WEBVTT 1 00:00:22.800 --> 00:00:28.559 Hey, everyone, is Tuesday, the twenty sixth of November twenty 2 00:00:28.600 --> 00:00:33.039 twenty four. I am your host, Timu Giant Jan Boum, 3 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:39.240 and I am joined as always by Jeff Grubby grub 4 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:43.399 Grub back from Disneyland. How are you name? Jeff? 5 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:46.840 I've returned only I knew. I knew he was going 6 00:00:46.880 --> 00:00:48.079 to correct you. I knew he was gonna be able 7 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:51.000 to help himself. Yeah, uh yeah, no, I'm I'm back. 8 00:00:51.039 --> 00:00:52.560 Happy to be here, happy to be hanging out with you. 9 00:00:52.640 --> 00:00:56.000 Damn wonderful, wonderful. Also joined by Sean. What did I 10 00:00:56.039 --> 00:00:57.159 say wrong that needed connected? 11 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:00.320 It is Disney World because he went to Flora. 12 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:03.520 Yeah, who fucking. 13 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:08.519 It. 14 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:12.400 I'm just gonna say this. 15 00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:15.840 I'm gonna I'm probably gonna get canceled. All the disneys 16 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:20.519 look the same to me, That's what I'm saying. I 17 00:01:20.560 --> 00:01:24.040 think if anyone was real and admitted it, I think 18 00:01:24.079 --> 00:01:26.799 they wouldn't people know deep down that old disneys look 19 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:31.760 the same. Okay, Sean, there's also a k a Turbo Seawan. 20 00:01:31.799 --> 00:01:33.400 The turbo Sean's how you doing? 21 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:35.120 That's right? Where's my hog? 22 00:01:35.200 --> 00:01:35.480 Tamp? 23 00:01:35.519 --> 00:01:37.280 They took my hog away from me? I need you 24 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:40.560 riding right, now in the middle of bombuck Nowhere, Oregon? 25 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:41.799 Where is my hog? 26 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:45.920 Of course we're talking about days Sean. That's right, isn't it? 27 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:49.640 That was that was experienced last week the hit. 28 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:54.239 Giant Bomb video games Let's Play series featuring Sean playing 29 00:01:54.840 --> 00:01:57.400 perhaps one of the most boring games of all time. 30 00:01:58.200 --> 00:02:02.760 It's it's it's agressively like seven O ten at best 31 00:02:02.920 --> 00:02:07.439 is how I got it? Got okay gameplay wise, the story. 32 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:09.400 Was just yeah, well we'll. 33 00:02:09.240 --> 00:02:10.400 Get into that a little bit later. 34 00:02:10.400 --> 00:02:12.680 But yeah, yeah, we'll get into it. I'm being unfair 35 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:15.479 to It's. It's perfectly fine if you're into if you're 36 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:19.039 in Today's Gone, you know, good for you, I know, 37 00:02:19.280 --> 00:02:23.759 maybe help, yeah, yeah, yeah, more power to you. We're 38 00:02:23.759 --> 00:02:27.479 also joined by Mitch Manati. How are you doing, Michie? 39 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:30.680 Oh I woke up pretty dizzy today and I feel 40 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:31.879 a little nauseous right now. 41 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:34.960 But that's all right. Oh no, that's okay. Well, what 42 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:36.080 did you do last night? 43 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:41.919 I recorded a podcast about an obscure Beating the Beast 44 00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:44.199 Christmas themed direct the video sequel. 45 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:45.759 So what you're. 46 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:48.280 Saying is like, the the feeling you have right now 47 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:51.800 is your body eating itself to prevent you from doing 48 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:53.800 this kind of absolute. 49 00:02:55.080 --> 00:02:55.879 Intel ship. 50 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:03.439 Okay, wait that you caught a lot of things. It's 51 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:06.960 so I think it is a bit unfair, ye'a. 52 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:10.000 I'll have you know. The other Minates are very much 53 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:11.560 happy family men. 54 00:03:12.599 --> 00:03:16.400 Exactly, and they enable me as always. 55 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:18.680 This episode is I don't know if we still have 56 00:03:18.680 --> 00:03:20.080 to say this, but we're powered by n zx T. 57 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:20.840 Let's go. 58 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:23.840 I'm still powered by n z x Half of you guys, 59 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:30.639 you yeah, if you're not by z x T, get 60 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:31.199 help yourself. 61 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:32.840 Geat grip. 62 00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:34.840 My ram is dying. 63 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:45.879 I recently purchased the new Mac Mini, the first time 64 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:49.319 I've ever purchased a Mac computer. 65 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:54.039 Yeah, my U my Mac Air. What do they call 66 00:03:54.639 --> 00:03:57.639 the bacbook Air? Yeah yeah, but I just bought that 67 00:03:57.719 --> 00:03:58.879 last year and that was the first time I ever 68 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:01.240 bought an Apple. It's it's fine. They work fine, like 69 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:04.120 I would never have it be my main computer. This 70 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:05.240 is fine. 71 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:10.039 This new MacBook Mac Minnie Mine, Mac Minnie M for 72 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:16.040 Chip is very very affordable, relatively speaking, very powerful and 73 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:19.040 I don't know if you've watched the videos on it, 74 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:24.560 it is an absolute beast for emulation, of course, definitely 75 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:30.240 purely for emulation and it is rocking. So I'm very 76 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:33.879 excited to my week is going to involve like redoing 77 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:34.879 my entire setup. 78 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:38.360 Yeah that is it like a you're going to just 79 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:40.240 put RetroArch on it or. 80 00:04:40.680 --> 00:04:42.680 I don't know. I think I'm going to use it 81 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:45.319 as an actual computer instead of like re loading up 82 00:04:45.319 --> 00:04:49.360 with games. And I'm doing that primarily because I bought 83 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:51.560 it because like the footprint on it is so small, 84 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:54.680 it's crazy, and I know that by incorporating it into 85 00:04:54.759 --> 00:04:58.120 my setup, I like will free up so much death space. 86 00:04:58.160 --> 00:04:59.079 It's going to be crazy. 87 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:01.279 Oh that's yeah, that makes sense. 88 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:03.079 Yeah, and it's also. 89 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:06.240 Just small as quiet as cool, Like exactly this room 90 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:10.040 heats up, especially in the summer because of how much 91 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:12.279 heat that my computer puts. Off to the idea of 92 00:05:12.319 --> 00:05:14.360 just like this little thing that can like get the 93 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:16.839 work done, not like every workload as well as what 94 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:20.000 I have necessarily, but close enough to it and it 95 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:22.920 kind of just like fits below my monitor, that's really cool. 96 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:25.040 Yeah, that's what I'm excited about because right now I'm 97 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:27.920 running off a Raiser laptop, which has been very good, 98 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:30.480 but it's just a lot of like space that is 99 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:32.399 being taken up and also like if I can free 100 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:34.759 this raisor laptop, I can use it for like gaming 101 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:36.199 in other places. 102 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:36.480 You know. 103 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:39.000 The only concern that I have is whether my like 104 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:42.360 el got too stuff will work on a Mac Mini, 105 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:47.519 like via like my like my came link and stuff 106 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:48.519 like that, because. 107 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:51.480 I'd assume they have software there, because streaming on Mac 108 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:54.759 has become like popular enough that, like, you know, because 109 00:05:54.800 --> 00:05:58.079 creators will just stream from their MacBook that they also 110 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:01.519 use for like work stuff, so I'd assume that that'll work. 111 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:04.240 I think there might be some quirks with Elgato software, 112 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:07.360 but they should all still mostly function. Yeah, trying to 113 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:09.720 mention the computer heating up your room, like I remember, 114 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:13.000 I don't remember where I read this, so maybe it's 115 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:16.199 not exactly accurate, but they're like a space heater and 116 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:18.600 a computer use about the same amount of energy and 117 00:06:18.720 --> 00:06:21.319 put off about the same amount of heat. Instead of 118 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:23.319 space heater, just get a good computer and now you 119 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:23.879 have both things. 120 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:28.079 There was also this thing though, which I'm not sure 121 00:06:28.079 --> 00:06:30.720 if it's a it was a misnomo or something, but 122 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:36.319 apparently like turning a computer on takes more power than 123 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:39.360 just leaving it on the entire day or This was 124 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:41.759 a while by people to say that, and I was like, oh, 125 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:45.040 because yeah, the juice were required to actually get everything going. 126 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:49.000 About cars and stuff. Right where it's starting, the car 127 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:52.120 is used up more gas than just letting it run idle. 128 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:54.920 Just like an excuse to enable you, you freaks who 129 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:56.199 like to just keep your computer on. 130 00:06:56.399 --> 00:06:57.279 I mean that's why. 131 00:06:57.399 --> 00:07:01.519 That's why I primarily did it, because I was like that. 132 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:04.920 Judgmental you are of my people like you, as someone 133 00:07:04.959 --> 00:07:09.399 who works at home, turning your computer off, that's a 134 00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:11.839 freak move, right there is. I'm going to walk through recruiter. 135 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:12.759 Better turn it off. 136 00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:19.199 You look at it. Yeah mode, I do a sleep mode. 137 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:19.439 Yeah. 138 00:07:19.480 --> 00:07:20.600 What is the that's different? 139 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:23.000 That's different now all right, So what is the amount 140 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:25.319 of time you need to be away from your computer 141 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:28.600 for you to be like, I'm turning this off? Because mine, 142 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:34.560 I only ever turned mine off if I'm leaving home 143 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:37.399 for at least two to three days. 144 00:07:37.720 --> 00:07:40.399 I think just been on entire vacations where he hasn't 145 00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:40.920 turned it off. 146 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:42.439 Yeah, because I remote into it. 147 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:44.240 I'm the same Yeah, same reason here, I at least 148 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:47.439 leave in sleep mode on my local network. The mini 149 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:49.680 PC or like the micro PC at this point that 150 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:54.240 I use for my NASS setup can wake on land 151 00:07:54.319 --> 00:07:56.079 my main machine, so I at least leave my main 152 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:59.120 machine and sleep. I never turn it off unless yeah, 153 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:00.879 I don't think I've ever turned in this one off 154 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:01.680 unless I'm. 155 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:05.519 Like, that's like a lot of stuff on my computer 156 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:07.600 kind ends up being it's like acting as a server 157 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:09.879 in a lot of ways. So yeah, I just I 158 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:12.879 leave it on, and uh, you know, I guess this 159 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:14.319 last one. I think I put it at least in 160 00:08:14.360 --> 00:08:16.920 sleep mode. So it's not like I'm like, sure, run 161 00:08:17.079 --> 00:08:18.160 fully up and. 162 00:08:19.399 --> 00:08:22.120 Reason for we're not just freaking to like to like 163 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:24.519 train the power and everything, you know, right, Yeah. 164 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:26.399 There's occasionally just like I need to get something on 165 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:28.399 that on that computer in that folder that I know 166 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:30.199 is there. God, I wish I could do That's like, 167 00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:31.839 oh I can, it's like a remote into it. But 168 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:33.240 when you guys do want to like put it in 169 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:35.399 sleep mode, what do you do? Because I've been doing 170 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:38.960 the Windows X. Then you hit you and then you 171 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:40.879 hit is it D? I think it's that. 172 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:46.159 Off down and then I ain't put the windows hit 173 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:49.120 Windows key X on there and then it gives you 174 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:51.759 uh yeah, you hit you to get the shutdown option, 175 00:08:51.919 --> 00:08:52.559 and I'm not gonna do it. 176 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:56.519 XS shut down the computer the show. And then yeah, 177 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:58.320 so I just hit Windows X is the shortcut to 178 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:00.519 bring up like that fast menu, and then you and 179 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:01.919 then and then d I think, and then. 180 00:09:02.120 --> 00:09:04.759 I may I might go to the Windows but on 181 00:09:04.919 --> 00:09:07.039 right click shut down or sign out sleep. 182 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:09.799 Okay, look at that. I just clicked the left click 183 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:11.799 the button and there's that little power button and I 184 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:13.559 click that and it gives me the options. 185 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:15.559 Okay, yeah, that's probably the same. Yeah. 186 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:18.960 Yeah. The reason that I like keyboard shortcuts is especially 187 00:09:19.039 --> 00:09:20.759 once this is one of the things I talk about 188 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:23.840 where like PC gaming, uh like on a TV is 189 00:09:23.879 --> 00:09:26.679 easier than ever because with Steam, you know, you do 190 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:28.919 the Steam chords they call it, where you hold the 191 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:31.799 homebun and then do different bun combos and like Analog 192 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:34.279 six stuff to control your mouse and stuff. So I 193 00:09:34.320 --> 00:09:37.240 can control my computer entirely with an Xbox controller. I 194 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:39.320 just like if I hold the Xbox bun, I can 195 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:41.879 then move the mouse down over to the Windows bun, 196 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:44.399 put it open, and then use the dpad to just 197 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:46.600 navigate Windows and put my computer in a slap. So 198 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:48.879 I'm just used to using the Meni's like that, it's 199 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:49.320 really nice. 200 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:52.080 I just I just yank the power code out every time. 201 00:09:53.720 --> 00:09:55.919 Yeah, well shut down, that's the damn sure. 202 00:09:56.279 --> 00:09:59.399 Yeah, certain the machines will take over. 203 00:09:59.480 --> 00:10:04.360 Yeah, you are right though, like playing uh games on 204 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:07.720 I use my I have my old gaming PC set 205 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:09.559 up to my TV in case I want to play 206 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:12.559 like any like low tier games or like not too 207 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:17.519 high like power Hog games or graphics Hog games and 208 00:10:17.919 --> 00:10:19.600 running steam Deck on there. I just have it, like 209 00:10:19.639 --> 00:10:22.440 boots straight into steam Deck is so nice. 210 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:25.240 The big picture, yeah, exactly. 211 00:10:27.159 --> 00:10:30.039 Pry vcs is that they are that they're discontinuing sitting 212 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:32.039 in the back room. I'm gonna put steam os on 213 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:37.240 that thing. That's that's that's just it. I'm going to 214 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:37.519 do that. 215 00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:41.159 You know what I recently figured out, not figured out, 216 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:46.360 but I finally a problem. I finally overcame the problem 217 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:48.360 with big picture mode, or I think it might be 218 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:50.559 more of a Windows problem than a thing. And then 219 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:54.399 a big picture mode. I feel like Bluetooth controllers suck 220 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:59.559 on it like really bad. Yeahs general are I've I've 221 00:10:59.639 --> 00:11:04.120 like got the official like Microsoft dongle and the elite 222 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:06.360 dongles go to all that kind of stuff, and it 223 00:11:06.519 --> 00:11:08.159 just it's not very good for me, Like I don't 224 00:11:08.200 --> 00:11:10.000 know what it is. And I know that Lucy also 225 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:14.120 has this issue where we can't like consistently stay connected. 226 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:17.559 It like disconnects every like ten or eleven minutes something 227 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:21.200 like that, and I fucking hate it. And the only 228 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:23.480 way to get around it is like to wire in, 229 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:25.080 and at which point I'm just like, what's that even? 230 00:11:25.120 --> 00:11:26.000 What's even the point? 231 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:29.240 The dongle's are two point four giga hurts connections, so 232 00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:31.679 I wonder if there's just too many years. 233 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:37.080 However, Yeah, however, I recently purchased let me get the 234 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:42.679 exact name of the product, the eight bit Doo controller 235 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:46.679 the Ultimate, Yes, the Ultimate, I believe. 236 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:50.360 Yeah, but I think that might be like my default controller, 237 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:53.440 that thing I use right here on the dock on 238 00:11:53.519 --> 00:11:55.519 my PC. I've been using a NonStop and it's like God, 239 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:56.960 every time I pick it up, I still get happy, 240 00:11:57.039 --> 00:11:58.759 like this is oh, yeah controller. 241 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:01.720 The eight but do ultimate two point four gu wireless 242 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:04.000 control of the whole of one stuff. I heard a 243 00:12:04.039 --> 00:12:05.879 lot of people talking about this thing, and people be like, 244 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:08.440 this thing is so awesome, it's so crazy, And I've 245 00:12:08.440 --> 00:12:10.519 always been like whatever, man, I don't really care. I've 246 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:14.120 got like a I've got the various controllers, the official ones. 247 00:12:14.159 --> 00:12:16.679 I'm fine. And then it was on sale recently for 248 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:19.360 like twenty five dollars or something like that, and I 249 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:21.679 was like, yeah, it's something crazy like twenty five or 250 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:23.559 thirty dollars, and I was like, yeah, I'll get one 251 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:26.240 of these. I'll try it, and oh my god. It firstly, 252 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:29.279 it works flawlessly with the PC. Now, like I just 253 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:32.120 I just it's not even plugged into the PC. It's 254 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:35.519 plugged into a random outlet, which is crazy. And like 255 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:38.600 when I take it off the cradle, it automatically connects 256 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:41.159 to the PC because the dongle's in there, and it 257 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:44.840 just works instantly. I'm like, oh shit, this has fixed it. 258 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:45.840 That's crazy. 259 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:48.720 Yeah, I have my the dock plugged into my PC 260 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:50.519 and then I just have the I think the dongle 261 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:53.159 plugged into the base underneath there, so it's like the 262 00:12:53.559 --> 00:12:56.279 dongle's really close to the controllers, so it looks really good. 263 00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:58.080 It's yeah, it's very convenient. 264 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:01.039 Oh grab you were out while I was talking about this, 265 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:05.600 But A bit Dough is making their own telescopic mobile controller, 266 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:09.200 and you know really yeah, I like playing some mobile 267 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:11.879 games that you know, use controllers. I also really like 268 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:13.799 using because I have an Android phone, I do like 269 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:16.679 using as a lightweight emulation device is that way, and 270 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:19.519 just pop it into a telescopic controller like a backbone 271 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:22.159 or whatever, and it's just a lighter thing to carry 272 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:23.720 around with me if I want to do some PS 273 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:26.879 one emulation or whatever. And so I saw they're making 274 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:29.480 their own and that's really cool because a it's cheap. 275 00:13:29.559 --> 00:13:31.759 It's only fifty bucks, which is like half the price 276 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:34.720 of a backbone and competitors. But also it looks like 277 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:37.720 it's just using the eight bit dough Ultimate parts. Maybe 278 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:39.639 they're like scaled down a little bit, but it's just 279 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:43.639 that deepad those analog sics, those triggers. It looks really nice. 280 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:46.679 So that's coming out soon here, So I'm looking forward 281 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:47.399 to messing around with that. 282 00:13:47.399 --> 00:13:48.879 I would like to Yeah, I like to hear more 283 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:50.120 about that. That sounds very cool. 284 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:53.519 Hey, Bat, if you're listening, we would like to handle 285 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:57.799 out about that personally. Yeah, yeah, Match, You've been trying 286 00:13:57.840 --> 00:14:00.960 to talk for a little while now, so it's okay. 287 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:02.120 I didn't say you could. 288 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:09.399 Just you're so observant. 289 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:12.840 All right, finally, well, what are you going to say? 290 00:14:13.080 --> 00:14:16.159 Okay, look, look I noticed maybe isn't the exact panel 291 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:18.519 to talk to Jeff about his Disney trip a ton, 292 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:24.159 but can I mean, I just want to know what 293 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:26.799 you thought about the avatar land Jeff and Animal Kingdom. 294 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:30.720 It was definitely one of the family's favorites. I really 295 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:34.120 enjoyed it. It was so we did the flight of 296 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:37.840 Passage like pretty early on and we got off and 297 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:39.840 Emmy was just like it just kind of freaked me out. 298 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:41.679 And Addie was like, well, I'm never doing that again. 299 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:43.799 And then about an hour later after we tried to 300 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:45.840 convince them do it again, Steph really liked that you 301 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:48.600 wanted to do it again. Uh, they were like, hey, 302 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:51.240 maybe we'll do it. And then we started like, looking, 303 00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:52.559 are we going to be able to get back on 304 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:55.360 this thing? And the line was really long and we 305 00:14:55.519 --> 00:14:57.600 were I think, is that the one that has a 306 00:14:57.639 --> 00:14:59.240 virtual que Maybe that one doesn't have a virtual que. 307 00:14:59.240 --> 00:15:02.039 I don't think it does. Oh okay, we're trying to 308 00:15:02.039 --> 00:15:03.440 figure out ways to get back on. I think we 309 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:05.279 did get a virtual cue, that's right, And it was 310 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:07.080 kind of too late. In the day to use it again. 311 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:08.559 So it was a bummer that we couldn't get back 312 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:11.039 on there, but we did get to go through the 313 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:13.200 Avatar a little bit, the Avatar Land a little bit 314 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:17.480 as it was becoming dusk, as the Animal Kingdom closes 315 00:15:17.519 --> 00:15:18.480 at six pm. 316 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:21.159 It closes pretty early right now, and yeah, with the 317 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:23.840 you know, yeah exactly, So it's a bit. It's sad 318 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:26.279 because it's very pretty there at night, but yeah, right. 319 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:28.279 And it was beginning to look very pretty, and it's 320 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:30.480 very impressive. I just I do. I think that's what 321 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:33.720 I'm at a point where I enjoy the attractions. I 322 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:36.320 think they're fun, but they're they're over so fast and 323 00:15:36.360 --> 00:15:39.320 so fleeting that I kind of like just spending time 324 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:42.279 in the themed areas more than anything else. And that 325 00:15:42.600 --> 00:15:45.919 Avatar Land was very very well done. And also I'm 326 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:48.240 a mark for Avatar, so of course I was into it. 327 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:56.039 This is Avatar, the Blue People, correct, the Blue People, Yes, well, noon, 328 00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:58.879 they make the Avatar Land that everyone Actually. 329 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:01.799 They're They're gonna let m Shyamalan cook one more. 330 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:06.039 There was an Avatar TV show ride in that Mall 331 00:16:06.039 --> 00:16:09.039 of America theme park. It was like a weird little 332 00:16:09.080 --> 00:16:12.320 carousel thing and you're on AG's Flying Buffalo Friend or. 333 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:15.639 Something Nickelodeon in the All America. 334 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:16.799 Right right, yeah, like. 335 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:20.720 The Bend one. 336 00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:21.840 No no. 337 00:16:21.879 --> 00:16:23.120 I was like, I don't want to say I was 338 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:24.759 too old for it because I watch a ton of 339 00:16:24.799 --> 00:16:26.039 suffering from your audience. 340 00:16:26.279 --> 00:16:30.039 I I I'm sending you homework you need to watch. 341 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:31.480 Start watching an Avatar. Okay. 342 00:16:31.799 --> 00:16:34.039 I started watching on that really weird. 343 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:36.320 Like Disney ship that you're constantly watch. 344 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:36.480 You know. 345 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:38.039 What. 346 00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:40.679 The one thing I did see of Avatar is the 347 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:47.000 night Shamalan. I got attracted that I'm. 348 00:16:46.919 --> 00:16:51.000 Gonna need I'm gonna need you to watch this show immediately, 349 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:53.799 and then I want regular reports in on this. Okay, 350 00:16:53.919 --> 00:16:55.039 that sounds fine. 351 00:16:55.159 --> 00:16:57.679 Is there a name there, the last mitch Bender. 352 00:16:58.399 --> 00:17:02.799 This this is for your person, Richmond. This is because 353 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:05.680 it is one of the few attempts that you have. 354 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:07.359 This is a few methods that you have to make 355 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:09.200 me dislike you less. 356 00:17:09.400 --> 00:17:12.440 So watch Cora. 357 00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:15.200 Also, now just start with the normal, Just start with 358 00:17:15.279 --> 00:17:15.799 book one. 359 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:19.039 Oh yeah, see if you like Avatar first, like try that, sure. 360 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:20.839 Yeah, I bet it? Like, yeah, I gotta watch that. 361 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:21.839 I need to watch Gravity. 362 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:25.000 I just pulled a full art Sabrina. Sorry, I started 363 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:29.079 opening when they started, and I was just very excited 364 00:17:29.079 --> 00:17:29.400 about that. 365 00:17:29.400 --> 00:17:33.400 Sorry, it's very good. That's a very good card shote. 366 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:36.160 Anyways, we're gonna need those avatars me next time I 367 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:38.240 picked you. If I don't hear about you being part 368 00:17:38.279 --> 00:17:40.599 way through avatar, I'm going to be very upset. And 369 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:43.000 I recommending it because I think you genuinely will like it. 370 00:17:43.000 --> 00:17:46.400 It's all like it's it's like, it's a very well 371 00:17:46.400 --> 00:17:49.440 written show, but it's got all that annoying little baby 372 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:50.720 ship that you love in it as well. 373 00:17:50.799 --> 00:17:53.720 Do you like the baby ship does have some power 374 00:17:53.799 --> 00:17:55.039 friendship stuff? Oh? 375 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:58.000 Yeah? Oh boy? Does oh? Okayo? 376 00:17:58.640 --> 00:18:01.480 Does may do like people like maybe slowly fall in 377 00:18:01.480 --> 00:18:03.000 love and maybe like kiss at the end. 378 00:18:04.319 --> 00:18:08.720 No, I'm not going to spoil anything for you. Yes, 379 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:11.000 does kiss maybe? 380 00:18:11.079 --> 00:18:14.279 Who can say? Who can say? Maybe? Just look the 381 00:18:14.279 --> 00:18:17.400 fact that hang on, the fact that Mike doesn't know 382 00:18:17.480 --> 00:18:20.359 that tells me he knows nothing about this franchise. 383 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:21.400 It's just incredible. 384 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:22.440 That's the one thing. 385 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:25.880 He's going to watch this and literally grow up. He's 386 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:28.359 going to be like, Oh, this is what actual good 387 00:18:28.680 --> 00:18:32.440 cartoons can be. It's gonna be incredible. I can't wait. 388 00:18:32.799 --> 00:18:35.119 It's got creatures in there that you'll love, like Uppa 389 00:18:35.240 --> 00:18:35.799 and Momo. 390 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:38.519 And what better do you think I would be? Which 391 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:40.119 is the I know a little bit, What are the 392 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:41.720 what elemental bender would I be? 393 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:43.480 You're not going to be a bender. You're being the 394 00:18:43.519 --> 00:18:44.880 cabbage guy and that is it. 395 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:47.079 I don't like the sound of that. 396 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:51.079 Yeah, okay, you are my cabbages guy, and that is it. 397 00:18:51.160 --> 00:18:52.960 Okay, he's our cabbages guy. 398 00:18:53.200 --> 00:18:57.359 Yea, God, that's not I don't know why, but that 399 00:18:57.400 --> 00:18:59.000 sounds like the worst thing I've ever been called. 400 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:07.680 Like, yeah, isn't there there is? And you are not 401 00:19:07.839 --> 00:19:11.039 Uncle irol you are knowing that Uncle one is though, 402 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:15.160 that's like yeah uncle like yeah, Uncle Iro like will 403 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:17.240 take if he's taking up your time, he's telling you 404 00:19:17.279 --> 00:19:20.160 something wise and helping you grow you. 405 00:19:20.160 --> 00:19:26.880 You remember when you're still call Disney World Disneyland. I 406 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:28.640 had lots of wise things to say about that. 407 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:32.440 That's what we call you. 408 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:34.559 But yeah, I think you would actually really like it. Honestly, 409 00:19:35.119 --> 00:19:36.599 I think you really really would like it. 410 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:39.160 Holiday break Caro out, Yeah, I. 411 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:41.200 Would love I would love that. I would love to 412 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:42.400 hear how you get on with it. 413 00:19:42.599 --> 00:19:45.000 I always respected the fact that instead of seasons, it 414 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:49.079 called him books, right, I see that the Best Buy 415 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:51.839 or something like Book one of Avatar. I'm like, oh, 416 00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:54.279 neat books are more important than seasons. 417 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:56.759 I don't know if that's true. 418 00:19:56.759 --> 00:19:59.640 Man, Yeah, sports are horizon. What are you talking about? 419 00:19:59.640 --> 00:20:03.519 Remember the book a fet I mean the most important? 420 00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:07.599 Oh my god, that was one of the worst things 421 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:11.839 I've ever watched that. I don't even remember it. I 422 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:15.200 just remember him being in the ground for like, was 423 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:16.839 it like thirty episodes. 424 00:20:16.759 --> 00:20:17.279 Quite a while. 425 00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:19.799 It's the only show that I ever watched every episode 426 00:20:19.880 --> 00:20:24.039 but the last one, I just like obligated. You think 427 00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:25.920 the last one I may as well, And I was 428 00:20:25.960 --> 00:20:27.279 just like, who gives a ship? 429 00:20:29.079 --> 00:20:30.720 They didn't care, so yeah, why would we? 430 00:20:32.519 --> 00:20:35.039 Jeff? Do you have any follow ups on your trip 431 00:20:35.119 --> 00:20:36.440 to Disney's? 432 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:42.759 It was very nice? Yeah, sure. I think the big 433 00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:46.039 thing is you really do notice where the money goes 434 00:20:46.400 --> 00:20:48.079 when you spend all this money on trip like this. 435 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:51.559 You go there and it's like, there are forty people 436 00:20:51.720 --> 00:20:56.039 working at this bus depot. They're like gonna make sure 437 00:20:56.079 --> 00:20:58.920 that you never go two inches without someone that might 438 00:20:59.119 --> 00:21:01.680 help you or say something nice and it's like they're 439 00:21:01.799 --> 00:21:04.200 like I looked it up, like this might do they 440 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:07.160 just deploy more people than anyone else. They do. Seventy 441 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:10.440 five thousand people work at Disney World. That is the 442 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:14.119 world christ just at World. It's the it's the largest 443 00:21:14.119 --> 00:21:17.240 single site employer in the world. And you notice it 444 00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:17.920 when you're in. 445 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:21.279 It's like, I feel like it's the largest, most successful 446 00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:25.960 like doomsday cult waiting to be activated, but it's it's 447 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:31.480 like that is literally coound of fucking insane people. When 448 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:33.759 the ship hits the fan, they're are just going to 449 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:36.599 turn into like fuckings. 450 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:39.799 I went to Universal and it's like it's the same thing, 451 00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:41.799 but they're not as happy, So give me the doomsday 452 00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:42.799 call like that was like. 453 00:21:43.319 --> 00:21:47.279 Yeah, but like the moment, like the fan, you're just 454 00:21:47.319 --> 00:21:50.000 gonna have the good kool aid. Yeah, the moment the 455 00:21:50.039 --> 00:21:52.440 ship is the fan, you're just gonna see like gates 456 00:21:52.519 --> 00:21:55.799 appear and everyone's. 457 00:21:55.359 --> 00:21:58.839 Like at least when they're drinking the kool aid, So 458 00:21:58.839 --> 00:21:59.400 that would be arrant. 459 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:01.920 That's gonna be when they like go full of stone 460 00:22:01.960 --> 00:22:04.160 cuts and everyone goes, oh, we. 461 00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:05.240 Have no idea. 462 00:22:05.599 --> 00:22:08.319 That's why there's seven thousand people in here. There are 463 00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:12.079 self sustaining society built on fucking mouse cartoons. 464 00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:13.880 It was a thousand. 465 00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:22.720 Actually, there's plenty of us to kill you. 466 00:22:24.119 --> 00:22:27.319 I didn't feel myself becoming more of like, oh, I 467 00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:29.559 am becoming one of the cultists, because my favorite part 468 00:22:29.599 --> 00:22:32.240 was always tell my family, I think you're gonna like this, 469 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:34.319 and when they liked it, I was like, oh, I 470 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:35.440 did it. I got. 471 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:41.920 The adult experience hoping that people like things as much 472 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:42.400 as you think. 473 00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:44.920 Yeah, they're like, oh, they did love Sorrow, and I 474 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:47.960 knew they would love sorin and then yeah, it was 475 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:50.000 a good time. I think some of my favorite stuff 476 00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:54.160 was going around the Moon specifically and Guardians of the Galaxy, 477 00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:57.759 the Roller or the Cosmic Rewind because that like it 478 00:22:57.920 --> 00:23:00.359 just you feel like it's like an actual gravitational hole, 479 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:03.000 and they do a really good job of emphasizing that. 480 00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:05.680 I don't know. I just had a really good time 481 00:23:05.720 --> 00:23:07.039 and it really felt worth it. 482 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:11.599 The picture of your kids guards of the CASI incredible. Yeah, 483 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:14.400 your your daughter's holding onto you for dear life. 484 00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:16.440 She and she was the one that was down to 485 00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:18.440 clown with a lot of these rides, and then she 486 00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:20.680 would go off and be like, oh, I don't know 487 00:23:20.680 --> 00:23:24.640 about that one I asked, and you seem to want 488 00:23:24.640 --> 00:23:28.160 to do it. They and Addie like pride on every 489 00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:29.839 single ride, and then we get to the next one, 490 00:23:29.920 --> 00:23:31.240 like are you sure you want to do this? And 491 00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:33.680 she's like, well, mom is going, so I'm gonna go. 492 00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:35.680 That's cook it. 493 00:23:35.799 --> 00:23:37.759 Sometimes like they have a kid can have a back 494 00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:39.680 experience and they're like, I'm not doing any more rides 495 00:23:39.720 --> 00:23:40.680 the rest of the trip. 496 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:42.359 I was wondering if that would happen. 497 00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:45.079 Is the Guardians one that does like the Drop. 498 00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:47.799 So that's Disneyland, it's a drop and Disney World. 499 00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:50.880 It's a coaster, yes, and it's a it's basically it's 500 00:23:50.920 --> 00:23:53.359 a lot like Space Mountain, but in terms of like 501 00:23:53.359 --> 00:23:56.000 it's inside and it's got a similar sort of like 502 00:23:56.400 --> 00:23:59.440 fast turns and stuff like that. But the car you're 503 00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:02.480 sitting in it self can turn, can rotate left and right, 504 00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:05.240 so when you do go around objects, it's like, all right, 505 00:24:05.240 --> 00:24:07.079 we're going to turn the cart over towards the Moon 506 00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:08.559 and then we're gonna have you be in like this 507 00:24:08.680 --> 00:24:11.279 geosynchronous orbit with the Moon really fast, and you're gonna 508 00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:13.200 get whipped to the side and you're really gonna feel 509 00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:15.480 that effect, and it was it was really well done 510 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:17.400 and they're playing the music and stuff. It's good. 511 00:24:17.599 --> 00:24:19.519 I've avoided that one for a while because I am 512 00:24:19.559 --> 00:24:21.839 a coward. Do you think I could do guard into 513 00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:22.599 the Guxy Jet? 514 00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:24.160 How do you feel about doing Space Mountain? 515 00:24:25.039 --> 00:24:26.240 I'm pretty good with these days. 516 00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:28.559 I think it's space it's one step up from Space Mountain. Here, 517 00:24:28.559 --> 00:24:30.799 it's one step up. That's probably that that step though, 518 00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:34.079 that the big difference, I know, I you know, I 519 00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:37.359 think so that was definitely one where so we're we're 520 00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:39.279 doing all these different roller coasters and stuff like that, 521 00:24:39.319 --> 00:24:41.319 and there's the little kids roller coasters. The kids very 522 00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:44.559 much gott into those, Flight of the Hippogriff and barn Stormer. 523 00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:48.240 They love seven Doors mind Train that. Everyone really liked that. 524 00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:52.920 And then we would do Guardians and it was like, okay, 525 00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:54.880 they did. I could tell that they thought that was 526 00:24:54.960 --> 00:24:57.240 very exhilarating and fun, but it was also too much 527 00:24:57.240 --> 00:24:59.880 for them and so and I'm like it was like wondering, 528 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:02.559 you know, Addie was having a very similar reaction to 529 00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:03.839 all this stuff where it was reminded me like this 530 00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:05.680 is probably how Mike felt as a kid doing some 531 00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:08.160 of these things, and I'm like, is she going to 532 00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:10.200 be ruined on these? And that was one they would 533 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:10.759 not do again. 534 00:25:10.799 --> 00:25:12.960 It's definitely, to be clear, she's already doing much better 535 00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:15.720 than I was because I just didn't go on yeah, 536 00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:18.279 and she's like, and she did kept coming coming back 537 00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:19.960 to other ones, but that one was one that she 538 00:25:19.960 --> 00:25:20.720 wouldn't do again. 539 00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:22.480 So I wonder I think that one's probably a bit 540 00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:22.920 too much. 541 00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:25.839 One one last question, what was what was the yummiest 542 00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:27.759 thing that you ate in Disney World, Jack, because for me, 543 00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:29.279 a big part of it anymore as the food. 544 00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:34.839 Yes, so there's the Rodeo round up. The restaurant, a 545 00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:38.279 sit down restaurant in toy story Land, had really really 546 00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:40.720 good barbecue sauce. It was very very good. We had 547 00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:42.880 a good waiter. We had the dining plan so we 548 00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:45.200 could get you know, alcoholic drinks with every meal, and 549 00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:49.759 we did and that was good. They had great drinks also. 550 00:25:49.960 --> 00:25:53.680 The I had the curry at the I try to 551 00:25:53.680 --> 00:26:01.640 specifically try to. I definitely had the curry at Tusker 552 00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:04.400 House and that was very very good. But no, there 553 00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:07.920 was also in the Japanese the Japanese restaurant in Japan 554 00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:10.480 in Epcot that kind of sits up a little bit 555 00:26:10.519 --> 00:26:13.599 behind the thing right there was there was no one there. 556 00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:15.440 It was right before the fireworks. We went in there 557 00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:17.200 and had dinner, and I had a Japanese career there 558 00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:19.839 and it was really, really, really good. So I there 559 00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:22.640 were several restaurants where I was like, this is okay, 560 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:25.039 and then there was many that was like, oh, this 561 00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:27.559 food actually does rock. And that was the like Rodeo 562 00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:29.519 restaurant and stuff like that. So a lot of good 563 00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:30.720 barbecue at Disney turns out. 564 00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:33.440 Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely there just that Sam Eagle seemed 565 00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:35.160 one in Epcot. I haven't even been able to eat 566 00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:37.519 at yet. C Yeah, I went in there so much Topcott. 567 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:39.759 Yeah, it smelled so good. But we already had the 568 00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:42.240 plans to go somewhere else. So but man, the Sam Eagle, 569 00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:44.799 and we already had barbecue a bunch of times, so 570 00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:47.039 we're like, well, no, it's not do Sam Eagle, but man, 571 00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:47.960 that place smelled great. 572 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:51.440 The thing I loved most about going to Disney was 573 00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:55.720 mainly getting the doll Whip, because I was led to 574 00:26:55.759 --> 00:27:00.160 believe that doll Whip was only available inside Disneyland. I 575 00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:02.440 was like, oh, well at least that's something exciting for 576 00:27:02.519 --> 00:27:05.519 me to look forward to to go. And though dolip 577 00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:09.359 is everywhere, it turns out like it's there. Went every 578 00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:12.119 time I went go to what do you call it? 579 00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:16.079 A San Diego Comic Con, the hotel that we like 580 00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:19.440 do all of our workout right underneath it is a 581 00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:22.559 place that does like dole whip in multiple different flavors. 582 00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:25.519 So me and Lucy always like go to a thing 583 00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:27.880 on the way back Dolwhip. So now I'm just like, 584 00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:30.119 I have no reason to go back to Disneyland. 585 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:32.200 There's the Disney Magic there, though they don't have an 586 00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:34.920 animatronic bird singing to you while you eat it. 587 00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:37.160 You know, I did not go in there. Yeah, there 588 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:40.279 was a few things. Lounge, yes, whatever is that what 589 00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:41.559 I called her? Is that what it's called? 590 00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:43.519 You call it the na Tiki Lounge and it's the 591 00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:47.279 Chanit Tiki Room. And yes, that small mistake upset me greatly. 592 00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:52.519 Okay. So that's the other thing. There are a lot 593 00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:55.079 of things where it's like this is a forty show 594 00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:57.480 or a place where you go sit down there's animatronics, 595 00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:00.720 and every single time I'd be like that sounds and 596 00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:04.599 then I'd go in, I'm like, this is amazing. Every 597 00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:08.480 single time Mickey's phil Harmagic, I'm like, well whatever going there. 598 00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:11.880 I'm like this cgi is old. Five seconds in this rules, 599 00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:14.680 I'm having a great time. It's they just do a 600 00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:16.960 good job with all that stuff. And so yeah, it 601 00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:20.359 was easy to enjoy myself. The one like bummer was 602 00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:22.880 we're trying to get a space for the fireworks on 603 00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:24.799 the last night at Magic Kingdom because it's the one 604 00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:26.279 that where the kids were able to stay up. Both 605 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:27.599 of them were able to stay up and watch it. 606 00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:30.720 And we got there an hour and ten minutes before 607 00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:32.640 they're going to start. We're really going to stake this out, 608 00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:35.200 and you know, Steph wanted to go get popcorn. And 609 00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:37.839 then it's like, okay, we're getting so crowded that she's 610 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:40.039 not gonna have enough room here. And everyone's standing right 611 00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:42.440 in front of my five and seven year old and 612 00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:44.200 it's like none of these people have kids, And I 613 00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:46.880 definitely had a little bit of the you know, you know, 614 00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:49.440 these fireworks shows are four kids, So there's gonna be 615 00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:51.440 a bunch of things that king on that castle, right, 616 00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:54.079 there's gonna be a bunch of kids movies. Can you 617 00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:57.720 guys just like have some awareness that you're standing right 618 00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:00.279 right in front of children, but whatever. I held both 619 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:02.480 up for forty five minutes while I watch the fireworks. 620 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:08.000 That is primarily one of the reasons I quite dislike Disneyland. Like, yeah, 621 00:29:08.359 --> 00:29:11.519 I think the adults are the worst part of Disneyland, 622 00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:15.119 and like they have no humility, they have no shame, 623 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:18.359 and they have no self awareness, and like it happens 624 00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:19.799 every time I go there. 625 00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:22.759 I see these bitch ass. 626 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:27.000 Adults getting in the way of children and like just 627 00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:30.240 being the worst human beings every time. And I say 628 00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:31.799 every time I go there, I see like at least 629 00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:33.720 two or three instance of the instance of it. And 630 00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:36.000 I'm just like, I think there should be a rule 631 00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:40.400 where if you're actively making a child's experience worse, you 632 00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:43.960 should be kicked out, like immediately, like you that's not. 633 00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:48.480 That motherfucker up there, I would ever get that. 634 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:51.799 I feel like in a situation like the fireworks, there 635 00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:55.599 should be someone going around and being like the kid, 636 00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:57.279 that adult needs to go back so the kid can 637 00:29:57.279 --> 00:29:59.279 get forward, Like that is how it should be. 638 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:01.559 And it is a little bit like where like you 639 00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:03.599 go and watch anything about like the start, like how 640 00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:05.759 like Walt started it, and he was like, I just 641 00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:07.480 wanted a place to go where we could do things 642 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:10.640 together with my very young daughters. I'm like, fucking preach Walt. 643 00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:12.319 Hell yeah, let's let's let's make that well. 644 00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:15.839 It's busy known for his good takes on life, the universe, 645 00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:16.319 and the people. 646 00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:18.440 Okay, lot that stuff's overstated. 647 00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:24.279 I feeling around to these adults and being like, hey, 648 00:30:24.759 --> 00:30:26.759 you're being a bit Michael Jackson right now. 649 00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:32.039 So what I did do is I was like, we 650 00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:34.079 we stopped and there was a spilled coke and I 651 00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:36.440 was like, all right, I'm gonna be like, just don't 652 00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:38.160 stand in that coke so it creates like a little 653 00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:40.599 bubble in front of the kids. And that that didn't work. 654 00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:43.119 But there was also a bit of smashed fry. Someone 655 00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:45.599 stepped in some fries and it looked a little bit like, oh, 656 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.880 maybe someone was sick here. So when uh, there's a 657 00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:51.400 group of girls here and a couple here, and they 658 00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:53.759 basically just stood on top of me when I'm trying 659 00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:55.119 to stand right for the kids to like create like 660 00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:57.119 a little space so they can look up and see 661 00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:00.480 everything at least a little bit. And uh, my bag 662 00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:02.279 was bumping him because the kids kept asking for stuff, 663 00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:03.960 and so one of the girls like, hey, your back 664 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:07.599 keeps hitting me. I'm like, you should move, you should 665 00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:10.240 you should move, And then she looked at me like 666 00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:12.079 how dare you? So I'm like then I'm like I 667 00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:14.319 kind of changed tactics. I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm just 668 00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:16.119 trying to someone spill their coke here and I think 669 00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:18.240 that's vomit and I'm just trying not to step in it. 670 00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:20.000 And then she just turns to her friends and they 671 00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:24.160 all just collectively and I had spaced the rest had 672 00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:28.000 to play. I played the bar card and it worked. 673 00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:31.240 It was mostly just like very upsetting, like frustrating. It 674 00:31:31.319 --> 00:31:33.039 was such a good time and we didn't have a 675 00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:35.279 lot of interactions like this, and of course last night 676 00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:37.200 I'm dealing with a little bit of assholes and it's like, 677 00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:39.519 you know, confrontation and I'm like, oh, like gets in 678 00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:41.920 the pits pit of my stomach, but let it go. 679 00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:44.200 It worked out well. The kids saw everything because again 680 00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:45.799 I had to hold them, but it was fine. 681 00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:49.119 Yep, yeah, I feel like that does should be like, hey, man, 682 00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:52.319 you know how you wouldn't get on bosses or public transpond, 683 00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:54.920 it's like, hey, these these see stuff of the elderly, Like, 684 00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:57.759 let you know, if someone if you're sitting here and 685 00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:01.000 someone comes in and they like, let's say, or they're older, 686 00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:03.559 please give these seats up. I feel like that same 687 00:32:03.759 --> 00:32:07.400 rule and kind of ethos around they should be instituted 688 00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:09.960 in Disneyland, where it's like, hey, these are kids seats, 689 00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:12.079 So if a kid comes up and says, hey, I 690 00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:14.640 want to sit here, please, you should get out of 691 00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:17.000 the way. But I feel like I do, like don't 692 00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:19.599 want too l to do that, But no, I watched 693 00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:21.880 this when I grew up, so I'm entitled to as well. 694 00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:25.119 Shut up in And like point is like, you know, 695 00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:29.319 it's so big and all that money that the adults 696 00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:31.240 spend makes the whole thing go round. So I get 697 00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:32.680 that they're like catering to everybody. 698 00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:42.519 Yeah, universal disrespect children. 699 00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:42.279 That aren't going to stop you like the one group 700 00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:44.480 people like don't like Disney and understands people who don't 701 00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:46.519 like crowds like, well, yep, sure are a lot of 702 00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:48.759 those in Disney. And when you get a bunch of 703 00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:51.119 people together, all bets are off. You're gonna just run 704 00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:54.880 into assholes and weird people exactly. You're gonna get frustrated. Yeah, 705 00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:55.839 like that is gonna and. 706 00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:57.720 I know that those people went home and are like 707 00:32:58.000 --> 00:32:59.640 that guy was an asshole, Like they're gonna think I 708 00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:02.880 was the ass all but I'm like, I think you are. Yeah, 709 00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:04.039 but I knew I was writing this. 710 00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:08.440 Yeah, it's for the kids. As long as your kids 711 00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:10.599 came out of that like happy and got to see 712 00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:12.960 what I would if you had told me you punched 713 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.519 someone in the face when they like came up to you, 714 00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:17.960 just so your kids have a better experience, I'd be like, 715 00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:21.519 good on you, man. I respect that punctioned on Disney Doults. 716 00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:22.160 I respect that. 717 00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:25.720 I love that next time, I love that for you. 718 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:27.480 That's enough of the Disney. 719 00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:29.640 Talk, Mitch. 720 00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:35.640 Anything that you want to talk about, we have to 721 00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:37.079 carry on, like on to the next session. 722 00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:38.880 I gave you an opportunity to match. It wasn't me. 723 00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:39.319 That's okay. 724 00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:43.599 Away from you, that's still say I'm sorry about that. 725 00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:45.160 That's fine. I know you did your best. 726 00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:46.200 All right. 727 00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:50.119 We're gonna go to Sean to begin with to see 728 00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:53.400 what you've been playing. There's a couple of things that 729 00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:57.279 I'm really interested in seeing hearing about from you. Not 730 00:33:57.359 --> 00:33:59.279 days gone obviously, but the other two years. 731 00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:02.680 But yeah, the first one I want to start with 732 00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:07.160 a little bit more metaphor. I'm like in endgame right now, 733 00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:10.199 if you know, you know, like I don't, I don't 734 00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:12.320 know how close the endgame I am, but like I'm 735 00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:15.800 after the opera house. I'm after the place you go 736 00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:18.039 after the opera house. So that has to be like 737 00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:20.320 closing in on the end there, right, like at least 738 00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:21.480 in the end quarter. 739 00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:24.960 Yeah, And like most jack gees, there's always like maybe 740 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:28.440 a smidge more than you think there is. Yeah, you're definitely. 741 00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:29.760 Like that's what I was telling you, Yeah, because I'm like, 742 00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:32.519 I'm sixty hours in, so I'm like, yeah, yeah, minimum, 743 00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:35.239 I have another ten to go. Like basically my final 744 00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:38.360 time was like was eighty hours. Yeah, so I know 745 00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:39.920 I have quite a bit more to go. And hey, 746 00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:42.599 we got the extra extra long weekend here, so I'm 747 00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:46.199 I'm probably gonna fish it this weekend. That game just 748 00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:50.760 keeps getting better, weirdly enough, like it there's a little 749 00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:52.599 bit of a low in the middle where they established 750 00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:56.760 a bunch of story things, but it just goes so 751 00:34:56.800 --> 00:34:59.599 many places. The gameplay keeps getting better too. It is 752 00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.599 a phenomenal game. I want to bring up here more 753 00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:06.079 so because Tam, have you played through Metaphor, I know 754 00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:07.280 you probably actively. 755 00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:10.960 I'm actively playing it now, So I played a bunch 756 00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:13.320 of it to make sure that you know, I had 757 00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:16.880 a good frame of reference for like coverage, review, verification 758 00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:19.719 and that kind of stuff, but one that I had 759 00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:23.480 enough of that, and I had that phase past. I 760 00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:25.679 deliberately took my foot off the pedal because I wanted 761 00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:28.440 to enjoy it as opposed to because I remember playing 762 00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:31.800 through Persona like three times in a row, like just 763 00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:35.800 for like coverage stuff, and by the end of it, 764 00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:37.840 I was just like, I love Persona five, but I 765 00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:40.079 just don't ever want to hear about it ever again. 766 00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:43.000 And I'm trying to avoid that this time because I'm 767 00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:47.280 hoping that I will also be finished relatively soon, but 768 00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:49.199 I'm not. I'm not super far in. I've been playing 769 00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:51.039 in bits and pieces and it runs really well on 770 00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:54.840 the the rog Ali and X, and so I've been 771 00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:56.599 kind of like playing a bit on my computer and 772 00:35:56.639 --> 00:35:59.480 then playing a bit like in Bed and that kind 773 00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:00.920 of stuff and enjoying it that way. 774 00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:02.880 Yeah, that's how I've been the whole game through. 775 00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:05.000 I did the whole game through my rock ally. 776 00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:09.320 Yeah, which that's that's impressive. I I played. I do 777 00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:12.840 basically the switch thing I do for that someazonlla on 778 00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:16.199 the Nintendo Switch, as in, I play big story parts 779 00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:18.320 in the big comfy chair back there on the big 780 00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:20.920 old TV. And then when it's like okay, X amount 781 00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:24.079 of days until this happens, go do whatever, then I'll play, 782 00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:26.599 you know, like an hour or two before bed on 783 00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:28.760 the Steam deck while I'm like laying in bed or 784 00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:32.559 chilling in the chair or whatever. Yeah, I'm really enjoying it. 785 00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:34.880 It's very, very good, and it's definitely like, you know, 786 00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:38.000 towards the top o list, if not maybe at the 787 00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:39.719 top for a Game of the year stuff for me, 788 00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:44.119 So I such, oh we all do. 789 00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:48.719 He's so good still at the One Game Awards sub 790 00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:52.239 I'm upset about first off, no metaphour characters or best performance, 791 00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:56.480 but Hi's me especially he has so many just incredible 792 00:36:56.599 --> 00:36:59.119 battle barks. He is the best battle barks. That's bar 793 00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:00.199 versus capcom to. 794 00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:04.079 It's so goods may not getting nominated and the voice 795 00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:06.159 actor for Egon in a Tree. 796 00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:07.280 Not getting right. 797 00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:15.079 Energy disgraceful, disgraceful, killed guy. I posted about that on 798 00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:18.480 like Blue Sky or whatever it was, and people were 799 00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:22.000 up my ass. So like ego only has like two 800 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:23.840 or three phase phrases and I'm. 801 00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:26.800 Just like, and they were up here. This is probably threads. 802 00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:30.599 I'm just going on here, but threads, And yeah. 803 00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:32.239 So who cares? 804 00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:34.800 So yeah, those two or two phrases are better than 805 00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:37.639 anyone else. So at this point, I just want Jeff 806 00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:39.639 to play metaphor just so you can see Hi's me. 807 00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:49.360 It's the most he's not getting there, Yeah, probably not, 808 00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:51.760 but it's like to give you a frame of reference, Jeff. 809 00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:56.039 It's kind of like a Bear and Marlene in f 810 00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:59.719 F seven. It's like moments like that a lot sadder 811 00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:02.800 for reasons. But yeah, like a lot of really good 812 00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:05.119 character moments there. And yeah, just metaphor has been. 813 00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:08.239 He's a little bat guy with a with a sword 814 00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:08.920 back guy. 815 00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:11.199 He's like a sad dad, but he's like a fun 816 00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:16.119 sad dad. He's wisdom and uh incredible. 817 00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:18.719 Also, get like the sad dad part of his arc 818 00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:22.360 gets resolved or at least like quickly progress fairly quickly. 819 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:23.880 He's more than a sad dad. 820 00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:26.360 Yeah, that being his social link and the way it resolves, 821 00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:30.000 And like I said this, I think in our initial 822 00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:34.199 review cast of the way his social link is him 823 00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:38.280 growing as a person, which is meaningful considering that he 824 00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:41.360 is like the mentor to so much of this younger cast, 825 00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:42.960 I think is fantastic. 826 00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:46.280 Yeah, it's it's one of those where you're like, the 827 00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:49.039 younger cast gets to see someone older and why is 828 00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:52.119 it actually like resolve the issues in a very healthy 829 00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:55.079 way and it serves to be a good example to them, 830 00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:56.920 which is really find of. 831 00:38:56.960 --> 00:39:01.559 Good examples of like healthy French ships right in this game. 832 00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:03.400 And it makes me really glad that they didn't do 833 00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:06.920 the kind of romance stuff. Right, there's a couple of 834 00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:10.320 things that hint at it, and that's cute. But somehow 835 00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:13.280 it does feel actually more mature and more adult that 836 00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:15.480 it's not just like here's all these people, which one 837 00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:17.599 of them do you want to go on a date with? 838 00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:18.280 Right? 839 00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:19.559 Seems to. 840 00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:22.880 You want with her? 841 00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:29.679 Yeah. Does the characters absolutely make this game? It's phenomenal 842 00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:31.280 and I'm loving it so much. 843 00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:35.920 Yeah, for sure. The other game that you've got on here, 844 00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:38.199 I'm very very interested, but I've never heard of it, 845 00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:43.519 But it's it's in my wheelhouse. Yeah, NBA Superstars, what's up? 846 00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:44.280 That's right? 847 00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:49.360 Okay, So this is that raw Thrills arcade game at 848 00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:54.360 Dave and Busters. Now that is like, yeah, I forget 849 00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:57.280 how much NBA jam involvement is in there, but like 850 00:39:57.320 --> 00:39:59.760 Tim kits Row is the voice and everything. But so 851 00:39:59.880 --> 00:40:01.199 the this is the one that people are like, oh, 852 00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:04.119 this is going to be the good new NBA JAM. 853 00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:09.440 I have a friend in town who he's iroqically here 854 00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:12.760 for work, but we went to a daven Busters last 855 00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:14.880 night just to hang out on our thing, and that 856 00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:16.800 was the first thing we went to because they got 857 00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:18.960 the machine. It's right there in the front, and we 858 00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:23.559 all sat down and put our Oh what's the conversion 859 00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:25.920 dound this It does cost you like two dollars two 860 00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:28.840 fifty or whatever per person per play, because that's what 861 00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:33.639 David Buster's machines are gonna cost you. Yep, And there's 862 00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:36.440 a little bit jink. It is a fully three D game. 863 00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:39.760 It's also it's not two v two it is like 864 00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:42.239 those kind of weird NBA jams. It's three v three 865 00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:48.000 so that's a little awkward. So it's a three bun game. Now, Well, 866 00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:50.639 it's always been three bun game, including Turbo, but now 867 00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:55.719 like Turbo is also your like your Steel Slash Shove bun. 868 00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:59.199 So that's a little jank, but it's kind of cool 869 00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:04.039 to just go to an arcade setting and play NBA 870 00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:06.840 Jam again. In addition to all these you know, more 871 00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.039 carnival games that they tend to have at these places 872 00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:14.039 and the stuff like the you know, the Injustice arcade game, 873 00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:16.960 which is just like left right and matchupun or whatever. 874 00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:19.719 They're very dumb down. Now, it's fun to kind of 875 00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:22.559 just go back to an original, even if it again 876 00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:26.559 feels a little jank. The physics aren't quite right. But like, look, 877 00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:29.639 I'm you know, I was playing Bucks because Wisconsin. My 878 00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:33.559 buddy of course picked Golden State Warriors was mother. 879 00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:37.039 Those calves. Those calves are on fire right now. 880 00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:40.400 Yeah, but we but we had Giannis, so you know, 881 00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:42.599 guess who won. I'm just saying, uh. 882 00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:48.639 Just has to be a Roth Thrills joint, right, Yes, sorry, 883 00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:52.760 my pad it has guns reference to a. 884 00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:57.719 Yeah, So yeah, I don't know. Even even if the 885 00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:01.639 game isn't like amazing, it's got it's got nothing on 886 00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:04.239 actual NBA Jam. I'm still gonna like you know how 887 00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:06.519 it goes, right, We have a barcade here. If I 888 00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:08.159 actually want to play it, that's where I'll go. But 889 00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:10.599 if you're just like hanging out, oh no, it's kind 890 00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:12.920 of neat like playing that. And I just wanted to 891 00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:16.239 say that, Like my David Busters also has that's where 892 00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:19.719 they have the floor player cruising blast machines that like 893 00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:23.480 talking about. They have the Mario card arcade. They have 894 00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:27.480 the Luigi's Mansion Arcade. That game rules. If you've never 895 00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:29.679 had a chance to play it, like you have, you know, 896 00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:34.480 Luigi's the Poulter gust and every time you suck in 897 00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:37.719 a coin, the thing goes thunk thunk, like the actual 898 00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:42.239 Like it's yeah, it's so much fun. 899 00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:48.760 I was the Hollywood damon Busters and they had a 900 00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:51.639 fifth House of the Dead I never knew existed. Yeah, 901 00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:54.679 Scarlet right, Yeah was super fun. 902 00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:59.000 Yeah, it's fun, but it's it's tough, like they they 903 00:42:59.079 --> 00:42:59.880 eat your quarterers. 904 00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:05.760 Currently, what is the best way to play NBA JAM if. 905 00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:09.679 You have a like three sixty era console, that game is. 906 00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:12.519 No, that's the one I really like. I like. Obviously 907 00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:15.920 the older NBA GM is better, but I really enjoyed 908 00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:19.079 the three sixty Era one. But it's just like you 909 00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:21.119 cannot play that anywhere, right. 910 00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:23.920 Unfortunately, do licensing stuff, it's hard to go back to 911 00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:28.079 some some of these games. I just fire up. I 912 00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:30.239 like firing up a Dreamcast emulator so I can play 913 00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:33.880 like Blitz two thousand and NBA Showtime with my friends. 914 00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:37.599 Stamps are always picking like mods that do the new 915 00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:41.159 rosters and yeah, like Clascond. I don't know if they're 916 00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:44.480 doing it in like some Genesis version or some main 917 00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:47.440 Arcade version, right, I don't know exactly what the base 918 00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:48.039 is at there. 919 00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:50.320 I just wish that on Fire Edition was a little 920 00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:54.920 more available. I think I did see that someone on 921 00:43:55.119 --> 00:44:01.280 PS three that someone was emulating the PS three Versiones. 922 00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:02.599 Says that it's backwards compatible on Xbox one in series. 923 00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:04.880 Oh is it the on Fire he says, the NBA 924 00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:05.800 Jam on Fire Edition. 925 00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:10.320 He's got no way that's true. That's I mean, if 926 00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:12.639 yeah play with Xbox Series. 927 00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:14.679 There you go, tam, Yeah, there you go. 928 00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:17.199 What When I opened up this slink, it says not 929 00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:21.039 available separately, So I don't know how I actually calves 930 00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:24.159 fan Yeah it's oh yeah, he says, it's been it's 931 00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:26.719 been delisted. For purchase, but if you own. 932 00:44:26.599 --> 00:44:31.760 It, owned it already actually, which also means because the 933 00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:33.039 way they do it that if you have a disc 934 00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:35.480 for three sixty and pop in a series X as well, and. 935 00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:38.079 I'll or I'm out of luck. I think I owned 936 00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:41.159 it for the Wii, so ship, I'm going. 937 00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:43.119 To see if I can buy a disc because I'm 938 00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:45.719 pretty sure I owned it. But it might be like 939 00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:48.719 a regional thing because I owned it when I lived 940 00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:49.519 in London. 941 00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:53.599 It shouldn't be too bad. I mean, I mean, you know, 942 00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:55.480 the fact that it's backward compatible will make it maybe 943 00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:57.519 a little bit more expensive, but it should be affordable. 944 00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:01.159 I bet I won't buy really too late to just 945 00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:03.719 really bring back NBA JAM as kind of a cool 946 00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:04.119 triple A. 947 00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:07.599 No, I think it's definitely it should be something that 948 00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:10.960 people are doing. I don't understand why no one don't. 949 00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:13.360 We don't even get blitz, we don't get SSX, we 950 00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:16.360 don't get uh, we don't get any sort of like 951 00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:19.440 alternative sports of any kind again. 952 00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:21.199 Wherever we get our kidie sports games. And now it's 953 00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:24.679 like either like an indie spiritual successor or it's something 954 00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:26.599 kind of done more cheaply, you. 955 00:45:26.639 --> 00:45:28.760 Know, and that, you know, I think that said like 956 00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:31.119 we we were saying the same thing about arcade racers 957 00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:32.480 a little bit ago, and then we've got a ton 958 00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:35.760 of arcade racers in the last few years. Pretty well. 959 00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:39.199 Space though it is kind of usually yeah, but there's 960 00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:41.000 some one with like the Hot Wheels game, right, seems 961 00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:42.920 like it's like in you know, it's big enough, and 962 00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:46.079 I guess us and Blast it's definitely more indie. 963 00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:48.280 But speaking of that's where you're going and get this 964 00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:51.320 stuff because you know, rath Thrills was the natural extension 965 00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:54.840 from Midway and so that's why they are playing out 966 00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:59.039 these excessive, a little too expensive and sometimes a little 967 00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:02.039 lower quality arecade games, but they are at least trying 968 00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:04.119 to keep the spirit alive there even if they don't 969 00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:06.199 always land, but sometimes they do with stuff like I 970 00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:09.039 think Cruise and Blasts is very fun. Again, I think, 971 00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:11.199 you know how the physics and Cruise and Blasts are 972 00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:15.360 just a little jank, like they're over the top they believe. Yeah, yeah, 973 00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:17.880 that's kind of like that's an example of how like 974 00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:21.000 NBA Superstars feels. It doesn't feel quite right. It's a 975 00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:24.440 little off, but it's I don't know, I would rather 976 00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:26.320 have a bediocre experience than nothing at all. 977 00:46:26.400 --> 00:46:29.039 That's kind of like I'm doing research here and I 978 00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:32.360 think on Fire Edition is the only one that works 979 00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:35.559 backwards compatible. And it was never released as a disc 980 00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:39.679 if I remember correctly, So that's the right. 981 00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:42.280 Yes, you're right, yeah it was. It was the we 982 00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:44.480 that get physical or like a base edition. 983 00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:48.639 Yeah, okay, bollocks, that's how we're going to come on 984 00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:50.039 and welcome to the Jam. 985 00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:55.440 Has a disk what I'm googling right now and I 986 00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:57.159 cannot see a disc version for it? 987 00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:02.079 Anyway, last Sanna gets in on them. If someone can 988 00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:06.840 send me just the base edition was released on disc. 989 00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:08.920 It's an on Fire edition is digital only? 990 00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:10.719 Yeah only? 991 00:47:11.159 --> 00:47:13.840 Yeah, so that's specifically the version that's backwards campatable. 992 00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:15.880 Tell me about Days Gone? Yeah? 993 00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:18.000 Do I have to? I was really stalling with that 994 00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:19.000 last segment, Jeff. 995 00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:22.760 I just okay, here here's what I remember about, oh, 996 00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:23.119 last thing. 997 00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:24.960 Sorry, I started last thing. I'll go watch wrestling with 998 00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:27.480 gamings the story behind NBA Jam for a few weeks. 999 00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:29.559 It's very good. Anyways, we're gonna ask me. 1000 00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:33.280 I remember that there's a man who loves his wife 1001 00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:37.400 and his hog and loves is a strong word. Okay, yeah, 1002 00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:40.320 he did wants to ride him and then he uh, 1003 00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:44.280 there's zombies and then the zombies have a tech where 1004 00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:46.280 there's a bunch of them and you can. 1005 00:47:48.679 --> 00:47:51.440 Yeah, Horde, Horde of Zombies. 1006 00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:55.400 See just sounds may be interesting. I don't know. I 1007 00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:55.920 wouldn't know. 1008 00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:57.719 I got ten hours into the game and didn't really 1009 00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:00.760 see any of that. Holy shit. Okay, yep, you want 1010 00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:06.519 to talk about slow openings, galliy g. This game is 1011 00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:09.039 the most I think. Yeah, it was Mike you saying 1012 00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:12.760 it's a very PS four game. It's like aggressively PS 1013 00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:19.920 four where just it's a survival, stealth, cover shooter, third 1014 00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:25.000 person shooter, open world. They kind of just combined everything 1015 00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:28.639 that we were oversaturated with into one game and put 1016 00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:34.039 a sometimes problematic biker culture skin on top of it all. So, 1017 00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:39.400 the gameplay of Days Gone is fine, it's serviceable. It 1018 00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:43.519 gets good enough that I was having fun with like encounters, 1019 00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:46.760 you know, shooting and everything. I would get my sniper 1020 00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:49.480 rifle for stealthier moments. That was kind of fun. I 1021 00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:52.719 was starting to have fun with the gameplay. But yeah, 1022 00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:55.039 the whore doesn't get introduced until granted, you know, I 1023 00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:57.440 was streaming and our thing, so like you got subtract 1024 00:48:57.480 --> 00:48:59.639 a few hours a game time there, but I was, 1025 00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:01.239 you know, somewhere in the realm of like eight to 1026 00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:04.639 ten hours in and they were just introducing the Horde, 1027 00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:08.440 which was like the focus of that initial reveal trailer. 1028 00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:12.719 That's a problem that is like, yeah, I made this comparison, 1029 00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:15.960 and you know, I'll stand by it's like the dest 1030 00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:19.719 Stranding problem where when you're taking too long to get 1031 00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:24.880 to the meat of what it is, I find that boring. 1032 00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:26.480 Like I get it's wasting your time. 1033 00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:28.480 Yeah, it's wasting my time, like straight up, like I 1034 00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:30.960 get this build up, I get like, you know, artistic 1035 00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:35.000 vision all that. But it was I forget who said. 1036 00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:36.440 But I remember someone back in the day when Dusk 1037 00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:38.519 Stranding came out said, if you have a forty hour 1038 00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:40.760 game where ten hours of it are boring, you made 1039 00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:43.239 a bad game. And I'm not sure I would go 1040 00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:45.760 like quite that strong, but that's kind of the sentiment 1041 00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:47.880 I have and kind of how I feel about Days 1042 00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:51.159 Gone where man, if you like there's flashbacks to this 1043 00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:54.039 action pack sequence where the outbreak first happens, or like 1044 00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:56.119 they're in the middle of the outbreak or whatever. I'm like, 1045 00:49:56.519 --> 00:50:00.159 if that's how it starts gameplay wise, and and then 1046 00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:02.400 you know, sort of like just Last of Us. That's 1047 00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:04.039 kind of something we were saying well streaming, it's like, 1048 00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:06.320 why was this not just like a Last of Us spinoff? 1049 00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:07.960 That's kind of what it feels like to begin with. 1050 00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:11.199 But regardless, if you had started there and then sort 1051 00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:13.639 of like kept ramping up giving me something to like 1052 00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:16.960 hold on to, of like showing me a Horde early 1053 00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:19.880 or something showing me something a little bit more grand 1054 00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:22.559 in the beginning, I would have had more to work with. 1055 00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:25.920 But the fact that you start kind of low key, 1056 00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:30.199 it's a slow intro. They're slowly introducing these characters that 1057 00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:33.639 you're supposed to not like. Like that's the bit is 1058 00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:35.760 that all of these characters kind of suck because Zombie 1059 00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:39.480 Apocalypse everyone kind of sucks it. I saw someone Chad 1060 00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:42.239 just say it gets in its own way, and I 1061 00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:44.119 think it could have been a better game. It was 1062 00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:49.920 just hamstrung by like some of the design around it. Late. 1063 00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:50.559 Yeah. 1064 00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:52.559 Yeah, the worst thing is that we didn't get to 1065 00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:55.639 the freaking wedding flashback. We did a lot of flashbacks, 1066 00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:57.800 but not the wedding with the riding hogs thing. 1067 00:50:57.920 --> 00:50:59.800 Yeah, the icon of what I assumed we would have got. 1068 00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:01.440 That seems like the kind of thing you would get 1069 00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:04.079 to in the first like, you know, eight to ten hours, 1070 00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:08.679 But no, we see this really awkward Hallmark movie meet 1071 00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:14.280 cute scene instead where she almost kills a guy. It's just, yeah, 1072 00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:18.440 a decent gameplay, but I think poorly written game is 1073 00:51:18.679 --> 00:51:19.440 what we ended. 1074 00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:22.679 Up with there. Yeah, that's definitely always the sense I got, 1075 00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:24.760 so not too surprised to hear that, but I mean, 1076 00:51:26.639 --> 00:51:27.920 are you occasionally having fun? 1077 00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:31.280 Like is it like definitely like it took a while 1078 00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:33.159 to get going. It took a while until you know 1079 00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:35.679 it's it is a survival game. I don't expect to 1080 00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:37.840 have access to like a mini gun until like mow 1081 00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:40.119 these things down or anything like that. But it does 1082 00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:42.199 take a little bit for you to get a more 1083 00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:45.639 decent assault rifle or shotgun whichever you want. Upgrade your 1084 00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:48.880 pistol a little bit, get your like long range sniper 1085 00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:51.719 rifle or crossbow that also does well. 1086 00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:52.320 It. 1087 00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:54.800 Yeah, it takes a little bit to get going, but 1088 00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:58.159 once it does, I was actually having fun with the gameplay. 1089 00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:02.159 Yeah, remember that part got my favorite part was the 1090 00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:04.239 enemy set up an ambush for you. So they just 1091 00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:08.880 pushed an empty, on fire exploding card down a hill 1092 00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:11.400 into the road you're going on. But first we're like, 1093 00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:13.880 what the fuck is that? And like it was an ambush. 1094 00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:15.760 It was like, oh, it's acually pretty cool. I was like, oh, yeah, 1095 00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:16.719 that's great stuff. 1096 00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:19.320 That's a cool moment actually where I'm just going from 1097 00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:22.039 point A point B, going to my next objective and 1098 00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:25.079 they actually got in my way in a smart way, 1099 00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:25.760 which the enemy. 1100 00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:28.360 Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. Okay. 1101 00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:30.159 Yeah, So like so it has moments. 1102 00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:33.280 You'd rather play that than Ride to Hell Retribution is 1103 00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:33.800 what I'm hearing. 1104 00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:35.519 Yeah, I guess. 1105 00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:37.440 Okay, that's a tough one. That's a tough question. 1106 00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:38.679 Say that. 1107 00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:41.480 I had more fun watching the days than. 1108 00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:45.480 Stuff was happening. You know, the game was giving me 1109 00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:47.519 stuff to work, right about people. 1110 00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:52.039 With their clothes on and Ride to Hell Retribution days gone. 1111 00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:54.039 Yea, but only the first half they start even that 1112 00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:55.079 doing that. 1113 00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:58.719 The best special effect. They stopped using special effect. 1114 00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:02.000 There you go, it's my that's my book report to 1115 00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:02.400 the class. 1116 00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:07.639 What's the plan now, is it? Well? 1117 00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:10.800 Okay, so just you know, with how we're busy here 1118 00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:13.119 at the end of the year. In particular, I don't 1119 00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:14.760 think we really have time for it. That's why I 1120 00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:18.519 said episode five a day Sean was the season finale, 1121 00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:21.239 not the series finale. If we have time, if we 1122 00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:23.679 need to like fill a slot, like you know, Grubs 1123 00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:26.199 on vacation or something, yeah, we can bring it back. Absolutely, 1124 00:53:26.199 --> 00:53:27.639 because I was having a good enough time. I do 1125 00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:29.719 kind of want to see where it goes gameplay wise, 1126 00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:32.599 so we'll bring it back. I did commit to a playthrough, 1127 00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:35.760 so I'm saying at some point when it works into 1128 00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:37.920 the schedule, yeah, we absolutely bring it back. That was 1129 00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:41.679 book one of the book one exactly what Yeah? 1130 00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:45.760 Yeah, I want to hear about Dragon Quest three HD 1131 00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:47.960 two D Mitch, what's going on there? 1132 00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:52.480 Yeah, I'm pretty deep into this one, now, you know. 1133 00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:52.840 Sure? 1134 00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:55.840 Sorry. I played original Dragon Quest three, the sort of 1135 00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:58.800 mobile port version that's on Switch, which is ugly, but 1136 00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:01.039 I really like that. But boy, this is just so 1137 00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:04.480 much better. It is just the prettiest of the HD 1138 00:54:04.599 --> 00:54:07.880 two D games that I've ever seen, and I think 1139 00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:10.760 they do a really good job of making locations feel bespoke, 1140 00:54:11.079 --> 00:54:13.000 which is a problem you run into in the original 1141 00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:14.679 EIGHTPI games, right, because you're using a lot of the 1142 00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:17.760 same tile sets and whatnot. But kind of one of 1143 00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:20.760 the gimmicks of dragon Quest three is that the overall 1144 00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:24.239 map is just the United States, but slightly different. So, 1145 00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:25.639 like one of the first big cities you go to 1146 00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:28.440 is Romeria, and it's clearly just Rome, but it has 1147 00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:30.559 some of these like Italian flourishes. You go to a 1148 00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:33.199 place that's supposed to be Portugal, it's the same thing, 1149 00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:36.000 And these places do kind of have distinct flavors and 1150 00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:38.519 they do look different, and they have just these really 1151 00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:43.639 pretty areas, like a fountain square that is just absolutely 1152 00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:48.280 glistening and has birds flying by and it's just so 1153 00:54:48.639 --> 00:54:51.599 gosh darn pretty. And then supporting all that is this 1154 00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:57.039 very kind of classic, you could say, basic turn based 1155 00:54:57.239 --> 00:55:00.719 RPG system that I actually do find endearing and if 1156 00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:03.360 you play Dragon Quest it has its own quirks. But 1157 00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:07.280 how stuff works, specifically with the way enemies are grouped up, 1158 00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:11.199 where you can like pure AOI attacks are sometimes a 1159 00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:14.159 bit rare, and that you can attack everybody, so you 1160 00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:16.599 have to kind of really think about who you're attacking. 1161 00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:19.679 You can attack certain groups of enemies at the same 1162 00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:23.159 time your party composition is very important, and this is 1163 00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:25.320 the game where in the very beginning you get to 1164 00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:27.800 pick like who's going to be in your party, you know, 1165 00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:32.519 a warrior of mage that composition matters, and then later 1166 00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:35.360 you can change their job so you can have these 1167 00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:38.480 kind of interesting things like a you know thief, you 1168 00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:41.320 has a bunch of healing spells, that sort of stuff. 1169 00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:43.920 I know Jam was saying, like, you know, it's it's 1170 00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:47.039 a grinding game, and it absolutely is that you are 1171 00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:49.679 going to kind of just reach the next dungeon and 1172 00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:52.079 maybe get your ass kicks and realize I got to 1173 00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:54.039 kind of just go back to town and get some 1174 00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:56.960 levels and get some goals, like and buy new gear. 1175 00:55:57.639 --> 00:56:01.400 I love that shit. I like griding in these games. 1176 00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:06.480 It gives me some weird zen like sense of accomplishments. 1177 00:56:06.719 --> 00:56:08.760 I can just do that and put on some stupid 1178 00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:13.719 YouTube video and that'll be my evening. So there's definitely 1179 00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:15.159 a bit of an old school vibe there that maybe 1180 00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:17.199 not everyone's gonna appreciate, but I'm glad that we can 1181 00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:20.000 still get arbigs like this. They do a lot to 1182 00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:24.119 modernize it, especially in terms of making it more clear 1183 00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:27.199 what you need to do next. The auto saves are 1184 00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:29.280 very generous now, right, so that if you're playing with 1185 00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:31.800 the original on ES version, that could be a big 1186 00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:34.280 pain point. But I'm glad it does still feel like 1187 00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:36.280 an old school jrpg M. 1188 00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:39.760 Yeah, that's definitely with all these HD two D remakes 1189 00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:40.480 should feel. 1190 00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:44.880 Right, Yeah, I think so. I think it's like when 1191 00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:48.360 you have a game like this and you're going to 1192 00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:50.880 remake it like you and you're gonna do all this 1193 00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:53.119 stuff with the HD two D, I think the whole 1194 00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:56.719 point is to still make it feel like the old 1195 00:56:56.760 --> 00:56:58.719 game in a lot of ways. I think you can 1196 00:56:58.880 --> 00:57:02.719 make prune it. You can like treat like a Bonzie 1197 00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:05.320 tree a little bit and fix it up here or 1198 00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:07.679 there a little bit to remove some of the pain. 1199 00:57:08.760 --> 00:57:11.119 But if that was the experience of the game, you 1200 00:57:11.119 --> 00:57:12.840 should be trying to preserve that. And so I'm glad 1201 00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:13.159 to hear that. 1202 00:57:13.239 --> 00:57:16.639 That is, I says in America by actual World. 1203 00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:20.400 You you said an incredible thing that which you may 1204 00:57:20.679 --> 00:57:22.119 be the whitest thing you've ever done. 1205 00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:24.239 I'm dizzy. 1206 00:57:26.119 --> 00:57:34.239 Playing like Ohio, I was, how was the centric of me? 1207 00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:36.119 I was I was gonna let it go to But 1208 00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:37.760 then everyone's like, we should call him out. 1209 00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:41.320 I'm all right, the overworld is the actual our world 1210 00:57:41.440 --> 00:57:44.079 is what I mean by that? Yeah, the world, the 1211 00:57:44.440 --> 00:57:48.840 over world. The shoot Earth in this game is based 1212 00:57:48.920 --> 00:57:52.639 off of the uh no, the work Earth in this game. 1213 00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:57.039 They thought the shoot Earth in real world there. 1214 00:57:57.559 --> 00:57:59.280 Maybe call your dad when you're done here, say doctor, 1215 00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:02.519 I'm dizzy and confusing things up, not feeling. 1216 00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:06.280 I told everybody Dragon Quest three World America. You'll be like, oh, 1217 00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:08.800 you're having a You're you're not doing good. Get over here. 1218 00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:17.559 You're having a stroke, Mike. I keep asking this, But like, 1219 00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:19.360 the more you play it, like it's just like I 1220 00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:22.519 always was curious about Dragon Quest, Dragon Warrior and stuff 1221 00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:24.360 like that. Wanted to check it out. Uh, and this 1222 00:58:24.480 --> 00:58:26.639 one looks so good. I want to play it. But 1223 00:58:26.679 --> 00:58:27.960 it's gonna be one of those where it's like I 1224 00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:29.000 he'll probably bounce off. 1225 00:58:29.639 --> 00:58:31.639 I mean, it's hard to say because it gets going. 1226 00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:33.880 The pace of it is very nice in terms of 1227 00:58:33.960 --> 00:58:37.039 it becoming the game right away, but again, like it 1228 00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:41.000 like it can get difficult. Even when I was grinding 1229 00:58:41.039 --> 00:58:43.559 for a while and I like this, but uh, you know, 1230 00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:46.199 still getting the boss fights. At the end of long dungeons, 1231 00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:48.599 I was like oh yeah, this is still actually a 1232 00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:49.519 precent challenge. 1233 00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:49.960 It's not. 1234 00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:52.800 It's like a lot of final fantasies, and I love them. 1235 00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:54.280 There's a lot of fun faces. You can kind of 1236 00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:56.880 push X to win in a bit, just kind of 1237 00:58:56.920 --> 00:58:59.639 attack attack, do a limit break. You gotta be a 1238 00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:02.719 bit more thoughtful here. I think you probably would like 1239 00:59:02.760 --> 00:59:06.079 that and with it. Yeah, you know, as long as 1240 00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:08.920 you're down with the grinding, turn based battles. I know 1241 00:59:09.039 --> 00:59:11.079 that bristles against some people. I don't mind that, but 1242 00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:15.760 I mean they're definitely here. That's just how the game works. Yeah, 1243 00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:16.159 it's hard to. 1244 00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:16.599 Say, Jeff. 1245 00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:19.199 I think you'd honestly would probably last longer in this 1246 00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:21.960 than a Metaphor, just because you know, Metaphor does have 1247 00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:25.599 a long story based intro and it might ask you 1248 00:59:25.599 --> 00:59:28.840 if you think that fiction can impact reality, and I 1249 00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:30.760 know that you would find that deeply upsetting. 1250 00:59:31.159 --> 00:59:34.079 You're right, I just can't handle that. Just Yeah, I 1251 00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:36.519 did play people are suggesting eleven. I did play it. 1252 00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:39.480 Play quite a bit of eleven on my paternity leave. 1253 00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:42.639 I started that up for some reason, played like fifteen 1254 00:59:42.679 --> 00:59:44.360 hours of it, and I really enjoyed it. I didn't 1255 00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:46.360 go back to it. After paternity leave was over. But 1256 00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:47.159 I enjoyed what I played. 1257 00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:52.840 I thought you didn't love those aggressively old school JRPGs. 1258 00:59:53.519 --> 00:59:55.639 I don't know. I you know, I always you know, 1259 00:59:56.079 --> 00:59:58.000 it's not that I don't like them. I want to 1260 00:59:58.239 --> 01:00:00.880 like them, and then I do case they try to 1261 01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:03.519 play them and it's like, oh, this isn't working for me. 1262 01:00:03.760 --> 01:00:06.519 But I like which one was on the DS? Was 1263 01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:07.760 it nine? That was nine? 1264 01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:08.159 Yeah? 1265 01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:09.519 I liked nine as well. 1266 01:00:09.639 --> 01:00:12.039 I played a bunch of that too, So nine is 1267 01:00:12.159 --> 01:00:15.280 kind of a lot like three A in a quite 1268 01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:16.760 a few ways. Then I think about dragon Quests in 1269 01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:18.880 general is that they're all kind of like each other. 1270 01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:21.559 Dragon Quest has sort of stayed what it is for 1271 01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:23.440 the most part as sorry as from when they made 1272 01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:26.000 that MMO we didn't get. So it's okay, if you 1273 01:00:26.159 --> 01:00:28.519 liked eleven, you're like this, it's dragon Quest though. 1274 01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:30.679 Yeah, I'm gonna give this a shot. It's just the 1275 01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:33.039 problem is so many games and I want to go 1276 01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:35.840 back and start sending some more times in Astrobot, and 1277 01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:38.199 you know, there's just a lot of things taken you 1278 01:00:38.239 --> 01:00:38.440 have to do. 1279 01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:41.480 If you don't beat a thousand your door by the 1280 01:00:41.559 --> 01:00:43.599 time I see you in I know, La, I'm just 1281 01:00:43.639 --> 01:00:44.280 not going to talk to you. 1282 01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:48.840 I know, I know, I'm I'm that is you finished up? Yeah, 1283 01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:51.960 it'll be great. People will love that I'm finishing up 1284 01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:53.840 echoes of wisdom and then a thousands of your doors 1285 01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:55.800 right there. I was like, when I got back from vacation, 1286 01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:59.039 that's the first thing I started working that priorities but okay, yeah, sure, 1287 01:00:59.159 --> 01:00:59.679 no problem. 1288 01:01:02.719 --> 01:01:04.719 I don't already want to talk about this, but. 1289 01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:08.000 Look it's real quick. I beat Kingdom Hearts Too on 1290 01:01:08.119 --> 01:01:11.880 Proud Mode. Yeah, I did, aust you because I started 1291 01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:16.880 it last December. For a word, I was feeling quite 1292 01:01:16.920 --> 01:01:21.280 a lot of pride. I beat it based off the 1293 01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:23.639 save file that I had last December. When I do 1294 01:01:23.800 --> 01:01:29.199 my yearly marathon stream for the Giant Bomb Extra Life campaign, 1295 01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:35.119 it's called Final Mixed miss and this December we're going 1296 01:01:35.159 --> 01:01:40.079 to be playing Kingdom Hearts birth by Sleep for Final 1297 01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:43.800 Mixed Myths. There's only one more Birth by Sleep till Christmas, everybody, 1298 01:01:44.199 --> 01:01:45.920 so I just wanted to get prepped for that and 1299 01:01:46.079 --> 01:01:49.039 get that ready to go. Hey, I like Kingdom Hearts 1300 01:01:49.079 --> 01:01:53.119 Too a whole lot. Still, it is, of course real stupid, 1301 01:01:53.159 --> 01:01:55.960 but I mean, come on, you have whole scenes where 1302 01:01:56.079 --> 01:02:00.119 Christopher Lee is talking to Mickey Mouse and playing it 1303 01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:05.639 that straight. It's in incredible right. You can hear Donald 1304 01:02:05.719 --> 01:02:08.639 Duck say the words Sorah, it's suffer off. 1305 01:02:10.440 --> 01:02:11.760 It's so good. 1306 01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:15.199 Tron is there and he kind of makes me cry 1307 01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:19.559 because he learns about emotions and love and friendship. And 1308 01:02:19.679 --> 01:02:23.039 the combat system is actually super fun in this game. 1309 01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:25.599 It's very fast paced. You kind of you have your 1310 01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:28.400 form shifts and you summon Peter Pan because if you 1311 01:02:28.519 --> 01:02:31.000 get killed when Peter Pan is around, then tinker Bell 1312 01:02:31.199 --> 01:02:33.400 touches your nose and brings you back to life. So 1313 01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:36.719 it's a very very it's the thing you kind of manipulate. 1314 01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:39.039 I'm sorry. That reminds me Emmy's tooth fell out at 1315 01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:41.559 Disney and we told the front desk and tinker Bell 1316 01:02:41.639 --> 01:02:43.159 was her tooth fairy. He left her a note under 1317 01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:43.920 a pillow and stuff. 1318 01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:46.360 It was amazing Disney fucking magic. 1319 01:02:46.519 --> 01:02:51.440 It's raal. I would like to tell the audio listeners 1320 01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:53.800 that TAM's face is slowly turning inward with how. 1321 01:02:57.639 --> 01:03:01.239 Shit how Kingdom hawks wanting too And I think it's 1322 01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:03.639 like one of those games where I finished I was like, 1323 01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:05.679 deeply embarrassed by this. 1324 01:03:09.119 --> 01:03:09.320 Something. 1325 01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:14.840 I like, I'm a Kingdom Hearts fan, but also like, 1326 01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:19.079 I I recognize that it is top to bottom complete 1327 01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:22.679 nonsense bullshite. 1328 01:03:23.519 --> 01:03:24.880 You can go and read my review of it. 1329 01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:28.639 I'm just like, all of this is so cringe, Like 1330 01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:30.639 every second I'm doing this. 1331 01:03:31.760 --> 01:03:34.000 That stuff definitely gets worse. Like my Kingdom Art three, 1332 01:03:34.199 --> 01:03:36.719 it kind of is total nonsense. I could still follow 1333 01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:39.679 it because I'm a sick Oh I'm not proud of 1334 01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:41.880 I'm not proud that I played Keen of Arts three 1335 01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:44.360 and know what's going on. That does actually bring me 1336 01:03:44.440 --> 01:03:46.920 a level of saying, okay, K two as a period. 1337 01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:48.559 I know you never played Key because it was a 1338 01:03:48.639 --> 01:03:51.199 mobile game, but have you played like every other Kingdom Hearts. 1339 01:03:51.280 --> 01:03:54.320 I played every other thing, every other spinoff thing. Key 1340 01:03:54.679 --> 01:03:56.320 the browser game was the one I was like, I 1341 01:03:56.360 --> 01:03:59.599 don't need to play this turns very important to Keen 1342 01:03:59.639 --> 01:04:03.280 of Marts three story fuck yeah, probably very important to 1343 01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:03.760 King of Martes. 1344 01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:07.159 That's about Kingdom Hearts. There's no such thing as a spinoff. 1345 01:04:07.199 --> 01:04:09.440 They are all very can and very important. 1346 01:04:09.639 --> 01:04:11.440 That's why I think a lot of people were kind 1347 01:04:11.480 --> 01:04:13.679 of like upset at Keeno March three because they played 1348 01:04:13.719 --> 01:04:16.880 two and they're like, excuse me, uh well, we don't 1349 01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:19.760 have to worry about all these like fifteen spinoffs or anything. Right, 1350 01:04:19.880 --> 01:04:22.480 Then they play three and it turns out, oh, those 1351 01:04:22.559 --> 01:04:25.559 move the story for very important ways. By the way, 1352 01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:28.119 that last one of the three d yes that introduced 1353 01:04:28.159 --> 01:04:31.760 time travel, So fuck you, that's part of the proceeding. 1354 01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:34.360 Yeah, if you had no frame of reference for who, 1355 01:04:34.440 --> 01:04:37.000 like the fuck Aquay is or whatever, it's just gonna 1356 01:04:37.039 --> 01:04:39.199 be like, what does any of this mean? 1357 01:04:39.320 --> 01:04:39.519 Man? 1358 01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:40.119 What is. 1359 01:04:42.280 --> 01:04:42.719 By sleep? 1360 01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:42.960 Miss? 1361 01:04:43.079 --> 01:04:45.880 You're gonna learn all about Aqua then and Tara. It's 1362 01:04:45.880 --> 01:04:46.440 gonna be great. 1363 01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:50.840 I also like remember going back and and like I 1364 01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:55.039 remember during the Kingdom Hearts too, like days when people 1365 01:04:55.159 --> 01:04:59.119 were just losing their ship over how much they love 1366 01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:01.199 Axel And I was. 1367 01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:06.679 Like, yeah, what this is the most two tires and 1368 01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:08.360 he drives around. He's cool. 1369 01:05:08.440 --> 01:05:11.760 Like the moment I saw him, I was like, this 1370 01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:17.039 character looks like dog ship. What is this character? He's 1371 01:05:17.159 --> 01:05:21.079 like a bad like reject character from Bleach. And I 1372 01:05:21.199 --> 01:05:22.960 was like, fucking hell. 1373 01:05:24.519 --> 01:05:27.239 Watch Bleach and I know exactly what you mean. 1374 01:05:27.760 --> 01:05:31.000 I was gonna say, he's like a bad rejected early 1375 01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:31.840 versus Squall. 1376 01:05:32.079 --> 01:05:36.559 But yeah, exactly, it's just like, oh god, this is 1377 01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:37.119 so bad. 1378 01:05:37.280 --> 01:05:39.840 But the best thing it's just Reno from f Fantasy 1379 01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:41.679 seven even as the same Well, that's true. 1380 01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:43.880 The best thing that Kingdom Hearts has given us is 1381 01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:47.440 Daily Beloved, like the and Yo Koshimamura's music. 1382 01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:48.119 The music. 1383 01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:50.880 That's the thing that even Jeff over here while saying. 1384 01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:56.119 Just playing through it, all the all the boss themes 1385 01:05:56.159 --> 01:05:59.239 and all these emotional beats. Oh even like at the end, 1386 01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:01.960 there's like a part where they're straighted in the darkness 1387 01:06:02.039 --> 01:06:04.199 of course and in the world like the dward and 1388 01:06:04.239 --> 01:06:06.679 the light shows up and it's cheesy. But then they 1389 01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:10.440 played the orchestrated version of Dearly Beloved. It's like, oh, oh, 1390 01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:11.039 never mind. 1391 01:06:11.119 --> 01:06:12.599 It's like my heart is meling. 1392 01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:17.440 I don't want to exploding because Memora is one of 1393 01:06:17.519 --> 01:06:18.880 the greatest thozers ever. 1394 01:06:19.239 --> 01:06:22.159 I'm not afraid to say I cried like a fucking 1395 01:06:22.280 --> 01:06:24.760 baby when that smash trailer happened, and I'm like, I 1396 01:06:24.840 --> 01:06:27.880 don't want to Soura is a little I hate this 1397 01:06:28.079 --> 01:06:30.480 guy now, Butler. 1398 01:06:30.800 --> 01:06:34.320 I remember going to the preview event for Kingdom Hearts three. 1399 01:06:34.559 --> 01:06:37.079 It was in La where we first got to play 1400 01:06:37.159 --> 01:06:40.599 it and like sitting down and putting the headphones on, 1401 01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:44.159 and then like going into the game and daily beloved 1402 01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:47.039 playing over the title screen. I remember just sitting there 1403 01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:50.239 and feeling like overwhelmed with an emotion of how much 1404 01:06:50.320 --> 01:06:53.360 I love that song. And then I started playing. I 1405 01:06:53.440 --> 01:06:57.039 was like, what the fuck is going on? And then 1406 01:06:57.079 --> 01:06:59.920 someone came over and gave me a seesaw ice cream popsicle. 1407 01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:00.719 Was like one of these. 1408 01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:02.880 I was like, hell, yeah, I do ible. 1409 01:07:03.039 --> 01:07:05.440 We were we were both there. We didn't know each other, 1410 01:07:05.559 --> 01:07:06.000 we didn't know. 1411 01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:19.159 I yeah, Grob tell us about hot video game, perhaps 1412 01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:21.199 one of the game of the Contender's Rise of the 1413 01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:22.000 Golden Idol. 1414 01:07:22.920 --> 01:07:24.960 Yeah, you know, with the travel I had to put 1415 01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:27.159 everything down. I brought my Steam deck, which was an 1416 01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:28.880 insane thing to do. It sat in my suitcase the 1417 01:07:28.920 --> 01:07:31.079 whole time. But I, you know, played a little bit 1418 01:07:31.079 --> 01:07:32.920 before I left. It is the other thing I picked 1419 01:07:32.960 --> 01:07:36.079 up when I got back, and uh I still, yeah, 1420 01:07:36.239 --> 01:07:39.239 I'm really really happy with it. I think that all 1421 01:07:39.400 --> 01:07:41.320 of the extra sort of you know, the way the 1422 01:07:41.360 --> 01:07:44.920 game works is you discover the words in the world 1423 01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:47.119 by clicking on various things, and then you fill those 1424 01:07:47.159 --> 01:07:50.119 words into the story to solve each of the crimes 1425 01:07:50.159 --> 01:07:54.039 the scenes, but each scene now also has several other 1426 01:07:54.119 --> 01:07:56.760 things usually that you could fill in, like I'm doing 1427 01:07:56.760 --> 01:07:58.400 I just did the auction and it's like you need 1428 01:07:58.480 --> 01:08:01.039 to figure out what was actually being auctioned off and 1429 01:08:01.199 --> 01:08:04.000 who it got sold to. And I like the process 1430 01:08:04.079 --> 01:08:06.599 of figuring that these things out makes me feel more 1431 01:08:07.199 --> 01:08:11.599 more aware of what's happening in the story overall, but 1432 01:08:11.679 --> 01:08:14.320 also helps lead to that final solution and then to 1433 01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:18.239 the actual chapter. Each chapter, like it has several scenes 1434 01:08:18.279 --> 01:08:20.439 in it, they want you to solve that as well 1435 01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:22.520 and say, here's what's happening in the story, and it 1436 01:08:22.600 --> 01:08:24.600 makes it easier for me to remember all that stuff. 1437 01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:26.960 And I'm just I'm into the lore. I really like 1438 01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:30.119 this universe that they that they've built here where you know, 1439 01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:32.880 these all these people are going after the Golden Idol 1440 01:08:32.960 --> 01:08:35.359 for its magical capabilities, and now it's been around for 1441 01:08:35.399 --> 01:08:37.880 a long time and it's been lost and and people 1442 01:08:38.199 --> 01:08:39.520 like don't even know if it's real or if it 1443 01:08:39.600 --> 01:08:41.680 ever was magical in the first place. But there's some 1444 01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:44.279 people who do know and they're aware, and like there's 1445 01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:46.920 this you know, the characters from the first game, like 1446 01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:48.920 are like looming over it, Like I don't, I don't. 1447 01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:50.520 I don't know if they're gone and dead for real. 1448 01:08:50.600 --> 01:08:53.159 Maybe they are. I'm still figuring that stuff out, but 1449 01:08:53.279 --> 01:08:55.319 I just like, if one of them pops up, I'm 1450 01:08:55.359 --> 01:08:57.439 gonna pop And when I see the Golden Idol do 1451 01:08:57.520 --> 01:09:01.479 its thing, I'm gonna be so excited. But playing the game, 1452 01:09:01.560 --> 01:09:05.199 it's still just that game where I love this genre 1453 01:09:05.359 --> 01:09:08.239 of letting me play games in my head, and every 1454 01:09:08.319 --> 01:09:11.039 single scene is just as fun as the last. There's 1455 01:09:11.039 --> 01:09:14.880 some really standout ones, but I have enjoyed every single 1456 01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:18.479 solve so far, and I just appreciate the game, like 1457 01:09:18.600 --> 01:09:21.479 trust the player enough to do this? I think. I think, 1458 01:09:21.560 --> 01:09:23.479 I think it'd be very hard to be like to 1459 01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:25.119 make these games in the first place, to be like, 1460 01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:27.279 can this work? Are enough people going to be able 1461 01:09:27.319 --> 01:09:30.239 to like take what they see here, what I would, 1462 01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:32.199 what I put in here, all these clues? Are they 1463 01:09:32.199 --> 01:09:33.720 going to understand what I'm trying to get at? And 1464 01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:35.520 it turns out, yeah, a lot of people not just 1465 01:09:35.640 --> 01:09:38.199 like get it, they really enjoy that definitely want to. 1466 01:09:38.319 --> 01:09:43.239 I'm interested in whether you think that people who haven't 1467 01:09:43.239 --> 01:09:47.520 played Case can enjoy Rise given how much of the 1468 01:09:47.640 --> 01:09:51.359 low and characters you love about it. I personally think 1469 01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:54.600 that people who have just like a basic desire or 1470 01:09:54.880 --> 01:09:57.479 an interest or like of puzzle games will enjoy it. 1471 01:09:57.640 --> 01:10:01.039 But how much do you think that that law and 1472 01:10:01.159 --> 01:10:03.439 character element plays into the overall enjoyment. 1473 01:10:05.319 --> 01:10:07.640 So I think it would It will work this way. 1474 01:10:07.840 --> 01:10:09.880 If you just want to be on the zeitgeist and 1475 01:10:09.880 --> 01:10:12.279 we want to go play this one first, you can 1476 01:10:12.359 --> 01:10:14.520 do that and you'll enjoy it, and if you want 1477 01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:16.960 more of that game, you can then go back to Case. 1478 01:10:17.159 --> 01:10:19.159 And I think it would work like as a two 1479 01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:22.399 way street of Oh, all these characters that we're in 1480 01:10:22.479 --> 01:10:25.159 here that they're referencing, there's actually a history there, and 1481 01:10:25.199 --> 01:10:27.359 now I'm getting to discover it in the reverse direction, 1482 01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:30.720 because it is like it feels like that stuff just exists. 1483 01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:32.840 It feels like a real history like in the in 1484 01:10:32.920 --> 01:10:35.600 the backdrop to what you're doing in the gameplay, and 1485 01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:38.239 so kind of piecing that stuff together as you learn 1486 01:10:38.279 --> 01:10:40.600 it yourself can work in any direction, So I think 1487 01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:44.560 it would be completely fine. And yeah, I would almost 1488 01:10:44.600 --> 01:10:46.479 be interested to hear what someone who did that would 1489 01:10:46.479 --> 01:10:47.239 think about all of it. 1490 01:10:47.399 --> 01:10:50.479 Yeah, It might be me because I never played the 1491 01:10:50.840 --> 01:10:53.199 first game, but I want to check this out. I 1492 01:10:53.359 --> 01:10:55.720 do have a question about that kind of magic stuff 1493 01:10:55.720 --> 01:10:58.479 you're talking about, because I played Obra Din and I 1494 01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:01.359 liked it. What one of my complaints was that is 1495 01:11:01.399 --> 01:11:03.880 this game where I'm supposed to use logic to solve mysteries, 1496 01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:08.199 but there's also this magic element that obviously exist outside 1497 01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:11.600 the realm of logic. So sometimes kind of bristle against 1498 01:11:11.640 --> 01:11:14.079 that because I'm like, well, if magic's involved in anything, 1499 01:11:14.119 --> 01:11:15.920 can happen and I don't really know how to account 1500 01:11:15.960 --> 01:11:19.079 for it. Does that sort of impact your detective skills 1501 01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:19.880 in this game? 1502 01:11:20.479 --> 01:11:23.720 No, because you're almost always dealing with like people want 1503 01:11:23.760 --> 01:11:26.520 to use the magic to do things, and you know, 1504 01:11:26.640 --> 01:11:28.399 this is more of a case so far because I'm 1505 01:11:28.399 --> 01:11:31.640 I'm at a part in a student in Rise where 1506 01:11:33.279 --> 01:11:34.800 a lot of that stuff has not come about yet. 1507 01:11:34.840 --> 01:11:37.560 They're still trying to piece together the Golden Idol. But 1508 01:11:38.079 --> 01:11:41.119 and you know, in Case, it was always yeah, maybe 1509 01:11:41.159 --> 01:11:44.560 they're going to use this statue to do something magical, 1510 01:11:44.680 --> 01:11:47.119 but you're gonna you will have piece together how it works. 1511 01:11:47.239 --> 01:11:50.960 There is a logic, yes, the statue itself, and you 1512 01:11:51.439 --> 01:11:54.359 Figuring that out is part of piecing together the logic, 1513 01:11:54.680 --> 01:11:58.239 and then the motivations, the actions, the things that people 1514 01:11:58.279 --> 01:12:01.479 do to one another are all so huge and recognizable 1515 01:12:01.840 --> 01:12:04.640 that that will be the real meat of solving any case, 1516 01:12:04.760 --> 01:12:07.279 and so you should not have many stumbling blocks when 1517 01:12:07.279 --> 01:12:07.680 it comes to that. 1518 01:12:07.840 --> 01:12:11.079 I think the real quick just looking at the how 1519 01:12:11.159 --> 01:12:13.760 long to be case of going idols six hours on average, 1520 01:12:13.800 --> 01:12:14.560 so like these are. 1521 01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:19.319 Yeah, yeah, I think you'll each scene in about you know, 1522 01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:21.399 thirty minutes, forty five minutes. Yeah. 1523 01:12:21.479 --> 01:12:25.520 I think the concern that like Micheal kind of speaking 1524 01:12:25.600 --> 01:12:29.199 about is the it harkens back to old school like 1525 01:12:29.279 --> 01:12:32.319 point click adventure games where nonsense is kind of factored 1526 01:12:32.399 --> 01:12:35.600 into it the whole, like you know, combine the rubber 1527 01:12:35.680 --> 01:12:38.359 chicken with a rope to make a polly kind of 1528 01:12:38.439 --> 01:12:41.720 like nonsense logic. It doesn't have that as far as 1529 01:12:41.800 --> 01:12:43.960 I know where I am and you that, like like 1530 01:12:44.079 --> 01:12:47.479 grub said, the magic has its own logical kind of 1531 01:12:47.640 --> 01:12:50.479 set of rules that you can apply, and the way 1532 01:12:50.520 --> 01:12:53.239 you kind of figure it out is by factoring the 1533 01:12:53.600 --> 01:12:56.079 motivations of characters and that kind of stuff like that. 1534 01:12:56.520 --> 01:12:59.359 So it's not like you very rarely will be like 1535 01:12:59.439 --> 01:13:01.680 there was no I could have guessed that, and the 1536 01:13:01.760 --> 01:13:04.159 only way forward was for me to read something. The 1537 01:13:04.520 --> 01:13:07.720 solution is logical for the most part, so. 1538 01:13:08.439 --> 01:13:10.760 Right, and you're gonna like you're gonna pick up on 1539 01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:12.960 stuff like just looking at the scene and you know, 1540 01:13:13.119 --> 01:13:15.680 kind of like I never played much La Noir, but 1541 01:13:15.720 --> 01:13:17.159 I know the whole thing is like this character is 1542 01:13:17.199 --> 01:13:19.159 making a face and you're supposed to read something into that. Well, 1543 01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:23.680 these characters are making one face static scene, and if 1544 01:13:23.720 --> 01:13:26.079 you're like this, I feel like I feel like this 1545 01:13:26.399 --> 01:13:29.239 means this. You're probably right. Yeah, You're probably right, and 1546 01:13:29.319 --> 01:13:32.079 you should follow that thread through and see if it 1547 01:13:32.199 --> 01:13:34.439 like leads to something that is some discovery and it 1548 01:13:34.760 --> 01:13:35.279 probably does. 1549 01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:37.520 No Dan record in this game though. 1550 01:13:38.720 --> 01:13:41.560 As far as I'm aware, wistfully now, Yeah. 1551 01:13:41.800 --> 01:13:43.720 A lot a lot of things you say about though, 1552 01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:45.880 I feel like maybe I'm off based. I feel like 1553 01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:49.479 there's some Ace Attorney DNA in here where like it's 1554 01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:53.439 sort of stand alone and like there's magic, but logic prevails, 1555 01:13:53.520 --> 01:13:55.000 like the magic has kept in check. 1556 01:13:55.079 --> 01:13:58.520 Yeah, and I feel like it's less less like magic 1557 01:13:59.039 --> 01:14:03.319 weirdness focus than the as Tony series is even okay. 1558 01:14:03.079 --> 01:14:04.800 Right, but like as the turner will do stuff like, oh, 1559 01:14:04.840 --> 01:14:07.039 there's people who can summon the spirits of the dead 1560 01:14:07.039 --> 01:14:08.920 and they turn into them. Yeah, and like sometimes I 1561 01:14:08.960 --> 01:14:10.880 can throw it off, but again there's there's a logic 1562 01:14:10.960 --> 01:14:11.319 to that that. 1563 01:14:11.399 --> 01:14:13.720 They exactly even though it's just like, well, now that 1564 01:14:13.880 --> 01:14:15.479 person is just here, we're just gonna talk to him 1565 01:14:15.560 --> 01:14:17.920 like they're a normal person, you know, exactly. 1566 01:14:18.119 --> 01:14:18.319 Yeah. 1567 01:14:18.680 --> 01:14:22.119 I highly recommend everyone if you have an interesting puzzle games, 1568 01:14:22.199 --> 01:14:24.960 checks out Rise or even case like I think that. 1569 01:14:25.199 --> 01:14:27.119 Yeah, there's some of the DC case. 1570 01:14:27.479 --> 01:14:29.399 I think there's some of the coolest, most fun games. 1571 01:14:29.399 --> 01:14:33.199 They are on Netflix included with your account right now. Yes, 1572 01:14:33.399 --> 01:14:34.840 you don't need to buy them. You have them if 1573 01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:36.000 you have Netflix. Yeah. 1574 01:14:36.319 --> 01:14:38.159 Yeah, we know Mike has that because he watched the 1575 01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:40.960 Tyson Fight and he was very enthralled by it. Oh. 1576 01:14:41.520 --> 01:14:43.159 I recently found out I do not have Netflix. I 1577 01:14:43.199 --> 01:14:45.279 was trying to watch something on Netflix recently, and I 1578 01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:46.840 was like, do I have Netflix? I don't think. I 1579 01:14:46.880 --> 01:14:48.880 hope I don't because I haven't tried logging in there. 1580 01:14:49.960 --> 01:14:51.279 I'd be very surprised if you did. 1581 01:14:52.239 --> 01:14:52.279 No. 1582 01:14:52.600 --> 01:14:52.640 No. 1583 01:14:53.159 --> 01:14:55.560 Last night I was watching an old documentary from the 1584 01:14:55.640 --> 01:14:58.239 nineties about dinosaurs. I'm like, this info probably isn't up 1585 01:14:58.279 --> 01:15:00.600 to date, but I like how it's from the nineties. 1586 01:15:03.479 --> 01:15:06.680 We're gonna take a quick break and then come back 1587 01:15:06.760 --> 01:15:12.600 with some news, and we are back. I have some 1588 01:15:12.800 --> 01:15:17.199 terrible news for everyone. I turned on my Xbox Series 1589 01:15:17.479 --> 01:15:20.880 X and went to my full library. I do not 1590 01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:21.960 own NBA. 1591 01:15:21.800 --> 01:15:23.520 JAM on Fire Edition, Bloody. 1592 01:15:23.520 --> 01:15:24.079 I'm sorry. 1593 01:15:25.119 --> 01:15:27.720 I'm devastated. I don't know if there's no way for 1594 01:15:27.800 --> 01:15:31.359 me to purchase it anymore. Obviously I feel like it. 1595 01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:34.640 I wonder if I could, Like, I'm going to send 1596 01:15:34.680 --> 01:15:37.239 an email and see if, like someone at Xbox can 1597 01:15:37.319 --> 01:15:40.319 ask Phil Spencer to just have it assigned to my account. 1598 01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:43.000 Right and push the button. Film. 1599 01:15:43.039 --> 01:15:46.399 I know you can do this, Phil. Now, there's clearly 1600 01:15:46.479 --> 01:15:48.119 no other way I can play NBA JAM. 1601 01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:51.359 No, definitely on that new Mac Mini or anything. 1602 01:15:51.479 --> 01:15:52.920 No way. 1603 01:15:54.319 --> 01:15:56.560 But if you see me playing NBA HM in the future, 1604 01:15:56.600 --> 01:15:57.840 don't ask any questions about it. 1605 01:15:58.399 --> 01:15:59.199 That's what I'm saying. 1606 01:15:59.279 --> 01:16:02.399 All Right, we're gonna go over to see a pig 1607 01:16:02.680 --> 01:16:03.960 your best not squeal. 1608 01:16:06.399 --> 01:16:09.359 News coming from Games Indus right up is VGC Kataky 1609 01:16:09.439 --> 01:16:13.520 Pug and all. We're gonna kick Elba to our resident 1610 01:16:13.800 --> 01:16:17.319 News Pava Jeff Grub that's me. 1611 01:16:17.720 --> 01:16:22.479 Let's talk about the news. Yeah, all right, let's start. 1612 01:16:22.560 --> 01:16:24.760 Let's start here with the Witcher four has entered full 1613 01:16:24.880 --> 01:16:28.640 scale production. CD Project says A CD Project has confirmed 1614 01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:31.680 that production on the fourth Witcher game, code named Polaris, 1615 01:16:32.079 --> 01:16:34.520 has officially begun. The game is currently the furthest along 1616 01:16:34.600 --> 01:16:37.560 in development among all of the company's projects, and is 1617 01:16:37.720 --> 01:16:43.199 entering its most intensive phase. Game director Sebastian Kalimba expressed 1618 01:16:43.279 --> 01:16:45.560 excitement about the game's progress and thanked the team for 1619 01:16:45.600 --> 01:16:49.119 their hard work. Yeah, I mean, got it. How long 1620 01:16:49.159 --> 01:16:50.760 has it been since Cyberpunk came out? 1621 01:16:51.920 --> 01:16:53.720 It was twenty twenty four years? 1622 01:16:54.119 --> 01:16:54.960 Yeah, four years. 1623 01:16:55.279 --> 01:16:57.520 Yeah, it's about time they released a new game now. 1624 01:16:57.560 --> 01:16:59.199 They did have Liberty that seemed to be taking a 1625 01:16:59.279 --> 01:17:00.399 lot of their time, even. 1626 01:17:00.239 --> 01:17:02.800 Like expanded a whole bunch as well, right, because they 1627 01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:05.439 have from like a American in office and such a 1628 01:17:05.479 --> 01:17:06.760 different bunch of teams and. 1629 01:17:07.720 --> 01:17:11.239 Wild I can't believe Witcher three was nine years ago, 1630 01:17:11.640 --> 01:17:14.800 because you know, again, we've been here for a while now. 1631 01:17:14.880 --> 01:17:16.600 But it's like, wow, games have not changed that much 1632 01:17:16.600 --> 01:17:19.479 in nine years. Huh, Yeah, I mean that's forever Witcher. 1633 01:17:19.239 --> 01:17:21.760 Three is definitely like one of those uh uh like 1634 01:17:21.960 --> 01:17:24.720 games that I think about where it's like, at at 1635 01:17:24.800 --> 01:17:27.319 that point they just stopped being like, oh, if a 1636 01:17:27.399 --> 01:17:29.319 game was before this, it's old. It's like, no, witch 1637 01:17:29.399 --> 01:17:30.600 Er three is just going to be sort of that 1638 01:17:30.640 --> 01:17:32.640 one of those timeless games now and everything after that 1639 01:17:32.880 --> 01:17:33.520 is in that zone. 1640 01:17:33.560 --> 01:17:36.600 It's like Skyro basically, yes, yes, yes. 1641 01:17:36.680 --> 01:17:38.479 They all kind of started around that time and then 1642 01:17:38.520 --> 01:17:41.000 kind of built up to like twenty fifteen twenty sixteen 1643 01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:42.840 where every game now came and out was like you 1644 01:17:42.880 --> 01:17:45.600 could release that with like a few changes in twenty 1645 01:17:45.680 --> 01:17:47.680 twenty four and no one would really bad an eye. 1646 01:17:47.840 --> 01:17:52.199 Yeah yeah, So, I mean, God, making a big sequel 1647 01:17:52.319 --> 01:17:56.640 to uh Witcher three seems like a tall task. I 1648 01:17:56.680 --> 01:17:57.960 don't know, what do you guys expect from it? What 1649 01:17:58.000 --> 01:17:58.560 do you want from it? 1650 01:17:58.680 --> 01:18:02.399 Well? I suspect that Siri is probably gonna have a 1651 01:18:02.399 --> 01:18:05.800 bigger focus here, maybe just straight up be the main character. 1652 01:18:06.279 --> 01:18:09.439 There's that teaser image that has like that cat medallion 1653 01:18:09.560 --> 01:18:13.000 or links medallion, which apparently is probably a reference to 1654 01:18:13.079 --> 01:18:16.279 her wearing a school with the cat medallion in the 1655 01:18:16.359 --> 01:18:18.800 books or something like that. You played us are a 1656 01:18:18.840 --> 01:18:20.680 little bit in three, and even like the story at 1657 01:18:20.720 --> 01:18:23.520 the end of three very much kind of was wrapping 1658 01:18:23.560 --> 01:18:25.479 up Girl's story in a lot of ways and sort 1659 01:18:25.479 --> 01:18:28.640 of setting the stage for Siri. So that would probably 1660 01:18:28.680 --> 01:18:30.760 be an interesting place to take it. But you know, otherwise, 1661 01:18:30.760 --> 01:18:33.520 I don't think you have to change too much gameplay 1662 01:18:33.600 --> 01:18:36.720 wise or even formula wise. From what Wicher three was doing. 1663 01:18:36.800 --> 01:18:38.039 It seemed to hit pretty well. 1664 01:18:38.119 --> 01:18:39.760 Do you think they can move on from Carol? 1665 01:18:41.399 --> 01:18:44.760 It's difficult, right, because there's so many reasons why that 1666 01:18:44.800 --> 01:18:46.840 will be hard for people, people who love garyl. There's 1667 01:18:46.880 --> 01:18:49.439 gonna you know, there's there's gonna be some other annoying 1668 01:18:49.560 --> 01:18:50.159 aspects of. 1669 01:18:52.199 --> 01:18:54.680 These days, right, And I like, for me, I think 1670 01:18:54.720 --> 01:18:57.359 the smart like what I would love is like a 1671 01:18:58.279 --> 01:19:00.520 almost male guest olid two sew thing where it's like, 1672 01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:03.640 you don't you play a Siri, but Girl is the 1673 01:19:04.399 --> 01:19:06.520 way that you you don't get to play as him 1674 01:19:07.479 --> 01:19:09.279 for the majority of the game, but you get to 1675 01:19:09.399 --> 01:19:13.680 witness why he's so cool from the outside. Looking for that, 1676 01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:16.359 I would but then those I feel like. 1677 01:19:16.760 --> 01:19:19.600 It was killed Girl in the first three hours with 1678 01:19:19.680 --> 01:19:20.239 a golf club. 1679 01:19:20.359 --> 01:19:26.800 Yeah, have Abby do it? 1680 01:19:27.720 --> 01:19:27.920 Yes? 1681 01:19:29.560 --> 01:19:33.720 From the top rope God going around and killing every 1682 01:19:33.880 --> 01:19:37.079 like she's she's like in the. 1683 01:19:37.159 --> 01:19:40.399 One where she just goes through different dimensions killing dads. 1684 01:19:41.760 --> 01:19:42.960 Yeah, it's incredible. 1685 01:19:43.119 --> 01:19:46.119 Yeah, gosh, that would be incredible. Yeah, maybe they could 1686 01:19:46.159 --> 01:19:49.720 do a dual protagonist thing like Spider Man two kind 1687 01:19:49.760 --> 01:19:51.840 of like, yeah, it can work. It could be a 1688 01:19:52.600 --> 01:19:54.720 I don't know if I love that as much as 1689 01:19:54.920 --> 01:19:57.199 just having the one or you know, the one with 1690 01:19:57.319 --> 01:19:59.840 like a little bit of a side thing here and there. 1691 01:20:00.479 --> 01:20:03.520 I mean, it'd be nice if you could have garyl 1692 01:20:03.600 --> 01:20:04.880 be there and be important to the story but not 1693 01:20:05.039 --> 01:20:08.359 necessarily be the player character. Yeah, I think it's difficult. 1694 01:20:08.399 --> 01:20:11.560 It depends on the on the fiction because like with 1695 01:20:11.640 --> 01:20:15.079 Spider Man, it clearly works because uh, Miles is being 1696 01:20:15.119 --> 01:20:18.039 built up as this next generation of Spider Man and 1697 01:20:18.279 --> 01:20:20.960 like I'm not I'm not a Witcher guy because I'm 1698 01:20:21.039 --> 01:20:23.000 just not a high fancy guy in general. But it 1699 01:20:23.039 --> 01:20:24.800 seems like that's kind of what's going on here where 1700 01:20:25.119 --> 01:20:27.920 Gerald is like you know, training up Seria or whatever 1701 01:20:28.039 --> 01:20:30.199 is going on there. Yeah, they have in the fiction 1702 01:20:30.319 --> 01:20:32.880 built up both characters. It wouldn't be a shock if 1703 01:20:32.920 --> 01:20:35.840 you're doing dual protagonists or like you know, mostly Serio 1704 01:20:35.920 --> 01:20:36.199 or whatever. 1705 01:20:36.359 --> 01:20:38.439 I feel like by the end of Witcher three, she's 1706 01:20:38.680 --> 01:20:43.800 pretty formidable as a as a like fight and Witcher 1707 01:20:43.920 --> 01:20:47.000 risque character as far as I know, because like. 1708 01:20:47.039 --> 01:20:50.720 They take on the wall and win, so like I 1709 01:20:51.079 --> 01:20:56.319 yea special she can she has a dimensioned portals. 1710 01:20:57.439 --> 01:20:59.920 I want them to old Snake girl and make him 1711 01:21:00.119 --> 01:21:02.920 like older. I know that there's weird ship that with 1712 01:21:03.039 --> 01:21:05.760 the witches, like you know, blood and shit like that 1713 01:21:05.880 --> 01:21:07.880 that prevents them from it aging. I think it is 1714 01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:10.039 something crazy like that. I don't know, maybe I'm getting wrong, 1715 01:21:10.119 --> 01:21:16.159 but like yeah, or oil of oldly, but like I 1716 01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:20.319 would love to see like a like an older Wiser 1717 01:21:20.680 --> 01:21:23.239 kind of like out of the Action almost old man 1718 01:21:25.319 --> 01:21:29.560 Kratos or Logan or whatever version of it where you 1719 01:21:29.640 --> 01:21:32.920 play it as Siri or a Siri like figure or 1720 01:21:32.960 --> 01:21:36.199 even like a completely new person. And then like at 1721 01:21:36.279 --> 01:21:40.039 some point, like girl has to be like this kid's 1722 01:21:40.079 --> 01:21:42.720 not listening. I know, I'll send out to someone else 1723 01:21:42.840 --> 01:21:46.399 and then like that's when Siri appears to report is 1724 01:21:46.520 --> 01:21:50.680 like what's I'm the old you know apprentice, let me 1725 01:21:50.680 --> 01:21:51.640 show you how things are done. 1726 01:21:53.039 --> 01:21:57.720 Apparently the voice actor for GARYL. Doug Cockle like as 1727 01:21:57.760 --> 01:21:59.600 already said like, oh, yeah, I'm coming back, but like, 1728 01:21:59.720 --> 01:22:01.920 I'm not going to be the main character. And I mean, 1729 01:22:01.960 --> 01:22:04.520 if it's not garyl, it's got to be Sirie. You're 1730 01:22:04.520 --> 01:22:08.520 going to bring some third persons. Not going to be rating. 1731 01:22:09.800 --> 01:22:10.439 Kids, can they? 1732 01:22:12.439 --> 01:22:21.960 Witchers are very steris, don't work so much, unprotected sex constantly. 1733 01:22:22.079 --> 01:22:23.800 Yea having a great time. 1734 01:22:25.479 --> 01:22:28.000 But yeah, I just know a lot about Witcher's penis 1735 01:22:28.079 --> 01:22:29.840 and balls Joe. 1736 01:22:33.920 --> 01:22:35.760 They are very happy to tell us about. 1737 01:22:38.279 --> 01:22:39.840 But yeah, that would be I would love to see. 1738 01:22:39.880 --> 01:22:41.920 I'm excited to see what the future of the Witcher is. 1739 01:22:43.319 --> 01:22:45.079 Yeah, I'm excited to go back to that. You think 1740 01:22:45.079 --> 01:22:47.159 they just have Went again and they try to do 1741 01:22:47.239 --> 01:22:49.720 a new thing. We're going to get the Witcher's version 1742 01:22:49.800 --> 01:22:51.199 of Tetra Master or whatever. 1743 01:22:51.359 --> 01:22:53.399 I feel like they bring back Gwent and add some 1744 01:22:53.600 --> 01:22:57.279 like new fucking fantasy taking random polls and like ship 1745 01:22:57.479 --> 01:22:57.640 like that. 1746 01:22:59.159 --> 01:23:08.279 Yeah, yeah, will be card packs for sure. Uh okay. 1747 01:23:08.560 --> 01:23:12.640 Sony is planning a new PlayStation handheld. It has been 1748 01:23:12.840 --> 01:23:16.800 claimed by Bloomberg. Sony's reportedly developing a new PlayStation portable 1749 01:23:17.079 --> 01:23:20.920 capable of playing PlayStation five games. The devices in early 1750 01:23:21.039 --> 01:23:24.600 stages of development and could take years to release. We're 1751 01:23:24.640 --> 01:23:28.399 talking three maybe four. Console aims to expand Sony's reach 1752 01:23:28.479 --> 01:23:30.720 and compete with the Nintendo in the portable gaming market. 1753 01:23:30.840 --> 01:23:32.920 It doesn't have Pokemon, so good luck with that. It 1754 01:23:32.960 --> 01:23:36.359 could build on the recently launched PlayStation Portal, which the 1755 01:23:36.920 --> 01:23:39.920 streams PS five games the cloud. Just recently it started 1756 01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:44.159 doing that. Actually, Uh, the upcoming console would face competition 1757 01:23:44.239 --> 01:23:47.119 obviously from Valve and a bunch of others. They're gonna 1758 01:23:47.720 --> 01:23:50.640 you know, or they'll still be using a MD so 1759 01:23:50.880 --> 01:23:52.279 you know, that's going to take some time for those 1760 01:23:52.319 --> 01:23:57.399 chips to get powerful and efficient enough to make that happen. Yeah. 1761 01:23:57.439 --> 01:24:00.079 I get why they're researching this and looking in to 1762 01:24:00.119 --> 01:24:02.039 it and probably getting pretty serious about it. But the 1763 01:24:02.119 --> 01:24:04.199 story does mention this might never come out. 1764 01:24:04.760 --> 01:24:07.399 Yeah, and also like that this time is weird, right, 1765 01:24:07.479 --> 01:24:10.119 Like if they say a few years, does that mean 1766 01:24:10.199 --> 01:24:16.119 it it launches like alongside a new console or. 1767 01:24:16.520 --> 01:24:20.239 Yeah, that seemed weird to me too. But with each 1768 01:24:20.279 --> 01:24:23.520 of these consoles, the era of cross generation games like 1769 01:24:23.680 --> 01:24:26.399 that extransers period is longer and longer, to the point 1770 01:24:26.479 --> 01:24:29.119 with a PlayStation six, like, I don't know if there 1771 01:24:29.159 --> 01:24:33.000 will ever be PlayStation six exclusive games right, like almost 1772 01:24:33.119 --> 01:24:35.640 all of those at least for like the first four years, 1773 01:24:35.680 --> 01:24:38.560 are going to also play in PlayStation five. So it's 1774 01:24:38.640 --> 01:24:41.119 it's fine if your portable system quote unquote is a 1775 01:24:41.199 --> 01:24:44.199 PlayStation five, it'll still play the same games as a PlayStation. 1776 01:24:44.359 --> 01:24:45.960 Are we both because what are we all reading this 1777 01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:50.479 as they're making a separate device that is PlayStation focused 1778 01:24:50.520 --> 01:24:53.600 potentially or do you think this is perhaps the first 1779 01:24:53.760 --> 01:24:57.880 indication that the next iteration of the PlayStation is more 1780 01:24:58.039 --> 01:25:00.600 like what Nintendo strategy is and there's less of a 1781 01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:01.359 boundary that. 1782 01:25:03.039 --> 01:25:05.199 I mean, I guess it's not impossible because but I 1783 01:25:05.680 --> 01:25:08.319 just think that Sony would really needs to have a 1784 01:25:08.399 --> 01:25:11.920 PS six as their next device is well, because that's 1785 01:25:11.920 --> 01:25:12.479 what the audience. 1786 01:25:13.039 --> 01:25:15.840 I think maybe it could be a two skew approach 1787 01:25:15.960 --> 01:25:19.159 some similar to what Microsoft is currently doing this generation. 1788 01:25:19.880 --> 01:25:23.159 But so there's a lot to unpack here, because the 1789 01:25:23.439 --> 01:25:26.359 chips that are available in mobile devices right now are 1790 01:25:26.439 --> 01:25:29.600 not nearly powerful enough to run PS five games at 1791 01:25:29.600 --> 01:25:35.960 PSI quality, and you you can't they could theoretically, it 1792 01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:38.119 would be a really dumb thing to do, is if 1793 01:25:38.159 --> 01:25:41.159 they put out a game that runs PS five games 1794 01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:44.600 but at a lower equality because that doesn't exist right 1795 01:25:44.680 --> 01:25:48.960 now within their pipeline. Developers would need to make entirely 1796 01:25:49.159 --> 01:25:52.439 new versions of games in order to run on that chipset. 1797 01:25:52.520 --> 01:25:54.720 If it was a it was lower in power than 1798 01:25:54.720 --> 01:25:58.720 a PS five, So PS five needs to be the baseline. 1799 01:25:58.760 --> 01:26:01.920 If is running PS five games that I don't know 1800 01:26:02.039 --> 01:26:04.119 when we're going to get to that, So that would 1801 01:26:04.119 --> 01:26:04.520 be wild. 1802 01:26:04.640 --> 01:26:07.760 I know, people like, it's not it's not that powerful. 1803 01:26:08.479 --> 01:26:11.039 It's not compared to like a mainstream gaming PC in 1804 01:26:11.079 --> 01:26:11.880 twent twenty four. 1805 01:26:12.199 --> 01:26:14.680 But it's the mobile chips we're talking about. Compared to 1806 01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:19.520 the ally Yeah, no, what Apple's doing with with the 1807 01:26:19.760 --> 01:26:23.319 you know ARM, Yeah, for sure, that is what different. 1808 01:26:23.600 --> 01:26:26.319 That is what makes things interesting because that is what 1809 01:26:26.600 --> 01:26:29.680 Microsoft is absolutely going to be doing for their what 1810 01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:32.520 they're doing because they are the masters of backwards compatibility 1811 01:26:32.680 --> 01:26:36.119 in the console space right now, Windows is also getting 1812 01:26:36.239 --> 01:26:40.359 good at backwards compatibility, so Microsoft kind of has that lockdown. 1813 01:26:40.479 --> 01:26:43.079 They'll be able to figure it out, especially because they 1814 01:26:43.159 --> 01:26:46.680 have developers making Series S versions which you know already 1815 01:26:47.119 --> 01:26:50.079 lower resolution, lower frame rates, whatever the case may be, 1816 01:26:50.640 --> 01:26:53.720 that could theoreically run on a handheld within a couple 1817 01:26:53.760 --> 01:26:57.039 of years. I have no idea how Sony would pull 1818 01:26:57.079 --> 01:26:59.800 this off if they even can within a couple of years. 1819 01:26:59.840 --> 01:27:03.239 So maybe it is like maybe the PS six also 1820 01:27:03.439 --> 01:27:06.600 transitions to arm, like maybe the arm tips get good 1821 01:27:06.720 --> 01:27:09.439 enough and then they put an arm chip in this 1822 01:27:09.640 --> 01:27:12.560 like handheld. I'm really curious to see how they could 1823 01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:13.119 pull it off. 1824 01:27:13.399 --> 01:27:15.319 Yeah, I think it's important that they do all this 1825 01:27:15.680 --> 01:27:18.079 R and D for this because the we're gonna need 1826 01:27:18.119 --> 01:27:21.479 one of these eventually. It's gonna be difficult me to 1827 01:27:21.560 --> 01:27:23.560 do with the tech we have now or even in 1828 01:27:23.880 --> 01:27:27.439 a few years, but like ten years from now, if 1829 01:27:27.479 --> 01:27:30.000 you're in the video game space making hardware, you're gonna 1830 01:27:30.039 --> 01:27:34.439 have to have a handheld or hybrid skew. I think 1831 01:27:34.479 --> 01:27:36.600 this switch is just kind of made that whole thing 1832 01:27:36.760 --> 01:27:39.119 too popular to ignore it. So my Microsoft is investing 1833 01:27:39.159 --> 01:27:41.800 in it, so many PC manufacturers are investing in it. 1834 01:27:41.880 --> 01:27:45.680 Yeah, I mean, why they're chasing Nintendo again kind of, 1835 01:27:46.319 --> 01:27:48.640 I think they'll be to a. 1836 01:27:48.680 --> 01:27:52.520 Degree they're chasing Nintendo. I don't think they are. I 1837 01:27:52.560 --> 01:27:55.960 feel like it's not entirely Nintendo chase. I feel like 1838 01:27:56.199 --> 01:27:59.479 what Nintendo did was they figured out where the market 1839 01:27:59.640 --> 01:28:02.640 was going before anyone else did, and reacted to that. 1840 01:28:03.239 --> 01:28:06.159 I think now we're at the point where the other 1841 01:28:06.399 --> 01:28:10.359 major you know, platform holders are now in a situation 1842 01:28:10.439 --> 01:28:13.000 where they can't ignore where the market is going and 1843 01:28:13.079 --> 01:28:16.800 where the demand is. And obviously as other companies lean 1844 01:28:16.920 --> 01:28:21.119 into it, like Valve leaning into it and ass and. 1845 01:28:21.199 --> 01:28:25.560 Then Valve proved that you could follow. Yeah, yeah, burned 1846 01:28:25.600 --> 01:28:27.640 the path. That's what I was like, we're gonna try 1847 01:28:27.680 --> 01:28:30.119 to and and they, oh, wait, they could do it, 1848 01:28:30.159 --> 01:28:31.800 We could do it. They didn't think they could do 1849 01:28:31.840 --> 01:28:34.399 it if only Nintendo was doing because they had learned. 1850 01:28:34.239 --> 01:28:36.560 Right, it makes that's a good way of puting it. 1851 01:28:36.680 --> 01:28:37.920 That's That's more of what I was trying to get 1852 01:28:37.960 --> 01:28:41.039 at is that Nintendo saw where things were going for 1853 01:28:41.319 --> 01:28:43.960 them because their handhelds were doing so well and they 1854 01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:46.039 were struggling with the consoles, so they leaned into the 1855 01:28:46.119 --> 01:28:50.800 handheld and they were like, there's already a trend happening 1856 01:28:51.399 --> 01:28:54.359 slowly but surely with handhelds game more powerful, and handheld 1857 01:28:54.399 --> 01:28:57.039 PCs were starting to become a thing. Nintendo cat just 1858 01:28:57.119 --> 01:29:01.119 made the first really elegant mainstream device, and other companies 1859 01:29:01.199 --> 01:29:04.279 saw that they could follow in that trend here, and 1860 01:29:04.359 --> 01:29:06.640 I think they've been burn enough times, and they're smart 1861 01:29:06.720 --> 01:29:09.520 enough now to not have a WE style situation where 1862 01:29:09.880 --> 01:29:13.279 they're just rapidly rushing to you know, push out their 1863 01:29:13.399 --> 01:29:17.600 Wei competitor, their WE remote competition. I think that's why 1864 01:29:17.720 --> 01:29:20.720 we're hearing rumblings of this maybe a few years in future, 1865 01:29:20.760 --> 01:29:24.319 because they're actually thinking about how this could happen. Is 1866 01:29:24.399 --> 01:29:27.399 also an even bigger risk than just tacking our motion 1867 01:29:27.520 --> 01:29:28.920 control to your existing system. 1868 01:29:29.359 --> 01:29:33.159 It's interesting if this does become an avenue they chase. 1869 01:29:33.239 --> 01:29:37.000 I'm interested to see how they approach the kind of 1870 01:29:37.479 --> 01:29:41.920 attitude shift that needs to happen towards PlayStation to make 1871 01:29:42.039 --> 01:29:44.960 that possible. Because right now, obviously they laying the groundwork 1872 01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:48.319 by making a lot of their major titles PC you know, 1873 01:29:48.520 --> 01:29:54.640 availability incompatible, But from a general kind of overall approach, 1874 01:29:54.720 --> 01:29:56.960 I feel like they need to be a little more 1875 01:29:57.079 --> 01:30:01.239 platform agnostic going forward. If they want to have a 1876 01:30:01.399 --> 01:30:06.199 device that is smaller and relies on a you know, 1877 01:30:06.319 --> 01:30:12.479 more easily available and publicly accessible architecture, they need to 1878 01:30:13.279 --> 01:30:16.840 make sure that, you know, the PlayStation fan base is 1879 01:30:16.960 --> 01:30:19.479 okay with the idea of their game coming out and 1880 01:30:19.600 --> 01:30:23.199 being immediately playable on another device that might not be 1881 01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:26.680 this the core PlayStation, and I feel like that's going 1882 01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:30.000 to be a major challenge because they all struggling. Yeah, 1883 01:30:30.119 --> 01:30:33.720 I mean like the PlayStation even today, like everyone starts 1884 01:30:33.800 --> 01:30:38.119 moaning and complaining about a game that's on PC too 1885 01:30:38.199 --> 01:30:42.159 close to its release date on a PlayStation, So that's. 1886 01:30:42.119 --> 01:30:45.000 Kind to be a different than yeah, And I think 1887 01:30:45.039 --> 01:30:46.800 that that audience, even if they are okay with that, 1888 01:30:46.880 --> 01:30:48.520 they'll be they'll bristol the idea of what you were 1889 01:30:48.520 --> 01:30:50.359 saying earlier about, Hey, this thing is still just going 1890 01:30:50.439 --> 01:30:52.119 to be on PS fives. I just bought a PS six. 1891 01:30:52.159 --> 01:30:54.119 Why am I buying a PS six? But they just 1892 01:30:54.159 --> 01:30:56.520 got to realize it's you know, the main difference between 1893 01:30:56.520 --> 01:30:58.359 the PS four and the PS five is one has 1894 01:30:58.399 --> 01:31:00.520 an SSD. Yes, it's more powerful, but the thing that 1895 01:31:00.600 --> 01:31:03.520 is really making a difference is the SSD. The PS 1896 01:31:03.520 --> 01:31:06.960 six PS five are almost probably gonna have very similar SSDs. 1897 01:31:07.920 --> 01:31:10.159 They're not going to need to up update that tech 1898 01:31:10.239 --> 01:31:12.319 all that much coming out of the PS five and 1899 01:31:12.479 --> 01:31:15.000 so the difference is going to be even smaller. And 1900 01:31:15.079 --> 01:31:18.840 I think for Sony, the trouble with this strategy because 1901 01:31:19.319 --> 01:31:21.880 you want to have a handheld because it can get 1902 01:31:22.439 --> 01:31:25.600 growth in different audiences than buy a box that go 1903 01:31:25.720 --> 01:31:28.640 under a TV. And Nintendo has proven that that audience 1904 01:31:28.840 --> 01:31:31.439 has a lot of like women in it, and Sony's 1905 01:31:31.479 --> 01:31:33.399 not necessarily making a lot of games I think that 1906 01:31:33.520 --> 01:31:38.640 appeal to a broader audience. And I think that, you know, 1907 01:31:38.680 --> 01:31:41.600 when Nintendo's having success there and they're selling a lot 1908 01:31:41.720 --> 01:31:47.119 of Mario Kart and Pokemon and Animal Crossing and attracting 1909 01:31:47.159 --> 01:31:50.960 a different audience, can Sony make games like that? I 1910 01:31:51.239 --> 01:31:54.399 don't know, And so like they might get they'll get 1911 01:31:54.439 --> 01:31:55.840 growth there, but it's not gonna be the growth that 1912 01:31:55.840 --> 01:31:57.920 they're expecting. So they will still need to have a 1913 01:31:58.039 --> 01:32:00.760 multi platform approach that very much compasses PC. 1914 01:32:01.039 --> 01:32:02.960 That's a good point because if you're trying to get 1915 01:32:03.119 --> 01:32:05.399 more of an audience, you do need to appeal to 1916 01:32:05.680 --> 01:32:09.520 a wider demographic. And let's be real, a lot of 1917 01:32:09.600 --> 01:32:12.520 what PlayStation has been for the past decade now has 1918 01:32:12.680 --> 01:32:15.520 been you know, as we call them, the sad dad games. 1919 01:32:15.520 --> 01:32:17.600 You know, they're like open world games, kind of why 1920 01:32:17.640 --> 01:32:20.159 I was describing with Days Gone at the top, Days 1921 01:32:20.239 --> 01:32:24.680 Gone is almost made this a little harsh, but almost 1922 01:32:24.720 --> 01:32:28.319 like a parody of a PlayStation game in that everything 1923 01:32:28.479 --> 01:32:31.880 people complain about PlayStation games was put into there and 1924 01:32:32.199 --> 01:32:34.119 they need to move away from that. I think they 1925 01:32:34.159 --> 01:32:37.119 are doing good things with like Spider Man is a 1926 01:32:37.119 --> 01:32:40.319 little more fun than that, and then obviously we had Astrobot, 1927 01:32:40.479 --> 01:32:43.720 but also Astrobot. You know, you look at who they're 1928 01:32:43.760 --> 01:32:46.520 selling too, and they're selling that to PS five owners. 1929 01:32:46.880 --> 01:32:50.560 It's not selling particularly well with PS five owners. 1930 01:32:50.560 --> 01:32:54.000 It's not a breakout hit, right, like it's doing very 1931 01:32:54.039 --> 01:32:55.720 successful three D platform right. 1932 01:32:55.800 --> 01:32:58.439 It's doing all right within the genre, but it is 1933 01:32:58.680 --> 01:33:02.640 not like overnight that ten million selling hit that PlayStation 1934 01:33:02.840 --> 01:33:05.960 wants with these games, where the games that look like 1935 01:33:06.039 --> 01:33:10.399 Prestige TV cost him to sell that number to that audience. 1936 01:33:10.520 --> 01:33:14.560 So it's yeah, it's a it's a difficult situation that 1937 01:33:14.600 --> 01:33:18.319 they're in. I'm curious to see how they changed their output, 1938 01:33:18.479 --> 01:33:21.319 especially now they don't have stuff like Japan Studio anymore. 1939 01:33:22.039 --> 01:33:27.760 Uh, Well, PlayStation knows what women want from software games 1940 01:33:28.600 --> 01:33:32.000 and from software parent kata Kawa confirms Sony has sent 1941 01:33:32.159 --> 01:33:35.600 it a letter of intent to acquire it. Kata Kawa, 1942 01:33:35.680 --> 01:33:38.800 from Software's parent company, has received a letter of intent 1943 01:33:38.880 --> 01:33:42.920 from Sony expressing interest in acquiring the company. In acquiring 1944 01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:46.119 the company. Talks between Sony and Katakawa were previously reported 1945 01:33:46.159 --> 01:33:49.079 by Reuters. Kata Kawa acknowledges that the initial letter of 1946 01:33:49.159 --> 01:33:51.560 intent has been sent to them, but emphasizes that no 1947 01:33:51.680 --> 01:33:53.159 decision has been made yet. 1948 01:33:53.560 --> 01:33:55.000 I love how threatening this sounds. 1949 01:33:55.720 --> 01:33:56.199 Uh huh. 1950 01:33:59.159 --> 01:33:59.600 Do to you? 1951 01:34:00.199 --> 01:34:04.520 Yeah, we're gonna fuck you up. Yeah, I hate Oh boy. 1952 01:34:04.560 --> 01:34:06.000 If I had a bunch of money and we've had 1953 01:34:06.039 --> 01:34:08.399 a console and had to like spend it to like 1954 01:34:08.520 --> 01:34:10.960 make that console a better place for people to play games, 1955 01:34:11.039 --> 01:34:12.439 I would want from software too. 1956 01:34:14.039 --> 01:34:18.680 If I buy from software, I would buy from exactly. 1957 01:34:18.840 --> 01:34:19.079 Yeah. 1958 01:34:19.600 --> 01:34:22.039 I will say, that's absolutely not why this is happening. 1959 01:34:22.279 --> 01:34:26.000 This is Sony, the anime company in twenty twenty four, 1960 01:34:26.159 --> 01:34:26.520 wanting to. 1961 01:34:29.279 --> 01:34:31.960 A bunch more going on. Right, Yeah, I'm completely unfamiliar 1962 01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:34.279 with Katakaw. So enlighten me in the audience. 1963 01:34:34.840 --> 01:34:37.880 They are anime and manga. His point, like, they are 1964 01:34:37.960 --> 01:34:41.640 one of the companies that is that stuff, and so 1965 01:34:41.800 --> 01:34:43.840 Sony is trying to acquire them. You know they already 1966 01:34:43.920 --> 01:34:47.359 have in terms of distribution Frenchy Role and Fundamation. Well 1967 01:34:47.399 --> 01:34:50.560 Fundamation now just is Crunchy role. They own Aniplex, one 1968 01:34:50.560 --> 01:34:53.680 of the biggest like I guess you'd say publishers of anime. 1969 01:34:54.119 --> 01:34:57.159 So they they are like just doubling down and slowly 1970 01:34:57.359 --> 01:34:58.279 getting all of. 1971 01:34:58.439 --> 01:35:02.560 The the games portion of their business is it, Like 1972 01:35:02.760 --> 01:35:08.079 it's minuscule compared to pretty much they have like from Spike, 1973 01:35:08.199 --> 01:35:12.000 chun Soft, I think ACCHOIIR and those are the big ones, 1974 01:35:12.960 --> 01:35:14.640 and they have I think it's like a sixty six 1975 01:35:14.840 --> 01:35:18.359 percent ownership share and in from but like that's still 1976 01:35:18.399 --> 01:35:20.399 a significant part of it. But the rest of it, 1977 01:35:20.640 --> 01:35:24.159 like their public the publication of manga and and like 1978 01:35:24.239 --> 01:35:28.760 book material and their animation and and like streaming ability 1979 01:35:28.840 --> 01:35:32.359 on that kind of stuff is immense, Like it's huge. 1980 01:35:33.239 --> 01:35:38.119 And in a recent earnings report, in a conversation with investors, 1981 01:35:38.560 --> 01:35:42.880 the CEO that's not Hermanholst of PlayStation said that they 1982 01:35:42.920 --> 01:35:45.399 wanted to lean more on the anime ips that they had, 1983 01:35:46.479 --> 01:35:50.159 so that to do this is the strategy, Like that 1984 01:35:50.359 --> 01:35:52.960 is a huge like so them like like doubling down 1985 01:35:53.000 --> 01:35:54.439 on the strategy is not too surprising. 1986 01:35:55.039 --> 01:35:59.560 But regardless, they would own from stare at least like 1987 01:35:59.640 --> 01:36:02.319 most of it would be the result of that. I mean, 1988 01:36:02.840 --> 01:36:04.840 could would they be in there as much scrutiny as 1989 01:36:04.840 --> 01:36:09.520 Microsoft was certain things would just want to release these. 1990 01:36:09.479 --> 01:36:11.800 Games in the Japanese company by the Japanese company. 1991 01:36:11.880 --> 01:36:15.000 Yeah, I feel like it doesn't have the kind of 1992 01:36:15.119 --> 01:36:18.159 like mainstream juice around it to to warrant that kind 1993 01:36:18.199 --> 01:36:21.600 of scrutiny. And also like I don't think people consider 1994 01:36:22.319 --> 01:36:25.680 you know, dark Souls or whatever from makes to be 1995 01:36:25.960 --> 01:36:29.199 on the level of something like a call of duty, which, 1996 01:36:29.279 --> 01:36:31.960 if we're being honest, was the main kind of you know, 1997 01:36:32.159 --> 01:36:39.279 sparked that kind of illegal battle. But it does have 1998 01:36:39.439 --> 01:36:42.159 implications on people who care about video games. There is 1999 01:36:42.199 --> 01:36:45.479 a very real possibility that you know, so Ony locks 2000 01:36:45.600 --> 01:36:48.439 up the from software games. It would be in there 2001 01:36:48.479 --> 01:36:49.159 as possible. 2002 01:36:49.640 --> 01:36:51.880 However, but does that I mean, would that make sense 2003 01:36:51.880 --> 01:36:53.319 if you were it does not make. 2004 01:36:57.039 --> 01:36:58.640 You have to think of it in this The way 2005 01:36:58.680 --> 01:37:01.880 I think of it is like hopefully Sony is smart 2006 01:37:01.960 --> 01:37:04.399 enough to know that they have like an MLB situation 2007 01:37:04.560 --> 01:37:08.159 here where it's like it's obviously MLB is like there's 2008 01:37:08.319 --> 01:37:12.680 actual license issues that prevent them from like exclude keeping 2009 01:37:12.720 --> 01:37:15.279 it exclusive. But in a similar way, like the reason 2010 01:37:15.760 --> 01:37:18.199 that's such an easy pill to swallow for them is 2011 01:37:18.319 --> 01:37:22.680 because MLB is popular, so so popular that anyone with 2012 01:37:22.840 --> 01:37:25.439 any sort of kind of gaming device is going to 2013 01:37:25.479 --> 01:37:27.319 be interested in buying that kind of thing if they 2014 01:37:27.359 --> 01:37:29.960 have an interest in baseball. I think it's a similar 2015 01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:33.840 thing where the universal nature of or the broader interest 2016 01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:37.199 around from software's games mean that if they were to 2017 01:37:37.319 --> 01:37:38.920 lock them up, I don't think that they were to 2018 01:37:39.039 --> 01:37:42.479 make enough of a benefit or enough of a gain 2019 01:37:43.199 --> 01:37:47.399 in the exclusivity to off Segary. The potential it has 2020 01:37:47.520 --> 01:37:50.239 for broader penetration, it would be stupid of them to 2021 01:37:50.319 --> 01:37:52.319 do that. That's not to say they wouldn't do it, 2022 01:37:52.520 --> 01:37:55.039 but it would be very the possibilities there. 2023 01:37:55.159 --> 01:37:57.560 But that's kind of what I got at when this 2024 01:37:57.680 --> 01:37:59.840 news is first announcement we were talking about their day 2025 01:38:00.439 --> 01:38:03.359 was I don't think there's a brand association there. It's 2026 01:38:03.439 --> 01:38:07.159 not like with Insomniac, where Insomniac made some games for 2027 01:38:07.199 --> 01:38:09.840 olar systems, but primarily they were like the Ratchet and 2028 01:38:09.920 --> 01:38:12.600 Clank studio and also you know, in more recent times, 2029 01:38:12.640 --> 01:38:15.680 the Spider Man studio for PlayStation that is selling them 2030 01:38:15.720 --> 01:38:20.279 where it makes sense to make them a PlayStation developer 2031 01:38:20.520 --> 01:38:23.760 for their consoles and also PC, whereas with this it's 2032 01:38:23.840 --> 01:38:27.199 like they could lock some of that stuff down. Whether 2033 01:38:27.199 --> 01:38:30.319 it be from Soft or acquire whoever. But because those 2034 01:38:30.840 --> 01:38:34.199 games are associated with be multiplatform or even with other systems, 2035 01:38:34.239 --> 01:38:36.840 you all acquire stuff they're you know, deeply on like 2036 01:38:37.000 --> 01:38:40.479 Nintendo consoles. They made Mario and Luigi Brothership, right, So 2037 01:38:41.079 --> 01:38:43.520 I think I think it's gonna be one of those 2038 01:38:43.560 --> 01:38:46.039 situations where, yeah, like you were saying with MLB, they 2039 01:38:46.359 --> 01:38:50.239 they know that it's smarter to just do the numbers, 2040 01:38:50.279 --> 01:38:52.000 and if it just makes more sense to keep that 2041 01:38:52.000 --> 01:38:55.000 stuff multiplatform or wherever they currently are, they'll just keep 2042 01:38:55.079 --> 01:38:56.920 doing that and then just read the rewards of it. 2043 01:38:57.399 --> 01:38:59.800 The other thing that complicates the situation is in the 2044 01:38:59.840 --> 01:39:03.600 case of like Activision. Activision developed and publish their own games, 2045 01:39:03.680 --> 01:39:06.680 whereas we're from Software, a lot of their games are 2046 01:39:06.680 --> 01:39:09.359 published by other companies, like the Elden Ring is published 2047 01:39:09.359 --> 01:39:13.600 by Bandy Namco and Sekiro is published by Activision. Dark 2048 01:39:13.680 --> 01:39:17.359 Cels is also a Bandy Namco joint, so it would 2049 01:39:17.439 --> 01:39:21.880 be tricky for them to to kind of like snap. 2050 01:39:21.640 --> 01:39:24.479 That up and like and I think like band probably 2051 01:39:24.479 --> 01:39:26.039 has like right of first refuge. 2052 01:39:25.760 --> 01:39:28.920 Yes exactly, Like yeah, exactly, and same for like Elder Ring, 2053 01:39:29.000 --> 01:39:31.159 Like if there's more Elder Ring happening. You best believe 2054 01:39:31.159 --> 01:39:34.279 that band Namco has already locked down their kind of 2055 01:39:34.479 --> 01:39:36.600 like stake in that, and for them to be like, oh, 2056 01:39:36.680 --> 01:39:40.039 Elden Rings exclusive to PlayStation now, that would be a 2057 01:39:40.239 --> 01:39:43.800 monumental thing because they would have to negotiate that with 2058 01:39:43.960 --> 01:39:46.680 Bandy Namco, and I imagine Bandy Namco is not going 2059 01:39:46.760 --> 01:39:48.840 to make that easy or cheap on them. The only 2060 01:39:48.880 --> 01:39:52.880 thing they really have control over is Bloodborne, which you 2061 01:39:52.920 --> 01:39:55.479 know is a soundy property, and demon Souls. But like 2062 01:39:55.560 --> 01:39:58.159 they've they're in a position now too. If they wanted 2063 01:39:58.199 --> 01:40:00.239 to do something with that already, they could do it. 2064 01:40:00.319 --> 01:40:02.279 They just don't have an interest in doing it right now. 2065 01:40:02.720 --> 01:40:09.800 Yeah, yep, and it's not happening. Yeah, yep. Virtual Fighter 2066 01:40:09.880 --> 01:40:13.520 five is getting a steamer remaster called Virtual Fighter five Revos. 2067 01:40:15.239 --> 01:40:17.920 Is this a like an update of a previous update? 2068 01:40:17.960 --> 01:40:18.720 Is my understanding? 2069 01:40:18.880 --> 01:40:19.039 Yeah? 2070 01:40:19.079 --> 01:40:23.600 Yeah, Showdown or whatever it's called, The Ultimate Showdown is 2071 01:40:23.640 --> 01:40:26.359 the news, Jeff? Can you keep writing a little bit here? 2072 01:40:26.359 --> 01:40:28.800 It's okay, Yeah, let's keep it. The remaster will have 2073 01:40:28.880 --> 01:40:31.920 four K visuals, updated textures, and rollback net code for 2074 01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:35.760 improved online play. Sega describes it as the Ultimate addition 2075 01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:38.199 of the classic three D Fighter, it will feature classic 2076 01:40:38.600 --> 01:40:42.159 Virtual Fighter modes like arcade and rank Match, custom online 2077 01:40:42.199 --> 01:40:45.840 tournaments in leagues, and spectator mode. Sega's head of trans 2078 01:40:45.920 --> 01:40:48.560 media hinted that a new Virtual Fighter game is also 2079 01:40:48.800 --> 01:40:50.000 in development. 2080 01:40:49.520 --> 01:40:51.680 And they they hint on the official Sega account. They 2081 01:40:51.880 --> 01:40:55.199 were like, well, they had just a text document pulled 2082 01:40:55.279 --> 01:40:57.640 up with the word Sega listed over now and they're 2083 01:40:57.680 --> 01:40:59.680 like spotted the difference in one of almost Sego but 2084 01:40:59.840 --> 01:41:02.600 the was a six, So they're clearly teasing that Virtual 2085 01:41:02.600 --> 01:41:05.119 of Fighter six is also a thing that will be happening. 2086 01:41:05.479 --> 01:41:08.000 But yeah, what this is is Virtual Fighter five came 2087 01:41:08.039 --> 01:41:12.279 out a long time ago. It was a decently early 2088 01:41:12.439 --> 01:41:15.840 thousand and six. Yeah, god, decently. Yeah, So like very 2089 01:41:15.920 --> 01:41:19.159 early PS three game, got a three to sixty version, 2090 01:41:19.279 --> 01:41:22.359 got a few updates, eventually turned into Final Showdown in 2091 01:41:22.439 --> 01:41:25.960 what like twenty twelve, and then it got remade into 2092 01:41:26.119 --> 01:41:29.720 Ultimate Showdown as a PS four exclusive with their like 2093 01:41:30.279 --> 01:41:34.039 kind of weird server based net code is was their solution. 2094 01:41:34.319 --> 01:41:37.159 So it was like an in between of as we 2095 01:41:37.239 --> 01:41:40.399 call it, delay based net code and rollback. So this 2096 01:41:40.680 --> 01:41:44.239 coming to Steam is getting that actual rollback that everyone 2097 01:41:44.359 --> 01:41:47.119 wants it's getting, you know, is spruced up a little bit. 2098 01:41:47.479 --> 01:41:49.960 It's important that they are actually balancing it this first time. 2099 01:41:49.960 --> 01:41:52.399 They're kind of touching the gameplay of Virtual Fighter five 2100 01:41:52.439 --> 01:41:54.920 in a long time, because that remake that RGG did 2101 01:41:55.199 --> 01:41:58.520 was just a remake up. It otherwise played the same. 2102 01:41:58.720 --> 01:42:00.479 I think there were a few like things with the 2103 01:42:00.600 --> 01:42:03.119 engine that caused things to play out differently. But it's 2104 01:42:03.239 --> 01:42:05.399 just really cool that they are going back and sort 2105 01:42:05.399 --> 01:42:08.119 of you know, sprucing up Virtue Fire five, making it 2106 01:42:08.279 --> 01:42:10.680 so much more accessible with rollback neck o, so like 2107 01:42:10.760 --> 01:42:14.560 people can play across the world now and maybe leading 2108 01:42:14.640 --> 01:42:16.159 into a Virtual Fire six. 2109 01:42:16.960 --> 01:42:19.720 The world is just better when Virtual Fighter is going concern. 2110 01:42:20.079 --> 01:42:22.039 I just I'm so much happier when I see when 2111 01:42:22.039 --> 01:42:24.159 I look around there's more Virtual Fighter happening. I just, 2112 01:42:24.560 --> 01:42:27.560 you know, early gaming memories of like Virtual Fighter being 2113 01:42:27.640 --> 01:42:28.399 so important and like. 2114 01:42:28.359 --> 01:42:29.840 I see, that's how we know you're old. 2115 01:42:30.600 --> 01:42:33.479 Yeah, what was it? Like, Well, there was one picture 2116 01:42:33.479 --> 01:42:34.960 in a magazine, it might have been virtuale Fighter two 2117 01:42:35.079 --> 01:42:37.800 or three of like what's his name, just like moving 2118 01:42:37.840 --> 01:42:40.039 his jacket and the jacket physics, and I'm like, oh 2119 01:42:40.159 --> 01:42:43.800 my god, damn jacket physics, it's all happening. So yeah, 2120 01:42:43.880 --> 01:42:45.880 Virtue Fighter is important, definitely. 2121 01:42:45.960 --> 01:42:48.600 I'm excited. It's I've not really played the game since 2122 01:42:48.640 --> 01:42:51.479 I think that vanilla version keeping on and put policeation 2123 01:42:51.479 --> 01:42:53.640 in three. I liked it. I remember thinking it was 2124 01:42:53.680 --> 01:42:57.359 incredibly complex, but I'm certainly in the mood for that, 2125 01:42:57.520 --> 01:43:00.520 especially I like taking eight, but some of it flash 2126 01:43:00.560 --> 01:43:03.239 your elements sometimes almost get a little tiresome, like I 2127 01:43:03.319 --> 01:43:05.960 hate I hate the super moves and teching it right, 2128 01:43:06.720 --> 01:43:11.439 So a bit more us to the ground fighting, boots 2129 01:43:11.520 --> 01:43:14.479 to the ground fighting would be good. Like Sean said, 2130 01:43:14.479 --> 01:43:17.279 I think it's great to release this, get people excited, 2131 01:43:17.399 --> 01:43:21.560 refamiliarize them with Virtual Fighter leading up to the eventual 2132 01:43:21.640 --> 01:43:22.840 release of a Virtual Fighter s. 2133 01:43:23.039 --> 01:43:25.960 Yeah, and it's also just good to have more people 2134 01:43:26.039 --> 01:43:27.760 in the space. Like Harad has been saying for a 2135 01:43:27.840 --> 01:43:30.720 long time now that he you know, as one of 2136 01:43:30.800 --> 01:43:33.520 the heads on the tech and project, he wants more 2137 01:43:33.600 --> 01:43:36.399 three D fighters. He wants like Virtual Fighter to come 2138 01:43:36.479 --> 01:43:38.960 back and stuff. It's just maybe there hasn't been room 2139 01:43:39.000 --> 01:43:41.039 for that in the public eye because they just see 2140 01:43:41.359 --> 01:43:43.520 Virtual Fighter and Tech and they're like, well, what's the difference. 2141 01:43:43.520 --> 01:43:45.560 It's the same thing. They're very different in the way 2142 01:43:45.600 --> 01:43:48.239 that they play when you actually like sit down with them, 2143 01:43:48.399 --> 01:43:51.239 and so it's cool to have more of these out there. 2144 01:43:52.000 --> 01:43:57.560 Now, bring back Fighters, Mega Mix, bring back to. 2145 01:43:57.600 --> 01:44:03.119 The Hornet Bloody Role Yeah, or the for the all 2146 01:44:03.159 --> 01:44:04.319 the online pervs. 2147 01:44:05.039 --> 01:44:07.159 Now for all the online pros. They'll be in the 2148 01:44:07.239 --> 01:44:08.920 new debt or Alive that will never get. 2149 01:44:10.159 --> 01:44:13.000 Stalker Too is getting its first post release patch during 2150 01:44:13.239 --> 01:44:15.439 the week to come. We didn't talk about it, so 2151 01:44:15.720 --> 01:44:18.600 no one's been playing Stalker Too, right, I'm start it now? 2152 01:44:18.960 --> 01:44:21.640 Oh what do you? What do you? How do you find? 2153 01:44:22.560 --> 01:44:22.600 It? 2154 01:44:22.840 --> 01:44:26.760 Is a Stalker Stalker game, which is really really great 2155 01:44:26.880 --> 01:44:29.640 and also kind of you know, if you're not ready 2156 01:44:29.680 --> 01:44:33.479 for the frustrations that come with it being Stalker, it 2157 01:44:33.600 --> 01:44:38.039 can be off putting, but it's it is very very 2158 01:44:38.880 --> 01:44:42.399 classically Stalker, which is very unique. There's very few other 2159 01:44:42.479 --> 01:44:45.720 games that are have that kind of ambience and atmosphere 2160 01:44:45.840 --> 01:44:49.079 and that kind of ruthlessness in how it treats you. 2161 01:44:50.279 --> 01:44:53.039 It's it's a zero how and handhold the game to 2162 01:44:53.159 --> 01:44:56.760 the point where I had to shift my mentality when 2163 01:44:56.840 --> 01:44:59.079 started playing. When I started playing it, because I'm so 2164 01:44:59.319 --> 01:45:03.159 used to the modern conveniences and the language of video 2165 01:45:03.239 --> 01:45:06.720 game being so modern. Like I got into the early 2166 01:45:07.039 --> 01:45:09.239 the opening sections, like you have to move to a 2167 01:45:09.279 --> 01:45:11.319 certain space, and at one point you're in the sewers 2168 01:45:11.359 --> 01:45:14.439 and I was like, I cannot see a fucking thing. 2169 01:45:14.600 --> 01:45:16.640 I where am I going? And I was like stuck 2170 01:45:16.720 --> 01:45:19.359 in there for a good five minutes because the game 2171 01:45:19.439 --> 01:45:22.039 didn't outright be like, hey man, you've got a flashlight 2172 01:45:22.159 --> 01:45:25.319 on this button. And then eventually I realized, Oh, there's 2173 01:45:25.319 --> 01:45:28.000 a button here with a flashlight. And I was like, oh, 2174 01:45:28.359 --> 01:45:31.399 I got to realign my thinking to remember that this 2175 01:45:31.560 --> 01:45:34.039 game is gonna give me nothing, and I need to 2176 01:45:34.399 --> 01:45:37.279 be very vigilant about it. But once you get into 2177 01:45:37.359 --> 01:45:44.600 that space again, it kind of like is it is enjoyable? Also, 2178 01:45:44.680 --> 01:45:46.359 it does this I don't know if it's just me, 2179 01:45:46.560 --> 01:45:48.840 but I think this is partly why I didn't find 2180 01:45:48.840 --> 01:45:49.359 the flashlight. 2181 01:45:49.399 --> 01:45:50.319 I think it does tell you. 2182 01:45:50.479 --> 01:45:55.800 But it does this insane thing where the tutorial prompts 2183 01:45:55.960 --> 01:45:59.239 like they fucking come at you like a Star. 2184 01:45:59.119 --> 01:46:00.079 Wars, like like. 2185 01:46:03.199 --> 01:46:05.319 It fads in there and then like as you move 2186 01:46:05.359 --> 01:46:09.039 it goes back out, and like it is the most 2187 01:46:09.279 --> 01:46:12.920 insane thing I have ever seen in my life. 2188 01:46:13.439 --> 01:46:15.319 It's like atial Jump scar like. 2189 01:46:15.800 --> 01:46:18.920 It genuinely is like the Star Wars like opening crawl 2190 01:46:18.960 --> 01:46:21.279 a where it like comes at you like a ship 2191 01:46:21.439 --> 01:46:24.319 coming at you, and then like fades away again. I 2192 01:46:24.560 --> 01:46:27.840 cannot understand the thinking behind it one bit, and I 2193 01:46:27.920 --> 01:46:30.199 thought it was a bug, but then it kept happening 2194 01:46:30.239 --> 01:46:32.520 and I was like, oh no, this was a stylistic 2195 01:46:32.640 --> 01:46:36.079 and artist choice and it is insane behavior. 2196 01:46:36.479 --> 01:46:38.840 So that's the kind of like the entire thing. 2197 01:46:39.960 --> 01:46:43.720 Press X to make the dead speak exactly. 2198 01:46:45.560 --> 01:46:48.439 Anyway. This update's going to It aims to address various 2199 01:46:48.479 --> 01:46:52.399 crash issues, progression the progression fixes, gameplay and balance adjustments, 2200 01:46:52.560 --> 01:46:56.640 visual fixes, soft locks of soft block fixes, and UI improvements. 2201 01:46:56.960 --> 01:46:59.760 There have been a lot of reports of bugs, especially 2202 01:46:59.800 --> 01:47:04.039 for performance issues as well. How's it running running for you, 2203 01:47:04.119 --> 01:47:06.119 Pyabe playing on the forty ninety. 2204 01:47:06.079 --> 01:47:08.399 Is Yeah, I'm playing on a forty ninety. It runs 2205 01:47:09.439 --> 01:47:13.359 mostly well. I feel like it depending on your set up. 2206 01:47:13.920 --> 01:47:17.119 If you go into town that is when it really 2207 01:47:17.239 --> 01:47:21.439 puts like your your rig to for its paces. Some 2208 01:47:21.520 --> 01:47:24.279 people I've spoken to are like, oh, yeah, it crippled 2209 01:47:24.359 --> 01:47:26.359 my machine when it got there, and my machine is 2210 01:47:26.439 --> 01:47:29.520 like mostly fine. I think they have optimized it. I 2211 01:47:31.000 --> 01:47:34.000 it's a weird situation, but like I feel like the safest. 2212 01:47:34.119 --> 01:47:36.600 But if you're interested in this game playing it and 2213 01:47:36.680 --> 01:47:38.880 you don't really care about, like you know, having the 2214 01:47:39.119 --> 01:47:42.079 bleeding edge technology running, it is probably to play on 2215 01:47:42.159 --> 01:47:44.760 a console where it's a little more like stabilized, if 2216 01:47:44.800 --> 01:47:46.640 you know what I mean. I feel like it gets 2217 01:47:46.680 --> 01:47:48.520 a bit wacky when you're on a PC and it's 2218 01:47:48.560 --> 01:47:51.520 got like games right, yeah, it's in game pass, Like 2219 01:47:51.560 --> 01:47:54.039 I played it on Xbox, and Xbox immediately was a 2220 01:47:54.079 --> 01:47:57.199 little more stable, if you know what I mean. But 2221 01:47:57.800 --> 01:48:01.640 my my forty ninety as well, my rig was perfectly 2222 01:48:01.720 --> 01:48:04.239 fine with it. It just was like it had that 2223 01:48:04.439 --> 01:48:06.159 hitchiness to it that I was like, oh. 2224 01:48:06.079 --> 01:48:07.079 This is very Stalker. 2225 01:48:07.359 --> 01:48:09.840 But also some people just had they can't abide that. 2226 01:48:10.520 --> 01:48:12.119 If you're if you're one of those people who like 2227 01:48:12.199 --> 01:48:13.720 when the frame dropped, you're like, oh my god, I 2228 01:48:13.800 --> 01:48:16.640 have to debug everything, and it like stretches you out. 2229 01:48:17.079 --> 01:48:19.560 Maybe don't play Stalker on PC because it will like 2230 01:48:20.039 --> 01:48:23.000 set off your ADHD around that it is is pure 2231 01:48:23.119 --> 01:48:24.199 eurojacktop to the. 2232 01:48:24.159 --> 01:48:27.600 Ball maybe at the very least, like like especially if 2233 01:48:27.640 --> 01:48:29.960 you're playing on game pass, maybe just wait for a 2234 01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:33.159 couple more patches here, because this game is coming in hot. 2235 01:48:33.439 --> 01:48:33.560 Oh. 2236 01:48:34.039 --> 01:48:36.680 Like, look, if any game has ever had reason coming hot, 2237 01:48:36.800 --> 01:48:38.159 it was this one. Yeah. 2238 01:48:38.199 --> 01:48:42.319 But nonetheless, it is very impressive that they put out 2239 01:48:42.359 --> 01:48:44.880 a game under the conditions that they put it out under, 2240 01:48:44.960 --> 01:48:45.399 and it's. 2241 01:48:45.399 --> 01:48:49.840 Yes, it is this good. Yeah exactly, but the patches 2242 01:48:49.880 --> 01:48:52.000 are definitely coming in hot and heavy. I I know 2243 01:48:52.119 --> 01:48:54.920 around VGC Jordan talked about at some point during the 2244 01:48:54.960 --> 01:48:57.800 review period there was a quote unquote patch that was 2245 01:48:57.880 --> 01:49:01.600 like one hundred and sixty gigaby the game. Again exactly, 2246 01:49:01.840 --> 01:49:04.680 it has like put out a new master version of 2247 01:49:04.760 --> 01:49:07.319 the game basically that they pushed out to everyone because 2248 01:49:07.319 --> 01:49:10.279 it was sometimes that's sometimes that's what you do in development, 2249 01:49:10.399 --> 01:49:13.399 and normally that's the thing that happens much earlier in development. 2250 01:49:13.520 --> 01:49:16.159 So clearly something's going on there where they are kind 2251 01:49:16.199 --> 01:49:19.880 of building the airplane as it's landing here. So yeah, 2252 01:49:20.279 --> 01:49:21.960 maybe if you're not in a rush, just wait a 2253 01:49:22.119 --> 01:49:22.600 little bit. 2254 01:49:22.720 --> 01:49:26.279 Yeah, I imagine it. Like under the conditions that they 2255 01:49:26.319 --> 01:49:29.239 were working under, it wasn't as easy to run like 2256 01:49:29.720 --> 01:49:33.920 optimization and compatibility testing for like all the because when 2257 01:49:33.920 --> 01:49:35.479 you make a game, you have to test it on 2258 01:49:35.600 --> 01:49:40.199 so many different configurations of devices and potential and it's 2259 01:49:40.279 --> 01:49:43.520 probably not as easy as and for them as it 2260 01:49:43.640 --> 01:49:45.680 is for maybe others would be and others have it 2261 01:49:45.840 --> 01:49:47.600 hard at in the best times anyway. 2262 01:49:47.960 --> 01:49:53.119 Yeah. Uh. Nintendo Switch, E shop and online services are 2263 01:49:53.279 --> 01:49:56.520 ending in China in twenty twenty six, and to Switch, 2264 01:49:56.560 --> 01:49:59.279 E shop and all other related network services will be 2265 01:49:59.319 --> 01:50:02.640 closed down in China on March thirty first, twenty twenty six. 2266 01:50:03.119 --> 01:50:05.399 On May fifteenth, twenty twenty six, players will no longer 2267 01:50:05.439 --> 01:50:08.560 be able to download games, reading codes, or purchase DLC. 2268 01:50:09.079 --> 01:50:11.239 The Nintendo Switch was launched in China in twenty twenty 2269 01:50:11.359 --> 01:50:13.159 been running for the last several years. 2270 01:50:13.720 --> 01:50:14.279 That's happening. 2271 01:50:14.359 --> 01:50:16.359 Yeah, why so Yeah? 2272 01:50:16.520 --> 01:50:19.199 I tried to figure out if there was a stated reason. 2273 01:50:19.720 --> 01:50:22.479 Does it seem to be you know, obviously switches at 2274 01:50:22.520 --> 01:50:25.319 the end of its life. Nintendo's not saying why now, 2275 01:50:26.439 --> 01:50:28.079 You know, when you do. When you are a foreign 2276 01:50:28.119 --> 01:50:30.479 company working in China, you have to work with companies 2277 01:50:30.520 --> 01:50:32.439 like ten Cent, you have to go through all of 2278 01:50:32.640 --> 01:50:38.239 the they're very very very byzantine regulation, and I would 2279 01:50:38.279 --> 01:50:41.319 imagine that that is costly to the point where having 2280 01:50:41.439 --> 01:50:45.800 a stated end date ready to go is is probably like, oh, 2281 01:50:45.960 --> 01:50:47.239 this is a smart thing. We need to just get 2282 01:50:47.279 --> 01:50:48.840 out of China as soon as we can. Well, the 2283 01:50:48.920 --> 01:50:51.119 next thing ready to go, but the current thing needs 2284 01:50:51.119 --> 01:50:52.199 to get out of there, so we don't have to 2285 01:50:52.279 --> 01:50:54.960 keep maintaining that because it's not cost effective. But yeah, 2286 01:50:55.199 --> 01:50:58.279 they're they're going all out, like so you know, if 2287 01:50:58.319 --> 01:51:01.840 I'm reading this right, I'm gonna read the machine Translated 2288 01:51:01.920 --> 01:51:04.319 from the Nintendo Switch dot com dot dot c n 2289 01:51:04.479 --> 01:51:08.439 page here, the owner of each activated Nintendo Switch game 2290 01:51:08.479 --> 01:51:11.000 console that is in normal use in accordance with the 2291 01:51:11.119 --> 01:51:13.600 Nintendo Switch Terms of Use, can log into the weed 2292 01:51:13.720 --> 01:51:16.880 chat account used by the game console limited to one 2293 01:51:17.319 --> 01:51:20.520 UH to claim to use a Game Claim program to 2294 01:51:20.600 --> 01:51:24.439 receive up to four free redemption codes for downloadable Nintendo 2295 01:51:24.520 --> 01:51:27.960 games or utility software. The list of eligible claims is 2296 01:51:28.039 --> 01:51:31.840 as follows. Super Mario Brothers U Deluxe, Super Mario Odyssey, 2297 01:51:32.399 --> 01:51:36.239 Mario Kart eight, Super Mario Party, Mario Tennis Aces, Mario Yeah, 2298 01:51:36.439 --> 01:51:40.159 Mario Tennis Aces, Yoshi's Handmade World. Uh, there's a whole 2299 01:51:40.159 --> 01:51:43.000 bunch more here, but uh, yeah, that's the Yeah, that's 2300 01:51:43.039 --> 01:51:48.439 the translation. Yeah. Kirby of the Stars Nova Alliance. It's 2301 01:51:48.439 --> 01:51:50.920 a hell of a name. Uheh. Some of the Pokemon 2302 01:51:51.000 --> 01:51:53.439 games Let's Go peek at you, Let's go eve uh, 2303 01:51:53.720 --> 01:51:54.960 Let's go Ibrahimovich. 2304 01:51:55.239 --> 01:52:01.680 Yes, I'm surprised. What even have Let's Go in China 2305 01:52:01.760 --> 01:52:04.159 be as Pokemon Go as banned in China. Odd? 2306 01:52:04.399 --> 01:52:07.520 Yeah, right, it's odd. And I think that this is 2307 01:52:07.640 --> 01:52:09.840 like more about maybe they just want to like have 2308 01:52:09.960 --> 01:52:12.079 an end date for their deal with ten Cent. 2309 01:52:13.000 --> 01:52:16.479 Yes, this is probably like a re re re upping 2310 01:52:16.520 --> 01:52:18.479 your license juncture where they're like, now we're good. 2311 01:52:18.640 --> 01:52:22.159 Yeah, right, exactly. And so and you know ten Cent 2312 01:52:22.439 --> 01:52:24.399 is is the company they work with the you know 2313 01:52:24.479 --> 01:52:27.000 that's whites we Chat, uh. You know that that is 2314 01:52:27.079 --> 01:52:29.880 their local publisher, and you know, you know how like 2315 01:52:30.079 --> 01:52:33.439 people complain about the thirty percent cut for using stores 2316 01:52:33.560 --> 01:52:36.359 in the rest of the world, that cut in China 2317 01:52:36.600 --> 01:52:39.159 is like eighty percent. You gotta get fun. You got 2318 01:52:39.279 --> 01:52:41.560 to get like thirty five percent to like the publisher 2319 01:52:41.760 --> 01:52:44.119 and another like forty five percent of the stores. 2320 01:52:44.600 --> 01:52:45.399 It's massive. 2321 01:52:45.479 --> 01:52:47.079 Yeah, So that's why I was gonna I'm sure we 2322 01:52:47.119 --> 01:52:49.079 don't have the numbers, buzzz won or is it maybe 2323 01:52:49.199 --> 01:52:51.239 just not profitable for them to be in China. 2324 01:52:51.920 --> 01:52:55.000 It probably it probably was, and they can like see 2325 01:52:55.279 --> 01:52:57.479 like the bar going down on the bar graph and 2326 01:52:57.680 --> 01:52:59.720 like by twenty twenty six, this is going to cross 2327 01:52:59.760 --> 01:53:02.520 down into the red. So let's just you know, cut 2328 01:53:02.560 --> 01:53:04.680 it off now and have a plan to get out 2329 01:53:04.800 --> 01:53:06.800 and make sure that we're in compliance with all the 2330 01:53:06.880 --> 01:53:08.359 deals that we have with ten Cent, and so that 2331 01:53:08.479 --> 01:53:11.720 means twenty twenty six. These are my guesses. I'm sure 2332 01:53:12.000 --> 01:53:14.720 there's more complications to it than what we realize. I 2333 01:53:14.840 --> 01:53:17.079 might even reach out to Daniel Maud and ask him 2334 01:53:17.079 --> 01:53:18.520 specifically what he thinks. 2335 01:53:18.640 --> 01:53:21.680 What do you think this does? Do you reckon? This 2336 01:53:21.880 --> 01:53:23.960 is just means like paves the way for people just 2337 01:53:24.039 --> 01:53:27.960 to like homebrew the shit. I assume they're doing everything already, 2338 01:53:28.279 --> 01:53:30.680 like they probably have that situation going. But do you 2339 01:53:30.720 --> 01:53:34.000 think it will speed up the initiative to kind of 2340 01:53:34.159 --> 01:53:38.159 like create other opportunities to access these services? 2341 01:53:39.439 --> 01:53:41.399 Yeah? I mean I oh yeah, you mean, like to 2342 01:53:41.600 --> 01:53:46.039 emulate the Nintendo Switch online services. Yes, for sure, because 2343 01:53:46.359 --> 01:53:48.960 there's a community that like loves to do that shit. 2344 01:53:49.039 --> 01:53:52.880 They have cracked that three DS stuff open, Yeah, to 2345 01:53:52.960 --> 01:53:54.760 the point where you just put in a different DNS 2346 01:53:55.359 --> 01:53:56.760 three DS Yeah, three ds. 2347 01:53:57.399 --> 01:54:00.359 Are back online through homebrew efforts. It's really cool exactly. 2348 01:54:00.520 --> 01:54:02.239 So, yes, that that will speed it up a little bit, 2349 01:54:02.319 --> 01:54:05.039 and that I'm sure those people are already, like, you know, 2350 01:54:05.079 --> 01:54:07.399 sniffing around this, being like, hey, we'll be ready when 2351 01:54:07.439 --> 01:54:09.199 Nintendo was ready to stop doing it. 2352 01:54:09.239 --> 01:54:12.000 Yetta be careful though, because with everything happened with Yuzu 2353 01:54:12.239 --> 01:54:16.279 and reujinks and everything like that there, Nintendo's clearly on 2354 01:54:16.399 --> 01:54:19.399 the prol for like these projects. 2355 01:54:19.439 --> 01:54:23.840 Hasn't Nintendo traditionally been relatively unsuccessful in China? 2356 01:54:25.520 --> 01:54:28.640 Yeah, I ever, everyone's been everyone, All these console manufacturers 2357 01:54:28.680 --> 01:54:31.560 have been relatively unsuccessful that you know. So there were 2358 01:54:32.279 --> 01:54:35.800 laws against releasing consoles in China for a very very 2359 01:54:35.960 --> 01:54:39.039 very long time. Those got lifted, but then tons of 2360 01:54:39.119 --> 01:54:42.520 regulation about you know, can you release a game in China. 2361 01:54:42.640 --> 01:54:44.840 It's got to get approved by the government you can 2362 01:54:44.920 --> 01:54:46.600 release it in China, And so there's still a lot 2363 01:54:46.640 --> 01:54:49.079 of hurdles, which is all that stuff eats into the 2364 01:54:49.119 --> 01:54:52.399 cost of or eats into the profits. And uh again, 2365 01:54:52.439 --> 01:54:54.800 I think a lot of yeah leads to but China's 2366 01:54:54.800 --> 01:54:57.000 still a massive market. You can't ignore. 2367 01:54:58.359 --> 01:55:00.520 They were there for a long time. Because on summer 2368 01:55:01.359 --> 01:55:03.920 little or whatever. Yeah, they had the IQ brand, which 2369 01:55:04.039 --> 01:55:06.760 was just Nintendo, but they well I believe IQ was 2370 01:55:06.880 --> 01:55:08.199 their subsidiary that. 2371 01:55:08.279 --> 01:55:10.800 The China domestically. 2372 01:55:10.840 --> 01:55:12.880 Yes, yeah, so you would have like just a game 2373 01:55:12.920 --> 01:55:15.359 Boy Advance sp and it came out a little bit 2374 01:55:15.359 --> 01:55:18.760 after we got it, but it was just branded completely differently. 2375 01:55:19.079 --> 01:55:22.479 So then has some weird stuff of the n sixty 2376 01:55:22.560 --> 01:55:24.479 four IQ was just like an all It was basically 2377 01:55:24.520 --> 01:55:26.479 a plug and play device, right yeah, because it was 2378 01:55:26.520 --> 01:55:28.600 like there was no cartridge slot. It made it easier 2379 01:55:28.640 --> 01:55:31.000 for them to suck that was not technically a console. 2380 01:55:31.079 --> 01:55:32.199 It was this toy. 2381 01:55:32.479 --> 01:55:32.680 Yeah. 2382 01:55:33.359 --> 01:55:35.159 Yeah, So there was always ways that they would try 2383 01:55:35.199 --> 01:55:37.079 to get around it, and they had some success in 2384 01:55:37.159 --> 01:55:40.119 China with that stuff, but nothing really to write home about. 2385 01:55:40.640 --> 01:55:42.720 All these companies saw the writing on the wall of 2386 01:55:42.840 --> 01:55:44.880 China be in the biggest gaming market here over time, 2387 01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:47.560 and they're trying to be ready for that. But it's 2388 01:55:47.640 --> 01:55:49.560 not been easy and you do have to partner with 2389 01:55:49.600 --> 01:55:51.760 the local company and they take up most of the money. Right, 2390 01:55:52.520 --> 01:55:56.920 but the problem uh right, last couple of stories here, 2391 01:55:57.239 --> 01:56:00.000 another Donkey Kong classic has joined the Nintendo Switch Online. 2392 01:56:00.640 --> 01:56:04.359 This headline phrase like this, I picture you leaning into micronizer, Sir, 2393 01:56:04.680 --> 01:56:08.279 another Donkey Kong classic like that George Bush meme. 2394 01:56:08.720 --> 01:56:12.239 Yes, yeah, this is that headline. I remember I copied 2395 01:56:12.279 --> 01:56:14.439 this one from VG SO. I don't know, but I 2396 01:56:15.880 --> 01:56:18.399 the Donkey Kong Land too. After they just released Donkey 2397 01:56:18.479 --> 01:56:21.399 Kong Land one, and I still see people being like, oh, 2398 01:56:21.439 --> 01:56:23.239 these are just the ports of the S and S games, Like, no, 2399 01:56:23.279 --> 01:56:25.199 they have a ton of original stuff in them. These 2400 01:56:25.239 --> 01:56:26.119 are different games. 2401 01:56:26.199 --> 01:56:30.720 But although oddly there is also a Hockey Kong Country 2402 01:56:30.800 --> 01:56:32.039 for the Game Boy Color. 2403 01:56:32.359 --> 01:56:37.399 Yeah, yeah, those are ports, Donkey Kong Land is somewhat different. 2404 01:56:38.000 --> 01:56:41.800 Ye's bespoken. It's probably more interesting because of that. Gosh, 2405 01:56:41.920 --> 01:56:44.439 I was so frustrated that we're getting these Donkey kong 2406 01:56:44.520 --> 01:56:47.239 Land games before we have Donkey Kong ninety four on 2407 01:56:47.479 --> 01:56:51.680 NSO now wor No, it's not my big worry. When 2408 01:56:51.680 --> 01:56:54.800 they just announced Honkey Kong Land one last week, was like, 2409 01:56:54.960 --> 01:56:58.000 oh my god, they're gonna like dole these out over 2410 01:56:58.039 --> 01:57:00.079 the course of three months, and it's the only n 2411 01:57:00.199 --> 01:57:02.239 s OGINs we're going to get. At least, we seem 2412 01:57:02.279 --> 01:57:04.239 to be going through these Donkey Kong limbs once a 2413 01:57:04.439 --> 01:57:06.520 pretty quickly. I'm sure we'll get three next week. 2414 01:57:07.119 --> 01:57:10.520 Yep, yeah, fair, fair enough. It's I like those Donkey 2415 01:57:10.600 --> 01:57:14.159 Kong Land games as interesting curiosities that were surprisingly good. 2416 01:57:14.239 --> 01:57:17.439 It is very weird to see that got to get ACM. 2417 01:57:17.479 --> 01:57:19.279 I can't remember what that stood for, but the Silicon 2418 01:57:19.319 --> 01:57:23.560 Graphics machine like animated computer or whatever stuff that they did, 2419 01:57:24.640 --> 01:57:27.279 like scrunched down to work on her original game Boy. 2420 01:57:27.439 --> 01:57:31.319 That was always very weird to Yeah, all right, last 2421 01:57:31.359 --> 01:57:34.199 story and official Metroid Prime Trilogy art book is up 2422 01:57:34.279 --> 01:57:37.359 for pre order at Amazon. Metroid Prime one through three, 2423 01:57:37.520 --> 01:57:40.680 a visual retrospective, which is a two D and twelve 2424 01:57:40.760 --> 01:57:44.159 page hardcover art book covering the original Metroid Prime trilogy, 2425 01:57:44.600 --> 01:57:48.720 is releasing in summer twenty twenty five sketches. It's it 2426 01:57:48.880 --> 01:57:52.520 looks very cool. Nintendo is working with Piggyback. I think 2427 01:57:52.520 --> 01:57:54.920 it's the name of the company to make this. It 2428 01:57:55.039 --> 01:57:59.840 is officially, it's like an official partnership with Nintendo. Very cool. Hey, 2429 01:58:00.199 --> 01:58:01.880 what do you think this means about? Like, listen, we 2430 01:58:01.880 --> 01:58:06.279 know Metro Prime four beyond say it. Listen two and three. 2431 01:58:07.159 --> 01:58:08.960 I know they're just sitting there. They're done. 2432 01:58:09.399 --> 01:58:12.560 They're just does sell the blowout any day. 2433 01:58:12.640 --> 01:58:17.640 It's a little bit different than this one is real twisted. 2434 01:58:17.880 --> 01:58:21.439 Vauxel dot com I had a story saying that, yeah, 2435 01:58:21.600 --> 01:58:24.560 metch of Prime two was allegedly planned for Switch release 2436 01:58:24.600 --> 01:58:26.520 in early twenty twenty five. I mean, why the hell not, 2437 01:58:26.880 --> 01:58:28.920 Like you said, we did the first one, these two 2438 01:58:28.960 --> 01:58:32.159 are probably done. You're releasing Metroid Prime four later now, 2439 01:58:32.319 --> 01:58:34.279 Like you know, this art book isn't exactly the most 2440 01:58:34.319 --> 01:58:36.800 smoke in the world. No, it's a little bit of smoke. 2441 01:58:37.560 --> 01:58:39.560 And it's like, you know, at the time when I 2442 01:58:39.600 --> 01:58:42.039 was talking about Metro Prime one, at the time, it 2443 01:58:42.119 --> 01:58:43.600 was like two or three are happening, but they're a 2444 01:58:43.600 --> 01:58:45.640 little bit less of a remake. The Big Boy Remix 2445 01:58:45.760 --> 01:58:47.079 was one. But they have two and three and they 2446 01:58:47.119 --> 01:58:49.239 have it ready, and it's like, well, okay, they'll probably 2447 01:58:49.239 --> 01:58:51.199 do that here pretty soon. It's like, well, Nintendo does 2448 01:58:51.239 --> 01:58:53.560 things on their own time, and it's man, it's a 2449 01:58:53.640 --> 01:58:56.079 long time. But it's like, no, they just wait until 2450 01:58:56.079 --> 01:58:59.920 it makes sense for the game franchise itself. And look, 2451 01:59:00.039 --> 01:59:02.479 if they they did Pickman one and two on the Switch, 2452 01:59:02.800 --> 01:59:05.119 they're going to do that. It's kind of like, why 2453 01:59:05.199 --> 01:59:08.239 wouldn't they do Metro Prime two and three, especially again 2454 01:59:08.600 --> 01:59:11.359 they're done, those games are finished, ready to be released 2455 01:59:11.399 --> 01:59:14.960 on Switch, so we'll see. I think that if this 2456 01:59:15.079 --> 01:59:18.319 thing comes out in summer and Metro Prime four beyond 2457 01:59:18.359 --> 01:59:20.640 comes out, maybe a little bit after that, I could 2458 01:59:20.680 --> 01:59:24.720 see early summer, you know, late late spring released from 2459 01:59:24.760 --> 01:59:27.399 Metro Prime two and three. Wouldn't surprise me. 2460 01:59:27.560 --> 01:59:31.520 Yeah, I've I've been thinking a little bit about where 2461 01:59:31.680 --> 01:59:33.520 the Switch Too is going to come out, because we're 2462 01:59:33.520 --> 01:59:37.359 assuming it comes out next year, which all logic would 2463 01:59:37.359 --> 01:59:40.359 dictate at this point, but because we don't have anything 2464 01:59:40.520 --> 01:59:43.119 on it at this point at the end of November, 2465 01:59:43.920 --> 01:59:46.920 it's almost assuredly not releasing in the first quarter of 2466 01:59:47.000 --> 01:59:50.880 twenty twenty five now, so that means when would they 2467 01:59:50.960 --> 01:59:52.840 release it. I guess it could be a little bit 2468 01:59:52.920 --> 01:59:54.800 after that, but I feel like it's more likely that 2469 01:59:54.880 --> 01:59:57.319 the Switch two comes out and follow next year, which 2470 01:59:57.399 --> 01:59:59.880 would kind of line up, especially if it's backwards compatible. 2471 02:00:00.399 --> 02:00:02.520 We're assuming, based on variety of things that I've been 2472 02:00:02.560 --> 02:00:07.199 tracking Pokemon Legends Za also in late summer at the earliest. 2473 02:00:07.520 --> 02:00:10.319 Metroy Prime four feels like a fall game at this 2474 02:00:10.439 --> 02:00:13.039 point as well. Maybe it comes out earlier and like 2475 02:00:13.199 --> 02:00:16.359 that's their first half of the year big game, but 2476 02:00:16.920 --> 02:00:19.840 also having the other METROI Prime stuff. You know, we're 2477 02:00:19.880 --> 02:00:21.560 assuming that two and three were going to be a 2478 02:00:21.640 --> 02:00:24.279 lead up to four. Maybe that's how they fill out 2479 02:00:24.319 --> 02:00:27.079 their twenty twenty five in the lead up to the 2480 02:00:27.159 --> 02:00:31.439 switch to I'm Gonna Shoot My Shot. The Town doesn't 2481 02:00:31.439 --> 02:00:33.000 do much at the Game Awards, but usually have a 2482 02:00:33.039 --> 02:00:36.000 little something. I think at least maybe both, but at 2483 02:00:36.079 --> 02:00:39.039 least Metro Prime two remastered announced at the game. 2484 02:00:39.079 --> 02:00:41.960 I think I wasn't gonna do anything until Jeff Grubb 2485 02:00:42.399 --> 02:00:44.000 pledges to shave his bid. 2486 02:00:45.840 --> 02:00:48.399 I will say, I think Mike May, you're on design 2487 02:00:48.439 --> 02:00:50.640 because that feels like the tier of announcement that Nintendo 2488 02:00:50.720 --> 02:00:52.399 likes to do it the Game Awards, you know, like 2489 02:00:52.520 --> 02:00:56.159 doing like Joker revealed for Smash. I feel like that's 2490 02:00:56.239 --> 02:00:58.760 the tier of like, oh yeah, the niche audience who's 2491 02:00:58.800 --> 02:01:00.439 watching this right now are really a lot of this. 2492 02:01:01.039 --> 02:01:01.720 It's like a two and three. 2493 02:01:01.840 --> 02:01:06.600 It was the lost Nintendo appearance games, you should. 2494 02:01:06.319 --> 02:01:09.399 Have something again. Sometimes it's just a that's really like 2495 02:01:09.479 --> 02:01:11.000 sometimes it's not even an announcement. 2496 02:01:11.600 --> 02:01:14.199 I feel like everyone says Nintendo always has something, but 2497 02:01:14.439 --> 02:01:15.359 they don't really. 2498 02:01:15.439 --> 02:01:19.800 I think they did in the past. I think big one. 2499 02:01:20.000 --> 02:01:23.880 Other than Smash and Reggie being on stage, they had 2500 02:01:23.960 --> 02:01:26.800 like they was it shadow Drop, the Breath of the 2501 02:01:26.880 --> 02:01:30.760 Wild DLC their one year like they have they have 2502 02:01:31.039 --> 02:01:32.880 stuff so interesting. 2503 02:01:33.479 --> 02:01:35.399 I don't know. Have they done much in the Doug 2504 02:01:35.560 --> 02:01:36.560 Bowser Nintendo? 2505 02:01:37.000 --> 02:01:40.520 No, I think in the Doug Bowser nothing much has happened. 2506 02:01:40.600 --> 02:01:42.760 So I'm not saying it's not possible. I just feel 2507 02:01:42.800 --> 02:01:45.680 like when people say Nintendo have don stuff at the 2508 02:01:45.800 --> 02:01:50.479 game I feel like I remembering, yeah, remember anymore? 2509 02:01:51.000 --> 02:01:52.079 But if anyone can put. 2510 02:01:53.600 --> 02:01:56.199 So, yep, I would love to. I would love to 2511 02:01:56.199 --> 02:01:58.520 get my trade prime. Just shadow drop that a night. 2512 02:01:58.560 --> 02:01:59.119 That'd be great. 2513 02:01:59.239 --> 02:02:00.840 Yeah, I would not like to. 2514 02:02:00.960 --> 02:02:05.199 Actually, no, don't do that. Leave time please. 2515 02:02:07.560 --> 02:02:10.279 Okay, that does it for the headlines. I'm handing this 2516 02:02:10.319 --> 02:02:12.479 show back over to you. Dam Hey, we got that mark. 2517 02:02:12.520 --> 02:02:15.119 We got a Mario Brothers movie clip in twenty twenty 2518 02:02:15.159 --> 02:02:15.960 two at the game work. 2519 02:02:16.520 --> 02:02:19.279 Okay, do we want to take a quick break before 2520 02:02:19.319 --> 02:02:20.279 we come back to emails. 2521 02:02:20.520 --> 02:02:22.000 Let's do a quick breaking break time. 2522 02:02:22.079 --> 02:02:23.479 Everyone, see you soon. 2523 02:02:26.159 --> 02:02:34.920 Email time if you keeping you on your toes deep 2524 02:02:35.000 --> 02:02:35.600 you're just not right? 2525 02:02:35.680 --> 02:02:37.960 Yeah yeah, yep, no. 2526 02:02:41.319 --> 02:02:46.880 Email if you would like to send an email to us, 2527 02:02:47.039 --> 02:02:50.279 you can use bombkos at giant bomb dot com and 2528 02:02:50.560 --> 02:02:53.399 you might be able to have your email read out. 2529 02:02:53.479 --> 02:02:57.319 Like Kyle in Scotland who says high bombers don't like 2530 02:02:57.399 --> 02:03:02.159 that one has anyone watched to any rugby? I feel 2531 02:03:02.199 --> 02:03:05.159 like the American football fans amongst you might enjoy it. 2532 02:03:05.560 --> 02:03:08.279 And the US is going to be hosting the World 2533 02:03:08.399 --> 02:03:11.760 Cup off the Australia. As you may know, New Zealand 2534 02:03:11.840 --> 02:03:15.560 do a hakker before rugby games. My question is what 2535 02:03:15.720 --> 02:03:19.359 would Giant Bomb do before competing in things as a team. 2536 02:03:19.439 --> 02:03:21.960 So tupac question there anyone enjoy a rugby and what 2537 02:03:22.039 --> 02:03:23.439 would all equivalent of the hakka be? 2538 02:03:24.760 --> 02:03:27.479 I think I know about it is from that movie Invictus. 2539 02:03:28.560 --> 02:03:29.800 Sure it's pretty good. 2540 02:03:30.399 --> 02:03:33.520 If I could get away with doing a hakka one 2541 02:03:33.840 --> 02:03:35.800 million percent, I would do a hawk I. 2542 02:03:35.800 --> 02:03:38.039 Would we could get away with it more than I could. 2543 02:03:38.199 --> 02:03:40.439 To be fair, I would ask for permission and if 2544 02:03:40.439 --> 02:03:42.000 I could get it, I would be the happiest man 2545 02:03:42.119 --> 02:03:44.560 on earth. I want to do a hakka so bad. 2546 02:03:45.119 --> 02:03:46.079 Check muted. 2547 02:03:51.560 --> 02:03:53.439 Ci boom a moment, Let's do it. 2548 02:03:55.960 --> 02:04:00.880 Oh you better reporting you little recording should be fine 2549 02:04:01.000 --> 02:04:02.159 what what what's a harker? 2550 02:04:02.960 --> 02:04:06.399 So you know what Polynesian people do? They like ha ha, 2551 02:04:07.399 --> 02:04:08.800 Like no, you don't know that that's. 2552 02:04:08.640 --> 02:04:10.279 Not right you doing it. 2553 02:04:11.000 --> 02:04:16.600 It's like a ceremonial like Maori in MraY Culture's I 2554 02:04:16.640 --> 02:04:19.479 guess it is technically a dance. I apologize if I'm 2555 02:04:19.680 --> 02:04:22.840 speaking out of turnal incorrectly to anyone who is from 2556 02:04:22.960 --> 02:04:28.239 the Murray culture background. It's very sacred to them. And 2557 02:04:28.640 --> 02:04:31.560 every time I see it it is pretty incredible. It's 2558 02:04:31.720 --> 02:04:37.000 very moving, and it's a lot like very like vigorous, 2559 02:04:37.159 --> 02:04:41.279 like stomping and aggressive movements, and it's very intimidating, but 2560 02:04:41.479 --> 02:04:44.399 it becomes it comes from like a a kind of 2561 02:04:44.680 --> 02:04:49.880 idea of I think unity, but it's impressive. I I like, 2562 02:04:50.039 --> 02:04:54.479 it is emotionally quite moving. Whenever you see recently, I 2563 02:04:54.560 --> 02:04:59.960 think it was used in a political context where many 2564 02:05:00.880 --> 02:05:04.079 so there's some sort of like bill going through and 2565 02:05:04.359 --> 02:05:07.880 immediately one of the politicians in there just decides to 2566 02:05:07.960 --> 02:05:12.359 pick in a hawker as a as a kind of protest. 2567 02:05:12.439 --> 02:05:15.279 And it is unreal just to see people like it 2568 02:05:15.800 --> 02:05:19.600 just drop everything they're doing and just coordinate. 2569 02:05:18.960 --> 02:05:23.119 In a way that it's crazy, Okay, and. 2570 02:05:24.840 --> 02:05:27.600 A lot of people of that lineage are very good 2571 02:05:27.720 --> 02:05:31.039 football players in American football, and one of my favorite players. 2572 02:05:31.439 --> 02:05:34.600 It comes from that and so and I'm always like, man, 2573 02:05:34.680 --> 02:05:36.960 I want to learn more about rugby because I know 2574 02:05:37.039 --> 02:05:38.640 they have a lot of rugby that they play there 2575 02:05:38.680 --> 02:05:40.640 that's very popular in like New Zealand exactly. 2576 02:05:41.279 --> 02:05:44.119 But we should we should all dance like the Charlie 2577 02:05:44.159 --> 02:05:48.680 Brown characters in the Christmas Special in the background. That'll 2578 02:05:48.720 --> 02:05:49.199 be our thing. 2579 02:05:49.520 --> 02:05:51.880 We should start every one of our events with doing 2580 02:05:51.960 --> 02:05:55.720 the one hundred nugget challenge. Oh my god, everyone has 2581 02:05:55.760 --> 02:05:58.800 to eat one hundred nuggets. I'm sorry Mike is dancing 2582 02:05:58.920 --> 02:06:04.239 like a Charlie Brown character right now with himself. 2583 02:06:05.640 --> 02:06:07.600 Am I the only one here who wouldn't die from 2584 02:06:07.600 --> 02:06:12.840 the hundred nugget challenge? Like? Feel over instantly? I feel 2585 02:06:12.880 --> 02:06:14.319 like I could survive. 2586 02:06:14.479 --> 02:06:15.000 I used to. 2587 02:06:15.239 --> 02:06:17.199 I have eaten a one time. I believe it was 2588 02:06:17.199 --> 02:06:19.119 one hundred chicken wings and. 2589 02:06:20.880 --> 02:06:22.439 I used to I used to do that. 2590 02:06:22.800 --> 02:06:25.199 It was I was easily. 2591 02:06:25.640 --> 02:06:28.239 I had fifty. I was like, no problem, I could 2592 02:06:28.279 --> 02:06:31.079 have eaten another fifty before. 2593 02:06:31.199 --> 02:06:34.680 There's an all you can eat place here. Yeah, quicker 2594 02:06:34.720 --> 02:06:37.880 stick and lube. We would go crazy on that ship. 2595 02:06:37.920 --> 02:06:41.720 Wait wait, wait, what was it called Quaker steak and lube. 2596 02:06:43.600 --> 02:06:43.640 It? 2597 02:06:43.800 --> 02:06:46.319 So it was it was like originally a gas station, 2598 02:06:46.479 --> 02:06:50.960 which is where the lube parts. Yeah, yeah, of course that's. 2599 02:06:50.880 --> 02:06:51.880 Where you got your wings from. 2600 02:06:52.640 --> 02:06:54.800 Like you said that, I'm like, what's the problem, Like quicker, 2601 02:06:55.560 --> 02:06:57.520 I'm so use of Quaker sticking lube. I'm like, why 2602 02:06:57.560 --> 02:06:58.680 did I what did I say? 2603 02:06:58.760 --> 02:06:58.920 Oh? 2604 02:06:59.399 --> 02:07:01.279 I guess it does have the word lubin the time. 2605 02:07:01.399 --> 02:07:04.199 What if we what if we, as an homage to 2606 02:07:04.359 --> 02:07:08.319 the Hawker, had learned a version of it, but incorporated 2607 02:07:08.439 --> 02:07:10.880 eating chicken nuggets into the harker. 2608 02:07:10.880 --> 02:07:13.479 So I think that would be assive. 2609 02:07:13.239 --> 02:07:15.960 Movements to like eating chicken nuggets. 2610 02:07:16.359 --> 02:07:21.840 We do something like that. 2611 02:07:22.439 --> 02:07:27.119 Uh, the most like aggressively pathetic thing you've seen a 2612 02:07:27.239 --> 02:07:28.319 bunch of people who. 2613 02:07:29.199 --> 02:07:32.119 The gamer howker. Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you what. 2614 02:07:32.239 --> 02:07:34.680 What I'm going to really want to do after dance 2615 02:07:34.760 --> 02:07:36.960 eating a hundred chicken nuggets is then played a. 2616 02:07:40.159 --> 02:07:46.720 Uh. Our next email comes from no One's. 2617 02:07:46.479 --> 02:07:48.960 Listed here, so I don't thank you. By the way, 2618 02:07:49.039 --> 02:07:51.039 these are these are the left ards from last week. 2619 02:07:51.079 --> 02:07:53.079 I think these are all new apologies. If there's any 2620 02:07:53.119 --> 02:07:53.640 going up. 2621 02:07:53.680 --> 02:07:56.399 They didn't have time to pick hi, are these are 2622 02:07:56.439 --> 02:07:57.119 these repeats then? 2623 02:07:57.279 --> 02:07:59.880 Or they did not? Get you? 2624 02:08:00.039 --> 02:08:00.680 PI bomb crew. 2625 02:08:00.840 --> 02:08:04.039 With the Half Left two twentieth anniversary happening, I was 2626 02:08:04.119 --> 02:08:06.680 reminded of the first time I played the game as 2627 02:08:06.760 --> 02:08:10.199 a teen. During the finale, when the gravity gun turns 2628 02:08:10.359 --> 02:08:13.359 blue and you can use it against living enemies and 2629 02:08:13.680 --> 02:08:17.840 energy balls, I was blown away. The power trip felt incredible. 2630 02:08:18.199 --> 02:08:20.920 What are some of your wow moments in video games 2631 02:08:21.199 --> 02:08:23.760 that blew you away when you first played them? And 2632 02:08:23.840 --> 02:08:27.560 before we answer that, check out no clips Half Left 2633 02:08:27.560 --> 02:08:32.039 two documentary, which is incredible. Yeah, and show Danny and 2634 02:08:32.159 --> 02:08:33.239 the crew some love there. 2635 02:08:34.760 --> 02:08:37.239 Gosh, that Halfway two moment is a big one for me. 2636 02:08:37.439 --> 02:08:40.279 I got I love Halfway two in that whole final 2637 02:08:40.520 --> 02:08:44.520 act there. Just having that player restriction and having it 2638 02:08:44.680 --> 02:08:47.239 makes sense of the game and learning to be okay 2639 02:08:47.279 --> 02:08:49.800 with it and then removing it at the last moment 2640 02:08:49.880 --> 02:08:52.640 and just letting you be a powerhouse was so incredible. 2641 02:08:53.439 --> 02:08:53.680 Gosh. 2642 02:08:53.680 --> 02:08:57.279 Two other ones that I love train levels and uh gosh, 2643 02:08:57.760 --> 02:09:00.319 Gears of War ones final levels on a train and 2644 02:09:00.439 --> 02:09:02.880 it was just really cool seeing all this stuff. Zoomed Bay. 2645 02:09:03.000 --> 02:09:04.840 I remember playing that game. We call it My Brother 2646 02:09:04.920 --> 02:09:09.560 and I literally did do a wow, like just seeing 2647 02:09:09.600 --> 02:09:11.840 how cool it looked. And then a few years later 2648 02:09:11.880 --> 02:09:13.840 we had and chart it to do the train level, 2649 02:09:14.239 --> 02:09:16.079 and that was a different level because it wasn't just 2650 02:09:16.159 --> 02:09:20.079 going down this straight track. It was bending around landscapes. 2651 02:09:20.359 --> 02:09:22.079 It was impacting the way you had to like shoot 2652 02:09:22.119 --> 02:09:26.079 people with a sniper rifle, and it was just this amazing, 2653 02:09:26.880 --> 02:09:29.960 incredible looking set piece. So yeah, I guess I'll say 2654 02:09:30.039 --> 02:09:31.439 wow if you put a trade in your game. 2655 02:09:31.840 --> 02:09:35.159 I felt like, speaking of Kids of Aar, I remember 2656 02:09:35.239 --> 02:09:37.359 being wow the first time used a Hammer of Dawn. 2657 02:09:37.520 --> 02:09:38.520 That was pretty awesome. 2658 02:09:38.920 --> 02:09:40.640 Yeah, that's a very cool thing. Yeah. 2659 02:09:42.119 --> 02:09:46.359 I think I played the demo for the GameCube Roque 2660 02:09:46.399 --> 02:09:50.199 Squadron a Rogue Leader, Oh yeah Leader so many times 2661 02:09:50.239 --> 02:09:52.239 because it's like I think I've read that they they 2662 02:09:52.359 --> 02:09:56.079 just got access to ILM's assets and they just put 2663 02:09:56.119 --> 02:09:58.239 the movie assets in the game, and it's like, this 2664 02:09:58.439 --> 02:10:00.800 thing just looks so inc credible and I played it 2665 02:10:00.920 --> 02:10:02.680 over and over and over and that blew me away. 2666 02:10:02.720 --> 02:10:07.119 And then another kind of launch game, wave Race, is 2667 02:10:07.159 --> 02:10:09.239 one I always think of, like when the waves moved 2668 02:10:09.279 --> 02:10:10.800 in the way that I thought I thought was like 2669 02:10:10.880 --> 02:10:13.800 this is this feels right, it feels truthful, and like 2670 02:10:13.920 --> 02:10:15.920 as you catch the wave with your with the with 2671 02:10:16.199 --> 02:10:19.880 the the finger on what's it called a jet j 2672 02:10:20.319 --> 02:10:24.000 jets And when you feel like the wave pushing you forward, 2673 02:10:24.039 --> 02:10:25.920 like you actually caught it. And but also because you 2674 02:10:26.039 --> 02:10:27.560 lose a little bit of control and trying to like 2675 02:10:27.840 --> 02:10:30.239 navigate through that and use the waves to your advantage, 2676 02:10:30.479 --> 02:10:32.880 remember that feeling like really sticking with me, which is 2677 02:10:32.920 --> 02:10:34.520 why I always go back to that game. 2678 02:10:34.560 --> 02:10:37.880 I think God of War two has a bunch of 2679 02:10:38.079 --> 02:10:40.720 like sequences that are really impressive. I think there's one 2680 02:10:40.760 --> 02:10:43.479 way running along the chain which I remember being like 2681 02:10:43.600 --> 02:10:44.520 what the fuck? 2682 02:10:44.720 --> 02:10:46.359 Especially on the PS two Yeah. 2683 02:10:46.479 --> 02:10:48.840 Yeah, And and I think like playing all of malgos 2684 02:10:48.880 --> 02:10:50.239 other two was unreal for me. 2685 02:10:51.520 --> 02:10:55.079 Okay for me so being a little bit younger, I 2686 02:10:55.279 --> 02:10:58.000 you know, I did play some PS one and sixty 2687 02:10:58.079 --> 02:11:00.199 four as a kid to like my form at if 2688 02:11:00.560 --> 02:11:03.359 gaming years were starting with like the early PS two 2689 02:11:03.520 --> 02:11:07.279 game cube and everything. So once we got to that point, 2690 02:11:07.720 --> 02:11:10.680 I mean games have been we mentioned earlier in the 2691 02:11:10.720 --> 02:11:13.800 show kind of natural evolutions of the PS two era 2692 02:11:14.039 --> 02:11:16.520 up to this point, so the wow factor is kind 2693 02:11:16.560 --> 02:11:18.680 of gone. But one thing that did really strike me. 2694 02:11:19.479 --> 02:11:21.520 One of the reasons that my favorite game is my 2695 02:11:21.600 --> 02:11:24.640 favorite game is that playing Mega Man Legends on a 2696 02:11:24.760 --> 02:11:27.920 CRT back in you know, like ninety nine or whatever, 2697 02:11:28.000 --> 02:11:31.359 two thousand, that just looked like an anime on that 2698 02:11:31.520 --> 02:11:34.199 TV and I was like blown away. That was like 2699 02:11:34.319 --> 02:11:37.600 controlling a cartoon. As I thought it back then, like, well, 2700 02:11:38.039 --> 02:11:40.119 games aren't supposed to look like this. Games are like 2701 02:11:40.239 --> 02:11:42.840 either you know, weirdo pixel art stuff or it's like 2702 02:11:43.319 --> 02:11:47.279 Mario with his twenty polygons or so it's not supposed 2703 02:11:47.319 --> 02:11:52.359 to look like I'm controlling like my Saturday Morning cartoons 2704 02:11:52.439 --> 02:11:56.520 or whatever. But it was a very smart art style 2705 02:11:56.640 --> 02:12:00.239 that did make me go wow. But yeah, because of 2706 02:12:00.439 --> 02:12:03.359 not having the advantage of seeing a lot of graphical stuff, 2707 02:12:03.399 --> 02:12:09.159 I do think of just cool moments where you think about, oh, 2708 02:12:09.239 --> 02:12:11.319 they put a bit of a twist here that wasn't expecting. 2709 02:12:11.560 --> 02:12:14.279 Like in RPGs, I like a lot when they do 2710 02:12:14.399 --> 02:12:17.079 that where I won't say what it is because Relo 2711 02:12:17.279 --> 02:12:19.199 just came out this year, But at the end of 2712 02:12:19.239 --> 02:12:22.920 Persona three, what happens there the fact that you know 2713 02:12:23.079 --> 02:12:26.199 what's going to happen and they kind of make you 2714 02:12:26.479 --> 02:12:29.159 do it. They give you the agency to like see 2715 02:12:29.520 --> 02:12:33.319 that through was really cool. And also at the end 2716 02:12:33.359 --> 02:12:35.479 of Pokemon Gold and Silver as a kid, that was 2717 02:12:35.520 --> 02:12:37.760 really cool where the ultimate thing you see at the 2718 02:12:37.840 --> 02:12:41.720 end of Golden Silver is red, like you see yourself 2719 02:12:41.800 --> 02:12:42.960 right from the previous game. 2720 02:12:43.239 --> 02:12:43.840 That's cool. 2721 02:12:43.880 --> 02:12:45.199 At the top of Mount Silver, it's like. 2722 02:12:45.439 --> 02:12:47.520 Oh, shoot, that's me, I know that guy? 2723 02:12:47.800 --> 02:12:49.880 Like that was That was a really cool moment too. 2724 02:12:49.920 --> 02:12:52.239 I love win games sort of like twist your expectations 2725 02:12:52.239 --> 02:12:52.920 a little bit like that. 2726 02:12:53.680 --> 02:12:54.640 Yep. Yeah. 2727 02:12:55.319 --> 02:12:57.960 Our next email is a super recipe which I'm just 2728 02:12:58.039 --> 02:13:00.560 gonna thank Alex for. But I won't be reading out 2729 02:13:00.600 --> 02:13:03.840 in totality unless people really want it. All right, I 2730 02:13:03.920 --> 02:13:05.520 can read for it real quick. I want to hear 2731 02:13:05.520 --> 02:13:08.279 a super supers five large tomatoes, one red onion, two 2732 02:13:08.319 --> 02:13:11.000 large carrots, free clothes of garlic, one lit a stock 2733 02:13:11.239 --> 02:13:14.399 Mexican spice, mixed tomato paste and a salid beans chopped 2734 02:13:14.439 --> 02:13:16.640 the vegetables small enough to fit in your air fryer. 2735 02:13:17.039 --> 02:13:19.920 Live the garlic, cold coat them in olive oil, salt, pepper, 2736 02:13:20.079 --> 02:13:24.359 roast for twenty minutes at two hundred degrees celsius. Blend 2737 02:13:24.600 --> 02:13:27.760 roast vegetables with one liter of chicken slash vege stock, 2738 02:13:27.840 --> 02:13:30.199 add a good squeeze of tomato paste, heat, and add 2739 02:13:30.239 --> 02:13:32.800 the beans of choice. Love you, Alex, Thank you. 2740 02:13:33.560 --> 02:13:35.359 That sounds nice. 2741 02:13:35.439 --> 02:13:36.399 Yeah, yeah, I'll do that. 2742 02:13:36.560 --> 02:13:42.439 Ship next one comes picked. The next one comes from 2743 02:13:42.560 --> 02:13:45.720 Chase in Los Angeles, who says, hey, you sexy gamers. 2744 02:13:46.159 --> 02:13:48.239 I just got back from a two week trip to 2745 02:13:48.359 --> 02:13:56.279 Japan with my wife. Prior to going, we download yeah, okay, 2746 02:13:58.399 --> 02:14:01.239 prior to going, we downloaded do you o lingo to 2747 02:14:01.399 --> 02:14:04.680 learn some Japanese in anticipation for the trip, because we 2748 02:14:04.800 --> 02:14:07.880 always like to make things as easy as possible for 2749 02:14:07.960 --> 02:14:11.159 the people serving us or when asking for directions. And 2750 02:14:11.279 --> 02:14:14.600 also I just never want to be that tourist who 2751 02:14:14.640 --> 02:14:17.159 shows up and expects the other country to adapt to 2752 02:14:17.199 --> 02:14:22.079 their needs. My dude, use a comma. I was aware 2753 02:14:22.079 --> 02:14:26.279 of all kinds of reactions in Japan, from absolute shock 2754 02:14:26.600 --> 02:14:31.560 people being so tickled to hair tomo kawai dessl when 2755 02:14:32.319 --> 02:14:36.439 referring to their dog, to one person profusely thanking us 2756 02:14:36.600 --> 02:14:39.199 for having taken the time to learn Japanese. 2757 02:14:39.760 --> 02:14:42.359 My Questionwai means cute, I means cute. 2758 02:14:44.279 --> 02:14:47.680 My question for you is do you try to learn 2759 02:14:47.760 --> 02:14:50.199 a few simple phrases or words when you're traveling to 2760 02:14:50.319 --> 02:14:53.319 a non English speaking country, or do you just roll 2761 02:14:53.399 --> 02:14:56.079 the diet and hope enough people will know English less 2762 02:14:56.119 --> 02:14:59.479 you can charade your way through most situations. Dan, I 2763 02:14:59.520 --> 02:15:01.479 already know answer, so you can set this one out. 2764 02:15:02.039 --> 02:15:07.560 Yeah, that's why we told me couldn't be on this. Yeah. 2765 02:15:07.720 --> 02:15:10.000 Thanks, guys, love what you do, and I swear I'm 2766 02:15:10.079 --> 02:15:13.600 not sending this email to next lander to hashtag never 2767 02:15:13.760 --> 02:15:15.520 be double get you thank. 2768 02:15:15.439 --> 02:15:17.119 You number one. 2769 02:15:17.560 --> 02:15:17.760 Yeah. 2770 02:15:18.279 --> 02:15:23.720 Yeah, yeah, I try, uh and it never works. You know. 2771 02:15:23.800 --> 02:15:26.079 I would probably like brush up on some of the 2772 02:15:26.159 --> 02:15:28.039 duel and go stuff we did in Japanese. We were 2773 02:15:28.079 --> 02:15:29.359 doing that a few weeks ago. I haven't done that 2774 02:15:29.439 --> 02:15:31.359 in a while, but I would be able to brush 2775 02:15:31.479 --> 02:15:34.560 up on that, like the basics pretty quick, and maybe 2776 02:15:34.600 --> 02:15:36.319 I would give it an effort. I would I would 2777 02:15:36.399 --> 02:15:39.319 learn please thank you, like, yeah, that stuff's real easy, 2778 02:15:39.520 --> 02:15:42.199 and then I would probably like where's the bathroom? And 2779 02:15:42.279 --> 02:15:42.960 I would be set. 2780 02:15:43.279 --> 02:15:45.720 So yeah, I feel like Japan is one of those 2781 02:15:45.720 --> 02:15:47.760 places where if you make the effort to earn a 2782 02:15:47.840 --> 02:15:52.720 little bit, the feedback loop on it is incredible. They 2783 02:15:52.760 --> 02:15:55.920 are like, oh my god, that is awesome. 2784 02:15:56.199 --> 02:15:59.399 Like anytime they're like a white guy speaks Japanese, don't 2785 02:15:59.399 --> 02:16:02.880 they just put them on TV automatically basically understand. Yeah. 2786 02:16:03.399 --> 02:16:06.600 I studied Japanese for like four years to learn how 2787 02:16:06.640 --> 02:16:08.479 to speak it well, and so like when I went 2788 02:16:08.560 --> 02:16:11.199 there and spoke it to people, they are just like 2789 02:16:11.880 --> 02:16:16.079 frozen in in Like in the moment they're like, oh 2790 02:16:16.199 --> 02:16:18.319 my god, because it's not even a white dude, it's 2791 02:16:18.439 --> 02:16:21.640 like a brown dude. So there firstly they're like, holy shit, 2792 02:16:21.760 --> 02:16:27.720 this Mexican guy is amazing Japanese. I'm just like, okay, yeah, 2793 02:16:28.560 --> 02:16:30.560 but yeah, it's it's it's it's one of those places 2794 02:16:30.560 --> 02:16:33.040 where so my best, my most the reason why I 2795 02:16:33.159 --> 02:16:35.959 love speaking in Japanese is because they all go out 2796 02:16:36.000 --> 02:16:40.239 of their way one too like acknowledge you, and if 2797 02:16:40.280 --> 02:16:43.399 you try and make mistakes, they understand it and will 2798 02:16:43.479 --> 02:16:46.360 help stuff like that. So I remember being in Japan 2799 02:16:47.000 --> 02:16:49.479 and I was me and Mike Mahardy were in a 2800 02:16:50.879 --> 02:16:53.520 like the hotel bar at the top where the our 2801 02:16:53.600 --> 02:16:55.520 hotel boy was staying, and we just had like got 2802 02:16:55.600 --> 02:16:57.479 together to just hang out and get a couple of 2803 02:16:57.559 --> 02:16:59.840 drinks and just chat for a little bit. And I 2804 02:17:00.000 --> 02:17:03.479 remember asking for the check at the end, and the 2805 02:17:03.600 --> 02:17:06.559 way it looked at me like what the fuck? Like 2806 02:17:06.719 --> 02:17:09.159 he was like I was saying the words and he 2807 02:17:09.280 --> 02:17:11.920 was like, ah, what is this guy saying? And like 2808 02:17:12.079 --> 02:17:15.719 he eventually like he figured it out, he realized what 2809 02:17:15.840 --> 02:17:18.440 was happening. He paid, we took paid stuff, and then 2810 02:17:18.479 --> 02:17:21.000 he came back and he was like, hey, man, I 2811 02:17:21.239 --> 02:17:25.040 just noticed that when you asked for the check the 2812 02:17:25.159 --> 02:17:28.040 wording was wrong. Do you want me to explain what 2813 02:17:28.239 --> 02:17:30.440 was wrong about it? And I was like absolutely yes. 2814 02:17:30.600 --> 02:17:33.280 He sat down and like wrote it down. I was like, 2815 02:17:33.360 --> 02:17:35.520 so what you said was this, which is correct word, 2816 02:17:36.040 --> 02:17:40.040 but it's used in this part of Japan more than here, 2817 02:17:40.399 --> 02:17:42.879 and like explained so if this is like can't say, 2818 02:17:43.000 --> 02:17:44.959 for example, so the one you want to use in 2819 02:17:45.639 --> 02:17:48.239 Tokyo is this one? Or if you go outside of 2820 02:17:48.319 --> 02:17:50.280 Tokyo Osaka, this is what you want to use. And 2821 02:17:50.360 --> 02:17:53.079 I was like that was incredible, Like this man just 2822 02:17:53.200 --> 02:17:55.319 like understand the language. 2823 02:17:55.360 --> 02:17:57.200 But that's the way to learn. Just go there and 2824 02:17:57.280 --> 02:17:59.120 that like when you say something, you have someone there 2825 02:17:59.159 --> 02:17:59.719 ready to correct you. 2826 02:18:00.040 --> 02:18:01.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. 2827 02:18:01.280 --> 02:18:02.000 It was so good. 2828 02:18:02.920 --> 02:18:05.280 I've never been, but I've heard both from people who 2829 02:18:05.280 --> 02:18:07.840 are fluent in Japanese and people who don't know a 2830 02:18:07.920 --> 02:18:11.120 word of it that Japan in particular is like a 2831 02:18:11.319 --> 02:18:13.959 place you could go if you're not super familiar with 2832 02:18:14.000 --> 02:18:16.760 the language. Yeah, both because they do learn English over there, 2833 02:18:16.799 --> 02:18:19.000 so there's a decent amount of English scare throughout it. 2834 02:18:19.239 --> 02:18:21.719 But also Google Translate has gone good enough to point 2835 02:18:21.760 --> 02:18:24.000 there where you know, just put up Google lens and 2836 02:18:24.079 --> 02:18:26.799 you can just real time translate signs and stuff. And 2837 02:18:26.879 --> 02:18:31.639 if you're doing touristy sort of stuff, that's how you know, 2838 02:18:31.760 --> 02:18:34.200 you don't need necessarily a real time translation of voice 2839 02:18:34.239 --> 02:18:36.200 or stuff, so you can't get around like that and 2840 02:18:36.280 --> 02:18:38.239 get to where you need to go where people might 2841 02:18:38.280 --> 02:18:41.440 be more accommodating to you, which is nice, I guess. Yeah. 2842 02:18:41.479 --> 02:18:43.360 And also like it's I found that a lot of 2843 02:18:43.399 --> 02:18:48.319 people there were eager to practice their English, so they 2844 02:18:48.360 --> 02:18:51.040 would ask they would ask you if they can speak 2845 02:18:51.079 --> 02:18:54.040 English to me, especially like cab drivers. When I got 2846 02:18:54.079 --> 02:18:56.280 into like taxis and stuff, and I would speak in Japanese, 2847 02:18:56.360 --> 02:18:58.440 I'll be like, oh, what language do you normally speak? 2848 02:18:58.440 --> 02:18:59.920 And if I said English, they'll be like, oh, can 2849 02:18:59.920 --> 02:19:02.159 I speak English to you? Because my English I'm learning 2850 02:19:02.319 --> 02:19:04.440 or it's not great, can you help me? So there's 2851 02:19:04.559 --> 02:19:07.559 like a wild like kind of language exchange thing that 2852 02:19:07.639 --> 02:19:10.840 happens when you're when you can speak okay Japanese with them, 2853 02:19:11.239 --> 02:19:13.399 which is really really cool. I really loved that part 2854 02:19:13.479 --> 02:19:16.959 of like language and immersing yourself in that language, and 2855 02:19:17.280 --> 02:19:21.239 Japanese is just the language I'm obsessed with anyway, beyond 2856 02:19:21.479 --> 02:19:23.479 just like picking it up from anime. It's just like 2857 02:19:23.559 --> 02:19:26.120 I feel like it's enjoyable to speak and it has 2858 02:19:26.200 --> 02:19:29.239 like a flow to it that I really love. But yeah, 2859 02:19:29.280 --> 02:19:30.600 it's it's one of those places where you can go 2860 02:19:30.639 --> 02:19:33.760 and people will definitely you'll get by fine. Everything is 2861 02:19:33.840 --> 02:19:36.719 like translated and even signs and stuff they have it 2862 02:19:36.799 --> 02:19:39.319 in Japanese they have like hiragana kakhana, and then also in. 2863 02:19:39.319 --> 02:19:44.000 English smaller side. But that just reminded me of when 2864 02:19:44.040 --> 02:19:46.959 I was at EVO this year and I talked to 2865 02:19:47.680 --> 02:19:50.840 Matsumoto sound a little bit from Capcom and just cultural 2866 02:19:50.879 --> 02:19:54.360 exchanges can be fun. Because I was getting ready to 2867 02:19:54.360 --> 02:19:57.159 talk to him through a translator and he looked at 2868 02:19:57.200 --> 02:19:59.879 my shirt and it was the Combo breaker shirt I 2869 02:20:00.120 --> 02:20:04.040 have where it's banksy but it's kimberly throwing a spray. 2870 02:20:05.159 --> 02:20:08.360 It was like, oh, Kimberly, Yeah, sure, it's awesome. 2871 02:20:08.639 --> 02:20:08.799 Man. 2872 02:20:09.000 --> 02:20:11.000 It's like having that moment they're like, oh, yeah, you 2873 02:20:11.079 --> 02:20:12.879 probably haven't seen much of this, like I know you 2874 02:20:12.959 --> 02:20:16.799 were at Combo Breaker, but yeah, like yeah, it's got 2875 02:20:16.840 --> 02:20:19.319 your character on is nicchol and like having those little 2876 02:20:19.360 --> 02:20:22.639 moments can be really fun. It's like international we're sharing 2877 02:20:22.639 --> 02:20:25.000 stuff like that. Yeah, but yeah. 2878 02:20:25.280 --> 02:20:29.280 Next email comes from Chris. He says, hey, bum Cast, 2879 02:20:29.360 --> 02:20:32.440 longtime listener, first time email. I have three kids, two 2880 02:20:32.559 --> 02:20:36.280 daughters four and six and one son four. They're still 2881 02:20:36.319 --> 02:20:38.879 little and I've slowly started introducing them to more and 2882 02:20:39.040 --> 02:20:42.920 more games as their abilities improve. Recently we've been getting 2883 02:20:42.959 --> 02:20:46.920 through Bugsnacks and they've absolutely ate it up. They're always 2884 02:20:46.959 --> 02:20:50.040 talking about the mystery of what happened to Ega Bell 2885 02:20:50.159 --> 02:20:53.600 and Lizba to anyone that will listen. But the most part, 2886 02:20:53.680 --> 02:20:55.959 it's been the eldest daughter playing the game, and she 2887 02:20:56.040 --> 02:20:59.040 struggles with confrontation in the game because she doesn't want 2888 02:20:59.040 --> 02:21:00.000 to hurt anyone's feet. 2889 02:21:00.399 --> 02:21:01.079 That's adorable. 2890 02:21:01.760 --> 02:21:05.000 Because of that, I usually have to handle the conversational 2891 02:21:05.120 --> 02:21:07.280 part of it and we're good to go. But what 2892 02:21:07.360 --> 02:21:09.559 I've come to realize is that the ending to this 2893 02:21:09.760 --> 02:21:12.520 game is a bit intense in terms of the body 2894 02:21:12.600 --> 02:21:15.920 horror of what happened to lizbet after disappearing and eating 2895 02:21:16.040 --> 02:21:18.920 too many of the snacks. My question is, how can 2896 02:21:19.000 --> 02:21:22.000 I get through this ending considering how sensitive my daughter 2897 02:21:22.159 --> 02:21:26.319 is towards just talking to NPCs without scoring her too much? 2898 02:21:26.760 --> 02:21:29.360 And what other games do you recommend for kids of 2899 02:21:29.479 --> 02:21:32.360 this age. Thanks for everything you do, and as someone 2900 02:21:32.399 --> 02:21:34.920 who has been listening since the Hosspot days, you guys 2901 02:21:35.079 --> 02:21:37.479 are always a shining light in the world of gaming, 2902 02:21:37.680 --> 02:21:40.159 so keep it up and keep it going. Sincerely, Chris, 2903 02:21:41.040 --> 02:21:42.840 I'm sorry, I just love it. As you said, shining 2904 02:21:42.879 --> 02:21:44.520 line gaming got the god. 2905 02:21:49.520 --> 02:21:50.319 I'm the shining light. 2906 02:21:52.799 --> 02:21:56.440 I think it's probably grub your probably best position to 2907 02:21:56.520 --> 02:21:56.879 answer this. 2908 02:21:57.840 --> 02:22:00.879 Yeah, I mean there's no Yeah, the kids are going 2909 02:22:00.920 --> 02:22:03.600 to be sensitive and you're probably gonna scar them, but 2910 02:22:04.799 --> 02:22:09.159 they're also usually surprisingly better at handling things than you realize. 2911 02:22:09.559 --> 02:22:11.639 But you maybe have to break through that seal a 2912 02:22:11.680 --> 02:22:14.440 little bit. I mean, there's no harm in Yeah, Like 2913 02:22:14.559 --> 02:22:16.520 I think let someone he was Lexi in chats, so 2914 02:22:16.680 --> 02:22:18.479 just make up your own ending things like that where 2915 02:22:19.440 --> 02:22:21.559 let them play in the runt of the space and decide, 2916 02:22:21.680 --> 02:22:23.879 like what the end of the story was yourself, That's 2917 02:22:23.879 --> 02:22:24.639 what it'll be fair. 2918 02:22:24.600 --> 02:22:27.280 In friends, Phoebe's mom did with old Yeller, just like, 2919 02:22:27.319 --> 02:22:29.399 oh yeah, turn the movie off ten minutes early, nothing 2920 02:22:29.479 --> 02:22:30.120 bad happens. 2921 02:22:30.799 --> 02:22:33.079 Yeah, I mean a certain extent, Yeah, why not? 2922 02:22:34.159 --> 02:22:36.559 I also, I don't know, maybe I'm being idealistic, but 2923 02:22:36.920 --> 02:22:39.840 as someone who has like younger family members that has 2924 02:22:40.000 --> 02:22:42.920 considered this stuff, I think like, give them the option 2925 02:22:43.360 --> 02:22:45.520 is a way to approach it as well. Like you 2926 02:22:45.639 --> 02:22:47.719 can sit down with her and be like, hey, I 2927 02:22:47.799 --> 02:22:50.040 know you've been ready loving this game. We're reaching the 2928 02:22:50.239 --> 02:22:52.120 end of the game. There's going to be an ending. 2929 02:22:52.399 --> 02:22:54.440 The ending is a little bit intense. I know you 2930 02:22:54.520 --> 02:22:57.920 don't like some of the confrontational parts of it. There 2931 02:22:58.000 --> 02:22:59.920 might be some element of that and it could be 2932 02:23:00.120 --> 02:23:03.559 quite scary. Do you want to play that? Do you 2933 02:23:03.639 --> 02:23:05.639 want to watch it instead? Or do you want to 2934 02:23:05.760 --> 02:23:07.559 just you know, make up your own ending so so 2935 02:23:07.639 --> 02:23:09.639 you don't have to experience it. I think if you 2936 02:23:09.719 --> 02:23:12.719 put the choice into their hands and let them control 2937 02:23:12.799 --> 02:23:16.239 the circumstances, that helps in even if they go into 2938 02:23:16.319 --> 02:23:18.440 it being like hey, I want to do this. It 2939 02:23:18.559 --> 02:23:20.760 empowers them to know that, hey, I asked to be 2940 02:23:20.840 --> 02:23:23.760 in this situation, so I should deal with it as 2941 02:23:23.840 --> 02:23:26.159 best as I can. And also it means that they're 2942 02:23:26.200 --> 02:23:28.159 aware of the fact that since you gave them the 2943 02:23:28.239 --> 02:23:32.360 option to go in, you also have given me option 2944 02:23:32.520 --> 02:23:34.639 to leave it. So if they suddenly decide I don't 2945 02:23:34.719 --> 02:23:37.000 like this, they won't feel afraid of being like, hey, 2946 02:23:37.040 --> 02:23:39.159 I don't like this, can we actually dip out? 2947 02:23:40.200 --> 02:23:42.440 Yep? And that would work. I think they said a 2948 02:23:43.280 --> 02:23:46.079 bour and six on a six side of things that 2949 02:23:46.159 --> 02:23:48.719 all that stuff would work for is like so that like, 2950 02:23:48.840 --> 02:23:52.079 they are not capable of understanding the consequences of any action, 2951 02:23:52.600 --> 02:23:56.120 let alone their choices. So you definitely still want to 2952 02:23:56.120 --> 02:23:58.280 put the choice in their hands to like to teach 2953 02:23:58.360 --> 02:24:00.200 them that that is something that they have power over. 2954 02:24:00.920 --> 02:24:03.360 But you're probably getting a situation where they're still going 2955 02:24:03.440 --> 02:24:04.760 to get mad at you if you did if you 2956 02:24:04.840 --> 02:24:06.399 if they see something they didn't want to see, and 2957 02:24:06.440 --> 02:24:08.520 they think that you have some responsibility in that now, 2958 02:24:09.079 --> 02:24:10.840 So what to a certain extent, They're gonna see stuff 2959 02:24:10.879 --> 02:24:13.600 like that all the time. And you know, my kids 2960 02:24:13.639 --> 02:24:17.479 watch sad movies or experience things in games, and sometimes 2961 02:24:17.559 --> 02:24:20.280 that they find upsetting and they bounce back quick because 2962 02:24:20.319 --> 02:24:22.799 their kids, and that's what they're meant to do. They're 2963 02:24:22.840 --> 02:24:23.719 meant to bounce back. Yeah. 2964 02:24:24.000 --> 02:24:26.559 So I also also, I don't ascribe by the thing 2965 02:24:26.600 --> 02:24:29.319 where it's like, hey, everything you know sucks, so we 2966 02:24:29.399 --> 02:24:31.479 might as well get them used to it now. It's like, yeah, man, 2967 02:24:31.840 --> 02:24:34.479 that's true, Like why should when we have the situation, 2968 02:24:34.600 --> 02:24:37.680 when we have the ability to control how they or 2969 02:24:37.840 --> 02:24:41.559 help them navigate this stuff that could potentially suck in 2970 02:24:41.639 --> 02:24:45.120 a healthy way, you should take that opportunity because they 2971 02:24:45.200 --> 02:24:47.360 often won't have that in the out world, you know, 2972 02:24:47.520 --> 02:24:49.799 in the rest of life, they will just have that 2973 02:24:49.920 --> 02:24:53.680 stuff thrust upon them. So having a situation where you 2974 02:24:53.719 --> 02:24:56.440 can train them to deal with this stuff and negotiate 2975 02:24:56.520 --> 02:25:00.399 it mentally in a you know, practice way, like let 2976 02:25:00.479 --> 02:25:02.440 them have that as well. Like that's I think that 2977 02:25:02.440 --> 02:25:03.440 will be helpful for them. 2978 02:25:03.959 --> 02:25:06.600 I think that's right. Other good games Piku Niku is 2979 02:25:06.680 --> 02:25:11.280 one that my kids constantly go back to Breath the 2980 02:25:11.319 --> 02:25:13.399 Wild and Tears of the Kingdom. Surprisingly, they love that. 2981 02:25:13.479 --> 02:25:15.200 They just love going around and doing stuff in those 2982 02:25:15.239 --> 02:25:17.399 worlds and deciding like what their own adventures are going 2983 02:25:17.440 --> 02:25:20.479 to be. They very rarely interact with the main game. 2984 02:25:20.559 --> 02:25:22.959 They just go in the world and decide today i 2985 02:25:23.040 --> 02:25:26.360 am gonna collect eighty horses and I'm gonna them to 2986 02:25:26.440 --> 02:25:29.479 name them. Yeah uh and yes, so that that that's 2987 02:25:29.520 --> 02:25:31.719 worked really well. And then you know a lot of 2988 02:25:31.760 --> 02:25:35.079 the normal stuff Mario Son yea, all that stuff. Her 2989 02:25:35.159 --> 02:25:39.840 kids like Minecraft, kids like Minecraft. Yes on the street Yeah, yeah, 2990 02:25:40.159 --> 02:25:41.440 as I've heard that said before. 2991 02:25:41.559 --> 02:25:43.360 Yeah, I mean like it also kind of depends on 2992 02:25:43.440 --> 02:25:45.159 what kind of games they want, because Steam is full 2993 02:25:45.200 --> 02:25:49.000 of like low you know, low drama. 2994 02:25:49.239 --> 02:25:52.680 You find out, Yeah, you find a cat simulator, Yeah, 2995 02:25:52.799 --> 02:25:54.159 I mean unity. 2996 02:25:54.440 --> 02:25:56.799 Yeah, I've been playing Willmot works Out, which is just 2997 02:25:56.840 --> 02:26:00.559 like a game about putting puzzles together, and it's been 2998 02:26:00.680 --> 02:26:03.440 really enjoyable and it has like a cute little story. 2999 02:26:04.559 --> 02:26:06.079 That kind of thing is really easy to find. But 3000 02:26:06.120 --> 02:26:07.639 if it's a case of, like you want a little 3001 02:26:07.719 --> 02:26:11.559 more something similar to Bugs next, that's tricky to find. 3002 02:26:11.600 --> 02:26:14.479 But I feel like going back is easier to find 3003 02:26:14.520 --> 02:26:16.840 that stuff like a banjo kazui, that kind of thing 3004 02:26:17.399 --> 02:26:21.000 pretty easy to find, more palatable, collectith on style games 3005 02:26:21.040 --> 02:26:22.760 for them to cut their teeth on. 3006 02:26:22.920 --> 02:26:25.200 And yeah, they just like to do stuff like they 3007 02:26:25.440 --> 02:26:28.280 like to affect the world. So a game like Donut County, right, 3008 02:26:28.319 --> 02:26:30.479 where like I'm moving this whole around and it's getting 3009 02:26:30.479 --> 02:26:32.840 bigger and things get solid up in it. Stuff like 3010 02:26:32.920 --> 02:26:34.840 that really works. But then there's like a million of 3011 02:26:35.000 --> 02:26:37.520 clones of that where it's like holes dot Io where 3012 02:26:38.000 --> 02:26:40.000 you just go on there and play online to try 3013 02:26:40.040 --> 02:26:41.600 to make the bigger and bigger hole and they love 3014 02:26:41.639 --> 02:26:43.280 that stuff too, and that stuff's free and right there. 3015 02:26:43.360 --> 02:26:45.360 Yeah, it could be my nephew, just go ahead. 3016 02:26:45.440 --> 02:26:50.000 It was like six is recently discovered goat simulator and 3017 02:26:50.200 --> 02:26:50.920 hasn't been a big it. 3018 02:26:51.639 --> 02:26:54.479 Based on the description of what she likes, I'm willing 3019 02:26:54.520 --> 02:26:56.239 to bet she probably and you will enjoy something like 3020 02:26:56.280 --> 02:26:59.600 animal crossing or you know, just like interacting with characters 3021 02:26:59.719 --> 02:27:05.079 no real kind of like you know, world ending stakes 3022 02:27:05.239 --> 02:27:08.520 on on in the just speaking and you know, having 3023 02:27:08.600 --> 02:27:11.239 fun and creating your own stories. So I bet that 3024 02:27:11.280 --> 02:27:12.879 would be something they would enjoy. 3025 02:27:13.760 --> 02:27:15.879 Grub did you say holes dot Io? 3026 02:27:16.319 --> 02:27:18.239 Yes, yeah, then is that not what it is? 3027 02:27:18.440 --> 02:27:20.280 Well, I went there and it told me to turn 3028 02:27:20.319 --> 02:27:22.399 off my app blocker, which I obliged, and when I did, 3029 02:27:22.799 --> 02:27:25.760 it just served me an ad for plumbing repairs. 3030 02:27:25.799 --> 02:27:29.959 So it could be hold dot Io. I gotta be honest, 3031 02:27:30.000 --> 02:27:35.639 they all look the same to me. That like Disney, Yeah, 3032 02:27:35.719 --> 02:27:38.760 there's different, it's and honestly that it's an app that 3033 02:27:38.840 --> 02:27:41.360 they play on the Amazon Fire tablets. So I'm like, 3034 02:27:41.479 --> 02:27:43.959 are they just naming it after those dot Io games 3035 02:27:44.040 --> 02:27:45.360 that are like everywhere? I don't know. 3036 02:27:46.719 --> 02:27:50.520 Next question. The next email comes from d W from Seattle. 3037 02:27:50.840 --> 02:27:54.319 Just as Motherfucker's play Missed. Play all of them. They're great. 3038 02:27:54.360 --> 02:27:56.959 They're challenging and required to pay attention and make notes, 3039 02:27:57.040 --> 02:27:59.719 but they're better than pretty much any puzzle game that 3040 02:27:59.799 --> 02:28:01.239 came amount. Since that's fair. 3041 02:28:02.719 --> 02:28:05.760 I've been hearing very good things about that Riven remake 3042 02:28:06.079 --> 02:28:07.719 that came out this year. Seems like it's kind of 3043 02:28:07.840 --> 02:28:12.239 like the sleeper hit of the year. Maybe I keep 3044 02:28:12.280 --> 02:28:13.799 threatening to get At some point, I'm gonna do a 3045 02:28:13.840 --> 02:28:14.799 miss series playthrough. 3046 02:28:15.000 --> 02:28:17.479 That was one of the initial things we were thinking 3047 02:28:17.520 --> 02:28:21.440 of doing instead of Days Sean was Monday Mornings Missed 3048 02:28:21.479 --> 02:28:21.959 with Mitch. 3049 02:28:22.959 --> 02:28:25.120 We can do it on Mondays, right, So it just 3050 02:28:25.319 --> 02:28:29.399 was never going to be as good Enoption A, and 3051 02:28:29.520 --> 02:28:30.559 that brings I got. 3052 02:28:32.120 --> 02:28:33.440 I'm just gonna say, I gotta be honest, I just 3053 02:28:33.479 --> 02:28:36.719 started playing hold out io. I'm doing it right now. 3054 02:28:36.959 --> 02:28:39.399 There we go. My name is Player and I'm pink. 3055 02:28:39.440 --> 02:28:41.680 If anyone wants to get in there. Well, I I 3056 02:28:41.799 --> 02:28:45.120 just swallowed up a policewoman fell in Okay. 3057 02:28:44.920 --> 02:28:49.600 Well, just playing hold on. I will take this podcast home. 3058 02:28:51.639 --> 02:28:54.440 And oh my god, a giant Johnny depp hoole. Just 3059 02:28:54.559 --> 02:28:57.280 it's gonna swallow me. What is happening? What is this game? 3060 02:28:59.799 --> 02:29:01.520 But before we start wrapping up, we want to give 3061 02:29:01.520 --> 02:29:04.520 a shout out to our good friend friend of the show, 3062 02:29:04.680 --> 02:29:10.799 Imran Khan. I'm hoping you're doing well and on the mend, 3063 02:29:12.719 --> 02:29:16.159 look forward to hopefully chating to you again soon. But 3064 02:29:16.319 --> 02:29:21.239 beyond that, thank you everyone for listening to the show. 3065 02:29:21.399 --> 02:29:23.360 What have we got going for the rest of the week. 3066 02:29:23.399 --> 02:29:24.719 It's a short week. 3067 02:29:26.639 --> 02:29:28.479 Thanksgiving this week, I. 3068 02:29:28.520 --> 02:29:30.399 Don't think, is it. We don't have anything planned for 3069 02:29:30.440 --> 02:29:33.559 tomorrow right what we're going to. 3070 02:29:36.079 --> 02:29:38.319 I'm having dump truck tomorrow to close out the week, 3071 02:29:38.399 --> 02:29:40.719 and then yeah, we have off Thursday and Friday. 3072 02:29:40.559 --> 02:29:44.040 Yep, so we'll be back next week for another full week. 3073 02:29:45.399 --> 02:29:49.159 So yeah, enjoy your weeks everyone, take it easy, rest up, 3074 02:29:49.239 --> 02:29:51.399 eat loads of food or whatever goes. 3075 02:29:51.280 --> 02:29:54.200 On, grow up. 3076 02:29:54.239 --> 02:29:58.399 Thank you for joining us, Thanks for having me Mitch, 3077 02:29:58.600 --> 02:30:00.879 you two, thank you for on us once again. 3078 02:30:01.200 --> 02:30:03.399 Yeah, it's always good hanging out. 3079 02:30:03.360 --> 02:30:09.040 With your tembo Sean. Thank you time all right, We'll 3080 02:30:09.079 --> 02:30:18.079 see you again next week. Until then, keep gaming mm 3081 02:30:18.159 --> 02:30:30.959 hmmmmmmmm