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<v Speaker 1>It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks very much, Nicole. It has been a wild weather

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<v Speaker 2>afternoon and evening here in New England and particularly in

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<v Speaker 2>eastern New England, and we're going to talk about that

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<v Speaker 2>in a moment with Matt Ben's of AQI Weather. I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate that he'll take a few minutes to it's been

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<v Speaker 2>a busy night for him. But my name is Dan

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<v Speaker 2>rayam the host of Nightside. Rob Brooks is back solo tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>running the program from the broadcast headquarters at an undisclosed

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<v Speaker 2>location in Midford, Massachusetts. My name is Dan Ray. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the host, and we have a very interesting set of

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<v Speaker 2>interviewees during this particular hour. We're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>seniors in the workplace, seniors going back to work because

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<v Speaker 2>of the economy. You're going to talk about a topless

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<v Speaker 2>protest coming up this Saturday on the Boston Common. And

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<v Speaker 2>then we're going to talk with US Spencer Buell of

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<v Speaker 2>the Boston Globe about several New England jingles. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>those little jingles that you just can't get out of

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<v Speaker 2>your head. We'll be talking about those. But we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to start off talking about this wild, wacky weather that

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<v Speaker 2>we've all experienced. I've talked to several friends of mine

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<v Speaker 2>in the last two hours, and with us, it's Matt

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<v Speaker 2>ben's ACKI weather meteorologist. Matt. Thanks for joining us. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been kind of a busy afternoon and evening for you,

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<v Speaker 2>I would suspect.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and thank you for having me here. Yeah, definitely

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<v Speaker 3>a busy afternoon into the evening with these slow moving

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<v Speaker 3>heavy thunderstorms that brought not only heavy rain, bud strong

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<v Speaker 3>dusty winds. We had many ports of hail here across

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<v Speaker 3>the Greater Boston area and things finally beginning to calm down.

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<v Speaker 2>Just now, when did you first notice I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what time your work schedule is, but when did you

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<v Speaker 2>first get an inkling that today might be a more

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<v Speaker 2>interesting I think this is the most interesting weather day

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<v Speaker 2>of the summer. I stand to be corrected by you,

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<v Speaker 2>the expert, But when you see hale, I've seen hale

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<v Speaker 2>on the newscast tonight and the six o'clock news looks

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<v Speaker 2>like they were hail size of ping pong balls coming down. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, ping pong golf ball size hail certainly something that

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<v Speaker 3>you don't see all the time here in New England,

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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, you know it started off earlier on this

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<v Speaker 3>afternoon when thud of storms really started to blow up

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<v Speaker 3>across New Hampshire and the kind of just sustained themselves

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<v Speaker 3>pushing due south, which you typically don't see a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of our storms come from the west or from the southwest,

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<v Speaker 3>but these came from the north. So already you knew

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<v Speaker 3>it was going to be unusual day just because of

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<v Speaker 3>the direction the storms were coming. But of course there

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<v Speaker 3>was a severe aspect in the heavy aspect of those

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<v Speaker 3>storms as well as they headed south and just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of sustained themselves here through the late afternoon and early evening.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it looked like watching some of the weather forecaster

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<v Speaker 2>in the six o'clock newscast, it looked like Boston got

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<v Speaker 2>a good amount of rain, nearly two inches as I

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<v Speaker 2>understand that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, round two inches of rain in Boston. Some spots

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<v Speaker 3>just checking south to town towards Plimpton, and then they

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<v Speaker 3>just had a line from there down south towards the

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<v Speaker 3>north side of fire Mouth, anywhere from two to four

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<v Speaker 3>inches of rain. Wouldn't be surprised if some backyard rain

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<v Speaker 3>gauges out there, maybe had that three to four inch mark.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, certainly some heavy soaking rain for a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of areas.

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<v Speaker 2>So now is it quieting down? I'm told that during

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<v Speaker 2>the summertime, once the sun sets, it tends to quiet

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<v Speaker 2>things down, at least this sort of weather activity tends

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<v Speaker 2>to get quieted down.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it will start to calm down. We do have

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<v Speaker 3>one set of storms coming out of the southern southwestern

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<v Speaker 3>the state right now. There is a warning on that

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<v Speaker 3>up in New Hampshire. But it looks like that those

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<v Speaker 3>are beginning to lose their intensity because they gain all

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<v Speaker 3>their energy from the daytime heating of the sun and

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<v Speaker 3>that's what helps to create the thermals in the atmosphere

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<v Speaker 3>that rise up and develop these storms. So once the

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<v Speaker 3>sun sets, things generally, at least in our neck of

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<v Speaker 3>this time of the night.

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<v Speaker 2>Now has this little afternoon weather phenomena. Has this helped

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<v Speaker 2>us a little bit with the big storm in Nesto

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<v Speaker 2>that is just about has finished with Puerto Rico as

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<v Speaker 2>moving towards Bermuda, and it looks as if it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to avoid us this weekend. Did this little weather pattern

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<v Speaker 2>kind of keep Ernesto a little further off out to

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a great observation, and that's exactly what we're

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<v Speaker 3>seeing right now. A large upper level low is what

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<v Speaker 3>we'll call it, coming across New England is now moving

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<v Speaker 3>into the maritime provinces of Canada, and what that's helping

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<v Speaker 3>to do is steering. It's nudging Ernesto to stay out

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<v Speaker 3>to see instead of turning towards the northwest, it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be more north and eventually we'll go more northeast

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<v Speaker 3>as we head into the weekend and early next week.

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<v Speaker 3>One thing that Ernesto is doing right now, it's slowing

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<v Speaker 3>down the weather pattern. So we've kind of been stuck

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<v Speaker 3>with this particular storm now the last two days. Typically

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<v Speaker 3>we'd only see these storms stick around for a day

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<v Speaker 3>or so, but now this has been a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>days across New England. Finally shifting off towards the east,

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<v Speaker 3>and then with Arnesto coming north, we may actually manage

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of dry days here through the weekend before

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<v Speaker 3>things get wet into early next week once again.

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<v Speaker 2>So we might look out. We've we've done pretty well

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<v Speaker 2>with weekends and this summer, and I was away for

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<v Speaker 2>about nine days, so I kind of missed a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weekends. I don't want to be speak out attorn here.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on a trip to Italy with a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of nightside listeners. We've been we've been pretty lucky with weekends. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe last weekend was kind of nasty, I'm told

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<v Speaker 2>by some friends. Is that true?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, last weekend was. We had a pretty pretty

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<v Speaker 3>wet stretch of weather going into the earlier this week,

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<v Speaker 3>through the last weekend and even the week before just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a gray, rainy stretch of weather. So at

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<v Speaker 3>least for us for this weekend at least turning out

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<v Speaker 3>dry Saturday Sunday. Do you want to stress? So, even

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<v Speaker 3>though Ernesto is way offshore, this is driving in some

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<v Speaker 3>swells that are going to be reaching the east coast

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<v Speaker 3>here over the next couple of days, So it may

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<v Speaker 3>be pretty inviting to go out to those beaches, but

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<v Speaker 3>just be aware ripped currents and some rough surf will

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<v Speaker 3>be a concern here for both Saturday and Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, as we grab these final few weekends, we'll come

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<v Speaker 2>a few final few weekends of August and then Labor Day.

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<v Speaker 2>All of that, we know we hate to see this

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<v Speaker 2>time of year ago as quickly as sometimes it appears

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<v Speaker 2>to be. Matt, appreciate you taking the time with us today.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you have a very RESTful and easy rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the night, and nothing more, nothing more. Pops me

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<v Speaker 2>you bet you, thank you so much. When we get back,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk with a director of financial planning,

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<v Speaker 2>analysis and treasury for a company called caring dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>His name is John Farrell, not the former Red Sox

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<v Speaker 2>manager John Farrell. We'll double check on that just to

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<v Speaker 2>be sure. But he's going to talk with us about

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<v Speaker 2>seniors in the workplace. Three and ten seniors in the

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<v Speaker 2>workfhace in the workforce, I should say, have decided they

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<v Speaker 2>unretired primarily due to inflation.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is a real problem, and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>problem for people who thought, Okay, my work and my

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<v Speaker 2>back and relax, not necessarily, so we will explain on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side of the break. My name's Day. This

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<v Speaker 2>is Nightside. We also are going to talk about a

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<v Speaker 2>topless protest this weekend on Boston Common, and four very

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<v Speaker 2>familiar New England jingles from more than a few years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>that most of us who have been around for a

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<v Speaker 2>while probably can't get them out of our heads. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we will explain all of this, and then coming up

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<v Speaker 2>at nine o'clock time, we'll talk with Boston Herald syndicated

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<v Speaker 2>columnist Jeff Robbins about concerns in the Jewish community over

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<v Speaker 2>the Democratic ticket, the Harris Waltz ticket. We will explain that.

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<v Speaker 2>Later on tonight, we're going to ask you about how

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<v Speaker 2>your economy's doing. Everybody's talking about the big macro economy.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know the micro economy. How is it

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<v Speaker 2>working in your household at this time? Back right after

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<v Speaker 2>these messages. My name is Dan Ray. This is night Side.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think a lot of us have been talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the economy in the last few months. Actually the

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of years, we had a lot of inflation.

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<v Speaker 2>Inflation is slowing down a little bit. But once inflation

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<v Speaker 2>gets a bite into our pocket books and our wallets,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't let go with us. As John Farrell the

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<v Speaker 2>director of financial planning, analysis and treasury for a company

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<v Speaker 2>called carrying dot Com. John Farrell, not the former Red

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<v Speaker 2>Sox manager of a few years ago. Welcome tonight's side.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you, sir?

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<v Speaker 4>Good eating Dan? How are you doing tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great. There was a namesake manager of the

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<v Speaker 2>Red Sox's name was John Farrell.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm well aware. I have his card. I'm actually a

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<v Speaker 4>born and raised Red Sox fan. My dad's from Walpole,

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<v Speaker 4>mass so Yeah, I was raised Red Sox, Celtics, Patriots, Bruins.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a Drew Blood soldiersy on me before I

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<v Speaker 4>knew what was what.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, good good for you. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of friends and relatives in Walpole, Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>Lewis Avenue uh was a was a home of some

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<v Speaker 2>relatives of mine. Anyway, some disconcerting news three and ten

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<v Speaker 2>seniors in the workforce have unretired primarily due to I

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<v Speaker 2>guess inflation. What's going on.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So, as you alluded to kind of in your

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<v Speaker 4>preamble there, Dan, in the last you know, four or

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<v Speaker 4>five years, the economic situation and specifically in this country

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<v Speaker 4>has been pretty uh pretty pretty uh volatile. I guess

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<v Speaker 4>you could say it, right, you know, starting with the

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<v Speaker 4>pandemic and and then you know the stimulus stimulus that

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<v Speaker 4>comes from that, and then right in you know, right

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<v Speaker 4>into the supply shy socks and and uh demand side shocks.

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<v Speaker 4>Then we have shocks that hit all the you know,

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<v Speaker 5>And everything like that.

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<v Speaker 4>And so you know, navigating for this for seniors as

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<v Speaker 4>they thought they were ending their career has been a

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<v Speaker 4>very very treacherous demand of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot of those folks are like me, baby

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<v Speaker 2>boomers who grew up and were told, hey, you work hard,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're able to retire maybe when you're sixty two,

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five, worst case scenario sixty eight, so three and

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<v Speaker 2>ten seniors in the workforce today, how do we how

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<v Speaker 2>do you calculate seniors? Is that people over sixty five,

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<v Speaker 4>future look like? Dan, That's a great question. I think.

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<v Speaker 4>And so you know, the future is it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's the scary things about your Your company is

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<v Speaker 4>a free, free website to do all all who need it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's the entire service is free. We help

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<v Speaker 4>We have people on the phone, we have resources digitally

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, free, which is which is obviously a good price

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<v Speaker 2>for somebody who's being forced back into the workforce. How

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<v Speaker 2>does your website generate money? I may be free, but

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, of course, so you know, with the community

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's that's totally legitimate. Uh. It sounds like a

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<v Speaker 2>great service. It's real simple, simple simple. It's called caring

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. I call it the treadmill of life. I

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<v Speaker 2>now we're back on the treadmill of life. And if

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<v Speaker 2>free services, and maybe even some counseling. It sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>if you have people on the phone, live and in person. Correct, John,

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<v Speaker 2>did we lose? Did we you? We just lost? John?

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<v Speaker 2>I was giving winding up for the big finish there.

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<v Speaker 2>If we get him back. I just want to make

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<v Speaker 2>them back? Rob Okay, John, I was I was doing

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<v Speaker 2>was emphasize that besides the website for people of the

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<v Speaker 4>Get We have perfect we have we have fas FAM advisors.

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<v Speaker 4>They're waiting by the phone. Whenever you guys need to

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<v Speaker 4>talk to them. We have them all you spread out

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<v Speaker 4>if you don't if you want to talk to somebody,

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<v Speaker 4>you want to talk it through. I'm that way too.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. I don't like all the time the visital

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<v Speaker 2>Great and by the way, some bad news tonight the

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<v Speaker 2>Red Sox are losing in Baltimore. John, kind of closer

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<v Speaker 2>to where you are down there. I believe you're in

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<v Speaker 2>that Dan.

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<v Speaker 4>Tonight we got to focus on Drake Man, making sure

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me you give there are only three games out

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<v Speaker 2>of the wild Card. Come on, don't be it no

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<v Speaker 2>prom John Fowl. I really enjoyed the conversation you gave

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<v Speaker 2>me straight answers. I asked you tough questions because I

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<v Speaker 2>always make sure that anyone we have on this show,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't get a chance to talk to you

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<v Speaker 2>earlier in the day, are actually actually going to be

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<v Speaker 2>of help to my listeners, and that my listeners are

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<v Speaker 2>not going to find themselves in some sort of financial trap.

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<v Speaker 2>You sounds like a great organization Caring dot Com, and

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<v Speaker 2>you sound like a great guy, even though you weren't

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<v Speaker 2>the Red Sox manager in twenty thirteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're a good sport too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, thank you Dan, Thank you John.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, we come back. Very interesting story. There's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a topless protest this weekend on the Boston Common.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll let you know when where, And well, look, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's interesting, I really do. We might even talk

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<v Speaker 2>to talk with one of the protest organizers of this

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<v Speaker 2>Boston rally. Topless protest will take place on the Boston Common,

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<v Speaker 2>to be in support of what's called gender equality. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be back right after the news at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>the hour.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, welcome back, Thank you very much to call.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I just wanted to make mention because

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe Mustard, you should close your ears on this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh uh Cassio, Perier Cassio. I hope I pronounced your

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<v Speaker 6>Yes? Yes, yes, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan, excellent, Okay, Mustard Casio says hi. Uh. Cassio is

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<v Speaker 2>the organizer of a rally on the Boston Common which

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<v Speaker 2>is going to I guess start at the Embrace Statue,

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<v Speaker 2>which is now quite the landmark on the Common and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a topless protest to take place Saturday, is it

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<v Speaker 2>one o'clock? I believe, yeah, And you're gonna end up

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<v Speaker 2>marching up to the state house topless. Normally these sorts

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<v Speaker 2>of topless protests take place on beaches. So why this

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<v Speaker 6>Very simple? Topless equal right. If men can be topless

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<v Speaker 6>in public, women should have the same constitutional rights. Otherwise

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<v Speaker 6>men should cover the just.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you're looking for gender equality now that there

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<v Speaker 2>are probably some men who may may not who are

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll we'll leave that. So I was surprised in

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it is correct, But it's not in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no, I mean that's that's why you need

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing that was was really interesting to me

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<v Speaker 2>This said here. According to Equality, men acquired topless freedom

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineteen thirties only Wyoming, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, Kansas,

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<v Speaker 2>and Oklahoma. Those are not necessarily liberal communities, along with

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<v Speaker 2>some other individual counties and cities, allow full topless equality,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning topless women can go topless. How watcher crowd do

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<v Speaker 2>you expect of participants? Let's start it off with that

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<v Speaker 2>way do you expect on Saturday? And how big a

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<v Speaker 2>crowd do you think you would draw of spectators and

427
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<v Speaker 2>supporters either, and some might be both spectators and supporters,

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<v Speaker 2>some might just be spectators.

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<v Speaker 6>We have no idea. This is not our first time

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<v Speaker 6>in Boston. We usually do it in New York City,

431
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<v Speaker 6>and just some we decided to do it in Boston.

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<v Speaker 6>We've been having a lot of media.

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<v Speaker 7>Coverage Boston Globe, The Herald, and other major media for

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<v Speaker 7>the States so we hope to have a nice crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, look now you're on WBZ, which is the

436
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<v Speaker 2>largest radio station in New England.

437
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<v Speaker 6>On night side, done in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Primetime hours, so I'm sure there's going to be a

439
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<v Speaker 2>lot of people. So it starts at the statue at

440
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<v Speaker 2>one o'clock and then yes, you take a stroll across

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<v Speaker 2>the Boston Common. This is a dumb question, but I

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<v Speaker 2>have to ask it. Have you been given a permit

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<v Speaker 2>for this rally or could the police come and say

444
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<v Speaker 2>you don't have the appropriate permit? Have you sought to

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<v Speaker 2>get a permit for the for this rally in March?

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<v Speaker 6>We don't know what to protest, so everybody is allowed

447
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<v Speaker 6>to protest. We didn't know what's going to go that

448
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<v Speaker 6>big either as far as the media coverage, so we

449
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<v Speaker 6>might have a lot of people. We'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think it's everybody should be able to have

451
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<v Speaker 6>the right to protest without asking any permission.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I will tell you that in Boston. That's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the ways in which they sometimes try to

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<v Speaker 2>shut down these They'll say they'll say, well, you need

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<v Speaker 2>to have a permit issued. I'm sure you must have

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<v Speaker 2>lawyers or whatever associated with your group. And you may

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<v Speaker 2>think about that because you you know, you want to

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<v Speaker 2>make you want to have your protest, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a little friendly advice, is what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you. You may want to look at. I understand

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<v Speaker 2>some people want to say, look, the last the last

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<v Speaker 2>thing we want to do is we don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>ask permission. I get that, But Boston Common is one

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<v Speaker 2>of those areas where sometimes you might you might need

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<v Speaker 2>a you might need a permit. Just a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of what a word to the wise. How many of

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<v Speaker 2>these protests have you been involved in and in what

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<v Speaker 2>other cities and what success and what reaction have you

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<v Speaker 2>had from the public at large.

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<v Speaker 6>Cassio Well Go Topless was founded in two thousand and

471
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<v Speaker 6>seven by a rail who is the international spiritual leader

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<v Speaker 6>of the Rail movement. And we started protest in New

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<v Speaker 6>York City. So since that year, every year we go

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<v Speaker 6>to New York City.

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<v Speaker 2>And how have you been received? Have you been welcomed? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>People cheered, you give us, give us a what sort

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<v Speaker 2>of reaction you get?

478
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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, yes, it's a big it's a parade that we

480
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<v Speaker 6>have now every year in New York City, which is

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<v Speaker 6>actually illegal for women to be topless, But we want

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<v Speaker 6>to bring awareness that even if it's legal, many women

483
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<v Speaker 6>don't exercise that right and they don't even know sometimes

484
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<v Speaker 6>it's legal.

485
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<v Speaker 2>So it's legal in New York City, but probably not

486
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<v Speaker 2>legal in Boston. I don't know if you've ever heard

487
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<v Speaker 2>the phrase benned in Boston, and we have a various

488
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<v Speaker 2>history of Puritanical history. We had blue laws in Boston

489
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<v Speaker 2>where certain things couldn't happen on sun I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Boston has sort of a tradition of being the most

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<v Speaker 2>progressive city in terms of these protest of this nature.

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<v Speaker 6>If you get if you get the same yeah, the

493
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<v Speaker 6>same time gay marriage is legal, right.

494
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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and it was one of the one of

495
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<v Speaker 2>the first states, if not the first state. So yes, yeah,

496
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<v Speaker 2>so you know you're right. I mean, maybe maybe your

497
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<v Speaker 2>protest on on Sunday will open up beaches. You know,

498
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<v Speaker 2>they do have Anantucket as I'm sure you know that's now.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess a lot on the Nantucket and there are

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<v Speaker 2>some other beaches I'm told around Massachusetts where you know,

501
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<v Speaker 2>you can go topless, whether you're a man or a woman. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is your first time in Boston, Cassio or no

503
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<v Speaker 2>have you? Are you familiar with the city?

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, okay, I wasn't sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you might have been a native New Yorker. Okay,

506
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<v Speaker 2>so you are. You're a New Englander, so you know

507
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<v Speaker 2>what's going on. I'm gonna be very interested to see

508
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<v Speaker 2>how well you received. I think you'll be received much

509
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<v Speaker 2>better than perhaps many people might think. So best of

510
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<v Speaker 2>what on Saturday, I hope everybody is absolutely totally respectful

511
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<v Speaker 2>to the people who will be there, and that that

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<v Speaker 2>nobody nobody gets out of line, if you know what

513
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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, I think it's gonna go very well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so, okay, Cassio, Cassio Perier. And if folks

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<v Speaker 2>want to get more information in advance of the rally,

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<v Speaker 2>is there a website that we can direct them to?

518
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<v Speaker 2>What what what?

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<v Speaker 4>Go?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's a that's pretty simple, Go topless dot org.

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<v Speaker 6>And we have a Facebook page, Instagram and tweet x. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you're you're all up on social media and

523
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<v Speaker 2>they can start with go topless dot org. Cassio. I

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed our conversation. Thanks very much, Thank you for the

525
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<v Speaker 2>shout out from Mustard the Cordy.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, when we get back, we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about four New England jingles from more than a few

529
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<v Speaker 2>years ago. But if you've been around New England for

530
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<v Speaker 2>a while, you're going to know most of these. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk with Spencer Buell, who's a writer for

532
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<v Speaker 2>the Boston Globe. I think this next segment will be fun,

533
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<v Speaker 2>something which all of us will stir some some memories.

534
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<v Speaker 2>And maybe you'll be singing these tunes or whistling these

535
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<v Speaker 2>tunes or humming these tunes tomorrow once you hear them

536
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<v Speaker 2>after not that many years back on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Right after this, now back to Dan Ray live from

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<v Speaker 1>the Window World Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, indeed and very comfortable Window World Nightside Studios. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm delighted to welcome Spencer Buell, who writes for the

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<v Speaker 2>Boston Globe. Spencer, welcome to Nightside. How are you.

542
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<v Speaker 5>Great?

543
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<v Speaker 2>Thanks?

544
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<v Speaker 5>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely I think this is your Nightside dabut you if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not mistaken. And uh, and I'm fascinated by this,

547
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<v Speaker 2>uh this story. What do you do stories on kind

548
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<v Speaker 2>of nostalgic things. Tell us what's what's your not necessarily

549
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<v Speaker 2>your beat, but but what's your area with the Globe.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so my so my beat for the Globe really

551
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<v Speaker 5>is I cover Cambridge in Summerville. We have this newsletter,

552
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<v Speaker 5>the Camberville Newsletter that we uh that we write, that

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<v Speaker 5>we put out. My focus is generally on those two cities.

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<v Speaker 5>But I also the Globe very kindly lets me branch

555
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<v Speaker 5>out into stuff that I think is really interesting, and

556
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<v Speaker 5>sometimes I write for the Globe magazine and so so

557
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<v Speaker 5>this case, the reason you brought me on here today,

558
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<v Speaker 5>that was a Globe magazine story where I got to

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<v Speaker 5>branch out and do something I think is really fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it absolutely is fun. I had a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>read it. So, uh, those of us in New England

562
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<v Speaker 2>remember many of these. I think I remember all of them,

563
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<v Speaker 2>but correct me if I'm wrong. But these these were

564
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<v Speaker 2>jingles that were just everywhere in the seventies and eighties,

565
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<v Speaker 2>particularly on television. Is am I am I focusing people

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<v Speaker 2>properly when I say it that way.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's right. I mean we So what we did

568
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<v Speaker 5>was we focused on we really wanted to do a

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<v Speaker 5>story about famous New England jingles, and because it's me

570
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<v Speaker 5>writing the story, I you know, I grew up in

571
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<v Speaker 5>Massachusetts and the nineties and two thousands, and that's sort

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<v Speaker 5>of where my frame of reference is for a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of my favorite jingles, the ones that I really grew

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<v Speaker 5>up with. But the thing about a lot of these

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<v Speaker 5>New England jingles is a lot of them go back

576
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<v Speaker 5>quite a way, and so they've been on the air

577
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<v Speaker 5>since the eighties, you know, which I will point out

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<v Speaker 5>there are a lot of pop stars that would love

579
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<v Speaker 5>to have stayed on the air since the eighties. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>there's songs that don't last the summer. And well, let

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<v Speaker 5>me go.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go to a couple here, just so people

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<v Speaker 2>know what we're talking about. Okay, let us go to

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<v Speaker 2>the Giant Glass jingle. Well, I don't know the Giant

585
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<v Speaker 2>Glass is still around, they may be, but this is

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<v Speaker 2>cut nineteen. I think everyone who is an adult and

587
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<v Speaker 2>has spent time in New England for the last you know,

588
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<v Speaker 2>thirty or so or more years will recognize this one

589
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<v Speaker 2>Cut nineteen.

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<v Speaker 8>Rob Giant Glass will replace your windshield and give you

591
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<v Speaker 8>a safe drive away time to ensure your car safety.

592
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<v Speaker 8>So called the number more New Englanders trust undred and

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<v Speaker 8>fifty four Giant.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. I don't know who that announcer was, but what

595
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<v Speaker 2>a great set of radio, old radio pipes he had

596
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<v Speaker 2>deep deep oh yeah pipes. And that jingle's been around.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard that one in a while. Is Giant

598
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<v Speaker 2>Glass still in business? Do you know? Or no? It isn't.

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<v Speaker 5>It isn't, so it was bought out by Safe Light,

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<v Speaker 5>and Safe Light of course has its own jingle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>See, I've made a promise to myself. I wasn't going

603
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<v Speaker 5>to sing on the radio. But you know the one

604
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<v Speaker 5>you know that you no I know?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, absolutely, Okay, So we got another one here that

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<v Speaker 2>I think everybody who is ever skied in New England

607
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<v Speaker 2>would be familiar with. I'm not going to tell people

608
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<v Speaker 2>what it is because as soon as they hear it,

609
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<v Speaker 2>they will know it's cut twenty one rob.

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<v Speaker 4>Whoa, whoa, whoa.

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<v Speaker 8>We've got to get rid of that jingle.

612
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<v Speaker 7>Are you serious?

613
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<v Speaker 1>That jingle is great?

614
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<v Speaker 2>The jingle is the best.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of people that won't come up

616
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<v Speaker 1>here because of that jingle.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's have the customer to vote. Hey, let's set up

618
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<v Speaker 5>a ballot box.

619
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<v Speaker 6>Up in the front.

620
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<v Speaker 4>One for saving it and one for losing.

621
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<v Speaker 1>Let the people decide cool democracy lose.

622
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<v Speaker 2>Mota. Oh yeah, now look, aunt what chusets is still around?

623
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that jingle is still being employed

624
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<v Speaker 2>by the by the owners of more chuse It's what's

625
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<v Speaker 2>the history there, Stephen. But they apologize.

626
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<v Speaker 5>So they So they loved their jingle. They've been using

627
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<v Speaker 5>it for many years now. They they do still very

628
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<v Speaker 5>much use it. The story with that one, I love

629
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<v Speaker 5>that all of these have like a have a backstory,

630
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<v Speaker 5>and this one, this one definitely does. So this was

631
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<v Speaker 5>like around around nineteen ninety. They didn't have a jingle yet,

632
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<v Speaker 5>but they had these billboards all up and down the

633
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<v Speaker 5>mouse pike. And somebody's driving up and down the mouse

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<v Speaker 5>pike and they see the watch who said billboard while

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<v Speaker 5>they're listening to an old nineteen sixties dance hit called

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<v Speaker 5>the wah wah Tu see. Yes, I have to be

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<v Speaker 5>honest with you. I to be honest with you. I

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<v Speaker 5>did not know the wa wa su see, but a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of people did.

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<v Speaker 2>I did, I did. I never did it, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was but as a young child, I remember the wa

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<v Speaker 2>tu see. Yes, remember the rest? Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>So so here I am dating myself again as like

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<v Speaker 5>a guy in his thirties who my references the nineties.

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<v Speaker 5>I grew up with wah wah choose it, not the

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<v Speaker 5>wawa tu see. But anyways, this guy hears it and

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<v Speaker 5>he pitches it to the watch use of people. He

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<v Speaker 5>just he records it himself and brings it to the

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<v Speaker 5>watch juset Mountain and says, this has got to be

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<v Speaker 5>your jingle. And at first they didn't like it. They're

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<v Speaker 5>like to goofy, I don't know, let me hear it again.

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<v Speaker 5>And by the third time they heard it, they said

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<v Speaker 5>it was like, this has to be it. This is

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<v Speaker 5>this is our jingle going forward. And they've kept it

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<v Speaker 5>the whole time. They said that people it's so recognizable

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<v Speaker 5>that sometimes all they do in their commercials is they

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<v Speaker 5>just play those first three notes, the bump bump bump.

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<v Speaker 5>When people know it's what use it, They're like, they

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<v Speaker 5>don't even have to say watch you said anymore?

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<v Speaker 2>We got two more. Here here's one that I think

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<v Speaker 2>everybody This one, of course, wa war two sits is

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<v Speaker 2>a winter jingle. This is a summer jingle cut number

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two rub when the sun and the sun gets

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<v Speaker 2>hot a very see me but has some fun boy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you a lot of people know that that one.

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<v Speaker 2>That is for sure. I think that might have been

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<v Speaker 2>around even for a guy in his thirties.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, that was. That one dates back to nineteen eighty four.

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<v Speaker 5>So guy, the guy who recorded that, this guy named

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<v Speaker 5>Tom Roussel, and at the time, he was like a

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<v Speaker 5>Berkeley grad who was looking for work in music. He

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<v Speaker 5>was doing all these playing all these gigs everywhere, taking

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<v Speaker 5>lessons like kind of it's not always easy to make

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<v Speaker 5>a living as a musician. And one of the gigs

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<v Speaker 5>that he had was writing jingles for small businesses. In

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<v Speaker 5>one day, he gets you know, he gets a request

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<v Speaker 5>from a local water park to do a jingle, and

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<v Speaker 5>so he puts it together. He writes it in about

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<v Speaker 5>three days, which is how long he had to do

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<v Speaker 5>it to write it, record it with a bunch of musicians.

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<v Speaker 5>The song goes out there and it stayed on the

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<v Speaker 5>radio for forty years. Just pretty remarkable. But this guy,

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<v Speaker 5>remember he's just working as a freelancer. So he was

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<v Speaker 5>paid a one time feet four hundred bucks and that

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<v Speaker 5>was it. You know, de root is not Tom.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, forty years, four hundred bucks. That works out to

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<v Speaker 2>what's it like ten bucks a years when you do

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<v Speaker 2>the math. Okay, last, but not least one that all

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<v Speaker 2>of us remember. And this is a company. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure if they got bought or not, but they were.

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<v Speaker 2>They were everywhere. This is cut twenty three rob Bernie

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<v Speaker 2>and feels. It's all about the furniture and it's all

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<v Speaker 2>that beautiful customer quality becom in price. That's nice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's nice. Are they still around? You know, I haven't

695
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<v Speaker 2>bought furniture a number of years.

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<v Speaker 5>So they are still family owned by the Rubens family.

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<v Speaker 5>Bernie of Bernie and Phil's sadly passed a few years ago,

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<v Speaker 5>but the family is still running it. So it's now

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<v Speaker 5>the third generation is now at the helmet that thing,

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<v Speaker 5>which is which is pretty cool. So the thing with

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<v Speaker 5>this jingle is that they had it for many years too.

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<v Speaker 5>But in the twenty ten's, like around twenty fourteen, I

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<v Speaker 5>think it was they decided that they were going to

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<v Speaker 5>get rid of the jingle. They think that people were

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<v Speaker 5>getting sick of it, and then it was sending kind

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<v Speaker 5>of the wrong message that it was like, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we're we do more than just sell an expensive furniture.

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<v Speaker 5>We got good stuff here, so they got rid of

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<v Speaker 5>the jingle, but people were calling for it. They missed it.

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<v Speaker 5>They really wanted the nostalgia Bernie and Phil, who they loved,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, they're sort of like New England's grandparents.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 5>And so the grandkids now at the home of the

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<v Speaker 5>company said we want to bring it back, and so

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<v Speaker 5>the jingle is back. It lives on.

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<v Speaker 2>You would call that, they would call that back by

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<v Speaker 2>popular demand, literally exactly right. That's great, that's right, Spencer.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a great topic, a lot of fun for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever you have something that you'd like to talk about,

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<v Speaker 2>which this was in the Golob magazine last week. I

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<v Speaker 2>was in Europe last week. That's I got to go

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<v Speaker 2>read it. Was it in last week? Was it coming up?

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<v Speaker 5>It's coming out on Sunday, So it's on. You can

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<v Speaker 5>get it online now or you can pick it up

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<v Speaker 5>in you get it delivered or pick it up in

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<v Speaker 5>print form on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I will be reading it on Sunday afternoon, that

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<v Speaker 2>is for sure, Spencer. Great to make your acquaintance, and

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<v Speaker 2>I hope we get the cafe come back soon with

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<v Speaker 2>another very interesting and fun topic. Spencer Buell, The Boston Globe.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much, Spencer, thanks so much for having

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<v Speaker 5>me on.

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<v Speaker 2>You bet you we come back. We're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>talking about a little politics here and some unease within

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish voters about the vice presidential pick and maybe even

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<v Speaker 2>the presidential nominee of the Democratic Party. I'll explain with

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Robbins, who himself is a very committed Democrat, but

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<v Speaker 2>he has some concerns. Although there's no way, if you

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<v Speaker 2>know Jeff Robbins, he's ever gonna crossover and vote for

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump. I will explain it all right after the

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<v Speaker 2>nine o'clock news
