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Speaker 2: Love to hear your stories, so definitely get in touch

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with me, ladies and gentlemen. Several times through the years,

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and I like to bring them over to here to

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the podcast audience so you guys can enjoy those discussions

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as well. And this episode is a really fun one.

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It's a Jody Cook, who was one of the key

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figures in the dog man community in the United States

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and probably the world. He joined me on the live

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stream and we had a great discussion about all things

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dog man and had a good time. So I was like, well,

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let's bring that over here to the podcast so you

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guys can enjoy it as well. So buckle up for

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part one of two episodes that will be coming forward

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about my discussion with Jody Cook and the incredible dog Man.

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All right, ladies and gentlemen, hang on, we're going in.

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We are joined today by a gentleman that probably needs

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absolutely no introduction because he has been one of the

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driving forces in the dog man field for a long

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time and cryptozoology in general. Just an incredibly nice guy,

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and it's his first appearance on the show. But he

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is the founder of the North American dog Man Project.

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He is an author and avid researcher himself, and he

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is here to talk all things dog man encryptids. So,

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ladies and gentlemen, we're going to dive into it right away.

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Let me introduce to you. For any of you that

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might not know who's here, we are welcoming mister Jody

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Cook to the show. Hello, Jody, How.

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Speaker 3: You doing pretty good? How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing excellent. I'm really excited that you're here because

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dog man is a topic that there's it's you know,

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like with bigfoot stories, with ghost stories, with UFO stories,

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there's a ton of claims and stuff out there, and

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I think there's a lot of dog man stuff out

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there as well. But I love the topic of dog man.

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But as a as a show host, and as a

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person that does a show, it's tough to find those

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people like yourself. I think when it comes to dogmen,

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we have a lot of questions and there's a lot

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of a lot of different routes of information that go

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on in this topic. And so I'm really thrilled that

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you're here to kind of straighten it out and take

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us on your journey. So thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you for being here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely so. And I asked you this before

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the show, But I think this is always a big

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curiosity for me, and I'm sure the audience will will

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agree with this. But where did this start for you?

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How did how did Jodie Cook end up going down

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these rabbit holes and doing this journey?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: God? Actually, when I was a kid it all started.

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was this huge UFO flap that was going across the

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country and we were in our class and the art

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teachers like draw us a picture of what you think

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alien and UFO looks like and stuff, and it was

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gateway drug for a lot of people into this world.

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of the right above the branches, part of it was

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hands up. And you know, I remember it was raining

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and it was lighting lightning, and the things out the window.

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Speaker 3: Makes it fun, you know. The the unknown and the

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chills that it puts down your spine and things. That's

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what makes it fun, and that that makes you more

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and more interested, you know, in the subject because now

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you want answers. And you know, I kind of ran

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back into it. And you know, it was always there,

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and do more things and do investigations and so forth.

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nineteen eighty five. And that was like the very first

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time I heard about the alleged LBL massacre. Yeah, I

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was on the Sheriff's apartment at the time, and I

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remember I was down in uh, Kentucky on a seminar,

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police seminar, and I was down there, uh just listening

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to it and talking with other people. And then Nason

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really good friends with some different police officers, and excuse me,

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we went out get it, you know, some drinks, and

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then we just started talking about some you know, crazy stuff.

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Excuse me. You know that we saw and the one

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officer he is, uh, we you know, I got a

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call for this attack that took place that you know,

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laying between the lakes, and I was one of the

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officers that responded there, not one of the initial officers,

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but one of the many officers that ended up showing up.

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you know, the mother and the father was killed. Uh

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you know, a little girl was missing. And here's the

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thing about the LBL stuff. The legend is that you know,

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it was the mother, father, the son, and a daughter. Okay, well,

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this officer never mentioned the son at all. He only

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mentioned the mother and a father, you know, the missing

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daughter because they found clothing of a little girl. And

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he talked about how one of the officers found the child,

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you know, mounted in a tree. And the father, you know,

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was ripped apart. His arm was ripped off and he

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had some hair in his arm his hand, and the

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mother was killed inside the trader or the camper brother,

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and she was like basically she was killed by the

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door and the door was busted in. So they believed

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that she was trying to protect the little girl that

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was hidden in the room. And this thing killed her

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and then got into the room and grabbed the child.

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I ever heard that story. And this this event allegedly

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happened like in nineteen eighty two, maybe nineteen eighty three,

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into it and I started going down Land between the

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Lakes and talking to other people and through the whole process,

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you know, I probably talked to maybe six or seven

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different police officers who stated they were there, but I

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was taken to two different locations where the incident allegedly happened.

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And that was kind of the problem with the Land

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between the Lakes master is that you know, you talk

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to people who say they were there, but you know,

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you're looking at two different locations, you know, and things

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and it's hard, you know, to try and do an investigation.

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you're taking their work right, you know, this is what happened,

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But at night it kind of just can discover things

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because both locations, like we're really close to each other. Okay, okay, okay,

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so that probably could have been the problem, you know there.

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was really getting into the you know, the dog man stuff,

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and that's basically how started.

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Speaker 2: So let me let me just you know, address the

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elephant in the room because some people, some people are

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even saying, oh, that never happened, nothing ever happened to

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Land between the Lakes. It's it's fiction. Then you get

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the variations of the story. But did it happen in

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your estimation like there was this was a real event

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that occurred.

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Speaker 3: In my opinion. Okay, I've been to Land between the

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Lakes three dozen times. Okay, Okay, I've talked to dozens

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of people. Okay, there's to be honest with you, Okay,

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there's there's maybe four maybe five researchers that's actually done

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hardcore research at LBL. Okay, it was myself, Barton Nutley,

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Tim Coombo, JG. J C. Johnson, and J. C. Johnson

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was like really the first on the ground when this

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incident actually happened. So so we're of the most has

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actually done more stuff at LBL from the beginning. Okay,

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now you've got a lot of people help out, holler.

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They're doing a fantastic job down there at LBL. But

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all the people are talking have done, I'm on a

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fifty to fifty that it actually happened. Okay, Okay, Now,

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did something happen at LBL? I believe something did happen? Okay?

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Is there something there at LBL? Yes, there are definitely

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something there. I found a lot of signs that there's

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something there. But when it comes to the massacre itself, Okay,

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there's so many people that has investigated it, so many

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different stories, everything has changed. I just I found no

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physical evidence that it actually happened other than word of mouth.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: I could be wrong. I could be one hundred percent wrong,

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But you know, like I said, investigating it since nineteen

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eighty five, I'm on the mix that I'm fifty to

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fifty on it happened and it didn't happen. But I'm

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positive something did happen here. Okay, Okay, Now, let me

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let me go a little bit further, if you don't mind.

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Speaker 2: No, it's all the floor's years.

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Speaker 3: Now. We had a gentleman contact us who was dying

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of cancer. Okay. Now, he worked for the state of

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Kentucky and he did some stuff at LBL. Okay, didn't

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work for LBL, but he has done stuff at LBL. Now,

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playing between lakes is probably some of the best fishing

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in Kentucky. A lot of people go there to fish. Okay,

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he went fishing one morning, got there about four in

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the morning, say to about seven. It was getting colder.

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there's fog on the river. So he gets in his

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boat and he's going along the shoreline. Now this is

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in nineteen seventy nine. Okay, this was you know what

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four years something like that before the alleged massacre. So

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this guy's given us his deathbed confession. We have it

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on tape. And so he talks about he's going along

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the shoreline because it's foggy, and he sees a truck,

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and he sees a tent, and then he sees something

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which he thinks is a horse by the tent. Okay,

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because it's on all fours. As he's getting closer, he

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sees that this thing is standing up and it's not

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a horse. And you know, he's only going you know,

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you know, engine boat there, and he's close enough to

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the shoreline, he's able to see this thing, okay. And

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he describes it, you know as you know, a head

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like a hyena, kind of like with almost like a

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lion's mange, you know, dog legs, you know, kind of

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a dog body, and it's standing by this tent. He said.

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the tent and he's you know, yelling at him, you know,

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look behind you, look behind you. And he said they

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were like looking at him, you know, they waved at him.

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And he said, this thing just pous these two people.

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And he said, I'm sitting in this boat watching this

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thing kill these two people. Oh God, and they're screaming

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and he said, I literally urinated all over myself. I

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was that scared. And he goes, I passed out and

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I wake up. My boat is up against a on

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tree that was on you know, the lake there, and

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so he gets back. He doesn't report it, okay, because

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he said, let me, let me explain this to you.

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He says, everybody knew there's something in that park and

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people are getting hurt. No one's allowed to talk about it.

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You talk about it, you lose your job, plain and simple, okay, okay.

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So he would gradually talk to people like, hey, I

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heard there was a bear attack here. Did you hear

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anything about it? You know type thing. He would look

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at newspaper articles just kind of see if something came about,

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because he goes, you know, there's two families that literally

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lost somebody and they have no idea what happened to him. Yeah, okay.

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So he lived with this for years and he verified

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who he was. He showed us all his l e.

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S forums, which were like government paycheck, you know, type

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forms and stuff, his retirement ID, his awards, things like that.

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So he verified that he did work there, and he

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had enough physical weaponists to show who he was. And

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so he's dying of cancer and and kind of ironic,

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he's sitting there in the interviews smoking and the guy's,

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you know, of cancer, and it's just like, you know,

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I'm dying of cancer. You know, who cares?

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Speaker 2: You know, Quentin's probably not gonna help at that point.

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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's not you know. So

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it's like okay, you know, and you know, he goes,

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I couldn't because I can't live with this any longer,

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because I feel I'm not going to be able to

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go into heaven because I kept this secret, and he goes,

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I'm very for my family's life, you know too. And so,

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like I said, he gave us his story, that you know, confession,

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and we have it on tape and we showed it

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a couple of times. I think it's on our YouTube channel.

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Oh yeah, I believe that it's on there. And yeah,

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he died about two weeks after the interview.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank god you got that recorded though, because

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that's that's that's an important piece of history, you know, it.

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Speaker 3: Is, you know. But the thing, like you said, you know,

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we know this the event happened with him. So I'm thinking,

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could the masco at LBL be these two people that

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he saw killed? Okay, did you know did something I

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actually happened? Because here's the thing. He told us where

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the exact site was. Okay, where the exact site was.

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So we found it. And what's so odd about it

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The road that leads there. LBL put like a pile

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of rocks and dirt and everything. You can't go in

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that area anymore if they just like completely blocked it off.

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And it's like been there, you know for years, because

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the pile of rocks and the dirt and everything is

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like one big formation now. I mean you would have

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to get a sledgehammer just to break it up, you know.

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So you were able to walk in there, but you

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can't drive. But the area where it happened, you can

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see that they literally dug up about fifteen feet of

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the shoreline, pushing the back fifteen feet and about three

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feet down in this one area. And you can you

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when you look at the area, you can see how

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this one particular area was just whatever what was there,

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They scooped it all up and got rid of any

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type of evidence and they just planted a bunch of

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trees there. So, yeah, it was It was really weird

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because there there was there was landmarks that that was

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there that he knew that was there at that site

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where it happened, and he told us about the landmarks

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what to look for, and he told us, you know,

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this is where I was fishing at. There was a

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bridge there where you can go under the bridge and

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go into a small cove. Now the bridge is gone

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and it's it's like a road now. So there's two

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different parts of the lake now. And he said, you know,

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once you turn out, you know, you go, you know,

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so many and you'll see this landmark and then you'll

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see this landmark and this is where it's at. And

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that's how we found it.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing, you know, I gotta wonder what why, What

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would be the motivation for the park system to cover

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up such a danger, you know, because people will continue

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to visit this this area for recreation, for fishing, like

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you said, and and all of these other, you know,

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benign activities. But you're rolling the dice kind of if you're.

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Speaker 3: See, here's the thing there. There's another incident to happen

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at LBL. Okay, there is this story and there was

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there was actual press release about it, Okay that LBL

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put out. And there was a hunter that a bow

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hunter that was killed allegedly at land between the lakes Okay,

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And well we found the spot where allegedly happened. But

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the story is that he was his campsite. The beast

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the land between the lace grabbed him, killed him, broke

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this bow that can't be broken into, dragged a body

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a mile, took him into an area and fed on them. Okay.

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So that's that's the story, and a lot of people

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on the internet and YouTube are talking about this story.

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You know, this is what I talked to park rangers

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and all these witnesses that recovered a body and this

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is a story. Well, we kind of proved that story

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to be fake because we actually had we actually talked

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to the family of the individual that died. Okay, okay, yeah,

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we actually and and we have the you know, we

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have the picture of the bow and the tent and

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all of his property and stuff, and so all that

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stuff is faith. But what happened was his body was

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in a soybean field and predators actually ate on his

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body because he was there for two days. I think,

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oh yeah, and so but the wife believes, in her opinion,

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that he was accidentally killed on a hunting accident. Now, well,

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people don't realize LBL is one big honting Areah Okay,

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it's one huge honeting area. You know, you could be camping,

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you can hear a gunfire, you know, right next to you,

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because it's it's one big honeting area. And she believes

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he was accidentally killed and the person that killed him

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didn't know he killed him, and he fell in the

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spot there and predators ate on his body, and you know,

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she believes LBL was covering that up because they don't

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want the fact that, you know, hunting accident happened and

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it would be easier for them to say it was

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a hunting accident than them saying he died of a

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heart attack. Yeah, okay, Now this is where the story

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becomes the legend. Okay. The wife said that she was

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not allowed to see the body. Oh okay, when the

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body went to the more, she wasn't allowed to see it.

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When the body went to the funeral home, it was

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a closed casket. They wouldn't open the casket. So she

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has a family member that is a medical doctor, so

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she asked him, can you go talk to the corner

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and find out what is going on? So he, you know,

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she said, he went to the corner. They came back

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and told her to leave it alone. Oh wow. And yeah,

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so yeah that that that's the story on you know

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the bow hunter, because like I said, I mean we

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went down there and talked to her. You know, she

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showed us, you know who the guy was. It was

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the same you know person from the press release that

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was put out from lb L. You know, she had

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all his property, she had his tent, everything, his camping gear,

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all that stuff that was recovering, even the boat, and

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the boat was not damaged. So that this is how

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these stories start, okay, you know, and this is what

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makes the massacre at lb L questionable because you you

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have a lot of people that say they were there

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that weren't there and they're given the story, and then

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you have a bunch of people who work for the

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park that say, oh, yeah, this is happening and probably

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didn't happen. And and that's the problem, that's the biggest

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problem that you know, everybody's having when they go down LBL.

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But you know, uh, that's all part of you know,

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dealing with uh yeah, with dog Man, you know, and

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this stuff. And you know, we got i mean, we

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got crap from people because we came out with the

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story that you know, this is this is what happened.

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I mean, we talked to the family. You know, the

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family came to us. We didn't go to them, They

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came to us. And yeah, and you know, because they

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they truly believe he was killed in a hunting accident

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and LBL is covering up. That's that's their belief. They

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don't believe that he was killed by some monster. She

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can understand the fact that, you know, he was eaten

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on by editors and stuff, and his body was pretty

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missed up. That's why they didn't have an open casket.

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But the fact that she was angry that she was

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not allowed to see him in that the corner, and

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you know, the park and other law enforcement agencies made

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it sound like it's a cover up, okay, you know,

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and it would have been just easier just to say, hey,

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this is what happened. But at times I think, you know,

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LBL wants this stuff. They want this crazy stories to

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go out. You know, like I said, we got crap

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from other researchers who are like, really pete off at us,

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you know, because of you know, we came out with

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the story this is what happened. And it's like, don't

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get angry with us. You know, they came to us.

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You know. If you want to believe he was killed

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by a dog man, that's that's on you, you know.

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But that's a part of being an investigator, that's a

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part of doing the job, is that you you're going

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to find out ninety percent of the time there's a

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reasonable explanation for what happened.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I think that's probably true for any

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of this. Uh, you know, certainly the paranormal umbrella, like

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you've got to be able to open, be open to

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all eventualities. Otherwise you're you're you're biased, you've got a bius.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's a problem with the field. Yeah, it's

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a problem with bigfoot fielding. You know, they don't they

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don't want to be wrong. They don't want to be

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proven wrong. You know, it's okay to be proven wrong,

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you you you know, you get back up and you

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do better next time. But that that, like you said,

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that's the biggest problem that you know you're going to

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find in the field is that, you know, there are

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too many people that go out looking for bigfoot, looking

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for cryptids, and they're going to find all kinds of

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evidence that's not really evidence because that's what they want

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to look for and that's what they find, you know,

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And that that's that's the problem. And they don't vet

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people who they talk to. Who are you know, allege

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witnesses and things. But that you know, But the thing

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about you asked, you know, why would they want to

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cover up things? And this is what it If I

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could talk to the officials at LBL. This is what

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I would say to them. Okay, if you want this

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crap to stop, monetize it. Okay, monetize it. Have little

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stuff beasts of the land between the lakes and your

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gift shops, t shirts. Have someone do story time because

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right by all the the little stores, they have all

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these little areas where they do story time. Do storytime,

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you know, monetize it, okay, and then people, you know

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are going to say, oh, they're just making a buck off.

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It's not real, you know, And that's that's exactly what

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Salt Fork State Park in Ohio. Did you know there's

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tons of sidings at that park. What did they do?

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They monetized it. They have a Bigfoot conference there.

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Speaker 5: Once a year, and they you know, get they go

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into the black, you know, uh from that conference. You know,

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they make all their money up that one that one

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weekend for that conference. They you know, they have bigfoot

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stuff all in this gift shop, books, you know everything.

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Speaker 3: They have a guy running around, you know, wearing a

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bigfoot costume. Sure, they monetize it, and they're making money

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off of it, and it really didn't stop all the

470
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,680
people there You're looking for Bigfoot because it brings all

471
00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:15,039
kinds of people in. It's money to be made at

472
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:21,759
the lodge, the store, local businesses outside. You know, they're

473
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,799
jumping into it and getting all kinds of Bigfoot memorabilia. Yeah,

474
00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:29,599
and it's a money making pain that's fascinating.

475
00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: So just out of curiosity, and this is I think

476
00:33:34,759 --> 00:33:37,920
you're you'res qualified to answer this as probably anybody I've

477
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,240
ever talked to, But in your in your opinion, when

478
00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:45,440
you're when you're thinking of the dog man, where where

479
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,519
did it come from? Because I've heard all kinds of

480
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:51,759
different potential origin stories to you know, carryovers from the

481
00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:59,319
ancient world, like the sinocephaly, uh, possibly some human engineering experimentation,

482
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:04,480
possibly something else, maybe transdimensional, spiritual. And I'm not sure

483
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,480
where you're at with this, but I am curious because

484
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,239
there doesn't seem to be and don't I don't. I'm

485
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,360
not a really big proponent of Oh, the fossil record

486
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,840
is the one big authority, but there doesn't seem to

487
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:20,360
be any other lineage discernible through what we know of

488
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,239
the fossil record at this point. So where did these

489
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,599
come from? In your opinion? Or do you have an opinion.

490
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,039
Speaker 3: Well, I do have an opinion because no one really

491
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:35,280
knows that. That's the mystery of it. You know. You

492
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:40,239
take Linda Goffrey, she's like the godmother of dog Man

493
00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:44,880
and she doesn't even know, right, you know her her

494
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,519
best explanation was it was some type of breed of

495
00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:53,480
K nine that was capable of walking on two legs. Okay,

496
00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:56,880
you know, and that's that's the possibility. Now, a lot

497
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,719
of people think that, you know, these things are engineered,

498
00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:04,079
you know, military weapons and stuff like. I don't buy that.

499
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,199
I believe this is a species that has always been here,

500
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:13,960
like bigfoot. I believe they were in small numbers, they

501
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:19,159
were very well hidden, they were able to blend themselves

502
00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:23,599
in with you know, domestic wolves and so forth. I

503
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:29,519
think it's a complete different species that just evolved. Yeah,

504
00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:34,000
you know, I mean that's the best exclamation I think,

505
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:39,360
you know, anybody can come up with. But now, you know,

506
00:35:41,159 --> 00:35:46,280
the numbers and the sightings have just gotten boom boom boom,

507
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:52,639
year after year after year after year, and it's just

508
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,480
I don't know, it's just is it because of you know,

509
00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:04,159
we're expanding into wilderness and that's you know, with housing

510
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,639
and so forth past and it is that's why it's happening.

511
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,719
It's a really good possibility. Maybe the numbers are just

512
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:18,159
getting bigger and bigger and bigger. Sure, but it's it's

513
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,320
you know, it's it's it's hard to say, it's it's

514
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,400
mind boggling, to be honest with you.

515
00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but I just think it's interesting because you know,

516
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,719
I mean, it certainly is a well there's been legends

517
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,840
of where wolf and other kenid humanoid type of things

518
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,480
through a long history around the world, and so it

519
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,880
does seem to be that they're that they're you know,

520
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,920
they've been around and then you look at like skin

521
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,920
walkers as well. So there's lots of variations of it.

522
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,239
But I was just curious because you know, again there's

523
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,599
a lot of people making a lot of claims. But yeah,

524
00:36:53,639 --> 00:36:55,599
I like your answer. Honestly, we just don't know.

525
00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,599
Speaker 3: But well, here's one a fairy I kinding came up

526
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:03,719
with I because I read this book called the Hollow

527
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:08,360
Earth Theory and it talked about you know, a whole

528
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:13,880
different world inside of our Earth where I had different

529
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,880
type of creatures and people and things like that. I'm like,

530
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:22,519
you know, maybe these cryptids are from hollow Earth, and

531
00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:26,320
that's you've never seen them. You know, they're coming up

532
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:32,119
and expanding more. That's a possibility. It kind of makes

533
00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:36,320
sense a little bit. But but you know, you get

534
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:42,559
a lot of sightings that are like indimensual sidings, supernatural sightings.

535
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:49,559
We've gotten extraterrestrial type sightings. You know, we look at everything.

536
00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:53,000
The only thing that we really don't look at because

537
00:37:53,159 --> 00:37:58,559
I don't buy it is transformation, you know, and so forth.

538
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:01,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a tough one to wrap your

539
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:03,679
head around. I don't know what to do with it either,

540
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:04,440
but it is.

541
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:05,119
Speaker 3: It is.

542
00:38:05,559 --> 00:38:08,639
Speaker 2: I know that shamanistic traditions around the world have had

543
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,800
transformation ast part of their vernacular forever, but it still

544
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:17,039
doesn't lend well to logic into reason. But you know

545
00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:17,599
what do I know?

546
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

547
00:38:18,639 --> 00:38:21,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you at this point? Would you mind answering

548
00:38:21,639 --> 00:38:23,639
a few questions because they're getting a lot of questions

549
00:38:24,039 --> 00:38:27,000
in the chest. There was one that came up just

550
00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:30,440
a moment ago from Chatter named Boon Doc Mojo, and

551
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,960
he says didn't Martin Groves talk to that bowhunter before

552
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,519
he went missing? Prior to Martin's incident at the LBL.

553
00:38:39,199 --> 00:38:45,119
Speaker 3: I'll be honest. I know Martin Groves, I met him.

554
00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:49,159
I don't know him. No, I met him twice. I

555
00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:53,639
haven't read any of his books, so I can't tell

556
00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:57,840
you if he did or not. Anything I can tell

557
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,199
you by as far as the bow Hunter is when

558
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,159
the family who came to us and verified who he was,

559
00:39:05,679 --> 00:39:08,239
you know, they even had the That's how we knew

560
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,639
about the press release that it will be l put

561
00:39:11,679 --> 00:39:17,880
out because she showed us a press release. So I

562
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,840
can't answer that. To be honest with you, I have

563
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,880
to reach out to Martin and ask him. Okay, you

564
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,280
know about that, But to be honest with you, no,

565
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,920
I don't. I don't know.

566
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:35,519
Speaker 2: Okay. Another question, one from Chuckie Danger. The other one

567
00:39:35,559 --> 00:39:38,239
from well several people are have you ever found a

568
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,519
dog Man track? Another one is asking have you ever

569
00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:41,760
had a sighting yourself?

570
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

571
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 4: I have.

572
00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 3: We've We've got some really good tracks. If you go

573
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,599
on her website, I think if you've under the there's

574
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:56,760
some bars up on the right top it hit evidence.

575
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,800
You can see some of the pictures of the tracks

576
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:04,159
and casting is that we have that that's on there. Yeah,

577
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,440
I had a siding and I wasn't looking for dog

578
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,320
mean when I had my siding. Actually, I was on

579
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,519
a big foot hunt, to be honest with you. Yeah,

580
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,760
I was in uh Morehead, Kentucky. There was a big

581
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,639
foot event that was taking place there and I was

582
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:26,920
speaking at it, and we all left that night to

583
00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:34,519
go to oh what was the name of that for us? Oh,

584
00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:39,400
I can't remember it. Will jump there, Uh jump here

585
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:46,679
in a minute. I slept my mind. I'll remember it,

586
00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:50,679
I'll remember it. So we're there at the park and

587
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:57,159
everybody's getting together and we broke up into like three

588
00:40:57,199 --> 00:41:01,559
teams because it had a lot trail, middle trail, and

589
00:41:01,639 --> 00:41:06,719
a high trail, and so my team went on the

590
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,880
middle trail. We were probably about a mile mile and

591
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,719
a half in and the road kind of went to

592
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,320
a turn and we you know, we had flashlights and

593
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,280
we had headlights on and it was just kind of

594
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,280
a symbolic type thing because there was kids there, you know,

595
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,119
And so we came around this bend and we caught

596
00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:33,400
eye shine and it was a deer. Now the deer

597
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,800
saw us. So now you got this trail and you

598
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,840
have all the you know, the woods on the side

599
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,400
of the trail. So at one point of where the

600
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,320
deer was, there was like a bush that was there, okay,

601
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,480
and the deer saw us, and the deer kind of

602
00:41:50,519 --> 00:41:52,559
like it was really weird because it kind of like

603
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,960
jumped off to the side instead of like jumping forward,

604
00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:03,039
you know. And as it jumped to like to go

605
00:42:03,159 --> 00:42:09,840
over the bush, this thing just came out of nowhere

606
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,360
and just like grabbed. You saw the arm grab the deer.

607
00:42:14,559 --> 00:42:17,960
Now we have flashlights and headlights, so we were able

608
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,719
to see this thing. You saw the snout, you saw

609
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,800
the high pointed airs, the long arms, long fingers, the

610
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,960
eye shine of this thing just grabbed the deer, I mean,

611
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,760
and just walked off with it. And then you heard

612
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,960
the like screech from this deer, this odd sound. So

613
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:42,480
because we had kids with us and so forth, we

614
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:47,480
we headed back and that that was the siding. I

615
00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:50,920
think we went back there the following night to see

616
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,119
if we can find the remains of the deer, but

617
00:42:53,199 --> 00:43:00,440
we couldn't find anything. Wow, it was Daniel Boone National Forest. Okay. Yeah,

618
00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:02,360
And here here's the thing. For a lot of people,

619
00:43:03,039 --> 00:43:06,559
Daniel Boone National Forest is probably one of the biggest

620
00:43:06,599 --> 00:43:12,599
hotspots for dog man sightings. I'm not kidding. Yeah. Yeah,

621
00:43:12,639 --> 00:43:18,280
the Kentucky dog Mayan Project. I can't think you guy's

622
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:23,719
name at the top of my head. There, he's got

623
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:28,639
some really good evidence out of Daniel Boone National Forest.

624
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,639
There's a lot of stuff. Yeah, it's probably one of

625
00:43:33,679 --> 00:43:34,840
the best places to go.

626
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I have another question for you about kind of

627
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,800
about the nature of dog Man And this one comes

628
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,079
up kind of a lot, and I've heard different versions

629
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:48,960
of it through the years, but I've had I've heard

630
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,440
the version where Bigfoot and dog men are very confrontational.

631
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,760
That there and that I've heard that there's some cooperation

632
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,159
between them. That I've heard that, you know, they they

633
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,440
establish her on territories and they basically honor that as

634
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,920
if there's some kind of treaty. But what's your take

635
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:10,119
on the Bigfoot dog man interplay.

636
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 3: I believe they have contact. I don't think they're friends.

637
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,719
And it's like you take LBL for example, the road

638
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,519
I think is twenty two that kind of separates the park. Okay,

639
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,559
And majority of all the Bigfoot sightings are in the

640
00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:28,159
southern part. Majority of all the dog Man stuff is

641
00:44:28,199 --> 00:44:33,280
on the northern part, and you very seldom ever care

642
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,239
about dog Man on the southern part and Bigfoot on

643
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:42,800
the northern part. There maybe there's a trading or something

644
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:48,559
like that, but I don't think that they're friends. And

645
00:44:48,599 --> 00:44:54,480
I'll tell you a really good story. We were in

646
00:44:54,639 --> 00:45:04,079
Utah to do an investigation outside of Skinwalker Ranch and

647
00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:09,480
we got in contact with a woman that lives in

648
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,159
this area. It's a farming area. I think there are

649
00:45:13,199 --> 00:45:15,880
may be like five houses in this area that they're

650
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,039
pretty well spread out, but you're able to see them.

651
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,719
So they all we talked to, like everybody in that

652
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,079
whole thing with everybody came out and met us and talked,

653
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,320
and they knew there was a bigfoot in the area. Okay,

654
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,440
they've seen it, they've heard it, never heard it, you know,

655
00:45:36,519 --> 00:45:39,920
hurt the livestock or anything like that, never had an

656
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,360
issue with it whatsoever. You left them alone. They left

657
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,159
it alone. And then one day they said, just like

658
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:55,280
Alva Blue, you know, livestocks missing, livestocks being killed, horses

659
00:45:55,320 --> 00:46:00,760
are being attacked. This one particular lady who the one

660
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,239
who had was dealing with the most of it. We

661
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:08,000
have pictures of her horse and this thing attacked her horse.

662
00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:11,840
I mean like straight on and like bit a chunk

663
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:12,800
out of its chest.

664
00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:13,559
Speaker 2: Oh wow.

665
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:17,079
Speaker 3: And you know everybody knows how strong a horses and

666
00:46:17,159 --> 00:46:19,679
you know most animals that go or pressors go up

667
00:46:19,679 --> 00:46:22,840
against a horse head on, you know you're going to

668
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,199
run into a problem. Yeah, but this scene took a

669
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,000
chunk out of you know, horses chests and there's some

670
00:46:29,079 --> 00:46:33,519
scratch marks that were on it. So they're like wondering,

671
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:36,840
what is what's going on? Is there you know, mountain

672
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:43,000
lion or something like that that's causing all this. And

673
00:46:43,039 --> 00:46:48,199
then one day it was like, uh, I think she said,

674
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,440
was almost nine o'clock in the evening. It was just

675
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,280
getting dark, it was summertime. They're hearing these screams that

676
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,639
were coming out of the woodline, just like something fighting.

677
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,519
It was like two different type of screams. They believe

678
00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:06,360
one of them was the Bigfoot that always lived in

679
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,360
that area, and the other one. They had no idea

680
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,840
what it was. And they said from that night on

681
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:16,199
they never saw the bigfoot again, never saw the Bigfoot again.

682
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,280
And in the woods, there's like a trail where everybody

683
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,320
would just walk on the trail in the woods. They

684
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,199
would find all these trees and we have all the

685
00:47:24,199 --> 00:47:28,079
pictures of it, these scratch marks going all on the tree,

686
00:47:28,639 --> 00:47:32,519
you know, and then people are starting to see what

687
00:47:32,639 --> 00:47:36,559
this thing is. It's a large woof that's walking on

688
00:47:36,639 --> 00:47:41,920
two legs. And like the one lady that was dealing

689
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,079
with it the most because she was the closest to

690
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:50,239
the woodline. Her daughter was in, you know, in bed,

691
00:47:50,519 --> 00:47:53,519
and the security light came on outside her window, and

692
00:47:53,559 --> 00:47:56,159
that's where their corral was for the horses, and she

693
00:47:56,199 --> 00:47:59,719
can hear the horses go crazy, and so she looks

694
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,960
out the window and she sees, she says, she sees

695
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:09,480
this dog doing what she said was an army man crawl. Oh,

696
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,760
you know, she saw the tail move and you know,

697
00:48:13,199 --> 00:48:15,800
and it was like going up towards the corral. And

698
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,280
she drew this picture, which was really neat. And this

699
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,599
is like a you know, thirteen year old girl, and

700
00:48:21,639 --> 00:48:23,559
she drew the picture of what she saw and it

701
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:28,599
was pretty decent, and that's on our website also. And

702
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:35,400
so this thing would come up to the house and

703
00:48:35,519 --> 00:48:38,360
you would see the footprints on this from the mud

704
00:48:38,519 --> 00:48:42,360
on the porch, and you see the handprints on the

705
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,159
window where it was like looking in and this is

706
00:48:45,159 --> 00:48:49,840
that like daytime. This is happening some really, I guess

707
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:54,360
there's some really weird stuff. And now this woman is

708
00:48:54,400 --> 00:49:00,679
an animal activist. I mean she's like hard core animal activists,

709
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,480
all right. So she's walking on the trail one day

710
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,800
and she finds a dead fawn. Okay, so she wasn't

711
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,800
deaf war on the trust. She goes back. It's a

712
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:14,119
shovel because she's gonna bury the fawn, okay, and it's gone.

713
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:20,159
Oh okay, So she goes back, puts the shovel way,

714
00:49:20,199 --> 00:49:22,400
and goes back on the walk and the fawn's laying

715
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:27,679
there again. Okay, so she's like, okay, I think it's

716
00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:30,400
time to go home. Well, the next morning she woke

717
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,920
up and the fawn's laying in her driveway. Oh. So

718
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,639
she takes it and buries it. The next day it's

719
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:44,960
laying in her driveway again. Oh god, So this thing's

720
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:50,880
playing with her with this dead baby dear. Okay. Yeah,

721
00:49:51,159 --> 00:49:53,760
it was some weird stuff and she ended up moving

722
00:49:55,159 --> 00:49:59,639
from there. Yeah, but yeah, I mean it was pretty

723
00:49:59,679 --> 00:50:04,559
wick of the stuff that was happening to the animals.

724
00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:08,159
And she has a picture of the print, one of

725
00:50:08,159 --> 00:50:13,480
the prints, next to her hand, and what's so neat

726
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,719
about this print, if you like, put it in a negative,

727
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,519
and I think we may have it on here too.

728
00:50:19,559 --> 00:50:25,840
It's four toes, but the one toe you can see

729
00:50:26,519 --> 00:50:31,800
how it's like a thumb where it moves. Oh, and

730
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,159
you can see it in the print. When you do

731
00:50:34,199 --> 00:50:36,000
it on the negative, you can really see it in

732
00:50:36,039 --> 00:50:39,159
the print itself, but you can see it like in

733
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:44,039
the negative really well, So this thing was able to

734
00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:45,320
grasp right.

735
00:50:46,199 --> 00:50:48,199
Speaker 2: You know, I've heard the description of that having what

736
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,440
looks like a very large version of like raccoon hands.

737
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, is that accurate what you say? Yeah? Yeah, and

738
00:50:56,639 --> 00:51:01,039
this is what this print shows it was. It was

739
00:51:01,159 --> 00:51:06,639
crazy and yeah, uh that was kind of exciting, you

740
00:51:06,679 --> 00:51:09,280
know that one. And then we end up talking with

741
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:14,960
another lady that was there right outside of uh Skinwalker Ranch,

742
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:20,119
that she's sitting out on her patio and she sees

743
00:51:20,159 --> 00:51:23,440
this dog standing up in this in the bushes right

744
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,800
on her on her property. So she takes a picture

745
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:32,679
of this thing and I believe that's on our website

746
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,400
too and under evidence. And this thing is standing here.

747
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,639
You see the eyes of mouths open, you see the

748
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:42,800
red tongue where this thing's like panting. I mean it's it's, it's, it's.

749
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,760
It's an awesome picture because it's like standing there in

750
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:51,000
the shadow of the bush, you know, just watching this

751
00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:53,599
lady and she she saw it, took a picture of it,

752
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,480
and yeah, it's it's it's a very wicked picture.

753
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy.

754
00:52:00,039 --> 00:52:06,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get back to LBL. We had a couple

755
00:52:06,679 --> 00:52:12,199
that came to us about us, citing they had, you know,

756
00:52:12,199 --> 00:52:15,000
a few months ago, Land between the Lakes, and the

757
00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:19,440
pictures are on our website also on the front page.

758
00:52:19,639 --> 00:52:26,079
And it was raining really bad and they were leaving,

759
00:52:26,159 --> 00:52:29,320
and so she turns on the thermal just to see

760
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,960
if she can get anything, and she got something in

761
00:52:32,039 --> 00:52:36,440
the woodline moving and so they stopped and they're filming.

762
00:52:36,519 --> 00:52:39,159
It's like twenty minutes of this thing like moving back

763
00:52:39,199 --> 00:52:43,760
and forth watching them. So she gave us the film.

764
00:52:44,119 --> 00:52:46,000
She went to a couple of different people saying, you know,

765
00:52:46,119 --> 00:52:48,679
anything you can do with this film, and like, no,

766
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,599
we can't do anything with it. So we were able

767
00:52:51,679 --> 00:52:58,599
to get the film, stabilize it and take stills from it,

768
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,320
cleaning it up, running through alters where you can actually

769
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:05,000
see the same and this dog man is like holding

770
00:53:05,039 --> 00:53:09,679
a younger dog man and you. Yeah, if you look

771
00:53:09,679 --> 00:53:11,599
at the pictures on the website, you can see it

772
00:53:11,639 --> 00:53:14,119
really well. And it's like if you're standing there and

773
00:53:14,159 --> 00:53:17,320
you have like your child, right and your child is

774
00:53:17,559 --> 00:53:19,679
you know, back is up against you, and you grab

775
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,079
the arms and you pick them up. You know, what

776
00:53:22,119 --> 00:53:25,119
does the child do? The child brings us the legs in,

777
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,920
you know, And this is exactly what this thing is doing.

778
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,320
It's picking the child up and the legs and it

779
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,079
brings the legs in and it's tucking the legs in

780
00:53:36,519 --> 00:53:39,719
and you can see, I mean, we we we really

781
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,599
didn't do a whole lot enhancing on the picture. Okay,

782
00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:47,960
you know, we did very little. And from what we,

783
00:53:48,599 --> 00:53:52,159
you know, did, you can see clearly that you know,

784
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,480
this is the dog man and it's holding a smaller one.

785
00:53:57,159 --> 00:54:02,880
And there's a crypto an artist named Sybylla Urwi. Yeah

786
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,199
she's great and she does yeah, she does a lot

787
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,840
of crypto arts. So I sent her the picture. I said,

788
00:54:08,159 --> 00:54:10,519
I'm not going to tell you anything about it. I

789
00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:12,480
want you to do me an artwork or what you

790
00:54:12,559 --> 00:54:16,440
think you see? Oh, and that artwork is on there also,

791
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:21,000
and yeah, it's a dog man standing there holding you know,

792
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,599
a younger dog man. Yeah, it's a very incredible picture.

793
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:32,039
To me, that is the best evidence of the beast,

794
00:54:32,039 --> 00:54:33,199
the laying between the lakes.

795
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 2: Wow, that is really cool. Now I've got to ask

796
00:54:37,519 --> 00:54:40,679
you getting back to that case where the gentleman was

797
00:54:40,679 --> 00:54:43,719
in the in the boat and I saw those two

798
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:49,280
people attacked on the shoreline. What what in your estimation?

799
00:54:50,199 --> 00:54:54,960
First of all, are our dog men generally very aggressive

800
00:54:55,119 --> 00:54:57,320
like that? I know that they intimidate quite a bit,

801
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,280
according to a lot of anecdotal reports, like the getting

802
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,119
rid up in the grill and growl and menace and

803
00:55:03,159 --> 00:55:05,519
then they'll leave, like you know, like they seem to

804
00:55:05,519 --> 00:55:08,559
get a rise out of it. But are they what

805
00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:11,679
would cause the dog men to maybe attack? And I'm

806
00:55:11,679 --> 00:55:14,840
asking you to speculate wildly, so forgive me. But you know,

807
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,519
again you've looked into this for quite.

808
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 3: A while, right, they're an apex predator. Yeah, so you

809
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,480
know it's a canine and the thing and most people

810
00:55:25,559 --> 00:55:30,920
know this. Canines can sense, you know, if you're scared,

811
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,000
if you're going to if you're going to be a threat,

812
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:42,400
and they use that to intimidate you, you know, And

813
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,320
I think that's that's what a lot of it is

814
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,880
if they feel that you're weak or sick or something

815
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:53,800
like that. Yeah, you're easy prey because people run. People

816
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,800
don't walk away from stuff. People run from stuff, and

817
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:02,639
you run your prey. Oh you know. And and that's

818
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:07,760
I think that's why a lot of people get hurt

819
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:14,519
by these things. I'm working on a map, okay, of

820
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,400
all the dog man attacks in the United States and Canada,

821
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:26,039
and I'm coincign it with bear attacks. Mm hmm, okay, okay,

822
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:33,480
and this because you know, bear attack would be the

823
00:56:33,519 --> 00:56:38,960
easiest thing to cover up a dog man attack.

824
00:56:39,639 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 2: Oh right, right, okay.

825
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 3: So by the authorities, you know. So, like I said,

826
00:56:50,519 --> 00:56:52,760
it's just it's it's a map I'm working on to

827
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,840
see if there's you know, cover up there or if

828
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,599
there actually something that's happening.

829
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:03,679
Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, I think that's that's fascinating. We got a

830
00:57:03,679 --> 00:57:08,400
couple of couple of questions from Supernatural Station in the

831
00:57:08,519 --> 00:57:14,119
chats thoughts question with Wyoming releasing kangaroos to contract wolf population,

832
00:57:14,679 --> 00:57:17,440
what if they tried that there? What are your thoughts?

833
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:26,159
Speaker 3: I haven't heard that, you you know, you know, I

834
00:57:26,159 --> 00:57:32,079
don't know how well that's gonna work out. You know kangaroos.

835
00:57:32,239 --> 00:57:35,400
I don't. If they run in packs, you know, probably,

836
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:44,840
but yeah, I mean, yeah, that's that's that's that's weird. No,

837
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,559
I don't honestly, I don't think you know, it would

838
00:57:48,599 --> 00:57:52,639
actually work or not, to be honest with you, Yeah,

839
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:57,880
it's you know, there's people get paid a lot of

840
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,599
money to come up and think that stuff.

841
00:58:01,639 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 2: Now, let me ask you this, Jody, there's always rumors

842
00:58:06,079 --> 00:58:09,679
of these military kill squads that go out into these

843
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:15,000
areas and allegedly eradicate problem creatures in the trip to

844
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,840
zoological field. Do you think that that really happens, and

845
00:58:19,039 --> 00:58:24,239
if so, why hasn't that been unleashed on Land between

846
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:24,719
the Lakes?

847
00:58:26,199 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 3: You know, here here's I think you know, people said,

848
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:32,480
yeah they seen military land between the lakes. Yeah, you

849
00:58:32,519 --> 00:58:35,239
do see military land between the lakes because four Campbell,

850
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:39,199
Kentucky's right there, okay, and land between the lakes is

851
00:58:39,239 --> 00:58:42,840
one of their biggest training areas, so you will see

852
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,159
a lot of military there. So people say, okay, yeah,

853
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,159
the military is looking for dog man. You know, the

854
00:58:49,159 --> 00:58:52,960
military is out you know, capturing dog man bodies and

855
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:57,880
stuff like that. That that's horse crap, Okay, Okay, you

856
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,480
know ever since you know, nineteen six for you know,

857
00:59:03,559 --> 00:59:09,280
for Campbell's use that grounds as as training. Okay, but

858
00:59:10,159 --> 00:59:13,280
I I don't believe these stories. I mean, I I don't.

859
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:17,960
I just I can't you know, think that you know, uh,

860
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,480
the government is you know, creating these things to go

861
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:25,920
out and kill people for training for uh you know,

862
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:30,840
a military operation or something to that effect, or you know,

863
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:37,840
they're out, you know, searching for dog Man. And I

864
00:59:38,559 --> 00:59:43,519
don't know, I just is it possible? Yeah, But I

865
00:59:43,559 --> 00:59:45,679
just I just think a lot of these stories because

866
00:59:45,679 --> 00:59:49,039
these there are all stories that's on YouTube, you know,

867
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:58,679
and they're all AI generated stories. I've never ever talked

868
00:59:58,719 --> 01:00:03,920
to anyone that claim that they're part of an organization

869
01:00:04,119 --> 01:00:08,679
that goes out looking for dog Yeah. You know, I've

870
01:00:08,719 --> 01:00:13,960
talked to people who recover UFOs who claim they recover

871
01:00:14,119 --> 01:00:19,519
UFO and UFO bodies, but nothing ever cryptid, you know.

872
01:00:22,159 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

873
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, it's I don't know. I just don't

874
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,039
buy into it, to be honest.

875
01:00:32,559 --> 01:00:36,559
Speaker 2: And ladies and gentlemen, Jody is ex military. He was

876
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,639
served over in Iraq and he was a law enforcement

877
01:00:40,679 --> 01:00:43,239
as well, so it's not like he doesn't have an

878
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:48,239
educated opinion here. So I appreciate that because I think

879
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,880
that there's you know, and I don't pretend to know,

880
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,679
but I when I hear claims like that, it's like, well,

881
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,440
is that really possible? Does that really happened.

882
01:00:57,199 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, you know, I've read all these seen

883
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:04,320
all these videos of guys coming forward, you know, claiming

884
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,760
that the government came after him because they killed the

885
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:12,679
dog man or something like that. I had two, two

886
01:01:13,239 --> 01:01:19,880
legitimate encounters with the federal government okay over dog man,

887
01:01:20,039 --> 01:01:30,159
and both of them were one positive. Okay, our website

888
01:01:30,199 --> 01:01:36,920
provider about I guess six seven months after our website

889
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,920
came up, they contacted us and they said, look, you know,

890
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,800
are you guys doing anything you're not supposed to be doing,

891
01:01:45,119 --> 01:01:47,159
you know, with your website? Because he said, you know,

892
01:01:47,239 --> 01:01:50,840
we looked at everything, you know, we went with special

893
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,599
programs to see if you had anything hidden in pictures

894
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:58,280
or anything like that. And I said, no, why And

895
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,360
he goes, because you have all these three letter agencies

896
01:02:01,599 --> 01:02:06,880
monitoring your website. Oh wow, okay, And they said it's

897
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,840
just not here in the United States. It's in Canada,

898
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,400
it's in Europe, it's in Australia. It's in Japan.

899
01:02:14,039 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 2: Oh wow.

900
01:02:14,719 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 3: You know, these government agencies are monitoring your website and

901
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,159
they go and they can tell, they can tell who's

902
01:02:22,159 --> 01:02:27,840
doing it, you know, who's actually monitoring you know websites

903
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:32,480
because a lot of these legitimate website providers do a

904
01:02:32,519 --> 01:02:37,800
lot of pornography websites, okay, and so they have to

905
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,360
monitor them just you know, you know, the government to

906
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,920
make sure that there's nothing illegal that's in these adult

907
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:50,880
you know websites and so forth. But they said, yeah,

908
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,639
they're you know, they're monitoring us. But here here's the thing.

909
01:02:54,719 --> 01:02:58,239
And I know even today they're still doing it, okay,

910
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,599
because I talk with a website from either two days

911
01:03:01,599 --> 01:03:07,079
ago and they said, yeah, they're still there monitoring, but

912
01:03:07,159 --> 01:03:10,559
it wasn't to the effect it was the first year

913
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:16,920
that your website came up. So our website site at

914
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,519
the top one hundred, which is like really cool. So

915
01:03:19,559 --> 01:03:22,800
we get about five thousand views a month, so we're

916
01:03:23,079 --> 01:03:27,840
doing We're doing pretty good. But my view on it is, I,

917
01:03:28,199 --> 01:03:33,360
you know, is the government curious on the stuff? Yes,

918
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,800
I believe they are curious and they see us probably

919
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:40,679
doing the work for them. Okay, Okay, Now with that

920
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:47,119
being said, are these three letter agencies there's on our website?

921
01:03:47,639 --> 01:03:51,000
You know, are they monitoring us, watching us, check and

922
01:03:51,039 --> 01:03:54,599
see what we're doing. Or is it somebody that's on

923
01:03:54,639 --> 01:03:58,320
their lunch break on the government computer just googling something

924
01:03:58,679 --> 01:04:02,599
and ran across the website. That's the possibility. That's what

925
01:04:02,719 --> 01:04:05,559
I think the majority of it is. But I do

926
01:04:05,639 --> 01:04:13,599
believe that there are stuff They are watching us and

927
01:04:13,679 --> 01:04:19,719
looking at our data. We know this because the one

928
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:24,880
encounter I had actually told us they were monitoring us,

929
01:04:25,239 --> 01:04:28,599
you know, our website, and they liked the stuff that

930
01:04:28,679 --> 01:04:32,440
we had compared to what a lot of other people have,

931
01:04:32,599 --> 01:04:36,639
because we have a lot of stuff that we haven't

932
01:04:36,679 --> 01:04:42,679
really shown that we keep to ourselves, and they actually

933
01:04:43,679 --> 01:04:46,480
know about it because you know, they're they're hidden and

934
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:51,840
you know where other people can't see it, and you know,

935
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:58,760
the documentation that we've gotten in. It's like we have

936
01:05:00,039 --> 01:05:07,320
free optopsy reports of alleged dog big killings on our website.

937
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:12,320
And then once we put that up, the activity with

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two of the three Letter agencies picked up not even

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four hours after we posted it, posted the autopsies on there. Okay, yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: All right, ladies, and gentlemen, that's going to wrap up

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our part one of the interview with Jody Cook. Please

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stay tuned watch for the coming days for the release

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of part two, which will be the conclusion of my

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episode interviewing Jody Cook. So I hope you guys enjoyed

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this and hope to see you back for part two.

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But until then, I'll take care of yourself, all right, everybody,

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that's going to wrap it up for us today. So

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I hope you guys enjoyed the show, and thank you

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again so much for all your love and support. And remember,

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if you want to follow the Paranormal Portal, probably the

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easiest way is to head over to Paranormalportal dot net

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and that's the homepage for the Paranormal Portal, and you'll

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find links to all of our different social media and

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sites and information about the shows, including our YouTube channel

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which is YouTube dot com slash Paranormal Portal, or just

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look for Paranormal Portal on Google or whatever search engine

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and you'll find links to our social media such as Facebook, Instagram.

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Speaker 3: Talk and Twitter.

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Speaker 2: So we're kind of all over the place and we're

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spreading as well as we can. But anyway, thank you.

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So much for the love and support you'all. Take care

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and remember we love you'all. Be good, be kind, be nice,

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take care of each other, help each other out, find

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the magic and every day, and remember to laugh as

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much as you can.

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Speaker 4: Until next time. That of the hepping S.