WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:05.160 The following presentation is a Al Marvis Studio's production. 2 00:00:23.160 --> 00:00:29.719 When you look on the sky, do you feel the 3 00:00:29.760 --> 00:00:40.640 poll question? Why the stories told and left behind in shadows? 4 00:00:40.799 --> 00:00:42.759 Where the truth we find? 5 00:00:45.079 --> 00:00:50.079 They built their tails on grafts and lies. 6 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:54.119 On theories they stake their designed. 7 00:00:55.479 --> 00:01:02.159 Put down here on this solid. 8 00:01:01.280 --> 00:01:04.799 The answer scream, They're all around. 9 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:09.239 Rising, break through. 10 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:13.560 All the lies. FAI. 11 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:18.959 Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It's time 12 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:22.680 for another edition of the Flat Earth Files podcast. I'm 13 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:26.200 your host As always, George Obs were recording on this 14 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:31.439 beautiful Wednesday morning, August thirteenth, twenty twenty five. As we 15 00:01:31.519 --> 00:01:35.920 again continue to wind down the podcast, Kevin is joining 16 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:41.359 us today from Huntsville, Alabama. And all of you longtime 17 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:47.359 anti globers know that this is a hotspot location specifically 18 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:50.760 post World War two and the build up into the 19 00:01:50.760 --> 00:01:55.079 Apollo mission. So Kevin is joining us today. Kevin, how 20 00:01:55.120 --> 00:01:56.439 are you there, man? 21 00:01:56.480 --> 00:01:58.079 I'm great, George, how are you today? 22 00:01:58.280 --> 00:02:00.480 Doing great? Thank you so much for taking your time 23 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:03.319 out this morning to join us and to share your story, 24 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:06.560 and we'll kick things off. Please introduce yourself to the audience. 25 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:10.159 All right, Well, first, first off, do you mind if 26 00:02:10.159 --> 00:02:11.960 I just say a little prayer going into this. 27 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:15.039 Amen, go right ahead, all right, the dear. 28 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:17.759 Heavenly Father, thank you so much. Thank you for just 29 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:19.879 all that you do. Thank you for all your blessings 30 00:02:19.960 --> 00:02:22.599 and giving us this day. And I just pray that 31 00:02:22.719 --> 00:02:26.919 anything that comes out of my mouth or George's mouth, 32 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:29.879 if it's not meant for a better your Kingdom, Lord, 33 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:32.960 that you can just you know, just take it away. 34 00:02:33.039 --> 00:02:36.719 And we just thank you for your son, Jesus and 35 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:41.080 they free gift of salvation that we're given. And thank 36 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:44.039 you so much for George what he does and even 37 00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:46.800 his family for being patient with him. I know it 38 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:49.719 takes a lot of work in this and just thank 39 00:02:49.759 --> 00:02:52.400 you so much for everything you do. And Jesus Holyame, 40 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:53.159 we pray Amen. 41 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:54.439 Amen, Brother, thank you. 42 00:02:56.560 --> 00:03:01.479 So. My name's Kevin. I'm forty seven, born and raised 43 00:03:02.240 --> 00:03:09.120 in the beautiful Rocket City, Huntsville, Alabama, and I actually. 44 00:03:10.199 --> 00:03:12.080 I'm sorry left for. 45 00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:17.639 Well, I guess a little over five years I did 46 00:03:17.639 --> 00:03:21.719 the go to as many football seasons for Auburn football 47 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:24.919 as I possibly could. So I attended Auburn University, which 48 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:30.439 those who don't know, it's an engineering hub and it's 49 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:37.680 very aero space. It's like concentration. So so I went 50 00:03:37.719 --> 00:03:45.680 to Auburn. Yeah, so attended Auburn University, was there for 51 00:03:45.719 --> 00:03:52.240 as many football seasons as possible, and never graduated. To 52 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:54.719 be honest with you, I literally had a year left. 53 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:59.879 I went through some really I guess, a pretty dark 54 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:02.759 time in my life towards the end of that. And 55 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:05.479 I can get to that my little testimony that I 56 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:12.159 do club. But anyway, so came home and went through 57 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:14.879 a rough period of my time for a good fifteen 58 00:04:14.919 --> 00:04:18.759 year or so, a little over fifteen years. The Lord 59 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:23.560 never stopped working on me. And you know, I ended 60 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:29.759 up married my awesome wife, she's my partner, and she 61 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:33.560 had which is she's my daughter. But she had a daughter. 62 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:36.800 So she was seven when I met her, and I 63 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:39.759 think she was eight when we got married. And then 64 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:42.399 my wife and I had another kid eight years ago, 65 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:50.680 me nine in December. But so anyways, then just went 66 00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:54.120 Then we started going through this crazy world and the 67 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:55.040 stories that come. 68 00:04:56.319 --> 00:04:58.839 Yeah, you know, as young men were kind of hard headed. 69 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:03.519 And I mentioned on my other podcast yesterday that Monday 70 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:08.079 I had to attend a funeral for a young man 71 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:10.639 twenty seven years old, and you know, we're at that 72 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:14.560 age where we think we're invincible and we don't care 73 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:17.800 about tomorrow. We live for today. And then we look 74 00:05:17.879 --> 00:05:19.800 back and you know, you and I are so blessed 75 00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:22.639 to have made it through that time. We both found 76 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:27.519 wonderful women that helped, you know, keep us focused and 77 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:31.040 walk the straight and narrow path, and through the grace 78 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:34.600 of the Lord, we've been able to better ourselves. And then, 79 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:36.839 you know, hopefully take this information to share it with 80 00:05:36.839 --> 00:05:39.160 the younger generation to help them understand that you're not 81 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:43.040 invincible and we should treat life with respect and love. 82 00:05:43.079 --> 00:05:45.480 And it's the same thing right when we were young. 83 00:05:45.560 --> 00:05:49.240 I'm sure your parents are older uncles or whatever the 84 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:51.480 case may be. Probably we were trying to tell you something, 85 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:52.839 but we knew everything right. 86 00:05:53.759 --> 00:05:56.839 Now, absolutely, and it was and it it was kind 87 00:05:56.839 --> 00:05:59.800 of crazy because they even when I was when it 88 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:02.319 when I was going through my darkest time and like it. 89 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:06.839 And now I said, it got pretty dark depression wise, 90 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:13.160 developed bad anxiety, but it was, yeah, and it was. 91 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:16.199 You know, I grew up in a family of believers, 92 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:18.800 so I was raised well, went to church. I was 93 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:21.279 saved when I was thirteen years old. You know, got 94 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:25.759 baptized and the first few years was great. And then 95 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:29.319 in fact, I didn't drink a sip of alcohol in 96 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:31.480 high school, and I know, like, you know, that's kind 97 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:36.560 of normal, like you know for high schoolers, and you 98 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:38.439 know I always said it was because you know, I 99 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:40.720 played football. So I was like, yeah, I don't want 100 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:43.120 any excuse if I don't make it in college and 101 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:45.600 get a scholarship. I don't want to have any excuses 102 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:47.920 to say, well, if I wouldn't have partied as hard 103 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:53.600 or whatever. And after my senior year of high school 104 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:57.279 started dabbling in it a little bit. And of course, 105 00:06:57.319 --> 00:07:01.839 you know in the SEC, college football rains and you know, 106 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:03.959 you went to Texas A and M I know you were. 107 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:06.120 I guess you were Big twelve. Was it Big ten 108 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:06.920 or Big twelve? 109 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:08.480 I think it's bak twelve. Yeah. 110 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:11.759 Yeah, So now of course they're in the SEC. 111 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:12.319 That's right. 112 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:17.439 But yeah, we get to plague you guys in college station. 113 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:20.160 This is right. You have about eighty five thousand people. 114 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:22.079 It's low college states have. 115 00:07:22.680 --> 00:07:26.480 Yes, that ought to be fun, but you know, the 116 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:29.920 whole thing's tailgating. I mean it's like, you know, everything's 117 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:31.199 revolved around a party. 118 00:07:31.399 --> 00:07:35.720 It is Yeah, no, I didn't mean interrupt, I just 119 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:38.079 it truly is. And that's one of the things you 120 00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:40.680 don't really realize until later in life and kind of 121 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:43.639 reflect on those things. And as soon as you say Auburn, 122 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:45.800 by the way, Bo Jackson, for the young folks who 123 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:48.680 had never seen that man play either baseball or football, 124 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:49.839 what a tremendous athlete. 125 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:55.279 Unbelievable. I really I want more people to know about him, 126 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:58.439 because there's a lot you know, they say athletes get better, 127 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:00.000 like as the years go. 128 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:02.519 On, there'll be I be another Bo Jackson. 129 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:06.519 He was in He's insane. I mean uh. And the 130 00:08:06.639 --> 00:08:10.079 funny thing is is like I've heard like not necessarily 131 00:08:10.120 --> 00:08:13.480 like first hand accounts of people, well the people that 132 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:16.639 knew him, first hand accounts, because you know, Ann Auburn, 133 00:08:17.120 --> 00:08:20.639 but the stories are like, there's no way and the 134 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:22.839 guy was like, yeah, I was there. It really literally 135 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:26.240 happened exactly that way, and you're like, there's it's insane. 136 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:28.879 The stuff that he could do. Of course, whenever you 137 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:32.120 can be you know, going to football, start breaking records 138 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:34.519 as a rookie for the Raiders and then go to 139 00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:39.399 the Royals and then make the All Stars it's like, yeah, 140 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:41.840 anything he wanted to do, he could do, and even 141 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:43.240 what he knew it. 142 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:47.480 Too, absolutely. But yeah, then you get into college and 143 00:08:47.799 --> 00:08:51.120 there's a lot of temptations that go along with. 144 00:08:51.080 --> 00:08:53.759 It, right as yeah, I mean it will. And it 145 00:08:54.440 --> 00:08:57.799 was because in my mind it was like it was 146 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:00.759 more worldly, you know. It was it's kind of like 147 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:03.639 everybody expected. You know, it was like, oh, don't worry, 148 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:05.759 you don't drink now. But once you get into college, well, 149 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:08.679 you know, I want to have my first beer with you, you know. 150 00:09:08.759 --> 00:09:10.679 And it was like the parents you come home and 151 00:09:10.679 --> 00:09:14.200 they were like, they're in college, just take their keys away. 152 00:09:14.320 --> 00:09:16.639 You know. It was like even though we were not 153 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:20.759 twenty one, we weren't of age, but it was and yeah, 154 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:24.039 the generational demons that I didn't realize that I had 155 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:28.919 back then, and uh, you know, now with a little 156 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:32.279 research and actually me digging into the Bible like I have, 157 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:37.960 it's I'm I start I realize it fast, Like, Okay, 158 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:41.480 I there was a lot going on and I probably. 159 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:43.080 Should have stayed away from all of that. 160 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:46.200 So hindsight twenty twenty. 161 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:49.240 Hey exactly. Huh. Yeah, if that's how we got our 162 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:52.000 wisdom through our through you know, if we had our 163 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:55.120 brain in our twenty two year old body would be unstoppable, right, 164 00:09:57.240 --> 00:09:59.320 But that's that's the way the world works, you know. 165 00:09:59.440 --> 00:10:02.159 I I don't know if I mentioned on this podcast 166 00:10:02.279 --> 00:10:05.080 or the other one. You know, we saw some statistics 167 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:08.960 within the last two weeks of the drop off between 168 00:10:08.960 --> 00:10:13.039 the ages of eighteen and mid twenties. It's like somewhere 169 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:15.799 between sixty and eighty percent of the people kind of 170 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:19.720 walk away from their faith during that age. And college 171 00:10:19.879 --> 00:10:22.720 plays a large part of that. And just the initial 172 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:26.039 kind of freedom, you know, you get under the thumb 173 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:28.480 for mom and dad and you just want to you know, 174 00:10:30.919 --> 00:10:34.279 it's a lot. And yeah, young men and women mostly 175 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:36.440 men aren't just just aren't ready for it. 176 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:40.519 Well. And two, it was like now that I understand 177 00:10:40.840 --> 00:10:47.879 like the New a and you kind of get you know, 178 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:52.120 it's the water down Gospel. So it was like, oh, 179 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:54.360 I'm doing all this and like, dude, but I mean, 180 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:57.159 I'm a Christian and so I don't even call myself 181 00:10:57.159 --> 00:10:59.759 a Christian anymore. I'm literally and I think you've I've 182 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:02.240 heard you say this before, but I'm a christ follower, 183 00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:05.720 Like I just don't even think that word has any 184 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:11.759 merit like, it's because it you know, once you literally 185 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:16.000 once I started digging and studying and reading the Bible, 186 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:19.000 I've almost I have, I looked it back. I have 187 00:11:19.200 --> 00:11:21.919 fifteen more books and I will have read the whole Bible, 188 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:25.360 so I'm semi you know, newer on it, and most 189 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:27.759 of them, I've read the whole New Testament and I've 190 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:30.679 I've got about fifteen books left in the Old Testament. 191 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:35.039 So but it's you know, that's definitely a goal, if 192 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:39.080 God willing, if you know, it allows me to stay 193 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:42.519 on this earth long enough to do it. But yeah, 194 00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:44.519 I was like, I've got to at least read through 195 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:45.600 the Bible one time. 196 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:48.200 Yeah, say, what are you write around Thessalonian's Timothy? 197 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:52.279 Well, so it's crazy because so I've been through all 198 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:56.519 of the New Testament, oh Adana. Then I do Bible study. 199 00:11:56.759 --> 00:11:59.720 So it's like random books in the Old Testament. You know, 200 00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:02.080 it's like whichever ones I haven't studied or I haven't 201 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:06.279 read on my own yet. I just finished a well, 202 00:12:06.519 --> 00:12:11.399 I just finished Song of Songs, which was extremely interesting. 203 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:17.039 It wasn't quite aware of that book in the Bible yet, 204 00:12:17.120 --> 00:12:21.360 so but I just finished that one. So it's whatever 205 00:12:21.399 --> 00:12:26.399 the next one is is, I'll be you know, the Jeremiah, Ezekiel's, 206 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:28.000 Isaiah's you know. 207 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:30.440 So Jeremiah is a real interesting one. 208 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:31.600 Yeah. 209 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:33.440 As a matter of fact, just off the top of 210 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:35.799 my head, Jeremiah nine to eleven, because I always look 211 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:38.600 for those numbers nine to eleven and I something in 212 00:12:38.679 --> 00:12:43.080 me there's something significant to nine to eleven and Jeremiah. Oh, 213 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:47.679 Jeremiah nine to eleven. It describes a prophecy of judgment 214 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:50.559 and destruction. So that's why that number always sticked. 215 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:50.639 That. 216 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:56.279 Jeremiah nine to eleven very very interesting. So you'll that 217 00:12:56.320 --> 00:13:00.720 book is very eye opening, the Book of Jeremiah. 218 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:06.000 The one thing that's really crazy about that is when 219 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:08.879 you do, like I know, you do the Gematria and 220 00:13:08.919 --> 00:13:12.159 all that, and you do realize there's a lot of 221 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:17.440 it's just so fun hearing things, seeing things on TV, 222 00:13:17.519 --> 00:13:21.080 even in commercials, and then you know, watching movies and 223 00:13:21.159 --> 00:13:23.600 TV shows like are you kidding me? 224 00:13:25.559 --> 00:13:26.399 And I don't know it. 225 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:29.120 I don't study it. You know, I know what you say, 226 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:32.879 you know, be careful with You'll see the numbers all 227 00:13:32.919 --> 00:13:35.080 of you know, these are big numbers that they like 228 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:37.879 to throw out and they mean this, and it's like, yeah, 229 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:42.279 they really do. Start watching for numbers on apartment buildings 230 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:45.519 and you know, the buildings on TV and cab numbers. 231 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:49.480 Yeah, I see thirty three all over the place, everywhere. 232 00:13:49.720 --> 00:13:52.000 It was so funny. There was a U and I 233 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:54.559 can't remember it was, you know, of course buried back 234 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:58.240 in the media, but it was some something that happened. 235 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:02.240 And Ma was telling me about it, and we were 236 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:04.120 looking and I said, let me ask you a question. 237 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:08.000 I said, we're they're thirty three people involved? And she 238 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:11.279 looks and she goes, yeah, there were. And I said, okay, 239 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:15.679 how did you know that. It's like, because it sounded 240 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:16.679 like one of those. 241 00:14:17.080 --> 00:14:19.480 I'll randomly go into Google and put thirty three and 242 00:14:19.480 --> 00:14:21.519 then click on news and there'll be a red. Within 243 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:23.000 a day or two, there'll be a story that has 244 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:27.639 the number thirty three in some way, shape or form. 245 00:14:27.799 --> 00:14:30.639 Oh I believe it. Yeah, it's it's it's insane. 246 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:34.879 Excellent. Let's let's talk about a little bit about your journey. 247 00:14:34.919 --> 00:14:37.159 When did you start to notice the world as it's 248 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:40.559 presented to us is not what it seemed good. 249 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:45.559 So this is where it gets a little odd, because 250 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:47.679 so I told. 251 00:14:47.519 --> 00:14:49.840 You like kind of where I had like anxiety problems 252 00:14:49.840 --> 00:14:50.279 and stuff. 253 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:51.320 Yeah, And. 254 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:56.679 So I was I was drinking a really good bit 255 00:14:56.799 --> 00:15:00.519 and I was smoking a lot of weed and I 256 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:03.639 carried that all the way through and it was something 257 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:06.399 that I thought, oh, yeah, I can do this, no problem. 258 00:15:06.440 --> 00:15:10.200 And one night it was twenty nineteen and I was 259 00:15:10.440 --> 00:15:13.960 watching the TV and I was seeing pictures of Portland, 260 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:17.440 Oregon in Seattle, Washington, and it was a man that 261 00:15:17.759 --> 00:15:22.399 literally came across and said, this is a mostly peaceful protest. 262 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:26.960 And I'm watching buildings burning and people with backs like 263 00:15:27.080 --> 00:15:30.639 swinging them at people, and I'm thinking, okay, like this 264 00:15:30.679 --> 00:15:33.159 is like a joke, isn't it. And it kept going 265 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:35.600 and kept going and turned it to another news station, 266 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:39.120 same thing, and I started going crazy. I was like, 267 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:41.919 what in the world is going on? Because I trusted everything. 268 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:45.879 I was very worldly trusted, didn't know anything about the 269 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:48.039 media that they lied or they did that. I mean, 270 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:50.679 but I'm thinking there's no way they think I'm just stupid. 271 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:56.279 So I was going crazy and I literally thought I 272 00:15:56.320 --> 00:16:01.159 was going crazy. And of course then twenty twenty happened, 273 00:16:01.840 --> 00:16:07.039 and I was I was kind of deep, like getting 274 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:11.440 the depression wise, and my wife even came up to 275 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:14.879 me and she was very supportive and but she thought 276 00:16:14.919 --> 00:16:17.279 I was going in saying and she was like, you 277 00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:19.919 need to get some help. And it was just so 278 00:16:20.080 --> 00:16:22.360 frustrating because I kept seeing stuff and I was like, 279 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:24.799 I know this is not what this is like it did. 280 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:29.919 Nothing is as it seems. And one day I started 281 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:34.039 getting a stomach ache and didn't feel good, like almost 282 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:37.120 like maybe a stomach bug. And it was a Tuesday, 283 00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:41.159 I know. I think it was on Tuesday, the night 284 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:47.240 of November twenty twenty, and by that Thursday to twelve, 285 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:50.159 so maybe in the tenth so whatever date it was. 286 00:16:50.200 --> 00:16:57.519 But anyways, Thursday to twelve, I had like blooding my 287 00:16:57.559 --> 00:17:00.320 stool and so I was like, I am you know what, 288 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:03.399 I probably need to go to the emergency room. So 289 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:06.240 my life was like, you know, I'm sorry, I'm busy 290 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:08.960 right now. She works from home, and she was like, 291 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:12.599 I'm really busy. So my and she guys can see 292 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:15.000 if your daughter, our daughter can take to you. And 293 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:17.759 I was like okay. So she drove me to the er, 294 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:20.359 dropped me off, and I walked in. George, I'm not 295 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:23.240 kidding you. There was zero people in the emergency room. 296 00:17:24.039 --> 00:17:29.079 Huntsville is a very medical city as well. It has 297 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:34.079 a huge medical and the emergency room in Huntsville Hospital 298 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:38.839 is not what you would call like the guessl it 299 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:41.720 like there's a million people all the time. It was 300 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:44.880 a ghost town, and I thought this is odd. So 301 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:47.440 there was another guy that actually walked in with me. 302 00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:50.359 So me and one other guy went back to triage. 303 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:53.119 I was in a room within five minutes of basically 304 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:56.000 walking in, well after they triage me, like five minutes 305 00:17:56.039 --> 00:17:59.599 of walking in, and her nurse comes back there and 306 00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:05.119 she she said, Kevin, can you give me just a second, 307 00:18:05.119 --> 00:18:06.920 because she started hooking me up to all this. 308 00:18:06.920 --> 00:18:10.880 Stuff, and all of a sudden, I hear well from 309 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:14.400 the outside of the room, I hear her voice come 310 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:18.799 over and she's basically getting the crash team into my 311 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:21.759 room as quickly as she possibly can. 312 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:27.759 My heart rate was two ninety poh whitch well, I 313 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:30.279 didn't know anything. I thought I was having another one 314 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:33.480 of my panic attack. So I've lived with this for 315 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:37.200 over twenty years. At this point, you know, the doctor 316 00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:40.400 was like, I mean, I'm talking they it was and 317 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:42.799 they were good. I mean I'm talking that they had 318 00:18:42.839 --> 00:18:45.680 ten people in there flipping me upside down, but I 319 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:48.599 had somebody laying on top of me doing all kinds 320 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:51.359 of stuff. And the doctor was like, Okay, we need 321 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:53.759 to make sure that you know, would you just get 322 00:18:53.799 --> 00:18:55.960 you and I and he's looking, here is Kevin stay 323 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:58.839 with me? And I'm thinking this is pretty mormal. I 324 00:18:58.880 --> 00:19:01.119 mean I can ri do that. I just have to breathe. 325 00:19:01.519 --> 00:19:03.559 And he goes, Kevin, this is not normal. 326 00:19:05.319 --> 00:19:08.599 That's glassy when somebody has to tell you that, you know, 327 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:10.920 what's your feeling is not normal? Right? 328 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:15.160 Well, and you know, the golly man, this is this 329 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:19.839 was all a god thing. So he basically printed out 330 00:19:20.039 --> 00:19:23.519 I guess they had the EKG stuff hooked up or whatever. Well, 331 00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:27.039 he ran like ten printouts because he said in like 332 00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:29.359 at that minute, he was like, I've got to study 333 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:32.319 this because I've never seen this before. Like the last 334 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:36.039 person I saw like this was he didn't say that 335 00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:39.720 they died, but he said that they won't with me. 336 00:19:40.279 --> 00:19:43.279 So and it was two seventy and so when mine 337 00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:45.440 was two ninety, he was like, I don't even know 338 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:49.599 how he's still like conscious, like looking at me. So 339 00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:52.279 they get a specialist in him because he had done 340 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:57.279 like multiple like readouts. They found a pattern and found 341 00:19:57.319 --> 00:20:00.519 out exactly what it was. But they like it got 342 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:03.359 so bad that the stuff that likes that they give 343 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:06.319 you that stops your heart. Uh they gave it to 344 00:20:06.359 --> 00:20:10.519 me twice, and they're not they're not supposed to because 345 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:12.680 the first time they gave it to me at my 346 00:20:12.799 --> 00:20:15.440 heart rate only came down to like one forty something, 347 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:20.359 and then they did it again and then it got 348 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:23.200 down to where it was like manageable, but it was 349 00:20:23.240 --> 00:20:28.200 still around like one twenty. And so the but the specialists, 350 00:20:28.359 --> 00:20:30.279 you know, he was there right away. And I do 351 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:33.160 have to say, man, this emergency medical team, like they 352 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:37.960 were great. There's a you know, some of the medical 353 00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:41.119 industrial complex things that go on, like you know, it's 354 00:20:41.160 --> 00:20:43.720 a little crazy, but these these guys were like they 355 00:20:43.720 --> 00:20:48.799 were they were awesome. And but yeah, they basically got 356 00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:53.039 me in for surgery on Friday, November the thirteenth, and 357 00:20:53.279 --> 00:20:56.319 uh so I had ended up having this thing called 358 00:20:56.359 --> 00:21:00.480 atrial flutter. And he said basically after they that they 359 00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:03.920 performed in Ablazian the next day and said that if 360 00:21:04.440 --> 00:21:09.240 you know, you won't have panic attacks anymore. So I 361 00:21:09.319 --> 00:21:12.039 was like, well, this is awesome, you knows. It was 362 00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:17.119 basically like, I guess my heart had issues and I 363 00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:19.039 didn't know it, and they said it was it could 364 00:21:19.039 --> 00:21:21.519 have been from being you know, a burst defect, you know, 365 00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:24.839 having two extra cells in your heart to where it was. 366 00:21:25.519 --> 00:21:29.039 Instead of it going through the electrical rhythm that it's 367 00:21:29.039 --> 00:21:31.880 supposed to, it would mine would kind of go round 368 00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:34.359 and round in a circuit. So I was barely getting 369 00:21:34.400 --> 00:21:38.680 blood like you into the extremities of my body and whatnot, 370 00:21:38.960 --> 00:21:41.920 and so it's like, no, yeah, I can't understand how 371 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:46.240 how crazy that I probably did feel. So anyways, I 372 00:21:46.279 --> 00:21:51.799 started healing from that and started seeing and doing some research, 373 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:57.279 and one day my wife asked me a question. She said, 374 00:21:58.359 --> 00:22:04.440 do you know who Kyrie irving Ish? And I said, yeah, 375 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:07.599 he's a basketball player that went to Duke And she said, 376 00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:12.400 well is it aren't they supposed to be smart And 377 00:22:12.440 --> 00:22:15.759 I said, yes, there are. And we'd already like had 378 00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:19.960 found out a bunch of we were researching the the 379 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:23.119 shot at that time. We were you know, there was 380 00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:25.240 a few other things that we found out, Like we 381 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:28.200 just kind of started this truth journey like right or wrong, 382 00:22:28.279 --> 00:22:30.880 you know, the tweeny twenty twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, 383 00:22:31.559 --> 00:22:34.480 and she just she said, so aren't they supposed to 384 00:22:34.519 --> 00:22:37.319 be smart? And I said, yeah, I mean then went 385 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:40.160 to Duke and you know, and she goes and I said, 386 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:41.920 I don't you know, I saw I heard something the 387 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:44.559 other day said I think he believes like the earth 388 00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:46.839 is flat? And she goes, well do you think it is? 389 00:22:46.960 --> 00:22:49.559 And we both looked at each other and started busting 390 00:22:49.599 --> 00:22:52.599 out laughing. George like, I know your journey. You were 391 00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:55.000 like the two weeks and no sleep and can't believe 392 00:22:55.039 --> 00:22:58.279 it and got mad at yourself. It was the funniest thing. 393 00:22:58.319 --> 00:23:01.519 We're like, I can gear this is probably true. 394 00:23:01.880 --> 00:23:04.839 If we look into this, we're probably gonna fly this year. 395 00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:07.160 But it was so like it was kind of like, 396 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:10.319 after you hear all you have to do is tell 397 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:12.640 me like one line and it was a big log. 398 00:23:12.720 --> 00:23:15.279 Then I'm like, dude, I'm gonna you know, I'm at 399 00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:19.640 least gonna look into it. So I wanted a podcast 400 00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:20.200 to listen to. 401 00:23:20.359 --> 00:23:23.240