Speaker 1: My God, Ross Coldheart, journalist, award-winning broadcaster, expert on UFOs,
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories, and our government's failure to inform us. He's
Speaker 1: live in Sydney, Australia. He works with News Nation. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the show, Ross.
Speaker 2: G'day, Walter, and g'day, Midnight Misfits. I'm talking about a
Speaker 2: place called Susquehanna, which is a power station, which is
Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania, the Susquehanna area. steam electric station in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: And you and I, Walter, have been very prominent, I think,
Speaker 2: in taking a very sceptical view over the last few
Speaker 2: years about the official explanation for the unexplained objects that
Speaker 2: have been breaching airspace over often very sensitive government military facilities,
Speaker 2: but especially just over suburban New Jersey for many, many months.
Speaker 2: And You and I were both talking many times on
Speaker 2: this show about the fact that time and time again,
Speaker 2: we are told by the authorities that these are just drones.
Speaker 2: And the most banal explanation being offered by those in
Speaker 2: charge is that clearly some naughty person is just putting
Speaker 2: up a commercial or maybe even a military-sized drone and
Speaker 2: breaching the airspace over sensitive civil aviation facilities and Don't
Speaker 2: you worry your tiny little heads about this. There's really
Speaker 2: nothing to worry about. It's nothing anomalous. Well, my friend,
Speaker 2: I have just put to air an interview with a
Speaker 2: guy who I think puts this to rest once and
Speaker 2: for all, and he is very strongly of the view
Speaker 2: that we need to take anomalous phenomena over sensitive military
Speaker 2: and civilian facilities extremely seriously indeed. The guy's name is
Speaker 2: Daryl Johnson. And he's a very big banana. He's formerly
Speaker 2: one of the top experts on domestic terrorism in the
Speaker 2: United States. He worked in a counterterrorism role in the
Speaker 2: US Army. And he ended up working inside the office of...
Speaker 2: the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, the Office of Nuclear Security and
Speaker 2: Incident Response, doing all of the security for the body
Speaker 2: that controls the security over some of our most sensitive
Speaker 2: nuclear plants. And what he's discovered is truly shocking. Forgive me,
Speaker 2: I'm getting somebody... Believe me, I understand.
Speaker 1: It's all right. Pause if you need to, because I
Speaker 1: want to hear this story. This is clearly a big story, sir.
Speaker 2: So he was responsible for monitoring, assessing, and trending all
Speaker 2: drone and UAP flyovers at every single commercial nuclear power
Speaker 2: reactor and fuel cycle facility across the United States. It
Speaker 2: was Darrell who wrote the annual report to Congress for
Speaker 2: the Nuclear Regulatory Commission's security inspection program, He was responsible
Speaker 2: for all of the security advisories sent to all the licensees,
Speaker 2: and he reviewed all of the suspicious activity reports from
Speaker 2: all licensees. And essentially, he was the guy who did
Speaker 2: the trend analysis on what is actually being seen over
Speaker 2: these nuclear power plants. And his job was to coordinate
Speaker 2: with the Department of Defense's UFO Investigation Office, the All
Speaker 2: Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, on UAPs. And what he revealed
Speaker 2: to me in this interview is quite shocking because he's
Speaker 2: discovered that, for example, at Susquehanna, 22nd of October, 2022,
Speaker 2: what was officially described as a drone was a gigantic
Speaker 2: black triangular object with a large spotlight that hovered over
Speaker 2: the nuclear power plant Two hours. And it did this
Speaker 2: with total impunity, shining down a huge spotlight over one
Speaker 2: of the most sensitive facilities that has nuclear power in
Speaker 2: the United States. And what's interesting is the official explanation
Speaker 2: is that these were just one of several drones that
Speaker 2: breached the airspace. That's what the public have been told
Speaker 2: by the NRC. But the reality is from the guy
Speaker 2: who was in charge of security, he thinks these are anomalous.
Speaker 2: He says the lights were very, very prominent. If somebody
Speaker 2: was trying to hide this object, it was a very,
Speaker 2: very clearly, obviously well-lit craft that was clearly some kind
Speaker 2: of structured craft. It was a black triangle. No noise
Speaker 2: was heard. Absolutely no sign of any propellers or no
Speaker 2: jet engines, no turbines, a completely silent object hovering only very,
Speaker 2: very low over the head of security guards. And they
Speaker 2: were completely hopeless in their inability to be able to
Speaker 2: do anything about it. And what's interesting, Walter, and you
Speaker 2: and I have spoken about this before, that all too
Speaker 2: often what I suspect is described as a drone is
Speaker 2: is purely and simply an unexplained object and that the
Speaker 2: official default position now has come to be that UAPs,
Speaker 2: unidentified anomalous phenomena, objects like this black triangle, are reported
Speaker 2: either as drones or not at all. And that's exactly
Speaker 2: what Daryl Johnson tells me in the interview that we've
Speaker 2: just put to air. He says that the Nuclear Regulatory
Speaker 2: Commission claims He says it's incredibly serious. He says they're
Speaker 2: getting incomplete data because there's no guidance that distinguishes UAPs,
Speaker 2: that is potentially anomalous objects, from unmanned aerial systems, drones.
Speaker 2: Nobody knows how to tell the difference. And he said
Speaker 2: that inside the NRC, when he tried to raise this
Speaker 2: as a concern, nobody cared. they actually tried to discourage
Speaker 2: him from reporting it to the Pentagon's UAP office. And
Speaker 2: he was saying, he doesn't say that they are extraterrestrial,
Speaker 2: but he did tell me, quote, something is observing us.
Speaker 2: We don't know what it is or who controls it.
Speaker 2: But he said that in his time at the Nuclear
Speaker 2: Regulatory Commission, he, Daryl Johnson, the guy in charge of
Speaker 2: security said, saw time and time again objects being explained
Speaker 2: away as drones when he could not plausibly explain what
Speaker 2: they were. And he said he didn't think there was
Speaker 2: any willingness inside the NRC, which, of course, is the
Speaker 2: body that is meant to be protecting us all from
Speaker 2: the possibility of the nuclear materials inside these plants being
Speaker 2: swept away by some dastardly terrorist. Basically, his division director
Speaker 2: laughed at the idea of aliens or UAPs and joked.
Speaker 2: And he basically discouraged him from making a report to
Speaker 2: the Pentagon, as he was required to do by law.
Speaker 2: And so he's gone public with me, and it's quite
Speaker 2: a major story. I'm genuinely concerned by what he reveals,
Speaker 2: because what he's saying is that even if you wanted
Speaker 2: to bring down these objects, I said to him, why
Speaker 2: didn't somebody just shoot down these craft over these areas?
Speaker 2: And he laughed and he said, you wouldn't believe this.
Speaker 2: A drone is defined as an aircraft under FAA laws.
Speaker 2: And so it's a breach of the Aircraft Sabotage Act
Speaker 2: to shoot down a drone, even if it's hovering over
Speaker 2: one of the most sensitive nuclear facilities in Pennsylvania. And
Speaker 2: he said it's a potential felony liability for the security
Speaker 2: staff at a nuclear power plant to either jam, damage, destroy,
Speaker 2: hack or seize any kind of aircraft, even if it's
Speaker 2: a remotely controlled drone. All they can do is watch
Speaker 2: the object and watch it leave. So really, there's no
Speaker 2: power to do anything. So whether this is Chinese, little
Speaker 2: green men from Zeta Reticuli, or something else, maybe some
Speaker 2: civilian playing games, we have a huge hole over our
Speaker 2: most sensitive nuclear power facilities because, as he explained to me,
Speaker 2: the reactors themselves are very, very well protected. They have
Speaker 2: incredible quantities of concrete surrounding them. But to take out
Speaker 2: a nuclear reactor, all you need to do is damage
Speaker 2: the cooling pond or other sections of the nuclear site
Speaker 2: that I'm not going to reveal. And he says you
Speaker 2: can disarm and disable a nuclear power plant using a
Speaker 2: $ 10 drone with impunity. They can't even shoot it down.
Speaker 2: And if it was alien, Walter, well, as you and
Speaker 2: the Midnight Misfits now know, they wouldn't even be able
Speaker 2: to tell the difference.
Speaker 1: Now, Ross Coldheart, News Nation, as a man of action
Speaker 1: like me, our first reaction, if we're stationed at a nuclear,
Speaker 1: nuclear power plant, and we see objects that we cannot identify,
Speaker 1: and our control towers are saying, we don't know what
Speaker 1: that is, we're going to shoot them down. What happens
Speaker 1: to the soldiers who say, I'm going to shoot it down?
Speaker 2: They would go to jail for committing a felony offense
Speaker 2: under the Aircraft Sabotage Act. It's hilarious, Walter. Nobody in
Speaker 2: government has actually thought they've spent so much time debunking
Speaker 2: the UAP story and trying to tell us that there
Speaker 2: is no such thing as aliens, that they haven't addressed
Speaker 2: the fact that technology has changed. As we see in
Speaker 2: Ukraine now, it's possible to knock out the most advanced
Speaker 2: Soviet Russian tanks with a $ 10, 000 military drone carrying armor-piercing weaponry.
Speaker 2: We can take out nuclear power plants from above in
Speaker 2: ways that weren't contemplated even 10 years ago. And the
Speaker 2: technology is of such a threat that the Nuclear Regulatory Commission,
Speaker 2: according to my informant, Daryl Johnson, the guy who used
Speaker 2: to run their security, he is saying that they are
Speaker 2: woefully unprepared for this kind of incursion, whether it be
Speaker 2: alien or foreign adversary. Whatever it is, something has been
Speaker 2: penetrating these very sensitive nuclear facilities with total impunity.
Speaker 1: Do you think Daryl Johnson, your source, is in any
Speaker 1: danger for revealing this.
Speaker 2: No, he's a ballsy guy, Walter. One of the things
Speaker 2: I love about America, in the English system we operate
Speaker 2: under in Australia, people get intimidated by governments. But the
Speaker 2: thing I love about America is you guys were imbued
Speaker 2: with civics. You're not taught to hate the media and
Speaker 2: you're not taught to not be a whistleblower. People are
Speaker 2: encouraged to come forward when they see wrong.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: And I really admire that about America. People speak out
Speaker 2: when they see wrong. And he's a good, brave man.
Speaker 2: He's written a terrific book that basically highlights chapter and
Speaker 2: verse the failings inside the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. And I
Speaker 2: sincerely hope the top people in Washington listen to him.
Speaker 2: Because interestingly enough, he was one of the guys who
Speaker 2: sounded the alarm about right wing groups shortly before the
Speaker 2: January 6th congressional takeover where the Congress was invaded by
Speaker 2: thugs that trashed the Congress. So, you know, he's one
Speaker 2: of the people who I think has persistently taken a
Speaker 2: strong stand on combating and predicting threats and good on
Speaker 2: him for writing the book he's written.
Speaker 1: Ross Coulthard, News Nation. What's the name of the show?
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Speaker 2: Reality check. Ross Coulthard. Thank you, Walter.