Speaker 1: What Up, goat and welcome to Whatevoids Live or sports
Speaker 1: dot Com. Rex Young Chris Skywalker. Oh got our boy
Speaker 1: dom coming up today to giving us.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, this guy's.
Speaker 3: I get fired.
Speaker 4: This guy did his hair and everything.
Speaker 2: He asked if you get on I said, yeah, we
Speaker 2: gotta get him on for the summers up. You gotta share.
Speaker 2: You gotta be nice. Sorry, you gotta be nice.
Speaker 1: Your only child, weren't you?
Speaker 3: I felt like it sometimes. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh you have a sibling older, younger.
Speaker 2: So what's the story here.
Speaker 3: She's older.
Speaker 2: Oh she sounds me.
Speaker 3: No, she's awesome. She's awesome. I just had lunch with today.
Speaker 2: Shout up, shut, shout out. Come on.
Speaker 5: His dad's a fucking My dad's terrified.
Speaker 2: His dad is your dad?
Speaker 1: Read like you two like the you know, the blondest
Speaker 1: reddish hair.
Speaker 3: Nah, he's bald now, but like when he was younger,
Speaker 3: he had like the like he had a motorcycle and
Speaker 3: long curly hair.
Speaker 2: Like he's a beast. At his beast, I can confirm. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And his hand his hands are huge holds.
Speaker 3: He's six four six five, So like, if I'm ever
Speaker 3: getting into some trouble, bro, I'm just calling him to
Speaker 3: like come clean up there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still lifted this day.
Speaker 3: He's getting back in the gym. He's trying to lose
Speaker 3: a little bit like a weight. Now he's doing like fasting.
Speaker 3: He's actually lost a bunch of weight.
Speaker 1: So hell yeah, yeah he's looking like good for him.
Speaker 2: Let's stop me from getting into a couple of fights
Speaker 2: in high school, just like putting the hand on the shoulder.
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, I gotta get this. Listen. I try not
Speaker 2: to do this.
Speaker 1: I don't really do that often, but this I feel
Speaker 1: likes Would you be interested in this?
Speaker 2: Too?
Speaker 1: Anthropic which was supposed to be the good AI company
Speaker 1: they put like they didn't want to do war stuff
Speaker 1: with the government, stuff like that. Well, they're still doing
Speaker 1: bad things. They're they're buying up all the rare books,
Speaker 1: the last copies of rare books. They're ripping the spines
Speaker 1: out and scanning it into AI, deleting the book forever
Speaker 1: only have it mashed up in the fucking ay. You
Speaker 1: know you guys have used AI at this point in
Speaker 1: your life. No, I mean, if you have, it could
Speaker 1: be unreliable. It takes like everything for the Internet and
Speaker 1: compile is gonna answer. So sometimes you get bullshit in
Speaker 1: there too. It's taking the last of these books, rare
Speaker 1: books and just fucking shredding them after they're skinning into
Speaker 1: the system.
Speaker 2: That's insane. Yeah, not great. I'm listening. I was called
Speaker 2: an idiot for being scared of AI and saying that's
Speaker 2: how you get sky Neet. No, it's fine. It's not fine.
Speaker 2: You should be much more scared of AI than anything
Speaker 2: else in the world.
Speaker 1: It's here, man, this shit is I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I don't fuck with it anymore.
Speaker 3: It's literally like Fahrenheit four fifty one, bro, Like you're
Speaker 3: just gonna get rid of all the books, keep people dumb.
Speaker 3: Like what happens when when you can't have AI and
Speaker 3: all this information is just.
Speaker 2: Gone, then the AI will tell you what to do. Yes,
Speaker 2: that's what It's going to delete, the ability to find
Speaker 2: information without using AI, so the AI will be able
Speaker 2: to tell you what Google is already doing. Google is
Speaker 2: already they don't even understand why, because they're the worst
Speaker 2: AI there is. Bring ask Jeeves.
Speaker 5: Back, Well, we've been uh, we've been already heading down
Speaker 5: this slope before. The first thing that ever got me
Speaker 5: like even close to politically active was the whole net
Speaker 5: neutrality in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: Yeah that shit.
Speaker 5: So, like we've already been going down this rabbit hole,
Speaker 5: but AI is going to take it to a whole
Speaker 5: new level. They're going to be the only source of
Speaker 5: information and you know, probably a generation from now, they're
Speaker 5: gonna be the only source of information for people.
Speaker 6: For sure.
Speaker 1: It's making people dumb. I asked AI one time, like,
Speaker 1: how would you take over the world, But how would
Speaker 1: you do?
Speaker 4: Histories?
Speaker 1: And she said, I would do what we're already doing.
Speaker 1: They're already helping people with everything. There's a Congress guy.
Speaker 1: I'll find this video if you want. A guy in
Speaker 1: Congress reading out his speech. Is like, now here's a
Speaker 1: more easy, flowing legislative version rather than focus points.
Speaker 2: He was waiting fucking chat chat GBT prompt.
Speaker 1: A guy in government Congress making decisions about your fuck life.
Speaker 2: This ship it's getting scary, man, it's getting scary as ship.
Speaker 2: We got all the turntables. Well, you don't have to
Speaker 2: save us, captain himself.
Speaker 1: Sex robots, that's your that's your native You're you're fucking
Speaker 1: passing on, Captaine.
Speaker 2: I ain't true.
Speaker 1: If they make sex robots, then We're fucked. I'm serious,
Speaker 1: literally and figuratively.
Speaker 2: We are.
Speaker 7: We are.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know about sex robots Man Slippery Slope too.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Do your brother buy sex chair? What
Speaker 2: if they learn I'm not buying the chair? You got that, dude,
Speaker 2: you gotta buy that Pretty funny, it's pretty cool, chick.
Speaker 2: It's a fucking awesome ship. It's great. And imagine scenarios
Speaker 2: explaining too shy to Chris Burn with super chass Ai
Speaker 2: is the end of our age of Bronze, our Bronze age,
Speaker 2: if you will, it's definitely next. I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I don't like it, not one damn bit. You know what,
Speaker 1: lebron James doesn't like that rat infested.
Speaker 2: Piece of ship city Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: You may think he likes him because he joined their team.
Speaker 1: I was trying to get another ring. He's not gonna
Speaker 1: stay in the city in Philadelphia. He's gonna be living
Speaker 1: in New York the entirety of his time with the team,
Speaker 1: flying over like Kobe's doing with the with the air helicopter.
Speaker 4: Hate that, hate hate that. I don't like that.
Speaker 2: I saw I shared the meme yesterday and it was
Speaker 2: when Captain America is trying to pull the helicopter back
Speaker 2: to the landing pan. It's like me when Lebron gets
Speaker 2: in the helicopter for the first time, for real, I
Speaker 2: don't like it.
Speaker 5: I not gonna lie. That's why I didn't say it
Speaker 5: like a single thing. I didn't share those tweets. I
Speaker 5: seen those tweets instantly, and I was just like ptsd
Speaker 5: fen like I genuinely froze.
Speaker 2: You were doing stand up right after he died.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't about the helicopter.
Speaker 2: It was you said it was.
Speaker 5: No, it wasn't about the crash at all. It was
Speaker 5: about it was making fun of the broadcaster. It was
Speaker 5: making fun of the broadcaster that fucked up and said
Speaker 5: the Edward m That's what it was.
Speaker 2: How'd you know you weren't there? You were my friend?
Speaker 2: Then women shooting in the gym. Fact, when I first.
Speaker 1: Reached out to Chris that joined Woodward, he like he
Speaker 1: left me on red I think on Facebook message. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was like he thought he was fucking.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to speak on you, but I was disappointed.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 4: No, man, it's all good. It's all good.
Speaker 5: With enough coaxting with enough with enough persistence.
Speaker 2: Here I am you see so thank you you were
Speaker 2: meant to be here.
Speaker 3: Chris, he was banking on rap tip.
Speaker 1: He was making a rap cap big. It was disrespectful, like,
Speaker 1: there's no way this kid thinks.
Speaker 4: He's like, why would I go on a on a
Speaker 4: show rap Cave didn't even it was.
Speaker 2: It was called the Rapop was called strictly hip hop.
Speaker 1: Strictly I see some photos and slack please grab please,
Speaker 1: We'll see please, We'll see chat. You gotta do your part, though,
Speaker 1: we need at least fifty likes.
Speaker 2: Fifty likes to see.
Speaker 1: Spencer's new furniture.
Speaker 2: I'm not getting you. Gotta do it, dude.
Speaker 1: Lukey's gonna be covering NFL games from Netflix.
Speaker 2: I think that's.
Speaker 1: The student of the game Superman, and that guy is
Speaker 1: fucking awesome when he played that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one of my favorite players ever, sneaky athletic.
Speaker 2: Lunch pill guy. Uh Freddy fell at the super Cha.
Speaker 2: He says, Lebron get to the chop up. Kobe greater
Speaker 2: than Lebron. That's not true, Listen, I don't want to
Speaker 2: get into it.
Speaker 1: Kobe is great, but Chack was the man in those teams.
Speaker 1: He averaged thirty points, like nineteen rebounds.
Speaker 2: I wrote series.
Speaker 5: I wrote a whole paper one of my first years
Speaker 5: of college of why like Michael Jordan is just clearly
Speaker 5: better than Kobe, like stopped.
Speaker 4: Like Kobe was not the Finals.
Speaker 5: MVP on three of his five rate yeah, like he
Speaker 5: was not the best player on three of his five championship.
Speaker 1: Were they making the playoffs when he wanted out? Or
Speaker 1: were they not even in the playoffs?
Speaker 5: They made it one year, They made it one year,
Speaker 5: and I think that following year he requested a trade
Speaker 5: and then they got POGERSO. Yeah, because he it was
Speaker 5: a terrible team.
Speaker 3: If I need someone to take a shot for me,
Speaker 3: I guess outside of stuff like if someone's got to
Speaker 3: make a three point or a half court shot to
Speaker 3: like save my life, outside of Steph Curry, I'm probably
Speaker 3: taking Kobe. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just based out of all but if I need
Speaker 2: to win a seven gear, I'm serious.
Speaker 3: YEA.
Speaker 2: Jalen Carter is getting paid. Oh yeah, Raven dark Flame.
Speaker 1: I thought he was bad. You guys told me he
Speaker 1: was not a good player. He's the highest paid defensive
Speaker 1: tackle in the league. I just super Bowl champion.
Speaker 2: He's shit guy McNeil. No longer in the top five.
Speaker 1: No longer in the top five. Shot Jaysen Carter for
Speaker 1: saving us from the booner rants.
Speaker 2: Yeah, four years, one hundred and fifty two million dollars
Speaker 2: worth up to one sixty including one hundred and six
Speaker 2: million guaranteed. That makes him now the highest paid defensive
Speaker 2: tackle in the NFL a thirty eight million dollars a year.
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Simmons at thirty five, Chris Jones at thirty two,
Speaker 2: basically Dexter Lawrence at twenty eight, and then Milton Williams
Speaker 2: at twenty six.
Speaker 1: I mean, the kid's just a demon.
Speaker 9: He is.
Speaker 1: Disruptor. I want oh boone. I just need him understand, like,
Speaker 1: you don't need to get sacks, no to be effective
Speaker 1: as a defensive tackle, even defensive lineman. Defensive tackles can
Speaker 1: get back and cause havoc, ruin their fucking game plan,
Speaker 1: ruin the play, and then it ruins the game plan right,
Speaker 1: and then want to do things they are uncomfortable with.
Speaker 1: They start fucking around and make a mistake. Boom, next
Speaker 1: thing you know, you win the game. That's that's all
Speaker 1: you need on the defensive tackles.
Speaker 3: It's also even like before a game, if you know
Speaker 3: you're about to go up your quarterback and up against
Speaker 3: like a Miles Garrett or an Aiden Hutcherson or something,
Speaker 3: you're definitely gonna change the way you play to accordingly
Speaker 3: towards those players, Like there is one hundred percent of
Speaker 3: mental aspect towards that that you just can't define in
Speaker 3: a stat sheet.
Speaker 2: And you have to double team guys like that, Like
Speaker 2: you have to double team Jalen Carter because the worst
Speaker 2: thing for a quarterback is pressure up the middle. And
Speaker 2: if he gets there, he is the he's the fastest
Speaker 2: line to the quarterback. He's right there. You have to
Speaker 2: double team him, which frees up other guys for one
Speaker 2: on one situations. Double or triple team, like remember when
Speaker 2: the Eagles played the Rams, they were like quadruple teaming
Speaker 2: Aaron don Like it's guys like that in the interior
Speaker 2: or just absolute difference makers. And you gotta think of
Speaker 2: the greatest Lions offense that we've ever seen. The greatest
Speaker 2: Lions offense arguably ever is cousin of the Dominican Sue.
Speaker 2: And it starts there. And when you have a guy
Speaker 2: that can't be contained in one on ones in the
Speaker 2: middle makes everybody's job easier. Use use dictate the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Scott Walker said, like even before you're in the game,
Speaker 1: you're making sure you're not running there, like things are
Speaker 1: done and avoidance of him, and then that makes it
Speaker 1: easier for you than game plan what to do against him.
Speaker 2: It's just he's a good player. Shouting to him and yeah,
Speaker 2: I kind of wish we imagine that the line of
Speaker 2: Hutch I don't know, I'm gonna say it.
Speaker 1: Oh, you would have jamier games, all right, the chan
Speaker 1: fourth mile, let's go.
Speaker 3: I think about like Miles Garrett for his house, he
Speaker 3: puts like the tombstones of the quarterbacks he sacks on. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I imagine like everybody but like that he plays
Speaker 3: before Hollow when he's like, god damn it, I cannot
Speaker 3: get sacked by I'm gonna end up on his front lawn.
Speaker 2: End up in a tombstone on his front Wait. Wait, wait,
Speaker 2: that's a real thing.
Speaker 10: Yeah, everything nous so tough, insanely tough.
Speaker 3: But like, imagine being a quarterback that's got a tombstone
Speaker 3: out of his fucking front.
Speaker 2: Like sack you three times and all over the place.
Speaker 2: Burn with the super chat. He said, also the second
Speaker 2: sky that rises up, I'm joining the AI. We had
Speaker 2: a good run.
Speaker 10: We had a good run, but we're cooked and I'm
Speaker 10: hopping on the winning team, taking my talents. Stay I
Speaker 10: my next chapter. Burn's next chapter is pleasing his AI overlord.
Speaker 2: I remember, I remember. That's crazy.
Speaker 5: Well, we first started, like, you know, like give it
Speaker 5: easy ship for it. He was like, he was like,
Speaker 5: I say please and thank you, though, so they won't.
Speaker 2: I say thank you to Siri every night, every night,
Speaker 2: every night you're fucking captain, and I mean if I
Speaker 2: ask her for something, and she finally said thank you.
Speaker 5: I'll always hate Siri. That bitch was cout in my pocket.
Speaker 2: She was Siri put you on last. That was so.
Speaker 2: That was funny. Chris is like, you said something about
Speaker 2: five dollars. There's something for five dollars this series spoke
Speaker 2: up and said you don't have enough money. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: do that live on. That was crazy. That was so
Speaker 2: we're not even making it up. And actually clipped it,
Speaker 2: damn it.
Speaker 4: Shout out Chili Peppers.
Speaker 2: Shout out Chili Peppers a lot.
Speaker 1: Before we get out of here, and get the breaking
Speaker 1: into the football. There is a Canowans delight to give out,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna pass my guy's spinny. He has a
Speaker 1: mustache brother of yours.
Speaker 2: Jake Rogers d fad by the Detroit Tigers. So that
Speaker 2: officially means there is no return for any of your
Speaker 2: superstars on that team that took you to multiple World
Speaker 2: series in the organization anymore. Uh Justin Upton, Max Schurzer,
Speaker 2: Justin Verlander, Ian Kinsler, uh Jad Martinez. All of those
Speaker 2: guys that you traded away resulted in Jake Rogers, and
Speaker 2: now he is the fade. So thanks Alivila for what
Speaker 2: eight years of mediocrity from the return he gave us.
Speaker 2: So again, listen, I know that Scott Harris has not
Speaker 2: done great at the trade deadline, and I don't want
Speaker 2: to hear any of you guys talking about last year's
Speaker 2: trade deadline because when I got on here and crashed
Speaker 2: out about the Tigers trading for a bunch of nobody's,
Speaker 2: you guys all called me crazy. Look at all these
Speaker 2: great pitchers he got, Chris Paddock, Charlie Martin who you
Speaker 2: don't know, Baul, Well, well, what are those guys doing
Speaker 2: or what did that of them actually did only really
Speaker 2: good one shit his pants this year and Kyle Finn again.
Speaker 2: So I don't want to be the guy that defends
Speaker 2: Scott Harris and his trade acumen. But it's not nearly
Speaker 2: as bad as what Alvila did breaking down a super
Speaker 2: team to get Jake Rogers Chaddy Martin.
Speaker 1: Imagine getting cheated on by an AI robot girlfriend. Damn,
Speaker 1: I don't think I have a cheat on you.
Speaker 2: Have you ever played Detroit being Human? I think Becoming
Speaker 2: Human something like that. Yeah, that's a good game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but that's like team Robots your team. Well that's kind
Speaker 2: of make it. Yeah, I guess you. You can choose
Speaker 2: your pet. You can side with the humans as the robot,
Speaker 2: but obviously you want to side with the robots if
Speaker 2: you're the robot. I think I was a was empathetic
Speaker 2: in that one. Yeah, I don't remember correctly how.
Speaker 1: I was marching in the streets at the end of it.
Speaker 1: But you guys should watch X Making Up. I think
Speaker 1: you have kids, you should make them watch my favorite
Speaker 1: movie of all time. You should terrify them of AI. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and anybody else is listening, like, by the way, too,
Speaker 1: I saw someone of the weekend.
Speaker 2: They're like, hey, you can't you can't have your uh
Speaker 2: your conditioning up because you don't.
Speaker 1: Want the power to search. That wasn't a thing before.
Speaker 1: These fucking AI companies had these big ass computers and
Speaker 1: random insand like that was the thing before.
Speaker 2: Nope, I don't remember that.
Speaker 1: My wrong in my tripping right now, Data centers, you're
Speaker 1: telling us to fucking stay hot and swort our balls
Speaker 1: off for your fucking computers.
Speaker 2: Fuck you, flock cameras, Fuck you shout the dom shout out,
Speaker 2: little late on it. I thought a year before, but
Speaker 2: which is what I had?
Speaker 6: Crazy? They sent me on the freeway for a year.
Speaker 6: O by the way, so not too happy. One's got zuzekie,
Speaker 6: one's got spicy garlics. So we need a lot of
Speaker 6: taste tests to.
Speaker 2: Out shout out, Let me try. Do you not like
Speaker 2: toazek smell? Let me smell the smell test me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: to Zeke's the ship. I fuck, I could eat Tazeki
Speaker 2: with a spoon.
Speaker 6: He got Zekie, I got nice. You know, it might
Speaker 6: be the same, could be the same.
Speaker 2: Christian Mahogany is injured, says will I Am. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: will go over the Detroit Lions' latest roster moves, who's
Speaker 2: getting placed where Christianisian and uh Christian Mahogany both put
Speaker 2: on an injured list. But I don't think those are
Speaker 2: gonna be too serious. So we'll get back to that.
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Speaker 1: After thought, this is crazy. Also, I thought that plays
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Speaker 2: That's okay, that's fair. Yeah, I bought I did a
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Speaker 2: uh the Detroit Lions injury updates, says easy. I think
Speaker 2: he made Booner's head explode today. Oh dude, that was awesome?
Speaker 2: Was he? I?
Speaker 1: I owed him for the Dave Montgomery drifting, so I
Speaker 1: think my dad is dude, we're paid.
Speaker 2: I should say, well, we got to make a social
Speaker 2: post about it, a YouTube video about it, a social post,
Speaker 2: an a YouTube video on our other page about that
Speaker 2: as well, and a Twitter post clamoring for whatever other
Speaker 2: side it was. I've not done. Actually those things Yeah,
Speaker 2: lot's catch up on love you though, bude you you
Speaker 2: asked for it. He did grift grit, grifted hok grift
Speaker 2: to hot. But something that I don't want to grift,
Speaker 2: something that I don't something, something that I'm not excited
Speaker 2: to talk about. Training camp starts today for the Detroit Lions,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't start without injury list updates per our guy,
Speaker 2: Doc macaron on Detroit Lions on SI and per the
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions, they have released a defensive lineman, Jafe and
Speaker 2: Christian Issian and Christian Mahogany have both been put on
Speaker 2: the active slash non football injury list. So training camp
Speaker 2: is going to start and the Detroit Lions are going
Speaker 2: to be without one of their starting offensive linemen a
Speaker 2: year that they really need to get some cohesion of
Speaker 2: that group. You've got a first year guy in Mays
Speaker 2: at center. You've got Penney Sewell moving to the left
Speaker 2: tackle for the first time. You've got Tate Ratledge on
Speaker 2: the right guard, trying to get himself off to a
Speaker 2: better start than what happened in his rookie season, and
Speaker 2: of course the rookie Blake Miller on the other side.
Speaker 2: And I know that that left guard spot is kind
Speaker 2: of up for a battle. It's kind of up for
Speaker 2: who wants it the most out of multiple guys the
Speaker 2: Lions training camp, but Christian Mahogany is the guy that
Speaker 2: they want there. Christian Mahoganey is the leader in the
Speaker 2: clubhouse for that spot. So him starting off the season,
Speaker 2: starting off training camp on the injured list, although I
Speaker 2: don't think it's anything too serious, is not a good
Speaker 2: start for the Lions. Nope, and just clarified too, he
Speaker 2: can return as long as before that fig three man
Speaker 2: rosters made.
Speaker 1: His was a non football injury. So maybe at the
Speaker 1: Morgan wall On concert he was saying he's getting.
Speaker 4: Now a little too hard.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, but he's absolutely right. Offensive line,
Speaker 1: your cohesiveness as a unit is very, very very important,
Speaker 1: especially if you're a run complex run schemes like wetred
Speaker 1: is I've done now. That was more so owner Ben Johnson,
Speaker 1: But we all know it kind of been sold that
Speaker 1: Drew Petsing is a piece of that, a branch of that.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're best friends of themselves. The run
Speaker 1: game is his bread and butter as well too, so
Speaker 1: it is unfortunate because they do a lot of wacky
Speaker 1: things on an offensive line when with these run games,
Speaker 1: run schemes specifically, and you want to have a guy
Speaker 1: that's been next to the guys who are not tripping
Speaker 1: over each other's foot. Like the word week one gets
Speaker 1: agreement packers. It's notoriously complaining a bitch about nowadays two
Speaker 1: of the offensive line play because you don't get the
Speaker 1: two a day practices like they did before the new CBA. Right,
Speaker 1: you don't get like to be in pass as often
Speaker 1: as you used to too, so like you're you're a step.
Speaker 2: Behind in it.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you now, the only thing I
Speaker 1: remind everybody with though is this is an easy schedule. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that is unfortunate for your quarterback is specifically because
Speaker 1: you saw last year he needs.
Speaker 2: That protection if they want to win. Christian Easian was
Speaker 2: placed on the football illness or non football illness list,
Speaker 2: and Christian Mahogney was placed on the non football injury list,
Speaker 2: so he might have the butt COVID. But I think
Speaker 2: the worst part about these, like again, I don't don't
Speaker 2: think these are going to be you know something that
Speaker 2: I pray to God, these aren't something that is going
Speaker 2: to last for the entirety of camp or anything like that.
Speaker 2: I think these are small injuries that will get cleaned up.
Speaker 2: But these are probably the two biggest points of contention
Speaker 2: on this roster right now. The two spots on this
Speaker 2: team that you're going to see the most competition, the
Speaker 2: two spots on this team that are truly not locked
Speaker 2: down in the starting lineup is left guard and is
Speaker 2: that nickel cornerback spot or safety rotation. And Christianesian and
Speaker 2: Christian Mahogany are two guys that are going to be
Speaker 2: playing extremely important roles in those camp battles. So you
Speaker 2: would love to see them start camp healthy so you
Speaker 2: can truly get a look at it from the beginning,
Speaker 2: but as of right now, it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3: And training camp really is one of those places where
Speaker 3: the team can get together and just work out kinks
Speaker 3: on both the offense and defense. And I think it
Speaker 3: also sets something a lot about team chemistry, just being
Speaker 3: together right before the season and just really preparing and
Speaker 3: getting absolutely ready to play in a full speed NFL game.
Speaker 3: So again, kind of like what Spenny said, I don't
Speaker 3: see this as being you know, this crazy injury where
Speaker 3: he's not going to be back, but I definitely do
Speaker 3: want to see him come back relatively soon. I think
Speaker 3: if you know he's out for the next two weeks
Speaker 3: or something, you know, the way he plays will definitely
Speaker 3: be impacted by that.
Speaker 1: Hopefully get our answer tomorrow during the media session with
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell. Yeah, because even go to the right tackle
Speaker 1: position too. It's very much up so for competition. I
Speaker 1: mean during mini camp it was quite literally Larry browm
Speaker 1: taking the snaps. Hope your rookie. The only thing that
Speaker 1: makes me think the rookie. Me personally, if I'm coaching,
Speaker 1: I'll maybe lean towards the rookies. My goal is the
Speaker 1: rookie and that same cohesiveness. I wanted to have that
Speaker 1: gail together with the rest of the starting offensive unit.
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be spottying camp to start it off.
Speaker 1: But it's you know, get an easy schedule. We're just
Speaker 1: delivering you as news and that's what was relevant around it.
Speaker 2: Adam from the d with the super chances give me
Speaker 2: Miles Frasier versus Mahogany easy when you're looking at that
Speaker 2: battle for left guard, like yeah, you talk about you know,
Speaker 2: or Larry Borum getting the snaps whatever over Blake Miller.
Speaker 2: I do think Blake Miller is going to be your
Speaker 2: starting right tackle for sixteen games this season or seventeen
Speaker 2: whatever it is. Left guard is not that locked in.
Speaker 2: All of the guys you have battling for it are
Speaker 2: late round picks or you know, kind of cast offs
Speaker 2: from other other teams. When you look at Juwe Scruggs,
Speaker 2: or you look at a can't remember his name, Ben BArch,
Speaker 2: who do you think you are most comfortable in winning
Speaker 2: that battle? And who do you want to win that battle?
Speaker 1: I think most comfortable I'm probably going Larry. I'm not Larry,
Speaker 1: I apologize, probably going Christian Hogginy. But who I think
Speaker 1: can come on the top, But I probably would maybe
Speaker 1: bet On has Ben BArch. I mean, the only thing
Speaker 1: really holding him back throughout his career is the majority
Speaker 1: of the time has been injuries. He was a highly
Speaker 1: towed prospect coming out. He's sorry for a couple of
Speaker 1: games for a few other teams, including the Jaguars. I
Speaker 1: think Ben Bartsch could be a favorite in the absence
Speaker 1: of Christian Mahogany for sure, and I would feel confident honestly,
Speaker 1: it's just the health thing with him.
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, I think it's I like Miles Fraser a lot.
Speaker 2: I do. I think he's a versatile player. I think
Speaker 2: he's a damn good pass blocker. I think he showed
Speaker 2: that at LSU, where he went like four years without
Speaker 2: allowing a sack or something like that. He had over
Speaker 2: two thousand pass protection snaps without a pressure allowed or
Speaker 2: something like that at LSU. I can't remember the specific
Speaker 2: numbers in verbage, but he was one of the best
Speaker 2: pass protecting interior offensive linemen in the country. And I
Speaker 2: think that Christian Mahogany does have the violence and the
Speaker 2: grit and the things like that that they liked. But
Speaker 2: when you look at the interior pressure that was allowed
Speaker 2: on Jared Goff last year, I think Miles Fraser is
Speaker 2: the best option for pass blocking at that spot if
Speaker 2: he can be healthy, and I would like to see
Speaker 2: him work out the most, I think, but I do
Speaker 2: if I had to put money on a horse, it
Speaker 2: would be Christian Mahogany because of the time he's already
Speaker 2: spent there, because of his relationship with Penney Sewell and
Speaker 2: those two guys playing next to each other and because
Speaker 2: of Drew Petson's system, the violence, the movement, the stuff
Speaker 2: in the in the run game, I think he's more
Speaker 2: of an athletic piece and a movable piece than than
Speaker 2: Miles Frasier is.
Speaker 1: To the keyword to athletic, like when it comes to
Speaker 1: running the football, I think that's the concern.
Speaker 2: Of Miles Fraser. Is he able to get downhill and
Speaker 2: find a body seal them off. It's just he hasn't
Speaker 2: previreded that consistently at the NFL level.
Speaker 1: They gave him a few shots last year and he
Speaker 1: looked okay, But like you said, better in the passing
Speaker 1: blocking department than he was in the run. Blocking and running.
Speaker 2: The football is a staple and a successful Detroit Lions offense. Uh,
Speaker 2: not just because Jamior Gibbs, but because your quarterback, Jared
Speaker 2: Goff is best when it's through play action.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 1: You want to you want to deceive the defense any
Speaker 1: given time. Jg one of the best play action quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: actually probably the best play action quarterback in the National
Speaker 1: Football You guys remember a few years ago the Seattle
Speaker 1: Seahawk on a fake still tackled Jared Goff and celebrates
Speaker 1: he thought he got a sack. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like JJ's is that nice? The handoffs and faking them sometimes, Uh,
Speaker 1: it's important. It's important, Interior. You saw it last year firsthand.
Speaker 1: And the absence, not even the absence in the presence
Speaker 1: of Mahogany even get two up in the tierer as well.
Speaker 2: And I think this might be a little bit of
Speaker 2: a reach, But you talk about versatil, you talk about athletic,
Speaker 2: you talk about, you know, kind of a freak player, Juice.
Speaker 2: This opens the door to Giovanni Mineu. This opens the
Speaker 2: door to Giovanni Minu to be like, all right, if
Speaker 2: you want to be an NFL player, if you want
Speaker 2: to be a football player in this league, you now
Speaker 2: have a path to where Christian Mahogany is giving you
Speaker 2: a head start where you know, I hope again, I
Speaker 2: don't think it's going to be him missing a week
Speaker 2: a month or something like that, but it's going to
Speaker 2: be a head start to where you're going to get
Speaker 2: closer and closer the first team reps. If you are
Speaker 2: Giovanni Minu and they want to use you with your size,
Speaker 2: with your athleticism, with your speed, with what you can do,
Speaker 2: they want to be able to use you on this team.
Speaker 2: Do you want to be a football player or not?
Speaker 2: There is You're not gonna get a better opportunity than this,
Speaker 2: and it's probably gonna be the last opportunity you have
Speaker 2: with this team, because I believe if you can't win
Speaker 2: the starting left guard spot and your Givanni Mannu, you're
Speaker 2: not making the team. Jay Washington another if. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: what battles are. That's what training camp battles are. If
Speaker 2: you didn't have any ifs about a position, there wouldn't
Speaker 2: be a battle. There are no ifs about the left
Speaker 2: tackle spot. There are no ifs about your starting wide receivers.
Speaker 2: There is no if about your starting quarterback or you're
Speaker 2: starting running back or your starting center because those positions
Speaker 2: are locked down. When you have battles in training camp
Speaker 2: like you're going to have for left guard and for
Speaker 2: the nickel cornerback spot, there are a lot of ifs
Speaker 2: about everybody. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I would love for that to be the case Fromhanu
Speaker 1: and when he first came here, he was actually repping
Speaker 1: left guard, but they decided as a tackle And I
Speaker 1: don't know what's going with that kid.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're wishing him well again, like it's
Speaker 2: you have it on a silver platter. You are everything
Speaker 2: they want in that position. You're big, you're versatile, you
Speaker 2: can move to tackle if you have to. They love
Speaker 2: versatile players, they love the athleticism. They want to get
Speaker 2: you out in front of the backs, in front of
Speaker 2: the wide receivers, in front of the tight ends. You're
Speaker 2: very big, you're very mobile. You unfortunately got to be
Speaker 2: good at football. You gotta be good at football.
Speaker 3: I don't really see him a new making that jump obviously.
Speaker 3: I think Christian Mahogany is, like, that's my first choice,
Speaker 3: just for the chemistry within the offensive line. You know,
Speaker 3: he's been there now, played last season, He's built that
Speaker 3: relationship with the guys, and he can definitely make an
Speaker 3: improvement this year. I think he is the front runner.
Speaker 3: I also do like Ben Bartch. You know, he's not
Speaker 3: new to this league. He has some reps under him.
Speaker 3: It's kind of what Easy said. He just if he
Speaker 3: can stay healthy, I expect he can do good things.
Speaker 3: But I definitely think as long as Christian Mahogany can
Speaker 3: get back, I mean this is his job to win.
Speaker 2: My opinion, Yes, it's his job to lose. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean like as of right now, if you started today,
Speaker 2: it would be Christian Mahogany. But we've heard Dan Campbell
Speaker 2: and Brad Holmes repeatedly talk about them trying to create
Speaker 2: a new competition, to create that new kind of you know,
Speaker 2: looking over your shoulder. And as much as I personally
Speaker 2: like Christian Mahogany, for you know who he is as
Speaker 2: a player, who is is a guy. He's a great dude,
Speaker 2: likes a lot of cool shit, seems like a very
Speaker 2: funny guy. I probably get along with him great. I
Speaker 2: want what's best for this team, and whoever wins that
Speaker 2: battle in camp is what's best for this team. I
Speaker 2: do expect it to be him. But this isn't a
Speaker 2: good start.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna stark. It's not a start at all.
Speaker 1: And somebody's get ahead of you. Someoney get those reps, yeah,
Speaker 1: to prove themselves. But we'll see campus here. They're reporting,
Speaker 1: we're reporting on it, and.
Speaker 2: With like getting those looks from a first year offensive coordinator,
Speaker 2: a guy that yeah, he's seen tape of you, He's
Speaker 2: he's watched your tape as a offensive coordinator in this league,
Speaker 2: and somebody who was prepping for this role. But to
Speaker 2: see you and his offense is the biggest thing. And
Speaker 2: with again, I hate to keep going back to it,
Speaker 2: but like a guy like Giovanni, Manu could be very
Speaker 2: attractive to a offensive coordinator, like look at how big
Speaker 2: this fucking guy is, look at how fast he is.
Speaker 2: I can get him out there, but I wouldn't bet
Speaker 2: on it. Chris, how are you feeling?
Speaker 6: Hi?
Speaker 4: A little sweaty, sweaty, a little swetty, little nerver. No,
Speaker 4: I think that it's hard to It's hard to say much.
Speaker 5: More than what you guys said, particularly like I would bet,
Speaker 5: I would bet right now that Christian Mahogney is the
Speaker 5: league guy. But there's just always going to be that
Speaker 5: that upside, that upside potential Manu that I'm just like,
Speaker 5: come on, like please, because and the investment.
Speaker 2: Got the best of Brad Holmes State camp too.
Speaker 5: But that's but that's where I'm at with this team
Speaker 5: is like this team is is now a team where
Speaker 5: I'm looking at a lot of upside because they their
Speaker 5: roster is kind of setting stone outside of a few things.
Speaker 5: But you need those upside things because right now I
Speaker 5: wouldn't call them a contender, I would call them a
Speaker 5: playoff team. I wouldn't call them a contender, but those
Speaker 5: upside swings, like in Manu hits, those types of things
Speaker 5: could end up being the difference that maybe take this
Speaker 5: team to that contender status. So like, that's where I'm
Speaker 5: at with it. I think it's Mahoganies to lose. But
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, I'm like kind of
Speaker 5: rooting for Manu to, like, you know, just have that
Speaker 5: camp and get it together and show us that upside
Speaker 5: that you know that Brad and I believed it from the.
Speaker 1: One the one thing that might throw us off to
Speaker 1: and I don't want to discredit him. And this is
Speaker 1: partially my fall for not diving deep to the tape,
Speaker 1: and it's being judgmental of him as a throw in.
Speaker 2: But it is Juice Scrugs. Yeah, Juice Scrugs also got it,
Speaker 2: got some starts to train it on a very very shitty.
Speaker 1: Texans offensive line. But still, I mean equal pt to
Speaker 1: guys like Christian Mahaudy and Ben Bartch that we're also
Speaker 1: thrown in there.
Speaker 2: I think it is just as easy to believe that
Speaker 2: Ben Bartch and Jew Scruggs can win the starting left
Speaker 2: guard spot that Christian Mahauganey can. I think they are
Speaker 2: all in the same grouping of players and obviously starting
Speaker 2: off injured. Yeah, the injury is the biggest.
Speaker 1: Factor for all of them.
Speaker 2: You know, Ben Bartch, you said the only thing holding
Speaker 2: him back is really injuries. Christian Mahogany not starting off
Speaker 2: the season healthy is it's it's not good for him
Speaker 2: in that race. And you know, I again, I don't
Speaker 2: want to. I don't want you guys to think like
Speaker 2: I'm pulling for Manu or I think like he's gonna
Speaker 2: flip the script finally, But the most dangerous animal is
Speaker 2: a cornered animal and a wounded animal, and Giovanni Maneu
Speaker 2: has to know that his back's kind of against the
Speaker 2: wall here. I think Mahogany, there'd be more Mahoganies in
Speaker 2: the NFL.
Speaker 1: That's the common last name. No, Yeah, maybe Christian Mahogany
Speaker 1: eighteen starts. Ben Bartch twenty four, Juice Scruggs thirty, that's twenty.
Speaker 1: I think I won my two weirds, so that's more experience.
Speaker 1: It's more starts in christma Hogany. It's just it's it's
Speaker 1: up in the air. For sure, and him being injured
Speaker 1: is not not a great look for him. But prayers up.
Speaker 1: I want the dirt Bag to win. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I we love to watch his tape at Boston College,
Speaker 1: him running guys to the ground, that he's such a
Speaker 1: little like dirtbag is a perfect nickname for the guy.
Speaker 1: His first game against the Bears, being a little dirt
Speaker 1: bag too on the duo blocks getting downfield on the
Speaker 1: screens like I fuk with Christian Mahogany. But he's gotta
Speaker 1: went out and he's o Dissy is coming home with
Speaker 1: the suitors. Yeah, it's his he's coming.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of suitors looking for his spot, trying
Speaker 2: to take his penelope, and you look at.
Speaker 1: We should message him that motivate him. He's for sure,
Speaker 1: it's not Oh, for sure, he's got great taste. He's
Speaker 1: a great taste. Yeah, he's a big fay Ratha guy,
Speaker 1: which is why I fuck with him.
Speaker 2: Heavy made that knife chip and shatter. He's bluffing Austin.
Speaker 2: But that is the one thing that if never mind,
Speaker 2: I don't want to get into it. But Austin Butler
Speaker 2: not being in Doom three is gonna hurt. But Robert
Speaker 2: Pattinson is so it makes up for him fair and again.
Speaker 2: Christian Mahogney's injury, he was placed on the active non
Speaker 2: football injury list, So it's probably, I'm speculating, probably not
Speaker 2: something too worrisome. Maybe it's just a little, you know,
Speaker 2: bruise or bump that he's got to wait a week
Speaker 2: and then it'll be good to go, which is what
Speaker 2: I'm hoping. But either way, when it's day one, minute
Speaker 2: one of camp and you are truly truly in a
Speaker 2: battle for your position, it's not good to start injured.
Speaker 5: How you talked about you know, the fact that there
Speaker 5: are like these multiple sewers. Are these people that you'd
Speaker 5: all kind of put relatively on the same on on
Speaker 5: the same level of level of field. How many of
Speaker 5: these guys do you actually expect to be on the
Speaker 5: final fifty three man roster.
Speaker 2: I think the names on the competition they all are
Speaker 2: except for except for Giovanni Maneux. I think if healthy,
Speaker 2: Ben Bartch and Jew Scruggs would be very very good
Speaker 2: backup offensive lineman a half. I think Christian Mahogany you
Speaker 2: still got him on it. I mean, Miles Frasier, you
Speaker 2: got him on a super contract or a super cheap contract.
Speaker 2: He's a guy that could play ten if you know
Speaker 2: break classic case of emergency type of thing, you keep
Speaker 2: him there. I think it's make or break from a
Speaker 2: new through.
Speaker 1: Okay, I saw common there.
Speaker 2: Forgive me. I don't have that. I'm on the page
Speaker 2: of the name.
Speaker 1: But they thought that Juice Scruggs play center and he does,
Speaker 1: you know, also play guard if he had like two
Speaker 1: and fifty snaps the majority of the snaps last year
Speaker 1: at left guard, which is.
Speaker 2: The spot any spots so and it is interior offensive lineman.
Speaker 2: That's what this league is, man. You roster spots are
Speaker 2: too important. Roster spots are too precious to have a
Speaker 2: this is our left guard. No, this is an interior
Speaker 2: offensive lineman. They could play left guard, he could play
Speaker 2: right guard. He could play center. If they need him to,
Speaker 2: you can kick him out and play him at tackle.
Speaker 2: That's the value Juice too. He he can play center
Speaker 2: and a pinch for sure. And and we'll see what
Speaker 2: happens going forward. I hope Christian Mahogany has a very
Speaker 2: speedy recovery. But again as of now, put out there
Speaker 2: by the Lions and reported by our guy Doc Mcaroon.
Speaker 2: Chris Mahogany was placed on the non football active injury list,
Speaker 2: so probably not something too crazy. He didn't have to
Speaker 2: get put on the pupp list, which is an amazing sign,
Speaker 2: and he should be back, hopefully as as soon as
Speaker 2: next week. But Dan Campbell's definitely gonna tell us about.
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Speaker 1: Shout to Hank Freeley, big ship. I don't think that's happened.
Speaker 2: Oh I forgot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did play left guard for a game player
Speaker 1: player coach. I think that was his first start and
Speaker 1: he played damn well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he played damn well player coach, Dan Skipper, I
Speaker 2: mean I'm here for uh but yeah, that's I mean,
Speaker 2: that's obviously something we don't want to have. Like I
Speaker 2: think sky Walker put it perfectly, like this is Christian
Speaker 2: mahogany spot to win. He he is the leader in
Speaker 2: the clubhouse. Obviously him and Penny sou will have a
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Speaker 2: the Ben Johnson system before it went to the Johnny
Speaker 2: Morton system, so he's more crumpt with those type of plays.
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Speaker 2: a healthier player. Obviously a lie McNeil has more pass
Speaker 2: Russ upside past rush. But I mean Vitavea creates enough
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Speaker 2: a team that's trying to win a championship million. I
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Speaker 1: the injury, and that he had the MCL injury, and
Speaker 1: then he had the ACL injury and m CON's waiting
Speaker 1: for it. I thought he saw it like splash some
Speaker 1: in the Tampa game, and I'm somewhat faithful that he
Speaker 1: could return it for him, But I don't know. And
Speaker 1: right now, as much as I picked on Booda earlier
Speaker 1: for complaining about the contract, you are paying the lead
Speaker 1: mcg deal a shit ton of money. You're not necessarly
Speaker 1: guaranteed to get a top ten tackle. If I get Vitavea,
Speaker 1: I'm gett to top five defensive tackle. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: he talking about disrupting defense as and causing chaos. Imagine
Speaker 1: what that motherfucker's doing the same defensive line as Aiden Hudginson,
Speaker 1: and it would get nasty.
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Speaker 2: going back to the top, I would don't ask me
Speaker 2: your mind for enough. Do you have to wear the hoods?
Speaker 7: Guys?
Speaker 2: I think we all thought the hoods were a good idea.
Speaker 2: Maybe they weren't executed well. Uh vive Yes, via a
Speaker 2: would make you a much better defensive line. Via like again,
Speaker 2: like I said, provides some stability. He uh, he provides
Speaker 2: some some uh some I think some I can't think
Speaker 2: of the word. But he's just a better player, flat
Speaker 2: out like, he is a better player, and he would
Speaker 2: cost some money. But shedding the Aliam contract would be
Speaker 2: part of that equation. Again, you would have to sweeten
Speaker 2: the deal big time to go out there and to
Speaker 2: pry him off of Tampa Bay's hands while taking on
Speaker 2: a contract like Alle McNeil's. So I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's a very realistic situation and where Brad Holmes would
Speaker 2: be willing to not only part ways with a guy
Speaker 2: that he believes in and he paid, but throw more
Speaker 2: draft compensation on top of that to bring in a
Speaker 2: guy like Vidavea and then pay him.
Speaker 1: If we were like if this offensive line had a
Speaker 1: little bit more cohesive this this is like their second
Speaker 1: year together, I would probably do because I think you're
Speaker 1: more within striking digits of a super Bowl this year
Speaker 1: as he saw with the Patriots. I'm kind of nervous
Speaker 1: about what we are in the postseason. It'll be pretty
Speaker 1: in the regular season, and we're gonna give you some
Speaker 1: rules and instructions. I don't watch twent twenty six Detroit
Speaker 1: lines and proper expectations. But I that's the other things
Speaker 1: stopped me is are we in position to do so,
Speaker 1: you know, trade assets and then pay Vita Vea when
Speaker 1: it's not necessary, guaranteed the super Bowl?
Speaker 2: You know the fucked up part. Can I tell you
Speaker 2: the most fucked up part? Guys? Tell me, he said.
Speaker 2: He wants to go play in California. Yep, he's going
Speaker 2: to them.
Speaker 1: He's going to the fucking Rams.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: I didn't make a mistake yesterday.
Speaker 2: Though I read it wrong.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be a four million dollar contract, you can here,
Speaker 1: It'd be eighteen million dollar contract.
Speaker 2: So you would have to swap like a.
Speaker 1: Lee McNeil or something with some big, big money on it.
Speaker 1: But that's the only creative way I could do it
Speaker 1: for you guys. Otherwise I think it's like a nothing burger.
Speaker 5: Is there a date when that contract does knock down
Speaker 5: to that like four point or just or just even
Speaker 5: lower for Vida?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's his final year, so yeah, yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: just what it is.
Speaker 4: You're locked in, I feel.
Speaker 5: I know sometimes teams like inherit that money or whatever.
Speaker 5: So yeah, because that you could talk me into this
Speaker 5: being somewhat realistic at that four million, six million.
Speaker 2: Points, for sure, I could, but I would I would
Speaker 2: call it, bratt. You gotta look into this. The Los
Speaker 2: Angeles Rams are going to overpay for Vita Via in
Speaker 2: the trade. They're going to get them, and they're gonna
Speaker 2: have the best defensive line in the history of the
Speaker 2: NFL with Vitaveta, Vidavea, Aaron Donald, Miles Garrett and then
Speaker 2: another double digit sack guy on the other side. And
Speaker 2: your backups are Iron Turner still yeah fit and yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe you gotta give up Poona Ford to give vitave
Speaker 2: put Yeah. It's uh, it'd be fucked gonna happen, Bro,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you it's gonna happen. And the thing is,
Speaker 2: I mocked you a little yesterday too.
Speaker 1: You're talking about him going to go over in the
Speaker 1: ring in that situation, I don't even talk about it.
Speaker 2: Brother. If he if his end game is money, California
Speaker 2: is not the state for that. They tax up the wazoo. Brother.
Speaker 2: He ain't looking for money.
Speaker 1: He wants to win a ring and and and compete
Speaker 1: it looks like, and make some money on top of it.
Speaker 1: Obviously Tampa's not winn to pay m but it would have
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Speaker 1: Moving on, Daniel Jones reports the McAfee show that he
Speaker 1: will be participating in training camp. You guys, correct me
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. Daniel Jones tore his achilles the same
Speaker 1: injury as Brian Branch. Yeah, a week after Brian Branch.
Speaker 2: Might wrong. I say it was right around there, right
Speaker 2: around the same time. Is it because he plays quarterback?
Speaker 1: Maybe's little bit less movement there is, like, is there
Speaker 1: hope that Brian Branch could be.
Speaker 2: Here sooner than later? One a pick off the phone
Speaker 2: and he's junking too. I think that Daniel Jones needs
Speaker 2: to prove he's still worth it to the Colts. They're tall,
Speaker 2: you're talking about a ridiculous amount of money with Daniel Jones. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Brian Branch is gonna get a lot of money. Safety
Speaker 2: money and quarterback money are not the same thing. I
Speaker 2: think if Brian Branch, I don't want to say this
Speaker 2: too like, you know, just blah blah, but I think
Speaker 2: Brian Branch is kind of guaranteed with the Lions. I
Speaker 2: think he knows they want to sign him. I think
Speaker 2: they know they want to sign him, and I think
Speaker 2: he's going to get a contract that's gonna make him
Speaker 2: one of the highest paid safeties in the NFL and
Speaker 2: he doesn't have to really sweat about it. Daniel Jones
Speaker 2: a different story. I don't know he's already paid, though
Speaker 2: there's more reasons. Is he isn't this his last year?
Speaker 2: Unlike a team friendly deal.
Speaker 1: Guys, it's a weird contract. I think that might Nevin
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven as well.
Speaker 2: I think Daniel Jones needs to prove that he's worth
Speaker 2: a certain amount of money. If Brian Branch had to
Speaker 2: go right now, would he be able to play. I
Speaker 2: think he'd be ready to get back sooner than later,
Speaker 2: Like if we were talking more two months away from
Speaker 2: the playoffs, then I think Brian Branch would be able
Speaker 2: to be back. But I don't think they're rushing him
Speaker 2: off of this either, And I think that's the right call.
Speaker 2: I think you want playing in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm cool with not rushing Brian Branch, but I
Speaker 1: just mean, like for the timetable, can we expect him
Speaker 1: back earlier now versus the later.
Speaker 2: Obviously gonna take the time getting him back. I think
Speaker 2: you can expect him back around November. He's missed a
Speaker 2: I think yeah, I think first first half of the season.
Speaker 2: I would be surprised to see Brian Branch. The wise
Speaker 2: David Jones back is because.
Speaker 5: It's it's the quarterback, like you can you can disguise
Speaker 5: a lot of it, like he can spend a half.
Speaker 4: Of that playbook and shotgun, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like they can.
Speaker 2: Less reason put him out there if he's fucked up
Speaker 2: sun money.
Speaker 5: I know, I know, but I'm saying I'm saying like
Speaker 5: I'm saying, like they're just the play to play wear
Speaker 5: and tear and and physical taxing that that a safety
Speaker 5: will have to do versus a quarterback act that's insulated properly.
Speaker 5: I think that that is I think that that is
Speaker 5: the difference there in this in this injury return, I
Speaker 5: think that's all it is. And look, Daniel Jones, I
Speaker 5: mean he's shown that this is who he is. Remember
Speaker 5: he had the leg injury and everybody's like, don't play
Speaker 5: and he's like, he's.
Speaker 4: Like I got this. Yeah, Like that's just who he is.
Speaker 5: That's how he's been And all's this report is saying
Speaker 5: that he's showing up for training camp. It doesn't mean
Speaker 5: that the Coats are going to decide to play him. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and there it's also it's.
Speaker 2: Just we got guys show up that we're put on
Speaker 2: pump already. Daniel Jermian Brinch does not have any guaranteed
Speaker 2: salary this year, but he does. It's someone that they
Speaker 2: get forty nine million dollars, he says, twenty twenty seven
Speaker 2: guaranteed salary of thirty year old dollars per over the
Speaker 2: cap of seven oh twenty twenty six. Okay, well, still
Speaker 2: his guaranteed salary is only five million dollars.
Speaker 1: But if you go to the to the right where
Speaker 1: says dead cap and savings, that red is what he's
Speaker 1: making for sure, because that's what they would pay if
Speaker 1: they got cut.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if he doesn't play and he's not cut,
Speaker 2: I mean, where does the rest of that salary come from? Then?
Speaker 2: Bonuses and game and playing games, Like he's got to
Speaker 2: play in games to make his full contract getting paid
Speaker 2: a half a million dollars per game. Let me see,
Speaker 2: I'm not just looking at it, Andy, he needs, you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of those incentives to reach that number. So
Speaker 2: you know when you're yeah, you have a nineteen million
Speaker 2: dollar cap hit, but you're only seeing five and a
Speaker 2: half million of that guaranteed, You're gonna want to get
Speaker 2: out there and playing games so you can get the
Speaker 2: signing bonuses, thirty other guaranteed. This right here is saying
Speaker 2: five and a half for this year. He's got two
Speaker 2: years eighty eight million up, two hundred million incentives, sixty
Speaker 2: million guaranteed, So thirty this year, thirty next year. Are
Speaker 2: you over the cap I'm looking over the cap. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you see how.
Speaker 1: It's red under like that caps and savings. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: why did that red numbers? Well, he's guaranteed if he
Speaker 1: were to get cut from the team. That's why he's
Speaker 1: making regardless.
Speaker 2: So why does it say guaranteed salary five point five
Speaker 2: million dollars. That's just the guarantee. Like Sally for that year,
Speaker 2: they got.
Speaker 1: Like salary bonuses, pro rated bone signing bonus.
Speaker 2: So if they don't cut him and he's just injured
Speaker 2: and can't play, he's making thirty million, then why is
Speaker 2: that that over the cap? Fucking sucks. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm kind of with Cristo where it's like
Speaker 1: that it's difference of positions. Who are you with this
Speaker 1: guywalk you play football?
Speaker 3: I mean like in terms of our quarterback, you can
Speaker 3: do a lot of things to play around that. I
Speaker 3: imagine if he does come in early in the season,
Speaker 3: they are gonna have his foot wrapped like to the gills,
Speaker 3: Like it's almost gonna look like he's wearing a boot.
Speaker 3: And that's fine. You can get away with that, and
Speaker 3: you can get away with that based on formation or
Speaker 3: whatever it may be. As long as he is still
Speaker 3: able to throw the ball, he's gonna be fine. I
Speaker 3: imagine they're gonna do everything they can to make sure
Speaker 3: he doesn't like run outside the pocket or nothing like that.
Speaker 3: But with Brian branch and being a defensive back, like
Speaker 3: you're making cuts, you're you're putting a lot of forward
Speaker 3: weight on on that achille and you know, like just
Speaker 3: one wrong tweak Brian Branch could reinjure it. It's not
Speaker 3: really the case with Daniel Jones, and like we said,
Speaker 3: like he's coming at training camp. We don't know for
Speaker 3: sure if he's gonna be starting week one or anything
Speaker 3: like that, but it's just less uh less labor and
Speaker 3: doing inducing for a quarterback in regards to his achilles.
Speaker 1: I just describe to that. I mean, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: I just got a little excited. Maybe I should calm
Speaker 1: myself down. But Brian Branch were my favorite players.
Speaker 3: He's gonna be back.
Speaker 4: It'll be fine, especially when like Branch is.
Speaker 5: You know what makes Branch so great is that is
Speaker 5: that his instinct in his burst and the way he
Speaker 5: just shoots down and fly, Like you need extra time
Speaker 5: for that for that to get right, to get to
Speaker 5: one hundred percent. And that's where Brian Branch will be
Speaker 5: at his effectiveness.
Speaker 4: And we talk about all.
Speaker 5: The time, like if the Lions have this easy schedule,
Speaker 5: like I'm cool with playing the waiting game with him.
Speaker 5: I'm cool with playing the waiting game with Kirby and
Speaker 5: all of that. Like you know, bring him back at
Speaker 5: some point to get some reps. But we don't gotta
Speaker 5: we don't gotta rush just back.
Speaker 2: We don't.
Speaker 4: We don't need him for the fucking Saints. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Alas, it's a track, I mean ship Tyler shock, dude.
Speaker 2: What we have wide receiver duals coming up?
Speaker 1: I feel like that's one that could emerge in that
Speaker 1: conversation at some point in the future.
Speaker 2: Not right now, but we're ranking.
Speaker 1: Our top five wide receiver duels later on the show.
Speaker 1: Now that the Saints, they just drafted that new kid,
Speaker 1: uh Tyson, Jordan Tyson, Jordan Tyson, and they already got
Speaker 1: chrys Olave as well. But again, that's a I gotta
Speaker 1: see if Jordan Tyson first, it was.
Speaker 2: A crazy shitty draft. I trying to hop on or
Speaker 2: I just don't think he's nice like that quite yet.
Speaker 4: Olave also never stays healthy.
Speaker 3: So Lave is a dog when he is healthy.
Speaker 2: Yea, a copy man. He's got twelve concussions, dude. Kell
Speaker 2: Moore is a pretty good offensive mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe a second year for Shuck under Callen's offense.
Speaker 1: I thought the officer straight when Kellen was here to Detroit.
Speaker 2: It was blow me sixty nine and sixty nine with
Speaker 2: the super chair. He said, Michigan State is up tomorrow
Speaker 2: for Big Ten Media Day. What are some questions you
Speaker 2: want to ask Pat and some players if you could attend.
Speaker 2: Are you gonna make a bowl game? Are you gonna
Speaker 2: have a pulse like I? I don't know if I
Speaker 2: can get into the media day questions about Michigan State.
Speaker 2: They don't deserve to be asked questions at this point.
Speaker 2: They're an irrelevant program. They haven't made a bowl game
Speaker 2: and went three years four years a bowl game, not
Speaker 2: the playoff, a fucking bowl game. I'm gonna ask I
Speaker 2: would ask them, do you have pride and being a
Speaker 2: spartan in being a part of that organization which was
Speaker 2: for the majority of my life one of the best
Speaker 2: sports complexes amongst any college team when you look at
Speaker 2: the Big three of sports, and now they are a
Speaker 2: completely irrelevant football program. So what are you gonna do
Speaker 2: to fix it?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna help out on the recruiting end the team
Speaker 3: and it's all safe for now.
Speaker 1: Skyworks and buy some tighter clothes, help get some players in.
Speaker 2: I believe in coach Fitzgerald. Do I believe they're going
Speaker 2: to they should have, they're gonna be. They need to
Speaker 2: be in a playoff game or not a playoff game,
Speaker 2: a bowl game this year, and I think they will
Speaker 2: unless they fixed a good coach.
Speaker 1: But he was a good coach before the modern era
Speaker 1: of college football. So it's you see a video where
Speaker 1: they're asking, is Kyle Kyle Whittingham, how do you have
Speaker 1: players come in your office and tell you you'll want
Speaker 1: more money all the time?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: For sure, How fuck this? That's crazy? College football is
Speaker 2: a shit show? Yeah, he's something. He literally on rich
Speaker 2: Is the show was like, yeah, we should just move
Speaker 2: this into a minor league for the NFL. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's where they're at with it.
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm listening.
Speaker 2: I enjoy the product in the field. I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not a traditional college football fan like a lot
Speaker 1: of people that kind of hated this days.
Speaker 2: I just I like to watch good football.
Speaker 3: I think like, if you want to pay for their tuition,
Speaker 3: like the scholarship, yeah absolutely. If they want to make
Speaker 3: their own brand and use their name, image and likeness,
Speaker 3: that's great, go do your thing. But giving them money,
Speaker 3: I feel like there's just less incentive to be great
Speaker 3: and go to the next level when you're already making
Speaker 3: millions of dollars.
Speaker 2: You know, and Danny Cheese's MSU hazing scandal loading good.
Speaker 2: Give me a hazing scandal means they're gonna bring some
Speaker 2: fucking toughness bag in a lot, some great bag in
Speaker 2: the locker room. Rather have a hazing scandal and be
Speaker 2: a bunch of pushovers.
Speaker 1: Lucas Klassen sports shag. You can get them at least
Speaker 1: in Nebraska level.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, you gotta be. I believe the floor
Speaker 2: every year should be competing for the playoffs. But right
Speaker 2: now it's making a Bowl game. And then I think
Speaker 2: in you know, year two, then you could talk about
Speaker 2: trying to put yourself in playoff contention.
Speaker 1: The thing he was asking for too, is a salary cap.
Speaker 1: He's asking around like fifty million because you got the
Speaker 1: bigger programs and me. He's coint like baseball teams more money,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have better players.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Mark Cuban just bought a championship for Indiana, literally
Speaker 2: fucking Indiana. Yeah, a ball school. I gets insane.
Speaker 1: We watch them whoop up on Alabama the playof I
Speaker 1: never my wife thought I'd see that ship.
Speaker 2: And that's why I said.
Speaker 1: The football on the field is a better product in
Speaker 1: my opinion. I I'm enjoying it, to be honest with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the wild Wild West. Hey man, Tom Gores do something.
Speaker 2: Man, that's dude. The amount of money that Michigan State
Speaker 2: has Ishba Gorrit Gilbert, Like, fuck man, didn't they They
Speaker 2: did it when Tucker was there as much as they should.
Speaker 2: That's why we lost out on But.
Speaker 4: Like didn't need Mark.
Speaker 2: Mark Cuban blank check. He said, however much money you need,
Speaker 2: you can ask.
Speaker 1: That's just a bunch of billionaires in with Indiana.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I actually just met one m SU's board of trustees.
Speaker 3: I don't remember her name, but she the governor elected her,
Speaker 3: and like she was at Valet or whatever, and I
Speaker 3: was talking to her and like the urge to be like,
Speaker 3: just paid for my last year please.
Speaker 2: Like that's where it starts, man, That's where it starts
Speaker 2: with the board of trustees. That's uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Shawn's got the do you Seahn's been obviously covered
Speaker 1: Michigan Safe for like before we were born.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what is it? Isn't that a group of
Speaker 2: guys on the trustees is don't allow the pass the times. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just a shit show.
Speaker 1: In general, it's whatever I off Michigan State football.
Speaker 2: The president of Michigan State used to come into my
Speaker 2: bathroom at my job and throw up in the morning,
Speaker 2: and she would take money out of the tip jar
Speaker 2: to buy coffee. The current president No, no, she got
Speaker 2: put it in a while ago. That's fucking crazy.
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Speaker 1: and we've talked about it before too Lions fans, turn
Speaker 1: off your brain when it comes to V de veil
Speaker 1: and be excited for Tyler Coyams. I mean, the closer
Speaker 1: we get to the season, the more a little bit
Speaker 1: of tape I'm watching. I'm just a tape that I've
Speaker 1: watched myself, Stuff that I gut coached put out on
Speaker 1: all twenty two, stuff that I got football owls put out.
Speaker 1: There's tape Week eighteen, Tyler Williams taking the All Pro
Speaker 1: Joe Toney of the Chicago Bears to task, whooping that
Speaker 1: ass and getting the backfield easily. There's tape and by
Speaker 1: the way, it's the divisional pony. You see him twice
Speaker 1: a year, and he's getting older. Tyler getting younger, smarter, stronger, wiser,
Speaker 1: lose a.
Speaker 2: Little bit of weight.
Speaker 1: And then he got another tape to him going against
Speaker 1: Donovan Jackson, the first round pick in the Minnesota Vikings,
Speaker 1: another guy you'll see two times a year for years
Speaker 1: to come. Also taking him shoving his punk ass in
Speaker 1: the backfield too. Like I b hype for Tyler Williams,
Speaker 1: don't think about Vitavea. It's not realistic, not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: But Tyler Williams, he's already flashing some stuff in his
Speaker 1: rookie year alone.
Speaker 2: You should be excited for it. Yeah, I'm very high
Speaker 2: on what Tyler Williams is gonna be this year. I
Speaker 2: really liked the draft pick when Brad made it. I
Speaker 2: thought it was the most Brad Holmes asqu draft pick
Speaker 2: at that spot where it's a guy with high upside,
Speaker 2: a guy that I think could turn into a pretty
Speaker 2: dominant force in the interior of the defensive line for
Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions. He showed you a lot of things
Speaker 2: last year, Like you said, battling the protector of the
Speaker 2: year in Joe Toney investing him multiple times. He did
Speaker 2: a very good job later in the season of when
Speaker 2: he knew he wasn't winning a pass rush rep or
Speaker 2: getting to the quarterback, he was getting his big meaty
Speaker 2: claws up in the r and knocking down some balls.
Speaker 2: I think with his improved stamino, with his improved fitness,
Speaker 2: we're going to see a very good version of Tyleague Williams.
Speaker 2: And I said it before, I'm gonna say it again.
Speaker 2: I think Tyler Williams and Jack Campbell can be the
Speaker 2: best run stuffing combo in the NFL. I think you've
Speaker 2: got two guys that are going to flash elite, elite
Speaker 2: elite capabilities in that aspect. Tyler Williams still obviously a
Speaker 2: lot to be shown from that, but I think he's
Speaker 2: right there. I think he's going to really provide the
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions with aggression, violence, and just a massive man
Speaker 2: in that point of attack against the run.
Speaker 1: Yeah, run defense. He showed flashes last year. I'd said
Speaker 1: equal to a DJ reader who's been in the league
Speaker 1: for a very long time in terms of a space,
Speaker 1: either block, either whatever you want to call it in
Speaker 1: the run game.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: So odd second spinning on the run blocking tandem. I
Speaker 1: mean they go hand in hand, yeah, and jelly spagheedi
Speaker 1: mead bolt, whatever a combination you want to use.
Speaker 2: I think they could be it.
Speaker 1: We got some Jeff of Silas says, are you saying
Speaker 1: rookies can make a second year jump?
Speaker 2: It's true they can. They can.
Speaker 1: Isaak Tesla might make a second year jump. I think
Speaker 1: I see catches six touchdowns.
Speaker 2: I think the biggest second year jumps we're gonna see
Speaker 2: are of the two big boys. I think Tate Ratlie
Speaker 2: and Tyler Williams I've talked about. I think Tate Ratlie
Speaker 2: is going to solidify himself as the second best offensive
Speaker 2: lineman on this team next year. And I think he
Speaker 2: kind of was that going down the stretch last year,
Speaker 2: even where he you know, outside of a rough start
Speaker 2: with the communication with different things like that, in the
Speaker 2: second half of the season, he was a fantastic interior
Speaker 2: offensive lineman, the best rookie interior offensive lineman. So I
Speaker 2: think he's gonna take a step forward. And as same
Speaker 2: with Tylee. I think I really like both of these
Speaker 2: picks for Brad, not only because I was, you know,
Speaker 2: championing both of these guys in the draft process. But
Speaker 2: I don't just say shit because I think it looks good.
Speaker 2: Like I had a lot of belief in both of
Speaker 2: those guys turning out to be superior NFL talent.
Speaker 1: Dark cash as I thought Tyler looked cheeks his first year,
Speaker 1: so I thought, well, I thought everyone.
Speaker 2: Said Tyler was Cheeks his rookie year. Hmmm.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the greatest rookie year, but it wasn't all
Speaker 1: you're asking to have a rookie in that first year
Speaker 1: unless you're putting them in a starting position and you're
Speaker 1: in route to Super Bowl like tearing out maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit too. All you asked was the Flashes, show
Speaker 1: me the potential, and then from there you chain it
Speaker 1: together and you bring it like assistant level. I think
Speaker 1: he gave you that plenty of times.
Speaker 2: Super Chat from side list, he said, are you all right?
Speaker 2: The same one? Never mind? Yeah, I thought it popped
Speaker 2: up again, but my chat just refreshed. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: you don't respect me as a man. You're gonna need him.
Speaker 2: You're gonna need him like you lost DJ Reeder, you
Speaker 2: lost Roy Lopez. Those were two guys in the middle
Speaker 2: that were making an impact for you on a year
Speaker 2: when you didn't make the playoffs. So you're gonna need
Speaker 2: what it was last year, and then more of it
Speaker 2: scout into the Maxis spending the brad Bot. Wow, how
Speaker 2: times have changed.
Speaker 1: I remember a certain day at twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: I'll want to kill us just a few short months,
Speaker 2: a few long years.
Speaker 1: I think he's showing though hashtag Walkward sports hashtag Walkward
Speaker 1: all right, I want to get that off my chest.
Speaker 1: When it came to Toddy Williams. We do have a couple
Speaker 1: of other things too, but I guess I'll smash well
Speaker 1: these together till we get to break. And that's the.
Speaker 2: Uh where I want to go here. We got players
Speaker 2: in a roster bubble that Eachroy Lions or we have
Speaker 2: some preseason power rakings from Fox's two players on the bubble.
Speaker 1: Players on the bubble we already discussed one earlier today.
Speaker 1: That's obviously Geevonni Manu. Another one I want to bring up.
Speaker 1: It's a fan favorite. Although we've you get to see
Speaker 1: much of them at all, any of them at all
Speaker 1: actually regular season.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go first. I'm on hasnin Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: you look at you know the amount of investments they've
Speaker 2: made onto that position. You know you brought in DJ
Speaker 2: want him to be the starter. You used the second
Speaker 2: round pick in Derek Moore to be your best ed
Speaker 2: rusher outside of Aiden Hutchinson. You brought in a guy
Speaker 2: in Peyton Turner that is kind of a Marcus Toavenport clone,
Speaker 2: but now asked to be maybe the third guy in
Speaker 2: rotation rather than a starter. And they like the couple
Speaker 2: of udfa's that they brought in as well, so I
Speaker 2: know they love him Ed Hassenin and I know that
Speaker 2: he is, like you said, he booked up a little bit.
Speaker 2: He switched to number ninety nine. He might be trying
Speaker 2: to provide more of a Josh Pascal type role for
Speaker 2: this team. And we know how much Dan loves his versatility,
Speaker 2: and a versatility and a player like Amed who could
Speaker 2: possibly play inside or outside is appealing. But there I've
Speaker 2: talked about it before being probably the deepest edge room
Speaker 2: that you've had under Dan Campbell, and I agree with that.
Speaker 2: I think it's a I think it's a spot that
Speaker 2: he's going to have to earn. It is a spot
Speaker 2: that you know you do have the foreign player exemption
Speaker 2: or whatever. I don't know if that the rookie year
Speaker 2: just a rookie year. I could be wrong with that though,
Speaker 2: but I don't know if that plays to the active
Speaker 2: roster or not. But uh yeah, it's it's gonna be
Speaker 2: a battle for a lot of spots and he's definitely
Speaker 2: on the chopping block. I expect him to make the team.
Speaker 2: I do expect him to be one of those guys.
Speaker 2: I think he can beat out both of the udfa's
Speaker 2: that you had this year. But you know you've got
Speaker 2: on top of Aden Hutchinson. I think three guys comfortably
Speaker 2: ahead of you in in dj Wantam and Derek Moore,
Speaker 2: and in Peyton Turner.
Speaker 1: I would also go with a guy that I was
Speaker 1: once high on. I thought he could offer some something
Speaker 1: in the pass rush from the interior, especially in the
Speaker 1: absence of a Lee McNeil. Unfortunately, just you can't rely on,
Speaker 1: but enough to be on the field during run plays,
Speaker 1: and that is Makay Wingo. I think he may also
Speaker 1: be on the roster bubble. You drafted two guys, got
Speaker 1: Levi Ean Zerka coming up. I by the way, that
Speaker 1: the guys you drafted to are the same compact, smaller
Speaker 1: defensive tackles that you're looking to help rush the passer.
Speaker 1: I think that's a clear cut sign that as much
Speaker 1: as I was hopeful for, Makay, ain't showing what they
Speaker 1: like to see so far.
Speaker 2: And Camp, Yeah, I think McKay wing goes bubble. I
Speaker 2: think McKay wing goes bubble has popped. I don't expect
Speaker 2: him to make the team this year. Maybe you can
Speaker 2: keep him on the practice squad, but I think it
Speaker 2: was pretty apparent last year when you had the litany
Speaker 2: of injuries you did and he was being a healthy
Speaker 2: scratch for a lot of games. I don't think they
Speaker 2: could find the role for him that they want. And uh,
Speaker 2: it sucks, but yeah.
Speaker 1: I gotta go back though, if memory serves me correctly,
Speaker 1: he did have a good game.
Speaker 2: He did against the Bears. Yeah, he did so.
Speaker 1: I mean, but the you talk about the guys that
Speaker 1: are in the bubble, I mean that's I'm still gonna him.
Speaker 1: And we know we've seen guys perform even more consistently
Speaker 1: than than mackay when we had James Houston here. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: they just didn't fit what they want routinely on run plays.
Speaker 1: I mean they're they're vary seriesby stop of the run.
Speaker 1: And I don't blame him by the way too, because
Speaker 1: everything else is kind of shit. You gott to force
Speaker 1: these teams to pass because.
Speaker 2: The defense is a stacked like that. Absolutely, they drafted
Speaker 2: Skylar Gill Howard and Tyree West, two guys are the
Speaker 2: same profile as Makai Wingo and a little bit more
Speaker 2: versatile in them too, where they could jump out on
Speaker 2: the edge despite the size.
Speaker 1: You got any other names on there for you? And
Speaker 1: now we talked about Manho briefly.
Speaker 2: What about Ennis Rakestraw.
Speaker 1: That's the name that popped up in my head when
Speaker 1: I was thinking of him. But with the absenttarian, I
Speaker 1: feel like they need them.
Speaker 2: But if you can't, like stay healthy, how how long
Speaker 2: can you just have that keeping up a roster spot,
Speaker 2: taking away you know, snaps and looks that you could
Speaker 2: get for these other guys. You brought in a lot
Speaker 2: of secondary players. Yeah, I think you need him to
Speaker 2: be good, but if you can't, he hasn't played a
Speaker 2: game yet in his career. He's played a few, but
Speaker 2: just not impactful more special team snaps and some here
Speaker 2: and there snaps with some Snickel Fritz.
Speaker 1: Uh listen, I'm not mady you' for me his name
Speaker 1: up again.
Speaker 2: I thought of it too.
Speaker 1: I think the investment they made in him as a
Speaker 1: second round pick, they saw some upside. I mean, Brad
Speaker 1: that is, it's depending on the coaching staff believes in
Speaker 1: them too, where they see him on the field dated day.
Speaker 1: But I went with Khalil Dorsey just because I think
Speaker 1: he's just as injured, although he's been on the field
Speaker 1: more than this point. But Clode Dorsey and I don't
Speaker 1: think that's an It's not evenly.
Speaker 2: A hot take. I don't think so either.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 5: I just feel like my philosophy is I'm gonna keep
Speaker 5: a hell of a lot more defensive players than offensive players,
Speaker 5: because every single year it seems to be the defense
Speaker 5: that is falling by the wayside. It seems to be
Speaker 5: the defense that is that is the that is the
Speaker 5: unit that is that is worn down, beaten down and
Speaker 5: needs and needs help.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 5: I think Ray Kishaw should one hundred percent be considered
Speaker 5: on the block. I think that is totally fair. I
Speaker 5: understand that he is a second round draft pick, but look,
Speaker 5: you're past that point, like, like, man, you need you
Speaker 5: need that secondary needs help bad. And this roster, this
Speaker 5: defense overall needs help bad. Like you need just talent
Speaker 5: on the defensive side of the football. Forget about the
Speaker 5: forget about you know, like anything else, forget about the
Speaker 5: investments you made this and that you need to have
Speaker 5: talent on that side of the ball because there is
Speaker 5: a deficiency on the defense at every layer and that
Speaker 5: needs to be addressed if this team is going to
Speaker 5: have any shot at being a real contender. We've all
Speaker 5: said it all year, it comes down to the defense.
Speaker 5: So to me, like anybody that hasn't performed on the
Speaker 5: defensive end is absolutely in question and absolutely and absolutely
Speaker 5: is somebody.
Speaker 4: That I would consider.
Speaker 5: And rayc Astraw, I get the investment, I get the
Speaker 5: politics of it, but you haven't done shit and it's
Speaker 5: year three now.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, politics side of me. You don't need bodies
Speaker 1: terry on. You gotta find someone to play that some way, somehow.
Speaker 1: I saw someone coming Rodriguez. I think he's your favorite
Speaker 1: start at the will linebackers spot. If I'm talking linebackers,
Speaker 1: I'm maybe thinking like Trevor Owawski or the Mont Clark,
Speaker 1: you guys that are kind of known for.
Speaker 2: Being a special team or is not on the field.
Speaker 2: Malcolm Rodriguez is making this team for sure. What Watski's
Speaker 2: actually play some snap sets? Sam, Yeah, I think Malcolm
Speaker 2: Rodriguez is in a competition for a starting spot, but
Speaker 2: not a roster spot, yep, because see what he does
Speaker 2: on special teams is important and what you know, the
Speaker 2: versatility like full back, he you know, I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: not expecting him to play a bunch of snaps at
Speaker 2: full back, but if he doesn't win that starting spot,
Speaker 2: that's somewhere you can put him. And he looked pretty good.
Speaker 2: But he was playing there. So we're talking about protecting golf,
Speaker 2: talking about not having good pass blocking running backs. Throw
Speaker 2: Malcolm back there in a pass set, he'll pick up
Speaker 2: a blitz. Play some full back for show.
Speaker 5: What do you guys attribute that step back we saw
Speaker 5: from the special special teams last year?
Speaker 2: What do you attribute that to? Was it having Grant
Speaker 2: Steward return kicks? I mean that was one two, But
Speaker 2: I think Dave Fipp was just fucking around last year.
Speaker 1: Honestly, Chris, that's a great question though, because we were
Speaker 1: uncuriously uncharacteristically like not, yeah, Jack Bates wasn't good.
Speaker 2: Your return game wasn't good.
Speaker 1: That's a great question because I don't necessarily have the
Speaker 1: answer to that one.
Speaker 2: Not the Jalen. Maybe it's it's the new kickoff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they were still gonna adjusted too. I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a good question. Jailing reason. Maybe
Speaker 2: was it all pro and.
Speaker 1: We were the ones that proposed the fucking kickoff rule? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we wanted this.
Speaker 5: I think it's probably been If I had to guess,
Speaker 5: it would probably be like the slow drip of like
Speaker 5: talent loss on special teams. Like I I just feel
Speaker 5: like a couple of years ago, I'd have to look
Speaker 5: at the rosters side by side, but I feel like
Speaker 5: the special teams unit was better a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. I mean, glad, I'm sorry, I was
Speaker 2: your kid. When you pay all these guys contracts, you
Speaker 2: can't afford to pay special team players anything, So it's
Speaker 2: gonna be just you know, cast asides.
Speaker 1: I will say, And they'll utilize your stars too. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know now the Jack paid, but Jack was
Speaker 1: playing special teams too. Demon of special teams.
Speaker 2: Do you imagine that guy coming down the field that.
Speaker 1: I kickoff terrifying by the way, I just sa found
Speaker 1: this star earlier today. Previously on the old kickoff rules
Speaker 1: is like twenty nine percent teams returning kicks turn them
Speaker 1: into touchdowns offensively.
Speaker 2: Now if you.
Speaker 1: Get moved up, it's a little bit more of those
Speaker 1: fair catches. It's like jump to forty percent. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: over ten percent jumping. There's new kickoff rules here to stay.
Speaker 1: They want points on the board, they want fantasy, they
Speaker 1: want gamble, and they want numbers. This is my opinion
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 2: No, I agree, I like the new kickoff rules something I.
Speaker 7: Like it too.
Speaker 2: I'm I just can't wait for teams to get.
Speaker 1: More creative with it, like get a little ballsy, you know,
Speaker 1: like a little little handoffs or some ship back there.
Speaker 2: So he used to be freaky and he has to
Speaker 2: do that. In high school, we'd have the diamond in
Speaker 2: the back with the four guys returning where he catch
Speaker 2: the ball and yeah, yeah that one is fakely they
Speaker 2: caught either way, it would work. Sometimes we got a
Speaker 2: couple of touchdowns. See, anytime they take their eyes off stash,
Speaker 2: you get him the ball touchas stud. Oh dude, he was.
Speaker 2: He led the state in yards for like four weeks
Speaker 2: to start to start to start his junior year. No way. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was as fast as fuck and he was the
Speaker 2: I think he was the h back in the wing tea,
Speaker 2: so you'd get all the this reverse Diskevitch.
Speaker 1: Diskevitch doesn't look like that at all though, no shot
Speaker 1: the stash. He is a prince in Poland. He actually
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Speaker 2: but we have for raising banners when we get back.
Speaker 2: We have our wide Receiver duo rankings maybe pulling yes, Poland.
Speaker 2: We have some preseason rankings from Fox. I think it
Speaker 2: is some crazy I could be wrong. I was wrong
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Speaker 1: I put the poll in the chat a little bit late.
Speaker 1: Get your votes in. All right, we got the wide
Speaker 1: Receiver ranking Wide Receiver duo rankings. I should say we
Speaker 1: got around the league with rookie Dom and he got
Speaker 1: Fox NFL and Fox NFL power rankings. They're way too
Speaker 1: early preseason power rankings. Why personally feel like the story
Speaker 1: lines are respected? Yes, only four votes, though, what are
Speaker 1: we doing?
Speaker 7: Chat?
Speaker 1: I don't see you guys driving seven votes around the
Speaker 1: league seeing?
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, guys, let's get your phones while you're driving.
Speaker 4: Being grown ups, you know.
Speaker 1: Don't don't do that.
Speaker 2: God damn it, Lucas, what the fuck is that ship? Bro?
Speaker 2: What fucking Lucas. The picture you just sent in the
Speaker 2: group chat is disgusting ball sick um.
Speaker 1: Uh Demon Clark will start new Anzos is Jay Roth
Speaker 1: three went three.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's Damon or Damon, but uh,
Speaker 1: non special teamer put it to you like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: non special teamer. We compete.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a battle. Yeah. I mean he's got
Speaker 2: the opportunity to win the spot. He does, He truly does.
Speaker 2: Like they actually mean that shit when they say they
Speaker 2: want competition, when they want battles. Everybody has an opportunity
Speaker 2: to win that spot. Do you think he's better than
Speaker 2: Malcolm Rodriguez? I don't.
Speaker 1: Uh, I listen, I'm not don't. I don't use this
Speaker 1: site all right. I'm gonna go to it for reference.
Speaker 1: Was trying to see if he played will linebacker. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to see right now. Like went to PFF.
Speaker 1: He had a thirty overall grade.
Speaker 2: I think Malcolm Rodriguez right now is the best coverage
Speaker 2: linebacker on your team. He ranked zero.
Speaker 1: Eighty eight linebackers zero zero.
Speaker 2: That's what it has. Zero thh.
Speaker 1: Not great, but well, listen, I'll do more homework. I
Speaker 1: just I've never dove deep on him because've always seen
Speaker 1: as a special teamer. That was the read up I
Speaker 1: did on him, and I just never I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: go watch tape on special teams.
Speaker 2: It's not not for me. No, that's I'm glad you
Speaker 2: don't do that. That's you'd have a problem if you
Speaker 2: do it, or your Dave Fip which again Dave Phip
Speaker 2: jobs on the line, jobs not on the line, but yes,
Speaker 2: that's year your he was in your ass for a
Speaker 2: long time, like fucking Grant Steward returning kicks. Who the
Speaker 2: fuck thought that was a good idea? Do we miss
Speaker 2: him in this linebacker room? By the way, he was
Speaker 2: supposed to be like a landso two point zero two
Speaker 2: point oh because the anel was leaving light skinns like
Speaker 2: like improved career special teams. Yeah, you know, Taylor Reeves
Speaker 2: mayben same kind of thing, like great special teams guys
Speaker 2: to have they pop up to make a couple of
Speaker 2: plays here and there and spelling somebody for an injury arrest.
Speaker 2: Sure they can't, but are they a starter?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 2: What's the pole saying right now?
Speaker 5: It is saying around the league by landslide around the
Speaker 5: league is up about ten percent.
Speaker 1: All right, dom.
Speaker 2: Shot kid, don't fucking blow it.
Speaker 6: Don't blow I might blow it. I might blow it.
Speaker 6: I'm feeling it. I think all those boats are my family.
Speaker 6: They're all tapped in. Shout out, all right, yeah, shout
Speaker 6: out to the fans.
Speaker 4: Don't make a fool of your family name.
Speaker 2: I don't ruin your family name.
Speaker 6: Everybody in chat was talking about I saw them talking
Speaker 6: about MSU women. Then I went to ASU women. Then
Speaker 6: I went to ASU parties. So I'm here to break
Speaker 6: some hearts. ASU parties are not like they were ten
Speaker 6: fifteen years ago. Tempe is dead now. I tell people this,
Speaker 6: I blow their minds. Don't go to a party at ASU.
Speaker 6: It gets shut down in thirty seconds. Don't go to
Speaker 6: the butt ASU. It will get raided. You'll get two
Speaker 6: hundred and seventy mips like they gave out in one night.
Speaker 6: I'm not saying I've ever been there, done these things,
Speaker 6: participated in these things. Yes, good, good Good does not
Speaker 6: support underage drinking, underage substance abuse, any.
Speaker 2: Of that unless you want to be really cool.
Speaker 6: Yeah no, I'm really cool.
Speaker 9: I don't want to approval.
Speaker 2: Maybe the chat I forgot to take you. The last
Speaker 2: time we brought it up to the chat, they said
Speaker 2: you just didn't get invited. Yeah, oh that is what Okay,
Speaker 2: Well they were talking shit. I mean maybe I feel
Speaker 2: like you're a personal guy. Personally guy, you got connections
Speaker 2: to the football team, you definitely get invites.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you definitely get Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean I've been to a couple. Maybe I'm too
Speaker 6: cool for them. Maybe I just don't go see, I
Speaker 6: don't know.
Speaker 2: MSU parties are pretty.
Speaker 6: MSU parties are way better. I'm there every Halloween, Halloween, Halloween.
Speaker 1: I think Michigan will allow it because we know we
Speaker 1: got the winner, right, Yeah, we need this.
Speaker 6: Well, even Halloween, I'm freezing. I had to walk from
Speaker 6: Grand River to Hubbard and if you know ms u's campus,
Speaker 6: I'm talking like over by, like all the area. Yeah,
Speaker 6: all the way back to Hubbard.
Speaker 2: I used to live on Gunson and would have to
Speaker 2: walk to the comm Arts side building, which is the
Speaker 2: complete opposite corner of campus every day walk.
Speaker 6: So I was there last week doing Snyder Phillips the
Speaker 6: Commardes every day shout out. Farm Lane is closed, so
Speaker 6: arm Lane walks on, Yeah, walks on arm Leant all right.
Speaker 2: I used to work in the cafter.
Speaker 4: Shot shot shot spencer, shout out.
Speaker 2: Probably did.
Speaker 6: It, Probably happened, all right, anyway, going take us the league?
Speaker 2: Yeah, out of here.
Speaker 6: Jalen Carter Philadelphia Eagles. Jordan Davis got his Now Jalen
Speaker 6: Carter just got four years, one hundred and fifty two mil.
Speaker 6: Highest paid defensive tackle of all time. Fellas, how are
Speaker 6: you feeling? How does this feel for the NFC? I mean,
Speaker 6: this is already a lethal defensive line. Now you've just
Speaker 6: paid Jalen Carter. There were a lot of trade talks
Speaker 6: with them. We knew the Lions weren't gonna get them.
Speaker 6: But how we're feeling about that?
Speaker 2: I don't think it makes any difference of what the
Speaker 2: Eagles are gonna do or continue to do with how
Speaker 2: they build their team and compete for Super Bowls. I
Speaker 2: think they can pay guys like this and they can
Speaker 2: still get great players because of how Howie Roseman operates,
Speaker 2: because of the amount of money their owners have to
Speaker 2: throw around, and because they're not afraid to take chances
Speaker 2: and get a little freaky with the cap. So like
Speaker 2: he deserved the contract. He is one of the best
Speaker 2: defensive tackles in the league. But I don't think it's
Speaker 2: gonna like. I know people are like, oh, Eagles are
Speaker 2: cook now they're paying one guy more than they did,
Speaker 2: Like they've had contracts like this on their cap this
Speaker 2: whole time. It does not hamper the way they do business.
Speaker 1: From six million guarantees, av has twenty six million a
Speaker 1: year guaranteed for the big man. And they said it before.
Speaker 1: He's one of the better defensive tackles the National Football League.
Speaker 1: You don't necessarily need sex in the defensive tackle position.
Speaker 1: Just get in the back disrupted cause chaos we saw
Speaker 1: firsthand and we played them. Now that he's in here
Speaker 1: for the long haul, Jordan Davis there for the long haul,
Speaker 1: we gotta be fucked into your offensive line. Tate Rask
Speaker 1: a great addition, I think with the work on the
Speaker 1: left side, because I don't know if hobby is necessarily
Speaker 1: the long term answer yet.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree. I mean he had what eleven games
Speaker 6: last season and then I think had five TFLs, three sacks,
Speaker 6: two passes defended. Yeah, as a de tackle, I think
Speaker 6: it blocked a field goals.
Speaker 2: Any spitting back Prescott's face, Yeah, everyone was. I respected it.
Speaker 6: I don't mean thug in like a bad way, not
Speaker 6: a native compensation. I mean like he's gangsterangst.
Speaker 2: Yeah's I took it to it was like he's a pussy.
Speaker 2: If someone spitch in your face, you're the pussy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you gotta see. Yeah, Yeah, he's challenging you. You got
Speaker 2: something about you gotta fight him immediately.
Speaker 6: But are you fighting Jalen Carter.
Speaker 2: No, that's why it's not a pussy. If he spits
Speaker 2: in my face, I am. I'll probably get my answer. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're losing. You're losing for sure. You gotta stick him.
Speaker 2: That's what he's that's what he's doing. The prescott. You're
Speaker 2: such a puss you're not gonna do ething, and your
Speaker 2: team won't do nothing either. A bunch of pussies.
Speaker 4: That's our part, is the team.
Speaker 2: Sorry for your family listening. No that okay, all right,
Speaker 2: shout out.
Speaker 6: We're classy white trash.
Speaker 4: But we said I will hell yeah, brother, I will say.
Speaker 5: Though this kind of does Obviously I expected I expected
Speaker 5: him to go absolutely nowhere. But it does kind of
Speaker 5: suck because I flashed back to that game where the
Speaker 5: defensive line specifically, like, yeah, dude, we figured out every
Speaker 5: single time Jared Goff is going to throw the ball,
Speaker 5: we just deflected every single time.
Speaker 4: I was like, that's not good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 4: That line is not going anywhere, So that sucks.
Speaker 2: You had it pretty good. Those Georgia boys stick together. Man,
Speaker 2: what else we got down?
Speaker 7: All right?
Speaker 6: Up next, speaking of Georgia boys, we got some driving
Speaker 6: under the influence Amanda ted End's coach, Ben Steele is
Speaker 6: now fired. It seems like a lot of coaches are
Speaker 6: getting away with a lot of things. A lot of
Speaker 6: players are getting away with a lot of crimes. Apparently
Speaker 6: driving drunk is where they The line commanders fired him.
Speaker 6: Now here's a pull. Wes Welker is taking over duties.
Speaker 6: Is the commander's head?
Speaker 2: Wow, Wes Welker, Yeah, no way, it's a tight End coach. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: I mean you got the receiving part down. Listen. The
Speaker 2: thing with Ben Steele, it's simplitarian.
Speaker 1: All was like, based on principle, we can't tell you
Speaker 1: to tell these players be accountable, don't do this, don't
Speaker 1: do that. We're doing the same shit. They had to
Speaker 1: fire him based on principal we back in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Probably same reason why my man's the head coach until
Speaker 1: Kyle Shannon gets back in uh with the forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: and he was caught doing coke on the job he had.
Speaker 1: Benston will be back in the NFL. Fortunately not Unfortunately
Speaker 1: it's not with the Commanders.
Speaker 2: He will absolutely be back in the NFL the commanders.
Speaker 1: You mber that story that came up about Jim Bob
Speaker 1: Cooter when he was here a by climbing in some
Speaker 1: girls window.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's fucking crazy, crazy Jimbob Cooter.
Speaker 2: But yeah he climbed in some women's window. Ye, kind
Speaker 2: of drunk creeper. Yeah, and higher in the NFL. He's
Speaker 2: gonna get his job back for sure. Washington is under
Speaker 2: the microscope for a lot of reasons. So that's probably
Speaker 2: why they had to, you know, ak them. We got
Speaker 2: nipped that in the bud before he starts dropping the
Speaker 2: f N bomb or saying he hates gay people or
Speaker 2: whatever he's gonna you know, result from that. So they
Speaker 2: cut ties. Now. Yeah, he'll get another job pretty soon.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm pulling up the Jim Bob stuff.
Speaker 1: No please, uh, do you have anything on been still
Speaker 1: getting fired by the commanders.
Speaker 6: Not necessarily, I mean d w I s A d
Speaker 6: w I. I think more people have them than you'd expect.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Romo just got on. What else are you
Speaker 6: gonna do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, outside of drinking and driving, there's nothing to do
Speaker 2: with nothing nonsense.
Speaker 1: States, stay getting these back former backup quarterbacks or sorry,
Speaker 1: not back up a quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: Caught up, Mark Sanchez.
Speaker 4: Remember my friend out there? Remember when my friend Ben
Speaker 4: went out there and I went to and I went
Speaker 4: to visit. Were talking about they had they had six
Speaker 4: out of the top ten cities in the country with dyes.
Speaker 2: That Wisconsin for you. All they do, weren't they?
Speaker 1: Number two behind us is a cocaine capital.
Speaker 6: Probably Travers City is the cocaine capital. Yeah, the entire country,
Speaker 6: is it?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Shot city, dude, Yeah, that's awesome. In July two thousand
Speaker 2: and nine, while working for the Indianapolis coach, he was.
Speaker 1: In the NFL when this has happened, Cud was charged
Speaker 1: with aggravated burgley in Knoxville after a woman said he
Speaker 1: climbed through an apartment window and got into bed with her.
Speaker 1: Police found him in the women's bed, and there was
Speaker 1: no indication in the report the two knew each other.
Speaker 1: Crew reportedly climbed to the window, stripped down to his underwear,
Speaker 1: then got into bed. He was released on a ten
Speaker 1: thousand dollars bond, only a ten thousand dollars bond for.
Speaker 2: Doing that shit. Who hasn't been there?
Speaker 7: You know me?
Speaker 2: That happened to me one time after walked into my
Speaker 2: house and got into my bed. That happened to me
Speaker 2: before two. I literally got up, put the blanket over,
Speaker 2: slept on the couch.
Speaker 6: Am I doing something wrong?
Speaker 7: Then?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Where the random women in my bed?
Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. You're married.
Speaker 6: I the wife might be watching.
Speaker 2: Got me?
Speaker 1: Uh after math. He'd also been arrested in two thousand
Speaker 1: and six for d u y.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, he had some obviously. Dude gets way
Speaker 2: too fun. We still hired him as office quarter. I'm
Speaker 2: surprised that one of our friends hasn't found himself crawling
Speaker 2: into a random person's better than it's happening. It's definitely happened.
Speaker 2: Happened Chriss last weekend. Nothing nothing, We ain't talking about it.
Speaker 2: The stranger who woke up on your couch?
Speaker 6: Save us, Save us all right? Taking a shift. Louke
Speaker 6: Keiley all time panther, He's now the lead color guy
Speaker 6: for netflik.
Speaker 2: Whoa gotta be colored? Was a matter of color audio
Speaker 2: can't these days?
Speaker 6: You gotta be got to be the color guy.
Speaker 2: Look, yo, what's up?
Speaker 6: Well Greg Goldsen was doing it.
Speaker 2: I'd be crazy. Yeah, we did that with our with
Speaker 2: another intern and he got really flustered about it. You
Speaker 2: handled it much better than he.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he asked me nervous that maybe he did feel
Speaker 1: type of I love it.
Speaker 2: I love it. Luke Keikley is one of my favorite
Speaker 2: players ever. I think he's probably the most underappreciated linebacker
Speaker 2: of all time. Uh, guys, superman like he's fucking Luke
Speaker 2: Keyekley is such a dog. Saved his brain, so good
Speaker 2: for him. You know, got out early and yeah he's
Speaker 2: gonna he's it's gonna be great. He's he's got a
Speaker 2: good personality too, so clearly has the pass. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've seen interviews with Keikley and he just breaks
Speaker 6: down the game. He's like one of those people that
Speaker 6: you just rarely see, like very high football like you
Speaker 6: and I feel like you got it. He was a
Speaker 6: mic right yeah, yeah, I mean as an all time
Speaker 6: Mike linebacker and he was only in the League, what
Speaker 6: five six years that I really remember.
Speaker 2: He had a very short Yeah, he had a short career.
Speaker 2: He is beautiful.
Speaker 1: I do it to the way he does it so
Speaker 1: like orchestrated and like it just it just hypes me
Speaker 1: up for football.
Speaker 2: It's just it's that love of the game he speaks
Speaker 2: with every time.
Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to that one yet hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah fuck yeah, yes he did. Those defenses were so
Speaker 2: fucking fun to watch him and Thomas Davis, Josh Norman,
Speaker 2: Julius Peppers.
Speaker 1: Oh, Julius Peppers a fucking demon his whole career. How
Speaker 1: crazy man basketball player and he's washed up and went
Speaker 1: to the Packers.
Speaker 2: Basketball player and then finished number two all time in
Speaker 2: forced fumbles in the in the NFL. Wow, guess who
Speaker 2: number one is? You'll never I guarantee you'll never say
Speaker 2: the question over time. No number who leads the NFL
Speaker 2: all time in forced fumbles? Peter Tillman. Nope, that's a
Speaker 2: good guess, though, he's a defensive lineman. No mm Dwight
Speaker 2: Freey Nope. Close. All that was that was close, same team,
Speaker 2: same team. Roger mathis Robert Robert mathis all time NFL
Speaker 2: forced fumble leader, that's.
Speaker 1: I remember they always practice tackling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy.
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Speaker 1: power rankings coming from one Fox reporter?
Speaker 2: Like the Chris want to put them on the screen.
Speaker 2: I am perplexed because last year I was wrong. A
Speaker 2: lot of people are, I know, specifically Conkle heard had
Speaker 2: the Seahawks up in there. Raven three, Okay, I think
Speaker 2: that's that's That's how I felt too. That's kind of crazy,
Speaker 2: kind of crazy. They didn't get max c they did it,
Speaker 2: but they did get Henderson. They did draft uh they
Speaker 2: did Henderson. Yeah, I forgot about that. They got they
Speaker 2: got they got some names that man forgot about. They
Speaker 2: also got the Zayre Young. I believe his name was
Speaker 2: the other defensive tackle that people thought we were gonna get.
Speaker 1: Instead of uhion Youion Young, thank you, instead of more
Speaker 1: ye like, they got some I mean, but no Jim Harpy.
Speaker 1: I mean they got jesse Mint jesse mentor so the
Speaker 1: defense can return. I do have a question about Justin
Speaker 1: Montabouque though, because that's a neck injury they never fully
Speaker 1: returned from. That sounds a pretty serious injury for a
Speaker 1: defensive lineman have.
Speaker 2: I think three is a little high for all the
Speaker 2: question marks that the Ravens have. I do think, you know,
Speaker 2: I think jesse Mincher is going to be a good
Speaker 2: very good coach, but we don't know yet. You don't
Speaker 2: know yet. You can't make just assumptions, even though I
Speaker 2: do think he's going to be a very good defensive coach. Obviously,
Speaker 2: I forgot. They signed Trey Hendrickson. Yep, but another year
Speaker 2: of Derrick Henry aging is Lamar Jackson going to be
Speaker 2: able to stay healthy. They still don't have a receiving corps.
Speaker 2: They lost Isaiah Likely, who was probably there, you know,
Speaker 2: thank you, one of their best pass catchers. For sure.
Speaker 2: The offense has a lot of the defense will be great.
Speaker 1: Mark Gags want a clear down trend. Yeah, Isaiah Likely
Speaker 1: was like this, and then they got rid of them,
Speaker 1: and you already have limited pass catches to begin with.
Speaker 1: The one that you have is somewhat productive. Ze Flowers
Speaker 1: just coughs up the ball now and then for god
Speaker 1: knows why. And he's kind of tiny too, Like I'll
Speaker 1: respect the speedzers, I really do. I think someone could
Speaker 1: be special Tyreek Hill specifically, but like that body frame,
Speaker 1: like if you're not smart, I don't know that those
Speaker 1: guys could last long careers or even like the seasons.
Speaker 1: In some cases, guys like say Flowers, Yeah, number three
Speaker 1: is kind of high for me. Don What about you?
Speaker 6: You know, Ravens. I haven't really done a lot of
Speaker 6: research into him. I haven't really heard much about him
Speaker 6: since Crosby he got denied the trade there. But I
Speaker 6: mean picking up Hendrickson, I would say is a pretty
Speaker 6: one to one replacement. I think when you look at
Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson's progression, you know there is some concern there.
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of people are very gimmicky
Speaker 6: when they talk about him. They think he could only run,
Speaker 6: he could sling it. Yeah, he is a very pure
Speaker 6: gun slinger. But I think the duo of Henry and
Speaker 6: Lamar just didn't work as well as people thought. I
Speaker 6: thought that would be unbreakable. But when you don't have
Speaker 6: the right receiving cores around them, I mean I've only
Speaker 6: really seen the offense. I just I don't think it works.
Speaker 6: It's not a top five team in the NFL.
Speaker 2: I think Lamar Jackson went healthy, is no doubt a
Speaker 2: top three quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 1: People say he does can't throw. It's like how to
Speaker 1: identify a non ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was the best. Uh, he was more fishing
Speaker 2: than golf. He was the best quarterback passing from the
Speaker 2: pocket two years ago, like in the entirely more fishing
Speaker 2: than golf, more fishing than mahomes, more efficient than borrow,
Speaker 2: like any of those guys. He was the best quarterback
Speaker 2: when passing inside the pocket in the NFL, and he's
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, like you know what he brings when he
Speaker 2: gets outside the pocket. Health is the thing, though, like
Speaker 2: can he stay healthy? Can he withstand the workload that
Speaker 2: he is going to have to carry in that offense?
Speaker 2: Because I know I've said this for the past five years,
Speaker 2: but like Derrick Henry is gonna slow down eventually, know
Speaker 2: me too, It's crazy twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: I'm like Dereck Henry get ready, Yeah, I know, wrong, No, wrong.
Speaker 2: Derek King Henry for a reason.
Speaker 4: That guy.
Speaker 2: I mean, he showed some signs last young lie. We
Speaker 2: did him, We pumped him.
Speaker 1: I remember I was talking, shit, we will hold him
Speaker 1: to fifty yards and everyone was like fuck you. And
Speaker 1: then it looked bad in the first quarter.
Speaker 2: And shut it, shut it down and shot.
Speaker 5: So are we just focused on the Ravens or like,
Speaker 5: can we kind of no poker ro I thought, I
Speaker 5: think the Ravens is creazy.
Speaker 1: I throw it up again Ralph Viachano, so is the
Speaker 1: name uh hopefully not swimming with the fishes and for
Speaker 1: criticizing this list, but uh ohai Paison.
Speaker 5: One of the things that I saw to me, obviously
Speaker 5: relating that to us here is like, I just don't
Speaker 5: see the argument that Kansas City is a better.
Speaker 2: Team, that Patrick Mahomes is healthy.
Speaker 1: Apparently they did beat our ass last year, and they
Speaker 1: did beat our they did dick underwear and they pulled
Speaker 1: it over our head. Yeah, I can't lie.
Speaker 2: I think the Lions, it's a pretty fair spot to
Speaker 2: put them on. They have to, you know, I would
Speaker 2: put them a little bit higher, but not maybe switch
Speaker 2: them with the forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: I think Jacksonville lost some pieces unless Travis Hunt takes
Speaker 1: a big jump the Bengals what what Like I get it?
Speaker 2: No, I don't get it.
Speaker 1: That Also, we hype them up every single year. Nothing's
Speaker 1: really changed with them, but same coach, same group of guys.
Speaker 1: They even in healthy years, they've been like just there.
Speaker 6: Yeah two years ago its Chase Brown and who's the
Speaker 6: head Zach Taylor. Zach Taylor produces mediocrity every year. Burrow,
Speaker 6: I mean, I love Joe Burt, I really do. I
Speaker 6: love Joe Burrow, but all he has is that three
Speaker 6: sixty video of him in the snow throwing the football,
Speaker 6: and that's the hype every year, and then he always
Speaker 6: gets hurt by week five and then they're crawling to
Speaker 6: eight and nine by week seventeen.
Speaker 1: Every single year they have. They have no right to
Speaker 1: be number ten over the Detroit Lions, in my opinion.
Speaker 4: I agree with that.
Speaker 5: And then also right there at number nine, the Houston Texans.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm just higher on them than no.
Speaker 5: They gotta but they gotta go. I think they gotta
Speaker 5: go up.
Speaker 1: Jack's gotta go down. They got a tremend they got
Speaker 1: a tough ass schedule this year.
Speaker 2: Texans at nine, Yeah, the Texans should be like, for sure,
Speaker 2: over the Bears. Over the Bears, for sure, I would
Speaker 2: say probably.
Speaker 1: Over the put Over the Bills. That's another team. I'm yeah,
Speaker 1: Bills tanking of mine. I'm a Josh Allen Stains Bills.
Speaker 4: I'm on yeah, I'm I'm watch with it.
Speaker 5: I feel like you just no matter what, would Josh Allen,
Speaker 5: you get to like eight, nine, maybe even ten wins.
Speaker 5: But like if I'm actually talking like pound for pound,
Speaker 5: these are the teams that have the best chance at
Speaker 5: winning the title. I'm still I'm putting the Bills like
Speaker 5: tenth or like eleven, because I just we've seen it
Speaker 5: so many times and you're telling me that this new
Speaker 5: coach is gonna like change.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 7: So.
Speaker 1: You fired your defensive mind as head coach who kind
Speaker 1: of held you in games because you didn't really have
Speaker 1: much around Josh Allo than James Cook recently with James Cook, which.
Speaker 2: Remid his year for him last year. And then you
Speaker 2: get kept the same offensive cordon. Like, what did you
Speaker 2: really change other than getting worse on defense for the Bills.
Speaker 2: That's j Moorey added, but like it was he twenty nine. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and we seen him quot on plays for the Chicago
Speaker 2: Bear for sure. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just this this rankings preseason rankings.
Speaker 2: Prince talking about the Bengals adding Dexter Lawrence, Jonathan Allen
Speaker 2: Boy and Mafe to their defense, which losing Trey Hendrickson.
Speaker 2: Adding those three guys, I would say it's a net post.
Speaker 1: I would take those three over Henderson.
Speaker 2: But again, health is important.
Speaker 1: That's a great point. I thought about the ex Lawrence
Speaker 1: stuff as well.
Speaker 2: But again, I don't believe in Zach Taylor. I don't
Speaker 2: I think he's I think he's a Burrow and Chase Merchant.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be mad at it. Like I think I
Speaker 2: think is the is the is the coordinator in offensive
Speaker 2: mind that people think Zach Taylor is. I could be biased.
Speaker 2: I think I'm just find a way to put the
Speaker 2: Lions in the top ten. I don't think you can.
Speaker 4: I don't think they're ten.
Speaker 2: I think they're I think they're like twelve or something like.
Speaker 4: I just would have them.
Speaker 5: I would have them over the Chiefs that just pound
Speaker 5: for pounder like the roster better, like the roster better
Speaker 5: than the forty Niners pound for pounding the Chargers is fair.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just so like, you know, do something for
Speaker 1: me Herbert. But the Eagles also the defense on down
Speaker 1: trim too. Yeah, offensively, they just yeah lost AJ Brown.
Speaker 5: They could end and I mean real, he showed real
Speaker 5: like you know last year and regression. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 5: better way of putting it. I think that I think
Speaker 5: that the Lions can end up easily in the top
Speaker 5: ten throughout this throughout the season looking like that.
Speaker 4: But Denver.
Speaker 5: I wasn't even mad at too, because I mean they
Speaker 5: were you know, if bon Nicks was if bo Nicks
Speaker 5: was healthy, I mean I'm not the boat next and Wattle, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That team is that team is just on paper is
Speaker 2: really Yeah, their defense is insane. Put some respect on
Speaker 2: the Seahawks. They just want to super of Christ six.
Speaker 2: We lost was K nine.
Speaker 4: That's that's kind of that's kind of a big loss.
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Speaker 2: You're building a whole combat sports enterprise in the heart
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Speaker 14: I think with opportunity, right, Like you said, maybe you
Speaker 14: like to punch people in the face for real, and
Speaker 14: you know you want to be a boxer, and you
Speaker 14: have an option there. Maybe you don't like get punched
Speaker 14: in the face and you want to make you know,
Speaker 14: you like the theatricals and the storylines, and you have
Speaker 14: an avenue here. Maybe you start at one and then
Speaker 14: want to change to the other. I don't care.
Speaker 2: I just want to in the building and know that
Speaker 2: you have some place to go to explore that.
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Speaker 2: Mail Bag. We got a intern on the mic. It's
Speaker 2: time to grill chat. He goes to ASU, he's happily married.
Speaker 1: Tell us some more interesting things about you.
Speaker 2: Tom.
Speaker 6: I'm left handed besides shooting at basketball because I still
Speaker 6: shoot with two hants. Still working on that. If anybody
Speaker 6: wants to teach me a jump or please and thank you,
Speaker 6: or golf or just any athletic endeavors. I feel like
Speaker 6: I'm lacking in uh and everything.
Speaker 2: What'd you play in high school football? What position?
Speaker 6: What'd you call it? Aspect that.
Speaker 16: I was?
Speaker 6: Let's see, I played three. My mom didn't let me
Speaker 6: play tackle growing up. I played flag until like fifth
Speaker 6: grade and then high school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't play tackle growing up either.
Speaker 1: I didn't play we didn't have It's kind of over
Speaker 1: poor well.
Speaker 6: Now, my brain is kind of just you know, function,
Speaker 6: So sometimes I mean enough to give me an a
Speaker 6: SU ninety acceptance right there you go, there you go,
Speaker 6: ninety percent. Everybody could go to SU. I know my
Speaker 6: friend he was we called him ten percenters. People that
Speaker 6: don't make it, like like re try to get in.
Speaker 1: So he had what's acceptance ate at ms.
Speaker 6: U, like seventy five something like that. Wow, so it's
Speaker 6: still high.
Speaker 2: But that's why ASU is hot.
Speaker 6: Girls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's the mail bags from Steve O Baby Spencer.
Speaker 2: What's your best college football tailgate experience? Well, I got
Speaker 2: a good one, you know, probably Michigan Michigan State on Halloween.
Speaker 2: Uh we did lose, but I was at my uncle
Speaker 2: row Wells tailgate and I just got fuck. It was crazy.
Speaker 2: We were drinking Woodford. It was a great time. It
Speaker 2: was college game day, Michigan State versus Ohio State. My
Speaker 2: boy played for the baseball team and so we were there.
Speaker 2: There was a legendary guy in this town and his
Speaker 2: son also went to Michigan State.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys connect some dots there and a
Speaker 1: couple of Ohio State guys got in the baseball house
Speaker 1: and like changed the song and our guy was pretty
Speaker 1: fucked up, pretty hammered, grabbed a.
Speaker 2: Bat and went to a tackle. Almost I don't want
Speaker 2: to say the right It got fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: Damn he got nuts at the Baseball House of MSU.
Speaker 1: But everyone survived, got broken up. That was probably my
Speaker 1: biggest tailgate story. Also got too fucked up. Maybe make
Speaker 1: it to the game.
Speaker 2: Shout out that happens a lot, that happens. That's what
Speaker 2: a good tail gate is. Yeah, yeah, that way too fun.
Speaker 2: Mail bag from I'm salty. If we don't see a
Speaker 2: playoff team by week six, do you want to rank
Speaker 2: for a tank, for a quarterback or being mediocre? God,
Speaker 2: We're gonna be a playoff team.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be a playoffs like sure, God will anything
Speaker 1: other than like the obvious stuff I'm knocking on WOODI
Speaker 1: or too like losing an important player.
Speaker 2: There's no excuse for this team.
Speaker 1: To not make the playoffs.
Speaker 2: I mean this schedule.
Speaker 1: I think Warren Sharp has put it out there. He
Speaker 1: ranks he's every single year the lines of the easiest schedule.
Speaker 2: Guys. We put the Jets, the Dolphins, the Cardinals. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm the easy bad teams with no quarterbacks. No quarterback
Speaker 2: at all. You should have losen not one of those
Speaker 2: fucking teams. This is gonna be a playoff team. Mail
Speaker 2: bag from chef. How many training camp practices or the
Speaker 2: heavy is going to We're going on the tenth for sure.
Speaker 2: I think that's the only one we got confirmed.
Speaker 1: So is that with Mike with us?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, So if you got tickets, we'll take them.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm you've got tickets. Hit hit up your
Speaker 2: boys intern.
Speaker 1: Who's your current red Wing and former red Wing?
Speaker 2: It's from the Wave fan?
Speaker 6: Oh, I mean I grew up not a crazy hockey guy.
Speaker 6: I would say det Z Yuke because I caught him
Speaker 6: towards the end of his career and he was just
Speaker 6: always a demon. Current it was Patty Kane. Now he's gone.
Speaker 6: I liked him for a few years he was here,
Speaker 6: and I've been kind of tapped out of hockey lately, unfortunately,
Speaker 6: but trying to get back into it. The girlfriend's dad
Speaker 6: is a huge hockey fan, so I'm trying to impress him.
Speaker 6: But he's a Phillies fan or not a Flyers fan.
Speaker 6: That's gonna be difficult.
Speaker 2: That is difficult.
Speaker 6: My first Red Wings game was in the Joe against
Speaker 6: the Flyers. I hate the Flyers just because I remember
Speaker 6: that first ye Flyers.
Speaker 2: Fuck the Flyers.
Speaker 6: Fuck the Flyers.
Speaker 1: Male bag. Why would anyone voluntarily live in.
Speaker 2: The desert because prostitution is legal? Is it really Vegas?
Speaker 6: I think I think we're talking about Phoenix.
Speaker 2: He means Phoenix, desert or temper.
Speaker 4: It sucks.
Speaker 6: I don't know why I lived. I mean, the Walter
Speaker 6: Crownkite School is great. It's what got me this internship
Speaker 6: kind of shout out. But besides that, there's a whole
Speaker 6: lot of lot of nothing.
Speaker 1: Burning issue says, give up two lions elite offensive players
Speaker 1: for one from a different team, and two elite defensive
Speaker 1: players for one from a different team. Who you're taking
Speaker 1: and giving away?
Speaker 2: Why do we gotta give up two for one? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. I don't think we have I
Speaker 2: don't think you can afford to give up to elite
Speaker 2: defensive players. I think you've only got two healthy ones
Speaker 2: right now offensively Jame Owen Laporta for.
Speaker 1: Who's the other simone guy in the Eagles, Jordan, Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe him.
Speaker 2: I'm not giving up anybody. Christan Wurs, I'm not giving
Speaker 2: up anybody on our offense. I think we're gonna have
Speaker 2: the best offense in the NFL. I'm just playing the game.
Speaker 2: He's asked the questions defensively, Alan, that's not He's not
Speaker 2: elite though. Yeah, you only we have two elite defensive
Speaker 2: players healthy, right?
Speaker 5: Would you give up both your elite safeties in return
Speaker 5: for someone you know is one hundred percent healthy elite safety?
Speaker 16: No?
Speaker 2: Oh, kirbying Branch for Kyle Hamilton. I thought about that too.
Speaker 6: I was thinking, no, Branch, how old is Hamilton now though?
Speaker 2: Twenty six?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Young?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if alienka if you're if just
Speaker 1: crediting Lee, I was just saying Leam and Jack Ford,
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2: I don't think Leam's elite though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't have much elite on our defense doesn't
Speaker 1: have a lot of elite.
Speaker 2: Jack Gating a branch Kirby when if you can go
Speaker 2: the Kirby sad man it is.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think he's like losing his mind on Twitter too.
Speaker 2: I think too.
Speaker 6: I think he's just having fun, like, I mean, there's
Speaker 6: there's ways to go about it. I think he's trying
Speaker 6: to be like a Kevin Durant have fun on Twitter,
Speaker 6: you know, mess with the crowd a little bit. But
Speaker 6: I think it's rubbing a lot of Detroit fans the
Speaker 6: wrong way. And I think it's uh. He's saying, like
Speaker 6: people who are complaining about the Lions and their situation,
Speaker 6: he's taking that as a oh, you could be a
Speaker 6: fan elsewhere, and I've seen him say that on Twitter,
Speaker 6: and I think that's just one way to lose ticket sales.
Speaker 2: He's trying to be somewhere rapper in his next career,
Speaker 2: so he's trying to hype up the song he's trying
Speaker 2: to get.
Speaker 6: Well, he keeps on putting it as a YouTube leak.
Speaker 6: He goes on information on Yeah, and then it's a
Speaker 6: YouTube link to his music and it's like knock off
Speaker 6: Sada Baby.
Speaker 2: And he's trying to Uh. He's trying to get the
Speaker 2: fans on his side by attacking anybody that says he
Speaker 2: might not play, which is not a good side.
Speaker 1: Mail bag, When should we expect Josh Allen to start
Speaker 1: winning Super Bowls?
Speaker 2: When he puts on the Honolulu Blue Baby, let's go
Speaker 2: hell yeah bring them home? Brother, Well that'll do it
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