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<v Speaker 1>But nine day, Holy crap, I don't know who the

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<v Speaker 1>hell we think when we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Get off our show, idiots.

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<v Speaker 1>The kids are playing to tail off. Your countries are

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<v Speaker 1>screwing it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inner Murals.

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<v Speaker 1>They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna ask the question if we're ready or not?

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<v Speaker 3>Meaning are we ready to get this thing started? And

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<v Speaker 3>it really is is pointless to ask the question because

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't matter if you're ready.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready. My name is Nick Coffee. I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>knew that. Austin Montgomery. I know you know him. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the travel chief. I know he's ready, right, I stay ready.

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<v Speaker 1>We're ready.

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<v Speaker 3>So collectively we're all ready. And if you're not ready,

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<v Speaker 3>you'll be. You'll be up to speed.

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<v Speaker 1>Here soon.

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<v Speaker 3>It's coffee and company, and we are fueled by Thornton's

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<v Speaker 3>here on sports to seven ninety on a beautiful, beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>Tuesday afternoon here in Louisville, Kentucky, beautiful. Right now as

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<v Speaker 3>we speak, it is three oh one and by you

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<v Speaker 3>know who knows in the next ten minutes, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 3>not as beautiful. But when I made my way from

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it was one of those beautiful days. So

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully that that continues. And we're gonna take you up

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<v Speaker 3>until not six o'clock because unless I'm wrong, aren't we

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<v Speaker 3>out early today for the Bats?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Bats, Gay Spas back.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll be we'll be out of here about five

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<v Speaker 3>thirty ish today, So two and a half hours.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a little bit less than what you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Used to, so let's just all join in and making

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<v Speaker 3>sure we make the most of these next two and

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<v Speaker 3>a half hours. Derby is over, obviously, and yesterday was

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<v Speaker 3>a big recap and enjoyed doing that. And uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Derby is a tricky thing for me, as I've probably

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<v Speaker 3>discussed more than I really needed to. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's such a big deal around here. But obviously it's

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<v Speaker 3>just not something that I have as much as much

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<v Speaker 3>knowledge and I guess or interest when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>horse racing. But the Derby event, everything that comes with it,

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<v Speaker 3>that's been a big focus in the last week and

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<v Speaker 3>some change and it's been fun, but I want to

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<v Speaker 3>shift gears here, or maybe I should more so say

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<v Speaker 3>turn the page, because there's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Of other things I want to get into. And we'll

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<v Speaker 1>do that.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll have some pubb'll mix it up, and I hope

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<v Speaker 3>you guys will stick with us. You can take us

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<v Speaker 3>with you wherever you go. You can listen live on

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<v Speaker 3>the Hour radio app. Also listen live at seven ninety

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<v Speaker 3>Louisville dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>And I say all that to say, but.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, this is me letting you know that I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want you to think that we're going to just

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<v Speaker 3>do horse racing stuff the rest of the show after

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<v Speaker 3>we start with it. But it is worth mentioning that

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<v Speaker 3>we did get some news. But then I believe the

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<v Speaker 3>last hour or so that this year's Kentucky Derby winner

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<v Speaker 3>sovereignty winner of Derby one point fifty one is going

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<v Speaker 3>to miss the Preakness Stakes, which obviously eliminates all potential

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<v Speaker 3>of a triple crown. And I from what I've gathered

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<v Speaker 3>again and i'm i'm i'm I'm sharing this just based

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<v Speaker 3>off of literally what I've what I've read from the

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<v Speaker 3>coverage at NBC, the coverage at by Pat forty at

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<v Speaker 3>Sports Illustrated and just some This is this is where

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<v Speaker 3>I am when it comes to just kind of knowing

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<v Speaker 3>like where to go when it comes to get legitimate

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<v Speaker 3>trust information you can trust when it comes to these

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<v Speaker 3>kind of things. Is that you know, it's just people

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<v Speaker 3>who I know that love horse racing. And apparently Bill Mott,

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<v Speaker 3>trainer of Sovereignty, is old school to where he will,

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<v Speaker 3>not to say others don't, but he is believed to

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<v Speaker 3>be somebody that will not necessarily worry about chasing that

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<v Speaker 3>triple crown. He'll think about the horse first. And it

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<v Speaker 3>sounds as if owners do trust Bill Mott to where

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<v Speaker 3>as much as a triple crown would be you know,

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<v Speaker 3>would be amazing because those don't happen very often. They're

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<v Speaker 3>making the decision that they believe is best suited for

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<v Speaker 3>the horse.

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<v Speaker 1>Sovereignty.

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<v Speaker 3>So again, I think it was about about one thirty

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<v Speaker 3>when the news broke that Sovereignty will be skipping the Preakness,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was the Pimlico Race course, of course, you

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<v Speaker 3>know the Preakness event itself. They released a statement kind

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<v Speaker 3>of putting it out there and Pat forty and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not picking up Pat at all. I just I'm reading

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<v Speaker 3>directly from because that's the first place I saw it.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as the news being broke, not to say

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<v Speaker 3>he deserves credit for breaking it. Maybe he just put

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<v Speaker 3>it out there and I happen to see it at

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<v Speaker 3>that time. But the last sentence in his post is

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<v Speaker 3>what I wanted to kind of start with it, because

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<v Speaker 3>it says horse racing is the king of self inflicted wounds.

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean, I wouldn't be the one that could

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<v Speaker 3>tell you if that's fair or foul, but like I

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<v Speaker 3>kind of get why he's saying it, right because if

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<v Speaker 3>you are Pimlico and the Preakness, I mean, you already

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<v Speaker 3>don't get anywhere near the attention and the coverage that

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<v Speaker 3>the derby gets and that'll never change. But the scenario

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<v Speaker 3>where you do, I mean, like this is the worst

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<v Speaker 3>case scenario for them. No, like they'll have I mean

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<v Speaker 3>assume they'll still have plenty of people that attend, plenty

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<v Speaker 3>of people that wager, but like best case scenario for them,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's all I mean winsl. I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 3>this has happened before, and we can look back and see,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just how common it is. But for the

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<v Speaker 3>Preakness race. To know that the horse who just won

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<v Speaker 3>the Derby is already out, like that's gotta be a like,

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<v Speaker 3>I get it like that, that does seem as if

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<v Speaker 3>it is a self inflicted wound. But again, who's self

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<v Speaker 3>inflicting it?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Like that?

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<v Speaker 3>That's what interested me today to where I you know,

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<v Speaker 3>believe it or not. I'm not trolling you, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>This is this is in a bit, it's the truth just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of here, you know. And again I'm not picking

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<v Speaker 3>on Pat forty like you said something crazy, but who

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<v Speaker 3>inflicted the wound? When you say self inflicted? Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it Bill Mott and his team? Is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it the fact that these races aren't spread apart,

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<v Speaker 3>meaning with more time in between. Because again, this is

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<v Speaker 3>where I'm just being transparent. I'm out there on any

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<v Speaker 3>telling you guys, I don't have a clue what you know?

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<v Speaker 3>What is what the consensus opinion is for those that

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<v Speaker 3>do enjoy horse racing as this, you know, the sport itself,

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<v Speaker 3>and don't just think about the Derby. They think about,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the other races like the Belmont and the Breakness.

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<v Speaker 3>But could they make some adjust because this I think

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<v Speaker 3>could turn into at least maybe a conversation about the

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<v Speaker 3>ball rolling to adjust the schedule here, because it's been

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<v Speaker 3>a long time, right, Like, we went many many, many years,

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<v Speaker 3>many decades without having a triple crown winner, and then

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<v Speaker 3>it happened with American Pharaoh, and then not long after

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<v Speaker 3>it happened to Justify. But all I it was almost

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<v Speaker 3>like it was on a loop when you would hear

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<v Speaker 3>people discuss a triple crown, the chances of it happening,

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of stuff. What I feel like I heard,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, my memory, if you know, my memory is

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<v Speaker 3>relatively solid. I feel like what I heard more than

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<v Speaker 3>anything when it comes to that loop, I reference was, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's just not realistic, it's just not practical.

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<v Speaker 3>It's this day and age. There's just such little time

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<v Speaker 3>between races. Therefore it'll never happen again. And when you

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<v Speaker 3>say self inflicted wound, I wonder if that's more so

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<v Speaker 3>because they don't realize they could make some slight adjustments

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<v Speaker 3>that might in fact make, you know, make this a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more doable for horses to go from Derby

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<v Speaker 3>to to Preakness or you know, is it saying that

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<v Speaker 3>you know the trainers and the owners are at fault

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<v Speaker 3>for not wanting their horse to run in the second

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<v Speaker 3>leg of the triple Crown.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think the.

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<v Speaker 3>Triple Crown again, and this is where I get out

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<v Speaker 3>there and I'm just you know, I'm not in my

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<v Speaker 3>comfort zone. So I'm letting you guys know ahead of

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<v Speaker 3>time a triple crown happening when it did with American

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<v Speaker 3>Pharaoh and then and then justify that really did debunk

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<v Speaker 3>those who said it would never happen again. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>one thing to get one triple crown winner since I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>who was the one before that, I mean it wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>The last triple crown winner before before we had the

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<v Speaker 4>two before American Pharaoh. Yeah, I mean I could look

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<v Speaker 4>that up.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean yeah, and actually if you could look it up,

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<v Speaker 3>because I want to know the year when it was,

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<v Speaker 3>because I think I sometimes exaggerate just how long it

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<v Speaker 3>we went without one.

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<v Speaker 1>But it just seemed to be.

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<v Speaker 3>And again, I'm talking about folks who are into horse

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<v Speaker 3>racing like it's what they do, meaning that they their fans,

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<v Speaker 3>they cover it and they you know, it's it's the

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<v Speaker 3>it's their gig. It just became from what I gathered

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<v Speaker 3>in their minds something. Well, we need to just stop

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<v Speaker 3>talking about because it'll never happen again. Let's just get

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<v Speaker 3>over it. Let's just realize that that will not be

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<v Speaker 3>doable again. And then it happened twice, you know, in

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<v Speaker 3>a in a relatively short amount of time.

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<v Speaker 1>I got it.

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<v Speaker 4>Last one before American Pharaoh was do you remember the

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<v Speaker 4>horse name?

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<v Speaker 2>Affirmed?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I don't know why the hell I said, Secretary

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle Secretary was two before him. Okay, And so there

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<v Speaker 1>have been one.

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<v Speaker 4>Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve,

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<v Speaker 4>only thirteen triple crown winners.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it cause and again, when was the first one.

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<v Speaker 4>That was back in nineteen nineteen where it was Sir Barton?

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<v Speaker 1>So nineteen nineteen up until a firm? What year was affirm?

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<v Speaker 1>He was nineteen seventy eight. Yeah, so we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a it happening.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, even even as many times as it happened,

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<v Speaker 3>like I feel, I think from nineteen nineteen on until

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<v Speaker 3>a firm, it's still not something that was happening super frequently.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, It's pretty rare, pretty hard to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Nineteen nineteen, nineteen thirty nineteen thirty five, then two years

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<v Speaker 4>after that nineteen thirty seven and forty one, forty three,

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<v Speaker 4>almost a twenty year drought, was seventy three, seventy seven,

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<v Speaker 4>seventy eight with the firm, and then we had that

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<v Speaker 4>drought again until twenty fifteen. In twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 3>So wow, so gosh, it's crazy. So justify I was

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eighteen. Yes, wow, I for some reason thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was much more recent than that. Believe it's been that long.

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<v Speaker 3>But again it went from being something we thought we'd

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<v Speaker 3>never see to happening twice. And you know, here I

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<v Speaker 3>am being so hyper focused more so just on the

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<v Speaker 3>derby and seeing all the attention deservedly. So that was

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<v Speaker 3>given yesterday once we got the TV ratings. As far

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<v Speaker 1>In a long long time.

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<v Speaker 3>It proves that big, big events here in America, when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to sports, they still will gravitate to people

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<v Speaker 3>So then you know, to see that love and then

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<v Speaker 3>it be ended with a little caveat of well for

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<v Speaker 3>a sport that's struggling, for a sport that you know

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<v Speaker 3>So like if you could do things that could prevent

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<v Speaker 3>that from happening, like why why not make adjustments? Like

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<v Speaker 3>the Derby is going to be fine regardless, right, Like

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<v Speaker 3>the Derby is in a world of its own when

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to worry about interest and attendance, right And

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know enough about the Bellmont or the Preakness

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<v Speaker 3>to know sort of where they are, but they're not

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<v Speaker 3>Churchill downs in the Derby. So like, if there's things

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<v Speaker 3>that they could do to extend from the Derby, meaning

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<v Speaker 3>triple crown winner because you have stretched out these races,

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<v Speaker 3>like why not do that? So Mike Rodgers is the

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<v Speaker 3>Race Course, which of course is where the Preakness is.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's his quote.

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<v Speaker 3>We receive a call today from trainer Billmont that sovereignty

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<v Speaker 3>will not be competing in the Preakness. Bill informed us

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<v Speaker 3>they would point towards the Belmont Stakes. We extend our

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<v Speaker 3>congratulations to the connections of sovereignty and respect their decision.

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<v Speaker 3>We continue to see the excitement building toward the milestone

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<v Speaker 3>celebration of the one hundred and fiftieth Preakness Stakes, and

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<v Speaker 3>we look forward to an incredible weekend of world class

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<v Speaker 3>racing and entertainment. So, I mean, there's there's no scenario

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<v Speaker 3>if you're Billmont or the ownership group that you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you're doing this because you care about the horse,

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<v Speaker 3>right Like, there's no other reason why you would not

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<v Speaker 3>do it like you would, you know, I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>it's a scenario where they felt like they got lucky

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<v Speaker 3>in the Derby and don't want to you know, risk

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<v Speaker 3>really you know, being I don't think. I mean, again,

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<v Speaker 3>what do I know? But I just I would highly

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<v Speaker 3>be shocked if that has anything to do with it.

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<v Speaker 3>So the biggest reaction that I've been able to gather

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<v Speaker 3>in the last hour and a half since this news

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<v Speaker 3>broke is that, hey, why don't we why don't we

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<v Speaker 3>spread these races out a little bit like the Derby

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<v Speaker 3>should always be the first Saturday in May. To be fair,

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<v Speaker 3>if there's one race in the triple Crown that deserves

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to say we're going to do this

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<v Speaker 3>however we want. It's the Derby, but the Preakness, why

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<v Speaker 3>not do it? Why not do it in you know,

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<v Speaker 3>early June. Maybe you make it the first Saturday in June.

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<v Speaker 3>Hold the Belmont, you know, make it a fourth of

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<v Speaker 3>July kind of thing. Whatever weekend happens to, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>fall closest to fourth of July.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it gives you more of I think a modern

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<v Speaker 3>schedule where you know all three you know you can,

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<v Speaker 3>you can realistically being you know a little bit better,

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<v Speaker 3>better prepared to to be able to run in all three.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyways, that's the news following two days after Derby.

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<v Speaker 3>We now know that this year's Derby winner is not

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<v Speaker 3>going to be participating in the Breaknas.

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<v Speaker 1>But and again, I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I if it's if it's the right reason for the horse,

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<v Speaker 3>then you know that's really all that matters. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>right reason. But I think the chase of a triple

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<v Speaker 3>crown really became realistic again because it went so we

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<v Speaker 3>went so long without one.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we had too.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, now we already know there's no there's no shot

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<v Speaker 3>at one because the guy who you know, the horse

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<v Speaker 3>that just won Derby is already is already out. So

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really know, Like this is one of those

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<v Speaker 3>things where, yeah, it sucks, because we would all probably

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<v Speaker 3>like to see at least a chance to see if

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<v Speaker 3>we could have another triple crown winner. As Austin just mentioned,

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<v Speaker 3>with those numbers, it's very rare, so you know, to

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<v Speaker 3>know already that like it's not happening, it does suck.

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<v Speaker 3>But who you mad at the person that wants to

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<v Speaker 3>keep a horse safe? You know, like I just you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bummer.

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<v Speaker 3>But sometimes when you realize like things just didn't work

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<v Speaker 3>out the way that you wanted something, you know there's

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<v Speaker 3>a result you don't like, or a decision that's been

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<v Speaker 3>made that that maybe impacts you in a negative way,

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<v Speaker 3>Like all that sucks, But if you have no route

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<v Speaker 3>to really point it back to, like.

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<v Speaker 1>But like you could eat you could, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>could deal with it a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just to see that the news and then

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<v Speaker 3>it turned to well, hey, horse racing man, they just

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<v Speaker 3>can't get out of their own way self. Inflicted wounds,

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<v Speaker 3>like who we mad at here? Like who did something wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if anything, I would assume that if this

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<v Speaker 3>race was maybe a little bit later than the current

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<v Speaker 3>date that's scheduled, then maybe that maybe sovereignty would be

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<v Speaker 3>able to go. And if so, I think you point

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<v Speaker 3>the finger at the schedule and whoever decided on that

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<v Speaker 3>probably ain't even around anymore, like horse racing seems to have,

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<v Speaker 3>and again i'd say seems to have because I'm letting

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<v Speaker 3>you know right now, I've stepped out, I've stepped out

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<v Speaker 3>of said comfort zone, and I'm now sharing thoughts on

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<v Speaker 3>horse racing, well aware that I'm not as informed as

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of you listening, and also horse racing will

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<v Speaker 3>be found without my thoughts, my suggestions. They understandably so

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<v Speaker 3>would not have any interest in any kind of suggestions

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<v Speaker 3>that I would make. But horse racing again seems to

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<v Speaker 3>have a little bit of like the the golf element

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<v Speaker 3>to it, to where like it's historic and it's the

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<v Speaker 3>way we've always done it, so that's just the way

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<v Speaker 3>it is. And I get sort of the mindset behind

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<v Speaker 3>that from the purists. But like this day and age,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to grow the game. You got to you

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<v Speaker 3>got to understand that if you want people at a

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<v Speaker 3>your content, whatever it is you're doing. I meant the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day, horse racing is what entertainment.

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<v Speaker 1>It's business.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the people who make a lot of money

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<v Speaker 3>and are the ones who own the horses and are

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<v Speaker 3>trainers that kind of stuff. But like if it's on television,

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<v Speaker 3>it's because people can watch it and they can wager

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<v Speaker 3>on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's that's that's what it is. It's entertainment.

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<v Speaker 3>So you got to keep in mind there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>more competition in twenty twenty five for people to be entertained,

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<v Speaker 3>and if a slight adjustment to the schedule would give

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<v Speaker 3>you a better ability to really make these other you know,

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<v Speaker 3>really just the second leg, because you know, the the Bellmont,

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<v Speaker 3>it just comes down to, like, all right, do they

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<v Speaker 3>knock off the first couple of legs and if so,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the best case scenario obviously for the Belmont, But

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<v Speaker 3>they can't control that, and you know.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to know that going in.

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<v Speaker 3>But with the Preakness, when horses decide not to go,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just because it might be too close and

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<v Speaker 3>they don't have enough time to rest. That to me

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<v Speaker 3>seems like an easy fix. And I'm thinking, like, who

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<v Speaker 3>says no? I mean, especially given this time of year,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I could be totally wrong here, And again, disclaimer,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm stepping outside of not even a comfort zone, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just out here rambling about things that, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of you are probably thinking, the hell's this

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<v Speaker 3>scut talking about? Didn't he know that the Preakness race

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<v Speaker 3>is on this, Like I'm assuming NBC has all so

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<v Speaker 3>the Preakness and the Belmont.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>But if I'm wrong, I'll stand correct. But it only

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<v Speaker 3>makes sense, right, Yeah, it only makes sense. So I

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<v Speaker 3>mean again, you're not competing on NBC with a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of other things to put on television at that time,

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<v Speaker 3>Like a slight adjustment that could make it a.

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<v Speaker 1>Little more doable. I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Put it this way, it can't hurt, right, Like, what

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<v Speaker 3>what's what's the downfall? I mean that again, And maybe

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<v Speaker 3>there is legitimate downfall and a reason why they don't

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<v Speaker 3>do it, And I'm just, you know, that ignorant. That's

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<v Speaker 3>certainly a possibility. But to see the winner on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 3>and there'd be so much, you know, energy, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think after the Derby it's always the first question

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<v Speaker 3>that comes to mind for people once they sober up. Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you think we could have a triple Crown winner? And

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of times we don't. More often than not

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<v Speaker 3>we don't. But this is the moment where you really

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<v Speaker 3>never know, right, Like you're sitting here thinking this race

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<v Speaker 3>or this this this horse Sovereignty clearly did enough to

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<v Speaker 3>generate enough buzz to be in the conversation as one

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<v Speaker 3>of the favorites and got it done, got the win,

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<v Speaker 3>and the lead up to the Preakness about can Sovereignty

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<v Speaker 3>get the second leg down and get even closer to

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the pinnacle of horse racing, the Triple Crown,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's already eliminated, and I just feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it could be avoided if there was a slight change.

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<v Speaker 3>But again that's just my thoughts on it. I'll step

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<v Speaker 3>now back into like, you know, my comfort zone because

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<v Speaker 3>I rarely just get out there and share like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>here's what horse racing should do, because again, like they

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<v Speaker 3>don't need to appeal to me, but if it's such

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<v Speaker 3>a oh, they can't get out of their own way

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<v Speaker 3>and it's based simply off schedule. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think it would be a real big deal to make

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<v Speaker 3>a slight adjustment. And the reason again, the root of

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<v Speaker 3>why I'm bringing all this up is because for the

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<v Speaker 3>longest time, when we were told we'd never see another

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<v Speaker 3>triple Crown winner, most people referenced that two things. One,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just unrealistic to expect this much out of a

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<v Speaker 3>horse in these three races and now amount of time.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the biggest factor.

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<v Speaker 3>The other was, well, there's just so many horses in

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<v Speaker 3>the Derby that like, sometimes you end up with a

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<v Speaker 3>random winner of the Derby that really wasn't that impressive,

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<v Speaker 3>but the other horse is just gassed out. Because the

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<v Speaker 3>Derby is such a long race and there's so many horses,

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<v Speaker 3>you really never know what you're gonna get. Kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like sometimes you'll get a team that you know wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>that good, but man, they got hot. They made the

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<v Speaker 3>Sweet sixteen, they made the Elite eight. I always find

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<v Speaker 3>myself comparing other things in sports to you know, college basketball, like,

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<v Speaker 3>for example, the college football playoff appearance to me is

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<v Speaker 3>now considered like basically a final four of college football,

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<v Speaker 3>like it is basketball so all right, we got a

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<v Speaker 3>This is something that hit the news wire today and

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, initially it seems kind of kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Silly.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I mean, Silly's not the word I was aiming for,

442
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<v Speaker 3>but nothing else came to mind. But Clemson and Notre

443
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<v Speaker 3>Dame have agreed to a twelve year series in football

444
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<v Speaker 3>from twenty twenty seven to twenty thirty eight, and you

445
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<v Speaker 3>may wonder, why the hell does anybody care, and may

446
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<v Speaker 3>there may not be a person that's listening that cares.

447
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<v Speaker 3>But I think if you're in the ACC in both

448
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<v Speaker 3>football and basketball, your best course of action would be

449
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<v Speaker 3>to understand where the league is, understand realistic expectations, or

450
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<v Speaker 3>really just being realistic with yourself as far as how

451
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<v Speaker 3>much better the league can get. So I think Clemson

452
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<v Speaker 3>here is well aware that we can't just have years

453
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<v Speaker 3>where we have Notre Dame on the schedule because of

454
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<v Speaker 3>the ACC arrangement twice in a six year window. We're

455
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<v Speaker 3>gonna need if we want to impress the committee to

456
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<v Speaker 3>get into the college football Playoff, we need to absolutely

457
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<v Speaker 3>have a annual opponent on the schedule that will give

458
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<v Speaker 3>us big time value if we beat them, and wouldn't

459
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<v Speaker 3>kill us if we lose if we lose a close game,

460
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<v Speaker 3>because that's what it seemed like.

461
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<v Speaker 1>It's started to turn into.

462
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<v Speaker 3>Like if you lose if you have a good record, like,

463
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<v Speaker 3>for example, if Louisville, and maybe they aren't the best

464
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<v Speaker 3>example actually, because nobody really gave respect to the ACC,

465
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<v Speaker 3>but prior to Louisville's loss to Stanford, let's say they

466
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<v Speaker 3>finished the season nine to three and all three losses

467
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<v Speaker 3>are to Miami, Notre Dame, and SMU. I mean pains

468
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<v Speaker 3>me to say it, Austin, but they might have been in.

469
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<v Speaker 3>Like I don't think they would have got in, but

470
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<v Speaker 3>I mean Clemson got in, all right, I mean like

471
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<v Speaker 3>they might. Clemson got in because they won they won

472
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<v Speaker 3>the league, I guess, But as far as the championship.

473
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<v Speaker 1>Didn't the win the championship game? They did, right, Clemson

474
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<v Speaker 1>beat s MU and the AC championship.

475
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

476
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so so they got in regardless. But you know,

477
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<v Speaker 3>maybe because Louisville beat Clemson at Clemson the way they did,

478
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<v Speaker 3>maybe Louisville would have been able to somehow edge SMU.

479
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<v Speaker 3>It's it's silly to go back and think about that,

480
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<v Speaker 3>but you know, the A this this tells me a

481
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<v Speaker 3>couple of things. One, Clemson's aware that they're gonna have

482
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<v Speaker 3>to schedule an annual It can't just be South Carolina

483
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<v Speaker 3>because you're you know, obviously Shane Biemer has done a

484
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<v Speaker 3>good job and they're in a better spot now than

485
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<v Speaker 3>they well, they.

486
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<v Speaker 1>Seem to be hit or miss.

487
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<v Speaker 3>Beemer will have a year where it looks as if

488
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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna have to coach for his job, and you know,

489
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<v Speaker 3>then he has a good year, then he'll he'll he'll

490
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<v Speaker 3>take a step back. But they've got Clemson every year

491
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<v Speaker 3>as an annual opponent, and they also have, uh, they

492
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<v Speaker 3>now have Notre Dame as an annual opponent starting in

493
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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty seven. So two things to take from this,

494
00:23:05.839 --> 00:23:08.960
<v Speaker 3>and I'm sure I'm reaching a little bit, But if

495
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<v Speaker 3>the SEC does go to nine games in their conference schedule,

496
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<v Speaker 3>which right now Greg Sanki what he's doing is really

497
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<v Speaker 3>not even try me.

498
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<v Speaker 1>He's not hiding it.

499
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<v Speaker 3>They want to If they're going to go to nine,

500
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<v Speaker 3>then they're going to make adjustments on their end where

501
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<v Speaker 3>they will no longer like they'll they'll probably encourage South

502
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<v Speaker 3>Carolina to not schedule Clemson. They'll encourage Kentucky not to

503
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<v Speaker 3>schedule Louisville because they're going to non conference games.

504
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<v Speaker 1>So a couple things.

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<v Speaker 3>This is maybe Clemson giving themselves an added non conference

506
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<v Speaker 3>opponent that will give them big value with a win

507
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<v Speaker 3>and won't kill them if they lose if they lose

508
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<v Speaker 3>South Carolina, or they're just of the opinion that they're

509
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<v Speaker 3>going to need maybe two non conference resume opportunities, meaning

510
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<v Speaker 3>big value with a win, not a killer if you lose,

511
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<v Speaker 3>because what they do in league play will no longer.

512
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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's you know, beating up.

513
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<v Speaker 3>And in fact, for years now, running through the ACC

514
00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:09.680
<v Speaker 3>just hasn't hasn't actually given you a whole lot of respect,

515
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<v Speaker 3>And and I can't I argue.

516
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<v Speaker 1>That the respect is deserved.

517
00:24:13.079 --> 00:24:16.079
<v Speaker 3>Like Clemson would do enough to where sometimes they would

518
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<v Speaker 3>run through the ACC and then they would get to

519
00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:21.200
<v Speaker 3>the College Football Playoff and they'd win because they're Clemson

520
00:24:21.319 --> 00:24:24.119
<v Speaker 3>in that in that era, but anybody else, like who

521
00:24:24.119 --> 00:24:27.720
<v Speaker 3>else in the ACC has had really good years where

522
00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:31.680
<v Speaker 3>they're getting some national love, some national relevance because mostly

523
00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:35.079
<v Speaker 3>what they're doing against the league, and then it pays

524
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<v Speaker 3>off to where it's like, wow, what a statement by

525
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<v Speaker 3>the ACC. It just hadn't played out that way. So

526
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<v Speaker 3>you know, I think if you're Louisville, you know, and

527
00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:47.359
<v Speaker 3>by the way, credit to Jeff Brown. You know, he's

528
00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:50.079
<v Speaker 3>tried to get some big time non conference games on

529
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<v Speaker 3>the schedule with teams from the SEC, not including Kentucky,

530
00:24:53.519 --> 00:24:55.640
<v Speaker 3>and they just you know, they don't, they don't, they

531
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<v Speaker 3>don't want to play. And I you know, I don't

532
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<v Speaker 3>really cause when I was, when I was looking and

533
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<v Speaker 3>when I initially when this story broke this morning, I'm

534
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<v Speaker 3>thinking to myself, why does Clemson need to do that?

535
00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:11.039
<v Speaker 3>Because you know, right now, like the way it stands

536
00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:13.039
<v Speaker 3>as of today, going off just the one year we

537
00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:15.400
<v Speaker 3>have with the expanded playoff, the way it's set up, like,

538
00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:19.640
<v Speaker 3>you really don't need to go out and really schedule

539
00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:23.079
<v Speaker 3>really tough in the non conference because are you really

540
00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:24.039
<v Speaker 3>going to get credit for it?

541
00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Right?

542
00:25:24.680 --> 00:25:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Because if you know, for for a while it's been

543
00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:28.799
<v Speaker 3>we'll look, if you win your you win your conference,

544
00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:32.160
<v Speaker 3>then you're in. Well now they're you know, the auto

545
00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:34.480
<v Speaker 3>bids as far as getting in if you win your league.

546
00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:36.480
<v Speaker 3>That's still on the table as far as the discussion.

547
00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:40.480
<v Speaker 3>But rightfully so the scenario where the top four seeds

548
00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:43.279
<v Speaker 3>who get buys are just the conference champs.

549
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Like that can't be. That can't be it.

550
00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:48.400
<v Speaker 3>So I think you're gonna see some decisions as far

551
00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:53.559
<v Speaker 3>as scheduling moving forward that give programs like Clemson's done

552
00:25:53.559 --> 00:25:56.759
<v Speaker 3>here a little bit of landing room regardless of how

553
00:25:56.799 --> 00:25:59.839
<v Speaker 3>this shakes out, right, because I mean, I think it's

554
00:25:59.839 --> 00:26:02.359
<v Speaker 3>a areas because the SEC you know, for as arrogant

555
00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:05.559
<v Speaker 3>as they are, they don't do anything out of conference.

556
00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:08.519
<v Speaker 3>They beat up on each other, and that doesn't prove

557
00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:12.519
<v Speaker 3>that they're not like they're not the best league. But

558
00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:18.759
<v Speaker 3>they also like they won't schedule non conference games unless

559
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:21.960
<v Speaker 3>they're guaranteed a certain amount of auto bids to the playoff,

560
00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:25.400
<v Speaker 3>which you know, it's just it's Sankee doing what. Like

561
00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Sankie's the commissioner of the Southeastern Conference. So literally everything

562
00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:32.119
<v Speaker 3>he's throwing out there, everything he proposes, every bit of

563
00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:36.160
<v Speaker 3>his role is to look out specifically for his conference.

564
00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:38.640
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't fault him for that at all. I mean,

565
00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:43.039
<v Speaker 3>that's literally his job. That's like an agent. If you

566
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<v Speaker 3>know your client's got a great deal and a great

567
00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:49.440
<v Speaker 3>salary and a couple of years ago by like you're

568
00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:51.000
<v Speaker 3>probably going to think, well, I gotta try to get

569
00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:53.599
<v Speaker 3>him more because that's what I'm paid to do. That's

570
00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:58.440
<v Speaker 3>how I'm incentivized. So you know, I just the college

571
00:26:58.440 --> 00:27:03.359
<v Speaker 3>football layoffs future is not like in doubt we're gonna

572
00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:07.880
<v Speaker 3>have it. But the discussions going on most recently at

573
00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:11.200
<v Speaker 3>this college football Playoff spring meeting that took place in Dallas.

574
00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Whatever comes out of this is gonna be like a

575
00:27:14.039 --> 00:27:16.000
<v Speaker 3>big deal, and it's just tough to know exactly what

576
00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:21.759
<v Speaker 3>transpires because I think guaranteeing a certain amount of spots

577
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:26.359
<v Speaker 3>per conference is stupid as hell because you just never know,

578
00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:30.400
<v Speaker 3>even if it's unrealistic or if it's something that's never

579
00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:34.920
<v Speaker 3>been done before. It is insane to think that, Okay, automatically,

580
00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:39.400
<v Speaker 3>in this expanded playoff that includes fourteen teams instead of twelve,

581
00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:42.640
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna give four guaranteed to the SEC and four

582
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<v Speaker 3>to the Big Ten. Who's to say that the Big

583
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<v Speaker 3>Ten may fall off the cliff and be the worst

584
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:50.680
<v Speaker 3>league in the world. You're gonna tell me we're putting

585
00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:56.279
<v Speaker 3>thirty roughly thirty percent of the of the of the

586
00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:58.480
<v Speaker 3>event is going to feature teams that stink. And again

587
00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:00.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying that that's realistic about that's gonna happen,

588
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:04.119
<v Speaker 3>but this is a step in the direction of like

589
00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:08.359
<v Speaker 3>truly not making about if you if you guarantee certain

590
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:12.319
<v Speaker 3>spots per conference, or if you do something unheard of,

591
00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:14.240
<v Speaker 3>which no way they'll ever do it, but it was

592
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:18.319
<v Speaker 3>at least thrown out there, and that's the TV viewership

593
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:21.519
<v Speaker 3>being a factor and how you get in any anything

594
00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:25.640
<v Speaker 3>in that lane, especially especially, but also just guaranteeing spots

595
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:29.359
<v Speaker 3>based off your league. That is the full blown confirmation

596
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:33.039
<v Speaker 3>that that you know, you're operating with the mindset that

597
00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:37.240
<v Speaker 3>results don't matter. And I think people are already operating

598
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:39.880
<v Speaker 3>with that, and that's why you had so many people.

599
00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>You can't tell me we're not one of the twelve

600
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:44.000
<v Speaker 1>best teams in the country.

601
00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:46.839
<v Speaker 3>You didn't you didn't show that, you didn't do that,

602
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:53.039
<v Speaker 3>you didn't get those results at all. Therefore you're not

603
00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:56.079
<v Speaker 3>one of the twelve best. Like that's like saying teams

604
00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:59.880
<v Speaker 3>who missed the like Kansas Jayhawk basketball this year, biggest

605
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:03.519
<v Speaker 3>best roster, most expensive roster. They lost in the first

606
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:11.880
<v Speaker 3>round that ten seeded John Caliperi. So with that, like

607
00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:14.799
<v Speaker 3>do we think, Okay, well, you know you can't, but

608
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:16.799
<v Speaker 3>you can't tell me Kansas sit in elite with Hunter

609
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:20.319
<v Speaker 3>Dickinson and you know all those guys Bill self, Like,

610
00:29:20.359 --> 00:29:22.240
<v Speaker 3>come on, now, you can't tell me they're not, so

611
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:23.799
<v Speaker 3>let's just go and throw them in the final. For me,

612
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:26.119
<v Speaker 3>it's Kansas Like that that sounds.

613
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Crazy, right, That's what people are.

614
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:30.680
<v Speaker 3>That's the same rhetoric you're hearing when it comes to

615
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:35.039
<v Speaker 3>the college football argument. And I mean, I know I

616
00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:38.279
<v Speaker 3>sound like poor ACC guy, but look, I've been clear,

617
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:40.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't give a damn about the ACC. I hope

618
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:42.319
<v Speaker 3>it does well because that, you know, vodes well for

619
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<v Speaker 3>Louisville because clearly how good your conferences is a big

620
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:46.799
<v Speaker 3>factor and the kind of respect that you get and

621
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<v Speaker 3>the opportunities that you have.

622
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>But liked, ACC has been.

623
00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:52.359
<v Speaker 3>Falling off a cliff and basketball in recent years, and

624
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:53.960
<v Speaker 3>in football, I do think it took a little bit

625
00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:55.640
<v Speaker 3>of a step in the right direction last year. But

626
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:58.079
<v Speaker 3>like I've never acted like the ACC's great, but that's

627
00:29:58.079 --> 00:29:58.440
<v Speaker 3>not what.

628
00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:03.160
<v Speaker 1>This is about. Like the like for example, South Carolina last.

629
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<v Speaker 3>Year, they are actually they're probably the best example to

630
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<v Speaker 3>give you because you know, South Carolina, they were one

631
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:14.759
<v Speaker 3>of those where you can't tell me that we're not

632
00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:17.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, we're not one of the twelve best teams,

633
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<v Speaker 3>and they were basing that just off of the fact

634
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<v Speaker 3>that they played. They had they had a good record

635
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:28.119
<v Speaker 3>in a really good league. However, I mean, you didn't,

636
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<v Speaker 3>like you went nine and four, right, like your your

637
00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:35.519
<v Speaker 3>losses are to lsu Ole miss by a billion. You

638
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:39.680
<v Speaker 3>lost Tobama, like you know you beat some good teams

639
00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:42.319
<v Speaker 3>along the way, but like you just would be in,

640
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<v Speaker 3>Like South Carolina would have been the team that just

641
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<v Speaker 3>got in because of their league and no other data

642
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<v Speaker 3>point or resume win that like puts them there. Their

643
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<v Speaker 3>best win was against who I mean, I'm I'm looking,

644
00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:00.559
<v Speaker 3>Their best win was a thirty four to thirty victory

645
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:04.000
<v Speaker 3>over Missouri, or you could say their best win and

646
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:05.519
<v Speaker 3>this is where this is where it would get where

647
00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:10.160
<v Speaker 3>it would get real rich because objectively speaking, again, their

648
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:14.440
<v Speaker 3>losses aren't aren't too bad teams, but their wins are

649
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:17.079
<v Speaker 3>like they went nine and four and felt like, I mean,

650
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:19.200
<v Speaker 3>come on, nine and four overall five and three in

651
00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:19.839
<v Speaker 3>the SEC.

652
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:22.279
<v Speaker 1>You can't tell me we're not one.

653
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:24.160
<v Speaker 3>And the only reason I keep saying that is because

654
00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:26.960
<v Speaker 3>both Lane Kiffin, who was kind of foolish and hilarious

655
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:29.880
<v Speaker 3>actually for him to tout that when he lost at

656
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:31.880
<v Speaker 3>home to a Kentucky team that did not beat another

657
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:34.720
<v Speaker 3>SEC team, like you like, Lane's going to be Lane,

658
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:38.200
<v Speaker 3>but like that's hilarious to actually think that you would

659
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:40.519
<v Speaker 3>not need to be held accountable for that disastrous loss

660
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:42.519
<v Speaker 3>with really no other wins that would that would make

661
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:46.640
<v Speaker 3>up for that so last year South Carolina went nine

662
00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:56.440
<v Speaker 3>and four overall wins Old Dominion, Kentucky, Akron, Oklahoma, Texas,

663
00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:03.799
<v Speaker 3>A M, Vandy, Missouri, Clemson. You could make the case

664
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Clemson is their best win. So if you're gonna be

665
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:10.400
<v Speaker 3>one of these SEC teams, that's just making it all about, well,

666
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:12.200
<v Speaker 3>come on, we can't be held at the same standard.

667
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:16.119
<v Speaker 3>We play in a real league with real teams. You

668
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:18.319
<v Speaker 3>didn't beat any of those real teams you're talking about,

669
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:21.720
<v Speaker 3>and your best win is against a team that comes

670
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:24.000
<v Speaker 3>from a league that you think is inferior that you

671
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:28.960
<v Speaker 3>barely beat. I mean, I'm sure I'm more you know,

672
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:32.880
<v Speaker 3>focused on this than others. But whatever comes of these

673
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:34.920
<v Speaker 3>meetings that are taking place in the offseason about the

674
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<v Speaker 3>future of college football is going to be a big,

675
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:39.960
<v Speaker 3>big deal. And as much as I think this past

676
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:42.559
<v Speaker 3>year was, I mean, what happened this past year was

677
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:45.000
<v Speaker 3>there was a realization that won you shouldn't just get

678
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:48.680
<v Speaker 3>in if you win your conference championship game, because that really,

679
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:51.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, not every conference is created equally, right, But

680
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:54.519
<v Speaker 3>that also like there's now so many teams in these

681
00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:58.640
<v Speaker 3>leagues that like, it is damn near impossible for you

682
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<v Speaker 3>to put together a schedule ahead of time and know

683
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:04.599
<v Speaker 3>if it's gonna be a good enough schedule to make,

684
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, to make a big, good enough impression. Like

685
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:10.200
<v Speaker 3>for example, Indiana, And I'm not gonna defending them like

686
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:12.440
<v Speaker 3>they were, you know, great and got picked on. But

687
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:15.160
<v Speaker 3>Indiana last year they rolled through their schedule, did they not?

688
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:22.039
<v Speaker 3>They played and beat the defending national champions Right?

689
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Who else did they beat? Like Indiana?

690
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:29.119
<v Speaker 3>Like they they lost to Ohio State, And you know,

691
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:32.000
<v Speaker 3>I know the Michigan win wasn't wasn't really all that

692
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:34.400
<v Speaker 3>impressive in the grand scheme of things, But like nobody

693
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:35.200
<v Speaker 3>knows that ahead of time.

694
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:37.640
<v Speaker 1>That's who's on the schedule. They just won the national championship.

695
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:43.000
<v Speaker 3>So you know, like I don't know how you fix that,

696
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:45.319
<v Speaker 3>because year in and year out, there's just gonna be

697
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:47.799
<v Speaker 3>teams that their scheduled that the league gives them based

698
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:50.640
<v Speaker 3>off of just random I don't know, flipping a coin.

699
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:53.119
<v Speaker 3>However the schedule is set up, is gonna give one

700
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:56.000
<v Speaker 3>team a better ability to find themselves in that playoff

701
00:33:56.039 --> 00:33:58.880
<v Speaker 3>than others. And that's just that at this point that

702
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:04.200
<v Speaker 3>just seems kind of unavoidable. Yeah, so they beat let's

703
00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:07.960
<v Speaker 3>see I felt like there was one other, one other

704
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:12.559
<v Speaker 3>win that, like in real time, wasn't that impressive. But yeah,

705
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:15.400
<v Speaker 3>it was it Washington that got to the championship game

706
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:20.000
<v Speaker 3>before Calen de Bor left. It didn't Michigan beat Washington

707
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:22.960
<v Speaker 3>the National Championship or did I dreamed that they? They?

708
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:24.280
<v Speaker 4>They beat Michael Pennix.

709
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's what it was.

710
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:28.159
<v Speaker 3>For some reason, I was still thinking Saving was there,

711
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:32.079
<v Speaker 3>but Savan got beat by Michigan in in that first round.

712
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:32.840
<v Speaker 1>McCarthy.

713
00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:38.199
<v Speaker 3>So Indiana, like imagine telling Indiana on paper last year

714
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:40.320
<v Speaker 3>around this time, and I think everybody expected Washington take

715
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:43.559
<v Speaker 3>a step back because their coach went to Alabama and Harball.

716
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Went to the NFL.

717
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:47.519
<v Speaker 3>But like Indiana got crushed for their schedule, and again

718
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:50.599
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't a strong schedule because of things they can't control.

719
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:56.079
<v Speaker 3>But imagine ahead of time saying you will play two

720
00:34:56.639 --> 00:35:02.239
<v Speaker 3>of your nine conference opponents against two teams that last

721
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:05.239
<v Speaker 3>year played in the National Championship Game.

722
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:07.800
<v Speaker 1>But yet, sorry about your luck.

723
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:09.519
<v Speaker 3>That's just too weak of a schedule, Like you can

724
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:13.320
<v Speaker 3>never predict that, So I don't have a perfect way

725
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:18.199
<v Speaker 3>to do it. But giving away guaranteed number of bids

726
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:21.199
<v Speaker 3>by conference is the clear wrong way to do it.

727
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:23.679
<v Speaker 3>And it's again I think that it would be the

728
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:25.719
<v Speaker 3>first real proof and there's been proof there, but this

729
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:29.079
<v Speaker 3>would be the ultimate realization that they don't care about

730
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:32.679
<v Speaker 3>what you do. It's a popularity contest, it's TV viewership,

731
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:38.400
<v Speaker 3>it's TMZ. Because although it seems completely unrealistic and I

732
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:42.039
<v Speaker 3>can't see a scenario where it happens. However, what happened

733
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:44.639
<v Speaker 3>in this country five years ago, a global pandemic. Nobody

734
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:45.719
<v Speaker 3>saw that coming right.

735
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Shook a lot of the world. Up to this day.

736
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:49.920
<v Speaker 3>There's probably still people that are in a different position

737
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:52.199
<v Speaker 3>in their world now because of that.

738
00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Things change.

739
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:56.320
<v Speaker 3>Never know, but imagine a scenario where one of these

740
00:35:56.400 --> 00:35:59.159
<v Speaker 3>leagues falls off a cliff and they just completely suck.

741
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:03.000
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna guarantee that they get a certain amount of

742
00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:07.679
<v Speaker 3>teams in like it doesn't make any sense. It should

743
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:11.679
<v Speaker 3>always be about what you do, not about what you're

744
00:36:11.719 --> 00:36:15.320
<v Speaker 3>expected to do. And any benefit of the doubt, like

745
00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:18.920
<v Speaker 3>benefit of the benefit anybody getting benefit of the doubt

746
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:20.920
<v Speaker 3>in sports, and it happens, and sometimes it is it

747
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:23.559
<v Speaker 3>is unavoidable. Like Carolina, I think they got the benefit

748
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:25.199
<v Speaker 3>of the doubt bout getting any civil a tournament as

749
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:27.719
<v Speaker 3>the last team probably so probably helped that they their

750
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:31.480
<v Speaker 3>ad was on the on the committee or the president

751
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:33.880
<v Speaker 3>of the committee. But still like benefited. Doubt to an

752
00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:38.559
<v Speaker 3>extent is inevitable in all aspects of life. But in sports,

753
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:42.320
<v Speaker 3>anybody like just wanting that to be a bigger factor,

754
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:45.920
<v Speaker 3>a bigger force. What you're doing is limit Like just

755
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:50.920
<v Speaker 3>why even play Like, eh, you know, like if we

756
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:53.079
<v Speaker 3>do that, then like why even care about upsets anymore?

757
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:54.760
<v Speaker 3>Like why you can play the game, Like because how

758
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:56.199
<v Speaker 3>many times you've seen an upset and you know, the

759
00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:59.000
<v Speaker 3>team that just won in a David Versullia situation, like

760
00:36:59.039 --> 00:36:59.360
<v Speaker 3>you know.

761
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:01.199
<v Speaker 1>They aren't every day going to be able to do that.

762
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:02.840
<v Speaker 1>But that's what makes sports great, right.

763
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:07.760
<v Speaker 3>The unexpectedness, the spontaneousness. If they're slotted positions in the playoff,

764
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:12.239
<v Speaker 3>it'll it'll I don't say it'll ruin college football, but

765
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:16.400
<v Speaker 3>like it just eliminates the ultimate root of what sports

766
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:21.840
<v Speaker 3>is competition, winning and losing results getting you where you

767
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:24.559
<v Speaker 3>want to go or eliminating you from doing what you

768
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:27.599
<v Speaker 3>want to do. It's really not that complicated. So again,

769
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:30.559
<v Speaker 3>just looking at notre dame scheduling or Clemson scheduling Notre Dame.

770
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:32.760
<v Speaker 3>That's just what had me thinking that if you're not,

771
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:34.400
<v Speaker 3>because I have a hard time thinking that the Big

772
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:35.960
<v Speaker 3>ten and the SEC are going to get their way.

773
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:37.239
<v Speaker 1>So if you're in one.

774
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:39.599
<v Speaker 3>Of these other leagues like the SEC, I'm sorry, the

775
00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:41.639
<v Speaker 3>ACC or the Big twelve, like, you're gonna have to

776
00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:44.440
<v Speaker 3>find ways to cause you're not gonna get guaranteed spots.

777
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:47.159
<v Speaker 3>And the scenario where the ACC or the Big twelve

778
00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:50.840
<v Speaker 3>has a.

779
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Big year, we're like, damn, this league's loaded this year.

780
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:52.039
<v Speaker 1>You kidd me.

781
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:56.199
<v Speaker 3>Miami's on fire. Jeff Broms got it rolling with Louisville.

782
00:37:56.519 --> 00:37:59.440
<v Speaker 3>How about Virginia Tech. They finally woke up from the dead.

783
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:03.400
<v Speaker 3>Look at Pittsburgh, they got the best defense in the country.

784
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:07.079
<v Speaker 3>Not to mention, you know, maybe Bill Belichick, maybe he

785
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:11.079
<v Speaker 3>gets rolling, Like although I'm not saying that's like gonna

786
00:38:11.079 --> 00:38:14.440
<v Speaker 3>happen soon, but like if it did, there'll only be

787
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:17.840
<v Speaker 3>two spots in the playoff for the ACC because the

788
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:21.199
<v Speaker 3>Big ten in the SEC are just letting you know, ay, no,

789
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:24.119
<v Speaker 3>we got the you know you got you got some

790
00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:26.239
<v Speaker 3>cute teams there. And again, this is not a conversation

791
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:28.199
<v Speaker 3>about which league is better. But if we're just going

792
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:30.639
<v Speaker 3>to decide moving forward for the rest of time, it's

793
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:33.039
<v Speaker 3>just been dedicated that these leagues get this amount of

794
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:38.840
<v Speaker 3>spots like that that that's stupid, at least in my opinion.

795
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:40.519
<v Speaker 3>It is all right, quick break, we'll come back and

796
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:41.960
<v Speaker 3>wrap at the three o'clock hour. On the other side,

797
00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:43.719
<v Speaker 3>stick around right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>Now back to coffee and company fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Talk seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 1>As we get the four o'clock hours started.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to take a look at Jeff Borzello if

802
00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:57.119
<v Speaker 3>he has I mean, I don't want to. I mean,

803
00:38:57.199 --> 00:38:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Jeff Borzell is actually a pretty good looking god. To

804
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<v Speaker 3>be honest, I didn't mean to say I want to

805
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:01.719
<v Speaker 3>get a look at him, but I'm just saying, like,

806
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:05.239
<v Speaker 3>we'll take a look at his updated rankings at ESPN.

807
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:07.559
<v Speaker 3>He's a college basketball writer for the Four Letter Network

808
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:10.519
<v Speaker 3>and with some moves made, you know, really a lot

809
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:12.920
<v Speaker 3>of the movement made in the portal was pretty early.

810
00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:15.280
<v Speaker 3>In fact, I still feel like the biggest moves made

811
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:18.880
<v Speaker 3>took place before the National Championship game actually happened. But

812
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:21.480
<v Speaker 3>there have been some other big moves made, including some

813
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:25.599
<v Speaker 3>players losing or i'm sorry, teams losing players that they

814
00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:27.920
<v Speaker 3>had counted on. So we'll tell you where Louisville and

815
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:31.280
<v Speaker 3>Kentucky fall as of right now. And I think Louisville

816
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:33.360
<v Speaker 3>they took a hit because you know, they lost James

817
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:35.800
<v Speaker 3>Scott and that's not a big hit and they didn't

818
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:38.760
<v Speaker 3>take a big drop, but clearly that's a guy that

819
00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:42.760
<v Speaker 3>was viewed as a legitimate, nice returning piece that's now

820
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:46.119
<v Speaker 3>not there. As for Kentucky, I mean, I really don't

821
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:47.920
<v Speaker 3>know what would have changed for them, but they also

822
00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:50.199
<v Speaker 3>because there's the thing, if you drop, it may not

823
00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:52.639
<v Speaker 3>because you didn'ything wrong. It's because other teams made moves

824
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:53.920
<v Speaker 3>that just put them ahead of you. And I really

825
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:55.199
<v Speaker 3>think at the end of the day, that's probably what

826
00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:57.280
<v Speaker 3>happened more than any But we'll say you where both

827
00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:01.760
<v Speaker 3>teams locally here currently stand in ESPNS some early rankings.

828
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<v Speaker 3>And look, there are still good players out there. I

829
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:08.400
<v Speaker 3>just kind of feel like at this point, how many

830
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:11.280
<v Speaker 3>are out there that are gonna genuinely change.

831
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<v Speaker 1>How you view a team as far as their ceiling.

832
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:19.679
<v Speaker 3>Also, I mean, we'll always like we could have ten

833
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:24.440
<v Speaker 3>straight years of Kansas happening, meaning you put all your

834
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:29.559
<v Speaker 3>money into this roster, paid more than any program in

835
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:32.199
<v Speaker 3>the country did for their roster, you bring back all

836
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:34.760
<v Speaker 3>Americans like they did in Hunter Dickinson.

837
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<v Speaker 1>And yet it just doesn't work. We could have that

838
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:38.840
<v Speaker 1>happen every year.

839
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:42.960
<v Speaker 3>But I'm telling you, man, the height machine in college basketball,

840
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:46.960
<v Speaker 3>no matter what, we'll never just we'll never have the mindset.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, we'll see. Yeah, they got a lot

842
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<v Speaker 1>of pieces, but how's it gonna work? Man?

843
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:53.599
<v Speaker 3>They got a good roster, but you know, how are

844
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:57.119
<v Speaker 3>these egos gonna blend? And those are legitimate questions. But like,

845
00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:59.000
<v Speaker 3>if you see a team on paper that looks like

846
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:02.280
<v Speaker 3>they could be special, they're gonna always be propped up.

847
00:41:03.159 --> 00:41:06.000
<v Speaker 3>But again just a reminder, and look, there's certain teams

848
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:07.920
<v Speaker 3>they ended up being really good, and we can sit

849
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:10.039
<v Speaker 3>back and say, yeah, we saw that coming. They were

850
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:13.800
<v Speaker 3>really good, right, they did what was expected. But you

851
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:15.519
<v Speaker 3>should always keep in mind as well that there are

852
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:18.280
<v Speaker 3>teams that you know, you just don't know how like Indiana.

853
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:22.000
<v Speaker 3>They never got a ton of preseason hype as far

854
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:23.519
<v Speaker 3>as being like, you know, top ten.

855
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:25.559
<v Speaker 1>But I still say this to this day.

856
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:28.039
<v Speaker 3>Indiana had a good roster. They paid good money for it.

857
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:30.280
<v Speaker 3>I think they fell flat on I think they paid

858
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:33.519
<v Speaker 3>big for guards that clearly just couldn't couldn't adjust to

859
00:41:33.559 --> 00:41:36.960
<v Speaker 3>a higher level in the Big Ten. But like they

860
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:40.000
<v Speaker 3>were a mess. I mean, Indiana getting beat the way

861
00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:42.519
<v Speaker 3>they did by Louisville and the Bahamas was a beautiful

862
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:45.039
<v Speaker 3>thing to see, just to be honest with you, but

863
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:49.320
<v Speaker 3>it should have never happened. But you don't just win

864
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:52.440
<v Speaker 3>because you went out and bought a big roster with

865
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:55.199
<v Speaker 3>great players. You gotta get the pieces that fed And

866
00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:57.480
<v Speaker 3>that's just that's one of the new ways of that's

867
00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:00.159
<v Speaker 3>one of the new wrinkles here in college basketball. Guess

868
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:01.519
<v Speaker 3>I should say one of the new wrinkles of the

869
00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:04.840
<v Speaker 3>of the portal element that I think is gonna be

870
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:08.400
<v Speaker 3>more beneficial is that we'll see continua. We'll continue to

871
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:12.360
<v Speaker 3>see examples of teams that you thought they had all

872
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:14.639
<v Speaker 3>the talent needed, but the pieces just didn't fit. It

873
00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:17.360
<v Speaker 3>just didn't align. And there's no way to know if

874
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:19.840
<v Speaker 3>that if that's gonna work until you know you get

875
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:21.880
<v Speaker 3>out there and play like coaches are going to try.

876
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:24.119
<v Speaker 1>To get a feel for a player's.

877
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:28.960
<v Speaker 3>I guess selflessness, right, will he will he be willing

878
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:30.800
<v Speaker 3>to come in as a new guy and embrace whatever

879
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:33.400
<v Speaker 3>roles needed for the greater good of the team, or

880
00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:35.360
<v Speaker 3>is he a guy that's that's here and he wants

881
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:38.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, for example, PJ Haggerty leaving Memphis, I mean

882
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:40.880
<v Speaker 3>he wanted four million dollars and a guarantee that he's

883
00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:44.280
<v Speaker 3>going to be the starting point guard. Like kids talented,

884
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:46.599
<v Speaker 3>But is I mean, like you think that's gonna be

885
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:47.480
<v Speaker 3>good for your locker room?

886
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Right?

887
00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:51.639
<v Speaker 3>So that's that excites me because yeah, there's gonna be

888
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:54.320
<v Speaker 3>some teams that look really good on paper, but I'm

889
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:55.760
<v Speaker 3>always going to think back to my mind, like you

890
00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:58.719
<v Speaker 3>just don't know how it's gonna work, And coaches can

891
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:04.360
<v Speaker 3>do every bit of crossing t's dotting eyes and still

892
00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:06.159
<v Speaker 3>just not knowing until they get out there and you

893
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:08.519
<v Speaker 3>see how all these how all of it works together.

894
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:12.719
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I wouldn't say I have any fear about.

895
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:15.400
<v Speaker 1>But when it comes to Louisville, I.

896
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:19.519
<v Speaker 3>Really do believe that one of the biggest factors in

897
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:23.719
<v Speaker 3>them the team being able to kind of salvage what

898
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:26.679
<v Speaker 3>seemed to be like I remember doing the show right

899
00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:31.559
<v Speaker 3>after the the acc SEC challenge when Louisville got mopped

900
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:36.360
<v Speaker 3>by Ole Miss, and I remember thinking to myself, all right,

901
00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:38.079
<v Speaker 3>that wasn't a good look, but I still think there's

902
00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:39.719
<v Speaker 3>some pieces here to where this team might be able

903
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:42.199
<v Speaker 3>to sniff the tournament. And I got bombarded with like

904
00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:46.559
<v Speaker 3>you were alrighty, your mind, your delusional, your cardboy home

905
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:49.599
<v Speaker 3>homer and full effect here, and I'm like, I'm not

906
00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:52.000
<v Speaker 3>saying they're going to be great, but like they're playing

907
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:55.400
<v Speaker 3>good teams. And they ended up this isn't and I

908
00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:57.199
<v Speaker 3>told you some moment, but they ended up obviously putting

909
00:43:57.199 --> 00:43:58.679
<v Speaker 3>together a pretty good season and they played some really

910
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:02.480
<v Speaker 3>good basketball for a good chunk of it. And there's

911
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:04.880
<v Speaker 3>a lot of components that went into that forward to work,

912
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:06.880
<v Speaker 3>but I really think one of the most important ones

913
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:10.320
<v Speaker 3>was that these guys they did work really well together.

914
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:14.199
<v Speaker 3>Like there was no ego, there was no jealousy. It

915
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:17.239
<v Speaker 3>was really just, hey, whatever we got to do to win,

916
00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:19.079
<v Speaker 3>and you always.

917
00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:21.599
<v Speaker 1>Want that, but that's not as easy to obtain.

918
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:24.719
<v Speaker 3>So what I'm getting at is like Louisville could have

919
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:30.599
<v Speaker 3>a team that is maybe more talented, with better potential,

920
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:33.559
<v Speaker 3>more pro upside as far as the pieces and the personnel,

921
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:37.000
<v Speaker 3>and they could play you know, a much tougher schedule

922
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:40.760
<v Speaker 3>and not have nearly as good of a record and

923
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:42.760
<v Speaker 3>it not work out. Because again, like I just think

924
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:46.159
<v Speaker 3>last year was the perfect storm, and I say that knowing, yes,

925
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:47.440
<v Speaker 3>how could it be the perfect storm? They had a

926
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:49.000
<v Speaker 3>bunch of injuries and it seemed as if they never

927
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:51.559
<v Speaker 3>got to even play as the team that Pat Kelsey bill,

928
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:53.559
<v Speaker 3>which all that's true, but after that, that's when it

929
00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:56.360
<v Speaker 3>just kind of you know, they never felt sorrd for themselves.

930
00:44:56.960 --> 00:45:00.119
<v Speaker 3>They never worried about individual accolades. They just bought in,

931
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:05.280
<v Speaker 3>played hard and one and competed at a high level.

932
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:06.800
<v Speaker 3>And they were a reflection of the guy that was

933
00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:10.079
<v Speaker 3>coaching him on the sideline. And I hope that that's

934
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:13.679
<v Speaker 3>easy to replicate. But we just don't know, you know

935
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:16.800
<v Speaker 3>what I mean. Like that's why last year was so special,

936
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:17.360
<v Speaker 3>because like I.

937
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Remember thinking, like, this is fun as hell. I don't

938
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:20.599
<v Speaker 1>know how good this team is.

939
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:21.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't really know how they stack up with the

940
00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:24.000
<v Speaker 3>best teams in the country, but man, they're gonna fight

941
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:28.119
<v Speaker 3>and they're gonna play hard, and that's always the expectation.

942
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:32.880
<v Speaker 3>But obviously we had fallen far below expectation in recent years.

943
00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:35.280
<v Speaker 3>All right, quick break, we got two more were actually

944
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:36.800
<v Speaker 3>I lied. We got an hour and a half because

945
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:38.159
<v Speaker 3>we got to get a little bit early today because

946
00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:38.760
<v Speaker 3>the Louisville bads.

947
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:39.320
<v Speaker 1>But that's okay.

948
00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:42.480
<v Speaker 3>We'll make the most of these next ninety minutes or so,

949
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:44.599
<v Speaker 3>so keep it locked. It's coffee and company. We are

950
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<v Speaker 3>fueled by Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety
