Speaker 1>are built and sold. That it should be a industry

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<v Speaker 1>that has a very limited a very limited profit margin,

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<v Speaker 1>because there is a control on how many weapons are

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<v Speaker 1>actually out there. But you say that you want peace,

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<v Speaker 1>and you say that you don't want the wars to continue, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>then we're gonna add another layer to this. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>add a layer because you're gonna hear in the in

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, Pierre Pouvier and Justin Trudeau as they speak

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<v Speaker 1>about the actions that happened in in in Palestine and

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<v Speaker 1>Israel from last year and how the war is war

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<v Speaker 1>there is now a year old, and how they're commemorating

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<v Speaker 1>and memorializing the people who were killed a year ago

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<v Speaker 1>in Palestine in Israel because the Hamas did something. They

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<v Speaker 1>are also saying that asking for the mayors and the

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<v Speaker 1>premiers across Canada to do something about the anti sematic protest.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's how they're defining the anti sematic protests. If

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<v Speaker 1>you are saying that another country besides Israel deserves equal rights,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're being anti semitic. There is is along with us.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to share a couple a couple of photographs

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<v Speaker 1>that a friend of mine, Bob Homer, took at a

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<v Speaker 1>rally in Vancouver, asking for the United Nations to come

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<v Speaker 1>up with a solution so that Palestine has a free state,

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<v Speaker 1>that Palestine will will also be recognized equally as a country.

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<v Speaker 1>And those types of rallies are now to be deemed,

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<v Speaker 1>according to Justin Trudeau and Pierre Pouvier, any somatic that

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<v Speaker 1>it shouldn't happen, and Justin Trudeau, as the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 1>of Canada is asking premiers and mayors to limit those protests.

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<v Speaker 1>That is one another another layer, another complete layer. We're

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<v Speaker 1>also going to hear as Melody jo Lay speaks about

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<v Speaker 1>some of the things that Pierre Pouvier said, and she

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<v Speaker 1>is now campaigning for the Liberal government against the Conservative

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<v Speaker 1>government because she starts speaking about white supremacy. See people,

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<v Speaker 1>they could be sitting in Parliament on the Conservative side

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<v Speaker 1>of the table. Okay, So she accuses mister Povier of

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<v Speaker 1>speaking out of both sides, that he does not curb

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<v Speaker 1>anti symiticism in his party. So How can he stand

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<v Speaker 1>in front of a crowd of people and say that

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<v Speaker 1>he is in support of the Jewish people when he

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<v Speaker 1>won't curb the white supremacy people that are or get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of the the white supremacy people that are in

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<v Speaker 1>his party. Why does it have to turn into a

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<v Speaker 1>political campaign? Okay, simply put, and this is my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>and take it. Take it for as my opinion and

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily as as fact. Even though there are some facts.

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<v Speaker 2>Fact that.

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<v Speaker 1>The the whole Zionist movement in the Middle East started

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<v Speaker 1>well over one hundred years ago. Matter of fact, he

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<v Speaker 1>can be it might be dated as far back as

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<v Speaker 1>the eighteen nineties. And another fact that at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of World War Two that the United Nations okay, at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, the United Nations was mostly the United States

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<v Speaker 1>and the United Kingdom coming together and deciding that there

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<v Speaker 1>should be a Jewish state and placing that Jewish state

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<v Speaker 1>rights back in the middle of the Middle East and

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<v Speaker 1>landing it in what we now know as Palestine. They

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<v Speaker 1>rounded people up into camps and they moved them from

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<v Speaker 1>their homes to other places around the Middle East. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And next next fact, okay, that there are probably in

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<v Speaker 1>the Middle East, there are there are let's look at

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<v Speaker 1>Let's look at Lebanon for an example. Okay, Lebanon is

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<v Speaker 1>about sixty percent of the people there practice some form

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<v Speaker 1>of Christianity. Well, let's that's set for a second, and

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<v Speaker 1>let's think about what we here being reported to us

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<v Speaker 1>by other media sources. They're saying that it is a

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<v Speaker 1>completely Islamic state and that other religions such as Christianity

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<v Speaker 1>and Judaism aren't allowed to be practiced. But yes, Christianity

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<v Speaker 1>and Judaism are openly practiced in Lebanon. That before they

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<v Speaker 1>created the state of Israel out of as part of

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<v Speaker 1>what was Palestine, that there were already Jewish people living

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<v Speaker 1>in that area before they created it, and they welcomed

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<v Speaker 1>the Desionist movement to join in their community and live

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<v Speaker 1>peacefully among everyone who is there. Well, what happened? Why

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<v Speaker 1>is it that we see what we do today? If

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<v Speaker 1>those were if if what I just said is even

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<v Speaker 1>remotely true, So who is and I leave you with

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<v Speaker 1>this question, who is really promoting a war and who

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<v Speaker 1>and what owns most of the industry that creates the

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<v Speaker 1>weapons of war today? Okay, so w we we are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hear some recordings today. Uh from like I said, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to hear from Justin Trudeau and Perre or

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<v Speaker 1>Povier as they were added address a very needed address.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me let me make sure that we got this straight,

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<v Speaker 1>a very needed address on what is happening in the

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<v Speaker 1>Middle East and that we do actually need to curb

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<v Speaker 1>any bigotry towards the Jewish people in Canada, the United

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<v Speaker 1>States or anywhere else in the world. That does need

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<v Speaker 1>to actually happen. We don't need to see synagogues being

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<v Speaker 1>blown up or or defamed in in any way, the

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<v Speaker 1>same as we should not see any mosque or church

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<v Speaker 1>have that happen, or any other religious center be destroyed

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<v Speaker 1>or defamed. No, that is wrong. So this, this speech

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<v Speaker 1>does need to happen because we do need to speak

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<v Speaker 1>to people so they understand that bigotry is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be tolerated anywhere in the world. Okay, So we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hear from Justin Trudeau and Pierre Povier as they

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<v Speaker 1>do actually make some really important statements about bigotry. Were

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<v Speaker 1>also are gonna hear from Antonio Guerrerez as he is

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<v Speaker 1>going to make a statement about the happenings and what

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<v Speaker 1>is ongoing in the Middle East. And we're also gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hear from uh Melanie jolt As she is speaking about

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<v Speaker 1>again what is happening in the Middle East and the

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<v Speaker 1>and they all are gonna make important statements. Understand the

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<v Speaker 1>importance of eliminating bigotry in the world and the the

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<v Speaker 1>importance of eliminating war in our world. As you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to what these global leaders have to say out what

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<v Speaker 1>is happening in our world right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Good afternoon.

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<v Speaker 4>Second Chary John makes some remarks.

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<v Speaker 3>Then we'll have time for one or two questions.

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<v Speaker 5>The nightmare in Gaza is now entering an atrocious Abomino

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<v Speaker 5>noble second year. This has been a year of crisis,

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<v Speaker 5>humanitarian crisis, political crisis, diplomatic crisis, and the moral crisis

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<v Speaker 5>over the last year. Following the horrific terror attacks perpetrated

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<v Speaker 5>by Hamas on seven October, Gaza has become ground zero

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<v Speaker 5>to a level of human suffering that is hard to fattom.

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<v Speaker 5>More than forty one thousand peoples have been reportedly killed,

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<v Speaker 5>mostly women and children. Thousands more are missing and believed

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<v Speaker 5>to be tre apt under the rubble. Virtually the entire

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<v Speaker 5>population has been displaced, and no part of Gaza has

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<v Speaker 5>been spared. Generalists have been killed at a level unseen

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<v Speaker 5>in any conflict in modern times, and humanitarians, those who

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<v Speaker 5>have dedicated their lives to helping others, are facing unprecedented

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<v Speaker 5>epic dangers. A record number, including so many members of

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<v Speaker 5>our Yun family, have paid with their lives. The vast

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<v Speaker 5>majority of those killed were part of the backbone of

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<v Speaker 5>humanitary relief operations in Gaza Undhua in the midst of

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<v Speaker 5>all the upheaval. Undua moderan ever, is indispensable. Undua moder

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<v Speaker 5>than ever is irreplaceable. That is why I've written directly

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<v Speaker 5>to Israeli Prime Minister Benjaminitaniau to express profound concern about

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<v Speaker 5>draft legislation that could prevent UNRU from continuing its essential

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<v Speaker 5>work in the occupied Palestinian territory. Such a measure would

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<v Speaker 5>suffocate efforts to its human suffering intentions in Gaza and

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<v Speaker 5>indeed the entire occupied Palestinian territory. It would be a

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<v Speaker 5>catastrophe in what is already an an mitigated disaster. Let's

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<v Speaker 5>be clear in practical terms what such a measure would

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<v Speaker 5>mean operationally. The legislation would likely deal a terrible blow

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<v Speaker 5>to the international humanitarian response in Gaza. Rous activities are

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<v Speaker 5>integral to that response. It's not feasible to isolate to

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<v Speaker 5>any an agency from the others. It would effectively end

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<v Speaker 5>coordination to protective and convoys, offices and shelters serving hundreds

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<v Speaker 5>of thousands of people. Without UGU, the delivery of food, shelter,

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<v Speaker 5>and else care to most Gazes population would grind to

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<v Speaker 5>a hole. Without UNDRU, Gazza's six hundred sixty thousand children

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<v Speaker 5>would lose the only entity that is able to restart education,

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<v Speaker 5>risking the faith of an entire generation. And without UNDRUA

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<v Speaker 5>many health, education and social services would also end in

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<v Speaker 5>the occupied West Bank, including is Jerusalem. If approved, such

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<v Speaker 5>legislation would be diametrically opposed to the end Charter and

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<v Speaker 5>in violation of Israel's obligations under international law. National legislation

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<v Speaker 5>cannot alter those obligations, and politically, such legislation would be

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<v Speaker 5>an enormous setback to sustainable peace efforts and to a

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<v Speaker 5>Tuesday solution, fending even more instability and insecurity. This draft

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<v Speaker 5>legislation comes at the situation in which Gazza is in

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<v Speaker 5>a death spiral. The latest developments in the North are

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<v Speaker 5>especially dire. We are witnessing a clear intensification of military

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<v Speaker 5>operations by Israel. Residential areas have been attacked, hospitals ordered

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<v Speaker 5>to evacuate, an electricity katoff with no fuel or commercial

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<v Speaker 5>goods allowed in Around four hundred thousand people are being

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<v Speaker 5>pressed yet again to move south to an area that

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<v Speaker 5>is overcrowded, polluted, and lacking the basics for survival. Consider

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<v Speaker 5>the situation for a family in the Jabali refugee camp

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<v Speaker 5>in the North. They were ordered to leave their homes

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<v Speaker 5>in October twenty twenty three active operations subsided and they returned.

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<v Speaker 5>They were runs again ordered to evacuate. In December twenty

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<v Speaker 5>twenty three, active operations subsided and they returned. They were

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<v Speaker 5>ordered again to evacuate. In May twenty two twenty four,

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<v Speaker 5>they were once again ordered to evacuate. The conclusion is

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<v Speaker 5>clear there is something fundamentally wrong in the way this

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<v Speaker 5>war is being conducted. Ordering civilians to evacuate does not

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<v Speaker 5>keep them safe. If they have no safe place to

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<v Speaker 5>go and no shelter, food, medicine, or water, and no

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<v Speaker 5>place is safe in Gaza, and no one is safe.

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<v Speaker 5>International law is unambiguous. Civilians everywhere must be respected and protected,

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<v Speaker 5>and that essential needs must be met, including true humanitarian assistance.

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<v Speaker 5>All ostriches must be released, and I strongly condemn all

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<v Speaker 5>violations of international humanitarian law in Gaza. Meanwhile, southern Gaza

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<v Speaker 5>the Keremshalom crossing, where humanitarians face active hostilities and violent

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<v Speaker 5>order and safety. I've worked for months of the risks

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<v Speaker 5>of the conflict spreading, and the Middle East is a

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<v Speaker 5>powder keg with many parties holding the match. The situation

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<v Speaker 5>in the occupied West Bank is boiling over, and now

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<v Speaker 5>in Lebanon, attacks including on civilians, are threatening the entire region.

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<v Speaker 5>Over the last few days, exchanges a fire between as

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<v Speaker 5>Ball and others in Lebanon and the Israel Defense forces

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<v Speaker 5>Large scale Israeli strikes deep into Lebanon, including Beirut, have

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<v Speaker 5>and one thousand, five hundred in just the past two

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<v Speaker 5>and zero twenty the two thousand and six war in Lebanon.

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<v Speaker 5>Attacks by Esbula and the other souls of the Blue

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<v Speaker 5>last year. Lebani's authorities report over one million people have

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<v Speaker 5>been displaced in Lebanon and three hundred thousand people have

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<v Speaker 5>northern Israel. Recently, the IVF started in cussions across the

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<v Speaker 5>Blue Line. We are on the verge of an all

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<v Speaker 5>out war in Lebanon, with already devastating consequences, but there

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<v Speaker 5>is still time to stop. The sovereignty and territory integrity

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<v Speaker 5>of all kinds must be respected, and members of our

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<v Speaker 5>their mandates to the extent possible. The mission relies on

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<v Speaker 5>express my gratitude and admiration to our peacekeepers and troop

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<v Speaker 5>contributing countries. The men and women of Unifeel are serving

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<v Speaker 5>in what is today the most challenging environment for peacekeepers anywhere.

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<v Speaker 5>All actors must ensure their safety and security, and we

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<v Speaker 5>must do far more. On the humanitarian front. The four

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<v Speaker 5>hundred twenty six million US dollars in Meditanian ade appeal

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<v Speaker 5>for Lebanon is only twelve percent funded. I urged donors

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<v Speaker 5>to step up. The ladies and gentlemen of the media.

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<v Speaker 5>The conflict in the Middle East is getting worse by

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<v Speaker 5>the hour, and our warnings about the urific impact the

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<v Speaker 5>escalation keep coming to pass. Every air strike, every missile launch,

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<v Speaker 5>every rocket fired pushes peace further out of rich and

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<v Speaker 5>makes the suffering even worse for the millions of civilians

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<v Speaker 5>got in the middle. That is why we cannot and

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<v Speaker 5>will not give up on our calls for an immediate

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<v Speaker 5>ceas fire both in Gaza and Lebanon, the immediate and

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<v Speaker 5>conditional release of hostages, and the immediate life saving gay

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<v Speaker 5>to all those who desperately needed. And that is why

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<v Speaker 5>we cannot and will not give up on our calls

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<v Speaker 5>for irreversible action for a two stage solution between Israel

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<v Speaker 5>and Palestine. All people in the region deserve to live

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Thank you, mister Secretary General naviil abisab Alarabi

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<v Speaker 3>TV station. Yesterday the Iranian Foreign Minister in Beirut said

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<v Speaker 3>for the ceasefire to take place in Lebanon, it should

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<v Speaker 3>first take place in Gaza. Do you think this is

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<v Speaker 3>a constructive position and helps to reach a political solution?

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<v Speaker 3>And what's the first step about seventeen oh one, the

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<v Speaker 3>roadmap to implement seventeen o one, what should be the

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<v Speaker 5>We are asking for a ceasefire both in Gaza and

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Yvonne Marie Irish Television.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you very much. Sexually, General Levon Marie Arty News.

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<v Speaker 6>My question is about you mentioned UNIFIL and the peacekeepers there,

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<v Speaker 6>as you know the Israeli Army. The idea is set

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<v Speaker 6>y five two, where Irish soldiers are currently stationed. What

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<v Speaker 6>are your concerns now as the fighting move forwards, moves

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<v Speaker 5>We are naturally very concerned. Yesterday I had a chance

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<v Speaker 5>to speak with your Prime Minister. And after that I

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<v Speaker 5>did a number of the march with different entities, and

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<v Speaker 5>I can now tell you that those Israeli tanks and

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<v Speaker 5>other armed elements that were around the six fifty two

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<v Speaker 5>positions have left, and I strongly appeal, strongly appeal to

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<v Speaker 5>both parties to fully respect the safety and security of UNIFILM.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, thank you, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 7>Good evening, as far Ron, Thank you, Adam merge U,

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<v Speaker 7>Viksim Usurvivan, the Lata terrorist Gusett, doctor Perpetre Barramas, misur

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<v Speaker 7>Tu Merci Davorgenzi at Ceremoni, solneregrand and Portans. Thank you

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<v Speaker 7>to the parliamentarians from all parties who are putting partisanship

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<v Speaker 7>aside to be here today, including members from my cabinet,

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<v Speaker 7>Ministers Bill Blair, Meleni, Joli rif Errani, Mark Miller, Carriina Gould,

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<v Speaker 7>Gena Suddz, Terry Beach, Camelca, Brandy Bossaneau, Marcy, Ian Ritchie Valdez,

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<v Speaker 7>Ahmed Hussin and Stephen McKinnon, along with MPs Jasser Nacvi,

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<v Speaker 7>Anita Vandenblt, Mari Franz Leland, Julie de Bruson, Valerie Bradford,

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<v Speaker 7>Francesco Serbara, Judy Scrowe, Terry Dugod, Lisa Hepner, Ali Essassi,

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<v Speaker 7>and Joyce Murray. Three hundred and sixty five days ago,

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<v Speaker 7>we were all shaken to our very course. As we

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<v Speaker 7>Canadians woke up on a peaceful autumn morning, Israelis and

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<v Speaker 7>Jews across the globe were living a nightmare. Twelve hundred

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<v Speaker 7>innocents murdered, young revelers with their whole lives, whole lies

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<v Speaker 7>ahead of them, slaughtered, entire communities burnt to the ground,

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<v Speaker 7>children traumatized and orphaned, women raped and mutilated, Families shattered

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<v Speaker 7>and broken. Over two hundred and fifty people forced into

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<v Speaker 4>His single deadliest day for Jews since the Holocaust. I

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<v Speaker 4>want to sit with them for a second. Almost eighty

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<v Speaker 4>years since the end of the Holocaust, almost eighty years

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<v Speaker 4>since we collectively said never again. Terrorist organizations like Hamas,

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<v Speaker 4>like Hezbollah, like the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps still seek

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<v Speaker 4>to harm Jews just because they are Jews. That's not

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<v Speaker 4>being a freedom fighter. It's terrorism, vile, anti Semitic terrorism,

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<v Speaker 4>and it makes me sick to my stomach. But the

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<v Speaker 4>trauma of that day did not end on October eighth.

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<v Speaker 4>What makes this barbaric attack that much more agonizing is

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that you are reliving this nightmare every single day.

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<v Speaker 4>You relive it when cowards shoot and smash the windows

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<v Speaker 4>of your schools and synagogues in the middle of the night.

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<v Speaker 4>You relive it when Antisemites wave the flags of Hamas

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<v Speaker 4>and Hezbollah and the streets of our cities. You relive

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<v Speaker 4>it when too many of our fellow Canadians downplay or

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<v Speaker 4>dismiss your pain, telling you that the generational trauma you

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<v Speaker 4>carry and the anti Semitism you experience somehow isn't real.

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<v Speaker 4>You relive it when the term Zionist is tossed around

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<v Speaker 4>as a profanity, a label for something other than what

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<v Speaker 4>it truly means, believing in the right of Jewish people,

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<v Speaker 4>like all people, to determine their own future, a right

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<v Speaker 4>this government supports and always will. No one in Canada

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<v Speaker 4>should ever be afraid to proudly call themselves a Zionist.

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<v Speaker 4>And somewhat ironically, you relive it when you must conceal

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<v Speaker 4>the location of this very event for fear of violence.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me be frank. I believe it is unacceptable for

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<v Speaker 4>any of this behavior to be normalized. It is incumbent

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<v Speaker 4>on me and on every leader, from premiers to police chiefs,

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<v Speaker 4>to give anti Semitism no quarter, to stop this rising

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<v Speaker 4>hate and to reverse its spread. And yet, in spite

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<v Speaker 4>of the pain that you live with every day, you've

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<v Speaker 4>all shown your remarkable resilience. In the hours immediately after

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<v Speaker 4>October seventh, you came together as a community to stand

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<v Speaker 4>by each other, to help those displaced by the attacks

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<v Speaker 4>and the hostage families going through untold suffering. You've shown

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<v Speaker 4>that the depravity of these terrorists will not break your spirit,

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<v Speaker 4>that they will not take away your joy.

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<v Speaker 8>You continue to.

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<v Speaker 4>Proudly embody the motto that defines what it means to

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<v Speaker 4>be a Jew. I'm Israel Raim, the people of Israel Live.

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<v Speaker 7>Paolo Sutu Jessica, vuignia vischma juzail, Simon kiir vumin and

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<v Speaker 7>parsi de vumain let uttage quistrov gaza sulibiri so in

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<v Speaker 7>in acceptable new devo metrope. That's a conflict, a quat

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<v Speaker 4>Before I conclude, I want to take a step back,

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<v Speaker 4>look beyond the horrifying numbers and statistics, and remember the people.

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<v Speaker 4>Remember Vivian Silver, a Canadian Israeli women's rights and peace

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<v Speaker 4>and Palestinians. Souvenivou Alexandre look game.

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<v Speaker 7>Protegi is ote person Algi Festsivaldo music Nova, souvenivou de

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<v Speaker 7>Netta Epstein, Renamura, Nazzur Trefer that sony rita Canadianiki si

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<v Speaker 4>Remember Judith Weinstein, a compassionate mother of four whose family

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<v Speaker 4>spoke and glowingly about what an incredible person she was

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<v Speaker 4>when I had the honor of meeting them a few

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<v Speaker 4>months ago. Let us remember twelve hundred innocent souls taken

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<v Speaker 4>from us far too soon. May their memory be a blessing.

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<v Speaker 4>But more than that, may their memory be a revolution,

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<v Speaker 4>a revolution to bring about a world where violent jew hatred,

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<v Speaker 4>like the attacks of October seventh, are unimaginable.

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<v Speaker 2>Mercy, the Green.

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<v Speaker 9>Ships shalong, Mercy, thank you. Today our ears are filled

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<v Speaker 9>with the echo of horror. Our eyes are darkened with

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<v Speaker 9>the shade of genocidal.

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<v Speaker 10>Cruelty.

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<v Speaker 9>Three hundred and sixty five days ago, today we saw

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<v Speaker 9>exacted upon the Jewish people the worst and most deadly

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<v Speaker 9>attack since the Holocaust, an attack carried out by a

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<v Speaker 9>genocidal death called Hamas. They targeted, deliberately targeted civilians, children,

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<v Speaker 9>They burned people alive, tortured children in front of their parents,

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<v Speaker 9>They mutilated dead bodies, and then they displayed their cruel, sadistic,

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<v Speaker 9>diabolical horrors in posts that they would put on the Internet,

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<v Speaker 9>not even trying to conceal their evil. And why did

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<v Speaker 9>they do it not because there was an occupying force

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<v Speaker 9>they were trying to expel. Israel had voluntarily expelled itself

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<v Speaker 9>from Gaza fifteen years ago, through the incredibly painful and

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<v Speaker 9>even controversial decision to arrest its own citizens and drag

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<v Speaker 9>them out of the Gaza Strip into Israel proper, leaving

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<v Speaker 9>Hamas the ability to govern that land without any interference

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<v Speaker 9>whatsoever from Israel, but with of course, total occupation by

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<v Speaker 9>the terrorist regime in Tehran. And why now, why at

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<v Speaker 9>this moment, suddenly after fifteen years was it because war

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<v Speaker 9>was breaking out? Exactly the opposite. It was because peace

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<v Speaker 9>was breaking out Israel. Israel had just successfully signed the

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<v Speaker 9>Abraham Accords with multiple Muslim Arab states, with momentum towards

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<v Speaker 9>a potential deal with Saudi Arabia. Imagine that the Jewish

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<v Speaker 9>state signing a peace deal with the home of Mecca

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<v Speaker 9>for everyone, everyone, except for the tyrants of Tehran, for

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<v Speaker 9>which such peace would be their worst nightmare. And so

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<v Speaker 9>to interrupt the potential of that harmony, the instigated, planned, financed,

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<v Speaker 9>and coordinated this direct assault, and since that time have

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<v Speaker 9>unleashed a seven front war on the Israeli people, a

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<v Speaker 9>war that has been relentless and cruel. But before we've

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<v Speaker 9>talked further about that, let us take a moment to

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<v Speaker 9>honor the victims, Let their memory be a blessing, to

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<v Speaker 9>think of the courageous hostages and their families in anguish.

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<v Speaker 10>Bring them home.

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<v Speaker 9>And yet Jews here at this home are revictimized again

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<v Speaker 9>and again, after watching the Jewish homeland torn apart by

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<v Speaker 9>this genocidal attack, now they see the same motives and

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<v Speaker 9>vicious hatred carried out on our very streets, with a

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<v Speaker 9>staggering increase in hate crimes, most of them directed at.

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<v Speaker 10>The Jewish people. Why now, why now.

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 9>We might say, well, of course, because tensions are inflamed

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<v Speaker 9>by the war between Hamas and Israel. But wait, this

435
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<v Speaker 9>is not the first war that Israel has had to fight.

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<v Speaker 9>There have been countless wars where Israel has had to

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<v Speaker 9>defend its very existence, and those wars did not spill

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<v Speaker 9>onto Canadian streets in two thousand. It's true, It's true

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<v Speaker 9>in two thousand and eight, in two thousand and seven,

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<v Speaker 9>two thousand and six, when Israel was forced to fight

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<v Speaker 9>back against Hesbela in Lebanon, there was no violence on

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<v Speaker 9>our streets. We did not have hate crimes overtaking Jewish communities.

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<v Speaker 9>Protests at Jewish hospitals, Jewish homes, Jewish businesses. When there

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<v Speaker 9>was conflict again in twenty fourteen, that did not spill

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<v Speaker 9>into our streets. So why now, Why all of a

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<v Speaker 9>sudden has this hatred found such a home here in Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 10>Some say it's because our people are flawed.

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<v Speaker 9>The government needs to fix the people, censor the people,

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<v Speaker 9>better control and corral the people.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, is it really the people who are the problem.

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<v Speaker 9>It wasn't the people who appointed Laith Maruth an anti

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<v Speaker 9>racism expert after he had said, and.

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<v Speaker 10>I quote, life is too short for shoes with laces.

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<v Speaker 9>Or for entertaining Jewish white supremacists with anything but a

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<v Speaker 9>bullet in the head. Given a government of Canada grant

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<v Speaker 9>this individual supposedly to fight racism, or beard jud'tany appointed

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<v Speaker 9>as the commissioner of the Canadian Human Rights Commission after

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<v Speaker 9>he wrote terror is not an irrational strategy pursued solely

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<v Speaker 9>by fundamentalists with politically and psychologically warped visions of a

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<v Speaker 9>new political, religious, or ideological order. It is, in fact

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<v Speaker 9>a rational and well calculated strategy that is pursued with

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<v Speaker 9>surprisingly high success rates. The head of our human Rights Commission,

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<v Speaker 9>or an Ontario school that forced children to attend an

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<v Speaker 9>anti Israel protest, kids divided and told to wear different

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<v Speaker 9>colors to identify their ethnicity in Canada, My friends, this

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<v Speaker 9>ideology that seeks to divide our people based on raiths

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<v Speaker 9>and ethnicity that has led to these horrifying outbursts of

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<v Speaker 9>hatred are not from the bottom up. They are from

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<v Speaker 9>the top down. And it has been further excentuated by

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<v Speaker 9>a government that has led in someone who appears to

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<v Speaker 9>have been led into Canada and given citizenship to someone

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<v Speaker 9>who appeared to be in a video mutilating a citizen

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<v Speaker 9>on a crucifix in the Middle East on behalf of

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<v Speaker 9>is As, someone who then went on to try and

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<v Speaker 9>stage another attack in Canada. Yet another terrorist came into

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<v Speaker 9>Canada preparing to stage an attack from Canada to Jews

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<v Speaker 9>in New York. All of this well, our tax dollars

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<v Speaker 9>fund Unra, an organization that has helped carry out the

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<v Speaker 9>attacks of nine to eleven October seventh. So when they

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<v Speaker 9>say that the government needs to be the watchman of

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<v Speaker 9>the people, I say, who watches the watchman?

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<v Speaker 10>I say it is not for the government to change

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<v Speaker 10>the people. It is time for the people to change

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<v Speaker 10>the government.

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<v Speaker 9>But I stand here today with you, with my brilliant

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<v Speaker 9>and courageous heroin Deputy Leader, the Great Melissa Lanceman, and reiterate.

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<v Speaker 10>The commitment that I've made to you and that I've

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<v Speaker 10>made to.

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<v Speaker 9>Our Muslim brothers and sisters, and that is that we

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<v Speaker 9>will always take one stand no matter where we are.

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<v Speaker 10>We as conservatives, we'll say the same thing.

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<v Speaker 9>I love the Muslim people, and when I go into

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<v Speaker 9>their mosques, and I do proudly visit their mosque, I

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<v Speaker 9>tell them I am a friend of Israel.

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<v Speaker 10>I say the same things there that I do here.

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<v Speaker 9>We can no longer accept political parties sending one mp

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<v Speaker 9>be into one place to say one thing and another

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<v Speaker 9>MP into a different place to say exactly the opposite.

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<v Speaker 9>We will put behind us this ugly ideology that has

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<v Speaker 9>divided our people, and we will acclaim the country that

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<v Speaker 9>we knew and love, and we will do it based

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<v Speaker 9>on the teachings of the Great Wilfrid Laurie. If you'll mind,

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<v Speaker 9>if you don't mind me praising a liberal. He was

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<v Speaker 9>asked what is Canada's nationality, and he could not list

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<v Speaker 9>an ethnicity or a religion. We were already mixed up

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<v Speaker 9>way back then. We had people from all over the world.

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<v Speaker 9>So we said, Canada is free and freedom is its nationality.

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<v Speaker 9>We united around the idea that didn't matter where you

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<v Speaker 9>came from, it mattered where you were going. We united

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<v Speaker 9>around the idea that you could worship God in any

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<v Speaker 9>way you chose. That you had the freedom to think

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<v Speaker 9>what you wanted, say what you wanted, to be who

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<v Speaker 9>you wanted, and to be left in peace with your family.

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<v Speaker 9>And that is the principle that will unite us again.

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<v Speaker 9>You have my word that I will stand up for

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<v Speaker 9>freedom here at home and around the world. We will

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<v Speaker 9>secure our borders to keep terrorists out.

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<v Speaker 10>We will defe.

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<v Speaker 9>I will make clear to universities that if they spread

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<v Speaker 9>anti Semitism or make Jews feel unsafe and uncomfortable on

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<v Speaker 9>their campuses, they will not be eligible for federal funding.

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<v Speaker 9>We will defund anti Semitic organizations and activists. We will

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<v Speaker 9>defund Unrah and give the money to the Palestinian people

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<v Speaker 9>who are suffering. I will vote against anti Israel resolutions

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<v Speaker 9>at the United Nations. I will back Israel's right to

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<v Speaker 9>defend itself, which includes retaliating against those that attack Israel.

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<v Speaker 9>Israel must be able to prevent Iran from using nuclear weapons.

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<v Speaker 9>If necessary, that means proactively striking Iranian nuclear sites and

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<v Speaker 9>oil installations to defund the terrorist regime. We will keep

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<v Speaker 9>our fists closed to terrorism, but our hands open to peace.

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<v Speaker 9>We must work with the Saudis, the Emiradis, the Qataris,

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<v Speaker 9>and anyone who's willing to talk and work and build

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<v Speaker 9>towards a greater piece, including the permanent recognition of Jewish

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<v Speaker 9>the Jewish State's right to exist as a Jewish state

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<v Speaker 9>now and forever. This is the bright thing future we

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<v Speaker 9>have in store, in a land where all the Abrahamic

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<v Speaker 9>people can enjoy their religious places of worship in peace.

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<v Speaker 10>And in harmony, the way Canada once was.

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<v Speaker 9>That is the way that we can rekindle the memories

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<v Speaker 9>of those brilliant souls that we lost a year ago.

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<v Speaker 9>Today I was speaking with Rabbi Mendel Kaplan, and I asked,

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<v Speaker 9>how do I address the loss and find some glimmer

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<v Speaker 9>of hope in it? And he said that those we

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<v Speaker 9>lost can live on on this world, in this world,

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<v Speaker 9>even as they've passed the next. And I said how

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<v Speaker 9>He said, by carrying on the Jewish traditions that animated them.

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<v Speaker 9>He said, a thousand years from now, we can honor

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<v Speaker 9>them by having an Israel that carries on the traditions

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<v Speaker 9>that have been there a thousand years before. We just

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<v Speaker 9>passed the new year. It's five thousand, seven hundred and

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<v Speaker 9>eighty five. So together with the Rabbi ro little poem

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<v Speaker 9>about what Israel will look like in six thousand, seven

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<v Speaker 9>hundred and eighty five. Against all odds, Israel stands strong

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<v Speaker 9>friends by her side where they belong. In six 's

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<v Speaker 9>seven eighty five, we'll see her people firm, eternal, free

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<v Speaker 9>as Shabbat candles flick or bright mothers welcome Friday night

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<v Speaker 9>their flames A beacon ages old. One thousand more, This

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<v Speaker 9>story told the Chaufar's call at Rashashana echoes through time,

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<v Speaker 9>a sacred drama, awakening souls since times of yore one

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<v Speaker 9>thousand years and many more. On Young Kippor in solemn prayer,

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<v Speaker 9>they cleanse the slate with tender care, repairing bonds, with

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<v Speaker 9>the divine traditions lasting past our time. Messus's guard each

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<v Speaker 9>doorways frame, Yamaka's worn without shame.

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<v Speaker 10>Stars of David proud and bright, eternal symbols of their might.

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<v Speaker 9>The Jewish people tried and true on Simkhatora, spirits renewed,

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<v Speaker 9>dancing with scrolls, joy undenied schma Yzrael They've always cried.

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<v Speaker 9>All foes who sought to break their will now lie defeated,

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<v Speaker 9>cold and still condemned to histories trash. They fall forgotten,

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<v Speaker 9>They're disowned by all. Yet Israel's children stand, keeping alive

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<v Speaker 9>throughout the land the memory of those who fell in

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<v Speaker 9>Jewish hearts, their stories dwell, unbroken. They'll endure each test,

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<v Speaker 9>their timeless faith forever blessed. The culture and tradition never die,

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<v Speaker 9>and still they'll say yesegel hi, thank you, Okay.

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<v Speaker 8>Good to see you. I'll start in English and then

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<v Speaker 8>I'll go to French.

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<v Speaker 11>So first and foremost, of course, I would like to

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<v Speaker 11>reiterate how much I, personally and this government is again

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<v Speaker 11>any form of antisemitism. And we know that there's been

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<v Speaker 11>a rise of antisemitism across this country. It has worsened

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<v Speaker 11>since October seventh. We've heard from the Jewish community from

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<v Speaker 11>coast to coast to coast how much this was a problem,

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<v Speaker 11>and we need to continue to fight every day, working

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<v Speaker 11>with mayors across the country, working with premiers. And of

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<v Speaker 11>course we have as a government to do a better job,

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<v Speaker 11>and we all have to do a better job, everyone

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<v Speaker 11>in the House of Commons. And so we'll continue to

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<v Speaker 11>denounce any form of anti Semitism that is happening on

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<v Speaker 11>our streets, in our schools, against hospitals, sing the gods,

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<v Speaker 11>et cetera.

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<v Speaker 8>Why because we as a government.

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<v Speaker 11>Believe also in the Charter, in the fact that freedoms

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<v Speaker 11>need to be protected, not only freedom to speech, but

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<v Speaker 11>also freedom from intimidation, violence, discrimination. Now, when it comes

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<v Speaker 11>to the leader of the opposition, Capitalev himself, let me

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<v Speaker 11>be clear.

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<v Speaker 8>What we saw yesterday was the height of our hypocrisy.

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<v Speaker 8>Clearly Payev is doing one thing and saying one thing,

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<v Speaker 8>and he's doing another. I'll give you three examples.

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<v Speaker 11>First, well, he's saying that he's fighting anti Semitism. He

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<v Speaker 11>never condemned those who were waving a Nazi flag during

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<v Speaker 11>the Freedom convoy on this parliament. Hell, why didn't he. Second,

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<v Speaker 11>he cozies up to groups like Diaglonne who spread neo

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<v Speaker 11>fascist ideology across this country. Why does he denounce their

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<v Speaker 11>antisemitism as well. And also when his caucus met with

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<v Speaker 11>far right politicians from Germany that were downplaying Hitler's crimes,

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<v Speaker 11>he kept in kept them in his caucus.

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<v Speaker 8>And there's the sitting next to him in the House

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<v Speaker 8>of Commons. So clearly what.

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<v Speaker 11>We're seeing is that Piapo Lev is about double standards,

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<v Speaker 11>and he's about himself, his own political gain, and ultimately

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<v Speaker 11>he's unfit to govern this country. I'll say it in French,

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<v Speaker 11>may not tun do ibat gun on the count tout

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<v Speaker 11>fum dance smithsis to form dance smiths coo don Kiv's

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<v Speaker 11>lacomnotegel simitis as part past cerman de pui the setup

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<v Speaker 11>dub he s in acceptab in my Miami. He not

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<v Speaker 11>government then tjo and you don't not mortial pe avectly primunist.

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<v Speaker 8>Carry two.

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<v Speaker 11>So maya bulo pasois country is the flaw sipon quest politics,

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<v Speaker 11>sit in moral along the land content dager denunciman h

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<v Speaker 11>scorn of fire of a container. They found La chartro

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<v Speaker 11>liberti liberal or quaker lejondroy ab droi l liberty daj

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<v Speaker 11>the paralais may you see proteg the la liberte days

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<v Speaker 11>out certain nap the droid inc the viola, the discribiny.

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<v Speaker 8>There do the man.

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<v Speaker 12>I just want to reiterate a couple of things that

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<v Speaker 12>Minister Jolie said. It is unacceptable and it is wrong

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<v Speaker 12>to see anti Semitic protests in our streets, and it

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<v Speaker 12>is wrong to denounce Canada and to say the things

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<v Speaker 12>that we heard over the past twenty four hours in

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<v Speaker 12>our country. But when it comes to mister Poliev, he

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<v Speaker 12>is lying to Canadians. When he is talking about what

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<v Speaker 12>is happening in the chamber, he is pretending that what

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<v Speaker 12>is going on in there is something completely different than

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<v Speaker 12>what it is, which is a conservative filibuster of conservative obstruction.

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<v Speaker 8>The Speaker of the House.

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<v Speaker 12>Was extremely clear when he ruled on the Conservative question

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<v Speaker 12>of privilege. He said that because of the extraordinary circumstances,

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<v Speaker 12>this should go to committee for further study. There is

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<v Speaker 12>only one political party that is holding things up in

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<v Speaker 12>the House of Commons right now, and that is the

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<v Speaker 12>Conservative Party of Canada because they are afraid that if

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<v Speaker 12>this study goes to committee, what they will hear from

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<v Speaker 12>experts is that this is an egregious abuse of power.

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<v Speaker 12>But this is a consistent pattern with Pierre Paoliev and

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<v Speaker 12>his Conservative Party where they obstruct the truth. They try

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<v Speaker 12>to spin away from reality. But the facts don't lie.

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<v Speaker 12>The facts are and any one of you can go

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<v Speaker 12>and read this testimony, this ruling from the Speaker where

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<v Speaker 12>he clearly states that this matter should be referred to

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<v Speaker 12>the Procedure and House Affairs Committee for further study. And

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<v Speaker 12>mister Pouliev doesn't want that to happen because when that happens,

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<v Speaker 12>expert after expert will come out and say that this

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<v Speaker 12>is an egregious abuse of power by the Conservatives, And

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<v Speaker 12>just because the House has the right to do it

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<v Speaker 12>does not mean that it should.

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<v Speaker 13>Monsieur pollieve e entran de padil la veriti Canadian sat

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<v Speaker 2>Just proceed document to.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes much years you've known the excuse.

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<v Speaker 2>You up.

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<v Speaker 8>Set made into a terrorist organization.

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<v Speaker 14>Of course, I've been calling upon that for the last year,

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<v Speaker 14>and there's a national security review being done on Sama

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<v Speaker 14>Dune and it absolutely should be a terrorist organization. It

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<v Speaker 14>promotes hatred, it's a spokesperson for a listed terrorist organization,

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<v Speaker 14>and its activities over the last two days have only

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<v Speaker 14>made it very clear that it has.

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<v Speaker 2>To be done.

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<v Speaker 12>What do you think of the ongoing dispute between the

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<v Speaker 12>Foreign Afairs Minister and mister Paulia.

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<v Speaker 1>Is not unusual, League colandering.

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<v Speaker 14>I'm not going to comment about you. You can ask

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<v Speaker 14>me a talented question. I'm not going to talk about personalities.

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<v Speaker 14>Anti Semitism in this country is a serious issue. The

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<v Speaker 14>demonstrations have had anti Semitic rhetoric that has been floated

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<v Speaker 14>out and to use October the seventh, a day where

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<v Speaker 14>twelve hundred Israelis were murdered, the worst day for Jews

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<v Speaker 14>since the Holocaust, to do what was done in a

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<v Speaker 14>number of places yesterday, and to make anti Semitic and

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<v Speaker 14>statements and glorifying terrorism and glorifying what happened in October

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<v Speaker 14>seven is an absolutely horrendous thing that should not happen

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<v Speaker 14>in Canada. And anyone who was part of those demonstrations,

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<v Speaker 14>what happened at McGill where a building was vandalized, it's

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<v Speaker 14>it's it's absolutely disgraceful. So whatever differences there are between

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<v Speaker 14>the parties, I think and I hope we all agree

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<v Speaker 14>that October seventh is a day that has to be

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<v Speaker 14>remembered for what happened and not used by people don't

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<v Speaker 14>like Israel to uh to terrorize people in Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>Will be designated.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very optimistic.

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<v Speaker 14>I believe that what Sama Dune has done justifies it,

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<v Speaker 14>and I'm confident in our national security agencies and then

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<v Speaker 14>Cabinet will will take the right.

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<v Speaker 2>Steps if not satisfied with evidence to yeh, look, I

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<v Speaker 2>would have looked. I would have liked it to be

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<v Speaker 2>done a year ago, you know.

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<v Speaker 14>But but we I mean, I don't believe that politicians

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<v Speaker 14>can control and the national security agencies report back and

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<v Speaker 14>what they say.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, I think it needs to be expeditiously.

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<v Speaker 14>I know the minister, I've talked to him, if not

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<v Speaker 14>hundreds of times, you know, more than fifty times about

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<v Speaker 14>this issue, and I'm very confident he sees it the

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<v Speaker 14>way that I do.

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<v Speaker 12>Said yesterday about us of works writing to the nuclear

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<v Speaker 12>science in Iran, who's also wild back the facilities.

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<v Speaker 11>Is that something that really make your corps opposite?

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<v Speaker 14>Look, I've taken positions a number of times that are

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<v Speaker 14>different than my government on Israel. I think Israel has

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<v Speaker 14>an absolute right to defend itself against Iran and its

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<v Speaker 14>terrorist proxies. And I think Iran having nuclear weapons is

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<v Speaker 14>a great danger for the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a great day, thanks, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'd have to.

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<v Speaker 15>Read and better understand some of the things that they're doing,

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<v Speaker 15>but probably a strong case to be made.

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<v Speaker 8>And do you think or I should ask what do

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<v Speaker 8>you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Overall? Is back and forth?

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<v Speaker 15>That was the last couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 10>A love that and your board of your sinister.

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<v Speaker 15>I spoke to fifteen hundred people in Winnipeg yesterday from

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<v Speaker 15>the Jewish community. I sat in a memorial service with

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<v Speaker 15>six hundred people at an all Jewish school. With the

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<v Speaker 15>student population and the teachers in Winnipeg. Parents pulled up

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<v Speaker 15>to the school that moment that morning and dropped their

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<v Speaker 15>kids off in the backdrop of police cars and police officers.

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<v Speaker 15>Because of the rise of anti semitism. This place is

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<v Speaker 15>about politics, and I can appreciate that to an extent,

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<v Speaker 15>but I would prefer that we keep ourselves focused on

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<v Speaker 15>the people that are being impacted on the ground.

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<v Speaker 10>And I think that.

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<v Speaker 15>There's a lot in our political discourse these days, particularly

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<v Speaker 15>around the issue of the Middle East, that is not

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<v Speaker 15>only proving to be divisive, but also distracting from I

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<v Speaker 15>think the important conversations that we have to have and

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<v Speaker 15>the important reparation that needs to happen amongst community members

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<v Speaker 15>across the country. So I'm not going to provide any

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<v Speaker 15>further comment. I think you've seen how I engage on

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<v Speaker 15>this issue, and it's not the way I choose to engage.

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<v Speaker 15>And I hope that my colleagues, broadly speaking, will always

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<v Speaker 15>choose to depoliticize sensitive matters whenever the opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>Arises for them too.

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<v Speaker 2>Can make the impassive.

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<v Speaker 15>Well, that's a lot of politics too on this one.

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<v Speaker 15>You know, I'm not going to speak too much because

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<v Speaker 15>as chair of PROC you know there's a good chance

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<v Speaker 15>that this will come to us, and my job is

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<v Speaker 15>to be an objective observer and a decision maker on

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<v Speaker 15>that front. But it seems to me that the Speaker's

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<v Speaker 15>ruling is relatively clear, and now the use back and

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<v Speaker 15>forth of you know who the political hous rests on

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<v Speaker 15>will play out for a little bit. I think some

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<v Speaker 15>of my colleagues are certainly aware of how much time

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<v Speaker 15>can be eaten up and taken away from the legislative

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<v Speaker 15>agenda as this conversation ensues. But should it come to

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<v Speaker 15>proc if that's the prerogative of the Chamber as for

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<v Speaker 15>the Speaker's recommendation, then I'm certainly looking forward to having

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<v Speaker 15>that conversation. I'm sure it'll be an interesting one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thanks guys, Yeah, what did you want to add about?

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<v Speaker 15>Well, you know, you had asked me the question about

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<v Speaker 15>whether or not I thought they should be listed as

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<v Speaker 15>a terrorist organization, and that's not really a decision for

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<v Speaker 15>me as an individual member of Parliament to make their's

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<v Speaker 15>protocol in place in criteria that needs to be undertaken

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<v Speaker 15>in order to establish whether or not a group ought

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<v Speaker 15>to be listed a terrorist entity. But what I can

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<v Speaker 15>say with certainty is that what we have seen members

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<v Speaker 15>of this organization do and say is not only reprehensible

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<v Speaker 15>and has no place in Canada and needs to be

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<v Speaker 15>condemned in the strongest of terms, loudly by elected officials

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<v Speaker 15>and grassroots everyday Canadians from coast to coast to coast.

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<v Speaker 15>But it seems to me that there is likely a

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<v Speaker 15>very strong case to be made that there are hate

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<v Speaker 15>crimes that are being committed in the context of what

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<v Speaker 15>they are doing and saying, Like I said, about whether

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<v Speaker 15>or not they ought to be established as a terrorist entity.

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<v Speaker 15>That decision is not one for me to make. That's

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<v Speaker 15>obviously one for the police to determine if they believe

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<v Speaker 15>that a law is being broken, and for the courts

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<v Speaker 15>to encourse or sorry for the courts to rule on

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<v Speaker 15>following that enforcement. So even though it's not up to

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<v Speaker 15>me as an individual member of Parliament to decide, that

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<v Speaker 15>does not take away from very strong feeling that I

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<v Speaker 15>have towards what they are doing and saying, and my

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<v Speaker 15>belief that what they are doing and saying, sammy doing

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<v Speaker 15>that is does not belong in Canada, and that there

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<v Speaker 15>needs to be a much stronger vocalization of that from everybody,

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<v Speaker 15>inclusive of ordinary Canadians across the country, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess your government is undertaking a review.

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<v Speaker 15>It sounded like to day General.

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<v Speaker 11>Powel so that it was being passed along to the

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<v Speaker 11>atasiblity advice.

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<v Speaker 15>I can't speak to that. I'm not aware of exactly

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<v Speaker 15>where things are at in the process. So again, I

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<v Speaker 15>do think as individual members of Parliament, we have to

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<v Speaker 15>be very careful to say, yeah, I think just because

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<v Speaker 15>I despise this group and what they're doing, I think

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<v Speaker 15>they should be called terrorists. We can say that what

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<v Speaker 15>they are doing is terrorizing people, but to take the

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<v Speaker 15>step of actually categorizing them as a terrorist group within

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<v Speaker 15>Canada is obviously a substantial one, and we do have

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<v Speaker 15>to ensure that rules and procedure are followed. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 15>though short of making the determination that I think would

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<v Speaker 15>be inappropriate to make because of those processes, I still

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<v Speaker 15>think it's very much acceptable for somebody such as myself,

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<v Speaker 15>other elected officials, regardless of political party, and Canadians across

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<v Speaker 15>the country to strongly condemn what they're hearing and seeing.

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<v Speaker 15>And I don't think that it is crossing the line

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<v Speaker 15>for us to say that they are terrorizing people and

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<v Speaker 15>that the actions that they are undertaking are I would

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<v Speaker 15>hope in the minds of all Canadians contrary to the

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<v Speaker 15>values that are instilled in us here.

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<v Speaker 2>As a people.

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<v Speaker 15>I hope that adds some clarity.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thanks Christ.

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