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<v Speaker 1>Welcome, dear listener, and thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Stephen and this is a podcast all about

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<v Speaker 2>the weird and wonderful world of the dark comedy anthology

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<v Speaker 2>series Inside number nine.

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<v Speaker 1>On each episode, we'll be diving into another one of

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Pemberton and Reese Shearsmith's twisted tales, putting it under

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<v Speaker 1>a lens and examining it within an inch of its life.

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<v Speaker 2>So make yourself comfortable, grab a cup of tea, and

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<v Speaker 2>join us for the ninth degree. Hello, Hello, Hello, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm okay. How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>You're not bad? A lot of people holiday this week

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<v Speaker 2>at work, so it's busy, busy.

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<v Speaker 1>No rest for the wicked.

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<v Speaker 2>How about with you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just all right. It's just ticking along, really,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. Yeah, nothing exciting to announce.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not really, No.

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<v Speaker 1>Life goes on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Shall we tell listeners about our hair from last week?

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<v Speaker 2>What was it last week?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? It was Love's Great Adventure. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's quite understandable, making a podcast about a show he loves,

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<v Speaker 1>great adventure, mystery romance. That's it done, Thank you. Look

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<v Speaker 1>out for another one this.

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<v Speaker 2>Week, as we discuss lip service. This week, Series six,

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<v Speaker 2>episode three, Felix is pretty certain his wife is up

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<v Speaker 2>to something with her boss Dmitri, so he decides to

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<v Speaker 2>hire someone to help prove things either one way or

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<v Speaker 2>the other. When professional lip reader Iris arrived with her

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<v Speaker 2>powerful boculars, the pair stak out in a hotel bedroom

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<v Speaker 2>and start to gather their evidence. Yeah that's about it, Yeah, thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think i'd forgotten the twist, to be honest, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so thinking back on it, when I think I said

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<v Speaker 1>to you last week, I'm not that excited about this week. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd completely forgotten the twist. So yeah, I mean it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's quite good.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I like it. I think if it weren't for

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<v Speaker 2>the twist, I really wouldn't be a fan, because, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>more a charactery thing is not my kind of cover

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<v Speaker 2>of tea. Yeah, but I think it's quite a fun one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's got some sweet moments in it and

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<v Speaker 1>some good comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. One of Race's roles, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely. So interestingly, our location is not the number nine.

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<v Speaker 2>To bait me into her in this debate.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I wasn't even thinking about that, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, isn't, is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really know what they were thinking. Well, but

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<v Speaker 2>did you notice that the hotel room number the.

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<v Speaker 1>Digits side up to nine. And you've trained me now

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<v Speaker 1>anytime I see a number, I'm like, yeah, just check

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<v Speaker 1>if the digits side up to nine. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the fire alarm. It's happening at three fifteen tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well done, well done, very clever. I suppose the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is that this late into the into the show,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're sort of having to experimental look bit with

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<v Speaker 1>them their number nine s which is which is cool?

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<v Speaker 1>I think? Yeah, you know, because you could you could

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<v Speaker 1>argue that obviously, you know, their attention is so focused

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<v Speaker 1>on what's going on inside number nine.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that works.

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<v Speaker 1>But we are in this rather grossy hotel room.

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<v Speaker 2>Not best, is it?

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<v Speaker 1>I would say it's I mean, it might be grotty,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's quite spacious.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty big, yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 1>A lovely walk in wardrobe type thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with real hangers, like they trust you with hangers

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<v Speaker 2>in that place.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a fallen bathroom with a shower and a bath

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<v Speaker 2>and everything like it's not some pokey little cupboard. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and crucially in an adjoining room as well, Yes, which will

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<v Speaker 2>become relevant later.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was watching this first night because the music

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<v Speaker 2>is quite serious sounding, and LA like, it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be one of those serious episodes and Steve

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<v Speaker 2>starts crying into a into a pillow. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we see the porn and we're like, oh, maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>isn't as serious as you might think it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, talking about the music, the music made me laugh

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<v Speaker 1>in this episode because there's this there's this piano theme

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<v Speaker 1>that he's written for it, and that's therese same like

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<v Speaker 1>eight bars or whatever of piano music just keep playing

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<v Speaker 1>but in slightly different keys throughout the episode, and it

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<v Speaker 1>just as a musician, it's just amusing. It's like he's

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<v Speaker 1>just gone transpose that into that'll do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's hard Foreign a Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>So Yeah, Steve's playing Felix.

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<v Speaker 2>Felix Hughes generic boring man. Yeah, apparently this week.

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<v Speaker 1>He's quite good at those kind of roles. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, like you say, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>you think it's quite serious. You think he might have

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<v Speaker 1>come to end his life or something.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be all sorts of horrible things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but yes, it's quite unsavory.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jesus Christ or whatever he says he finds it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Oh, it's just delightful, isn't it. Anyway, go.

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<v Speaker 2>To the local hedges for that kind of material, don't you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why it's normally Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So he gets rid of.

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<v Speaker 2>It, yeah, with with like tongues.

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<v Speaker 1>And well it's a couple of pencils, isn't it, which

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<v Speaker 1>he then later on in the episode he puts in

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<v Speaker 1>his mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>So, oh yeah he does.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think he must have forgotten what he'd been

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<v Speaker 1>using them for earlier. Charming.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, then we get the best character of the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Muller. Mister Muller, Eric Muller. Who I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>almost literally just a Nazi, isn't he?

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty much?

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<v Speaker 1>Not to put too fine a points on.

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<v Speaker 2>It, Yeah, yeah, now you mentioned it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, let me just preface this by saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I love German people. Yeah, I know a few German

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<v Speaker 1>people and they're all really lovely, and I love the

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<v Speaker 1>German accent and the German language. So I'm not just saying,

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<v Speaker 1>oh he's German, there is a Nazi, but yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>way he plays it is so specifically like that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of Nazi doctor or comman dance or something in a camp.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he really is false stereotype, and it's like

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<v Speaker 2>this character could be absolutely nothing, like he's not a

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<v Speaker 2>really important character whatsoever. And Reese has gone, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I will run with this. There are no small parts

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<v Speaker 2>and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but yeah, I mean the mustache and the glasses.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so so stereotypical out of a World War two movie,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't he. The accent is brilliant as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the phrasing when.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, I don't need to check the sell by

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<v Speaker 1>days on your lordest Cara Las biscuits, so specific and

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<v Speaker 1>everything's so sort of calm, and he.

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<v Speaker 2>Just cannot leave him alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He comes in about five times within the space of

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<v Speaker 2>train two minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very faulty towers. Yea, yeah, yeah, it's that farcical

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<v Speaker 2>If Buzzer was German, this would be.

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<v Speaker 1>Well literally yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, because he has

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<v Speaker 1>lots of buzzers, lots of things about trying to come

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<v Speaker 1>into rooms to watch people who shouldn't be in there

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. Doesn't he Yeah, yeah, we'll get we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to it in a bit. But it's a great scene

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<v Speaker 1>when he comes in trying to find her. Yeah, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good in you know what's got some quite depressing

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<v Speaker 1>and dark, but it's in this episode. It's nice to

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<v Speaker 1>have comic relief to balance it. Yea, So definitely it's

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<v Speaker 1>nice having him come in.

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<v Speaker 2>He's brilliant, he's great.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, it's like, even when he's saying, what, on

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<v Speaker 1>the face of it is quite a nice thing about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he offers to book him a table at

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<v Speaker 1>the restaurant and he says no, thank you, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is no consequence. He says, it's such a nice thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But he says it's so threateningly, Yeah, I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lax and stay making nice. Definitely. Yeah, it's so strange.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like that thing of have a good day is nice,

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy your next twenty four hours of life is quite threatening. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why he's so suspicious of this man. No,

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<v Speaker 1>is he like this with every guest.

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<v Speaker 2>Or well I had this, I have a theory for

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<v Speaker 2>later about that. Oh okay, so I go with it now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I'm wondering. I thought next door it's presumably

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<v Speaker 2>calling reception saying the hearing all this stuff, so that

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<v Speaker 2>when the police inevitably call later, Muller will go, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>he was definitely on his own. No one was involved,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I've checked that room thoroughly several times. Oh, I see, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's no no one else is going to get

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<v Speaker 2>the blame for it. It's going to get so depended on him.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be handy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So it's much more of an opening shotcase for

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<v Speaker 2>the government and well, the police and everything. Yeah, would

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<v Speaker 2>be my guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, give them a witness for the witness for there

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<v Speaker 1>being no one else.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, And Felix gets more and more stressed every

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<v Speaker 2>time he's there, Like he'll be like telling the police,

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<v Speaker 2>guy who's getting more and more worked up every time

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<v Speaker 2>I saw in them. Yeah, I think mother won't remotely

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<v Speaker 2>think that's his fault.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, when clearly it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Mother won't stop showing up. That's caused me and more

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<v Speaker 2>and more bissed up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So we meet Iris well quote unquote Iris. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's everyone name probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Not, probably not wonderful Sean Cliffords. Yes, she's brilliant, she's

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<v Speaker 2>so funny. I keep sort of vaguely mixing her up

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<v Speaker 2>with the woman from Death being not proud. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to say that with the funny mouth. They're

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<v Speaker 2>so similar.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that I wrote down quirky, very emily, Yeah, very

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<v Speaker 1>similar performance. But again, it's very clever when you when

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<v Speaker 1>you realize at the end that she's been doing this

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<v Speaker 1>as a performance the whole time. Yeah, she's been putting

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<v Speaker 1>this character on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a it's an extreme character. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of sad at the end though, when you

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<v Speaker 1>realize it wasn't real because she she was nice, and

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<v Speaker 1>she is nice. They could have had something mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, poor Felix gets sucked in so quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, speaking of which, the jokes about her being a prostitute,

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<v Speaker 1>because again, this is you know, we're watching it for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time. This woman turns up and you know

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<v Speaker 1>she could well.

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<v Speaker 2>Be you could you could. It's a bold, like icebreaking

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Yeah, and I don't. I mean, I'm not that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have any problem believing that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>No, neither do I.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes me think back to all the times I might

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've steamed a shirt over a kettle before

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, But the thing is, the tea and coffee that

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<v Speaker 1>which is not good, and then it's just substandard. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>You know. That's the other thing. I know. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>obviously not nice, but if someone has been cleaning their

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<v Speaker 2>pants in there or whatever, like, at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, but I don't like the idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not really advocating.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea of it. Yeah, I'm not sure what's worse,

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<v Speaker 1>the peeing in it or the underwear. I mean, they're

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<v Speaker 1>probab they're both as bad as each other. Really, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, it makes me think next time I go

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<v Speaker 2>Like, obviously I don't condone it, but I can vague

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<v Speaker 2>understand the washing your pants in it. Why would you

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<v Speaker 1>Because people are weird.

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<v Speaker 2>People are just weirdn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're like, oh, do you know what I could do?

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<v Speaker 1>That would be a laugh, wouldn't it? Why? And then

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<v Speaker 2>People are so strange.

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<v Speaker 1>People are so that. Yeah, people are very strange.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. AnyWho, So we find out that Iris is actually

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<v Speaker 2>there to be a lip reader for felix Y the

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<v Speaker 2>spy on his were as far as we're aware, partner. Yeah, Brenda,

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<v Speaker 2>I can never take anyone seriously called Brenda. I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 2>if you're called Brenda.

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<v Speaker 1>Listeners inherently funny names. And today's message that I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to read out comes from Brenda.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome, Brenda, hello and goodbye.

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<v Speaker 1>I like this idea of a professional lip reader that

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<v Speaker 1>you can hire. Yeah, presumably it must exist.

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<v Speaker 2>I assume. So, yeah, like they do get them on

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<v Speaker 2>like you see them in news and stuff when you

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<v Speaker 2>know you'll see I don't know them chatting on the

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<v Speaker 2>balcony at Buckingham Palace and someone like lip readers have

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<v Speaker 2>said they're saying X, Y and Z, like, yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>must they must exist. It's a really morally dubious profession.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, it's a bit like a sort of private

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<v Speaker 1>investigator type thing that you could just hire.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's yes, questionable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's very like well put across like the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing of oh, you know, we can't guarantee this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this amount of accuracy and blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's yeah, especially from live, which is quite a

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I can understand. She said she normally does

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<v Speaker 2>it for like court stuff from CCTV and that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing. That makes more sense. But actually doing it

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<v Speaker 2>live spying on someone with binoculars just feel so icky. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it does, especially if you think they're having an affair.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just inherently well yeah, yeah, let's hope the blinds

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<v Speaker 1>do get drawn. But yes, you get quite a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of humor from her misreadings of things. Yeah, the piano, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's trying to identify if it's who it is,

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<v Speaker 2>if this is the right, if he's got the partner,

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<v Speaker 2>And Felix says something like he saw her in that

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<v Speaker 2>this morning, and we obviously assume that that was at home,

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<v Speaker 2>but presumably he's been spying on her as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Yeah, I never twigged that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he must be just like lurking in the bushes

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a bit creepy, isn't he.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, have a nice shout out for Dorothy Perkins. She

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't get much love, blessing. They're not even that old,

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<v Speaker 2>are they, Like, I'm sure that's where Nana's party dress

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<v Speaker 2>came from. Like it's all old lady clothes, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>The name rings a bell see it on the high street.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I thought it sounded like a funny name

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<v Speaker 1>for him to have got it from. As you like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it wasn't very special. So his wife, or

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<v Speaker 1>we think is his wife is like a press secretary.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, with this Dmitriy Novak, who's some she describing as

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<v Speaker 2>political agitator. That's right, with very nice hair apparently by

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<v Speaker 2>all accounts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's funny when she says about you know, your

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<v Speaker 1>wife has a very good taste.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, poor poor little Felix, do you mean him on me?

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<v Speaker 1>She's like both different ways. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's wanting to find out whether she's having an

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<v Speaker 2>affair with this Dimitri guy. Yeah, and it's hoping that

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<v Speaker 2>she isn't. Then he has a chance, and he's gone

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<v Speaker 2>to the lengths of hiring a lip reader, which it's

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<v Speaker 2>just a bit weird, but we'll get more into that later.

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<v Speaker 2>And she starts doing her job, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>poor Phelix can really handle it, honey. No, he thought

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<v Speaker 2>this would be a great idea, but when it actually

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<v Speaker 2>comes down to.

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<v Speaker 1>It, Yeah, I mean it must be awful to sit through. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>fair enough if you choose to eavesdrop and what you

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be eavesdropping on. But then you know it's your

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<v Speaker 1>own fault, really, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this where we get the return of the wonderful Miller?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>The fascicle hiding into the bathroom, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Under in the cupboard, and I've got standards are going

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<v Speaker 2>the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's very Emily, and she's like, nah.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go in the bathroom, Emily. And what's her face,

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<v Speaker 2>Shelley Henderson. Is it to make a great little three

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<v Speaker 2>actual yeah, like triplets?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, oh that would be great. Make it happen, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this this scene is so faulty Towers, it really is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the poor pretense of bringing the breakfast menus. If

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<v Speaker 1>there's such a rubbish excuse to come in and check

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<v Speaker 1>the room, Yeah, the breakfast menu and noticed you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have one?

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<v Speaker 2>How will you live without one?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And like he's not said anything at the time, so

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<v Speaker 2>that he can go away and come back and surprise

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<v Speaker 2>the men at some moment with this information.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fantastic. I mean, are we going to call out the.

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<v Speaker 2>Price thirty one ninety nine or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty one ninety nine and a seven pound trade charge? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you wish to say, in your room. And Felix

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<v Speaker 1>is just like, yes, that all sounds very reasonable. What

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<v Speaker 1>he's used just trying to get rid of him. It

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<v Speaker 1>really doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It does not for that. If there rooms are this

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<v Speaker 2>bright and lovely and exciting, then I imagine the breakfast

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<v Speaker 2>will be equally lovely and exciting. Yeah, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>know it's London prices, but still thirty too quick for

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<v Speaker 2>a breakfast? Yeah, what are you getting? And I imagine

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<v Speaker 2>Mula's been at reception and watched Emily come in, not Emily.

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<v Speaker 1>Irish come in, yeah, or she might be called Emily

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<v Speaker 1>for all we know.

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<v Speaker 2>And probably followed her at a distance upstairs to see

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<v Speaker 2>I'll watch on the CCTV to see where she went.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you maybe had to rack his brains and gone, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>there wasn't a breakfast what do you?

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<v Speaker 1>What does she say when she turns up at reception?

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<v Speaker 1>Like who is she? Because if you're not allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>have people in your.

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<v Speaker 2>Room, presumably just walk with intent to the lift. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's the kind of person that probably is on

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<v Speaker 2>shift twenty four to seven and knows every single person

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<v Speaker 2>in every single room. So I was remembered from earlier

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<v Speaker 2>that there wasn't a breakfast menu, and he's taking his chance.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that he's just scrambled around to try and

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<v Speaker 1>find a breakfast menu so you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Take out you have one?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just I can't stop thinking of Basil and like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the game's up, but a game pie up there,

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<v Speaker 1>and the one I love here is he's so funny

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<v Speaker 1>when he's so sinister and he's like everything else in

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<v Speaker 1>order you don't need any more cartannis.

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<v Speaker 2>It's this big moment he's about to bust them.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that was so funny, comedy genius.

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<v Speaker 2>But the best line, No, the best line is the

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<v Speaker 2>next one.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the next one?

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<v Speaker 2>When you can't get in to the bathroom because locked itself?

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<v Speaker 1>But the skeleton.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>It is it really is. Yes, So a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago we offended all our Italian listeners and now

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be offending all our German listeners. Work

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<v Speaker 1>way around Europe for sorry, much like Hitler did.

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<v Speaker 2>I kept that joke inside.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't help it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he has the key of the skeleton, so he

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<v Speaker 2>breaks into the in the bathroom and yeah, it's excited

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<v Speaker 2>because there's a bath curtain up so she must be

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<v Speaker 2>hiding there. Oh yeah, yeah, we have like a Scooby

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<v Speaker 2>Doo style. We'll sneak around to a corner and.

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<v Speaker 1>How he doesn't see her out of his proper vision,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, or like the mirror which must be

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<v Speaker 1>right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Or the noise or whatever. Yea, even someone walking quietly

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<v Speaker 2>if there are a couple of feet away from you going.

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<v Speaker 1>To sense them. Yeah, yeah, but no, he.

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<v Speaker 2>Has no spidy senses. Yeah, she seekstuff and he gets

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<v Speaker 2>away with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Who We get a nice bit there after. He goes

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<v Speaker 1>with Iris and Felix just like joking together, joking about him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice sort of chemistry. Yeah, and it's like very much

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<v Speaker 1>like a burgeoning thing. M h, it's very sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>It is sweet. Yeah, Like if they were both the

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<v Speaker 2>real people they claim to pretend to be, they probably

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<v Speaker 2>actually would work quite well together exactly. Yeah, they're both

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<v Speaker 2>quite similar, but she's got a bit more of a

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<v Speaker 2>fun side that would make him more fun than yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I don't imagine them she's anything like Brenda.

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<v Speaker 2>No, presumably Brenda's working NPR. She's probably quite outspoken and

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<v Speaker 2>outgoing and.

429
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm very put together and yeah.

430
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<v Speaker 2>Whereas Iris is much more timid than Yeah.

431
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<v Speaker 1>And he asks her a bit about her personal life,

432
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<v Speaker 1>and she uses that cringey phrase self partner, sorry but

433
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<v Speaker 1>it is cringey.

434
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<v Speaker 2>It's awful.

435
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<v Speaker 1>Single is perfectly fine to say yes, yes.

436
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And she just goes off and on and on

437
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<v Speaker 2>about how she's happy. She's happy, she's happy. What we're

438
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<v Speaker 2>talking about playing the role quite well, m I.

439
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<v Speaker 1>Think it's around here. Sometimes he says to her, you're

440
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<v Speaker 1>obviously someone who's never been in love, and she has

441
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<v Speaker 1>this moment where there's this look on her face, and

442
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<v Speaker 1>obviously you know. There are multiple twists as it goes along,

443
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<v Speaker 1>But considering where it all ends up, I'm a bit

444
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<v Speaker 1>confused as to what that's supposed to be.

445
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, whether that was meant to mean anything, Yeah, I

446
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<v Speaker 2>guess there's plenty of things it could have meant that

447
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<v Speaker 2>just didn't come into the story. But it makes her

448
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<v Speaker 2>a more rounded character. Yeah, to imply things, Yeah.

449
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<v Speaker 1>I mean this person that she really is that we

450
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<v Speaker 1>find out the end, she presumably has a life as well, so.

451
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<v Speaker 2>Relevant to Yeah, exactly. I know we always say about

452
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<v Speaker 2>twists have to work both ways, but there's bits like

453
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<v Speaker 2>this where you can throw in stuff that makes you

454
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<v Speaker 2>question what's going on that when the reveal happens, don't

455
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<v Speaker 2>counteract it, but they don't add to it either way.

456
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<v Speaker 2>Like it still works. It's just there's something we don't

457
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<v Speaker 2>know about this character still. Yeah, Yeah, that's fine. There's

458
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<v Speaker 2>some interesting camera angles I don't know how can you.

459
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know anything about cameras, But you had Felix

460
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<v Speaker 2>on the bed and Iris up at the window, and

461
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<v Speaker 2>both of them weren't fully in focus, oh right, even

462
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<v Speaker 2>though one of them shouldn't have been. Yeah, and I

463
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<v Speaker 2>didn't know if it was green screen or whether you

464
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<v Speaker 2>can have like is a split focus lens of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I've heard about that. I think there

466
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<v Speaker 1>is a way of doing it, but it's quite unnatural,

467
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<v Speaker 1>I think you.

468
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it felt weird when I noticed it. Yeah, she's

469
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<v Speaker 2>got a bit of a blur around the edge of

470
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<v Speaker 2>her and the rooms are all out of focus. But

471
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<v Speaker 2>both of those two are in focus, even though there

472
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<v Speaker 2>are different distances. Yeah, and I couldn't stop noticing it

473
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<v Speaker 2>once i'd seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>To be fair, I think if if you're having that

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<v Speaker 1>one shot with her in the foreground him in the

476
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<v Speaker 1>background and they're talking to each other and be a

477
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<v Speaker 1>bit distracting, to sort of keep keep changing focus.

478
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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, she goes back to lip reading what's

479
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<v Speaker 2>going on and find out Brenda's making a phone call

480
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<v Speaker 2>to Max. This is a great scene. It's such a

481
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<v Speaker 2>clever way to do what's someone on the other end

482
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<v Speaker 2>of the phone saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very clever. Yeah, I'm very I was very impressed

484
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<v Speaker 1>by that.

485
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<v Speaker 2>So clever, you wouldn't think there's more ways of doing

486
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<v Speaker 2>that than has been done.

487
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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I feel like it's not quite realistic. No,

488
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<v Speaker 1>in that she would need surely a second or two

489
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<v Speaker 1>to delay. Yeah, but yeah, we'll overlook that. Yeah, yeah,

490
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<v Speaker 1>it's very clever.

491
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so good. So yeah, you get Iris essentially speaking

492
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<v Speaker 2>for Brenda and filling in her side of the conversation

493
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<v Speaker 2>almost perfectly. Great. How Felix will just turn around every

494
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<v Speaker 2>now and then and go no, it was this like

495
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<v Speaker 2>and correct.

496
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<v Speaker 1>Her as if that matters.

497
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<v Speaker 2>Now, I had interesting thought here. So Iris obviously isn't

498
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<v Speaker 2>really Iris, and she's playing a part here. So presumably

499
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<v Speaker 2>unless one of not Iris's random skills is lip reading,

500
00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:29.480
<v Speaker 2>as she actually isn't a lip reader. So I'm wondering

501
00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:32.079
<v Speaker 2>whether the room is bugged and she's pretending to be

502
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<v Speaker 2>lip reading.

503
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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that would make sense because yeah, I hadn't

504
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<v Speaker 1>thought of that, But yet, how can she possibly do

505
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<v Speaker 1>that unless she does have that skill?

506
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and she's presumably then having to fake slip ups

507
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<v Speaker 2>because one of my criticisms not Christians, but vague criticisms

508
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<v Speaker 2>was going to be some of these slip ups wouldn't

509
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<v Speaker 2>really work, Like Max and my ex are to one's

510
00:24:54.039 --> 00:24:56.559
<v Speaker 2>one syllable ones too the mouth. You'd be able to

511
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<v Speaker 2>tell the difference, surely if she's that good.

512
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<v Speaker 1>I suppose. But then people don't always speak clearly true,

513
00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:05.119
<v Speaker 1>people slur stuff together.

514
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<v Speaker 2>But some of these, some of these words don't feel

515
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<v Speaker 2>like they should have been missed. Of all the words

516
00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:12.240
<v Speaker 2>she gets wrong, yeah, it's not quite. It's it's words

517
00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:14.400
<v Speaker 2>that sound similar rather than the mouth is similar for

518
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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, that's a bit wrong. But then I'm

519
00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:21.279
<v Speaker 2>thinking if she's faking making mistakes, Yeah, she would do

520
00:25:21.319 --> 00:25:24.440
<v Speaker 2>it on that way round. Yeah, probably if she's thinking

521
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<v Speaker 2>on the fly. H just the odd one here and

522
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<v Speaker 2>there to make it believable.

523
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<v Speaker 1>M believable to everyone except you. Well, she can't pull

524
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<v Speaker 1>thell over your eyes.

525
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<v Speaker 2>I'd be filled in the moment. Yeah, hypedanticism wouldn't allow

526
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<v Speaker 2>it in really, Yeah, when I watched like three times

527
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<v Speaker 2>in a row. But yeah, within the within this chat,

528
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<v Speaker 2>we find out that they're not actually together anymore. They've

529
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<v Speaker 2>broken up. It's been I think three months. Did they say,

530
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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, she's getting a restraining order against poor or Felix.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not surprised. Yeah, you can't accept it, No, that

532
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:02.440
<v Speaker 1>it's over.

533
00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:04.839
<v Speaker 2>They've been together eight years. I think they've got a

534
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<v Speaker 2>three year old son, like.

535
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's tricky.

536
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not that I'm condoning what he's doing, but no,

537
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<v Speaker 2>you can understand why it's hitting him hard. And he

538
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<v Speaker 2>does deserve a penis.

539
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<v Speaker 1>He does, don't we all. Isn't there a film where

540
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<v Speaker 1>that's a repeated joke? I'm sure I remember what she's

541
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<v Speaker 1>where someone with a French accent or something is like,

542
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<v Speaker 1>you have to have a penis in this world. If

543
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<v Speaker 1>you don't have a penis, you have nothing.

544
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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember what it's from. It's from. Yeah, and

545
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<v Speaker 2>we find out that Felix has been on dad Chat

546
00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:51.960
<v Speaker 2>talking to other sad men. Yes, and it's been recommended

547
00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:57.240
<v Speaker 2>iris's services to find out what's really going on. That

548
00:26:57.519 --> 00:26:59.319
<v Speaker 2>chat sounds so believable.

549
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<v Speaker 1>Oh it does. Yeah, and it would be sad men

550
00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:03.799
<v Speaker 1>instead of competitive women.

551
00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Women like Mum's Net.

552
00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:06.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

553
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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever seen what's it called the doll Men's

554
00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Club online? And they all just post random stupid things

555
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.160
<v Speaker 2>that you wouldn't notice. But it's just like things that

556
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<v Speaker 2>are interesting to dull people.

557
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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

558
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<v Speaker 2>And they'll always take a photo of a thing and

559
00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:25.559
<v Speaker 2>they always put a banana with it against it for reference, Okay,

560
00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:28.240
<v Speaker 2>for like scale. It is just this running joke that

561
00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:30.759
<v Speaker 2>there's always a banana for reference, okay, for like scale

562
00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:32.400
<v Speaker 2>of how big a thing is, even if it's utterly

563
00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:34.440
<v Speaker 2>irrelevant to the thing that they're doing. And it'd be

564
00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:37.119
<v Speaker 2>like Dave thirty two and a half, I highly recommend.

565
00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:44.920
<v Speaker 2>They're very funny sounds it. I think I'll send you some, Okay, But.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like how the episode sort of leading you

567
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<v Speaker 1>in this direction of thinking that it's a romance between them, yeah,

568
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:54.200
<v Speaker 1>and that they're you know, they're two potentially sad people

569
00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:56.599
<v Speaker 1>that have sort of found each other. Yeah, and they

570
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<v Speaker 1>have this lovely connection. Do It's a shame that it

571
00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:03.920
<v Speaker 1>gets torn away from you. So yeah, So they're about

572
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:06.880
<v Speaker 1>to kiss when they're interrupted by Mueller again.

573
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he's excited the prospect of a fourth star if

574
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<v Speaker 2>he gets to try to press and all the way.

575
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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe that. I can't believe they've even got three.

576
00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:19.839
<v Speaker 2>But then size of the rooms will count for lots.

577
00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:22.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing, well, I guess yeah. Maybe he's in the

578
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:25.319
<v Speaker 2>undeveloped wing, maybe the maybe that's just the old bit

579
00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:27.880
<v Speaker 2>that looks out of the street. Maybe the side looks

580
00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:29.440
<v Speaker 2>out of the sea or something nice. I don't know.

581
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:31.960
<v Speaker 2>The hell Yeah?

582
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<v Speaker 1>But also like where they're in, like West London, aren't

583
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<v Speaker 1>they like presumably quite judging by the house across the

584
00:28:39.319 --> 00:28:42.160
<v Speaker 1>road is quite an upmarket area, those.

585
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:44.359
<v Speaker 2>Ones with those giant pillars with the numbers written on, Yeah,

586
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:45.160
<v Speaker 2>aren't they? Yeah?

587
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:47.200
<v Speaker 1>And then yeah, so right across the road is this

588
00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:50.759
<v Speaker 1>horrible CD run down hotels a bit strange.

589
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:54.039
<v Speaker 2>It probably was like a beautiful hotel in like the

590
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<v Speaker 2>nineteen twenties m hm, or the Victorian times, and now

591
00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:01.039
<v Speaker 2>it's just gotten slowly but surely dropped in quality to

592
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:05.000
<v Speaker 2>the point where it's like they've not redecorated since forty three.

593
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<v Speaker 1>What's your opinion on irregardless?

594
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Well? I looked it up. But it's a real word,

595
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:12.160
<v Speaker 2>but it doesn't feel like it should be.

596
00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>It's a real this is right, okay, Oh, here we go.

597
00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:18.759
<v Speaker 2>It's more pedantry.

598
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:21.559
<v Speaker 1>It's a real word in as much as anything is

599
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:24.599
<v Speaker 1>a word. If people use it, which is literally where

600
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:28.759
<v Speaker 1>words come from at the end of the day. Really well, yeah,

601
00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:31.039
<v Speaker 1>but you know, I struggle with this because all my

602
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:34.519
<v Speaker 1>life I've grown up wanting to be correct about things.

603
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:41.559
<v Speaker 1>Shot horror, I know. And you know, as I've grown older,

604
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I've come to understand that, you know, there isn't necessarily

605
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<v Speaker 1>a correct way of things, and that so much of language,

606
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:50.839
<v Speaker 1>especially is just consensus, isn't it. It's just that's how

607
00:29:50.920 --> 00:29:54.680
<v Speaker 1>language develops and evolves. This is a massive tangent. So

608
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<v Speaker 1>I get that there's flexibility and that if people start

609
00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:01.119
<v Speaker 1>using a word, it becomes a word. But it's just clunky,

610
00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:04.599
<v Speaker 1>isn't it. It's just it's got the two negative, yeah,

611
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:06.880
<v Speaker 1>negative prefix and suffix, and it's just.

612
00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:10.279
<v Speaker 2>What would Susie Dent say if you're listening.

613
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<v Speaker 1>Susi Dent right, Well, no, I'll tell you what she says,

614
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:16.359
<v Speaker 1>because okay, what I was saying about, you know, wanting

615
00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>things to be the right way, and like, there's there's

616
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<v Speaker 1>prescriptive ways of looking at language versus descriptive, and Susan

617
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:25.799
<v Speaker 1>Dentz always said, as a lexicographer and like a dictionary

618
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:28.640
<v Speaker 1>writer and stuff, what you do is is descriptive you

619
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<v Speaker 1>look at how words are being used by people and

620
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<v Speaker 1>you record it. Yeah, it's not a question of this

621
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<v Speaker 1>is correct. This is the manual for how to speak English,

622
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:39.880
<v Speaker 1>So it's more it's more observational.

623
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's that weird gray bit in between it being

624
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:46.839
<v Speaker 2>wrong in one context and it being used wrongly enough

625
00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:49.440
<v Speaker 2>that it now becomes right. Exactly when it stops being

626
00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:50.559
<v Speaker 2>wrong and it starts being right.

627
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:54.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like the letter H. Lots of people say

628
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<v Speaker 1>H and other people say H. And I've always grown

629
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<v Speaker 1>up saying H and believe that to be correct, right,

630
00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:05.839
<v Speaker 1>And it always irritates me when people say H H.

631
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:11.119
<v Speaker 1>I know I've heard you say it. I've been like, okay,

632
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:13.000
<v Speaker 1>but it sounds like it should be the other way

633
00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>around for north south, Like it's almost dropping the But

634
00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:22.720
<v Speaker 1>according to Susi dain I used to listen to her podcast,

635
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>she used to do words. According to her, H used

636
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.039
<v Speaker 1>to be correct. I think I can't remember now, but

637
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<v Speaker 1>it basically it comes in cycles. So basically, at one

638
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:36.759
<v Speaker 1>time H was correct, and then H became correct, and

639
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:38.839
<v Speaker 1>now people are starting to say H again and so

640
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:42.759
<v Speaker 1>that's becoming more. Yeah, basically, it's just however people are

641
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:46.119
<v Speaker 1>using the words at the time. That was a massive tangent.

642
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:47.880
<v Speaker 1>But it's something I think about a lot.

643
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:51.359
<v Speaker 2>But there's certain things you can say are wrong. But

644
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:53.240
<v Speaker 2>at what point, like how many times does someone have

645
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:57.000
<v Speaker 2>to say specifically before pacifically just becomes the word instead

646
00:31:57.000 --> 00:31:57.599
<v Speaker 2>of specifically?

647
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, because when there's a clear sort of root

648
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:04.240
<v Speaker 1>to it and someone's clearly using the wrong word, that's

649
00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:04.839
<v Speaker 1>clearly wrong.

650
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:07.759
<v Speaker 2>But if enough people say it clearly wrong, does it

651
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:08.640
<v Speaker 2>not just become no?

652
00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:11.559
<v Speaker 1>But no, but that will happen over if that happens,

653
00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:14.960
<v Speaker 1>because many words that we use today, that are considered

654
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:19.119
<v Speaker 1>standard words today, only exist because of people getting them

655
00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>wrong hundreds of years ago. Yeah, you know. And the

656
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:25.319
<v Speaker 1>reason why certain words are spelt so weirdly is because

657
00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:28.599
<v Speaker 1>people making mistakes hundreds of years ago. So you just

658
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:31.599
<v Speaker 1>have to accept that. Yeah, that's how we roll.

659
00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:35.440
<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed Dictionary Corner. That was fun.

660
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I know, I could post about that. I love words

661
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:39.640
<v Speaker 1>and things like that, and I.

662
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:43.119
<v Speaker 2>Find it fasten that genuinely find it fascinating. Yeah, where

663
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:44.200
<v Speaker 2>were we? What was going on?

664
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:48.319
<v Speaker 1>Well, Iris is hiding in the bathroom. Oh yes, she

665
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:51.440
<v Speaker 1>goes to the loo, and that gives Felix time to rather.

666
00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Cheekily have a rummage.

667
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:57.039
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so her phone buzzes and he glances at ith,

668
00:32:57.039 --> 00:33:01.119
<v Speaker 1>which I suppose is potentially just something you might naturally. Yeah,

669
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:03.559
<v Speaker 1>but then to actually get it out, look at it,

670
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:04.799
<v Speaker 1>and then go through her bag.

671
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Wow, Well we proved that he doesn't really care

672
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:12.400
<v Speaker 2>about invading people's privacy, clearly not. Yeah, do we reckon

673
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:16.039
<v Speaker 2>that phone buzz was intentional, like planted while she was

674
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:18.559
<v Speaker 2>away to make him go through her stuff. I don't

675
00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:21.839
<v Speaker 2>know how much of this plan is intentional, yeah, and

676
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:24.119
<v Speaker 2>how much is just a happy accident, Yeah, that she

677
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:24.799
<v Speaker 2>just runs with.

678
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:28.319
<v Speaker 1>It's a bit like you know, ones like misdirection and

679
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:30.680
<v Speaker 1>stuff where it's like things seemed to go a certain

680
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:34.160
<v Speaker 1>way and it's quite lucky. I think this is a

681
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:37.240
<v Speaker 1>case where she had an overall plan and then within

682
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:39.240
<v Speaker 1>that it was just you know, there were different options

683
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:41.240
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, as long as you get to the right

684
00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:42.759
<v Speaker 1>place at the end, it doesn't matter.

685
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:45.799
<v Speaker 2>The whole episode could have gone twenty different ways, ends

686
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:48.000
<v Speaker 2>up at the same place at the end. Yeah. So

687
00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:51.359
<v Speaker 2>he goes through her bag, finds a USB drive of

688
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:57.039
<v Speaker 2>surveillance footage of him outside. Yes, strange which is yeah,

689
00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:00.559
<v Speaker 2>pretty odd, but your hands all this When she comes back, then.

690
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:02.359
<v Speaker 1>He starts trying to subtly sort of question her.

691
00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:06.119
<v Speaker 2>Little things, like she didn't know the name of the manager,

692
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:09.440
<v Speaker 2>but she shouldn't have known, but did reference him by name.

693
00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:12.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I would have believed when she said, oh,

694
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:14.000
<v Speaker 2>you must have said it. I don't know if I

695
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:16.039
<v Speaker 2>would ever be confident enough in myself to say no,

696
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:19.320
<v Speaker 2>I didn't. Well, yeah, would you even remember that you had?

697
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Could so readily have forgotten.

698
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:23.920
<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't yeh. But that's such a cliche, isn't it

699
00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:25.760
<v Speaker 1>When someone says, how did you know such and such

700
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:28.440
<v Speaker 1>and then they say, oh, you must have mentioned it?

701
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Such a cliche h. But yeah, yeah. So he starts

702
00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:36.280
<v Speaker 1>more directly questioning her, confronting her about this footage.

703
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

704
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:40.360
<v Speaker 1>She seems to get flustered, and she rather importantly opens

705
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:41.119
<v Speaker 1>the window.

706
00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:43.079
<v Speaker 2>M hm and wants to make a drink.

707
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes. So she claims that she was hired to transcribe

708
00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:51.400
<v Speaker 1>footage of Felix to make sure that he wasn't a

709
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:54.239
<v Speaker 1>threat to this Dmitri Yes, because of his connection.

710
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:57.679
<v Speaker 2>So she was initially employed by the Rivals as far

711
00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:02.639
<v Speaker 2>as Felix is concerned. Dmitrian co Do we believe that because,

712
00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:04.480
<v Speaker 2>like I said about the phone call, is it intentional

713
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:06.840
<v Speaker 2>that the phone call directed him to the handbag, directed

714
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:09.880
<v Speaker 2>him to the USB drive, to the footage that she

715
00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:12.960
<v Speaker 2>could then say that was why it was and get

716
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:16.599
<v Speaker 2>him on side and whatever. Or is that just footage

717
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:19.679
<v Speaker 2>that they've been surveiling him with and he's just happened

718
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:20.159
<v Speaker 2>to find it.

719
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, part of me feels like it must be deliberate,

720
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:27.119
<v Speaker 1>because if she was really that clever, she wouldn't just

721
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:29.679
<v Speaker 1>leave it lying around in her bag. Yeah.

722
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it doesn't really add anything to her plot,

723
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:33.599
<v Speaker 2>does it. No.

724
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:36.199
<v Speaker 1>I also quite like the idea of when he starts

725
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:38.039
<v Speaker 1>asking her that she has to do a lot of

726
00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:40.119
<v Speaker 1>very quick thinking and she's able to come up with

727
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:42.679
<v Speaker 1>this story. Yeah, that's quite cool.

728
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:47.440
<v Speaker 2>She's very on it. Yeah, but with what she's planning,

729
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:49.360
<v Speaker 2>I suppose this has been in the pipeline for a while.

730
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:55.519
<v Speaker 2>She's yeah, coin with all the various permutation Yeah.

731
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:57.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But so she basically implies that through the process

732
00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:00.400
<v Speaker 1>of studying him and everything, she's kind of fall in

733
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:01.840
<v Speaker 1>love with the idea of him.

734
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and like he kind of immediately goes along with it.

735
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:08.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean she tries to leave, but yeah, he

736
00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:08.719
<v Speaker 1>stops her.

737
00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:12.119
<v Speaker 2>She probably like bluffs him into this like that she's

738
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:14.280
<v Speaker 2>about to go like, well are you going to stop me?

739
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Without saying it's such make him think it's his idea

740
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:17.639
<v Speaker 2>that she's staying.

741
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:21.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's very clever. Yeah, they do a lot of

742
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:22.880
<v Speaker 1>this manipulation stuff in this show.

743
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's so subtly done but works so well.

744
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:30.400
<v Speaker 1>It's genius to make a program that you get so

745
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:33.400
<v Speaker 1>much from it on a rewatch, Yes, because it's just,

746
00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:36.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, a whole extra layer of enjoyment, isn't it.

747
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they do work so well on the second watch,

748
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:42.239
<v Speaker 2>pretty much all of them. Yeah, because there's so much

749
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:44.039
<v Speaker 2>more to spot when you really know what's going on.

750
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:46.880
<v Speaker 2>How many people will rewatch? And I don't know the

751
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:50.280
<v Speaker 2>casual viewers, but yeah, for the fans it's it's great.

752
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So yeah, they I've written down begin relations Grandma

753
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:06.239
<v Speaker 1>and they have the wonderful falling through the gap between

754
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:07.559
<v Speaker 1>the twin Beths is.

755
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:13.000
<v Speaker 2>So good, it's so believable. I almost it's not intentionally,

756
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:15.320
<v Speaker 2>it was just an outtake that just happened, and they

757
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:15.719
<v Speaker 2>kept in.

758
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:19.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but yeah, humor and laughter is such a great

759
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>bonding thing, and it makes it so tragic how it

760
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:26.519
<v Speaker 1>goes in about two minutes time, you know, for him,

761
00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:29.039
<v Speaker 1>like he's got this, he thinks he's found this lovely connection.

762
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:30.079
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm.

763
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So whoops, she spills some water. It's not water,

764
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:35.679
<v Speaker 1>is it.

765
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:39.519
<v Speaker 2>No, whatever drink she's been making goes all over the floor.

766
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and oh, I forgot to mention earlier. Right at

767
00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:45.360
<v Speaker 1>the beginning, when he opens the drawer in the bedside table, Yes,

768
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:46.679
<v Speaker 1>Chekhov's hair dryer.

769
00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:55.079
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's vaguely shaped like a gun at camps.

770
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so she asked him to get that.

771
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Get the hair dry We're just going to stand over

772
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:05.039
<v Speaker 2>this and try and dry out an entire glass worth

773
00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:08.360
<v Speaker 2>of stuff out of the carpet. Apparently seems a bit

774
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:10.320
<v Speaker 2>of a stretch, but yeah, we'll let her off with it.

775
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:13.599
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, so she desperately wants him to open the

776
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:15.480
<v Speaker 2>curtains because she can't see what's going on in the corner.

777
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>It's also orchestrated.

778
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:20.280
<v Speaker 2>She throws over the hairdryer to him to catch this,

779
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:23.960
<v Speaker 2>and he stands there chouting his wife's name, waving a

780
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:27.039
<v Speaker 2>hair dryer as you.

781
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:33.039
<v Speaker 1>Do, and Iris turns m she completely drops her character.

782
00:38:33.519 --> 00:38:38.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and poor or Felix gets shot. So yeah, the

783
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:41.239
<v Speaker 2>whole the whole episode has been orchestrated by not Iris

784
00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:47.960
<v Speaker 2>as a staged assassination attempt, well not attempt, just outright

785
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:52.239
<v Speaker 2>assassination where Felix will be the fall guy for it

786
00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:55.920
<v Speaker 2>and he has no idea at any given point in this.

787
00:38:56.800 --> 00:38:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, we were just saying about you know,

788
00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:02.159
<v Speaker 1>she'll she'll have so many different options and stuff. But

789
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:05.039
<v Speaker 1>it is very lucky how she manages to get in

790
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:07.800
<v Speaker 1>to the window with the hair dryer at the exact

791
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:08.360
<v Speaker 1>right moment.

792
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:11.519
<v Speaker 2>Another good thing. And to rewatch you do notice her

793
00:39:11.639 --> 00:39:14.360
<v Speaker 2>checking her watch a lot. Yeah, she's always looking at

794
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:17.960
<v Speaker 2>what time it is. And then they're all coordinated with

795
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:21.400
<v Speaker 2>the man next door that's actually shot him. Yeah, and

796
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:23.719
<v Speaker 2>we'll clean up, we'll get rid of the glass that

797
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:27.039
<v Speaker 2>she's drank out of. We've conveniently got him some alcol

798
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:29.079
<v Speaker 2>in his system and some alcohol tips around to make

799
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:32.360
<v Speaker 2>him look like he was suspicious. He's got a notepad

800
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:36.039
<v Speaker 2>of what they've been saying. He's got binoculars. Yeah, look good, done,

801
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:36.880
<v Speaker 2>look good for Felix.

802
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:39.360
<v Speaker 1>No, they've done it expertly.

803
00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:43.679
<v Speaker 2>And then we find out that, yeah, it's the government

804
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:47.039
<v Speaker 2>in government has done all of this as well. It's

805
00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:49.719
<v Speaker 2>come right from the government. It's not just someone doesn't

806
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:53.400
<v Speaker 2>like him and promised. Muller's just worried about more bodily

807
00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:58.000
<v Speaker 2>fluids all over his carpet. Yes, I love the ending

808
00:39:58.039 --> 00:39:59.800
<v Speaker 2>of this. I think it's so it's so good and

809
00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:04.079
<v Speaker 2>how quickly it changes. Yeah, and you realize everything just

810
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:05.719
<v Speaker 2>drops away in a matter of seconds.

811
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the last.

812
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Sort of minute and a half is an entirely different episode.

813
00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:12.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just feel so sorry for Felix.

814
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:16.400
<v Speaker 2>He is a creep, though, We've got to remember, Yeah,

815
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:20.199
<v Speaker 2>he is a creep, but to die and yeah, I

816
00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:23.039
<v Speaker 2>mean he has a creep, but it's he he's a creep.

817
00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:27.360
<v Speaker 1>He is a creep, but he it feels like he

818
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:29.639
<v Speaker 1>has a chance of redemption or a chance of something better.

819
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:33.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and yeah he's a creep, but he's only because

820
00:40:33.320 --> 00:40:36.639
<v Speaker 2>he's like he's struggling with Shark and all of that

821
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:38.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of thing of going through this breakup. But that

822
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:39.159
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't.

823
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Little Dylan loses his dad Mmm.

824
00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, she never thought of that. Yeah, and I

825
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:49.199
<v Speaker 2>don't imagine that's going to do anything positive for Brenda's career.

826
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, because.

827
00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Presumer she's going to get questioned and think that she

828
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:55.800
<v Speaker 2>was part of the plan as well, because she hasn't

829
00:40:55.840 --> 00:40:57.320
<v Speaker 2>been working with him long, so she'll be a prime

830
00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:02.719
<v Speaker 2>suspect for orchestrating this. The drama drama, drama drama.

831
00:41:03.599 --> 00:41:07.079
<v Speaker 1>So when we see quote unquoite Iris at the end, Yes,

832
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:09.599
<v Speaker 1>she's what is she some sort of aid I assume

833
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:11.639
<v Speaker 1>so politician?

834
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:17.199
<v Speaker 2>A generic government person. Yeah, really sure what they do,

835
00:41:18.519 --> 00:41:20.840
<v Speaker 2>person in a suit that makes things happen.

836
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:24.199
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's really weird seeing her as her real

837
00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:27.480
<v Speaker 1>self when you've seen her as Iris this whole time.

838
00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, timid, little little field.

839
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Mouse, just like she had she had a career as

840
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:33.960
<v Speaker 1>an actress that she could have followed.

841
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she plays it well. Yeah. I think if it

842
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:41.239
<v Speaker 2>weren't for the end of this episode, like and the twist,

843
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I think really sells this for me because it makes

844
00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:46.440
<v Speaker 2>all of the the stuff that I'm not as interested

845
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:48.840
<v Speaker 2>in worthwhile. Yeah, that makes sense, all of the sort

846
00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:52.119
<v Speaker 2>of character stuff I don't This is not said out

847
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:55.199
<v Speaker 2>like good characters, obviously, but where it's just about people

848
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:58.199
<v Speaker 2>chatting and stuff. I don't find that as interesting, but

849
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<v Speaker 2>when it's it's so necessary for the twist. Hm, I

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<v Speaker 2>can forgive it a lot more here.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you going to give it? Out of nine?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? This is tough. I really don't know, as I say,

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<v Speaker 2>if it weren't for the last minute and a half.

854
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<v Speaker 2>But can I really give it a high score just

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<v Speaker 2>for that bit? It's not what I particularly rewatch much.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really torn.

857
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Should I say what I want to give it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? You go for.

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00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm going to give it a five, right,

860
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>which might seem low.

861
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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think it's good, but yeah, it's just it's

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00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:35.559
<v Speaker 1>just a feeling. It's just that's where I want to

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<v Speaker 1>put it. I think.

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00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:40.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I'm going to six. Okay, Yeah, I

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00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:43.679
<v Speaker 2>really enjoy it. I think it's very clever, but yeah,

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00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:45.920
<v Speaker 2>it's just not as rewatchable in the same way for me.

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00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Fair enough? Right?

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00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh, ask me here we go go. Did you spot

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00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:54.239
<v Speaker 2>the hair?

871
00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure I did. I'm pretty sure I did.

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00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:01.239
<v Speaker 1>It was very small, it was, and it was very

873
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:03.039
<v Speaker 1>hard to make out, but I think I got it.

874
00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Go for it in the window of the opposite house.

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00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh, no, is.

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00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:12.199
<v Speaker 1>It not right near the beginning?

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00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:15.159
<v Speaker 2>So proud of you? No, Oh my god, I mean less,

878
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:16.079
<v Speaker 2>there's more than one.

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00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:18.719
<v Speaker 1>I swear there's something, you know, right at the beginning

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00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:21.880
<v Speaker 1>when he looks out's on his own, and there's like

881
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:23.840
<v Speaker 1>he looks at an upstairs window and then he goes

882
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:26.199
<v Speaker 1>down in the upstairs window at bottom, it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's two ears.

884
00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:30.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there might be something else, but it's I mean,

885
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:31.360
<v Speaker 2>that's not the one that I had.

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00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I was so excited. Go on, where was it?

887
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:40.199
<v Speaker 2>Really? I'm sorry. It's also a very small one. It's

888
00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:41.480
<v Speaker 2>not a physical hair this week?

889
00:43:41.960 --> 00:43:43.159
<v Speaker 1>Was it in the picture on the wall?

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00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:44.719
<v Speaker 2>No? Not quite.

891
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:46.039
<v Speaker 1>I'll stop guessing. Just tell me.

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00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:51.159
<v Speaker 2>So. When Muller comes in and does the whole bathroom

893
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:55.840
<v Speaker 2>wardrobe situation and he checks on the hair products, it's

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00:43:55.880 --> 00:43:58.840
<v Speaker 2>a hair product. It's the logo on the bottle of shampoo.

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00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:05.079
<v Speaker 1>Wow, okay, that's very good. I need to go back

896
00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:06.559
<v Speaker 1>and look at that. And I also need to go

897
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<v Speaker 1>back and freeze frame that window. Yeah, and see what

898
00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking, because I'm sure I saw it and

899
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I thought.

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00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Oh, I'm so sorry. I was so exciting the

901
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:17.000
<v Speaker 2>way you were describing it, I was like, yes, it

902
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:18.239
<v Speaker 2>is small, it's hard to see.

903
00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the thing. Because it was right near the beginning,

904
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I thought, there, I've got it. So I just switched

905
00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:27.679
<v Speaker 1>off and didn't even think about it. But no, with

906
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:30.000
<v Speaker 1>it being hair products, that's that's very clever.

907
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:35.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, boo, I was going to say on the

908
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:37.519
<v Speaker 2>hair products. But it reminds me of when I was

909
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:40.280
<v Speaker 2>on my holiday on the cruise that we had our

910
00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:43.800
<v Speaker 2>cabin steward guy every day at least once, maybe twice

911
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:47.519
<v Speaker 2>a day, came in and refilled our bottle of hand soap.

912
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:51.280
<v Speaker 2>It never got more than about five percent down, but

913
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:53.039
<v Speaker 2>every single time you'd come in and top it up,

914
00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:56.199
<v Speaker 2>we're expecting that one day it's going to be overflowing.

915
00:44:56.199 --> 00:45:01.840
<v Speaker 2>The next day the sinkful, next the entire bathroom, open

916
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:04.079
<v Speaker 2>the door and it'd be like the shining, just like everywhere.

917
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:04.679
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

918
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:08.760
<v Speaker 2>It was very very insistent. I'm constantly filling up our soap.

919
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:09.639
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

920
00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:12.800
<v Speaker 2>See how he wasn't called Eric as far as I

921
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:13.199
<v Speaker 2>can remember.

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00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:20.199
<v Speaker 1>What about the breakfast menu? Yeah, oh dear, Yeah, you

923
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:21.400
<v Speaker 1>definitely win on the hairs.

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00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:25.679
<v Speaker 2>There's a couple I knew because that one was distinct,

925
00:45:25.719 --> 00:45:28.960
<v Speaker 2>and I remembered it from the podcast, right, same with

926
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:31.239
<v Speaker 2>last week's and the one with a little mask on.

927
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:35.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, yeah, I don't think I remember next week's

928
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:37.639
<v Speaker 2>all the week after, and both of those could be

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00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:41.880
<v Speaker 2>absolutely anywhere, so it's more of an even playing field

930
00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:45.840
<v Speaker 2>next week. Okay, speaking of hairs, see if you can

931
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:48.880
<v Speaker 2>suppot us from this week, we will tell you where

932
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<v Speaker 2>it was next.

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<v Speaker 1>We will very quick one this week. But we've got

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<v Speaker 1>a really cool comment on our Instagram which I just

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00:45:57.679 --> 00:45:59.960
<v Speaker 1>wanted to share because you remember a few weeks ago

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<v Speaker 1>I shared a message we got from a listener in Turkey.

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00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, this one comes from a listener in Spain.

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<v Speaker 1>It's from Inma if I'm pronouncing that right, But they say,

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00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I really love your podcast. It helps me improve my

940
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:16.840
<v Speaker 1>listening skills a lot. Huge inside Number nine fan here

941
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:18.480
<v Speaker 1>in Spain. Thanks for the great content.

942
00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Ah, thank you.

943
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:22.079
<v Speaker 1>I just thought that was that was very cool.

944
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:23.280
<v Speaker 2>That's really sweet.

945
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it sounds like you're, you know, learning English or

946
00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:29.480
<v Speaker 1>improving English. So I don't know if that means you're

947
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:31.920
<v Speaker 1>going to end up speaking with a half Yorkshire accent

948
00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:33.280
<v Speaker 1>and a half Surrey accent.

949
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Team North Team south, which accent will be trying.

950
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:40.760
<v Speaker 1>To go yeah, yea and more importantly, will you be

951
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:41.320
<v Speaker 1>saying h.

952
00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:44.679
<v Speaker 2>Or h oh? Thank you for that?

953
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you for that?

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<v Speaker 2>The country off the list. We're getting several. This is nice.

955
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're gaining them and then we're losing them by

956
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:53.039
<v Speaker 1>offending them.

957
00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:56.360
<v Speaker 2>So well yeah, yes, I can't think of any Spanish

958
00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:59.159
<v Speaker 2>characters in the series coming up that we're we'll be

959
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:01.199
<v Speaker 2>discussing so in safe.

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00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Good but yeah, so we're back next time with hurry

961
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:06.559
<v Speaker 1>up and wait.

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00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Indeed you will have to hurry up and wait for that.

963
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:15.039
<v Speaker 1>But until then it's time to close the door on

964
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:15.639
<v Speaker 1>number nine.

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00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:18.760
<v Speaker 2>But you never really leave, do you.

966
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening to the Ninth Degree.

967
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:26.519
<v Speaker 2>If you'd like to get in touch, you.

968
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:29.639
<v Speaker 1>Can find us on Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok at ninth

969
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<v Speaker 1>Degree Pod, or email us at ninth Degree Pod at

970
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<v Speaker 1>gmail dot com. You can also leave us a rating

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00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:38.159
<v Speaker 1>or a review wherever you get your podcasts.