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let's dive in to today's episode. I like to welcome

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back to the show returning champion, Craig Hamilton Parker. How

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you doing, Greg, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Very well, Thanks, good to be back. Nice to see

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you again.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming back, my friend.

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Speaker 3: Our last conversation, there was a lot of predictions in there,

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and unfortunately a lot of those predictions came true. Sadly, Yes, sadly,

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a lot of those A lot of those predictions that

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you laid out in that first interview have come true,

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and the the world is a bit upside down now.

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Speaker 1: But so my first question is when you tune into

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humanity right now, what do you see first or feel first?

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Speaker 2: Right? Well, division, I think is the key word, isn't it?

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And I think I would also say unconsciousness in many ways,

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because sometimes division is caused when people fall into a

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sort of a mass unconsciousness. I mean it happened that

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it happened before the beginning of the Second World War.

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Remember Carl Jung talking about how a mass unconsciousness kind

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of takes over a nation and people fall, and people

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kind of fall. They're looking outside for answers when they

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should be looking inside for answers really, and you sort

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of think, well, I'm mixed up in myself. I've got

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to find something I can belong in. So it could

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be this extreme, well that extreme, this is where politics

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and religion. So that's my first thought. But behind I

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think there's something better too. I think some good's going

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to come out of all bit.

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Speaker 1: Tommy, what do you think is going to come out

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of all this?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's going to take a time, and I've been

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exploring all sorts of things to try to work out

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what the agenda is ahead of us.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Obviously I've been using clairvoyance for some of this, of course,

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so that's what my whole channel is all about, doing

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clairvoyance and seeing next week's news today. But I also

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explore India, and I know you've had on your show,

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Doctor Q who's a close friend of mine, and look

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at the Nadi oracles, and I know many Nadi readers,

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and I've been looking at the ancient oracles of India

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and seeing what they can say, and lots and lots

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is being revealed at the moment. So I think we've

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got a very tough time ahead up until about twenty

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thirty and then things start to change. And I'm a

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great and I know many other psychic people and spiritual

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people and astrologers all kind of had the same gut

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feeling and have done through the same trees. Really that

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we are still despite the darkness, there's brightness ahead. I

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think what we're going through at the moment is I

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would call it birth pangs. They're uncomfortable. I haven't had

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them myself, of course, but I mean from what you see,

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they're uncomfortable, they're painful, it's but there's something beautiful at

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the end of it. And I think this is what

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we're going We're going through a birthpang to a better

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age and new age. And that would take them explaining

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it's not all not all champagne and rubber plants and

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cocktails and holidays. It's it's something much deeper than that.

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the moment, and I think actually it's a really important

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time to be living. I think with some of the

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luckiest individuals on Earth to be living at this time.

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a turning point where our significance us people is very important,

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and also the opportunity for us to find spiritual advancement

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in these times is probably greater than any other time

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Speaker 1: It's interesting that I love the analogy of the birth

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pains because it's exactly it's a great analogy of what

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we're going through right now. But if you go through history,

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if you just look through history, we've gone through many

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of these. It just seems now, I mean different world wars,

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different issues, I mean volcanoes exploding over throughout history, earthquakes,

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massive shifts in humanity. Obviously there's that flood thing that

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happened a few a few thousand years ago, ten thousand

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it seems like humanity keeps going through all of this,

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much more amplified because of technology and the connection we

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all have, and we're able to see things instantly, you know,

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as they're happening. Where before in World War Two there

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was the newsreels that's The only way we would get

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information about what was going on in World War two

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and there would be a quick two or three minute newsreel.

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Now you just pick up your phone and you're ready.

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political thing. Are you watching this? It's it's just do

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you do you agree with that? Do you think that's

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just because we're so amplified.

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Speaker 2: I feel so amplified, absolutely. I mean, never before in

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human history have been so connected on one level and

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so disconnected on another level, you know, because I mean

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they talk about, you know, join this community and that community.

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face to face and you have to have your normal

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human interactions without hiding behind user names and things like this,

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you know. And I think it's we've had a boost

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an artificial intelligence and a dumbing down on the human

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intelligence as well. I think people have lost the ability

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to communicate with one another. And of course now we're

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in a situation where we got all this so called news,

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but we don't know what's real and what's not. And

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that makes it even worse because normally here in the UK,

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you know, people would most of the discussions would be

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down the pub, you know, people have a chat over

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a pint of beer and they all they'd all shape

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off about this and that and come away and nobody's

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changed their minds at all, but everybody's spoken their thoughts. Nowadays,

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you don't know what's real and what's not. And I

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think this is where where we have so much fear

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because we don't trust our politicians often we can't trust

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ours spiritual leaders too with some of the horrible things

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that we see coming out of that.

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Speaker 1: Where do we look?

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Speaker 2: Where do we look? And every time we look outside

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we're finding all the time we find delusions and people

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mixed up, and people who think they've got enlightenment and

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a bout and off about all sorts of craziness. There's

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no common sense. And I think all the time, I

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think what we've got to come back to, all us

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is we've got to first and foremost say who am I?

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Who am I? If I chucked all this rubbish aid?

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If there wasn't all this internet, if there wasn't all

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these people, if there it wasn't all these opinions being

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put on me by left or by right, and it

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was just me, what would I think, you know. And

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that's why I think people go wrong sometimes because they're

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always kind of wanting to associate with this, wanting to

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be part of this, you know, wanting to feel part

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of the group consciousness. And I think that's where it's

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going wrong. We've got to get back to our individual consciousness.

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And although you know, the Internet and everything can advertising

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particularly is telling you how unique you are and how

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this is your choices and things like that, and they

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use all that jargon to market and advertise things, the

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fact is we've lost that sense of self identity. We've

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lost that ability to stand on our own feet, and

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we lost the courage to stand up and be wrong sometimes.

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in the human How can we say that that's the

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spirit of our age At the moment, it's like we've

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lost our sense of courage to be ourselves and to

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courage to say something wrong and the courage to to think, say,

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the Emperor's got no clothes, you know. And I think

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this is a fundamental problem that I feel when I

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sort of, you know, because a lot of what I

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do is obviously talking to people all around the worlds

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when you're doing things like medimistic and psychic readings, it's

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amazing how you're talking. I can be talking to someone

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in China one day, Taiwan, I can be talking to

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someone in India, in America, UK, you know, all all

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over and everybody's got the same worries, the same concerns,

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the same fears. Is universal. And you know we're going wrong.

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We're going wrong somewhere and I think, I think I

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know what we're missing, which is I think we're identifying

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we're looking to the wrong place for the answers to happiness.

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We've got to find the happiness in ourselves, not be

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trying to seek it elsewhere. And that's a slippery slope.

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Speaker 1: But Greg, isn't it what you were saying that you

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know everyone's trying to go into different kind of camps

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or sides or tribes. But this is a very primal

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thing as a human humans want. We're community based beings,

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you know, animals, we need community because that's the only

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way we survive. We're not really truly built for this planet.

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the sun. If we stay on the sun and we burn.

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other mammals are animals out there. The only thing we

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got going for us is these guys right here, these

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thumbs and our brains. That's the only thing. So our

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community is what primarily we've always kind of instinctually go

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to to find which is fine. And but by doing that,

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you kind of give your power away to the tribe,

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to the community, to the organization, and that could be religious, government, economic, spiritual,

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whatever that thing is. But to find what you're saying,

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to find yourself, to look for the answers inside, take

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someone who is strong and someone who is willing to

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do the work to go inward, because there's a lot

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of baggage, there's shadow work, there's other things like that

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that you kind of have to go through to start

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answering these questions or meditation deep, going in deep within yourself.

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that's in the best scenario, when people are scared, which

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is what's happening now, then you I got to join someone.

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I got to join something to survive. That's on a

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subsconscious level. Does that any of that make sense to you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. I mean, meditation and spirituality

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shouldn't be a disengagement with the world. It's got to

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be the complete opposite to that. We ultimately we've got

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to see the world as the meditation as it all.

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way to try to address these things is, Yes, we've

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got to always be focused on ourselves. We've got to

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be balanced on ourselves. We can't if we can't stand

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from ourselves. We haven't got the courage to stand in

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our life. We're not much good to the world, but

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we can find a lot of support, particularly I feel

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with the people close to us first of all. And

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got it's all got diluted so much. You spoke about,

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you know, associating with the tribe and things. We don't

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can't even associate with our nation at the moment. We

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is the family, because if we can if we can

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have a love for the family, and it's easy to

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have love for those close by to us. Not always,

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but generally we love our children, Generally we love the

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people around us. So that love that's in the family

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can be. And I think a lot of people have

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become so selfish they forget about that. That's that's an

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important thing. But if we can get that strong in

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our life, then we can extend out into the community,

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can extend out to the world. But it has to

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have its roots in something that is close to us

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and has emotional meaning to us as well as spiritual meaning.

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a lot of it because it's all about me first.

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Me first, my job, my income, work, my you know,

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my holiday, everything. Everything's going to be about what I'm getting,

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not what can you give me? What can I put

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in should be our thoughts, you know, And I think

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this is perhaps one of the fundamentals where I feel

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people are so unhappy because you know, people come to

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me for readings and things, and they when will I

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meet my soulmate, you know, and things like this, and

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it's like, well, look, you've got to be your soulmate first.

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Otherwise all you're going to do is throw yourself away

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on someone else and then you've lost your footing straight

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away and you might meet some control freak that's going

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to mess your head in. So you've got to be

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strong first in yourself. We've got to be our own person.

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We've got to be kind of a maverick in many

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ways and not a nonconformist. Each of us should be

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like that. Then. I think if we're strung within ourselves,

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you find that all the people they are meant to

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be with you in life will come to you and

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the connections come automatically. Because you know, we're talking here

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about a world that's very material, but my understanding of

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the world is nothing material at all about it. It's

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all consciousness, and all the events that happen are just

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like Shakespeare said, it's like a play, it's like a game,

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it's like something that's just happening, and miraculous things can

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happen to us sometimes when we get our head in

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the right place, and if we're going to change our

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own personal world. I'm a great believer if we get

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ourselves in the right values within ourselves. And I'm not

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talking about this abundance greed sort of thinking. That's a

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lot of people there. You think greedy all the time.

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And things have come to now when we get ourselves

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into harmony with the chingeredosympathy with the dow. When we're

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in harmony with things, and things will come back into

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our lives quite automatically, and happiness will flow into ours

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lives automatically on a human level. And the same as

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on the world too. We've got to see it all

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not just as things happening on the news. We've got

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to see it as the flow of existence. This is

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the mind of God, this is the opening of the

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consciousness of the universe. And when we think positive thoughts,

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positive things start to happen in our lives, and positive

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things happen in the world. So I say, you know,

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because I make so many predictions, the newspapers often call

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me the profit of doom, But I like to hopefully

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be a profit of hope, because I think we can

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overcome all that and we can create a better world.

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going to be a golden age, if there's going to

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be happy age ahead, that will be when we found

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absolute peace and certainty within ourselves, when we're at one

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with the idea that there's absolute peace, there's absolute bliss

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in the universe, that all is consciousness, that all is fluid,

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that there need to be no fear whatsoever in our lives,

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because we've understood that the spirit, as it were, is

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far far greater than anything else that could be throw

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throwing as the lower vibration as what we call the

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material world. I've gone off one's.

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Speaker 1: Beautif said, that's that's absolutely beautifully said. And you and

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you were obviously you're you do a lot of predictions,

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and they liked the profit of doom.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting. But but speaking of profits, the most famous

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of the prophets profits not in the religious stents, but

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in a predicting of what was going to come in

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it's not. Astrodamis one of the most famous ones, and

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he was mentioning, I mean, I've been hearing about the

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Middle East being the core of a new world war

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forever and then you know Iraq and Kuwait and you know,

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and it's been we've been teasing it for years. Afghanistan

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obviously all this stuff, But Iran now is a whole other.

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This is a whole other I'm in my lifetime, I've

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not seen this. This is a completely different energy from

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the leadership that we have here in the States to

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what's going on now and I Ran and there is negative,

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obviously a lot of negative behind it, but I've heard

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people from Iran who are very happy about the regime,

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you know that they're they're trying to knock down the

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regime because there's such so many horrific things that regime

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is doing to its own people. So it's really interesting,

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what is your impression of what I Ran represents where

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we're going and how is this situation going to continue

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to unfold Because there's two players right now who are

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still being very quiet, Russia and China are being very

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very quiet, and they are two gorillas in the room

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that we have to kind.

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Speaker 2: Of absolutely keep an eye out for. Yeah. Yeah, And

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this is what I've been talking about a lot in

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predictions and also interestingly, what's been coming up from these

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oracles in India. I briefly shortly explained the oracles in

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India thousands of years old. They're into visual nadi leaves

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that are written for individual people and it tells you

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about your future, and it tells you things in there

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like name of your mother, the name of your father,

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who you are in the time of your birth, and

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things like that. Impossible to know things, and they give

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people's futures, but occasionally in them they'll tell you something

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also about what's happening in the world around you. And

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we've been looking at multiple readings that have come through

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people and asking people to bring them together and say,

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is there anything in your readings that suggests anything about

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the future. And we've also get an opportunity sometimes to

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ask some of these oracles which there's a blank leaf

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called a jieva nadi which which the words appear on belief. Okay,

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this is a weird stuff. Look at your other videos

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on your channel. It is. But when we've been getting

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more and more, and we've had six or more, and

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sometimes we've had we've put a few people in touch

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with these ancient oracles who have quite high politicians in

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the USA. I'm not going to say who's who, but

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we they wanted to find out you can find your

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political chapter, as it were, and they wanted to know

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if they're going to be elected or not. Basically, but

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some pretty scary stuff's been coming up, to be honest,

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because it says that the war that's happening in the

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Middle East is the start of something bigger, and it's

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going to take a good two years before we can

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get out of this stage of things we've got already happening.

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They're talking about April time coming up the next month

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is going to be quite a hard time. We're going

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to have another hard time in August when it bursts

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into flame again, as it were.

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Speaker 5: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: But the problem is is that it talks about also

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countries that we've identified. The old name of Japan has

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been in there, for example, and it said there might

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be some big geological problem around Japan, which we're interpreting

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as some form of earth movement that happens around twenty

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twenty eight time with the American elections. Similarly, at the

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same time, Russia and China get involved, and from this

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they turn against the USA in twenty twenty eight November

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twenty twenty eight. So it's out there this is going

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to be a very very difficult period when we maybe

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it's going to be when we start to get the

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big crisis over Taiwan and we start to see things worse,

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and it's telling us to warn the world. It's telling

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us to say and I don't like to be the

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prophet of doom. But the thing is also saying in there,

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because what these oracles say to us is that they

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kind of give us a remedy. And they keep saying

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over and over again that the remedy is for people

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to basically meditate, to pray, to open their thoughts to

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see in a brighter, beautiful world ahead. To keep the

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focus on the fact that this is a time when

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it's a turning point. It's a birth, it's not a

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destruction of the world. It's a time when we can

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get to a very very beautiful time in our lifetimes

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in which they're talking about the return of higher consciousness,

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the return of they're talking about the rishies will return,

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and that can be many It could be I see

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you're into Yogaanda for example, with the awakening in the

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background there. It could be the return of people of

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his caliber and more, not just one, not some big

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revelation of some great one guru or another. Say, many

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will return and it will change human awareness. It will

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change human consciousness. It will awaken us to the idea

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that we are more than just a material being. So,

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but it has to come out of this difficult period,

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they say, and when this turns it would be for

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the better. So to keep our eyes on the light

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at the end of the tunnel and forget about the

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because we will have some hard times. I feel ahead

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they will be tough going, particularly with the I've also

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personally said that at the time of the Taiwan crisis,

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which will come up next, there will also be an

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internal revolution within China where they turn against their own leader,

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and eventually China will break up into multiple countries, not

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as one country. And even Russia itself will were changing

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much much, much further ahead, and we'll even have a

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female leader of Russia in due course. It seems impossible stuff,

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but you would have thought, you know, I mean, these

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au sound like impossible things. But we were talking about

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this some time ago, and look at the impossible you know,

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invasion of Greenland. Who would have ever thought that sort

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of thing could have ever been on the table, the

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things that happened in Venezuela, you know, I mean, what

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was all that about? You never thought anybody could have

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done those sort of things. The rules have been completely

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overturned at the moment, and perhaps it hasn't been necessary

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on one level, because there's some very corrupt people in

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the world on all more sides, you know, in our

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own countries as well as abroad, and something's got to

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be shaken up. We can't just leave it to fester

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and fester and fester. A lot of the problems we've

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have is because we've been too scared to poke the fire.

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But it's got to be sorted out otherwise. You imagine

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what it would have been like if Iran had a

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nuclear capacity and was throwing bonds around the Middle East

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the way it's throwing missiles around at the moment, just

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to disrupt the world economy. You know, it's horrifying on

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one level, but necessary. It's like the birth, It is necessary.

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The pain is necessary to get us to another spot. Yeah,

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and that's where I feel things are kind of going.

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Speaker 1: So so let me ask you, because I'm of Cuban descent,

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and now Cuba is going through absolute hell. No more power.

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I mean, the entire country is without electricity. That's how

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fragile their system was. And now people are starting to revolt,

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and because once you pull electricity away from them, then really,

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what's what's the point? Like They're just like, well, I'm

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just going to start burning things, and that's exactly what's happening.

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And the government is can't keep control of anything, and

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it's in and the States are talking about going in,

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uh and you know, taking over and clear kind of

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what they did in Venezuela. What is your Do you

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have any insight on what's going to happen in Cuba?

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Out of pure morbid curiosity on my point my part?

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, well, that was one of the things I

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was saying that at the beginning of the year, I

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usually make a set of predictions, and one of the

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things I said is would be absolute disorder in Cuba.

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Over Cuba, I remember the Cuban missile crisis, believe school,

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and we're all terrified about that because we didn't quite

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know what was going on, and our mums and dads

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were terrified. Obviously, Cuba's you know. I mean I lost

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my internet the other day for three days and I

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couldn't cope. Where am I going to? What am I

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going to do with that internet? You know, particularly I'm

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a YouTuber? What am I going to do? You know,

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that's just the act. But you imagine what it's like

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when you pull the plug on everything and the lights

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go out. I feel that Cuba will go through an upheaval,

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and same way I feel like China's going to go

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through an uppeople It's often when you take the when

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people are uncomfortable and the food's taken away, usually when

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food prices go up. That's when the Arab spring blew up.

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When there was a shortage of foods and with shortage

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of any commodity that is essential for life is obviously

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a trigger. But my feeling is that I feel that

477
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:55,079
Cuba will, we'll come out of this well a massive

478
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,480
place for I mean, I can I can sense the

479
00:26:58,519 --> 00:27:03,160
gambling halls and the holiday companies or started dying. Oh

480
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,400
I to invest in it.

481
00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: You know, for decades we've been they've been waiting, like

482
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,880
the US. It was supposed to be Vegas before, before

483
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,599
Vegas was in the last in Las Vegas, in Nevada.

484
00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:17,279
It was supposed to the mob was gonna go to

485
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,559
Cuba and build out Vegas until to that Castro Bash.

486
00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew some people that manufactured slot machines, and

487
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,799
I remember years back they thought something might happen with

488
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,200
Cuba and they were. They were really ramp and ramping

489
00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:35,480
up manufacturing to do that. I've talked to all sorts

490
00:27:35,519 --> 00:27:38,119
of people with life working either were at mafia or

491
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,480
I don't think, but but you know, but I so

492
00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:45,319
it's a massive place for investment. It's potentially I meant

493
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,960
beautiful countries. I have not been there, but well, lovely,

494
00:27:48,079 --> 00:27:52,559
it's unspoilt, really, I mean wonderful. But I think I

495
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,839
feel that Cuba had come out all right. In the end,

496
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,119
I think there will be I think we're going to

497
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:02,839
see internal strife within all countries of the world. I mean,

498
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,240
Cuba's ripe for a revolution. When we look at the UK,

499
00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:10,359
there's ripe for a revolution in many ways. There's a

500
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:16,960
big divisions here France, Germany, Sweden, all where there's so

501
00:28:17,079 --> 00:28:20,920
much social division, particularly with the huge influx that the

502
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,920
europe has had, for example, with people from other countries

503
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,920
we've got sometimes like London, for example, it's got sixty

504
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,880
percent people from abroad now, and very big, strong conflicts

505
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,720
between Islam and the rest too. I mean, these are

506
00:28:36,759 --> 00:28:39,039
things that we don't like to talk about because we

507
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,160
like to think of the unity of all religions and things.

508
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,599
But there's some very very bad thinking going on with

509
00:28:45,039 --> 00:28:46,680
these things at the moment. So I think we're going

510
00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:52,039
to see worldwide a lot of upheavals and revolutions when

511
00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:54,400
the whole world starts to sort of shake, where we

512
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,559
start running out of oil, we start running out of

513
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,359
food shortages coming soon. I feel because this rates of

514
00:29:00,359 --> 00:29:03,880
homos is not just about oil, it's about manufactured goods.

515
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,680
It's also about getting food from one side of the

516
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,039
world to the other. And we've here in Europe we've

517
00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:16,079
had massive floods recently with the extensive rain, constant constant concept.

518
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,799
The crops are in a bad way, food runs out.

519
00:29:20,039 --> 00:29:22,000
Things like that. You know, you get a lot of

520
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:27,559
public unrest, and I feel that this will happen around

521
00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:30,000
the world, but maybe we need it again. Maybe this

522
00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:33,400
is another birth pang because everybody.

523
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:33,279
Speaker 3: Is so.

524
00:29:35,519 --> 00:29:38,559
Speaker 2: We just can't trust any We don't trust the big businesses.

525
00:29:38,839 --> 00:29:42,759
We don't trust the global companies. We don't trust our politicians,

526
00:29:43,079 --> 00:29:45,160
and we're voting for them with our votes and with

527
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,039
our money all the time, and that they run off

528
00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:51,039
into their tax havens and none of the money comes

529
00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:53,279
back here in the UK. Our roads are just a

530
00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:56,640
massive potholes. You know, what's happened to the basics in

531
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,920
our world. So the world is at a state of major,

532
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,480
major change, not just on the Middle East crisis that

533
00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:06,640
we spoke about, but if you look at it all

534
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,680
around the world. Every country in the world is going

535
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,079
through an absolute earthquake at the moment. And sadly, I

536
00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:16,079
also feel that on top of this, we're going to

537
00:30:16,079 --> 00:30:21,480
see a number of major global disasters of some sort

538
00:30:21,519 --> 00:30:25,000
that may be related. I mean, Casey talked about the

539
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,160
shift of the Earth's polls, for example, where we already

540
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,200
are seeing in the last ten years and more of

541
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,079
a change in the Earth's magnetic field than ever before

542
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,119
in the recorded history of those things. It has been

543
00:30:38,359 --> 00:30:40,440
quite big shifts. He might have been picking up that

544
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,640
that was what was going to happen at this time.

545
00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:45,119
We're definitely at a shifting changing point.

546
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Speaker 5: We'll be right back after a word, from our sponsor

547
00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:55,200
and now back to the show.

548
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,039
Speaker 2: But something good will come out of it. I am

549
00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:02,319
absolutely convince, and so are many of the astrologers and

550
00:31:02,359 --> 00:31:05,079
so many of the other psychic people and the spiritual people,

551
00:31:05,079 --> 00:31:09,119
and the people I've met in India, for example, I

552
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,000
mean yoga Andanda obviously comes to mind, but he spoke

553
00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:16,079
to Babaji and people like that. And I've spoken to

554
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,079
some of the Sidhar Yogis in there, people that live

555
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,440
in caves and covered in ash and things like this,

556
00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:25,039
and had translated us with me, and they've told us

557
00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:27,559
to look forward to a better world. It will be

558
00:31:27,599 --> 00:31:30,440
a better world, that this is not the end of things.

559
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:35,200
This is just the beginning of things. And I feel

560
00:31:35,319 --> 00:31:37,039
like I say, this is a good time to be

561
00:31:37,119 --> 00:31:40,160
born in. But we've just got to keep our nerve

562
00:31:40,359 --> 00:31:42,640
and keep moving. We get there in the end.

563
00:31:43,599 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: The thing is the one thing that every empire, every company,

564
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,319
every sports team that's had any sort of success, the

565
00:31:54,359 --> 00:31:59,559
only common denominator is they all eventually fall. It changes

566
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:05,880
all of it rome thousand years hanging around for Egypt,

567
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,720
how many thousands of years was the Egyptian Empire running?

568
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,720
It all goes and when you're in it, though. You

569
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:16,079
could be like, ah, that'll never happen. I'm sure when

570
00:32:16,079 --> 00:32:19,400
the UK was it was when England was the world

571
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,039
dominating power, they'll be like, ah, will be this, We'll

572
00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:27,000
be here forever, I mean, and obviously that's not the

573
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:29,519
case anymore. But the US is in a similar sty're like, oh,

574
00:32:29,599 --> 00:32:33,000
the US is US, Like, you know, there's nowhere and

575
00:32:33,119 --> 00:32:35,119
it's written that we're going to go on as a

576
00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:39,039
global superpower forever, you know, And we can just look

577
00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:41,160
at France, we could look at England, we could look

578
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,160
at Spain. All of them had a turn as a

579
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,240
global superpower. And the same thing with companies. We've seen

580
00:32:48,279 --> 00:32:50,640
it with companies. I mean, for God's sakes, here Sears

581
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,119
one hundred and twenty years or something like that. Sears

582
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,279
was going around and it's gone. It's gone, you know,

583
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,400
because things change. So it's it's a thing for people

584
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,799
to understand that we there's nothing. The only thing that's

585
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:08,559
really that that's written in the stars is change, always

586
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,640
Earth change. Everything. I wanted to ask you you mentioned

587
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,799
about the pole shifts. What would actually happen to the

588
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,200
Earth if the poles did? I mean, I'm assuming like

589
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,240
tomorrow morning, we're going to wake up, and now the

590
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:23,680
North Pole is in China, Like, I know that's not

591
00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:26,359
going to happen, but I hope it doesn't. But what

592
00:33:26,359 --> 00:33:29,440
would actually happen to the planet if all that happens.

593
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,599
Obviously Antarctica would melt and and all that stuff would

594
00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:35,279
come up, I mean, what would happen.

595
00:33:35,359 --> 00:33:39,359
Speaker 2: But that's the magnetic pole rather than the the the

596
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,240
axis pole.

597
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,319
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, okay, that's that's the.

598
00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: That's the thing. And and I'm those scientists, so I

599
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,640
couldn't really answer that question fully to be honest, but

600
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,880
I'm sure it would be quite a disruption, certainly to

601
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,960
our satellite systems and anything that requires magnetic north I mean,

602
00:33:56,599 --> 00:34:01,160
most of the electronic systems require some adjustment. For example,

603
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,759
saturllite navigation required has to adjust itself all the time

604
00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:08,920
for the movement of the the poll shifts, you know,

605
00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:12,400
so it's sudden shifts, so throw everything right out of balance.

606
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,719
So that's yeah, that's that's just one other potential thing.

607
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, one other goes wrong something well, I mean, in

608
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,400
the last in the last you know, twenty odd years,

609
00:34:24,559 --> 00:34:27,280
things that we thought would never we'd never see have

610
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,880
happened again and again and again and again in every.

611
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: Aspect of our lives. So let's turn our attention now

612
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:41,599
to the economy, the world economy specifically, because I've been

613
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:46,519
saying this for years. I'm I'm no, I'm no economic economists. Uh,

614
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,480
I can't say the word, but you know what I mean, economist.

615
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:54,519
I'm no economist. But the we're due, We're so due.

616
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,239
We're overdue for a major correction or a major shift,

617
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:03,199
or something happening in the can world. It seems like

618
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,760
there's cracks are starting to form. You know, we got

619
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,880
gold up to like fifty four hundred and fifty five

620
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:14,440
hundred US dollars. That's insane. It's it's calmed down since then,

621
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,880
but there's things that are happening. You could start seeing

622
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,920
the tea leaves if you will, that there's something going

623
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,719
on with the economy. What is your take on? I mean,

624
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,760
obviously the US economy is one of those driving factors.

625
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,840
US economy goes down, the entire world goes down. But

626
00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:34,920
in general, I think the economic future, where do you

627
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,400
see where do you see that?

628
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,519
Speaker 2: What my feeling is for a long time is that

629
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,920
somehow we're going to have to rethink things because the

630
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,239
system we've got at the moment doesn't really work very well.

631
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,840
I mean, when I look at cryptocurrencies, it's almost like

632
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,159
a Ponzi scheme. They work. The more people keep pouring

633
00:35:53,199 --> 00:35:55,920
money in, the more it keeps generating money to give

634
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,880
out a bit, sooner or later we run out, and

635
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,559
it's kind of all. It strikes me, it's all like this.

636
00:36:01,679 --> 00:36:04,599
It's all seems to me to be where do we

637
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:11,119
put our faith in our security? And my feeling is

638
00:36:11,159 --> 00:36:15,559
that it will pop eventually because if we have, if

639
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:17,639
I'm right about what I say about China, for example,

640
00:36:17,679 --> 00:36:22,719
and supposing the Chinese economic system collapsed, that could equally

641
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,719
bring down the dollar and everything else because we're also

642
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,159
interconnected at the moment. And again, when I turn back

643
00:36:29,199 --> 00:36:31,440
to what the oracles are telling us, they're saying, invest

644
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,760
in land, invest in farming, invest in having some And

645
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,440
Jogernander said this too, actually in some of his talks

646
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,880
with people, not in his book so much, but some

647
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,599
of the discussions he had with people, he spoke about

648
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,840
that wild get to a point where people would need

649
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,480
to think about returning back to more of a land

650
00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:53,280
based economy, where because I think the problem is large

651
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,079
is dangerous. I think small is better. If we have small,

652
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,880
everything depends on you know. I'd buy most strawberries, and

653
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,079
they've been flowing into South America, you know, and that

654
00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:07,880
seems madness to me. And yet I live in a

655
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,079
strawberry growing area here in the UK, you know. So

656
00:37:13,159 --> 00:37:16,039
we are sort of I think, wasting ourselves on throwing

657
00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:20,039
away into a system that is an illusion really because

658
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:23,320
it's I promised to bear pay the bearer, it says

659
00:37:23,039 --> 00:37:28,519
on the UK, you know. Uh, but it can't. We

660
00:37:28,519 --> 00:37:30,639
haven't got the gold. We don't even know if Aul

661
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,960
Knox has got any gold in it. It's never been

662
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,519
counted for years and years and years, so and god

663
00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:39,480
knows what they've must have spent it all in the

664
00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:42,320
UK a long time ago. We're even worse than you guys,

665
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,159
you know, And so we've been living beyond our means

666
00:37:45,159 --> 00:37:47,440
for a long time. And I feel that we'll grad.

667
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:50,360
It will pop. I think we will get a very

668
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,079
serious situation with it. But again we were told, when

669
00:37:55,079 --> 00:37:58,280
I was talking to some of the Indian series that

670
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,280
not to fear for this again because it won't go suddenly.

671
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,119
We won't get like a nineteen thirty's crash is a

672
00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:09,960
gradual decline, and there's a gradual decline I think, you know,

673
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,000
I think, for example, AI is overvalued, and just like

674
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:17,400
we had so much money pouring into the dot com boom.

675
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,960
My feeling is, you know, AI boom. Everybody thinks AI

676
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,119
as solve everything. It can only it's only at all.

677
00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:26,000
It can't do it all, and it's the most incredible

678
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,480
tool we've had since the Industrial Revolution. But it's still

679
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,679
it's still fallible. It's not the answer to everything. It's

680
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,920
not going to make everybody money because everybody's got it,

681
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:40,920
you know. So it's so I think there are going

682
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,199
to be a lot of adjustments, and I feel that

683
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,400
over the next three years again because I think the

684
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,199
next three years ahead of critical times, particularly up to

685
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,800
the time of the twenty twenty eight. Around that time,

686
00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:54,559
we're going to see bouncing you know, bouncing stock markets

687
00:38:54,559 --> 00:38:56,559
and everything. So you can't put your money into gold

688
00:38:56,599 --> 00:38:59,079
and think it's safe, or into silver and think it's safe,

689
00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:03,559
or into anything. Really, I feel, if you're going to

690
00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:06,440
put your money in anywhere, don't think about how much

691
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,119
money I can invest and make. I would say, what

692
00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:11,440
would last if everything collapsed. You know, I've got a

693
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,280
home usually safe, you know, except in war usually, but

694
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:18,000
property prices are going down at the moment, probably a

695
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,880
good time to buy something much more sensible. I feel

696
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,880
something that actually has some solid value to it, because

697
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,880
ultimately money represents something else. It represents gold, or it

698
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,159
represents property, or it represents something that we can own.

699
00:39:33,599 --> 00:39:36,559
But we can't own these ephemeral things. And I know

700
00:39:37,159 --> 00:39:40,679
that's how the system works. But ultimately, I think on

701
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,639
a personal level, my attitude is I put my money

702
00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:45,719
into things. I don't invest in other things. I keep

703
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,360
into things around me that I've got a need, you know.

704
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the thing is that money is an illusion.

705
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,639
It has been since the beginning of time. I mean,

706
00:39:55,679 --> 00:39:57,599
the only thing that we've kind of.

707
00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 6: All agree upon is that this rock called gold has

708
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,039
value to it in one way, shape or form, and

709
00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:09,639
same thing for silver as like hard but they're.

710
00:40:09,559 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: Just metal, you know, they're They're just an element. It's illusion.

711
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So we and then now since we got pulled off

712
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the gold standard by Nixon back in the day, then

713
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our dollar is not connected to anything before at least

714
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it was connected to this rock that we all kind

715
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of agreed had some sort of value to it, and

716
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now it's ethereal. Like you said, it's all based on

717
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what we all just agree. It's a contract. It's a

718
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nonverbal contract that this little piece of paper in my pocket,

719
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or these ones and zeros that we see on a

720
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computer screen are things that we could buy goods and

721
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services with.

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Speaker 5: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

723
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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: But it is the same that every single thing we

725
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have in life, though, isn't it? Even the people around

726
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us and everything. Everything is a general everything is subject

727
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to change, and money always will come and go. And

728
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I think it's important in life to let money flow

729
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through your life rather than hold on to it, because

730
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I feel when you do that, if you think of

731
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think about the universe in a different way, think of it.

732
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It's all consciousness, it's all the mind of God. It's

733
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all an illusion, all of it, not just the money.

734
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But we need to let things flow through our lives.

735
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I think Gandhy when he died, he only had a

736
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few dollars in his bank account because he'd always let

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it go through and gave them away again. And I

738
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think that money should be there and shared. Really, I

739
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think in the hands of the right person, it's a

740
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real boon. But if it's in the hands of someone

741
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that wants to hold on to it, I've always seen

742
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people that get very, very selfish with money usually end

743
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up with pretty miserable lives. We're not much to show

744
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for it. I know, cry all the way to the bank.

745
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They say no. But I think generally in a person's life,

746
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if you just allowed money to flow through life, it

747
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usually comes. It usually comes, And if you've got the

748
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faith in in just letting it happen, we'll always have enough.

749
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We'll always have enough to get by. So, but the

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thing that does last is our personal virtue. Who we are,

751
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what we've developed. This is what we will take into

752
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our next life and into the world's beyond. Because if

753
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you believe in the next life, then we're going to

754
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take something with us. What can we take A shrowd

755
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has no pockets, my man used to say to me.

756
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But we can take who we are, our memories, the

757
00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:33,920
good experiences we've had, who and who we've developed to

758
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become in this life. That's where our treasure is. And

759
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so when people worry all the time about what's going

760
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to happen to the colonomy. What's going to happen to money?

761
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I think that's a secondary thing. Think about who you are,

762
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what you're doing in life, and what you're becoming. And

763
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I don't feel that the universe will ever desert you.

764
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If you, if you, if you get on that spiritual

765
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wavelength with things, it will. It's the universe is here

766
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to support consciousness ultimately, and all the these things that

767
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are happening in the world are secondary. What is important

768
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is what's happening to you as a person inside. Are

769
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you becoming a greater, more conscious being? Are you becoming

770
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a better valuable person? Have you developed kindness in this lifetime?

771
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Have you developed compassion and love in this lifetime? Those

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are your treasures, and those are things you'll take with you.

773
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And when we lay on our deathbeds, we don't think

774
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to ourselves, I wish I'd made more money, because you

775
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can't take it with you. You'll be thinking yourself, I

776
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wish I had all the love people I love with

777
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me could come with me into the next step, and

778
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that will happen. So, yeah, get our values right, I say,

779
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I think we delude ourselves and we've got to remind

780
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ourselves that you know, that is the mayor, that is

781
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the illusion, and the truth is so wonderful really, and

782
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that's what the New Age would be. That's what the

783
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Golden Age will be. When we realize that the power

784
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of what's within us is far more powerful than everything

785
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that's outside. That's what the awakening is. And we don't

786
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have to wait for some bloke to come along and

787
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give us the awakening. We have to do it ourselves

788
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and start now. Because the awakening is when everybody starts

789
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to wake up. It's like many many candles, many many

790
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stars in the sky until it becomes bright as you

791
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could look at because the glory will come from each individual,

792
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not from some Messiah or Avatar or whatever. They're all

793
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there to teach us to wake up, to realize that.

794
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You know, sometimes we can see or that person is

795
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God or God conscious, but that what I'm saying is

796
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you are God conscious. You've got to become God conscious.

797
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And when that happens, well, who cares whether the dollars

798
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dropped or not, It don't matter, right right, very idealistic,

799
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but I think that is the way to look at

800
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things if we can.

801
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Speaker 1: So with Greg, you mentioned a little earlier and you

802
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kind of touched upon it. Now with the avatars and

803
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God consciousness and these kind of souls that come in

804
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the world. There has been recently a lot of spiritual

805
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leaders who are starting to fall and we're starting to

806
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see who they truly are as a human behind the scenes.

807
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I've gone on a I've gone on like this binge

808
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of watching documentary series on fallen spiritual leaders and just

809
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trying to study what the common the common things are

810
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and it's so clear. I mean, you see that it's

811
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a pattern, it's a blueprint how they do it. I

812
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mean every cult, every you know, spiritual organization a lot

813
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of times or spiritual leaders who it's fascinating to see.

814
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But a big one that just obviously came out with

815
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Oprah and what happened in the in the list that

816
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was released, and that kind of really took me that.

817
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I was shocked by that and when I mentioned it

818
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to people, because he was such a big deal in

819
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the West. He brought a lot of Eastern ideas, so

820
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he did a lot of good in the world, did

821
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a lot of good in the world, but yet he

822
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was a very flawed as a very flawed man, and

823
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despicable in many things that he has done and said

824
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and so on. But then you start looking back at

825
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all of these different spiritual leaders from you know, from

826
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I just saw a documentary Aboutkundalini Yoga uh and that

827
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that leader, that Yogi and Osha and new things are

828
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coming out about him and John of God and so on.

829
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And that's on the spiritual standpoint. Let's not even talk

830
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about the Catholic Church and other major religions around the

831
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world who have been you know, things have been bastardized

832
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by their leaders and so on. What does this all

833
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mean for us right now? Because there was a time

834
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and I always use the Catholic Church as a as

835
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a recovering Catholic uh myself that I use the Catholic

836
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Church as a as a as an example because as

837
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I was growing up and prior to me even being

838
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on this planet, the Catholic Church was infallible, It was

839
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a part. It was just this monument to God and

840
00:47:01,559 --> 00:47:04,039
they could do no wrong. But obviously in the last

841
00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:06,000
fifty years we've realized that there's been a lot of

842
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,360
stuff going on behind the scenes, and more and more

843
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,360
as unraveling in that organization. But it's going across all

844
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spiritual paths. So why is this happening? What is this

845
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supposed to do for us as as souls, as seekers

846
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,280
trying to find their way hopefully back to themselves, back

847
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to home.

848
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Speaker 2: I was just as shocked as you with Chocraper, because

849
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I knew him quite well and really gave him readings

850
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and things like that. Sometimes I found him quite a

851
00:47:34,199 --> 00:47:36,519
nice man actually, But you know when you read about

852
00:47:36,519 --> 00:47:38,440
what happened in the end and you start thinking, well,

853
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,440
what do we know? And I've met other spiritual leaders

854
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,199
just like you've spoken about. I'd love to see that

855
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series you're talking about.

856
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Speaker 1: It's on HBO. It's called a Breath of Fire.

857
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Speaker 2: Ok, lookina yoga, it's pretty There are some very dark

858
00:47:57,119 --> 00:47:59,480
gurus around, and I've met a number of them in

859
00:47:59,519 --> 00:48:02,960
my time, and I've met people who have really taken

860
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,960
advantage of people. And the Kondolini yoga stuff has often

861
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:11,000
been I oh, divine like mission. I remember getting interested

862
00:48:11,039 --> 00:48:13,559
in at one point somewhere along the line and I thought, Wow, God,

863
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:15,960
this looks great, and then you sort of think, actually,

864
00:48:16,679 --> 00:48:19,559
I'm not so sure. And with Raj nishan Osho, like

865
00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:23,519
you said, are so many and It was predicted actually

866
00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:26,719
that Nostrodama spoke about it, the Revelations speaks about it,

867
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,679
the Piranhas talk about it, which is the Indian text,

868
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,679
predictive text saying that at the time of the coming

869
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:38,639
of the Awakening, many negative leaders will force gurus would

870
00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:40,960
be out there. And I say to people, you mustn't

871
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,880
believe in the teachers. But if I say, if you're

872
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,519
listening to me, don't take what I say for it.

873
00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:51,960
Take what you know. You know, you've got to stand

874
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,559
on what your knowledge, what is your experience. People always

875
00:48:56,559 --> 00:48:58,960
want easy answers, and I think that's where we go

876
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:01,360
wrong and where these people will start to take advantage.

877
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,159
You want easy answer. All I've got to do is

878
00:49:03,199 --> 00:49:05,840
do this special technique and I be enlightened, you know.

879
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,119
Or all I've got to do is follow you, and

880
00:49:08,159 --> 00:49:09,880
I've got to worship you and give you all my

881
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,880
money and then I'll be enlightened and everything that you'll

882
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,760
look after me. Right well, I think some very high

883
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,800
spiritual gurus can look after you, but they don't want.

884
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,519
What they really want you to do is for you

885
00:49:20,639 --> 00:49:24,920
to develop your own self will. And I was brought

886
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,239
up in spiritualism, really that's where I learned my mediumship.

887
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And one of the seven principles of spiritualism in the

888
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,760
UK is personal responsibility. And I think that is what

889
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,079
you've got has put as one of your key spiritual

890
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,320
values to take personal responsibilities. If thing has gone wrong

891
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,199
in my life, the first thing I can say, well,

892
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,159
it's my karma. I've done it. I've must have done

893
00:49:48,159 --> 00:49:50,800
something somewhere along lind to bring us on myself. Even

894
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,519
if it wasn't, I still accept it as my fate.

895
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,800
Well I've got to do it. Nobody else can think

896
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,760
it for me, and nobody else can become enlightened for me,

897
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,159
can they? Or they? Can you awake for me? Nobody?

898
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,519
It's this is when we wake up. But it's so easy.

899
00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:09,079
Everybody wants to follow and be followers. They're not prepared

900
00:50:09,119 --> 00:50:12,280
to stand up and be criticized and so off. If

901
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,519
you're cold, worse than ever nowadays, So you run off

902
00:50:15,519 --> 00:50:17,920
to follow some politician, or you run off into some

903
00:50:18,039 --> 00:50:20,760
job and identify being this or that, or you run

904
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,679
off into some religious organization and hide there. You're hiding

905
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,880
from yourself. You've got to be your own person in

906
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,800
this life. Otherwise these mavericks will always pop up. And

907
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,360
I think perhaps as the lights comeing into the world,

908
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,159
maybe there's a there's a flashing out of these things.

909
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Speaker 5: At the moment, we'll be right back after a word

910
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:46,639
from our sponsor, and now back to the show.

911
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Speaker 2: But the answer is always the same. Take personal responsibility

912
00:50:52,199 --> 00:50:55,039
for your spiritual development. If somebody is in your way,

913
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,000
if Jesus is in your path, push him out the way.

914
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,360
Put us in your past, push him out the way.

915
00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:03,639
Go to the boss, go to the light, go to

916
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,880
what you know is the ultimate awakening. And if we

917
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,519
follow other people, you'll always be a follower. I come

918
00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:12,360
into this life as a follower. I want to go

919
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,840
out as a teacher, and I think each of us

920
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,559
should think like that. You know, we've got to become

921
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,000
We've got to become it. It's no good thinking, oh,

922
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,800
somebody else is going to solve all my problems. We

923
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,239
have got to become the awakened beings. This is too

924
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,400
easy to fall into those traps, as you said, Yeah.

925
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Speaker 1: And the thing is that I think the biggest failure

926
00:51:35,159 --> 00:51:38,760
or trap that we that people fall into is that

927
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,760
when there's a spiritual teacher who comes in, they point

928
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,639
you a good spiritual teacher points you or guides you

929
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,920
in the direction that you should be looking at, should

930
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,360
be investigating, should be guided down the road that because

931
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,199
they might just be down the road a bit farther

932
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:55,880
than you, they might be down the road a lot

933
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:00,719
farther than you, you know, but they're pointing towards the

934
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,119
direction you should be going. The problem is people start

935
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,079
worshiping the pointer.

936
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Speaker 2: You know.

937
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,639
Speaker 1: It's like, and that's the thing. It's going to a doctor.

938
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,559
You don't worship a doctor because he told you, listen,

939
00:52:14,599 --> 00:52:17,920
stop smoking, what's wrong with you? You know, you know,

940
00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:21,880
stop doing drugs? What's wrong? That doesn't happen there, and

941
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,440
but it happens in the spiritual space so much more.

942
00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:27,840
And that's the biggest I think trap that we fall into.

943
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,840
And when you give your power away to somebody else.

944
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, like in Zen, they say you mustn't confuse the

945
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,039
moon with the finger that points at the moon. You've

946
00:52:36,039 --> 00:52:38,039
got to you've got to look to the moon, not

947
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:40,760
the not the teacher, as it were. And that is

948
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,719
absolutely I think that is absolutely, absolutely critical and probably

949
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,880
the biggest lesson we can learn of persons personal responsibility.

950
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,480
I think it's one of the most important things I think.

951
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,559
I think when you do take personal responsibility as well,

952
00:52:54,639 --> 00:52:59,559
you develop a certain fearlessness too, because and I think

953
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:03,400
you in order to develop that fearlessness, I think you've

954
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,079
got to also accept that you've got to look death

955
00:53:06,119 --> 00:53:08,719
in the eye. I feel, in many ways in your

956
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,800
spiritual thinking. Because if you think I'm only going to

957
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,639
be here a short time, I'm going to be dead

958
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,199
and this body is going to be just fall ash

959
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,119
or rotting or whatever, and that's when you start to think, well,

960
00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:24,199
then if that is the case, what is beyond? And

961
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,440
that's when I began my quest to mediumship in my

962
00:53:27,519 --> 00:53:29,719
life and proving life after death. But then if you

963
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,039
know that life goes on, you don't become so dependent

964
00:53:33,079 --> 00:53:36,039
on this world, and you can actually become fearless. And

965
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,920
but a lot of what happens and people run are

966
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,320
hiding because it's behind it all. There's a fear of death.

967
00:53:42,679 --> 00:53:45,119
There's a fear of the uncertainty of death. But if

968
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:48,159
we face the worst and we know death, and like

969
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,239
many people who have had near death experiences but I'm

970
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,480
sure been on your show and things like that, they

971
00:53:52,519 --> 00:53:55,079
develop a certain fearlessness. And I think even if we

972
00:53:55,119 --> 00:53:58,679
haven't had those sort of experiences ourselves. That's what I

973
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,800
think we can. That non attachment, that transience is our

974
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:07,239
way to overcome all the troubles and turmors of the world.

975
00:54:07,559 --> 00:54:11,599
You know, it's about attachment in many ways. And yeah,

976
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,159
don't go hiding in other people or run into other

977
00:54:14,199 --> 00:54:17,079
people and thinking that Saints and the rest can do it.

978
00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:18,760
You've got to do it for yourself. You've got to

979
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,440
be your own person. Don't trust anyone else, trust yourself,

980
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,239
trust your own experience, and think for yourself.

981
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: That's important, beautifully said. Beautifully said. Now you kind of

982
00:54:31,519 --> 00:54:34,320
talked a little bit about what's going to happen in

983
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:39,480
China and in Russia. What kind of global power shifts

984
00:54:39,519 --> 00:54:40,800
do you see over the next decade.

985
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,079
Speaker 2: Well, strange enough, I think over them. I kind of

986
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:48,480
come back to India again because I feel that India

987
00:54:48,519 --> 00:54:50,639
is going to have come. It's going to rise and

988
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,679
rise and rise and rise over the over the coming century.

989
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,960
And for a start, they've got a huge young pop

990
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:05,400
the rest of us haven't gone. They've got an intelligent

991
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:09,039
people who value education. There's a hell of a lot

992
00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:13,480
wrong with its infrastructure, and it's it's it's society, but

993
00:55:13,519 --> 00:55:17,280
it's got a democracy nonetheless, so it's got the potential there.

994
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,840
And I feel India will become a country that will

995
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,440
come to greater power, and I think it will become

996
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,800
a light for the world as well, because I'm perhaps

997
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,639
a bit over over enthusiastic with India because I've been

998
00:55:31,679 --> 00:55:34,079
there so much and I've explored so much with the

999
00:55:34,159 --> 00:55:37,719
teachings of the Indian mysticism and Vada and the rest

1000
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,320
of it. But my feeling is that India will come

1001
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,400
to the rise and will kind of be a light

1002
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,360
for the world and be the next the next big

1003
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,239
player in the world. I don't think it will be China.

1004
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,559
I think China's going to slip. I don't think it

1005
00:55:50,559 --> 00:55:53,320
will be Europe. And I don't think America will fall

1006
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:58,280
away and collapse. But America will soften in the years

1007
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,280
ahead and become less of the policeman of the word world,

1008
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,440
just as Britain and England was the policeman of the

1009
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,760
world in the past, you know, and I think we'll

1010
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,679
I think our systems will change radically. You know, we

1011
00:56:10,119 --> 00:56:13,199
live now, we're still living in what was the remnants

1012
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,320
of what was the Industrial Revolution, where we have Saturdays

1013
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,000
and Sundays off. That was so the workers had two days.

1014
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,519
I mean, a completely unrealistic way of living. Really in

1015
00:56:22,639 --> 00:56:26,960
the way we live nowadays, we still use money as

1016
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,719
a form of exchange. Could we not find new ways

1017
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,920
of doing that? We seem to think that work is

1018
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,039
still a nine to five jobs still and met for

1019
00:56:34,159 --> 00:56:36,800
many people, you know, does that really necessarily need to

1020
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,239
be that? Do we still need to work for other people?

1021
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,960
Or could we not just all be self employed? Could

1022
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,000
there not be new ways of doing things? And I

1023
00:56:44,039 --> 00:56:48,199
think we will develop new ways of thinking in the

1024
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,840
future too, which will give us a greater sense of freedom.

1025
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,400
And perhaps that will be one of the great things

1026
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,079
that you know, for so many people, they're trapped in

1027
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:02,199
jobs that they hate, or even if they're high up

1028
00:57:02,199 --> 00:57:04,519
in a job, or they are as the chief slave driver.

1029
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: You know.

1030
00:57:05,679 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 2: And I think that's a great ideal of unhappiness in

1031
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,360
that because there's no human freedom in that. So I

1032
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,000
think the world as a better world will be one

1033
00:57:13,079 --> 00:57:17,800
where we have less dependence on the normal, strict routines

1034
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,039
of life that are determined by work, and we will

1035
00:57:21,079 --> 00:57:23,480
start seeing work in a different way. And I think

1036
00:57:23,519 --> 00:57:26,639
we'll start seeing money in a different way. And really

1037
00:57:26,719 --> 00:57:29,599
we also have to start looking at do we really

1038
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:30,760
need quite so much?

1039
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: As well?

1040
00:57:31,519 --> 00:57:34,199
Speaker 2: Do we really need both partners in a marriage working

1041
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,760
full on and the children being farmed out somewhere? Can

1042
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,400
we get back to those family values again, like I

1043
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,719
spoke about at the beginning, and do we really need

1044
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,159
to have quite so much? Can we not share a

1045
00:57:46,239 --> 00:57:49,480
bit more? Because if the world shared, I'm sure there'd

1046
00:57:49,519 --> 00:57:53,840
be plenty to go around the more so we need

1047
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,519
to rethink, and I think that might Sometimes it takes

1048
00:57:56,599 --> 00:57:59,119
a big shock to do something like that. The Second

1049
00:57:59,159 --> 00:58:02,559
World War was a big shot that made people rethink.

1050
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,840
The eag of it comes things like the League of

1051
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,320
Nations and the United Nations and the idea of the

1052
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,159
importance of NATO and protecting things, and that europe In Union,

1053
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,280
even whether it's good or bad. All those things were

1054
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:18,039
sort of coming out of a shop period. And maybe

1055
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,960
this coming period of difficulty in shop, maybe we'll rethink

1056
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,119
on a big scale. It needs some big thinking, not

1057
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:26,559
just tweaking around the edges.

1058
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:33,039
Speaker 1: I wanted to get your take on media. Hollywood is

1059
00:58:34,599 --> 00:58:38,159
cracking and falling in many ways. It's definitely shifting from

1060
00:58:38,199 --> 00:58:42,119
where the old system and now the world is starting

1061
00:58:42,199 --> 00:58:46,760
to come up. There's different being someone who's lived in

1062
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,960
Hollywood for so long, they had this experience that they had,

1063
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:55,159
this ego about them is like, well, it's Hollywood. Everything

1064
00:58:55,239 --> 00:58:57,840
has to be made here. We are the gateway to

1065
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:02,039
all entertainment, which was the case for decades and decades

1066
00:59:02,119 --> 00:59:05,239
and decades. But that's not the case anymore. And they

1067
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,519
have and they're so slow to catch up that the

1068
00:59:08,599 --> 00:59:11,119
rest of the world is like England has obviously taking

1069
00:59:11,159 --> 00:59:16,880
a huge jump, in Australia and New Zealand. Overseas, Abu Dhabi,

1070
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,800
you know, Dubai. There's so many different places. Where do

1071
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,639
you see the media landscape changing? Because it is such

1072
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:29,280
a huge part of our our experience here on Earth.

1073
00:59:29,599 --> 00:59:34,519
Media in general, social media, you know, news organizations, movies,

1074
00:59:34,599 --> 00:59:39,159
TV shows, all of that, just YouTube content creators like

1075
00:59:39,239 --> 00:59:44,000
you and me, who are basically our own our own

1076
00:59:44,119 --> 00:59:48,119
media empires in our own small way. Where do you

1077
00:59:48,239 --> 00:59:50,719
see this is all changing over the next decade or two.

1078
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 2: I think the biggest shift, I mean when you think

1079
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,519
about it, after the Second World War, just looking at

1080
00:59:56,559 --> 01:00:01,000
history again, Hollywood is what made America great because.

1081
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 5: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

1082
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:09,719
And now back to the show.

1083
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 2: When everything else collapsed, everybody looked at Hollywood and saw

1084
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,679
all the glamour on the screen and wanted to buy

1085
01:00:18,719 --> 01:00:22,760
American goods, and it was the driving force of a country,

1086
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,079
and it can be and it was the same here

1087
01:00:24,239 --> 01:00:26,719
in the UK. We had a strong film industry that

1088
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:31,159
kept kept your economies going. So it's a powerful force

1089
01:00:31,239 --> 01:00:33,599
to lose when you lose something like that. And I

1090
01:00:33,719 --> 01:00:37,559
think Hollywood has become from what I know again, I

1091
01:00:37,639 --> 01:00:39,960
see people from all over the world and readings with

1092
01:00:40,039 --> 01:00:42,199
me and some of the people I speak to from

1093
01:00:42,519 --> 01:00:47,000
from the film industry, they're in absolute despair at the moment.

1094
01:00:47,119 --> 01:00:50,599
They don't know what's what. They are absolutely falling to bits.

1095
01:00:50,639 --> 01:00:54,920
And of course what was once an easy place to

1096
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,360
go and find work, they don't know where to look now.

1097
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,960
And it's all sorts of And of course what's going

1098
01:01:01,039 --> 01:01:04,760
to change it all is AI. You know, we could

1099
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,679
we could develop AI bots of ourselves nowadays that could

1100
01:01:09,519 --> 01:01:12,960
you could just type in stuff. So in Hollywood as

1101
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,559
an industry I think will completely collapse over the coming period.

1102
01:01:16,599 --> 01:01:18,800
I think it will spread up again. I think people

1103
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,519
will find new places to do it. It may be

1104
01:01:21,639 --> 01:01:24,880
in Florida and maybe in Texas and places like that.

1105
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,519
New centers may be spread out a little bit more

1106
01:01:28,519 --> 01:01:30,239
around the world because we don't all have to be

1107
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,880
in the same place, because we've got new forms of communication.

1108
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,639
The same things happen in the writing industry really. I mean,

1109
01:01:37,039 --> 01:01:39,320
you can get you can get ai to write your

1110
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,840
book in seconds nowadays and produce these what they call

1111
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,400
slot books, but there is that you wouldn't know the

1112
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,239
difference between that and a book that being written by

1113
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,400
a real person. And so we're going to we're going

1114
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,159
to see a complete shift. I don't think we're going

1115
01:01:52,199 --> 01:01:54,039
to have a big center of it. In fact, my fit,

1116
01:01:54,199 --> 01:01:56,159
my feeling is that the Middle Easter gain will be

1117
01:01:56,199 --> 01:01:58,840
in one of those areas that will pick up a

1118
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:03,719
lot of the practical parts because you've got big landscapes there,

1119
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,000
big areas where there's no restriction about how big a

1120
01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:09,079
place you can build for sets and things like this.

1121
01:02:09,519 --> 01:02:11,920
So the devise of this world and the Middle East,

1122
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,400
I think, well, after this crisis is finished, will become

1123
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:19,119
one of those areas which will become a maida media area.

1124
01:02:19,559 --> 01:02:22,559
But Hollywood itself. You know, don't you think really that

1125
01:02:22,639 --> 01:02:25,719
in many ways because of these huge arrogance that has

1126
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:29,079
been in that place. Isn't it about time it took

1127
01:02:29,159 --> 01:02:32,400
a fall? You know, it's sad to lose it. I mean,

1128
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,639
and what you see coming out from I'm a great

1129
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,280
film lover, but when I go out with my life

1130
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,119
and I say to us, there's nothing we can go

1131
01:02:42,199 --> 01:02:46,280
and see, there's nothing that hasn't got some crazy political

1132
01:02:46,679 --> 01:02:49,360
message behind it or a woke sort of message behind

1133
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:54,159
it that basically puts you off. So I think hollywoods

1134
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,440
had its day. Frankly, I see it's had its day.

1135
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: Or what is the universe? Or what does God want humanity?

1136
01:03:03,519 --> 01:03:05,679
What is being asked of humanity to learn? Right now?

1137
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:06,360
Through all of this?

1138
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 2: You said what is God? I mean when you say

1139
01:03:09,039 --> 01:03:11,480
God or say well, you know, it depends what you

1140
01:03:11,599 --> 01:03:12,039
mean by that.

1141
01:03:12,199 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: You know, God, the universe, the.

1142
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,559
Speaker 2: Everything. And I don't think there's a will behind the

1143
01:03:18,639 --> 01:03:20,719
word universe telling us what we've got to be or

1144
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,559
what we've got to do. Sure, it's a bit like evolution.

1145
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,119
I mean, it's happening, and we don't we maybe there

1146
01:03:27,199 --> 01:03:28,840
is no end to the universe, so we don't know

1147
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,639
where it's all going to end up. I mean, it's

1148
01:03:30,679 --> 01:03:35,000
beyond our comprehension to know that there's an end, or

1149
01:03:35,079 --> 01:03:36,679
if there could even be such a thing as the

1150
01:03:36,719 --> 01:03:39,480
beginning and an end. But I think from the humanity's

1151
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,480
point of view at the moment, I do feel it's

1152
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,039
we're trying. I think we've got to get back to

1153
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,599
basics again. In many respects, it's a bit like the

1154
01:03:50,119 --> 01:03:54,199
the arrogant hero that falls foot victim to his own

1155
01:03:54,239 --> 01:03:57,480
ego and crashes, because you know, we start to think

1156
01:03:57,559 --> 01:04:01,239
that we're the great person. And nations have been doing this,

1157
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,920
industries have been doing this, like we said, with Hollywood

1158
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,280
and things like that, and really we've got to get

1159
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,719
back to the simple things again. We've all got lost

1160
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,360
in social media and we all kind of watch youtubes

1161
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,079
all the time, people crossing the road looking at their phones,

1162
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,639
completely glued and in their own little box, and artificial

1163
01:04:19,719 --> 01:04:22,360
realities will make this even worse when we start wearing

1164
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,159
the headsets and things like this. Really we want to

1165
01:04:25,199 --> 01:04:27,199
get back to what makes us really happy, and it

1166
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:31,000
sometimes it's the simpler things, where we're with people, where

1167
01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:34,880
we can be, where we're not constantly engaged in constant

1168
01:04:35,239 --> 01:04:38,920
attention grabbing stuff. What we've lost is the power of

1169
01:04:39,039 --> 01:04:42,159
our attention, and that's what we've got to regain, and

1170
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:46,960
that requires quietude. Sometimes it requires sitting quietly, doing nothing

1171
01:04:47,079 --> 01:04:50,400
and just allowing usls to watch the thoughts, for example,

1172
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,880
simple forms of meditation, because if we don't have that,

1173
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,280
we're completely the victim of everything that comes into us.

1174
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,639
Our attention is drawn to the point that we're no

1175
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,280
longer happy because we're always just being drawn from one

1176
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:07,280
thing to another. We're completely lost in the illusion. And

1177
01:05:07,559 --> 01:05:10,639
we've got to step back from that. And the only

1178
01:05:10,679 --> 01:05:12,480
way you can step back from that is a complete

1179
01:05:12,559 --> 01:05:15,840
rethink of the way we think instead of we've got

1180
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to focus on the inside, because we get chasing everything

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on the outside all the time. But really, if we

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focus on the instead of going outer, we sometimes got

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to go in there and not all the time, and

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not to escape from things, but we do need to

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we do need to be back in touch with the

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undiscovered self of its where the part of ourselves that

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is falling into unconsciousness. We need to wake up and

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we need to go in sometimes and be comfortable just

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sitting just being ourselves and not constantly being entertained or

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playing with games or talk chatting on bots and things

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like that. That's where I think we need to go,

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and I think that's where we might start to we

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might start to learn more. What we probably need is

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the Internet to go down world wide. It will probably

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help us put us all that a business right.

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Speaker 1: But but twenty twenty had a little bit of that.

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When everything's happened, you know, it was it was the

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first kind of inclination of all of that. Has there

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been anything that you've seen in your in your visions

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or in your ability to see what's going to come

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that surprised you that you were like, geez, holy crap.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because quite often the things that you see are

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at least expected things, really, and those are the things

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that are usually right. Because obviously, if you're if you

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if you're trying to see the future, you've got to

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be very careful you don't get your own thoughts modeled

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up with it. The same with mediumship. You know, you've

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got to make sure that that is a clear channel

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and that is what you're getting and not letting your

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own thoughts get in the way. It's the same with

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any of these things. Yeah, and occasionally things do pop

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into one head that are unexpected, and I don't know.

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I think for me it's mainly personal things, things that

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happen and people that come into your life that you

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kind of sense in advance. To say, for the world

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at large, it's always an unexpected really, it's always the

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unexpected things. The Donald Trump business. I mean, I jumped

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on and said about that early on, but way back

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before even came you became president, I said Donald Trump's

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going to become the president, and the press jumped onto that,

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so that was probably the most unexpected thing. And one

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of the things actually, I think with him is another

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thing I said before was I said that Trump would

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become a very religious figure later on, and we're kind

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of almost seeing that happening with him in a way.

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I'm not saying whether it's good or bad his religious figure,

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but I feel that when he has finished his presidency,

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he'll start taking almost a religious attitude to the world.

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And that is a bizarre thing to think about. And

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it's the weirdest stuff that is often the strangest, and

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that's when those things happen, you start thinking, I wish

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I didn't see these things.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes well, that's.

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Speaker 2: Another thing that could happen. That was a weird one.

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Speaker 1: I thought, Uh, that that's another thing. How do you

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handle this psychologically? I mean, because you're starting, you're seeing

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this stuff and you've seen it come true, and you've

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been doing this long enough for this to happen. But

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on a psychological standpoint, when you see like, oh my god,

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that's going to happen, like it has a way on you,

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how do you deal with it?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think with most psychic work, it's important that

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it's a time when you're in the zone, as it were,

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and you're switched on to it, and the rest of

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the time when you switched it off and it's just

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me nothing, no clairvoyance, no telepathy, no nothing. And sometimes

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when I see things coming up on the news and

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things like that, it's just if another person's made that.

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From my point of view, I almost feel like I'm

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two people. There's the means that does the clear voin

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and does the readings and things like that. Then there's me,

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the ordinary me that doesn't get involved in those things

1253
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and is switched off from that, and it's just living

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an ordinary life. And I think you have to do

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it that way. But I think also anybody that and

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a lot of people that have spiritually minded watched this show,

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I know, and I think anybody that's on the spiritual

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path of doing spiritual work really does also need to

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do the spiritual practice, and in particular, I mean, I've

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done yoga all my life, since I was fourteen years old,

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and that's not just bendy stretcher yoga. You've got to

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do the inner yoga. You've got to do the prana yama,

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particularly as a physical exercise, the kundalini, but not necessarily

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in the sort of the extreme versions that you were

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talking about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but with can I just ask you because I

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haven't asked anybody this yet, Kundulini is not a yoga.

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It's not one of the original yogas in the Vedic text.

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The term kundulini is a thing obviously kundalini, energy, kundu

1270
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using rising, all of these things, but it was never

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a yoga as as like a career yoga or a

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karma yoga or any of that kind of stuff, right

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am I? Am I wrong?

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Speaker 2: In that? Well, it would have been part of I mean,

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Patajandi doesn't even mention any anything of a physical exercises

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with with within his teacher. The yoga is the union

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with the with the god joining. So all of these

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things come out of different sources, some of them from.

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Speaker 5: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: Uh, different different traditions and so forth. But the spine

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is the We've got a brain, which is where I

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thinks thinking is, but the spine is also part of

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an extension of the brain. Really, of course, the spine

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is also all the without using yoga terms, it's kind

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of the men memories of past lives, kind of forgotten

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memories where the energy of that memory is still there.

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So when what's happening with the spinal work is that

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one is actually using kind of you can use spinal breathing,

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for example, to cleanse that. It's like putting the prana,

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the life force, the life trons through up and down

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the spine cleanses it and condoinely awakening. I don't always

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feel it's not like a sudden powe, like it's someone's

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hit hit the thing and the in the in the

1295
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:33,720
with the hammer to make yeah carnival. You know, it's

1296
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gradual opening and the awakening that comes with the opening

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of the chatras, for example, as a gradual opening. It

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doesn't need to be some sudden, out of control thing.

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Those sort of techniques which can be used as well

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01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:50,920
are being down that path are bad. They will not

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be good for the go the wrong direction of the

1302
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:58,960
person's not ready gentleness. Let it happen automatically, naturally, and

1303
01:11:59,039 --> 01:12:01,119
that those things can be very positive that way and

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01:12:01,199 --> 01:12:04,159
can increase your life force, can increase your energy in life,

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01:12:04,359 --> 01:12:07,640
crease your life span, and increase your self healing. And

1306
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,359
particularly when the higher chatter is particularly the crown at

1307
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the head opens, connects you with the spirit world as well.

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But in each person's life, you've got to let it

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happen in its own way. There's no good forcing it.

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But the spiritual work is ultimately not just about these

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01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:25,279
physical things that we do within ourselves. It's about who

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01:12:25,359 --> 01:12:28,520
we can become. You know who am I? All we

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need to do is to simple stuff, sit in the silence.

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That's enough, and that will give us much more knowledge

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and understanding than all the techniques in the world.

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Speaker 1: Beautifully said my friend Peg. Where can people find out

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more about you and the amazing work you're doing in

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the world.

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Speaker 2: Well, you can have a look at my website psychics

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dot couk. Nobody can spell the world's psychics or let alone.

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Remember it's a couk. But that's my website and of

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course my YouTube channel because the same set as I'm

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sat here like this with all the background, you have

1324
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,760
a look for me Craig Hamilton Parker and come and

1325
01:13:04,119 --> 01:13:05,920
have a look on join in with some of the

1326
01:13:06,279 --> 01:13:09,079
discussions we have in the live shows. We do always

1327
01:13:09,079 --> 01:13:11,199
appreciate that people come and have a looka It's nice

1328
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to know that some new people can join you.

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Speaker 1: And finally, for someone feeling fear about this conversation and

1330
01:13:19,399 --> 01:13:21,760
aspects of it or of the future in general, what

1331
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,720
would you say to help them stay grounded and empowered?

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Speaker 2: Well, everything comes and goes in life, isn't it. All

1333
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The worst things always go in the end, don't they.

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I mean, when they give readings to people, I always

1335
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say my teacher used to say to me, if you

1336
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:36,720
see clouds in a person's life, look a bit further

1337
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because there's bounds to be some sunshine further along the line.

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And I think that's that's I think the way to

1339
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,359
look at life. Really good things come, bad things come,

1340
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and don't grab hold of any of it.

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Speaker 1: Just go with it.

1342
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Speaker 2: Let yourself flow through the world if you can. And

1343
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of course we're always going to have things that frighten

1344
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us sometimes. But I think if we're if we if

1345
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we look the world, like I said, from what the

1346
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perspective is, I am just a spirit living in a

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human body. I am just traveling across a bridge. And

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as Buddha said, bridges are the bridge is over a

1349
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sea of sorrows, but just pass over it, don't build

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on it. And I think that's the thing in life.

1351
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Fear will come, worries will come, There'll always be troubles,

1352
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and you'll think, how on earth I'm ever going to

1353
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:25,880
get out of this? But you do, You find a

1354
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,359
way in the end, and just go with it. I

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think it's important to try to be in your life.

1356
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Just be fearless. Don't let fear hold you back. It's

1357
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just a misuse of energy.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: Ultimately we'll all end up in a spirit world, you know,

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and maybe come back here again sometimes too. But it's

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just an endless flow. And why should we fear when

1362
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there's such glorious things around us and glorious divine knowledge

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that we can all find in this life, and that's

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what we've got to It's not about collecting things. It's

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not about worrying about politics, worrying about what's going to happen.

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There's always going to be troubles in the world, but

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there's also always going to be this behind it all,

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this wonderful sense of peace that you can find when

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you realize that you are a divine spirit passing through

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this and nothing, nothing can touch you.

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Speaker 1: Greg on that beautiful note, thank you so much for

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being here, my friend. Thank you for the the both

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sides of that coin that we've talked about here, the

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good and the bad, the clouds and the sunlight, my friend.

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I think, I think at the end, hopefully this conversation

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is hopeful and hopefully we will see the sunshine beyond

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the clouds that we're going through. So I appreciate you

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and my friend and everything you're doing to help awake

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in this planet.

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Speaker 2: So I think, yeah, thank you Alex too, and thank

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you for what you're doing as well, because you know

1382
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you're reaching out to people, and you know swing there's

1383
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another side of things. We're in spiritual people and the

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next level soul. Yeah, that's what we got to find.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.

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