Speaker 1: Hey guys, Welcome to another Sasquatch Theory podcast tonight. I'm
joined by Pete from North Carolina, a lifelong outdoorsman, Army veteran,
and witness to decades of strange activity along the Dan River,
the Smith River, and the Blue Ridge Mountains. What started
as missing deer, unexplained sounds, and strange movement near the
river eventually turned into a face to face encounter with
an eight foot tall sasquatch that approached him and his
son while hunting. Pete describes a charcoal gray creature with
short hair, a massive brow ridge, sunken eyes, thin lips,
and a powerful muscular build. A bean that moved with
intelligence and purpose from bluff charges, red eyed figures, broken
neck animals, rocks and limbs thrown at fishermen, tree knocks,
whistles echoing across the river, and unexplained lights moving through
the forest. Pete's story connects a long chain of events
that span multiple properties and locations. This is not one encounter.
This is a lifetime of experiences that built up to
something he can no longer explain away. If you enjoy
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With all that being said, let's dive straight into Pete's
bigfoot encounters from the state of North Carolina. All right, Pete,
welcome back to Sasquatch Theory. It's an absolute pleasure to
have you back on the podcast, and you told your
encounters from North Carolina from the Dan River. If you would,
let's talk about those experiences, those encounters again and kind
of refreshing everyone on what you saw and everything that's
happened since our last podcast.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, back on my first podcast with you,
I talked about it Spy and me and my son
had back in. It was twenty and twelve March or
twenty fifth and I we'll forget it. We went out
into the river bottoms to get some river cane and.
Speaker 3: There was this place that.
Speaker 2: I nted for like twelve years, and I'd had all
kinds of weird stuff.
Speaker 3: Happened to me there, you know.
Speaker 2: I'd had the animals stole from me there that I shot, stole.
Speaker 3: Out here, vocalizations, wondered what.
Speaker 2: They were, had stuff moved around. I'd actually was in
a blind and had one of them walk up behind me.
But the morning we had the sight and we walked
up a you had to walk up, you had to park.
Used to you could ride in, but the four wheelers
got so bad tearing up his land everything. He put
up a gate and we parked outside the gate. There.
We walked about seventy five yards. We topped this hill
and there was this long bottom that went out. When
we topped the hill, I thought I was looking at
a man, and way out in the corner of the bottom,
I seen something. I thought it was just an explosion
of movement. I thought it was something a little like
a bat was running on all fours and my son
was sort of standing to the to the left front
of me, and he was frozen, and all of a
sudden I caught something out of the corner of my
eye to the left down the hill towards the creek
where the bottom ended, and it was but anyway caught movement,
and I looked and this thing was running up the
hill towards us. It was about something eight foot tall.
Uh it uh was running right at us. I just
froze and my son was still looking at the one
running out along the bottom, the real long bottom, And
then all of a sudden, this thing just veered off
and went up in the woods. And but when we
went out into the field, I I want, it wasn't
registering to me what had just happened. You know, you
just everything you've been taught stuff like that don't exist.
Speaker 3: But it does.
Speaker 2: But you know, at the time, it wasn't registered on
me what I had seen. So we went on out
in the bottom and we were getting the river cane
to make some ras. And while we were standing there,
when we're in a huge bottom right there along the river,
you can look out along this tree line or people
call them headgerows, tree lines, property lines. But you could
see this thing, the one that had run out along
that long bottom. It it went up and it was
standing there watching us the whole time. We picked the
river cane and my son he was being out of shaving.
He's going dadless, let's get it out of here. I said,
it ain't bothering us. And I said if it, if
it comes towards us, we'll.
Speaker 3: Just go down the river.
Speaker 2: And uh but it stood there the whole time until
we left and watched us. And I tell people now,
if you got a camera, if you got a cell phone,
always take it with you because you just don't never
know what you're going to run up on a sea. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, What did the sasquatch look like? Did they both
look identical or do they look different?
Speaker 2: The one I really didn't get a good look at,
the one that that run out along the long bottom
because it was saying it was it was standing maybe
thirty forty yards away, but you know, I was it
was just so much movement going on.
Speaker 3: You didn't know what to look at.
Speaker 2: And then this other one come bysh my best recorllet Uh.
What I can remember is, you know, I never wrote
anything down, but I'm starting to. This thing was about
seven eight foot tall.
Speaker 3: It was covered in.
Speaker 2: Uh like a charcoal gray or grayish black uh hat
wanting a long hair, It's more like fuzz. The abdomen,
didn't have no hair on it, and you could see
every muscle in it. I mean, it was if it
was ripped. The only thing I'd say it had a
there was no hair around the face. It's just like
the hair went around. It had a flat nose, thin lips, uh,
raised aylbrow, you know, really abrupt sunken eyes. Uh it.
You know, if you looked at it, you'd say eight
maybe human looking both maybe you know That's what I sang.
But I'd seen them before, and I didn't know what
they were. I thought they were bass because they were
on all fours. I've seen them twice before. And but
the only thing that got me about that, when a
bass says you it's gonna bolt, it's not gonna it's
not gonna wagh around, it's gonna boat. And whatever this was,
it was on all fours. And I was down there
another time getting the river cane and looking for mushrooms
and morals, and and uh, it watched me the whole
time I was there, and it was on all fours.
But as time went on, you know, I talked to you,
I got out of service, and I would say it
was nineteen eighty. I spent three years in the army,
and when I got out of the army, I was
helping a guy in tobacco and he.
Speaker 3: Had several properties, and.
Speaker 2: I started getting into airhead hunting and I go go
to this one place. One place I airhead hunted. I
also catfished at night.
Speaker 3: And I remember.
Speaker 2: Me and a fellaw we went down one night and
fished and we uh. All of a sudden, that looking
down the bottom, and I tapped him on the shoulder.
I said, you see that light coming up a river
bottom and he said, ah, it's that's a street light.
I said, it ain't nobody, ain't no houses down in here.
I said, this this river bottom goes probably it was
probably a mile long. And then also it went where
the river bottom stopped, there was a big creek come
in and up that creek there were two creeks that met,
and right in that fort was an Indian man and
that's where that light come out of the woods at
and uh.
Speaker 3: But I kept watching that light.
Speaker 2: He kept fishing, and finally this light was about fifty
yards from us. I tapped him on the shoulder. I said, look,
street light right there, it's moving. He said, let's get
out of here, I said, I've been wanting to go
for the last hour. But as time went on, you know,
I never didn't think much more about that. But as
time went on, I hunting some other places, and uh,
there was one bottom in particular. It was another huge
bottom here along as Dan River. I would say at
bottom was probably almost two miles long. And uh, when
I first started hunting, hunting the bottom, you know it, Uh,
you know, you didn't you don't think about things. But
I remember as you come down to park at the
bottom half that there was some people this sort of
lived up the road there.
Speaker 3: Not far from where where our part.
Speaker 2: But they had a they were elderly couple and they
had a German shepherd dog and he would come running
down there every time and he'd bark at you, you know,
and I'd always throw my hand up if them pay
out in the yard. But I remember it was like
maybe two or three years I hunted that bottom. Probably
ten years, but I would say two to three years
I was down there, you know, in that timeframe aread hunting.
Speaker 3: And it was all.
Speaker 2: Farm road.
Speaker 3: It split the bottoms in there, and I was walking.
Speaker 2: Out along that road there and that was that German
shepherd dog laying on its side and it was dead.
And I said, what load life has then shot this dog?
I thought maybe a hunder down there and shot the
dog or something, you know, and uh. I walked over
to the dog and I turned it over. There was
no blood on it, but I got to know his
head was wabbling around. Says neck must have been broken.
I'm going, well, that don't have this dog die? Well,
you know, I didn't think too much more about that,
you know, and.
Speaker 3: H you just don't.
Speaker 2: You know, you're not you know when something's wrong, but
you just can't put your finger on it.
Speaker 3: So ah.
Speaker 2: As time went on, I started finding more dead dogs
down the now with the next broken. And I think
one of the last times I went in that bottom
down in the far corner of the bottom, there was.
Speaker 3: The river made a bend in now and it was
a huge ticket right along the river there run along
the river.
Speaker 2: And some bottom ash and and sycamores and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: And I was hunting right in that bend.
Speaker 2: There was a little vintage sight there and I was
hunting airheads. And I said, I'm gonna walk down that
ticket look out across the river there because I know
as long as I'd hunted that bottom, I never had.
So I go down in that ticket and I'm walking
up along the river there and there was this bottom ash,
white ash, and right below it was a hunk of
meat half the size of attire below that tree, and
I'm going, what what in the heck?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Uh? And up on up there's a cow pasture and
down but it's really an upland cow pasture. And the
only thing I thought, you know, something killed a cow
and brought the meat down there and put it under
that tree like it was hiding it. But I'm going
a bear or Mountline's gonna eat it right there. You know,
they're not gonna carry something and hide it. That would
take hands. You know. It just weirded me out. And
I got out of there that day. I said, there's
something strange going on here, So I left. Now, that
was one of the last times I hunted that bottom.
But always it was I always thought that it was
some use being watched in that bottom. You know, you
got that feeling you're being watched. But but going on back. Ah,
that was my experience.
Speaker 3: For that bottom.
Speaker 2: Uh. But mainly all the bottoms that I ever went
in in that area.
Speaker 3: I always thought I was being watched. You just had
that feeling like you had eyeballs on you. But uh,
then I bought Uh.
Speaker 2: As time went on, me and my son, as he
got older, we started doing some fly fishing together and
we go up on the apple Smith River.
Speaker 3: That was a tributary of the Dam.
Speaker 2: Well listen, uh, right the area where I lived, The
Smith float into the Dan the Mayo River. Uh. Let's
see Cashcade Creek and Wolf Island Cree. Those were two
big all the two two big tributaries of the day.
But up on the apple Smith we were up below
the Blue Blue Ridge mountains. We had the foot of them,
and it was a place we used to go. We parked,
go up the river do some fly fishing and spinner
fishing for trout. And I remember one time uh that
we went up. We were waiting up for river. Down
river made up a bend, real sharp bend in them
and uh and it was a blood fair. It was rocky,
not no big trees, but it was some And right
as we got in the bend of the river there
where that bluff was, it was something that went up
that bluff and it sounded like a cow or buffalo
going through them trees, knocking the limbs off. And but
we went back down the creek, got in the truck
and left. I don't know what that was, didn't know
what it was, But now that I look back on things,
I have a feeling I know what it was. But
as time went on, we fished that place some more,
and I remember we had parked at this other place.
Speaker 3: This guy gave us permission. He had a.
Speaker 2: Cow pasture in there, kept his horses, and we would
talk air and walk out through the pasture of this
one spot, and then we'd wade up the creek. Well,
I remember we were fishing that day and we were
doing pretty good. We were having a good day fishing.
And we walked up and there was this like there
was a bank, saw of a steep bank, and uh.
We walked up that bank and we were in the
corner of the bottom right off to the left. It
was bluff that come down on some bolders and I am
and it sounded like a baby crime. I said, something
you hear that asks a baby crime. Well, I started
walking towards it, and he grabbed me. He said, Daddy,
they ain't no baby. I said, what you mean, He said,
there ain't no baby. Why would a baby be out
here in the middle of nowhere. So that was another
time I got weardy of that.
Speaker 3: We went, we.
Speaker 2: Walked on down the river.
Speaker 3: Back to the call. We left that day.
Speaker 2: I remember as time went on, I kept fishing that place,
and I'm one year we went up. Well, I went
up there by myself and it was in Mark was
into February March. It was still cold. Ah, I mean
I had to wear waiters. UH had to layer up,
you know. It was still cold, but still some good
trap fishing. And I walked up on a sandbar and uh,
there were three sets of barefoot footprints.
Speaker 3: I'm going, somebody's.
Speaker 2: Been down there for fishing and walking in the creek barefooted,
you know. And now that I look back on that,
why would anybody be down there in cold weather walking
around barefoot on a sandbar. So I just sort of
pushed that off to the side. I really didn't think
much about that. But as time went on, Uh, I
bought me some laying along the dan rubber, and I
started letting people come fish. And then they't tell me
stuff that happened at night. They had rocks and sticks
and stuff like that thrown at them and uh, and
I'd look at my son, I said, you know, I
thought they were uh they were going down that night catfishing.
I looked at my son, they coming down here getting drunk.
We were we were laughing, and but uh, I just
blowed that off.
Speaker 3: And uh. Then I had this.
Speaker 2: Other guy he uh, he come up to me. He said,
you mind if I go down there fishing at night.
And I said, no, I don't care if you go fishing.
Speaker 3: Just just be careful and.
Speaker 2: Gotten the stuff we had, just pick it up and
tell you where you when you go. I don't I
don't care what you do. So uh it was about
two weeks later I seen him and he told me
that he was fishing he heard a woman screaming, and
uh he said, I actually thought it was a woman
getting murdered. And he uh, he said, I started going
to the sound of the screaming, but the screaming was
coming towards me, and then all of a sudden, back
in behind that screaming was more screaming, and then straight
across the river something was screaming.
Speaker 3: He said, I had a.
Speaker 2: Bad feeling come over me. I left the roding rills
and everything. I run and I didn't stop till I
got to the car, and I told my son about it,
and I said, dag on, what's going.
Speaker 3: On down there at night? You know?
Speaker 2: I I bought the land. I've hall daver used it myself,
you know, except for maybe I had some friends come down.
We went kayaking, and other than that, that was about it.
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 2: I had some other people come and they said they
heard something they never heard before, and it caused the
grandson to start crying and they left. But and then
that led up to my that particular time, Dad led
up to my sight and because I was hunting across
the creek up there and I was having all kinds
of stuff going on with me. Uh, I know that
I had shot Setle dead and I found whether bled
out and they were gone something something. I thought somebody
had stole them on. But my son told me, said, Daddy,
where is you there?
Speaker 3: They don'et bled it.
Speaker 2: Out right here, And I said, well, where are they?
They're gone? And I blowed that off of somebody standing
on them. And but I didn't know at the time,
what you know, what it could have been. I just
bloated off on people, you know, just pushed it off
on people doing it.
Speaker 3: So but.
Speaker 2: Uh, as time went on, I moved from that area
and I moved up on the Smith River. It was
that's all. It comes out of the mountains and flows
to the dam right here where I live. Uh, about
maybe five miles along the river above where my land
used to be. But anyway, I where I had moved to,
I didn't have no neighbors none, and uh town was
two miles away.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: I think my nearest neighbor was maybe a mile and
my front yard was a river. And across from it
there was one hundred acre park that didn't nobody go on,
and the guide owned it. Uh. I talked with him
one day and and.
Speaker 3: I asked him if I could go walking over there,
you know.
Speaker 2: When hunting says and what And then he said, well, Pete,
don't nobody hunt over here. And if you go walking,
if you see anybody, you know you look after you
over here more than I am. And if you see
anybody you don't think needs to be over here or
they tearing up something, run them off. And I said,
well I will, so uh. They gave me a play
to go walk and take my dog out with me too.
Speaker 3: And but.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I didn't have no neighbors. Maybe the
first two years I lived there, one nothing significance, you know.
It happened, but I mumble. It was back in maybe
two thousand and eight. I got off of work early
one night, and if we worked a lot over time,
we weren't doing nothing. We could take overtime reduction. We
need to do something next day, you know, we could
leave work early. So I took some overtime reduction that night,
and I left the plane at three o'clock in the morning,
and it took me an hour to get.
Speaker 3: The drive. Took me by an hour, you know, to
get back home.
Speaker 2: So I come home that morning. I got home exactly
four o'clock in the morning, parked the call, got out.
Like I said, there's nobody around me. And when I
shut the door, right up above the house there there
was an old farm road that went in or a
logging road where they'd done some timbering. And there but
up on that road there, and this is four o'clock
in the morning, it was something. It was like a
hol scream. Started out as a great, big, real loud,
high and then it went into a scream, and I said,
what in the world was at And I just froze
because I'd never heard nothing like that. Well, I was
funding to get my keys, and I finally got in
the house. I told my wife about it, and she said,
you're crazy. You know, she's just messing. When we said
you didn't end, I said, well, you all been out there.
So you know, as time went on, it's like other
little things started happening.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: I got to notice and stuff, you know, Like I
had like one really you know, significant stuff, you know,
but I used it to work with. Uh, I'll split
wood at the back of the house. And I had
some wedges get stole, just this little stuff, you know,
you just couldn't put your finger on it. How how
it got missing? But it's just little stuff. And I
thought somebody's coming up here at night getting this stuff.
But I remember right after that my wife had this.
I believe it was her first encounter. She went out
that night. It was about it might have been eleven
o'clock at night. She let the little dog out, and
when she got as you come out in front of
my house, it was like a great big cement patio
and we'd sit down in the summertime, and around the
corner there was a great big deck on the house.
But that was deck went around my house three quarters
of the house all the way around, and we set
up on a bluff looking down at the river. But
up on top of that bluff the driveway went down
and she looked down at the bottom of the driveway way.
She come back in said, what's got red eyes? And
I was, I was yanking a chain. I said, well,
it was a drunk and she she said, shut up,
that wasn't no drunk. Something red eyes down there. So
I go out and look around. I don't see nothing,
but uh, you know, there's this like little stuff and
then she started in, ah, white stuff.
Speaker 3: Across the street.
Speaker 2: You know. Uh she said it sounded like a dog,
but it was it is like somebody mimicking the like
or hurt puppy or something. And uh, never did see it.
But I remember my son he was still living now
with men. He went out on the deck. He said
when he walked out on the deck every one day
was off the yard. I really didn't have no yard.
It wasn't much of a yard anyway. And he said
it was something off to the side down on top
of that bluff where we were at, and it run
off that bank, and he said, whatever it was, it
was watching us, and it was big. Well, we walked
over there and looked, and it was a well worn
path coming up from the river up that bluff to
the top where my house was at, off to the
side there and these we were there. There was a
great big poplar tree and had these vines growing up.
And where the poplar tree was you could we had
these great big bay wonders and you could look to
the house their. Well, my son said, Daddy, look Youanna said,
all the all the vines that wore off down here,
and now father still growing like something that ripped those
vines off or wore them off.
Speaker 3: Stand now.
Speaker 2: But I said, that's strange. It's like something stand down
and pulling them vines off. But I remember, uh, my son,
he was doing some trapping up the river there and
he uh put a lag he was trapping orders. He
found this auto slide and he put a lag bolt
in it. And he didn't even put this off. This
h I'm not a trapper, but it's the thing you
drive in the ground and then holds a trap too.
Speaker 3: And he said, that that was right in the middle
of the trap.
Speaker 2: In that one thing was right in the middle of
the utter slide, had it covered up, and then he
had the lag boat chained to that too in the tree.
This was a ten inch lag boat screwed all the
way in. It was about about two or three days
later he said, Dad, come in, I'm gonna show you something.
So we walked up and rubbered maybe half a mile
where he was trapping, and the lag boat, everything was
jumped up out of the ground, out of the tree.
The trap was gone. He said, Dad, I said, do
you think a bear got in the trap, because that's
the only thing I think of, n And he said, Dad,
this was yanked out of the tree, now the ground.
And I'm going, yeah, you you right, I said, whatever,
that was pretty dag on big the yank cat out
out of the ground, now the tree. But you know,
not all all things up there didn't happened, you know,
at once. It was like little things like down down
on the damn rivers, just like little things that all
led up to one thing. And and it was over
time period too. It might not have been it might
have been weeks months. Maybe something would happen and then
I remember my son coming back to me.
Speaker 3: It said, come here, I got to show you something else.
Speaker 2: So we go up the river there and there was
this great big gum tree and it was sort of
being out of this This was a steep bluff too.
Speaker 3: I mean, I just.
Speaker 2: Can't some places almost straight down. But right here where
it took me, it was like a gum tree sort
of grown out.
Speaker 3: And up.
Speaker 2: But nine foot to the ground. Claw marks on that tree.
It was wore out whatever whatever was doing it. I
told my son, I said, that's pretty strange. Then I
got to notice them all around us. The trees were dead.
It's like that one aa all all the trees were
just dead, rotted dead, just I don't know, strange. And
I remember going up the river there one day and
it was this tree had fell down next to the river,
but it fell back away from the river. Well, I
was as I was coming back, I noticed there were
I thought there were tree limbs that it broke off
a tree when it fell, laying up against.
Speaker 3: That blog of the tree.
Speaker 2: So as I go by and look at it, they
were laid up against it, and I said, well, maybe
they washed in. Then I got to thinking when that's
on the down stream side of the tree. Couldn't couldn't,
couldn't wash in there, you know. So I go around
these these limbs were laid up against that tree, almost
a little like a little shelter or something.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: You you really have to know what you were looking
at and sort of catch it. But that caught my eye.
And then at night you would hear tree knocking up
and down. I'd say, I tell them, the patio at night,
you would hear tree knocking. Uh, let's see what else.
I'd heard more vocalizations, tree knocking, Ah, just all kinds
of stuff. And my son, him and him, some of
his my youngest son, him and some of his baddies.
Speaker 3: They were go down and play in the park, you know.
Speaker 2: And I remember one time he was sort of late
getting home, and he told me that he dropped down.
There was a bridge right below the house, an went
across the rover and he said, when he dropped down
beside the bridge there that's another big bluff in there.
And he said when he got to the bottom of
the hill, he could hear something up in there walking
around where he had just come from. And I told him,
I said, you don't go back over there, and I
morena stay that late.
Speaker 3: By yourself, or if you.
Speaker 2: Go somewhere over there, let somebody know where you had.
But as time went on, like I said, you know,
I lived there fifteen years, and it was just so
much stuff that happened.
Speaker 3: And I remember.
Speaker 2: I was sitting down on the patio one night and
I heard somebody like they were beating on a tree
across the road upon this bluff, and I said, I
wont to who's over there this time of the night.
So I was sitting there listen to this, and I
have a there's a piece of lumber laying there, and
I hit to deck with it a couple of times,
and it got real quiet. Well, I was sitting now
you could hear something like I couldn't put my my
finger on it, but I could hear something, and it
sounded like it was shaking the tree, and I said,
what in the world is that? And then right down
below me where the bridge starts, it sounded like something
was going over the guard railing and rolling down that bluff,
and I'm going, what in the world is that? And
then all of a sudden it just got real, real quiet,
And then all of a sudden.
Speaker 4: I heard crack boom, and it had pushed whatever it was,
it pushed over a tree.
Speaker 2: I didn't know it then, but the next day I
walked up in there and looked and it was a
tree the size of a dinner plate that had been
pushed over. It didn't break the tree, it broke the
roots in the ground. That's what made the noise. And
Betty I left from up air that day.
Speaker 3: I got out of them.
Speaker 2: But like I said, as time went on, you know
stuff stuff, little stuff, you know, little stuff, little things.
And I remember my wife had went to work, she
worked at the nursing home.
Speaker 3: She went to work at night.
Speaker 2: My son took the dog out, and son come back, said, Daddy,
the dog's gone. But the dog always went out. As
soon as he believed yourself. He come right back to
the house and it had been gone about ten minutes.
He said, Dad, the dog's gone. I don't know where
it's at. It's gone, but we never I called it.
Stayed up most of the night calling it, and went
out the next day and looked for it. Didn't even
find a trace of it. It was gone. Whatever guy
that was in the yard on my property and knew
that it had come out. We let it out every night.
But like I said, I'd heard other things. But we
lived there about fifteen years. Then the state came in.
I had to rebuild that bridge, and they claimed imminent
domain and we had to leave. So uh, we started
looking for houses. And I remember the deck went around
the house and it was it was in October, and
I fixed breakfast that morning for me and my wife.
Everybody was gone and we went out on the deck,
was gonna eat. I took I cooked breakfast, walked around
the deck. She was getting ready come. The sun had
just come up. It ain't been that long. But that
was one good thing about that place. We had a
lot of good seeing me uh. And then uh there
was I was sitting now waiting for her to come out.
And up on that bluff where the tree it got
pushed over, I heard a whistle like a y'all, just
like just like like like like me and you wi
was just a quick whistle. And then straight across the
river there was another whistle right down below me across
the river. And I'd heard about that, you know, at
the time, And now I heard these things whistle, and
I said, well, i'll be dagon. But right after we moved, Uh,
it might have been where I'm at here now. It
might have been two years after removed. My wife come
up to me one day and said, I wasn't gonna
tell you because I know it would have probably got
you upset and everything.
Speaker 3: But she was out by herself one day at the
house and.
Speaker 2: I bought her this sow swing treated lumba swing, and
I put it out down on the deck where she
could come out, you know, during the spring of summer,
set out there, and like I said, we were in
the woods and fields and revels and this beautiful scenery.
But right across the road there was a service road
that went up into that old park, and it had
a bluff up anna in a hollow, and that had
hollow had rode a.
Speaker 3: Dendrum all in it.
Speaker 2: But she said she was sitting now and it come
down to the edge of that service road, and she
said she was sitting there swinging. When she swung back
ch out and looked over. She said, a man standing
now watching him, and need to mind you, there's nobody
that really goes over there. And she said she didn't
see nobody go in that morning, and mind you, she's
there by herself. And she said she was keeping an
eye on him. She said she swung back again and
it was crouched down, and she said, she told me,
She said, I at first I thought, what's she doing
with a scuba diving outfit on? And then she swung
back again and she could see that wasn't no scuba
diving outfit. It was half that she was looking at. Well,
she got up and running inside, locked all the doors,
went up to my son's room, was looking out. She
didn't see it no more, but she lo all the
doors at the house.
Speaker 3: And uh.
Speaker 2: But she finally told me. But I told her, if
you ever have anything like that happened again, you tell me.
Speaker 3: But like after.
Speaker 2: That, we moved, and like I said, we moved and
now I'm in a different place now.
Speaker 3: And but you know, as you.
Speaker 2: Delve into this stuff a little bit, sometimes you just
sit back and listen. You really don't have to say nothing.
I remember I was out at this outdoors store one
day next town over, about fourteen miles from here, Madison,
North Carolina. I'll just tell you what it is. It
was a sporting good store there. It may need sold
fish and equipment, and I went up had to get
some lowis to go trap fishing. And I was just
standing there and this guy was talking and the guy
was waiting on me. He told that guy, I said,
you crazy. He said, wytn't you just shut up?
Speaker 3: You crazy?
Speaker 2: And I heard him say something about bigfoot, and I
really didn't didn't. I just heard bigfoot. So I got
my stuff. That guy went on outside. I think he
was doing some work there too, because when I went outside,
he was getting some tools out and I said, so,
can I talk to you for a minute? He said yeah.
I said, what was you off? I heard you say
something about bigfoot? And I said, if you ever seen one?
He said, oh yeah, he said years ago, me and
a friend of mine, we were up on the Mail River.
That's another remote part of this county. Uh may I
just his none but woods, bottom lands, forests, uh bluffs,
just little uh all the little tributaries coming into those
river Mayo River. But he said where he was at.
He was down below a place called England's Own Mill.
And I knew where he was talking about, but I
didn't know exactly where he was at. I never did
ask him, but I knew about where he was at.
He said, him and his buddy had to drive in
to this place to go fishing, and they they set
up camp. They were there like he said, it was
about two o'clock in the morning. They had a fire
going and they were fishing talking and his buddy tapped
him on the shoulder and he said, look over across
the river. Some man stand there. He said, He looked over.
He said, sure enough, he said, was a man. He
said where the fire I was lit up? It was
lighting everything up that glowed around you. And he said, oh, ware,
you can say it. Uh, he said, man, he was
like a man standing there. And he said, all of
a sudden the man come down that bank was crossing
the river toward gym and he said, about halfway across
the river, he said, look, if this is a joke,
it's then damn gone to far well.
Speaker 3: He picked up his.
Speaker 2: Gun and he said, all of a sudden, he said,
you can see red. This thing had red eyes. And
he said, I shot it three times. He said, I
shot it. He said, this thing let out a scream.
We run, got in the truck. We left everything, got
in the truck and run.
Speaker 3: And got out of there.
Speaker 2: He said, we come back about three days later. He
said everything was toe up, tent rods and rills. He said,
everything was toe up. But he said they never did
go back to that place no more. They savage what
they could and they never did go back. But he
also told me that the next county, over States County,
there was a lot of sightings there. Said he knew
a preacher had seen one. Uh, he knew uh other
people that had seen him.
Speaker 3: Ah.
Speaker 2: I talked to a guy his father used to be
chief police over in that area, somewhere one of those towns,
and he said, his father on some land up on
it was a creek called Snow Creek, and they were
he go up at boat hunting and he said he
was out in the stand one day and he said,
something come down. He's right, son, had donet gone down,
but it was still light. He said, this thing, whatever,
whoever he thought it was so body at first, he said,
he come down in behind him, walked off to the
side of him, to the left, and he looked.
Speaker 3: He said, I wanted no body.
Speaker 2: He said, whatever this was, it was covered in hair
and walking upright. He said, it walked down. He said
it across the creek, went up the creek and over
in front of him was it was a rock overhang.
Said he got up under that rock overhang, crashed down,
was watching him, and he said he got the heck
out of that. And I've talked to another boy and
he was talking about some sightings back in that area
on the Stokes rocking Ham. Came a line that they
had seen one guy hunting had seen a male and
a female bigfoot is what he.
Speaker 3: Said, you know.
Speaker 2: And in this particular person he lived, he lived, I
would say, and he lived in between Madison and Stanbule,
North Carolina. He said it lived off a road called
Janet Road. And he said it and uh, his kids
rode the bus every morning. They had fixed them a
little place the bus had to come down and now
and turn around to pick his kids up. So uh,
this little born little girl, that's why they caught the
bus every day. And he said, ah the uh that
afternoon when he got home, his little girl said, Daddy,
he said, was a man standing down that day up
under the tree watching us?
Speaker 3: He said what.
Speaker 2: He said, Yeah, it was a man. He was dressed
up in black. He was standing there watching us while
we were waiting on the bus us and he said,
I want you to come with me and show me
where it was at. So him and the little girl
and his son went down down and he said where
was he standing?
Speaker 3: Said?
Speaker 2: Right up on that tree lamb right there. And he
looked it was about the limb was probably about eight
foot off of the ground. And she said he was
just standing right just barely up under it. And he
said after that he never did let his kids ride
the bus anymore. He took him to school.
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 2: He said he knew a person going to work one
morning in that area said to sing one cross the
road and as he got up where it was at,
it was laying in the ditch, balled up. I guess
where he couldn't see it just singing, balled itself up
and tried to eye itself laying in the ditch alongside
the road. But uh, I had a I had a friend.
It was a game warden and h I'm not gonna
say no names or anything, but he h I asked
him one time, I said what I said? You you
I know him real good, and uh, I just cracked
on him. I said, what do you think about bigfoot?
I said, if you ever had any experiences with that
in your life. And he told me, I mean, he
didn't waste no time. You know. It's even like he
started talking and he's gonna shut me up, or he's
gonna tell me something.
Speaker 3: So he started talking. He said.
Speaker 2: He was a.
Speaker 3: Game warden te what Mage.
Speaker 2: County, and he said that I got a call one
day to uh go this guy's house. Something was killing
his dogs. Well he went there and uh he said,
back up and now where I went, and said, you
wouldn't haunt anybody around you. This this navel might have
been four miles away, but he said. Guy said come
on and show you something, and said he went down
the hill there and there's this saw right a while
and he said it was literally thrown in half. And
the guy said that ain't nothing. And back up in
there behind his house about a quarter mile whales boulders.
They climbed up on them boulders, and that were pieces
of meat drying on the rock like jerky. And he
said that didn't hit me. He said, you know, wondering
if you know it, He said, one registering with me
what was going on here? So he said, well that
ain't nothing. Come on, I want to show you something else.
So they went in behind them boulders down the hill
and now we're eight inches circumference trees that were twisted
up in knots broke and twisted and put in knots now.
He said, that got my attention, and I said, if
you ever had any other experiences, and he told me.
He said, one time I was working this illegal duck
blind and this was in Rockenham County where I lived,
and it was a swampy area, and they were going
to go in there and catch these people, catch them
coming in there. He said it was about five o'clock
in the morning. They were going in there. As they
were waiting to where these people were hunting, had this
illegal duck blind. He said, all of a sudden, you
can hear limb snapping, and then all of a sudden,
it's like hall scream and they just froze. And he
said the only thing come to mine was a monster.
And he said we got out of there. We went
out back to back with our guns drawn. And he
told me of another incident in Stoke. Standing with this
guy's dogs or cows or something got loose, and the guy,
he said, I knew this guy.
Speaker 3: And he said, he wasn't scared of nothing. This guy
right here, he was.
Speaker 2: Just a big old farm been farming all his life,
you know, down to earth, good people. She was out
looking for the cow. Said he come around the curve
in the dirt road, knew where his farm was, and
one of these things is standing out in the middle
of the road, ah with red eyes looking at him,
and said he just sat down, and this thing finally
went on off in the woods. He got out of
there when the game one told me, he said, after that,
he said, I don't want it. He asked him, said
if you haven't seen anything else, he said, I don't
go over no more. I don't even go on the
land anymore. Who scared to go on his own land?
And he now I'm getting away from Bigfoot here. He
they had a call, we're going down a different rabbit hole.
Now had a call to go to this river bottom.
That was another river bottom. I used to down their
heads in and it was on down below the river
bottom where I found the dead dogs and uncle meat.
But he said that, uh, these people called them and
they'd seen they were seeing lights over that bottom at night,
and they thought, well, you know it was somebody going
to now spotlighting at night. So they he got two
other game wardens and they uh they went over now.
Two of them got over the bottom where they were
seeing the possible spotlight and going on and there was
an old farm house air and uh uh and a
barn where the get the game more than I was
talking to about all this stuff. He went across the
river and sit on the opposite side of the river,
the Virginia side of the river.
Speaker 3: Now, he said.
Speaker 2: By an hour later he got a call from the
other two said get over here right now. You got
to get over here right now. So he thought that
they had called him and had them arrest and wanted
me to come over and help. Say, I went flying
over across the river. When I got there, they were outside.
The blazer said they were they were told up.
Speaker 3: Being out of shape. So he.
Speaker 2: Said that they told him that this light come down
out of sky is about forty foot in circumforts, like
a battle of light hovered right over them, a light
come down on them. One of them got out and
stuck his hand in the light and said that thing
just shot right back up where it comes from, disappeared,
and they would see orbs too, and that I've heard
other people talking about seeing obs and strange lights in
that rubble bottom too. But I'm trying to you know,
I had all this stuff laid out to talk, but
that was from him. And then also I had a deputy,
the sheriff. Deputy told me that up off the Mayo River,
a guy was going one of that patrol me and
was going through there late at night and he's seen
one stand on side of the road. Now this road
is remote from western part of the county and he's
seen this thing stand on the side of the road.
Said it was huge, covered in half, and you know,
they always ragged in my bott and all this, but
said he was a good person. But the deputy also
told me they have calls every now and then people
here vocalizations that they stuff I never heard before up
in that night. And let's see. Trying to think of
some more stuff here. But uh, Miguel, if you've got
any questions you want want me to.
Speaker 1: Like to ask me, this activity sounds all too familiar,
and it's very similar to things that I experienced here
in Missouri. Do you feel like there's just sasquatch all
up and down those rivers or do you feel like
the sasquatch possibly followed you from place to place? As
people have mentioned, they can mark or tag you and
kind of imprint on you. And when they pick up
on your smell or your energy, they they choose to
interact with you. What do you think.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know, Miguel.
Speaker 2: I I'm not a researcher, but I know I've seen
these things. My wife has seen them, sons seeing them.
All my kids had experiences there. They heard them. Uh,
tree knocks, house frem there. I mean, I can just
go on and on and on and but not a sighting.
I was gonna you know, I really wanted to.
Speaker 3: Tell you this one. This was a good one.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't then North Carolina. That was across the
line in Virginia. Uh, my son had a friend and
they used to go up to his uncle's He lived
up in the mountains, had a big cattle farm, and
I used to go up a hunting well. Michael was
telling me that his buddy told him that his uncle
that owned that place where they went hunting.
Speaker 3: H He he.
Speaker 2: Told Michael's friend that he went up there one morning
there hunting. He said it was about He said it
was in the fall October. Said he rode the full
wheel up to the top of the mountain. This guy
had like a three hundred acre cattle farm up on
the Blue Ridge Mountains and right here the Blue Ridge Parkway.
And said that he went up, drove his foe wheel up,
got blow the oat tree and sat down and said
it riddy cold that morning, sort of cool. Said he
got warm. And he said he was sitting there and
he was looking off down the hill. Said he kept
noticing something light up in this tree. And he said
he hunted a little bit more him pay much mind
what he was looking at, and said he decided he
was going to go on home. Hen he went and
saying nothing, and said that I'm gonna go down there
and see what that was up in that tree.
Speaker 3: So he got on his.
Speaker 2: Forewhay of the road down there where when he looks
up in that tree, he said, about twenty five thirty
feet up in that tree, there's a day draped over
a limb. Yeah, that's pretty wild right there.
Speaker 1: Ain't get sure is And when you found the meat
up in the tree, was it like an entire cow
or just a part of the cow.
Speaker 2: No, it was below the tree. It was sitting on
the ground. It's like it's like you'd walked up on them.
Just a piece of big hunk of meat. It was
just meat. And it was right at the base of
that tree. But it was in that thicket. And also
another thing I had seen and I this, this really
caught me too. Where I lived on the river, I
would go walking every day. I take my chocolate lab
with me, and there was was this deer.
Speaker 3: It was a buck.
Speaker 2: It was a full corner and it was laying right
on the edge of the river. And I thought it.
Speaker 3: Was both season.
Speaker 2: I thought somebody had shot it.
Speaker 3: And with a bout.
Speaker 2: And it run and they never found it, couldn't track
it well. Anyway, I walked over there to it. I
was looking at it, wanted to drop of blood on it.
Its neck was broken for two weeks. And need to say,
it was an eighty degree weather. The buzzets W wasn't
touch it. They were sitting up on limbs looking at
it and W wasn't touch it. Now, how strange is that?
And after two weeks the deer was gone.
Speaker 3: It was gone.
Speaker 2: It wasn't drug. It was picked up. It was gone, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's terrifying. So these Sasquatch were killing dogs, killing cattle,
killing deer, and that's pretty spooky. I feel like they
were killing the dogs because the dogs were giving away
their presence or do you feel like they were just
killing to kill?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I know the guy across the river where I had
my sight. I finally talked to this guy, got him
dope what it was. I was a member of this
club is called the Natchulis Club, and we were sort
of historical thing too. We've done heights in the county
and we go to different places. And I went and
asked this guy was old Plantation Farm and it's where
one of the biggest Indian villages in North Carolina was
called Lowes Saw Town. That was the name of the
Indian sorrow They were Woodland Sue. But anyway, I went
and talked to him and asked him if we could
the club could come over and do a welcome, a
little walk, a historical thing. And I told him, I said,
if you want to, you can. You can lead the
trip and show people. He said, well, Pete, the guys
that own the land told me they didn't want nobody
in there. I guess they afraid somebody get hurt and
want to sew them. I said, I understand, I can't,
I can't blame you, but I would I would like.
I said, I don't think it's nobody in the club
that will try to do that, but I understand. But
and then I said, before I go, I want to
ask you something. I said, if you ever seen the
strange animals over here? He said, oh, yeah, he said.
My two grandsons walked up up on the side squatch.
One of them was five foot from it when he
walked up on it late in afternoon.
Speaker 3: He said, he peeling his breeches.
Speaker 2: He said, the thing done its arm some type of way,
like it crossed its arms and made like a grunt,
and said they run. And I asked him, I said,
you have ever seen the strange lights over here? He said, oh,
it's a given. I see them all the time. He said,
I see a bluish white one. I said, yep, that's
the one I seen. That was years ago before you
were in here, and I used to come down here
catfishing at night. I said.
Speaker 3: He said, I see a white.
Speaker 2: One, a green one, and a red one.
Speaker 3: He said, that's a given, he said.
Speaker 2: The guy that owned the property down here below me,
he said he was petrified at this place.
Speaker 3: He said, you didn't catch him down.
Speaker 2: Here after door, And if he come down here to
feed the cows, he got out of here before daw
or he come in the morning. He didn't like. He
didn't like coming down here by hisself. He was petrified
of that place. And in me, I don't know what
he's seen. He wouldn't tell nobody. He didn't even he
wouldn't tell nobody, But I have a feeling I know
what he's seen. But they say they hear stuff over
there waiting at night, you know, vocalizations. Ah, it's an
old plantation farm, they said. And here's another thing, sort
of getting out of the Bigfoot thing. But he said,
I see a man in gray over here all the time,
and they've got to see who it is. And he's
not over there. They'll see him, but when they go
and where he's at, you can't get out of the field.
Or when it got who's gone.
Speaker 1: Sorry, Yeah, I feel like those experiences you're not getting
away from the Bigfoot topic. It all sounds like Bigfoot activity,
even the strange lights, the orbs are definitely associated with
the Bigfoot activity. Whether it's just some unknown behavior that
there they display and possess, or something supernatural, it's certainly
tied in with the Sasquatch activity. And I'm talking about
from the perspective of my personal experiences and not just
what I've heard off the internet. I've had for sure
Bigfoot activity, and within an hour of that activity, I
see these orbs floating through the woods. Definitely not a
firefly or a drone flying through the woods, just something
moving with a purpose that seems intelligent.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now I had another experience with orbs I just years ago.
I used to do a lot of rock climbing when
I got out of service, A.
Speaker 3: Bunch of us to go with.
Speaker 2: North Carolina's full of climbing spots, but it was one
place I loved to go with Stone Mountain, North Carolina.
H Up. Now it's set right off the parkway there
near Dalton Park. But we were camped out. We went
up to Dalton the campground and Stone Mountain State Park
was full. So me and my family, a couple of
guys I was going to climb with, we went up
and camp down. We were we were cooking had a
fire going, and I told them I was going to
walk out in the woods and you know, get some ah,
just lose stuff laying on the ground, you know, kendon
stuff like that. I'd be back in a minute. So
when I walked out down in the woods, I was
picking up stuff and I looked over to my left
and that was like twenty five balls of light about
the size of a golf ball, and they were just
all going around one another, green lights. And I was
just amazed by that. I don't know what it was,
but I was amazed. I just sat down and watched
it till the lights this disappeared. What that was, I
have no idea. And I have a cherokey friend and
him is real good friends and we talked every nine
and then, and I asked him about these olds. I said,
y'all got a lot of legends and it's.
Speaker 3: He said, what did you say?
Speaker 2: I told him about these olds, and he looked at
me real funny, and he said, oh, oh, you got
the little people down there too, you don't you?
Speaker 3: I said to little people?
Speaker 2: He said, yeah, that's the lights they can that's what
That's one of the legends. And then there was another
place up near Cherokee, maybe forty miles up the Blue
Ridge Parkway, maybe thirty twenty thirty miles place called Devil's Courthouse.
I don't know if you're familiar with that, but it's
it's one of the rock formations that sits along the parkway.
We used to go as one of the first places
I was started climbing. And then the rock is called
the Devil's Courthouse. Well, I looked up the legend one night,
and this is Steepton, Cherokee. Lord too, the slant eyed
giant Judah Cooola danced in the in a cave that
the devil dwelt in. He would dance for him, the
slant eyed giant.
Speaker 3: And uh, and that.
Speaker 2: Place is steeped in bigfoot lower people see strange stuff,
likes h all kinds of stuff. But and then, uh,
then you had the legend of Boujum. He was this
girl would go up in the mountains and take a
bath and stream and Boujiam would come down and hide
the butchers and watch her. And they got married, but
her mother didn't like him and she left. And every
now and then he'd come around. He'd hoot four and
they'd have a hoot in any they called back and
forth to one another. And that's as some of the
low an Appolachia. That's pretty wild too, ain't it. Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is for sure. I'm not sure if that's
the area that the Native Americans would talk about avoiding
when they travel through the mountains. And it kind of
sounds like it would be from the activity that you described.
And I can see how the orbs might be connected
with the little people, but I also believe it's connected
with the Sasquatch. Do you think there's any chance that
the properties that you've experienced activity on the Smith and
Dan River and all the creeks. Do you feel like
maybe there are giant skeletons buried there or something supernatural happening,
or do you think it's just purely physical, undiscovered primates
living on the land. What are your thoughts about that?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, what, do you call that the the
weird factory?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Whatever, you won't call it. I call it the weird factor.
But anyway, then you got the scientific theories and all that,
and Native Americans have been seeing them since they were
on the continent on back thirteen thousand years ago. So,
and then you've got I think it's something special. I
think that could be giants buried here. Oh, I know
whether there's a mound on the Mayo Robert. Some say
it's a mound, some say it ain't. But I'll send
you a picture of it and give you. And it's
vinted site all the way around this thing. Now, if
it's a mound there and it's vited site all the
way around it, shot, I'll be a mound. I mean,
be wanting to bury a man. It was probably something ceremonial.
But as far as giants being found, now I know
now I've been told.
Speaker 3: Now this was leaked to me.
Speaker 2: I don't. This is just what you fellow told me.
Somewhere in Franking County, Virginia, so county up from me,
a couple counties up from me where I live in Virginia,
on some farm, they have found standing stones and they're
keeping this quiet from more don's stand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really interesting. I did some research while while
you're talking, and it says reports of giant skeletons along
the Dan River, which flows through Virginia and North Carolina,
are rooted in nineteenth century accounts of unusual findings in
Native American mounds, rather than verified modern archaeological evidence. These
claims typically describe skeletons measuring seven to ten feet tall,
which are generally regarded as hoaxes or misinterpretations of animal
or especially large human remains. But it does sound like
people have found skeletons on the Dan River.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I had a friend Tim, He loved
to hunt their heads.
Speaker 3: And he told me he knew a lot of people
here in the county.
Speaker 2: He was he was well liked, and you know he
rubbed shoulders were the big guys, you know.
Speaker 3: And there was this fall the farm where I had
my sight.
Speaker 2: Back in seventy two when Camille, one of those hurricanes
come through and it just dun't tons of rain and
it washed that bottom out and now and the upper
end of it, and it was through a visted site.
Well they didn't know it at the time. They found
like twenty three skeletons. Now, that could be what maybe
they're talking about. Maybe there was some remains found out
that were giant, you know, had giant features to women.
But he said, it's like twenty three skeletons, you know,
washed out down. Now he said, well, they brought the
law enforcement in they couldn't identify them. Well, they called
in the state, state bought the archeologists and said this
was a vited site and it dated to light. I think,
if I'm not mistaken, loving twelve hundred AD, I've read
report on it, but they didn't talk about the remains. Now,
that could be what you're talking about right there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I.
Speaker 2: Have no out. When the Spanish come through here, oh
they talked about giants.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And all the areas that have giant skeletons
that have been found in the past are all areas
that people experience bigfoot activity today. And the Sasquatch they're giants.
And it's the same reports that I've read from people
that have found the giant skeletons, like it was seven
foot tall, nine foot tall, ten foot tall. And then
the people today that are encountering the Sasquatch are giving
the same descriptions and they say the giants were supernatural beings.
And we're seeing the same thing today with the Sasquatch,
like people are just seeing these orbs or there's something
throwing rocks and limbs at them and they couldn't see
anything like, it's almost like it was invisible, which is strange.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that is strange. You know you were we're
talking about the giants here. I have no doubt you know,
uh those all kinds of legends about giants if you
uh read some of the archae logue, you know, like
I'm West Virginia. While of those mounds had giants in them,
it was the Adena culture. And uh, and suppose that
these people were European. And where I told you up
two counties up front, they they're finding standing stones. Now
they in a county over from there they found a
metal working working, uh site, like a what you call it.
They smelted metal there, and it's dating back to nine
hundred day D. Now who were those people? Indians didn't
make metal. They might have they might have messed with
copper up around the the Great Lights region, and they
really didn't mess with the matters that we got here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, that's just.
Speaker 2: That's just from what I read. But you know, nine
hundred a D. You know that's pretty good ways on
bikea you know, who could I have been heard of
Europeans vikings people?
Speaker 1: Yeah, people speculate that the giants created the Pyramids, Stonehenge,
and many other archaeological finds that have been discovered and
that they just don't have an answer to, like who
could have built them? It must have been an intelligent race,
and it's obvious, like the it's all written on the wall,
like the evidence that there was an advanced civilization living here,
and people have found giant arrowheads, huge tracks, and just
things that, like you said, Native Americans couldn't have built
on their own. And I like how you said earlier
that you had a bunch of little things taking place
that you just couldn't put your finger on that all
led up to something huge and significant. And that's what
I experienced in my property too. It was just a
bunch of things that I wrote off, but I knew
that they weren't right, like something was off, and something
in my gut was telling me the things I was
finding just weren't adding up until the day that I
seen the sasquatch just stand up and walk off, and
it all clicked.
Speaker 2: Yep. When when something don't look right, when something don't
feel right, or something don't smell right, it ain't right,
and something you getting ready to experience something. But let's
see there was trying to think there was another site.
This guy told me about experience. Him and his brothers
went to this lake in this county. It's a regional
city lake. They were blow it at night. That's sort
of out there in the Boonies too. And he said
his brothers got drunk. He didn't drink any he said.
He said it was about twelve o'clock at night. They
were all passed out. He was sitting down, had a
fire going. He said, all of a sudden, limbs the
rocks started landing in the camp. He said, I never
did see what was doing it, but I was having
to dodge it all night. And he said the next morning,
my brothers got up and said I never did tell them,
but that's what went on, like small logs and limbs
and rocks all night long. And and I think too,
you go out here along these rebels at night and
you built a fire. And I've talked to a lot
of people when the catfish and they built a fire,
and that's when it started having these experiences. When you
build fire, they gonna come to it. It's like it's
like ringing the bell, They're gonna come.
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, I agree with that the dogs that
you found. What did the neck look like like? Was
it twisted like a twizzler or was it like bent back,
like in an awkward position.
Speaker 2: Just hanging off the side, you know, sort of bent back,
hanging off the side. And I'm going, damn, next broke
and and like whether dogs were laying the grass all
around it was just flattened like something real heavy had
been standing there. That's one thing I noticed. Yeah, but
I've talked I can't really remember all the stuff, but
trying to think here, I've had all kinds of people
coming about hunting experiences at night, people fishing stuff, running
down through the woods at them, screaming, uh, getting in
between them and their friends, you know, stuff like that. Ah,
what do you call that? Just messing with them, intimidation stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're getting really territorial.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: But they had a fire going. They were fishing at night.
And I heard about two guys they've been in Afghanistan
and they were in the Seals and special forces and
stuff like that, and they counted something and both of
them come out back to back to at night with guns,
you know, and uh, people seeing him standing old and
I know a boy he about five miles from where
I'm sitting there right here, right now. Uh, those are
as you go on up above me, up here towards
the Virginia Line as a road that cuts off and
goes back over towards the Mayo rob A guy was
going through there with his wife one night. He told me, said,
they've seen one standing on the side of the road,
and uh, you know, another guy said, he's, you know,
a preacher of the same one. He said it was
sitting in the middle of the road up now somewhere.
So I think I've been sitting in the woods hunting
and the woods just go dead. Have you ever experienced that? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: I'm sitting down and I staying birds, birds are chirping,
squirrels all around me, got three or four d out
there in front of me. Uh, insects just uh, all
kinds of animals around me. Now, all of a sudden,
everything just disappears, the insects, the birds, the deer, squirrels, everything.
It's just like it's just like it's just like something
just sucked all the sounds out of the out of
the forest. It's just dead. And you feel like you
got layers of beam eyeballs on you. Now, that's another
one of the weird, the weird things that you know,
if if you're not used to that, and that happens,
you are getting ready to have a sitan.
Speaker 3: I think now I didn't have a sight.
Speaker 2: Now, but but I think it's one of the things
that leads up. I call it the pyramid of a
Sightan Oh, something happens over here, and it just keeps
on going up in blocks, and then one day you're
gonna be in the right spot at the right time,
and then you're gonna have your sight. But there are
some people just walk right up on something, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's awesome. You've met a lot of people
who have seen these things, whether it was at the
sporting goods store or the game organ or friends and
other family members. And yeah, I can't imagine how you
felt when you and your son were down there by
the river bottom and the cane like picking sugarcane or
whatever it's called, and that one sasquatche, Yeah, the river cane,
and the sasquatch was just standing there watching you. Guys.
How long did that encounter last?
Speaker 2: It lasts about about thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: That's a long end.
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't feel threatened. Now my son
has been out of shape. He said, dang, he kept them. Dad.
Let's get out of here, I said, Sonday, it ain't
bothering us. I said, let's just get the river cane.
We'll get on out of here. It was a thirty
minute sight. And where it was standing, you could see it.
It's like, now, I know y'all got bottoms. I tell you, like,
you got a big bottom here, and right across be
another bottom. But in between it as a road of trees.
They call them hedgerows or or property lines or tree
lines and all that.
Speaker 3: But he was standing in between.
Speaker 2: Some sycamores, and he was standing above some saplings, and
he was one hundred and fifty yards away. Now I
could see his eyes and mouth. That's how big it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which one was the most significant?
Speaker 2: That one was probably I'm guessing that one was probably
maybe dying foot tall.
Speaker 1: Oh wow? Which encounter stands out the most?
Speaker 2: Oh? That one? I mean, I've seen them. I've seen
them before, but I didn't know what they were. I
thought they were bad. Yeah, but they do run on
all fours, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen them run on all four, isn't it
reminds you of like a black bear or a chimpanzee
moving through the forest. Once they stand up, you know
it wasn't a bear.
Speaker 2: I've never seen nothing. I've never seen a bath run
three hundred yards like I damn uh it put.
Speaker 3: The tracks start a shame.
Speaker 2: I mean you couldn't. I mean it wasn't no use
when that thing run up a hill, it wasn't no
used to run. You couldn't out running. Actually, I thought
that was my last day on the planet. Yeah, but
it beered off.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you think it was just trying to intimidate
you or do you think maybe it confused you?
Speaker 2: I do. I think it was a blood charge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think so too. And another part of
me makes it would.
Speaker 2: Have wanted to hurt you. If they'd have wanted to
hurt you, the big one we sing, he would have
hurt you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It wasn't no way you could a got away from him.
But when most of the time I would go down there,
when I first seen them they want all fours, I
thought they were baths. Felt like I had eyeballs on me.
And uh, now turn around, look and I'll say dog
gone as a bear, and they were like two hundred
fifty yards away.
Speaker 3: I'm going.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be bears, boy, But bears are gonna boat.
I'll tell you that right now. They'll boat. I walked
up on a sound three cubs. They bolted. They ain't
gonna stand down. Look at you. They gonna boat. Now,
if you getting there one of the cubs, it's gonna
be a different story. M I have a failure. But
those think whatever it was it was watching me bears
a boat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. And the bears that don't bolt,
they might walk up to you and they're acting really strange,
and they say, those types of bears there's like something
not right in their head and they could possibly eat you.
But these sasquatch, they showed intelligence the way they were
moving and hiding and then revealing themselves like it definitely
wasn't a bear. And if a bear does stand up
on two legs, it doesn't stand up for very long,
and it's really awkward when.
Speaker 2: It moves exactly right. They might stand up real quick,
like maybe to get a better view. Are you and
then they gonna come back down? Boat?
Speaker 3: But whatever this was it bolted.
Speaker 2: They bolted, and it was running on two legs cross
and it was running like a bad eye of Hayd's
on two legs across three hundred yards and up at
the upper end of that bottom you can see this
big tree with this big limb up on it, and
that thing run right up under it. And I went
up up and I'd say that limb was probably nine,
maybe ten eleven foot tall. So whatever this was, that
thing was out there and it's probably nine foot tall,
I'd say, yeah, yeah, but you could see it just
stand now, just clear's day. My bulls gone, Dad, let's
let's go. Let's go. Well, it ain't bottom us. We
ain't bothering him. Maybe he's just as curious as we are.
Speaker 3: I know, how sure?
Speaker 2: Am?
Speaker 1: Is that why you stayed? You were curious?
Speaker 2: Do?
Speaker 1: What is that why you stayed when the sasquatch was
watching you guys? Because you were curious?
Speaker 2: Oh heck yeah, I mean, you know, I h I
don't know. I didn't feel scared, and I'm not really scared.
I've been. I walked all out in the bottoms four
o'clock in the morning, going to my stand, fog up
to your showers. Oh oh, I don't know. I just
I've never been scared.
Speaker 3: I just don't. I just don't scare easy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I completely understand.
Speaker 2: There's one thing I'm scared of, but I ain't gonna
say that here. I just all the stuff going on
in the world, that's the main thing I'm scared of.
Speaker 3: But I'm not scared of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I say it all the time. I'm more scared
of people than I am a sasquatch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, boy, just watch, I'll tell everybody. I'll tell my
wife everybody I know. Where you have you go, watch
your surroundings. Look around before you get out of the car.
Watch your surroundings. Yeah, watch your surroundings. Don't care where
you are. You may everybody m m.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You can't trust people, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Now you've seen me in my olds.
Speaker 1: Too, Yeah, I have. There was an incident where I
got whistled at by them similar to what you described
or what your friend described when he was down there fishing,
and I went back about an hour later because I
couldn't get those whistles out of my head. I was like,
that was no bird. That was definitely like people. It
sounded like a like a farmer calling in his cattle,
like loud, sharp whistles. And when I went back, I
saw these two orange orbs about the size of like
a volleyball or a basketball, moving together through the woods
right at nighttime. There was no sound. They seemed intelligent.
Definitely not a firefly or drone, because drones are loud
and they can't move through the woods at nighttime. And
it was strange because I've already had activity there an
hour before that. And then later on, I would say
maybe three weeks after that, I saw the sasquatch stand
up and walk off into the woods, just like the
Patty film, and I kind of tied it all together.
I still didn't think the ords were connected to it,
because I didn't know what that was. Then I started
listening to bigfoot reports from other people and they started
mentioning these orbs, and I was like, wait a minute,
I was having bigfoot activity up there and I seen
those lights. It's connected to Sasquatch. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've talked with them.
Speaker 3: I'm number years ago.
Speaker 2: I had a buddy and one of his friends had
just got out of services, out riding around one night
drinking beer and right there where that bridge is at
on the Virginia North Carolina line. Boy, I told you
the game ones had that bottom staked out. Senor UFO.
Speaker 3: They pulled in.
Speaker 2: At that bridge and he got out to relieve hisself
and said when he turned around, looked at his buddies.
His buddy's eyes big around his fifty cent faces, and
he turned around. Look there was this bottle of light there,
and they just shot up in this tree and went
into light a bunch of little lights. Then they were gone,
so they got out of there. I think that's a phenomenon,
a real big phenomenon here on the Dan River, because
I've heard so many people, farmers, people fishing, hunting, ah
just out you know, pitting around airhead hunting stuff like that.
You know that's a that's a given up and down
this Dan River.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely connected in my opinion, from the information that
I've learned and the experiences that I've had, and I
definitely feel like it's not a coincidence. And the orbs
are a huge clue to the activity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you will you get out in these
remote bottoms around here, and you have, like I said,
the little things start happening to you, Uh, strange stuff.
You can't put your thing on. Watch out, watch out.
Oh yeah, but that, but that that guy told me
when his grandson walked right, he was five foot from it. See,
just like he took his arms out in front of him,
just crossed him real quick like at the so squat
and went like a little small grunt and they turned
and run, the youngest one peeding these breeches.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't blame him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll probably I don't know, I probably love it tated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I noticed the bulk of the activity
that you experience your friends and your family members and
people that you've met in the area is all centered
around hunting and fishing and the river bottoms. So they're
definitely territorial. They don't want you occupying their space, especially
for hours at a time or day in and day out,
and you're going after their food sources, whether it's deer
and fish, and it might be ticking them off.
Speaker 3: Well, I think too, if.
Speaker 2: If I relied on my steps to get a deer,
just say I was a sad squatch. I haven't got
no gun. I mean you got guns. When I hear
that gun go off. That's like ringing the dinner belle,
just watching and see which way he's going and when
you get there. But that one morning a deal got
stole from me. My son was going, Daddy, was your deer,
It's gone? I said, I know, But.
Speaker 3: It was almost I don't know.
Speaker 2: Never heard no calls, four wheelers. You didn't hear nobody talk.
It was this job. Real calm that morning, still uh, serene,
and it just just weird. But I think when you
shoot and they are around and they're watching you, they
gonna watch and see which way you going. It's like
ringing the dinner bell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, they're definitely waiting for you to make
a kill shot and they come in and steal the deer.
Speaker 2: I've known other hunters around here too, so that they've
had deal stolen. A matter of fact, I listened to
some guys have a conversation with the guy that owned
the archery store about that day of getting stolen, and
they would hear strange stuff. And that was that ribble
bottom above me where I had my sight. Oh yeah,
it's all I think his place is. Uh And now
all now listen, now this, now, this is what a
guy told me there was a farm on on the
UH going south along the Cascade Creek that's a big
tributary of the Damn and it's huge up and creek
bottoms and there ribble bottoms, and they were talking about
he was talking about he was out there cutting the uh,
the hay or something off of one of the fields,
and it was getting towards dark and he was just
sort of going like in a circle. He was getting
ready to stop. What he o some people, I said
it because he's gonna come back the next day and finished,
he said he was.
Speaker 3: Going down long field.
Speaker 2: When he turned, he looked back where he come from
and there was one sitting on the edge of the
field watching him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty wild too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly is. Yeah, we're getting towards the end.
I got another call here in about fifteen minutes. Can
you think of any other experiences that you'd like to
share anything that you forgot?
Speaker 2: My son, the guy and he works with up there
with the guy, seen one standing on the road about
five miles from here, down on the big fall up out,
maybe a couple of hundred acres. And when he was young,
his son, when he was young, he's seeing one up
out eating apple out of a tray or something something
of that effect. But other than that, that's that's my
life story with su squats. Like I said, I'm no,
I'm no researcher. Ah, I like it now. I listened
to sitans and one time I got obsessed with it
and I sort of got away with that away from that,
you know, and you don't. You don't have to say nothing.
You just sit around listen and sometimes you you will
hear good of a good sighting. But ah, but anyway,
I'm gonna let you get on now. I hope that
helped you out a little bit.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I always liked telling my story and.
Speaker 2: I don't care who believes it. They believe it, it's
fine with me.
Speaker 3: They don't, that's fine too.
Speaker 2: But like I said, oh, one more thing, Uh, these
things mimic other animals. Birds. Ah thing whistle makes you
think that the former John I tell something. But yeah,
they mimic other animals and birds might have said. And
I've heard the people telling about hearing stuff and you know,
and there wasn't nothing there, and that makes me believe
that it was probably a big fut of so squatch
whatever you want to call them far as people. They've
got a I think the things got a hundred names,
and I know the Native Americans gave a hundred names.
Speaker 1: M hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But but Miguel, I'm gonna let you go. You get
on to you, Nick One. I enjoyed talking to you today.
I always enjoy talking to you. I mentioned whbout your
dn't so you can't foot sitting in that tent.
Speaker 1: But anyway, now, I always appreciate you and the encounters
that you had. They're certainly legit. And when I hear
you talking about the experiences, I know that you're not
pulling my leg. Like this encounter story that you shared
with me. It's one of the best ones on my channel.
And I can tell that. I can tell from the
ones where people are just kind of fabricating things and
misinterpreting activity, or you know, there's something seriously wrong with them,
to where there's hunters and outdoorsmen and people that have
these things showing up on their property. You can tell
the difference where I guess, oh, in some stories, I
don't know, some of them sound out there, I guess
is what I'm saying. And some you can tell, like
their genuine reports.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not. I'm not much into that woo woo stuff.
I know it's some of it sounds sort of wooish
but or strange. But I know these people that I've
talked to, the good down to earth people, the farmers, hunters, fishermen,
fly fishermen. Ah, people love to hunt their heads. Uh,
people even into history, you know. But anyway, I'm gonna
let you go. I enjoy talking to you and I Ah,
we'll stay in touch and you need to come out here.
Speaker 3: Uh, we'll go to some of these places.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd definitely be up for that. Keep in touch
with me, and we'll try to make it happen in
the future. We can do it, all right. That sounds
good to me. And Pete, you did an excellent job
of sharing your experiences. If you encounter another Forrest Burger,
definitely get into touch with me and I would love
to hear about it. Oh you will, okay, will you
take care of yourself the meantime.
Speaker 2: Look here, I've won a lottery, but it want money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no doubt about that. Only if you had
a camera when you're down there in the cane bottoms
on the river.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna tell you what. I don't go nowhere
without it no more.
Speaker 3: Coach.
Speaker 1: That's how I am.
Speaker 2: You just don't know what you're going I mean, even
with people, you don't know what you're gonna run up
on any more, but especially if you go out in
the woods, take your camera. WI you.
Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, Pete. It was good talking with you,
and I look forward to our next chat in the future.
Speaker 3: Will you do it all right?
Speaker 1: Take care of my friend, you take care of to you, bady?
All right? So those were some truly amazing encounters shared
right here on Sasquatch Theory and and pets. Experiences stretch
across years, multiple rivers, private land, and remote mountain areas,
from close range visual encounters to vocalizations, whistles, animal mutilations,
red eyed figures, and activity that followed him from property
to property. These weren't isolated moments. They were repeated events
that involved his family, friends, fishermen, hunters, and even local
game boardings, all witnessing pieces of the same strange pattern.
If you've had encounters like peats or experience unexplained activity
in your area, I want to hear your story. You
can reach me directly at Sasquatch Theory at outlook dot com,
and as always, stay alert, stay safe, and remember not
everything in the woods is supposed to be there.