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<v Speaker 1>It's night Side with Dan Ray. I'm going easy Boston

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<v Speaker 1>New Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>For those of you who missed the last hour, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get back to that subject, I'm sure next week. And

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<v Speaker 2>I wished that I had heard from some of our

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<v Speaker 2>New York listeners. I think they're probably in a state

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<v Speaker 2>of shock. But I have another story that I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about, and that is a law which has

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<v Speaker 2>just gone into effect in the state of Florida, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a pretty darn good law and I'd

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<v Speaker 2>love to hear what you think about it. This story

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<v Speaker 2>was actually found today and recommended to me by Marita,

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<v Speaker 2>the producer of Nightside. And the law that we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about in Florida that has past, which is pretty innovative,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, and I also think makes a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of sense. It's Florida's new Halo law, which creates a

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<v Speaker 2>buffer zone around first responders. Okay, what does it mean? So,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, let's de find first responders. First responders

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<v Speaker 2>are police, fire EMTs, amongst others. Okay, the Halo law,

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<v Speaker 2>which went into effect on January first, Wednesday in Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>Halo is an acronym which stands for honoring and listening

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<v Speaker 2>to our officers honoring h and listening l to our

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<v Speaker 2>officers HALO. Under the law, if a first responder of

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<v Speaker 2>any type asks someone to stand back, and this could

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<v Speaker 2>be again firefighters, law enforcement, medical personnel, you must move

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five feet away. Now, twenty five feet is not

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<v Speaker 2>a huge difference. It's a very reasonable distance which would

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<v Speaker 2>allow fire fighters, police officers, or EMTs to deal with

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<v Speaker 2>what the whatever problem they're dealing with. Now. If you

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<v Speaker 2>do not, and you continue to interfere or harass these

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<v Speaker 2>first responders, you could face what they call a second

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<v Speaker 2>degree misdemeanor charge in Florida, which would potentially put you

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<v Speaker 2>in jail for sixty days or a five hundred dollars fine.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's it's a I think it's a very reasonable

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<v Speaker 2>effort to stop people from interfering with police officers, firefighters,

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<v Speaker 2>or EMTs. According to this article it's out of the

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<v Speaker 2>Tallahassee Democrat, which is a newspaper of the state capitol

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<v Speaker 2>in Florida. Support US say the twenty five foot buffer

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<v Speaker 2>zone increases safety, removes distractions, and protects first responders from threats, harassment,

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<v Speaker 2>and physical interference during stressful situations. Critics of course, they'll

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<v Speaker 2>always be critic say the law will be used to

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<v Speaker 2>prevent anyone from taking videos of law enforcement officers breaking

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<v Speaker 2>the law or brutalizing people. Now, let's assume that you

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<v Speaker 2>watching a police officer arrest someone. You can't take a

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<v Speaker 2>videotape twenty five feet away. I mean, how incompetent are you.

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<v Speaker 2>What this essentially is saying is that as the police

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<v Speaker 2>officer is effectuating an arrest, you don't have the right

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<v Speaker 2>to interfere with what he or she is doing. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the right to impede what he or she

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<v Speaker 2>is doing. You don't have the right to stick a

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<v Speaker 2>camera you're well, a camera or your smartphone in the

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<v Speaker 2>face of the officer while he or she is attempting

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<v Speaker 2>to do their job. Twenty five feet How long is

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five feet? Not very long when you think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's simply eight and a third yards. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a huge difference. They also have to be

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred feet away twenty five feet. Now. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>the aclused Florida chapter predictably said the bill was quote

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<v Speaker 2>all about preventing bystanders from being able to observe with

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<v Speaker 2>their own eyes an officers excessive use of force and

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<v Speaker 2>record those images with their cell phone or other device

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<v Speaker 2>for the public to see. So I guess the ACLU

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<v Speaker 2>says that people from a distance of twenty five feet

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<v Speaker 2>cannot see something, or from a distance of twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>feet can't record something if they want to record it. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>police officers can be recorded. Police officer can't tell you

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<v Speaker 2>don't record them because they're in a public place. But

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<v Speaker 2>this is I think genuinely a piece of legislation that

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<v Speaker 2>every state should consider. It will diffuse some of these situations.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, when a police officer is trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do what they have to do, which has questioned someone

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe in some cases arrest them and maybe arrest

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<v Speaker 2>the people with a use of force. If the person

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<v Speaker 2>who is not compliant, the police officer doesn't need someone

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<v Speaker 2>standing two feet away from them distracted. What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>They live them alone? Lord, he's not bothering anybody. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>simple as that. You know, we have lost in this

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<v Speaker 2>country all respect for all police officers because of the

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<v Speaker 2>excesses of a few. Now it's called in Florida, it's

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<v Speaker 2>SBE four makes it illegal. After you've been verbally worn

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<v Speaker 2>to approach a first responder or remain within twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>to me is pretty simple. You can't block or interfere

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<v Speaker 2>with their ability to perform the duty, you can't threaten

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<v Speaker 2>the first responders with physical harm, and you can't harass

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<v Speaker 2>the first responders. Makes all the sense in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Harassment in the laws to find as an action directed

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<v Speaker 2>and a first respondent that quote intentionally causes substantial emotional

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<v Speaker 2>distress in that first responder and serves no legitimate purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>Emotional distress, legitimate purpose and which parties may decide if

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<v Speaker 2>they apply were left undefined. However, now, as you would expect,

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<v Speaker 2>Representative Angela Nixon she's a Democrat from Jacksonville, introduced an

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<v Speaker 2>amendment to clarify that harass did not include asking a

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<v Speaker 2>first responder questions out of concern for the health, safety,

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<v Speaker 2>well being of the person that is being responded to.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's assume someone is on the street and the

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<v Speaker 2>EMT is attempting to perform CPR. I don't know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>give them mouth to mouth, maybe chest compressions. So what

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<v Speaker 2>this knucklehead Democratic legislator wants to do is you could

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<v Speaker 3>To the first Excuse me, excuse me. I notice you're

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<v Speaker 3>attempting to do mouth to mouth resuscitation. Is it really necessary?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this person really dying? What's going on here? Could

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<v Speaker 3>you explain? I'm just an interested bystander.

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<v Speaker 2>Moron, moron. The Another state representative from another Democratic representative,

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<v Speaker 2>Levaughn Bracy Davis, a Democrat, said would have to find

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<v Speaker 2>peaceful audio or video recording for photographing or eyewitness observing

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<v Speaker 2>of a first responder as a legitimate purpose. That failed

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<v Speaker 2>to pass. Also, the state rep. Who who Angela Nixon?

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<v Speaker 2>She's now my new favorite state rep in Florida, uh

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<v Speaker 2>said she. She proposed amendment to change the name of

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<v Speaker 2>the bill to the I don't want the world to

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<v Speaker 2>see the police kill an unarmed, innocent man like George

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<v Speaker 2>Floyd again, so I want to protect bad cops and

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<v Speaker 2>violate free speech. That did not pass. Surprisingly anyway, I

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<v Speaker 2>think this makes all the sense in the world. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, the people who recorded Derek Chauvin murdering George

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<v Speaker 2>Floyd did so at distance of about twenty five feet.

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<v Speaker 2>They were not prevented from recording the arrogant actions of

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<v Speaker 2>that Minneapolis police officer keeping his knee on the neck

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<v Speaker 2>of George Floyd for uppers of ten or eleven minutes

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<v Speaker 2>and as the jury found him guilty of murder. So

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<v Speaker 2>my question to you is whether you're a police officer

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<v Speaker 2>or not, let's have a conversation. Do you think Massachusetts Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I do think Massachusets would pass such a law because

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're too progressive. But I would love to

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<v Speaker 2>know do you think that's a reasonable off. Twenty five feet?

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta tell you, twenty five feet is about halfway

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<v Speaker 2>between a Little League pitchers mound. A Little League pictures

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<v Speaker 2>mount I think is fifty two feet. So if you

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<v Speaker 2>can think of going to a Little League baseball game

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<v Speaker 2>and think about you could stand halfway between home plate

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<v Speaker 2>and the pitchers mound, and that's all the law would require.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty five feet six one seven, four ten thirty six

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<v Speaker 2>law enforcement firefighters, firefighters respond to scenes where people throw

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<v Speaker 2>things at them. Believe it or not, that's happened a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>The EMTs respond to situations where people try to interfere

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<v Speaker 2>with them. Police officers all the time are getting harassed

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<v Speaker 2>when they're trying to do. Look, if police officers are

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<v Speaker 2>making a bad arrest, there are civil actions people can

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<v Speaker 2>take against police officers.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, I don't know that any police

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<v Speaker 2>officer in his right mind, unless he wants to end

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<v Speaker 2>up in jail for the rest of us, like like

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<v Speaker 2>Jarff Chauvin or the Minneapolis police officer has found himself,

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<v Speaker 2>any officer in his right mind is not going to

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<v Speaker 2>do the sort of things that some police officers have done.

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<v Speaker 2>And I say you need more police training. I think

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<v Speaker 2>you need to probably do more psychological work with the

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<v Speaker 2>police department applicants to make sure that you're getting police

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<v Speaker 2>officers who are going to treat all of us, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's you or me, respectfully when we're pulled over at night. Now, again,

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<v Speaker 2>we also have a responsibility to drive with the police

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<v Speaker 2>officer in a rational way. Where the police officer said,

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<v Speaker 2>would you police roll down your window, they can kind

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<v Speaker 2>of roll down your window. I always advise friends of mine,

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<v Speaker 2>the dome light on so the police officer can see you,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the way make it easier on the police officer.

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<v Speaker 2>Here are the number six months, seven two five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty, six months, seven nine, three, one, ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>The Florida halo law makes sense to me? Does it

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<v Speaker 2>make sense to you? And if you're somebody who really

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<v Speaker 2>disagrees with it, tell me why, tell me why this is?

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<v Speaker 2>This is I think this is not twenty twenty anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>It's twenty twenty five. And I think that a piece

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<v Speaker 2>of legislation like this would not have passed in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty in Florida or in any state. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>it could pass. I'd like to think Massachusetts, but realistically

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. Coming back on Night's side, let's have at

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<v Speaker 2>it back after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I do want to talk about this issue,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm I we'll be disappointed if more people aren't

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<v Speaker 2>interested in talking about this issue. At eleven o'clock, we

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<v Speaker 2>will change topics and we're going to talk about did

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<v Speaker 2>you make a New year? New Year's resolution? Rob Brooks

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<v Speaker 2>has the best New Year's resolution he makes. He makes

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<v Speaker 2>the resolution every year not to make a New Year's resolution.

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<v Speaker 2>But for those of you who actually made a resolution

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<v Speaker 2>three nights ago, well, maybe two nights ago, now that

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<v Speaker 2>you think about now that I think about it gonna

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean, I think we're probably what seventy hours

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<v Speaker 2>into the new year at this point. Have you kept

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<v Speaker 2>your New Year's resolution? We'll talk about that at eleven

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<v Speaker 2>at the twenty hour, But I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>this halo law in Florida. I think it will do

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to take down the temperature when people see

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<v Speaker 2>a police officer, oh, for that matter, a firefighter, an

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<v Speaker 2>EMT doing what they're supposed to do. And again, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that that when you're in a situation where all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden there's police activity, it's normal for people

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<v Speaker 2>to to rubber neck. You always know when there's a

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<v Speaker 2>over the side of the road, not even necessarily write

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<v Speaker 2>someone in a ticket, but to help them, everybody slows down.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever noticed that, no matter what, you look

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<v Speaker 2>in the distance and you see a blue light, and

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<v Speaker 2>the police car could be simply there helping somebody, just

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<v Speaker 2>the car. Everybody has to slow down. It's just normal

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<v Speaker 2>human nature to be intrigued and interested what's going on,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on? But then you have situations when police

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<v Speaker 2>TV many times people try to almost interfere with that arrest. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>that these materials were available in New Orleans. We mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>that the other night. So I just want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>it bother you? Do supported if this law was proposed

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<v Speaker 2>know where the American Civil Liberties union is gonna come down.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna say, oh no, no, oh no. This is

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<v Speaker 2>only intended as they have in Florida. So, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>does it make you if a law like this pass,

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<v Speaker 2>a dangerous job, and it becomes most dangerous when they're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to effectuate an arrest. For firefighters, it becomes it

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<v Speaker 2>becomes a dangerous job. Every fire they respond to. They

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<v Speaker 2>have no idea what is inside the building that's burning,

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on? Leave the firefighters alone, Leave the EMT alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone flops on the ground and the EMT comes by.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to go over what's going on. That

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<v Speaker 2>the EMT. The EMP has to do their job. They

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<v Speaker 2>have to focus intently on what they're doing in order

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<v Speaker 2>to try to save someone's life. That's their purpose. They're

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<v Speaker 2>tell you at six o'clock or I'll tell you at

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<v Speaker 2>eleven o'clock. Simple as that. So a halo law which

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<v Speaker 2>basically gives police officer, firefighter or an EMT a buffer zone.

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<v Speaker 2>We have buffer zones now at abortion sites where protesters

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<v Speaker 2>still protest, but they can't protest in someone's face. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's the same principle when you think about it, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the exact same principle. The person who's interested in what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on, they can videotape, but from twenty five feet away,

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<v Speaker 2>the protest with the abortion clinic can protest, but they

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<v Speaker 2>can't impede someone who's going, however strongly they may feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to Matt in Southbridge. Matt, thanks for getting

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<v Speaker 2>that's now Laura in Florida, good idea about it here?

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<v Speaker 5>In your opinion, I think it's a great idea. I

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<v Speaker 5>think it will help lower stress levels at scenes where

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<v Speaker 5>involving first responders, where things can get a little hectic,

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<v Speaker 2>More than hectic, they get more than hectic sometime. Are

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<v Speaker 2>you involved in it, either as a police officer, firefighter,

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<v Speaker 2>or EMT or do you have someone in your family?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yes, I'm a police officer.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you very much. What has been your experience.

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<v Speaker 2>I have tried to report this as as honestly as

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<v Speaker 2>I can. I've read from the Jacksonville newspaper about this law.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you found that when you're out trying to an

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<v Speaker 2>effect situa and arrest people in any way, shape or form,

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<v Speaker 2>are at least at a minimum minimum distracting. Have you

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, and, like you alluded to earlier, since twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 5>it has become more prevalent. And what I can say is,

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<v Speaker 5>I've been a police officer approximately thirty years and the

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<v Speaker 5>last thing a police officer in my department, in most departments,

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<v Speaker 5>talking to other officers want to do is work inside

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<v Speaker 5>the building. So you would have all the junior officers

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<v Speaker 5>would be stuck working in the service division or the

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<v Speaker 5>cell room. Now that is the most highly coveted position,

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<v Speaker 5>which I think says a lot where the officers no

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<v Speaker 5>longer want to be on the street, they want to

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<v Speaker 2>So you've worked for thirty years, have you noticed over

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<v Speaker 2>the course of your career, is this something that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of goes back and forth like a pendulum. My sense

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<v Speaker 2>is that after the horrific incident involving you know, George Floyd,

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<v Speaker 2>what that police officer did was was ah indefensible in

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<v Speaker 2>So obviously then people took that and everybody who was

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<v Speaker 2>all of that that controversy. My sense is that the

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<v Speaker 5>I think it is maybe not so much in Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 5>but not as quickly as other parts of the country. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>but I think and you talked about training earlier, which

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<v Speaker 5>I think is very important, and what you what you

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<v Speaker 5>feel to mention though with training, with additional training comes

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<v Speaker 5>additional funds which we are not are not getting for

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<v Speaker 5>the training, not for the officer, for the training, and

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<v Speaker 5>what we're seeing in Massachusetts. Since COVID was the MPTC

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<v Speaker 5>that runs all our trainings state wide, it went to

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<v Speaker 5>an online training platform where it's a passive learning situation

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<v Speaker 5>where I literally will have to sit through eighteen hours

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<v Speaker 5>of videos this training session. And if you do any

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<v Speaker 5>studying on learning, passive learning is one of the worst

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<v Speaker 5>ways to learn or to teach. Rather, and you're an attorney, right, yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 5>Now you know case law and a constitutional law is

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<v Speaker 5>forever changing. Now think about it. I'm a new police officer.

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<v Speaker 5>a six hour video on constitutional law and I have questions,

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<v Speaker 5>at a computer screen. Yeah, so I agree with this, Laar.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it would help you. I think it would

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<v Speaker 5>even help It would help the public out as well.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, unfortunate events probably won't happen because you

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<v Speaker 5>have that buffer of twenty five feet and you can

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<v Speaker 5>still fail. From twenty five feet, you'll actually get a

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<v Speaker 5>or if you want to coach, you could.

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<v Speaker 2>Get absolutely no police officer wants someone with a camera

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<v Speaker 2>in they're face two feet away. Why are you doing this?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you doing this for? I mean, first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>I was distracting, and at that moment in time, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're really dealing with a suspect who's dangerous, that guy

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<v Speaker 2>might grab your gun while you're distracted. I mean, your

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<v Speaker 2>focus needs to be on the person you're you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to to arrest. It's as simple as that. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>when you talk about training working in radio and television,

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<v Speaker 2>the public sector. Uh, there's a whole industry out there

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<v Speaker 2>of companies that have that have taken advantage, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>of societal situations, so that everybody, I think every employee

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<v Speaker 2>know that that it just doesn't it You listen to

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<v Speaker 2>it because you have to. Okay, you know what the

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<v Speaker 2>point is. It takes them six hours to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>something that they could that they could instruct you on

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<v Speaker 2>with for six minutes. But if they produced six minute videotapes,

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<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't be able to charge the exorbited prices. This

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<v Speaker 2>it's a cottage industry, is what it is. In my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt that the.

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<v Speaker 5>But I've noticed the training with the younger officers it's

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<v Speaker 5>not working as well as when we had it in person,

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<v Speaker 5>where you could ask questions and get in the professor

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<v Speaker 5>or the instructors to bounce them back.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course. Yeah. And many people are going to say, well, gee,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand that. I mean, it isn't a question

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<v Speaker 2>of I disagree with it, uh and have a debate

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<v Speaker 2>with the person, but I don't understand what is meant

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<v Speaker 2>by that. That's that's the part of education.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Or you know, you're a police officer and you you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you read some case Laura, and you ask a question

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<v Speaker 5>of oh, I went on a call last week, but

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<v Speaker 5>you don't have that ability anymore to ask questions and

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. Look, thank you for your for

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<v Speaker 2>your career, thank you for your service, and stay safe

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<v Speaker 2>out there. And again, you sound like the sort of

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<v Speaker 2>police officer that that we should have. Look in Boston there,

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<v Speaker 2>they're now dying to recruit police officers they don't have.

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<v Speaker 2>They're down like four hundred police officers in the city

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<v Speaker 2>of Boston, down about forty.

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<v Speaker 5>We're down about ten percent. No, it's it's unfortunate and

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<v Speaker 5>hopefully where else.

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<v Speaker 2>In what other city of police officers the world? The

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<v Speaker 2>the roster is down New Orleans. I think I read

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<v Speaker 2>something today. They're down like seven hundred officers.

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<v Speaker 5>No, it's it's nationwide. There is a recruitment and retention

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<v Speaker 5>crisis that no one's talking about. Yeah to the points. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to see it in my my location. We're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna I think we'll start seeing forced overtime in the

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<v Speaker 5>next year or so, which is unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and which which is forced overtime means you're forced

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<v Speaker 2>to work in a high stress job where you're making

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<v Speaker 2>decisions on you know, do I draw my weapon or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and you should not. Forced overtime is not consistent with

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<v Speaker 2>good police work in my opinion, it absolutely I agree.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree, Dan, I appreciate you're taking the time and

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<v Speaker 5>have a happy New Year.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy New Year to you and say say, okay, thanks, Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate you. All Right, Well you heard what Matt had

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<v Speaker 2>to say. I would love to hear what you have

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<v Speaker 2>to say. I think it's a fascinating topic. But I

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<v Speaker 2>may be barking up the wrong tree, and if I am,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll change topics. But I would like to talk about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Should police officers, firefighters, and EMTs have the right to

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<v Speaker 2>form interfering with them conducting their what they do to

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<v Speaker 2>stay back twenty five feet. That's a great piece of

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<v Speaker 2>legislation in my mind, despite what the American cent for

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<v Speaker 2>Liberties Union says, if you disagree, bring it on. If

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<v Speaker 2>you agree, you could bring it on as well. Six

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<v Speaker 1>It's night Side with Ray Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. Al. Let's get back to the call.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to go to Eric in Natick next, Eric,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome next to on Nightside. How are you serving time?

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<v Speaker 7>I am out there here.

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<v Speaker 2>Eric, got to turn that radio. Don go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sorry, Happy New Year, Happy.

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<v Speaker 2>New Year to you, Eric. Thanks you gotta you guys

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<v Speaker 2>got to turn that radio down because we have a delay.

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<v Speaker 2>As I'm sure you know. What's your thought about this

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<v Speaker 7>I love it. I'm actually I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 7>too harsh, but it's actually sickening that a lot like

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<v Speaker 7>this even needs to exist because you know, everyone does

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<v Speaker 7>their job and you can't stop people from doing their job.

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<v Speaker 7>So even while you're doing the radio, imagine if someone

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<v Speaker 7>is two feet away from you, like staring at you

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<v Speaker 7>or distracting you while you're trying to talk to your audience.

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<v Speaker 7>Like and I think, I think, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Just think that's a great point.

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<v Speaker 7>Yep, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that I think that's a great point. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>can you imagine if uh if if when people are

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<v Speaker 2>out trying to you know, work as a roof or

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<v Speaker 2>work as a plumber. Uh, you know, get up on

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<v Speaker 2>the roof there, like it was this guy putting the

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<v Speaker 2>nails in right. Of course you it just makes absolute

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<v Speaker 2>great common sense, Eric, but we we can't in this society.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember after the George Flay Floyd murder, it was every

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<v Speaker 2>police officer was looked at with suspicion. It didn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>that they were a good, decent police officer who was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to go out and do the right thing by

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<v Speaker 2>his community. Because he was because he had a badge

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<v Speaker 2>and he was a police officer, he was looked at derisively.

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<v Speaker 2>And it still happens in the eyes of some people.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, and I think there's a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 7>attribute to that, like like news media coverage of it,

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<v Speaker 7>like negative stories about other instances where I mean you're

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<v Speaker 7>talking about small fractions. I mean this, for every one

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<v Speaker 7>bad interaction where a cop went overboard, there's at least

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<v Speaker 7>one hundred good interactions where cops went above and beyond

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<v Speaker 7>and did what they were supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't agree with you more. Now, do you think the.

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<v Speaker 7>Media small stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? But I look, the George Floyd circumstance was an

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<v Speaker 2>abomination that was, in my opinion, out now cold blooded murder.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm glad that there were people there when I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you remember the the demeanor of the police,

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<v Speaker 2>the police officer, uh and I don't even want to

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<v Speaker 2>call him a police officer. Derek Chauvin from Minneapolis that

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<v Speaker 2>after he got up and took his knee off the

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<v Speaker 2>neck of George Floyd, he struted around like a peacock,

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<v Speaker 2>like somehow he had just done something heroic, when what

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<v Speaker 2>he had done was was the cowardice. You know, basically,

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<v Speaker 2>while others kept him Floyd from your breathing, getting up,

462
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<v Speaker 2>he basically killed the guy. But but the media didn't

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<v Speaker 2>put it in any context. They didn't say, look, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a guy who who went way beyond what he

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<v Speaker 2>ever should have done and put him in jail. That

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<v Speaker 2>I talked about that from the first night. Put him

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<v Speaker 2>in jail. Uh, he's he's he's not a police officer,

468
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<v Speaker 2>he's a criminal. Put it in some context. But he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't represent the most police officers, just just just as

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<v Speaker 2>if as the pedophile priests didn't represent. I have friends

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<v Speaker 2>of mine who are Catholic priests, good Catholic priests, who

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<v Speaker 2>they told me they no longer would when they would

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<v Speaker 2>go up to a public restaurant, they would never wear

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<v Speaker 2>their collar because people would look would look at them like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you must be like those other pedophile priests. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>not fair.

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<v Speaker 7>I know, it's definitely not fair. And the old expression

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<v Speaker 7>one bad apple ruins the entire bunch. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 7>why expressions like that exist, because you know, like you said, priests,

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<v Speaker 7>just because there's a segment of them that were pedophiles,

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<v Speaker 7>it doesn't mean the entire priesthood are pedophiles. It just

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<v Speaker 7>means that there was a small section. And yes, it's

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<v Speaker 7>unfortunate that it was hidden for so long, and there's

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<v Speaker 7>more and more cases that came out about it, But

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<v Speaker 7>that doesn't the gate everyone who is our good priest

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<v Speaker 7>and who do do their job and do believe and

487
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<v Speaker 7>follow the right path. And yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, the thing that's interesting is that when we hear

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<v Speaker 2>a horrific story about I don't know, you know, Diddy

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<v Speaker 2>or or some entertainer who's accused of, you know, doing

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<v Speaker 2>inappropriate things, we don't project that on all entertainers. If

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<v Speaker 2>we hear about some you know, famous athlete who does

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<v Speaker 2>something really stupid Pete Rose, for example, we don't assume

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<v Speaker 2>that all athletes were gambling on the sport in which

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<v Speaker 2>they participated. We look at those cases on very much

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<v Speaker 2>of an individual basis. But when it comes to a

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<v Speaker 2>bad police officer comes to a bad priest, maybe because

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<v Speaker 2>they are people who are perceived as in positions of authority.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. We don't field in terms. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>field in terms of teachers. You know, you'll have some

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<v Speaker 2>high school teacher who hits on a fourteen year old girl. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't assume every high school teacher is doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>But with the police, the police were given a bum

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<v Speaker 2>rap because of Derek chovin uh. And and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that this law would go a long way to to

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<v Speaker 2>maybe restoring some faith in our police life.

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<v Speaker 7>I hope so too. And like I said, it's very

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<v Speaker 7>surprising that there even needs to be a law. You

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<v Speaker 7>said it yourself. It's common sense, like let people do

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<v Speaker 7>what they're supposed to be doing. And as far as

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<v Speaker 7>I'm just gonna say one more thing, as far as

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<v Speaker 7>like when you get pulled over, you're absolutely right. The

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<v Speaker 7>smartest thing as a pedestrian you can do or a

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<v Speaker 7>citizen is put your hands on the wheel whatever. As

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<v Speaker 7>soon as the police officer exits their vehicle, anything that

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<v Speaker 7>you can do to keep them at ease because they

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<v Speaker 7>are heightened, the adrenaline kicks in. Uh, they don't know

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<v Speaker 7>the person has a weapon, if they're reaching for something,

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<v Speaker 7>they have no idea. They don't know you. They just

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<v Speaker 7>pulled you over. They may they may have ran your plate,

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<v Speaker 7>but they don't know your story. So you do anything

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<v Speaker 7>in your power to alleviate any concern they might have.

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<v Speaker 7>And the the interaction between the two of you, or

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<v Speaker 7>between the citizen and the police officer, guaranteed nine times

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<v Speaker 7>out of ten, is going to go smoothly, and maybe

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<v Speaker 7>if you were speeding and how you if you were

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<v Speaker 7>respectful and you know, honest and you know, just care

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<v Speaker 7>free and just you know, let the make the officer

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<v Speaker 7>be at ease, maybe they'll say, you know what, make

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<v Speaker 7>sure you're just slow down next.

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<v Speaker 2>Time, exactly exactly you you. Sometimes people talk themselves into

532
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<v Speaker 2>tickets when they can talk themselves out of tickets and

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<v Speaker 2>just get a warning if they if they treat the

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<v Speaker 2>officer respectfully. Because I got to tell you from my

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<v Speaker 2>experience officers that I know there's a lot of really

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<v Speaker 2>dumb people. Would you pull me over? What do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>We are you doing? What are you doing? And you

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<v Speaker 2>know immediately that kind of sets the tone for the conversation. Eric,

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<v Speaker 2>I loved you call. Please keep calling the show. Thank you, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you.

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<v Speaker 7>Happy to hear to you and your family.

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<v Speaker 2>Right back at you, Eric, Happy New Year to you

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<v Speaker 2>as well. We have a lot of listeners in Natick,

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<v Speaker 2>that's for sure one of my favorite communities. Take a

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<v Speaker 2>quick break one line at six one seven, two four

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. Also, if you want to try to get

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<v Speaker 2>through six one seven nine three one ten thirty, we

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<v Speaker 2>will change topics at eleven o'clock, we go to the

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<v Speaker 2>twentieth hour, though it's only for me the twelve hour

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<v Speaker 2>this week, gonna want to know about your New Year's

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<v Speaker 2>resolutions and they still intact, probably some of them have

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<v Speaker 2>already been broken. We'll be back on night Side more

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<v Speaker 2>calls right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Sight Studios on' WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, you know, last home, we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>New York City's congestion pricing. Well, there was a federal

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<v Speaker 2>it was an effort by the state of New Jersey

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<v Speaker 2>to stop it, saying that this was going to have

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<v Speaker 2>an impact on New Jersey roads because people would use

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<v Speaker 2>the Jersey bridges to avoid it. And a federal judge

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<v Speaker 2>has cleared the way for the Sunday launch of congesting

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<v Speaker 2>congestion pricing in New York City. Good luck, New York City.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's keep going here. I'm gonna go next. Who's up next? Down?

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<v Speaker 2>Greg is in Boston. Hey, Greg, welcome. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the Florida law, the so called Halo law, which creates

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<v Speaker 2>a twenty five foot buffer zone for police officers, responding

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<v Speaker 2>police officers, firefighters, and EMTs. Your thoughts, Greg? Hello, Hello Greg,

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<v Speaker 2>your thoughts? What's your thought on this?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, this is Hubert, I'm I'm sorry. This is Frank.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Frank. Okay, so let's get that squared away.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not Greg, this is Frank. Yeah, okay, Well, Frank,

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<v Speaker 2>go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 8>I think it's gonna be a very troublesome law because

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<v Speaker 8>now you're gonna tell the person in the goal twenty

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<v Speaker 8>five feet, So you got to figure out the twenty

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<v Speaker 8>five feet and how many other people you're gonna tell

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<v Speaker 8>go twenty five feet? So now you may end up

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<v Speaker 8>having the rest two three, four people beside the suspect something.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if if they don't, if they don't comply with

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<v Speaker 2>let me ask you this, Frank. Let's assume you're driving

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<v Speaker 2>down the street and a police officer steps in front

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<v Speaker 2>of your car and says you got to stop, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't know why you're being told to stop.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do?

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<v Speaker 8>I stopped?

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<v Speaker 2>You bet you?

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<v Speaker 8>So, if people there's this notion that people are are

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<v Speaker 8>putting police officers down because of certain instances is overblown.

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<v Speaker 8>We still respect the police. People still respect the police,

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<v Speaker 8>they still obey the law, and this kind of stuff

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<v Speaker 8>is troublesome, and it's also indicative of what's happening in

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<v Speaker 8>Florida and if people of Florida gonna have to get off,

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<v Speaker 8>but they did. They they're abandoned books. They're saying if

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<v Speaker 8>they have elections or or they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Not banning books in Florida. I don't know what what

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<v Speaker 2>what stations you're watching, they're not banning books in Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>What books? What books have been banned in Florida, Frank.

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<v Speaker 8>He's already they've already had laws that said you can't

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<v Speaker 8>have this book, you can't have that book. And also

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<v Speaker 8>they named.

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<v Speaker 2>Me one of the books that are Frank doing you

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<v Speaker 2>a favor? Okay, Frank, respectfully, could you name me one

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<v Speaker 2>of the books that were banned in Florida.

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<v Speaker 8>I can't tell you which ones, but I can say

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<v Speaker 8>they have been banned books.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're you're you're telling me. Here's what. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>explain to you what happened in Florida if I could,

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<v Speaker 2>because I looked into this. They have taken some books

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<v Speaker 2>that were in portions of the public library which were

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<v Speaker 2>called you know, children's sections, and they have moved those

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<v Speaker 2>books into you know, teen sections or adult sections. There

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<v Speaker 2>were certain books that get into certain topics that people

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<v Speaker 2>in the state of Florida, and you know, libraries and

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<v Speaker 2>also representatives felt that kids should not be exposed to

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<v Speaker 2>those type of books at that age. There have been

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<v Speaker 2>no books that there's no book that has been banned

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<v Speaker 2>in Florida. Frank, it's it's it's just a misnomer. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it's incorrect.

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<v Speaker 8>Florida and Florida just had a ballot question that they

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<v Speaker 8>said couldn't pass on less sixty percent the people voted

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<v Speaker 8>for it, when in any normal situation, if you were

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<v Speaker 8>over fifty percent, the ballot or the election was won

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<v Speaker 8>or lost. Now that they're even restricted.

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<v Speaker 2>On so, let me ask you this. I'm unfamiliar with that.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the What was the ballot question, Frank? What

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<v Speaker 2>was the ballot question?

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<v Speaker 8>They want? They want the constitutionalized abortion and you had

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<v Speaker 8>to have at least six days. I made it so

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<v Speaker 8>that you had to have sixty percent, and since it

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<v Speaker 8>only came out to like fifty five percent, the measure failed.

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<v Speaker 2>You might you might be correct on that. Frank, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not familiar with it, but I will grant you you

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<v Speaker 2>might be correct on that. It could be within the floridaction.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be within the Florida State Constitution that in

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<v Speaker 2>order to amend the constitution you have to get over

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<v Speaker 2>a certain percentage, because sometimes it's harder to amend the

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<v Speaker 2>constitution than just by a majority vote. Frank, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>We've covered I got three more folks before. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>telling you that. I'm telling you you might be correct

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<v Speaker 2>on that. But for example, do you know how how

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<v Speaker 2>many states it takes. Frank just hung up. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>hang up on him. It takes three quarters of the

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<v Speaker 2>states to amend the US Constitution. Okay, that's what the

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<v Speaker 2>US Constitution says. Let's go next to Glenn and Brighton. Glenn,

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<v Speaker 2>get me back on track. Please go ahead, and Glynn.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I love this topic. I wish I knew Harvard

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<v Speaker 4>Hilbergrace you wanted number one and number two. I wish

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<v Speaker 4>it could extend it in the next do because it's

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<v Speaker 4>a very good, very good topic. Because I agree with

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<v Speaker 4>the tone into theear part. I don't agree with the

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<v Speaker 4>you know, buff I don't like any kind of buffer

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<v Speaker 4>zone twenty five. They do it with tobacco abortion. I

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<v Speaker 4>remember the Supreme Court struck down the Bufferson or on

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<v Speaker 4>abortion the you know, I think the idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that, well, the idea is that if someone's going

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<v Speaker 2>into receive a medical procedure, whether you agree with it

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<v Speaker 2>or not, whether I agree with it or not, you

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<v Speaker 2>can sit there and have a sign. You can protest,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can't be in someone's face. That's all they're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you all of a scientist.

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<v Speaker 4>The part I find arbitrarian capricious is I mean, do

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<v Speaker 4>people carry tape measures? Now, no, you're half a foot

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<v Speaker 4>two clothes. I mean you're forty four. I mean, Hannah, they.

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<v Speaker 2>Put they they're able to put up barricades, okay, and

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<v Speaker 2>basically that you can't cross over the barricade. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it's like when when the President of the United States

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<v Speaker 2>comes and speaks at a public event, they have you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they have police. Look, when there's a crime scene, they

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<v Speaker 2>put up the yellow tape. You know that, Glenn, And

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<v Speaker 2>you can't say, oh, I'm going to go Crocker, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to investigate that crime scene. So no, I think

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<v Speaker 2>the same piece of legislation that has some merit. I

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<v Speaker 2>wish Harvey called in and we'll get Harvey on this

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<v Speaker 2>as a matter of fact, some night. How's that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because he's the first person I thought of when

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<v Speaker 4>you brought this up, because I remember the buffers oone

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<v Speaker 4>thing on the ambush that was McClellan versus Cokeley. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't remember know mccollan's first name. It was Martha Coakley.

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<v Speaker 4>And I thought the Supreme Court struck a down ninety zero.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I do not. I believe so they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>the right to protest. But you don't have the right

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<v Speaker 2>to sit on the stairs and impede people's walking in.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have a right using and be shouting in

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<v Speaker 2>their ear from two feet away as as they're walking

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<v Speaker 2>in the door. That's home. I mean, if you're going

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<v Speaker 2>in to have your appendix taken out, and and I did,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think, no, you know, Glenn, you should not.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't prevent you physically. No, Glenn, you can't take

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<v Speaker 2>your appendix out. Come on.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it could be fine tuned a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm not saying it's a bad look.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty five feet is not is not a huge distance.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you can videotape police officers from twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>feet pretty easily. Okay, Yeah, I mean, if they said

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to stand back one thousand feet five hundred feet,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be arbitrary and capricious. But I think twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five feet is a reasonable distance in my opinion. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it'll I think it will with stand constitutional review.

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<v Speaker 2>I really do.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me get one.

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<v Speaker 2>More India before the break. Okay, huh, I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>one more in before the break.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks buddy, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna give you. We always give the right in the

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<v Speaker 2>in the final hour of the week, and even though

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<v Speaker 2>it's really a hybrid twentieth hour. Absolutely, Thanks Glenn, talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you later.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you too.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Thank you much. Jim and Roxford. Jim, you're

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<v Speaker 2>next on Nightside. Gotta get more.

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<v Speaker 6>That point of view. They're not doing it on this

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<v Speaker 6>point of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you talking to me or you're having a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>of your own? Jim, you're in the air.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh okay, so I didn't know. Okay, did That'll be

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<v Speaker 6>real quick. I know it's time to go. Okay. I

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<v Speaker 6>heard you guys comps story, and I know you gots

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<v Speaker 6>talking about mister Floyd. Guess what, reader, why Tom's got

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<v Speaker 6>a bad reputation because they act bad no matter what

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<v Speaker 6>if you look at what's beyond the tailor. They broke

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<v Speaker 6>into her apartment and she's innocent and it shot her.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh huh yeah, Okay, I got a lot of incidents. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>some reads they seem to all be with minority.

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<v Speaker 2>What so, Jim, let me ask you this. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>because we're a little bit tight on time. What percentage

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<v Speaker 2>of cops do you think are Derek Chauvin type cops?

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<v Speaker 2>What percentage?

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<v Speaker 6>I can tell you fifty percent?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I think you're dreaming about that. There's no way

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<v Speaker 2>you can prove that, but I think the statistic that

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<v Speaker 2>you u if it was fifty percent, you'd have many

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<v Speaker 2>more George fully cases.

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<v Speaker 6>And many Why is every case you guys at the

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<v Speaker 6>media include wonder one. It's always a minority, is never

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<v Speaker 6>any other. It's always minorities getting hit. And guess who

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<v Speaker 6>are hurting us? It is the European, Caucasians or white

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<v Speaker 6>or snowflakes.

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<v Speaker 1>What.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this, Jim, what what percentage of

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<v Speaker 2>Boston you live in Roxbury? What percentage of Boston police

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<v Speaker 2>officers are minority in your opinion?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, that's easy, that is totally forty. The rest is

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<v Speaker 6>everything else well, so you.

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<v Speaker 2>Have forty percent in your opinion already. Okay, yes, what

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<v Speaker 2>percentage of the American population happens to be minority? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you know?

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<v Speaker 6>I think No, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about about it's about ten percent black, about ten

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<v Speaker 2>percent black, about twelve percent Hispanic, and maybe three percent Asian.

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<v Speaker 6>So okay, it is minorities getting shot, stabbed, Rundo was

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<v Speaker 6>sprayed and do ooh, I'm afraid because we moved. But

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<v Speaker 6>as the Caucasian cops, nothing happens too.

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<v Speaker 2>Because yeah, I think I think you're looking at through

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty biased lens. But I'm glad you called, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad I wish you called earlier because we could

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<v Speaker 2>talk longer. But keep calling the show. We'll have conversations.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Okay, bye bye.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a happy New Year to those of you in

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<v Speaker 2>the line. I apologize, sure, wish you called earlier. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to go to New Year's Resolutions right after the

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<v Speaker 2>break one night side