WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:02.799 I'm doing great. Thank you for coming on Private Talk. 2 00:00:02.879 --> 00:00:05.639 A you know, you didn't really know what this was, 3 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:07.919 so I appreciate you just kind of diving in with 4 00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:10.599 me and we're gonna get private, but you know, not 5 00:00:10.679 --> 00:00:13.039 too private, but just the right enough. 6 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:15.400 Okay, I see the notes on the floor, So you 7 00:00:15.519 --> 00:00:15.679 like that. 8 00:00:15.759 --> 00:00:18.679 You're cheating, You're you're one of those in class. You're cheating. 9 00:00:18.760 --> 00:00:20.399 I'm like, you know some shit about me? 10 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:21.480 Why are you scared? 11 00:00:21.519 --> 00:00:21.679 Though? 12 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:22.920 We just want the truth here. 13 00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:26.079 Well, just don't google me because that's what. 14 00:00:26.039 --> 00:00:28.320 We want here at Private Talk. We want the truth 15 00:00:28.359 --> 00:00:31.519 from you too. Short Private Talk listeners, I hope you're 16 00:00:31.559 --> 00:00:34.359 gonna like subscribe comment to this episode. You're gonna love it. 17 00:00:34.719 --> 00:00:36.640 I know I haven't even started yet, and I have 18 00:00:36.799 --> 00:00:38.719 so many things because you know, you saw those notes, 19 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:39.600 right mm hmm. 20 00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:44.520 I'm just telling you that my Google is wrong. Wikipedia lies. 21 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:46.719 I don't even go off of a week, little Peter. 22 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:47.799 That's like, that's cheap. 23 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:49.840 That's there's a lot of rumors in LA about me. 24 00:00:50.119 --> 00:00:51.880 There's a lot older here. It's time to like set 25 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:55.880 them straight. So let Private Talk know what you have 26 00:00:56.039 --> 00:00:59.240 going on right now. You're all over the place. 27 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:02.200 I'm a music in and out. I'm all about the music. 28 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:05.640 So all these years, I never lost my love for 29 00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:12.200 music that making music, working with famous artists, up and 30 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:16.879 coming artists, talented musicians, producers. I just I'm really into it. 31 00:01:16.959 --> 00:01:20.359 So all my life, all my adult life, I've owned 32 00:01:20.359 --> 00:01:24.640 a studio at least one studio, two studios. Right now 33 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:28.480 I have a facility with four studios, and I'm pretty 34 00:01:28.519 --> 00:01:31.959 much just focused on putting out music with up and 35 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:34.239 coming artists and you know, just doing a lot of 36 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:36.040 mix and mingling with the artists, and I do a 37 00:01:36.040 --> 00:01:38.400 lot of shows and stuff. It's it's music is my life. 38 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:42.359 I have a philosophy that's like just to the wheels 39 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:44.400 fall off. Just if it's getting money, let's get it. 40 00:01:44.560 --> 00:01:46.799 Yeah. I like that motto. I feel like maybe I've 41 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:48.799 taken it on my own ways too, because I feel 42 00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:51.040 like mine was go big or go home. But definitely, 43 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:53.280 you know, I'm never going home because I always want 44 00:01:53.319 --> 00:01:55.920 someone to do so you keep progressing. And that's why 45 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:57.599 with me, this is why I wanted to start doing 46 00:01:57.599 --> 00:01:59.359 private Talk because it was the first place, when a 47 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:02.680 platform that I kindly got my voice to get to 48 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:04.480 talk to Gus that, you know, I think that my 49 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:05.480 listeners would like to do. 50 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:07.359 And you got a sexy as voice. 51 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:10.240 I had a sexy ass voice, So you should subscribe 52 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:12.039 and like to our channel too, since just because my 53 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:14.599 voice said in tunes, you know, it trances you in 54 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:16.120 to listen to what we're going to talk about. 55 00:02:16.599 --> 00:02:17.680 I'm in, you're in. 56 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:20.120 I like that. So what does legend mean to you? 57 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:25.719 Well, legend is I mean, that's something that's like, it 58 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:30.479 lives forever and whatever, whether it's a story or a 59 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:34.400 person and it's a legend and it's legendary. It just 60 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:38.159 it's bigger than the actual event or the actual person. 61 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:40.360 It's something that means a lot to a lot of people. 62 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:43.719 That's why they carry it forward. Now I'm dealing with 63 00:02:43.759 --> 00:02:46.599 this thing where they keep saying he's living legend, living legend. Well, 64 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:49.000 that's cool while you're walking around to people saying that, 65 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:52.599 but just standing to test the time while you're alive 66 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:55.000 is one thing. To be a living legend. They love 67 00:02:55.039 --> 00:02:58.520 me while I'm here, But for it to continue forever, 68 00:02:58.960 --> 00:03:01.759 that's a different story. To be a legend is yet 69 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:01.960 to be. 70 00:03:02.199 --> 00:03:04.120 Did you think that's like a legacy thing? I feel 71 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:07.039 like that's like the I think it's a history thing. 72 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:09.759 I just think that, you know, history is two words, 73 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:12.800 his story, So you know, you're always gonna get somebody's 74 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:16.240 version of what they thought happened. And if you could 75 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:20.039 be in that conversation two hundred years from you know 76 00:03:20.039 --> 00:03:22.639 what I'm saying, Like, there's nothing to do with you, 77 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:26.120 your grandkids, your great grand kid. I mean, your name 78 00:03:26.639 --> 00:03:28.960 will outlive so many names and then just talk about you. 79 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:35.000 I mean, however long it may be, that's just that's legendary, legendary. 80 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:36.120 You did some shit. 81 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:39.000 I like that. I like it and I love it. 82 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:41.639 So when you were doing Blow the Whistle, did you 83 00:03:41.680 --> 00:03:43.360 know that that was going to be such a timeless 84 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:44.879 record at the time. Did you know it was going 85 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:47.199 to be something that was going to be such an 86 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:47.960 iconic song. 87 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:52.840 You never know that a song is a classic when 88 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:57.080 you're first making it. You don't people say it you 89 00:03:57.159 --> 00:03:59.599 feel good things. I get a different I get different 90 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:03.520 feelings from certain songs while we're making them, and I 91 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:05.960 get certain feelings after we make them and we mix 92 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:07.240 it down and I listened to it a lot, and 93 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:10.639 I'm like, this song really feels good, but in different ways. Like, 94 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:13.000 some songs might be the turn up good, some songs 95 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:16.480 might be emotionally good, and some songs might be the music. 96 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:19.079 It's just sounds so good. It's just sounds so good. 97 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:23.720 But Blow the Whistle was a song that it was 98 00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:28.279 easily crafted in terms of how fast the beat was made, 99 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:31.639 how fast the vocals went down, and how it wasn't 100 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:35.920 There was never any you know, doubt of where to 101 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:38.040 go with the song, except it used to have rock 102 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:42.199 guitars on it because Little John is the producer and 103 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:44.920 at that time he was in that Kronk rock era. 104 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:47.519 He did this little thing for a while with Kronk 105 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:52.160 Music with rock and I didn't want the rock guitars 106 00:04:52.199 --> 00:04:54.600 on there on that particular song. And we, you know, 107 00:04:54.680 --> 00:04:57.000 we went back and forth with a little bit, but 108 00:04:57.040 --> 00:04:59.560 it ended up we ended up taking the rock guitars off. 109 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:02.480 And it's cool. It was timeless. I don't know how 110 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:04.240 it got to be timeless. I don't know what that 111 00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:08.000 ingredient is. Jermaine Duprix once came to me and asked me, 112 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:11.240 he said, what did you guys put in that song? 113 00:05:11.319 --> 00:05:14.160 What this was like? Early on, He's like, what is 114 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:16.279 that like? What did y'all, I don't know what we did, 115 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:17.839 like we just you just do what you do. You 116 00:05:17.879 --> 00:05:20.519 make a lot of songs. I mean, can we talk 117 00:05:20.560 --> 00:05:21.759 about the industry. 118 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:23.480 We can sure talk about everything. 119 00:05:23.600 --> 00:05:26.519 So you can never determine what was gonna be magic 120 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:29.319 on camera or even felt like magic, or. 121 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:31.279 How people are gonna perceive it exactly all. 122 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:33.079 Three of those, you know what I'm saying. So when 123 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:35.959 when it's magic and you're like, oh my god, I 124 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:38.720 love that moment, oh my god, the camera loved that moment, 125 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:41.879 and everybody who watches it love that moment, you didn't 126 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:43.759 know that was the best one out of all of them. 127 00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:45.800 You didn't know that there's nothing of feeling inside you 128 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:47.240 that you had at the time that you were like, 129 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:50.079 you know, was one more iconic than the other? Like, 130 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:51.560 I mean, you're doing a lot of you know, music, 131 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:53.240 and you still do like, is there something that does 132 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:55.199 still have something of feeling and maybe not knowing it's. 133 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:59.160 Butler Whist was one of those songs that we knew. 134 00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:02.600 I knew playing it in the studio, playing it in 135 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:05.560 my car before it was before it was released. I 136 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:08.439 knew this is a great song. Yeah, I knew it, 137 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:11.639 But timeless, Like I knew it was great for I 138 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:13.600 made it. I made it in two thousand and five, 139 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:16.160 it was released in two thousand and six. I knew 140 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:18.920 it was great for two thousand and six. But it's 141 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:20.199 still great in twenty twenty. 142 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:22.160 Like for sure, I feel like everybody knows that you 143 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:24.399 can't not play that song and not know that that's 144 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:24.879 a two shoe. 145 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:27.920 And also, I've had a long hip hop career that 146 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:31.240 I started at a young age, and I had a 147 00:06:31.560 --> 00:06:35.319 very successful career in my twenties and thirties. And I 148 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:37.319 made Blow the Whistle when I was forty years old, 149 00:06:37.839 --> 00:06:40.720 So in a career and I'm twenty years into my 150 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:43.160 career at the time. Twenty years into your career, you 151 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:46.800 don't make your biggest hit, not music, not in most things. 152 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:49.639 So that is the you know, one of the things 153 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:54.000 that are like, you know, it's one of those positive 154 00:06:54.040 --> 00:06:56.199 things that you know that so many things about that 155 00:06:56.279 --> 00:06:58.360 song that makes me feel good, that one song probably 156 00:06:58.399 --> 00:06:59.920 made me more money than any other song too. 157 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:03.079 Yeah, I can see that you're still You're still playing it. 158 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:04.560 I still listen to it. It's one of it's one 159 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:05.279 of my favorites. 160 00:07:05.879 --> 00:07:07.360 I mean, Drake sampled it. 161 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:10.360 How many times do you think that you've been sampled. 162 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:14.639 A lot, A lot, lot, lot lot. 163 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:18.639 Give it up to that. Yeah, that's awesome though. I 164 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:21.000 mean that's like I said, again, you didn't know at 165 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:22.639 the times because you're such an artist and you just, 166 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:24.839 you know, make music because it's you're inspired. If it 167 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:27.360 was effortless and things like that, and how it's such 168 00:07:27.959 --> 00:07:31.160 a song that's played, you know, everyday, household song gets 169 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:32.480 you know, it's it's pretty awesome. 170 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:37.120 Bottom line is I love making music and I only 171 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:40.879 I'm only into this the way I'm into it for. 172 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:44.079 I'm not gonna say for money, but it's my job. 173 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:49.560 It's my hustle. Like literally, I associate making music with 174 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:52.399 making money. So every time I make a move, like 175 00:07:52.759 --> 00:07:57.839 you know, it's all about it's all about how can 176 00:07:57.879 --> 00:08:01.439 I maximize this thing right here, this song, this album, 177 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:04.759 this project. So that's how we think. And I don't 178 00:08:04.759 --> 00:08:07.000 think i'd be a rapper for rapper right now. If 179 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:09.399 it was for free, I probably would have wrapped at 180 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:12.040 a young age. This Michells rocked the crowd. But then 181 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:15.079 at some point if it was for free, yeah. 182 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:16.480 Then why do it? I mean, I feel the same way. 183 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:19.680 If I had to do porn for free, then why 184 00:08:19.879 --> 00:08:22.199 why do it? Like there has to be some kind 185 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:24.319 of incentive. I didn't do it just because of monetary 186 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:26.839 value and things, but it was good incentive. 187 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:29.800 There's a name for porn stars. We worked for free. 188 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:38.519 Slut Private Talk. You better like comment and subscribe to 189 00:08:38.519 --> 00:08:40.840 this channel because it's even gonna get better. Just wait. 190 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:43.840 So how does it feel and how is it, you know, 191 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:47.000 working with big stars like jay Z, you know, Tupac 192 00:08:47.279 --> 00:08:49.919 and Biggie and you know, all these people like that. 193 00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:51.159 How does how does it feel to be in a 194 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:54.039 room with such you know, great people. 195 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:59.679 It feels like hard work pays off and every every 196 00:08:59.720 --> 00:09:02.360 door they're open for me. Every room I found myself 197 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:06.240 in that was like super VIP. Every studio session where 198 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:08.679 it was like the biggest of the best working with me. 199 00:09:08.879 --> 00:09:11.320 I worked with Lady Gotgat. You know, like every time 200 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:14.759 I got in that position, I didn't go boy, I 201 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:16.679 didn't go to I didn't say to myself, boy, you 202 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:19.279 sure are lucky. I was like, this is all that 203 00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:24.000 hard work, all them days and nights at my mama's 204 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:26.000 house when I was in high school, just trying to 205 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:28.360 figure out how to be a rapper and going around 206 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:32.960 the streets of Oakland selling tapes, walking the streets selling 207 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:36.600 cassette tapes back in the day, and you know, all 208 00:09:36.639 --> 00:09:41.240 the the the early recordings I was doing when I 209 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:43.120 was fresh out of high school and I was, you know, 210 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:45.360 barely getting in the studio and trying to figure out 211 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:47.360 how to work the buttons and how to you know 212 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:49.200 that should peck it out. We spent a lot of 213 00:09:49.320 --> 00:09:55.320 nights in the studio, showing up at eleven pm and 214 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:58.360 leaving at seven am, and just being in there all night. 215 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:02.159 Back before we had money, before we had the luxury 216 00:10:02.200 --> 00:10:06.000 of work in decent hours, it was a hustle. So 217 00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:08.759 I think it's to be in the room with the 218 00:10:08.759 --> 00:10:12.279 big boys. Is hard work paying off, That's it. 219 00:10:12.879 --> 00:10:15.440 I like that. How was it to meet Lizzo. 220 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:20.440 Well, Lizzo surprisingly well, I'm not even gonna say surprisingly 221 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:22.200 because she's she's kind of a wild one. 222 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:23.000 Right, Yeah. 223 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:26.279 Her birthday is the day before mine. And I'm like, 224 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:29.919 I get to you with exactly we are the. 225 00:10:29.840 --> 00:10:32.080 Bulls you kind of you know her, So it's like 226 00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:33.960 it's like an old soul kind of thing. It's like, 227 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:36.080 I just you don't know her, but you know exactly 228 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:36.960 whe she's coming from. 229 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:38.639 I get the gist of it. I get the spirit. 230 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:43.600 It's like I am. It's like, I'm fucking talented and 231 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:45.440 I'm fucking getting ready to get paid off the ship 232 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:47.960 and I'm getting ready to fucking enjoy life. Period. 233 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:49.879 You can't fuck with anything like that. It's more, it's 234 00:10:49.919 --> 00:10:52.279 just honest. She's being who she is, She's living her truth. 235 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:52.840 And I think that. 236 00:10:53.000 --> 00:10:55.960 Some people take their talents. We don't have to say names, 237 00:10:55.960 --> 00:10:57.440 and you don't. You can think of anyone you want 238 00:10:57.440 --> 00:11:01.480 to think of. But some people will take their talent 239 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:03.600 and they make a lot of money and earn a 240 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:05.559 lot of get a lot of fame from it, and 241 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:11.039 they're angry and I never know why. I'm like, I'm like, 242 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:14.519 you can stand up for everything you believe in, but 243 00:11:14.759 --> 00:11:18.720 the minute you speak your voice, you don't have to 244 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:22.440 take that anger into your enjoyment of life. Let it, 245 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:26.679 let it interrupt you having fun with life, like the don't be. 246 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:28.639 Mad man, Like I feel like people take life too 247 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:30.480 serious sometimes and there's like, you know, there's a time 248 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:31.960 to be serious and there's a times and enjoy it. 249 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:33.440 And I feel like, because you know, you do put 250 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:35.279 all those hard hours in that you know, in the 251 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:37.360 studio and putting all those hearts on the road being 252 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:39.519 away from family and you know, things like that that 253 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:41.639 it's like there's those moments, like you said, of being 254 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:43.360 in the room with the big boys and that's it's like, 255 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:45.960 it's just those are the small moments that you got 256 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:46.600 to just keep with it. 257 00:11:46.799 --> 00:11:49.200 You are who you are, so you know, I don't 258 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:52.039 think it's a zodiac sign thing or anything. I just 259 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:54.600 think it's the life you live. And some people are 260 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:55.720 just too emotional. 261 00:11:56.600 --> 00:11:59.240 True, I mean, I agree with that. I think that 262 00:12:00.559 --> 00:12:01.120 if you are. 263 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:02.320 I wouldn't I wouldn't judge. 264 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:04.919 I don't think that I'm gonna I'm emotional in different levels. 265 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:06.600 I feel like we all are as human, but I 266 00:12:06.600 --> 00:12:09.600 feel like I can be emotional. Yeah. Well, I'm just 267 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:11.919 saying it's myself meaning me personal. I'm a delicate flower. 268 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:15.000 I like to say, too emotional is ship just ship 269 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:16.399 just pushes you over the top. 270 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:18.799 Oh, you know, I'm not like that. I feel like 271 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:22.360 I have walls, but they're not those ones I don't like. 272 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:29.240 So do you have like a crazy fan story, because 273 00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:30.519 I'm sure you have lots of. 274 00:12:30.799 --> 00:12:35.200 Capacity, like let's say I've had lunatic fans and I've had. 275 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:37.679 Let's do let's do because we'll get to a leader 276 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:39.960 with a sexual like sexier part of it. Let's do 277 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:46.039 a lunatic story where it was just like super insane. 278 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:57.360 I had a mysterious person who was like an uh 279 00:12:57.519 --> 00:13:03.519 invisible sugar Mama at the time. I'm selling you know, 280 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:06.919 is my first when I did my first platinum album, 281 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:10.720 first big tour, first time like just going out in 282 00:13:10.759 --> 00:13:15.039 the world and just being too short. 283 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:17.679 And explain what the invisible sugar Mama is to private 284 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:18.759 talk listeners because. 285 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:23.320 I have my invisible sugar Mama was sending me. 286 00:13:23.399 --> 00:13:27.240 Gifts, what kind of gifts, like nice shit like like 287 00:13:27.320 --> 00:13:29.200 Louis shoes, like nice. 288 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:32.759 It's not that she was sending me ship. It's that 289 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:35.399 the ship. Every time I checked into a hotel room, 290 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:39.919 we were doing five shows a week and five different 291 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:42.039 cities on the tour bus going from city to city, 292 00:13:42.360 --> 00:13:44.559 and I would have these really nice hotel suites and 293 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:47.720 every time I checked into my room, it would be 294 00:13:47.759 --> 00:13:51.759 a balloon arrangement, a card. It would be like some gifts, 295 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:53.960 you know, something that was It was always something decent 296 00:13:54.960 --> 00:14:01.120 and thoughtful, and I never knew who it was. And 297 00:14:02.039 --> 00:14:06.360 long story short, it went on for a while and 298 00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:10.679 finally she appeared and said, that's me. That's been doing that. 299 00:14:10.759 --> 00:14:11.399 She was cute. 300 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:14.960 How did she appear like you like? It's like, you know, 301 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:17.080 Ala showed up at one of my shows. 302 00:14:17.240 --> 00:14:18.840 She was It was always related to the show. She 303 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:21.399 showed up at a show backstage and said, that's me, 304 00:14:21.679 --> 00:14:24.480 blah blah blah. So we had this little friendship. I 305 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:26.960 would have to say, maybe we had sex once. 306 00:14:27.759 --> 00:14:29.840 How do you maybe have sex like you like? 307 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:31.080 Like we might have. I might have sucked her. I 308 00:14:31.080 --> 00:14:32.120 can't really remember if I fed her. 309 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:34.639 Were you drunk and you didn't remember? 310 00:14:34.759 --> 00:14:38.679 Other parts of the story are such more memorable than 311 00:14:38.840 --> 00:14:45.159 in the sex, So long story short, she she I 312 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:47.639 started getting the kind of stalker. 313 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:49.799 Vibe because you came the invisible dick. 314 00:14:49.840 --> 00:14:52.360 So I started getting I started getting the stalker vibe, 315 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:56.440 and I didn't want the ship anymore. And I had 316 00:14:56.480 --> 00:14:58.879 a friend of mine who was like, you know a 317 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:01.000 few friends of mine, they're like, stupid, motherfucker, you keep 318 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:02.840 buying you shit, You stupid motherfucker. Let her give you 319 00:15:02.840 --> 00:15:07.320 the ship. I'm like, my size is I don't want it, 320 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:12.440 so literally I made it. I arranged it so that 321 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:16.120 one of my friends and her would be in the 322 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:19.080 same place and start liking each other, and it was 323 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:20.639 it was all you know, we were young and sh 324 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:24.320 it was perfect time because I was probably twenty two, 325 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:27.039 and he's like, it's his game. Had to be simple, 326 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:30.440 like he don't want you you know what? Sing Yeah, 327 00:15:30.440 --> 00:15:32.720 that shit works. So it worked and he got he 328 00:15:32.840 --> 00:15:36.720 was he was milking her. He loved it, and later 329 00:15:36.840 --> 00:15:40.360 on I figured out what it was. It was. It 330 00:15:40.399 --> 00:15:46.519 was so simple too. She was her father was had 331 00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:49.519 something to do with the promoters, so he was in 332 00:15:49.559 --> 00:15:52.360 cahoots with the big boys who were running the tour 333 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:56.399 and they were telling her where my room number was. 334 00:15:56.519 --> 00:15:58.639 So that's how she got the gifts lid and every 335 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:00.759 before I could get there. And then on top of that, 336 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:03.799 her father later on was like some kind of shady 337 00:16:03.879 --> 00:16:07.759 dude who was better printing money so to speak, like 338 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:10.039 he was he was making money or something. 339 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:12.200 So did your friends stay with her? They happily married 340 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:13.039 with two kids. 341 00:16:13.639 --> 00:16:15.120 No, no, no, you just milked out of a lot 342 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:18.240 of gifts and it just saw trinkles down to some 343 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:22.480 some shady fan shit. But it was fun though it 344 00:16:22.519 --> 00:16:23.480 was it was a fun day. 345 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:25.399 I mean at that time, it's like you're young. You 346 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:26.879 can kind of see what you get away with. You 347 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:29.919 don't really know what it all really entails. Like, I mean, 348 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:32.039 I would be kind of like, hey, I'm gonna follow, 349 00:16:32.039 --> 00:16:34.320 They're gonna know exactly what my room is and give 350 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:35.639 me gifts, and you know, we can only take it 351 00:16:35.639 --> 00:16:37.360 so far. But when it starts getting creepy and you 352 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:39.759 have to forget you had sex with her, you. 353 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:42.360 Know, I just think I just remember I remember not 354 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:44.879 liking her like that, like yeah, and she was beautiful 355 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:47.679 and stuff. I just I still don't like that personality 356 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:51.240 where it's just like you know, you're trying to buy me. 357 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:53.559 Yeah, yeah, I don't like that either. For me, I 358 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:55.919 felt like that's why, you know, in my industry is 359 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:58.480 very taboo. A lot of girls do extracurriculativities, which I'm 360 00:16:58.480 --> 00:17:00.759 like to each his own, but I just feel like 361 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:03.399 I want. I give a problem with people telling me 362 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:05.279 what to do, so I want to control it. I 363 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:07.359 want to do it, and I work harder for it. 364 00:17:07.480 --> 00:17:08.200 Give me things. 365 00:17:08.440 --> 00:17:11.200 I'm okay with you giving things, but I mean, not 366 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:13.880 like buying my affection, because then it's like, it's how 367 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:15.839 do you know that that when you're stopped buying things, 368 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:17.559 that the affection is still going to be there most 369 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:19.960 times nine times at the time it's not, so I'll 370 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:22.720 buy for myself and I just keep rocking like that. 371 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:26.079 So who are your top five porn stars? Because you know, 372 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:29.440 I met you in the industry of sorts, you know, 373 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:33.000 at a party. I don't even exactly remember how we 374 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:35.440 exactly remember? Do you remember how we met? 375 00:17:35.839 --> 00:17:37.319 Could be? Could be? 376 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:39.240 I feel like because I know my ex husband was 377 00:17:39.279 --> 00:17:41.079 friends with you, and I don't know if that introduced 378 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:42.319 me because of that, but I just knew you were 379 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:44.720 always in the like, you know, the adult scene is 380 00:17:44.880 --> 00:17:46.920 how did you get started? Like being wrapped up in 381 00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:47.799 the whole adult world? 382 00:17:48.720 --> 00:17:52.920 You remember those days when uh Snoop did the DV 383 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:56.519 did the DVD uh thing. I forget what it was 384 00:17:56.559 --> 00:17:59.400 called though, but it was it was a few rappers. 385 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:01.640 And to the you know business. 386 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:05.160 I thought he was a rapper and he was rapping 387 00:18:05.160 --> 00:18:07.200 in all his video. He started rapping and start sucking 388 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:09.880 like it was it was hip hop and porn. We're 389 00:18:09.880 --> 00:18:11.920 playing around with each other a little bit, and I 390 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:15.720 was just there. I produced a couple of shitty movies. 391 00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:19.160 You know, when you do something that you're not supposed 392 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:21.480 to do, but then you know you still lure it 393 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:21.880 into it. 394 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:23.480 What makes you think that was shitty because you like 395 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:25.559 didn't know what you were doing or you just didn't 396 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:26.839 care about it, or like what. 397 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:30.039 Would make it was the right talent because it was like, 398 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:32.759 you know, Mi Ka Tan and mister Marcus. It was 399 00:18:32.759 --> 00:18:36.400 a real ethnic kind of vibe and you know, Wesley 400 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:40.240 Pipes was it and whatever, and we kind of I say, 401 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:41.880