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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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<v Speaker 2>Discernment. We have people call up every single week talking

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<v Speaker 2>about discernment, and it's an important question and each case

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<v Speaker 2>may pose a different look at the word and the

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<v Speaker 2>action of discernment. But today I want you to think

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<v Speaker 2>about the day to day circumstances that you have to judge,

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<v Speaker 2>both spiritual and physical, and how to fine tune yourself

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<v Speaker 2>to that place of good discernment, that place of having

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<v Speaker 2>the sense of an old cow and eating the hay

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<v Speaker 2>and leaving the sticks. Sometimes it's it's not always as

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<v Speaker 2>cut and dry as you'd like, And to develop the

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<v Speaker 2>ability to sift through things is a is a great tool.

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<v Speaker 2>So today I want to talk about what scripture has

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<v Speaker 2>to say about discernment. Often, discernment is talked about in

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<v Speaker 2>scripture as judging, having the wherewithal to make a decision

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<v Speaker 2>between two or more options or things. But that word

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<v Speaker 2>judge or judgment takes on a negative connotation sometimes and

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<v Speaker 2>people get the word confused. One Corinthians two fifteen says,

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<v Speaker 2>but he that is spiritual judges all things. Matthew seven

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<v Speaker 2>to one says, judge not lest you be judged, and

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<v Speaker 2>people get caught up in that, and the believer looks

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<v Speaker 2>around and says, okay, I'm not supposed to judge. And

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunately the world looks at this and they remember only

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<v Speaker 2>the parts of scripture that they can use in some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of defense of their own ways and actions. They

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<v Speaker 2>remember this and they say, look, see it says, don't judge.

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<v Speaker 2>But you need to learn to know the difference when

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<v Speaker 2>scripture uses the word judgment and how it's meant. Does

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<v Speaker 2>it mean discernment or does it mean criticism? The Late

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<v Speaker 2>Great New Testament scholar F. F. Bruce pen this judgment

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<v Speaker 2>is an ambiguous word in Greek, as it is in English.

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<v Speaker 2>It may mean sitting in judgment on people or even

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<v Speaker 2>condemning them, or it may mean exercising a proper discrimination.

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<v Speaker 2>In the former sense, judgment is depreciated. In the latter sense,

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<v Speaker 2>it is recommended. So knowing the difference of when to

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<v Speaker 2>of what discerning is, and if you're in judgment or

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<v Speaker 2>in criticism versus you're actually analyzing a situation, discerning when

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<v Speaker 2>something is good for you or bad for you, or

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<v Speaker 2>good for the situation or bad for the situation. You

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<v Speaker 2>need to look deep into things. It's very easy to

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<v Speaker 2>get to that place where where you kind of just

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<v Speaker 2>look at the surface. You concern your things yourself with

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<v Speaker 2>the things that are our surface or topical, rather than

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<v Speaker 2>digging deep. Tewod Corinthians ten to seven warns against this.

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<v Speaker 2>It says that you are looking only at the surface

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<v Speaker 2>of things that doesn't have benefit. John seven twenty fours

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<v Speaker 2>is stop judging by mere appearances and make a right judgment.

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<v Speaker 2>Imply there that a right judgment is not made simply

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<v Speaker 2>by appearance. That's when judgement becomes a problem, when it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's you only looking at the the most surface part

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<v Speaker 2>of the issue and making a judgment, trying to jump

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<v Speaker 2>to a quick conclusion, rather than really understanding what's taking

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<v Speaker 2>place and why. And this becomes a huge part of discernment,

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<v Speaker 2>understanding and making that conclusion, or judging things properly. You

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<v Speaker 2>know this by testing things, by examining everything as first

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<v Speaker 2>Thessalonians five twenty one says, examine everything carefully, hold fast

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<v Speaker 2>to that which is good. We talk about that constantly

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<v Speaker 2>on the program, to test all things, holding fast to

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<v Speaker 2>that which is It's okay to examine, to probe, to

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<v Speaker 2>ask questions, even about your own faith because in doing so,

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<v Speaker 2>it shows one its value and that you care about

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<v Speaker 2>it enough to know the question to be curious. But two,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's you not just giving into the surface. As

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<v Speaker 2>John seven said, You're not judging by mere appearance. You're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to make the right decision and the right judgment,

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<v Speaker 2>and that comes from examining everything, looking at all sides.

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<v Speaker 2>How many times on this very program does someone call

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<v Speaker 2>up about a job situation that's a tough decision, and

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<v Speaker 2>oftentimes there's moving involved, more money involve, less money involved,

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<v Speaker 2>changes to the family lifestyle. These things should all be

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<v Speaker 2>looked at when you want to come to a conclusion

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<v Speaker 2>or using proper discernment as to what that decision should be.

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<v Speaker 2>Good discernment, although can be craft at ability that can

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<v Speaker 2>be honed for speed or to be more efficient. That

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<v Speaker 2>it shouldn't be something you rush into. Just like looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the appearance of something or scratching at the surface

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<v Speaker 2>of a concern a situation, you don't want to rush

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<v Speaker 2>into things. Proverbs nineteen two says that it's not good

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<v Speaker 2>to have zeal without knowledge, nor to be hasty and

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<v Speaker 2>miss the way, because these things are important. Every little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of an issue is part of what you should

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<v Speaker 2>be looking at, examining why is this knowledge so important,

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<v Speaker 2>why is taking the time so important? Because ignorance can

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<v Speaker 2>bring destruction. It's not just a lack of knowledge. Ignorance

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<v Speaker 2>is the absence of more tools that knowledge that will

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<v Speaker 2>help you make the proper decisions that will help you

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<v Speaker 2>through that road of discernment. Hoseiah four to six is

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<v Speaker 2>my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge, that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of ignorance that leads you to a bad decision, or

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<v Speaker 2>leads you down a bad road or something not healthy

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<v Speaker 2>or productive. It is what you are trying to steer

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<v Speaker 2>away from. When you deal with discernment, you're dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>getting all of the information you can, placing it in

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<v Speaker 2>front of you and examining it, not being surfaced, but

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<v Speaker 2>going below and truly analyzing and dissecting what's beneficial for you,

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<v Speaker 2>what's beneficial for the whole, for the family, for the

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<v Speaker 2>group or community. Even when people start to separate themselves

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<v Speaker 2>and just think selfishly is when greater problems arise. The

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<v Speaker 2>things that I command of you, or request or even

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<v Speaker 2>demand in scripture are not just to be some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of control freak. It really comes down to knowing what's

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<v Speaker 2>best for you, knowing what's best for the whole, and

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<v Speaker 2>asking you to participate in these things or not to participate,

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<v Speaker 2>as the case may be, so that so that you

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<v Speaker 2>can be a part of the whole, not in some

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<v Speaker 2>strange metaphysical sense, but truly knowing that you are to

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<v Speaker 2>communicate worship with one another, spend time with one another,

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<v Speaker 2>and even be held responsible for the decisions each person makes.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why discernment is so powerful, so potent, so important.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't get lost in just your way. In this sense,

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<v Speaker 2>in Hoseiah that an entire people are destroyed due to

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<v Speaker 2>lack of knowledge, true discernment becomes most valuable. The importance

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<v Speaker 2>of discernment cannot be understated. Nowhere can it be overstated.

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<v Speaker 2>The importance of being able to discern how you deal

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<v Speaker 2>with any situation or any decision or choice in life

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<v Speaker 2>is important. However, often people will look beyond scripture and

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<v Speaker 2>not really understand that the majority of your decisions can

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<v Speaker 2>be understood and applied to the things of Scripture. It's

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<v Speaker 2>funny how God does that right and throughout scripture it

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<v Speaker 2>points to ways and understanding and tools to be used

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<v Speaker 2>when discerning don't look at the surface things. Don't judge

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<v Speaker 2>by appearance. Test everything. Hold fast to that which is true,

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<v Speaker 2>which you can know. Judge using your spiritual knowledge based

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<v Speaker 2>on scripture. Know the difference between judgment as far as

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<v Speaker 2>criticism versus judgment, as far as discernment, that ignorance can

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<v Speaker 2>bring destruction. So to educate, educate yourself, show yourself approved

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<v Speaker 2>is imperative. True discernment is is kind of a big

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<v Speaker 2>picture thing, not just what's in front of you, but

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<v Speaker 2>observing everything around you. This is an interesting verse. Matthew

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen three says, and in the morning there will be

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<v Speaker 2>a storm today, for the sky is red and threatening.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know how to discern the appearance of the

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<v Speaker 2>sky but cannot discern the signs of the times? And

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<v Speaker 2>this verse is asking you to pull away from from

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<v Speaker 2>just those things that you're seeing or understanding, and using

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<v Speaker 2>them as tools to understand the bigger picture, not just

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<v Speaker 2>the storm in front of you, but what the season

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<v Speaker 2>is or the sign of the times, often a reference

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<v Speaker 2>to things that are to come. And you're to discern

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<v Speaker 2>things by God's standards. You know, the difference to immerse

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<v Speaker 2>yourself in God's word is the key John eight fifteen sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>You judge by human standards. But if I do judge,

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<v Speaker 2>my decisions are right because I am not alone. I

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<v Speaker 2>stand with the Father who sent me. I have much

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<v Speaker 2>to say in the judgment of you, but he who

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<v Speaker 2>sent me is reliable, and what I have heard from him.

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<v Speaker 2>I tell the world that relationship of understanding between that

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<v Speaker 2>which you read and known scripture, and that how that

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<v Speaker 2>in which you use to apply to everyday life scripture

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<v Speaker 2>will help guide you into discernment Hebrews four twelve. The

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<v Speaker 2>Word of God is living and active. It judges the

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Bernadette, Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus Christ Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm well how can I help you?

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<v Speaker 1>My last friend lost son a few years ago and

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<v Speaker 1>a median coming talent how and she's wanted to She's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to pray to see this's okay to so and

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<v Speaker 1>talk to the ABC the Median Show and hopefully Sym

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<v Speaker 1>I can reveal some things about how gun and the

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<v Speaker 1>app and like, how do you feel about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well as far as and I'm sorry to hear that

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<v Speaker 2>she lost his son, and I know that that when

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<v Speaker 2>somebody loses somebody some so close to them that it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's completely natural to want to reach out or to

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<v Speaker 2>have communication with them. Again, However, I believe that our

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<v Speaker 2>taking advantage of people in pain, and I think it's disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that it is kind of the worst of

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<v Speaker 2>the worst when it comes to pilfing money from people

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<v Speaker 2>I put them up with, like the the fake evangelists

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<v Speaker 2>and all of that that are looking to gain riches.

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<v Speaker 2>The sad part is that a lot of people don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that in scripture it says specifically to stay away

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<v Speaker 2>from these types of things specifically, And you can give

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<v Speaker 2>her this verse if maybe it will help her. It's

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<v Speaker 2>chapter eighteen of Deuteronomy, and I'll read it to you,

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<v Speaker 2>but we'll start in verse ten. It says, there shall

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<v Speaker 2>be not found among you anyone who makes his son

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<v Speaker 2>or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination,

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<v Speaker 2>or one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens,

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<v Speaker 2>or a sorcerer, or one who casts spells, or a

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<v Speaker 2>medium or spiritists, or one who calls up the dead.

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<v Speaker 2>For whoever does these things is detestable to the Lord. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's other verses as well that talk about that

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<v Speaker 2>God and the reason why is that these people, if

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<v Speaker 2>they serve God, have gone on to be with God.

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<v Speaker 2>And who are you anyone on this planet to interrupt

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<v Speaker 2>that if they're with God. And so people get selfish

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<v Speaker 2>and want to experience these people that were in their

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<v Speaker 2>lives again. And that's perfectly normal to have that desire.

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<v Speaker 2>What's not good or healthy is to act on that

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<v Speaker 2>desire and go to spiritists or mediums or psychics to

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<v Speaker 2>do these things. And another interesting story that might be

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<v Speaker 2>helpful is Second Samuel twelve twenty five. But you can read,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, starting at verse fifteen if you like. But

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<v Speaker 2>this is the story of David losing the sun. And

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<v Speaker 2>the interesting thing is is that David was, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>on his face the whole time, praying and for this

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<v Speaker 2>child and fasting and all of these things. And so

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<v Speaker 2>intense was this act that David wanted this child to

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<v Speaker 2>live that the servants didn't even want to tell him

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<v Speaker 2>when the child had died. So they figure, well, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, leave him alone. We don't if he's

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<v Speaker 2>this intense about praying, fasting, trying to keep that child alive,

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<v Speaker 2>then I don't want to be the one to tell him, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>David picks up on this, sees that they're whispering, and says, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>did the child die? They say yes, and he gets up,

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<v Speaker 2>cleans himself off, cleans himself off, and then goes to eat.

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<v Speaker 2>And people were like, well, you know, just seconds ago

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<v Speaker 2>you were praying without ceasing and fasting and all this intensity.

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<v Speaker 2>And David responds with this, while the child was still alive,

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<v Speaker 2>But now that he has died, why should I fast?

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<v Speaker 2>but he will not return to me. And what's powerful

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<v Speaker 2>moved too fast, anything you can do. But once the

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<v Speaker 2>that's eternal presence with God or the eternal absence of God,

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<v Speaker 2>which is called hell. And people don't always get that

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<v Speaker 2>through their head. And imagine this, that concept of being

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<v Speaker 2>Why if you think about these images of parents that

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<v Speaker 2>mean the normal sense of sadness as you see a

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<v Speaker 2>when they did this, or I remember, that's normal. But

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who physically would try and keep their child from

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<v Speaker 2>graduating high school because they're going to go on to college.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you imagine something so vulgar? But imagine now somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who's graduated from this earth, although on earth it's sad,

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<v Speaker 2>but graduated from this earth and gone on to be

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<v Speaker 2>to get them back here to earth. You can't do that,

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that it seems noble in some sense,

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<v Speaker 2>and then ah, well I want to keep them alive. No,

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<v Speaker 2>that is not good. It's unhealthy. You will never grow

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<v Speaker 2>past it. You will never grow past the initial pain

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<v Speaker 2>and mourn in a healthy, proper light, understanding that there

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<v Speaker 2>is a limit to the time that's spent on earth.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what makes it precious. And I think that the

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<v Speaker 2>psychics and these mediums and spiritists do a tremendous disservice

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<v Speaker 2>as much as they will claim, well, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I give closure, No, you continue to open wounds for

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<v Speaker 2>your own gain, and most of them are horrible to boot.

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<v Speaker 2>If I hear one more bad psychic say there's someone

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<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing a J, I'm seeing an R. It's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>And they pray on the fact that there's so many

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<v Speaker 2>of fact, just recently, you know, the entire concept of

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<v Speaker 2>of the Earth changing how things work, and it has

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<v Speaker 2>been changed for some time. So essentially, if you grew

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<v Speaker 2>up thinking that you're you know, a Capricorn, you're not,

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<v Speaker 2>or an Aquarius you're not, or a Leo you're not.

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<v Speaker 2>Because everything's shiftedilation was added and all kinds of members

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<v Speaker 2>and yet people still adhere to these things because nobody

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<v Speaker 2>wants to be accountable to consequence. Life has consequence, life

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<v Speaker 2>has death. There are things that you will experience in

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<v Speaker 2>life that aren't always pleasurable. And I'm fascinating that people

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<v Speaker 2>will take things like astrology, or take things like spiritists

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<v Speaker 2>and mediums and psychics and put all just all in

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<v Speaker 2>put the entirety of who you are there because God

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<v Speaker 2>is unchanging. And to them, that's just it's too much

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<v Speaker 2>to handle. That scripture stays the same, that God stays

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<v Speaker 2>the same. He says, I'm the same yesterday, today, and

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<v Speaker 2>always I say that I'm the Alpha and the omega,

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning and the end. There's no change in those things.

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<v Speaker 2>And people don't like that. People constantly call this show

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<v Speaker 2>trying to trying to find a loophole or or see

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<v Speaker 2>if it's changed. Hey, has this changed over the years? No,

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<v Speaker 3>Eh like that?

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<v Speaker 2>So they want something that's kind of well, give me

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<v Speaker 2>what I want when I want it, make me feel good,

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<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't always feel good. And Bernadette, I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>sorry that your friend lost her son, But please do

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<v Speaker 2>what you can to persuade her not to participate with

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<v Speaker 2>psychics and mediums. And they come by and really feed

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<v Speaker 2>on those that are in great pain. And why doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>she learn to to really, as we talk about on

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<v Speaker 2>the show, be the curator of the museum of her

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<v Speaker 2>son and teaching people about him and the wonderful things

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<v Speaker 2>he did and who he was and all these things

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<v Speaker 2>instead of trying to reconnect because God frowns upon that

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not possible to boot Rick, Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus Christ Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh for me, that's you.

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<v Speaker 2>How can I help you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just a truck driver out here, but I listened

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<v Speaker 3>to your show quite a bit on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Now, why would you say that? Why would you

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<v Speaker 2>say you're just a truck driver?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow?

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<v Speaker 3>Because that's that's where, that's who I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you're feeding people and you're bringing goods to them,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're doing all kinds of things. We love all

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<v Speaker 2>the truckers that listen to the program. So I'm happy

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<v Speaker 2>to have you. How can I help you?

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<v Speaker 3>I was just curious because I had a like almost

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<v Speaker 3>like a spiritual wakening back in about nineteen seventy six,

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<v Speaker 3>where I was searching for all through all different kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of religions, and I was into drugs and that sort

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<v Speaker 3>of thing, and and I just got an awareness that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the Christian Christ was real and and but

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<v Speaker 3>I just had a real struggle because of the drugs

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<v Speaker 3>and everything in my past life. But there's no way

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<v Speaker 3>that somebody can be If you don't accept Christ before

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<v Speaker 3>you die, then there's no way you can accept Christ.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, well, technically that point of death. He talks about

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<v Speaker 2>two deaths, and it talks about and this is where

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<v Speaker 2>the concept of being born again comes in. People think

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<v Speaker 2>it's like a denomination or a type of Christian But

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<v Speaker 2>every Christian, Catholic or otherwise has to be born again

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<v Speaker 2>or be gotten from above, a scripture says. And so

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<v Speaker 2>this talks about that concept of two deaths, and the

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<v Speaker 2>two death would be one the physical death, but the

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<v Speaker 2>spiritual death would be the separation from God. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean that you cease to be, although there are fringe

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<v Speaker 2>groups that believe that there are that you just stop being.

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<v Speaker 2>Mainstream Christianity in this particular show does not believe in

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<v Speaker 2>soul death or anything like that. So spiritual death would

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<v Speaker 2>mean the concept that you're being separated from God, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're being separated of God from God because of the

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<v Speaker 2>choices you make here. So if you choose to reject

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<v Speaker 2>God unto the point of death, then yes, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what happens if you say you you didn't die

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<v Speaker 3>physically and you died spiritually, Well, you're not dying.

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<v Speaker 2>You're dying to yourself. You don't die spiritually. Your spirit

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<v Speaker 2>is everlasting at this point. It's just the determination is

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's everlasting in heaven or everlasting apart from God,

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<v Speaker 2>which is called hell. Right, So are you saying if

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<v Speaker 2>you had if you repented from something, rick, if you've

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<v Speaker 2>turned away from those things and you did you when

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<v Speaker 2>you were moved to say okay, there is a God.

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<v Speaker 2>Christ is that God, and I will serve him. You

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<v Speaker 3>Repenting, like repentance, is a change of heart or a

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yes, it's turning. The word actually translates to me

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<v Speaker 2>turning away from So you've moved away from your old

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<v Speaker 3>It has. It's been something that I've done immediately. It's

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<v Speaker 2>Everything wonderful takes time, right, everything, Like I haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>Given up everything all at once, you know, like I

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<v Speaker 3>And I've been working on my how I treat people.

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<v Speaker 3>And have you ever heard of AA? Yes, of course, asnonymous.

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<v Speaker 3>I went through that program, and that's where I kind

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we hear that a lot on this program. A

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<v Speaker 2>find that in the process of finding the you're powerless

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<v Speaker 2>against many things, do find God. Unfortunately, some of them

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<v Speaker 2>don't find me, but they eventually come around and find,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, something that they call God, and that's not

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, well I went in with the already convinced

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<v Speaker 2>only are you in this process and then things that

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<v Speaker 2>you're changing your saying I'm removing this from my life,

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<v Speaker 2>of removing that from my life, but to know that

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<v Speaker 2>God ultimately is not only the author the beginner of

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<v Speaker 2>And that God walks with you in a partnership of

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<v Speaker 2>that God is with you through that process refining. Just

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<v Speaker 2>like you know fire to metal refines it, and that

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<v Speaker 2>all you do is that is that God gives you

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<v Speaker 2>that God given fire. That dross comes to the top,

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