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<v Speaker 1>Nat to please three.

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<v Speaker 2>Al Right, it is Tuesday, April eight, twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Sparta.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm your host, Jason straight worn alone with my co host,

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<v Speaker 2>said Drick Swerve and Irvin.

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<v Speaker 3>Hit him with the swerve, Hit him with the swerve,

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<v Speaker 3>hitt him with the swerve, Hit him with the swerve.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey man, that that uh pittbu will get you hypre

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<v Speaker 2>Sparta in this shot. Hey swerve man, listen, we won't

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<v Speaker 2>bad Gay Gray is in the house once again. Rashi

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<v Speaker 2>Howard Lansing's finals. Hey man, we got a jam packed show.

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<v Speaker 2>We got one of Lansing's finance on the show, tonight

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<v Speaker 2>as a special guest. We're gonna get to that in

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<v Speaker 2>a moment, Maureen, how you doing Spartan fans in the house?

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<v Speaker 2>Coach Mareene as coach? That is definitely coach. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know what he was hitting people up today on

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<v Speaker 2>Facebook and everything. I know he's somewhere out there, you know, sipping,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, something coming, you know, getting on he said,

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<v Speaker 2>I know he was up late last night watching that game.

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<v Speaker 2>It's talk about your weekend, man, how was your weekend?

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<v Speaker 3>Straight? You know, I'm the head coach man of Raw

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<v Speaker 3>seven on seven and we had a tournament and uh

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<v Speaker 3>and the guys played well, man, they fought to the end,

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<v Speaker 3>and uh they played in Orlando. Uh, then my son

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<v Speaker 3>had a visit at Georgia. I mean it's just, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I need to make three of me. You know, I

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<v Speaker 3>hate to tell you. You know who he's going next Friday?

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<v Speaker 3>This Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you mean like in a few days, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you going?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how I'm gonna do it, but just

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<v Speaker 3>know I'm this shirt I have on now, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have it on Saturday at the practice at the scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, it sounds like you're going someplace and parts unknown.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not even gonna broke that, by the way, you listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm already gonna take you everywhere. And again,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the son, your son's decision. Ultimately, I had

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<v Speaker 2>my son Cody was in town in Michigan this past weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, you know that I saw he looked a real

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<v Speaker 3>good walk in the halls of the Green and White.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you saw that, Yeah, yeah, yeah. He has to

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<v Speaker 2>start a lout there. He is right there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the younger Cody, the sequel that's twenty twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>He took a tour. You know, he was walking around

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<v Speaker 1>watching for.

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<v Speaker 3>It was literally what's up with the one finger?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what that's that number one? You're just saying, hey, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, no, I didn't go up. It went this ways great, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, hey man, young you're gonna figure this

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<v Speaker 2>flow out, you know. But now, it was great having

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<v Speaker 2>him there, and he had spent some time with his

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<v Speaker 2>brother ultimately too over in the other place where you're

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<v Speaker 2>going this coming up weekend, but this coming weekend. But man,

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<v Speaker 2>it was great having him walk the halls and the

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<v Speaker 2>old stomping grounds. Man, my favorite place on the planets

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<v Speaker 2>with Michigan State because we had you know, this special cam.

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<v Speaker 2>Your drone was up and they were there. He was

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<v Speaker 2>Wookie in the house. And that's Cody's nickname right there. Brad,

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<v Speaker 2>he was there practice too. Brad was at practice. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw you. You saw us.

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<v Speaker 3>There, Brag the actor. What's the act? I say?

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<v Speaker 2>He looked like, no, no, this Mike, Mike looks like

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<v Speaker 3>A man, see team.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I get it, I get it man. We gotta

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<v Speaker 2>get into this man, because this is we gotta just

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<v Speaker 2>pull the band aid off everybody. So there's a short

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<v Speaker 2>video made in remembrance of the great Jace Richardson.

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<v Speaker 3>Ohe to the good time.

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<v Speaker 1>Made the last a week.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought we gat Judy evil, but for e gone. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Tuesday to Bye tunious today. Yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Richerson did declare for the NBA Draft today in

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<v Speaker 2>the long letter to Spartan Nation, saying that listen, man,

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<v Speaker 2>he he will ever forever be a Spartan dog, but

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<v Speaker 2>swear if it was just too much, it's a lottery pick.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what everybody's calling him. So I had to take

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<v Speaker 2>the offer and all his dreams, just like his daddy.

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<v Speaker 3>Straight what I told you. He should have kissed the

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<v Speaker 3>floor in the letter that I would have gave everybody hugs, DAPs.

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<v Speaker 3>I would have exchanged Instagram, Twitter because I'm not going

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<v Speaker 3>back to East Lands. I'm not going back there. Y'all

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<v Speaker 3>can clear out my locker, y'all can have my dorm,

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<v Speaker 3>y'all can have everything. Getting a matter of fact, give

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<v Speaker 3>it to the new freshman that's coming behind me because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going back there. I told you guys that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm I mean, he wrote a long letter. Kudos,

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<v Speaker 3>but I already knew. You already knew.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of little long faces today and inspired

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<v Speaker 2>because yesterday he kind of posted a cryptic message saying

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<v Speaker 2>something about he may come back and something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But we don't we know.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew when he started starting and they started talking

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<v Speaker 3>about it when they first mentioned Loti pick clear out

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<v Speaker 3>his locker, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure Tom is a coaches is going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about this at some point, not today, but he usually

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<v Speaker 2>let's you know, he's not a guy that's gonna try

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<v Speaker 2>to stop a kid from following his dreams, especially when

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna be drafted so high. I don't think Christy

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<v Speaker 2>was considered a lottery but he certainly wasn't and he

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<v Speaker 2>ended up being a starter for the Lakers before now

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's with the Mavericks. So Jason Richardson Mannie,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a guy who's going to have a hell

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<v Speaker 2>of an NBA career as well. That's what it looks

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<v Speaker 2>like for me as an eighteen year old doing what

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<v Speaker 2>he did as he started maturing later on in the season.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, best of luck and well wishes for him

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<v Speaker 2>and what he's going to do and accomplishing his career.

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<v Speaker 3>You know the thing about a kid like that in

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<v Speaker 3>that sport, you know, when you got a dad that

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<v Speaker 3>played the game and the dad still in shade, they

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<v Speaker 3>probably still go in the back on you know, they

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<v Speaker 3>probably got a full cord and all that. And like

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<v Speaker 3>I was just watching highlight with the cross Sober bring

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<v Speaker 3>behind the back and stop on a dime like that's

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<v Speaker 3>something he had to work on, you know. I know

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<v Speaker 3>Jason had to be like me. You know, I just

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<v Speaker 3>set my alarm clock five o'clock in the morning, wake

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<v Speaker 3>him up, let's go. We got push ups, we got

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<v Speaker 3>pull ups, we got every day. Came belly and open

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<v Speaker 3>their eyes and that way he do that crossover stop,

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<v Speaker 3>big back, stip back, do this, do that. That's something

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<v Speaker 3>he's been working on since, you know, since he can

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<v Speaker 3>pick up a basketball. So I say that to say this,

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<v Speaker 3>You got a dad that played the game, played thirteen

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<v Speaker 3>years in the NBA, you know, and who's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>there like your manager, you know, but great guy, great player. Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't even kiss is. I have told him. I

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<v Speaker 3>call him later.

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<v Speaker 2>The good news is he's going to be a part

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<v Speaker 2>of the Spartan family for life, just like his father

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<v Speaker 2>and all his predecessors. So look, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 2>a great run, got to the elite. He was not

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<v Speaker 2>able to punch a ticket to the final four, and

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't look like that's in the cards. His father played

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<v Speaker 2>two seasons on campus in Michigan State before then eventually

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<v Speaker 2>going to the NBA Jason better than his dad. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess so he's gone as a true freshman. H so good,

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<v Speaker 2>best of luck to him.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, hold on straight, hold on, lord, I don't say

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<v Speaker 3>better than his dad. Me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, Hey, listen, when you're talking about he

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<v Speaker 2>is five, his ability to get out in one year,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what you're gonna grade him on. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying that he's a dunker like his dad, but listen,

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<v Speaker 2>at the same age he is definitely viewed it as

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<v Speaker 2>a higher draft pick than his dad was at the

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<v Speaker 2>same age.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a fact straight. His dad went five. Jason not

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<v Speaker 3>going five as a sophomore. His dad went five. So

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<v Speaker 3>what did we say.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's a whole other year. That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I would tell Jason to come back then and see

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<v Speaker 3>if you go five.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, man, listen, he ain't coming back. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't make any sense for him to do that. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, like you said, I don't think there's

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<v Speaker 2>any It was no talk to him not hiring an agent,

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<v Speaker 2>because you can do that in basketball. Not hiring h

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<v Speaker 2>go test the waters and then come back. Potentially, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a rap you're talking about. Somebody who is a definite

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<v Speaker 2>lottery pick. This is where we're at. I only want

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<v Speaker 2>to know how much two championship caliber starters costs. Can't miss,

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<v Speaker 2>gotta buy smart. That's Action Jackson. Okay, they want to know.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody wants to know. Action Jackson wants to know how

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<v Speaker 2>much it costs. You got the money. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if this is like one of them deve Portnoy things.

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<v Speaker 2>He's putting up the dollars. Is that what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Action? Talk to him.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not decided as a yet. We're gonna get into

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<v Speaker 2>talk about women's basketball. Girl Julia are y'all. She represented

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<v Speaker 2>at the Lily Women's College All Star Game.

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<v Speaker 1>This is your girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me that ship, Give me that ship. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 2>it's her last hurrah right there. Like to see that

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<v Speaker 2>out of her. Also, let's not forget high honor for

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<v Speaker 2>had been named MSU's nominees for the inaugural Big Ten

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<v Speaker 2>best of luck to both of those great representatives of

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a big deal. That's a big deal right there.

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<v Speaker 2>So we want to give them kudos and props for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see if they can pull that one home and

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<v Speaker 2>The first we got to talk about making your nil

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<v Speaker 2>year old Luca Wright to join the team as their

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<v Speaker 2>top recruit for the season. Luca is currently taking on

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<v Speaker 2>For every strikeout that Zero collects this season, he's in

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<v Speaker 2>for your fellow Spartan today at CGA Athletics dot or soever.

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<v Speaker 2>Mischigan State spring football is look like. And the NFL Draft.

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<v Speaker 2>That's something we haven't been able to cover. Pro Day

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, I how Woody, how Hawaii?

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<v Speaker 2>Checking in? That just showed up on my computer. Mercy,

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<v Speaker 2>hey Woody, Amen, you know we're here for you, buddy,

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<v Speaker 2>We are here for you.

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<v Speaker 3>What is living the life? Brother?

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<v Speaker 2>People need to follow him if they don't know now

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<v Speaker 2>you know I'm gonna tell you right now. Listen, right now, swerve.

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<v Speaker 2>It is time to bring on our special guests. A

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<v Speaker 2>native of Lancing, Michigan, a graduate of Eastern High School

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<v Speaker 2>locally in Lancing, went on to play football at the

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<v Speaker 2>University of Note. Youre dame and now it's a certified

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<v Speaker 2>NFL agent for probably the finest NFL agency in the

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<v Speaker 2>land athletes. First, let's bring on the one, the only

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<v Speaker 2>Travis Allen who joins. This is spartan Travis show, What's up?

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<v Speaker 3>Holdlo on straight that picture? If you go back with

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<v Speaker 3>the guy they had on the Michigan State Trapp didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have on Michigan State, did it. I hope he didn't. No, Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>please please don't travel. I don't want to. I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to have to have no problems. Brother.

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<v Speaker 6>Like I said, I grew up a party you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I know it's spartan podcast, so I had to show

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit of love.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad you didn't have on the Spartan Chirt.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it, man, Hey man, we appreciate you taking

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<v Speaker 2>the time. And I know you out on the West

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<v Speaker 2>coast right now, it's barely rushed out out there in California.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, early out here wrapping up work. So I'm

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<v Speaker 6>definitely definitely glad to jump on. I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys absolutely, man.

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<v Speaker 2>So talk about a little bit like your day, like

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah players, Every day is different.

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<v Speaker 6>I always tell people, you know, this part of the year,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, our guys are getting ready to get back,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, into Ota. Some of our guys that you know,

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<v Speaker 6>coming into new coaching staffs are able to report early.

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<v Speaker 6>Then we'll have a few guys heading here in a

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<v Speaker 6>few weeks. But basically just wrapped up prode's for our rookies.

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<v Speaker 6>They were out here in Orange County and a couple

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<v Speaker 6>other locations around the country just training for the combine,

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<v Speaker 6>training for Pro Day. You know, now they're on their

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<v Speaker 6>top thirty visits. Basically teams can bring in thirty players

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<v Speaker 6>that they select to bring in for additional visits. So

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<v Speaker 6>you know, guys are going around doing that. These next

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<v Speaker 6>couple of weeks and then from there is draft time.

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<v Speaker 6>So for us, obviously, you know, scheduling, scheduling visits, getting

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<v Speaker 6>guys that are transitioning back into to their their pro workouts,

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<v Speaker 6>So we're doing you know, uh n il for guys,

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<v Speaker 7>You know, it never ends.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you talked about a lot of things right

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<v Speaker 2>there when you talked about the NFL process. But when

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<v Speaker 2>you want to recruit players, it used to be when

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<v Speaker 2>probably in your your junior year of college, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes not till your senior year whenever you were making

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<v Speaker 2>noise and being draft becoming draft eligible. But now with

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<v Speaker 2>the event of the n i L in a transfer portal,

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<v Speaker 2>era a lot of agencies and I mean you you

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<v Speaker 2>guys are there's there's nobody bigger and better with the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of players that you guys have at the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>level and coaches as well. You guys are now representing

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<v Speaker 2>college athletes. If I'm not mistaken.

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<v Speaker 6>only a couple of years old now, but you know,

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<v Speaker 6>starting to talk to guys at you know, high school

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<v Speaker 6>early into college, you know, going into their freshman year,

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<v Speaker 6>whether that's helping do their collective deal or you know,

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<v Speaker 6>working on brand partnerships for these guys, and then in

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<v Speaker 6>an advisor, right like this is this is new to

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<v Speaker 7>It's new to to them of what to expect, you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know, as they're you know, navigating different visits and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>having these conversations with with the people at the school.

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<v Speaker 6>It's good to have a resource that has been through it,

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<v Speaker 6>has dealt with a lot of the top players, has

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<v Speaker 6>dealt with a lot of these top universities, just kind

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<v Speaker 6>of giving these guys, you know a little more guidance

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<v Speaker 6>going through it so they're not being taken advantage of.

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<v Speaker 7>We've seen that in our space.

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<v Speaker 6>Unfortunately with you know, people charging players twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 6>of the day, really not do a whole lot if

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<v Speaker 6>there's going into a school and okay, hey here's the

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<v Speaker 6>offer and we're going to take twenty percent off the

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<v Speaker 6>top because you know, we're the one to bring it

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<v Speaker 6>to the to the student.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, to us, it just it's not right.

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<v Speaker 6>And for us, it's more about representing these guys at

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<v Speaker 6>the NFL level, So as much as we can work

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<v Speaker 6>for them at the high school college level, kind of

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<v Speaker 6>show what we're about, show how we do business. You

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<v Speaker 6>have that time to build a relationship. You know that

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<v Speaker 6>that's where we see the value. You know, we're not

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<v Speaker 6>looking to get rich on nil or colective space and

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<v Speaker 6>we're an NFL agency, but we do think it's important

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<v Speaker 6>to provide these kids and families with the right right resources,

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<v Speaker 6>surround them with the right people.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. I mean he talking about you know, Swerve is

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<v Speaker 2>You know, his son's got every offer known to mankind

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<v Speaker 2>and you know he has a Mottol one dollar mode.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, talking to Day, it's like like what do you

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<v Speaker 1>what are you working with you? What do you?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you tell him when he's looking at you know,

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<v Speaker 2>his son trying to make a decision on where to

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's actually funny. I didn't know you were with

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<v Speaker 6>We're all I actually just talked to Hose day to day.

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<v Speaker 7>Stay tuned. I think we're working together real soon. Here.

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<v Speaker 6>I can't let it out too much, but uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>like like that, you know, talking to someone like him

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<v Speaker 6>who has you know, e seled on seventeen and you

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<v Speaker 6>know a lot of these kids, and he's like, look,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm seeing my kids getting take advantage of or you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm trying to protect them and surround them with the

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<v Speaker 7>So, you know, finding partnerships like that.

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<v Speaker 6>But for us, same thing maximizing dollars, you know, and

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<v Speaker 6>we tell our guys at the NFL level too, when

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<v Speaker 6>you're doing your second contract, this could be it. So

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<v Speaker 6>we're never going to take a deal that we feel

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<v Speaker 6>is below your market value or you know, the guaranteed

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<v Speaker 6>structures not there, the language of the contracts not there,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, at the end of the day, the

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<v Speaker 6>lot of different things you can do that teams can do. Right,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe it's a backloaded contract with now you're making the

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<v Speaker 7>Paid you know, average per year deal.

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<v Speaker 6>But if you really peel it back and look at

420
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<v Speaker 6>you know, what's your guaranteed h pay, what's what's the

421
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<v Speaker 6>cash flow? How much money you getting up front that

422
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<v Speaker 6>you can take and invest. You know, we look at

423
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<v Speaker 6>all those things. So we're never going to do the

424
00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:07.960
<v Speaker 6>deal that makes us look good. It's gonna be the

425
00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:10.559
<v Speaker 6>deal that's right for the player. You know, if if

426
00:23:10.559 --> 00:23:13.039
<v Speaker 6>you owe us one of my colleagues say, if you

427
00:23:13.240 --> 00:23:15.200
<v Speaker 6>if you owe us ten, we're getting ten. We're gonna

428
00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:17.480
<v Speaker 6>go for eleven, but we're getting ten. We're not taking

429
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<v Speaker 6>nine ninety nine. So yeah, yeah, So I've heard him

430
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<v Speaker 6>say that a number of times. And trust when you

431
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<v Speaker 6>see all the deals he does is and we do

432
00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:28.680
<v Speaker 6>here athletes first, we follow that model.

433
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you just said a whole lot right there. Man,

434
00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:34.680
<v Speaker 2>you said you could talk to the whole say over

435
00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:36.160
<v Speaker 2>there about uh the.

436
00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Wrow So that's not that's high school level. So yeah, yeah,

437
00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:42.480
<v Speaker 1>talk about that. Yeah.

438
00:23:42.519 --> 00:23:45.440
<v Speaker 6>So I mean, uh, basically, you know, he's like, look,

439
00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:47.160
<v Speaker 6>I got guys that in college, are you ready to

440
00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:49.000
<v Speaker 6>hit the portal? Or guys that are upcoming in this

441
00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:52.720
<v Speaker 6>next high school cycle and just want them to have

442
00:23:53.079 --> 00:23:56.039
<v Speaker 6>you know, be surrounded by people have done it, people

443
00:23:56.039 --> 00:23:57.519
<v Speaker 6>have done it at a high level, people that we

444
00:23:57.519 --> 00:24:01.160
<v Speaker 6>respect and trust, and these families can respect and trust.

445
00:24:02.359 --> 00:24:03.759
<v Speaker 6>And so yeah, like you said, it's it's a high

446
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<v Speaker 6>school level.

447
00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:04.720
<v Speaker 7>It's early.

448
00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:08.160
<v Speaker 6>Uh, it's it's a it's a whole different world than

449
00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:09.279
<v Speaker 6>it was a couple of years ago. But we know

450
00:24:09.319 --> 00:24:12.440
<v Speaker 6>it's important, it's important to build these relationships at a

451
00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:16.000
<v Speaker 6>young age. And we know, on the other than, what

452
00:24:16.039 --> 00:24:17.799
<v Speaker 6>could happen if you know, if you're not surrounded by

453
00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:18.720
<v Speaker 6>the right people.

454
00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:20.440
<v Speaker 7>We've we've seen it.

455
00:24:20.440 --> 00:24:22.400
<v Speaker 6>We've gotten guys out of deals where they're paying an

456
00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:26.240
<v Speaker 6>agent twenty five percent to do who knows what right.

457
00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:28.880
<v Speaker 6>So for us, it's like you at least know you're

458
00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:31.960
<v Speaker 6>getting top of level work and we're not going to

459
00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:34.119
<v Speaker 6>charge you armored leg because that's again not a money

460
00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:37.279
<v Speaker 6>maker us. We want these players to get situated, make

461
00:24:37.319 --> 00:24:39.000
<v Speaker 6>money and makes as much money as they can in college,

462
00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:40.480
<v Speaker 6>and then get ready for the next level.

463
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<v Speaker 2>Man, swear, what do you think about that?

464
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<v Speaker 6>Man?

465
00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:49.880
<v Speaker 7>We'll be talking about.

466
00:24:53.240 --> 00:24:55.680
<v Speaker 1>The the silent to give them singals.

467
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we're on the same page, Grandpa.

468
00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:04.119
<v Speaker 3>You say, what's understood, what's explained, what's understood, don't have

469
00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:04.440
<v Speaker 3>to be.

470
00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:07.039
<v Speaker 7>Explained exactly exactly.

471
00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:11.839
<v Speaker 3>Can't take me, So so take me. I want to.

472
00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:13.720
<v Speaker 3>I want to show the fans in there, and I

473
00:25:13.720 --> 00:25:16.079
<v Speaker 3>don't say fans no more because we all family here.

474
00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:19.200
<v Speaker 3>Take me, like, how do how do I become an agent?

475
00:25:19.279 --> 00:25:21.920
<v Speaker 3>Like I was just in Nor the Dame playing football?

476
00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:26.359
<v Speaker 3>What made me? What made trap to make that right

477
00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:29.400
<v Speaker 3>to to being an agent? Like what was the thought process?

478
00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:32.279
<v Speaker 3>And how did football go in Nor the day? You know,

479
00:25:32.359 --> 00:25:33.799
<v Speaker 3>let us know your your career.

480
00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:38.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, so getting in the agency space, I'll start there. Well,

481
00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:41.319
<v Speaker 6>I'll go back to to Notre Dame. Yeah, I came

482
00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:45.799
<v Speaker 6>out Lancey Eastern. You know, didn't have any any big

483
00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:48.359
<v Speaker 6>time offers, you know some D two offers, talk to

484
00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:52.359
<v Speaker 6>some heavy league schools and actually gotten the Notre Dame

485
00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:55.680
<v Speaker 6>on an academic ride. And I know I.

486
00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:59.200
<v Speaker 7>Knows my daddy. You know, if it was basically like that,

487
00:25:59.279 --> 00:25:59.839
<v Speaker 7>that's where you're going.

488
00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:00.920
<v Speaker 2>That's real.

489
00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:05.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so red nos is basically you know, you have

490
00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:08.000
<v Speaker 6>opportunity to go to Notre Dame. Uh, get out of Lansing.

491
00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:10.039
<v Speaker 6>You know, I know football is important, but you got

492
00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:13.039
<v Speaker 6>to think longer than that. And you know, once I

493
00:26:13.079 --> 00:26:15.039
<v Speaker 6>got there. I had the opportunity to walk on and

494
00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:17.920
<v Speaker 6>walked on at Notre Dame. So that was a great experience,

495
00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:20.799
<v Speaker 6>a lot different than when you know, you're in high school,

496
00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:21.599
<v Speaker 6>you feel like you're the guy.

497
00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:23.240
<v Speaker 7>You feel like you want to be that guy. But

498
00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:24.359
<v Speaker 7>now it's a different role.

499
00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:26.680
<v Speaker 6>But you learn to play your role and you know,

500
00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:28.519
<v Speaker 6>do something for your brothers and for your school. And

501
00:26:28.680 --> 00:26:31.440
<v Speaker 6>I mean to play high level division in football and

502
00:26:31.480 --> 00:26:33.279
<v Speaker 6>Notre Dame for me was a dream, you know, like

503
00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:34.920
<v Speaker 6>I always wanted to be a spartan.

504
00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:37.160
<v Speaker 7>They didn't come come knocking or come calling, so you know,

505
00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:37.839
<v Speaker 7>I had to go there.

506
00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:42.200
<v Speaker 6>But it's a great experience and from that, honestly open

507
00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:45.680
<v Speaker 6>doors to a couple of different roles. I was working

508
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:48.519
<v Speaker 6>in sales in Detroit for a company called ian J. Galla,

509
00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:51.480
<v Speaker 6>which is a Notre Dame family owned company. You know,

510
00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:53.880
<v Speaker 6>the Irish definitely take care of their own, which is

511
00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:56.960
<v Speaker 6>which is huge. And I was coaching high school football

512
00:26:57.000 --> 00:27:00.000
<v Speaker 6>brother Rice at the time, so staying around the game

513
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:02.440
<v Speaker 6>and just was missing it. Every day I was leaving

514
00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:04.880
<v Speaker 6>work and I'm like excited to go to football. Wasn't

515
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:06.559
<v Speaker 6>excited to go back to work, you know, good job,

516
00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:08.559
<v Speaker 6>good pay, all that stuff, but you know, it wasn't

517
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:11.599
<v Speaker 6>passionate about it. And Lucky, like I said, Notre Dame

518
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:14.440
<v Speaker 6>is a great alumni network, you know, people that really care.

519
00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:16.079
<v Speaker 6>And made a couple of calls to some people in

520
00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:18.640
<v Speaker 6>the football building. And if you know the name Reggie Brooks,

521
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:22.240
<v Speaker 6>you know, Reggie Brooks was you know, huge to me

522
00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:24.880
<v Speaker 6>and just you know, someone I could talk to event

523
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:27.799
<v Speaker 6>you know, bounce ideas off of. And he was like, man,

524
00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:30.240
<v Speaker 6>I think you should think about you know, the sports

525
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:34.039
<v Speaker 6>agency world. His business, his people is football, and he's like,

526
00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:36.319
<v Speaker 6>I just I think you should, you know, think about

527
00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:37.960
<v Speaker 6>it and let me know and I can try to

528
00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:41.319
<v Speaker 6>make some calls And ended up taking an internship, quitting

529
00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:43.880
<v Speaker 6>my job in twenty nineteen. I was twenty four years old,

530
00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:46.400
<v Speaker 6>drove across country to California from who I was living

531
00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:49.839
<v Speaker 6>in Detroit, took an internship, intern for about ten months,

532
00:27:50.079 --> 00:27:52.599
<v Speaker 6>and then was brought on full time, so you know,

533
00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:56.480
<v Speaker 6>did a little bit of everything in that internship, you know,

534
00:27:56.559 --> 00:27:59.039
<v Speaker 6>then had to go get my master's degree while I

535
00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:02.000
<v Speaker 6>was working there kind of as a football associate, and

536
00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:03.240
<v Speaker 6>then became a certified agent.

537
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:04.599
<v Speaker 7>Towards the end of twenty twenty one.

538
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:08.480
<v Speaker 6>So it's definitely been a journey, you know, from to

539
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:10.599
<v Speaker 6>be an agent, you know, you have to have a

540
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:12.640
<v Speaker 6>grad degree of some sort. You have to pass the

541
00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:16.559
<v Speaker 6>NFLPA certification exam and then from there.

542
00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:19.759
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean that's that's basically it. You're able to you.

543
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:23.359
<v Speaker 6>Know, recruit and sign players and basically got them through

544
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:23.799
<v Speaker 6>their career.

545
00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Man, that's an interesting journey right there.

546
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:29.039
<v Speaker 2>And you talk about you your journey obviously a guy

547
00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:32.200
<v Speaker 2>who had to go to class, not like everybody that's

548
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:33.039
<v Speaker 2>on this podcast.

549
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:35.119
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying no names, but.

550
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Ivy League you turned them down, and you know, you

551
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:41.279
<v Speaker 2>have to go to Notre Dame on a full academic scholarship,

552
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:43.799
<v Speaker 2>and I think Notre Dame, you know you do have

553
00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:45.000
<v Speaker 2>to go to class and get there.

554
00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:45.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

555
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Now seeing what you know now, looking at you know,

556
00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:52.240
<v Speaker 2>you came into twenty twenty one, and how the landscape

557
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:55.319
<v Speaker 2>has changed in college athletics. You see now with the

558
00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:58.079
<v Speaker 2>nil chance for portal and all these agents. You talked

559
00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:03.079
<v Speaker 2>about agents gouging kids twenty five percent and whatnot. You know,

560
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:05.720
<v Speaker 2>we're going to get into the house settlement case. But

561
00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:09.920
<v Speaker 2>should there be some kind of stipulation as to some

562
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:13.440
<v Speaker 2>with agents in the collegiate level, because in the NFL level,

563
00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:16.519
<v Speaker 2>we know you have the past college you don't.

564
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:18.839
<v Speaker 7>Right right now, that's that's correct.

565
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:21.640
<v Speaker 6>And we saw a lot of people popping up as

566
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:26.400
<v Speaker 6>marketing agents and and uh, college agents when you know,

567
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:28.480
<v Speaker 6>as soon as and IL became a thing, and they

568
00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:30.279
<v Speaker 6>may have not ever worked for an agency, they may

569
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:32.559
<v Speaker 6>have not even ever done marketing, but they saw this

570
00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:36.240
<v Speaker 6>opportunity to you know, possibly make some money on on

571
00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:40.000
<v Speaker 6>these kids who are doing brand deals or you know,

572
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:44.519
<v Speaker 6>sign with these schools. And you know, obviously it's concerning

573
00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:47.319
<v Speaker 6>when you know, you hear a player like, oh, I'm.

574
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:50.039
<v Speaker 7>Paying an agent twenty twenty five percent and I really don't

575
00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:51.240
<v Speaker 7>know what he does, you know.

576
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:53.440
<v Speaker 6>And we hooked up when I was this first started

577
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:55.759
<v Speaker 6>and it sounded good and he said he was a

578
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:57.799
<v Speaker 6>marketing agent and you know, said all the right things.

579
00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:00.680
<v Speaker 6>But you know, we've seen those stories where you know,

580
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:02.160
<v Speaker 6>if they didn't really get.

581
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>What they.

582
00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:07.480
<v Speaker 6>I don't know how they do how they regulated at

583
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:10.440
<v Speaker 6>the collegiate level. I think the biggest thing that we've

584
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:12.559
<v Speaker 6>tried to do is is make these schools and make

585
00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:13.799
<v Speaker 6>these gms.

586
00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:14.880
<v Speaker 7>What's going on.

587
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:18.319
<v Speaker 6>If we're who says, man, I'm getting charged twenty percent,

588
00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:21.119
<v Speaker 6>We're gonna tell the school like, hey, look, this is

589
00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:22.720
<v Speaker 6>going on in your own program. I think you should

590
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:24.359
<v Speaker 6>be aware of it, and I think you should be,

591
00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:27.279
<v Speaker 6>you know, speaking with your kids or bringing someone who can,

592
00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:29.720
<v Speaker 6>not even from an athlete's first perspective, but just from an

593
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:33.759
<v Speaker 6>agent perspective in general, be able to talk what to

594
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:36.640
<v Speaker 6>look for, the dues and don'ts, how to vet agents,

595
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:38.599
<v Speaker 6>how to go through this process and make sure you're

596
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:41.079
<v Speaker 6>not being taken advantage of it, and the families as well.

597
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:45.599
<v Speaker 6>So again, I don't know how you regulate the college

598
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:47.480
<v Speaker 6>level and all these different people that are out there,

599
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:49.599
<v Speaker 6>but if you can at least educate them or educate

600
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:52.039
<v Speaker 6>the schools I think are doing a better job now

601
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:54.799
<v Speaker 6>of being aware of what's going on, that's at least

602
00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:56.279
<v Speaker 6>a step forward.

603
00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:00.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely step in the right direction, because you know,

604
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:02.759
<v Speaker 2>we're seeing it a lot, you know, Cedric and the

605
00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:06.039
<v Speaker 2>test of this, you know, having one son at Stanford

606
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:09.039
<v Speaker 2>and then another at IMG Academy right now, I've just

607
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:12.559
<v Speaker 2>had two at IMG, one at the school down the road,

608
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:15.440
<v Speaker 2>I know, Ship, I mean Notre Dame and Michigan State

609
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.240
<v Speaker 2>can't stand some bitches where were my son go to

610
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:21.279
<v Speaker 2>school at and where Cedric is gonna be this next weekend.

611
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:25.400
<v Speaker 2>But look, that's besides the point we're looking at. Like,

612
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:29.079
<v Speaker 2>so when you're when you're seeing all these people out

613
00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:33.680
<v Speaker 2>here right now, and where are you seeing the most

614
00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:38.519
<v Speaker 2>aggressive schools so to speak, you are communicating with general

615
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:42.680
<v Speaker 2>managers and coaching staffs and all around the country. What

616
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:45.240
<v Speaker 2>do you where do you see h Like, you know

617
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:47.400
<v Speaker 2>this is keep it up, keep it Where is the

618
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:49.960
<v Speaker 2>most I guess where are people putting their money where

619
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:50.759
<v Speaker 2>their mouth is.

620
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:54.920
<v Speaker 7>Just like when it was illegal.

621
00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:57.400
<v Speaker 6>You know, SEC has a lot of money that they're

622
00:31:57.559 --> 00:32:01.880
<v Speaker 6>you know, uh willing to build these rosters. But we

623
00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:05.119
<v Speaker 6>I think the big name schools with the big time donors,

624
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:10.319
<v Speaker 6>Ohio State, Notre Dame stepped up. We see Texas interesting enough,

625
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:14.759
<v Speaker 6>Texas Tech, you know, like different schools that are there.

626
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:16.279
<v Speaker 6>People are coming bhind them like, look, we want to

627
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:17.920
<v Speaker 6>turn this thing around. So what do you guys need.

628
00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:19.880
<v Speaker 6>I know it is a big thing out there with

629
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:22.039
<v Speaker 6>Ohio State, like all they built their roster, but I

630
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:24.599
<v Speaker 6>mean you could do it and they have they have

631
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:28.480
<v Speaker 6>the resources, so I know it's things will change with

632
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:30.440
<v Speaker 6>the you know, house settlement things coming like that, but

633
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:32.519
<v Speaker 6>I know collectors will still be there, still be around,

634
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:34.759
<v Speaker 6>and these big name programs will still be able to

635
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:36.759
<v Speaker 6>you know, attract the top talent.

636
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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. What do you think about that's word?

637
00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:45.079
<v Speaker 3>I mean it paid off, you know. And he mentioned

638
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:48.720
<v Speaker 3>the name Ohio State, Ohio State twenty two million, and

639
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:50.960
<v Speaker 3>let's let's play what if you know we we keep

640
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:54.079
<v Speaker 3>it real on this shows Ohio State twenty two million,

641
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:59.519
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty five million, Michigan State three.

642
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:04.960
<v Speaker 1>D oh, no, man gonna come home, man, little more

643
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:15.039
<v Speaker 1>than that? What we wouldn't have seen?

644
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:20.480
<v Speaker 3>What I'm saying, just like what Tramp said, Bill your roster, right,

645
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:23.599
<v Speaker 3>they got they got players, They got a safety all

646
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:26.960
<v Speaker 3>American safety from Alabama that probably costs one between one

647
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:31.720
<v Speaker 3>five and two million, right, we got players from Joe Montana,

648
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:37.079
<v Speaker 3>Joe Montana University. No, I'm just saying, what if right track,

649
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:40.240
<v Speaker 3>we're talking about Bill Rota, Right, Hey, what's that.

650
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:44.400
<v Speaker 2>You're talking about? You're talking about Kaylea Downs from.

651
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:49.200
<v Speaker 3>Down the safety right who represents Kyle Downs?

652
00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:50.680
<v Speaker 7>I'm not sure?

653
00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Hmm okay, but whoever he went to Ohio State with

654
00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:59.680
<v Speaker 3>add twenty five million. Right, if you look at the roster,

655
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:03.480
<v Speaker 3>trap just say, build your roster. We building out roster

656
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:05.480
<v Speaker 3>with a player from Joe Muntowner University.

657
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:06.240
<v Speaker 2>That's all I'm saying.

658
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:07.440
<v Speaker 1>State.

659
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:09.599
<v Speaker 3>Oh my bad, I thought it was Joe.

660
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I never heard.

661
00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:12.239
<v Speaker 3>So you're right, my my.

662
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:16.559
<v Speaker 7>There there's some good players from the schools, some sneaky players.

663
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:18.280
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it is, it is, it is.

664
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:20.079
<v Speaker 7>It is tough. It is tough.

665
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:23.280
<v Speaker 6>It's uh, could you see, like like you said, I mean,

666
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:26.199
<v Speaker 6>these these schools are just opening opening a bank account

667
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:31.440
<v Speaker 6>for these players. So yeah, it'll be interesting with you know,

668
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:33.960
<v Speaker 6>the settlement and the cap and all that.

669
00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:36.920
<v Speaker 7>But again, you know collectives are going the way. It

670
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:38.519
<v Speaker 7>will kind of be like a supplement to that.

671
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Hey look, so swear you keep talking about guys like

672
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:47.440
<v Speaker 2>like you from the small schools. There's a school called

673
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Sacramento State and we have a player running back from

674
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:53.880
<v Speaker 2>there by the name Elijah tal Toller. We had them

675
00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:57.159
<v Speaker 2>on the show. You remember him, Okay? You know also

676
00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:02.679
<v Speaker 2>from the same school, right, remember you know Scataboo from

677
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Arizona State, like him? Was he?

678
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:08.320
<v Speaker 1>All right? Yeah?

679
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:12.000
<v Speaker 7>There, just gotta just gotta find.

680
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:17.960
<v Speaker 8>Them catib was all so no, no, no, don't run,

681
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:22.639
<v Speaker 8>don't run all them ask you now waiting Gallabou, Scalli

682
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:26.360
<v Speaker 8>Boo Boo Bobo ran pretty hard, made some plays.

683
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:30.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, grid offense, you know good quarterback, you know

684
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:34.039
<v Speaker 3>played they played well. So you're trying to say the

685
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:38.159
<v Speaker 3>running back that we have now from Sacramento University, State

686
00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:43.800
<v Speaker 3>of h S b c U. Man, okay, sick, my bad.

687
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:45.880
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was extra stuff. So he's gonna run

688
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:51.880
<v Speaker 3>like Scotti Boo Bobo saying if you don't when we

689
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:56.360
<v Speaker 3>come back on the show, just listen.

690
00:35:56.519 --> 00:35:58.639
<v Speaker 2>I was at practice. I did not see that much.

691
00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:00.320
<v Speaker 2>I didn't see that. I didn see him. He got

692
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:03.360
<v Speaker 2>some speed on him though, you know, you know Scatablu

693
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Scotti had a little mike allstarted it. Man, I don't know.

694
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:08.719
<v Speaker 2>He's a little different, little.

695
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:11.639
<v Speaker 1>Faster than all. You know for sure.

696
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:15.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean he's like a Day two type of player, right.

697
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:17.719
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, he could. I mean he could fall in that

698
00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:21.039
<v Speaker 7>late day too early day three. I mean, he's he's

699
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:22.000
<v Speaker 7>the heck of a player.

700
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:22.480
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

701
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:24.400
<v Speaker 7>I know he had their program. I'm not sure. I

702
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:26.920
<v Speaker 7>can't remember how he tested, but from what he did,

703
00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:28.199
<v Speaker 7>you know, towards the end of the season. I know

704
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:29.039
<v Speaker 7>he caught.

705
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:31.880
<v Speaker 6>Some some people's eyes. So and the running back is

706
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:33.320
<v Speaker 6>is it's coming back.

707
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.480
<v Speaker 3>So now try let me ask you this, and it's

708
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:41.840
<v Speaker 3>funny we have you on the show today. Okay, let's

709
00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:43.920
<v Speaker 3>let the cat that bag of the cat that had

710
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:46.480
<v Speaker 3>have it as saying that Lewis should go listen to this,

711
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:50.440
<v Speaker 3>and I think it could happen. What you think should

712
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:54.159
<v Speaker 3>door Sanders? Right, I saw something where he could fall

713
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:58.599
<v Speaker 3>to Pittsburgh at twenty. And I always think it could

714
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:00.480
<v Speaker 3>happen because you think of the Randy More losses of

715
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:02.920
<v Speaker 3>the draft, and you know, you don't know if people

716
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:06.119
<v Speaker 3>want to just say, you know what, middle finger to Dion.

717
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:08.719
<v Speaker 3>But I saw a draft and I looked at the

718
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:11.400
<v Speaker 3>draft play team by team, I'm like, damn that that

719
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:15.079
<v Speaker 3>really could happen. If if Giants taken the guy from

720
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:17.639
<v Speaker 3>Penn State, nobody else need a quarterback.

721
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:22.280
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yes, we still tell our guys. At this point,

722
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:25.440
<v Speaker 6>nothing said, right, it's gonna change now. Teams are finally

723
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:28.639
<v Speaker 6>the protest over there, getting the rooms set up their boards,

724
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:32.199
<v Speaker 6>you know, starting to figure out who they want. And

725
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:34.159
<v Speaker 6>he saw it with the quarterback class a couple of

726
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:36.079
<v Speaker 6>years ago where they thought, you know, Malik Willis and

727
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:38.800
<v Speaker 6>Kenny Pickett and uh mac corrall, they'd all be first

728
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:40.719
<v Speaker 6>round picks and only one of them win the first round.

729
00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:43.480
<v Speaker 6>He went to Pittsburgh as well, So anything can happened

730
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:45.719
<v Speaker 6>on that draft day, and one pick can you know,

731
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:47.079
<v Speaker 6>throw off a number of other picks.

732
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:49.920
<v Speaker 7>So again, possible, very possible.

733
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:52.679
<v Speaker 6>He's a good player for sure, But like you said,

734
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:54.280
<v Speaker 6>if there's teams out there that don't don't need a

735
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:56.840
<v Speaker 6>quarterback or they think he'll be around later, you know

736
00:37:56.840 --> 00:37:57.920
<v Speaker 6>they're gonna hang tight.

737
00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:02.239
<v Speaker 3>So that not throwing the at the comforts thing in

738
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:05.800
<v Speaker 3>the in the in the in the come by, do that?

739
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:08.599
<v Speaker 3>Do that? Do that hurt a person like that? No?

740
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:11.000
<v Speaker 7>I mean he was able to do everything at pro Day,

741
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:12.360
<v Speaker 7>which I think is fine.

742
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:14.639
<v Speaker 6>Obviously they had a big turnout at prode with him

743
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:18.000
<v Speaker 6>and Travis Hunter, and you know obviously all thirty two

744
00:38:18.039 --> 00:38:19.280
<v Speaker 6>teams coming to see those guys.

745
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:22.559
<v Speaker 7>Soud. I don't think that that hurt him.

746
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:25.920
<v Speaker 2>But you know, to that point, I think there's no

747
00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:28.800
<v Speaker 2>way in hell Shadua Sanders is going to fall that

748
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:31.199
<v Speaker 2>far in the draft. For a couple of reasons. The

749
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:34.400
<v Speaker 2>main reason is he's a quarterback in the league where

750
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:37.559
<v Speaker 2>they're paying quarterbacks over fifty million dollars now, so if

751
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:40.760
<v Speaker 2>he happens to be okay, then you have a hell

752
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:42.679
<v Speaker 2>of a discount for a few years taking him in

753
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:46.760
<v Speaker 2>an Olympic. And also, i mean, hell, the intrinsic value

754
00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:50.000
<v Speaker 2>of being a damn Sanders. Okay, you got a star value,

755
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:53.159
<v Speaker 2>star power, Jersey sales, filling up the stadium, and that's

756
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.599
<v Speaker 2>what owners like to do. Brother, So I don't see

757
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:58.440
<v Speaker 2>that ever being a possibility for him to fall that

758
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:02.840
<v Speaker 2>low because of the those things specifically with us your door.

759
00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:05.800
<v Speaker 2>But to your point when you said, you know you

760
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:09.599
<v Speaker 2>have guys like him that are you know, that are

761
00:39:09.639 --> 00:39:12.880
<v Speaker 2>able to do the pro day and throwing, like that's

762
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:15.880
<v Speaker 2>something that's sad brought up. If you don't throw. I've

763
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:18.039
<v Speaker 2>seen a lot of guys, you know, and this is

764
00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:22.519
<v Speaker 2>speaking to the value of having great representation that decide

765
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:26.519
<v Speaker 2>to do things that they're not good at. And with hell,

766
00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:28.719
<v Speaker 2>there's no way you don't know, Like I've seen guys

767
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:32.840
<v Speaker 2>that go and run very slow times and then and

768
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:37.599
<v Speaker 2>they if they didn't run, the discount of value based

769
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.920
<v Speaker 2>off of that, he didn't compete versus showing everybody that

770
00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:43.280
<v Speaker 2>you slow as hell, slow as a mother.

771
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:49.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, like you it's poor management, Am I wrong? Yeah?

772
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:52.239
<v Speaker 7>No, I think you're right. I think you know.

773
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:56.800
<v Speaker 6>Everything needs to be thought about, everything needs to be calculated.

774
00:39:56.840 --> 00:39:59.239
<v Speaker 6>And again, if you know someone's not where they need

775
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:03.239
<v Speaker 6>to be to go put them on uh front stage

776
00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:05.840
<v Speaker 6>and show the world that, hey, this is if a

777
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:08.400
<v Speaker 6>team thinks you're slow or or you know, even thinks

778
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:10.039
<v Speaker 6>you're a little bit faster than you are, you.

779
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:10.400
<v Speaker 7>You're cool with that.

780
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:13.360
<v Speaker 6>Let's you know, let them think that you don't want

781
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:15.760
<v Speaker 6>to go run slower than what they think you are, right,

782
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:18.199
<v Speaker 6>that's just going to hurt you. And you know, so

783
00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:21.000
<v Speaker 6>if you can, if you come up with a tweet cammy,

784
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:23.400
<v Speaker 6>whatever it is leading up to the combine, you know

785
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:25.480
<v Speaker 6>we're going to do everything or save it till pro

786
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:26.840
<v Speaker 6>thea give them some more time to train and give

787
00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:28.559
<v Speaker 6>us more time to get ready. A lot of these

788
00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:30.760
<v Speaker 6>guys play long seasons and maybe they were they were

789
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:35.159
<v Speaker 6>dinged up, but to throw somebody out there to be like, okay,

790
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:36.719
<v Speaker 6>well we just want to check every box and do

791
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:38.800
<v Speaker 6>every event or a drill at the combine when they're

792
00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:41.280
<v Speaker 6>not ready. I think, yeah, like you said, that's that's

793
00:40:41.320 --> 00:40:44.239
<v Speaker 6>a poor Managers should be case by case and knowing

794
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:46.639
<v Speaker 6>your client and where they're at, and also knowing having

795
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:49.519
<v Speaker 6>the relationships with the teams, with the gms, with the

796
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.639
<v Speaker 6>coaches to really get feedback on each of your guys

797
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:54.360
<v Speaker 6>and know, like, all right, what do teams really think

798
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:57.199
<v Speaker 6>of them? What do teams want to see? You know,

799
00:40:57.239 --> 00:40:59.880
<v Speaker 6>in what boxes do they need to check? Because if

800
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:02.599
<v Speaker 6>you know there's something we could push to PROTI we're

801
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:02.960
<v Speaker 6>gonna do that.

802
00:41:03.039 --> 00:41:03.199
<v Speaker 3>Right.

803
00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:06.119
<v Speaker 7>If they need to answer questions that are more film

804
00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:08.400
<v Speaker 7>or interview prep, like, we're going to focus on that.

805
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:10.719
<v Speaker 6>So you know, having real information on your guys is

806
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:14.960
<v Speaker 6>important too, and just really doing that that groundwork in

807
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:17.920
<v Speaker 6>the background. I think that's the bigger, biggest part of

808
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:19.840
<v Speaker 6>our job, right, you know, not sign a guy and

809
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:22.880
<v Speaker 6>all right, well good luck at comin. We'll see you

810
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.199
<v Speaker 6>after training and you know, we'll see you at the draft.

811
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:27.000
<v Speaker 6>It's like, all right, what homework are you doing for

812
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:28.400
<v Speaker 6>your guys every day?

813
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, and not to throw any spartans under

814
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:35.639
<v Speaker 2>the bus, anybody anybody knows and loves really closely here

815
00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:37.840
<v Speaker 2>under the bus. But I'll bring up a guy and

816
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 2>said that you know this guy pretty well, right because

817
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:42.840
<v Speaker 2>he played at the U. You know, Restrecto, a guy

818
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:46.559
<v Speaker 2>who ends up being the leading all time receiver in

819
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Miami history, goes out and runs a four eight three,

820
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:53.880
<v Speaker 2>and uh, you know when you see something like that,

821
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:57.199
<v Speaker 2>that a guy that could have probably potentially snuck into

822
00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:00.280
<v Speaker 2>the first round. You tell me you study the all

823
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:04.360
<v Speaker 2>the time trap. Is this a situation where he may

824
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:06.639
<v Speaker 2>have really hurt himself by running. If he would have

825
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:10.639
<v Speaker 2>not ran, could have could have helped himself a little bit.

826
00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:11.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

827
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:14.400
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that one's tough because I even saw, you know,

828
00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:17.239
<v Speaker 6>a tweet from him after which you never really know,

829
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:19.400
<v Speaker 6>but where he said he tweaked something and wanted to

830
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:23.079
<v Speaker 6>still fight through it and run. But it's like, you know,

831
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:24.880
<v Speaker 6>you don't know, right, but now you've already put that

832
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:27.159
<v Speaker 6>time out there and that's what it is. So you know,

833
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:29.039
<v Speaker 6>is a team gonna be like, okay, oh he was hurt.

834
00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:30.960
<v Speaker 6>They well, this is what we this is what we

835
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:33.920
<v Speaker 6>got on record now. So I think it's one of

836
00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:38.559
<v Speaker 6>those ones where again like I'm just gonna do receiver drills, right,

837
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:41.400
<v Speaker 6>I think I'm I'm I'm grading and out of my routes.

838
00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:43.000
<v Speaker 7>You know, I'm I catch the ball.

839
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:45.760
<v Speaker 6>Well, whatever it is that is his skill set, let's

840
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:49.320
<v Speaker 6>just go magnify that versus now you have a kind

841
00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:53.119
<v Speaker 6>of a negative mark on your uh you know, draft card.

842
00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:56.559
<v Speaker 3>He would have played like that, right, even if he

843
00:42:56.679 --> 00:42:58.599
<v Speaker 3>do run a ford now, because I think the ford

844
00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:01.400
<v Speaker 3>is just bullshit. You gotta think if he if he

845
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:04.639
<v Speaker 3>if he's that slow, what that say about to the

846
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:07.400
<v Speaker 3>dbs that he played against because he was always open?

847
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:09.599
<v Speaker 7>Right, Yeah, that's true.

848
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:10.719
<v Speaker 1>So it's like.

849
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:15.199
<v Speaker 3>You understand what I'm saying. Then you get the receivers

850
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:18.000
<v Speaker 3>that ran four to three but didn't have the production

851
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:21.440
<v Speaker 3>that he had. So you know, if Bill Belichick was

852
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:23.880
<v Speaker 3>still here, he was going to the Patriots regardless.

853
00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:24.119
<v Speaker 2>You know.

854
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:28.159
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, no, I think I think that's why, you know,

855
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:30.440
<v Speaker 6>we don't put too much weight into.

856
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:32.119
<v Speaker 1>The four.

857
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:34.880
<v Speaker 6>Right, it's important, you know, but at the end of

858
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:36.639
<v Speaker 6>the day, like who are you as a football player?

859
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:37.480
<v Speaker 7>What's your tape?

860
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:38.960
<v Speaker 3>You know?

861
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:41.079
<v Speaker 6>And if if teams have questioning your speed and we

862
00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:43.079
<v Speaker 6>can check that box, that's great, right, it's not gonna

863
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:45.760
<v Speaker 6>help you. But you know, who are you on the

864
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:48.400
<v Speaker 6>field I think is the biggest chunk that goes into

865
00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:52.239
<v Speaker 6>this this process. But then testing is important, right for

866
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:54.559
<v Speaker 6>for whatever reason is it is important to these teams

867
00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:58.000
<v Speaker 6>the interview prep process, the board work, and you know

868
00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:00.400
<v Speaker 6>what you got up here that's important too, So is

869
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:02.360
<v Speaker 6>a combination. At the end of the day, Like I think,

870
00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:03.920
<v Speaker 6>the majority is always going to be what you've done

871
00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:08.920
<v Speaker 6>on the field and what's what you have on tape.

872
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:09.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, speaking of tape and getting back to the

873
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Michigan State side of things, only one player that was

874
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:14.599
<v Speaker 2>invited to the combine, asked Jonathan.

875
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Kim, the kicker.

876
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:18.719
<v Speaker 2>But the pro day went on back in March. I

877
00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:20.800
<v Speaker 2>think it was like mid March, March or twelfth. A

878
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:22.880
<v Speaker 2>lot of players were there, a lot of scouts were

879
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:25.880
<v Speaker 2>in town. I believe all the schools were represented, all

880
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:29.519
<v Speaker 2>the teams represented. Excuse me, but you know Nate Carter

881
00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:32.800
<v Speaker 2>running back. You know it's a guy from western New York,

882
00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:36.719
<v Speaker 2>came in. But he posted ridiculous numbers as a running

883
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:40.000
<v Speaker 2>back running in the four to three level, and I

884
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:42.599
<v Speaker 2>think he put up I think what twenty five reps

885
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:45.519
<v Speaker 2>on the two twenty five ye or the high thirties

886
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:48.159
<v Speaker 2>in the vertical. I mean, he just had a monster day. Now,

887
00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:50.719
<v Speaker 2>as you talked about a minute ago, running backs are

888
00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:53.280
<v Speaker 2>making a comeback because I think of what say Quad

889
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:58.239
<v Speaker 2>did and Philly. Yeah, yes, So what do you think

890
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:01.239
<v Speaker 2>a guy like that his chance? And you know where

891
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:03.679
<v Speaker 2>do you think he goes in this in this upcoming draft?

892
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:05.360
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's tough.

893
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:07.440
<v Speaker 6>I mean it could be could be a late pick,

894
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:11.199
<v Speaker 6>late round pick, you know, especially a guy that has

895
00:45:11.199 --> 00:45:13.840
<v Speaker 6>shown athletic ability. You know, whether that's come in as

896
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:17.480
<v Speaker 6>a uh, you know, reserved guy or a teamer to

897
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:19.800
<v Speaker 6>try to make the roster or prefer free agent if

898
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:21.760
<v Speaker 6>he doesn't make it. But like I said, when you

899
00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:23.960
<v Speaker 6>you post numbers like that, you're gonna you don't catch

900
00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:26.039
<v Speaker 6>the attention of guys, even if it's not to come

901
00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:28.519
<v Speaker 6>in and be you know RB one or two or

902
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:30.719
<v Speaker 6>you know super highl in depth chart. But it could

903
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:33.920
<v Speaker 6>be used for your own special teams, you know, across

904
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:35.079
<v Speaker 6>the board for many teams.

905
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:36.480
<v Speaker 7>So that's a tough point.

906
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:38.440
<v Speaker 6>The running back position itself is tough, and this is

907
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:41.960
<v Speaker 6>a very very deep, you know, running back class. But

908
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:44.559
<v Speaker 6>there's there's no reason a team might not take him

909
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:46.920
<v Speaker 6>as a late pick or at least a preferred free agent.

910
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:51.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, I know it hurts said. It's hard to

911
00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:53.920
<v Speaker 2>hear how the running back position has been the valued

912
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:55.480
<v Speaker 2>as much as it has been, Like, what do you

913
00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:56.119
<v Speaker 2>think it's wherever?

914
00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:56.360
<v Speaker 1>It's far?

915
00:45:56.679 --> 00:46:00.519
<v Speaker 3>His performance at Pro Day for Nate Carter. See, that's

916
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:02.519
<v Speaker 3>like the opposite of what we talk about. The receiver

917
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:06.639
<v Speaker 3>from um you know what I mean, didn't test well?

918
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:13.119
<v Speaker 3>Were put on the tape. This kid tests great, but

919
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:14.039
<v Speaker 3>the film.

920
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:17.119
<v Speaker 7>Was ah yeah, yeah.

921
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:18.840
<v Speaker 3>Because if you really think about it, the other running

922
00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:21.480
<v Speaker 3>back kind of out played them. You understand what I'm saying,

923
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:23.840
<v Speaker 3>But now you also got to understand these comebine. You

924
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:26.880
<v Speaker 3>get guys that can test well, you know, that can

925
00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:29.519
<v Speaker 3>test well, but can't play how they.

926
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Test If that draft is so high, talk about that, Like,

927
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:37.679
<v Speaker 2>what's the reason that the test they always will override

928
00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:40.360
<v Speaker 2>film for testing?

929
00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Seems to be.

930
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.920
<v Speaker 3>Because you gotta think everybody want to talk about Everybody

931
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:49.239
<v Speaker 3>talks about the forty. Now you get guys. They got

932
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:52.280
<v Speaker 3>a guy that was I don't know, was playing in

933
00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:55.239
<v Speaker 3>Black college football or something, come out runner four to

934
00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:58.159
<v Speaker 3>nine or something, either this draft or last draft or

935
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:03.280
<v Speaker 3>something like that. Ooh too. But guess what, he couldn't

936
00:47:03.320 --> 00:47:05.320
<v Speaker 3>even start on his high school football team. But he

937
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:09.760
<v Speaker 3>was a track guy, duh, but put him on the

938
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:12.960
<v Speaker 3>football field, you know what I'm saying. So it just

939
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:16.280
<v Speaker 3>it's just like that some of these guys that look

940
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:19.039
<v Speaker 3>at the forty because it's just whatever that became in

941
00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:22.079
<v Speaker 3>the NFL. But that don't mean you can put you

942
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:24.760
<v Speaker 3>a great football player, you know what I'm saying. You

943
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:27.400
<v Speaker 3>look at a guy like Michael Irvan probably ran four six.

944
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame.

945
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:31.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we can name names all the time, you

946
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:34.480
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, but it just, you know, I

947
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:37.199
<v Speaker 3>just I'm just not a big forty guy. I'm not

948
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:40.159
<v Speaker 3>a I'm put on the feelm Let's play football, you

949
00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:42.000
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean? That just think that's the key.

950
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:46.239
<v Speaker 3>But you know it just broad like do you really

951
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:48.800
<v Speaker 3>do a broad jump in a fucking football game? Oh

952
00:47:48.840 --> 00:47:51.920
<v Speaker 3>that's that's his burst? Play football?

953
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:54.159
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, article jump?

954
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:56.760
<v Speaker 3>Why the fuck, old lineman do burder? I mean, come on,

955
00:47:56.840 --> 00:47:59.320
<v Speaker 3>don why are we doing Burke? Come on?

956
00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:02.480
<v Speaker 7>No, it's it's it's crazy. I mean we've even talked

957
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:03.800
<v Speaker 7>about things like why don't we have just.

958
00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:06.480
<v Speaker 6>Our you know, O line or D line running ten

959
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:08.960
<v Speaker 6>or run a twenty get a good tense time on

960
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:10.239
<v Speaker 6>them and there why you have to run a forty.

961
00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:11.159
<v Speaker 7>You're never gonna run a forty.

962
00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:13.800
<v Speaker 6>Right, So we're we're in the same boat where like

963
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:17.039
<v Speaker 6>we feel like they have our guys doing necessary unnecessary things.

964
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:19.760
<v Speaker 7>That's what we said, Like we we.

965
00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:21.760
<v Speaker 6>Know it's important, right, We're gonna put as much behind

966
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:23.440
<v Speaker 6>him in training and get him ready.

967
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:25.199
<v Speaker 7>But at the end of the day, man put on

968
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:25.719
<v Speaker 7>the tape.

969
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:30.119
<v Speaker 3>You know, for example, the kid from the Giants, right

970
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:32.719
<v Speaker 3>he I mean, not the Giants, the kid from Penn State.

971
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:37.079
<v Speaker 3>No combine, I don't think, no pro date, right because

972
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:38.760
<v Speaker 3>it's just food or something like that.

973
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:40.440
<v Speaker 7>Yep, put on this tate.

974
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:43.440
<v Speaker 3>He's gonna be a top five big for sure. No combine,

975
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:48.199
<v Speaker 3>no pro day, talk about big why the biggest film?

976
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:49.679
<v Speaker 7>Dumb?

977
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:54.320
<v Speaker 3>So rest bro Rich, bro whatever his name is, like

978
00:48:54.400 --> 00:49:01.559
<v Speaker 3>gate that moiev No put on the tape. Me mind said,

979
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:02.880
<v Speaker 3>what are you gonna do to me? I'll be in

980
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:07.519
<v Speaker 3>Miami two weeks.

981
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:13.400
<v Speaker 2>So listen, Travis, You guys over at athlete sorts do

982
00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:16.400
<v Speaker 2>represent a lot of coaches, a lot of general managers

983
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:19.400
<v Speaker 2>in the NFL level. Right, and then so when you

984
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:23.360
<v Speaker 2>look at these decisions that are made based on numbers,

985
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:24.920
<v Speaker 2>versus the film.

986
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:27.599
<v Speaker 1>Is there in your opinion?

987
00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Is there fear amongst the coaching, the people who evaluate

988
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:35.400
<v Speaker 2>saying that, listen, if I if I, if I ride

989
00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:37.440
<v Speaker 2>for a guy, if I stand on the table is

990
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:39.719
<v Speaker 2>what they call it, stand on the table for a

991
00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:43.599
<v Speaker 2>guy who doesn't have measurables in the combine and all

992
00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:46.239
<v Speaker 2>that shit that swerves talking about, then I might lose

993
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:48.440
<v Speaker 2>my job. I got to put a for sale sign

994
00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:50.760
<v Speaker 2>in my yard. But if I go with the guy

995
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:52.920
<v Speaker 2>who has all the measurables and his tape might be

996
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:55.239
<v Speaker 2>a little shaky, then I can at least say, hey, look,

997
00:49:55.840 --> 00:49:58.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, based on fifty years of metrics, you know

998
00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:02.800
<v Speaker 2>this is the educated decision that I chose, and they

999
00:50:03.039 --> 00:50:03.840
<v Speaker 2>keep their job.

1000
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Is that? Do you see that?

1001
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:06.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1002
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:08.119
<v Speaker 6>I mean at the end the day, if you make

1003
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:09.800
<v Speaker 6>too many wrote those wrong picks and are winning, you're

1004
00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:10.960
<v Speaker 6>gonna lose your job either way.

1005
00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:12.119
<v Speaker 7>But when you.

1006
00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:13.880
<v Speaker 6>Know, I talk to friends who are scouts, is like, look,

1007
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:15.800
<v Speaker 6>you better have done a lot of homework and done

1008
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:18.239
<v Speaker 6>your research, and you know, like you said, be able

1009
00:50:18.280 --> 00:50:19.920
<v Speaker 6>to stand on the table for a guy and justify

1010
00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:23.119
<v Speaker 6>or pick whichever way it is. And you know, I

1011
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:24.880
<v Speaker 6>think the more information, and that's what at the end

1012
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:28.039
<v Speaker 6>of the day, this is testing the numbers, the measurables.

1013
00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:29.960
<v Speaker 6>It's just more information for them. So yeah, it gives

1014
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:31.960
<v Speaker 6>them a little bit more ammo to stand on the

1015
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:36.000
<v Speaker 6>table and and uh, you know, make a decision for

1016
00:50:36.039 --> 00:50:37.599
<v Speaker 6>a guy versus all right, well we kind of got

1017
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:40.519
<v Speaker 6>this unknown. But again, if the film is the film

1018
00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:42.880
<v Speaker 6>is just off the charts, you go in there, you

1019
00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:45.159
<v Speaker 6>do the character background checks. You know, he's a good guy.

1020
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:48.719
<v Speaker 6>You're talking to the you know, people in the building

1021
00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:51.039
<v Speaker 6>at at his college, like you feel good about making

1022
00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:52.920
<v Speaker 6>those picks. And the new thing too, about with all

1023
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:54.559
<v Speaker 6>this technology. I mean, we talked to a number of

1024
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:56.159
<v Speaker 6>teams and the pros that are like, look, we put

1025
00:50:56.159 --> 00:50:57.440
<v Speaker 6>the GPS on these guys.

1026
00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:00.480
<v Speaker 7>We have zero concern about his speed. You know, we

1027
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:01.760
<v Speaker 7>don't really need a forty, right, we.

1028
00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:04.360
<v Speaker 6>Haven't met twenty twenty one miles per hour on the field,

1029
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:06.480
<v Speaker 6>you know, why do we need to see him run

1030
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:08.360
<v Speaker 6>straight line forty? So there are some teams that are

1031
00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:11.760
<v Speaker 6>a little more advanced, I think, and there are the you know,

1032
00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:12.880
<v Speaker 6>some of the old school guys that I want to

1033
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:14.800
<v Speaker 6>see them line up and you know, we call it

1034
00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:16.880
<v Speaker 6>the underwear Olympics. Why is this such a big deal.

1035
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:19.679
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, but it is. And you know, I

1036
00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:22.320
<v Speaker 6>get this more information. But at the end of the day,

1037
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:24.679
<v Speaker 6>like who can play ball? And if you're able to

1038
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:26.960
<v Speaker 6>now track this this GPS and how guys fly around

1039
00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:29.639
<v Speaker 6>the field, you know that can do the same thing.

1040
00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:33.039
<v Speaker 6>And like like said, say, we see guys that don't

1041
00:51:33.079 --> 00:51:36.199
<v Speaker 6>run the best times. But hell of NFL player, right,

1042
00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:38.639
<v Speaker 6>they know how to play ball. They're instinctual, they're they're smart,

1043
00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:41.679
<v Speaker 6>they know how to get open or whatever it is.

1044
00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:43.119
<v Speaker 6>They you know, how to read the offense of their

1045
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:46.159
<v Speaker 6>defensive guy. Like that's just one thing. And I don't

1046
00:51:46.199 --> 00:51:48.199
<v Speaker 6>think you know, a lot of these teams will risk,

1047
00:51:48.440 --> 00:51:49.960
<v Speaker 6>you know, making the draft from the gout just for

1048
00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:52.440
<v Speaker 6>the forty. But you start to see him reach, right,

1049
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:53.920
<v Speaker 6>you know, we have players that run a four to

1050
00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:56.480
<v Speaker 6>two as wide receiver, Like all right, well.

1051
00:51:56.280 --> 00:51:58.000
<v Speaker 7>We think we can do something with this. It doesn't

1052
00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:00.679
<v Speaker 7>always pan out, right.

1053
00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:04.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, you brought up background and character checks without

1054
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:06.360
<v Speaker 2>like putting anybody's name out there. What's some of the

1055
00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:09.559
<v Speaker 2>crazy stuff that you've heard that uh from a character

1056
00:52:09.639 --> 00:52:13.920
<v Speaker 2>background check from the NFL level that may have hurt

1057
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:14.920
<v Speaker 2>someone's stock.

1058
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:18.440
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean, we we've there's a little bit of everything,

1059
00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:21.559
<v Speaker 6>and it's it's tough, but like you know, background just

1060
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:24.519
<v Speaker 6>whether it's how was he in the building, was he

1061
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:26.239
<v Speaker 6>did he go to class, did he go to you know,

1062
00:52:26.360 --> 00:52:28.599
<v Speaker 6>was he doing the extra work in film? I'm trying

1063
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:32.480
<v Speaker 6>to think if I've heard a crazy one. I mean,

1064
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:35.880
<v Speaker 6>there's some guys that you know, go home and act

1065
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:38.079
<v Speaker 6>the fool, and the schools kind of cover it up

1066
00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:40.880
<v Speaker 6>when they come back. But teams find out all this stuff.

1067
00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:43.920
<v Speaker 6>Teams are talking to your high school coach. Teams are

1068
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:45.719
<v Speaker 6>you know, hearing about what you're doing when you go

1069
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:48.840
<v Speaker 6>home on on on a break or winter break or

1070
00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:51.320
<v Speaker 6>whatever it is. And so we've heard some stuff where

1071
00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:54.679
<v Speaker 6>I won't say too much for guys, guys get away

1072
00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:56.800
<v Speaker 6>from the school and it's it's not you know, it's

1073
00:52:56.840 --> 00:52:59.360
<v Speaker 6>not good. So we try to do the same thing

1074
00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:02.159
<v Speaker 6>and gather as much information as we can, you know,

1075
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:04.159
<v Speaker 6>before we recruit a guy, because at the end of

1076
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:05.840
<v Speaker 6>the day, you know, if you're dealing with a guy

1077
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:07.519
<v Speaker 6>that's got a ton of red flags, he's not gonna

1078
00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:08.880
<v Speaker 6>last very long in the league.

1079
00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:09.559
<v Speaker 7>Anyways.

1080
00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:13.079
<v Speaker 2>One of the league, the League does hire private investigators.

1081
00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Let's put that out there for people, right.

1082
00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:18.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they they they will find out everything We tell

1083
00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:20.760
<v Speaker 6>our guys that don't don't lie, don't like, they will

1084
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:23.880
<v Speaker 6>find out everything about you anything.

1085
00:53:23.960 --> 00:53:26.280
<v Speaker 3>Say that because when I was going through that process, man,

1086
00:53:26.360 --> 00:53:29.760
<v Speaker 3>they sent something to my middle school. Yeah, and I

1087
00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:32.199
<v Speaker 3>was like, man, I think I have my teacher's dead man,

1088
00:53:32.199 --> 00:53:36.679
<v Speaker 3>what do you see? But yeah, going through that process,

1089
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:38.800
<v Speaker 3>I think in middle school or elementary or something like that,

1090
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:41.159
<v Speaker 3>person told me, hey, man, I got a questionnaire on

1091
00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:44.320
<v Speaker 3>you whenever when he was going to the drafts. Say wow. Yeah,

1092
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:47.280
<v Speaker 3>even when I was coaching high school football, I ended

1093
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:49.079
<v Speaker 3>up getting a questionnaire where I had a kid they

1094
00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:52.039
<v Speaker 3>end up playing for the Falcons and uh team something

1095
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:54.920
<v Speaker 3>me a question there on. Yes, of course I lied,

1096
00:53:55.039 --> 00:53:56.559
<v Speaker 3>But you know, it works out.

1097
00:53:58.239 --> 00:54:00.519
<v Speaker 6>That we try to get as much in too, so

1098
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:02.639
<v Speaker 6>just so when we do our interview prep for our

1099
00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:04.679
<v Speaker 6>guys and get them ready to go sit in those

1100
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:06.440
<v Speaker 6>rooms with the gms and head coaches.

1101
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:08.239
<v Speaker 7>They want to know kind of.

1102
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:10.440
<v Speaker 6>What to expect, how's it going to be, so it's

1103
00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:13.480
<v Speaker 6>not their first time, but at the same time letting

1104
00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:16.199
<v Speaker 6>them know, like, look, they know what's up. You know,

1105
00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:18.639
<v Speaker 6>if we know something about you, we're going to prep

1106
00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:20.280
<v Speaker 6>you on you know, how to answer it and how

1107
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:22.440
<v Speaker 6>to address it. But don't go in the room line

1108
00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:25.000
<v Speaker 6>because if they know, you know, they're going to ask

1109
00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:26.559
<v Speaker 6>you for a reason and they already know the answer

1110
00:54:26.599 --> 00:54:28.800
<v Speaker 6>to it. But we've heard, you know, guys going there

1111
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:31.559
<v Speaker 6>and lie or deny certain things and they're like, look,

1112
00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:32.760
<v Speaker 6>we heard from his head.

1113
00:54:32.599 --> 00:54:35.360
<v Speaker 7>Coach what happens, So not a good looks. Just go

1114
00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:37.920
<v Speaker 7>in and on it. But getting these guys prepared for

1115
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:38.960
<v Speaker 7>an interview process is.

1116
00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Huge, right.

1117
00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:44.679
<v Speaker 2>Mentor once told me he said, the problems don't hurt you,

1118
00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:48.119
<v Speaker 2>surprises will. So yeah, I need to get out in

1119
00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:51.320
<v Speaker 2>front of those things in order to have a successful

1120
00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:55.960
<v Speaker 2>process in the draft. And there's one question here Montory scene.

1121
00:54:56.079 --> 00:55:00.559
<v Speaker 2>Is there a spot for the dedicated athletic, good character, hunger,

1122
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:02.599
<v Speaker 2>humble type of player?

1123
00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:04.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1124
00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:05.079
<v Speaker 1>I think.

1125
00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:07.119
<v Speaker 6>I think when we get to deal with players like that,

1126
00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:10.840
<v Speaker 6>those are the best kind, you know, like ready to

1127
00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:13.039
<v Speaker 6>come in work and teams love that too the year

1128
00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:13.480
<v Speaker 6>all the time?

1129
00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:15.840
<v Speaker 7>Is here is he a guy who loves ball?

1130
00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:16.239
<v Speaker 3>Right?

1131
00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:18.719
<v Speaker 6>Is he gonna come in and study and work and

1132
00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:20.920
<v Speaker 6>bust his ass? And we don't have to worry about

1133
00:55:20.920 --> 00:55:25.360
<v Speaker 6>anything off the field. And you know, those guys are

1134
00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:28.159
<v Speaker 6>always I think gonna gonna rise, especially especially they got

1135
00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:31.199
<v Speaker 6>the talent, right, Like, if everyth all else equal, the

1136
00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:33.079
<v Speaker 6>guys are going to take the one who they know

1137
00:55:33.159 --> 00:55:35.079
<v Speaker 6>is not going to be in the issues versus Okay,

1138
00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:36.920
<v Speaker 6>we might have some issues in red flags and he

1139
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:39.079
<v Speaker 6>might be off our roster in a couple of years.

1140
00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's serious stuff, man.

1141
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:44.079
<v Speaker 1>You know, we pivoting a little bit.

1142
00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:46.239
<v Speaker 2>I know we haven't had time time to really cover this,

1143
00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:48.840
<v Speaker 2>but the household in the case. They did have the

1144
00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:52.920
<v Speaker 2>hearing yesterday and a lot of things were covered up

1145
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:55.760
<v Speaker 2>on the top of mind. Some of the big topics

1146
00:55:56.119 --> 00:55:58.559
<v Speaker 2>were roster limits. You know, you've been hearing a lot

1147
00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:02.079
<v Speaker 2>about capping the roster limbs. But Judge Wilkins said that

1148
00:56:02.199 --> 00:56:05.519
<v Speaker 2>you know that she wasn't really too hot on that.

1149
00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:08.199
<v Speaker 2>She didn't like the fact that the roster limits were there,

1150
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:12.239
<v Speaker 2>especially abruptly, that they may need the grandfather of those things.

1151
00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:17.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, what is your take on what you saw yesterday?

1152
00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:19.639
<v Speaker 2>And I know you have a full firm and everybody

1153
00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:20.840
<v Speaker 2>I legal department and all that.

1154
00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:23.119
<v Speaker 7>So tell us what you think yeah.

1155
00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:25.719
<v Speaker 6>I mean, obviously, I know there's a couple uh, you know,

1156
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:27.840
<v Speaker 6>minor changes and things that they're they're going to be

1157
00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:29.800
<v Speaker 6>working through and filing, and then you know, we we

1158
00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:32.519
<v Speaker 6>still do expect this to be passed within you know,

1159
00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:35.360
<v Speaker 6>the next month or so. That'll that will kind of

1160
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:38.000
<v Speaker 6>change the landscape of how these players get paid in

1161
00:56:38.039 --> 00:56:41.320
<v Speaker 6>that model, you know, and even talking on the roster

1162
00:56:41.400 --> 00:56:44.039
<v Speaker 6>limits and some of the details like you know, as

1163
00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:46.280
<v Speaker 6>a walk on and you know, seeing what kind of

1164
00:56:46.760 --> 00:56:49.920
<v Speaker 6>uh impact walk ons and you know, people can have

1165
00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:52.519
<v Speaker 6>on a team. It's it is crazy to just eliminate

1166
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:54.760
<v Speaker 6>that and take that away, right. You know, a lot

1167
00:56:54.760 --> 00:56:57.000
<v Speaker 6>of these guys are our you know, scout team or

1168
00:56:57.400 --> 00:56:59.480
<v Speaker 6>or have been in the system and can you know,

1169
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:02.519
<v Speaker 6>kind of helped the starters or or these young guys

1170
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:06.519
<v Speaker 6>come up. So to cut that, you know, abruptly, like

1171
00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:08.960
<v Speaker 6>you said, it is kind of surprising. So I could

1172
00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:12.280
<v Speaker 6>see that not not going through. And then in terms

1173
00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:14.239
<v Speaker 6>of the collectors, I know, some people, you know, questions

1174
00:57:14.280 --> 00:57:17.480
<v Speaker 6>like are the collectors going to disappear again? We've we've

1175
00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:21.559
<v Speaker 6>never thought that or saw that. You know, obviously, the

1176
00:57:21.679 --> 00:57:23.639
<v Speaker 6>revenue share and this cap model is going to be

1177
00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:25.840
<v Speaker 6>you know, uh or firm of how these guys are

1178
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:27.960
<v Speaker 6>getting paid and how their collective deals are.

1179
00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:28.760
<v Speaker 7>Are laid out.

1180
00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:32.079
<v Speaker 6>But we don't, you know, see the collectors just going

1181
00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:34.280
<v Speaker 6>away at these schools.

1182
00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:38.440
<v Speaker 2>So you're looking at the revenue share model, So there's

1183
00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:40.719
<v Speaker 2>going to be money that's coming directly from the school

1184
00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:42.639
<v Speaker 2>to the football team or the basketball team and the

1185
00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:45.719
<v Speaker 2>resting sport. Then there's still going to be that third

1186
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:50.119
<v Speaker 2>party that's out there that's able to give endorsement deals

1187
00:57:50.280 --> 00:57:52.639
<v Speaker 2>that that's what we heard yesterday. That was a big

1188
00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:54.960
<v Speaker 2>point of contention for a lot of people.

1189
00:57:55.559 --> 00:57:55.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

1190
00:57:56.079 --> 00:57:57.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and you know, that's kind of what we had heard.

1191
00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:00.519
<v Speaker 6>And now it'll be interesting of what that looks. I

1192
00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:02.480
<v Speaker 6>know they have they have said, okay, it's a third

1193
00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:06.199
<v Speaker 6>party or Deloitte gonna now look through all these deals

1194
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:07.400
<v Speaker 6>over a certain amount.

1195
00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:09.800
<v Speaker 7>And determine fair market value or is that you know?

1196
00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:10.760
<v Speaker 7>Can they not do that?

1197
00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:11.119
<v Speaker 3>Right?

1198
00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:14.280
<v Speaker 6>Is there no way to determine that this is this

1199
00:58:14.440 --> 00:58:16.320
<v Speaker 6>is wild west or it has been? So how is

1200
00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:17.599
<v Speaker 6>someone going to come in and say, oh, that's not

1201
00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:18.159
<v Speaker 6>a fair deal?

1202
00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:18.400
<v Speaker 3>Right?

1203
00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:20.639
<v Speaker 7>They don't really know the ins and out. So yeah,

1204
00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:21.760
<v Speaker 7>I don't see the collectors going away.

1205
00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:23.559
<v Speaker 6>I do think it'll be interesting to see how that's

1206
00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:28.159
<v Speaker 6>kind of governed or if it's continued to operate as is, right, Like,

1207
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:30.960
<v Speaker 6>if you have the donors with with the most money

1208
00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:33.320
<v Speaker 6>and willing to spend on certain sports, they're gonna be

1209
00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:33.880
<v Speaker 6>able to do so.

1210
00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought that was an interesting take about Judge Wilton.

1211
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:40.280
<v Speaker 2>She said, you know, she didn't see that has been

1212
00:58:40.639 --> 00:58:44.079
<v Speaker 2>something that would be that would pass the anti trust laws,

1213
00:58:44.199 --> 00:58:49.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, but numbers, You're gonna have a large uh CPA,

1214
00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:53.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, accounting firm basically putting numbers on the heads

1215
00:58:53.639 --> 00:58:59.239
<v Speaker 2>of athletes, right, Like who who gave them the ability

1216
00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:01.480
<v Speaker 2>to tell somebody what their value is at the end

1217
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:01.920
<v Speaker 2>of the day.

1218
00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:03.119
<v Speaker 1>Last time I checked.

1219
00:59:03.119 --> 00:59:06.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, you are what you negotiate, right, I mean,

1220
00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:08.039
<v Speaker 2>that's what your value is for sure.

1221
00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:12.519
<v Speaker 1>I agree, Yeah, yeah.

1222
00:59:11.119 --> 00:59:12.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, I know you do.

1223
00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:13.199
<v Speaker 1>Listen.

1224
00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:15.719
<v Speaker 2>The other thing, and you know before we get out

1225
00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:20.000
<v Speaker 2>of here, is that she mentioned collective bargaining. This is

1226
00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:23.239
<v Speaker 2>something I know in the NFL model you're very familiar with.

1227
00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:27.159
<v Speaker 2>It's nothing that we've broached really in the college world,

1228
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:30.119
<v Speaker 2>let yet. But she talked about that that would be

1229
00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:34.320
<v Speaker 2>a remedy because you need player representation in order to

1230
00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:37.960
<v Speaker 2>get continuity, and I think that's what all fans want

1231
00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:39.119
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day.

1232
00:59:39.199 --> 00:59:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Travis antswerve, look they want they don't like to jumping around.

1233
00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:46.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't think the payment part is the big deal

1234
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:48.840
<v Speaker 2>with people as much as the man. You're here in

1235
00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:52.599
<v Speaker 2>one minute, you're gone the next You're chasing bags all around. So, like,

1236
00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:55.800
<v Speaker 2>can we get players to be someplace for two years,

1237
00:59:55.800 --> 00:59:58.239
<v Speaker 2>three years, four years, and if they do leave, there's

1238
00:59:58.239 --> 01:00:01.000
<v Speaker 2>there some kind of a consequence behind that, like a buyout,

1239
01:00:01.599 --> 01:00:03.519
<v Speaker 2>similar to what coaches deal with right now. And what

1240
01:00:03.559 --> 01:00:06.639
<v Speaker 2>happens in the NFL level or pro sport level, in

1241
01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:10.159
<v Speaker 2>any sport. Is that something that needs to happen. And

1242
01:00:10.159 --> 01:00:14.000
<v Speaker 2>this is what Judge Wilkins brought up yesterday. She said,

1243
01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:16.840
<v Speaker 2>I think that collective bargaining is a way to remedy

1244
01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:20.400
<v Speaker 2>on some of these things, but this case doesn't cover that,

1245
01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:22.440
<v Speaker 2>so she can't rule on that, right.

1246
01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:23.440
<v Speaker 1>So this is this is just.

1247
01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:25.320
<v Speaker 2>Another step in the right direction in my opinion. So

1248
01:00:25.320 --> 01:00:26.280
<v Speaker 2>what is your thoughts on that?

1249
01:00:26.920 --> 01:00:28.280
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, No, I think.

1250
01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:33.480
<v Speaker 6>As just continues to go and you know, things get

1251
01:00:33.480 --> 01:00:35.920
<v Speaker 6>regulated and then you know people feel like, okay, we

1252
01:00:35.960 --> 01:00:38.559
<v Speaker 6>need to have some sort of system in place, you know,

1253
01:00:39.039 --> 01:00:40.760
<v Speaker 6>wouldn't be surprised to see something like that and just

1254
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:44.199
<v Speaker 6>kind of follow the NFL model, a professional sports model.

1255
01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:46.519
<v Speaker 2>And like, you know, like we.

1256
01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:50.039
<v Speaker 6>Talked about, is that that takes time and a lot

1257
01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:51.800
<v Speaker 6>goes into that, right when even when you know the

1258
01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:55.519
<v Speaker 6>NFL PA and you know players Union are negotiating on

1259
01:00:55.599 --> 01:00:58.400
<v Speaker 6>the CBA and every ten years when they're getting ready

1260
01:00:58.440 --> 01:01:01.000
<v Speaker 6>to make changes, that and takes a lot of time,

1261
01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:03.559
<v Speaker 6>and they already have the foundation in blueprints, so to

1262
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<v Speaker 6>start something from scratch, you know, it could be a

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<v Speaker 6>while before.

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<v Speaker 7>Something like that is implemented.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, until then, until the we're gonna they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna it's gonna be the wild, wild west side here, fellas.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't know mister one dollar mode swerve

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<v Speaker 2>you know before we.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you don't do this with the figure you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>this one easy go up there this Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I got may have to go back again

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<v Speaker 3>next year. Just give me one dollar more. It's all

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<v Speaker 3>we act. Just give us one dollar more. That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>You better have some good representation, man, I know a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of people that you can talk. Hey, trap man,

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<v Speaker 2>we really appreciate your time. Man, It's been wealth of

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge for you. Best of luck in the track coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>You got always ready to come to come out. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, thank you for coming man, and don't be

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<v Speaker 2>a stranger. We'll see you soon now.

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<v Speaker 7>I appreciate you guys.

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<v Speaker 9>Definitely be back absolutely you trap all right, all right,

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<v Speaker 9>all right, Travis Allen, everybody athletes first agency agent is

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<v Speaker 9>short there NFL baby, you know n I L college.

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<v Speaker 2>High school level coming to your seven on seven teams?

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<v Speaker 2>Were you heard it here?

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<v Speaker 1>First?

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<v Speaker 3>Man? You got a thing, man, I give it. Got

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of respect for that young man.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, to get a scholarship to No the Dame

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<v Speaker 3>Academic you know, I know by Nord the Dame pars

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<v Speaker 3>Academic because my son was committed there. Yeah, at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>nor the Dame was like the number nine academic school

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<v Speaker 3>in the country and Stanford was number two. So that

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<v Speaker 3>for that, for that, for Allen to get that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>scholarship for that and walk on, man, that's that's like

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<v Speaker 3>you said, that was a great accomplishment in that. So

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<v Speaker 3>you know you're dealing with a guy that got it

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<v Speaker 3>all upstairs, you know, Oh yeah, for sure, I'm meant

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<v Speaker 3>to tell him though we have played against him, and

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<v Speaker 3>I saw him in the uniform.

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<v Speaker 1>We to bust the ass though. There you go again

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<v Speaker 1>with that ship.

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<v Speaker 3>The conversation was so smart and it was going that

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't get to that part. But I won't let

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<v Speaker 3>him know. Try you to play it in in that

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<v Speaker 3>smarting state. We to bust your ass.

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<v Speaker 2>A man, we had a nice run against the today

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<v Speaker 2>back in the day.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, never lost the ruthe never lost the rute.

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<v Speaker 2>Never never. That was a good run, hey man. Final

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts before we get up out of this work.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always in it like this because now I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>coorse like you go white baby.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, man, listen, that'll be it sat the Germ,

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<v Speaker 2>Jason straight Horn, This is Spiral Mass You everybody have

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<v Speaker 2>a good night. God bless you all.

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<v Speaker 1>Go greet Go White,