Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Pictures Media Radio. Welcome to
Speaker 1: Policy and Rights, the show about Dolcorent Policy and Human Rights.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Policy and Right here Fictions Media Radio.
Speaker 1: I'm your host. Michael cloggs. Oh, yeah, as we know
Speaker 1: that that it's one of the one of the the
Speaker 1: problems that we're having right now is of course war
Speaker 1: and it's been a part of human life for well,
Speaker 1: it's been a part of human life for as long
Speaker 1: as there's actually been human beings in disagreement that rather
Speaker 1: than you using words and other ways of various communications,
Speaker 1: that we just try to kill each other. All right,
Speaker 1: that's out there and set Why is it that in
Speaker 1: our modern error of humanity that everything has to be
Speaker 1: either polarized or politicized and Palestine versus Israel, Israel versus Lebanon, Israel,
Speaker 1: versus versus Iran is isn't any different. It is becoming
Speaker 1: a a political campaign when we look at look at
Speaker 1: things that there there are innocent people dying. The media
Speaker 1: is trying to paint it as that the people have
Speaker 1: voted in terrorists because they want terrorists to run their country,
Speaker 1: when that's not true that in many cases that warlord
Speaker 1: factions who have taken over the territory and either you
Speaker 1: vote the way they want you to or they will
Speaker 1: flat out kill you, or that or that there's other
Speaker 1: economic reasons why your vote vote was was curbed. And
Speaker 1: you heard in a previous episode when I was speaking
Speaker 1: with another friend who is actually in Lebanon, who does
Speaker 1: does not stand with He doesn't stand for Israel, doesn't
Speaker 1: stand against Isel. He believes that Israel has to remain
Speaker 1: as a state. We shouldn't go backwards, he but he
Speaker 1: at the same time, he believes that Palestine should have
Speaker 1: a place itself and that the Hamas on October seventh,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, they did wrong and they should suffer
Speaker 1: a consequence for the wrongdoings that they did. But that
Speaker 1: shouldn't be polarized or politicized. That should just be a
Speaker 1: thing that we know that if you take hostages, you
Speaker 1: kill people, that there is a consequence. The same as
Speaker 1: if you fire rockets at another country, there is going
Speaker 1: to be a consequence. If you say that you want peace,
Speaker 1: but you keep buying weapons and you keep firing those
Speaker 1: weapons off, then there might be a problem with you
Speaker 1: saying that you want peace. Okay, so at the same time,
Speaker 1: when we look at other countries that are actually building
Speaker 1: and supplying those same weapons, you say you want peace,
Speaker 1: then you should be limiting the number of weapons that
Speaker 1: are built and sold. That it should be a industry
Speaker 1: that has a very limited a very limited profit margin,
Speaker 1: because there is a control on how many weapons are
Speaker 1: actually out there. But you say that you want peace,
Speaker 1: and you say that you don't want the wars to continue, Okay,
Speaker 1: then we're gonna add another layer to this. We're gonna
Speaker 1: add a layer because you're gonna hear in the in
Speaker 1: this episode, Pierre Pouvier and Justin Trudeau as they speak
Speaker 1: about the actions that happened in in in Palestine and
Speaker 1: Israel from last year and how the war is war
Speaker 1: there is now a year old, and how they're commemorating
Speaker 1: and memorializing the people who were killed a year ago
Speaker 1: in Palestine in Israel because the Hamas did something. They
Speaker 1: are also saying that asking for the mayors and the
Speaker 1: premiers across Canada to do something about the anti sematic protest.
Speaker 1: But it's how they're defining the anti sematic protests. If
Speaker 1: you are saying that another country besides Israel deserves equal rights,
Speaker 1: then you're being anti semitic. There is is along with us.
Speaker 1: I'm going to share a couple a couple of photographs
Speaker 1: that a friend of mine, Bob Homer, took at a
Speaker 1: rally in Vancouver, asking for the United Nations to come
Speaker 1: up with a solution so that Palestine has a free state,
Speaker 1: that Palestine will will also be recognized equally as a country.
Speaker 1: And those types of rallies are now to be deemed,
Speaker 1: according to Justin Trudeau and Pierre Pouvier, any somatic that
Speaker 1: it shouldn't happen, and Justin Trudeau, as the Prime Minister
Speaker 1: of Canada is asking premiers and mayors to limit those protests.
Speaker 1: That is one another another layer, another complete layer. We're
Speaker 1: also going to hear as Melody jo Lay speaks about
Speaker 1: some of the things that Pierre Pouvier said, and she
Speaker 1: is now campaigning for the Liberal government against the Conservative
Speaker 1: government because she starts speaking about white supremacy. See people,
Speaker 1: they could be sitting in Parliament on the Conservative side
Speaker 1: of the table. Okay, So she accuses mister Povier of
Speaker 1: speaking out of both sides, that he does not curb
Speaker 1: anti symiticism in his party. So How can he stand
Speaker 1: in front of a crowd of people and say that
Speaker 1: he is in support of the Jewish people when he
Speaker 1: won't curb the white supremacy people that are or get
Speaker 1: rid of the the white supremacy people that are in
Speaker 1: his party. Why does it have to turn into a
Speaker 1: political campaign? Okay, simply put, and this is my opinion,
Speaker 1: and take it. Take it for as my opinion and
Speaker 1: not necessarily as as fact. Even though there are some facts.
Speaker 2: Fact that.
Speaker 1: The the whole Zionist movement in the Middle East started
Speaker 1: well over one hundred years ago. Matter of fact, he
Speaker 1: can be it might be dated as far back as
Speaker 1: the eighteen nineties. And another fact that at the end
Speaker 1: of World War Two that the United Nations okay, at
Speaker 1: the time, the United Nations was mostly the United States
Speaker 1: and the United Kingdom coming together and deciding that there
Speaker 1: should be a Jewish state and placing that Jewish state
Speaker 1: rights back in the middle of the Middle East and
Speaker 1: landing it in what we now know as Palestine. They
Speaker 1: rounded people up into camps and they moved them from
Speaker 1: their homes to other places around the Middle East. Okay.
Speaker 1: And next next fact, okay, that there are probably in
Speaker 1: the Middle East, there are there are let's look at
Speaker 1: Let's look at Lebanon for an example. Okay, Lebanon is
Speaker 1: about sixty percent of the people there practice some form
Speaker 1: of Christianity. Well, let's that's set for a second, and
Speaker 1: let's think about what we here being reported to us
Speaker 1: by other media sources. They're saying that it is a
Speaker 1: completely Islamic state and that other religions such as Christianity
Speaker 1: and Judaism aren't allowed to be practiced. But yes, Christianity
Speaker 1: and Judaism are openly practiced in Lebanon. That before they
Speaker 1: created the state of Israel out of as part of
Speaker 1: what was Palestine, that there were already Jewish people living
Speaker 1: in that area before they created it, and they welcomed
Speaker 1: the Desionist movement to join in their community and live
Speaker 1: peacefully among everyone who is there. Well, what happened? Why
Speaker 1: is it that we see what we do today? If
Speaker 1: those were if if what I just said is even
Speaker 1: remotely true, So who is and I leave you with
Speaker 1: this question, who is really promoting a war and who
Speaker 1: and what owns most of the industry that creates the
Speaker 1: weapons of war today? Okay, so w we we are
Speaker 1: gonna hear some recordings today. Uh from like I said, Uh,
Speaker 1: we're going to hear from Justin Trudeau and Perre or
Speaker 1: Povier as they were added address a very needed address.
Speaker 1: Let me let me make sure that we got this straight,
Speaker 1: a very needed address on what is happening in the
Speaker 1: Middle East and that we do actually need to curb
Speaker 1: any bigotry towards the Jewish people in Canada, the United
Speaker 1: States or anywhere else in the world. That does need
Speaker 1: to actually happen. We don't need to see synagogues being
Speaker 1: blown up or or defamed in in any way, the
Speaker 1: same as we should not see any mosque or church
Speaker 1: have that happen, or any other religious center be destroyed
Speaker 1: or defamed. No, that is wrong. So this, this speech
Speaker 1: does need to happen because we do need to speak
Speaker 1: to people so they understand that bigotry is not going
Speaker 1: to be tolerated anywhere in the world. Okay, So we're
Speaker 1: gonna hear from Justin Trudeau and Pierre Povier as they
Speaker 1: do actually make some really important statements about bigotry. Were
Speaker 1: also are gonna hear from Antonio Guerrerez as he is
Speaker 1: going to make a statement about the happenings and what
Speaker 1: is ongoing in the Middle East. And we're also gonna
Speaker 1: hear from uh Melanie jolt As she is speaking about
Speaker 1: again what is happening in the Middle East and the
Speaker 1: and they all are gonna make important statements. Understand the
Speaker 1: importance of eliminating bigotry in the world and the the
Speaker 1: importance of eliminating war in our world. As you listen
Speaker 1: to what these global leaders have to say out what
Speaker 1: is happening in our world right now?
Speaker 3: Good afternoon.
Speaker 4: Second Chary John makes some remarks.
Speaker 3: Then we'll have time for one or two questions.
Speaker 5: The nightmare in Gaza is now entering an atrocious Abomino
Speaker 5: noble second year. This has been a year of crisis,
Speaker 5: humanitarian crisis, political crisis, diplomatic crisis, and the moral crisis
Speaker 5: over the last year. Following the horrific terror attacks perpetrated
Speaker 5: by Hamas on seven October, Gaza has become ground zero
Speaker 5: to a level of human suffering that is hard to fattom.
Speaker 5: More than forty one thousand peoples have been reportedly killed,
Speaker 5: mostly women and children. Thousands more are missing and believed
Speaker 5: to be tre apt under the rubble. Virtually the entire
Speaker 5: population has been displaced, and no part of Gaza has
Speaker 5: been spared. Generalists have been killed at a level unseen
Speaker 5: in any conflict in modern times, and humanitarians, those who
Speaker 5: have dedicated their lives to helping others, are facing unprecedented
Speaker 5: epic dangers. A record number, including so many members of
Speaker 5: our Yun family, have paid with their lives. The vast
Speaker 5: majority of those killed were part of the backbone of
Speaker 5: humanitary relief operations in Gaza Undhua in the midst of
Speaker 5: all the upheaval. Undua moderan ever, is indispensable. Undua moder
Speaker 5: than ever is irreplaceable. That is why I've written directly
Speaker 5: to Israeli Prime Minister Benjaminitaniau to express profound concern about
Speaker 5: draft legislation that could prevent UNRU from continuing its essential
Speaker 5: work in the occupied Palestinian territory. Such a measure would
Speaker 5: suffocate efforts to its human suffering intentions in Gaza and
Speaker 5: indeed the entire occupied Palestinian territory. It would be a
Speaker 5: catastrophe in what is already an an mitigated disaster. Let's
Speaker 5: be clear in practical terms what such a measure would
Speaker 5: mean operationally. The legislation would likely deal a terrible blow
Speaker 5: to the international humanitarian response in Gaza. Rous activities are
Speaker 5: integral to that response. It's not feasible to isolate to
Speaker 5: any an agency from the others. It would effectively end
Speaker 5: coordination to protective and convoys, offices and shelters serving hundreds
Speaker 5: of thousands of people. Without UGU, the delivery of food, shelter,
Speaker 5: and else care to most Gazes population would grind to
Speaker 5: a hole. Without UNDRU, Gazza's six hundred sixty thousand children
Speaker 5: would lose the only entity that is able to restart education,
Speaker 5: risking the faith of an entire generation. And without UNDRUA
Speaker 5: many health, education and social services would also end in
Speaker 5: the occupied West Bank, including is Jerusalem. If approved, such
Speaker 5: legislation would be diametrically opposed to the end Charter and
Speaker 5: in violation of Israel's obligations under international law. National legislation
Speaker 5: cannot alter those obligations, and politically, such legislation would be
Speaker 5: an enormous setback to sustainable peace efforts and to a
Speaker 5: Tuesday solution, fending even more instability and insecurity. This draft
Speaker 5: legislation comes at the situation in which Gazza is in
Speaker 5: a death spiral. The latest developments in the North are
Speaker 5: especially dire. We are witnessing a clear intensification of military
Speaker 5: operations by Israel. Residential areas have been attacked, hospitals ordered
Speaker 5: to evacuate, an electricity katoff with no fuel or commercial
Speaker 5: goods allowed in Around four hundred thousand people are being
Speaker 5: pressed yet again to move south to an area that
Speaker 5: is overcrowded, polluted, and lacking the basics for survival. Consider
Speaker 5: the situation for a family in the Jabali refugee camp
Speaker 5: in the North. They were ordered to leave their homes
Speaker 5: in October twenty twenty three active operations subsided and they returned.
Speaker 5: They were runs again ordered to evacuate. In December twenty
Speaker 5: twenty three, active operations subsided and they returned. They were
Speaker 5: ordered again to evacuate. In May twenty two twenty four,
Speaker 5: active operations subsided and they returned, and just these months
Speaker 5: they were once again ordered to evacuate. The conclusion is
Speaker 5: clear there is something fundamentally wrong in the way this
Speaker 5: war is being conducted. Ordering civilians to evacuate does not
Speaker 5: keep them safe. If they have no safe place to
Speaker 5: go and no shelter, food, medicine, or water, and no
Speaker 5: place is safe in Gaza, and no one is safe.
Speaker 5: International law is unambiguous. Civilians everywhere must be respected and protected,
Speaker 5: and that essential needs must be met, including true humanitarian assistance.
Speaker 5: All ostriches must be released, and I strongly condemn all
Speaker 5: violations of international humanitarian law in Gaza. Meanwhile, southern Gaza
Speaker 5: is overwhelmed, supplies are running law and Israeli authorities are
Speaker 5: only allowing a single and safe road for aid from
Speaker 5: the Keremshalom crossing, where humanitarians face active hostilities and violent
Speaker 5: armed looting fueled by desperation and the collapse of public
Speaker 5: order and safety. I've worked for months of the risks
Speaker 5: of the conflict spreading, and the Middle East is a
Speaker 5: powder keg with many parties holding the match. The situation
Speaker 5: in the occupied West Bank is boiling over, and now
Speaker 5: in Lebanon, attacks including on civilians, are threatening the entire region.
Speaker 5: Over the last few days, exchanges a fire between as
Speaker 5: Ball and others in Lebanon and the Israel Defense forces
Speaker 5: have intensified across the Blue line in total disregard of
Speaker 5: Security Council Resolution seventeen oh one and fifteen fifty nine.
Speaker 5: Large scale Israeli strikes deep into Lebanon, including Beirut, have
Speaker 5: killed more than two thousand people over the last year,
Speaker 5: and one thousand, five hundred in just the past two
Speaker 5: weeks alone. The tall has already surpassed the twenty two
Speaker 5: and zero twenty the two thousand and six war in Lebanon.
Speaker 5: Attacks by Esbula and the other souls of the Blue
Speaker 5: Line have killed at least forty nine people over the
Speaker 5: last year. Lebani's authorities report over one million people have
Speaker 5: been displaced in Lebanon and three hundred thousand people have
Speaker 5: fled into Syria. Over sixty thousand people remain displaced from
Speaker 5: northern Israel. Recently, the IVF started in cussions across the
Speaker 5: Blue Line. We are on the verge of an all
Speaker 5: out war in Lebanon, with already devastating consequences, but there
Speaker 5: is still time to stop. The sovereignty and territory integrity
Speaker 5: of all kinds must be respected, and members of our
Speaker 5: own peacekeeping force in Lebanon UNIFIL continue to carry out
Speaker 5: their mandates to the extent possible. The mission relies on
Speaker 5: full compliance by all parties, and I want again to
Speaker 5: express my gratitude and admiration to our peacekeepers and troop
Speaker 5: contributing countries. The men and women of Unifeel are serving
Speaker 5: in what is today the most challenging environment for peacekeepers anywhere.
Speaker 5: All actors must ensure their safety and security, and we
Speaker 5: must do far more. On the humanitarian front. The four
Speaker 5: hundred twenty six million US dollars in Meditanian ade appeal
Speaker 5: for Lebanon is only twelve percent funded. I urged donors
Speaker 5: to step up. The ladies and gentlemen of the media.
Speaker 5: The conflict in the Middle East is getting worse by
Speaker 5: the hour, and our warnings about the urific impact the
Speaker 5: escalation keep coming to pass. Every air strike, every missile launch,
Speaker 5: every rocket fired pushes peace further out of rich and
Speaker 5: makes the suffering even worse for the millions of civilians
Speaker 5: got in the middle. That is why we cannot and
Speaker 5: will not give up on our calls for an immediate
Speaker 5: ceas fire both in Gaza and Lebanon, the immediate and
Speaker 5: conditional release of hostages, and the immediate life saving gay
Speaker 5: to all those who desperately needed. And that is why
Speaker 5: we cannot and will not give up on our calls
Speaker 5: for irreversible action for a two stage solution between Israel
Speaker 5: and Palestine. All people in the region deserve to live
Speaker 5: in peace.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, mister Secretary General naviil abisab Alarabi
Speaker 3: TV station. Yesterday the Iranian Foreign Minister in Beirut said
Speaker 3: for the ceasefire to take place in Lebanon, it should
Speaker 3: first take place in Gaza. Do you think this is
Speaker 3: a constructive position and helps to reach a political solution?
Speaker 3: And what's the first step about seventeen oh one, the
Speaker 3: roadmap to implement seventeen o one, what should be the
Speaker 3: first step?
Speaker 5: We are asking for a ceasefire both in Gaza and
Speaker 5: in Lebanon.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Yvonne Marie Irish Television.
Speaker 6: Thank you very much. Sexually, General Levon Marie Arty News.
Speaker 6: My question is about you mentioned UNIFIL and the peacekeepers there,
Speaker 6: as you know the Israeli Army. The idea is set
Speaker 6: up a firing position right adjacent to out post six
Speaker 6: y five two, where Irish soldiers are currently stationed. What
Speaker 6: are your concerns now as the fighting move forwards, moves
Speaker 6: northwards towards larger UNIFIL camps.
Speaker 5: We are naturally very concerned. Yesterday I had a chance
Speaker 5: to speak with your Prime Minister. And after that I
Speaker 5: did a number of the march with different entities, and
Speaker 5: I can now tell you that those Israeli tanks and
Speaker 5: other armed elements that were around the six fifty two
Speaker 5: positions have left, and I strongly appeal, strongly appeal to
Speaker 5: both parties to fully respect the safety and security of UNIFILM.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, thank you, thank you very much.
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Speaker 7: Viksim Usurvivan, the Lata terrorist Gusett, doctor Perpetre Barramas, misur
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Speaker 7: to the parliamentarians from all parties who are putting partisanship
Speaker 7: aside to be here today, including members from my cabinet,
Speaker 7: Ministers Bill Blair, Meleni, Joli rif Errani, Mark Miller, Carriina Gould,
Speaker 7: Gena Suddz, Terry Beach, Camelca, Brandy Bossaneau, Marcy, Ian Ritchie Valdez,
Speaker 7: Ahmed Hussin and Stephen McKinnon, along with MPs Jasser Nacvi,
Speaker 7: Anita Vandenblt, Mari Franz Leland, Julie de Bruson, Valerie Bradford,
Speaker 7: Francesco Serbara, Judy Scrowe, Terry Dugod, Lisa Hepner, Ali Essassi,
Speaker 7: and Joyce Murray. Three hundred and sixty five days ago,
Speaker 7: we were all shaken to our very course. As we
Speaker 7: Canadians woke up on a peaceful autumn morning, Israelis and
Speaker 7: Jews across the globe were living a nightmare. Twelve hundred
Speaker 7: innocents murdered, young revelers with their whole lives, whole lies
Speaker 7: ahead of them, slaughtered, entire communities burnt to the ground,
Speaker 7: children traumatized and orphaned, women raped and mutilated, Families shattered
Speaker 7: and broken. Over two hundred and fifty people forced into
Speaker 7: captivity at the barrel of a gun.
Speaker 4: His single deadliest day for Jews since the Holocaust. I
Speaker 4: want to sit with them for a second. Almost eighty
Speaker 4: years since the end of the Holocaust, almost eighty years
Speaker 4: since we collectively said never again. Terrorist organizations like Hamas,
Speaker 4: like Hezbollah, like the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps still seek
Speaker 4: to harm Jews just because they are Jews. That's not
Speaker 4: being a freedom fighter. It's terrorism, vile, anti Semitic terrorism,
Speaker 4: and it makes me sick to my stomach. But the
Speaker 4: trauma of that day did not end on October eighth.
Speaker 4: What makes this barbaric attack that much more agonizing is
Speaker 4: the fact that you are reliving this nightmare every single day.
Speaker 4: You relive it when cowards shoot and smash the windows
Speaker 4: of your schools and synagogues in the middle of the night.
Speaker 4: You relive it when Antisemites wave the flags of Hamas
Speaker 4: and Hezbollah and the streets of our cities. You relive
Speaker 4: it when too many of our fellow Canadians downplay or
Speaker 4: dismiss your pain, telling you that the generational trauma you
Speaker 4: carry and the anti Semitism you experience somehow isn't real.
Speaker 4: You relive it when the term Zionist is tossed around
Speaker 4: as a profanity, a label for something other than what
Speaker 4: it truly means, believing in the right of Jewish people,
Speaker 4: like all people, to determine their own future, a right
Speaker 4: this government supports and always will. No one in Canada
Speaker 4: should ever be afraid to proudly call themselves a Zionist.
Speaker 4: And somewhat ironically, you relive it when you must conceal
Speaker 4: the location of this very event for fear of violence.
Speaker 4: Let me be frank. I believe it is unacceptable for
Speaker 4: any of this behavior to be normalized. It is incumbent
Speaker 4: on me and on every leader, from premiers to police chiefs,
Speaker 4: to give anti Semitism no quarter, to stop this rising
Speaker 4: hate and to reverse its spread. And yet, in spite
Speaker 4: of the pain that you live with every day, you've
Speaker 4: all shown your remarkable resilience. In the hours immediately after
Speaker 4: October seventh, you came together as a community to stand
Speaker 4: by each other, to help those displaced by the attacks
Speaker 4: and the hostage families going through untold suffering. You've shown
Speaker 4: that the depravity of these terrorists will not break your spirit,
Speaker 4: that they will not take away your joy.
Speaker 8: You continue to.
Speaker 4: Proudly embody the motto that defines what it means to
Speaker 4: be a Jew. I'm Israel Raim, the people of Israel Live.
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Speaker 4: Before I conclude, I want to take a step back,
Speaker 4: look beyond the horrifying numbers and statistics, and remember the people.
Speaker 4: Remember Vivian Silver, a Canadian Israeli women's rights and peace
Speaker 4: activist who devoted her life to building bridges between Israelis
Speaker 4: and Palestinians. Souvenivou Alexandre look game.
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Speaker 4: Remember Judith Weinstein, a compassionate mother of four whose family
Speaker 4: spoke and glowingly about what an incredible person she was
Speaker 4: when I had the honor of meeting them a few
Speaker 4: months ago. Let us remember twelve hundred innocent souls taken
Speaker 4: from us far too soon. May their memory be a blessing.
Speaker 4: But more than that, may their memory be a revolution,
Speaker 4: a revolution to bring about a world where violent jew hatred,
Speaker 4: like the attacks of October seventh, are unimaginable.
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Speaker 9: Ships shalong, Mercy, thank you. Today our ears are filled
Speaker 9: with the echo of horror. Our eyes are darkened with
Speaker 9: the shade of genocidal.
Speaker 10: Cruelty.
Speaker 9: Three hundred and sixty five days ago, today we saw
Speaker 9: exacted upon the Jewish people the worst and most deadly
Speaker 9: attack since the Holocaust, an attack carried out by a
Speaker 9: genocidal death called Hamas. They targeted, deliberately targeted civilians, children,
Speaker 9: They burned people alive, tortured children in front of their parents,
Speaker 9: They mutilated dead bodies, and then they displayed their cruel, sadistic,
Speaker 9: diabolical horrors in posts that they would put on the Internet,
Speaker 9: not even trying to conceal their evil. And why did
Speaker 9: they do it not because there was an occupying force
Speaker 9: they were trying to expel. Israel had voluntarily expelled itself
Speaker 9: from Gaza fifteen years ago, through the incredibly painful and
Speaker 9: even controversial decision to arrest its own citizens and drag
Speaker 9: them out of the Gaza Strip into Israel proper, leaving
Speaker 9: Hamas the ability to govern that land without any interference
Speaker 9: whatsoever from Israel, but with of course, total occupation by
Speaker 9: the terrorist regime in Tehran. And why now, why at
Speaker 9: this moment, suddenly after fifteen years was it because war
Speaker 9: was breaking out? Exactly the opposite. It was because peace
Speaker 9: was breaking out Israel. Israel had just successfully signed the
Speaker 9: Abraham Accords with multiple Muslim Arab states, with momentum towards
Speaker 9: a potential deal with Saudi Arabia. Imagine that the Jewish
Speaker 9: state signing a peace deal with the home of Mecca
Speaker 9: and Medina. What a bright new era that would be
Speaker 9: for everyone, everyone, except for the tyrants of Tehran, for
Speaker 9: which such peace would be their worst nightmare. And so
Speaker 9: to interrupt the potential of that harmony, the instigated, planned, financed,
Speaker 9: and coordinated this direct assault, and since that time have
Speaker 9: unleashed a seven front war on the Israeli people, a
Speaker 9: war that has been relentless and cruel. But before we've
Speaker 9: talked further about that, let us take a moment to
Speaker 9: honor the victims, Let their memory be a blessing, to
Speaker 9: think of the courageous hostages and their families in anguish.
Speaker 10: Bring them home.
Speaker 9: And yet Jews here at this home are revictimized again
Speaker 9: and again, after watching the Jewish homeland torn apart by
Speaker 9: this genocidal attack, now they see the same motives and
Speaker 9: vicious hatred carried out on our very streets, with a
Speaker 9: staggering increase in hate crimes, most of them directed at.
Speaker 10: The Jewish people. Why now, why now.
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 9: We might say, well, of course, because tensions are inflamed
Speaker 9: by the war between Hamas and Israel. But wait, this
Speaker 9: is not the first war that Israel has had to fight.
Speaker 9: There have been countless wars where Israel has had to
Speaker 9: defend its very existence, and those wars did not spill
Speaker 9: onto Canadian streets in two thousand. It's true, It's true
Speaker 9: in two thousand and eight, in two thousand and seven,
Speaker 9: two thousand and six, when Israel was forced to fight
Speaker 9: back against Hesbela in Lebanon, there was no violence on
Speaker 9: our streets. We did not have hate crimes overtaking Jewish communities.
Speaker 9: Protests at Jewish hospitals, Jewish homes, Jewish businesses. When there
Speaker 9: was conflict again in twenty fourteen, that did not spill
Speaker 9: into our streets. So why now, Why all of a
Speaker 9: sudden has this hatred found such a home here in Canada.
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 10: Some say it's because our people are flawed.
Speaker 9: The government needs to fix the people, censor the people,
Speaker 9: better control and corral the people.
Speaker 10: Well, is it really the people who are the problem.
Speaker 9: It wasn't the people who appointed Laith Maruth an anti
Speaker 9: racism expert after he had said, and.
Speaker 10: I quote, life is too short for shoes with laces.
Speaker 9: Or for entertaining Jewish white supremacists with anything but a
Speaker 9: bullet in the head. Given a government of Canada grant
Speaker 9: this individual supposedly to fight racism, or beard jud'tany appointed
Speaker 9: as the commissioner of the Canadian Human Rights Commission after
Speaker 9: he wrote terror is not an irrational strategy pursued solely
Speaker 9: by fundamentalists with politically and psychologically warped visions of a
Speaker 9: new political, religious, or ideological order. It is, in fact
Speaker 9: a rational and well calculated strategy that is pursued with
Speaker 9: surprisingly high success rates. The head of our human Rights Commission,
Speaker 9: or an Ontario school that forced children to attend an
Speaker 9: anti Israel protest, kids divided and told to wear different
Speaker 9: colors to identify their ethnicity in Canada, My friends, this
Speaker 9: ideology that seeks to divide our people based on raiths
Speaker 9: and ethnicity that has led to these horrifying outbursts of
Speaker 9: hatred are not from the bottom up. They are from
Speaker 9: the top down. And it has been further excentuated by
Speaker 9: a government that has led in someone who appears to
Speaker 9: have been led into Canada and given citizenship to someone
Speaker 9: who appeared to be in a video mutilating a citizen
Speaker 9: on a crucifix in the Middle East on behalf of
Speaker 9: is As, someone who then went on to try and
Speaker 9: stage another attack in Canada. Yet another terrorist came into
Speaker 9: Canada preparing to stage an attack from Canada to Jews
Speaker 9: in New York. All of this well, our tax dollars
Speaker 9: fund Unra, an organization that has helped carry out the
Speaker 9: attacks of nine to eleven October seventh. So when they
Speaker 9: say that the government needs to be the watchman of
Speaker 9: the people, I say, who watches the watchman?
Speaker 10: I say it is not for the government to change
Speaker 10: the people. It is time for the people to change
Speaker 10: the government.
Speaker 9: But I stand here today with you, with my brilliant
Speaker 9: and courageous heroin Deputy Leader, the Great Melissa Lanceman, and reiterate.
Speaker 10: The commitment that I've made to you and that I've
Speaker 10: made to.
Speaker 9: Our Muslim brothers and sisters, and that is that we
Speaker 9: will always take one stand no matter where we are.
Speaker 10: We as conservatives, we'll say the same thing.
Speaker 9: I love the Muslim people, and when I go into
Speaker 9: their mosques, and I do proudly visit their mosque, I
Speaker 9: tell them I am a friend of Israel.
Speaker 10: I say the same things there that I do here.
Speaker 9: We can no longer accept political parties sending one mp
Speaker 9: be into one place to say one thing and another
Speaker 9: MP into a different place to say exactly the opposite.
Speaker 9: We will put behind us this ugly ideology that has
Speaker 9: divided our people, and we will acclaim the country that
Speaker 9: we knew and love, and we will do it based
Speaker 9: on the teachings of the Great Wilfrid Laurie. If you'll mind,
Speaker 9: if you don't mind me praising a liberal. He was
Speaker 9: asked what is Canada's nationality, and he could not list
Speaker 9: an ethnicity or a religion. We were already mixed up
Speaker 9: way back then. We had people from all over the world.
Speaker 9: So we said, Canada is free and freedom is its nationality.
Speaker 9: We united around the idea that didn't matter where you
Speaker 9: came from, it mattered where you were going. We united
Speaker 9: around the idea that you could worship God in any
Speaker 9: way you chose. That you had the freedom to think
Speaker 9: what you wanted, say what you wanted, to be who
Speaker 9: you wanted, and to be left in peace with your family.
Speaker 9: And that is the principle that will unite us again.
Speaker 9: You have my word that I will stand up for
Speaker 9: freedom here at home and around the world. We will
Speaker 9: secure our borders to keep terrorists out.
Speaker 10: We will defe.
Speaker 9: I will make clear to universities that if they spread
Speaker 9: anti Semitism or make Jews feel unsafe and uncomfortable on
Speaker 9: their campuses, they will not be eligible for federal funding.
Speaker 9: We will defund anti Semitic organizations and activists. We will
Speaker 9: defund Unrah and give the money to the Palestinian people
Speaker 9: who are suffering. I will vote against anti Israel resolutions
Speaker 9: at the United Nations. I will back Israel's right to
Speaker 9: defend itself, which includes retaliating against those that attack Israel.
Speaker 9: Israel must be able to prevent Iran from using nuclear weapons.
Speaker 9: If necessary, that means proactively striking Iranian nuclear sites and
Speaker 9: oil installations to defund the terrorist regime. We will keep
Speaker 9: our fists closed to terrorism, but our hands open to peace.
Speaker 9: We must work with the Saudis, the Emiradis, the Qataris,
Speaker 9: and anyone who's willing to talk and work and build
Speaker 9: towards a greater piece, including the permanent recognition of Jewish
Speaker 9: the Jewish State's right to exist as a Jewish state
Speaker 9: now and forever. This is the bright thing future we
Speaker 9: have in store, in a land where all the Abrahamic
Speaker 9: people can enjoy their religious places of worship in peace.
Speaker 10: And in harmony, the way Canada once was.
Speaker 9: That is the way that we can rekindle the memories
Speaker 9: of those brilliant souls that we lost a year ago.
Speaker 9: Today I was speaking with Rabbi Mendel Kaplan, and I asked,
Speaker 9: how do I address the loss and find some glimmer
Speaker 9: of hope in it? And he said that those we
Speaker 9: lost can live on on this world, in this world,
Speaker 9: even as they've passed the next. And I said how
Speaker 9: He said, by carrying on the Jewish traditions that animated them.
Speaker 9: He said, a thousand years from now, we can honor
Speaker 9: them by having an Israel that carries on the traditions
Speaker 9: that have been there a thousand years before. We just
Speaker 9: passed the new year. It's five thousand, seven hundred and
Speaker 9: eighty five. So together with the Rabbi ro little poem
Speaker 9: about what Israel will look like in six thousand, seven
Speaker 9: hundred and eighty five. Against all odds, Israel stands strong
Speaker 9: friends by her side where they belong. In six 's
Speaker 9: seven eighty five, we'll see her people firm, eternal, free
Speaker 9: as Shabbat candles flick or bright mothers welcome Friday night
Speaker 9: their flames A beacon ages old. One thousand more, This
Speaker 9: story told the Chaufar's call at Rashashana echoes through time,
Speaker 9: a sacred drama, awakening souls since times of yore one
Speaker 9: thousand years and many more. On Young Kippor in solemn prayer,
Speaker 9: they cleanse the slate with tender care, repairing bonds, with
Speaker 9: the divine traditions lasting past our time. Messus's guard each
Speaker 9: doorways frame, Yamaka's worn without shame.
Speaker 10: Stars of David proud and bright, eternal symbols of their might.
Speaker 9: The Jewish people tried and true on Simkhatora, spirits renewed,
Speaker 9: dancing with scrolls, joy undenied schma Yzrael They've always cried.
Speaker 9: All foes who sought to break their will now lie defeated,
Speaker 9: cold and still condemned to histories trash. They fall forgotten,
Speaker 9: They're disowned by all. Yet Israel's children stand, keeping alive
Speaker 9: throughout the land the memory of those who fell in
Speaker 9: Jewish hearts, their stories dwell, unbroken. They'll endure each test,
Speaker 9: their timeless faith forever blessed. The culture and tradition never die,
Speaker 9: and still they'll say yesegel hi, thank you, Okay.
Speaker 8: Good to see you. I'll start in English and then
Speaker 8: I'll go to French.
Speaker 11: So first and foremost, of course, I would like to
Speaker 11: reiterate how much I, personally and this government is again
Speaker 11: any form of antisemitism. And we know that there's been
Speaker 11: a rise of antisemitism across this country. It has worsened
Speaker 11: since October seventh. We've heard from the Jewish community from
Speaker 11: coast to coast to coast how much this was a problem,
Speaker 11: and we need to continue to fight every day, working
Speaker 11: with mayors across the country, working with premiers. And of
Speaker 11: course we have as a government to do a better job,
Speaker 11: and we all have to do a better job, everyone
Speaker 11: in the House of Commons. And so we'll continue to
Speaker 11: denounce any form of anti Semitism that is happening on
Speaker 11: our streets, in our schools, against hospitals, sing the gods,
Speaker 11: et cetera.
Speaker 8: Why because we as a government.
Speaker 11: Believe also in the Charter, in the fact that freedoms
Speaker 11: need to be protected, not only freedom to speech, but
Speaker 11: also freedom from intimidation, violence, discrimination. Now, when it comes
Speaker 11: to the leader of the opposition, Capitalev himself, let me
Speaker 11: be clear.
Speaker 8: What we saw yesterday was the height of our hypocrisy.
Speaker 8: Clearly Payev is doing one thing and saying one thing,
Speaker 8: and he's doing another. I'll give you three examples.
Speaker 11: First, well, he's saying that he's fighting anti Semitism. He
Speaker 11: never condemned those who were waving a Nazi flag during
Speaker 11: the Freedom convoy on this parliament. Hell, why didn't he. Second,
Speaker 11: he cozies up to groups like Diaglonne who spread neo
Speaker 11: fascist ideology across this country. Why does he denounce their
Speaker 11: antisemitism as well. And also when his caucus met with
Speaker 11: far right politicians from Germany that were downplaying Hitler's crimes,
Speaker 11: he kept in kept them in his caucus.
Speaker 8: And there's the sitting next to him in the House
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Speaker 12: I just want to reiterate a couple of things that
Speaker 12: Minister Jolie said. It is unacceptable and it is wrong
Speaker 12: to see anti Semitic protests in our streets, and it
Speaker 12: is wrong to denounce Canada and to say the things
Speaker 12: that we heard over the past twenty four hours in
Speaker 12: our country. But when it comes to mister Poliev, he
Speaker 12: is lying to Canadians. When he is talking about what
Speaker 12: is happening in the chamber, he is pretending that what
Speaker 12: is going on in there is something completely different than
Speaker 12: what it is, which is a conservative filibuster of conservative obstruction.
Speaker 8: The Speaker of the House.
Speaker 12: Was extremely clear when he ruled on the Conservative question
Speaker 12: of privilege. He said that because of the extraordinary circumstances,
Speaker 12: this should go to committee for further study. There is
Speaker 12: only one political party that is holding things up in
Speaker 12: the House of Commons right now, and that is the
Speaker 12: Conservative Party of Canada because they are afraid that if
Speaker 12: this study goes to committee, what they will hear from
Speaker 12: experts is that this is an egregious abuse of power.
Speaker 12: But this is a consistent pattern with Pierre Paoliev and
Speaker 12: his Conservative Party where they obstruct the truth. They try
Speaker 12: to spin away from reality. But the facts don't lie.
Speaker 12: The facts are and any one of you can go
Speaker 12: and read this testimony, this ruling from the Speaker where
Speaker 12: he clearly states that this matter should be referred to
Speaker 12: the Procedure and House Affairs Committee for further study. And
Speaker 12: mister Pouliev doesn't want that to happen because when that happens,
Speaker 12: expert after expert will come out and say that this
Speaker 12: is an egregious abuse of power by the Conservatives, And
Speaker 12: just because the House has the right to do it
Speaker 12: does not mean that it should.
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Speaker 14: Of course, I've been calling upon that for the last year,
Speaker 14: and there's a national security review being done on Sama
Speaker 14: Dune and it absolutely should be a terrorist organization. It
Speaker 14: promotes hatred, it's a spokesperson for a listed terrorist organization,
Speaker 14: and its activities over the last two days have only
Speaker 14: made it very clear that it has.
Speaker 2: To be done.
Speaker 12: What do you think of the ongoing dispute between the
Speaker 12: Foreign Afairs Minister and mister Paulia.
Speaker 1: Is not unusual, League colandering.
Speaker 14: I'm not going to comment about you. You can ask
Speaker 14: me a talented question. I'm not going to talk about personalities.
Speaker 14: Anti Semitism in this country is a serious issue. The
Speaker 14: demonstrations have had anti Semitic rhetoric that has been floated
Speaker 14: out and to use October the seventh, a day where
Speaker 14: twelve hundred Israelis were murdered, the worst day for Jews
Speaker 14: since the Holocaust, to do what was done in a
Speaker 14: number of places yesterday, and to make anti Semitic and
Speaker 14: statements and glorifying terrorism and glorifying what happened in October
Speaker 14: seven is an absolutely horrendous thing that should not happen
Speaker 14: in Canada. And anyone who was part of those demonstrations,
Speaker 14: what happened at McGill where a building was vandalized, it's
Speaker 14: it's it's absolutely disgraceful. So whatever differences there are between
Speaker 14: the parties, I think and I hope we all agree
Speaker 14: that October seventh is a day that has to be
Speaker 14: remembered for what happened and not used by people don't
Speaker 14: like Israel to uh to terrorize people in Canada.
Speaker 1: Will be designated.
Speaker 2: I'm very optimistic.
Speaker 14: I believe that what Sama Dune has done justifies it,
Speaker 14: and I'm confident in our national security agencies and then
Speaker 14: Cabinet will will take the right.
Speaker 2: Steps if not satisfied with evidence to yeh, look, I
Speaker 2: would have looked. I would have liked it to be
Speaker 2: done a year ago, you know.
Speaker 14: But but we I mean, I don't believe that politicians
Speaker 14: can control and the national security agencies report back and
Speaker 14: what they say.
Speaker 2: But again, I think it needs to be expeditiously.
Speaker 14: I know the minister, I've talked to him, if not
Speaker 14: hundreds of times, you know, more than fifty times about
Speaker 14: this issue, and I'm very confident he sees it the
Speaker 14: way that I do.
Speaker 12: Said yesterday about us of works writing to the nuclear
Speaker 12: science in Iran, who's also wild back the facilities.
Speaker 11: Is that something that really make your corps opposite?
Speaker 14: Look, I've taken positions a number of times that are
Speaker 14: different than my government on Israel. I think Israel has
Speaker 14: an absolute right to defend itself against Iran and its
Speaker 14: terrorist proxies. And I think Iran having nuclear weapons is
Speaker 14: a great danger for the world.
Speaker 2: Have a great day, thanks, guys.
Speaker 1: I think I'd have to.
Speaker 15: Read and better understand some of the things that they're doing,
Speaker 15: but probably a strong case to be made.
Speaker 8: And do you think or I should ask what do
Speaker 8: you think?
Speaker 2: Overall? Is back and forth?
Speaker 15: That was the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 10: A love that and your board of your sinister.
Speaker 15: I spoke to fifteen hundred people in Winnipeg yesterday from
Speaker 15: the Jewish community. I sat in a memorial service with
Speaker 15: six hundred people at an all Jewish school. With the
Speaker 15: student population and the teachers in Winnipeg. Parents pulled up
Speaker 15: to the school that moment that morning and dropped their
Speaker 15: kids off in the backdrop of police cars and police officers.
Speaker 15: Because of the rise of anti semitism. This place is
Speaker 15: about politics, and I can appreciate that to an extent,
Speaker 15: but I would prefer that we keep ourselves focused on
Speaker 15: the people that are being impacted on the ground.
Speaker 10: And I think that.
Speaker 15: There's a lot in our political discourse these days, particularly
Speaker 15: around the issue of the Middle East, that is not
Speaker 15: only proving to be divisive, but also distracting from I
Speaker 15: think the important conversations that we have to have and
Speaker 15: the important reparation that needs to happen amongst community members
Speaker 15: across the country. So I'm not going to provide any
Speaker 15: further comment. I think you've seen how I engage on
Speaker 15: this issue, and it's not the way I choose to engage.
Speaker 15: And I hope that my colleagues, broadly speaking, will always
Speaker 15: choose to depoliticize sensitive matters whenever the opportunity.
Speaker 1: Arises for them too.
Speaker 2: Can make the impassive.
Speaker 15: Well, that's a lot of politics too on this one.
Speaker 15: You know, I'm not going to speak too much because
Speaker 15: as chair of PROC you know there's a good chance
Speaker 15: that this will come to us, and my job is
Speaker 15: to be an objective observer and a decision maker on
Speaker 15: that front. But it seems to me that the Speaker's
Speaker 15: ruling is relatively clear, and now the use back and
Speaker 15: forth of you know who the political hous rests on
Speaker 15: will play out for a little bit. I think some
Speaker 15: of my colleagues are certainly aware of how much time
Speaker 15: can be eaten up and taken away from the legislative
Speaker 15: agenda as this conversation ensues. But should it come to
Speaker 15: proc if that's the prerogative of the Chamber as for
Speaker 15: the Speaker's recommendation, then I'm certainly looking forward to having
Speaker 15: that conversation. I'm sure it'll be an interesting one.
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks guys, Yeah, what did you want to add about?
Speaker 15: Well, you know, you had asked me the question about
Speaker 15: whether or not I thought they should be listed as
Speaker 15: a terrorist organization, and that's not really a decision for
Speaker 15: me as an individual member of Parliament to make their's
Speaker 15: protocol in place in criteria that needs to be undertaken
Speaker 15: in order to establish whether or not a group ought
Speaker 15: to be listed a terrorist entity. But what I can
Speaker 15: say with certainty is that what we have seen members
Speaker 15: of this organization do and say is not only reprehensible
Speaker 15: and has no place in Canada and needs to be
Speaker 15: condemned in the strongest of terms, loudly by elected officials
Speaker 15: and grassroots everyday Canadians from coast to coast to coast.
Speaker 15: But it seems to me that there is likely a
Speaker 15: very strong case to be made that there are hate
Speaker 15: crimes that are being committed in the context of what
Speaker 15: they are doing and saying, Like I said, about whether
Speaker 15: or not they ought to be established as a terrorist entity.
Speaker 15: That decision is not one for me to make. That's
Speaker 15: obviously one for the police to determine if they believe
Speaker 15: that a law is being broken, and for the courts
Speaker 15: to encourse or sorry for the courts to rule on
Speaker 15: following that enforcement. So even though it's not up to
Speaker 15: me as an individual member of Parliament to decide, that
Speaker 15: does not take away from very strong feeling that I
Speaker 15: have towards what they are doing and saying, and my
Speaker 15: belief that what they are doing and saying, sammy doing
Speaker 15: that is does not belong in Canada, and that there
Speaker 15: needs to be a much stronger vocalization of that from everybody,
Speaker 15: inclusive of ordinary Canadians across the country, and.
Speaker 2: I guess your government is undertaking a review.
Speaker 15: It sounded like to day General.
Speaker 11: Powel so that it was being passed along to the
Speaker 11: atasiblity advice.
Speaker 15: I can't speak to that. I'm not aware of exactly
Speaker 15: where things are at in the process. So again, I
Speaker 15: do think as individual members of Parliament, we have to
Speaker 15: be very careful to say, yeah, I think just because
Speaker 15: I despise this group and what they're doing, I think
Speaker 15: they should be called terrorists. We can say that what
Speaker 15: they are doing is terrorizing people, but to take the
Speaker 15: step of actually categorizing them as a terrorist group within
Speaker 15: Canada is obviously a substantial one, and we do have
Speaker 15: to ensure that rules and procedure are followed. Like I said,
Speaker 15: though short of making the determination that I think would
Speaker 15: be inappropriate to make because of those processes, I still
Speaker 15: think it's very much acceptable for somebody such as myself,
Speaker 15: other elected officials, regardless of political party, and Canadians across
Speaker 15: the country to strongly condemn what they're hearing and seeing.
Speaker 15: And I don't think that it is crossing the line
Speaker 15: for us to say that they are terrorizing people and
Speaker 15: that the actions that they are undertaking are I would
Speaker 15: hope in the minds of all Canadians contrary to the
Speaker 15: values that are instilled in us here.
Speaker 2: As a people.
Speaker 15: I hope that adds some clarity.
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Christ.
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