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<v Speaker 1>My God, Ross Coldheart, journalist, award-winning broadcaster, expert on UFOs,

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theories, and our government's failure to inform us. He's

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<v Speaker 1>live in Sydney, Australia. He works with News Nation. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the show, Ross.

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<v Speaker 2>G'day, Walter, and g'day, Midnight Misfits. I'm talking about a

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<v Speaker 2>place called Susquehanna, which is a power station, which is

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<v Speaker 2>in Pennsylvania, the Susquehanna area. steam electric station in Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 2>And you and I, Walter, have been very prominent, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>in taking a very sceptical view over the last few

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<v Speaker 2>years about the official explanation for the unexplained objects that

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<v Speaker 2>have been breaching airspace over often very sensitive government military facilities,

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<v Speaker 2>but especially just over suburban New Jersey for many, many months.

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<v Speaker 2>And You and I were both talking many times on

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<v Speaker 2>this show about the fact that time and time again,

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<v Speaker 2>we are told by the authorities that these are just drones.

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<v Speaker 2>And the most banal explanation being offered by those in

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<v Speaker 2>charge is that clearly some naughty person is just putting

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<v Speaker 2>up a commercial or maybe even a military-sized drone and

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<v Speaker 2>breaching the airspace over sensitive civil aviation facilities and Don't

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<v Speaker 2>you worry your tiny little heads about this. There's really

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to worry about. It's nothing anomalous. Well, my friend,

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<v Speaker 2>I have just put to air an interview with a

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<v Speaker 2>guy who I think puts this to rest once and

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<v Speaker 2>for all, and he is very strongly of the view

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<v Speaker 2>that we need to take anomalous phenomena over sensitive military

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<v Speaker 2>and civilian facilities extremely seriously indeed. The guy's name is

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<v Speaker 2>Daryl Johnson. And he's a very big banana. He's formerly

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<v Speaker 2>one of the top experts on domestic terrorism in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States. He worked in a counterterrorism role in the

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<v Speaker 2>US Army. And he ended up working inside the office of...

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<v Speaker 2>the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, the Office of Nuclear Security and

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<v Speaker 2>Incident Response, doing all of the security for the body

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<v Speaker 2>that controls the security over some of our most sensitive

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear plants. And what he's discovered is truly shocking. Forgive me,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting somebody... Believe me, I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all right. Pause if you need to, because I

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear this story. This is clearly a big story, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was responsible for monitoring, assessing, and trending all

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<v Speaker 2>drone and UAP flyovers at every single commercial nuclear power

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<v Speaker 2>reactor and fuel cycle facility across the United States. It

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<v Speaker 2>was Darrell who wrote the annual report to Congress for

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<v Speaker 2>the Nuclear Regulatory Commission's security inspection program, He was responsible

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<v Speaker 2>for all of the security advisories sent to all the licensees,

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<v Speaker 2>and he reviewed all of the suspicious activity reports from

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<v Speaker 2>all licensees. And essentially, he was the guy who did

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<v Speaker 2>the trend analysis on what is actually being seen over

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<v Speaker 2>these nuclear power plants. And his job was to coordinate

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<v Speaker 2>with the Department of Defense's UFO Investigation Office, the All

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<v Speaker 2>Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, on UAPs. And what he revealed

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<v Speaker 2>to me in this interview is quite shocking because he's

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<v Speaker 2>discovered that, for example, at Susquehanna, 22nd of October, 2022,

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<v Speaker 2>what was officially described as a drone was a gigantic

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<v Speaker 2>black triangular object with a large spotlight that hovered over

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<v Speaker 2>the nuclear power plant Two hours. And it did this

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<v Speaker 2>with total impunity, shining down a huge spotlight over one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most sensitive facilities that has nuclear power in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States. And what's interesting is the official explanation

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<v Speaker 2>is that these were just one of several drones that

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<v Speaker 2>breached the airspace. That's what the public have been told

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<v Speaker 2>by the NRC. But the reality is from the guy

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<v Speaker 2>who was in charge of security, he thinks these are anomalous.

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<v Speaker 2>He says the lights were very, very prominent. If somebody

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to hide this object, it was a very,

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<v Speaker 2>very clearly, obviously well-lit craft that was clearly some kind

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<v Speaker 2>of structured craft. It was a black triangle. No noise

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<v Speaker 2>was heard. Absolutely no sign of any propellers or no

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<v Speaker 2>jet engines, no turbines, a completely silent object hovering only very,

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<v Speaker 2>very low over the head of security guards. And they

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<v Speaker 2>were completely hopeless in their inability to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>do anything about it. And what's interesting, Walter, and you

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<v Speaker 2>and I have spoken about this before, that all too

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<v Speaker 2>often what I suspect is described as a drone is

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<v Speaker 2>is purely and simply an unexplained object and that the

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<v Speaker 2>official default position now has come to be that UAPs,

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<v Speaker 2>unidentified anomalous phenomena, objects like this black triangle, are reported

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<v Speaker 2>either as drones or not at all. And that's exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what Daryl Johnson tells me in the interview that we've

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<v Speaker 2>just put to air. He says that the Nuclear Regulatory

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<v Speaker 2>Commission claims He says it's incredibly serious. He says they're

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<v Speaker 2>getting incomplete data because there's no guidance that distinguishes UAPs,

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<v Speaker 2>that is potentially anomalous objects, from unmanned aerial systems, drones.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody knows how to tell the difference. And he said

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<v Speaker 2>that inside the NRC, when he tried to raise this

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<v Speaker 2>as a concern, nobody cared. they actually tried to discourage

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<v Speaker 2>him from reporting it to the Pentagon's UAP office. And

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<v Speaker 2>he was saying, he doesn't say that they are extraterrestrial,

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<v Speaker 2>but he did tell me, quote, something is observing us.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know what it is or who controls it.

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<v Speaker 2>But he said that in his time at the Nuclear

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<v Speaker 2>Regulatory Commission, he, Daryl Johnson, the guy in charge of

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<v Speaker 2>security said, saw time and time again objects being explained

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<v Speaker 2>away as drones when he could not plausibly explain what

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<v Speaker 2>they were. And he said he didn't think there was

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<v Speaker 2>any willingness inside the NRC, which, of course, is the

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<v Speaker 2>body that is meant to be protecting us all from

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<v Speaker 2>the possibility of the nuclear materials inside these plants being

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<v Speaker 2>swept away by some dastardly terrorist. Basically, his division director

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<v Speaker 2>laughed at the idea of aliens or UAPs and joked.

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<v Speaker 2>And he basically discouraged him from making a report to

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<v Speaker 2>the Pentagon, as he was required to do by law.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he's gone public with me, and it's quite

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<v Speaker 2>a major story. I'm genuinely concerned by what he reveals,

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<v Speaker 2>because what he's saying is that even if you wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to bring down these objects, I said to him, why

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<v Speaker 2>didn't somebody just shoot down these craft over these areas?

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<v Speaker 2>And he laughed and he said, you wouldn't believe this.

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<v Speaker 2>A drone is defined as an aircraft under FAA laws.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's a breach of the Aircraft Sabotage Act

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<v Speaker 2>to shoot down a drone, even if it's hovering over

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most sensitive nuclear facilities in Pennsylvania. And

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<v Speaker 2>he said it's a potential felony liability for the security

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<v Speaker 2>staff at a nuclear power plant to either jam, damage, destroy,

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<v Speaker 2>hack or seize any kind of aircraft, even if it's

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<v Speaker 2>a remotely controlled drone. All they can do is watch

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<v Speaker 2>the object and watch it leave. So really, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>power to do anything. So whether this is Chinese, little

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<v Speaker 2>green men from Zeta Reticuli, or something else, maybe some

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<v Speaker 2>civilian playing games, we have a huge hole over our

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<v Speaker 2>most sensitive nuclear power facilities because, as he explained to me,

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<v Speaker 2>the reactors themselves are very, very well protected. They have

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<v Speaker 2>incredible quantities of concrete surrounding them. But to take out

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<v Speaker 2>a nuclear reactor, all you need to do is damage

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<v Speaker 2>the cooling pond or other sections of the nuclear site

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm not going to reveal. And he says you

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<v Speaker 2>can disarm and disable a nuclear power plant using a

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<v Speaker 2>$ 10 drone with impunity. They can't even shoot it down.

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<v Speaker 2>And if it was alien, Walter, well, as you and

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<v Speaker 2>the Midnight Misfits now know, they wouldn't even be able

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<v Speaker 2>to tell the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Ross Coldheart, News Nation, as a man of action

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<v Speaker 1>like me, our first reaction, if we're stationed at a nuclear,

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear power plant, and we see objects that we cannot identify,

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<v Speaker 1>and our control towers are saying, we don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>that is, we're going to shoot them down. What happens

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<v Speaker 1>to the soldiers who say, I'm going to shoot it down?

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<v Speaker 2>They would go to jail for committing a felony offense

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<v Speaker 2>under the Aircraft Sabotage Act. It's hilarious, Walter. Nobody in

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<v Speaker 2>government has actually thought they've spent so much time debunking

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<v Speaker 2>the UAP story and trying to tell us that there

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<v Speaker 2>is no such thing as aliens, that they haven't addressed

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that technology has changed. As we see in

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<v Speaker 2>Ukraine now, it's possible to knock out the most advanced

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<v Speaker 2>Soviet Russian tanks with a $ 10, 000 military drone carrying armor-piercing weaponry.

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<v Speaker 2>We can take out nuclear power plants from above in

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<v Speaker 2>ways that weren't contemplated even 10 years ago. And the

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<v Speaker 2>technology is of such a threat that the Nuclear Regulatory Commission,

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<v Speaker 2>according to my informant, Daryl Johnson, the guy who used

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<v Speaker 2>to run their security, he is saying that they are

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<v Speaker 2>woefully unprepared for this kind of incursion, whether it be

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<v Speaker 2>alien or foreign adversary. Whatever it is, something has been

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<v Speaker 2>penetrating these very sensitive nuclear facilities with total impunity.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think Daryl Johnson, your source, is in any

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<v Speaker 1>danger for revealing this.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he's a ballsy guy, Walter. One of the things

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<v Speaker 2>I love about America, in the English system we operate

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<v Speaker 2>under in Australia, people get intimidated by governments. But the

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<v Speaker 2>thing I love about America is you guys were imbued

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<v Speaker 2>with civics. You're not taught to hate the media and

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<v Speaker 2>you're not taught to not be a whistleblower. People are

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<v Speaker 2>encouraged to come forward when they see wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I really admire that about America. People speak out

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<v Speaker 2>when they see wrong. And he's a good, brave man.

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<v Speaker 2>He's written a terrific book that basically highlights chapter and

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<v Speaker 2>verse the failings inside the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. And I

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<v Speaker 2>sincerely hope the top people in Washington listen to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Because interestingly enough, he was one of the guys who

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<v Speaker 2>sounded the alarm about right wing groups shortly before the

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<v Speaker 2>January 6th congressional takeover where the Congress was invaded by

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<v Speaker 2>thugs that trashed the Congress. So, you know, he's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the people who I think has persistently taken a

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<v Speaker 2>strong stand on combating and predicting threats and good on

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<v Speaker 2>him for writing the book he's written.

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<v Speaker 1>Ross Coulthard, News Nation. What's the name of the show?

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<v Speaker 1>How can we see you on News Nation?

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<v Speaker 2>Reality check. Ross Coulthard. Thank you, Walter.