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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks. Here's

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your source of information and analysis to help you win

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your fantasy hockey league.

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Speaker 2: Block off hot a step hit on, staylock.

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Speaker 1: Here's your hosts, Jesse Severe and Victor Nuno Fantasy Hockey Live.

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Speaker 3: Jesse Severe over here from Fantracks over there, the Fantasy

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Hockey Doctor, the man who writes for everywhere fantasy hockey

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is spoken, Victor Nunia.

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Speaker 4: How you doing, Victor?

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Speaker 2: I'm great, Jesse. That's right. Everywhere, everywhere you could possibly imagine,

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is all right? How are you doing? My friend?

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Speaker 3: On the walls of bathrooms. You can find it sometimes

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up on billboards everywhere. No, No, Victor is a very

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good writer of fantasy hockey and fantasy aspects, which is

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what we're going to leverage today. Because Victor has been

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writing a lot of good stuff about prospects. I want

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to quiz him on some of that. But before we

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get there, the Fantasy Hockey Life Discord is always a

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place where you can have conversations about fantasy hockey. You

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can find things that Victor writes there. He just writes

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comments and chats. That's good stuff too, And occasionally I

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do but more importantly the listeners do because they're very

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smart people, and you can get that by email in

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this Fantasy Hockey Live at gmail dot com, victor anything

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else before we get rolling on this one.

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Speaker 2: Oh, let's get into it. I'm excited to talk about

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these players.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's take a brief break, come back and

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talk to some players.

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Speaker 4: Victory.

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Speaker 3: You've been writing for mckeans lately, one of the big

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old hockey places about some dynasty stock watch. It's a

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comparables of buys and sells, which is something we love

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talking about on the show. So this gives us some

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grist for the mill to talk about a few fantasy

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prospects that people ought to be paying attention to lately.

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How's this assignment been going for you so far?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been great. Rob McCain's approached me with an

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idea to write something, asking what I wanted to write,

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and I was thinking, you know, I think it would

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be good to just do a team by team analysis

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of where the prospects are at, but not just like

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every prospect, but in terms of what the trend might be,

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because I find that to be more helpful rather than

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just like a grade. It's who's trending in the right

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direction or the wrong direction. Who might you want to

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move off of or buy. So it's really a buy sell,

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watch and team by team, and it's going to happen

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all throughout the year, So what you might be thinking

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preseason early on in the season might be different in

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the middle towards the end. And that's all kind of

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baked into it, and they'll shift a little bit throughout

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the season. And it's usually three or four of each

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category getting autonomy to to do it how I want,

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which I really appreciate. And it's really great stuff. I

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really have been enjoying it. Hopefully people have been too.

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I know the first few were open access. I think

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eventually it's going to go behind a paywall, but I

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encourage you to subscribe to mcckein's. It's a great service.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very cool. Yeah, as you said, it focuses on

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specific teams a specific times. Today, we're going to talk

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about a couple of teams that may be looking for

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some prospects to contribute an't though they're not off to

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awful starts this season. The Pittsburgh Penguins in the Buffalo Sabers,

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so the players are going to discuss will largely cluster

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around those franchises and we'll start over in Pittsburgh. So

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the first guy on this list Victor Rutger McGroarty. He's

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been a bit of an enigma for the Old Pens.

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He was traded from Winnipeg a year ago. He was

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frustrated over the likelihood of playing time, and probably was

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right to be so, because the President's Trophy Winnie Jets

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had a pretty deep NHL squad. I don't know how

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much time he would have got there. The former US

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World Junior's U twenty goal medal winning captain, however, only

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got eight games in Pittsburgh spent the rest of his

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year in wilkes Bury in the EHL instead of Manitoba.

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Your taste may vvery on wilkes Bury versus Manitoba. He

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had thirty nine points in sixty games. He starts this

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season injured with an upper body injury, though he's back

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at practice a recording time. I think he is supposed

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to play for the big club. And Mason Black put

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out a poll for US of Rutger McGroarty versus Easton

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Cowen of the Toronto Maple Leafs and wouldn't you know it.

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Maybe it's the name recognition, maybe it's the latent talent

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that we're waiting to break out. But Rutger McGroarty still

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won that one fifty six to forty four percent. So Victor,

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do you agree on this result? And why do you

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want in on this one now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it's a good one, and yeah, thanks

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to Mason in addition to the articles and the players

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we'll talk about on the podcast. Coming from the article,

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I think it adds more context for Mason to put

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out the poll and so that's really useful to to

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compare one to another, and he always does a good

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job at these. I think I would take McGroarty here.

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awesome last year for the Memorial Cup winning London Knights.

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was pretty great except I guess maybe his bash isn't

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as high as some people would like. But in terms

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of his play, driving, his puck, battles, his course, he

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his own entries and exits, all that was so good

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in the OHL and it'll be interesting to see what

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happens with him as he transitioned professionally. He has played

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a few games for the Maple Leafs. It seems like

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they want to ease him in there, but he also

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is old enough that he could be going to the AHL,

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so we'll see about that. But I think that Easton

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is one of these guys who in the juniors is

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a scorer and a high producer. But I think as

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he moves up the ranks, he's probably going to be

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just more of a guy, more of a middle to

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bottom six guy who is very versatile and can play

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a lot of different roles, but might end up just

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paying playing a sort of complimentary top nine role. McGroarty,

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I do have him ranked higher. I have him at

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a seven point three four and kind of want to

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have at a six point three to two, and so

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both similarly likelihood to hit that. With McGroarty, though, I

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just think there's a little bit more of that intangible

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factor you mentioned. He was the captain of that World

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junior team, and I think that there's a lot to

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be I don't know that every captain really has all

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those things, but I think he's definitely a good example

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of he's the passionate leader that people follow and will

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he eventually be the next captain of the Penguins. I

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don't know, but he has those sort of intangible qualities,

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and he's been captain at multiple levels places that he's

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been and he did have a good AHL season after

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he went down three nine points in sixty games, although

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I will point out that some of his underlying metrics

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were not very good in terms of his play driving,

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which kind of feeds into my narrative here, which I

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think McGroarty is one of these guys who's going to

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produce despite maybe not having all the tools. He's just

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a hard and soul kind of guy who just defies

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the odds. He does give pretty good Perferle coverage, even

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though he's maybe not the highest end skilled kind of guy.

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I think he has a high floor, and I think

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he can play with those really smart, creative, talented players,

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and so I think he dictates the top six spot

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when the time comes and you shouldn't have to wait

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too long, and the Perferle floor is there. So I

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think all those things mixed together, I think I would

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prefer McGroarty here, even though maybe the high end upside

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is higher for Cowan. I'm just I'm not sure that

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he's going to be able to reach it. And I'm

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not really taking too much into account the team here,

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but I also think if you factor that, and I

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think it even more leans McGroarty because there's more space

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with the Penguins. It's more crowded in the top six

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in Toronto. So for all those reasons, I would definitely

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lean McCarty. Jesse, what do you think?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it, it's just are we going to

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see it come to pass? McGroarty had such a positive reputation,

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it seemed like it was fair for him to ask out.

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Hockey players are a little more reluctant, I think than

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players in other sports. But this guy deserved some run.

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I don't feel like he's got it as much, and

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we're gonna be talking about other guys in Pittsburgh who

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have got some run, but maybe now that he's healthy,

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they'll be there. But the upside of him in the

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long term, the ceiling that we foresaw for him earlier

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is higher than Callen and he certainly was very good

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at Michigan, so we shall see if he's able to

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deliver on that. Next guy up a mill p and

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m Victor. No, it's not that it's.

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Speaker 4: Niemi.

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Speaker 3: There's way too many. There's an illegal number of ease

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and I's in this name, all right, it's Pnny. That's

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just that's not right. He split last season between the

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Finnish U twenty team, where he then went to the

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OHL's Kingston front Necks and had a point per game.

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He's now listed that ehcl or ECHL Wheeling, West Virginia.

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sixty miles from the big club rather than four hundred

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and eighty miles up in Kingston. So maybe you keep

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him a little bit closer to have him close at hand.

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But anyway, his equivalency he's jumped last year from his

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years toiling in Finland, including the time he spent in Liga.

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We've got him up against stanislavs Vazil of the Columbus

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Blue Jackets and the Mason Black NHL ranking poll Voseel

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after Penny Niam, I don't even want to hear about

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that name. Is the winner in this one? Fifty five

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to forty five percent is the matter of Pittsburgh opportunity

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to come. The reason people like Piani Nemi because I

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think this is another guy you're on the side of

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you like them, right, what's your read on the guy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was really fun hearing your struggle through

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the name Tuga job. I think you got that in

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the end illegal number of that. That's great. So I

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do think it's interesting how people likes FOSL here. I

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think pan and Yemy is just really underrated. I think

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people haven't quite come around to him yet. Surprisingly especially,

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I often find that with these grat or with the

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ranking polls. I feel like a lot of times people

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look at the graphs of the PNHUL and with this one,

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it seems pretty obvious that p and Emy is on

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a much more upward trajectory. But I guess they're discounting

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that completely because that's not how they voted, or at

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least ten percent voted then favor more in favor as FOSAL.

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But yeah, in terms of FOSAL, he's someone who he's

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had a really weird trajectory from check YA to WHL

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to HL and he's been fine in the AHL, but

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the reality is that a lot of his play driving

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metrics have been pretty bad down there, even though he's

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hovering a bit under half point per game raw number wise,

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you're like, Okay, he's not doing too bad, but then

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you look at his transition game and his play driving

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and it's just not great. And to be fair, Panaemy

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might struggle as well because he hasn't He's only been

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in the Aliga and then he went to the OHL,

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and really the only league he scored in is at

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a significant rate have been the junior levels. When he

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played in Liga, he didn't score very much, but we

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know that's a low scoring, hard league, and then it's

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a bit of a step down to go to the OHL,

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which he did quite well in point per game, but

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beyond that, a lot of his play driving numbers were

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really good, and so I think that's part of what

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I like about him. Neither of these guys have really

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good bash, but Panaemy has really strong, some strong offensive instincts,

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and watching him on Team Finland, I think that was

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one of the biggest things too. At the World Juniors,

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everyone thought it was going to be Aaron k v

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Harry was coming out party for Finland and he was

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completely overshadowed by Pan and Eami, and I think that

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was a really good indication of what might be coming here.

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I didn't weigh too much into the fact that Pittsburgh

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has an awful prospect system, or at least they did

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before this draft, with a couple of these guys coming

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from the twenty twenty five draft that make this a

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lot more interesting. But I do think that he's a

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pretty significant piece there that makes what would otherwise be

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a pretty barren defensive prospect system in terms of fantasy,

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I think that it makes him. It makes it a

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lot more interesting. And now there's Bruniki and there, and

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there's Pickering, who I know we're going to talk a

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little bit about later. But I don't think either of

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those guys are super offensive. So in terms of who

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you might want for offense, I think it's Panamy and

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I think there's a reasonable chance that he could be

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a second pair, power play quarterback kind of guy, which

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is obviously someone that you would want.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Pian and Yammy there are I think I'm counting fourteen, no,

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sixteen letters, of which all but four are eyes, ease

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and end. So I rest my case. The next guy up,

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we're going to go to goal. We've got a little

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bit of goalie action to talk about with the Pittsburgh

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Penguins and Sergei Mushov is going to be the first.

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He won't be the last Pittsburgh Goldie prospect. He's one

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of the goalie prospects.

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Speaker 4: With the system.

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Speaker 3: All he does is put up great save percentages, whether

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in the MHL, KHL or AHL. In nineteen career games

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played in the A, he has a record of fifteen

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and three now with a nine to sixteen save percentage

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on really what is a mid tier squad in the AHL.

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So he's been nails for a fourth round pick. Back

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in twenty twenty two, we compared him against Igors zebgar

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Zabragen of the Philadelphia Flyers, who has had a bit

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more hype to him, and Zebgaran did come out as

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Zilvagen has come out to be a little bit more

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beloved in the eyes of Mason Black's public sixty two

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to thirty eight percent. It's interesting he's coming into the system.

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It sounds like this is a guy who you don't mind.

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And he's also in a system with Joel Blomquist. There

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are other goalies nipping around the edges. There's certainly possibility

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of somebody taking over this net in the long term.

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Is murrishav now the air apparent for the Pittsburgh net

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and what can you tell us about him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're definitely going to talk about another one Russian

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goalies here in a little bit or sorry, not at

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the Pittsburgh goalies. But I do think that he is

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the most talented of all their prospect goalies, and I

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do think he is probably the heir apparent. It's interesting

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seeing the votes here, I think, and I like how

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you finally I think you channeled your inner Russian there

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at the end. It's a Ragena or else, it just

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doesn't sound right. Yeah, I want to pick the Vragen,

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but also I feel like I'm deeply wounded by how

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terrible the Philadelphia Flyers have drafted and developed their goalies recently,

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which makes me just not want to believe anything that

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they're doing. But I do think that they hit on

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an absolute ja here. I think the reality is you

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want both of these guys. There'll be some of these

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comparables where I think you might not want either, but

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in this case, I think you want both. And I

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think that I would put Zevragen a little bit ahead

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of Mushov, even though they're both great. Mihershov is a

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little bit on the I guess they're both decent side,

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so size isn't a huge issue. But we have seen

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Zevragen do really well in the KHL. For the last

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he played a full season last season. Before that he

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played a few KHL games and then was mostly in juniors.

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And this season he's off to a great start. So

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I think we're seeing him do it at a really

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high level, which is nice. Mrshov we've also seen some

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limited KHL time, but then he's been in North America

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which has been really exciting, and he was awesome to

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start last season. So far in Wolksbury scan Scrin, he's

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been good this season. I think they're going to bring

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him up and give him a little bit of a

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taste at some point. But right now she loves its

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done okay, and Jarry actually has done. Didn't he get

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a shut out the other day? That's wild, but that's

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what Paul Tristan Jarry does sometimes, and then he tends

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to fall apart towards the end of the season. I

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think we'll see me or Shov at some point, and

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I think it's not gonna be this season. It might

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not be next season, but he is the heir apparent,

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and I think you want either of these guys, but

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I would slightly lean towards Levin Agen. He's been better younger,

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and I think he has a lot of potential. The

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big worry here is that Philly does what Philly sometimes

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does and brings them over too early and ruins or

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stunts his development. So let him marinate, don't do anything

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crazy with him. He's twenty, and he's also a young twenty.

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He's an August twenty third birthday, so he literally just

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turned twenty. He's already been playing a fair number of

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KHL games as a teenager, which is super exciting. He's

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got fifty one KHL games and only recently turned twenty,

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so that's a pretty good number. Let him cook, be

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patient with him, and I think he could be a

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star and your fantasy team in a few years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Victor, we're talking about to little trading in one

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of our leagues right now, and I might have mister

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Mershov over here ready to make the jump to the

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Victor Nunial squad.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do a trade on the episode right here.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know if we have time today.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if we have time, but I well

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make it happen. All right, We're gonna we're going back

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and forth between the two franchises today, so we're gonna

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have our first Buffalo Saber.

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Speaker 4: Of the day. Consta hellnious.

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Speaker 3: I remember I liked him more than you did, I

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think at draft time, maybe not unrelated to the fact

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that I was visiting Finland while while this draft was

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getting ready. So I was just psyched for any finished prospect,

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and he was the best one, I think for the year.

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But the story with Buffalo, as if anybody needed to

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hear it from me, is that there are these glut

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of mid tier forwards that have gone in there over

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the years, and while they are starting to thin out

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because some of the very best ones off the top

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have been traded away Millennius, it's this is gonna be

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a good episode because we're gonna differentiate between some of

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these guys and what they're trajectories looked like his first

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year last year in the AHL didn't blow the doors off,

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but first year in North America, that's always a transition

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for guys. He had thirty five points and sixty five

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games in the A and he's down there to start

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this season as well. Started out okay so far. We

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put him up in the Mason Black NHL ranking poll

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against Daniel Boot, who went number twelve overall, whereas Helenius

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went fourteen in the second in the year after twenty

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twenty four and Helenius still nips out Boot fifty two

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to forty eight percent. So has Helenius risen as a prospect,

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has the competition for NHL ice in Buffalo with the

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crowding kind of cleared away to make more opportunity for him.

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My impression was this was maybe more of a you

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were thinking of him as maybe more of a better

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real life player than a fantasy player. But I don't

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want to put words in your mouth tell us about

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consta Helenius their victor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, I think everything you just said is true.

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I think it has thinned out in Buffalo. I think

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that Helenius has had his stock risen. I think I

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was a little more skeptical about his production early on

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in terms of what I thought he could be, and

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if he didn't blow my socks off this last season

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in the AHL, he definitely ruffled them quite a bit.

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They're uneasy, They are getting ready to fall off. So

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he'd had a really good season. Mind you, he was eighteen,

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almost the entirety of last season at eleventh birth date,

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and he had thirty five points and sixty five AHL games.

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That kind of production is nothing to sneeze at. That

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usually is a huge factor in projecting how well they

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can do moving forward. I wish we had better data

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from the AHL. I'd really like to look at some

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of the transition in play driving numbers, but it just

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wasn't available unfortunately, so on my FHL player card that

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data is just blank, which is really frustrating. He did

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have a sixty percent Fenwick, but the other numbers are

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basically missing, so I'm not sure if we can rely

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on just one number. But he did do really well.

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He had some pretty good expected goals from that and

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scoring chances, and I think if he can at least

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build upon that, even if that's not purely a reflection

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of how we can do, I think he can probably

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even do better than that. He also had six points

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in eight playoff games for the Rochester Americans, so that

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was all good. Not to mention the fact he had

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a decent number of points in Finland and Yeah. At

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the time, I was thinking, Okay, here we go. He's

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another undersized forward who's pretty good, versatile, he can do

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lots of different things. But I think what he showed

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is that he definitely can hit another gear and delivers

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some scoring. And if he can do that, he absolutely

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separates himself from the rest of the field there in Buffalo,

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and that's what it felt like he did. Actually, so

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I definitely like him more than I previously thought, and

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I actually think that this poll is much more clear

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than what the voters had fifty two to forty eight.

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I would much prefer Elnius to Daniel Boot Helenius at

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seven point twenty four and Boot at five point five

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to six, and Boot is he's fine. I think he's

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going to be a bottom six player. He's a big

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he's huge, dude. Remember that was the year that they

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just seem to go based on size. And he's been

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fine in the KHL. He's of his around a half

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point per game. I just don't know that he's ever

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going to be a big scorer in the NHL. So far,

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he has three points in four AHL games, which I'm

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not sure that really tells us a whole lot. In

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the KHL. His transition and play driving numbers were good,

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but again, is he going to be able to translate it.

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You might think as a big guy he hits a lot,

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but he actually his hits are actually really low. He

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rarely hits. He uses his body well though, to position

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and protect the puck. I think of an Alexi pro Toss.

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I don't think he has that kind of points upside though,

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so maybe pro Toss with not quite as many points.

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I think he's more of a fifty point guy. So

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I'm not sure the Boot is going to be all

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that exciting, but we'll see. I'm willing to have him

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change my mind in terms of what he does in

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the AHL, but I think for me, it's very clear

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that Helenius has changed my mind significantly, and I definitely

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would want him here.

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Speaker 3: Jesse dos Boot, All right, that's the story over there.

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One more buffalo prospect here, and this is probably one

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of the later round type guys, so must be a

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diamond in the rough type. But Jake Richard, we're not

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going to make him a Richard yet. We'll just call him.

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Jake Richard is at Yukon the University of Connecticut. A

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Husky He's a guy Buffalo got late, drafted him while

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he was still in the USHL three years ago, and

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now he's putting up admirable points in his third year

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at Yukon. He's up against Aiden Fink in this poll

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of the Nashville Predators drafting Prowess and Fink is I

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think one fairly handily against the probably less well known

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Richard seventy four to twenty six percent the voters. And

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there weren't too many voters on this matchup. I think

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we're dealing with a bit of an undercard. People are

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probably a little less familiar with these guys. The voter

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seem to have been slow to come around owned to

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the improved performance here. But I don't know, do you

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like Fink, do you like Richard? What do you like here?

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Speaker 2: I think if you're in a deep league, then you

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might want to take a flyer on either of these guys,

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quite frankly, because I think that both of them were

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Both of them were late picks. Seventh round pick for Fink,

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sixth round pick for Richard. And I think is Richard

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he is mixed nationality and Canadian American, but he was

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born in Florida. I think he's a Richard Anyways, The

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reality is that I probably would favor Fink just a

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little bit because he's younger and having produced at a

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high level in the NC Double A. He went from

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the AHL to the NC DOUBLEA, which is just a

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crazy leap in difficulty, and he went from what you

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might imagine a really strong AHL career to a point

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per game at Penn State in his freshman season, and

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then last year he had fifty three points in forty games,

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so that boosted his projection way up, and so far

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this season well over a point per game. Again, we

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know that Penn State had some infusion of some pretty

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talented players and that's certainly helping him, but he did

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all that without some of those high end guys and

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was a really big reason why they were in the

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so good in the Frozen four last year. So I

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probably would take think just because he did it a

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00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,359
little bit earlier than did Richard. But I think if

476
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,799
you are someone who could if you could grab Richard

477
00:24:25,319 --> 00:24:27,799
in a deep poll or maybe trade for him without

478
00:24:27,839 --> 00:24:30,599
too much investment, I probably I would want either of

479
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,160
these guys on my roster in terms of low risk

480
00:24:34,279 --> 00:24:37,079
play that he might be able to get hold of.

481
00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:39,000
Idn't think also looks a little bit better in the

482
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,279
hockey prospecting model if you're interested in that. And the

483
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,079
other thing I would mention is that he has a

484
00:24:45,079 --> 00:24:48,640
little bit better bash than does Richard I think, although

485
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,119
mostly that's due to shots, but he does have a

486
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,720
little bit better Perferle coverage.

487
00:24:55,519 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 3: All Right, Victor, those were the good news guys for

488
00:24:58,039 --> 00:25:00,000
some of them. We're going to take a real quick

489
00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:01,359
break and come back and.

490
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,839
Speaker 4: Talk about some of the guys.

491
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 3: You maybe are a little less enamored with.

492
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,519
Speaker 4: Christian is shock all.

493
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,599
Speaker 1: You have an apologize, wasn't really familiar with your game,

494
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,759
and you know, casual.

495
00:25:24,039 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 3: Back to talk more Penguins and Sabers prospects. Benjamin Kindall

496
00:25:29,839 --> 00:25:32,799
is the next guy up on our list. At Pittsburgh Penguin.

497
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,839
He was he was one of the stories of the

498
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,519
draft because people were shocked he went number eleven overall. Now,

499
00:25:40,519 --> 00:25:43,400
I've been watching the Penguins a little bit lately and

500
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,200
he's actually he's had some good plays. He's been called

501
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,119
out in some good ways in some of these plays,

502
00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:50,200
but he was a bit of a shock conclusion in

503
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,680
the active roster. There weren't many guys who have made

504
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,640
it from their draft class, and here is one of

505
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,559
the guys I think was probably least expected. However, he's

506
00:26:00,599 --> 00:26:02,920
six games last I counted it was six games in

507
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,960
and an entry level slide candidate. I haven't heard any

508
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,079
official reporting about that, but maybe this is one of

509
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,680
those deals of let's get him up from the dub

510
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,799
for a few games while Sidney Crosby is still wearing

511
00:26:13,799 --> 00:26:16,559
black and gold. Hopefully he's still wearing it next year,

512
00:26:16,599 --> 00:26:20,920
but anyway, he's up there now, he's skating third line

513
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,920
minutes for the Penguins. The Penguins aren't horrible yet, but

514
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,319
I know you're a bit skeptical at the time. And

515
00:26:28,839 --> 00:26:32,160
Ben Kindall is going up against the guy who was

516
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,559
picked six slats later and one year earlier in Parasak

517
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,000
of the Washington Capitals, and Kendall comes out pretty significantly

518
00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:44,039
ahead in the Mason Black NHL Ranking poll seventy three

519
00:26:44,519 --> 00:26:48,160
to twenty seven percent. Sounds like people respect the quick

520
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,960
promotion over last year's Caps first rounder. What say you, Victor?

521
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is so interesting. And I wrote all this

522
00:26:56,319 --> 00:26:59,839
before Kendall made the squad and before he has looked

523
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,640
as you said, quite good in the NHL, and to

524
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,000
me that was never really the question. Like he he

525
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,480
is a very strong two way player. I'm not surprised

526
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,759
that he can at least hang at the NHL level.

527
00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:14,000
A bit surprised that he's made some really solid plays

528
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,960
and scored his first goal the other night, and has

529
00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:20,759
looked has had some really impressive moments, But I still

530
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,079
feel like offensively, that's not necessarily going to be his jam. Like,

531
00:27:25,079 --> 00:27:27,480
I don't think the points upside for ben Kendle is

532
00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:30,000
super high. Of course I could be wrong about that,

533
00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:33,440
but I think that I still maintain this is a

534
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,319
good time to sell ben Kendel, especially because he's getting

535
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,720
NHL time it looks to be way ahead of his

536
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,920
previous the thought of trajectory, I think this is the

537
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,480
right time to cash in on that because I don't

538
00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:47,599
think he is going to be like a point per

539
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,160
game player. I don't think he I don't even know

540
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,279
that he'll be like a seventy point player. He might

541
00:27:51,319 --> 00:27:53,559
just end up being like your forty five to fifty

542
00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:56,599
five point guy who drives play well and maybe in

543
00:27:56,599 --> 00:27:58,519
the right situation, could put up some more points. But

544
00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:00,880
I think I think might up being a little bit

545
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,000
frustrated with a better real life player than fantasy asset.

546
00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:07,119
With Kendall, I do think that he's going to help

547
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,720
the organization quite a bit, and I think that they

548
00:28:08,759 --> 00:28:10,839
should be thrilled with him because he seems to be

549
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:15,440
very solid. But in this poll I would totally disagree

550
00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:19,359
with the voters here. I would absolutely take par Trek Parasak.

551
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,319
I think this is one of those things where people

552
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,200
are looking around and seeing how well Kendall's doing, and

553
00:28:24,839 --> 00:28:26,759
this I think speaks to the point of you could

554
00:28:26,759 --> 00:28:29,359
probably get a song for him right now, and this

555
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,519
is a great time to trade him. Parasac still has

556
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:37,279
some questions. Of course he's gonna be unfortunately because of

557
00:28:37,319 --> 00:28:40,680
his age, he has one more year of the WHL

558
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,839
in him. And actually he's someone that I just wrote

559
00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:45,039
about players who need to turn around because he did

560
00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:47,920
regress last year with Prince George in terms of his

561
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,000
point totals. I think frankly he's a little bored in

562
00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:54,119
the WHL and needs a new challenge. But the NHL

563
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,920
COCHL agreement won't allow him to be in the AHL. Now.

564
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,200
They could do the Shane Right thing and take him

565
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,640
and bring him along and scratch him and then put

566
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,640
him in the AHL. But I'm not sure that they

567
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:06,839
want to do that. I think they just want to

568
00:29:06,839 --> 00:29:09,119
see him playing games and get back to his high

569
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,799
production level. So I still would take Parasac here. I

570
00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:14,720
think the points upside is much higher. I have him

571
00:29:14,759 --> 00:29:17,240
had at seven point one five, so a higher upside

572
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:19,599
with less probability, and Kendle at a six point six

573
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,400
y five, so more certainty but lower ceiling. That's exactly

574
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,920
how it described these two. You look at the hockey

575
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,000
prospecting between the two, and Kendall does have a higher

576
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,039
star potential, and I still think that there's a possibility

577
00:29:31,119 --> 00:29:33,319
that he ends up a little bit higher, and the

578
00:29:33,319 --> 00:29:35,240
floor is certainly higher. So if you want someone that

579
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,359
is for sure going to play, then by all means

580
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,640
take Kendle. But if you want someone with a higher upside,

581
00:29:41,759 --> 00:29:43,640
I would go with Parasac. And I still think that

582
00:29:44,839 --> 00:29:47,119
what you could get for Kendall at this point probably

583
00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:49,839
outweighs the value that you're going to have from him

584
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,599
moving forward, so I still would try to move him.

585
00:29:51,599 --> 00:29:54,359
I fire here, Jesse, fair.

586
00:29:54,279 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 3: Enough, fair enough. We'll see how this comes together again.

587
00:29:57,559 --> 00:30:00,160
I suspect this is one of those. Even though he

588
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,839
plays really well, at least the people will have some hope.

589
00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 4: There really is.

590
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: To me, there really is a lot of hope coming

591
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,440
up this Penguin system, more than in recent years. But

592
00:30:09,759 --> 00:30:12,480
the next guy we're going to talk about also a Penguin.

593
00:30:13,079 --> 00:30:16,200
And I turned on replay the other day the Penguins

594
00:30:16,279 --> 00:30:20,240
Canucks game, and I had it on mute, so I

595
00:30:20,279 --> 00:30:22,599
had the close captioning's up there. I'm doing some stuff.

596
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,440
I'm watching it and it talks about our tour Sealops

597
00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:29,839
getting a big save, and I was like, the heck

598
00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:32,640
I thought Kevin Lankinen was playing for the Canucks today.

599
00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:35,720
I did, how does Selops get in there? And then

600
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,200
I realized the brain milt that I just had. Of course,

601
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,359
Sheilovs is a Penguin. Now he's not a Canuck and

602
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,200
coming into this year, Selovs had nineteen career regular season

603
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,240
games and ten playoff games in the NHL.

604
00:30:51,599 --> 00:30:52,119
Speaker 4: How about that?

605
00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:55,079
Speaker 3: I mean that, what a bizarre thing, because if you

606
00:30:55,119 --> 00:30:57,880
remember a couple of years ago, he kept the Canucks

607
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,640
in a very tough seven game series with the Oilers.

608
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,079
He dangnare pulled it out for them against Connor McDavid

609
00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:05,720
in the playoffs, one of those years that they made

610
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,279
it all the way to the finals. That's a lot

611
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,200
for a twenty four year old Latvian like she loves is,

612
00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:14,720
and he did. He did very well in the game

613
00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:16,799
that I watched, because the Penns ended up winning, I

614
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:19,599
think five to one. And he won a Calder Cup

615
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,519
last year for Vancouver's AHL squad, the Abbotsford Canucks. So

616
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,400
things are looking up for this guy and Mason Black.

617
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:34,079
The NHL ranking took name recognition, Our Tours versus Art

618
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,960
versus Our Tour, the ar tour Aktyamov, who we talked

619
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,680
about I think on Our Shares episode because I still

620
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,319
do have a lot of shares. He's and like we

621
00:31:42,359 --> 00:31:45,079
said on that episode, he's one of your faves. Both

622
00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:48,000
of them are a few years into their NHL careers,

623
00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:53,359
both of them pretty low round draft picks, and in

624
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,519
this case, both of them playing some AHL time this

625
00:31:57,599 --> 00:32:02,160
time and the guy with the name recognitions won handily

626
00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:05,880
seventy three to twenty seven percent. This one must hurt.

627
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,839
But I don't know, what do you think of this?

628
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,319
What do you think of these guys?

629
00:32:09,319 --> 00:32:17,039
Speaker 2: Picker reinforces my exact point. Trade archer shelobs that's exactly

630
00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:20,279
what tells me people like him more. I talked with

631
00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:23,200
Kat about him, I've talked to other goalie experts about him.

632
00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:26,880
I as well as he has done in this limited

633
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,240
sample size. I just I don't think he's an NHL goalie.

634
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:33,920
I just really don't. And we've seen it. We've seen him.

635
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,559
He can be okay, like he can have some pretty

636
00:32:36,599 --> 00:32:41,240
good numbers. He also can look disastrous. We saw that

637
00:32:41,319 --> 00:32:44,759
he had a horrible game against the Rangers. Then he

638
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:48,440
can look great. He's looked great in a couple of instances.

639
00:32:48,599 --> 00:32:51,480
In his revenge game against the Canucks, he looked great.

640
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:54,480
There's a lot of probably emotion there. He also looked

641
00:32:54,519 --> 00:32:59,920
pretty good against the Kings, who sometimes have trouble scoring.

642
00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:02,880
I'm just not sure that he's someone who can keep

643
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,680
it up for the long term and that he will

644
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,720
be someone that you're necessarily going to want to sink

645
00:33:07,759 --> 00:33:11,160
all your hopes into. On the other hand, if you're

646
00:33:11,359 --> 00:33:14,440
someone who's competing and you like that roster flexibility and

647
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,440
he's someone who's playing games, then absolutely right it while

648
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,519
it's hot. I just don't know that you want to

649
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:22,839
invest too much into him, especially as we talked about Mrshov.

650
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,400
I think that he clearly is the heir apparent. He

651
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:28,160
is going to be better long term. I'm sure he

652
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,880
will leapfrog. She loves when the time comes, and she

653
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,920
loves might be a good backup or maybe one b.

654
00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:35,680
I think she loves as the kind of guy who

655
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,480
you can give some games to here or there and

656
00:33:38,519 --> 00:33:40,319
not feel too bad about it. But I'm not sure

657
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,960
he's the kind of goal you can ride long term.

658
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,519
He was great in that Caller Cup run. He's really hyperactive,

659
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:50,599
and I think sometimes that can be really problematic when

660
00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:53,279
you're trying to play a sound structure, and I think

661
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,359
the better the shooters are, they can pick him apart,

662
00:33:55,359 --> 00:33:56,400
and we saw a little bit of that in the

663
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,400
playoffs for Vancouver previously. Okayama is one of my highest

664
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:06,000
rated goalies. I have my goalie ranks at Fantasy Hockey

665
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,760
Life and I have him number five, So I think

666
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,320
you definitely want to have him now. The problem with

667
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,320
oktiam Off is who knows when he's actually going to

668
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,800
get opportunity Because we don't know what's happening with Wall.

669
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,039
They have Primo now and they have Stolars, so it

670
00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:24,400
might be a bit until they actually give octam Off

671
00:34:24,519 --> 00:34:26,639
the opportunity. But I think he's a way better goalie,

672
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:28,320
and I think that he's someone that I'd rather have

673
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,840
my system, even if I have to wait a bit

674
00:34:30,119 --> 00:34:30,440
for him.

675
00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 3: Jesse fair enough, fair enough. Next up, Victor. We have

676
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,000
another Pittsburgh Penguin, Owen Pickering, a defenseman for the Pens

677
00:34:41,039 --> 00:34:42,960
for a couple of years there. For years, I just

678
00:34:43,079 --> 00:34:46,320
vaguely have this sense that the Penguins it was always

679
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,280
like Owen Pickering and Samuel Poulan, who were the entirety

680
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,360
of the Penguin's prospect system. They were being ranked last

681
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,079
in rankings a lot of the times, and Pickering's still there.

682
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,440
Pickering had some time up last year. He had twenty

683
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,559
five games in the NHL. It wasn't enough for him

684
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:04,400
to make the big club this year, but he's at

685
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,559
least off to three points in his first four AHL contests,

686
00:35:09,159 --> 00:35:12,320
and that's a good thing. Pickering, I don't think, embarrassed

687
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:17,320
himself coming up. So this is the lead defenseman prospect

688
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,519
I guess coming up for the Penguin system. We've got

689
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:26,599
Mason Black putting Elias Salomonson up against him, and Solomonson

690
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,639
wins that matchup fifty six to forty four percent over

691
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,239
Owen Pickering. So I guess my question Victor, is Pickering

692
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,119
gonna make it back west in Pennsylvania soon and be

693
00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:41,440
playing in Pittsburgh instead of Wilkes Barry Or is he

694
00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:44,599
set to simmer for another season in the.

695
00:35:44,519 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 2: Miners considering how well the Penguins are doing without him,

696
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,679
which I think is surprising a lot of us, he

697
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,320
may have to wait a little bit longer. I don't

698
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,960
think many of us had that on our Bengo card,

699
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,360
but the Penguins have been quite a bit more respectable

700
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,159
than might have thought. I do think that some of

701
00:36:03,199 --> 00:36:05,920
the guys that have been ahead of him, I'm not

702
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:11,679
sure that they are necessarily going to stay ahead of him.

703
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,119
I think the left side is certainly the weaker side

704
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,039
for the Penguins defense, and so he might make his

705
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:20,639
way up there. But remember when I said earlier, there

706
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:22,880
are going to be times where you don't want either guy,

707
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,159
and I think that's just one of those times. I

708
00:36:25,159 --> 00:36:28,000
think the reality is that if you had to choose

709
00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:31,239
between Solomonson and Pickering, I think you would just probably

710
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,280
go a different direction and see who else might be

711
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,840
available from a different team. Solomonson, I'm not sure is

712
00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:41,280
I don't know that he's ever really going to be

713
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,239
someone that's super impactful. I certainly not in fantasy. He

714
00:36:46,039 --> 00:36:49,320
might be a second to third pairing guy who's a

715
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,480
puck mover. I don't know he's going to get a

716
00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:54,519
lot of points, but he's he did pretty well in

717
00:36:54,519 --> 00:36:57,960
the HL last year, and Pickering has been fine as well.

718
00:36:58,199 --> 00:36:59,760
But I don't think. I don't think either of these

719
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,440
guys are known for scoring points. Neither of them are

720
00:37:03,519 --> 00:37:07,559
really big bashers. And I think the point you made

721
00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:10,079
also is really good. There was a long time where

722
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:14,440
people talked about Pickering, they talked about Poulon, they talked

723
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,239
about kiln Addison back in the day, and it was like,

724
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,000
I want the guy who's the best of a weak pool.

725
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,480
And the reality is that I've never agreed with that,

726
00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:26,480
because that does not mean that's gonna be the guy

727
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,039
who makes it, and that's going to be the guy

728
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:31,119
who stars in the future where he gets all the opportunity.

729
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:33,760
If they're not good enough, they're not good enough, and

730
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,960
where are those guys now? They're not in the NHL,

731
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,880
and except for Pickerings too young obviously Addison Pulan, they

732
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,719
were not the ones you want to stake your claim

733
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,239
too because they weren't that good. And so just because

734
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,519
he was the best of the system doesn't mean that's

735
00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:49,960
who you should be targeting. I think Pickering is probably

736
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,760
gonna be a decent bottom pairing guy, but I don't

737
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,000
know he's going to be more than that. He might

738
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,239
be a second pairing, but he's not going to be

739
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,360
a fantasy asset. Oh, just move along and find someone else.

740
00:37:59,280 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 4: All right.

741
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes the answer is none of the above, and

742
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,559
I guess someone Pickering will not be included in my

743
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,639
trade offer to you. Next up, I won't even try

744
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:14,000
Next up. Noah Oasland is next up. As claim to

745
00:38:14,039 --> 00:38:18,360
fame was always hockey sense. He's a Buffalo Sabers forward prospect.

746
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,960
By the way, he got eight games with the big

747
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,719
club in Buffalo last year, not bad for twenty one

748
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,039
year old. To be fair, he was their first round

749
00:38:26,039 --> 00:38:29,320
pick or a first round pick in twenty twenty two.

750
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,239
He put up a lot of points in Rochester last year,

751
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,920
thirty six and forty five games, and he's off to

752
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,400
a good start again this year, but again he's another

753
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,920
one of them in the morass of Buffalo prospects that

754
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,920
were making our way through today. Noah Osland in the

755
00:38:46,039 --> 00:38:50,599
NHL ranking poll is going up against Brad Lambert, who

756
00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:52,880
is yet another enigma. I can't wait for the Winnipeg

757
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,679
episode to get more into him. But Oceland comes out

758
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,599
ahead of the Brad Lambert, who's five minutes getting really

759
00:39:00,639 --> 00:39:04,360
hot in prospect circles have seemed to have faded and

760
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,320
he's packed down there. He won. Oastland did sixty three

761
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,440
to thirty seven percent. Anyway, after all that, Victor, what

762
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:12,639
do you think of no Oceland?

763
00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of these guys who I think is

764
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,719
going to be He has done really well in the

765
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,079
AHL and I'm happy for him. I'm just not sure

766
00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:22,480
that he's going to be able to translate it to

767
00:39:22,519 --> 00:39:26,119
the NHL. Some of his underlying metrics just haven't been

768
00:39:26,119 --> 00:39:28,360
that good, even though he's been scoring a fair amount

769
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,159
in the AHL, and he is a bit undersized and

770
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,840
lack some physicality. So I just feel like at the

771
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,360
NHL level, if anything, he'll be a bottom six energy

772
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,679
type of play driving guy who could help against some

773
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,159
of the wors competition, but I don't think he can

774
00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:49,400
hang necessarily against the best of the best. I'm not

775
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,440
even sure he could be a shutdown forward, but in

776
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,760
the right matchup, in the right situation, he could be okay,

777
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,840
maybe provide some depth scoring. So not someone that I

778
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,239
would want to hang my hat on. I'm also confused

779
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,840
about Lambert, and we'll look forward to digging into him more.

780
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,519
But he has looked good in the AHL. He some

781
00:40:06,559 --> 00:40:08,840
of his underlying numbers haven't looked good, but he's produced

782
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,039
fifty five points in sixty four games and then had

783
00:40:11,039 --> 00:40:12,760
a little bit of a step back last year thirty

784
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,440
five points in sixty one games. He has had seven

785
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,880
games with the Jets one assist. Hasn't really looked really

786
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,599
great in those in that limited action, but I think

787
00:40:23,639 --> 00:40:25,320
there's still hope for him, and I think the upside

788
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,760
is higher for Lambert. So I would take him in

789
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:32,119
this comparison, even though the voters clearly picked Oaceland. But

790
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,559
I definitely would take Lambert. But the reality is that

791
00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:36,719
I'm not super excited about either of them, even though

792
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,519
I would rather have Lambert. I would be patient with him,

793
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,880
but probably would look for something more secure than that, Jesse,

794
00:40:44,039 --> 00:40:45,639
and I'm not sure that's going to come in our

795
00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:46,599
next option.

796
00:40:49,039 --> 00:40:52,679
Speaker 3: Oh, Victor, we are going through all the Kevin Adams

797
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,239
first round picks. As far as I can tell. The

798
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,760
Sabers have this history of the last few years. They

799
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,480
pick a lot of guys, a lot of decent forwards

800
00:41:01,519 --> 00:41:03,599
in the middle of the first round, and we're not

801
00:41:03,679 --> 00:41:06,039
quite sure how they're going to pan out. And this

802
00:41:06,119 --> 00:41:08,360
is the third four of them we're going to talk

803
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,199
about today. Doc Rosen, He's had two brief seats stints

804
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,199
with minimal production with the big club in Buffalo, but

805
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,360
he puts up decent numbers, like a lot of these

806
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:22,119
guys with the Rochester Americans at the AHL So Victor.

807
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,639
In the NHL ranking poll, I was surprised Zach Rosen

808
00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:28,440
went up against Cole Bodwin, who I think of is

809
00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:31,239
a pretty darn good prospect and one of the better

810
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,440
ones from that twenty twenty four draft. Rosen was picked

811
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,559
in twenty twenty one. But Rosen comes out ahead in

812
00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:42,400
this poll fifty six to forty four percent. These forwards

813
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,840
from Buffalo are all blurring together. From me, Victor, don't

814
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,920
get me started on Yuri Kolich tell us about is zac.

815
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 2: Rosen is not as good as Jeri Koulik, So I think,

816
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,519
there we go, Oh that's all you need to know,

817
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,719
and he's actually to me, he's pretty similar to oacelan

818
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,239
other I'd rather have Osland Versen great for him that

819
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,159
he there was this great behind the scenes documentary that

820
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,199
was done about him and how he shifted his game

821
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,199
to the more North American style and was able to

822
00:42:11,199 --> 00:42:13,519
be much more productive in the AHL, and we've seen

823
00:42:13,559 --> 00:42:15,960
that he was had fifty five points in sixty one

824
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,960
games last season for the Americans, looked great for the

825
00:42:20,039 --> 00:42:22,679
Rochester Americans. I just don't think that he's ever going

826
00:42:22,679 --> 00:42:24,400
to be able to translate that to the NHL. I

827
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,559
don't think the style, the way that he plays is

828
00:42:26,599 --> 00:42:29,280
going to be able to translate. And it shows that

829
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,239
even in his when he produced that a lot of

830
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,199
his expected goals in his course, he was still pretty weak.

831
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:38,239
He's someone who's on the doorstep and certainly looks like

832
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,639
he could. He's ready to translate that. I'm just not

833
00:42:41,679 --> 00:42:43,559
sure that he'll be able to. So if it were me,

834
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:47,360
I would not be choosing Rosen. I would take Bodwan Now, Bodwan,

835
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,480
I don't think it's going to be a big score,

836
00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:51,920
but man, the guy's going to bash like crazy. He's

837
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,119
got super high bash hits, block shots, everything looks great,

838
00:42:55,679 --> 00:42:58,280
his transition numbers. He's going to be a matchup nightmare

839
00:42:59,519 --> 00:43:01,519
kind of guy. If he could translate his scoring even

840
00:43:01,559 --> 00:43:04,320
a little bit close to fifty points, he could end

841
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,679
up being a pretty valuable prospect in banger leagues. But

842
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,079
the reality is a Boudwin probably won't do that, and

843
00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:13,239
he'll probably be more of a forty ish point guy.

844
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,760
But I still would rather have him because I think

845
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,360
he's for sure going to be an NHLer as opposed

846
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,639
to Roseenne. Even though he's done well in the HL,

847
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,840
I don't know that's really something that's necessarily going to translate.

848
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,079
And you look at how many games he's had now,

849
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,119
it's really good to have some production in the AHL

850
00:43:33,159 --> 00:43:35,719
when you're younger, but he's now, he's going to be

851
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,400
twenty three this season, and he's already one hundred and

852
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,880
ninety nine HL games, is recording this and has still

853
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,320
not been able to make the Sabers. He played seven

854
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,920
games two seasons ago, and then eight last season, he

855
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,920
didn't make the team again this year. That is not

856
00:43:53,079 --> 00:43:55,920
a good trajectory for a player he seems to be regretting,

857
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,320
even though he's dominating in the AHL. I think he's

858
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,440
someone that might just end up going back to and

859
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,280
probably having a decent career there. But that's not going

860
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,440
to help your fantasy rosters. So give me a Boudwan

861
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,440
even if the ceiling is lower, the prifts are high,

862
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,280
and who knows, maybe he could play compliment to one

863
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,840
of those top six lines and be the enforcer and

864
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,400
keep up with those guys and bang in some rebounds.

865
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,199
I'd rather take my chance on that.

866
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 3: Jesse, absolutely, I think, yeah, these guys have had the opportunities,

867
00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:30,280
whether they end up coming up and being complementary role players.

868
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:35,599
I don't foresee really big impact coming from iatzauck Rosen.

869
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,480
But the last of the players we're going to talk

870
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,800
about technically, he's also a first round Kevin Adams pick

871
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,519
from those years. Ready Murka was the pick this year.

872
00:44:46,199 --> 00:44:48,800
I feel like opinions on this guy range a lot,

873
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,880
because I know in these quarters we've not necessarily been

874
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,039
that high on Merca. Some see a guy who's primarily

875
00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:58,679
just really big, because that's a defining characteristic of mister

876
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:03,000
murcoz he's extremely tall man, but he's also not a mauler.

877
00:45:03,199 --> 00:45:06,159
He's not out there trying to Zadano Chara, not that

878
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:11,239
char was not skilled, but there's touch. There's a skill

879
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,360
to his game, or that's part of the theory because

880
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,119
the physicality is actually not there to match with the body.

881
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:24,000
Murka's just started with the ahl waiting to see what happens.

882
00:45:24,039 --> 00:45:25,880
But he is the hotness because he was picked in

883
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,800
the top ten of this year's draft and some I

884
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,199
think some real NHL types seem to like him, maybe

885
00:45:33,199 --> 00:45:36,360
more than fantasy types did. Anyway, we put him against

886
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:42,119
normally praised guy from the defenseman prospect ranks, Kevin Korchinski,

887
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,719
who we've talked about from the Chicago Blackhawks a number

888
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,800
of times, and how it seems like this guy is

889
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,800
going to bounce back at some point, but it hadn't

890
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,719
happened yet and he was not elevated above the fray

891
00:45:55,039 --> 00:45:58,480
by anything we said. Obviously, because in Mason blacks Pole,

892
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:03,760
Mirko wins out fifty nine to forty one percent. Is

893
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:08,480
this an opportunity the time to sell high on Merca

894
00:46:08,679 --> 00:46:12,360
before he drops or is I don't know what do

895
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,480
you think of Red and Merca? Anything changed your mind

896
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:14,840
so far?

897
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,119
Speaker 2: Not really. I think that i've I think a lot

898
00:46:20,119 --> 00:46:22,519
of people have been critical that Kevin Adams picks, but

899
00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:25,159
I think this one in general will work out well

900
00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:28,079
for the team. I don't know that he's that ready.

901
00:46:28,199 --> 00:46:31,880
Murca is going to be a great fantasy asset, but

902
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,079
he is big. He's not super physical, as you said,

903
00:46:35,079 --> 00:46:37,599
but he is a really good skater, probably going to

904
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:41,760
be an excellent defender of real life defender, but he's

905
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,360
not going to do much in fantasy. He's going to

906
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,840
be one of those guys who's out there for a

907
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,079
lot of minutes, who doesn't put up a lot of

908
00:46:47,079 --> 00:46:50,079
priffs and is you're Jonas Brodein type, Like he's out

909
00:46:50,119 --> 00:46:53,079
there a lot and he's helpful to your team, but

910
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:58,639
not to your fantasy team. And it's interesting the hotness here.

911
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,400
Maybe people are over rating that. And Koortchynsky is an

912
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,159
interesting case study because I feel like this is exactly

913
00:47:05,159 --> 00:47:07,119
why you don't rush players to the NHL. I know

914
00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:10,039
we all want to see it early, but he played

915
00:47:10,039 --> 00:47:13,280
seventy six games for the Blackhawks back in twenty three

916
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,800
twenty four, and I feel like it stunted his development.

917
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,079
He developed a lot of bad, bad habits. That team

918
00:47:18,199 --> 00:47:22,440
was terrible, and I think it forced him to adopt

919
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,400
some habits that were really not good, and he's had

920
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,079
a really hard time coming back from that. I think

921
00:47:26,079 --> 00:47:28,199
he can still be a good player Kevin Korchynsky, but

922
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,320
he almost has to relearn how to defend at the

923
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,559
professional level because he really has struggled a bit to

924
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,760
translate that. Again, he didn't even make the team this

925
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,679
year after baking him previously, and Renzel has passed him,

926
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,559
soonof has passed him, Alex Lasik has passed him. That's none.

927
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:48,760
That's good. But I think now they're being patient with him.

928
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,079
They're letting him really figure it out. And I hope

929
00:47:51,079 --> 00:47:54,360
that starting the NAHL, he's looked pretty good so far,

930
00:47:55,079 --> 00:47:57,159
let him really get his confidence back, get back on

931
00:47:57,159 --> 00:47:59,679
the rails, and let him be the guy he can be,

932
00:47:59,679 --> 00:48:01,639
because I still think he can be an effective player

933
00:48:01,679 --> 00:48:03,679
and someone you much rather would have in fantasy. So

934
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,920
actually this is if someone actually offer this to you,

935
00:48:07,159 --> 00:48:09,719
ridding Merka for Kevin Korchinsky, I would smash this. I

936
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:14,000
would say, absolutely, give me Korzyinsky, you take my Merka.

937
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,199
I'd be very happy with that. What about you, Jesse, I.

938
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 4: Bet you would.

939
00:48:19,039 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I would take that deal too. I

940
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:26,280
suspect that whoever has Mirka is higher on Mirka then

941
00:48:26,639 --> 00:48:30,639
would be for accepting this. They would see getting Korchynsky

942
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,079
with it as buy and low. But if I took

943
00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:35,840
over an orphan team, say that had Mirka, it would

944
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,840
probably first of all tell me they were picking late

945
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,239
ish in the first round, or maybe middle of the

946
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first round even worse, and decided to invest in this guy,

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and I probably would be trying to get something out

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of him.

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Speaker 4: Victor. That's actually all the guys we have today.

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Speaker 3: That's sort of an abbreviated lot, but it is a

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number of players that people can pay attention to. Why

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don't you let people know once again again how they

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can keep up with these new assessments as you have

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them coming out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely definitely check out mcckeens. That's where I'm writing these,

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trying to do two a month, And if you have

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some next one that you would like me to tackle,

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then feel free to let me know. I think the

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next one on the docket is going to be I think,

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I yeah, the Rangers are on the docket at the

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krakend and then then looking at who else, maybe the Devils.

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So if you have some teams that you want me

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to cover sooner than later, or some players from those

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teams that you're interested in having me cover, best places

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to hop into the discord where we have a channel

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set up for all these discussion. You can even ask

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follow up questions on the guys that are discussed or

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written about, and certainly about other players on that team.

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So all that's great stuff, get in the discord chat

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about or you can always email me or hit me

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up on Twitter x. But yeah, good stuff, and definitely

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check all that writing and all the good stuff over

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at McKean's awesome.

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Speaker 4: We will be right back to blot out.

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Speaker 3: A reminder show brought to you by pantracks dot com.

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Raight here. You can play leagues at Fantracks. You probably

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still start one if you really feel like it. Start

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a hockey league. We've set things up like a second

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half best ball draft. We've done things like that, so

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it's never too late to get those things going. You

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can move leagues over nine different sports always another one

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starting in the near future. Most options for scoring, salaries, contracts,

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rookie eligibility, slow drafts, rookie drafts, anything you can think of.

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Certain other websites have taken away the button or made

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it premium to start your players for the week right

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now still free at pan tracks. Give that some thought.

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There's lots of fantasy content there too, articles on fantasy hockey,

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the other fantasy sports. There is a big team that

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puts together these episodes, puts together the FHL experience. Shall

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we say, I think Victor and I pretty much did

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this episode, but we've got the tidy leagues is part

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of the Greater Fahl Empire, and Tim, Ryan, Simo and

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Kraftzer are doing good work behind the scenes to make

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those things happen. We have scouting reports that come in.

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Tony and Patrick are our lead scouts. Brandon helps the website,

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the prospect ranks, the visualizations that you see, and if

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you have skills you'd like to lend to the show.

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Victor would love to hear from you in the discord,

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email or social media. We're brought to you by Dauber Hockey,

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Daber Prospects Victors and editor there he writes the column

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The Journey. You also heard in this episode. You're writing

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articles for McKean's Hockey Now. I do a solo show

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called Dynasty Sports Life talk about four different Dynasty sports.

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Not sure there'll be an episode this week, but look

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for those to be coming out generally on Tuesdays. Social

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media follow us at fan Hockey Life at Victor Newno.

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Twelve on x Or on Blue Sky, Jesse Severe or

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The One Victor. Thank you for listening, Rate and review

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us on Apple, pod, Spotify, wherever else you get podcasts

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to listen to. Just make sure you have it there

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every week, because I want you to enjoy every minute

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of this fantasy hockey life