Speaker 1: Welcome, dear listener, and thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2: And I'm Stephen and this is a podcast all about
Speaker 2: the weird and wonderful world of the dark comedy anthology
Speaker 2: series Inside number nine.
Speaker 1: On each episode, we'll be diving into another one of
Speaker 1: Steve Pemberton and Reese Shearsmith's twisted tales, putting it under
Speaker 1: a lens and examining it within an inch of its life.
Speaker 2: So make yourself comfortable, grab a cup of tea, and
Speaker 2: join us for the ninth degree. Hello, Hello, Hello, welcome back.
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm okay. How are you doing?
Speaker 2: You're not bad? A lot of people holiday this week
Speaker 2: at work, so it's busy, busy.
Speaker 1: No rest for the wicked.
Speaker 2: How about with you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just all right. It's just ticking along, really,
Speaker 1: isn't it. Yeah, nothing exciting to announce.
Speaker 2: No, not really, No.
Speaker 1: Life goes on.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Shall we tell listeners about our hair from last week?
Speaker 2: What was it last week?
Speaker 1: Well? It was Love's Great Adventure. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that's quite understandable, making a podcast about a show he loves,
Speaker 1: great adventure, mystery romance. That's it done, Thank you. Look
Speaker 1: out for another one this.
Speaker 2: Week, as we discuss lip service. This week, Series six,
Speaker 2: episode three, Felix is pretty certain his wife is up
Speaker 2: to something with her boss Dmitri, so he decides to
Speaker 2: hire someone to help prove things either one way or
Speaker 2: the other. When professional lip reader Iris arrived with her
Speaker 2: powerful boculars, the pair stak out in a hotel bedroom
Speaker 2: and start to gather their evidence. Yeah that's about it, Yeah, thoughts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think i'd forgotten the twist, to be honest, Okay,
Speaker 1: so thinking back on it, when I think I said
Speaker 1: to you last week, I'm not that excited about this week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd completely forgotten the twist. So yeah, I mean it's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's quite good.
Speaker 2: Right, I like it. I think if it weren't for
Speaker 2: the twist, I really wouldn't be a fan, because, yeah,
Speaker 2: more a charactery thing is not my kind of cover
Speaker 2: of tea. Yeah, but I think it's quite a fun one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's got some sweet moments in it and
Speaker 1: some good comedy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. One of Race's roles, Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. So interestingly, our location is not the number nine.
Speaker 2: To bait me into her in this debate.
Speaker 1: Oh, I wasn't even thinking about that, but yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't, is it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't really know what they were thinking. Well, but
Speaker 2: did you notice that the hotel room number the.
Speaker 1: Digits side up to nine. And you've trained me now
Speaker 1: anytime I see a number, I'm like, yeah, just check
Speaker 1: if the digits side up to nine. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the fire alarm. It's happening at three fifteen tonight.
Speaker 1: Yes, well done, well done, very clever. I suppose the
Speaker 1: thing is that this late into the into the show,
Speaker 1: they're they're sort of having to experimental look bit with
Speaker 1: them their number nine s which is which is cool?
Speaker 1: I think? Yeah, you know, because you could you could
Speaker 1: argue that obviously, you know, their attention is so focused
Speaker 1: on what's going on inside number nine.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that works.
Speaker 1: But we are in this rather grossy hotel room.
Speaker 2: Not best, is it?
Speaker 1: I would say it's I mean, it might be grotty,
Speaker 1: but it's quite spacious.
Speaker 2: It's pretty big, yeah, and.
Speaker 1: A lovely walk in wardrobe type thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with real hangers, like they trust you with hangers
Speaker 2: in that place.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a fallen bathroom with a shower and a bath
Speaker 2: and everything like it's not some pokey little cupboard. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and crucially in an adjoining room as well, Yes, which will
Speaker 2: become relevant later.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: So I was watching this first night because the music
Speaker 2: is quite serious sounding, and LA like, it looks like
Speaker 2: it's gonna be one of those serious episodes and Steve
Speaker 2: starts crying into a into a pillow. Yeah, and then
Speaker 2: we see the porn and we're like, oh, maybe it
Speaker 2: isn't as serious as you might think it's going to be.
Speaker 1: Yes, talking about the music, the music made me laugh
Speaker 1: in this episode because there's this there's this piano theme
Speaker 1: that he's written for it, and that's therese same like
Speaker 1: eight bars or whatever of piano music just keep playing
Speaker 1: but in slightly different keys throughout the episode, and it
Speaker 1: just as a musician, it's just amusing. It's like he's
Speaker 1: just gone transpose that into that'll do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard Foreign a Friday.
Speaker 1: So Yeah, Steve's playing Felix.
Speaker 2: Felix Hughes generic boring man. Yeah, apparently this week.
Speaker 1: He's quite good at those kind of roles. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think, you know, like you say, first of all,
Speaker 1: you think it's quite serious. You think he might have
Speaker 1: come to end his life or something.
Speaker 2: It could be all sorts of horrible things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yes, it's quite unsavory.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jesus Christ or whatever he says he finds it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, it's just delightful, isn't it. Anyway, go.
Speaker 2: To the local hedges for that kind of material, don't you.
Speaker 2: That's why it's normally Yeah.
Speaker 1: So he gets rid of.
Speaker 2: It, yeah, with with like tongues.
Speaker 1: And well it's a couple of pencils, isn't it, which
Speaker 1: he then later on in the episode he puts in
Speaker 1: his mouth.
Speaker 2: So, oh yeah he does.
Speaker 1: So I think he must have forgotten what he'd been
Speaker 1: using them for earlier. Charming.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, then we get the best character of the episode.
Speaker 1: Mister Muller. Mister Muller, Eric Muller. Who I mean, he's
Speaker 1: almost literally just a Nazi, isn't he?
Speaker 2: Pretty much?
Speaker 1: Not to put too fine a points on.
Speaker 2: It, Yeah, yeah, now you mentioned it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, let me just preface this by saying,
Speaker 1: I love German people. Yeah, I know a few German
Speaker 1: people and they're all really lovely, and I love the
Speaker 1: German accent and the German language. So I'm not just saying,
Speaker 1: oh he's German, there is a Nazi, but yeah, the
Speaker 1: way he plays it is so specifically like that sort
Speaker 1: of Nazi doctor or comman dance or something in a camp.
Speaker 2: You know, he really is false stereotype, and it's like
Speaker 2: this character could be absolutely nothing, like he's not a
Speaker 2: really important character whatsoever. And Reese has gone, no, no,
Speaker 2: I will run with this. There are no small parts
Speaker 2: and all that.
Speaker 1: Yes, but yeah, I mean the mustache and the glasses.
Speaker 1: It's so so stereotypical out of a World War two movie,
Speaker 1: isn't he. The accent is brilliant as well.
Speaker 2: Some of the phrasing when.
Speaker 1: He says, I don't need to check the sell by
Speaker 1: days on your lordest Cara Las biscuits, so specific and
Speaker 1: everything's so sort of calm, and he.
Speaker 2: Just cannot leave him alone.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: He comes in about five times within the space of
Speaker 2: train two minutes.
Speaker 1: It's very faulty towers. Yea, yeah, yeah, it's that farcical
Speaker 1: sort of.
Speaker 2: If Buzzer was German, this would be.
Speaker 1: Well literally yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, because he has
Speaker 1: lots of buzzers, lots of things about trying to come
Speaker 1: into rooms to watch people who shouldn't be in there
Speaker 1: and stuff. Doesn't he Yeah, yeah, we'll get we'll get
Speaker 1: to it in a bit. But it's a great scene
Speaker 1: when he comes in trying to find her. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's good in you know what's got some quite depressing
Speaker 1: and dark, but it's in this episode. It's nice to
Speaker 1: have comic relief to balance it. Yea, So definitely it's
Speaker 1: nice having him come in.
Speaker 2: He's brilliant, he's great.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's like, even when he's saying, what, on
Speaker 1: the face of it is quite a nice thing about
Speaker 1: you know, he offers to book him a table at
Speaker 1: the restaurant and he says no, thank you, and he's like,
Speaker 1: this is no consequence. He says, it's such a nice thing.
Speaker 1: But he says it's so threateningly, Yeah, I hope you
Speaker 1: enjoy a.
Speaker 2: Lax and stay making nice. Definitely. Yeah, it's so strange.
Speaker 2: It's like that thing of have a good day is nice,
Speaker 2: enjoy your next twenty four hours of life is quite threatening. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know why he's so suspicious of this man. No,
Speaker 1: is he like this with every guest.
Speaker 2: Or well I had this, I have a theory for
Speaker 2: later about that. Oh okay, so I go with it now.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm wondering. I thought next door it's presumably
Speaker 2: calling reception saying the hearing all this stuff, so that
Speaker 2: when the police inevitably call later, Muller will go, Yes,
Speaker 2: he was definitely on his own. No one was involved,
Speaker 2: Like I've checked that room thoroughly several times. Oh, I see, yeah,
Speaker 2: and there's no no one else is going to get
Speaker 2: the blame for it. It's going to get so depended on him.
Speaker 1: That would be handy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's much more of an opening shotcase for
Speaker 2: the government and well, the police and everything. Yeah, would
Speaker 2: be my guess.
Speaker 1: Basically, give them a witness for the witness for there
Speaker 1: being no one else.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And Felix gets more and more stressed every
Speaker 2: time he's there, Like he'll be like telling the police,
Speaker 2: guy who's getting more and more worked up every time
Speaker 2: I saw in them. Yeah, I think mother won't remotely
Speaker 2: think that's his fault.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, when clearly it's.
Speaker 2: Mother won't stop showing up. That's caused me and more
Speaker 2: and more bissed up.
Speaker 1: Yes, So we meet Iris well quote unquote Iris. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's everyone name probably.
Speaker 2: Not, probably not wonderful Sean Cliffords. Yes, she's brilliant, she's
Speaker 2: so funny. I keep sort of vaguely mixing her up
Speaker 2: with the woman from Death being not proud. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: was going to say that with the funny mouth. They're
Speaker 2: so similar.
Speaker 1: Yeah that I wrote down quirky, very emily, Yeah, very
Speaker 1: similar performance. But again, it's very clever when you when
Speaker 1: you realize at the end that she's been doing this
Speaker 1: as a performance the whole time. Yeah, she's been putting
Speaker 1: this character on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's an extreme character. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's kind of sad at the end though, when you
Speaker 1: realize it wasn't real because she she was nice, and
Speaker 1: she is nice. They could have had something mm hmm.
Speaker 2: But yeah, poor Felix gets sucked in so quickly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of which, the jokes about her being a prostitute,
Speaker 1: because again, this is you know, we're watching it for
Speaker 1: the first time. This woman turns up and you know
Speaker 1: she could well.
Speaker 2: Be you could you could. It's a bold, like icebreaking
Speaker 2: joke to make.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, and I don't. I mean, I'm not that
Speaker 1: experienced in these things, but I don't think many prostitutes
Speaker 1: turn up in that kind of Cardigan.
Speaker 2: Probably not. I mean, maybe that's that's what they've paid for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no accounting for tasting.
Speaker 1: We also get this thing about hotel kettles. Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: my god, why Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't have any problem believing that's true.
Speaker 1: No, neither do I.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I want to know why, and it.
Speaker 1: Makes me think back to all the times I might
Speaker 1: have used those kettles.
Speaker 2: I don't do to your coffee, so I don't.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that lucky.
Speaker 2: I think I've steamed a shirt over a kettle before
Speaker 2: in a hotel room. But that's about it. Yes, because
Speaker 2: they didn't have a trouser press either, because they weren't
Speaker 2: for stuff.
Speaker 1: Yes, But the thing is, the tea and coffee that
Speaker 1: you get from those is never very good anyway, because
Speaker 1: you sort of have to use the water from the bathroom, right,
Speaker 1: which is not good, and then it's just substandard. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean it's you know, I mean, it probably doesn't
Speaker 1: make a difference when you boil it, does it.
Speaker 2: You know. That's the other thing. I know. It's not
Speaker 2: obviously not nice, but if someone has been cleaning their
Speaker 2: pants in there or whatever, like, at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, it is boiled.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but I don't like the idea.
Speaker 2: I'm not really advocating.
Speaker 1: The idea of it. Yeah, I'm not sure what's worse,
Speaker 1: the peeing in it or the underwear. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: probab they're both as bad as each other. Really, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it makes me think next time I go
Speaker 1: to a hotel, I probably won't use the kettle.
Speaker 2: Like, obviously I don't condone it, but I can vague
Speaker 2: understand the washing your pants in it. Why would you
Speaker 2: be peeing in the kettle?
Speaker 1: Because people are weird.
Speaker 2: People are just weirdn't.
Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, do you know what I could do?
Speaker 1: That would be a laugh, wouldn't it? Why? And then
Speaker 1: boil it and see what that's like.
Speaker 2: People are so strange.
Speaker 1: People are so that. Yeah, people are very strange.
Speaker 2: Yeah. AnyWho, So we find out that Iris is actually
Speaker 2: there to be a lip reader for felix Y the
Speaker 2: spy on his were as far as we're aware, partner. Yeah, Brenda,
Speaker 2: I can never take anyone seriously called Brenda. I'm sorry
Speaker 2: if you're called Brenda.
Speaker 1: Listeners inherently funny names. And today's message that I'm going
Speaker 1: to read out comes from Brenda.
Speaker 2: Welcome, Brenda, hello and goodbye.
Speaker 1: I like this idea of a professional lip reader that
Speaker 1: you can hire. Yeah, presumably it must exist.
Speaker 2: I assume. So, yeah, like they do get them on
Speaker 2: like you see them in news and stuff when you
Speaker 2: know you'll see I don't know them chatting on the
Speaker 2: balcony at Buckingham Palace and someone like lip readers have
Speaker 2: said they're saying X, Y and Z, like, yeah, they
Speaker 2: must they must exist. It's a really morally dubious profession.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's a bit like a sort of private
Speaker 1: investigator type thing that you could just hire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's yes, questionable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's very like well put across like the
Speaker 1: whole thing of oh, you know, we can't guarantee this,
Speaker 1: you know, this amount of accuracy and blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: and it's yeah, especially from live, which is quite a
Speaker 1: professional about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can understand. She said she normally does
Speaker 2: it for like court stuff from CCTV and that kind
Speaker 2: of thing. That makes more sense. But actually doing it
Speaker 2: live spying on someone with binoculars just feel so icky. Yes,
Speaker 2: it does, especially if you think they're having an affair.
Speaker 1: It's just inherently well yeah, yeah, let's hope the blinds
Speaker 1: do get drawn. But yes, you get quite a lot
Speaker 1: of humor from her misreadings of things. Yeah, the piano, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: So she's trying to identify if it's who it is,
Speaker 2: if this is the right, if he's got the partner,
Speaker 2: And Felix says something like he saw her in that
Speaker 2: this morning, and we obviously assume that that was at home,
Speaker 2: but presumably he's been spying on her as well.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yeah, I never twigged that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he must be just like lurking in the bushes
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 1: He is a bit creepy, isn't he.
Speaker 2: Yeah, have a nice shout out for Dorothy Perkins. She
Speaker 2: doesn't get much love, blessing. They're not even that old,
Speaker 2: are they, Like, I'm sure that's where Nana's party dress
Speaker 2: came from. Like it's all old lady clothes, isn't it.
Speaker 2: I have no idea.
Speaker 1: The name rings a bell see it on the high street.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I thought it sounded like a funny name
Speaker 1: for him to have got it from. As you like,
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't very special. So his wife, or
Speaker 1: we think is his wife is like a press secretary.
Speaker 2: Yes, with this Dmitriy Novak, who's some she describing as
Speaker 2: political agitator. That's right, with very nice hair apparently by
Speaker 2: all accounts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny when she says about you know, your
Speaker 1: wife has a very good taste.
Speaker 2: Yeah, poor poor little Felix, do you mean him on me?
Speaker 1: She's like both different ways. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So he's wanting to find out whether she's having an
Speaker 2: affair with this Dimitri guy. Yeah, and it's hoping that
Speaker 2: she isn't. Then he has a chance, and he's gone
Speaker 2: to the lengths of hiring a lip reader, which it's
Speaker 2: just a bit weird, but we'll get more into that later.
Speaker 2: And she starts doing her job, and I don't think
Speaker 2: poor Phelix can really handle it, honey. No, he thought
Speaker 2: this would be a great idea, but when it actually
Speaker 2: comes down to.
Speaker 1: It, Yeah, I mean it must be awful to sit through. Yeah,
Speaker 1: fair enough if you choose to eavesdrop and what you
Speaker 1: shouldn't be eavesdropping on. But then you know it's your
Speaker 1: own fault, really, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is this where we get the return of the wonderful Miller?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: The fascicle hiding into the bathroom, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Under in the cupboard, and I've got standards are going
Speaker 2: the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's very Emily, and she's like, nah.
Speaker 2: I'll go in the bathroom, Emily. And what's her face,
Speaker 2: Shelley Henderson. Is it to make a great little three
Speaker 2: actual yeah, like triplets?
Speaker 1: Yes, oh that would be great. Make it happen, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this this scene is so faulty Towers, it really is.
Speaker 1: It's the poor pretense of bringing the breakfast menus. If
Speaker 1: there's such a rubbish excuse to come in and check
Speaker 1: the room, Yeah, the breakfast menu and noticed you didn't
Speaker 1: have one?
Speaker 2: How will you live without one?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And like he's not said anything at the time, so
Speaker 2: that he can go away and come back and surprise
Speaker 2: the men at some moment with this information.
Speaker 1: It's fantastic. I mean, are we going to call out the.
Speaker 2: Price thirty one ninety nine or something.
Speaker 1: Thirty one ninety nine and a seven pound trade charge? Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you wish to say, in your room. And Felix
Speaker 1: is just like, yes, that all sounds very reasonable. What
Speaker 1: he's used just trying to get rid of him. It
Speaker 1: really doesn't.
Speaker 2: It does not for that. If there rooms are this
Speaker 2: bright and lovely and exciting, then I imagine the breakfast
Speaker 2: will be equally lovely and exciting. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 2: know it's London prices, but still thirty too quick for
Speaker 2: a breakfast? Yeah, what are you getting? And I imagine
Speaker 2: Mula's been at reception and watched Emily come in, not Emily.
Speaker 1: Irish come in, yeah, or she might be called Emily
Speaker 1: for all we know.
Speaker 2: And probably followed her at a distance upstairs to see
Speaker 2: I'll watch on the CCTV to see where she went.
Speaker 2: And then you maybe had to rack his brains and gone, oh,
Speaker 2: there wasn't a breakfast what do you?
Speaker 1: What does she say when she turns up at reception?
Speaker 1: Like who is she? Because if you're not allowed to
Speaker 1: have people in your.
Speaker 2: Room, presumably just walk with intent to the lift. Yes,
Speaker 2: but he's the kind of person that probably is on
Speaker 2: shift twenty four to seven and knows every single person
Speaker 2: in every single room. So I was remembered from earlier
Speaker 2: that there wasn't a breakfast menu, and he's taking his chance.
Speaker 1: I love that he's just scrambled around to try and
Speaker 1: find a breakfast menu so you can.
Speaker 2: Take out you have one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I can't stop thinking of Basil and like,
Speaker 1: you know, the game's up, but a game pie up there,
Speaker 1: and the one I love here is he's so funny
Speaker 1: when he's so sinister and he's like everything else in
Speaker 1: order you don't need any more cartannis.
Speaker 2: It's this big moment he's about to bust them.
Speaker 1: No, that was so funny, comedy genius.
Speaker 2: But the best line, No, the best line is the
Speaker 2: next one.
Speaker 1: What's the next one?
Speaker 2: When you can't get in to the bathroom because locked itself?
Speaker 1: But the skeleton.
Speaker 2: It's so stupid.
Speaker 1: It is it really is. Yes, So a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago we offended all our Italian listeners and now
Speaker 1: we're going to be offending all our German listeners. Work
Speaker 1: way around Europe for sorry, much like Hitler did.
Speaker 2: I kept that joke inside.
Speaker 1: I couldn't help it.
Speaker 2: Yes, he has the key of the skeleton, so he
Speaker 2: breaks into the in the bathroom and yeah, it's excited
Speaker 2: because there's a bath curtain up so she must be
Speaker 2: hiding there. Oh yeah, yeah, we have like a Scooby
Speaker 2: Doo style. We'll sneak around to a corner and.
Speaker 1: How he doesn't see her out of his proper vision,
Speaker 1: I don't know, or like the mirror which must be
Speaker 1: right there.
Speaker 2: Or the noise or whatever. Yea, even someone walking quietly
Speaker 2: if there are a couple of feet away from you going.
Speaker 1: To sense them. Yeah, yeah, but no, he.
Speaker 2: Has no spidy senses. Yeah, she seekstuff and he gets
Speaker 2: away with it.
Speaker 1: Who We get a nice bit there after. He goes
Speaker 1: with Iris and Felix just like joking together, joking about him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Nice sort of chemistry. Yeah, and it's like very much
Speaker 1: like a burgeoning thing. M h, it's very sweet.
Speaker 2: It is sweet. Yeah, Like if they were both the
Speaker 2: real people they claim to pretend to be, they probably
Speaker 2: actually would work quite well together exactly. Yeah, they're both
Speaker 2: quite similar, but she's got a bit more of a
Speaker 2: fun side that would make him more fun than yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I don't imagine them she's anything like Brenda.
Speaker 2: No, presumably Brenda's working NPR. She's probably quite outspoken and
Speaker 2: outgoing and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very put together and yeah.
Speaker 2: Whereas Iris is much more timid than Yeah.
Speaker 1: And he asks her a bit about her personal life,
Speaker 1: and she uses that cringey phrase self partner, sorry but
Speaker 1: it is cringey.
Speaker 2: It's awful.
Speaker 1: Single is perfectly fine to say yes, yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And she just goes off and on and on
Speaker 2: about how she's happy. She's happy, she's happy. What we're
Speaker 2: talking about playing the role quite well, m I.
Speaker 1: Think it's around here. Sometimes he says to her, you're
Speaker 1: obviously someone who's never been in love, and she has
Speaker 1: this moment where there's this look on her face, and
Speaker 1: obviously you know. There are multiple twists as it goes along,
Speaker 1: But considering where it all ends up, I'm a bit
Speaker 1: confused as to what that's supposed to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whether that was meant to mean anything, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: guess there's plenty of things it could have meant that
Speaker 2: just didn't come into the story. But it makes her
Speaker 2: a more rounded character. Yeah, to imply things, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean this person that she really is that we
Speaker 1: find out the end, she presumably has a life as well, so.
Speaker 2: Relevant to Yeah, exactly. I know we always say about
Speaker 2: twists have to work both ways, but there's bits like
Speaker 2: this where you can throw in stuff that makes you
Speaker 2: question what's going on that when the reveal happens, don't
Speaker 2: counteract it, but they don't add to it either way.
Speaker 2: Like it still works. It's just there's something we don't
Speaker 2: know about this character still. Yeah, Yeah, that's fine. There's
Speaker 2: some interesting camera angles I don't know how can you.
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about cameras, But you had Felix
Speaker 2: on the bed and Iris up at the window, and
Speaker 2: both of them weren't fully in focus, oh right, even
Speaker 2: though one of them shouldn't have been. Yeah, and I
Speaker 2: didn't know if it was green screen or whether you
Speaker 2: can have like is a split focus lens of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I've heard about that. I think there
Speaker 1: is a way of doing it, but it's quite unnatural,
Speaker 1: I think you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt weird when I noticed it. Yeah, she's
Speaker 2: got a bit of a blur around the edge of
Speaker 2: her and the rooms are all out of focus. But
Speaker 2: both of those two are in focus, even though there
Speaker 2: are different distances. Yeah, and I couldn't stop noticing it
Speaker 2: once i'd seen it.
Speaker 1: To be fair, I think if if you're having that
Speaker 1: one shot with her in the foreground him in the
Speaker 1: background and they're talking to each other and be a
Speaker 1: bit distracting, to sort of keep keep changing focus.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, she goes back to lip reading what's
Speaker 2: going on and find out Brenda's making a phone call
Speaker 2: to Max. This is a great scene. It's such a
Speaker 2: clever way to do what's someone on the other end
Speaker 2: of the phone saying.
Speaker 1: It's very clever. Yeah, I'm very I was very impressed
Speaker 1: by that.
Speaker 2: So clever, you wouldn't think there's more ways of doing
Speaker 2: that than has been done.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like it's not quite realistic. No,
Speaker 1: in that she would need surely a second or two
Speaker 1: to delay. Yeah, but yeah, we'll overlook that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very clever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so good. So yeah, you get Iris essentially speaking
Speaker 2: for Brenda and filling in her side of the conversation
Speaker 2: almost perfectly. Great. How Felix will just turn around every
Speaker 2: now and then and go no, it was this like
Speaker 2: and correct.
Speaker 1: Her as if that matters.
Speaker 2: Now, I had interesting thought here. So Iris obviously isn't
Speaker 2: really Iris, and she's playing a part here. So presumably
Speaker 2: unless one of not Iris's random skills is lip reading,
Speaker 2: as she actually isn't a lip reader. So I'm wondering
Speaker 2: whether the room is bugged and she's pretending to be
Speaker 2: lip reading.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that would make sense because yeah, I hadn't
Speaker 1: thought of that, But yet, how can she possibly do
Speaker 1: that unless she does have that skill?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's presumably then having to fake slip ups
Speaker 2: because one of my criticisms not Christians, but vague criticisms
Speaker 2: was going to be some of these slip ups wouldn't
Speaker 2: really work, Like Max and my ex are to one's
Speaker 2: one syllable ones too the mouth. You'd be able to
Speaker 2: tell the difference, surely if she's that good.
Speaker 1: I suppose. But then people don't always speak clearly true,
Speaker 1: people slur stuff together.
Speaker 2: But some of these, some of these words don't feel
Speaker 2: like they should have been missed. Of all the words
Speaker 2: she gets wrong, yeah, it's not quite. It's it's words
Speaker 2: that sound similar rather than the mouth is similar for
Speaker 2: and I'm like, that's a bit wrong. But then I'm
Speaker 2: thinking if she's faking making mistakes, Yeah, she would do
Speaker 2: it on that way round. Yeah, probably if she's thinking
Speaker 2: on the fly. H just the odd one here and
Speaker 2: there to make it believable.
Speaker 1: M believable to everyone except you. Well, she can't pull
Speaker 1: thell over your eyes.
Speaker 2: I'd be filled in the moment. Yeah, hypedanticism wouldn't allow
Speaker 2: it in really, Yeah, when I watched like three times
Speaker 2: in a row. But yeah, within the within this chat,
Speaker 2: we find out that they're not actually together anymore. They've
Speaker 2: broken up. It's been I think three months. Did they say,
Speaker 2: and yeah, she's getting a restraining order against poor or Felix.
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. Yeah, you can't accept it, No, that
Speaker 1: it's over.
Speaker 2: They've been together eight years. I think they've got a
Speaker 2: three year old son, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's tricky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not that I'm condoning what he's doing, but no,
Speaker 2: you can understand why it's hitting him hard. And he
Speaker 2: does deserve a penis.
Speaker 1: He does, don't we all. Isn't there a film where
Speaker 1: that's a repeated joke? I'm sure I remember what she's
Speaker 1: where someone with a French accent or something is like,
Speaker 1: you have to have a penis in this world. If
Speaker 1: you don't have a penis, you have nothing.
Speaker 2: I can't remember what it's from. It's from. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: we find out that Felix has been on dad Chat
Speaker 2: talking to other sad men. Yes, and it's been recommended
Speaker 2: iris's services to find out what's really going on. That
Speaker 2: chat sounds so believable.
Speaker 1: Oh it does. Yeah, and it would be sad men
Speaker 1: instead of competitive women.
Speaker 2: Women like Mum's Net.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen what's it called the doll Men's
Speaker 2: Club online? And they all just post random stupid things
Speaker 2: that you wouldn't notice. But it's just like things that
Speaker 2: are interesting to dull people.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: And they'll always take a photo of a thing and
Speaker 2: they always put a banana with it against it for reference, Okay,
Speaker 2: for like scale. It is just this running joke that
Speaker 2: there's always a banana for reference, okay, for like scale
Speaker 2: of how big a thing is, even if it's utterly
Speaker 2: irrelevant to the thing that they're doing. And it'd be
Speaker 2: like Dave thirty two and a half, I highly recommend.
Speaker 2: They're very funny sounds it. I think I'll send you some, Okay, But.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like how the episode sort of leading you
Speaker 1: in this direction of thinking that it's a romance between them, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that they're you know, they're two potentially sad people
Speaker 1: that have sort of found each other. Yeah, and they
Speaker 1: have this lovely connection. Do It's a shame that it
Speaker 1: gets torn away from you. So yeah, So they're about
Speaker 1: to kiss when they're interrupted by Mueller again.
Speaker 2: Yes, he's excited the prospect of a fourth star if
Speaker 2: he gets to try to press and all the way.
Speaker 1: I can't believe that. I can't believe they've even got three.
Speaker 2: But then size of the rooms will count for lots.
Speaker 2: I'm guessing, well, I guess yeah. Maybe he's in the
Speaker 2: undeveloped wing, maybe the maybe that's just the old bit
Speaker 2: that looks out of the street. Maybe the side looks
Speaker 2: out of the sea or something nice. I don't know.
Speaker 2: The hell Yeah?
Speaker 1: But also like where they're in, like West London, aren't
Speaker 1: they like presumably quite judging by the house across the
Speaker 1: road is quite an upmarket area, those.
Speaker 2: Ones with those giant pillars with the numbers written on, Yeah,
Speaker 2: aren't they? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then yeah, so right across the road is this
Speaker 1: horrible CD run down hotels a bit strange.
Speaker 2: It probably was like a beautiful hotel in like the
Speaker 2: nineteen twenties m hm, or the Victorian times, and now
Speaker 2: it's just gotten slowly but surely dropped in quality to
Speaker 2: the point where it's like they've not redecorated since forty three.
Speaker 1: What's your opinion on irregardless?
Speaker 2: Well? I looked it up. But it's a real word,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't feel like it should be.
Speaker 1: It's a real this is right, okay, Oh, here we go.
Speaker 2: It's more pedantry.
Speaker 1: It's a real word in as much as anything is
Speaker 1: a word. If people use it, which is literally where
Speaker 1: words come from at the end of the day. Really well, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, I struggle with this because all my
Speaker 1: life I've grown up wanting to be correct about things.
Speaker 1: Shot horror, I know. And you know, as I've grown older,
Speaker 1: I've come to understand that, you know, there isn't necessarily
Speaker 1: a correct way of things, and that so much of language,
Speaker 1: especially is just consensus, isn't it. It's just that's how
Speaker 1: language develops and evolves. This is a massive tangent. So
Speaker 1: I get that there's flexibility and that if people start
Speaker 1: using a word, it becomes a word. But it's just clunky,
Speaker 1: isn't it. It's just it's got the two negative, yeah,
Speaker 1: negative prefix and suffix, and it's just.
Speaker 2: What would Susie Dent say if you're listening.
Speaker 1: Susi Dent right, Well, no, I'll tell you what she says,
Speaker 1: because okay, what I was saying about, you know, wanting
Speaker 1: things to be the right way, and like, there's there's
Speaker 1: prescriptive ways of looking at language versus descriptive, and Susan
Speaker 1: Dentz always said, as a lexicographer and like a dictionary
Speaker 1: writer and stuff, what you do is is descriptive you
Speaker 1: look at how words are being used by people and
Speaker 1: you record it. Yeah, it's not a question of this
Speaker 1: is correct. This is the manual for how to speak English,
Speaker 1: So it's more it's more observational.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that weird gray bit in between it being
Speaker 2: wrong in one context and it being used wrongly enough
Speaker 2: that it now becomes right. Exactly when it stops being
Speaker 2: wrong and it starts being right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the letter H. Lots of people say
Speaker 1: H and other people say H. And I've always grown
Speaker 1: up saying H and believe that to be correct, right,
Speaker 1: And it always irritates me when people say H H.
Speaker 1: I know I've heard you say it. I've been like, okay,
Speaker 1: but it sounds like it should be the other way
Speaker 1: around for north south, Like it's almost dropping the But
Speaker 1: according to Susi dain I used to listen to her podcast,
Speaker 1: she used to do words. According to her, H used
Speaker 1: to be correct. I think I can't remember now, but
Speaker 1: it basically it comes in cycles. So basically, at one
Speaker 1: time H was correct, and then H became correct, and
Speaker 1: now people are starting to say H again and so
Speaker 1: that's becoming more. Yeah, basically, it's just however people are
Speaker 1: using the words at the time. That was a massive tangent.
Speaker 1: But it's something I think about a lot.
Speaker 2: But there's certain things you can say are wrong. But
Speaker 2: at what point, like how many times does someone have
Speaker 2: to say specifically before pacifically just becomes the word instead
Speaker 2: of specifically?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because when there's a clear sort of root
Speaker 1: to it and someone's clearly using the wrong word, that's
Speaker 1: clearly wrong.
Speaker 2: But if enough people say it clearly wrong, does it
Speaker 2: not just become no?
Speaker 1: But no, but that will happen over if that happens,
Speaker 1: because many words that we use today, that are considered
Speaker 1: standard words today, only exist because of people getting them
Speaker 1: wrong hundreds of years ago. Yeah, you know. And the
Speaker 1: reason why certain words are spelt so weirdly is because
Speaker 1: people making mistakes hundreds of years ago. So you just
Speaker 1: have to accept that. Yeah, that's how we roll.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed Dictionary Corner. That was fun.
Speaker 1: I know, I could post about that. I love words
Speaker 1: and things like that, and I.
Speaker 2: Find it fasten that genuinely find it fascinating. Yeah, where
Speaker 2: were we? What was going on?
Speaker 1: Well, Iris is hiding in the bathroom. Oh yes, she
Speaker 1: goes to the loo, and that gives Felix time to rather.
Speaker 2: Cheekily have a rummage.
Speaker 1: Okay, so her phone buzzes and he glances at ith,
Speaker 1: which I suppose is potentially just something you might naturally. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but then to actually get it out, look at it,
Speaker 1: and then go through her bag.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, Well we proved that he doesn't really care
Speaker 2: about invading people's privacy, clearly not. Yeah, do we reckon
Speaker 2: that phone buzz was intentional, like planted while she was
Speaker 2: away to make him go through her stuff. I don't
Speaker 2: know how much of this plan is intentional, yeah, and
Speaker 2: how much is just a happy accident, Yeah, that she
Speaker 2: just runs with.
Speaker 1: It's a bit like you know, ones like misdirection and
Speaker 1: stuff where it's like things seemed to go a certain
Speaker 1: way and it's quite lucky. I think this is a
Speaker 1: case where she had an overall plan and then within
Speaker 1: that it was just you know, there were different options
Speaker 1: and yeah, as long as you get to the right
Speaker 1: place at the end, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: The whole episode could have gone twenty different ways, ends
Speaker 2: up at the same place at the end. Yeah. So
Speaker 2: he goes through her bag, finds a USB drive of
Speaker 2: surveillance footage of him outside. Yes, strange which is yeah,
Speaker 2: pretty odd, but your hands all this When she comes back, then.
Speaker 1: He starts trying to subtly sort of question her.
Speaker 2: Little things, like she didn't know the name of the manager,
Speaker 2: but she shouldn't have known, but did reference him by name.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would have believed when she said, oh,
Speaker 2: you must have said it. I don't know if I
Speaker 2: would ever be confident enough in myself to say no,
Speaker 2: I didn't. Well, yeah, would you even remember that you had?
Speaker 2: Could so readily have forgotten.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't yeh. But that's such a cliche, isn't it
Speaker 1: When someone says, how did you know such and such
Speaker 1: and then they say, oh, you must have mentioned it?
Speaker 1: Such a cliche h. But yeah, yeah. So he starts
Speaker 1: more directly questioning her, confronting her about this footage.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: She seems to get flustered, and she rather importantly opens
Speaker 1: the window.
Speaker 2: M hm and wants to make a drink.
Speaker 1: Yes. So she claims that she was hired to transcribe
Speaker 1: footage of Felix to make sure that he wasn't a
Speaker 1: threat to this Dmitri Yes, because of his connection.
Speaker 2: So she was initially employed by the Rivals as far
Speaker 2: as Felix is concerned. Dmitrian co Do we believe that because,
Speaker 2: like I said about the phone call, is it intentional
Speaker 2: that the phone call directed him to the handbag, directed
Speaker 2: him to the USB drive, to the footage that she
Speaker 2: could then say that was why it was and get
Speaker 2: him on side and whatever. Or is that just footage
Speaker 2: that they've been surveiling him with and he's just happened
Speaker 2: to find it.
Speaker 1: Well, part of me feels like it must be deliberate,
Speaker 1: because if she was really that clever, she wouldn't just
Speaker 1: leave it lying around in her bag. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it doesn't really add anything to her plot,
Speaker 2: does it. No.
Speaker 1: I also quite like the idea of when he starts
Speaker 1: asking her that she has to do a lot of
Speaker 1: very quick thinking and she's able to come up with
Speaker 1: this story. Yeah, that's quite cool.
Speaker 2: She's very on it. Yeah, but with what she's planning,
Speaker 2: I suppose this has been in the pipeline for a while.
Speaker 2: She's yeah, coin with all the various permutation Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But so she basically implies that through the process
Speaker 1: of studying him and everything, she's kind of fall in
Speaker 1: love with the idea of him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like he kind of immediately goes along with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean she tries to leave, but yeah, he
Speaker 1: stops her.
Speaker 2: She probably like bluffs him into this like that she's
Speaker 2: about to go like, well are you going to stop me?
Speaker 2: Without saying it's such make him think it's his idea
Speaker 2: that she's staying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very clever. Yeah, they do a lot of
Speaker 1: this manipulation stuff in this show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's so subtly done but works so well.
Speaker 1: It's genius to make a program that you get so
Speaker 1: much from it on a rewatch, Yes, because it's just,
Speaker 1: you know, a whole extra layer of enjoyment, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do work so well on the second watch,
Speaker 2: pretty much all of them. Yeah, because there's so much
Speaker 2: more to spot when you really know what's going on.
Speaker 2: How many people will rewatch? And I don't know the
Speaker 2: casual viewers, but yeah, for the fans it's it's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, they I've written down begin relations Grandma
Speaker 1: and they have the wonderful falling through the gap between
Speaker 1: the twin Beths is.
Speaker 2: So good, it's so believable. I almost it's not intentionally,
Speaker 2: it was just an outtake that just happened, and they
Speaker 2: kept in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, humor and laughter is such a great
Speaker 1: bonding thing, and it makes it so tragic how it
Speaker 1: goes in about two minutes time, you know, for him,
Speaker 1: like he's got this, he thinks he's found this lovely connection.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So whoops, she spills some water. It's not water,
Speaker 1: is it.
Speaker 2: No, whatever drink she's been making goes all over the floor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and oh, I forgot to mention earlier. Right at
Speaker 1: the beginning, when he opens the drawer in the bedside table, Yes,
Speaker 1: Chekhov's hair dryer.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's vaguely shaped like a gun at camps.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so she asked him to get that.
Speaker 2: Get the hair dry We're just going to stand over
Speaker 2: this and try and dry out an entire glass worth
Speaker 2: of stuff out of the carpet. Apparently seems a bit
Speaker 2: of a stretch, but yeah, we'll let her off with it.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so she desperately wants him to open the
Speaker 2: curtains because she can't see what's going on in the corner.
Speaker 1: It's also orchestrated.
Speaker 2: She throws over the hairdryer to him to catch this,
Speaker 2: and he stands there chouting his wife's name, waving a
Speaker 2: hair dryer as you.
Speaker 1: Do, and Iris turns m she completely drops her character.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and poor or Felix gets shot. So yeah, the
Speaker 2: whole the whole episode has been orchestrated by not Iris
Speaker 2: as a staged assassination attempt, well not attempt, just outright
Speaker 2: assassination where Felix will be the fall guy for it
Speaker 2: and he has no idea at any given point in this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, we were just saying about you know,
Speaker 1: she'll she'll have so many different options and stuff. But
Speaker 1: it is very lucky how she manages to get in
Speaker 1: to the window with the hair dryer at the exact
Speaker 1: right moment.
Speaker 2: Another good thing. And to rewatch you do notice her
Speaker 2: checking her watch a lot. Yeah, she's always looking at
Speaker 2: what time it is. And then they're all coordinated with
Speaker 2: the man next door that's actually shot him. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: we'll clean up, we'll get rid of the glass that
Speaker 2: she's drank out of. We've conveniently got him some alcol
Speaker 2: in his system and some alcohol tips around to make
Speaker 2: him look like he was suspicious. He's got a notepad
Speaker 2: of what they've been saying. He's got binoculars. Yeah, look good, done,
Speaker 2: look good for Felix.
Speaker 1: No, they've done it expertly.
Speaker 2: And then we find out that, yeah, it's the government
Speaker 2: in government has done all of this as well. It's
Speaker 2: come right from the government. It's not just someone doesn't
Speaker 2: like him and promised. Muller's just worried about more bodily
Speaker 2: fluids all over his carpet. Yes, I love the ending
Speaker 2: of this. I think it's so it's so good and
Speaker 2: how quickly it changes. Yeah, and you realize everything just
Speaker 2: drops away in a matter of seconds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the last.
Speaker 2: Sort of minute and a half is an entirely different episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel so sorry for Felix.
Speaker 2: He is a creep, though, We've got to remember, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he is a creep, but to die and yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean he has a creep, but it's he he's a creep.
Speaker 1: He is a creep, but he it feels like he
Speaker 1: has a chance of redemption or a chance of something better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah he's a creep, but he's only because
Speaker 2: he's like he's struggling with Shark and all of that
Speaker 2: kind of thing of going through this breakup. But that
Speaker 2: he wasn't.
Speaker 1: Little Dylan loses his dad Mmm.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she never thought of that. Yeah, and I
Speaker 2: don't imagine that's going to do anything positive for Brenda's career.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, because.
Speaker 2: Presumer she's going to get questioned and think that she
Speaker 2: was part of the plan as well, because she hasn't
Speaker 2: been working with him long, so she'll be a prime
Speaker 2: suspect for orchestrating this. The drama drama, drama drama.
Speaker 1: So when we see quote unquoite Iris at the end, Yes,
Speaker 1: she's what is she some sort of aid I assume
Speaker 1: so politician?
Speaker 2: A generic government person. Yeah, really sure what they do,
Speaker 2: person in a suit that makes things happen.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's really weird seeing her as her real
Speaker 1: self when you've seen her as Iris this whole time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, timid, little little field.
Speaker 1: Mouse, just like she had she had a career as
Speaker 1: an actress that she could have followed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she plays it well. Yeah. I think if it
Speaker 2: weren't for the end of this episode, like and the twist,
Speaker 2: I think really sells this for me because it makes
Speaker 2: all of the the stuff that I'm not as interested
Speaker 2: in worthwhile. Yeah, that makes sense, all of the sort
Speaker 2: of character stuff I don't This is not said out
Speaker 2: like good characters, obviously, but where it's just about people
Speaker 2: chatting and stuff. I don't find that as interesting, but
Speaker 2: when it's it's so necessary for the twist. Hm, I
Speaker 2: can forgive it a lot more here.
Speaker 1: What are you going to give it? Out of nine?
Speaker 2: Oh? This is tough. I really don't know, as I say,
Speaker 2: if it weren't for the last minute and a half.
Speaker 2: But can I really give it a high score just
Speaker 2: for that bit? It's not what I particularly rewatch much.
Speaker 2: I'm really torn.
Speaker 1: Should I say what I want to give it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? You go for.
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to give it a five, right,
Speaker 1: which might seem low.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I do think it's good, but yeah, it's just it's
Speaker 1: just a feeling. It's just that's where I want to
Speaker 1: put it. I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm going to six. Okay, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: really enjoy it. I think it's very clever, but yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just not as rewatchable in the same way for me.
Speaker 1: Fair enough? Right?
Speaker 2: Oh, ask me here we go go. Did you spot
Speaker 2: the hair?
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I did. I'm pretty sure I did.
Speaker 1: It was very small, it was, and it was very
Speaker 1: hard to make out, but I think I got it.
Speaker 1: Go for it in the window of the opposite house.
Speaker 2: Oh, no, is.
Speaker 1: It not right near the beginning?
Speaker 2: So proud of you? No, Oh my god, I mean less,
Speaker 2: there's more than one.
Speaker 1: I swear there's something, you know, right at the beginning
Speaker 1: when he looks out's on his own, and there's like
Speaker 1: he looks at an upstairs window and then he goes
Speaker 1: down in the upstairs window at bottom, it looks like
Speaker 1: there's there's two ears.
Speaker 2: I mean, there might be something else, but it's I mean,
Speaker 2: that's not the one that I had.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I was so excited. Go on, where was it?
Speaker 2: Really? I'm sorry. It's also a very small one. It's
Speaker 2: not a physical hair this week?
Speaker 1: Was it in the picture on the wall?
Speaker 2: No? Not quite.
Speaker 1: I'll stop guessing. Just tell me.
Speaker 2: So. When Muller comes in and does the whole bathroom
Speaker 2: wardrobe situation and he checks on the hair products, it's
Speaker 2: a hair product. It's the logo on the bottle of shampoo.
Speaker 1: Wow, okay, that's very good. I need to go back
Speaker 1: and look at that. And I also need to go
Speaker 1: back and freeze frame that window. Yeah, and see what
Speaker 1: I was thinking, because I'm sure I saw it and
Speaker 1: I thought.
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, I'm so sorry. I was so exciting the
Speaker 2: way you were describing it, I was like, yes, it
Speaker 2: is small, it's hard to see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing. Because it was right near the beginning,
Speaker 1: I thought, there, I've got it. So I just switched
Speaker 1: off and didn't even think about it. But no, with
Speaker 1: it being hair products, that's that's very clever.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, boo, I was going to say on the
Speaker 2: hair products. But it reminds me of when I was
Speaker 2: on my holiday on the cruise that we had our
Speaker 2: cabin steward guy every day at least once, maybe twice
Speaker 2: a day, came in and refilled our bottle of hand soap.
Speaker 2: It never got more than about five percent down, but
Speaker 2: every single time you'd come in and top it up,
Speaker 2: we're expecting that one day it's going to be overflowing.
Speaker 2: The next day the sinkful, next the entire bathroom, open
Speaker 2: the door and it'd be like the shining, just like everywhere.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: It was very very insistent. I'm constantly filling up our soap.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: See how he wasn't called Eric as far as I
Speaker 2: can remember.
Speaker 1: What about the breakfast menu? Yeah, oh dear, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: definitely win on the hairs.
Speaker 2: There's a couple I knew because that one was distinct,
Speaker 2: and I remembered it from the podcast, right, same with
Speaker 2: last week's and the one with a little mask on.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yeah, I don't think I remember next week's
Speaker 2: all the week after, and both of those could be
Speaker 2: absolutely anywhere, so it's more of an even playing field
Speaker 2: next week. Okay, speaking of hairs, see if you can
Speaker 2: suppot us from this week, we will tell you where
Speaker 2: it was next.
Speaker 1: We will very quick one this week. But we've got
Speaker 1: a really cool comment on our Instagram which I just
Speaker 1: wanted to share because you remember a few weeks ago
Speaker 1: I shared a message we got from a listener in Turkey.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this one comes from a listener in Spain.
Speaker 1: It's from Inma if I'm pronouncing that right, But they say,
Speaker 1: I really love your podcast. It helps me improve my
Speaker 1: listening skills a lot. Huge inside Number nine fan here
Speaker 1: in Spain. Thanks for the great content.
Speaker 2: Ah, thank you.
Speaker 1: I just thought that was that was very cool.
Speaker 2: That's really sweet.
Speaker 1: Yes, it sounds like you're, you know, learning English or
Speaker 1: improving English. So I don't know if that means you're
Speaker 1: going to end up speaking with a half Yorkshire accent
Speaker 1: and a half Surrey accent.
Speaker 2: Team North Team south, which accent will be trying.
Speaker 1: To go yeah, yea and more importantly, will you be
Speaker 1: saying h.
Speaker 2: Or h oh? Thank you for that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for that?
Speaker 2: The country off the list. We're getting several. This is nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gaining them and then we're losing them by
Speaker 1: offending them.
Speaker 2: So well yeah, yes, I can't think of any Spanish
Speaker 2: characters in the series coming up that we're we'll be
Speaker 2: discussing so in safe.
Speaker 1: Good but yeah, so we're back next time with hurry
Speaker 1: up and wait.
Speaker 2: Indeed you will have to hurry up and wait for that.
Speaker 1: But until then it's time to close the door on
Speaker 1: number nine.
Speaker 2: But you never really leave, do you.
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