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<v Speaker 2>On today's show, we got the latest in the travels

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<v Speaker 2>with Natalie Saga, auditions for White House Press Secretary, a

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<v Speaker 2>Then Love It sits down with Iowa Senate candidate Josh

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so here are some headlines from this week

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<v Speaker 2>that you would think might catch the president's eye. Oil

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<v Speaker 2>rises to three week high, gas prices could set August

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<v Speaker 2>record high with no progress seen on hor Mooz. Housing

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<v Speaker 2>market is on track for its worst year since twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>US workers are paying more for healthcare and next year

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<v Speaker 2>will be worse. Walmart posts slowest sales growth in years

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<v Speaker 2>as Americans titan wallets. US debt hits forty trillion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>faster than forecasters expected, and Dow falls five hundred points

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<v Speaker 2>after Treasury plan to tamp down yields fails. Just the

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of days, Dan, those headlines.

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<v Speaker 3>Not great, as they say.

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<v Speaker 2>Unclear if Donald Trump is aware of any of these headlines.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if his human printer has printed them

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<v Speaker 2>out for him. Natalie Harp, who has become rather famous.

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<v Speaker 2>But either way, his only public events this week have

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<v Speaker 2>been an Oval office greeting with a teenage lifeguard, an

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<v Speaker 2>impromptu press tour of his White House renovation projects, new

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<v Speaker 2>helipad very exciting, a meeting with crypto leaders that is,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, the industry that has made him personally one

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars richer, and on Thursday, a rare appearance at

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<v Speaker 2>a Rose Garden event with his wife, where he sat

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<v Speaker 2>quietly while she spoke, good afternoon.

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<v Speaker 4>I heard you missed me.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, I am she did? She did here that we

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<v Speaker 2>missed her. Look at that happy couple, so in love

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<v Speaker 2>holding hands. What's their secret?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It's just one of the odds at

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<v Speaker 3>this incredibly heartwarming, not at all awkward photo OPA scheduled

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<v Speaker 3>this week in the middle of Natalie harpgate.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it was a complete coincidence. And usually Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump shows up at events and sits quietly and doesn't speak.

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<v Speaker 2>Famous for that that is so so the John Osoff

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<v Speaker 2>riff that kicked off a week of hysteria on the right.

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<v Speaker 2>It began with the senator saying that Trump doesn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to do the job of being president. He wants to

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<v Speaker 2>trade stocks and build his ballroom and travel with Natalie

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<v Speaker 2>minus the actual travel part. I kind of think this

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<v Speaker 2>week proves his point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is watching him this week, it's just a

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<v Speaker 3>reminder that he is a very very old, very very

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<v Speaker 3>stubborn man who's a complete narcissist. And we've been watching

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<v Speaker 3>him for a very very long time now, but even

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<v Speaker 3>after watching Trump for all these years, it is still

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<v Speaker 3>stunning to the degree that he cannot even pretend to

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<v Speaker 3>give a shit about anyone or anything else other than

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<v Speaker 3>the things the top of his list, which happened to

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<v Speaker 3>be helipads, ballrooms, enriching himself.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, obviously the Natalie comments sort of just

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<v Speaker 2>touched off the drama of the week, But that was

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<v Speaker 2>the message of Ossoff's speech there, And I think why

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<v Speaker 2>it was so effective is because everyone can look at

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump in everything that he does and it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>and other than that, he pops off and yells at

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats and people who've crossed him in some way, and

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<v Speaker 2>other than that, you don't see much of them. That's

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess the whole thing comes down to the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that there Natalie Harp is the one who controls information

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<v Speaker 3>that goes to the president. So maybe he's unaware of

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<v Speaker 3>everything else that's happening in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but just you.

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<v Speaker 3>Would think that anyone who turned on a TV to

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<v Speaker 3>some channel other than Fox News would see what everyone

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<v Speaker 3>cares about, what everyone's worried about, what their political city was,

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<v Speaker 3>and they would try to do something to address it. Instead,

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<v Speaker 3>he just keeps digging a deeper hole on a daily basis.

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<v Speaker 2>And one thing we've been learning this week, and some

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<v Speaker 2>of it had been reported in the past, is that

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<v Speaker 2>other people in Trump's orbit and in the White House

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<v Speaker 2>and in the federal government have been a little concerned

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<v Speaker 2>at times that Natalie Harp is his main and sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>only source of information, and that if you want him

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<v Speaker 2>to see a briefing memo or a story or a tweet,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to text Natalie and she'll print it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Which makes this the development that ms now reported just

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday even more interesting and troubling, Natalie Harp apparently declined

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<v Speaker 2>multiple times over more than a year to seek a

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<v Speaker 2>routine security clearance required for most White House staffers, let

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<v Speaker 2>alone the president's closest aid, and this apparently alarmed national

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<v Speaker 2>security officials, Secret Service and others. Why do you think so, Dan, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, this is studying. I mean, really, if you were

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<v Speaker 3>to pick the person that you would want to influence

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<v Speaker 3>as some sort of foreign entity or person with the

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<v Speaker 3>financial interest in the White House, it would be the

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<v Speaker 3>person who controls all information of the president. By some reports,

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<v Speaker 3>she texts with world leaders on Trump's behalf. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>not just that she chooses which truths to put in

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<v Speaker 3>front of him, or which tweets to print out, or

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<v Speaker 3>which crazy things from I don't know four Chan to

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<v Speaker 3>put in front of him. It's that she is the

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<v Speaker 3>conduit to him. Is how you get in touch with him.

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<v Speaker 3>She decides who he speaks to, she will type on

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<v Speaker 3>his phone. And the fact that this person does not

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<v Speaker 3>have the same security clearance that a White House intern

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<v Speaker 3>needs to pass is truly indeply irresponsible.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think there's any conspiracy to it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they failed to do security clearances for it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>systemic problem in this White House for lots of the

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<v Speaker 2>White House staff. But it is sloppy, as is everything

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<v Speaker 2>else they do, and especially for people who are that

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<v Speaker 2>close to the president all the time. I mean, she

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<v Speaker 2>got on the secret plane with him, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>someone who for a year didn't have a security clearance.

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<v Speaker 2>And again this is like, you get to the White House,

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<v Speaker 2>you fill out this form, it's the s F eighty six.

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<v Speaker 2>They ask about your entire life if the FBI interviews you, like,

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<v Speaker 2>we've all gone through this and to just be a

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<v Speaker 2>top aid to the president, maybe his closest aid and

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<v Speaker 2>not having done that at all is crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>And you fill it out before you get to the

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<v Speaker 3>White House. Yes, filling it out is one of the

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<v Speaker 3>conditions for entering the White House for most people.

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<v Speaker 2>And she wasn't there in the first term. Again, right,

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't like she's a returning character. She was at

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<v Speaker 2>oaan N.

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<v Speaker 3>So how many ends are there? God damn it.

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<v Speaker 2>She was at an N and he like first met

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<v Speaker 2>her in twenty nineteen or twenty twenty or something with

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<v Speaker 2>the convention. But anyway, so like, yeah, she came to

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<v Speaker 2>the White House for the first time in twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>and just you know, just started printing tweets for him,

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<v Speaker 2>just and that's it, nothing else, nothing else, and writing

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<v Speaker 2>him notes that say you are all that matters to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get back to that synergy we used

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<v Speaker 2>to have where we talk about everything and nothing. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to bring you joy, to feel like we can

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<v Speaker 2>get through a day without ever hav to talk work.

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<v Speaker 2>I want things to always be right between us. Those

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<v Speaker 2>I am just reading from notes that The New York

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<v Speaker 2>Times obtained themselves. These are actual notes that Natalie Harp

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<v Speaker 2>wrote to Donald Trump and left them in his personal spaces,

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<v Speaker 2>alarming the Secret Service. These are all facts that are

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<v Speaker 2>known that are out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, once lives in a locker room so she could

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<v Speaker 3>be closer to him because she didn't have a room

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<v Speaker 3>in one of the Trump clubs.

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<v Speaker 2>JVL in his newsletter he had a good take on this.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's it's somewhat similar to yours, right, which

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<v Speaker 2>is he wrote. Maga responded to all this by going

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<v Speaker 2>into high dudgeon and being outraged that Osoff would dare

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<v Speaker 2>suggest Trump was banging his human printer. But Osoff didn't

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<v Speaker 2>suggest that he was pointing to the much weirder, unstable,

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<v Speaker 2>and dangerous reality. The president of the United States has

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<v Speaker 2>an in house stocker, and he relies on this uninjured

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<v Speaker 2>woman to an extent that is both hilarious and terrifying.

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<v Speaker 3>There's been some reports that they refer to her as

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<v Speaker 3>his human binkie.

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<v Speaker 5>But I do want to you do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Maggie Haberman has said.

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<v Speaker 3>That which adults shouldn't need binkies.

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<v Speaker 2>This is now, this is now the second episode. You

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<v Speaker 2>and I have talked to You and I have talked

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<v Speaker 2>about binkies.

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<v Speaker 3>What do we talk We talked about we talked.

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<v Speaker 2>About lovevies, we talked about with the Max Miller. Oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about the blue Bunny.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, comfort items for Yeah. But in that case we

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<v Speaker 3>were referring to small children, not the West, the United States,

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<v Speaker 3>the leonder of the free world. The issue here is

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<v Speaker 3>not that Democrats are suggesting that they're having an affair, because, honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>do we really think Trump's still in that era? No?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think someone of his advanced age and deteriorating

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<v Speaker 3>physical capacity is not having a lot of sex? No?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I think she's obsessed with him, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think he uh really likes her because of what he likes. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>like she she will do literally anything for him, including

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<v Speaker 2>later that she wasn't fast enough.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, she's not as girlfriend, she's his nurse maid.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the point we're making here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true. Believe it or not. The extended Maggie universe

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<v Speaker 2>has collectively decided to devote most of their energy this

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<v Speaker 2>week toward expressing outrage over Osoff's three words travel with Natalie.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. That's all he said about her, which has

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely nothing to do with feeling threatened by Ossof's political

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<v Speaker 2>rise or wanting to be seen by Trump defending Natalie's honor.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's one oscar worthy performance from Scott Jennings.

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<v Speaker 6>He unleashed a comment so vile against a young Republican

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<v Speaker 7>What we are learning from Democratic men right now is

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<v Speaker 7>the Party of Women, But is there anything uglier than

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<v Speaker 6>For one thing. Wink wink.

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<v Speaker 7>They talk about us Off like he's the next Bill Clinton.

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<v Speaker 7>Sounds like he shares Clinton's views about women in the workplace.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe they're right.

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<v Speaker 7>What he said devalued every woman who goes to Washington

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<v Speaker 7>to serve our country, and it sent a signal to

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<v Speaker 7>even in the year of our Lord twenty twenty six,

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<v Speaker 7>with men like John Asoff around, you'll never be truly viewed.

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<v Speaker 7>Is anything other than a sex object in a political punchline?

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<v Speaker 2>Sir, this is a Wendy's This is travel with Natalie,

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<v Speaker 2>is what he said. The President wants to travel with Natalie.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't watch a lot of CNN, and

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<v Speaker 3>if I was a CNN, I know I'm gonna I'm

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<v Speaker 3>getting there. I remember served one of those clips on

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<v Speaker 3>Instagram or TikTok or Twitter about that shows some giant

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<v Speaker 3>fight on a CNN set. I scored my pass. It

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<v Speaker 3>do not need that in my life. So when did

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<v Speaker 3>the goate come into play here?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's a great question. I am not a

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<v Speaker 2>frequent viewer of those of those CNN clips either, and

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<v Speaker 2>so it just sort of appeared one day.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the most offensive part of that whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly to me, that was distracting for you. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 3>focus on on the cojin argument.

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<v Speaker 2>You're saying that's even more vile than what John Osoff

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<v Speaker 2>unleashed on this poor, defenseless woman by saying that the

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<v Speaker 2>president likes to travel with her.

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<v Speaker 3>It sends a message to every man with a weak

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<v Speaker 2>Now, on one of those CNN panels, we could have

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<v Speaker 2>played this clip, but there were so many Scott Jennings

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<v Speaker 2>clips this week that you know, we had to pick

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<v Speaker 2>and choose. But someone said, oh, I'm so sick of

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<v Speaker 2>the fake outrage and he lost his ship. Not quite

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Mockler, get your fucking hand out of my face,

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<v Speaker 2>losing his shit Scott Jennings has done in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>but was like, how dare you put words in my

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<v Speaker 2>mouth and say this is fake? This is I believe this,

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<v Speaker 2>and I am defending her honor and this enrages me.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a quote from Thursday Mornings playbook about Scott Jennings.

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<v Speaker 2>Historyonics others in Trump World dubbed Jennings jockeying as a

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<v Speaker 2>fairly obvious public audition for a White House Press secretary

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<v Speaker 2>job he's been eyeing since the transition. The clips of

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<v Speaker 2>Jennings defending Natalie made their way around the White House. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>How how did they get there?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>In part because Jennings sent them to several senior staffers.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, So he was so angry and outrage in

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<v Speaker 2>such a genuine way that he yelled on CNN and

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<v Speaker 2>on his whatever radio show. I don't know how you

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<v Speaker 2>get it on the internet, and then got the clips

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<v Speaker 2>already and then sent them to the people in the

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<v Speaker 2>White House he hoped would hire him for the job

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<v Speaker 2>of press secretary because he's just so genuinely upset about everything.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think, Danny think Scotty might get the job?

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<v Speaker 2>He was number three on my list. We did this,

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<v Speaker 2>We did this last episode.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna hold off on this, but I'll do

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<v Speaker 3>it right now. I know everyone listens every episode, but

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<v Speaker 3>for those of you who missed, John and I did

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<v Speaker 3>a very serious but very fake game where we power

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<v Speaker 3>rank possible contenders. Trump has not picked the person yet,

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<v Speaker 3>but you you out played me in that game. I

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<v Speaker 3>did not have Scott Jennings. You picked No. One, which

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<v Speaker 3>was which is still correct at this moment. Mm hmmm hm.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I picked Mark Rubio as a joke still possible.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess yeah, you did great. You he did excellent

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<v Speaker 3>that game. Here's the thing about the job of presserirator

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump. It requires you to go on TV lie

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<v Speaker 3>and just generally base yourself publicly on a daily basis.

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<v Speaker 2>Well check, he's got that.

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<v Speaker 3>So basically he wants to do the same job, but

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<v Speaker 3>presumably with a pay cut. I guess yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's got that part nailed. But his problem

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<v Speaker 2>is he's a giant pussy. And Caroline Levitt, whatever else

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<v Speaker 2>you want to say about her, she's pretty unflappable in

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<v Speaker 2>that job. She got the lying part right that you

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<v Speaker 2>just mentioned, Like, she's nailed that same thing with you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah Hockey Sanders, but they they are not nearly as

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<v Speaker 2>emotional as Scott Jennings is. I mean, he almost cried

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<v Speaker 2>when Adam Mockler put up his hand on CNN. He

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<v Speaker 2>loses his shit on panels constantly, and Caroline Levitt never

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<v Speaker 2>lost her shit in that briefing room.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I tend to think he probably gets a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a beta, a little bit of a beta, yeah, little, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he's a snowflake beta. I think he probably gets plaudits

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<v Speaker 3>for that sort of losing his shit on CNN. That's

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<v Speaker 3>probably what they're going for, that's why they pay him.

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<v Speaker 3>But in the White House briefing room, that's just not

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<v Speaker 3>a particular effective way of doing your job. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 3>would be bad. He would be bad at the job.

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<v Speaker 3>It's worth noting the guy. I'm pretty sure it was

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<v Speaker 3>like a relatively mid level staffer from Mitch McConnell for

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<v Speaker 3>many years before he was elevated into this role of

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<v Speaker 3>America's heel on television by CNN.

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<v Speaker 2>He also was he's like put.

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<v Speaker 3>Punching way above his white class here.

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<v Speaker 2>He was also very much against Trump in twenty sixteen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so he was. He was an early never Trumper that

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<v Speaker 2>quickly switched.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is how he got on CNN in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I think he was a never Trumper. Then,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he was an anti anti and now he's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, now he's a full Trumper.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm sure the commersion was totally sincere and done

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<v Speaker 3>in good faith.

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<v Speaker 2>Loill, everything he does is sincere, and if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>believe so, he will send you the clip.

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<v Speaker 3>How could a man who considers Mitch McConnell a father

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<v Speaker 3>figure to him love Donald Trump in such a way.

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<v Speaker 2>There's another clip of him. I could play another of

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<v Speaker 2>him on friend Adam Friedlan show, where he basically is like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I like put on a show. It's like wrestling. I

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<v Speaker 2>do like. And then at one point Adam's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's I'll give you any topic and you have to

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<v Speaker 2>argue the topic, and you have to argue the position,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it's not your position, and he gives I

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<v Speaker 2>forget what it was, but he gives him some liberal

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<v Speaker 2>position and it was like frightening watching Scott just like

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<v Speaker 2>get right into it and argue the position is if

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<v Speaker 2>he completely believed it. So again, that part is all

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<v Speaker 2>why he would be a great Press secretary for Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do not think he can handle the pressure

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<v Speaker 2>because he is a pussy.

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<v Speaker 3>I really have to say, heading into this podcast, I

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<v Speaker 3>did not my over under on your use of the

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<v Speaker 3>term pussy was definitely not too and in fact, in

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<v Speaker 3>the nine years been doing this podcasts, maybe the first

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<v Speaker 3>few times you on.

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<v Speaker 2>This podcast, well, it's just it's the only thing I

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<v Speaker 2>can think of when I think about Scott Jennings, that

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<v Speaker 2>the word the word yes.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>a little uh Willies earlier this week.

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<v Speaker 5>I love it for a long day.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a great way to just have a little

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<v Speaker 1>ABC or local liquor store.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a notice story that basically says Donald Trump is

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<v Speaker 2>seriously considering Scott Jennings for this job. That he is

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<v Speaker 2>calling around. He's doing his thing where he calls around

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<v Speaker 2>people and asks what do you think of Scott? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you think he's been doing on TV? So this is

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<v Speaker 2>live that he's he's thinking about this. But at the

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<v Speaker 2>very end of end the notice story, we should say

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<v Speaker 2>is basically the headline is like Trump is thinking he

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<v Speaker 2>wants to pick a man because he's had a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of women in this job. Who's the only man, oh

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<v Speaker 2>Sean Spicer, right, Shawn Spicer. So he's thinking of maybe

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<v Speaker 2>having a man. Scott Jennings was named Ari Fleischer was

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<v Speaker 2>named God Help us. And then but at the very

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<v Speaker 2>end of the notice piece, it ends with this tidbit quote.

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<v Speaker 2>A person close to the White House predicted that all

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<v Speaker 2>of the attention on the President's close aide Natalie Harp

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<v Speaker 2>could catapult her into the position. So to be fair,

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<v Speaker 2>as we said, Harper did do a stint on the

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<v Speaker 2>right wing outlet one American news network OANN before working

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<v Speaker 2>for Trump, and where she sounded like a totally normal

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<v Speaker 2>news anchor. Let's listen, we.

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<v Speaker 4>Can't talk about winning back the House and Senate in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty two and the White House in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>four if we don't act on the fact that we

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<v Speaker 4>actually did win the White House and the Senate in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty. We shouldn't be afraid to say that because

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<v Speaker 4>it's true. We the people know America as we know

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<v Speaker 4>it could be ending in the next two or four years,

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<v Speaker 4>which is exactly what President Trump is warning of. It

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<v Speaker 4>just shows how desperate the Democrats were to find the

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<v Speaker 4>votes to make up for President Trump's insurmountable lead.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, yes, I mean not to nitpick here, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not sure she fully clocked what insurmountable meant.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, I mean some real North Korea shit there, So

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<v Speaker 2>she has that down.

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<v Speaker 3>By definition, the lead was quite mountable.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think, Natalie for Press secretary? You think

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<v Speaker 2>that's how this whole thing ends.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't imagine Trump separating himself from his human Binkie

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<v Speaker 3>for several hours a day while she preps for and

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<v Speaker 3>does the briefing.

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<v Speaker 2>Or her separating herself from him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it goes both ways. Yeah, she would, even though

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<v Speaker 3>it would obviously be a very lucrative position for her

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<v Speaker 3>in the long run, she would become very famous, she

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<v Speaker 3>would maybe get to graduate to a network better than

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<v Speaker 3>Ann Newsmax, but she would turn it down because it

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<v Speaker 3>would require separation from Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I mean to be fair to her, she

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<v Speaker 2>has more power right now. She's probably one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most powerful people in the world in the world written now,

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<v Speaker 2>why would she want to go be White House Press secretary?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, she is Geppetto to Trump's Pinocchio, just moving around

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<v Speaker 3>one tweet at a time.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, one more story about women being forced to

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<v Speaker 2>babysit Trump administration, Bozo's before we move on, because there's

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<v Speaker 2>two this week. Jesse Jennifer Heggseeth, wife of Pete hegg Seth,

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<v Speaker 2>gets a big story in The New York Times Today

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<v Speaker 2>on Thursday, where she's described as her husband's most influential

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<v Speaker 2>advisor and de facto producer, apparently attending highly sensitive meetings

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<v Speaker 2>traveling with her husband to quote keep him out of

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<v Speaker 2>trouble and conducting job interviews at the pen of Gone.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you make of that story, Dan, It seemed

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<v Speaker 2>a bit odd to me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not your normal relationship. But then I tried to think,

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<v Speaker 3>imagine you or I were secretary of Defense or something

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<v Speaker 3>like it. Okay, h and I know my wife and

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<v Speaker 3>I know your wife, and so I kind of imagine

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<v Speaker 3>that both those cases, they would be our closest advisors.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, although I would ask Emily would be like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have time for your boring ship.

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<v Speaker 3>No, she would. She'd be producing you.

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<v Speaker 2>She would. She would, really, I don't know I would

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<v Speaker 2>I had been into the production part of it for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think she would be interviewing your pres secretary.

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<v Speaker 2>She would not care about the meeting with the Ukrainian

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<v Speaker 2>officials with.

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<v Speaker 3>Me now, but she and they it would be deeply

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<v Speaker 3>involved with both Halle and Emily and both cases.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. And and and clearly they'd have to be

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<v Speaker 2>on the road with us to keep us out of trouble,

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<v Speaker 2>because we've.

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<v Speaker 3>Done a lot of travel together over the years, and

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<v Speaker 3>we were pretty we're pretty boring. Oh No, one drink

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<v Speaker 3>and then in bed by nine thirty so we can read.

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<v Speaker 2>The news could stand again in a little more trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, enough of that, let's talk about the midterms,

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<v Speaker 2>where democratic primary results continue to drive the take economy,

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<v Speaker 2>which is obviously what matters most.

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<v Speaker 5>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Politico. This is about Tuesday's results. Tuesday's primary results.

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<v Speaker 2>Hashtag resistance. Democrats are flopping in primaries. Here's Axios. The

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<v Speaker 2>rise of DSA is killing off resistance one point Democrats,

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<v Speaker 2>and most definitively from the Atlantic quote, the resistance is over.

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<v Speaker 2>Those headlines refer in part to Tuesday night's results in Florida,

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<v Speaker 2>where State Representative Angie Nixon, a relatively unknown DSA candidate,

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<v Speaker 2>won a massive upset against Alexander Vinman in the US

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<v Speaker 2>Senate Democratic primary. You might remember Vinman as the former

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<v Speaker 2>Trump national security aid from the first administration who became

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<v Speaker 2>a national figures a key witness during Trump's twenty nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>impeachment hearings. That's the first impeachment extra points if you

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<v Speaker 2>can remember what that was about. Vinman was widely expected

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<v Speaker 2>to win, refused to debate to even debate Nixon, and

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<v Speaker 2>outraised her by fifteen million dollars. She raised less than

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<v Speaker 2>a million dollars total for a Senate race in Florida

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<v Speaker 2>and won the primary. Nixon now advances to the general election,

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<v Speaker 2>where she'll faced Senator Ashley Moody, who took Marco Rubio's

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<v Speaker 2>seat when he was selected as Secretary of State. You

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<v Speaker 2>wrote a great message box about this result, encouraging other

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats to learn from Nixon's unexpected win. Tell us about it.

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<v Speaker 2>How'd you win, How'd you pull it off? What should

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<v Speaker 2>other dums take away?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure Nixon, as you mentioned to someone who she's a liberal.

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<v Speaker 3>She joined the DSA during the campaign. But the typical coalition,

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<v Speaker 3>both historically and in this cycle for DSA or very

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<v Speaker 3>progressive members has been young voters, white college educator liberals,

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<v Speaker 3>and a failure to make inroads with black voters and

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<v Speaker 3>voter in more working class voters. Nixon won here because

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<v Speaker 3>she ran up huge numbers among black voters in Florida,

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<v Speaker 3>and she won the counties that have the largest segment

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<v Speaker 3>of black voters. She won by thirty points. Now she

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<v Speaker 3>is from Jacksonville and dufaul County, which is a huge

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<v Speaker 3>slice of black voters, but she also did very well

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<v Speaker 3>in the I four corridor, which is Tampa and Orlando.

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<v Speaker 3>She did well in Miami Dade. We're also a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of black voters. And even more importantly and notable, she

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<v Speaker 3>did really well in what's called the Black Belt in

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<v Speaker 3>northern Florida, which is the rural areas with large black communities.

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<v Speaker 3>She just cleaned up in those counties. And then so

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<v Speaker 3>she took this really impressive number with black voters and

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<v Speaker 3>then combined it with younger voters, more progressive voters, more

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<v Speaker 3>college educated voters, to give herself a thirteen point win

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<v Speaker 3>in this primary. This when you wonder why like these

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<v Speaker 3>progressive candidates fail in pretqularly presidential primer, you know, Bernie Sanders,

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<v Speaker 3>Howard Dean, Gary Hart, Bill Bradley, It's because they can

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<v Speaker 3>do the half of the coalition with young and white voters,

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<v Speaker 3>which can get them through in the old calendar Iowa

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<v Speaker 3>and New Hampshire, and then you get to South Carolina

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<v Speaker 3>in the South, all these black voters, and the only

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<v Speaker 3>candidate who's being able to put the coalition together that

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<v Speaker 3>allowed you to win is Obama because he had college

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<v Speaker 3>educated with liberals, young voters and black voters that have

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<v Speaker 3>really high percentage and so like as they think about

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<v Speaker 3>like how at a very progressive Democrat could win the

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<v Speaker 3>Democratic nomination. It is going to look a lot more

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<v Speaker 3>like what Angie Nixon did in Florida than Abdul Sayah

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<v Speaker 3>did in Michigan or AOC does in New York or

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<v Speaker 3>anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It also reminded me of I mean, in Florida in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen. That is basically how Andrew Gillham, running against DeSantis,

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<v Speaker 2>came so close to winning that state. He didn't win it,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was a more progressive candidate, did really really

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<v Speaker 2>well with black voters, college educated voters, younger voters, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was enough to what was it like eighteen thousand

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<v Speaker 2>votes or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's but I think it's how he beat

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<v Speaker 3>Gwen Graham in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Right in the primary. In the primary, it does seem

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<v Speaker 2>like Nixon will have quite a bit of an uphill climb,

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<v Speaker 2>we should say, to win the general election. They you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the forecasters moved it from one of them

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<v Speaker 2>moved it from I think likely Republican to safe Republican.

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<v Speaker 2>And just because I think that now, I will say

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen her now do a couple of interviews post race,

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<v Speaker 2>and I watched her but she's very good, very good,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you did not, like if they did not

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<v Speaker 2>report that she was DSA, you would never guess that

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<v Speaker 2>she was DSA.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, she is a work true. This is a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of sometimes the DSA candidates, not all of them, but

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<v Speaker 3>some of them have sort of the I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>this is not a fair thing, but this was usually

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<v Speaker 3>described for chessca hang with the faculty faculty lounge problem

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<v Speaker 3>right where how they talk about things, And that's not

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<v Speaker 3>actually actually a fair characterization of French Kahong's life, who

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<v Speaker 3>worked herself up as a restaurant or a chef. But

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<v Speaker 3>Angie Nixon is a is working class. She is a

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<v Speaker 3>longtime champion of working class but she's an organized a

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<v Speaker 3>community organizer, and so she when she communicates, she communicates

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<v Speaker 3>like a community organizer, not like some sort of academic

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<v Speaker 3>who's just sort of studying these problems. She's someone who

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<v Speaker 3>is deeply embedded in trying to actually solve the problems

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<v Speaker 3>that working class families are dealing with.

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<v Speaker 9>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>And also she was very I mean, so I think

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<v Speaker 2>Willie Geis asked her, so do you support abolishing prisons?

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, no, no, I don't support abolishing prisons. I

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<v Speaker 2>support getting rid of for profit prisons that are being

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<v Speaker 2>like run horribly and costing us a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>But like it was just she had all the answers.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very good.

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<v Speaker 3>I just so the challenge. The challenge here is if

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<v Speaker 3>there is one state in the country where the DSA

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<v Speaker 3>label is a problem, in particular, it's Florida because that

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<v Speaker 3>so much of the of the Latino vote in that

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<v Speaker 3>state has roots in Cuba and Venezuela, and the socialism

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<v Speaker 3>hit attacks hit much harder there. It's one of the

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<v Speaker 3>things that has moved Florida to the right in recent years.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, it's just it's a gigantic state, so it's

637
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<v Speaker 2>super expensive, and it's not the kind of state where

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<v Speaker 2>you can say, all right, well, you know, look beyond

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<v Speaker 2>the label and actually come meet me, you know, because

640
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<v Speaker 2>it's just it's too big for that. So that's why

641
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:20.920
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be tough anyway. So Vinman wasn't the only

642
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:25.079
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote resistance figure to lose this cycle. Dan Goldman

643
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:30.519
<v Speaker 2>lead Majority Council during Trump's twenty nineteen impeachment Representative Diana

644
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<v Speaker 2>to get twenty twenty one House impeachment manager. Both lost

645
00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:38.319
<v Speaker 2>their primaries to left wing challengers. Harry Dunn, Capitol police officer,

646
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:40.400
<v Speaker 2>in January sixth, lost his bid for a House seat

647
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<v Speaker 2>in Maryland. George Conway, trump critic, co founder of the

648
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Lincoln Project Bulwark, came in fifth with just six percent

649
00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:52.319
<v Speaker 2>of the vote in the Democratic primary to replace Jerry Nadler.

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<v Speaker 2>So this has spawned a lot of resistance's overtakes. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you think about those takes? Do these losses suggest

652
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<v Speaker 2>a real trend to you? Or is the take machine

653
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<v Speaker 2>trying a bit too hard here?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the take machine, by definition is always trying

655
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<v Speaker 3>a bit too hard fair, But there is something real

656
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<v Speaker 3>here and it's actually should not be that surprising. The

657
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<v Speaker 3>Trump era began eleven years ago when he started running. Yeah,

658
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<v Speaker 3>he won election a decade ago. It's been a very

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<v Speaker 3>long time, and that decade actually feels longer than an

660
00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:28.360
<v Speaker 3>actual ten years because of the pandemic. Here we are

661
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:31.360
<v Speaker 3>we are struggling to remember in people who covered it

662
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:34.800
<v Speaker 3>every day, what happened in Trump's impeachment in twenty nineteen.

663
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:36.800
<v Speaker 3>Is it really feels like one hundred years ago?

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<v Speaker 2>Ukraine perfect call Zelenski was involved, but it was before Yestery.

665
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:43.440
<v Speaker 3>But we didn't even know Zelensky like we know him now.

666
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<v Speaker 3>He was even our hero was just a guy's a

667
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<v Speaker 3>comedian who got a job, and so like that. That's

668
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:54.159
<v Speaker 3>all old and feels like in the past. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that what has changed is that, and this is a

670
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<v Speaker 3>good thing for Democrats, is we do not of ourselves

671
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<v Speaker 3>entirely as in opposition to Trump. And so standing up

672
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<v Speaker 3>and fighting Trump is necessary in a democratic primary politically,

673
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<v Speaker 3>but it's insufficient. You have to be fighting for something

674
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<v Speaker 3>bigger than that. You have defined your something as someone

675
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<v Speaker 3>who's actually fighting to solve these big problems that I

676
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:17.280
<v Speaker 3>think people of the last year or so have realized

677
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:20.679
<v Speaker 3>are more than just Trump, Like it's a rigged economy.

678
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:23.239
<v Speaker 3>It's people can't get healthcare, and Trump is contributed to that,

679
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:25.480
<v Speaker 3>and he's certainly not helping it. But if you're simply

680
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:27.519
<v Speaker 3>focused on Trump, that's the problem. The other thing that

681
00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:30.920
<v Speaker 3>I think defined a lot of these resistance one point

682
00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:35.079
<v Speaker 3>zero characters is they are institutionalist by nature. Right, we were

683
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<v Speaker 3>going to bring him down through Robert Mulla, We're going

684
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<v Speaker 3>to bring him down through impeachment, and that stuff I

685
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:44.400
<v Speaker 3>think feels dated here and doesn't really, it doesn't have

686
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.039
<v Speaker 3>this hit in the same way to before, So they

687
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:48.039
<v Speaker 3>are a little so those folks are sometimes naturally out

688
00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:50.039
<v Speaker 3>of touch with what's going on. But then when you

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<v Speaker 3>look at each of these individual races, it really wasn't

690
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<v Speaker 3>about them being resistance figures. Dan Goldman went down because

691
00:35:55.880 --> 00:36:00.199
<v Speaker 3>of a huge dispute over Israel. George Conway was a

692
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:05.239
<v Speaker 3>Republican with relatively low name ID running against a really

693
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<v Speaker 3>stack field of local elected officials like michae Lasher and

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<v Speaker 3>Alex Boris.

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<v Speaker 2>That was my problem with this is I just don't

696
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:14.480
<v Speaker 2>think any of the dots connect, Like, yes, what they

697
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:16.480
<v Speaker 2>have in common is they all are you could call

698
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:20.000
<v Speaker 2>them all resistance figures. But every single race was different

699
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:21.079
<v Speaker 2>for different reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was someone amous how in each of

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<v Speaker 3>the races Trump was really wasn't that big a deal.

702
00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:29.519
<v Speaker 3>He wasn't the dominant figure in the conversation, which wasn't

703
00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:32.000
<v Speaker 3>good for the people who became famous for standing up

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<v Speaker 3>to Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and it's also not just how long we've been

706
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:37.840
<v Speaker 2>doing this, which is a long time, a long time,

707
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:40.840
<v Speaker 2>but it's what is coming next, which is like we

708
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:43.599
<v Speaker 2>are almost at the end of the Trump era. Yeah,

709
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:46.760
<v Speaker 2>you can see the light, right, and so if you're

710
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:48.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and this is going to be especially true

711
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:52.559
<v Speaker 2>in the twenty twenty eight primaries. But like all of

712
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:54.400
<v Speaker 2>those Democratic candidates that are going to run for president,

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<v Speaker 2>why would they talk that much about Trump? They'll probably

714
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<v Speaker 2>talk about how they're going to fix the damage Trump

715
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<v Speaker 2>has done. But like there it's it's sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>we dealt with this in the campaign in two thousand

717
00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:09.039
<v Speaker 2>and seven, two thousand and eight, it's very similar where

718
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:12.400
<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of Bush pashing, obviously, but at

719
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:15.320
<v Speaker 2>some point in that primary, I remember Obama was like

720
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:18.199
<v Speaker 2>the real question is, like we know that George Bush

721
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:20.599
<v Speaker 2>isn't coming back as president, and the question is what's next,

722
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:22.519
<v Speaker 2>Like what's next for the country and where are we

723
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:24.880
<v Speaker 2>going to go and what's going to happen and and

724
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:28.079
<v Speaker 2>like that's where all these Democratic candidates are going to

725
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:30.159
<v Speaker 2>have to pivot very soon after the midterms.

726
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:32.719
<v Speaker 3>And then we won the nomination, and we ran approximately

727
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:35.519
<v Speaker 3>eighty million dollars of ads with a video of John

728
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<v Speaker 3>McKinney getting into a golf cart with George W.

729
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<v Speaker 4>Bush.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that'll be and that will be the campaign against

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<v Speaker 2>Jade Vance.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, there will be or.

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<v Speaker 2>Or if Mark or Rubio somehow makes it out or anyone,

734
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<v Speaker 2>if anyone is the nominee connected to the Trump administration. Yes,

735
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<v Speaker 2>then that that six months or seven months or whatever

736
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:53.920
<v Speaker 2>the campaign, that will all be about Donald Trump. And

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<v Speaker 2>then but in terms of a primary and what you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do, uh for the country, it's it's beyond Trump

739
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:01.440
<v Speaker 2>at that point. So I think that's something to keep

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<v Speaker 2>in mind for people.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's turn to Alaska. Former Democratic Congresswoman Mary Peltola was

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<v Speaker 2>the top vote getter in the state's jungle primary on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>where she outperformed ablic Dan Sullivan by five point four points,

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<v Speaker 2>with ninety eight percent of the vote reported. Alaska unsurprisingly

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<v Speaker 2>takes a while to count. There's still some few rural

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<v Speaker 2>areas coming in. The top four vote getters now advanced

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<v Speaker 2>to the November runoff election, which is expected to include

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<v Speaker 2>the other Dan Sullivan. Dan J. Sullivan Junior, a retired

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<v Speaker 2>school teacher who Republicans maintain entered the election to sabotage

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<v Speaker 2>the nominee, Dan S. Sullivan, and whose candidacy is now

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<v Speaker 2>being probed by Trump's DOJ who got a grand jury

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<v Speaker 2>to subpoena witnesses connected to the campaign. Before we get

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<v Speaker 2>to that, let's start with Peltola's results. What did you

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<v Speaker 2>make of her outperforming the real Dan Sullivan and what

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<v Speaker 2>it may or may not pretend for the general election,

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<v Speaker 2>which will happen in a couple months.

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<v Speaker 3>It's certainly a good sign because she won by five points.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if you took out if you gave all of

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<v Speaker 3>the fake Dan Sullivan's votes to the real Dan Sullivan,

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<v Speaker 3>she still wins by two and a half points. So

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<v Speaker 3>that is good now, So it's positive sign.

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<v Speaker 9>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's worth just noting that about one hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 3>three thousand people I think voted in this primary, and

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<v Speaker 3>the last Senate race had twice that than twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>two when Rokowski was up, so and probably even more

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<v Speaker 3>this time because this would be a more competitive race.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is only about half the electorate in Alaska voting.

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<v Speaker 3>But look, a five point lead or a very Republican

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<v Speaker 3>is thirteen save Trump one by thirteen points is a

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<v Speaker 3>great place to be in August of the electioneer.

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<v Speaker 2>What about Dan J. Sullivan? Do you think he's on

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<v Speaker 2>the ballot come November, or is the DOJ going to

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<v Speaker 2>intimidate him off the ballot. I know there was already

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<v Speaker 2>a ruling that he could be on the ballot from

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<v Speaker 2>I believe the State Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they are going to try to intimidate and

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<v Speaker 3>get him off the bout, Like why else would they

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<v Speaker 3>be doing this. They think if this is a very

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<v Speaker 3>very close race, then Dan J. Sullivan could be very

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<v Speaker 3>bad for Dan S. Sullivan if I think it did

844
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:49.000
<v Speaker 3>that correctly. He did, but he seems pretty committed to

845
00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:51.480
<v Speaker 3>his goal of being Senator.

846
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:54.360
<v Speaker 2>And confusing people. I think it's his goal.

847
00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:57.559
<v Speaker 3>He was Alaska John of course, of course, ye don't

848
00:42:57.559 --> 00:42:59.719
<v Speaker 3>make don't make the DJ's case for them, for them.

849
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:02.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to get this subbinia. Yeah, I know nothing.

850
00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:04.920
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna You're gona end up in an ad.

851
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:07.639
<v Speaker 2>This is the first I've heard about this, just have

852
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:09.639
<v Speaker 2>heard about this Dan Sullivant character. I don't know. I'm

853
00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:11.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna look into him. Maybe he's a Maybe he's gonna

854
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:15.840
<v Speaker 2>be a great leader for Alaska. Who knows. Anyway, that's Alaska.

855
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:17.920
<v Speaker 2>On the other side of the country in South Carolina,

856
00:43:18.679 --> 00:43:22.559
<v Speaker 2>Congressman Ralph Norman and Darlene Graham will face off in

857
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:25.599
<v Speaker 2>next week's runoff election to decide which of them will

858
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:29.960
<v Speaker 2>replace Senator Lindsay Graham on the November ballot. Darlene, who's

859
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:33.000
<v Speaker 2>currently serving out the remainder of her brother's term, was

860
00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:34.599
<v Speaker 2>the top vote get her in the first round of

861
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:37.400
<v Speaker 2>the primary and has Donald Trump's endorsement. He will be

862
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:40.519
<v Speaker 2>campaigning for her in the state on Friday, apparently, but

863
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:43.400
<v Speaker 2>during her one and only debate with Norman this week,

864
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:46.119
<v Speaker 2>she gave one hell of an answer to a question

865
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:47.480
<v Speaker 2>about foreign policy. Let's listen.

866
00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:49.880
<v Speaker 8>I'm sorry, could you repeat the quick our Taiwan and

867
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:53.840
<v Speaker 8>the South China see national security issues for the United States,

868
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:58.039
<v Speaker 8>and if so, why or how. I'm just gonna be

869
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:01.320
<v Speaker 8>honest to you. I'm not on a security that I'm

870
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:07.159
<v Speaker 8>not that informed on national security, so but I do

871
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:10.000
<v Speaker 8>support the military. My brother was in the Air Force

872
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:13.880
<v Speaker 8>for thirty three years, so I will do everything I

873
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:18.239
<v Speaker 8>can to support the military. My dad was in the Army.

874
00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:22.480
<v Speaker 8>I'm not a polished politician up here. National security is

875
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:26.079
<v Speaker 8>not my thing, not my area of expertise, but I

876
00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:27.320
<v Speaker 8>do support the military.

877
00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:29.880
<v Speaker 2>In case I didn't make it clear, the first time,

878
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:33.480
<v Speaker 2>I will say a second time that national security is

879
00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:35.719
<v Speaker 2>not my thing, and just to be extra clear, I'll

880
00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:38.280
<v Speaker 2>say one more time, I am not an expert on

881
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:41.320
<v Speaker 2>national security. Just to make sure you have all the

882
00:44:41.320 --> 00:44:44.199
<v Speaker 2>context you need for the ad and that you don't

883
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:45.960
<v Speaker 2>have to infer anything.

884
00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:51.880
<v Speaker 3>Rough Dann rough Right, there is exactly why you don't

885
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:55.440
<v Speaker 3>pick people with no qualifications to be senator just because

886
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:58.400
<v Speaker 3>they are blood relatives of the previous senator.

887
00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if she wins the primary, because.

888
00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:06.480
<v Speaker 3>It's the general, she wins this, I think.

889
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:07.440
<v Speaker 9>No.

890
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:10.360
<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying is obviously South Carolina is a long

891
00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:14.079
<v Speaker 2>shot here. I do think that any Andrews is the

892
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:18.599
<v Speaker 2>Democrat running on the Democratic side, And before Lindsay Graham

893
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:21.280
<v Speaker 2>passed away, there were poles that had her within a

894
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:23.800
<v Speaker 2>couple of points. She has raised a lot of money. Again,

895
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:27.559
<v Speaker 2>still a huge long shot, but I think she probably

896
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:30.440
<v Speaker 2>at this point, I think it's an easier race. I

897
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:32.480
<v Speaker 2>think she has a better chance against Darlene Graham than

898
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:34.400
<v Speaker 2>she does Ralph Norman, even though Ralph Norman is like

899
00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Freedom Caucus crazy.

900
00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:37.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's right. I think that's right one

901
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:40.440
<v Speaker 3>hundred percent, that this is we just randomly pass the

902
00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:43.400
<v Speaker 3>Senate seat along like it's the the iron throne. So

903
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:45.880
<v Speaker 3>then the nextperst regredless of hown qualified they are. Yes,

904
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:49.159
<v Speaker 3>I think that like once again hard state. We have

905
00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:53.599
<v Speaker 3>been quite burned by summer polls in South Carolina Senate

906
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:56.320
<v Speaker 3>races before. For sure, for sure, look in a very

907
00:45:56.360 --> 00:45:58.159
<v Speaker 3>Democratic year with a very very bad candidate and a

908
00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:02.559
<v Speaker 3>good Democratic cannon and Andrews. Anything is potentially on the table.

909
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:05.400
<v Speaker 2>And it'll also be interesting to see, you know, Trump's

910
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:09.519
<v Speaker 2>endorsement going to campaign for her, does that like Trump

911
00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:12.360
<v Speaker 2>has now had a couple endorsements that haven't gone well,

912
00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:15.519
<v Speaker 2>including Tuesday Night. He lost three on Tuesday Night, three

913
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:18.159
<v Speaker 2>on Tuesday Night. And this will be pretty high profile

914
00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:19.639
<v Speaker 2>if she if she goes down.

915
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:21.559
<v Speaker 3>So this is going to be the real to tell

916
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:23.800
<v Speaker 3>the people who can't win the Democratic Party you can

917
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:27.760
<v Speaker 3>pass the marshmallow test because the short term one marshmallow

918
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:29.880
<v Speaker 3>benefit is we all get to dunk on Trump next

919
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:32.519
<v Speaker 3>Wednesday if she loses, but then they definitely get the

920
00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:36.239
<v Speaker 3>Senate seat. We can delay gratification to November. We might

921
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:37.480
<v Speaker 3>have a shot at an extra Senate seat.

922
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:42.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, everyone practiced being like, oh, Trump's endorsement still still matters.

923
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:45.840
<v Speaker 2>That Donald Trump is his grip on the party is

924
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:48.039
<v Speaker 2>still strong. Everyone just practiced that for a little bit,

925
00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:50.400
<v Speaker 2>all right. So one issue that does seem to be

926
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:53.440
<v Speaker 2>panicking Republican campaigns all across the country right now is

927
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:58.119
<v Speaker 2>data centers. Earlier this week, Axios reported that the NRSC,

928
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:01.920
<v Speaker 2>the Republican Senate campaign arm, sent memo to AI companies

929
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:05.360
<v Speaker 2>warning them that voters' opinions on data centers may lose

930
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:08.480
<v Speaker 2>them the Ohio Senate race. The memo details how Shared

931
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:11.280
<v Speaker 2>Brown has made opposition to data centers a quote centerpiece

932
00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:14.039
<v Speaker 2>of his campaign, and warns the companies that are Republican

933
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:17.920
<v Speaker 2>nominee John Houstad loses quote, data centers will get the blame.

934
00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Politicians across the country will take notice, and they will

935
00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:24.280
<v Speaker 2>not go near the next one. The NRSC goes on

936
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:27.480
<v Speaker 2>to ask the companies to quote fix how Ohio and

937
00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:31.800
<v Speaker 2>see data centers? I guess by not having them, though

938
00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:34.679
<v Speaker 2>they don't say that. More broadly, data center backlash has

939
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:38.599
<v Speaker 2>forced elected officials and candidates in both parties to recalibrate

940
00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:42.800
<v Speaker 2>their messaging. For example, the Republican in Wisconsin's gubernatorial race,

941
00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:46.559
<v Speaker 2>Tom Tiffany is running ads now calling his opponent data

942
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:50.039
<v Speaker 2>center David Crowley. First of all, what do you think

943
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:56.079
<v Speaker 2>of the NRSC strategy of pleading with AI companies on

944
00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:57.719
<v Speaker 2>this one? What do you think they're up to there?

945
00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:01.159
<v Speaker 3>Well, the text is we're pleating with the AA companies

946
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:03.440
<v Speaker 3>to do a better job of pr for data centers.

947
00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:06.239
<v Speaker 3>The subtext is we want the AI companies, through the

948
00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:08.559
<v Speaker 3>through their leading the future super pac that has one

949
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:10.559
<v Speaker 3>hundred and twenty million dollars or so in the bank,

950
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:13.440
<v Speaker 3>to spend money to help make sure that John Houstead wins,

951
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:16.239
<v Speaker 3>because if John Hustad loses, everyone will read that as

952
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:18.760
<v Speaker 3>being a lost I do entirely to data centers, and

953
00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:20.800
<v Speaker 3>it will be very, very bad for the industry's ability

954
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:23.159
<v Speaker 3>to build data centers around the country because then everybably

955
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:25.719
<v Speaker 3>every Democratic Republican will be anti data center. So it

956
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:29.320
<v Speaker 3>is just basically a fundraising ask to get these super

957
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:31.480
<v Speaker 3>PACs to come in here and help Houstead.

958
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:33.199
<v Speaker 2>And I'm just going to throw out a guess here,

959
00:48:33.239 --> 00:48:35.519
<v Speaker 2>but if the super PACs do come in and help Houstead,

960
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:38.760
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if they will go the route of a

961
00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:43.400
<v Speaker 2>pack and maybe not run ads trying to make data

962
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:46.639
<v Speaker 2>centers more appealing and defending data centers, but perhaps run

963
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:50.000
<v Speaker 2>ads against Shared Brown on unrelated topics that they think

964
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:52.440
<v Speaker 2>they have a better political political argument on, because that

965
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:54.519
<v Speaker 2>seems to be what super PACs do these days.

966
00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:57.000
<v Speaker 3>If you are a super pac representing a very very

967
00:48:57.039 --> 00:48:59.199
<v Speaker 3>unpopular interest group, then yes, that's what you're going to do.

968
00:48:59.480 --> 00:48:59.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

969
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:03.920
<v Speaker 2>So here's how Shared is talking about data centers and

970
00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:05.199
<v Speaker 2>his opponent, oh I.

971
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:06.159
<v Speaker 3>Was electric grid.

972
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:10.119
<v Speaker 9>Big corporations treat it like a game, gobbling up energy

973
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:13.400
<v Speaker 9>to feed their data centers, no matter how much it

974
00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:18.079
<v Speaker 9>raises our prices. It's the latest way they've rigged the system,

975
00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:22.239
<v Speaker 9>costing the average Ohio and thousands of dollars, with prices

976
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:25.800
<v Speaker 9>still going up. I'm sure Brown, I'll require the data

977
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:29.360
<v Speaker 9>centers pay the full cost of their electricity, not you.

978
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:32.480
<v Speaker 9>They don't get to play games with your energy bill.

979
00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:34.440
<v Speaker 9>That's why I approve this message.

980
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:36.280
<v Speaker 2>What do you think of that ad? What do you

981
00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:40.519
<v Speaker 2>think of this debate in general, which is now popping

982
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:43.960
<v Speaker 2>up in I mean, we mentioned Ohio, but in Wisconsin,

983
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:48.039
<v Speaker 2>but it's happening in races all across the country. Gubernatorial races,

984
00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:50.519
<v Speaker 2>house races, senate races. It's everywhere.

985
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Just as an organic plug. It makes it organic if

986
00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:57.639
<v Speaker 3>I say it that next week on Monday, we're going

987
00:49:57.719 --> 00:49:59.719
<v Speaker 3>to have a whole special on data center ads the

988
00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:02.320
<v Speaker 3>Brain Tyler comin and I did on the Cricket YouTube channels.

989
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:04.840
<v Speaker 3>Peoplehold check that out part of our political Experts React series.

990
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:07.559
<v Speaker 3>But this is You're right, this happening everywhere. It's a

991
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:11.000
<v Speaker 3>huge issue in Texas where Gina Inejosa and Greg Gabbett

992
00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:12.559
<v Speaker 3>are competing to see who could be the most anti

993
00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:14.360
<v Speaker 3>data center. She has an incredible ad that Brian and

994
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:17.639
<v Speaker 3>I watched. That is where she asks a AI chatbot

995
00:50:18.119 --> 00:50:20.719
<v Speaker 3>about what why electricity prices are so high onces happen

996
00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:25.199
<v Speaker 3>in data centers. Just today in Michigan, Mike Rogers came

997
00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:28.239
<v Speaker 3>out for a one year moratorium on data centers. Josh Pirou,

998
00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:30.199
<v Speaker 3>who had been very pro data center, is now anti

999
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:33.760
<v Speaker 3>data center. He is an attack at UP today criticizing

1000
00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:37.159
<v Speaker 3>his opponent for being pro data center. This is, I think,

1001
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:41.639
<v Speaker 3>potentially the signature issue of this selection for several reasons. One,

1002
00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:47.079
<v Speaker 3>it galvanizes Democrats and Republicans. The polling in here is,

1003
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:49.719
<v Speaker 3>you know, two thirds don't want a data center in

1004
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:52.360
<v Speaker 3>their community. Two thirds think the data center centators are

1005
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:55.159
<v Speaker 3>being built too fast. People are very concerned about the

1006
00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:59.000
<v Speaker 3>impact of AI, and data centers represent several things in

1007
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:03.519
<v Speaker 3>one in one fell suit for people fear about AI,

1008
00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:07.840
<v Speaker 3>fear about an economy. It's leaving them behind a lack

1009
00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:10.639
<v Speaker 3>of control with these big tech overlords who are making

1010
00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:14.159
<v Speaker 3>decisions for their lives, a cricket system where they're all

1011
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:17.039
<v Speaker 3>giving money to politicians into Trump and building ballrooms so

1012
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:19.239
<v Speaker 3>that they can do whatever they want. And most importantly,

1013
00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:22.719
<v Speaker 3>affordability because the states of the data center issue is

1014
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:26.599
<v Speaker 3>the biggest Texas in Maine in particular, it's around where

1015
00:51:26.599 --> 00:51:29.440
<v Speaker 3>they have the highest electricity, electricity and utility prices. And

1016
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:31.920
<v Speaker 3>so this is like you're going to see every politician

1017
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:34.079
<v Speaker 3>is going to It's going to be very hard for

1018
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:36.159
<v Speaker 3>defining politic issues to be pro data center other than

1019
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:38.559
<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump, who's out there every day talking about why

1020
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:42.079
<v Speaker 3>data centers are great. And it's like just an incredible

1021
00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:46.159
<v Speaker 3>contrast for Democrats because Mike Rodgers can be formatorium, Tom

1022
00:51:46.199 --> 00:51:48.840
<v Speaker 3>Tiffany can sort of lie about his position. At the

1023
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:51.199
<v Speaker 3>end of the day, they are Trump Republicans, and Trump

1024
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:52.719
<v Speaker 3>wants to build a data center on every corner in.

1025
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:55.719
<v Speaker 2>America, Democrats have had a couple different positions on those

1026
00:51:55.760 --> 00:52:00.480
<v Speaker 2>different Democratic candidates. There is the moratorium, we want just

1027
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:03.199
<v Speaker 2>a moratorium on data centers, no data centers. And then

1028
00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:06.559
<v Speaker 2>there is and I think this is where Tom Tiffany

1029
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:11.679
<v Speaker 2>thought he had an opening with David Crowley and Josh Shapiro.

1030
00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Similarly with his executive order that he just signed, sort

1031
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:20.239
<v Speaker 2>of has this position, which is no data centers unless

1032
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:24.880
<v Speaker 2>all of these conditions are met. And so I think

1033
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:29.159
<v Speaker 2>in Pennsylvania now, like you can't even get a permit

1034
00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:32.000
<v Speaker 2>from the state for a data center unless it is

1035
00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:36.480
<v Speaker 2>approved by the local community. And also they have to

1036
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:38.920
<v Speaker 2>pay for all of their own costs, all of the

1037
00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:42.440
<v Speaker 2>higher electricity rates. It gets into the weeds here. I

1038
00:52:42.760 --> 00:52:45.159
<v Speaker 2>went down a rabbit hole on this. You can't have

1039
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:48.880
<v Speaker 2>them pay for all of the potential increases in electricity

1040
00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:52.599
<v Speaker 2>because it's spread across multiple states, right, which is a problem.

1041
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:55.559
<v Speaker 2>But there's a big part of the power generation and

1042
00:52:55.599 --> 00:52:58.559
<v Speaker 2>the electricity that they can pay for to hold rate payers,

1043
00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:01.760
<v Speaker 2>to hold everyone else harmless on this, right, so that

1044
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:03.639
<v Speaker 2>you don't you don't have higher rates because of this.

1045
00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:06.920
<v Speaker 2>There's also like they can do stuff about the water

1046
00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:09.840
<v Speaker 2>issues and the energy issues like and then you can

1047
00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:12.639
<v Speaker 2>as opposed to some states that have been giving tax

1048
00:53:12.719 --> 00:53:15.599
<v Speaker 2>breaks to data centers, which seems crazy to me. Now

1049
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:20.079
<v Speaker 2>there's states like Virginia, and there's a big story about

1050
00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:22.559
<v Speaker 2>Louden County where there's more data centers than anywhere else,

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<v Speaker 2>which basically the data centers have to pay so much

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00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:28.239
<v Speaker 2>in tax revenue to the community where they're in that

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00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:31.519
<v Speaker 2>these communities now like Louden County are becoming like you're

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00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:35.199
<v Speaker 2>getting all these property tax cuts and you're building these

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00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:38.199
<v Speaker 2>great schools and giving teachers raises, and so it's like

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<v Speaker 2>you can you can set out all these conditions for

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00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:45.280
<v Speaker 2>data centers that could help a community and could still

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00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:47.920
<v Speaker 2>get them built, or you could say no moratorium, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that a Democrat with a position like Shapiro,

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00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:56.920
<v Speaker 2>like David Crowley, do you think that's still a politically

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00:53:56.920 --> 00:53:59.719
<v Speaker 2>good position to have and still gives you the contrast

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<v Speaker 2>you need against Republicans.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it is a moratorium is a much cleaner position.

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00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:07.239
<v Speaker 3>And I think the way to think about a moratorium

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00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:10.039
<v Speaker 3>is it is not an argument that will never build

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00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:12.920
<v Speaker 3>data centers again. It's that if you want to build

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00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:15.280
<v Speaker 3>a data center, you have to negotiate with the local

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00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:18.559
<v Speaker 3>community and the starting and I'm cribbing from another organic

1069
00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:20.800
<v Speaker 3>a very excellent conversation you have with fashion here on

1070
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:23.719
<v Speaker 3>offline about politics in general. But you got to you

1071
00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:26.599
<v Speaker 3>dug deep on data centers because more perfect Union his

1072
00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:29.440
<v Speaker 3>organization has done a lot of work. Here is the

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00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:34.760
<v Speaker 3>point of the moratorium, is says our view is no

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00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:36.719
<v Speaker 3>data center. If you want to build a data center,

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00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:37.880
<v Speaker 3>you're going to have to come to us, and you're

1076
00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:39.719
<v Speaker 3>gonna have to meet our demands. And here's what our

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00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:43.800
<v Speaker 3>demands are. And what's important is the local community. This

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00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:45.559
<v Speaker 3>is why the tax and centers are so stupid. Is

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00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:49.400
<v Speaker 3>the local communities have the leverage here. Yes, these companies

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00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:54.119
<v Speaker 3>are desperately desperately desperately to try and to get the

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00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:56.679
<v Speaker 3>data they these communities are desperately desperately definitely need these

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00:54:56.760 --> 00:55:00.159
<v Speaker 3>data centers to continue building their large language models to

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00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:03.000
<v Speaker 3>do their work. And so they need it and they

1084
00:55:03.079 --> 00:55:06.239
<v Speaker 3>if we don't get data centers, they're fucked. And so

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00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:09.519
<v Speaker 3>to use that to make decisions about where it is,

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00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:13.119
<v Speaker 3>how much they're going to pay, what standards are going

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00:55:13.159 --> 00:55:14.880
<v Speaker 3>to be in place, how are they going to protect

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<v Speaker 3>the community from you know, bad you know, harmful environment

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00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:23.159
<v Speaker 3>so harmful environmental impacts, the increased costs, all of those things,

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<v Speaker 3>because there are there are going to be This was

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<v Speaker 3>Crowley's point when I talked about this, which is not

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00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:32.280
<v Speaker 3>it was not delivered the most politically savvy way because

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<v Speaker 3>of the politics here. But there are communities in Wisconsin

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00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:38.960
<v Speaker 3>other places that are in rural areas that are looking

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00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:43.760
<v Speaker 3>for an economic engine of some kind, and so they're

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<v Speaker 3>open to this idea and what the AA comis were doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Before because originally I was like, but they don't even

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<v Speaker 2>create that many jobs. Like you there's there's jobs building

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00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:53.199
<v Speaker 2>the data center, and then there's like a couple of

1100
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<v Speaker 2>security guards. You know, Like yeah, that's exaggeration, but like

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00:55:56.800 --> 00:55:59.599
<v Speaker 2>they don't create a ton of jobs, but the revenue

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<v Speaker 2>that they can potentially provide that is like a constant

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00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:05.920
<v Speaker 2>stream of a fuckload of revenue to a community like

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00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:08.760
<v Speaker 2>that lets the community do quite a bit of good.

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<v Speaker 3>Previously, I think the AI companies were taking advantage of

1106
00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:16.119
<v Speaker 3>these communities. And now the communities have gotten organized, they

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00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:19.039
<v Speaker 3>are pushing back. They're getting support from leaders like Shapiro

1108
00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:21.679
<v Speaker 3>or to any evers or others to be able to

1109
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:25.119
<v Speaker 3>go into these negotiations and come out ahead and then

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<v Speaker 3>make an honest decision is this the right thing for

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00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:30.960
<v Speaker 3>our community, you know, based on our economic needs, our

1112
00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:34.119
<v Speaker 3>environmental concerns. But at least they have a fighting chance

1113
00:56:34.159 --> 00:56:37.400
<v Speaker 3>against these companies that have just them just essentially bribing

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<v Speaker 3>the local council and moving in and getting it done

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<v Speaker 3>before anyone even has a chance to blink.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally agree with you though that, and I think

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00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:47.320
<v Speaker 2>it's a really smart way to think about it, which

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00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:51.880
<v Speaker 2>is it is much easier and cleaner and more accessible

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00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:54.559
<v Speaker 2>to say like, yes, I want a data center moratorium,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when someone says, oh, no data center built forever,

1121
00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:00.719
<v Speaker 2>then you're like, no, a moratorium unless a whole bunch

1122
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:02.880
<v Speaker 2>of conditions are met, and then you can, you know,

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00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:06.360
<v Speaker 2>or unless you negotiate with the local community and everyone's

1124
00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:08.320
<v Speaker 2>conditions are met in the local community where it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to have the biggest impact, you know, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 2>saying like well I kind of wi't like data centers,

1127
00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:14.800
<v Speaker 2>but I need this, that and the other thing, like

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<v Speaker 2>just for political communication here, I do think it's easier

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<v Speaker 2>to just talk about a moratorium, Okay, up next, you

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<v Speaker 2>will hear love It's interview with Iowa's Democratic Senate nominee

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<v Speaker 11>So.

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<v Speaker 10>I'd love to talk to you about your endorsement from

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<v Speaker 10>Barack Obama, which you announced last month with a video.

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<v Speaker 10>Let's just start with a clip.

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<v Speaker 5>Well again, who's got next?

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00:58:56.000 --> 00:58:59.480
<v Speaker 3>I got it? You ready for me and Josh?

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00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:00.360
<v Speaker 5>Ready?

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<v Speaker 11>Let's go were playing.

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<v Speaker 5>Horse or what we're playing? Iowa?

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me how things are going out there?

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<v Speaker 12>Everywhere we go, urban areas, rural areas, people are ready

1165
00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:10.360
<v Speaker 12>for change.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh, I thought I had that one.

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<v Speaker 3>That's Iowa right there.

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<v Speaker 11>But a lot of people have heard me say this.

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<v Speaker 11>Of all the things I've done in politics, Iowa was

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00:59:21.119 --> 00:59:26.320
<v Speaker 11>my favorite thing. There was just a magic about regular

1171
00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:31.159
<v Speaker 11>folks showing up in gym's like this, like this and

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<v Speaker 11>just talking out how do we move our state forward,

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<v Speaker 11>how to move the country forward.

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<v Speaker 12>I'll tell you what people all across Iowa saying that

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00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:43.119
<v Speaker 12>they're feeling that hope, that optimism for the first time

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<v Speaker 12>in a long time.

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<v Speaker 11>That's my sense.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why I think's going to happen. Man.

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<v Speaker 10>First of all, just how did that video come together?

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<v Speaker 10>And what was it like actually shooting it on that day?

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<v Speaker 5>Sure it came together. We I head.

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<v Speaker 12>I was in Chicago and I ended up meeting with

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<v Speaker 12>David Axel through a colleague of mine in the Iowa

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01:00:02.920 --> 01:00:06.840
<v Speaker 12>Legislature and sat down was trying to convince him on

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<v Speaker 12>myself on Iowa that this thing is absolutely winnable. We

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<v Speaker 12>could be seat number fifty one in the US Senate.

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<v Speaker 12>And when we finished, he texted me and said, look,

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<v Speaker 12>I'd love to be helpful however I can. I said,

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<v Speaker 12>I've got this crazy idea where we've been including basketball

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<v Speaker 12>so much and playing Iowa with people, going to the

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<v Speaker 12>YMCA in Des Moines, and I said, I've got this

1192
01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:31.599
<v Speaker 12>crazy idea where all I need is President Obama just

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01:00:31.679 --> 01:00:35.559
<v Speaker 12>raised his hand five times, just five shots, and he said, well,

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01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:37.599
<v Speaker 12>let me see what I can do, and forty hours

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<v Speaker 12>later text me back and said, I think he's interested.

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<v Speaker 5>I think this thing is going to happen.

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<v Speaker 12>And came together and incredible, I mean, my political hero.

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<v Speaker 12>It was a surreal moment as I'm shooting and I'm

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<v Speaker 12>looking over and I'm like, oh my god, I'm playing

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<v Speaker 12>horse against as we're calling it, Iowa against President Obama,

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01:00:57.159 --> 01:01:01.000
<v Speaker 12>and honestly a great shooter, really really good shooter.

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<v Speaker 10>I will say my first reaction when I saw the

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<v Speaker 10>ad was wow. I am shocked that he agreed to

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<v Speaker 10>film an ad that is about him missing shots and

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<v Speaker 10>ultimately losing the game. He must really want, like, he

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01:01:17.400 --> 01:01:20.960
<v Speaker 10>must really want to do this because he's competitive and

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<v Speaker 10>this is like, Oh, they're going to show you winning

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<v Speaker 10>and you're going to show the times where he's like

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<v Speaker 10>missing shots like that must have he wasn't.

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<v Speaker 6>Been a little reluctant.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, we didn't know who was going to win. We

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01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:31.880
<v Speaker 10>played a lit No, I'm not suggesting it was a

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<v Speaker 10>rig gama. I'm not suggesting it. But he still obviously

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<v Speaker 10>was going to be he was going to be shown missing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we came out here.

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<v Speaker 12>Here's what I'll say. He came out, he missed his

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<v Speaker 12>first shot or two. I gave him a letter. I

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<v Speaker 12>he gave me a letter. I because I'm having one

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<v Speaker 12>of those surreal moments, I'm looking over like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 12>I'm playing President Obama. I ended up beating him. Iowa

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<v Speaker 12>to I, but he was. He was talking trash to

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<v Speaker 12>me the entire game. He's like, look, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 12>to let you win. I said, mister President, with all

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<v Speaker 12>due respect, I'm certainly not going to let you win.

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<v Speaker 12>I have a reputation here. I'm a two time gold medal,

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<v Speaker 12>so I'm a four time Paralympian. Like, I'll never hear

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<v Speaker 12>the end of it. If I let you beat me.

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<v Speaker 3>You're prop He's got to go. That's right.

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<v Speaker 10>So on the other hand, I saw a post recently

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<v Speaker 10>so Trump said that you are lazy. Donald Trump has

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<v Speaker 10>accused you of being lazy. Now when you were recuperating

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<v Speaker 10>from twenty one surgeries, or being bullied by other kids,

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<v Speaker 10>or training for the Paralympics, or being cut six times

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01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:38.320
<v Speaker 10>and then winning multiple gold medals, or dragging your own

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<v Speaker 10>wheelchair up the stairs to canvas for votes, do you

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<v Speaker 10>ever stop to think about how much further you could

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<v Speaker 10>go in life if you weren't such a lazy piece

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<v Speaker 10>of shit.

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<v Speaker 12>I found that one fascinating because so much of my

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<v Speaker 12>story is overcoming adversity. As you said, I grew up

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01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:56.920
<v Speaker 12>in a working class family, working class community where we

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<v Speaker 12>went to the Goodwill for clothes shared clothes surgeries.

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<v Speaker 5>By the age of twelve. I had my first surgery

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<v Speaker 5>one day old.

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<v Speaker 12>And then, as you said, I mean, I was cut

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<v Speaker 12>six straight years from the national team. I kept coming

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01:03:08.199 --> 01:03:10.559
<v Speaker 12>back year after year after year, saying eventually, I'm going

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01:03:10.639 --> 01:03:12.840
<v Speaker 12>to get good enough. You can ask anyone of my

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01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:16.920
<v Speaker 12>national team teammates. I was absolutely one of the hardest

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<v Speaker 12>workers and to win. I represent the reddest district that's

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<v Speaker 12>represented by a Democrat in the Iowa Legislature. The two

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<v Speaker 12>communities I represent trump one Carter Lake by eighteen points

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<v Speaker 12>and one Council BLUs by ten points. I was able

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01:03:28.840 --> 01:03:32.239
<v Speaker 12>to win by six six percent. And I went out

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<v Speaker 12>every single day, rain or shine, hot or cold, dragging

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<v Speaker 12>my wheelchair upstairs to have conversations with Independence and Republicans

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<v Speaker 12>because the match just didn't work any other way. And

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<v Speaker 12>so I almost got a chuckle out of saying you're lazy.

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01:03:46.360 --> 01:03:49.519
<v Speaker 12>It's like, if nothing else, I'm an unbelievably hard worker

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01:03:50.159 --> 01:03:52.239
<v Speaker 12>and trusuly. I'm really proud of my time in the

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01:03:52.280 --> 01:03:55.480
<v Speaker 12>Iowa Legislature. When I first joined the legislature, I was

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01:03:55.519 --> 01:03:58.360
<v Speaker 12>told outright, you'll never get a subcommittee you'll never get

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01:03:58.400 --> 01:04:01.360
<v Speaker 12>a committee, you'll certainly never get anything signed by the governor.

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<v Speaker 5>And I said, I refuse.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm the first permanently physically disabled member of the Ible Legislature.

1266
01:04:07.199 --> 01:04:08.800
<v Speaker 12>I'm like, you can teach a monkey to come up

1267
01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:11.480
<v Speaker 12>here and push the red button over and over. I've

1268
01:04:11.480 --> 01:04:13.960
<v Speaker 12>got to get stuff done. And so I did the

1269
01:04:13.960 --> 01:04:16.360
<v Speaker 12>hard work behind the scenes that nobody will ever hear about,

1270
01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:21.320
<v Speaker 12>building relationships, finding stretch bail fellows where we can disagree

1271
01:04:21.320 --> 01:04:24.000
<v Speaker 12>on ninety percent of policy, but we're going to agree

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01:04:24.039 --> 01:04:25.920
<v Speaker 12>on this one thing that's going to really help people.

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01:04:26.320 --> 01:04:28.239
<v Speaker 12>And I was able to be one of the most

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01:04:28.280 --> 01:04:30.400
<v Speaker 12>effective and one of the most bipartisan members of the

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01:04:30.400 --> 01:04:32.280
<v Speaker 12>Ible Legislature. I think that's what people want.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, you recently put on an ad talking about your

1277
01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:38.760
<v Speaker 10>bipartisan record, including your willingness to work with Trump if

1278
01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:41.360
<v Speaker 10>you're elected to the Senate. I just want to understand

1279
01:04:41.400 --> 01:04:45.599
<v Speaker 10>the voters you're trying to reach. And when I see

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01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:47.519
<v Speaker 10>that ad, I think, oh, there's a hump you're trying

1281
01:04:47.519 --> 01:04:49.679
<v Speaker 10>to get people over. There's a bunch of people out

1282
01:04:49.679 --> 01:04:51.360
<v Speaker 10>there that may be dissatisfied with the state of things

1283
01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:53.480
<v Speaker 10>in Iowa, in the country but they're a little bit

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01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:56.039
<v Speaker 10>uncomfortable with the idea of voting for a Democrat. And

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<v Speaker 10>I'm just curious what you're trying to say to those

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01:04:58.199 --> 01:05:00.599
<v Speaker 10>people and what it's like being out talking to those

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01:05:00.679 --> 01:05:01.360
<v Speaker 10>kinds of voters.

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<v Speaker 12>I believe to my core that more than Republican versus Democrat,

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01:05:06.159 --> 01:05:09.000
<v Speaker 12>I think, particularly in Iowa, I think what people want

1290
01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:11.199
<v Speaker 12>is they want a representative that is going to do

1291
01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:13.480
<v Speaker 12>the hard work behind the scenes. That what they want

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01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:17.320
<v Speaker 12>is they want a representative that is going to work

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01:05:17.639 --> 01:05:22.920
<v Speaker 12>to solve people's problems through policy, but through bipartisan policy.

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01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:25.599
<v Speaker 12>And so what I want them to understand about me

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01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:28.519
<v Speaker 12>is I'm not an overt tribalist. I'm a common sense,

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01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:32.960
<v Speaker 12>pray populist. So my political north star is always what's

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01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:35.000
<v Speaker 12>best for Iowa, what's best for Iowa's what's best for

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01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:38.559
<v Speaker 12>the middle class, what is best for our workers. And

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<v Speaker 12>I think we've got to get back to this country

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01:05:43.159 --> 01:05:46.880
<v Speaker 12>over party mentality. And so I say I agree with

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01:05:47.239 --> 01:05:50.880
<v Speaker 12>President Trump that we shouldn't have tax on tips or overtime,

1302
01:05:51.239 --> 01:05:53.440
<v Speaker 12>or that we need to drive private equity out of housing,

1303
01:05:54.320 --> 01:05:57.199
<v Speaker 12>fight like hell where and when we need to, but

1304
01:05:57.280 --> 01:06:00.000
<v Speaker 12>also be willing to do the work behind the scenes

1305
01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:03.360
<v Speaker 12>to provide solutions to peeples problems, because I think that's

1306
01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:06.440
<v Speaker 12>what I once demand, and so I think that's the

1307
01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:07.079
<v Speaker 12>purpose of that.

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<v Speaker 10>So you recently stopped by the Iowa Speedway to talk

1309
01:06:11.239 --> 01:06:19.679
<v Speaker 10>to voters. Part of what politics is today is the

1310
01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:22.880
<v Speaker 10>fight on the ground to break through the assumptions people

1311
01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:25.360
<v Speaker 10>have based on what they're seeing on Fox News, based

1312
01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:30.199
<v Speaker 10>on what they're seeing on social media, including just getting

1313
01:06:30.239 --> 01:06:33.800
<v Speaker 10>people to kind of not adopt the tone of what

1314
01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:38.000
<v Speaker 10>politics has on the Internet. And I'm just curious what

1315
01:06:38.039 --> 01:06:41.000
<v Speaker 10>it's like being on the trail in Iowa, in red

1316
01:06:41.039 --> 01:06:43.760
<v Speaker 10>places at a NASCAR event where there's going to be

1317
01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:46.199
<v Speaker 10>a lot of people that are not just independents or

1318
01:06:46.280 --> 01:06:48.920
<v Speaker 10>moderates or maybe Republicans who are unhappy with Trump, but

1319
01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:51.519
<v Speaker 10>true diehards for Trump. And if you've had any interesting

1320
01:06:51.559 --> 01:06:55.039
<v Speaker 10>conversations with some of those people on the campaign trail,

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01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:56.079
<v Speaker 10>it's been great.

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01:06:56.280 --> 01:06:58.800
<v Speaker 12>My favorite thing about doing this is being I love people.

1323
01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:01.079
<v Speaker 12>I love being able to get out there talk to people,

1324
01:07:01.480 --> 01:07:04.119
<v Speaker 12>hear their stories, hear what they're going through. And then

1325
01:07:04.519 --> 01:07:06.320
<v Speaker 12>when you're willing to listen to people is when you

1326
01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:09.559
<v Speaker 12>can actually think about, well, here's a solution that we

1327
01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:13.719
<v Speaker 12>could provide to them through policy. I love being able

1328
01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:15.000
<v Speaker 12>to get all over the state to a state that

1329
01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:18.039
<v Speaker 12>I was born in, raised in. We've got ninety nine counties.

1330
01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:21.719
<v Speaker 12>It's a beautiful state, really really good people there. Truly

1331
01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:24.000
<v Speaker 12>is an Iowa nice I've been all over the country,

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01:07:24.039 --> 01:07:26.400
<v Speaker 12>all over the world. There is a uniqueness to the

1333
01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:30.480
<v Speaker 12>people of Iowa. But I think that modern politics, the

1334
01:07:30.519 --> 01:07:34.880
<v Speaker 12>coin of the realm now is meeting people about politics

1335
01:07:34.920 --> 01:07:39.159
<v Speaker 12>in an apolitical fashion. So that's why the Obama video

1336
01:07:39.400 --> 01:07:42.639
<v Speaker 12>we include so much basketball. Bring them in with the basketball,

1337
01:07:42.679 --> 01:07:46.599
<v Speaker 12>then talk to him about politics. I did Ragbriy des

1338
01:07:46.679 --> 01:07:48.960
<v Speaker 12>Moines Register's Great Annual Bike Ride across Iowa.

1339
01:07:49.039 --> 01:07:49.639
<v Speaker 5>I did day one.

1340
01:07:49.679 --> 01:07:52.679
<v Speaker 12>I did sixty miles, the hottest day of the hilliest day,

1341
01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:55.920
<v Speaker 12>the humidst day. But there was forty thousand writers out

1342
01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:58.559
<v Speaker 12>there being able to talk to people, engage them.

1343
01:07:58.840 --> 01:07:59.880
<v Speaker 5>And the same with NASCAR.

1344
01:08:00.719 --> 01:08:04.639
<v Speaker 12>So part of this for me is I think that

1345
01:08:04.679 --> 01:08:06.800
<v Speaker 12>a mistake that too many Democrats have made over the

1346
01:08:06.880 --> 01:08:09.719
<v Speaker 12>last decade in my state is they have thought about

1347
01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:14.039
<v Speaker 12>this math problem incorrectly. They thought we've just got to

1348
01:08:14.119 --> 01:08:18.199
<v Speaker 12>maximize turnout in the urban areas. Pole County, Johnson County.

1349
01:08:19.039 --> 01:08:22.319
<v Speaker 12>But ultimately we're rural state, and so you've got to

1350
01:08:22.319 --> 01:08:23.880
<v Speaker 12>be willing to go into the lions, and you've got

1351
01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:25.600
<v Speaker 12>to be willing to go into all ninety nine counties,

1352
01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:28.479
<v Speaker 12>every one of these mid size, small communities and go

1353
01:08:29.239 --> 01:08:31.680
<v Speaker 12>and talk to them. And what I've learned representing a

1354
01:08:31.720 --> 01:08:35.359
<v Speaker 12>really red district is you won't win every single one

1355
01:08:35.399 --> 01:08:38.479
<v Speaker 12>of them over, but you will win enough to trim

1356
01:08:38.479 --> 01:08:40.800
<v Speaker 12>the margins. And every one of those Republicans that we

1357
01:08:40.880 --> 01:08:43.960
<v Speaker 12>went over is a double vote. One at of her

1358
01:08:43.960 --> 01:08:45.000
<v Speaker 12>call them and one of my call them.

1359
01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:46.039
<v Speaker 5>But what's it?

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01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:48.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm really actually I'm okay.

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01:08:48.439 --> 01:08:50.119
<v Speaker 10>Those are the people you're getting, and those are the

1362
01:08:50.119 --> 01:08:52.159
<v Speaker 10>people you want to get to win this race. But

1363
01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:55.720
<v Speaker 10>Iowa as a state that sent Tom Harkin to the

1364
01:08:55.760 --> 01:09:01.840
<v Speaker 10>Senate for thirty years, Barack Obama one it twice, it

1365
01:09:02.159 --> 01:09:07.359
<v Speaker 10>then shifted to the right and swung very hard to

1366
01:09:07.680 --> 01:09:12.239
<v Speaker 10>Trump right. Like, what are you hearing from the people?

1367
01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:14.920
<v Speaker 10>Like in terms of the long road of kind of

1368
01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:18.239
<v Speaker 10>getting people to see either Democrats in a different way

1369
01:09:18.359 --> 01:09:20.399
<v Speaker 10>or politics in a different way, I'm curious about what

1370
01:09:20.439 --> 01:09:22.600
<v Speaker 10>those conversations are like with the people. You're not going

1371
01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:24.680
<v Speaker 10>to get right, like you're talking to people, you're not

1372
01:09:24.680 --> 01:09:26.760
<v Speaker 10>winning them all over? What are those conversations like? What

1373
01:09:27.279 --> 01:09:28.000
<v Speaker 10>are they missing?

1374
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<v Speaker 3>Right?

1375
01:09:28.279 --> 01:09:32.319
<v Speaker 10>You're running against somebody that voted to cut healthcare in

1376
01:09:32.479 --> 01:09:35.920
<v Speaker 10>Iowa to fund the Warner Rons. Mean, it's deeply unpopular,

1377
01:09:35.960 --> 01:09:38.000
<v Speaker 10>but there are people that are gonna be upset about

1378
01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:40.399
<v Speaker 10>that but still be unable to vote for you, And

1379
01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:41.760
<v Speaker 10>I'm curious what that is like.

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<v Speaker 12>I've had a handful of conversations, even with some Republicans

1381
01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:48.439
<v Speaker 12>when I was on ragbri and they said, you know,

1382
01:09:48.960 --> 01:09:51.000
<v Speaker 12>you don't have my vote, but I've got a whole

1383
01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:54.760
<v Speaker 12>lot of respect for you, and certainly I appreciate that.

1384
01:09:54.800 --> 01:09:57.239
<v Speaker 12>But what I'll tell you is, regardless of where I

1385
01:09:57.239 --> 01:09:59.760
<v Speaker 12>am in the state of Iowa, urban areas, rural areas,

1386
01:10:00.399 --> 01:10:04.239
<v Speaker 12>I keep hearing the exact same story, which is, islands

1387
01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:06.439
<v Speaker 12>are struggling just to keep food on the table, a

1388
01:10:06.520 --> 01:10:10.520
<v Speaker 12>roof of other head pay their electric bill, and now

1389
01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:13.119
<v Speaker 12>with this war in Iran be able to put gas

1390
01:10:13.159 --> 01:10:16.439
<v Speaker 12>in their tank. I think that a couple of things

1391
01:10:16.880 --> 01:10:19.800
<v Speaker 12>Iowa is we basically hit the bottom. We're one of

1392
01:10:19.800 --> 01:10:23.159
<v Speaker 12>three states already seeing our economy contract. We're basically dead

1393
01:10:23.199 --> 01:10:26.920
<v Speaker 12>last for every healthcare metric. Just since Ashley Henson's been elected,

1394
01:10:27.319 --> 01:10:30.560
<v Speaker 12>eight hundred and forty two healthcare entities have closed in Iowa,

1395
01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:33.319
<v Speaker 12>and she's voting for cuts to healthcare. I mean, one

1396
01:10:33.359 --> 01:10:35.520
<v Speaker 12>hundred ten thousand islands are going to lose their healthcare

1397
01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:38.880
<v Speaker 12>outright because her votes. One hundred and nineteen thousand islands

1398
01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:42.239
<v Speaker 12>seeing their healthcare premiums double or triple, or horror stories

1399
01:10:42.279 --> 01:10:46.560
<v Speaker 12>like I've heard quadruple where a state that we were

1400
01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:50.560
<v Speaker 12>basically the gold standard in public education, we've precipitously dropped

1401
01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:53.520
<v Speaker 12>down from the gold standard now down to the bottom

1402
01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:57.119
<v Speaker 12>half because of giving private schools public money. We've got

1403
01:10:57.119 --> 01:10:59.359
<v Speaker 12>a water quality crisis that's not being addressed. We've got

1404
01:10:59.399 --> 01:11:02.119
<v Speaker 12>a cancer christ were basically the only state with a

1405
01:11:02.159 --> 01:11:05.920
<v Speaker 12>growing cancer rate, second highest rates behind Kentucky, and now

1406
01:11:05.920 --> 01:11:09.039
<v Speaker 12>we lead the nation in farm foreclosures, largely driven by

1407
01:11:09.079 --> 01:11:12.239
<v Speaker 12>the tariffs. But also I think this warn Iran, which

1408
01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:15.079
<v Speaker 12>Ashley Hinson is voted in favor of continuing six times,

1409
01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:19.239
<v Speaker 12>four times in favor of the tariffs, it is disapportionately

1410
01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:23.199
<v Speaker 12>hurt Iowa. We've lost three islands in the conflict, and

1411
01:11:23.239 --> 01:11:27.359
<v Speaker 12>then you're looking at this driving up fuel cost, fertilizer cost,

1412
01:11:28.359 --> 01:11:31.560
<v Speaker 12>in diesel costs, which is disprophurting the farm cures. This

1413
01:11:31.720 --> 01:11:35.000
<v Speaker 12>is a state that is really hurting, that is ready

1414
01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:37.560
<v Speaker 12>for change. Everywhere that we're going, people are saying to me,

1415
01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:39.600
<v Speaker 12>this is not the Iowa. I know, this is not

1416
01:11:39.680 --> 01:11:41.800
<v Speaker 12>the state that I grew up in. We need change

1417
01:11:41.800 --> 01:11:43.920
<v Speaker 12>both at the state level and the federal level. And

1418
01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:47.760
<v Speaker 12>I think that a common sense Prairie populist like myself

1419
01:11:49.079 --> 01:11:51.359
<v Speaker 12>is where they're willing to park their votes. But it's

1420
01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:52.720
<v Speaker 12>a state that's ready for change.

1421
01:11:53.039 --> 01:11:57.880
<v Speaker 10>So your opponent, yes, votes for the big beautiful bill,

1422
01:11:59.680 --> 01:12:03.359
<v Speaker 10>votes to send more money to the Pentagon, additional funding

1423
01:12:03.359 --> 01:12:06.119
<v Speaker 10>for the war in Iran. Also really embraced and just

1424
01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:08.720
<v Speaker 10>a lot of Republicans kind of held their nose and

1425
01:12:08.720 --> 01:12:11.520
<v Speaker 10>thought Doge was kind of okay. They were unsure where

1426
01:12:11.560 --> 01:12:13.960
<v Speaker 10>to She's a huge fan of Doge, part of the

1427
01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:19.319
<v Speaker 10>Doge Caucus. It seems like there's that just seems like

1428
01:12:19.359 --> 01:12:22.800
<v Speaker 10>bad politics to me, a kind of unabashedly. So is

1429
01:12:22.840 --> 01:12:26.439
<v Speaker 10>it just about getting Elon Musk to drop money in

1430
01:12:26.520 --> 01:12:27.000
<v Speaker 10>the state?

1431
01:12:27.119 --> 01:12:29.880
<v Speaker 3>Is she like, what is the.

1432
01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:34.520
<v Speaker 10>What is your argument against Ashley Hintson and why is

1433
01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:36.880
<v Speaker 10>it that this is somebody running for the Senate in

1434
01:12:36.920 --> 01:12:41.399
<v Speaker 10>Iowa who seems to be not really even worried about

1435
01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:43.880
<v Speaker 10>her past positions in the race.

1436
01:12:43.920 --> 01:12:44.760
<v Speaker 3>It's confusing.

1437
01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:47.239
<v Speaker 12>She comes out when she announces that she's going to

1438
01:12:47.319 --> 01:12:49.399
<v Speaker 12>run for the US Senate. She says, I want to

1439
01:12:49.399 --> 01:12:52.720
<v Speaker 12>be Donald Trump's best ally in the US Senate. Says

1440
01:12:52.760 --> 01:12:55.479
<v Speaker 12>nothing about Iowa. Nothing about Iowan's nothing about the middle class,

1441
01:12:55.520 --> 01:13:01.079
<v Speaker 12>the state that is hurting pharm economy, that's collapsing cancer rates, etc. Yeah,

1442
01:13:01.079 --> 01:13:04.199
<v Speaker 12>she has voted for cuts to health care, to food assistants,

1443
01:13:04.279 --> 01:13:07.760
<v Speaker 12>just to give tax breaks to billionaires. It's been a

1444
01:13:07.840 --> 01:13:12.600
<v Speaker 12>level of essentially naked corruption with her. She is now

1445
01:13:13.079 --> 01:13:16.000
<v Speaker 12>up to ten times more wealthy than when she entered

1446
01:13:16.039 --> 01:13:20.520
<v Speaker 12>Congress just six years ago, taken fifty thousand dollars of

1447
01:13:20.600 --> 01:13:24.319
<v Speaker 12>taxpayer money to give herself a luxury DC apartment. I

1448
01:13:24.399 --> 01:13:26.800
<v Speaker 12>think the calculus was she looks at a state that

1449
01:13:26.840 --> 01:13:29.720
<v Speaker 12>Trump carries by twelve points, and she says, all I

1450
01:13:29.840 --> 01:13:31.880
<v Speaker 12>need to do is just get Trump voters to turn

1451
01:13:31.920 --> 01:13:35.199
<v Speaker 12>out and vote for me, and I'm just going to

1452
01:13:35.399 --> 01:13:38.840
<v Speaker 12>have a cake walk to the United States Senate. But

1453
01:13:38.920 --> 01:13:42.880
<v Speaker 12>this is a fundamentally different state and I don't think

1454
01:13:42.920 --> 01:13:46.479
<v Speaker 12>she was prepared for a common sense, prairie populace like myself,

1455
01:13:46.479 --> 01:13:49.319
<v Speaker 12>with proven results of being able to win over independence

1456
01:13:49.319 --> 01:13:53.039
<v Speaker 12>and moderate Republicans. And we're getting big turnouts, particularly in

1457
01:13:53.039 --> 01:13:56.279
<v Speaker 12>the rule areas of you know, thirty percent of Iowa

1458
01:13:56.399 --> 01:13:59.279
<v Speaker 12>voters or Independence, and so these are the kingmakers. But

1459
01:13:59.319 --> 01:14:01.680
<v Speaker 12>we're also getting a lot of card carrying Republicans that

1460
01:14:01.720 --> 01:14:05.119
<v Speaker 12>have said, voted for Trump, voter for Ernst, voter for Grassley,

1461
01:14:05.319 --> 01:14:07.800
<v Speaker 12>even vote for Henson, and enough's enough.

1462
01:14:08.159 --> 01:14:08.760
<v Speaker 5>We need change.

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01:14:08.800 --> 01:14:10.680
<v Speaker 12>We need change at the state level and the federal level.

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<v Speaker 12>And I think this is a once in a generation

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01:14:12.680 --> 01:14:16.199
<v Speaker 12>opportunity that we've got in Iowa to not just change

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01:14:16.199 --> 01:14:19.159
<v Speaker 12>the state, but in Trump's first midterm in Iowa, we

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01:14:19.159 --> 01:14:22.520
<v Speaker 12>want three of the four congressional races. We've got an

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01:14:22.560 --> 01:14:26.279
<v Speaker 12>amazing opportunity here to change the country just in Iowa,

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01:14:26.359 --> 01:14:28.199
<v Speaker 12>and I think we're going to come November, We're going

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01:14:28.239 --> 01:14:29.239
<v Speaker 12>to do something really special.

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<v Speaker 10>It seems like part of what the Republicans are counting

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01:14:32.039 --> 01:14:34.760
<v Speaker 10>on is that not only is this a Trump state,

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01:14:34.840 --> 01:14:39.000
<v Speaker 10>but that the Democratic brand is so tarnished that they

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01:14:39.039 --> 01:14:42.399
<v Speaker 10>can overwhelm the ways in which you are unique as

1475
01:14:42.439 --> 01:14:45.319
<v Speaker 10>a candidate to try to kind of ride on the

1476
01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:47.720
<v Speaker 10>idea that like, oh, people just generally find Democrats, I

1477
01:14:47.760 --> 01:14:50.800
<v Speaker 10>don't know, annoying, whatever it might be. How much is

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01:14:51.640 --> 01:14:54.840
<v Speaker 10>just being a Democrat a hindrance to you? And what

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01:14:54.920 --> 01:14:58.439
<v Speaker 10>would you like the Democratic if you asked Iowans or

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01:14:58.520 --> 01:15:01.560
<v Speaker 10>the people you're trying to reach, like, what does the

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01:15:01.560 --> 01:15:04.239
<v Speaker 10>Democratic Party mean to you? What would you like it

1482
01:15:04.279 --> 01:15:06.079
<v Speaker 10>to be in people's minds?

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01:15:06.279 --> 01:15:08.399
<v Speaker 12>The reason why I'm a Democrat and what the Democratic

1484
01:15:08.439 --> 01:15:11.399
<v Speaker 12>Party means to me is because I think at its essence,

1485
01:15:11.399 --> 01:15:15.279
<v Speaker 12>it's fighting for the little guy. And so I'm always

1486
01:15:15.279 --> 01:15:18.319
<v Speaker 12>reminded of a quote from JFK where it's you know,

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01:15:19.239 --> 01:15:20.920
<v Speaker 12>why do you align politically the way that you do?

1488
01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:23.920
<v Speaker 12>Because I believe in looking forward, not back. Because I

1489
01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:28.279
<v Speaker 12>care about people's wages, their jobs, their healthcare, their schools,

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01:15:28.760 --> 01:15:31.600
<v Speaker 12>their civil rights. I think that's the essence of why

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01:15:31.640 --> 01:15:34.239
<v Speaker 12>I'm a Democrat, and I think that at our best,

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01:15:34.279 --> 01:15:36.359
<v Speaker 12>that's really who we are and what we stand for.

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01:15:37.279 --> 01:15:40.560
<v Speaker 12>I think that going forward, especially if we're going to

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01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:43.960
<v Speaker 12>win in Prairie states like Iowa, it has to be

1495
01:15:44.039 --> 01:15:46.439
<v Speaker 12>really clear that we are the party of the people,

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01:15:46.600 --> 01:15:48.439
<v Speaker 12>party of the middle class party of the workers. That's

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01:15:48.439 --> 01:15:50.520
<v Speaker 12>why I define myself as a Commons. It's pretty populist

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01:15:51.960 --> 01:15:55.640
<v Speaker 12>and that's certainly the way forward. We can't be the

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01:15:55.720 --> 01:15:59.119
<v Speaker 12>lesser of two evils. We can't just be a corporate version.

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01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:02.800
<v Speaker 12>Got to go out there with really, really clear ideas.

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01:16:02.800 --> 01:16:04.800
<v Speaker 12>And the other thing that I say, I am just

1502
01:16:04.920 --> 01:16:09.119
<v Speaker 12>absolutely laser focused on cost, corruption, kitchen table issues. That's

1503
01:16:09.119 --> 01:16:11.600
<v Speaker 12>what this election's about, the issues that apply to three

1504
01:16:11.640 --> 01:16:15.520
<v Speaker 12>point two million islands. So that's a livable wage, affordable housing,

1505
01:16:15.560 --> 01:16:20.840
<v Speaker 12>affordable healthcare, affordable pharmaceuticals, drinkable water, addressing the cancer rates,

1506
01:16:20.880 --> 01:16:25.119
<v Speaker 12>functioning public schools, infrastructure, and addressing corruption. And that's a

1507
01:16:25.159 --> 01:16:28.039
<v Speaker 12>corruption in terms of the need for campaign finance reform.

1508
01:16:28.520 --> 01:16:30.319
<v Speaker 12>But that's also going out there and talking about the

1509
01:16:30.359 --> 01:16:34.119
<v Speaker 12>need for ethics reforms, term limits, banning members of Congress

1510
01:16:34.119 --> 01:16:37.199
<v Speaker 12>from owning and trading stocks, because people like my opponent

1511
01:16:37.239 --> 01:16:39.399
<v Speaker 12>Ashley Hinson shouldn't be going up to DC and in

1512
01:16:39.399 --> 01:16:43.279
<v Speaker 12>six years becoming ten times more wealthy, or putting a

1513
01:16:43.279 --> 01:16:46.159
<v Speaker 12>provision in place where I believe that every single Member

1514
01:16:46.199 --> 01:16:48.479
<v Speaker 12>of Congress should be forced to have at least one

1515
01:16:49.239 --> 01:16:51.720
<v Speaker 12>annual town hall because I believe that members of Congress

1516
01:16:51.720 --> 01:16:54.920
<v Speaker 12>should be accountable to their constituents, to the people, not

1517
01:16:55.119 --> 01:16:57.800
<v Speaker 12>just to the billionaires, the large corporations, the donors and

1518
01:16:57.840 --> 01:17:00.960
<v Speaker 12>the lobbyist. That's what I'm focused on, and that message

1519
01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:02.680
<v Speaker 12>is clearly resonating with Islands.

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01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:06.880
<v Speaker 10>How much money is coming in to the state from

1521
01:17:06.960 --> 01:17:11.960
<v Speaker 10>outside groups, like how much you worried about that? And

1522
01:17:13.119 --> 01:17:15.800
<v Speaker 10>what are you like sort of what are you What

1523
01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:19.199
<v Speaker 10>can people listening do to kind of help right now?

1524
01:17:19.640 --> 01:17:21.840
<v Speaker 12>If they want to see us be able to win

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01:17:21.880 --> 01:17:24.000
<v Speaker 12>this US Senate race, if they care about the country,

1526
01:17:24.079 --> 01:17:26.720
<v Speaker 12>they care about addressing corruption, if they want to have

1527
01:17:26.760 --> 01:17:28.720
<v Speaker 12>somebody that's going to be in there fighting for the people,

1528
01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:32.159
<v Speaker 12>not just for the billionaires and the large corporations, certainly

1529
01:17:32.239 --> 01:17:36.720
<v Speaker 12>join us. Go to Turrek Foriowa dot Com in chip

1530
01:17:36.720 --> 01:17:39.000
<v Speaker 12>in a few dollars because I'm not taking any corporate

1531
01:17:39.039 --> 01:17:43.079
<v Speaker 12>pac money in this. Yeah, Ashley Hinson, she's sitting on

1532
01:17:43.159 --> 01:17:46.119
<v Speaker 12>already fifty million dollars between all the packs and the

1533
01:17:46.119 --> 01:17:49.359
<v Speaker 12>super pac money. The state's being flooded with it because

1534
01:17:49.359 --> 01:17:52.760
<v Speaker 12>we've got you know, congressional races and Attorney general race.

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01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:55.119
<v Speaker 12>It's going to be a competitive, a competitive gubernatorial race,

1536
01:17:55.479 --> 01:17:58.279
<v Speaker 12>and the Senate race. And it's funny. I was just

1537
01:17:58.279 --> 01:18:00.479
<v Speaker 12>with my parents the other day and my mom gave

1538
01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:03.920
<v Speaker 12>me a stack of mailers that she had received, and

1539
01:18:03.960 --> 01:18:07.319
<v Speaker 12>it's just you know, out of state super pac, super Pac,

1540
01:18:07.399 --> 01:18:10.439
<v Speaker 12>super Pac. So the money is there, but this is

1541
01:18:10.439 --> 01:18:13.359
<v Speaker 12>a real chance for us to have to win this

1542
01:18:13.880 --> 01:18:16.079
<v Speaker 12>and be able to change the state and change the

1543
01:18:16.119 --> 01:18:18.760
<v Speaker 12>country and have a voice in the United States Senate

1544
01:18:18.800 --> 01:18:21.600
<v Speaker 12>from Iowa like what we had for so long, for

1545
01:18:21.680 --> 01:18:24.159
<v Speaker 12>thirty years we had Senator Tom Harkin, my political hero,

1546
01:18:24.479 --> 01:18:26.439
<v Speaker 12>the father of the American Went Disabilities Act.

1547
01:18:26.760 --> 01:18:27.680
<v Speaker 5>And I believe that this.

1548
01:18:27.720 --> 01:18:30.479
<v Speaker 12>Is our opportunity to have someone in the US Senate

1549
01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:33.159
<v Speaker 12>that's going to be fighting for the people, fighting for

1550
01:18:33.199 --> 01:18:35.760
<v Speaker 12>Iowa and iowands, and fighting for social and economic justice.

1551
01:18:35.800 --> 01:18:38.439
<v Speaker 12>And these social safety nets have allowed so many of

1552
01:18:38.520 --> 01:18:41.800
<v Speaker 12>us to be successful, like Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid,

1553
01:18:42.439 --> 01:18:44.760
<v Speaker 12>and not just like what Ashley Hinson has done just

1554
01:18:44.960 --> 01:18:47.560
<v Speaker 12>enriched herself and just looked out for the haves, for

1555
01:18:47.600 --> 01:18:49.199
<v Speaker 12>the billionaires in the large corporations.

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01:18:49.279 --> 01:18:51.439
<v Speaker 5>That's the opportunity that we've got this year in Iowa.

1557
01:18:51.880 --> 01:18:53.800
<v Speaker 10>So I married in Minnesotan, and so I have married

1558
01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:56.039
<v Speaker 10>into the best state fair in the country, but I

1559
01:18:56.119 --> 01:18:59.520
<v Speaker 10>would love to hear why the Iowa State Fair is

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01:18:59.560 --> 01:19:00.000
<v Speaker 10>second best.

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01:19:00.399 --> 01:19:03.239
<v Speaker 5>The Iowa State Fair is incredible. And have you been

1562
01:19:03.279 --> 01:19:04.119
<v Speaker 5>to the Iowa State Fair.

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01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:06.399
<v Speaker 10>No, I've only been to the Minnesota State Okay, well,

1564
01:19:06.399 --> 01:19:06.920
<v Speaker 10>then you've got to.

1565
01:19:06.880 --> 01:19:09.399
<v Speaker 5>Come to ours before you make a final determination.

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01:19:09.680 --> 01:19:11.560
<v Speaker 12>But I know that people in Minnesota will say, well,

1567
01:19:11.560 --> 01:19:13.520
<v Speaker 12>we get a few more people in the door than Iowa,

1568
01:19:13.880 --> 01:19:14.720
<v Speaker 12>so ours is better.

1569
01:19:16.520 --> 01:19:18.560
<v Speaker 5>Iowa State Fair is absolutely amazing.

1570
01:19:19.479 --> 01:19:23.000
<v Speaker 12>You've got animals from every part of the state, so

1571
01:19:23.119 --> 01:19:26.359
<v Speaker 12>many unique people, unbelievable amounts.

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01:19:25.880 --> 01:19:27.119
<v Speaker 5>Of crazy food.

1573
01:19:28.159 --> 01:19:32.039
<v Speaker 12>I mean I was eating a pickled pizza and deep

1574
01:19:32.079 --> 01:19:35.560
<v Speaker 12>fried oreos, I mean hot dogs, corn dogs. I had

1575
01:19:35.560 --> 01:19:38.119
<v Speaker 12>a corn dog with peanut butter and jelly on it,

1576
01:19:38.119 --> 01:19:41.720
<v Speaker 12>which honestly pretty decent. And then you've got all these

1577
01:19:41.720 --> 01:19:43.640
<v Speaker 12>games and just people from all over the state, and

1578
01:19:43.640 --> 01:19:45.560
<v Speaker 12>it's beauty and a great energy.

1579
01:19:45.760 --> 01:19:48.159
<v Speaker 5>I did my Iowa Soapbox there and.

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01:19:48.279 --> 01:19:51.279
<v Speaker 12>Look, there were some people there with signs it's you know,

1581
01:19:51.399 --> 01:19:53.000
<v Speaker 12>that were clearly not in favor of.

1582
01:19:52.960 --> 01:19:54.880
<v Speaker 5>Me, but they were respectful.

1583
01:19:55.439 --> 01:19:58.479
<v Speaker 12>And afterwards I heard from a lot of people it said, look, Josh,

1584
01:19:58.520 --> 01:19:59.880
<v Speaker 12>I'm an independent. I didn't think I was going to

1585
01:19:59.920 --> 01:20:01.960
<v Speaker 12>go for you, but I like what you said, I

1586
01:20:02.039 --> 01:20:03.600
<v Speaker 12>like who you are, I like what you stand for.

1587
01:20:03.840 --> 01:20:05.439
<v Speaker 12>You got my vote coming November.

1588
01:20:05.520 --> 01:20:07.520
<v Speaker 10>Here are some of the current items that you can

1589
01:20:07.520 --> 01:20:09.239
<v Speaker 10>get at the Iowa State Fair. You can get the

1590
01:20:09.239 --> 01:20:11.960
<v Speaker 10>these are all on a stick. Bacon, cheeseburger, corn dog,

1591
01:20:12.039 --> 01:20:17.119
<v Speaker 10>hot Cheetoh, mozzarella, corn dog, rattlesnake, corn dog, jumbo plumper,

1592
01:20:17.159 --> 01:20:18.800
<v Speaker 10>foot long corn hot.

1593
01:20:18.520 --> 01:20:19.880
<v Speaker 3>Dog, dilly dog.

1594
01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:21.680
<v Speaker 5>What's a dilly dog? I don't know what a dilly

1595
01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:22.039
<v Speaker 5>dog is?

1596
01:20:22.119 --> 01:20:28.680
<v Speaker 10>Chicken bacon, ranch waffle on a stick, star spangled swine,

1597
01:20:28.439 --> 01:20:31.880
<v Speaker 10>why not? That's pork belly with an apple, chipotle rub bacon,

1598
01:20:31.920 --> 01:20:35.279
<v Speaker 10>pecan pie on a stick. And finally, and this is

1599
01:20:35.439 --> 01:20:38.520
<v Speaker 10>I found mystifying something called yummy thing on a stick,

1600
01:20:39.159 --> 01:20:41.279
<v Speaker 10>no other information provided. Are you aware of what the

1601
01:20:41.359 --> 01:20:43.359
<v Speaker 10>yummy thing is and what the thing we'd be eating

1602
01:20:43.399 --> 01:20:43.760
<v Speaker 10>would be?

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01:20:44.079 --> 01:20:47.359
<v Speaker 12>I am not, but I will certainly be back there

1604
01:20:47.439 --> 01:20:50.720
<v Speaker 12>again a handful of times, and so I will definitely

1605
01:20:50.720 --> 01:20:52.800
<v Speaker 12>try the yummy thing on a stick. But yeah, anything

1606
01:20:52.840 --> 01:20:55.439
<v Speaker 12>on a stick and anything that can be deep fried,

1607
01:20:55.800 --> 01:20:59.119
<v Speaker 12>we've got it there at the Iowa State Fair.

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01:20:59.279 --> 01:20:59.760
<v Speaker 5>It really is.

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01:20:59.800 --> 01:21:03.439
<v Speaker 12>It's it's just absolutely incredible. I've loved it, and I

1610
01:21:03.479 --> 01:21:05.840
<v Speaker 12>was also able to clean them out of a few

1611
01:21:06.399 --> 01:21:08.760
<v Speaker 12>stuffed animals that I end up giving to my wife.

1612
01:21:09.039 --> 01:21:11.159
<v Speaker 5>With the shooting games, which I was proud of.

1613
01:21:11.119 --> 01:21:14.319
<v Speaker 10>Coming like a ringer, I will say a little disappointing

1614
01:21:14.319 --> 01:21:17.159
<v Speaker 10>to see that asa e bowls and could praise a

1615
01:21:17.199 --> 01:21:19.359
<v Speaker 10>salad on a stick made it onto the venue.

1616
01:21:20.039 --> 01:21:20.600
<v Speaker 3>I feel like.

1617
01:21:22.039 --> 01:21:27.239
<v Speaker 10>The socialists must be stopped. But shrimp corn dog was

1618
01:21:27.239 --> 01:21:29.680
<v Speaker 10>listed as a health food, which I think is actually

1619
01:21:29.760 --> 01:21:32.039
<v Speaker 10>kind of makes me. That makes me feel America's going

1620
01:21:32.079 --> 01:21:35.920
<v Speaker 10>to be okay. Yeah, I did want to ask. You

1621
01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:37.479
<v Speaker 10>talked about being bullied.

1622
01:21:38.760 --> 01:21:39.479
<v Speaker 3>As a kid.

1623
01:21:40.079 --> 01:21:43.000
<v Speaker 10>Have any of the people that to the point where

1624
01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:44.199
<v Speaker 10>you almost or you did leave school?

1625
01:21:44.279 --> 01:21:46.319
<v Speaker 5>You almost left school in sixth grade.

1626
01:21:46.359 --> 01:21:49.680
<v Speaker 12>I left public school and went to a small private

1627
01:21:49.720 --> 01:21:53.159
<v Speaker 12>school that my aunt was running. Only had a handful

1628
01:21:53.199 --> 01:21:56.039
<v Speaker 12>of kids in there, eight nine kids. And then I

1629
01:21:56.079 --> 01:22:00.079
<v Speaker 12>went back and finished public school. I went back for

1630
01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:00.720
<v Speaker 12>for high school.

1631
01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:02.680
<v Speaker 10>Have you ever heard from any of the kids that

1632
01:22:02.720 --> 01:22:05.039
<v Speaker 10>bullyed you? Have you ever seen them again? Now that

1633
01:22:05.079 --> 01:22:06.680
<v Speaker 10>you've kind of risen.

1634
01:22:07.279 --> 01:22:08.680
<v Speaker 5>I've run into a handful of them.

1635
01:22:09.079 --> 01:22:13.720
<v Speaker 12>Look, when it's tough growing up disabled, it's tough growing

1636
01:22:13.800 --> 01:22:16.760
<v Speaker 12>up in the kind of economic situation that I grew

1637
01:22:16.880 --> 01:22:19.399
<v Speaker 12>up in. I have run into a few of them.

1638
01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:22.640
<v Speaker 12>I don't hold it against them. You know, you're young,

1639
01:22:22.800 --> 01:22:26.399
<v Speaker 12>You're a kid. We all make mistakes when we're that young.

1640
01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:29.439
<v Speaker 12>They were probably going through a lot themselves. But I

1641
01:22:29.479 --> 01:22:32.640
<v Speaker 12>will say this, I certainly would never want to go

1642
01:22:32.760 --> 01:22:34.960
<v Speaker 12>through again what I went through. I mean, the twenty

1643
01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:36.520
<v Speaker 12>one surgeris by the age of twelve, I spent a

1644
01:22:36.640 --> 01:22:39.800
<v Speaker 12>lot of time up at Shriner's Hospital by myself.

1645
01:22:40.159 --> 01:22:41.119
<v Speaker 5>You know, full body cast.

1646
01:22:41.159 --> 01:22:43.159
<v Speaker 12>You can imagine a full body cast as a kid

1647
01:22:43.520 --> 01:22:46.159
<v Speaker 12>in the summer heat in Iowa with the humidity, and

1648
01:22:46.199 --> 01:22:48.279
<v Speaker 12>we didn't have air conditioning through the whole house, so

1649
01:22:48.319 --> 01:22:50.439
<v Speaker 12>you're taking a hangar just to try to it yourself.

1650
01:22:51.119 --> 01:22:54.600
<v Speaker 12>So I went through some really, really tough times. But

1651
01:22:54.680 --> 01:22:58.479
<v Speaker 12>what I believe is those that come out of that

1652
01:22:58.560 --> 01:23:02.239
<v Speaker 12>sort of circumstance, I believe that it creates a mental

1653
01:23:02.279 --> 01:23:05.319
<v Speaker 12>strength and a character that can't be broken. And I

1654
01:23:05.359 --> 01:23:07.760
<v Speaker 12>think it has uniquely prepared me well.

1655
01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:08.600
<v Speaker 5>For what this is.

1656
01:23:08.640 --> 01:23:11.319
<v Speaker 12>I say to people all the time, They'll say, Josh,

1657
01:23:11.399 --> 01:23:13.000
<v Speaker 12>thanks for running, thanks for what you're doing. I know

1658
01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:15.119
<v Speaker 12>how hard this is and I say, this is really

1659
01:23:15.119 --> 01:23:17.680
<v Speaker 12>really difficult. A life of hard things, including winning gold medals.

1660
01:23:17.720 --> 01:23:20.680
<v Speaker 12>This is harder than winning gold medals. But I say,

1661
01:23:20.720 --> 01:23:22.520
<v Speaker 12>this is not the hardest thing that I've gone through.

1662
01:23:23.039 --> 01:23:26.640
<v Speaker 12>And the thing for me is, because I have gone

1663
01:23:26.640 --> 01:23:30.199
<v Speaker 12>through the level of economic struggle and healthcare struggle, I

1664
01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:32.720
<v Speaker 12>have a different level of empathy and a different level

1665
01:23:32.720 --> 01:23:34.479
<v Speaker 12>of fight, and I think, I really do believe to

1666
01:23:34.520 --> 01:23:37.399
<v Speaker 12>my core that is what is missing in DC. We've

1667
01:23:37.399 --> 01:23:39.960
<v Speaker 12>got seventy three millionaires in DC, A lot of people

1668
01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:41.680
<v Speaker 12>that have come from privilege. You don't have a lot

1669
01:23:41.720 --> 01:23:43.640
<v Speaker 12>of people that have had to worry about missing a meal,

1670
01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:47.000
<v Speaker 12>keeping a roof of bother head, or healthcare struggles, you know,

1671
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<v Speaker 12>like oh, you know, where's my direct care worker going

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<v Speaker 12>to come from? Medicaid wait lists things like that, And

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<v Speaker 12>this is what we're missing. And I know I have

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<v Speaker 12>that fight, yeah, that fight for the people because I've

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<v Speaker 12>gone through that. I've experienced that same struggle myself.

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<v Speaker 10>Think having spina bifita puts you at an unfair disadvantage

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<v Speaker 10>for dealing with spineless politicians.

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<v Speaker 5>I've never heard that one before.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, I'll say this that there has been very

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<v Speaker 12>little representation from the disabled population at every level of government,

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<v Speaker 12>that's at the local, the state, and certainly at the federal.

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<v Speaker 12>There are very few with congenital disabilities. You can imagine

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<v Speaker 12>if you're blind or death, there's a communication barrier's nearly

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<v Speaker 12>impossible to overcome. Same with intellectual disabilities. So you're left

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<v Speaker 12>with a small subsegment of individual with physical disabilities. And

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<v Speaker 12>I'm not up there to represent just the disabled population,

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<v Speaker 12>but I do believe that my background and experience of

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<v Speaker 12>everything that I've gone through makes me a much better legislator,

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<v Speaker 12>and I think that's what's sorely missing in DC. And

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<v Speaker 12>I'm ready to go up there and fight for the people,

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<v Speaker 12>the people of Iowan, Iowa and Iowan's because everywhere I'm going,

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<v Speaker 12>people are hurting in their struggling and I've felt that struggle.

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<v Speaker 5>I've felt that pain.

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<v Speaker 12>And we shouldn't be living in the richest country on

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<v Speaker 12>Earth and this unbelievable level of wealth divide that we're

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<v Speaker 12>experiencing right now. We're billionaires and you know, people like

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<v Speaker 12>Elon Musk and the levels of what they're paying on

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<v Speaker 12>their taxes, and you know, things like Social Security, etc.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a whole lot that we can do.

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<v Speaker 10>Josh Shurek, thanks so much for your time, good to talk.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks for having good luck. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 12>We've got to go to Turk Foriowa dot Com.

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<v Speaker 5>Help us out. We really do.

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<v Speaker 12>We've got a once in a generation here opportunity to

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<v Speaker 12>change the state and change the country, and with everyone's help,

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<v Speaker 12>we're going to be able to do something really special

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<v Speaker 12>come November.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks to Josh Turk for coming on. Dan, we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>back on Sunday. You're going to talk to Danielle Butterfield,

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<v Speaker 2>who's the executive director of Priorities USA, that's the big

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic super pac, and I think you're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to her all about how Democrats can get their message

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<v Speaker 2>out to a lot of voters who just don't pay

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<v Speaker 2>that close attention to politics.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Danielle's one of the smartest strategists in our party,

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<v Speaker 3>and they have done deep research on how swing voters,

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<v Speaker 3>the voters we need most, are actually getting their information

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<v Speaker 3>and they have all She has a lot of really

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<v Speaker 3>interesting thoughts about how to how to get them, get

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<v Speaker 3>the message to them, and how we can begin to

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<v Speaker 3>win the fight in the twenty twenty eight election.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, I'm really looking forward to that conversation. Everyone

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<v Speaker 2>check it out and have a good weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Posave America is a Crooked media production. Our show is

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<v Speaker 2>produced by Austin Fisher, sul Ruben, McKenna, Roberts and Faris

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<v Speaker 2>Safaris with Ree Cherlin, Elijah Cone and Adrian Hill. Our

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<v Speaker 2>team includes Matt de Groat, Ben Hefcote, Jordan Kanter, Charlotte Landis,

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<v Speaker 2>David Toles, Mia Kelman, Ryan Young and Naomi Single. Our

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<v Speaker 2>staff is probably unionized with the Writers Guild of America

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