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not a little college football. Going to get into these

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signing day additions for this Cougar football team and also

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the players that are coming back from mission, something that

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we haven't approached just yet. I always like to, you know,

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give some love to all of those individuals that have

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served the Lord with all their high minded strength and

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now they're getting back into shape, getting back into the

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let's discuss national signing Day. Let's break down the transfer

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siineyas first, Jay Clifton, Kansas State linebacker six two two

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twenty five, Pockey Fenale offensive lineman sixty five three ten,

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Kyler Casper wide receiver sixty six two ten Walker Lions

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sixty four to two thirty five, Roger Saliapaga the second,

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offensive lineman, offensive tackle sixty five three twenty five, katou

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Lewave linebacker six one two thirty five, and the Javin

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lineman six foot four three twenty five. Who is most

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likely to be the most impactful next season twenty twenty six. Now,

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it's hard to find a kind of a tangible statistic

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apart from knockdowns in uh sacks u given up along

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the offensive line. So you you kind of couple Pockey

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fee now and Junior c and Zak Yamauchi all together

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as like one unit to degree unless there is a

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unless there's like a starting left tackle, that's just like

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locking it down. Andrew Gentry most likely gonna be the

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right tackle. He ain't moving, he's there. He could also

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move inside. I suppose if you have a really good

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set of of tackles that you've brought in or you're

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gonna move. I thought Austin Leuzer could have moved out

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by the way last year. I thought he was a

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really good tackle. At any rate, I kint a couple

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those guys together, I wouldn't be surprised if the most

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impactful players are the offensive lineman. I'm definitely looking at

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Pockey Fee now and uh and my guy Junior Sea

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at tackle. Those guys are are really nice talents develop talents.

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I've been impressed with those guys as I've checked tape,

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great foot wear, good hands, and uh, just a solid

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base from Pockey, very solid based. So I kind of

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lean that way. Many of you are going to say, look,

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it's it's got to be Walker Lyons or Roger Saliapaga.

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Why Because the highest grated tight end in college football

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last year per PFF was Carson Ryan and someone's got

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to step up to replace that man. And if you're

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a good blocker, you got experience and you can run routes.

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Aaron Roderick's gonna find a way to get you the ball.

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Where have the haters regarding Aaron Roderick gone? The haters

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that said that b YU doesn't use tight ends? Where

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are they now? Have they been silenced for the time being?

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when he has the right clay, when he has the

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right tight end, he utilizes them at a at a

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high rate. Carson Ryan not only he was he highly

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graded in all facets of his game per PFF, he

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was also highly productive as a tight end forty five reception,

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six hundred and twenty yards, thirteen point eight yards per reception,

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three touchdowns along of forty three. He was on the

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field all day every day too, Like he wasn't really

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ever coming off the football field because he was such

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a great blocker. So some of you, when you're discussing

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the most impactful players next year, you're gonna lean into

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Walker Lions. And I can see why you would you

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would lean that direction. Six four to two thirty five

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can play in line, in flex and he's been highly productive. Uh,

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he's been somewhat productive. Highly productive, maybe a little bit

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too much of a stretch, but productive at the P

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four level. So I would hear that as well. Kid

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uluave highest rated player that BYU has acquired via the portal,

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the four star All ACC player looking to fill the

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big shoes of Jack Sack Kelly, who's playing quite well.

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He's played quite well in the Senior Bowl. Okay, that

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maybe is a favorite of yours. But as I dissect

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these these players, that's where I lean. I lean either

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offensive lineman, okay, and I and I kind of couple

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them all together, but I'm leaning Pockey Fen now Junior

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Sea Walker Lyons as a candidate, and then caid Ulauabe

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now Jaydon Williams. Javon Williams could surprise me. He could

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replace you know, a A Moury Bomba, No doubt he could.

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need some experience in that cornerback room. He could be. Uh,

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the provider, the purveyor of picks pick sixes would be great.

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length and he's got experience at the highest levels of

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college football. But I think most people are picking Kaid

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as their favorite. Close second is probably Walker Lyons, and

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then they may pick an offensive lineman or two as

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their third. Now moving on, So that's your transfer sinees list.

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December signees Cowbei, Akana sefani A Latini, Justice, Braithwaite, Adam

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Bywater linebacker, Devon Ekka running back, legend, Glasker wide receiver.

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He's down there right now. Midyear ty Getchee tight end,

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Brock Harris tight end, Antonio Johnson safety, Okay neil My

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defensive end, Braxton Lindsay defensive end, Graham Levison wide receiver,

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Ryder Lions quarterback, obviously going on the mission. Matthew Mason safety,

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he's coming in, Lopetti Moala defensive linean he's going on

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a mission. And Bob Mulitalo is a favorite amongst fans

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regarding the most impactful potential players. Parker Ord tight end,

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Jared Pula, Ken Kennon Pula and Terrence Sarah and then

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of them are gonna be serving missions for the Church

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of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints. So who are

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the players that actually are going to be playing. Devon

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playing Antonio Johnson's gonna be playing Braxton. Lindsay's gonna be

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playing Okay, Matthew Mason gonna be playing, Bob Mulatalo gonna

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be playing Jaren, and Kenn Pula gonna be playing playing

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Terren Sarian gonna be playing. Out of those individuals, which

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true freshman is most likely to make an impact? The

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immediate answer, okay, is probably Bot Mulatalo along the offensive

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lin but he has to get up to date, up

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to speed along the offensive line one cohesive unit. You

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offensive lineman group. But you know, there's a lot of cohesion,

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a lot of chemistry, a lot of repetition. You can

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be talented, but you may not have the scheme. So

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he's got to get up to date. They need an

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assistant coach to sit down with him, make sure he's

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got his technique and install done. TJ. Woods obviously obviously

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bod is a favorite, no doubt about it. Which position's

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going to be simple enough to have one of these

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true freshmen make an impact. Another favorite that is on

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the rise right now is Devon Ekka five foot eleven,

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one hundred and ninety pounds. I imagine with an off

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season under his belt, he will be more than capable

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of putting on some lean muscle mass and becoming an

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impact player. And if there's one position that has a

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little bit of thinness, you know, a little bit of

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male pattern baldness, if you will, it's the running back room.

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We love Preston, we love Joe Vessa, we love Sioni Moha,

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but there's just something missing there. They got to put

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in the work. They have to earn it. If you

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want us to talk about you, you gotta you gotta talk,

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you gotta you gotta put forth a great effort and

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great execution. We saw maybe a little bit of flash

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frompression out of the backfield catching the football. Joe vesa

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at times. He also had some ball security issues. He

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got benched for a while. He looked good in the

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in the bowl game when LJ was out due to

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his uh his shoulder reconstruction, but we gotta find the

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lightning to the thunder, and we haven't seen enough to

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be overly conclusive. Simo has shown an ability, but he's

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also shown an ability to be injured. So BYU offensive

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coordinator Aaron Roderick said that Lehigh running back Devon Akers

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already with the team. He's a midyear and he's already

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standing out in offseason workouts. I never want to put

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too much on a freshman, he stated, But if there

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is a position where freshman can play at BYU, it's

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the running back. He's very good as an aside, Jamal

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swag Daddy, williams Okay and Luke Kahan, Jamal's trainer, have

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been training up to von Ekka that look, mammals are

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only as good as their mentors. We're only as good

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as our mentors. He's got some pretty good mentors around him. Obviously,

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Harvey Young is going to be coaching him up there

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at BYU as well. But I ran into Jamal down

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at BYU last week dat him up, talking to him

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a little bit. He's very optimistic that Devon could be

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a dude, and I don't think he's BS and me

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I don't think he's blowing smoke, so I'm getting it

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from multiple sources. We have Lukhn on the show as well,

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and he went into depth about why he believes Davon

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eka can be a guy, a dude, an RB two

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for by you a little lightning to the thunder. Devon

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as a as a solid. He's not a scatback. He's

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a tweeter, you know, five foot eleven one nineties kind

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of a tweener. He's not. He's scatty, but he's not

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a scat back. He can run with power, he can

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run with speed, one with quickness. Devon Ekkin just gotta

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get up to the speed on the schematics. Obviously. I think

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it's gonna be tough for any one of these other

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guys to step in and make an impact one place

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where I would look at. I haven't evaluated him. I

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haven't got hands on I haven't got eyes on Justice Braithwaite.

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depth issues in the defensive backfield, cornerback safety, you may

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be able to make some hay right. You may be

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able to make some hay justice Braithwaite, Antonio Johnson maybe,

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and then the other one that I would look at

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Matthew Mason. Okay, shout out to Matthew Mason. Don't want

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to forget him. Jaron Pula wide receiver, maybe Kennan Pula

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though defensive back. Maybe. The other one I would look

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at is actually Braxton Lindsay. You saw new See tom

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Waypeyo get a ton of reps this year as a

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premier pass rusher off the edge in a stand up situation.

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Braxon Lindsay's one of those guys that can step in

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immediately and maybe find himself a niche in pass rushing situations.

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on it. Want to hear from you, though. Who's going

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to be the most impactful amongst the transfers and new

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acquisitions per your perspective. Let's take a brief time out.

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I don't know if you guys saw this or not,

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but Joe Flacco recently put out a post on Instagram.

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Joe Flacco says, full circle moment being coached by Steve

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Young last night. This was me posted a picture as

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a twelve year old in Steve Young's jersey playing backyard

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football with my brothers, my brothers, and in my dad's

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alma mater. And and and they're in bya football jersey

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His other brothers got a Steve Young jersey on in

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pads playing backyard football. They're dirtied up, nasty and they

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were getting after it in their backyard. Which kind of

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interesting because Joe Flacco became very close personal friends with

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Dennis Pitta. They won a Super Bowl together. Dennis was

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a baller for the Baltimore Ravens now in an era

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by gone all time BYU great tight end, one of

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the best to come through Brigham. Dennis Pitta and Joe

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Flacco forged a bond that can only be forced on

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the gridiron, through the blood, sweat and tears, through the practice,

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the game's high level play. I find it interesting that

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there was a full circle moment here that that occurred

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recently and just over I want to say a year

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ago or so, maybe two years ago, Joe Flacco, Dennis Pitta,

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and Austin Colly showed up to a BYU basketball game

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heading hanging out. It was a BYU versus Kansas State matchup.

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I think BYU won. I have to go check the

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box score. But pretty cool to see the connectivity the uh,

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the full circle moments and Joe Flacco he looked. Everyone

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grows up looking up to heroes on the gridiron or

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on the basketball corner, on the on the pitch, and uh,

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you hope you can live up to those those heroes.

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I think Joe Flacco did a pretty guysh dang good

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job of living up to his hero, Steve Young. Joe

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Flacco had himself a career. Now did he do it

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in a different way from that of Steve Young? Yes,

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he did. He's a little bit he's built a little

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bit different than Steve Young. But pretty cool to see that.

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Shout out to Joe Flacco now officially as a as

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a young buck and as an adult a BYU fan,

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to ask this question to Cougar fans. I've been told

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time and time again during the a Ride era that

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BAU doesn't use tight ends. After this season, has that changed?

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With Carson Ryanby and the highest graded tight end in

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college football? You know he's gonna get a chance at

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the NFL. We wish him well, hopefully he tests well.

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He had forty five receptions, six hundred and twenty yards

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and three touchdowns after the twenty twenty five season. Are

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the haters of a Rod acting off? Are they saying, well,

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you know what, maybe the determining factor on whether or

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not a tight end is playing and being utilized has

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more to do with the skill set of the player,

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the coach ability of the player, the execution of the

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player combined with his talent, rather than the coach. That's

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all I'm saying. Okay, there has it takes two to tango.

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Can't just be one? Lifting where they stand. You gotta

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it takes two to tango, and it takes trust, It

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takes cohesion, it takes uh the ability of the player

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to to to earn that trust. So have the doubters

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been silenced? Is the question? And I think I think

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they have. And I'll tell you the key difference is, well,

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not only is it the personnel, but it's the coaching

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staff that surrounds Aaron Roderick. Okay, the coaching staff is

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now constructed in a way that Aaron Roderick wanted it

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architected in the first place, but was limited, in my opinion,

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by resources budgets. It's nice to be in the power

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force structure of the Big twelve because you're getting you're

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receiving over the last year or two twenty, eventually thirty,

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eventually forty million dollars. Additional, what can you do with

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those resources, Well, you can go out and you can

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hire and retain high level coaches. TJ. Woods, we can't

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lose him. Kevin Gilbride, we can't lose him. Okay, you

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don't want to lose those guys. The ability to run

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the football this last season was predicated on, Yes, Lj's

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ability to run, but it was the ability of those

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offensive lineman and tight ends to block. The play action

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game was then maximized through that ability to run, run,

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to pass, pass to run, however you want to do it.

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But BYU's play action game was fantastic. The only time

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that they didn't have it was Texas Tech, and that

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defensive front stopped a whole slew of runners and running quarterbacks. Okay,

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so right now, the offensive the offensive coaching staff I

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think is impressive. They picked up Tyler Hughes, who's got

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NFL experience. They have Tyson McDaniel who's retained, Rayland Singleton

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who's retained. This is a really good staff, Harvey Unga

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who's retained. It's a good offensive staff. Is it the

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best in college football? I mean, I'm not gonna go

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that route, but I mean this is a top twenty

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five staff right now. Why do I say that because

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espnsp plus tells me as much consecutive years in which

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you're in, you know, the top thirty, top twenty five

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of college football inefficiency, an offensive efficiency. It's impressive. And

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I think a Rod deserves a little bit of credit here.

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And he went out and got some nice additions after

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losing out on a few talented individuals that have made

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a positive impact within the staff over the last couple

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of years. Matt Mitchell being one of those. Let's go

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and I think his work speaks for itself. He he's

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he's dialed. Ken Pomp is fantastic. He's a great basketball mind.

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Doug goes off on it does not like Ken Palm

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apparently does not the metrics that have that many have

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leaned into in the industry. We'll get into that here momentarily.

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Doug Gottlieb in front of the media. He's the head

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coach for the University of Wisconsin Green Bay. He goes

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off right now on Ken Pom right now, by the way.

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They're twelve and twelve and fourth in the in the

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horizon right now, So they're not bad. It's a good program, right,

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not too shabby. They've won, they've actually lost a lot

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of games recently. They've lost four out of the last

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five games. They got a doub versus Robert Morse, but

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they did have a nice little five game winning streak

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Purdue FW, Milwaukee, IU, Indy, Northern Kentucky, and Cleveland State.

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Let's hear what he has to say about kempom metrics though.

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Speaker 3: Let me help you out a little soundbout here. Okay,

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ken palm is okay because it takes it takes into

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account how much you lose mind, and it has no

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context for who you have who the other team has.

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So in our league, okay, it's like ken palm gives

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you benefits because Oakland plays like seven by games, and

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so if you get close in those by games, and

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those teams that you play in a bye game have

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great years, your numbers go up. Right, So you're like, okay, So,

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like we get dinged because we got Kansas, doesn't really

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hurt us, right, But we played Buffalo hard game, but

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like our team is totally different than when we played

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Buffalo just now didn't play a minute in that game.

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Not a minute. Okay, we had a starter who like

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doesn't play right now for us, there's no there's no

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accounting for that in Ken Pom. Then we go play

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Saint Thomas, right, they're really really good. Now, they pummeled us,

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but some of it was Dontrell's ankle. It was an

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open wound fracture. Okay it. Our team was completely screwed

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up after that. And they're really good, and they're really

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good at home. And then you know, I didn't say fit,

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but we had a game and another night and I'm

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trying to figure out my team. So we play everybody,

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so it looks way worse than it actually was. Then

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you play Minnesota and you nearly beat Minnesota. Minnesota has

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these two really good way beat what Indiana, somebody else

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at home whatever. They almost beat Wisconsin at their place,

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us in US or other teams in the like Cleveland

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non conference, but it's the whole new coaches to have

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a whole new team, and they were like they can

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really score. And Dianessa is a stud. He's been a

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stud since last summer. So it doesn't take into account

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00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:44,880
the context of Northern Kentucky didn't have two starters last game.

467
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,039
You can't account for that. In Ken Palm ratings like

468
00:27:49,839 --> 00:27:54,440
they're good, they are talented. Oakland's good, Oakanstown, Wright State

469
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,240
good talented. And I would challenge that if our league

470
00:27:58,279 --> 00:28:00,680
gets a fourteen or fifth, or if we win it,

471
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,920
we're gonna get a sixteen. We'll be in Dayton. That's fine.

472
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:05,759
We're way better than the other sixteen seeds. Everybody knows

473
00:28:05,759 --> 00:28:09,400
it because this league, everybody has some money, whereas some

474
00:28:09,519 --> 00:28:12,240
leagues nobody has any money, and we have. And in

475
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,240
order to get that money, we play the guarantee games.

476
00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:16,759
And that's how you kind of fund your your budget

477
00:28:16,759 --> 00:28:19,440
that way. And so you'll look at teams you're like that,

478
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,839
that's not a sixteen seed, right, like not close. Conversely,

479
00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:28,559
Miama of Ohio right, Minam of Ohio played three non

480
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,400
d ones, played four by games, and we I have

481
00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:35,119
offered to play them next year at the Cress at

482
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,400
the Rush. Hey, they say they want to play, we'll see.

483
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,200
But that's a high major schedule. That's four at seven

484
00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:46,440
guaranteed wins seven for a mid major, right, that's what

485
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,519
the whole MAC did. They just outside of U. Mass

486
00:28:48,519 --> 00:28:51,079
have played a hard schedule right where they bought wins.

487
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,759
So again, I'm not. I understand that anybody who defends

488
00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:58,440
Ken pumb like, hey, it's just numbers, you're not. I'm not.

489
00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:02,440
It's not about Ken Pomeroy, it's about Pagua, it's not

490
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,799
about all these other forms. But understand that they lack context.

491
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,759
So I think our league, in all honesty right there

492
00:29:09,759 --> 00:29:12,119
with the Mac. If we played a challenge with the Mac,

493
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,400
they played home and home. Right now, we do pretty well.

494
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,720
We feel really really good about Buffalo coming to our place, Miamia,

495
00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:21,200
Ohio come round and they're good. Hey, I'm not taking away.

496
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,319
I think they're really good and they're super super confident.

497
00:29:24,039 --> 00:29:26,759
So I don't even remember the question. But the point

498
00:29:26,839 --> 00:29:29,279
was that our league is not a sixty. We're not.

499
00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:30,359
Speaker 2: We can.

500
00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: I would tell you off camera who the sixteen seeds

501
00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:35,200
are because those are the teams that everybody in college

502
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,160
basketball knows. That's who you want to play in the

503
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,440
non conference, And that's not us, right, it just is.

504
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,799
Speaker 2: Diego. Doug Gottlieb going off on a tangent there, what

505
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,960
is ken pom Though he doesn't like kim pob He

506
00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:52,319
feels like there's not a whole lot of credibility behind it.

507
00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:55,680
It's just numbers, who says. Kenpom dot com is one

508
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,839
of the go to analytics websites for men's college basketball.

509
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,119
The coaches use it, media members use it, fans use it.

510
00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:07,319
It uses an advanced kind of tempo free stats rating

511
00:30:08,039 --> 00:30:11,079
these teams, predicting outcomes, and a value on how good

512
00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:14,759
teams actually are beyond just the wins and losses. Right, So,

513
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,440
ken Palm Ken Palm Roy He's gonna join us later on.

514
00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:20,000
He's a well know college hoops statistician. He actually resides

515
00:30:20,039 --> 00:30:23,160
here in the state of Utah. Tracks every Division one team.

516
00:30:23,359 --> 00:30:26,759
Focuses on the efficiency metrics instead of like raw totals,

517
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:31,319
so fast teams aren't unfairly boosted, et cetera. Core metrics.

518
00:30:31,559 --> 00:30:36,880
This is an adjusted offensive efficiency adjusted defensive efficiency points

519
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,880
scored per one hundred possessions adjusted for opponent quality, so

520
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,279
there's a strength of schedule component to it as well,

521
00:30:43,319 --> 00:30:46,000
and then points allowed per one hundred positions adjusted for

522
00:30:46,279 --> 00:30:50,200
opponent quality. And then you have the adjusted efficiency margin.

523
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,680
And this is the main ranking number that they have

524
00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:56,559
so adjusted oh to adjusted D this is the main

525
00:30:56,559 --> 00:30:59,799
making number. Tempo, how fast the team plays possessions per game.

526
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,480
There's a luck rating too. Okay, there's a luck rating.

527
00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:06,000
And by the way, BYU is ranked two hundred in

528
00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:09,839
luck rating per ken Pom. The ball maybe hasn't bounced

529
00:31:09,839 --> 00:31:13,200
their way. Measures how much a team's record deviates from

530
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:19,079
what the efficiency numbers suggest close games, late game variants. Okay,

531
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,839
so not bouncing their way maybe late in the game.

532
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,960
Strength to schedule as well, how tough your opponent has been.

533
00:31:25,079 --> 00:31:29,000
So why people use it or what people use it for?

534
00:31:29,079 --> 00:31:32,640
Ranking teams nationally? Obviously in CAA tournament analysis, they're seeding,

535
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,200
et cetera. Sports betting, if you're into betting, and in

536
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,279
some context for fans and media, like we get into

537
00:31:40,319 --> 00:31:43,000
this stuff, we geek out about it. And like I

538
00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:46,079
said before, b wuse favored in nine of the last

539
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,119
ten games of their regular season schedule starting off to

540
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,279
night they got West Virginia. They're favored, which they should be.

541
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,519
Ken Palm is a predictive future performance metric right adjust

542
00:31:57,559 --> 00:32:03,039
for that opponent quality us for pace uh separates offenses

543
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:06,680
and defenses clearly. Uh, so you can you can you

544
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,480
can be a team that can maybe win ugly, right

545
00:32:11,559 --> 00:32:15,160
and and and hopefully Ken Palm can can maybe get

546
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:18,079
you know, sniff that out right. And so, what what

547
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,920
is it that people criticize ken pomp for. Obviously it's

548
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,960
a metric you can utilize as a tool in the

549
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,839
tool belt. Uh. But uh, you know, the most valid,

550
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,960
maybe commonly cided criticism of Ken Palm analytics, especially from

551
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,319
maybe coaches, betters, hoops, nerves, et cetera. Number One, it

552
00:32:35,359 --> 00:32:39,160
can underrate teams that do win ugly. Okay, Ken Palm

553
00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:44,240
uh cares about how you win, not just that you win.

554
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:47,480
The teams that grind out close wins, play slow, or

555
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,920
prioritize defense can look worse than their record. And and

556
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,359
I think that's what Doug Gottlieb was kind of leaning

557
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,640
into their uh a little bit with his tie rate.

558
00:32:58,279 --> 00:32:59,880
A team can be what ten and one and so

559
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:02,640
outside the top forty and ken pom because they lose

560
00:33:02,759 --> 00:33:05,680
or they win close games. Uh, fans feel like, hey,

561
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,200
we gotta, we gotta we're keeping winning, we keep on winning.

562
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:12,200
But ken Palm doesn't like our team. So once again,

563
00:33:12,279 --> 00:33:14,559
ken Palm is predictive, not a resume metric. A lot

564
00:33:14,599 --> 00:33:18,359
of these these new analytics s P plus with football,

565
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,720
et cetera, they're they're more predictive than anything else. It's

566
00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:25,400
it's trying to answer how good are you? Not? What

567
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,599
have you earned? So what's gonna go go on going forward?

568
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,599
Early season data is a bit noisy, it's a bit convoluted.

569
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,599
First four to six weeks can be pretty janky. We

570
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,480
have a good sample size now though teams. We kind

571
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,119
of know who these teams are and it's playing out

572
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,920
as such. I don't know, I mean, I guess, I

573
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,559
mean we're I mean, look, it's it's February. We know

574
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,240
these teams, like, I don't know if there's any ill

575
00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:54,799
rated malrated teams right now. Per ken Pom and ken

576
00:33:54,839 --> 00:33:57,480
Palm always stabilizes over time with more data sets. So

577
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,000
and that's what we're seeing right now. You can use

578
00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:02,200
it as a grain AsSalt early on the first month

579
00:34:02,279 --> 00:34:04,960
or so, but then it gets better. It gets better

580
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,039
with age, like a fine why not that I would know?

581
00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:10,880
It doesn't fully capture maybe injuries, lineup changes or growth,

582
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,199
right so you're not going to take into account attrition

583
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,960
of roster sicknesses, a flu game, a flu show like

584
00:34:18,039 --> 00:34:20,880
Ronnie's experiencing right now with the what I call the

585
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:26,760
Corona flu influenza that's going around rampidly along the wahsatch,

586
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,719
running around everywhere. If you've gotten it, you know what

587
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,400
I'm talking about, it hits, make sure you're taking your zinc,

588
00:34:31,559 --> 00:34:33,559
make sure you're taking your Vitamin D, your Vitamin C,

589
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,320
getting your sleep, getting your rest, getting hydrated, getting your

590
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,239
electrolytes in you, and if you get sick, get that,

591
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,920
you know, get them medicines in you. At any rate,

592
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,079
Ken traw Ken Pom's gonna treat a team like like,

593
00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:52,000
you know, with a predicted rating, but a star player

594
00:34:52,039 --> 00:34:55,480
gets hurt, a freshman breaks out, a rotation change fixes

595
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,920
a weakness. The model maybe could lag in that regard,

596
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,199
it's not going to count for that. So another thing

597
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:08,039
that that Ken Pom gets critique for is garbage time

598
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,800
skewing efficiency. That's another thing that Doug Godleep went into.

599
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,400
He's like, well, you know you get into garbage can

600
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,760
you went big or you know you let teams come

601
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,159
back in garbage time? You know, for instance, like BYU

602
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:23,159
came rolling back, but Darren Peterson was on the floor.

603
00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:25,599
They're not accounting for that. They're just saying, okay, well, Bay,

604
00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:27,239
you came back and made it a four point game.

605
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,519
Some people would think that Ken Pom does not accurate

606
00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:33,119
portray who BYU is because Kansas is a much better

607
00:35:33,159 --> 00:35:34,840
team than they are, and they should have got the blowout,

608
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,280
right whatever, U of A should have got the blowout.

609
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,800
You know, Clembs should have got the blowout. All those

610
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,800
teams should have blown BYU out. They would have just

611
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,679
played decent basketball in the second half. Anyway, close games,

612
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,719
execution clutches down. There's a number of things that people

613
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,039
criticize Ken pop for. We'll get into it with ken

614
00:35:51,079 --> 00:35:53,679
Pom later on in the show, but I thought it

615
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,800
was of intrigue of note. Let's see how good Ken

616
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:03,639
Pom is, shall we? Ken pob predicts BYU is favored

617
00:36:04,039 --> 00:36:08,800
in nine of their last ten games. Will by You

618
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:14,880
go nine and one? If they do, they're at worst

619
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,400
a three seed. They could be a two seed. Ladies

620
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,760
and Gentlemen, boys and girls going nine to one in

621
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,719
those last ten games, and triguing to watch, let's see

622
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,639
Ifken Palm gets it right, if they if Ken Bob

623
00:36:27,679 --> 00:36:31,360
gets it right, it's time to dunk on Doug Gottlieb

624
00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:37,079
and his tyrant tyrannical toddler tyrade. He just went off of,

625
00:36:38,199 --> 00:36:40,599
by the way, a couple of things here earlier in

626
00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:43,360
the show. If you missed it, my poll of the day,

627
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,280
chime in on it a cridal Benjamin. I think there's

628
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,079
gonna be a surprise step up, says Kyle collins Worth

629
00:36:50,159 --> 00:36:52,280
yesterday on our show. I think there's gonna be a

630
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,079
surprise step up. I asked him a question, Hey, who's

631
00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:57,519
gonna step up from the bench? Who's gonna step up?

632
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,480
He states, a surprise, I step up that hasn't got

633
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:05,679
a lot of minutes lately coming in. I'll let you

634
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,159
guys figure it out who I'm talking about. But someone

635
00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:11,800
who's barely played this year is gonna step up coming

636
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,079
down the stretch. Who do you think it is? Gugrenation

637
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,400
seventy six point seven percent chiming in right now. State

638
00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:30,400
Dominique dia Monde, Dominique Diamnde, very talented young man who

639
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:36,320
came to Brigham via u dub Dominique Diamande good length,

640
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,679
good athleticism. Why hasn't he played? Why hasn't he found

641
00:37:41,679 --> 00:37:45,400
his way on to the court thus far this season?

642
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,559
How many games has he played in the six hundred

643
00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:57,079
and ninety pound freshman from Buddy Friends. Fourteen games played,

644
00:37:57,199 --> 00:38:00,440
zero game started six and a half minute. It's per

645
00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:05,280
game thirty nine point one percent from the field, sixteen

646
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,599
point seven percent from the three point line. Maybe he's

647
00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:11,599
found his stroke finally, sixty two point five percent from

648
00:38:11,599 --> 00:38:15,280
the charity stripe one rebound, one point one rebound, point

649
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,559
two assists, point four steals, uh and UH two point

650
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:21,760
one points per game. That's what he's done thus far

651
00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:24,559
this season. He's only taking twenty three shots. By the way,

652
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:31,360
Dominique number twenty four, Okay, is he gonna be able

653
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,119
to harness the mama mentality with that two to four

654
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:39,000
shout out to uh to Dominique if he gets his chance,

655
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,480
if he gets his his his call up. As I mentioned,

656
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,400
transferm Washington joined the Huskies in January and red shirted

657
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,440
last year. Played in twenty six games for eighty eight

658
00:38:50,039 --> 00:38:53,800
Bloyse Bloy of France the pro am under twenty one

659
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,840
league average sixteen point six rebounds to assist in one

660
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,519
point eight steals per game for eighty eight boys, shot

661
00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:02,199
fifty one point nine percent from the field, so he

662
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,599
has it in him to get buckets. Also SIGs in

663
00:39:05,639 --> 00:39:08,519
fourteen games for the A d A Boys Senior team

664
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:14,719
in bett Click Elite, the top tier French basketball competed

665
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,800
for the Ivory Coast as well in twenty twenty one.

666
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,639
A little connection there with Ivory Coast and Charles Abuo

667
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,519
right in twenty twenty one FIBA Under sixteen African Championships

668
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:26,400
average twenty one point two points per game at twelve

669
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,360
rebounds per game. He's got rebounding ability in him as well,

670
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,400
and then made full international debut with Ivory Coast during

671
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,199
the twenty twenty three FEBA World Cup qualification. He's played

672
00:39:37,199 --> 00:39:41,119
a lot of ball, guys. He's got the talent, he's

673
00:39:41,159 --> 00:39:43,199
got the ability. Maybe he's the answer coming off the

674
00:39:43,199 --> 00:39:47,719
bench to get some buckets and let's see how it

675
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,960
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it been restarted in the modern era. Let's discuss it

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with Brandon Deulbin. This is Cougar Sports on one of

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the three nine ninety eight point three