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Speaker 3: I'd tell you what.
Speaker 4: Those first couple of hours went by really really fast.
Speaker 3: It's been fun.
Speaker 4: I mean, I enjoy doing this every day and try
Speaker 4: not to, you know, take it for granted, because it's
Speaker 4: still something that you know, I have to keep it
Speaker 4: in mind. One day I won't be able to do
Speaker 4: anymore and it'll be sad. But I'm gonna enjoy it
Speaker 4: until you know, they kicked me out of here, and
Speaker 4: it's much more enjoyable. Whenever college basketball is something Louisville
Speaker 4: fans myself included, I'm a Louisville fan whenever I'm excited
Speaker 4: to talk about it because you know, the team that
Speaker 4: I care so much about, they're they're at least relevant
Speaker 4: to an extent, and right now, there aren't many out
Speaker 4: there talking about Louisville basketball in Pat Kelsey's first year,
Speaker 4: you know, being a team that might win the national
Speaker 4: championship or anything like that. But they have become a
Speaker 4: significant storyline with these wins continuing to pile up, and
Speaker 4: it used to just be something that you would expect. Yeah,
Speaker 4: of course they're talking up Louisville. You kidding me, We're
Speaker 4: Louisville basketball. But that hasn't been the case in recent years.
Speaker 4: And in fact, this sounds painful to say, but it's
Speaker 4: another I guess example as to why this feels so awesome.
Speaker 4: And again that list as far as why this just
Speaker 4: feels as fun of a ride we've had as fans
Speaker 4: in the regular season in a long long time. Again,
Speaker 4: that list is lengthy. But Louisville hasn't been to the
Speaker 4: second weekend of the tournament in ten years. I mean,
Speaker 4: think about that now. They still not might get there
Speaker 4: this year because you just never know. But Louisville is
Speaker 4: relevant for the right reasons once again, And again that's
Speaker 4: not me to say. That's not me saying that they're
Speaker 4: about to cut down the nets at the final four.
Speaker 4: In fact, I don't even know where the Final four
Speaker 4: is this year, and I usually do know. I usually
Speaker 4: keep in mind where it is, just because I'm a
Speaker 4: college basketball nerd. But I have found myself paying a
Speaker 4: lot of attention to college hoops like I always do,
Speaker 4: but again for different reasons, doing it in a different way.
Speaker 4: Because you know, there was never a scenario where I
Speaker 4: wouldn't love college hoops, but I've had to find other
Speaker 4: things that really make me happy, like betting, and I
Speaker 4: still love betting, but I haven't made a college basketball
Speaker 4: bet in four days, which probably doesn't sound like that,
Speaker 4: are you Okay, I'm good, but I'm now just like
Speaker 4: like last night, it hit me at like eight thirty.
Speaker 4: I didn't even think to look at the board today
Speaker 4: because I just knew Louisville played a game and I
Speaker 4: was excited to watch them. So not to say that
Speaker 4: that I got into gambling because I needed something to
Speaker 4: kind of fill the void of enjoying college hoops because
Speaker 4: there wasn't any team that was going to give me
Speaker 4: great satisfaction. So I mean, I guess I was looking
Speaker 4: for satisfaction with winning bets.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I can for all the wrong place. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, I can do.
Speaker 4: Both and still have fun. And that's that's what I've
Speaker 4: been able to do so far this season. But man,
Speaker 4: it's it's just been a fun ride. And I know
Speaker 4: that's repetitive. I've said it many many times, but when
Speaker 4: you see this team continue to do what they did
Speaker 4: last night, the young Ciner, in my opinion, looking as
Speaker 4: good as it's looked on TV in many years. You
Speaker 4: can tell with each game these guys are getting more
Speaker 4: confident in themselves and these fans are getting more confident
Speaker 4: in this team, and it's just it's it's really I
Speaker 4: don't want to say best case scenario, because again, college
Speaker 4: hoops is different. We really evaluate what matters in March
Speaker 4: and when we get to the postseason, and we're not
Speaker 4: there yet. But I don't really even care about that
Speaker 4: right now. I'm obsessed with bracketology like anybody else, So
Speaker 4: maybe it's not true to say that I don't care.
Speaker 4: But living in the moment and enjoying it is what
Speaker 4: I know I'm doing, and I can certainly tell you
Speaker 4: it feels like many of you are doing it too,
Speaker 4: and it's it's been a lot of fun. I mean, well, Kentucky,
Speaker 4: they're having a season this year where they're clearly looking
Speaker 4: like one of the better teams in the country. They've
Speaker 4: got a great resume, they're looking like they're gonna get
Speaker 4: a really good seed in the tournament. Yeah, they've got
Speaker 4: some losses, some to teams they probably feel like maybe
Speaker 4: they shouldn't have lost to, but they're certainly not bad
Speaker 4: losses necessarily, and they've done enough good as far as
Speaker 4: their wins to where they're in a great spot. But
Speaker 4: I bet you because it's Pope and it's new, and
Speaker 4: he's really hitting notes in checking boxes if you will,
Speaker 4: that Cali Perry never would and really didn't care to.
Speaker 4: I think both fan bases around here are just enjoying
Speaker 4: the ride, and I think we're always going to do
Speaker 4: that when things are good, and when you get to
Speaker 4: it's just the expectation, and I'm sure Kentucky fans are
Speaker 4: there right now. I mean, this season is kind of
Speaker 4: what they expect, regardless of who's their coach. Didn't know
Speaker 4: if it was gonna happen this year, and here they are,
Speaker 4: so I think that makes it a little more enjoyable.
Speaker 4: And and it's Pope, one of their own. So when
Speaker 4: you get to a point where it is the expectation
Speaker 4: and it starts to be something that you don't really
Speaker 4: notice because you're just used to it, you are more
Speaker 4: so surprised when somebody's not gassing up your team and
Speaker 4: your coach and whatnot. That's a good place to be
Speaker 4: because you know why. That means it's been sustained that's
Speaker 4: sort of where that that that's that's where you are consistently.
Speaker 4: So again, I hope Louisville can get back to that
Speaker 4: point where we are no longer as excited to just
Speaker 4: see this team rolling through the ACC like they are.
Speaker 4: I mean, again, I know the ACC is what it is,
Speaker 4: but my point is, I just think it's been a
Speaker 4: it's been a rare year for fans for different reasons,
Speaker 4: to kind of find a little bit more joy than
Speaker 4: they typically would even if the results were the same.
Speaker 4: I think the circumstance with both new coaches here has
Speaker 4: has really made it made it a fun ride, and
Speaker 4: I'm loving every minute of It's coffee and company. We
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Speaker 4: a good chunk of the show today, and of course
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Speaker 4: picking up the phone to give us a call, you're
Speaker 4: probably wanting to talk some college basketball. And that's certainly
Speaker 4: what we've done throughout the day today. I know our
Speaker 4: audience turns over quite a bit throughout this three hour
Speaker 4: drivetime program, and obviously five o'clock there's a lot of
Speaker 4: people just now joining us. So again, as you could expect,
Speaker 4: we've talked a lot of college hoops today. And I'm
Speaker 4: to the point now where I could be proven wrong,
Speaker 4: but I believe this team is a really good team
Speaker 4: that is going to be deserving of a good seed.
Speaker 4: I think they'll get said good seed, and I don't
Speaker 4: know exactly what they'll do in the tournament. Once we
Speaker 4: get closer to actually playing a team from a different conference,
Speaker 4: maybe I do start to worry and squirm a little
Speaker 4: bit because I start to really think, I don't know,
Speaker 4: do the ACC set us up for failure because of
Speaker 4: how down it is. Are we going to be shell
Speaker 4: shocked when we play a team and you know, the
Speaker 4: round of thirty two that's from the Big ten or
Speaker 4: the Big twelve or the SEC. I mean, maybe that'll happen,
Speaker 4: but I'll worry about that when we get there. Just
Speaker 4: enjoying it as of right now. And for me last night,
Speaker 4: it wasn't as if I was expecting a loss. It
Speaker 4: wasn't as if I was really worried. In fact, my
Speaker 4: real issue going into the game, and it wasn't really
Speaker 4: an issue. It wasn't like I was, you know, being
Speaker 4: a caring about it, or maybe I was. Maybe that's
Speaker 4: how you would describe it if you listen to me
Speaker 4: talk about it. But I just mad Wake Forest schedule
Speaker 4: the way they did, because that win should have more
Speaker 4: value than it does. But that's a good place to be,
Speaker 4: right You beat somebody that you know is actually better
Speaker 4: than the metrics tell you, and your real complain is
Speaker 4: that you didn't end up jumping when you should have.
Speaker 4: And again, I not to be so repetitive, but Louisville
Speaker 4: being up by as much as twenty nine points last night,
Speaker 4: beating a team that has a better win than they
Speaker 4: do Wake Forest. Wake Forest has a win against Michigan,
Speaker 4: which is a better win than Louisville has, and they
Speaker 4: don't have any bad losses even today. They had the
Speaker 4: same record last night fifteen and five going into the game,
Speaker 4: but they're ranked in this seventies, meaning wake Forest is
Speaker 4: because of their stupidity with how they scheduled the non conference,
Speaker 4: something that is easy to control, easy to avoid. So
Speaker 4: my one complaint, which again i'm not I mean, it
Speaker 4: is an issue. It is something that bothers me, but
Speaker 4: I'll deal with it. And if this is my one complaint,
Speaker 4: then I think we're in a pretty good spot. But
Speaker 4: Louisville fell last night in the net rankings after beating
Speaker 4: a fifteen and five team with a with a bet
Speaker 4: honestly a better resume then I mean, maybe that that's
Speaker 4: up for debate, but clearly a better win and no
Speaker 4: bad losses and you beat them by double digits and
Speaker 4: you fell in the net rankings one spot, and it's
Speaker 4: and it's something that could have easily been avoided. And
Speaker 4: it's not only hurt wake Forest, it's hurting the acc
Speaker 4: including Louisville. But another sign for me last night was
Speaker 4: it got off to a slow start. I don't think
Speaker 4: it would be accurate to say Louisville came out playing poorly.
Speaker 4: I think they came out clearly locked in defensively, they
Speaker 4: were getting some good looks. They did miss free throws,
Speaker 4: which you gotta wonder is that gonna get you one day.
Speaker 4: I mean last night at the free throw line, they
Speaker 4: shot seventy one percent fifteen of twenty one. So honestly,
Speaker 4: I feel like they must have made like, I don't know,
Speaker 4: thirteen of their last fourteen or something because they started
Speaker 4: I believe it was like one for six or something.
Speaker 4: So it got better, and I think seventy one percent
Speaker 4: as a team fifteen of twenty one is not a
Speaker 4: bad night at the line. But you know, any free
Speaker 4: throw you miss, you feel like, man, we're leaving points
Speaker 4: out there. So again, Louisville came out ready to play.
Speaker 4: Wake Forest just did a good job of knowing, hey,
Speaker 4: we cannot let rain Smith breathe, and we got to
Speaker 4: be mindful of, you know, the pace they want to
Speaker 4: play at. So slow start to the game, but Louisville was,
Speaker 4: you know right, there wasn't as if wake Forest got
Speaker 4: off to I mean Louisville led for thirty seven minutes
Speaker 4: and twenty five seconds. Wake Forest led for fifty three seconds,
Speaker 4: and the lead change happened twice. The game was tied
Speaker 4: for a minute and forty two seconds, So I mean
Speaker 4: for the vast majority of that game, Louisville was in control,
Speaker 4: and I think to see them really go to that
Speaker 4: first media time out without having a real big run
Speaker 4: and wake Forest, I don't know if the huddle was
Speaker 4: positive at the time, but wake Forest had to feel
Speaker 4: pretty good after the first time out because Louisville didn't
Speaker 4: come out picking up where they left off against SMU.
Speaker 4: But sure enough, Louisville just hounding wake Forest defensively and
Speaker 4: making all the hustle plays, and then shots started to fall.
Speaker 4: Austin said this earlier, and he spot on can i
Speaker 4: Rus knocking down that first three that seemed to kind
Speaker 4: of I mean, I don't know if it had a
Speaker 4: real impact on other guys making shots, but he made
Speaker 4: the first one and then things started to kind of
Speaker 4: roll a little bit offensively. And what this team's been
Speaker 4: able to do, and I know competition's gonna be mentioned
Speaker 4: as a factor, but nothing you can do about that.
Speaker 4: What louis has been able to do, I feel like
Speaker 4: in this non game ten now and now at ten
Speaker 4: game winning streak really in January specifically, what they've done
Speaker 4: is they'll, you know, they'll stay consistent with things that
Speaker 4: are important that you can control. And that's attention to
Speaker 4: detailed defensively really just energy, not getting you know, not
Speaker 4: getting beat for the for the loose balls, and you know,
Speaker 4: spacing on offense. Like if they stay consistent there, shots
Speaker 4: are gonna fall for this group. And that's how they
Speaker 4: can be either close or maybe ahead by a few
Speaker 4: points and then out of nowhere they go on a
Speaker 4: run in their up double digits. And that's all she wrote,
Speaker 4: And that's really what happened last night. I found myself
Speaker 4: not complaining about the end of the game where Wake
Speaker 4: went on an eleven and eleven oh run in the
Speaker 4: last forty four I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: In fact, Wake went on an eleven and eleven to
Speaker 4: one run in the last four minutes and forty eight seconds.
Speaker 4: Louisville missed their last six shots. They had a scoring
Speaker 4: draft of five minutes, so again, the ending of the
Speaker 4: game wasn't bad. But I found myself angry at those
Speaker 4: that were like nitpicking and I shouldn't care because people
Speaker 4: can react however they want to react.
Speaker 3: But if that's where we are, where.
Speaker 4: I'm I mean, I think one of the reasons I'm
Speaker 4: sensitive to this group because I just love watching this
Speaker 4: team play, and I think every but he should be
Speaker 4: appreciative of this in all aspects, not to say you
Speaker 4: can't be critical when bad plays happen, or maybe they
Speaker 4: do have a clunker and they lose a game or something.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's I don't expect that to happen until
Speaker 4: I see a sign of them really taking a step back.
Speaker 4: But they don't play anybody that you feel like should
Speaker 4: challenge them more so than the teams they've just played
Speaker 4: in the month of January. I mean, that's just the
Speaker 4: reality of it. So slowly, but surely, there are signs
Speaker 4: almost daily for me as as a fanatic, a superfan,
Speaker 4: that is reminding me we're healing, we're getting back, and
Speaker 4: I don't know if this is part of the healing process.
Speaker 4: But you know, I'm no longer angry at I mean,
Speaker 4: I still think what he said was foolish, but I mean,
Speaker 4: I can't let Corey Alexander's nonsense from a year ago
Speaker 4: interrupt my joy with this team. And I thought, you know,
Speaker 4: he was really complimentary last night of Pat Kelse and Louisville,
Speaker 4: and I believe he was sincere. I do maybe if
Speaker 4: he would have acknowledged some of his comments than it,
Speaker 4: but which you have to keep in mind. And somebody
Speaker 4: who who works in actually somebody who worked for the
Speaker 4: ACC network that was here in town for the game yesterday,
Speaker 4: somebody that I've just met over the years at going
Speaker 4: to different ACC events and we became buddies. He brought
Speaker 4: up a really good point that I hadn't considered. And
Speaker 4: it's just a reminder that at times we do get
Speaker 4: a little self absorbed in our own bubble here. But
Speaker 4: if Corey Alexander kind of went out of his way
Speaker 4: to reference comments he made about Louisville and Kenny Payne
Speaker 4: last year while the program was terrible, meaning while nobody
Speaker 4: was watching, Like who do you think was watching North
Speaker 4: Carolina State in Louisville play each other in the Day
Speaker 4: of Shame game in the ACC Tournament? Only fans of
Speaker 4: Louisville or NC State or fans who like or just
Speaker 4: people who would have tortured themselves and watched that product
Speaker 4: of basketball. So like him going out of his way
Speaker 4: to reference it would have just seemed like he was
Speaker 4: really just you know, going off off the board there
Speaker 4: as far as what he's supposed to do. So, you know, Beheim,
Speaker 4: I thought you know was oddly entertaining. I mentioned this
Speaker 4: at the beginning of the show. Who were three different
Speaker 4: times were Beheim said something that genuinely brought laughter. And
Speaker 4: I think there's oftentimes things I can find funny or
Speaker 4: humorous that I don't genuinely have that emotion, which that's
Speaker 4: why totally different conversation. But this does give me a
Speaker 4: chance to mention it my pet peeven what we do
Speaker 4: here radio broadcasting, podcasting, even if you want to call
Speaker 4: it that the fake laugh for effect, if it isn't
Speaker 4: really funny, don't laugh. You have a better chance of
Speaker 4: someone finding what you're talking about funny if you don't laugh.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah, well good uff, it's so good. But
Speaker 3: do you know what I mean by that? Like if
Speaker 3: you ever picked up on that.
Speaker 5: Like it's like a catch breath, I think is what
Speaker 5: they call it an acting school, Well, it's just you
Speaker 5: don't know what to do with that time.
Speaker 3: So but you also want to please a person that
Speaker 3: you're talking to.
Speaker 4: But not acting like I mean, it's just again it's
Speaker 4: human nature. There's a better chance for somebody, Like if
Speaker 4: somebody is hearing you laughing amongst each other or laughing
Speaker 4: at yourself, They're going to then mentally think, think, what's
Speaker 4: so funny, and then they're gonna realize that's not that funny. Right,
Speaker 4: So if you're not laughing, the bars low and then
Speaker 4: they're gonna maybe find it funny, you know. So anyways,
Speaker 4: just that that's that's a random thing. I just had
Speaker 4: to to interject with but Beheim last night, part of his,
Speaker 4: part of part of me, I guess being surprised is
Speaker 4: the delivery, Like he doesn't mean times I could barely
Speaker 4: hear him. Uh, and he's you know, he's not young
Speaker 4: by any means, and I oftentimes wondered what like, it's
Speaker 4: not uncommon for coaches of the game, especially those that
Speaker 4: have a national championship on the resume, to be intrigued
Speaker 4: by wanting to be a broadcaster. You can still make
Speaker 4: a good living doing it, and you know, you are
Speaker 4: somebody that people will respect as far as your opinion
Speaker 4: on the game. And Beyhem's somebody that I don't you know,
Speaker 4: I don't know how great he is, but certainly I
Speaker 4: think he knows more about basketball than I ever will,
Speaker 4: So you know, I didn't really know. I mean, I've
Speaker 4: oftentimes found myself hearing him on games last couple of years,
Speaker 4: thinking man, like is this worth it? Like I know
Speaker 4: he coached, but man, he's not bringing much. And last night,
Speaker 4: if anything, he brought me some laughter because whenever he
Speaker 4: got the technical, the first one which was actually I
Speaker 4: don't know, they got three technicals because Salis got kicked
Speaker 4: out and look, he's a hell of a player, but
Speaker 4: both times he got teed up. If you have sympathy
Speaker 4: for him, have sympathy for him not being able to
Speaker 4: control his emotions because he mean, you can't be surprised
Speaker 4: when you get both those technicals. I mean that's just
Speaker 4: I mean the whole taunting, Like if he'd had just
Speaker 4: yelled and not done the head pat he would not
Speaker 4: have got a technical. The tapping on the head directly
Speaker 4: in front of Frank after he absolutely posterized him. It's
Speaker 4: just something you gotta control. You can probably get to
Speaker 4: half court and then do it and you're not gonna
Speaker 4: get a tee. But to do it in that moment,
Speaker 4: I guess it was hard for him to control. But
Speaker 4: you're also got to be smarter. You already got a
Speaker 4: technical for bitching at the reps because you thought she
Speaker 4: got fouled, because chucky. What did he do Austin He
Speaker 4: had the cuffs out, the cuffs, see, he was cuffing him.
Speaker 4: So you know those technicals that they got, I thought
Speaker 4: all of them were deserving, and the real stupid one.
Speaker 4: I mean I just mentioned how silly the other ones were.
Speaker 4: But the big fella just walking over as James Scott
Speaker 4: is already on the sideline heading to the seat on
Speaker 4: the bench because he's getting checked out of the game,
Speaker 4: and Efton Reed is going in front of him the
Speaker 4: Louisville bench and in front of the refs and just talking,
Speaker 4: talking reckless to him, like what do you expect?
Speaker 3: But right had a whole lot of raw er. Yeah,
Speaker 3: right after he got a t.
Speaker 4: They you know, had a he had a bucket, impressive
Speaker 4: bucket around the rim because he's a pretty polished low
Speaker 4: post player, and you know, he starts celebrating down twenty
Speaker 4: six I think it.
Speaker 3: Was, and Beheim just couldn't. You know.
Speaker 4: Bayam's not gonna wait for his time on the broadcast.
Speaker 4: He's Jim Bayham, So he's just gonna say what he
Speaker 4: wants to say when he wants to say it, even
Speaker 4: if he's cutting you off, even if he's distracting you
Speaker 4: from the game itself. But he just said do he
Speaker 4: said this aloud, does Efton Reed know they're down to
Speaker 4: or now? No, he's down twenty seven points. And I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm glad somebody had the stones to say it, because
Speaker 4: like there's nothing that's a worse look for players than
Speaker 4: that then getting killed and then still acting like you
Speaker 4: know you have a reason too, because maybe this is
Speaker 4: just the old boomer in me now show boting, you know,
Speaker 4: talking smack, letting the other opponent know that you're getting
Speaker 4: the best of them. That's as old as time. That's
Speaker 4: been happening in sports since they've existed. But now it's
Speaker 4: so like it's it's such a show now, Like the
Speaker 4: padding on the head, the putting your hand near the
Speaker 4: ground to to let somebody know they're too small. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Like I mean again, it's probably just me being an
Speaker 4: old hater thinking that that's a little much, but like
Speaker 4: those are things that when you do get a tea,
Speaker 4: you're kind of asking for it, like you're you are,
Speaker 4: you're doing a little extra to like it's gonna be
Speaker 4: hard for somebody, including referees, to not notice that you're
Speaker 4: out there taunting your opponent, which sometimes they let it go,
Speaker 4: but sometimes you know they don't, so Beehim mentioning that
Speaker 4: was really funny. And then.
Speaker 3: Uh, West Durham, who, by the.
Speaker 4: Way, such a pro and he's great at whatever whatever
Speaker 4: You've got Corey Alexander and beyhim kind of seemingly turning
Speaker 4: the game into their own talk show. When it gets
Speaker 4: out of hand, he can easily rain them back in.
Speaker 4: But whenever whatever, Wes asked Beheim, you know, uh, when
Speaker 4: do you think Steve Forbes, Uh, you know, is gonna
Speaker 4: find some offensive rhythm here?
Speaker 3: He said, next week?
Speaker 4: And then and then also he just randomly interjected at
Speaker 4: one point, then Steve Forbes is looking to get out
Speaker 4: of here as quick as he can. And I'm sure
Speaker 4: I loved it because he's talking up my team that's
Speaker 4: blowing the way forest out.
Speaker 3: But I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just I had a weird feeling about the broadcast
Speaker 4: last night because I was just, you know, I was
Speaker 4: just worried more so about Corey Alexander than I should
Speaker 4: ever be. But ended up being a great win for
Speaker 4: Louisville and they look good for a good thirty plus
Speaker 4: minutes of last night and as far as.
Speaker 3: The crew, I thought they did a pretty good job.
Speaker 4: If Bayab's going to keep out of nowhere dropping liners
Speaker 4: with no energy that catch me off guard, bring him
Speaker 4: to every game, Yeah, bring.
Speaker 3: Him back like dry humor, like like the office, or
Speaker 3: like oh he also looks like Larry David. Yeah, he's
Speaker 3: exactly some curbs.
Speaker 4: So he's got that going for him. All right, quick break,
Speaker 4: we'll come back on the other side. Keep it rolling
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Speaker 4: and meet other families, uh, with with with children that
Speaker 4: that are very similar to my daughter, it's just a
Speaker 4: it's a very very beneficial thing for me, and I'm
Speaker 4: very thankful for it. So again, I would have never
Speaker 4: thought of this, but there are certain dental offices that
Speaker 4: that that do treat special needs children and they understand
Speaker 4: that something that may not need uh for that that
Speaker 4: a that a kid not in the same situation wouldn't
Speaker 4: need to be put to sleep to have work done.
Speaker 4: Obviously that that's not the case with with with with
Speaker 4: other kids like my daughter. So she went in and
Speaker 4: they they they gave her the I mean, she was
Speaker 4: not to sound like I'm somebody who needs to be,
Speaker 4: you know, feeling the effects of a drug. But they
Speaker 4: gave her some be juice, they called it this morning,
Speaker 4: and man, she was feeling good. I'm like, I might
Speaker 4: need a sip of that when I when I wind
Speaker 4: down on the recliner at night, I might need to
Speaker 4: get a little bit of that happy juice myself. Because
Speaker 4: she was feeling good. And then she was out and
Speaker 4: they pulled her teeth. And anytime you have anesthesia and
Speaker 4: you wake up from it like your I mean, your
Speaker 4: emotions are all over the place. I fortunately never experienced
Speaker 4: it myself, because I've never I mean, I don't remember.
Speaker 4: I'm sure I did get put to sleep for something
Speaker 4: when I was young. But my wife had has had
Speaker 4: some some medical medical stuff done over the years to
Speaker 4: where like she'll just be crying and nobody knows that
Speaker 4: she hasn't no, while like one time, she probably hate
Speaker 4: me telling the story, but she had she had some
Speaker 4: deental work done years ago that didn't need it was
Speaker 4: actually oral surgery.
Speaker 3: So, you know, I picked her up.
Speaker 4: Took her home, and you know, and on the way home,
Speaker 4: you know, she was kind of out of it, kind
Speaker 4: of coming to from from being put to sleep, and
Speaker 4: we stopped to get her prescription. I'm like, you want
Speaker 4: to go in and get it. She's like, no, I
Speaker 4: got it. I'm fine. Fine, you know, it's just her nature,
Speaker 4: like I'm fine, let me alone. You know, you need
Speaker 4: a babysit me.
Speaker 3: It's like, okay.
Speaker 4: Well, so she goes in and twenty minutes go by
Speaker 4: and I text her and I didn't hear anything, and
Speaker 4: I'm thinking she may be waiting in line. So I
Speaker 4: walked in and she's just standing in one of the
Speaker 4: aisles crying, and I.
Speaker 3: Was like, oh, what happened? And she was like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, and I'm like, what's wrong? I don't know.
Speaker 4: So that was a real eye opener for me as
Speaker 4: far as that like you can just have when you're
Speaker 4: kind of coming back to life, if you will, you
Speaker 4: can just you know, for and when I share that story.
Speaker 4: Others have told similar stories as well. So she woke
Speaker 4: up and she you know, she she just made it
Speaker 4: clear she wanted to go home and go to sleep.
Speaker 4: But four teeth being pulled out, man, Like, that's a
Speaker 4: happy job. Yeah, I was telling and this is you know,
Speaker 4: we don't I like to think we we copare really
Speaker 4: well together. And I don't mean like we're not together,
Speaker 4: but like, you know, we we were on the same
Speaker 4: We definitely match each other's you know, and energy when
Speaker 4: it comes to just doing whatever we can to do,
Speaker 4: you know, to make our children's lives better. I think
Speaker 4: we work really well together, not only as husband and wife,
Speaker 4: but also as as mom and dad. But I'm I'm
Speaker 4: just my nature and she's great for being patient with it.
Speaker 4: But you know when they tell me when we.
Speaker 3: Get there, they're like, well, while we're while we're.
Speaker 4: Going to go through this the initial procedure we had planned,
Speaker 4: We've we've got some baby teeth that are going to
Speaker 4: come out anyway, and we already are going to have
Speaker 4: her kind of sedated, so we'll probably go ahead and
Speaker 4: get those out because we see that there may be
Speaker 4: like a cavity developing here or there's one that you know,
Speaker 4: and I'm I'm sitting here thinking, like, you're not gonna
Speaker 4: let them take four of her teeth out today?
Speaker 3: That's a lot even for you. I'm just real defensive.
Speaker 4: And then I'm like, yeah, need to calm down, Like
Speaker 4: it makes total sense and it would be much easier
Speaker 4: to just get it done and I might have to
Speaker 4: worry about it later. But yeah, four teeth in one
Speaker 4: visit to the to the dentist.
Speaker 3: That big trip. I mean, I mean that's a bad ass.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think I would be able to
Speaker 4: handle it as well as it's a lot of Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: did uh? Did you have a fear of the dentists
Speaker 4: growing up?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: I actually I actually talked about this with my dad yesterday.
Speaker 5: I've never really hated the dentist office. I had had
Speaker 5: a lot of work on my teeth, that's what she said, uh,
Speaker 5: of like in my high school times. But like I
Speaker 5: had to get braces, I had to have like these spacers,
Speaker 5: a sting and my mouth at one point funny Side Street,
Speaker 5: but I had this contractor thing in my mouth exactly
Speaker 5: what you're talking about. Mom had to like tighten every
Speaker 5: day for two weeks to straighten my whole teeth out.
Speaker 5: And there was one week where I had just a
Speaker 5: gap in my tooth that you can fit like a
Speaker 5: pinky through. And it was not good. Because I was
Speaker 5: in middle school at the time, I was very easy
Speaker 5: to make fun of ad that with the shabbiness and
Speaker 5: that kids are brutal in middle school. Man, dude, there
Speaker 5: they did not relent. What do you shop at the gap?
Speaker 5: That was one thing I got all the time to
Speaker 5: And I'm just I'm just a little innocent case.
Speaker 4: Is there anything more awkward in life than middle school?
Speaker 4: Even if you had it good in middle school, where
Speaker 4: you were a good athlete, you were mister popular, whatever,
Speaker 4: it is, it's just an awkward internal experience because you're
Speaker 4: kind of like, who am I?
Speaker 3: What am I? Am? I?
Speaker 4: Am I a teenager? Am I still a kid? Like
Speaker 4: it's just you know, puberty, the emotions that are changing
Speaker 4: like middle school. Man, I I mean it's it's a
Speaker 4: part of our life that's always going to be there.
Speaker 4: But just like thinking of middle school is a parrot
Speaker 4: or going back in it's just awkward, man, It's just
Speaker 4: it's it's a weird time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I hated middle school.
Speaker 5: But the middle school, to be honest with you, No,
Speaker 5: But to your question, No, I've never really had a
Speaker 5: fear of the dentist.
Speaker 3: I've always liked it. It was it was really chill.
Speaker 5: For the longest time, I actually thought I kind of
Speaker 5: wanted to work in a dentist office. You know, there's
Speaker 5: usually you know, like a nice little kids room. There's
Speaker 5: a fish tank, usually some chill like music, some gym
Speaker 5: blossoms playing or something like that, and it's just quiet
Speaker 5: and like it usually smells good there. The people are
Speaker 5: nice to you. But you know, I was not told
Speaker 5: you're going to die, like you're at the doctor's office.
Speaker 4: So I was scared at the dentist whenever I was
Speaker 4: a little kid, like a little bitty kid, and I
Speaker 4: had a lot of dental work done over the years,
Speaker 4: not only dentists, but also or the dentist.
Speaker 3: And I two things.
Speaker 4: One my fear actually was happening where I was scared
Speaker 4: and they knew it, so they like restrained me, like
Speaker 4: I've had that happen and I was young, and I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't even know if I remember it, Like I
Speaker 4: can visualize it in my head right now because I was.
Speaker 4: I was pretty young, but I do remember being scared,
Speaker 4: so that kind of sticks with me. But my mom
Speaker 4: kind of heard that I was really struggling with them
Speaker 4: restraining me. I'm claustrophobic in general, and I was already
Speaker 4: fearful of the dentist, and my mom came back there
Speaker 4: and told them get me out of it. Like we left,
Speaker 4: and I remember thinking, well, even if the dentist does
Speaker 4: try to pull that kind of stuff, Mom's got my
Speaker 4: back and she's gonna.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: And then at seven years old, because this is a
Speaker 4: weird story, my ear drum burst when I was when
Speaker 4: I was an infant, so they did some stuff, I
Speaker 4: guess to like, you know, kind of bandage it up
Speaker 4: until I got older to where they actually did surgery
Speaker 4: on me when I was seven, where I had to
Speaker 4: you know, like legitimate surgery. I had to wear like
Speaker 4: this big cone on my head. So once I went
Speaker 4: through that, I realized I realized, Hey, the dentist won't
Speaker 4: be so bad because like, if I can go through
Speaker 4: that at seven years old, and I was so I remember,
Speaker 4: I mean, this is just me in my own head,
Speaker 4: which I still am today. This is you know, twenty
Speaker 4: eight years removed. Remember thinking like, well, I know they're
Speaker 4: telling me everything is gonna be okay, but surgery sounds
Speaker 4: pretty serious. Uh that I was at a doctor's office
Speaker 4: downtown and just hearing the word surgery and knowing how
Speaker 4: serious it was, I'm like, well, you know, I'm sure
Speaker 4: they're just telling me to keep me, keep me, you know,
Speaker 4: not scared. But I'm probably gonna die. So I'm gonna
Speaker 4: tell everybody. I'm sitting here at seven years old, thinking, well,
Speaker 4: I had a good life, you know, And it's just
Speaker 4: it's just how I tend to worry about things at
Speaker 4: a level that is just not necessary in any way.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I uh, I.
Speaker 4: Walked out of the dental office today and helped her
Speaker 4: get to the car, and I'm thinking, you know what,
Speaker 4: I think she was. She was more brave, more brave
Speaker 4: than I was, all right, So for her, she's a sweetheart,
Speaker 4: she's she's she's the best. And I'm so glad. You
Speaker 4: get like, you don't just have to say that, because
Speaker 4: you know you're being nice. You got you, you know her,
Speaker 4: you're in the crew.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we've got the We've we've got the Maya
Speaker 5: experience with the crew she very very welcoming and she liked.
Speaker 3: She liked that with a lot of all strangers too,
Speaker 3: or did I.
Speaker 4: Know well, she knows well, she knows that she is
Speaker 4: very very sweet to a lot of people. But she
Speaker 4: you know, she makes the connection that you and I
Speaker 4: work together and whatnot, and that you know that means
Speaker 4: you're in. But Moose was not happy last night to
Speaker 4: know that you were at the game and we weren't.
Speaker 3: Oh oh he was.
Speaker 4: But but hey the Cards won and he you know,
Speaker 4: he got over it. But man, he's he's he's loving
Speaker 4: this team.
Speaker 3: And you know, this is just me.
Speaker 4: I'm sure this is nothing anybody cares about because it's
Speaker 4: just me.
Speaker 3: But I know I'm not alone.
Speaker 4: There's others out there that are having kind of that experience.
Speaker 4: Rather it be with Like my dad last night was
Speaker 4: at the game too. He called me at halftime and
Speaker 4: he was so excited, and I kind of felt like
Speaker 4: the parent. I'm like, I'm so glad he's enjoying this. Man,
Speaker 4: he loves this team. And I'm thinking, all right, well
Speaker 4: you be careful now, son, Yeah, just make sure you
Speaker 4: make sure you get a safe out home and enjoy yourself.
Speaker 4: Like I'm just so happy he's there enjoying it. It's just, man,
Speaker 4: the vibes around Louisville hoops are are really really good
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 4: So I didn't get to this as much as I
Speaker 4: wanted to early on in the show, and that really
Speaker 4: hasn't a whole lot to really get into. But Tyler
Speaker 4: Shuck is really performing well at the Senior Bowl. I mean,
Speaker 4: if you just his name on social media, you go
Speaker 4: read the write ups after the first couple of days
Speaker 4: of the event as a bunch of NFL hopefuls are
Speaker 4: showing the NFL what they what they've got. And Quincy
Speaker 4: Riley also will admit is having a having a good day,
Speaker 4: good day as well. But or I guess good day yesterday.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure about today. But Tyler Shuck, you know,
Speaker 4: when I see people mentioned that you know he's got
Speaker 4: the best arm of anybody there and that you know
Speaker 4: his deep ball is as good as they've seen at
Speaker 4: that event in many years. And this isn't people covering
Speaker 4: it from the Louisville lens. These are people who you
Speaker 4: know cover the NFL. Matt Miller, who is in an
Speaker 4: ESPN's NFL draft analyst, I mean he's somebody that has
Speaker 4: done this for a long time, and he said this earlier.
Speaker 4: Louisville quarterback Tyler Shuck has been the best of the
Speaker 4: national quarterbacks this year. Can really rip it down field,
Speaker 4: great build and great command of the ball today. So
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not surprised to hear it because I
Speaker 4: felt like all year Louisville, I mean, we knew we
Speaker 4: had a good quarterback. And when I say this, it's
Speaker 4: gonna sound like I'm claiming he's about to go put
Speaker 4: together a Patrick Mahomes type career and who knows how
Speaker 4: long he ever plays in the NFL. But I don't
Speaker 4: really know what his weakness is now. He's probably in fact,
Speaker 4: I guess he's clearly not as good at certain things
Speaker 4: that other quarterbacks. He's not going to be a first
Speaker 4: round pick, but I think after the first round, when
Speaker 4: you get into the later rounds or maybe just you know,
Speaker 4: the mid rounds, I mean, if a team likes what
Speaker 4: they see, I don't. I don't think I'm going to
Speaker 4: be shocked at all, because you know, I again, who know,
Speaker 4: there's all kinds of coverage of the NFL Draft that's
Speaker 4: year round, and you can find a lot of things
Speaker 4: that people said about guys and they were way wrong.
Speaker 4: So trust me, I'm not making some bold prediction about
Speaker 4: his career, but I won't be shocked if he does
Speaker 4: have a good career, because you know, he's he's he
Speaker 4: can do a little of everything. I mean, clearly, he's
Speaker 4: not a guy that's going to take off and and
Speaker 4: you know he doesn't have electrifying speed. But one thing
Speaker 4: I will admit that I felt really stupid about whenever
Speaker 4: we were about to kick off the season, I never
Speaker 4: realized that his injuries were because he ran the ball
Speaker 4: a lot. I mean, he's a big guy, but he's
Speaker 4: not a big guy. To me, that looks like, yeah,
Speaker 4: let's just have him play like Josh Allen, Let's have
Speaker 4: him play like Riley Leonard. I mean, those guys are
Speaker 4: are big in stature, and Shuck's not small. But I
Speaker 4: guess he did play like that a lot at Oregon
Speaker 4: and at Texas Tech, and I'm sure that was a
Speaker 4: big factor in his injury. So if he's utilized the
Speaker 4: way Jeff utilized him, I think he can have a
Speaker 4: long career in the NFL as a backup or maybe
Speaker 4: even be a guy that ends up with a franchise
Speaker 4: that doesn't need a quarterback to be elite. They've got
Speaker 4: other things around that quarterback to where they just need
Speaker 4: him to go out there and be sis to be
Speaker 4: consistent and solid. So again, you never know, but I'm
Speaker 4: not really sure what would be the real issue with
Speaker 4: with you know, with taking him in the mid or
Speaker 4: late rounds if you need a quarterback. Because's got to
Speaker 4: keep in mind oftentimes there's quarterbacks drafted after the first
Speaker 4: few rounds or maybe right around there that they're not
Speaker 4: I mean, if they think somebody's a franchise quarterback, they're
Speaker 4: not taking them in the third or fourth round. They're
Speaker 4: taking them earlier. So again, I'm trying to be clear
Speaker 4: that I'm not saying we should expect this guy to be,
Speaker 4: you know, taken off the board super early. But I
Speaker 4: mean he's got a really good skill set, he's got
Speaker 4: good size, and look, Jeff Brom played him in a
Speaker 4: way that showed he could be an NFL player, And
Speaker 4: I think Jeff has absolutely done a great job in
Speaker 4: his first two years at Louisville at really showing if
Speaker 4: you are a talented player that really feels like you
Speaker 4: know you've got the chops offensively, Jeff can find a
Speaker 4: spot for you and really help you get to the NFL.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to give Bram all the credit here.
Speaker 4: Chuck has a has a good stint in the NFL,
Speaker 4: but clearly he would have never sniffed the NFL had
Speaker 4: he not had the year that he did at Louisville.
Speaker 4: And I think Jeff, this is something that really stood
Speaker 4: out to me during the Notre Dame game, because as
Speaker 4: much as I don't feel like he's necessarily great as
Speaker 4: a broadcaster, it may just be because of his voice,
Speaker 4: and I think he's kind of adweep. But Jason Garrett,
Speaker 4: he is on the NBC coverage for the NFL on
Speaker 4: NBC that is on Sunday nights, but he also is
Speaker 4: the color analysts for Notre Dame football, or at least
Speaker 4: he was the last couple of years when he wasn't coaching.
Speaker 4: So he talked about how Tyler Shuck, you know, wouldn't
Speaker 4: be shocked if he's in the NFL. And then he
Speaker 4: really went out of his way. And I don't really
Speaker 4: know why this stuck with me, but one he talked
Speaker 4: about Jeff really liking quarterbacks like Shuck, who have played
Speaker 4: a lot of football, that he likes what they have
Speaker 4: as far as their arm, they're coachable, they want to
Speaker 4: get better to where he'll take a guy even if
Speaker 4: it's only for a year, because he's that confident in
Speaker 4: what he can do as a play caller, as an
Speaker 4: offensive mind. And I mean, nobody else seemed to really
Speaker 4: acknowledge this or at least talk about it that I've heard,
Speaker 4: but he pretty much said, Jef's gonna do this every year,
Speaker 4: Like maybe he does get a guy who has more
Speaker 4: than one year of eligibility left, maybe one of these
Speaker 4: freshmen that he gets because by the way he keeps
Speaker 4: bringing in talented quarterbacks that are freshmen. So like, maybe
Speaker 4: one of those guys becomes the long term guy for
Speaker 4: many years. But if not, he'll go to the portal
Speaker 4: and feel pretty good about being able to get somebody
Speaker 4: that he can really maximize their ability. So that was
Speaker 4: one of the things he said. But then he also
Speaker 4: mentioned that NFL folks know that if you can succeed
Speaker 4: in the NFL, or if you could succeed in college
Speaker 4: football running Jeff Brohms offense with what he expects out
Speaker 4: of a quarterback that's a really good sign in the
Speaker 4: eyes of those that you know are in the National
Speaker 4: Football League. And as much as Jason Garrett is you know,
Speaker 4: probably not viewed as a great coach, he was better
Speaker 4: than Mike McCarthy. And also, I mean, at least in
Speaker 4: Dallas he was. And also you know, he clearly his
Speaker 4: connections to the NFL, So you know, I would I
Speaker 4: don't think it's gonna happen as far as what I
Speaker 4: was worried about, and that was him going on to
Speaker 4: be good in the NFL and me feeling like better
Speaker 4: because I mean, even if he is a good quarterback
Speaker 4: in the league and he becomes a starter for a
Speaker 4: few years, I don't think I'll look back at the
Speaker 4: nine and four season and feel like, man, what could
Speaker 4: have been? I mean, I won't know until that hypothetical situation,
Speaker 4: I guess presents itself. But I mean I think Louisville,
Speaker 4: I mean, offensively, Louisville was really good this year. And
Speaker 4: that's why I oftentimes bring up the defense, because you know,
Speaker 4: the defense at times had some good games and certainly
Speaker 4: had some good players over the first two years of
Speaker 4: the brom era. But Louisville, in any situation, last year. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you can find plays where Jeff didn't make the right call,
Speaker 4: or maybe they went forward on board then didn't get it,
Speaker 4: or maybe there was a costly turnover. Like the offense
Speaker 4: isn't perfect, but I just can't see a scenario last
Speaker 4: season when Louisville lost a game and we feel like
Speaker 4: the offense didn't do enough. I mean, I don't think
Speaker 4: that's the case at all.
Speaker 3: So I think Louiell's.
Speaker 4: Offense next year could even be better with the sophomore
Speaker 4: Duke Watson and a sophomore Isaac Brown. Chris Bell broke
Speaker 4: out last year, he's back. Colin Lacy, the guy's got
Speaker 4: super talent. Miller Moss that think's going to be another
Speaker 4: good transfer for Jeff. So I just I when I
Speaker 4: see something that's preventable and I don't see people really
Speaker 4: going above and beyond to prevent something that almost kind
Speaker 4: of seems maybe likely, it eats at me. And I
Speaker 4: just think, with Ron English as your DC, what's the
Speaker 4: ceiling for him? Haven't we kind of already got it?
Speaker 4: And if he ends up putting this team in a
Speaker 4: situation once again where the offense scores thirty five or
Speaker 4: forty two and if they have a couple of they
Speaker 4: have a couple of stalled drives where they got to
Speaker 4: get off the field after three or two quick three
Speaker 4: and outs, that shouldn't leave you as vulnerable as Louisville
Speaker 4: has been. And that's happened, and it shouldn't have happened,
Speaker 4: and we can't be surprised if it happens next year.
Speaker 4: And that's just my worry. But again, I mean, if
Speaker 4: the defense is really good next year, and you know,
Speaker 4: they're not a big liability, then that'll be great. I
Speaker 4: just for me, it's not that I'm telling you I
Speaker 4: absolutely expect it. But whenever Louisville nearly collapsed against Stanford
Speaker 4: after the backup quarterback came in and really did a
Speaker 4: good job scoring points. Yeah, the offense didn't extend drives
Speaker 4: at the end of the game, but man, they did
Speaker 4: their part. It was the defense that just became absolutely
Speaker 4: vulnerable and kind of collapsed at the end. And nobody
Speaker 4: was surprised because we've seen it. And therefore, if it
Speaker 4: happens next year, when maybe you don't even have as
Speaker 4: many talented players on defense as you had this year,
Speaker 4: I mean, can we I mean, it'll be maddening. But
Speaker 4: I think that point for me, I mean, it's not
Speaker 4: like I'm gonna be calling for his head to be fired,
Speaker 4: but like that'll be Jeff's fault because we you know,
Speaker 4: like it's happened before, and we keep bringing this guy back.
Speaker 4: So anyways, quick break, We'll come back on the other
Speaker 4: side and wrap this thing up. Quick segment, as we
Speaker 4: tell you, get bye here on the other side. Coffee
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Speaker 4: great Vibes today on the soundtrack.
Speaker 3: And a little bit of everywhere. Yeah, I mean, and
Speaker 3: it's it's just good. It fits. Man.
Speaker 4: I feel like when the when, the when the soundtrack
Speaker 4: of the show is fitting with kind of where we
Speaker 4: are as far as vibes, that's the best case scenario.
Speaker 3: So well done. We have no time left. But I
Speaker 3: guess I'm taking a bow. If you can't see, yeah,
Speaker 3: you should take the bow.
Speaker 4: I get more pushback on this than I expect, and
Speaker 4: it's one of those things where I guess I just
Speaker 4: can't really relate because I don't I know that the
Speaker 4: ACC doing well helps Louisville, and I want the ACC
Speaker 4: to be good, but maybe I always chalk it up
Speaker 4: to the fact that Louisville has been in so many
Speaker 4: leagues in my lifetime as a fan that I just
Speaker 4: have never been able to really have roots as far
Speaker 4: as like, man, I love this league. In fact, I've
Speaker 4: been underwhelmed with the accasons level jointed. Clearly they're better
Speaker 4: off in it than being in you know, the American
Speaker 4: and whatnot. So anyways, when people defend wake Forest, like,
Speaker 4: I don't understand where that's coming from Louisville fans, if
Speaker 4: you know, they're not getting nasty about it, but like
Speaker 4: they really they take issue with me acknowledging that wake
Speaker 4: Forest is the is the problem here? Again, if you
Speaker 4: want to have a conversation the about the way the
Speaker 4: formula works as far as how much importance it is
Speaker 4: to beat teams really bad that are bad, or not
Speaker 4: play teams at all who are in the three hundreds
Speaker 4: because you can't win, that's a different conversation.
Speaker 3: Like that, that's legit, I agree, But it's been this
Speaker 3: way for years.
Speaker 4: And you know, the wake Forest thing, like there's one
Speaker 4: of the schools that I mentioned that that you know
Speaker 4: is a factor and why they're sitting in the seventies
Speaker 4: despite actually having a good resume, and it's Western Carolina.
Speaker 4: They were not terrible last year, but like they were
Speaker 4: in the two hundreds, the average finished for them in
Speaker 4: the last decade is easily two hundred mid two hundreds.
Speaker 4: But I mean last year Detroit Mercy went one in
Speaker 4: thirty one. That was not a long term scheduling thing,
Speaker 4: meaning you didn't schedule them years out. They I mean
Speaker 4: USC of state compon State, North Carolina A and T
Speaker 4: and Detroit Mercy have been at the basement of college
Speaker 4: basketball for many years now, and you know that when
Speaker 4: you schedule them, and it's just weak. And that's why
Speaker 4: you're in the position you're in if you're awake and
Speaker 4: it's hurting the ACC. Louisville falling last night after beating
Speaker 4: them by double digits is an issue. Wake Forest, it's
Speaker 4: their fault and also.
Speaker 3: Sounds like them problem.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And look keep in mind, like Winthrop, they're a
Speaker 4: good team for who they are, and if you won't
Speaker 4: schedule them, you're you're weak. Like if you avoid them
Speaker 4: and go schedule North Carolina A and T, like, just
Speaker 4: get out of the ACC so we don't have to
Speaker 4: worry about you hurt in the league. I mean that's
Speaker 4: a little dramatic, but I mean like it's just so avoidable.
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