Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's Radio.
Speaker 2: Thanks very much, Nicole. It has been a wild weather
Speaker 2: afternoon and evening here in New England and particularly in
Speaker 2: eastern New England, and we're going to talk about that
Speaker 2: in a moment with Matt Ben's of AQI Weather. I
Speaker 2: appreciate that he'll take a few minutes to it's been
Speaker 2: a busy night for him. But my name is Dan
Speaker 2: rayam the host of Nightside. Rob Brooks is back solo tonight,
Speaker 2: running the program from the broadcast headquarters at an undisclosed
Speaker 2: location in Midford, Massachusetts. My name is Dan Ray. I'm
Speaker 2: the host, and we have a very interesting set of
Speaker 2: interviewees during this particular hour. We're going to talk about
Speaker 2: seniors in the workplace, seniors going back to work because
Speaker 2: of the economy. You're going to talk about a topless
Speaker 2: protest coming up this Saturday on the Boston Common. And
Speaker 2: then we're going to talk with US Spencer Buell of
Speaker 2: the Boston Globe about several New England jingles. You know,
Speaker 2: those little jingles that you just can't get out of
Speaker 2: your head. We'll be talking about those. But we're going
Speaker 2: to start off talking about this wild, wacky weather that
Speaker 2: we've all experienced. I've talked to several friends of mine
Speaker 2: in the last two hours, and with us, it's Matt
Speaker 2: ben's ACKI weather meteorologist. Matt. Thanks for joining us. It's
Speaker 2: been kind of a busy afternoon and evening for you,
Speaker 2: I would suspect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and thank you for having me here. Yeah, definitely
Speaker 3: a busy afternoon into the evening with these slow moving
Speaker 3: heavy thunderstorms that brought not only heavy rain, bud strong
Speaker 3: dusty winds. We had many ports of hail here across
Speaker 3: the Greater Boston area and things finally beginning to calm down.
Speaker 2: Just now, when did you first notice I don't know
Speaker 2: what time your work schedule is, but when did you
Speaker 2: first get an inkling that today might be a more
Speaker 2: interesting I think this is the most interesting weather day
Speaker 2: of the summer. I stand to be corrected by you,
Speaker 2: the expert, But when you see hale, I've seen hale
Speaker 2: on the newscast tonight and the six o'clock news looks
Speaker 2: like they were hail size of ping pong balls coming down. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ping pong golf ball size hail certainly something that
Speaker 3: you don't see all the time here in New England,
Speaker 3: and yeah, you know it started off earlier on this
Speaker 3: afternoon when thud of storms really started to blow up
Speaker 3: across New Hampshire and the kind of just sustained themselves
Speaker 3: pushing due south, which you typically don't see a lot
Speaker 3: of our storms come from the west or from the southwest,
Speaker 3: but these came from the north. So already you knew
Speaker 3: it was going to be unusual day just because of
Speaker 3: the direction the storms were coming. But of course there
Speaker 3: was a severe aspect in the heavy aspect of those
Speaker 3: storms as well as they headed south and just kind
Speaker 3: of sustained themselves here through the late afternoon and early evening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked like watching some of the weather forecaster
Speaker 2: in the six o'clock newscast, it looked like Boston got
Speaker 2: a good amount of rain, nearly two inches as I
Speaker 2: understand that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, round two inches of rain in Boston. Some spots
Speaker 3: just checking south to town towards Plimpton, and then they
Speaker 3: just had a line from there down south towards the
Speaker 3: north side of fire Mouth, anywhere from two to four
Speaker 3: inches of rain. Wouldn't be surprised if some backyard rain
Speaker 3: gauges out there, maybe had that three to four inch mark.
Speaker 3: But yeah, certainly some heavy soaking rain for a lot
Speaker 3: of areas.
Speaker 2: So now is it quieting down? I'm told that during
Speaker 2: the summertime, once the sun sets, it tends to quiet
Speaker 2: things down, at least this sort of weather activity tends
Speaker 2: to get quieted down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it will start to calm down. We do have
Speaker 3: one set of storms coming out of the southern southwestern
Speaker 3: part of New Hampshire pushing into the northern part of
Speaker 3: the state right now. There is a warning on that
Speaker 3: up in New Hampshire. But it looks like that those
Speaker 3: are beginning to lose their intensity because they gain all
Speaker 3: their energy from the daytime heating of the sun and
Speaker 3: that's what helps to create the thermals in the atmosphere
Speaker 3: that rise up and develop these storms. So once the
Speaker 3: sun sets, things generally, at least in our neck of
Speaker 3: the woods, start to calm down once you get to
Speaker 3: this time of the night.
Speaker 2: Now has this little afternoon weather phenomena. Has this helped
Speaker 2: us a little bit with the big storm in Nesto
Speaker 2: that is just about has finished with Puerto Rico as
Speaker 2: moving towards Bermuda, and it looks as if it's going
Speaker 2: to avoid us this weekend. Did this little weather pattern
Speaker 2: kind of keep Ernesto a little further off out to
Speaker 2: sea than it might have otherwise been.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great observation, and that's exactly what we're
Speaker 3: seeing right now. A large upper level low is what
Speaker 3: we'll call it, coming across New England is now moving
Speaker 3: into the maritime provinces of Canada, and what that's helping
Speaker 3: to do is steering. It's nudging Ernesto to stay out
Speaker 3: to see instead of turning towards the northwest, it's going
Speaker 3: to be more north and eventually we'll go more northeast
Speaker 3: as we head into the weekend and early next week.
Speaker 3: One thing that Ernesto is doing right now, it's slowing
Speaker 3: down the weather pattern. So we've kind of been stuck
Speaker 3: with this particular storm now the last two days. Typically
Speaker 3: we'd only see these storms stick around for a day
Speaker 3: or so, but now this has been a couple of
Speaker 3: days across New England. Finally shifting off towards the east,
Speaker 3: and then with Arnesto coming north, we may actually manage
Speaker 3: a couple of dry days here through the weekend before
Speaker 3: things get wet into early next week once again.
Speaker 2: So we might look out. We've we've done pretty well
Speaker 2: with weekends and this summer, and I was away for
Speaker 2: about nine days, so I kind of missed a couple
Speaker 2: of weekends. I don't want to be speak out attorn here.
Speaker 2: I was on a trip to Italy with a bunch
Speaker 2: of nightside listeners. We've been we've been pretty lucky with weekends. Well.
Speaker 2: I believe last weekend was kind of nasty, I'm told
Speaker 2: by some friends. Is that true?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, last weekend was. We had a pretty pretty
Speaker 3: wet stretch of weather going into the earlier this week,
Speaker 3: through the last weekend and even the week before just
Speaker 3: kind of a gray, rainy stretch of weather. So at
Speaker 3: least for us for this weekend at least turning out
Speaker 3: dry Saturday Sunday. Do you want to stress? So, even
Speaker 3: though Ernesto is way offshore, this is driving in some
Speaker 3: swells that are going to be reaching the east coast
Speaker 3: here over the next couple of days, So it may
Speaker 3: be pretty inviting to go out to those beaches, but
Speaker 3: just be aware ripped currents and some rough surf will
Speaker 3: be a concern here for both Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, as we grab these final few weekends, we'll come
Speaker 2: a few final few weekends of August and then Labor Day.
Speaker 2: All of that, we know we hate to see this
Speaker 2: time of year ago as quickly as sometimes it appears
Speaker 2: to be. Matt, appreciate you taking the time with us today.
Speaker 2: I hope you have a very RESTful and easy rest
Speaker 2: of the night, and nothing more, nothing more. Pops me
Speaker 2: you bet you, thank you so much. When we get back,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk with a director of financial planning,
Speaker 2: analysis and treasury for a company called caring dot com.
Speaker 2: His name is John Farrell, not the former Red Sox
Speaker 2: manager John Farrell. We'll double check on that just to
Speaker 2: be sure. But he's going to talk with us about
Speaker 2: seniors in the workplace. Three and ten seniors in the
Speaker 2: workfhace in the workforce, I should say, have decided they
Speaker 2: unretired primarily due to inflation.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: This is this is a real problem, and it's a
Speaker 2: problem for people who thought, Okay, my work and my
Speaker 2: work days are over. Now I can kind of kick
Speaker 2: back and relax, not necessarily, so we will explain on
Speaker 2: the other side of the break. My name's Day. This
Speaker 2: is Nightside. We also are going to talk about a
Speaker 2: topless protest this weekend on Boston Common, and four very
Speaker 2: familiar New England jingles from more than a few years ago,
Speaker 2: that most of us who have been around for a
Speaker 2: while probably can't get them out of our heads. Well,
Speaker 2: we will explain all of this, and then coming up
Speaker 2: at nine o'clock time, we'll talk with Boston Herald syndicated
Speaker 2: columnist Jeff Robbins about concerns in the Jewish community over
Speaker 2: the Democratic ticket, the Harris Waltz ticket. We will explain that.
Speaker 2: Later on tonight, we're going to ask you about how
Speaker 2: your economy's doing. Everybody's talking about the big macro economy.
Speaker 2: I want to know the micro economy. How is it
Speaker 2: working in your household at this time? Back right after
Speaker 2: these messages. My name is Dan Ray. This is night Side.
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Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Light Side Studios on WBZ NewsRadio.
Speaker 2: Well, I think a lot of us have been talking
Speaker 2: about the economy in the last few months. Actually the
Speaker 2: last couple of years, we had a lot of inflation.
Speaker 2: Inflation is slowing down a little bit. But once inflation
Speaker 2: gets a bite into our pocket books and our wallets,
Speaker 2: it doesn't let go with us. As John Farrell the
Speaker 2: director of financial planning, analysis and treasury for a company
Speaker 2: called carrying dot Com. John Farrell, not the former Red
Speaker 2: Sox manager of a few years ago. Welcome tonight's side.
Speaker 2: How are you, sir?
Speaker 4: Good eating Dan? How are you doing tonight?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great. There was a namesake manager of the
Speaker 2: Red Sox's name was John Farrell.
Speaker 4: I'm well aware. I have his card. I'm actually a
Speaker 4: born and raised Red Sox fan. My dad's from Walpole,
Speaker 4: mass so Yeah, I was raised Red Sox, Celtics, Patriots, Bruins.
Speaker 4: I had a Drew Blood soldiersy on me before I
Speaker 4: knew what was what.
Speaker 2: So well, good good for you. And by the way,
Speaker 2: I have a lot of friends and relatives in Walpole, Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: Lewis Avenue uh was a was a home of some
Speaker 2: relatives of mine. Anyway, some disconcerting news three and ten
Speaker 2: seniors in the workforce have unretired primarily due to I
Speaker 2: guess inflation. What's going on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So, as you alluded to kind of in your
Speaker 4: preamble there, Dan, in the last you know, four or
Speaker 4: five years, the economic situation and specifically in this country
Speaker 4: has been pretty uh pretty pretty uh volatile. I guess
Speaker 4: you could say it, right, you know, starting with the
Speaker 4: pandemic and and then you know the stimulus stimulus that
Speaker 4: comes from that, and then right in you know, right
Speaker 4: into the supply shy socks and and uh demand side shocks.
Speaker 4: Then we have shocks that hit all the you know,
Speaker 4: building building materials.
Speaker 5: And everything like that.
Speaker 4: And so you know, navigating for this for seniors as
Speaker 4: they thought they were ending their career has been a
Speaker 4: very very treacherous demand of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of those folks are like me, baby
Speaker 2: boomers who grew up and were told, hey, you work hard,
Speaker 2: and you're able to retire maybe when you're sixty two,
Speaker 2: sixty five, worst case scenario sixty eight, so three and
Speaker 2: ten seniors in the workforce today, how do we how
Speaker 2: do you calculate seniors? Is that people over sixty five,
Speaker 2: people over seventy's what's the the and yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: In the survey we we care dot com we did,
Speaker 4: the age range we included is between sixty two and
Speaker 4: eighty five.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, So are they people at the high
Speaker 2: end of that age range who are still working out
Speaker 2: of necessity. I'm not talking about somebody who has a
Speaker 2: job that is kind of an avocation type job. I'm
Speaker 2: talking about people who are working because they must work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So as far as that's the type of work,
Speaker 4: you know, I can't speak to that as much. But
Speaker 4: in our survey, you know, all respondents aged eighty eighty
Speaker 4: five rejoined to remain in the workforce to pay down
Speaker 4: medical or other debt. And so you know, we're getting people,
Speaker 4: you know, through that entire spectrum of ages stick to
Speaker 4: two two eighty five that are replying that they're having
Speaker 4: to go back into the workforce, yes.
Speaker 5: After having retired.
Speaker 2: Sorry, So that would be the younger people. There would
Speaker 2: be people, ironically who would have been born in nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty two and to have been born in nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 2: People could have been born as as as early or
Speaker 2: as late however you look as nineteen thirty nine. So
Speaker 2: these are people in the who were born in the forties, fifties,
Speaker 2: and a couple of years in the sixties who are
Speaker 2: now being impacted. This is the group you're concerned about.
Speaker 2: What's the future look like? I mean, obviously some of
Speaker 2: those folks, you know, at the higher end of the spectrum,
Speaker 2: they don't have a lot of work years left.
Speaker 4: Well, if they're unretiring, you know, I guess they would
Speaker 4: they would say their work years are done, right, you know,
Speaker 4: they thought they were done with the with the carousel
Speaker 4: and going around and around, and so what does the
Speaker 4: future look like? Dan, That's a great question. I think.
Speaker 4: I think it's risk. That's That's the kind of the
Speaker 4: world I keep coming back to with this survey and
Speaker 4: this and this and this and this piece is you know,
Speaker 4: seniors in this country are having to take on more
Speaker 4: and more risk, and the risk in either too much
Speaker 4: risk in their portfolio, right, having to invest in vehicles
Speaker 4: that maybe they shouldn't be at that age. Or it's
Speaker 4: risk in going back to the workplace and and having
Speaker 4: to wake up and put that damage and then those
Speaker 4: miles in the in the body right, Or it's it's
Speaker 4: having to cut back on essential expenses, whether that be
Speaker 4: you know, the nice to have medication or whether that
Speaker 4: be a level of care or service that they need.
Speaker 4: And so you know, the future is it's okay.
Speaker 2: So what's the scary things about your Your company is
Speaker 2: called caring dot com. Tell us what that does? I
Speaker 2: see the director of Financial Planning, Analysis and treasury. Does
Speaker 2: your company provide some help to these folks who are
Speaker 2: looking at their bank accounts and looking at their longevity
Speaker 2: and looking at their medical needs and saying.
Speaker 4: With with a pitch like that, you know, you could
Speaker 4: be Tim Wakefield. So you know, Karen dot com, we're
Speaker 4: a free, free website to do all all who need it.
Speaker 4: You know, it's the entire service is free. We help
Speaker 4: you through the entire journey, whether you're beginning it, in
Speaker 4: the middle of it, or restarting it right and and
Speaker 4: we have all types of resources for seniors, whether it
Speaker 4: be you know, link and resources to help finding you know,
Speaker 4: a new job or just you know, guidance through the
Speaker 4: financial landscape of you know, estate planning and end of
Speaker 4: life planning. And so you know, you can call us.
Speaker 4: We have people on the phone, we have resources digitally
Speaker 4: on the website. You know, however you want to get
Speaker 4: in contact with us, whatever level of you know, technology
Speaker 4: or interacting your comfortable with Go ahead, let me ask
Speaker 4: you this.
Speaker 2: Okay, free, which is which is obviously a good price
Speaker 2: for somebody who's being forced back into the workforce. How
Speaker 2: does your website generate money? I may be free, but
Speaker 2: I'm assuming that you're getting a paycheck? What what what's
Speaker 2: the sources?
Speaker 4: And yeah, of course, so you know, with the community
Speaker 4: that we work with and some of the and some
Speaker 4: of the senior senior homes you work with. You know,
Speaker 4: if we're able to find a solution for a senior
Speaker 4: and it works for them, and it works for the
Speaker 4: family and and you know, and they're happy. You know,
Speaker 4: the community, the community we work with, we have a
Speaker 4: contract with them and and they and they pay s
Speaker 4: good enough.
Speaker 2: No, that's that's totally legitimate. Uh. It sounds like a
Speaker 2: great service. It's real simple, simple simple. It's called caring
Speaker 2: dot com. I call it the treadmill of life. I
Speaker 2: use that term when I put my son on the
Speaker 2: kindergarten school bus many many years ago, as he you know,
Speaker 2: sort of struggled to get up to that first big step,
Speaker 2: I said, welcome to the treadmill of life. So these
Speaker 2: are folks who got off the treadmill of life and
Speaker 2: now we're back on the treadmill of life. And if
Speaker 2: you're in that situation, caring dot com has some free information,
Speaker 2: free services, and maybe even some counseling. It sounds like
Speaker 2: if you have people on the phone, live and in person. Correct, John,
Speaker 2: did we lose? Did we you? We just lost? John?
Speaker 2: I was giving winding up for the big finish there.
Speaker 2: If we get him back. I just want to make
Speaker 2: sure that people understand that they can go there and
Speaker 2: get web information on the website digitally. Okay. Uh. But
Speaker 2: also it sounded to me as if they do have
Speaker 2: some people who are available via phone, so you can
Speaker 2: ask questions and get some answers and all of this
Speaker 2: will be free. Uh. If you want to take avail
Speaker 2: yourself of it again, it's caring dot com. You got
Speaker 2: them back? Rob Okay, John, I was I was doing
Speaker 2: the big pitch there. I was trying to close it
Speaker 2: up for you, and so all I wanted to do
Speaker 2: was emphasize that besides the website for people of the
Speaker 2: baby boomer generation, we like to talk to other people,
Speaker 2: you do have some people who they can.
Speaker 4: Get We have perfect we have we have fas FAM advisors.
Speaker 4: They're waiting by the phone. Whenever you guys need to
Speaker 4: talk to them. We have them all you spread out
Speaker 4: all across the country. We got we got coverage. Yes,
Speaker 4: if you don't if you want to talk to somebody,
Speaker 4: you want to talk it through. I'm that way too.
Speaker 4: You know. I don't like all the time the visital
Speaker 4: messaging because I think the feedback loop on that sometimes
Speaker 4: can be just too slow to solve problems. And so
Speaker 4: of course we have people waiting by the phone ready
Speaker 4: to talk.
Speaker 2: Great and by the way, some bad news tonight the
Speaker 2: Red Sox are losing in Baltimore. John, kind of closer
Speaker 2: to where you are down there. I believe you're in
Speaker 2: that Dan.
Speaker 4: Tonight we got to focus on Drake Man, making sure
Speaker 4: he's going all right. I haven't watched anything yet, but
Speaker 4: now don't.
Speaker 2: Tell me you give there are only three games out
Speaker 2: of the wild Card. Come on, don't be it no
Speaker 2: prom John Fowl. I really enjoyed the conversation you gave
Speaker 2: me straight answers. I asked you tough questions because I
Speaker 2: always make sure that anyone we have on this show,
Speaker 2: and I didn't get a chance to talk to you
Speaker 2: earlier in the day, are actually actually going to be
Speaker 2: of help to my listeners, and that my listeners are
Speaker 2: not going to find themselves in some sort of financial trap.
Speaker 2: You sounds like a great organization Caring dot Com, and
Speaker 2: you sound like a great guy, even though you weren't
Speaker 2: the Red Sox manager in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 4: Thanks very much.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're a good sport too.
Speaker 4: Yep, thank you Dan, Thank you John.
Speaker 2: All Right, we come back. Very interesting story. There's going
Speaker 2: to be a topless protest this weekend on the Boston Common.
Speaker 2: I'll let you know when where, And well, look, I
Speaker 2: think it's interesting, I really do. We might even talk
Speaker 2: about this at some length tomorrow night, but we're going
Speaker 2: to talk with one of the protest organizers of this
Speaker 2: Boston rally. Topless protest will take place on the Boston Common,
Speaker 2: not at a beach on the Boston Common. It's going
Speaker 2: to be in support of what's called gender equality. We'll
Speaker 2: be back right after the news at the bottom of
Speaker 2: the hour.
Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back, Thank you very much to call.
Speaker 2: By the way, I just wanted to make mention because
Speaker 2: I'm enjoined in our remote studio tonight by a wonderful
Speaker 2: dog named Mustard. He's a corgy his grandfather one of
Speaker 2: his grandfathers, I guess. And he's a Corgi that was
Speaker 2: adopted from a great shelter a year ago. He's a
Speaker 2: magnificent dog. And he has sat here with me quietly,
Speaker 2: has not barked. I gave him the instructions you can't
Speaker 2: bark during the program. He's the Uh, he's his his
Speaker 2: parents and my daughter Katie, and my son in law Ted.
Speaker 2: Uh and uh. I just am so thrilled that that
Speaker 2: Mustard really understand I think he understands what we're talking about.
Speaker 2: And maybe Mustard, you should close your ears on this one.
Speaker 2: No problem. I want to welcome to a remote studio here.
Speaker 2: Uh uh Cassio, Perier Cassio. I hope I pronounced your
Speaker 2: first name correctly. Is that the way it goes?
Speaker 6: Yes? Yes, yes, thank you.
Speaker 2: Dan, excellent, Okay, Mustard Casio says hi. Uh. Cassio is
Speaker 2: the organizer of a rally on the Boston Common which
Speaker 2: is going to I guess start at the Embrace Statue,
Speaker 2: which is now quite the landmark on the Common and
Speaker 2: it's a topless protest to take place Saturday, is it
Speaker 2: one o'clock? I believe, yeah, And you're gonna end up
Speaker 2: marching up to the state house topless. Normally these sorts
Speaker 2: of topless protests take place on beaches. So why this
Speaker 2: locale on Saturday?
Speaker 6: Very simple? Topless equal right. If men can be topless
Speaker 6: in public, women should have the same constitutional rights. Otherwise
Speaker 6: men should cover the just.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're looking for gender equality now that there
Speaker 2: are probably some men who may may not who are
Speaker 2: not in the best shape. Let's put it like that.
Speaker 2: So we'll we'll leave that. So I was surprised in
Speaker 2: the article that I read that there's a bunch of
Speaker 2: states around the country where topless sunbathing is allowed. Is
Speaker 2: that correct?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is correct, But it's not in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I mean that's that's why you need
Speaker 2: the That's why you need the rally. I get that.
Speaker 2: But the thing that was was really interesting to me
Speaker 2: there was that a lot of those states were sort
Speaker 2: of from the heart land there, I think Kansas and Wyoming,
Speaker 2: not states that you would think of necessarily as places
Speaker 2: where uh, you know, going topless for women, going topless
Speaker 2: those wouldn't be the states that would come to mind
Speaker 2: initially interestingly enough to do you know what I mean
Speaker 2: by that politically?
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, yeah, Massachusetts is a liberal state, right, so
Speaker 6: we're able to have the semi constitutional rights as men
Speaker 6: and they don't have a beach we do. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: this was.
Speaker 2: This said here. According to Equality, men acquired topless freedom
Speaker 2: in the nineteen thirties only Wyoming, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, Kansas,
Speaker 2: and Oklahoma. Those are not necessarily liberal communities, along with
Speaker 2: some other individual counties and cities, allow full topless equality,
Speaker 2: meaning topless women can go topless. How watcher crowd do
Speaker 2: you expect of participants? Let's start it off with that
Speaker 2: way do you expect on Saturday? And how big a
Speaker 2: crowd do you think you would draw of spectators and
Speaker 2: supporters either, and some might be both spectators and supporters,
Speaker 2: some might just be spectators.
Speaker 6: We have no idea. This is not our first time
Speaker 6: in Boston. We usually do it in New York City,
Speaker 6: and just some we decided to do it in Boston.
Speaker 6: We've been having a lot of media.
Speaker 7: Coverage Boston Globe, The Herald, and other major media for
Speaker 7: the States so we hope to have a nice crowd.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, look now you're on WBZ, which is the
Speaker 2: largest radio station in New England.
Speaker 6: On night side, done in the.
Speaker 2: Primetime hours, so I'm sure there's going to be a
Speaker 2: lot of people. So it starts at the statue at
Speaker 2: one o'clock and then yes, you take a stroll across
Speaker 2: the Boston Common. This is a dumb question, but I
Speaker 2: have to ask it. Have you been given a permit
Speaker 2: for this rally or could the police come and say
Speaker 2: you don't have the appropriate permit? Have you sought to
Speaker 2: get a permit for the for this rally in March?
Speaker 6: We don't know what to protest, so everybody is allowed
Speaker 6: to protest. We didn't know what's going to go that
Speaker 6: big either as far as the media coverage, so we
Speaker 6: might have a lot of people. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 6: But I think it's everybody should be able to have
Speaker 6: the right to protest without asking any permission.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I will tell you that in Boston. That's
Speaker 2: one of the ways in which they sometimes try to
Speaker 2: shut down these They'll say they'll say, well, you need
Speaker 2: to have a permit issued. I'm sure you must have
Speaker 2: lawyers or whatever associated with your group. And you may
Speaker 2: think about that because you you know, you want to
Speaker 2: make you want to have your protest, and I just
Speaker 2: it's just a little friendly advice, is what I'm trying
Speaker 2: to tell you. You may want to look at. I understand
Speaker 2: some people want to say, look, the last the last
Speaker 2: thing we want to do is we don't want to
Speaker 2: ask permission. I get that, But Boston Common is one
Speaker 2: of those areas where sometimes you might you might need
Speaker 2: a you might need a permit. Just a little bit
Speaker 2: of what a word to the wise. How many of
Speaker 2: these protests have you been involved in and in what
Speaker 2: other cities and what success and what reaction have you
Speaker 2: had from the public at large.
Speaker 6: Cassio Well Go Topless was founded in two thousand and
Speaker 6: seven by a rail who is the international spiritual leader
Speaker 6: of the Rail movement. And we started protest in New
Speaker 6: York City. So since that year, every year we go
Speaker 6: to New York City.
Speaker 2: And how have you been received? Have you been welcomed? Oh?
Speaker 2: People cheered, you give us, give us a what sort
Speaker 2: of reaction you get?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, it's a big it's a parade that we
Speaker 6: have now every year in New York City, which is
Speaker 6: actually illegal for women to be topless, But we want
Speaker 6: to bring awareness that even if it's legal, many women
Speaker 6: don't exercise that right and they don't even know sometimes
Speaker 6: it's legal.
Speaker 2: So it's legal in New York City, but probably not
Speaker 2: legal in Boston. I don't know if you've ever heard
Speaker 2: the phrase benned in Boston, and we have a various
Speaker 2: history of Puritanical history. We had blue laws in Boston
Speaker 2: where certain things couldn't happen on sun I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: Boston has sort of a tradition of being the most
Speaker 2: progressive city in terms of these protest of this nature.
Speaker 6: If you get if you get the same yeah, the
Speaker 6: same time gay marriage is legal, right.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and it was one of the one of
Speaker 2: the first states, if not the first state. So yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: so you know you're right. I mean, maybe maybe your
Speaker 2: protest on on Sunday will open up beaches. You know,
Speaker 2: they do have Anantucket as I'm sure you know that's now.
Speaker 2: I guess a lot on the Nantucket and there are
Speaker 2: some other beaches I'm told around Massachusetts where you know,
Speaker 2: you can go topless, whether you're a man or a woman. So, uh,
Speaker 2: this is your first time in Boston, Cassio or no
Speaker 2: have you? Are you familiar with the city?
Speaker 6: So yeah, okay, I wasn't sure.
Speaker 2: I thought you might have been a native New Yorker. Okay,
Speaker 2: so you are. You're a New Englander, so you know
Speaker 2: what's going on. I'm gonna be very interested to see
Speaker 2: how well you received. I think you'll be received much
Speaker 2: better than perhaps many people might think. So best of
Speaker 2: what on Saturday, I hope everybody is absolutely totally respectful
Speaker 2: to the people who will be there, and that that
Speaker 2: nobody nobody gets out of line, if you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Okay, I think it's gonna go very well.
Speaker 2: I think so, okay, Cassio, Cassio Perier. And if folks
Speaker 2: want to get more information in advance of the rally,
Speaker 2: is there a website that we can direct them to?
Speaker 2: What what what?
Speaker 4: Go?
Speaker 2: Well, that's a that's pretty simple, Go topless dot org.
Speaker 6: And we have a Facebook page, Instagram and tweet x. Yes.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're you're all up on social media and
Speaker 2: they can start with go topless dot org. Cassio. I
Speaker 2: enjoyed our conversation. Thanks very much, Thank you for the
Speaker 2: shout out from Mustard the Cordy.
Speaker 6: Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: All Right, when we get back, we're going to talk
Speaker 2: about four New England jingles from more than a few
Speaker 2: years ago. But if you've been around New England for
Speaker 2: a while, you're going to know most of these. We're
Speaker 2: going to talk with Spencer Buell, who's a writer for
Speaker 2: the Boston Globe. I think this next segment will be fun,
Speaker 2: something which all of us will stir some some memories.
Speaker 2: And maybe you'll be singing these tunes or whistling these
Speaker 2: tunes or humming these tunes tomorrow once you hear them
Speaker 2: after not that many years back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Right after this, now back to Dan Ray live from
Speaker 1: the Window World Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed and very comfortable Window World Nightside Studios. And
Speaker 2: I'm delighted to welcome Spencer Buell, who writes for the
Speaker 2: Boston Globe. Spencer, welcome to Nightside. How are you.
Speaker 5: Great?
Speaker 2: Thanks?
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Absolutely I think this is your Nightside dabut you if
Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken. And uh, and I'm fascinated by this,
Speaker 2: uh this story. What do you do stories on kind
Speaker 2: of nostalgic things. Tell us what's what's your not necessarily
Speaker 2: your beat, but but what's your area with the Globe.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so my so my beat for the Globe really
Speaker 5: is I cover Cambridge in Summerville. We have this newsletter,
Speaker 5: the Camberville Newsletter that we uh that we write, that
Speaker 5: we put out. My focus is generally on those two cities.
Speaker 5: But I also the Globe very kindly lets me branch
Speaker 5: out into stuff that I think is really interesting, and
Speaker 5: sometimes I write for the Globe magazine and so so
Speaker 5: this case, the reason you brought me on here today,
Speaker 5: that was a Globe magazine story where I got to
Speaker 5: branch out and do something I think is really fun.
Speaker 2: Oh, it absolutely is fun. I had a chance to
Speaker 2: read it. So, uh, those of us in New England
Speaker 2: remember many of these. I think I remember all of them,
Speaker 2: but correct me if I'm wrong. But these these were
Speaker 2: jingles that were just everywhere in the seventies and eighties,
Speaker 2: particularly on television. Is am I am I focusing people
Speaker 2: properly when I say it that way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. I mean we So what we did
Speaker 5: was we focused on we really wanted to do a
Speaker 5: story about famous New England jingles, and because it's me
Speaker 5: writing the story, I you know, I grew up in
Speaker 5: Massachusetts and the nineties and two thousands, and that's sort
Speaker 5: of where my frame of reference is for a lot
Speaker 5: of my favorite jingles, the ones that I really grew
Speaker 5: up with. But the thing about a lot of these
Speaker 5: New England jingles is a lot of them go back
Speaker 5: quite a way, and so they've been on the air
Speaker 5: since the eighties, you know, which I will point out
Speaker 5: there are a lot of pop stars that would love
Speaker 5: to have stayed on the air since the eighties. You know,
Speaker 5: there's songs that don't last the summer. And well, let
Speaker 5: me go.
Speaker 2: Let me go to a couple here, just so people
Speaker 2: know what we're talking about. Okay, let us go to
Speaker 2: the Giant Glass jingle. Well, I don't know the Giant
Speaker 2: Glass is still around, they may be, but this is
Speaker 2: cut nineteen. I think everyone who is an adult and
Speaker 2: has spent time in New England for the last you know,
Speaker 2: thirty or so or more years will recognize this one
Speaker 2: Cut nineteen.
Speaker 8: Rob Giant Glass will replace your windshield and give you
Speaker 8: a safe drive away time to ensure your car safety.
Speaker 8: So called the number more New Englanders trust undred and
Speaker 8: fifty four Giant.
Speaker 2: Now. I don't know who that announcer was, but what
Speaker 2: a great set of radio, old radio pipes he had
Speaker 2: deep deep oh yeah pipes. And that jingle's been around.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard that one in a while. Is Giant
Speaker 2: Glass still in business? Do you know? Or no? It isn't.
Speaker 5: It isn't, so it was bought out by Safe Light,
Speaker 5: and Safe Light of course has its own jingle.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: See, I've made a promise to myself. I wasn't going
Speaker 5: to sing on the radio. But you know the one
Speaker 5: you know that you no I know?
Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely, Okay, So we got another one here that
Speaker 2: I think everybody who is ever skied in New England
Speaker 2: would be familiar with. I'm not going to tell people
Speaker 2: what it is because as soon as they hear it,
Speaker 2: they will know it's cut twenty one rob.
Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 8: We've got to get rid of that jingle.
Speaker 7: Are you serious?
Speaker 1: That jingle is great?
Speaker 2: The jingle is the best.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people that won't come up
Speaker 1: here because of that jingle.
Speaker 5: Let's have the customer to vote. Hey, let's set up
Speaker 5: a ballot box.
Speaker 6: Up in the front.
Speaker 4: One for saving it and one for losing.
Speaker 1: Let the people decide cool democracy lose.
Speaker 2: Mota. Oh yeah, now look, aunt what chusets is still around?
Speaker 2: I don't know if that jingle is still being employed
Speaker 2: by the by the owners of more chuse It's what's
Speaker 2: the history there, Stephen. But they apologize.
Speaker 5: So they So they loved their jingle. They've been using
Speaker 5: it for many years now. They they do still very
Speaker 5: much use it. The story with that one, I love
Speaker 5: that all of these have like a have a backstory,
Speaker 5: and this one, this one definitely does. So this was
Speaker 5: like around around nineteen ninety. They didn't have a jingle yet,
Speaker 5: but they had these billboards all up and down the
Speaker 5: mouse pike. And somebody's driving up and down the mouse
Speaker 5: pike and they see the watch who said billboard while
Speaker 5: they're listening to an old nineteen sixties dance hit called
Speaker 5: the wah wah Tu see. Yes, I have to be
Speaker 5: honest with you. I to be honest with you. I
Speaker 5: did not know the wa wa su see, but a
Speaker 5: lot of people did.
Speaker 2: I did, I did. I never did it, but it
Speaker 2: was but as a young child, I remember the wa
Speaker 2: tu see. Yes, remember the rest? Yes?
Speaker 5: So so here I am dating myself again as like
Speaker 5: a guy in his thirties who my references the nineties.
Speaker 5: I grew up with wah wah choose it, not the
Speaker 5: wawa tu see. But anyways, this guy hears it and
Speaker 5: he pitches it to the watch use of people. He
Speaker 5: just he records it himself and brings it to the
Speaker 5: watch juset Mountain and says, this has got to be
Speaker 5: your jingle. And at first they didn't like it. They're
Speaker 5: like to goofy, I don't know, let me hear it again.
Speaker 5: And by the third time they heard it, they said
Speaker 5: it was like, this has to be it. This is
Speaker 5: this is our jingle going forward. And they've kept it
Speaker 5: the whole time. They said that people it's so recognizable
Speaker 5: that sometimes all they do in their commercials is they
Speaker 5: just play those first three notes, the bump bump bump.
Speaker 5: When people know it's what use it, They're like, they
Speaker 5: don't even have to say watch you said anymore?
Speaker 2: We got two more. Here here's one that I think
Speaker 2: everybody This one, of course, wa war two sits is
Speaker 2: a winter jingle. This is a summer jingle cut number
Speaker 2: twenty two rub when the sun and the sun gets
Speaker 2: hot a very see me but has some fun boy.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you a lot of people know that that one.
Speaker 2: That is for sure. I think that might have been
Speaker 2: around even for a guy in his thirties.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, that was. That one dates back to nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 5: So guy, the guy who recorded that, this guy named
Speaker 5: Tom Roussel, and at the time, he was like a
Speaker 5: Berkeley grad who was looking for work in music. He
Speaker 5: was doing all these playing all these gigs everywhere, taking
Speaker 5: lessons like kind of it's not always easy to make
Speaker 5: a living as a musician. And one of the gigs
Speaker 5: that he had was writing jingles for small businesses. In
Speaker 5: one day, he gets you know, he gets a request
Speaker 5: from a local water park to do a jingle, and
Speaker 5: so he puts it together. He writes it in about
Speaker 5: three days, which is how long he had to do
Speaker 5: it to write it, record it with a bunch of musicians.
Speaker 5: The song goes out there and it stayed on the
Speaker 5: radio for forty years. Just pretty remarkable. But this guy,
Speaker 5: remember he's just working as a freelancer. So he was
Speaker 5: paid a one time feet four hundred bucks and that
Speaker 5: was it. You know, de root is not Tom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, forty years, four hundred bucks. That works out to
Speaker 2: what's it like ten bucks a years when you do
Speaker 2: the math. Okay, last, but not least one that all
Speaker 2: of us remember. And this is a company. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure if they got bought or not, but they were.
Speaker 2: They were everywhere. This is cut twenty three rob Bernie
Speaker 2: and feels. It's all about the furniture and it's all
Speaker 2: that beautiful customer quality becom in price. That's nice. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's nice. Are they still around? You know, I haven't
Speaker 2: bought furniture a number of years.
Speaker 5: So they are still family owned by the Rubens family.
Speaker 5: Bernie of Bernie and Phil's sadly passed a few years ago,
Speaker 5: but the family is still running it. So it's now
Speaker 5: the third generation is now at the helmet that thing,
Speaker 5: which is which is pretty cool. So the thing with
Speaker 5: this jingle is that they had it for many years too.
Speaker 5: But in the twenty ten's, like around twenty fourteen, I
Speaker 5: think it was they decided that they were going to
Speaker 5: get rid of the jingle. They think that people were
Speaker 5: getting sick of it, and then it was sending kind
Speaker 5: of the wrong message that it was like, well, you know,
Speaker 5: we're we do more than just sell an expensive furniture.
Speaker 5: We got good stuff here, so they got rid of
Speaker 5: the jingle, but people were calling for it. They missed it.
Speaker 5: They really wanted the nostalgia Bernie and Phil, who they loved,
Speaker 5: you know, they're sort of like New England's grandparents.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 5: And so the grandkids now at the home of the
Speaker 5: company said we want to bring it back, and so
Speaker 5: the jingle is back. It lives on.
Speaker 2: You would call that, they would call that back by
Speaker 2: popular demand, literally exactly right. That's great, that's right, Spencer.
Speaker 2: This was a great topic, a lot of fun for us.
Speaker 2: Whenever you have something that you'd like to talk about,
Speaker 2: which this was in the Golob magazine last week. I
Speaker 2: was in Europe last week. That's I got to go
Speaker 2: read it. Was it in last week? Was it coming up?
Speaker 5: It's coming out on Sunday, So it's on. You can
Speaker 5: get it online now or you can pick it up
Speaker 5: in you get it delivered or pick it up in
Speaker 5: print form on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Well, I will be reading it on Sunday afternoon, that
Speaker 2: is for sure, Spencer. Great to make your acquaintance, and
Speaker 2: I hope we get the cafe come back soon with
Speaker 2: another very interesting and fun topic. Spencer Buell, The Boston Globe.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much, Spencer, thanks so much for having
Speaker 5: me on.
Speaker 2: You bet you we come back. We're going to be
Speaker 2: talking about a little politics here and some unease within
Speaker 2: Jewish voters about the vice presidential pick and maybe even
Speaker 2: the presidential nominee of the Democratic Party. I'll explain with
Speaker 2: Jeff Robbins, who himself is a very committed Democrat, but
Speaker 2: he has some concerns. Although there's no way, if you
Speaker 2: know Jeff Robbins, he's ever gonna crossover and vote for
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. I will explain it all right after the
Speaker 2: nine o'clock news