WEBVTT 1 00:00:14.160 --> 00:00:18.480 What's up everybody. It's me Cecily Nobler here with Stephanie 2 00:00:18.679 --> 00:00:20.120 Wilder tailor. 3 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:23.000 And say, hey, yo yo yo, yo, yo yo yo. 4 00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:24.800 I didn't expect that much. 5 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:28.399 I know, I don't even it's a lot of yos. 6 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:30.920 I went crazy, you know why, generous? 7 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:35.960 Yeah, generous. Also, today's a bit of an emergency. We 8 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:39.039 had something scheduled for tomorrow. Obviously, I texted stuff and 9 00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:40.320 I was like, we got to get on this broad. 10 00:00:40.359 --> 00:00:42.920 We're a couple of days late, actually, on this brad pitdsitch. 11 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:44.320 Yeah, we're two thousand late. 12 00:00:45.719 --> 00:00:49.039 What I was gonna say is just I okay, I'm 13 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:50.640 glad that we're a little bit late to it because 14 00:00:50.679 --> 00:00:54.039 my opinions changed a little bit and I needed a 15 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:56.640 couple of days honestly to sit with this. And really 16 00:00:56.679 --> 00:01:00.039 I got myself real worked up on this stitch. I 17 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:00.880 bet you did too. 18 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:06.000 No, I'm surprisingly not worked up about it at all, 19 00:01:06.120 --> 00:01:08.920 but I do have many opinions about it though. 20 00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:11.280 I mean, it's normal not to be work. I mean 21 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:13.000 I'm not worked up like I had to like take 22 00:01:13.040 --> 00:01:15.680 a day off work. I mean like I'm not making 23 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:19.640 it about me, like oh triggered. No, it's nothing like that. 24 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:22.239 I just well, also, let's get into it and then 25 00:01:22.280 --> 00:01:24.040 we'll just tell each other because we don't even know 26 00:01:24.480 --> 00:01:28.760 how we feel yet right from each other. We're obviously 27 00:01:28.840 --> 00:01:34.280 talking about Brad Pitt announcing making an announcement. Probably probably 28 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:36.040 didn't plan to do that. That was just one of 29 00:01:36.079 --> 00:01:41.159 those kind of got gotcha moments unexpectedly where he announced 30 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:44.120 that he has gone off the way. Are you on 31 00:01:44.159 --> 00:01:45.560 the wagon or off the way? He's off the way 32 00:01:45.560 --> 00:01:49.280 when you're yeah, he's off the wagon. He's gone off 33 00:01:49.319 --> 00:01:54.079 the wagon after allegedly seven years of sobriety. I have 34 00:01:54.200 --> 00:01:56.719 doubts about that, but I don't feel that's my business. 35 00:01:56.760 --> 00:01:59.760 So this is the time where he's saying, Okay, yeah, 36 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:02.239 I drink now I can drink again. 37 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:02.879 Yeah. 38 00:02:03.040 --> 00:02:05.680 So let me just go back really quick before we 39 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:08.159 get into because there's so much to get into. But apparently, 40 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:10.800 according to page six and a lot of other places, 41 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:14.159 he was seen at Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's wedding, 42 00:02:14.199 --> 00:02:17.199 because of course he'd be at that wedding. Kind I 43 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:19.080 want to say, like, all right, Taylor, you know I 44 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:20.840 love her, you know I do, and I know that 45 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:22.879 they love a celeb and they're so a list and 46 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:25.240 the most a list you can be. But like, are 47 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:28.120 they friends with Brad Pitt? Like did Brad Pitt need 48 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:29.199 to be at their wedding? 49 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:30.639 Like? 50 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:32.960 That's that kind of threw me, to be honest in 51 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:33.520 the first way. 52 00:02:33.680 --> 00:02:37.680 I mean, well, is is one of them or both 53 00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:39.639 of them friends with Brad Pitt? Who? I mean? 54 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:42.479 I could see Travis being friends with them, actually though, 55 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:47.400 because isn't Brad from like Missouri originally either Missouri or Oklahoma? 56 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:51.039 But I could see him being Oklahoma. I think he's Yeah, 57 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:51.960 I think he's Southern. 58 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:55.680 No, I swear it's Missouri, which some would also consider 59 00:02:55.719 --> 00:02:58.000 the South, but you could look that up. 60 00:02:58.240 --> 00:03:01.759 You could just see either way being Brad Pit. Should 61 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:04.759 I write where does Brad Pitt hail from? No, I'm not. 62 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:06.719 I'm just going to go where's he from? He is 63 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:10.840 from Oklahoma? He is, But listen, we're both right. He 64 00:03:10.960 --> 00:03:15.039 was born in Shawne, Oklahoma, grew up in Missouri. So 65 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:17.439 either way, you'd be a Chiefs fan. That's the closest team. 66 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:20.240 So I could see him like having become buddies with Travis. 67 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:23.039 So I guess it kind of makes sense in many ways. 68 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:25.120 But it just kind of struck me just right off 69 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:28.919 the bat. So apparently, according to page six, guests at. 70 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:32.919 The wedding, we're surprised, they say, to see Brad Pitt 71 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:36.879 tipping back drinks, so he's getting this is a little 72 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:40.159 getting ahead of something that maybe hadn't come out. I'm surprised. 73 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:43.639 I guess people had a pretty hardcore nda from that wedding. 74 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:47.280 You could not take photos, so people just didn't leak it, 75 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:51.719 I guess until now. So I was told page six 76 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:55.120 last month that he had been seen at the Star 77 00:03:55.240 --> 00:03:57.840 stud at affair, and they noted at the time the 78 00:03:57.919 --> 00:04:01.360 guests were shocked to see Pitt, who vocal about his sobriety, 79 00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:06.080 drinking at the high profile event with Adam Sandler, Paul McCartney. 80 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:08.240 We don't need to name everybody that was there. So 81 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:10.680 why was Tom Cruise there? Okay, So now I'm happy 82 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:12.639 to you because it is listing some more people that 83 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:14.879 were there that maybe we didn't talk about. What is 84 00:04:14.919 --> 00:04:18.199 Tom Cruise that Taylor's just sweating? They cannot be friends. 85 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:21.480 I don't see how they could be friends either. 86 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:24.360 I mean that's the thing. Is Taylor Swift not a 87 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:29.360 movie star? This is all just that's wow. Okay, what evs? 88 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:31.720 What evs? Oh my god, that's gross. It's like the 89 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:35.000 met Gala. Okay. So he went with his girlfriend who 90 00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:39.399 is thirty years his junior, the model. Just to remind 91 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:41.759 you that, in no way has he ever stepped back 92 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:45.800 and taken a moment and been alone in the crisis 93 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:48.519 that is his family. So he does an interview and 94 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:50.800 tell me, if I'm jump in whenever, I don't want 95 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:51.519 to know. 96 00:04:51.759 --> 00:04:53.720 We're good right now. I'm going to all have things 97 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:55.279 to say, but keep going. 98 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:59.240 In an Esquire interview, which just came out, we're not 99 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:01.639 that late. It just came out a couple of days ago. 100 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:05.079 By the time you're hearing this, he confirmed he made 101 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:08.199 the decision to drink again. He said, quote, I was 102 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:10.680 sober for seven years and then I got back off 103 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:12.879 the wagon. And apparently he kind of laughed when he 104 00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:15.319 said that, because it's just hilarious. Right then he said, 105 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:20.160 in a more restrained manner, I got overconfident a couple times. 106 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:23.879 Now, what he said was he's drinking now in a 107 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:24.759 more restrainedment. 108 00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:26.839 Oh, he's saying that right, And he says he got 109 00:05:26.839 --> 00:05:29.279 overconfident a couple of times. Went yep, nope, not good 110 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:33.279 for me, not in big quantities. And then he explained 111 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:36.040 that he can quote have a few glasses of wine, 112 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:37.639 but can't have a lot. To me, a few is 113 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:40.680 a lot, but that's where I'm very small. And then 114 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:43.639 he said, quote, I have to be professional about it. 115 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:47.160 So this is an esquire so lucky. 116 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:50.279 He's so lucky because he's one of the few, very 117 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:55.639 few alcoholics that can just have a couple. It's very rare. 118 00:05:57.439 --> 00:06:01.000 Yeah. First off, okay, let's go back to when he 119 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:03.480 had sort of started talking about a sobriety, which you 120 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:06.600 went back and listened to the podcast with his buddy 121 00:06:06.680 --> 00:06:07.399 Dak Shepherd. 122 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:11.800 Yes, and I yes, and I do. Uh. Why do 123 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:13.480 I always have to I have to make it known 124 00:06:13.519 --> 00:06:15.480 that I do not. I do not care for Jack 125 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:19.120 Jack Shepherd. I'm sure many people like him. He's gotten 126 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:23.439 very almost alt right. I don't know what he is, 127 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:27.959 but he is, you know, taking a lot of testosterone supplements, 128 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:32.360 and he's very you know, he's one of those guys 129 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:35.720 now and that's just who he is. But he loves 130 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:39.279 the sound of his own voice. He loves interviewing celebrity. 131 00:06:39.319 --> 00:06:42.920 First of all, I was listening. The reason I say this. 132 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:46.160 Is like a tiny bit off topic, but oh my god, 133 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:49.639 he took He talked so much, and so did his producer. 134 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:53.319 And I think her name's Monica from what I've heard, 135 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:57.120 But the two of them were talking so much. I 136 00:06:57.199 --> 00:07:00.399 was like, Brad fucking Pitt is on your podcas has 137 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:02.839 shut up for two seconds. 138 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:07.000 Let the man talk. It was crazy. Okay, so here's 139 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:10.120 what I got from it. Okay, so Brad Pitt. So 140 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:13.360 they were talking about so Dax Shepherd is very open 141 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:17.839 about his sobriety, Yes, even though he had a big 142 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:21.120 relapse and he did not talk about it openly. And 143 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:24.240 then he got like called out by his producer who 144 00:07:24.279 --> 00:07:27.040 started noticing he was like high on pills, is what happened. 145 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:30.680 So then he sort of came out about it and 146 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:33.959 was like honest about it again. So in this episode, 147 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:36.480 one of the things I didn't love is that they 148 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:42.319 were totally talking about meetings. But now, don't get me wrong, 149 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:47.040 I talk about meetings too when I'm doing drunkish, but 150 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:49.519 it was the way they were talking about it was 151 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:52.680 so kind of like, yeah, like we go to like 152 00:07:52.879 --> 00:07:57.279 special celebrity like Dax's just kept saying, oh my god, 153 00:07:57.399 --> 00:07:59.360 like when I saw you at that meeting, and like 154 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:01.800 when you came in and then like you said that thing, 155 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:05.360 like they were just outing each other. It was insane. 156 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:13.000 It was really weird and boundaryless, and so Dax was like, yeah, 157 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:14.759 I was so proud of you when I saw you there, 158 00:08:14.759 --> 00:08:16.680 because like, you know, it's got to be really hard, 159 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:19.600 like you're a big star. And then the woman I 160 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:22.360 guess let's just call her Monica, if that's her name. 161 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:26.199 Is like, yeah, like, did you were you worried about 162 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:28.560 like if you shared stuff like that, people would like 163 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:30.759 say stuff about like what you said. 164 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:34.519 It was. It was also weird that she was even 165 00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:36.679 weighing in because she wasn't there. 166 00:08:36.919 --> 00:08:37.320 I don't know. 167 00:08:38.039 --> 00:08:41.480 And then Brad goes, no, you know, I was really 168 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:46.759 like desperate basically, and he says, I'm trying to remember 169 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:48.960 like exactly what he said, but he goes, yeah, it 170 00:08:49.000 --> 00:08:51.480 was like I'm very shy. He goes, so I didn't 171 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:53.600 really want to talk. But then there's these other people 172 00:08:53.639 --> 00:08:56.960 and they're being really vulnerable and people were so nice 173 00:08:57.039 --> 00:09:00.879 to me, and I had just he was talking about 174 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:03.679 how he just surrendered, how he was in a really 175 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:07.519 bad place and he really needed the help, and he 176 00:09:08.120 --> 00:09:11.399 you know, kind of threw his arms up and jumped in, 177 00:09:12.039 --> 00:09:13.960 jumped in needed the help. 178 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:18.519 It was things were not going well for him. Can 179 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:21.080 I ask a question, and honest, this is not a joke. 180 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:25.240 Was he core ordered to do that because he was investigated? 181 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:28.679 Remember this all came after he was investigated by the 182 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:31.759 FBI for the plane incident, which we've talked about many times, 183 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:35.080 where he allegedly, we have to use that word, allegedly 184 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:38.919 poured a drink on Angela Angeli put his hands, possibly 185 00:09:38.919 --> 00:09:41.399 on one of the children. The children were terrified. He 186 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:42.840 was drunk and getting drunker. 187 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:45.919 Right, we just read that whole report about. 188 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:49.360 Which you have to say, it's not from the FBI, 189 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:51.639 it's from Angelina's legal team. It looks like so that 190 00:09:51.720 --> 00:09:54.039 is not necessarily that is her account of what happened. 191 00:09:54.039 --> 00:09:56.440 It doesn't mean we can't say for sure it happened. 192 00:09:56.519 --> 00:09:58.440 I was there, but I am not allowed to say. 193 00:09:59.039 --> 00:10:01.519 Right, I mean, and you wouldn't You wouldn't say because 194 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:03.639 it's like not your business and you don't you know, 195 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:05.159 you let Angelina do it. 196 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:08.039 Friend? Yeah, yeah, I'm not going to ruin that friendship. Obviously, 197 00:10:08.120 --> 00:10:10.320 But but don't you think like he was that was 198 00:10:10.360 --> 00:10:12.600 part of like some of the stuff he had to do. 199 00:10:12.759 --> 00:10:15.840 Is that possible, you know, you'd have to show up, 200 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:19.559 anything's possible. Yeah, I mean he did make it sound 201 00:10:19.679 --> 00:10:24.600 like he decided to quit drinking. But yeah, it's I mean, 202 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:27.960 it's totally possible that that definitely happens. You if you 203 00:10:27.960 --> 00:10:30.120 get arrested, then you get a court you might get 204 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:34.440 a court order to go, and then somebody has to 205 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:37.399 like sign your court card, and it's yeah, that's a 206 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:40.960 whole thing. That's very possible, probable that that's what happened, 207 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:42.960 because we don't know how often he showed up at 208 00:10:42.960 --> 00:10:45.559 those days, and we're not putting down I don't want 209 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:47.840 to put down the idea that he did do that, 210 00:10:47.919 --> 00:10:50.799 and he did show up and talk about it. That's helpful, like, 211 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:54.120 you know, if he was serious and was trying to 212 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:56.639 better himself in some way. But I have more thoughts 213 00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:00.320 on that, So tell us more about this interview or 214 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:03.279 anything else you want to tell us about them. Those two. 215 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:07.480 I don't like, that's all. That's all I know from 216 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:10.000 the The interview was kind of short, and it was 217 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:12.440 a lot of sort of patting themselves on the back 218 00:11:12.519 --> 00:11:16.120 and and you know, just about his sobriety and how 219 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:19.279 great it is, and you know, I mean that that's 220 00:11:19.320 --> 00:11:22.879 really kind of it. But it definitely seemed. 221 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:27.120 What there's more, there's more from this Esquire then, so 222 00:11:27.159 --> 00:11:29.759 that's the yahing. So he said what he said. And 223 00:11:29.799 --> 00:11:32.399 then okay, as we know, he's not like almost I 224 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:34.759 guess all the kids have dropped the pit from the name. 225 00:11:34.799 --> 00:11:36.960 I mean, it's a big deal, so he says in 226 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:40.120 this Esquire interview. Also he talks about how dark that 227 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:42.799 period of his life was. And I haven't heard the 228 00:11:42.799 --> 00:11:44.600 whole thing or read the whole thing, to be fair, 229 00:11:44.679 --> 00:11:46.480 so he may have gone into this. I don't know. 230 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:49.919 Sometimes age six just picks up, you know, it takes 231 00:11:49.960 --> 00:11:52.600 an angle, but it says he admits he wants quote 232 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:57.320 felt suicidal while navigating quote family stuff. Now I want 233 00:11:57.320 --> 00:12:01.039 to just say that I know two people interviewed not 234 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:04.039 the brightest bulb at least as far as like verbal like, 235 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:08.960 he does not present very well. Okay, So if he 236 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:11.440 says like family, it just might be how he talks. 237 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:15.039 It doesn't mean that he's like, you know, you know, 238 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:17.279 dismissing it. In some way. I just don't think he 239 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:20.080 always has the words. So he said, quote, I've never 240 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:23.720 been suicidal except for one little period. And in that 241 00:12:23.759 --> 00:12:27.559 one little period, I just thought I just couldn't didn't 242 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:30.480 see a way out. He said, the pain was so 243 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:33.000 oppressive that I wasn't going to act on this, but 244 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:35.320 I could feel I could feel the cold steel of 245 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:37.360 the bullet in my head and it felt like relief. 246 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:37.519 Wow. 247 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:39.519 I hadn't even read that full thing until I just 248 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:41.879 said it now, so trigger mm. 249 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:44.240 Hmmm, introactive tugger warning. 250 00:12:44.519 --> 00:12:48.120 Yeah, sorry, and that is awful, and I believe him. 251 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:50.840 And then he said quote and I thought, Okay, now 252 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:53.480 I understand. I understand suicide in the sense that it's 253 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:56.240 just relief, it's just looking for relief from the pain. 254 00:12:56.320 --> 00:12:59.200 But I also think we have incredible survival instincts, and 255 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:02.320 for me that immediately kicked in. But it was just 256 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:05.240 dot dot dot. He paused and said, quote, this shit 257 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:08.200 ain't easy, and you're talking to a guy who won 258 00:13:08.240 --> 00:13:11.000 the lottery. So I'm glad he actually said that because 259 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:14.559 he knows how privileged he has been, so he's saying, 260 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:17.120 look that's coming from me, that I felt this way. 261 00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:19.879 I can't imagine basically, if you're not a movie star, 262 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:22.120 like the best looking guy in the world with all 263 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:24.840 the money in the world, Like, maybe it's even harder, right, 264 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:29.399 he's probably saying. And then when the reporter asked him 265 00:13:29.879 --> 00:13:32.519 if what if he was dealing with quote, kids stuff, 266 00:13:32.519 --> 00:13:36.039 he replied, family stuff. We could leave it at that. 267 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:39.519 We could leave it at we can leave it at that. 268 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:40.759 We can leave it at that. 269 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:46.440 So there's a lot to dig into, and I can 270 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:49.000 I just tell you, like my first yeah, sure, go ahead. 271 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:51.240 My first thought might be different than yours, and it 272 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:53.480 has changed. But my first thought is like, oh my god, 273 00:13:53.679 --> 00:13:57.399 reading all these threads posts and everybody's this armchair expert 274 00:13:57.480 --> 00:14:01.639 speaking of Jax Shepherd, everybody's whatever, and I'm like, you know, 275 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:04.639 you guys have a little people should have a little grace. 276 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:08.600 Like his drinking and what he decides to do with 277 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:10.480 it or not do with it, or whether he's an 278 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:14.000 alcoholic or what isn't none of y'all's business. That was 279 00:14:14.039 --> 00:14:16.320 my first thought. I know that's crazy, and I have 280 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:17.120 changed my mind. 281 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:19.480 No, I don't think that's crazy. Okay, thank you. 282 00:14:19.559 --> 00:14:21.480 I was scared to tell you. Of course, you're gonna 283 00:14:21.600 --> 00:14:23.720 because I just felt like some of the people on threads, 284 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:25.120 it's like, Ari, who are you? 285 00:14:25.679 --> 00:14:29.200 Of course a lot of these people. Yeah, I mean, 286 00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:33.080 you're absolutely right. People's sobriety is their business, of course. 287 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:35.519 And they can make it whatever. But then I got 288 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:38.639 mad in a separate way. So it was separate. So 289 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:40.799 I'm like, I still believe it's none of the business 290 00:14:40.840 --> 00:14:43.240 of their like how much as these people are doing 291 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:46.200 god knows what on their computers and taking whatever they 292 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:49.559 take or drinking whatever they drink. Talking about Brad Pitt, 293 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:52.120 I hate that shit. But I also got really mad. 294 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:56.919 I'm like, does Brad ever publicly take any accountability for 295 00:14:57.120 --> 00:15:00.399 anything that he's done? No, And I don't know answer, 296 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:01.080 but I don't think so. 297 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:05.840 The thing is that that and we can be of too, 298 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:08.360 We can be of a few minds. I will. I'll 299 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:11.679 tell you what I think, and and it changes too, 300 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:14.720 because it changes depending on like what I read. You know, 301 00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:17.159 I read something and then I go that makes sense, 302 00:15:17.559 --> 00:15:21.080 and then I read something else. But like, from from 303 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:25.440 my opinion, this isn't going to work out like that's 304 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:28.039 that's that's my opinion. I've never seen it work out 305 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:31.000 for anybody. Who's really had to take a very hard 306 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:33.639 look at their drinking. It's it's not like it's not 307 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:37.399 a thing. Alcoholism doesn't go away. And we've talked about this, 308 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:41.720 We've talked about the idea that people have about like, well, no, 309 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:43.960 I was just going through a stressful time and now 310 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:46.000 I'm going to be now I can moderate. That was 311 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:49.360 just that was just a bad time of life. That 312 00:15:49.360 --> 00:15:52.080 that's just not it's not how alcoholism works once you 313 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:53.519 get dependent he's. 314 00:15:53.399 --> 00:15:56.120 An alcoholic or in other things like is he maybe 315 00:15:56.159 --> 00:15:58.320 just a rage addict? Is it a pot? Is it? 316 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:00.519 Could it not be alcohol? And he's like, I can 317 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:04.679 drink wine. I just shouldn't take this like is that pump? 318 00:16:04.799 --> 00:16:06.200 I mean that's the thing where I'm like, I don't 319 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:07.200 know if he's an alcoholic. 320 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:11.320 Well okay, okay, but this way of thinking is this 321 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:15.000 is kind of part of the problem, the thinking of like, well, 322 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:16.960 we don't know if he's officially an alcoholic. He could 323 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:20.000 just be a problem drinker. None of it really matters 324 00:16:20.120 --> 00:16:23.679 to me. But the idea and this is like this 325 00:16:23.799 --> 00:16:26.919 is hard because this is this is going to sound 326 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:29.159 really pompous, but this is like a lot of the 327 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:31.720 work that I had to do around this whole topic 328 00:16:31.879 --> 00:16:35.720 for years. Okay, so I'm sober seventeen years. I've had 329 00:16:35.759 --> 00:16:38.279 a lot of different thinking about it over the years, 330 00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:44.240 especially at the beginning. Your brain constantly questions like, okay, 331 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:47.000 but I don't know if I'm an actual alcoholic. Well, 332 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:49.279 try to think of it this way. What if there's 333 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:52.519 no such thing as an alcoholic What if it's not 334 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:58.039 a diagnosis. What if it's when you drink, bad shit happens. 335 00:16:59.039 --> 00:17:02.279 So for regular people who don't have a drinking issue, 336 00:17:02.759 --> 00:17:05.559 they don't get so drunk that they're beating their wife 337 00:17:05.559 --> 00:17:07.880 on a plane and scaring the shit out of all 338 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:08.920 their kids. 339 00:17:09.079 --> 00:17:11.559 Or cheating on another wife or god only knows what 340 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:15.079 when they're using whatever they're using. Yes, wo, So whatever 341 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:18.440 that is, whatever that thing is that's in him, he 342 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:22.400 that doesn't go away. It doesn't go away where you're like, oh, 343 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:23.799 I've mastered this and. 344 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:27.440 Now I only have one drink. And case in point 345 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:31.559 is that he's already saying I've already had. Yeah, there's 346 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:33.839 been some incidents. 347 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:36.000 Oh right, because he's like yes, A couple of times 348 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:38.200 I'm like whoa, whoa, whoa, Yeah, No. 349 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:40.440 Nope, you can't do that. Okay. You can't tell me 350 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:44.640 that prior to this he didn't beat prior to getting sober, 351 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:47.160 you can't tell me that he didn't go like, oh God, 352 00:17:47.240 --> 00:17:49.359 maybe I shouldn't drink. You can't tell me that he 353 00:17:49.400 --> 00:17:52.799 didn't have one hundred incidents where he drank too much. 354 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:56.039 But guess what, he's a celebrity, so he gets away. 355 00:17:56.039 --> 00:17:58.440 It doesn't matter. People are going to cover for him. 356 00:17:58.480 --> 00:18:01.279 It's like, oh, that's just Braddy's heavy drinker. Same with 357 00:18:01.319 --> 00:18:03.960 George Clooney, same with that whole fucking group. 358 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:07.119 Except Clooney well aff Like, yes, Clooney doesn't have the 359 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:10.359 reputation of being an asshole. He's definitely a drinker. I 360 00:18:10.359 --> 00:18:12.559 would say alcoholic if I had to use the word, 361 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:14.400 because I've told you I had to sign an NDA 362 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:15.279 at a thing with him. 363 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:18.319 Yes, so he has even alcohol issues. 364 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:20.799 I mean, yes, he likes he likes a drinky drink, 365 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:24.640 but he doesn't have no negative issues seem to come 366 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:26.680 from it that I know of. I'm sure he's womanized 367 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:28.920 or whatever. He's George Clooney, but like he seems to 368 00:18:28.960 --> 00:18:32.000 be for whatever reason, there's not that monster. 369 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:35.240 We haven't been public Yeah, correct. 370 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:36.640 You know what I'm saying. So, yeah, I mean Brad 371 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:38.799 has had quite a few. By the way, I did 372 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:41.799 google whether he apologized to Jen Anniston because I keep 373 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:44.519 coming back to, like, where's this freaking accountability about his 374 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:48.759 kids or anything? And it says that AI says that 375 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:53.000 he did apologize to her privately, which is fine, according 376 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:55.039 to them, that he called her at some point and 377 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:58.119 made and made amends maybe during his sobriety, and said 378 00:18:58.160 --> 00:19:01.440 he was emotionally absent as a partner and sorry about 379 00:19:01.440 --> 00:19:04.160 the painful way they're a marriage. So I mean, okay, right, 380 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:07.519 he doesn't owe it to us, She doesn't. Nobody owes us. 381 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:12.160 This is their life. But like I'm now thinking about 382 00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:16.680 those kids, and I'm like, dude, dude, even if you're 383 00:19:16.680 --> 00:19:19.559 still struggling with your sobriety, why are you what And 384 00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:21.599 I'm not speaking to you. I'm speaking to Brad Pitt 385 00:19:21.599 --> 00:19:23.599 because I know he listens, Like, why are you being 386 00:19:23.640 --> 00:19:27.400 so pompous about it yourself? Why are you like, yeah, yeah, 387 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:29.319 I mean I drink him. It's for fucking crazy, Like 388 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:32.240 you have six kids who are not speaking to you, 389 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:37.400 and your press couldn't be worse right now? Why what 390 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:41.279 are you thinking, dude, sneak it man, which is kind 391 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:43.880 of to your point. He probably has been sneaking at 392 00:19:43.880 --> 00:19:46.839 this whole like a long time. This isn't the He 393 00:19:46.920 --> 00:19:49.279 didn't just start drinking at Taylor's wedding. 394 00:19:50.920 --> 00:19:54.799 Let me read you. I found this article about Angelina 395 00:19:54.880 --> 00:19:56.559 Jolie's reaction. 396 00:19:57.359 --> 00:20:03.240 Oh okay, okay, this is on VT dot co. I 397 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:05.000 don't know if you've ever seen that. I get it 398 00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:07.799 on any It doesn't really matter. Angelina Jolie admitted she 399 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:11.480 wasn't taken aback upon hearing that X husband Brad Pitt 400 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:16.680 was no longer sober. She shocked fans this week with Oh. 401 00:20:16.759 --> 00:20:18.920