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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to the Daredevil Born

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Again Reviews series. I am the tooth fairy dressed now

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and I'm joined bye.

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Speaker 2: I am the turn your flash off Kirkle, Patzer'm Dolmus.

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Speaker 3: I'm the amusing Taylor Field.

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Speaker 1: Well, there you go. That's that's something there for you.

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Did you watch you right episode? Sir?

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Speaker 4: I skipped last weeks and just went straight to this one.

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Of course, I.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait for her to come back. Yes, ladies, Jim,

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we're here to talk about the penultimate episode of Daredevil

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Born Again. Next week is the finale. Uh so it

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should be a good time after that and Or starts up,

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So Me, Taylor and h Kirkle will be back for

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the next four You guys are ready next four Tuesdays?

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Ready for those three hour Star Wars blocks?

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Speaker 3: Are we doing midnights? We're back, you broke, I've been

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gone for over a week. Coming some slack. I don't

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remember how changes in a week.

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Speaker 5: Big change.

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Speaker 1: That is like the third time he has asked me

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this about and or Ander releases at six pm, just

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like Daredevil.

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Speaker 6: It sounds sarcastic, though, I will say from Taylor's.

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Speaker 4: Because of what they're like hour long episodes right, yes,

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by the time like nine, so we're gonna do it

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like ten or eleven.

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Speaker 3: Might as well just do midnight at this point, it's

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great content.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna start watching.

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Speaker 1: Either way if you like, and or we will be

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reviewing it at one way or another. That's why it's

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midnight the next day, who knows. Apparently it's up for

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the debate, but we will be back. And then also

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we have a good time here? We're about to find

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out And I'm gonna throw a Taylor Field who was

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missing last week. So, Taylor, what were your thoughts on

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last week? Quickly, you know, a couple of senses? And

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then what were your thoughts on this second to last episode? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Last week I was sorry.

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Speaker 6: Did he just say second in the last instead of penultimate?

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Is this a new drag?

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Speaker 1: So I don't want to I don't want to spam

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Speaker 6: I missed the first Sorry, Taylor.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, so last week it wasn't great.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't feeling the hotness from from that episode. So

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I like, I think that there are definitely some moments

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that were okay, but overall it just was kind of lackluster.

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Speaker 3: Was not is not doing it for me?

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Speaker 4: And so I'm very very relieved that this episode was

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uh something that was setting up an awesome finale and

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just could you say it was maybe rushed at times, yeah,

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because they touched point on certain things, mainly just with

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one character, and I feel like, okay, things really expedite

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in this character's arec But I was totally all for it.

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Speaker 3: It happened that?

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Speaker 4: Then we get just the way they use they filmed

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you out of everything else that's going on. It puts

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a minute, and I really really I like it. I

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and think, oh my god, like, okay, this is the

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plan that everyone has, Like you know, this person's got

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a plan, this person's got a plan, and it's just

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this whole narrative moving forward. But it's like, Okay, none

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of these plans matter because all of a sudden we're

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Speaker 3: So I think that's great.

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think I'm really enjoying it.

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Speaker 3: I think it's fantastic. It's great.

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Speaker 4: But again, it's not devoid of them having trouble throughout

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all these past episodes. So I'm hoping that, you know,

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from what we got in this episode, as much as

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in the finale and then you know we're okay, we're

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doing good. But I have questions based on what the

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certain revelations were in this episode. I got some questions,

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so questions need answering.

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Speaker 1: But you just arrived, mister mass I'll see you're a

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little down on last week? Are you even more down?

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You still same level? You up? Where? Where are you

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on the mountain? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: It was the last three episodes has been a big

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dip in quality for me. But yeah, this this just

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a top tier kind of episode for the season for me.

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these last two episodes were part of like the reshoot

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era of the show. So I don't know if that's

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think I was just like super engaged by everything that

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of my questions last week was like, okay, with Muse

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two episodes? And the solution to that was like bring

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flopping people back and forth. There's just one sequence in

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great acting, good action, just really really good tension, especially

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like the final sequence, like I didn't know what the

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heck was going on and I was just loving every

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then I just had like a flashback saying that. So yeah,

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for the most part, I really really enjoyed this episode.

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just had me shaking my head, but overall, I would

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Speaker 6: A solid shaking head banging or shaking.

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sha shaking is like bad. Yeah, No, shaking's bad negative.

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the vast majority of it, I think this is a

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really really solid episode. There's a lot of just a

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good converging of rivers into just like one big like

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final sequence, just having a lot of pieces. I think

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on the same playing field, you might say that it

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doesn't feel that big yet maybe in season two, but no,

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just some things were going on with our bb Uric

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character and I was just really really digging what was

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just just for like hoping what was going to potentially

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be happening with that character. I like that we're going

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in that direction. So yeah, overall, I think this was

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really really positive. Yeah, I think I'll just leave it

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there for spoilers.

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to be done, and then.

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Speaker 5: I know I had, you know, meet the word in

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the essays.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those are my thoughts.

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Speaker 1: That's minster mister hymns thoughts. No, best episode of the series,

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what the Frank and Matt conversation was that to me

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was a top or like comic book Marvel thing, but

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overall that was always my favorite episode. This eclipsed it.

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I think it just I'm excited to get into spoilers

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because it's not a complete, good analogy. But I feel

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like I like majority of these episodes. I think there's

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a lot of episodes that they vary, right, There's some

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much give them a passing. Maybe there's one or two

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that were close to a fail or did fail, But

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it does feel like with this episode you could maybe

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skip a lot of episodes. It feels very It's funny

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because the three episodes that were the complete all done

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was episode one and then eight to nine. There's portions

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of this that feel like you can watch episode one

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and just skip all the way to eight. Not exactly,

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of course, right, but there's just things where now they

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don't feel like filler, but they don't feel as important

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as we were kind of hoping. And I think it

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just definitely shows of like these people started the season

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and then they're gonna book end the season go right

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in the season two. So it definitely feels more like that.

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but I feel like if you are a big fan

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obviously not Kirklin Taylor, but if you're a big fan

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of Daredevil's season three, this is like, this is hidden

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some stuff that has been hanging for a while. I

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don't know if Micha will be happy, but I remember

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Mike being like, oh, they've better answer this, Like there's

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certain things that maybe an answer, but they go back

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to me like, oh, we're finally getting some payoffs where

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it feels like it's way more tied in. And again,

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Benson Moorehead who directed, I think they did Loki season

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two something a Moonnight, and then now they're doing Daredevil

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season two in these the overhaul episodes, So I trust

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them in this sense and that's good. But it definitely

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feels like they have attached themselves to that season three

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more so than the rest of the show had. And

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I very much appreciate that. Loved a sequence with a

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character that I know we're gonna talk about. I loved

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everything about that. Just this Yeah, I can't say more.

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Just the unpredictability levels in this episode were fantastic. Multiple

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reveals that paid off. I still think there's some men writing,

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particularly with Heaver. Heather not an acting thing, but man,

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they do not know how to write this character. There's

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multiple things that I brought that they just they feel

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like they're trying to actively make you dislike this character

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and not want this character around, which is not a

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good thing if it's unless it's the villain, right, And

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she's just saying things to either get Matt rowled up

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or because the plot needs say these things. None of

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them really makes sense. So still not a perfect episode,

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but I think it sets us up for a really

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good finale, and now if the finale can hit, if

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the finale is this quality, my excitement for season two

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all season two. So already this felt like a major

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felt like a major improvement from many of the episodes

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we got here, and it left me just dying to

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see what happens next week. You know, many episodes, I

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feel like there's been half a half where we're go, okay, cool,

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let's daar douvil. But this week I was like, Okay,

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find out what's gonna happen right now, and I'm curious

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where we're gonna end up. So that's an on spot

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thoughts anything else to say before we jump the barrier?

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They jumped the bear once going twice. Sold to the

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man in the white suit. We're gonna take our first

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ad break and then we'll be right back talking all

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spoilers and we are back, so you know again we're

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in spoilers, So runaway if you want, but we gotta

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start with you know, Kirkland patters favorite man. Hello, Kirklan,

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it's nice to see you again.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna have one.

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Speaker 1: Oh I had to upload a bull's Eye is back, baby,

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And it's funny because I knew we'd seen We talked

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about this last week where we saw shots of him

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in the prison, but I thought either that would just

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dovetail something or that could be like, oh, that's gonna

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set him up for season two, right, like maybe that's

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an end credit or an end episode to be like, oh,

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he's he's out there and look out for Point Dexter.

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But the fact that he got out, and that's what

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I didn't want to say. The nonsports. He just brings.

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And I'm not sure if Kirkhan will agree with this

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because you disliked the character for multiple things. But at

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least I when this character is introjected in the show,

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there's just a level of chaos around him that you

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never know what's gonna happen. And yeah, maybe it's some

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very rambunctious, over the top things he's doing and getting

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at situations and throwing, but like even the two thing, yeah,

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that's that's pretty fucking crazy. That's ripped right out of

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comic books. The only difference is in the comic books

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he that has cost you on but that's ripped right

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out of the pages. So just the getting out and

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even his scene with Matt was to me also home

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run there. So I'm so glad Bullseye is back, and

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luckily what they did episode one, I'm gonna feel like

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we can't kill him. So even next week, if like

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Punisher fucking just unloads a whole clip on him, I

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feel like point Decks will stick around. So I don't

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want him to be coma toast or in prison, same

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thing as Fisk, Like, I hope this means now Bullseyes

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he's gonna be out there for a bit like just

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cause and havoc. But I loved everything with this character. Yeah.

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I loved everything with bulls Eye of this episode.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, super fun, super fun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I I I like bits and pieces of it. I

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feel like the whole escape it, the specifics of it. Yeah,

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I was just I was just rolling asks. It's like, yeah,

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of course, like as soon as I saw his bloody

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smile and like what he's doing in his mouth and like,

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funck off here, he's gonna be doing some ridiculous bullseye

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magic and it and it worked, and you know, like

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I I I do appreciate the overall just I think

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threat of him, like on pursuit, like just a guy

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that has a name bot, he's never gonna miss. Like

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if he's after you, you know, and he's not in prison,

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that's that's that's dangerous. So I like the intensity of that.

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I think I had an issue with just how quick

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it was of him just like being like in handcuffs

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and then he's just like at.

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Speaker 5: At the mayor. The mayor Mayor's what the hell is

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it even called mayor? Yea, Yeah, there you.

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Speaker 2: Go as a tongue twister for me, but yeah, I

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think it just it seemed really fast for it to

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just get to that moment. I did really appreciate just

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like like Taylor shouted this out in the spoiler free section,

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but just.

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Speaker 5: Like the camera work that they had around.

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Speaker 2: Him, like when he was getting ready to do the shot,

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it was very I mean, it's probably comic book. He

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just the way that it like narrows in. For me,

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it reminded me of just anime and it was just

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really really badass. The music tied to it, just like

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uh yeah, whatever like song they had going on. I

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was really really pulled into that sequence. I will agree,

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the him and Matt back and forth, I really really

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dug that because I felt like the first time and

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this is kind of like a thing overall for this

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episode I've noticed just from Matt being so much more

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like aggressive in this episode, and in that scene in particular,

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like he you know, shut the fuck up, like he's

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just dropping fos dude, and like like he has no

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time to really just play around with him, Like it

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just seems like he doesn't want to be in the

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same room littone have to converse with him. So I

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did like the intensity of that and yeah, just when

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he smashes his head in.

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Speaker 5: It's like Officer, he smashed his own head in, and.

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Speaker 1: Then it's insane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, So I did those moments. Uh, So I

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will have to admit. Overall, this was a pretty positive

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Bulls Eye episode for me, even though the character, Yeah,

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it's uh, they executed it well, so I tip my

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hat to them.

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Speaker 1: It's that bulls I show, you know.

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, I don't know if I want that as all.

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Speaker 1: I want a special like what punishers get. I'd take

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like what is he up to for an.

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Speaker 6: Hour, especially where there's just like a kill count like

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on screen the whole time and that number just keeps

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going up and up. I think he's a really fun

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character to me because there's like, obviously he's very intimidating,

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he's very intense villain just in terms of like his

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power level and like you know, as like a per

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he doesn't have like much personality, like he's really just

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like grimacing all the time and doing like a dark,

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dark smile and all that. Then I feel like there's

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like an air of like a slightly cheesy factor to

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him with like the power set that you're talking about. Kirkland,

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just like it is a little over the top, Like

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especially you know, within the Greater MCU it's totally normal,

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but within the Daredevil show, something about it seems like

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a bit cheesy, and so like when he yeah, when

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he does the tooth thing, I don't know, I like

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chuckle a little bit, even though he's like terrifying at

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the same time, And like that shot when he's like

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going up the elevator and he's hold like a fucking

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fork and it's just dark and he's just like slowly

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moving up, Like I was just chuckling in the best

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way possible.

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Speaker 5: But at the same time, I'm like, I don't know

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what the hell he's gonna do.

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Speaker 6: This guy is so unpredictable, and so the fact that

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it's like hitting these very two specific tones that I

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think is really really fun. Uh So, yeah, I I

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liked that scene. I'm curious, like because in the in

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the scene when when Matt visits him at the prison

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they're having that conversation, he had a he had a

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line where he was like, good men defend their worst enemies,

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which seemed like a like is that a quote from Daredevil?

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Like did he say that at some point, is that

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like a callback to some other old show.

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Speaker 1: Or that something either biblical or something to do with law.

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Like I'm wondering if that's like something you might have

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to do. Maybe I'll search up the quote, but nothing

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that I could hear from like old Dardo big Oh

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that makes it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, in that scene, it just it stood out as

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like a really weird quote to me. It's like, is

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that a thing? Is that like a known thing? Is

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that like a saying? Like it didn't sound familiar and

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it also didn't make any sense to me, So I

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was very weirded out by that line. But then you know,

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obviously comes like full circle moment at the end good

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men defend their worst enemies where he takes a bullet

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for Fisk at the end, so like it connects at

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the end, and it was cool in that way, but

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it was kind of a strange thing in the moment.

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It really stood out to be like odd thing for

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him to say. But also he is an odd guy,

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so I don't know, maybe it was just him trying

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his best to like get him to defend him and

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get him out of there, but yeah, like the whole

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and yeah, like that the fact that like this all

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happens because he smashes his face into there that takes

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some of the infirmary and has the tooth out, and

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that's like the reason he breaks out, and that's why

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he's able to shoot mad at the end. Like it

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just I don't know. All these kind of consequences that

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Matt couldn't have seen, I think are really really fun

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and obviously he's the one who took the bullet for

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it in the end. So yeah, I loved everything with

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bulls Eye. Ten out of ten for that character here.

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Speaker 1: Day that I heard you type in did you come

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out with something?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So people thought that it was Winston Churchill, but

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it's not. Apparently it's a guy named Victor Hugo.

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Speaker 3: The phrase good men save their enemies.

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Speaker 4: It's a paraphrase of his statement from one of his essays,

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but not an exact quotes.

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Speaker 6: We all know Bullseye's favorite writer.

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Speaker 1: He loves right Victor what was his name?

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Speaker 3: Eighteen forty five? Victor Hugo, Victor Timely?

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Speaker 1: Oh he will yeah, yeah he Bullseye. You didn't see

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them in season three he was reading all that Victor.

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I love him. You know, Hey, what do you think

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about bullseye.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: He Like I said earlier in the non spoilers, the

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scenes with this character when it it trips out and

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just goes psychedelic, and it just pulls you out of

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the moment, like, holy shit, okay, like everyone has their

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own plan. Fisk is pulling, pulling people's legs, and you

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got Matt's getting pissed off in the area, He's dropping

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on everyone, just going crazy, and then it just it

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pulls you out of it because it's like, Okay, here

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he is this guy staying with a gun, and you think, okay,

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he's gonna get shanked.

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Speaker 3: But then the corner of your.

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Speaker 4: Eye down below you see the guy with the fork

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in his neck. You're like, oh, he's already in position.

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Holy fuck, Like this is just crazy.

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Speaker 3: So I really appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: I think everything with him was just crazy and like

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the the uh, the tear was thrown through the roof

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from what I feel like what we've had before, Like

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there's definitely weird, insane levels of him before. Probably my

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most favorite one is when he's in the He's in

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he's in the car and I then season three and

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I can't remember what he actually says because I've just

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rewritten the me in my head where he's like, that's

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agent Maddie. He's one of the good ones and he's

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got his girlfriend's head. But he doesn't actually say Maddie.

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But I just don't remember the name he actually says.

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I just think like on top like that. And then

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this now where he's just like spits a tooth out

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of his mouth. And obviously this surgeon and this cop

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they probably hear the stories, but they don't know the extent.

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They probably think maybe it's bullshit, it's just rumors. But you,

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as a or, you've seen everything Bullseyes done, and so

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when you see him smiling with that tooth, you're thinking, fuck,

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it's game over. And why they took the cuffs or

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the like the things the gauntlets off his hands, I

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don't know, because that would have saved their lives if

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they just kept his little like, uh, the gauntlets on him.

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Speaker 1: But he did the tooth.

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Speaker 4: He did, he took the tooth. The tooth managed to

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hurt the guard but not kill him. And then what

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really killed both.

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Speaker 3: Of them was the scissors. That was the thing.

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Speaker 4: So they should have kept his hands stealed, but for

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whatever reason, it is what it is. But I honestly

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think that it was it was Daredevil that helped give

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him that leeway because smack on the head loosen the

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tooth and so he was able to just like crunch

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down and bite that sucker out of there and then

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just then shoot, h was it one of the canines.

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I have to go back and see which tooth you

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guys know, was it a wisdom?

477
00:20:47,319 --> 00:20:49,400
Speaker 1: I thought it was one of the front ones actually,

478
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:50,240
or actually I don't know what.

479
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 6: Vampire.

480
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you could see because they probably don't want

481
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,400
to see Gi that out every fucking episode going forward, so.

482
00:20:59,599 --> 00:21:01,039
Speaker 5: Just fucking big gap.

483
00:21:02,519 --> 00:21:07,839
Speaker 1: He might look a little googly and then darl. But

484
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,599
then also remember he has he's super powered now too,

485
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,039
so that like someone might be like, oh, you know,

486
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,920
just a tooth to the eye, like that should be fine,

487
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,839
but he's he's been like super soldier too, like teeth

488
00:21:19,079 --> 00:21:23,359
power through them. So yeah, he got out, and I'm

489
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,920
trying to think, so, yeah, he got out of there.

490
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,319
Uh that's what they talked about with Matt where I

491
00:21:29,559 --> 00:21:31,839
first second they go back to Josies, which I was

492
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,839
very confused, but I guess she's trying to reopen the bar,

493
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,799
but he's like just standing out there and Doria SOPs

494
00:21:36,799 --> 00:21:38,440
and shows like you want to drink? I was like

495
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,440
what I was like, is she a ghost? Like what's

496
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,720
going on here? But then one Matt's fucking just pound

497
00:21:44,759 --> 00:21:46,599
the shots back. So I love that because that means

498
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,480
between finale and season two, we're gonna get a fucked

499
00:21:49,519 --> 00:21:51,440
up Matt Murdock, Like he is not gonna be in

500
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,640
good shape. He's pounding these bag whatsoever. And then they

501
00:21:54,799 --> 00:21:57,240
revealed that you know, last time opened his balls for

502
00:21:57,319 --> 00:21:59,359
Foggy and mad and he's like, no, like Mad he

503
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,799
fucking made agent Maddie. Matt's like no, like he would

504
00:22:02,839 --> 00:22:04,200
never do that. He only does that when he wins

505
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,960
the case. At this moment, I thought the Foggy was

506
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,000
a live crowd was gonna have their moment because when

507
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,519
they're doing the PUDDING'M like, oh, Foggy's gonna be like,

508
00:22:12,559 --> 00:22:14,880
did he smell some alcohol somewhere something? I don't know,

509
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,079
but they put together that. No, as of right now,

510
00:22:17,319 --> 00:22:19,519
Foggy is still alive. But as of right now, they

511
00:22:19,559 --> 00:22:22,079
he put together that. Okay, Foggy was gonna win the case.

512
00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:25,039
He got word, so he's celebrating and then that's why

513
00:22:25,079 --> 00:22:27,160
he was taken out, and that's where he thinks it's Fisk.

514
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,720
And that's where again it refers back to Matt made

515
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,000
a deal with Kingpin in season three where kay, I

516
00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:35,720
won't go after Vanessa if you don't go after Caring

517
00:22:35,759 --> 00:22:38,119
and Foggy. So for Math, this is a big revelation

518
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,839
of fuck man. Like even beginning the episode, like Fist

519
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,680
said no, like I stayed true to my word. I

520
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,440
didn't do this stuff. So he's thinking the worst. Also

521
00:22:45,559 --> 00:22:49,200
Tubby Winsy Bowl, Bullseye, the dancing. We'll get to Heather

522
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,480
because I problems about Heather that shows up to the

523
00:22:52,519 --> 00:22:56,640
ball man is he wired? And that was uncomfortable watching.

524
00:22:56,759 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 3: Like he just did a line or something.

525
00:23:00,319 --> 00:23:02,279
Speaker 1: He's like like al Pacino and heat right now, and

526
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,519
he's just like moving around. He's just like ready for

527
00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:06,519
a fight. He's ready just to go, like clock the

528
00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:08,720
fucking mayri for it. She's like, oh, we shouldn't talk

529
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,039
to him, Well, let's go talk to him. And he's like,

530
00:23:10,079 --> 00:23:12,079
oh my god, like he is on hand right now.

531
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,319
They dance. I fucking love when he overhears them talking

532
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,960
and he like, you know, pretends the button like, oh

533
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,119
can I have this dance and push his fits aside

534
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,559
to get to Vanessa and they do that talk, and man,

535
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,240
that was the reveal because I don't know how much

536
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,359
we talked about if I think we didn't beginning of

537
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,480
episode one, but because Bullseye was kind of gone, we

538
00:23:30,519 --> 00:23:32,359
didn't really dive much into it. Is the fact of

539
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,720
why did he do this? Okay, Bullseye's crazy, he just

540
00:23:34,759 --> 00:23:37,559
wants revenge on these people, right, But no, it was Vanessa,

541
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,200
which kind of fits because in season three at the end,

542
00:23:40,279 --> 00:23:43,559
Vanessa started doing hits using Bullseyes, so it's not like

543
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,400
she had not used him before. Obviously he had tried

544
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,680
to kill her, so there's some tension there. But you know,

545
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,359
bygones be bygones. But yeah, Levil, you know right he said, yeah,

546
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,880
you were sending me, right, defending send me or whatever.

547
00:23:56,079 --> 00:23:58,319
But yeah, it was revealed that no, it was not Fisk,

548
00:23:58,519 --> 00:24:01,880
it was Vanessa who killed to have a Foggy Karen.

549
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,839
Obviously care made up, but Foggy and Karen almost killed

550
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,640
or killed. And yeah, to me, I absolutely loved that.

551
00:24:09,759 --> 00:24:11,559
I thought was great. I thought tracks with stuff that

552
00:24:11,559 --> 00:24:14,000
happened in season three, I thought track with all this

553
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,920
hinting and pantomime, that all of Vanessa was really big

554
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,119
shit when you were going everything like that and makes

555
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,839
sense like she made it. That's a big move to

556
00:24:20,839 --> 00:24:22,839
take out these people, especially like I don't know if

557
00:24:22,839 --> 00:24:25,680
she knew about that deal Fisk made with Daredevil, but

558
00:24:26,079 --> 00:24:28,200
just even stuff too. And she's danced with Man. She

559
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,319
refers to being Daredevil and she like pulls on his

560
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:35,119
tie like man. That whole sequence and Fisk and Heather

561
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,519
are dancing this weird way where they're side by something

562
00:24:37,519 --> 00:24:38,160
like movie.

563
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 5: He's like snapping, Oh, I love that.

564
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: When they're talking, MAT's like he's a monster, and.

565
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,079
Speaker 2: They go, I was thinking of a gift. I'm like,

566
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,359
I gotta make that into a gift.

567
00:24:48,599 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: She was the happiest birthday boy on the world. But no,

568
00:24:52,079 --> 00:24:55,880
I loved everything about the reveal, the pacing, the ballroom,

569
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,480
it was just ta like just no notes for that

570
00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:02,920
poor sh and just fantastic tension building. And yeah, I

571
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,839
really liked that Vanessa was the one that made the call.

572
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,200
And now it's kind of like Fisk is kind of

573
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,319
like fucked, like he's gonna stand by Vanessa, but like

574
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,839
he didn't break the deal, but they kind of broke.

575
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,400
I don't know, it's it's a black and white area.

576
00:25:14,519 --> 00:25:16,960
And then I'll see Matt saved them, which I was

577
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,599
very confused about as well, obviously, like Dylani you brought up,

578
00:25:20,599 --> 00:25:22,160
and then we kind of talked about like once I thought,

579
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,680
Okay saves his enemy. There's some symbol symbolism there. But

580
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,799
at first I thought he was trying to save Heather.

581
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,559
But the way they shot it was very odd, and

582
00:25:30,599 --> 00:25:32,640
I actually thought me and Emily thought that was gonna

583
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,039
happen that when Bulls I was perched up, all the

584
00:25:36,039 --> 00:25:38,799
couple's backs were them, and we thought because Fisk was

585
00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:41,680
was Heather, he was gonna shoot Heather thinking that was

586
00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:44,240
Vanessa and that would have been like a big like

587
00:25:44,279 --> 00:25:45,160
oh my god, mom.

588
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 6: But no, I thought he was gonna kill Vanessa thinking

589
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,599
that it was Heather, and he was trying to get

590
00:25:50,599 --> 00:25:52,039
revenge on that in that moment.

591
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so we had the devil the defference.

592
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 3: But I guess he was just gonna either way.

593
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,599
Speaker 6: I was like, I don't know who the hell he's

594
00:25:57,599 --> 00:26:00,079
gonna shoot, but I can't wait to find out who's.

595
00:25:59,799 --> 00:26:01,599
Speaker 1: Going in for you and I guess he's going for

596
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,480
Fisk and Matt saved his life, which you know, I

597
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,200
get the sentiment, but I don't know. I don't know

598
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,000
if it's worth taking.

599
00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 5: A bull to his heart to stop that bullet.

600
00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, he should have should have aimed for the head,

601
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,839
one higher chance of kill. Also, Matt's not tall enough

602
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,559
to like block that, I don't think, So, you know,

603
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,359
for a guy who has perfect aim, I feel like

604
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,279
the decision making was not great there. But he's probably

605
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,079
wired as well, probably like we didn't see it, but

606
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,839
he had to do a whole steale sequence. He probably

607
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,640
is cracking necks, hiding bodies as he's climbing up that

608
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,559
elevator and getting around there. So yeah, I want to

609
00:26:34,559 --> 00:26:37,240
see that POV at some point. We get that when

610
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,519
we get the Bulls Eye before, when we get the

611
00:26:39,519 --> 00:26:42,359
Bulls Eye Special, we'll like see his perspective on that

612
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,319
whole situation. But yeah, no, I mean the tension of

613
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,839
like all those big reveals happening at the same time

614
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,200
as like this, you know, gun question mark, who's he

615
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,960
gonna kill? Thing? Like just perfect And I mean it's

616
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,240
one of those things too. It's like, man, I really

617
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,440
wanted to see just one more minute of what Matt

618
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,839
was gonna say and how that would have un unfurled

619
00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:04,119
and obviously like Fisk about to reveal to Heather, like

620
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,759
the truth of him and all that. But you know,

621
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:08,559
I think it was perfectly well done the way the

622
00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:10,880
way they did it, just just teasing us there, getting

623
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,480
some of those reveals in Yeah, really really good stuff.

624
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,279
Speaker 4: I'm surprised that there's only one bullet in that gun,

625
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,359
you know, another shot, and I'm pretty sure he could

626
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,279
have hit Kingpin, but to each his zone, I guess he.

627
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 5: Brought the wrong gun.

628
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, he didn't even seem to try or like take

629
00:27:27,839 --> 00:27:30,000
the fork out and like throw that as a backup

630
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,160
dropping too.

631
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just breaks all his teeth. He's just like

632
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:41,599
machines machine gun. It just scopes it get down. There's

633
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,160
just teeth everywhere, Like, what the fuck is going on

634
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,079
in New York? That sounds like a yeah, absolutely teeth

635
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,640
man's Yeah, uh yeah.

636
00:27:50,759 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: I I really like was liking just the tension of

637
00:27:54,519 --> 00:27:56,960
I think everything being revealed and the way that it

638
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,079
was happening. It was a lot all like at once

639
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,200
during like a dance sequence. It just seemed like a

640
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,279
lot in a really really short amount of time. Plus

641
00:28:06,319 --> 00:28:09,759
we're getting like the bullseye just sequences, So for me,

642
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,960
it just seemed a little like all over the place,

643
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,319
a little sporadic, I feel to just digest. But I

644
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,839
also like, I don't know how else you would just

645
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,960
reveal all of that information with the amount of episodes

646
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,119
we have left. So like, the more I think about it,

647
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,720
I feel like it's the best way to kind of

648
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:26,119
handle it.

649
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,799
Speaker 5: But just some of like the.

650
00:28:27,759 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 2: Quick shots between like Matt and Vanessa and they're just

651
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,839
they're just dancing and like like I don't know, just

652
00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:35,119
a couple of things that they're they're like revealing and

653
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,319
then Vanessa's like facial reactions. It just I don't know,

654
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,640
it didn't it wasn't the easiest for me to pilo

655
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,240
it maybe is a way to say it, But overall,

656
00:28:43,319 --> 00:28:46,559
like I liked the reveals themselves, maybe just not the

657
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,480
execution of it so much, But I don't know, I

658
00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:52,160
did appreciate, yeah, just the Fisk dancing.

659
00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 5: Like it was just it was goofy.

660
00:28:53,759 --> 00:28:55,799
Speaker 2: So I feel like it was just a lot all

661
00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:57,880
at once for me to really really appreciate.

662
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: But well, and you gotta remember because you guys, but

663
00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:02,839
the lack of Bullseye a few times, Bolsa wasn't even

664
00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:05,440
in this original show, remember, Like he wasn't even episode one.

665
00:29:05,799 --> 00:29:07,480
He wasn't any of this, Like he's an ad on

666
00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:09,359
after So that's why it's like such like a rush

667
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,799
job all this stuff. Which that's why I'm hoping with

668
00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:14,960
season two that if he's in it, whatever the case is,

669
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,720
this stuff could be spanned out. But you know, again,

670
00:29:18,319 --> 00:29:21,440
like Foggy originally died off screen, it wasn't I'm not

671
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,279
even sure if they said it was Bullseye that did

672
00:29:23,319 --> 00:29:24,880
it in the original show or not. But and same

673
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,599
thing with Vanessa actress, like they reshot and then had

674
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:29,839
to add her in. She wasn't even in that original

675
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,519
show too. So it's just interesting to see how they've

676
00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:37,240
done that. So what do we think is gonna happen

677
00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:40,000
with Matt being shot because obviously lots is going on.

678
00:29:40,359 --> 00:29:43,279
And do they do this in a way where because

679
00:29:43,319 --> 00:29:46,720
he's saved Kingpin, because we've been talking about this where

680
00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:50,079
episode one, Kingpin's like, Hey, I'm glad you're not being Daredevil,

681
00:29:50,079 --> 00:29:51,240
but if you ever do it again, I'm gonna come

682
00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:53,240
after you. Is that like a way for Matt to

683
00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:56,000
get some time bought, like like, well, you saved my life,

684
00:29:56,039 --> 00:29:59,119
so I'm not gonna go after you like right now,

685
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,039
or you get a mully or is he gonna say

686
00:30:01,119 --> 00:30:04,039
I'm not gonna go after you, Like like maybe he's

687
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:05,119
not gonna target you get.

688
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 3: To be five times, yeah, five every.

689
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,319
Speaker 1: Ten years you to go to land. No, but like,

690
00:30:10,599 --> 00:30:11,920
is he gonna say a thing where like, hey, I'm

691
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,039
not gonna go after Matt Murdoch, but if we ever

692
00:30:14,039 --> 00:30:15,559
see you on the streets, we're taking you down. Like

693
00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:18,480
I feel like him saving his life has to play

694
00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:20,640
into it somehow because Fisk is still like a man

695
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,519
of honor, and I do wonder too, Like at this point,

696
00:30:24,599 --> 00:30:27,759
Matt doesn't one hundred percent know that Fisk's back to

697
00:30:27,799 --> 00:30:30,119
doing shady stuff, right, he always has the suspicions, but

698
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,519
like he was busy with Muse and other stuff and

699
00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:36,359
like the White Tiger that none of that's been tied

700
00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:39,039
to Fisk, right, So he doesn't even know at this point.

701
00:30:39,079 --> 00:30:41,079
He just thinks he's saving a maybe.

702
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 6: I mean, the way he talks about Fisk to Heather

703
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,000
is yeah, insinuates that he's still pretty suss of him.

704
00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: But he thought he did the foggy thing. Remember that's

705
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,200
why he was so wild, because he thought he hired Bullseye.

706
00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: So I took like he was he would have basically

707
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,799
let fist dive potentially if he didn't get the revealed

708
00:30:57,799 --> 00:31:00,599
to Vanessa like instantly, It's like all of his direction

709
00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:03,119
just switched, like, oh, Fisk actually wasn't to blame, So

710
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,880
I feel like that switched again. It was like a

711
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,559
pretty quick series of events, so I I don't know

712
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,119
for sure. So by the time that he jumped in

713
00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:12,519
front of the bullet, I was I was scratching my head.

714
00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:14,359
Speaker 5: It just it just seems so strange.

715
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,799
Speaker 2: At first, I thought he was jumping to save Heather,

716
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,079
like it was that said it earlier.

717
00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 5: But yeah, no, I yeah, I was really confused.

718
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: But I I am thinking that is the case because

719
00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:27,400
it seemed like as soon as he got that reveal,

720
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:30,559
it was just holy shit, it was her all along,

721
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:35,160
Like it was like a big, big Vanessa.

722
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,759
Speaker 5: She just ragged all in front of him.

723
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: But what do you think, does he get him all

724
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,480
again from Fisk now? Like it like is gonna feel like.

725
00:31:46,079 --> 00:31:47,799
Speaker 2: It could be tied to like a public image thing

726
00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:49,720
like maybe match just scene is like a hero now

727
00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:53,039
for like actually Matt Murdoch for saving the mayor. I

728
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:55,519
could see him running that direction and he's just kind

729
00:31:55,519 --> 00:31:58,359
of forced to, like, I don't know, basically congratulate him,

730
00:31:58,359 --> 00:31:58,920
give him medal.

731
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,319
Speaker 5: Who knows.

732
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,319
Speaker 2: I do think I do think Kingpin's gonna know right

733
00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:08,799
away that Vanessa was to blame for Foggy and stuff

734
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:10,400
like that. So that's going to be an interesting just

735
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,079
dynamic because because him and Vanessa seemed like they were

736
00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:18,720
recuperating after she did the execution shot our poor Adam

737
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,559
uh whatever his name is, Adam, That is his name, right,

738
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:30,319
Andy and Maddie officer Maddie, one of the good ones. Yeah,

739
00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:32,759
I think the soul brings some tension there, but it

740
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:35,279
also seems like he just, you know, put all those

741
00:32:35,319 --> 00:32:37,200
cards on the table and said, like, no matter what,

742
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,119
I'm gonna be with Vanessa. Like I'm not myself if

743
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:39,920
I'm not with Vanessa.

744
00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:41,079
Speaker 5: So I don't know.

745
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, I find it hard to believe that we're gonna

746
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,359
get any like action scenes from him next week, given

747
00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:49,599
that he just got shot in the chest. I feel

748
00:32:49,599 --> 00:32:51,720
like he'll be tied up in the hospital or something.

749
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,920
So I don't know if that's where like something like

750
00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:56,720
him recruiting Punisher or something like, Dude, I can't do this,

751
00:32:56,759 --> 00:32:59,079
but you got to take this person out or that personnel.

752
00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:01,160
But I also don't know, like I feel like it'd

753
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,759
be pretty rush to just throw Punisher in there, So

754
00:33:04,839 --> 00:33:07,319
I don't know. I'm really uncertain. I also feel like

755
00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:09,119
it would be I don't think this is gonna happen,

756
00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:10,599
but I feel like this would be the perfect cover

757
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,720
of like Matt's in the hospital recovering, and if King

758
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:15,519
Pencil just wants him dead just to get him out

759
00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:17,200
of the way, that would be like the perfect place

760
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,640
to go like kill him and be like, oh, yeah,

761
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,039
I guess the the bullet took his life. You know,

762
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:22,440
it didn't kill him in that moment, but like he

763
00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:25,079
go to the hospital and make something funky happen. You know,

764
00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:27,079
he probably owns all these nurses, like he owns all

765
00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:28,200
the cops and stuff.

766
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: You know, that body with a pillow just like submerged.

767
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,240
The bullet caught him.

768
00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 6: There's a bullet hole in his head as well. Oh

769
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,000
I guess the bullet traveled.

770
00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I guess two things though, because you're right

771
00:33:38,519 --> 00:33:40,440
with him in the hospital, he's exposed. I think there's

772
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,160
two things. One, he saved his life. But also when

773
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,920
I'm trying to think, like I'm hoping Fisk like the character,

774
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,640
I see he is loyal. He made that deal with

775
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,039
Matt right, and even though he didn't break it, he

776
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,079
like his camp, broke it right. Vanessa broke and again

777
00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:57,039
we don't know if she knew the deal, like, hey,

778
00:33:57,279 --> 00:33:59,519
you don't go after Karen Fogg, I won't go after Vanessa.

779
00:33:59,759 --> 00:34:03,039
So she knew that was a deal and hired Bullseye.

780
00:34:03,079 --> 00:34:04,599
I could see if it's not gonna kill her or

781
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:07,480
take her out, but I could see him being like like,

782
00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:09,719
I like just because of Fisk gone, or I can't

783
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,199
kill Matt Murraw because we made an agreement and I

784
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,239
I broke it. I went against my word. He didn't

785
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,639
even though he was daredevil. I do think this is

786
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:21,400
how you get Frank back in commission because my theory was, uh,

787
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:23,000
I think I dropped at some point because we got

788
00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:24,360
late on the season. But I thought, oh, is mac

789
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,880
gonna get arrested or something like that, and that's how

790
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,440
you get punish her. But this is a perfect way

791
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,360
to get Punisher. Matt's tied up in the hospital. I

792
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,559
think you're gonna get Matt back in the suit next week.

793
00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:35,719
I think they might do like a mini time jump,

794
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,440
like a couple of weeks. So he's healed, but he's

795
00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:41,400
like when he's fighting, it still like, oh, like his

796
00:34:41,519 --> 00:34:44,280
shoulder will hurt and people hit him the shoulder over hurt.

797
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,960
But that's why I bet. I bet like in the

798
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,039
first five to ten minutes, we pick up right away,

799
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,119
and then they're gonna jump ahead a couple of weeks

800
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:52,480
because there's no way you don't get a finale of Daredevil.

801
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,960
Well he's not in the suit, and but I do

802
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,880
think that's how Frank he's gonna see that Matt Murray

803
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,079
got shot and he's and because he meant bulls Eye right,

804
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,960
and he like even bulls I went after Karen. He's

805
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,280
not like I think, fucking Frank Castle hates bulls Eye.

806
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,159
So I think if he's gonna hear about these cops,

807
00:35:09,159 --> 00:35:10,800
which we'll talk about a little bit, and then bulls

808
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,800
Eyes out there, Frank is he's shaven, he's kind of

809
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,400
his hair and he's getting in his van and he's

810
00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:18,920
plowing down New York City. I cannot wait for next week.

811
00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:19,599
Oh my god.

812
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean one I think that they could do

813
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,840
given that we know another season's coming, Like they could

814
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,719
do an Infinity War thing where like he is just

815
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,840
out of commission and like the Hero lost or whatever,

816
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,280
you know, and then we like pick up with that

817
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,239
next season. Yeah, but yeah, I don't really know how

818
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,199
they make like a satisfying finale given that we have

819
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,639
a whole nother hour to cover. Uh yeah, I'm curious

820
00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:42,440
to see what they do there.

821
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: Miss Marvel comes in, you know, after all those she

822
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,880
comes into Hell. But yeah, what are you doing?

823
00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: I was gonna add I did laugh when uh Matt's

824
00:35:52,519 --> 00:35:54,360
jumps in front of the bullet and like Fisk is

825
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,840
holding him for like a quick second, and it just

826
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,199
seems like he just like toss to the crown.

827
00:35:59,079 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 5: You cook off me like yeah, my suit, I just

828
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:04,920
I just chuckled.

829
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: It seemed like he abruptly he did not play some

830
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:09,559
of the ground, like he dropped him to the the ground,

831
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,639
he fell the blood And then I'm like, oh, he's

832
00:36:11,679 --> 00:36:15,159
just gonna follow up with the classic fucking Kingpin King

833
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,960
Kong smash Double Fister, but maybe not in front of everyone.

834
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you feeling about Matt being shot the

835
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,039
reveal and what could be happening next week with punishing

836
00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:26,719
or boy here?

837
00:36:27,159 --> 00:36:29,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, well just touch upon the fact, like, uh, miss

838
00:36:29,679 --> 00:36:30,679
Marble coming in there?

839
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,159
Speaker 3: Man at point dexter h versus miss Marble.

840
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: I think it's just can you imagine if that's why

841
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,840
she's on the Endgame or whatever? The Secret Wars cast.

842
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,639
Speaker 5: Is killed by bull he gets hit by it too.

843
00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:46,519
Speaker 1: Not so Marbles, now, are you.

844
00:36:49,199 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 4: Uh, he'd be the this is gonna sound more of it,

845
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,639
but he'd be the kind of guy that would kill

846
00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:53,920
like the whole family too, like.

847
00:36:54,679 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: Where you live?

848
00:36:56,599 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 6: Come back?

849
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 3: Not gonna give me a loan?

850
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,159
Speaker 1: Huh, I'm trying to pay for the suit man.

851
00:37:03,039 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: Oh but yeah, I know.

852
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 4: In regards to hanging shot, I thought that uh, Dex

853
00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:13,960
was gonna shoot missus Fisk shoot Vanessa, And I thought, Okay,

854
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,320
he's gonna say Vanessa ultimately warranting in a like a

855
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,400
Mulligan or some kind of like a past you guys

856
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,639
were already talking about some kind of like oh I

857
00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:24,159
I owe you by Fisk. But either way, this is

858
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,679
Dex just is out to get Fisk. He just fucking

859
00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:30,480
hates the guy at this point because he's just it

860
00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:33,960
makes sense. I mean, yes, Vanessa may have hired him

861
00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:36,280
then said him to do a job. Yeah, yeada YadA,

862
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,840
but ultimately the one who got Julie killed was Fisk,

863
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,639
mister Fisk, and that's the I mean, that's the cherry

864
00:37:42,679 --> 00:37:45,840
on top that was the main thing for for Point Dexter.

865
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, it is what it is. They pretend to

866
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,280
be alive. Remember he was like they had Julie like

867
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,440
texta point Dexter messing with him and.

868
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they were fucking them up.

869
00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:58,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very risky move for like, out of all

870
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,039
I get it because bullseye is is very capable, but

871
00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:03,800
I don't have all the assassins to hire the guy

872
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,760
that almost tried to kill you, which is kind of

873
00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:08,480
a little repetitive. It's funny the last time they did this,

874
00:38:08,639 --> 00:38:11,039
remember it was during Fisk and Vanessa's wedding and Bulls

875
00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:13,079
I showed up and fucked it up. So it's kind

876
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:15,639
of funny that like Fisk's inaugural night is mayor and

877
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,679
he comes up like, you can't do guy, you can't

878
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,280
do anything in public for fis like a celebration or

879
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,079
Point Dexter is gonna be there somewhere with this.

880
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,039
Speaker 6: He needs put in one of those Adam jails, because

881
00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:27,920
those are you can't escape from an Adam jail, and

882
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:28,840
one of those you're done for.

883
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh that I thought, I thought, even like a

884
00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:34,599
t o Am, I'm like, what the fuck is that? Like?

885
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,480
I thought that was like another like what is that

886
00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:40,039
the raft? That's where they need to get him to.

887
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:42,239
They need to get him in the raft. Put them aside,

888
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,280
Harrison Ford. Let's see what they have to talk about,

889
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,079
you know, Harrison Ford, the leader. Who else is fucking there?

890
00:38:48,119 --> 00:38:51,880
Remember Trisha Dylan from uh Jessica Jones, she's there.

891
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 6: Now, Zimo's walking free.

892
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: I think he's jailed up. No, he's jailed up. He's

893
00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:04,360
in Waconda now if I recall, No, he's definitely jail

894
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,880
up because every watch it, I just can't remember which

895
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,400
prison he's in. But no, yeah, he's in Waconda. They

896
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:13,480
took him away, so Sandpoint Dexter to Wakanda and then

897
00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:15,559
he comes back. He is a fucking vibranium.

898
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:16,559
Speaker 5: Soon he's just spinning.

899
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: He's spinning vibranium everywhere. Oh god, yeah, all right, be

900
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,960
freaking deal. Let's take our next ad break and then

901
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,639
we'll be right back. And we are back. Where do

902
00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:28,719
we want to go next?

903
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 6: Gentleman, quick, quick, shout out here. So two characters that

904
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,400
I've really enjoyed in the show, even though they have

905
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,280
very little screen time. Bb Urich, I think she's really

906
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,639
really fun. And then also the police commissioner, who, yeah,

907
00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:41,960
he's only been like two episodes. Maybe I think that's

908
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,760
what his role is. But yeah, like the first time

909
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,360
he popped up is I forget what it was like

910
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,760
that outside it was like a memorial or something like that, right,

911
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,559
and then he kind of kind of threatened Fisk, and

912
00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:53,519
then Fisk later brought him into his office and pretty

913
00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:56,760
much like counter threatened him, and now he is kind

914
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,679
of just under his thumb, even though he's not like

915
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,599
a corrupt cop like the time Force is. But I

916
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,039
really enjoy the conversation between those two characters. Obvious they

917
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,000
like interacted to this point, but just kind of passing

918
00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:11,119
information from each other, also kind of talking in riddles

919
00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:13,519
a little bit until they like felt each other out

920
00:40:13,559 --> 00:40:15,360
a little bit more and then they kind of were Okay,

921
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,519
we can kind of work together here, but also like

922
00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:19,480
we can't blow our cover here, we can't let anyone know.

923
00:40:19,559 --> 00:40:21,280
There's the one guy they keep cutting back to who

924
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:22,559
is like staring at them the whole time.

925
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did nothing that I was like, next week,

926
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,760
I'm worried where he's.

927
00:40:26,599 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 6: Going after the commissioner or something.

928
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a very risky spot, like to talk

929
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,679
in public like that, and with those people watching. I

930
00:40:32,679 --> 00:40:34,480
do think the commissioner could eat it next week.

931
00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:36,639
Speaker 6: It was just weird because like the shots weren't even

932
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,360
like the guy was like looking at them. He was

933
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,000
just like looking around in general. But the way they

934
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,760
cut it is like, well obviously you'd be watching them

935
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,039
and seeing that conversation happen then, I mean just even

936
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:49,199
seeing like bbe like kind of ad me. Okay, like

937
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,159
I'm I'm yes, I am posting these pieces, but also

938
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:54,480
I'm posting these other pieces under another name, and then

939
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,400
like okay, I gotta get back to my cover here,

940
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,679
and she, of course she says it in like a

941
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,679
nicer way that wouldn't blow her cover. So yeah, I

942
00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:02,920
really I've enjoyed those characters throughout, even though they get

943
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,119
little screen time, but it was cool to see them together.

944
00:41:05,519 --> 00:41:07,320
And yeah, I mean, as you mentioned, like the missioner

945
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,559
might be might be six feet under next week, but

946
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,480
if he's not, I think that could be a really

947
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,639
fun dynamic those two working together from like the media

948
00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:17,679
and the police and you know, having good people on those.

949
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: Well, especially next week if she publishes this report, even

950
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,840
if it's under a different name, he's like, oh I

951
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,519
got all files on the crooked cops. They're gonna know

952
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,519
it was him, right. So that's why I just feel

953
00:41:27,559 --> 00:41:30,480
like his time in this world is is not too long.

954
00:41:30,519 --> 00:41:32,519
But yeah, this was I think Bbe's best steps so partly.

955
00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:34,000
She was in it the most and actually had some

956
00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:36,960
big drama stuff and I love all the turns of

957
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:38,760
We talked about this last week where they show the

958
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,360
newspaper shows she completely went with the fifth sides. They're like,

959
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,800
oh man, what's going on there? And then she's like

960
00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:46,840
talking with Daniel, taking drinks and talking about Kinna dance.

961
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,480
This is all before she talks to Commissioner. I'm like,

962
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,760
why would you do this? Like he almost like thread

963
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,280
your life last week, Like I was actively as the

964
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,400
show is going on, I was so worried. I'm like,

965
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,719
oh my, like for Bebe's going down because this feels

966
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,960
like a dumb like character of like, oh, you know,

967
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:02,079
he threaded me, but then in this episode he apologized,

968
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:04,400
so like whatever, he's a cool, powerful guy. But then

969
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,000
I loved in that conversation Commissioner, like all that dropped

970
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,440
and you could see like she doesn't care about any

971
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,199
these people. She knows, she knows fist killed her uncle.

972
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,000
She's completely there, just going like undercover. So it's like,

973
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,880
I'm so invested for I'm gonna assume she makes it

974
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,559
out next week. I feel like this is laying the

975
00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:23,840
bread comes for more. I can't wait for her next around. Yeah,

976
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,000
I can't wait for get more into the group, kind

977
00:42:26,039 --> 00:42:27,519
of like how Yer did or even Caro when she

978
00:42:27,639 --> 00:42:31,679
was a reporter, right, Like, I hope that she interlinks

979
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,239
with Matt and all the other people, and out of

980
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,960
the New Side characters, I like her the most. I

981
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,039
can't remember Matt's lawyer Buddy, and I can't remember the

982
00:42:41,079 --> 00:42:44,880
other cop what's his name, Cherry Cherry, Like they're all fine,

983
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,880
and I don't know if exactly thing or anything, but

984
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,119
Bbe's definitely like if you had to, hey, go only

985
00:42:49,159 --> 00:42:51,280
keep one of these new characters. It's BB all the

986
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,559
way and she's done a great job. So and I

987
00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:56,360
can't wait for her just to fucking use Daniel Moore

988
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,639
because I think that Michael Galadie Galadlfini is being such

989
00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:02,960
a good job being a slime ball like this episode

990
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,840
being that like trying to be charismatic. He got a promotion,

991
00:43:06,039 --> 00:43:07,960
but I think he's doing such a good job as

992
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,079
like a guy you just want to punch, like oh

993
00:43:10,159 --> 00:43:12,199
like a and again last week he did kind of

994
00:43:12,199 --> 00:43:14,239
threaten her and now he's just like calling her his

995
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,320
friend and saying, oh, I got like a little carried away.

996
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,639
It's like, no, dude, you were talking in a very creepy,

997
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,719
like not cool way like that. That's not like an

998
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,559
apology that that's a fucking like what would that be called? Uh?

999
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 4: What is it?

1000
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: You file a report to keep someone away from you? Yeah,

1001
00:43:31,519 --> 00:43:33,039
that's the way he was talking last week of like

1002
00:43:33,079 --> 00:43:35,119
never talked to me again, so when she was talking

1003
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:37,559
to him, but then I was like, okay, perfect, So yeah.

1004
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:38,639
Speaker 6: BB playing the game.

1005
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,559
Speaker 1: Yeah I can't wait to see what happens next with

1006
00:43:40,599 --> 00:43:42,440
Bebe And yeah, I think cops dying next week. That's

1007
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,599
my briction. Because he already gotten the other people's face too,

1008
00:43:44,599 --> 00:43:47,800
and they they fried up that guy's hand for like

1009
00:43:48,039 --> 00:43:50,159
just take. I want to know why he was taking

1010
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,320
photos because he think phones like ran off.

1011
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:54,559
Speaker 3: We didn't get these press's he's media.

1012
00:43:55,159 --> 00:44:01,639
Speaker 2: That wasn't the same guy was it was taking photos,

1013
00:44:02,039 --> 00:44:02,639
I guess, But.

1014
00:44:02,679 --> 00:44:05,119
Speaker 1: Like what I guess for me, it's just like what

1015
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:08,199
was he taking photos of that? Like I don't think

1016
00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:11,079
like Fisk walked down the room, he was alone, He's

1017
00:44:11,079 --> 00:44:13,840
standing there, and something brought that guy, Like I didn't

1018
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,119
think there was anything the farious happening in that moment.

1019
00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:16,519
I don't know.

1020
00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 6: I think I don't know if talking to I would say, yeah,

1021
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,719
this was asking for like a donation, right, and like

1022
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,760
I don't know, maybe that would maybe he was asking

1023
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,639
for like that to be anonymous or something and then

1024
00:44:27,679 --> 00:44:30,239
like that image would put them together and like track

1025
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:31,079
it down. I don't know.

1026
00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:33,159
Speaker 3: I just think that because the cops.

1027
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 4: The cops just said like this is a no camera,

1028
00:44:35,519 --> 00:44:38,039
no photo event, period. So I think Fist just didn't

1029
00:44:38,039 --> 00:44:40,400
want it was supposed to be private, kind of intimate.

1030
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,320
So I think it's just it's as simple as I

1031
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,320
just have an investigative journalist.

1032
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 3: Who was taking photos when he shouldn't.

1033
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 6: Have breaken the rules, right, I only have one journalist

1034
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,440
who is BB who's on the inside. I guess is

1035
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:50,960
their idea.

1036
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, she didn't have a camera, she'd have a camera,

1037
00:44:53,679 --> 00:44:55,840
and she's like with them, right, she put the report

1038
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,639
that they wanted, right, so they probably looked at her

1039
00:44:57,679 --> 00:45:00,360
it's like, oh, we can need their mo she's team Fisk,

1040
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:01,559
she's with us whatever.

1041
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: So or she just didn't have his flash on like

1042
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,039
that fucking guy did in the crowd. We've been there

1043
00:45:08,559 --> 00:45:10,039
backs volume as well.

1044
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,119
Speaker 6: Time it was.

1045
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: But he's never gonna forget the flash now he has

1046
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,639
a half cooked hand, he is always gonna remember flashing.

1047
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:22,199
You know.

1048
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 5: That's a good life lesson.

1049
00:45:23,519 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1050
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,159
Speaker 6: He just might be dead right, yeah that too.

1051
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 5: He's close on the way there. Maybe just get infected

1052
00:45:31,079 --> 00:45:31,760
next week, bulls.

1053
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,159
Speaker 6: I probably just saw him on the way and just

1054
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,320
chucked a tooth at him and took him out back

1055
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:36,360
the enemy.

1056
00:45:36,639 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: He's gonna use his dead body as he's gonna use

1057
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,800
flash phone to blind people. You know.

1058
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 6: He resupplies from his mouth, just takes all his got

1059
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,000
some mouth.

1060
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:51,119
Speaker 5: And mouth people teeth. What was it?

1061
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: Oh?

1062
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Commissioner. I.

1063
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, he his fate is pretty much sealed. I I

1064
00:45:56,679 --> 00:45:58,159
guess it's a good place to kill him is in

1065
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,079
the finale. I really did like that sequence between BB

1066
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,719
and him that I was just like looking, I guess

1067
00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:11,199
misguidedly in a positive future where him and BB can

1068
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,559
kind of just like compare notes, and I don't know,

1069
00:46:13,679 --> 00:46:17,760
just it reminded me of like the Ben Yurick dynamic. Ben,

1070
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,199
like either Karen or just just other characters that have

1071
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:26,239
worked together just crack down on Fisk in his nefarious ways.

1072
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,599
But yeah, I didn't think he was gonna die as

1073
00:46:30,639 --> 00:46:32,559
early as next week. But I also kind of forgot

1074
00:46:32,599 --> 00:46:34,360
how close we are to the end already. This is

1075
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:39,079
the penultimate, So yeah, I think it's over for you. Yeah,

1076
00:46:39,079 --> 00:46:41,480
and I think it'll come before BB really gets a

1077
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,679
lot of good information out of him, Like maybe maybe

1078
00:46:43,679 --> 00:46:46,360
he'll be able to point in a direction like to

1079
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,360
lead us into season two, so that jumping into season

1080
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:50,880
two we can kind of pick up on what she's

1081
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,360
been digging up. But I think it'll be uh, yeah,

1082
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,079
she'll be bummed.

1083
00:46:55,079 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 5: But he dies too quick.

1084
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm torn of that, because you're right, we've seen

1085
00:46:58,119 --> 00:47:00,239
that happen before where someone's just about like eight in

1086
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,039
the dem right in season three, like just about to

1087
00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:04,079
blow the bit whistle on everything, and then Fists takes

1088
00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:07,000
them out right. So that's the thing where it's yeah,

1089
00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:08,559
it's a tough which I guess the deep he is

1090
00:47:08,599 --> 00:47:11,239
Smarty record something, so maybe this guy will record something too.

1091
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,559
But yeah, I could see it going either way of

1092
00:47:13,639 --> 00:47:16,039
him sending the emails and then them taking that as

1093
00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:17,679
like that's why we have to kill him or him

1094
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,800
like about hits and Wi Fi drops and then they

1095
00:47:21,079 --> 00:47:23,960
grab him, you know, kill him from that subway shop

1096
00:47:24,039 --> 00:47:26,480
or whatever FISC was eating with that gross sandwich, so

1097
00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:30,079
you know. And plus I feel like next season the

1098
00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:33,480
anti task Force is gonna be even stronger. So it

1099
00:47:33,519 --> 00:47:34,880
kind of makes sense that you have maybe one of

1100
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,400
these guys, like a captain that might try to stop

1101
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:38,960
them or try to speak against them. But now that

1102
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,559
he's dead, they'll probably just replace him with someone super shady. Now,

1103
00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:43,920
you know, someone that's completely just loyal to Fist. Like

1104
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,920
I bet the guy that cop I never remember his name,

1105
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,519
that Matt's had all the issues with, he was the

1106
00:47:48,559 --> 00:47:50,559
dirty cop. He's got to burn him. I could see

1107
00:47:50,599 --> 00:47:52,760
them being like he's the leader of the task Force

1108
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,239
and he's the police captain right, like so it's just

1109
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,679
ultra like the cops are just fucking and again, I

1110
00:47:58,679 --> 00:48:02,840
don't know what's gonna happen next week of like, because

1111
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,320
I think they're in season two, Like Punisher's gonna kill

1112
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:06,800
some of them. I just don't know if he's gonna

1113
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,679
kill those head haunch of ones. So that's why I

1114
00:48:09,679 --> 00:48:11,960
think you could get someone in the task Force as

1115
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,719
a new captain, because they're just adding more of than

1116
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,239
after Frank's like off like a good dozen of them,

1117
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:17,519
you know.

1118
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 6: So or maybe we get like a big Bull's ivy Punisher.

1119
00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:23,920
I hope so Punisher trying it?

1120
00:48:24,519 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 1: What the.

1121
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:26,559
Speaker 4: Take you.

1122
00:48:27,159 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm begging to see those two fucking mental cases, man,

1123
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,320
I'm begging to see those two have a scene together,

1124
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,320
like the the moment. If we have a scene where

1125
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,000
Frank shows up and he's killed a bunch of those

1126
00:48:39,039 --> 00:48:41,920
cops and then he looks down the street and he

1127
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:47,599
sees Bulls. I just sit there waiting, my God, that

1128
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,559
staredown is gonna be something. Maybe that's a special, Maybe

1129
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:53,280
Bulls as the villain of the Special. I would take

1130
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,320
that too. But uh yeah, I can't wait for Frank

1131
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:56,840
next week.

1132
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 6: I can't wait.

1133
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: What else we talked to it? Oh Heather? Can we

1134
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:02,800
talk about Heather here?

1135
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,159
Speaker 5: Okay, go for it.

1136
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,679
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just they've made me not liked this character

1137
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,960
at all, her opening up with just again. We talked

1138
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,480
about this last week where fist we've got a vigilante

1139
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,199
amuse and we're like, well, that's not how it works.

1140
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,679
Mus Is killing sixty people, Daredevil saving people doesn't really

1141
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,920
make any sense. The fact that they're like making Heather

1142
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,400
be like, well, Fisk is making a difference and like,

1143
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,199
oh they are the same. And she's like, oh, well,

1144
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,119
Daredevil saves people, and she's like, I saved myself. That's

1145
00:49:30,159 --> 00:49:33,039
not what happened. She did not save herself last week.

1146
00:49:33,199 --> 00:49:35,480
Her wrists were getting cut up, she was tied, dared

1147
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,159
devil got her and she happened to get a gun.

1148
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,119
Woie like that. And then also for so Matt like

1149
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,559
he answers the door and bucks there right and gives

1150
00:49:43,559 --> 00:49:47,039
a whole spiel. But we like to see there when

1151
00:49:47,079 --> 00:49:50,280
they met and I'm assuming it's been multiple months now

1152
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,079
they have keys to each other apartments, but even the

1153
00:49:52,119 --> 00:49:54,039
first date they met, that was the night that Fisk

1154
00:49:54,119 --> 00:50:00,840
won the mayor erection mayor erection. He didn't because he

1155
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,679
won the election, right, and he even that Knight said like, yeah,

1156
00:50:03,679 --> 00:50:05,599
I got a really bad history of Fisk. I would

1157
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:07,599
imagine if when I met Emily and let's say there's

1158
00:50:07,639 --> 00:50:09,599
someone that we had acquaintance and said I had a

1159
00:50:09,639 --> 00:50:12,760
really bad history. Eventually I had probably ask, hey, what

1160
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,719
is that bad history? And of course he's not gonna

1161
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,920
get into like I'm daredevil when we fought, but like

1162
00:50:17,159 --> 00:50:20,039
you could say, hey, it's on record. He tried to

1163
00:50:20,119 --> 00:50:22,480
kill multi my friends, even the comps, and I had said,

1164
00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:25,119
like he was the main suspect in the Ben Yerk murder,

1165
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,239
So you would know, as the girlfriend, like he has

1166
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,199
all this trauma with this guy who multiple times tried

1167
00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:33,039
to ruin his life. You also, Matt Murnock sent him

1168
00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:34,559
to prison. So the fact that he's like, I don't

1169
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:35,400
know if I want to go to that, She's like,

1170
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:36,599
what do you mean you don't want to go? Like

1171
00:50:36,639 --> 00:50:39,039
fuck you, Matt, You're such an asshole. It's like I do.

1172
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,840
I was hoping this character would die because they just

1173
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,199
made her so unlikable from the not understanding the Muse

1174
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,639
and Daredevil difference to not understanding why Matt Murrock would

1175
00:50:48,679 --> 00:50:52,639
have an issue going to the Fisk mayoral inaugural event,

1176
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,159
Like it just it just was odd. It just felt

1177
00:50:55,199 --> 00:50:57,000
like we need Matt and her to be at odds,

1178
00:50:57,039 --> 00:50:58,960
so we're gonna make her act this way. So and

1179
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,239
I don't think the actor wrong the actress. I hope

1180
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,679
something changes to you around next season. But I would

1181
00:51:03,679 --> 00:51:05,880
be completely fine if at the events at the end

1182
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,000
of the events of next episode they split off and

1183
00:51:08,039 --> 00:51:10,719
go separate ways and that's that's it, because they've maybe

1184
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,400
not care about this character at all, and I feel like

1185
00:51:12,639 --> 00:51:16,199
they just made efforts to make her a very unlikable character.

1186
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,719
So yeah, I was annoyed the whole time by this

1187
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:19,760
in this episode.

1188
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 6: And only thing I haven't heard defense is like I

1189
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,119
don't think Matt does a good job at all of

1190
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,000
explaining anything. He just like pushes it off and gives

1191
00:51:29,039 --> 00:51:32,199
her like non answers. And then he's also super shady

1192
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,199
and like doesn't answer a lot of things, like he's

1193
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,239
not been he's been very checked out recently, you know,

1194
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,559
even once again, like I feel like we were getting

1195
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:42,239
that scene where he where she was talking to him?

1196
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,159
Are you even listening to me? And she's asking him stuff,

1197
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,159
and as the viewer, we're kind of cut out of

1198
00:51:46,159 --> 00:51:49,599
what she's actually asking him, right, Like she's actively talking

1199
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:52,920
to him, and we're getting what he's hearing about, like

1200
00:51:53,039 --> 00:51:56,400
Jack and Fist talking in the room, so like she

1201
00:51:56,519 --> 00:51:59,039
probably is asking him more like targeted questions or more

1202
00:51:59,079 --> 00:52:01,480
interesting questions, and he's just not giving her the time

1203
00:52:01,519 --> 00:52:03,400
of day, and we're like seeing more of his perspective.

1204
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,920
But I mean, otherwise, I definitely agree with you, Like

1205
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,719
I'm just not that invested in this character. Uh, And

1206
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:11,760
I don't know, yeah, just like some of the like

1207
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,559
the dialogue specifically around like the vigilante stuff. I feel

1208
00:52:14,599 --> 00:52:17,840
like that stuff feels very like forced in the way

1209
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,199
she talks about them, like oh, they're just like immature

1210
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,639
teenage boys, like whatever she's saying, Like all that stuff

1211
00:52:23,679 --> 00:52:26,000
I think is not super well written. And I think

1212
00:52:26,039 --> 00:52:29,880
maybe especially like since they stopped doing the sessions with

1213
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,519
her like as a therapist, which I guess was only

1214
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,360
I guess that was only Like I'm trying to think

1215
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,679
of the last one we got, because obviously she stopped

1216
00:52:37,679 --> 00:52:40,199
doing that last week because of the Muse stuff. Yeah,

1217
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,039
but I feel like they didn't really maybe know what

1218
00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:43,559
to do with that character in the second half of

1219
00:52:43,559 --> 00:52:45,960
the show once she was kind of not doing that

1220
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,199
therapist stuff anymore, and it sounds like we are not

1221
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,159
going to get that anymore because Vanessa's like, oh, yeah,

1222
00:52:50,199 --> 00:52:52,119
we're good now, so I don't need to do anymore.

1223
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,559
So yeah, I guess maybe they're just struggling to do

1224
00:52:55,639 --> 00:52:56,840
like what to do with her. But you're right, like,

1225
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,880
I don't really know what her plot could be then

1226
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,760
going forward if she's not really part of that storyline anymore,

1227
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,480
and she's not part of the Muse thing anymore. So

1228
00:53:03,559 --> 00:53:06,000
now all she is is this connection to Matt, and

1229
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:08,800
so I don't know, maybe he does finally reveal that

1230
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,400
he's Daredevil and explains all that stuff, and then maybe

1231
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,400
that's where it becomes a little more interesting. But yeah,

1232
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,199
for right now, I feel like we've kind of run

1233
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:16,800
through everything that we could be doing.

1234
00:53:17,199 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: She's in the hostel bad just like you're a weak

1235
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,840
little boy, Matt. When she says that he's dared, like

1236
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,599
she just bearades him, reports some of the cops everything.

1237
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,199
You know, maybe that's maybe next season. She's just team

1238
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,559
Fisk and work with him. You know you're no, Yeah,

1239
00:53:31,559 --> 00:53:34,480
she wants to talk to Frank, Yeah, get me out

1240
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:34,960
of there.

1241
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,639
Speaker 2: I got pretty yeah excited when when Buck showed up,

1242
00:53:39,679 --> 00:53:41,800
because it was like, Okay, we're finally gonna get the

1243
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,360
reveal that that like Matt knows this. And then I

1244
00:53:46,639 --> 00:53:49,440
was excited that they were gonna potentially be at the

1245
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,800
party together because that would have been like Fisk realizing

1246
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,559
all these things. So it was a it was it

1247
00:53:55,599 --> 00:53:57,800
was an enticing like lead up to just what we've

1248
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,800
been building towards kind of like the whole season. And yeah,

1249
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,800
I definitely was disappointed, I think, which is what happened.

1250
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,800
I really wasn't expecting her to just be so pro Fisk,

1251
00:54:09,039 --> 00:54:13,679
and yeah, just the dialogue was just kind of cheesy

1252
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,400
and yeah, to like what Dylan brought up, like Matt

1253
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,639
definitely isn't giving her much to work with, but it

1254
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,960
just I don't know, it just seemed like a pretty aggressive,

1255
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:27,079
like overall just situation from both of their camps and

1256
00:54:27,159 --> 00:54:31,000
then like this is the penultimate now and it just

1257
00:54:31,039 --> 00:54:34,840
seems like this is what the dynamic's gonna be for

1258
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,840
the rest of the season. Because I don't know, I

1259
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,119
just don't think Matt like his main focus is like

1260
00:54:41,199 --> 00:54:43,360
saving that relationship, and it doesn't seem like that's like

1261
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,840
her main focus either, And maybe him revealing that hiss

1262
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,079
Daary devil would like help the situation, maybe worse than it,

1263
00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:51,400
But I don't even want that to happen because I

1264
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,559
already already just feel like he gets his secret just

1265
00:54:54,599 --> 00:54:56,599
revealed way too much, even just like judging by the

1266
00:54:56,599 --> 00:54:59,559
previous show, So don't trust her no exactly, Like it

1267
00:54:59,559 --> 00:55:02,239
was such a big moment for you know, the Karen

1268
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,760
or like Foggy, like these big characters that are close

1269
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,000
to Matt, that have been close to him for a while.

1270
00:55:09,559 --> 00:55:12,519
Their bond was like stronger than what it seems these

1271
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:14,840
two characters are, at least for what was like shown here,

1272
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,599
And I don't personally want it to be salvage for

1273
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,159
like the sake of the show or storytelling or whatnot.

1274
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:21,679
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1275
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I feel like her actions now are

1276
00:55:29,519 --> 00:55:31,559
just attributed to the fact that case she just went

1277
00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:37,480
through this very crazy accident in scenario. But yeah, it

1278
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:40,519
was mused kind of like almost killing her, she said herself.

1279
00:55:40,639 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: I just feel like let's say to More, I get

1280
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,800
attacked by a serial killer. Then six months there, I

1281
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,760
come back on the podcast. I'm back. You know, I

1282
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,480
had an accident, but I returned to keep. I wouldn't

1283
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,079
describe it as an accident, but you know that's fair enough.

1284
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:55,559
Speaker 3: I'll think about it.

1285
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 4: I would say it took her back the one thing too,

1286
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:07,280
And this is how do I explain this? I know,

1287
00:56:07,559 --> 00:56:10,760
I find it kind of maybe annoying when a character

1288
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,559
is like, oh, I just went through this and da

1289
00:56:12,639 --> 00:56:14,639
da da da da da da da da, but it's

1290
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:19,199
justified because Madison, well they they went through all of this,

1291
00:56:19,199 --> 00:56:22,840
this debacle, but we as the viewer know with Matt's perspective.

1292
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,400
And this is where I find that character can be

1293
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,079
kind of annoying because with Matt, and Matt's like he

1294
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,280
can relate to her, but she's like, you know, you know,

1295
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,000
you don't understand, like you need to process this Da

1296
00:56:33,079 --> 00:56:34,400
da da da. And yes, there are some things he

1297
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,679
needs to process, But at the same time, he's also

1298
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:41,599
Vigilanti who's fought resurrected fucking Samara our Ninja's the hand.

1299
00:56:41,639 --> 00:56:45,239
He's gone through so much crazy shit. Uh, and she

1300
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,239
obviously doesn't understand that and know that about him, and

1301
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,400
I get that, but it's just it's something that I

1302
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,719
find kind of annoying when she's just she shot and

1303
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,239
killed a serial killer and then you have Daredevil who's

1304
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,480
gone through all this crazy shit, and just the comparisons

1305
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,079
in her just trying to her, trying to find the

1306
00:57:01,119 --> 00:57:04,280
reason in everything and try to like bridge the gap.

1307
00:57:04,559 --> 00:57:05,039
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1308
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,519
Speaker 4: It's just something with the character, but it's not anything.

1309
00:57:08,599 --> 00:57:10,880
It's my own personal issue I guess with it.

1310
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 3: But overall, is she my favorite fling of Matt's? No,

1311
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:19,119
but I think, uh, she ranked last for you? Is

1312
00:57:19,159 --> 00:57:20,159
she not ranked last?

1313
00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:22,639
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like, who would you put above her? Out of

1314
00:57:22,639 --> 00:57:24,800
the because you share that in the dar Devil spoilers.

1315
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,119
Speaker 3: I did, and I didn't answer that question.

1316
00:57:27,239 --> 00:57:33,719
Speaker 4: Actually, like Cheesy's last for me, Dawson would be I

1317
00:57:33,719 --> 00:57:34,320
think last.

1318
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 3: I didn't.

1319
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't get any I like their friendship more,

1320
00:57:38,199 --> 00:57:41,480
but I didn't have any kind of jibe with them romantically.

1321
00:57:41,519 --> 00:57:46,400
I'd say and then and then they would pop up

1322
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:51,440
after that, But no, I saw someone say, uh, Matt

1323
00:57:51,559 --> 00:57:55,719
and Karen and then Daredevil and Elektra those the two.

1324
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 3: That's how they would kind of pair it off.

1325
00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: No, Matt Karen's with Punisher. That's where it is.

1326
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if I might pick Electra, for sure,

1327
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,320
I think Electra's but the two of them together is

1328
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:06,800
just like.

1329
00:58:08,239 --> 00:58:16,199
Speaker 1: No, the correct answer was that when we get her back,

1330
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,280
you know she's out there somewhere. So I'm hoping that

1331
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,000
appen Electra.

1332
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:23,719
Speaker 2: I'm hoping last time I saw her she was going

1333
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,599
into that box because I never watched Rus Defenders.

1334
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: She perished in the same way Matt did in Defenders,

1335
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,760
or a building fell on them. So if Matt, who

1336
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,519
is not super powered, can survive, electric who is superpowered,

1337
00:58:37,639 --> 00:58:39,800
can definitely survive. So she she's out there. I think

1338
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,440
she's gonna come back. I think maybe even next year,

1339
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:43,840
to be honest, because like I said, I feel like

1340
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:48,559
this show just was dripping in Netflix Daredevil fanboyism of like, oh, yeah,

1341
00:58:48,679 --> 00:58:50,039
this is the show you're waiting for.

1342
00:58:50,159 --> 00:58:53,679
Speaker 6: So really the he uh well, I guess yeah. Daredevil

1343
00:58:53,719 --> 00:58:55,159
and Electra both kind of went out the same way

1344
00:58:55,159 --> 00:58:58,840
as Carla Witch. So I think if he's alive, she's

1345
00:58:58,880 --> 00:58:59,559
definitely alive.

1346
00:59:00,119 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: Man, let's get that couple together. I'm the fucking s

1347
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,320
oh Man what's her name now? God Wanda and.

1348
00:59:07,239 --> 00:59:13,039
Speaker 6: Wilson mattat Wanda pointexter. I'm down for that too.

1349
00:59:13,559 --> 00:59:15,679
Speaker 1: And then he has to fight Vision for his love

1350
00:59:15,719 --> 00:59:18,159
and I just want to I want to see Vision

1351
00:59:18,239 --> 00:59:21,079
explain like the boat theory whatever that was to uh,

1352
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,079
the bullseye and him not have any fucks given about it.

1353
00:59:24,119 --> 00:59:27,119
But let's see. Okay.

1354
00:59:27,159 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 6: So Vanessa Vanessa, Yeah, we didn't talk about this yet

1355
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,639
that she killed Andy. So I think this was a

1356
00:59:34,679 --> 00:59:37,639
really a really big moment of like, you know, we've

1357
00:59:37,639 --> 00:59:39,639
been wondering how is she going to react when she

1358
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,559
eventually finds him. Is she going to find him on

1359
00:59:42,599 --> 00:59:45,000
her own? Is she gonna you know, I didn't expect

1360
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,719
that he would just walk her down there, but that's

1361
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,199
what ended up happening. And I think it was a

1362
00:59:49,199 --> 00:59:51,239
really declared of moment. I mean, this whole episode is

1363
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,719
really like I feel like the Vanessa turn of seeing

1364
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,199
more of her evil side. And as you were mentioned, Travis,

1365
00:59:57,199 --> 00:59:58,880
like there was something that's going on in the season

1366
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,920
three and I just completely forget some of that stuff

1367
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,360
since I haven't watch the show in a long time.

1368
01:00:02,679 --> 01:00:05,039
But yeah, like obviously the reveal that she was the

1369
01:00:05,039 --> 01:00:07,400
one who called the hit on Foggy, but then also

1370
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,639
that she just straight up killed Andy, her ex lover,

1371
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:15,719
and I think one just to really declare her commitment

1372
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,840
to Fisk, but also like this is a loose end,

1373
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,480
and also just to put him out of his misery

1374
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,800
and not just leave him in there kind of rotting anymore.

1375
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,559
So I think it was a multi multi leveled decision.

1376
01:00:25,639 --> 01:00:27,519
But I think it was obviously super telling for her

1377
01:00:27,519 --> 01:00:29,280
as a character. And she's a lot more ruthless than

1378
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,639
I give her credit for sometimes, and I think it's

1379
01:00:31,719 --> 01:00:34,000
just because she works in the shadows where his Fisk

1380
01:00:34,119 --> 01:00:36,280
is very I mean, he tries not to be super

1381
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,559
overt about all the illegal shit he knows, but he's

1382
01:00:38,599 --> 01:00:40,840
a lot more overt than she is. Uh. And so

1383
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,800
I think that was a pretty pretty intense moment. I mean,

1384
01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:47,159
she fucking fired into this guy like like Bullsye, shooting

1385
01:00:47,199 --> 01:00:48,719
teeth like she was going ham.

1386
01:00:49,199 --> 01:00:50,719
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the fight. We're not gonna get punished.

1387
01:00:50,719 --> 01:00:52,760
Your bullsy were gonna at Bullseye and Vanessa And she's

1388
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,119
made whipping her teeth.

1389
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 6: That I don't I don't know if I want that.

1390
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:57,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love.

1391
01:00:57,159 --> 01:00:59,079
Speaker 2: Too how it wasn't just like a quick execute like

1392
01:00:59,159 --> 01:01:01,360
she shot him like in the in each limb.

1393
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 6: It's yeah, like in the hand, You're.

1394
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 5: Gonna suffer for a little bit here.

1395
01:01:05,039 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 2: It's not just a quick close the eyes, lights out moment.

1396
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,079
Speaker 1: But yeah, I like that fisca of the mem answer

1397
01:01:11,119 --> 01:01:13,079
two where he's like, you told me not to kill him,

1398
01:01:13,119 --> 01:01:14,519
so I didn't, you know, like kind of what we

1399
01:01:14,599 --> 01:01:17,039
theorized where she said don't kill him and he didn't.

1400
01:01:17,039 --> 01:01:20,679
He just kept him there and uh yeah, rip two, Adam, Andy,

1401
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,039
you know, a tough way to go on. He was

1402
01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:24,440
just having a good time, you know, me and this lady,

1403
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,760
and now he's been down there for weeks to months

1404
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,159
getting tortured, now shot to death. Family, I had have

1405
01:01:30,159 --> 01:01:31,960
no idea where he is like that. That's tough, but

1406
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,000
I guess that brought them closer together now. I think

1407
01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:37,960
any you know, Vanessa survived, and we spent the whole

1408
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,039
season going back and forth like who was gonna do it?

1409
01:01:41,039 --> 01:01:42,719
And even last week talked about it because we I

1410
01:01:42,719 --> 01:01:44,559
think someone in our chat and multiple people I saw

1411
01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:46,360
people be like, oh, that's it, Fisk is gonna be

1412
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,519
after Vanessa. But we were like, I don't know. It

1413
01:01:48,599 --> 01:01:50,239
kind of reads the other way of like he's in

1414
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,000
on taking out Luca, and they confirmed that this episode

1415
01:01:53,039 --> 01:01:55,440
obviously that they together took up that guy because he

1416
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,360
was kind of a weasel. So I think now they

1417
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:03,119
are completely boning. Did they're both getting into criminal organization ways.

1418
01:02:03,159 --> 01:02:05,639
I will be curious if because that at all mad

1419
01:02:06,079 --> 01:02:08,039
about the bulls Eye. Think I'm not saying he's gonna

1420
01:02:08,119 --> 01:02:10,119
like divorce or kill or anything like that. I know

1421
01:02:10,159 --> 01:02:11,800
he'll forgive or even said in this episode like if

1422
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,239
there's no us, there's no me. But I'm just curious

1423
01:02:14,239 --> 01:02:17,000
how what his reaction is to he knew she was

1424
01:02:17,039 --> 01:02:19,840
doing stuff on the side as far as well, multiple

1425
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,800
things aside, but like for the business. But that's something

1426
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,440
obviously that impacted them greatly. And now Bulls are still

1427
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,239
out there, and like I said, if they don't capture Bulls,

1428
01:02:27,239 --> 01:02:29,599
I feel like he's always That's what I like. But Bullseye,

1429
01:02:29,639 --> 01:02:32,000
he's a problem for our heroes and our films, which

1430
01:02:32,039 --> 01:02:34,639
is a fun as a fun dynamic right like every

1431
01:02:34,679 --> 01:02:37,599
other character is completely you know, side a SIDEB.

1432
01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:40,559
Speaker 6: I'll say he's like a problem for himself. He's just

1433
01:02:40,599 --> 01:02:42,000
a problem.

1434
01:02:41,559 --> 01:02:43,599
Speaker 1: He's just a problem. Yeah, and now he can't die.

1435
01:02:43,679 --> 01:02:45,000
As far as we know, he got thrown off a

1436
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,159
Billain didn't die, So like, I'm sure if you put

1437
01:02:47,199 --> 01:02:49,519
him in like a I don't know, like a wood shipper,

1438
01:02:49,559 --> 01:02:52,079
that would take him out. But it's not like as simple. Okay,

1439
01:02:52,119 --> 01:02:53,639
we could just shoot him and he's over.

1440
01:02:53,679 --> 01:02:56,159
Speaker 6: It's gonna be Scar's guard in Deadpool and that would

1441
01:02:56,159 --> 01:02:57,480
probably do the trick.

1442
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone with his his organs.

1443
01:03:01,679 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 6: You know that shoot out of the Chip Oh yeah,

1444
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,280
oh yeah, Martyer Dome style.

1445
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: Anything. I have one note here where something they're talking

1446
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,559
when Daniel got his promotion. They're saying all the task

1447
01:03:17,559 --> 01:03:20,440
Force works yet d d And they're saying that vigilanity

1448
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:24,000
a vigilante crime is down thirty percent. Not really sure

1449
01:03:24,039 --> 01:03:27,960
how they're tracking that. Yeah. Also it's like I feel

1450
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,440
like those stats are off because like Daredevil just came back,

1451
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,639
so you feel like that'd be up, And like what

1452
01:03:32,719 --> 01:03:35,119
is that saying? Is that saying like are we assuming

1453
01:03:35,159 --> 01:03:38,880
because they've talked about punishure Spider Man and Daredevil and

1454
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,320
then I'm assuming, like you know, there's Luke Cage out there.

1455
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,320
Jessica Jones Iron Fists like those are the only heroes

1456
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,239
that really not the sword has been I guess right,

1457
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,719
Like there's like seven heroes we know are vigilantes. Are

1458
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,079
we to assume this happened? And like Jessica Jones and

1459
01:03:52,119 --> 01:03:55,079
Luke Cage were like, well, I'm staying home, like like

1460
01:03:55,239 --> 01:03:57,039
is that gonna happened? Spider Man four was like, well,

1461
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,440
I can't go out there anymore because there's it just

1462
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,079
felt like an oding to throw out there. And same thing,

1463
01:04:02,119 --> 01:04:04,800
it's like that I feel like you can only throw

1464
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,000
that set out there is if you show a bunch

1465
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,199
of vigilantes, and then you show even if it's not

1466
01:04:10,239 --> 01:04:12,440
one of those seven, like some character being like like a

1467
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,360
new White Tiger, you meet somebody like I'm not going

1468
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,360
out there, like I'm scared to defend the city now.

1469
01:04:16,559 --> 01:04:19,039
So it's just like there's no context for like, oh

1470
01:04:19,079 --> 01:04:21,280
it's down, Like how's it down? Who are these heroes

1471
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,079
that are like fuck this, I'm not going anywhere. It

1472
01:04:23,159 --> 01:04:24,920
just it just felt like an odd thing to throw

1473
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,480
out there that didn't make any sense. And that also

1474
01:04:27,679 --> 01:04:31,679
the other Lady's gonna die too, his former that advisor

1475
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,360
because Daniel went there because they're at the dance. He's like,

1476
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,440
you know, I was really worried about how we'd work together,

1477
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,079
and he's like, now I'm not worried about that at all.

1478
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:40,679
To me, that was almost in city way and that

1479
01:04:40,719 --> 01:04:42,880
she's gonna be taken out very soon or they'll be

1480
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,400
you know, let go for some shady purposes. But yeah,

1481
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,840
I wasn't. I wasn't understanding the vigilante crime math.

1482
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 2: So it's probably just a bullshit stat like politicians will

1483
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:55,760
just throw up people, you know, mm hmm.

1484
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: It probably is. Yeah, it would track with Fisk too,

1485
01:04:58,440 --> 01:04:58,880
he's alive.

1486
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 6: You think that guy's gonna get repprom for because Fisk

1487
01:05:01,599 --> 01:05:03,800
was like when you heard about bulls Eye being out,

1488
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,480
He's like double that security or make sure it doesn't

1489
01:05:06,519 --> 01:05:08,760
get through. And then like that guy clearly fucked up.

1490
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:09,920
His bulls Eye got right through.

1491
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I don't know with the way,

1492
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,119
was there not a way they could have just took

1493
01:05:20,199 --> 01:05:24,360
him to a bathroom and like the like exploded bulls Eye.

1494
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,159
Like I felt like he was very risky to move

1495
01:05:26,199 --> 01:05:28,000
him to General Pop. Like I know what the idea was,

1496
01:05:28,039 --> 01:05:29,679
like always gonna get fucked up in here, But it's

1497
01:05:29,719 --> 01:05:33,480
like this guy's like a master assassin, and you're like,

1498
01:05:33,559 --> 01:05:35,800
I actually thought he was gonna kill the General Pop people.

1499
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,000
I thought that's what was gonna happen because they cut away.

1500
01:05:38,039 --> 01:05:39,199
I thought the next time we came back to him,

1501
01:05:39,199 --> 01:05:42,280
they're just all gonna be dead. That didn't happen. But yeah,

1502
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,840
I just feel like that's the because remember Daredevil's season

1503
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,679
two they tried that with Punisher, where like, how were

1504
01:05:47,679 --> 01:05:49,679
we gonna get rid of Punisher? Well, we're gonna put

1505
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,960
him in this room and all these these other prisoners

1506
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,039
are gonna kill him, and that didn't work, And then

1507
01:05:54,039 --> 01:05:55,559
they did the exact same thing with bulls Eye again

1508
01:05:55,599 --> 01:05:57,360
if that didn't work, So maybe this plan is not

1509
01:05:58,159 --> 01:06:02,159
is not uh but different, right, different fists with the

1510
01:06:02,199 --> 01:06:02,679
same plan.

1511
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't think Vanessa knew what what Fists

1512
01:06:06,239 --> 01:06:09,840
did last time with with Punisher, and then that time

1513
01:06:10,119 --> 01:06:13,360
Fist didn't know what Vanessa was doing with with Bullseye.

1514
01:06:13,519 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 1: But no, but we don't know that though, because they

1515
01:06:16,039 --> 01:06:18,760
said Matt got the information that Fisk is the one

1516
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:22,599
that put Bullseye in the General Pop, not Vanessa.

1517
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,199
Speaker 3: But do we know that's for sure?

1518
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: Those still but we just know that's what he was

1519
01:06:26,519 --> 01:06:28,320
fed because.

1520
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:32,559
Speaker 4: Why because if why would Fisk order Dexter to be.

1521
01:06:32,039 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: Because he hates Dexter like he would want Dexter dead?

1522
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,639
Speaker 4: Why wait till now though, after a year later, after everything,

1523
01:06:39,639 --> 01:06:40,239
why would he He.

1524
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:42,599
Speaker 1: Hasn't been mayor for a year, right, he just got

1525
01:06:42,639 --> 01:06:43,400
may or maybe.

1526
01:06:43,159 --> 01:06:45,519
Speaker 3: He just spend a few I'd say it's been a

1527
01:06:45,559 --> 01:06:46,519
few months though now.

1528
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,079
Speaker 1: But maybe that would have been shady, but now he's

1529
01:06:48,119 --> 01:06:50,400
just altered being shady. He's like, oh whatever, let's just do.

1530
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 3: You know, two coincidental?

1531
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:57,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully they gets answered next week. So anything else

1532
01:06:57,679 --> 01:07:03,880
on this episode, notice, okay, there we go, ladies Jones.

1533
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,199
So yeah, we will be back next week. Overall, sounds

1534
01:07:07,239 --> 01:07:09,880
like we're pretty pausitive. So hopefully next week is the same.

1535
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:11,320
We get a nice, good ending and then we can

1536
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,519
go into season two and just be excited. That's what

1537
01:07:13,559 --> 01:07:15,159
I want. I want next week to end and just

1538
01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:19,639
you know, tooth juice flowing and we can be happy

1539
01:07:19,639 --> 01:07:23,119
about next whatever. I'll just say twenty twenty six. We

1540
01:07:23,119 --> 01:07:25,079
don't got a month, but yeah, we'll see. We'll be

1541
01:07:25,119 --> 01:07:28,280
here next week as usual. We got the discord, you too,

1542
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,719
whatever we've got any thoughts, questions, you know, patreons, you know, concerns,

1543
01:07:31,719 --> 01:07:33,679
even or something we missed. Always let us know we

1544
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:35,800
refer back to it later on a different time. Thank

1545
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,639
you very much for tuning in this episode. I promise

1546
01:07:37,639 --> 01:07:39,880
when you hear from us next, it'll not be boring,