Speaker 1: Hello, Hello guys, welcome back to another episode of Bravo.
We're black. Keya is not with us today, but I
am holding it down with my girl Mani, and I'm
so happy to have her. Last time, I think I
was on your podcast. Yeah, and we talked about some stuff.
I think we got into Housewives of Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we definitely got into the house I was of Atlanta.
We had us a nice little key key over on
the pod. But you know, and Atlanta is given. It's
it's definitely working. And you guys, and TV is firing
a lot like right now.
Speaker 1: It is. It is and you guys make sure to
check out the mix with Mani for more of her
content on Housewives stuff. You cover everything. You're covering Love
Island as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's working, she's working, she's watching TV, but she
works exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: And you know, we're here to talk about the Love
Island Movie Night. This is I've been waiting for it,
like throughout all these episodes, I'm like, okay, the last
one I'd say before movie Night got pretty good because
like some things are unfolding in front of us. We
have the KC and A, now your drama. We have
all the other stuff going on in the house. We
have Kenzie playing fucking musical cheers with these niggas on
the lips.
Speaker 2: She kissing anybody? Is she for her up here? For everybody?
I was quite pleased with this episode, and you're right,
we got a lot going on.
Speaker 1: Lot to discust.
Speaker 2: I was very and we'll get there, but I was
very happy to see jenerin for shit. She needed it,
she needed it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, get it, absolutely, get it again, get
us for me, get it for me. But you know what,
we can start it off with that too, because that
literally happened at the beginning of the episode. What were
your thoughts on Jen and Kada, I'm sorry, not Jen
and Kata, Jen and this whole situation that they have
going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I listen. I actually felt really bad. Well, what's
his name, Dylan? All these white boys start blurring together
for me with the curly hair, But I'm rooting for
some of them, right. I was feeling bad for Dylan
because he was client the episode before, because you know,
she out here kissing everybody. And you know, even though
we knew that Jin and Gal are like not necessarily
compatible in that way, but they are like open exploring
or whatever, which I love that separative but in a
couple of hilarious to me, but also show some fucking
respect because even though we knew that jamayrol Jen did
not take kindly to her friend Kinsey being the last
one to come and tell her that she was out
here kissing on her. Dude, I completely understood where gen
was coming from. I know the job is to explore
and all these things, but like when jensaid, I wouldn't
represent you outside of here, that made it a one hundred
percent sense to me. She's like the way you move,
I feel like you're being transparent because you know you
had to come and tell me. It got back to
me because villas small as shit. You know that's the
only reason why. But otherwise you move them kind of funny.
But you got a whole man, and you over here
kissing somebody else's man because you don't know what you
want to do. But we've been doing this with Kinsey
all season, so I'm just like, it's giving greed. It is,
it's given a little bit of a breed. We gotta roll
back back, and I'm glad that she got some consequences
or realize that her actions have consequences because they affect
other people. And so I was living for Jim Russell
the shit out of Kenzy sam mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I was too. Now do you feel that Kinsey would
have if, like say, for instance, word did not get
around in the villa and it was just between you.
Don't think that Kensey would have pulled Gin to the
side of her chat and told.
Speaker 2: Her no, Okay, I don't think that she. I think
she thought she did what she had to do with
telling Dylan. I think that that girl Kenzy is has
the kind of entitlement growing up. It is not just
the money entitlement, and the privilege is not just in
It's not in money. It says, she's never really had
to like answer for her actions, but she don't get
a lot of consequences. So I think it was already
so hard for her to tell Dylan and have that
reaction go the way it did that in her mind
she was just like wow, like I I've done enough.
And I don't think she would have even kept exploring either.
But I also don't think she would have told Jen
unless either word got around or producers or somebody was
already like she already knows and not from you, because again,
this villa small as should so I think she should
have told Dylan and then Jin almost immediately or vice versa.
You are in a friendship with Jen, tell her straight
up and didn't tell Dylan and deal with the fallout.
But I don't think she likes dealing with hard conversations
or like hard things, so she didn't want to do that.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I agree, and I think that
we're seeing I notice every time Kinsey is approached with
like something, or whenever she stirs some shit and somebody
calls her out for it, she just gets really quiet
throughout the episode and she just kind of goes into
this hermit crab mode. But it's like, take accountability for
the shit that you're doing. That's all it really stand
on it like, don't stop trying to make people feel
bad for you, and really focus on you know what
I fucked up? And I kind of understand why Jen
is upset with me right now, but I feel like
instead she turned it into this whole thing where it's like,
oh my gosh, Jen said this horrible stuff where she
wouldn't be friends with me outside of the villa and
feel sorry for me type of thing, and it is.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't either, Yeah, but you can tell that Ken
is like not used to having consequences or owning up
to her actions. And also something I've noticed of this younger,
these young people on this show. Maybe it's a culture
little thing look for the for the youth, but definitely
on this past they think that like being open and
honest is all you have to do, and that that's
like all we're gonna do, and we're gonna, oh, thank
you for telling me. I really appreciate it. No, Sometimes
there are also like the options for every action, babes,
it is not enough that you just told Dylan Origin
that you kissed Gal. They're allowed to have feelings behind
it and you still have to tell them. All of
these things are things you're supposed to consider before you
go kissing all random niggas, Like that's the whole vibe,
and you know what you act, so you don't have
to like backtrack, apologize, be told your piece of shit
what you know?
Speaker 1: There are options, and you know what, You're so right
about that, because we see that with Corbin, we see
that with Casey, we see that with all these guys
where they don't do something really Yeah, well, I was
honest with you. I did tell you about this. I
was honest, even though it's sincere as like halfway on this.
He never He's never fully truthful about shit. He tells
you what he wants them.
Speaker 2: Why did the name him? It was setting them in
up for failure. He is insincere for the rest of
his days. To me, but you're right, but he does
the same thing. They all be like, but I told you,
and I'm being honest right now, or I'm choosing to
be honest right now, as if that's the feat the
standing though I'm supposed to get it. No, babe, that's
not how that works. Kenzy really want to do you know?
I pissed him like one time? Was it a kiss
for makeout? It was the makeout. It's pinky and chief
h like girl with the hard ship. I don't know she.
Speaker 1: Does not want to do that. But I also want
to get in Gal's ass too, because I feel like
mister Mustache, we're saying a lot of bullshit, like him
telling Jen oh, I'm not touchy Philly, I'm not like this,
I'm not like that, and then he's another way with Kenzy,
which is kind of showing me that either he's more
attracted to Kenzie or I think ultimately what I believe
is that he's not interested in both of those girls.
Speaker 2: Thank you and let me let me do you one better.
I don't think here's the interested in either one either.
I really do think that she liked hopping back and
forth and that's when they caught her eyes out on it.
She likes having a two worn one, like she likes
being in a predicament of love, for instance. And I
think that she don't really like Gal that much and
God don't really like her that much. But there's the
less there. They like the concept of like exploring and
that and them doing that right. So I just don't
think that Tennessey or Gal are really exploring for the
right reasons because they felt a connection. She's like, I
just want to see if there was one there, so
I had to kiss them? That isntcorrect?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And when she said that too, I was like,
so you have to kiss the nigga kind of understand
whether or not you really want them in that way,
like you're serious.
Speaker 2: About STIs before you before you? Sure? Girl.
Speaker 1: That's especially with these challenges where everybody's putting each other's
toes in their mouth and.
Speaker 2: Hearing I'm having a hard time. And I didn't know
I was a drummer phobe. I thought I wasn't. I
thought I was like Lucy Goosey. I work in the
class for them, but this eeven I have been like
what they got the in about it? On the side,
are they topping the ship?
Speaker 1: Like? What is going on?
Speaker 2: Like? They are licking all previces, nooks and crannies of
each other's toes, beetles, ankles, elbows, like I'm just like
putting cake on it too. They're just putting like stuff everywhere.
Speaker 1: And I often wonder too when they do those challenges
with the cakes, I'm like, there is the cake actually good?
Because I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I don't feel like that was the lowest total pole.
But if it acts gently get to my face and
it's bad cake, I'm gonna have an attitude to be honest.
Speaker 1: Give me a public's cake, but.
Speaker 2: Honestly, girl and that bitch and she accepted. But if
you're gonna, if the goal is to hit me in
the face with a cake, make that cake taste good.
I like cake. I don't I'll do better in the challenge. Actually,
I have three clam slam splits.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing that I really enjoy with Kimsey
at this point. And I do hope that she's serious
with Dylan. That's the one thing I hope that she's
able to commit. But I another man will be in
this villa. I do fear.
Speaker 2: I do fear as soon as Kensey is like, I
want to just consider exploring you. Look, you made that
man cry. I was sad for him. I was like,
oh damn, Kennedy.
Speaker 1: See that's the thing.
Speaker 2: She she kind of operated like the men, And you know,
if you look at the way movie now is going,
like she's kind of operated like think like do it first,
feels first, think or consequences later if there are any.
If I can manage to not get any, that's even better.
So I think she you know, I hope that when
she has with Dylan is real. But she's like the
iris or whatever to me of this season. I just
don't really see her walking away with like any long
term connection or relationships. She for damn sure not winning.
That's a that's a rap. So she's kind of just
here for moral support of the girls. For me, and
that she's not a bad girls girl in disregard.
Speaker 1: I do like her for that, like in her role
with like the Core for I think that she does
a great job defending the girls, like when she's not
sidetracked with making everybody feel bad for her, she's like, Okay, right,
you know what, you got my girls fucked up. Now
let's get into the meet and Brigettos the movie nine,
we start off child, we start off with Zach, which
I'm like, Okay, I didn't know if I wanted to
start off with Zach, but after whatever had after everything
that happened, I was like, Okay, this was actually a
great choice because we're saying I also.
Speaker 2: Think it was strategic. I think it was strategic because
of how big and long Casey's package was. For instance,
we have to remember that Zach's passa experience was technically
cutched short because Alana was kicked out of the house.
And I think they showed Zach first because they wanted
to be like he had a connection with that girl
until she had to go, which it would have made
it seem like there just was no more connection because
there was no more footage unless you see someone else's package.
Right after that, it realized she was gone.
Speaker 1: The yeah, and that's the thing, you know what. And
that's the thing that It was surprising to me too,
because I didn't really expect him to go into that,
and I wasn't sure if they were gonna address her
leaving Novilla, and I thought it was gonna be kind
of one of those things where Zach got away with
that and he was just like, well, I chose you
keda and that's just that. But that was something that
was pissing me all thinking about. Yeah, it was because
I knew I had a feeling. I said, Okay, if
not on the show, I feel like when the reunion comes,
they'll probably address it there. And maybe they're saving that
for the.
Speaker 2: Reason I figured. But no, they were like, we're gonna
let her way to break the fourth wall, and they
were leting, no, we're gonna let her figure it out.
So I think they needed to show Zach could be like,
not only does she can have a great connection. The
story only ends there because it had to not because
he wanted it to. In fact, look at this next
one where Casey is still acting out at the next
recouple and or whatever and all they have sown of Zuck.
Is him making out and lifing Alana and like con
necting in bonding with her in a way to let
me believe that he was actually straight. I will admit
that I was like, I didn't think that Zach was
into women until he didn't meet Alana, and I was like, Oh,
he just hasn't found this woman yet. A lot comes
out to be a racist god comes back to Kata.
I'm like, oh, that was a real like default coupling.
But Kaya caught it.
Speaker 1: She caught it. That girl met I was like, is
she a Bravo fan? Because she clocked shit? Is she
like on TV?
Speaker 2: Immediately?
Speaker 1: And then just starts stewing and you can see the
wilds turn. You didn't give talk about anything else that
was going on, And I love that, and I also
agree with you because when we were first watching this show,
I was like, Zach and Bryce are probably getting a
couple of towards the end. That's what I was thinking away,
That's what I was thinking. But maybe it's the thing
because a lot of people are saying like, oh, they're
probably just gay baiting for views, and maybe that's what
it is. So I'm kind of thinking that that's but
I don't know. It's just so realistic.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, you couldn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know too many.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's because I hang around. I don't have a
lot of let's say, straight white male friends, so I'm
thinking culturally there could be a slight difference.
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Speaker 2: And what we're used to seeing is being like representation
of the straight male culture, like historically I am used
to seeing cases right Like in fact, he's the cleanest
cut type of you know, moving dusty dog nigga that
I that I know. He's very clean cut with it.
So I'm like, I would never know. There are not
very many men that I know, one that could even
quote unquote we would rage bait shit, the gay bait shit.
They wouldn't even be engaging in such if there was
not anything there. And I do understand and know that
by men exists, and I do. And my theory is
that like Bryce at the very least might be and
that's fine. He's a model. He likes beautiful things, men, women, whatever.
I think that is very true. I think he just
likes to he likes. But that what we've been seeing,
I would say is equal parts could being grown. Like
I've seen some romances on this show. We've seen some
romances on this show and other shows. The physicality though
it really is given. Do y'all want to explore? And
I'm not mad at it. In fact, I would like
to see for a queer representation on the show. I
just think we should all call states faith.
Speaker 1: I think that would have been very interesting to see.
And I'm not even sure if that's allowed, Like I
do wonder, say, for instance, if Zach and Bryce were
to couple up, how would that work, Like would that
even be.
Speaker 2: It's not, It's okay. So I feel like Mariana Maddix
is and said right that she, you know, would be
here for more corner representation. She's a bio woman herself.
I as someone who used to watch are You the
one on MTV? The queer season is arguably the best one.
It is insane, okay, so much fun. Anybody could get it.
That was the whole point. But if you are a
conservative like version of watching the you know the love
shows and bikinis and heterosexual relationships. Bachelor and Paradise is
a great example of how it could happen. There was
a girl on there who was trying to date men.
She had come from a Bachelor season, but she had
found a connection with a woman before she went on
the show and she could not stop thinking about her. So,
believe it or not, Who's producer Bachelor Producer Luke said
Gurley out and Gurley joined Bachelor in Paradise and then
her yes, and it was the first like queer couple
and they had her joint so that they could be
a couple. And then like spoiler alert, they didn't make
it in real world, but they did have a nice
ending on the show, I will say, and in real
life that they lasted for a really while, a long while.
I think the girl was just young, demise young, but
like it can, I've seen it done tastefully, even when
we didn't think that they could ever be done. Give
it a go, maybe not this season, but definitely next
season since they then it's so much discourse around it.
I would be curious about that because watching Movie Night again,
I only thought those Zach was into women when seeing
him interact with Alana at the very leing he was
not into Cada enough to me, and I think that's
by Careata clock that like they had a connection and
he came back and not just because he chose her,
and I think that's why he was freaking out, like
what are they going to show and how was she
going to find out that I didn't pick her because
I wanted to. It was literally by the Paul.
Speaker 1: And that's what's so strange about him and Kada. Though.
It's like there are moments, say, for instance, when Zach
came back to the villa, I felt like they were
connected and I could see them as a couple, but
then as things you like when sting's simmer down and
once they get comfortable with each other, it just seems
like that connection isn't all the way there. On Zackson,
I do think that Kada liked Zach a lot, but
I often wonder is it, Like is it because she
just didn't form any other connections that were better in
the VI?
Speaker 2: I think so too. I think that's what made her
so anxious and nervous the entire time, especially during Kappa.
And now, like I agree, I thought that they looked
like a good couple together until like they sat down
when he got back to the villa, and like they
just seem like they just were missing each other in
some ways, like physically, like and now I kind of
get it. I don't think that they have the strongest
I think that they I was shocked when they got
voted in a couple of weeks ago, like as a
couple to stay or being coupled again, And I'm like,
why not? That doesn't make no sense. I don't get it.
I don't see the sparks. I would sooner believe Bryce
and Trinity. And I don't believe that as much as
some of y'all do, but I would believe that before
I would be apprecated.
Speaker 1: Well, let's unpack that. How do you feel about Bryce
and Trinity? What's going through your head when you see them?
Speaker 2: Brenany, I mean, I feel similarly about Bryce as I
do about Zath. I think that if Bryce is super
duper into Trinity, I'm not seeing what y'all are seeing
other than that being just didn't find nobody at CASA
that would keep him interested, and he got worried that
Trinity would because we saw her kissing on that fine
black man in the photo booth. And I think he
just got nervous that his you know, scrawny vanilla cuseel
wasn't going to be enough come back to the villa.
But I think Trinity likes the hell out of Bryce.
That I do think is for sure. I do. I
think she likes him a lot, and I think that
he likes that a lot.
Speaker 1: I do, because I think it makes him feel secure,
like you don't ever have to know about her getting
up and finding somewhere, just because she's so sure of herself.
I think that's one of the biggest things. She's like,
I'm choosing Bryce, that's it. You don't have to worry
about any other man coming in the villa and Trinity
kind of looking over there to see what's what's out
there because she's gonna stay with Brian, especially after all
this bullshit that we've seen. She has to prove a
point now and she can't look shitty to the guy.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I do think that when she was going
off on Casey a bit ago, he was like Bryce
was a little bit turna dooy or he at least
respected the hell out of it and was like, oh,
I like this. He likes some icy. I think Bryce
might be like Zach, but I also think he likes
black women, and I think those two things can be true.
I do. And I think that Trinity is a good
catch that he can take to the end of this show.
Speaker 1: And I like that. I like that.
Speaker 2: I like that for her because I like Trinity a lot. Girl.
Her behavior doing most of these last few episodes have
been some of the gifts that keep on giving. Especially
during this movie night. She's she's eating popcorny entire time
and reading these move or field it's great.
Speaker 1: And Jen has on her reading glasses. I think that
that's what I enjoyed the most about this, because it's like,
this was a really good movie night. Now getting into
nayr NKC situation, we're seeing, Oh that was just it
was bad. I mean it was everything that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but just say we knew it was somehow worse.
So was the montage not worse? To you? Singing it together,
you were like, damn he bolling her out for real.
Speaker 1: Because they connected all the worst parts together, which is
why I love production so much. So good the worst
moment about a little bit maybe too, Yes, I'm like, yes,
I don't remember him going in on her like that.
I do remember the Grandma saying, and surprisingly that did
not offend her as much as I thought that would,
because I thought she would be devastated once she heard
like Grandma, I thought so too.
Speaker 2: I think she was bracing herself because she was already
over him, like she knew he brought back to She
knew that he was a pizza shit. He literally laughed
at her, like seeing Melanie and Melanie picked a NYE
back up the other episode. I think she really went
into this movie night and I did, thinking that she
was going to be able to take it and her
best because she already knew he was a piece of shit.
She don't need to worry about trying to get him
back or maintain his attention. Just breathe to the girl.
My thing was one of the first things that came
out of their mouth. But then they kept progressively getting worse,
but as a pylon, not like he was saying worse things,
but it was just like more and more and more. Also,
you can build a relationship with TT or anybody else
and not talk shit about a nile because we saw
you build a relationship between her, or build a connection
with Sydney and t T I ain't even have a
problem with the see it with the Sydney things. They
were like, Okay. TT didn't seem to have a problem
with it either. She was like, okay, I knew and
maybe an I didn't know. It was more so the
way he had to talk about any it in order
to explore other women is weird.
Speaker 1: And I don't understand why the guys don't get that,
especially Corbin case even TT sometimes as we could see
when she spoke up and she was like, I think
the whole thing is like you formed a connection and
you had your own mom and in the villa, which
we've seen with like any in Carl. But she's not
like it's not clicking that it's not about the actual connection.
She did not care that Casey and TT connected on
that level. It's just like, why do you have to
disrespect me in such a way and belittle me and
like talk down on me to up yourself.
Speaker 2: It's the way they went about it. It is, it's
the way they wanted that he went about it, and
I understood that it was weird. Is some of the
girls even at least the costs of girls they come
in like defitting this bro locker room talk, which always
confuses me because where do you get off. Like Permita
even was like, you know he's the guy. Guys talk,
it's locker room stuff. No, what are you saying? You
sound like a fucking bird, Like you can have a
connection with the man and still kidding you can even
still like Casey and be like, he's never disrespecting me
that way, and he's never talked badly about you.
Speaker 1: To me, this is fucked up.
Speaker 2: I just want you to know that, like he's not
disrespecting me, Like I'm not standing around listening to him
disrespects you. I think that would have went a long
way because we see and Ia literally be like, this
is not about TT or against TT. It's just wild
that it is so much. It was rampant, Like did
you ever like her? Then? If that's how you felt
all this time, you had all that to say in
three freaking days, that's it. But you've been spending like
three weeks with this girl, then you never liked her?
And it was playing and safe speaking all this into
a black woman and you were the it and I'm
speaking life into you, and so she doesn't put it
out and now you have nothing in common and you
hate her. Girl, go hell, go there, go there, listen.
Speaker 1: And starting with the cost of girls, I want to say,
like I feel like sometimes, especially with this season, they
don't really view themselves as viable options like the other
women do. They kind of go into this side bitch mode.
Speaker 2: Like to take a man, and so they'll just take
a man and put up with whatever bullshit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they defend the man once they get
back to the villa, which is what we've seen thet
So I'm like, oh, is that what the cost of
Girls are about? And if so, I kind of wish
that they would change that formula, and I wish that
production would play a bigger role in showing them like, Okay, no,
yes you are costa girls, but if you come back
to this villa, you are like a part of the
villa now, Like so you don't have to necessarily play
that role, and you can explore other connections and you
can do this and that and move around. Because easily,
if the GOSSP girls came back, they could have it
and they felt like it was just too much, or
they felt like the guys weren't being honest with them
and they were being disrespectful. I think that they could
have explored other options as well.
Speaker 2: Yes I need to, And I think either that or
go ahead and lean in big lee on the side
piece narrative, like next season, be like we're bringing girls
in who want to be take one of these girls man.
They think that they would like him better, they have
a better connection, Like let the bombshells be bombshells to tests.
Let the constant girls go on and be the big one,
like be the big test. I would even like to see,
like if we had seen Parmita or tt or something
to come in and say, I'm here to talk to
so and so, I want to talk to Casey or
I want to talk to you here. I really like him.
I think that he'd be great. I at least would
forgive it a little bit better because of the the
temptation island aspect was like, you're here to cause chaos
because you like that person. Send them in as chaos agents.
See which men take de bait, bring them back to
the villa, and then let's go from there. Because making
them just smash. I think it's just not if you
makiss them, if they have the same intention, it doesn't
make sense because even the love the cost of girls, No,
they don't have the same kind of time so to
catch up with deep connections and stuff. I don't think
I think you're right. I don't think they view themselves
as viable options. I think they think that they have
to go for one, go for broke, and hope for
the best. But I'd want to know that part. Then
then I think they're on production, like let me see
the intention has changed, and then I'll watch it. I'll
be all in. I might even rook for a side. Bitch.
Speaker 1: It's so messy, like so I don't want It's like,
on one hand, I don't really want them to do
that because I'm like, no, no, no. But on the
other hand, that's good TV and I would like to
watch it.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's all raty, messy is hell and here
they are and it's really good TV. I mean, my
mouth I found it, but my mouth was on the
ground like open a jar for thirty two minutes during
this movie night. I was like, I really felt like
I had to tell my wife. I said, don't some
popcorn like t T and it's popping in my mouth
and my mom is staying open. Every time they showed
something moth was on the brown, I was like with
Ksey got widder and wild and wild.
Speaker 1: Then they y'all started fighting, and.
Speaker 3: I was like, I loved and look, Casey stood up
and then I said, bitch, why are you standing and.
Speaker 1: Why are you yelling and why are you yelling? I
see that part. I'd love to see because I'm just
like and I also like that Anaya is standing on
business without with not talking to that mean and not
fucking with him. Same with Knsey and Corbin. I love
how Kinsey did that ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't call him that, we get it, say nothing,
say nothing. Corbyn's bod asked, I don't. I don't like
him anymore. I mean, I never liked Corbyn like that,
but he what he and Casey That's the thing they
don't get the fact that the way he was talking
isn't isn't an indicator of how he will do TT
or how he treats women period like that. It's not
a Nyas specific. That's what makes it so egregious is
that you could see y'all have seen even the constant people,
y'all saw the connection that he made with this woman
quote unquote like how he was speaking life and her.
And then we see an entire reel of ten minute
shit of him being an asshole, and then Sincere and
other men going up to h T T and being like,
we've never seen you like this before. He's so good
with you.
Speaker 1: He is so happy happy.
Speaker 2: Is like is he really? I would feel validating it too.
You know, his men are coming up and saying that
when I saw nothing, it was like what they know
and they're saying that they know him and this is
the best, Like, no, it's because of that nurse's outfit
or whatever. Like everybody calmed down.
Speaker 1: It really was not.
Speaker 2: I think they Kasey and Anaya that I'm glad he
got the unedited ten minutes. I really do understand. I
don't we didn't need him to explain himself. I don't
like how the guy's just raandly start explaining themselves as
if anybody asked.
Speaker 1: Them, Like, yeah, that was weird and it's got the
fuck up. We can see that everybody this season. I
feel as far as the guys, what most of them,
I'm not gonna say everybody. And then we have can
Zy moving with lust. Nobody's really to find a genuine connection.
It's just all about well who can even in Ksey,
there is press that the only reason that you weren't
really fucking with Anaya like that is because you weren't
fucking on a Naya. You are fucking on TT and
doing well. I don't know if they had sets yet,
but she's more of a touchy, Philly, my body kissed
all the time type of person, and I think that's
what he wanted and which is why he called the
naya grandma too, yeah, which is so trash.
Speaker 2: It's like, I get that you got a you know,
a young, hot sexy thing in tt now, but you
did not have to dug somebody out on the way out.
You can just have explored that the nutship.
Speaker 1: That's all that and said I think that she is
more suitable for me in this experience.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: That's to do.
Speaker 2: And there is no double standard. It was the fact
that this man threw a Naya away im mediately. That's
the promise of women. She's not the one though, I
ain't coming, but she's out the window, and I think
that is why she was able to be like, you
know what I am going to explore. Uh, it's the
double standard. Y'all are cheering for anaya, yeah, because we
saw how piece of ship like he was moving over
there Agassa, and we were happy that she wasn't go
woman's want off.
Speaker 1: No, she explored, because you made it clear she was
done with And I kind of want them to have
a separate movie night where they really show them what
was shown that first day of the cost of Night,
so they could really understand why Anaya moved the way
she did. Like, I don't think that they're really leaning
too much into that because as we can see with
sinceres footage, we're going back to Seoul, Like no, I
kind of want to.
Speaker 2: We don't want to make sure y'all know we caught
it all.
Speaker 1: I'm happy they did that shit too, because I didn't
expect it. I thought it was gonna be new stuff.
But I seen Soul, I was like, oh, we're we're
going way back when back and then.
Speaker 2: After this out for all of it, like he is.
Speaker 1: The most dire and I've seen in the new footage
that we're gonna see tomorrow because yep, we're not an
Habit episode on Wednesday, but it seems like they're showing
even like the new footage of.
Speaker 2: Now the new footage that's the note what we captured,
it's literally like insincere colon a documentary like these are
the tastes. I was surprised they rolled it back to
Soul because I thought that they already deaded it. I
think they were like, I'm glad to produces clocked in
and like, you know, America is trying to communicate something
to this girl. She's not seen it because he is
a dird liar. He really was lying to these women
like with such ease, and like like such ease, such bravados,
such like it was very it's a little bit creepy
out quickly he's like to he can say with the
same dead pan like tone, one thing, certainly, surely to Melanie,
I'm not into this, I'm not into that, And then
we see all the spootage of salt, same tone, I'm
into you. I'm gonna explore that. I like you. You're definitely
it for me. In another life, I would choose I'm
like Melody didn't stand a chance, and even though she
knew that, she did forgive it without knowing all the information.
And I think we needed to she needed to see
this before she just wrote off what we're about to
see with Amora or whatever as like another temptation, a
sincere temptation, you know what I mean, Like he could
have written off if they had just done the recent stuff,
he could have probably talked his way out of it again.
With Look, I came back single, I came back wanting you,
even though all that was happening, and I still chose you.
That he needed to show Melanie, girl, Melanie that it's
a pattern.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because there was moura if I'm looking back and
I remember it, like, it wasn't that bad compared to
the stuff with Soul. I think it was a lot
more back and forth with Soul than a lot of manipulation,
a lot of lying, you telling Melanie, oh, I don't
really fuck with her like that, and then if you
tell and Soul like, oh I see us actually getting.
Speaker 2: Us. He literally he literally told Melanie at one point,
I'm a gonna tell her that I'm not interested, Like
I'm not gonna floor that. He didn't come back until sundown.
They said, which who breaks up for hours? It don't
take on that so.
Speaker 1: Like, especially in this situation, because it's like it's not
that serious, like this is anything they have an all
night conversation about. Now, if they were together for ten
plus years, then we could, you know, maybe thank you.
Speaker 2: But it was something something that was clocked by the
whole cast. The whole cast was like he was going
all day, Oh that's the girl. Oh that was the
day he was gone until sunset. Oh so for real,
So everybody knew that he could do just out here liing.
So I think that's why they had to do a
two parter on him. Because Melanie is starting to get it.
We saw an Monday Night's episode like she's starting to clit.
Sunday Nights episode when Meghan was heared she was starting
to clit that like, Okay, I think he's not the
most honest sometimes, but unless he get caught her some
And now as we saw him with the first look
for next episode of the part to a movie night
after seeing the soul stuff and then seeing the same
pattern of behavior, because even if it's not that bad,
it shows a cycle, it shows a process. Because when
they went, when he went to Costa, they were good,
so Melanie thought they were good, which is why she
chose herself or and chose like not to stay with Corey.
Speaker 1: You know, what do you think that Melanie is going
to stick around with Sincere or like, what do you
think Melanie's next move is gonna be, Because honestly, that's
what has me on the edge of my seat, is
she gonna explore other connections. Is she gonna leave the villa? Like,
is she gonna stick around?
Speaker 2: I don't think she's gonna leave the villa because I
think she knows that she has to be like that.
She has opportunities here beyond Sincere being terrible, you know
what I mean. But it's bigger now than just her
not working out with this man. I think she stays,
and we hope that they send another person her way,
but if they don't, I still think she stays. I
hope she doesn't stay with Sincere. There's I don't see
a lot of talking the way that she is, like screaming.
Hear him in the next episode the guy look stupid
like you do. So I really don't. But and only
with that because she's been manipulated, Like I'll give her
the grace like she's been manipulated. I actually don't know
how much of a bird she is behind a man
because she's been manipulated so deeply, Like maybe she's just
been lied to into being having bird like behavior, you
know what I mean. And it's not even her fault
because he's he's making her out to be a bird.
But I think that she stays and she I hope
they one more, a couple more bombshells just to see,
just so she can have some fun on the way out,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And we have I think we have what eight episodes left?
Speaker 2: It's those two making it to the finish one. Oh no,
she thought it might have been safe. I think the pradition,
you know, when the voters don't vote for you. Here's
the reasons why I love.
Speaker 1: I really had because at the beginning it was Melanie.
I felt like it was Melanie playing around.
Speaker 2: I like Melanie a lot. Yeah, I love Melanie. I
will tell you I cried this episode for her, like
I have real tears streaming down my face. I don't know.
Maybe it's the I am a bigger girl. I know
Melanie used to be a bigger woman. She was a
plus sized mono porges then gorgeous now gorgeous always, But
like there's something that she did in her voice when
she saw all that, and how yeah, how much she
had been alive to the fine cute boy that doesn't
talk to normally the thicker girls. Boys men look like
since do not talk to girls that look like even
as beautiful of a model that she was when she
was plus sized, you know what I'm saying, So like
there's just something there that when she she did something
in her voice and she felt she sounded so small,
like she was really trying to not let it affect her,
but it really affected her. And she knows her work
and she knows her power, and she knows how to
let it be perceived now. But the tears that couldn't
stop being controlled or couldn't be controlled, and they her
voice just kept getting smaller and smaller when she was
seeing that she's fine and she's good, and I just
my heart broke for her because I've been there, like
you are. You're trying to be confident, you're trying to
be secure, especially even if her body now is you know,
societally approved antee like quote unquote like bikini ready and
all of that. She used to be a bikini model anyways,
because it was seen before, because bikini's gonna give the
get the body. I give it, okay, get somebody, you
give it. So and Melanie used to work that shit
then too, honey, So she's always just been working it.
She's a gorgeous woman. But I just I really felt
for her, and you fight to be confident. You fight
to be secure, especially when the world is telling you
one thing, you can do it in spite. You become
so strong and you have such a self esteem, in
spite of how you are treated and regarded in society.
And he's a real piece of shit for making you
feel just that small, even though you've done all that
work on yourself inside and now, both fitness wise, both
mentally emotionally, and he manipulates you into thinking that you
are enough. You're beautiful. The fine boy that maybe want
to talk to you before, it's talking to you now,
and he likes you. He lied, he said it, he said,
he was all in on you. So you look like
they crash out and it's not your fault. And I
feel I really felt for her in that moment because
even if that wasn't his intention, that's not his lived experience.
That is a limited experience, and another component that should
be considered in like how you move and treat people,
and these men and moving they shows this every time.
Although I think this is definitely one of the best
movie Night's like we're getting.
Speaker 1: A lot, We're getting a lot.
Speaker 2: I'm overwhelmed. I'm like, damn, But I think that It
shows you that the way that these men move regardless
of the other complexities of the women in their lives,
and that is the that is the point. They're very linear.
They put their blinders on. It is about feel good
connection and moment in that moment, right, It's about what
makes them feel good right now, LUs or whatever.
Speaker 1: Even a conversations.
Speaker 2: I don't think Sincere was just being lessbul I think
he'd like the new exciting activity of soul and he
was like exploring fluding Oh wow, but the thrill of
telling Melanie's he's all in on her. But I got
to test out this feeling. There's no self control, there's
no thought about the consequences of action, and there's no
thought about the person that you're doing this too or with.
I start to feel even for the girl who like TT,
because I would have kept moving like TT too. If
all my friends, all my dude's friends are coming up
to me saying he the happiest he's ever been, I
have no reason to question that. She's asking, like, really
you for real? If they lived with them in an aia,
they would tell me the truth, Like these men are
just not moving right, What do they say with the Bachelor.
They're not here it for the right reasons, and it's
just very much showing because it feels like some of
these girls are Kimsey aside, Kensey is here for splits
and kissess Clam slams like she is desperate for making
the science so hard.
Speaker 1: If she had a good time, I do you know
what when Kinsey is like, I don't take car it's
serious at all in this villa. But do I like
the entertainment? Yeah, Like I like seeing her kind of
like fuck with everybody, and then just like do it's
it's fun to see she's the time. I wouldn't be
voting for her towards the end.
Speaker 2: No, has she even come up in a vote. I'm
not kidding. I've voted in all of them, and I
feel like, yeah, it's not really all round, because like
she's just there for the entertainment value and that's fine,
and you know.
Speaker 1: What I fear though, I feel like we're going to
vote for Bryce and Trinity and that's really gonna be
the angle, and it's like that they're winning.
Speaker 2: I didn't want it, I didn't ask for it, but
I've accepted. I've hit like two different group chats and
been like fuck, Brinnany probably taken it for real, hargh.
But they're gonna win and they we're gonna They're gonna win.
Speaker 1: What else? What other choices do we have?
Speaker 2: Bring Corey back and give him a picnic with Melanie
and otherwise it's gonna be Brittany. It is like yeah,
Brennandy up and twenty you know up twenty. Although what
do you think about his package? They they think there's
gonna be a Bryce package. I don't know, he didn't
do much, but like, I wonder if there will be
discourse around it, because obviously we're going from like mediocre
or bad to like worse or most questionable with some
other things sprinkled in between. So I'm curious the response
that Bryceon's backage will get one the clips that they show,
which I love. How when they always blame editing that
like the editor or is like you know it was
cut it was cut up, yeah, but they can't cut.
Speaker 1: The conversation that I had Yeah, yeah, bro, you said it.
I I'm not too worried about Bryce though. I feel
like what him and Trinity have is like solid, It
is solid, and it is it do I wish I
had another choice. Absolutely yes, because I just don't yes
happening outside of the village. And that's what I mean,
Like I usually vote for things that I see happen
outside of the villa, like who ain't going to get
married and have children? That that's how I look at
it and fair. Maybe I need to like dial it
back a little bit and just accept love Islan for
what it is, because I even think, like last season,
we didn't get too much of that. We got like
Nick and Landria, and then we.
Speaker 2: Had we didn't get until the end, and they couldn't
win because we didn't get to invest enough time in them.
They should have won, but we had a Maya and Brian,
and I didn't believe in that either. And I will
say I at least believe in Brennandy more all kinds
of sexuality aside, I would feel better voting for Trinity
and Price than I did for voting for Amaya and Brian,
because I at least believe in their friendship their connection
like enough that I can root for that, like I
can root for the fact that they are also the
least chaotic He's honest enough, like they are chilling you know,
for lack of a better word, so I could absolutely
get behind that choice since I'll have no other choices,
that's what I'll say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good you know what. I like that answer.
Speaker 2: I agree that some of y'all at Brenny have and
I'm happy for you, Brennany and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, because it's like they're not a
backup life. So I don't get I don't get annoyed
when I hear it. It's just one of those things
where at all me personally, I just wish that I
had another option.
Speaker 2: But here we are, and I can see them liking
or loving each other more because if this is the
way that this straight white man acts with his beautiful
black queen that he has, oh okay, but I'm going
to if she if she like it, I love it extra.
Speaker 1: We love it well until we see what happens on
the next episode, because we are going to have is
it what is today? Is there just no new episode
or is it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, just no new episode on ho day that we're
recording this, so by that time it's releases. If you
listen to this one Thursday, then we're movie Night number two.
Speaker 1: Babes two.
Speaker 2: We don't forget. They are in for it. We have
only just begun. But damn was it a good start.
I said, oh, there's the previews. Get a stack one.
Speaker 1: It's good. And from the.
Speaker 2: Preview that popcorn the whole time. I that's my girl.
We can hang out.
Speaker 1: I want a good Rabbi steak, I said it till tomorrow.
That's it's gonna be more.
Speaker 2: I love a good Ribby steak. It's my favorite kind
of skak and cook it is my favorite. A good.
Speaker 1: The garlic mashed potatoes.
Speaker 2: Love a garlic mask, I do. I love a garlic mask.
You know. The key is to leave the potato skins fore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'll do a little mints match like I
like to have something. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's
like enough and then that one big piece just for me.
Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: It's mainly it's the it's the starch. It like helps
the water start you. And I always save a little
bit of water from when I'm ready to mash, and
I might meet a little bit of that extra potato,
you know, juice, you know, because my wife is like,
oh I'm old now dairy. I So I add a
little starchy water. But like I love a garlic mash
protato on a real boy. That's the way the movie
night and.
Speaker 1: You know what, and I think that's what we'll we'll
do money. Thank you so much for chatting with me.
I love having you. And then hopefully you can come
back because we do need to talk housewives and I
need to catch off guys because I know I've been
receiving some dms. Have you seen Rhode Island and what's
going on? And I'm just like, who.
Speaker 2: Live them quick today? Wonder why?
Speaker 1: No, wonder why We'll.
Speaker 2: Be finding out from quarantine? We soon enough. Thank you
so much for having me friend, You're the best.
Speaker 1: Thank y'all. Where can the people find you? Is there
anything that you're working on or anything that you have
coming out? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So you can find me anywhere. You're listening to this
after review and give Bravo We're Black a nice five stars,
ten plus stars and a written review. You can find
me anywhere you listen to podcasts at the mids with
many on. I'm also on Instagram and thread and a
live streating Love Island and I'm watching all the outfives
live and whatnot random shows that I'm also watching. I'm
on threads and Instagram talking about that. We are now
like two or three times a week on the pod
talking Love Island. Same. I'll be reporting later tonight about
movie Night the Housewives. Definitely Atlanta and Rhode Island are
off the chain, so talking about that and covering news
and hot topics and someone offs like million dollar Nannies
or Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders or whatever else is going on
in the hot topics. Squirrel, I really want to do
a BET Awards episode. Yes, stay tuned for that, because
I thought it was one of the better ones. But
I also said that so many years in a row.
But I really thought this was one of the better ones.
This was really good. So you got you can find
me anywhere you're listening to this one. Thank you so
much for having me. That's the Mix with Money or
on Instagram and Thursday mixing with Money.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I can't wait for your bet. I hope
you did the BET Awards because actually I have not
seen enough talk about it because I've seen it and
I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: It was really good.
Speaker 1: I think the one last year was pretty good too,
if I remember, I know, I remember saying last year
this was a really good one, and I like this one.
Speaker 2: You did better. I was like, oh, well, let you know,
we're getting better and better. I thought Drewskie was funny.
I thought as a as a perform as a host,
that was a skin with him and Kiaky Corner. But
I thought that was hilarious. Kiki was great, like the
luxury of gorgeous it was. It was a lie. It
was a beautiful night. It's a culture's biggest night for
a reason. Okay, it's gonna be talking president in the
years to come. Anyway, So Lauren Hill made it on time.
Speaker 1: It was great because that's what That's exactly what I said.
But I'm not gonna do too much on that. But
I was like, wow, she she really did show up.
Speaker 2: So it'll be two wards.
Speaker 1: Okay, but thank you guys so much for listening, and
until next time, y'all. Bye,