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Speaker 1: Made a decision.

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Speaker 2: Oh sunny Sun on IDASIONN.

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Speaker 3: So what's up everybody? Welcome to for crying out loud.

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This is weird for people. I'm going to just acknowledge

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that it's me. It's Stephanie Wilder Taylor doing the intro.

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That has happened very few times in like fifteen years.

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But it's me. Lynette is on vacation. But this is exciting.

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I have a personal friend of mine, friend of the show,

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amazing writer, a talented podcaster. Her podcast is called Oddly

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Oddly specific. You can pipe in oh oh yeah yeah.

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Also also she is a social media she's she's blown

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up on TikTok. When it was last here, you had

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like two hundred and something, about two hundred something. Now

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we're like almost at three hundred thousand, three hundred thousand

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TikTok followers. It's Meredith Lynch, everybody. I think we teased

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her appearance coming up through Why do I almost say,

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oddly pacific.

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Speaker 1: That's the story of my life. I'm like, no, it's

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great to be here. I love love this. As you know,

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this was like the first podcast I ever got into

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when I was like a twenty five year old and

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I was like, I'm obsessed with this podcast of these.

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Speaker 3: Two mom what possible reason. I guess you needed a mom.

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I did need a mom young yeah. Yeah, and we

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have Lynette and I have big aunt energy.

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Speaker 1: Total ant energy, big sister energy. And I just thought,

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I mean, also, like, there weren't a ton of podcasts

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out then, and you guys were like a weekly show.

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Speaker 3: That's true, and we we used to like way back

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in the day, we had some cool guests.

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Speaker 1: I didn't like guests, so I wouldn't even like me.

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Speaker 3: Nobody likes guests. I mean, they're gonna love you. They

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loved you. They loved you when you've been on before

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and they were like, she can come back. Our audience

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is very oddly specific about what they like and don't like.

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Speaker 1: I love your audience. Though I am very active in

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the for Crying Out Loud Facebook group. I don't I

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don't always comment, but I am a lurker. And let

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me just tell you, I'm in a lot of Facebook

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groups and they are They're like, they're so awful. There's

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so many that are so mean where people just like

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bully people. But your group is so sweet, Like people

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will just be like my daughter's looking at colleges. Anyone

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have a recommendation for a hotel and I don't know Seattle, Washington.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, just nice people, yes, And we have all

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of our like our people, like we have our our

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travel agent and our car broker and ore and they're

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all like kind of in the group, like standing by,

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like standing by.

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Speaker 1: It's a little community, Yeah, it really is.

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Speaker 3: It's nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I have been in other communities too. I got thrown out,

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like we are, let's already talk shit. So I got

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thrown out. This is so many years ago, and we

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did do an episode on it of the my favorite

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murder Facebook group I got, I got muted. Well, it

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doesn't exist anymore because it was so mean that Karen

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and Georgia shut it the whole thing down. It's like,

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nobody can play nice. You guys are coming for us,

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the host, You're coming for people within the group. It

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was just so okay. People will like get mad at

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me for saying this. But at the time too, we

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were like I'm pretty woke, Like I am pretty woke

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and progressive obviously, but these people were like mad at

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me for for some you remember this same story from

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the same time ago there was another girl in the

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group who who somebody just came for her and they

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kicked her out and she didn't even do anything wrong,

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and I was like standing by, going like, what what'd

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she do? How'd she get hurt? She was like, and

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then the person and then she was like girl at

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one point, and then the person who had a female

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avatar in their Facebook was like, how dare you assume

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my gender or whatever? And the person who got thrown

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out was like, oh my god, I'm sorry if I

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did that, but like I what I I'm like a

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good person. I had good intentions, and they threw her

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out and then I started arguing with them, and then

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they threw me out.

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Speaker 1: It's like a bar fight.

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Speaker 3: But I was like, wow, this is like a mean

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ass group.

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Speaker 1: What were you doing in the group to be like

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what would people do in the group to begin with?

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Speaker 3: I feel like I might have just been in there

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to cause trouble in the first place, like if her

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being honest.

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Speaker 1: Yeah or yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think, oh, I know, because there was a bunch

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of stuff going on with that podcast and they were

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everybody was mad at the hosts, so I think I

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was wanting the tea Oh yeah, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing. Okay. You know what's weird though, was like,

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you know, we used to have the d of the

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of the like the reality stars, et cetera, and now

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it's morphed into like the drama of the podcasters of

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the reality show. And I'm like, sometimes that just feels

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like a little too meta even for me.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it does, it does. Now. I just use Reddit

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for my reality. I go to Reddit for reality stuff,

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like if I've watched Real Housewives of Beverly Hills the

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night before, and I want to know what people think,

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you know, or what they're mad about, and that's where

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I go. That's what I cap check.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes I try not to go on Reddit only because,

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like you know, there there's a few posts about me,

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and they they cut a little bit, and so I

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try not to.

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Speaker 3: I looked before because I think we were talking about it.

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So I went and looked at I didn't see anything.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I find them. There's like Meredith Lynch took one

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graduate level communications class and now she thinks she has

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everything figured out. I'm like, I've never even taken.

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Speaker 2: One graduate communications class, so.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, you overestimate me.

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Speaker 1: There is someone though, who has an account that's like

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specifically to bully me, but it's on TikTok and it's

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called y'all are gonna love this. It's called Meredith Lynch

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should get braces? What you guys? I had braces? So

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like I don't really And so they.

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Speaker 3: You have adorable straight teeth.

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Speaker 1: I mean like honestly, everybody's teeth shifts as we get older,

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and like, my bottom ones are a tiny bit crooked,

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but like my top two yeah, my top one, yes, right.

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Speaker 3: And my bottom ones went crazy. They like they're completely

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doing their own thing. And it's only been in the

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last like eight years. So all of a sudden, I'm like, oh, no,

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do I need braces?

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Speaker 1: Do they try to push them on you at the dentist? No,

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they pushed. Do they push them on you?

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Speaker 2: I need to go back to the dentist. It's been

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a little while.

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm a dentist pusher.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll make you go. Yeah, it's been a little

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too long.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna text you right after this like hi, no,

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but yeah, they have an account called Meredith Lynch to

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get braces, and they took a photo of me, and

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I'm pretty sure they doctored my tea on it and

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then they have that as their profile picture. Yeah, and

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and they leave me all kinds of crazy comments and uh.

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Speaker 3: The other day is Bethany Frankel?

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Speaker 1: No? People always say that, and I'm like, no, I don't.

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I do.

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Speaker 3: I mean, she seems to have a lot of time

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on her hands.

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Speaker 1: She does, but like, I also don't think she's that

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Internet savvy, Like I don't think she'd know how to

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edit a photo.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if she'd gets somebody to do it.

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Speaker 1: I think Bethany, all things considered, like what doesn't want

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to fuck with me again? Okay, you know, yeah, I

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think I think she's savvy enough to know that. So yeah,

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I think I know who it is though, because they

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really fucked up the other day.

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Speaker 3: Would they do?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 1: They I put up a Instagram story and right after

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I put it up, they left a comment about the

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Instagram story on TikTok. But like, here's the I can

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see who looks at my Instagram stories And I had

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just put it out, so I was like, oh, I

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know it's one of you. Like it was a tiny

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little list and I was like, oh, I know who

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it is now, so it's okay. You don't have. Like,

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here's the thing, it's totally cool to not like me.

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Speaker 3: Did they do that on their Meredith needs Brace's account.

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Actually they looked at it on that account.

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Speaker 1: No, a different account, but it was just such a

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small amount that I could tell. And I had already

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had my suspicions on who they were, so I was like, oh, confirmation.

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But actually they changed their username. It's no longer Meredith

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Lynch should get braces. Now, it's like Meredith Lynch seven

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dollars Patreon because they're like, they're really mad that I

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have a Patreon. They really don't like that I have

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a Patreon.

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Speaker 3: Well that's free advertising. Yeah, I know, I hear that

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as only seven dollars, totally like, hey, get in there

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on the seven dollars level and you can hear a

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lot of juicy content.

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Speaker 1: You can hear you, guys. I'll tell you right now.

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There's a great post on there about how Jason Sedakis

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has the same hobby as Luis kh.

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Speaker 2: Ah what what? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And I don't mean stand up, so listen, that's like

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I just give that to you for free. But yeah,

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so anyway, that's that's my hater, and so I try

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not to like indulge too much in it because they

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come that's the great thing they come to me.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, I mean you can find this on any

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social media platform, you know, yeah, Facebook, the Instagram, the TikTok.

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I'm sure they all like find what is the thing

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behind finding somebody who's not even famous? Because I'll use myself.

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I use myself as an example and just like developing

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like a white hot hatred for the person, Like why

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not just not like it's not like we've dated them before,

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you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Right? I think? No, I think like, but I do

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think there's some thing there because I say that too,

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Like I'm like, I'm like, I'm just like a fucking

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dumb ass in a one bedroom apartment in West LA.

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So humble brag, but no, that only means something to

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be But you know, uh I I don't. I am

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surprised that someone like would have that much just like

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for me, Like I get it. I don't get it

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when it's like, oh I feel that way about Megan Markle,

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Like I get it when it's like a big, big celebrity,

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Speaker 2: Like, it's just what's that I can't stand Megan mark.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was like all for Megan Markle, and

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now I'm like, girl, that's a fuck enough, Like, I'm

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all fucking set with you.

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Speaker 3: Why I don't understand. I don't follow her, so I

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don't get She's very polarizing though, or is it just

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one one way most people seem to not like care

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for her?

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Speaker 1: Why don't you care for her?

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Speaker 2: She just bugs the shit out of me? First of all,

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I like, I don't like I am half English, but

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I don't care at all about the royalty and prince

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and princess. But I understand like a lot of people do.

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But like, to be fair, I haven't, Like I haven't

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watched her new Netflix show. I've just seen clips of her,

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like making pasta on it, and I.

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Speaker 1: Think that's all you need to do.

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Speaker 2: Why, like, why, why do people care? Why do they

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care about this it? I don't. I don't get it,

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and she seems insufferable.

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Speaker 1: I think it's one of those things where two things

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are true at the same time, right, Like I would

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imagine that being in the royal family is really fucking shitty. Yeah,

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it seems I wouldn't want to be in it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guarantee he doesn't seem that great, right, seemed

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she's no longer with us. Yeah, she didn't seem great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Prince wasn't a very good guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah she's even worse.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about King. I was talking about Prince Uh.

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one of the Yeah. They like they know he did.

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They like they cut him off. They were like Prince Andrew,

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Speaker 1: Oh Andrew, Yes you met William. I was like it

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was like William would have been like fifteen no, yes,

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Andrew is yeah, yeah, you're right. Well no, I just

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think like being in the royal family would be a nightmare,

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and like marrying into any family is fucking hard, right,

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first person of color to ever join this family. You

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get pregnant, and literally they're like, hey, do you mind

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just like giving us a prediction on how black the

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baby's gonna be?

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Speaker 2: Like that's at first, I will admit, at first I

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was on that team. But the more then they left,

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then they came over here. Then she starts a podcast

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that like she doesn't then work on, and she's just

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thrown all these massive opportunities that she seems to just

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not do anything with or like really say anything with.

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for being from the royal family and not working on

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their own podcast, Like can she? I mean, does Oprah

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work on all her own all the projects that are

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under oprah name?

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works on her show. She like right, I mean.

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Speaker 1: She's first of all, she's a little hustler, right, Like

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she fucking hustled.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's hungry.

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Speaker 1: So did but so like Megan Markle did too, and

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in a lot of ways, I think, like you don't

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end up a series regular. Like I remember reading about her.

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so like work for like the I don't know, the government,

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and she kept taking the test and she kept failing,

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and then when that didn't work out, she was like, Okay,

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I want to get on a TV show so I

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can be in like SAG. And I think it would

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have just been SAG at the time, so I can

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be in SAG. So I don't fault her for that.

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She's very strategic, so like, good for fucking her, right,

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is like she kind of like Oprah's a great interviewer.

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Oprah has like plucked people and made people into stars.

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Speaker 3: But like great people.

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Speaker 1: No great people, but like, I don't know, I think

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that's the that's maybe the difference there. And like Oprah

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was like a trained journalist, that's probably also the difference.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's not fair to compare Oprah to

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Megan Markle.

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Speaker 1: Megan Markle would love it, though, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: She would love it. Oprah's Oprah, like she's great.

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Speaker 3: Nor was saying that how do we feel about the fight?

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It's gonna be like the oldest fucking reference ever, But

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how how are we feeling about when Oprah had a

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fight with eyan La van Zant? Remember that, No, am

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I going to just be the oldie in the room.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know who that other place?

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Speaker 3: You remember like fixed my life, Iyana fixed my life?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: And many years ago yan Lo van Zant she had

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had a book. I read her book. It was there's

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one called in the meantime that was her book. Anyway,

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Oprah basically kind of was going to give her this

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giant opportunity, and i Yanla was like, yeah, I don't know,

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Yanla got a too big for her breeches. And then

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Oprah was like, all right, well fuck off then like

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and then Iyanla later was just like, oh my god,

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what did I do? And was like apologizing to Oprah?

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And I never knew whose side to be on with that, Like,

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was Oprah like, I'm just gonna offer you no great

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Oprah was basically like I made you because she was

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a guest on Oprah a bunch, right, And then Oprah

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was gonna give her a show I think it was.

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And then either a Yama was like I don't need you,

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like I'm gonna do my I don't remember what the

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details were. I thought maybe you guys would remember. Why

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would you? Why would you possibly remember my story about

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a Yamla van zandt fix my life?

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Speaker 1: I remember that show though, Yeah, I loved it.

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Speaker 3: I loved it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I think if I was

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in the Oprah world, I would just shut the fuck

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up and go along for the ride. Look at poor

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Gail has to go to space. That's how committed she

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got to the Oprah thing. Did you see that Gil's

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going to space? Oh my god, did you see that

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Gal's going to space?

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Speaker 3: No, you're breaking news right now, guy.

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Speaker 2: That was a thing for a few months, like, Hey,

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we're doing rides to space and it's Jeff Bezos and

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it's William Shatner, and then like I feel like they

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just stopped doing that.

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Speaker 3: We're not doing well with air travel right now. In general.

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I don't think like if Elon's behind it, I would

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like go to space right now.

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Speaker 1: That's a good point.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, Let's get flying to Phoenix down first and then

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go to Mars. Okay, let's settle down.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't fuck with space because they didn't let

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Lance Basco.

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Speaker 3: I agree, right, How Plance bask get hurt?

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Speaker 1: Do you remember when Lance wanted it?

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Speaker 3: Of course I do. Yes, such a big deal, such

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a big deal.

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Speaker 1: Well, now there's this new space group that's going and

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it's just like all the most fucking insufferable people. And

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then Gail King, it's like Katie Perry, Oh, let's send her,

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let's not bring her back. Lauren Sanchez, the Bezos fiance. Okay,

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I can't even afford to get her lips fixed. I'm

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sorry be such a cut today. No, but like, have

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you seen your lips?

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Speaker 3: I don't think I have. I wish we had. I

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wish this was now a video podcast. We could be

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like going it up on the screen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here's the deal with her lips, because I actually

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went to a professional about this. Oh, her lips have

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this like thing where they kind of like are there.

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it's almost like she can never close her lips because

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the top, the top lip is like up and Helen

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can find an image for us and we'll all America.

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Speaker 2: Will I can't show you, but I'm looking at it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and do you see what I'm saying?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, are you talking about her upper lip? Yep, yep?

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Speaker 1: Okay. So I asked my I asked someone I will

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say who I asked, But I was like, so, what's

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going on there? And they said, well, most likely she

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just has an injector who's refusing to say no. And

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so like now she's just like, yeah, but rental looks

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better than what's going on over there. So anyway, who

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else is going. Who else is on that trip? It's

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like Lauren Sanchez somebody else who's really fucking annoying. I

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can't remember, but anyway, Carrie Underwood, I wish. But it's

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it's like, do you have any desire to go to space?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Yes, you do, of course you do.

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Speaker 2: Your guy?

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Speaker 1: What is what's going on there that we don't like?

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Speaker 3: Science fiction?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I'm rewatching the show called The Expanse right now,

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and it's you hate it so much and I love it,

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really good space TV show, like six seasons and I've

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already seen it and I'm watching it again.

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Speaker 3: Is it a doc?

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Speaker 2: No, well, it's just a regular TV show. But it's

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so good.

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Speaker 3: People have gone to space. They could have footage from

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that footage. Yeah, Jalen says, it's like, of course not,

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it's not a doc. Like it's not real. Space isn't real.

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That's a sci fi thing. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just like I've never really fucked with space. Yeah,

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Like I don't feel like I need it. Is there

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anything going on up there? Kilan, Is there anything happening

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up there that we really need?

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Speaker 2: Don't get me started on aliens, because oh no, I'll

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go off on that topic too.

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Speaker 3: Are aliens in space or are they in another? On

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another well, I guess planets are in space.

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Speaker 2: They're everywhere.

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Speaker 3: You think, Yeah, you think they're here and we just

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can't see them.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean they walk among us. I think that

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they're in the ocean, like deep deep down in the ocean.

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But I'm not sure about walking among us that one.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say, why do you think they're in the ocean.

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Speaker 2: Because there's there's videos of objects like coming out of

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the ocean and then setting off into the sky at

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like an insane rate of speed, like it's a whale.

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Speaker 3: Like, why would they be in the ocean? Like, let's

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just think about this for a minute. Why would they

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be in the ocean.

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Speaker 2: Because we can't get that. We can't get down there.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we can, we do go down there. Well

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it's really a titanic.

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Speaker 2: Well, like you can't like navigate through the ocean and

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going that far down.

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Speaker 3: They're hiding from us.

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Speaker 2: Then they're staying out there. They're just watching us. They

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like to watch us. We're entertaining, they're entertaining.

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Speaker 3: To them, But how are they watching us from the

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bottom of the ocean.

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Speaker 2: They have a lot of really advanced technology.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, like submarine technology, like they just shoot

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stuff up and then they like a little summarine things like.

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Speaker 2: A little drone. It just launches the drone from from

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like the best.

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Speaker 1: They're big f col fans, They're like, fuck that guest, Meredith,

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bring back Linnette.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: But I think I you know what, I don't disagree.

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I think I believe that there's other life forms in

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this planet. I don't know if they're in this, in

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this whatever in the not Solar System galaxies. I believe

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in that. I don't know if there's aliens in the ocean.

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But here's the way I see it, Like I don't

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know that we need like other than the alien thing,

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which we don't need to I don't know that we

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need to know about them.

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Speaker 3: And we could just go under the ocean. According to Kailin,

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we don't have to go to space.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, you could do either. I just want to

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go to space because it's cool. It would be so

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cool to see the Earth from like that far away

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and to be you.

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Speaker 3: Could google it google images.

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Speaker 2: And see I can google like the Caribbean too, But

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I'd rather go there and like lay on the beach.

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I want to see it for myself.

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Speaker 3: You're not going to like lay on another planet though,

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you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: I could, I would were you like always a kid

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that likes space, h I.

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Speaker 2: Love black holes and dark matter and super all that

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sort of stuff.

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Speaker 3: It's so cool though, but if you follow in the

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black hole then you're gonna die, Like.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's not going to be fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Would you go to space if it meant you had

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to go with Lauren Sanchez and Gail.

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Speaker 2: I've been googling to try and find the rest of

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this the flight, which is Katie Perry, Gail King, Lauren Sanchez,

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Amanda Nuian.

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Speaker 3: This is not Amanda Bindes.

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Speaker 2: Asha Boo, and Carrie Anne Flynn. Those are the women.

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Speaker 3: I don't recognize the other name.

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Speaker 1: I think they're more they're like more like academic and

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like I think someone's a space person, so they're probably

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Kaylin's friend.

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Speaker 3: And do you think they're going to be like what

474
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the fuck is Lauren Sanchez doing with us?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's like when you go on a trip and

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you're like, well, her dad paid for it, Like, I

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guess we have to bring our I guess.

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Speaker 2: It's a blue origin spaceflight. So it's Jeff Bezos's thing.

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be nice to her. Yeah, but are they like, why

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is Katy Perry here? Or are they Are they like

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Katy Perry fans? I think they're Katy Perry fans. All right,

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let's take a quick break and talk about some excuse me,

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let's talk about pretty litter. Meredith, do you have any cats?

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Speaker 3: Is it possible to go back to this Jason Sudakis story.

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Speaker 1: Gladly I would be honored.

541
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Speaker 3: Okay, so let's let's backtrack a little bit on this story.

542
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Jason Sudeikis got divorced from Olivia wild Olivia Wilde and

543
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he and there was a lot of like go and stuff.

544
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He was like real kind of desperate to he was

545
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coming over right, he was trying to hang out. She

546
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was calling him a nuisance.

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Speaker 1: I think that's when she was dating Harry Styles. Yes,

548
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and that was like and listen, she would like.

549
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Speaker 3: Jason sudak Is for Harry Style though, right, right, right,

550
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and then Harry.

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Speaker 1: Styles was like they yeah, but I mean like they

552
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dated for like a few years.

553
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Speaker 2: They did.

554
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they dated for like probably like three or four years.

555
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So like, I feel like that's worth it for like

556
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,960
a good three years of banging Harry Styles. Yeah, I agree,

557
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,680
And Jason Snigas seems like an asshole.

558
00:26:36,759 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 3: So I know that's what I'm trying to find out. Well,

559
00:26:40,039 --> 00:26:42,160
now we're finding out, But did we already? Did we

560
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always think that?

561
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Speaker 2: I mean I just associate him with Ted Lasso, So

562
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like I've always.

563
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 3: Thought everybody everybody loves Ted Lasso?

564
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: Do they?

565
00:26:51,839 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 2: I don't.

566
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 3: I didn't like season two, but okay, what let's that

567
00:26:55,599 --> 00:26:58,119
you don't like it. I didn't like season two that much.

568
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:58,559
I don't.

569
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Speaker 1: I think it's a little yeah, yeah, it's I liked

570
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,279
it season one, but I lost interest.

571
00:27:07,319 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 3: But anyway, go on.

572
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,519
Speaker 2: He's always just been that guy to me though outside

573
00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:13,319
of the show. When I see him, I'm like, oh, yeah,

574
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,279
like that makes sense that you do ted Lasso and

575
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:16,839
you're like, because he seems like he's that guy.

576
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Speaker 3: I feel like he has golden retriever energy exactly.

577
00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

578
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: But that's always those all those are always the ones

579
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you gotta watch.

580
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Speaker 3: I can't wait. So what's okay? Story?

581
00:27:25,079 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: So I remember reading like that he like, you know,

582
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,519
when Olivia Wilde would be like trying to leave the

583
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house and they were like separated, he like threw himself

584
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in front of the car.

585
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Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about.

586
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Speaker 1: To me, that's very manipulative, right, Oh you think yeah?

587
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And so anyway, I just was like, I'm not into him.

588
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,359
And then remember he claims I didn't know what was happening,

589
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but she got served papers while on stage at like

590
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a women in Film event. Yes, and she it was

591
00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:56,359
like incredibly embarrassing, and he was like, oh, I didn't

592
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know that they were going to do it then, and

593
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it seemed like it was like an event where you

594
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needed like access to get in. It seemed like they

595
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probably did know that he was that like that that

596
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was going to happen. So when he started to get

597
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really into the w NBA and become like obsessed with

598
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Kitlin Clark, which like, I think it's really cool. Caitlin

599
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,279
Clark seems awesome. I love that, like, you know, women's

600
00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:23,119
basketball is like finally starting to get like, you know

601
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what I think it deserves. But he was like just

602
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going a little too hard for me. Like I was like,

603
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,559
all right, he's really trying to sell us on him,

604
00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:33,559
being like, yeah, I'm the w NBA guy. And he

605
00:28:33,599 --> 00:28:36,440
would like taunt Angel Reese when she was still in

606
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college and she's sort of like Kaitlin Clark's rival or

607
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what the media has made a rival. And I was like,

608
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I don't know, I think it's like weird that like

609
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a grown man is like taunting a college Like where

610
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was he doing this like.

611
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Speaker 3: A like a games, oh, like yelling shit out at gameses, like.

612
00:28:51,359 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: Acting like a like like grow the fuck up. Why like,

613
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you're also supposed to be the like Ted Lasso guy.

614
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And then he would just be like so into like

615
00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:01,359
the Kaitlin Clark thing that I was like, something is

616
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,559
something feels fucking weird here?

617
00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:04,079
Speaker 3: Yeah?

618
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Speaker 1: Right? And so I was like, I think he's using

619
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like women's basketball to rehab his image because he doesn't

620
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have a great reputation with women. This was like maybe

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two years after all the Olivia Wild stuff came out.

622
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So I just said this on social media. I was like,

623
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I feel like he's using women to rehab his image.

624
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And then it was just like a flood of information

625
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was sent to me regarding him and IMS or was

626
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,400
it out there in the open bms some in the open?

627
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And I can tell you, like I talk listen, I've

628
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been known to talk a little bit of shit. Okay,

629
00:29:39,559 --> 00:29:44,920
I have never talked about someone. And then had so

630
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:50,400
many corroborating stories sent to me, wow about someone and

631
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,839
from all different people, and basically they were just like, yeah,

632
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,559
he's like an absolute piece of shit. He this is

633
00:29:59,599 --> 00:30:02,559
what I was told. He has a hobby that's similar

634
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I won't even say what it is, but.

635
00:30:05,359 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 3: Allegedly masturbating in front of that suspect.

636
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: I can't wait till I get a seasoned desist from Jason.

637
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Speaker 3: Today, guys, I said it, I'll get the season, but.

638
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: They that multiple people told me that that's what he

639
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,039
has done, among other things that you know happen in

640
00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:27,960
Hollywood with favoritism and weirdness. And I was told there's

641
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something that's like that's probably going to come to light

642
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,279
sooner rather than later. Interesting and so, and I think

643
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that's why.

644
00:30:35,759 --> 00:30:39,079
Speaker 2: He doing this like without permission or is just just

645
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like a kink thing for him, like because if he's

646
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,319
if he's doing it like without their permission, that's one thing, right,

647
00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:49,440
but that's just like that's just like.

648
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 3: Listen, let's not hate on all people that I'm not.

649
00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:54,319
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to I don't want all right.

650
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Speaker 3: I think that it might be the wokest episode no.

651
00:31:01,079 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: Like, I mean, from what I could understand, there was

652
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:06,480
like power dynamics involved, similar to the Luis c K thing,

653
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,519
because like Louis c K, like, there were some people,

654
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,759
like I think it was like Sarah Silverman who's like, yeah,

655
00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:13,000
let's fucking go, But there are plenty of women who

656
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,480
don't want that happening in front of them.

657
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've told this story before. I have a friend

658
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:22,920
like who I was very good friends with who is

659
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,839
it called contemporaneously like told me like right after it happened.

660
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,680
It's not like, oh, you know what happened to me

661
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,119
a long time ago. It was like right after it happened.

662
00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:34,720
She was like, oh my god, this is so crazy.

663
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,359
But I was and it was at this comedy festival

664
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and she was like, but Louis c k asked me

665
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if I wanted to watch him masturbate, and she was like,

666
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:49,160
and I was like all right, So she went to up.

667
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,160
He was like, okay, come up to my hotel room,

668
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,759
and then basically she went and like sat down and

669
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he like whipped it out, masturbated to completion, and then

670
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was like thanks, and she was like okay, cool. And

671
00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:04,400
then of course a lot of people knew that story

672
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because she told everybody. So then later when all the

673
00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:10,119
Louis stuff came out and this was like ten years later,

674
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maybe more people like were like, you should say something

675
00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:17,759
to the press. She had press coming to her, going

676
00:32:17,759 --> 00:32:20,039
will you tell this story? And she was like no,

677
00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:23,920
because like it wasn't against my will, like I have

678
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,480
nothing to tell, like he asked me if I was

679
00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:29,279
would be interested by something I'd like to see and

680
00:32:29,319 --> 00:32:33,319
she said yeah. So she's like, well, I didn't get

681
00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:36,079
hurt by it, but I'm just saying so there were

682
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,640
other right, But there were many other people who did

683
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,519
not feel that way, who he was masturbating on the

684
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phone when they were not suspecting it. There was like

685
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a lot of stuff he did. So that's where it

686
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,039
gets tricky, though, is where totally some people are like

687
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:54,079
like Sarah Silverman was like, what am I gonna do? Like, yeah,

688
00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:55,680
he did that, but it was never.

689
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Speaker 1: Didn't bother me or whatever. I also think like there's

690
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different like power dynamics, So like what if you're like,

691
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I'm just making this up, but like what if you're

692
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,519
a writer on ted Lasso and he's like, hey, do

693
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you want this? You're like no, not really, but like

694
00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:14,160
I mean maybe that'll get me something like I mean,

695
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,279
that's that's what happens, like the lines get blurred and whatever.

696
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,640
Like that's I think the problem. So listen, maybe it's

697
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,519
completely untrue about Jason Sadakis, but I will say, like,

698
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,240
just as someone who like I've talked a lot of

699
00:33:28,279 --> 00:33:30,240
shit in my day and when you start to hear

700
00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:33,279
the same thing again and again, and that's like, I mean,

701
00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:35,839
that's that's just holly weird. When you start to hear

702
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,839
the same rumor again and again a lot of times

703
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,920
there's some yeah to.

704
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Speaker 3: It and people won't believe it. Just like you know,

705
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,160
you heard the same story about Bill Cosby like a

706
00:33:46,279 --> 00:33:50,599
hundred times, I think literally a hundred times, and people

707
00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:54,960
were like, nah, not our Bill. Maybe people just maybe

708
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,200
he was just offering him like a tasty beverage that

709
00:33:58,359 --> 00:34:00,319
relaxed them. Like why do we all have to like

710
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,640
come down on Bill Cosby? He's the bagilla puddin guy.

711
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

712
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,159
Speaker 3: I love that Preadith is looking at Kaylin like is

713
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:09,480
this no?

714
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:12,199
Speaker 1: I really I feel like I'm ruined. First of all,

715
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,400
Kaylin didn't know about Bill Cosby, so now, but it's

716
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,280
like I'm.

717
00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 3: Kaylin's like, not my Bill Cosby.

718
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: But I do think there's something about the guy who

719
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,639
always plays the really good guy.

720
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 3: Yeah right, yes, yeah. People are not their characters on TV, right.

721
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:43,199
I mean it's very rare that somebody is like, oh

722
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,800
my god, he plays this really nice guy and he's

723
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,960
just the nicest guy. Like people are actors, Yeah, and

724
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,840
most people are not the characters they.

725
00:34:53,679 --> 00:35:00,119
Speaker 1: Play, or they're like compensating for something. Yes, like I'm

726
00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:03,719
gonna play the really nice guy Kilan. What was what

727
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,360
role did you play when you were on TV as

728
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:05,800
a child?

729
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 2: I was, uh, well, was my father's son who died

730
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,559
in a house fire?

731
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: Is that like secretly what you want?

732
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 3: Just kidding?

733
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,199
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was gonna be that dark.

734
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,159
Speaker 2: I didn't know if we had brought this up and

735
00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:22,639
that you knew that I was on. It was just

736
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,400
a one episode thing. My dad had a Western TV

737
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,760
show called The magnICON seven, and I went and spent

738
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,639
a day on an episode and I played like his son,

739
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,199
and he's like and then you know my mom in

740
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,239
the show and he's like, remembering back to when we

741
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,599
were alive, and yeah, we ended up the bad guys

742
00:35:40,599 --> 00:35:42,000
burned our house down while we were in it.

743
00:35:43,159 --> 00:35:46,039
Speaker 1: Did you guys talk about that, like when it like, hey,

744
00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:47,800
you're gonna be on my show? Like how old were you?

745
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: Six?

746
00:35:48,639 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna be on my show? But like you're gonna die?

747
00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:54,639
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so. I think it was fine. They

748
00:35:54,679 --> 00:35:57,119
didn't like show me. It was just you know, it

749
00:35:57,199 --> 00:36:00,760
was like a flashback to me. Like riding a horse, like, hey, dad,

750
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,480
what's going on? And then yeah, I forget how they

751
00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:07,079
played out the whole burning the house down thing, but yeah,

752
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:09,239
that was my I've always.

753
00:36:09,079 --> 00:36:12,039
Speaker 3: Wondered how kids don't get traumatized by the stuff that

754
00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:16,119
they have to play. Especially this always bothers me because

755
00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:18,880
I always think about the actor. Anytime you have a

756
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,079
kid playing like an overweight kid that's being made fun of,

757
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,440
I'm just like, how do you separate? How are you?

758
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:26,599
Speaker 1: Like?

759
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 3: No, but don't worry, You're not really fat. Like you're

760
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,119
just playing a kid who's getting bullied for being overweight,

761
00:36:33,159 --> 00:36:35,320
and they're calling you all these horrible names, and your

762
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,360
character is really sad about it, but like in real life,

763
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,119
like you're fine. Like it's got to be so so

764
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,639
hard and so damaging. I feel like if my kid,

765
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,159
I wouldn't want them to play that part, like I

766
00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:51,679
would just you know what I mean?

767
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, for sure. Did any of your kids ever

768
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,760
want to act?

769
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,639
Speaker 3: Not really was in plays when she was young, and

770
00:37:01,639 --> 00:37:04,320
she was really good, but then she kind of lost

771
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:05,960
interest and didn't really care.

772
00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it's also like I

773
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,840
would also imagine it's like really weird to be a

774
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,440
kid and like having to play to have it that

775
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:18,159
you have a different family. Yeah, I think that would

776
00:37:18,199 --> 00:37:20,239
be weird. Did you ever act as a kid?

777
00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:25,679
Speaker 3: No? No, I took acting classes when I was pretty

778
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,119
young and it was awful. I found it traumatizing.

779
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:30,159
Speaker 1: What about it?

780
00:37:31,519 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 3: Well, I feel like I've told this story before, but

781
00:37:34,639 --> 00:37:37,360
I have a weird a walk that we got, like

782
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,400
a sway back and pigeon toed walk and I got

783
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,119
made fun of it like mercilessly as a kid. And

784
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,960
I went to this acting class and everybody had to

785
00:37:46,199 --> 00:37:49,480
walk all around the room and then let all the

786
00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:52,480
other people tell you like what your walk, like, what

787
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:57,400
your image you're projecting or whatever with your walk, like

788
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,039
what that says about you? And I refused to do it.

789
00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:05,480
I was just like nope, nope, not going to do it.

790
00:38:05,519 --> 00:38:08,400
And then I was felt. I was like crying on

791
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,519
the inside, like I have to get out of here.

792
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,760
I want the to be swallowed up. I just don't.

793
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,000
And then I never went back.

794
00:38:16,159 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: That must have been like some weird like method of acting, right,

795
00:38:21,519 --> 00:38:23,920
Like there's all different like techniques, like what did you

796
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:24,840
use in the house fire?

797
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: When I was six? The only thing I remember about.

798
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,480
I remember like, well, Ron Perlman was one of the

799
00:38:36,519 --> 00:38:38,159
cowboys that like picked me up and put me on

800
00:38:38,159 --> 00:38:41,119
a horse, and I remember it kind of hurt, but

801
00:38:41,199 --> 00:38:44,039
I just remember being really hot and loving that I

802
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:46,400
could get free cokes whenever I wanted.

803
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that wasn't see that. Maybe that's how it cancels

804
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,360
out the like you're playing the chubby kid. You're like, well, listen,

805
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,199
I get to go to fucking school for three hours

806
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,760
and get craft services, So fuck all of you.

807
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,679
Speaker 3: I guess, but you'd really have to be able to separate,

808
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,559
you know, totally, especially when you're rehearsing it and the

809
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:09,400
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I've met her before, I've done I did a podcast

852
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convention or something with her.

853
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Speaker 1: But mals, we love malls.

854
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so excited, Molly meclear. Mm hmm yes, she's she's

855
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really fun. She's going to be together with you on

856
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our next episode. So like, for the remainder of this episode,

857
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let's just talk about you.

858
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Speaker 1: I thought we were gonna talk about Molly and I

859
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:15,559
was like, fuck, yeah kidding, Molly and I Actually Molly

860
00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:17,199
and I will talk about this. We actually had the

861
00:42:17,199 --> 00:42:20,679
same pediatrician growing up in back in Massachusetts.

862
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 3: That's so crazy, Like.

863
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,039
Speaker 1: What was he doing just like raising people to be

864
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:30,199
like unhinged podcasters? No, you know, honestly, Okay, where were

865
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,800
you born? I was born in Massachusetts on Cape Cod

866
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,599
and Cape Cod, Massachusetts. My father was a National Park ranger. Wow,

867
00:42:39,519 --> 00:42:40,920
so now he wouldn't have a job.

868
00:42:42,079 --> 00:42:44,639
Speaker 3: So was it was the town like very seasonal? I

869
00:42:44,679 --> 00:42:47,280
guess they're all yours. So you were like, what do

870
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,519
you call it, like a towny? I guess so yeah,

871
00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:51,400
I guess I was a towny. They call it.

872
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,079
Speaker 1: That, I mean sort of, but like we lived we

873
00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:56,000
only lived there for my dad's job, so we lived

874
00:42:56,039 --> 00:42:58,440
almost like in army housing, Like we lived like on

875
00:42:58,559 --> 00:43:00,760
almost like a base kind of like it was all

876
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,079
government people, all people who work for the government. And

877
00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:07,880
then when I was like three, I moved to Saint Croix,

878
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,280
which is in the Virgin Islands.

879
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 3: What yes, I know about you?

880
00:43:12,159 --> 00:43:14,159
Speaker 1: I know. That's some of my lore. It's why I'm

881
00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:15,559
as unhinged as I am.

882
00:43:15,639 --> 00:43:15,679
Speaker 2: So.

883
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I lived so my father got transferred for

884
00:43:18,119 --> 00:43:20,719
work down there, and uh and I lived down We

885
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,320
lived down there for a couple of years. And then

886
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:27,480
a hurricane blew down our house. Yeah, what yes, I know,

887
00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:29,719
I sound like I'm just making things up.

888
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,639
Speaker 3: Were you in I was in it. You were in

889
00:43:31,639 --> 00:43:33,800
the house, I was I blew your house down.

890
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were in the house. We didn't think it

891
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,480
was going to be that bad. It was this famous hurricane.

892
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,360
It was called Hurricane Hugo. It was like one of

893
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,199
the bears. Yeah, it was like one of the biggest

894
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,880
hurricanes to ever happen. And then it actually ended up

895
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,599
coming up to the you know, continental US, but it

896
00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:49,440
destroyed the island of Saint Croix. We didn't think the

897
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,159
hurricane was going to be that bad. So like we

898
00:43:51,159 --> 00:43:53,320
were just like we boarded up the windows. We've done it,

899
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,679
like before, we'd had it happen before where this would

900
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,679
these these would come through and and then we were

901
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,000
in the house. My mom was like you'll relate to this.

902
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:03,639
My mom was like, I think I just heard the

903
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,559
roof come off, and my dad was like, there's no

904
00:44:05,679 --> 00:44:09,880
way that could happen, absolutely not, Like, sure enough the

905
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,000
roof was coming off.

906
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 3: So were you guys? Was there like a basement?

907
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: No, there's no like, no, no one has a basement

908
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,760
in St. Croix, caause it's just like I mean, these

909
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,639
like little stucco houses. And so we went to our

910
00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:24,440
neighbor's house and and we stayed there for a little while,

911
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,079
and then their roof started coming off. So we we

912
00:44:28,119 --> 00:44:30,840
got in a jeep and we put this jeep behind

913
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,840
a tree, and we sat there all night, and we

914
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,119
woke up because we again we lived on like almost

915
00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:37,119
like a little government base that was all just people

916
00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:38,480
who worked for the government.

917
00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:41,079
Speaker 3: If the wind could take the roof off your house,

918
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,199
how did it not just blow your jeep away?

919
00:44:43,519 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: So my dad parked a huge tree had fallen, So

920
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,840
my dad parked the jeep in front of the in

921
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,199
front of the tree, like behind the trees, like where

922
00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:54,039
the wind was coming. And I remember like all the

923
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:58,519
windows smashing in the geep. I know, it was like

924
00:44:58,559 --> 00:45:01,119
so traumatizing, And I woke up the next morning, it

925
00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:02,320
was just everything was flat.

926
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,039
Speaker 3: So you fell asleep in the jeep.

927
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: Eventually, yeah, eventually, and then I woke up and everything

928
00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:11,000
everything was everything we had was gone.

929
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

930
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it was crazy. What I know, the house,

931
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:20,280
you guys do, well, we went in like for like

932
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,280
a week. We lived at a friend's house who like

933
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,840
hadn't their house hadn't blown away. But it was super

934
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:27,280
I mean I was very very lucky, and I acknowledged this,

935
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,159
but like the island was the the like where people

936
00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:33,039
were incarcerated. I don't know if it was a jail

937
00:45:33,079 --> 00:45:37,000
or prison had been had blown down. So there was

938
00:45:37,039 --> 00:45:41,239
like a ton of looting happening on the island, just all.

939
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 3: These convicts just running around.

940
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and like they were just like like you know,

941
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,239
snatch and grab, and they'd gone and stolen rental cars

942
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,159
and machetes. And so my sister and I, my sister,

943
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,079
my mom and I my other sister wasn't born yet.

944
00:45:55,119 --> 00:45:58,679
We were the first civilians off the island. And we

945
00:45:58,679 --> 00:46:00,440
were there for like a week, like we couldn't get

946
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:01,960
off the no one whould get off the island. And

947
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,239
I remember we flew in this little prop plane from

948
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,199
Saint Croix to Puerto Rico, and I can still remember

949
00:46:08,199 --> 00:46:11,400
the pilot saying to my mom, like, listen, I don't

950
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:12,920
know if I have enough fuel to get us to

951
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,440
Puerto Rico. But there's no fuel left on Saint Croix,

952
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,639
so we're just gonna just gonna try. And I remember

953
00:46:18,679 --> 00:46:21,079
being little and being like, I feel like that's a problem,

954
00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:23,480
like even, and I think that's when my anxiety started.

955
00:46:24,199 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you've had some shitty things happened, you know.

956
00:46:29,199 --> 00:46:31,119
Speaker 1: I thought that, like I was all done. I feel

957
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:32,000
like I've seen enough.

958
00:46:32,159 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 3: Your mom had some shitty things happen.

959
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,199
Speaker 1: I know that, poor fucking woman, right, And so then

960
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,440
we went to Puerto Rico and then we eventually got

961
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,880
back to back to Massachusetts, but my dad stayed in

962
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,320
Saint Croix for almost a year and worked to like

963
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,280
rebuild the island.

964
00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:45,079
Speaker 3: Really.

965
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, so my mom was that was like when I

966
00:46:49,159 --> 00:46:51,559
finally that's when she like really started to get cranky,

967
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,440
god lover like she was. I think she was like,

968
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:55,639
this is too fuck.

969
00:46:55,679 --> 00:46:58,039
Speaker 3: It was in Massachusetts by herself.

970
00:46:57,559 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: With me and my younger sister, and yeah, so yeah,

971
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,960
I know that's that's how I landed in Massachusetts with

972
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,880
the same pediatrician as moms's. You have two siblings, I do,

973
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:12,079
and then my other sister was born, like oh yeah, hm, okay, yeah, okay,

974
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:16,679
so you live in Massachusetts. Then when you're kind of

975
00:47:17,039 --> 00:47:19,960
not too old, like middle school, your mom gets diagnosed

976
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,840
with cancer. Yeah. God, I sound like I've had this

977
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,199
really depressing life.

978
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean you're depressing.

979
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,159
Speaker 1: No, that's true. No, And my mom got cancer when

980
00:47:29,199 --> 00:47:31,039
I was in middle school. And that's like when things

981
00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:33,639
like things, you know, I had a very normal like

982
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,760
after Saint Croix, and then once my dad got back,

983
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,519
things felt like a very normal childhood. And then my

984
00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:40,519
mom got cancer, and then I was just like, oh,

985
00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:42,559
I think my life's not going to be normal anymore.

986
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:44,320
Like it was just like I knew like it wasn't

987
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,679
going to be normal anymore. And then my mom was

988
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,039
sick for a long time and like four years, and

989
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:53,519
then she died when I was a junior in high school.

990
00:47:54,039 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 3: And let me ask you this, when you were younger,

991
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:02,000
did your mom present it like I'm gonna be fine,

992
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,679
yes or okay, yeah, she was was it early stage

993
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,360
and that spread or was it our she already knew

994
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:09,679
it was bad, but she.

995
00:48:10,559 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: I think she knew it was really bad. But I

996
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,280
think she was optimistic, and I think she was sort

997
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,519
of like, when the going gets tough, the tough get going,

998
00:48:17,559 --> 00:48:20,239
I'm gonna be fine, Like, don't worry about it, like

999
00:48:20,519 --> 00:48:23,599
you you don't focus on school like all those kind

1000
00:48:23,599 --> 00:48:25,360
of things. I think she wanted our lives to be

1001
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,639
as normal as possible, but they just like weren't anymore,

1002
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,239
and it was impossible to like have it not be.

1003
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,519
But I think, like I would say, after maybe like

1004
00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:39,239
a year of her being sick, like I was like, oh,

1005
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,960
I don't think she like I started to figure out

1006
00:48:41,039 --> 00:48:43,360
she's not getting better, mostly cause I was like going

1007
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,239
through her email. Oh really, Yeah.

1008
00:48:47,039 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 3: You started going through her email?

1009
00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: Yes?

1010
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 3: And what was she saying in her email that like

1011
00:48:51,519 --> 00:48:52,519
tipped you off.

1012
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,199
Speaker 1: That she had like less than six months to live?

1013
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,039
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I know why were you going through

1014
00:49:01,039 --> 00:49:02,559
her email? Were you suspicious?

1015
00:49:02,679 --> 00:49:05,039
Speaker 1: Yea, something was going on, yes, because like no one

1016
00:49:05,159 --> 00:49:07,599
was really telling me anything, but like I could, like

1017
00:49:07,639 --> 00:49:10,199
the adults would have conversations in the other room, and

1018
00:49:10,639 --> 00:49:12,360
I don't know, like I don't know if your oldest

1019
00:49:12,599 --> 00:49:14,280
is like this too, But like I wanted to be

1020
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,519
in on all the things that were happening, like always

1021
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:18,360
with the adults, Like I felt like I was an

1022
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,320
extension of the adults as the oldest.

1023
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:26,639
Speaker 3: Interesting. No, my kids are weirdly sort of disconnect, like

1024
00:49:26,679 --> 00:49:27,239
they don't care.

1025
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: They don't. I wonder though, if I cared because there

1026
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,559
was such a scary thing happening.

1027
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 3: Probably I think maybe the security of like everything's like

1028
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,599
pretty always pretty normal in our house. Like my kids

1029
00:49:38,639 --> 00:49:41,679
never they never get Like I remember evesdropping on my

1030
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,480
mother once talking to one of her friends when she

1031
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,199
was like first on chemo, and I remember her saying

1032
00:49:47,199 --> 00:49:50,400
to her friend like, yeah, well she said, like you know,

1033
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,239
did the doctor tell you anything you can or can't do?

1034
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,280
And she's like, well, I can't have sex for the

1035
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,760
next six months. And I remember I was probably like

1036
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,360
an eighth grade and I remember thinking like, oh, like my.

1037
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,679
Speaker 1: Parents have sex. They've had sex three times, so they

1038
00:50:03,679 --> 00:50:06,760
could have three children, Like I really like that's like

1039
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,679
how young I was, Like I didn't think adults had sex, right,

1040
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,119
even though my parents had like a really nice marriage

1041
00:50:12,159 --> 00:50:14,480
and they would like go away on vacations together. Like

1042
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:17,280
I was just like they're like two friends who hang

1043
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,400
out and just happened just to have had a couple

1044
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,400
of kids.

1045
00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:24,119
Speaker 3: That's funny. Well, that's probably like a sweet thing to

1046
00:50:24,159 --> 00:50:26,719
think that. Yeah, you think of your parents as friends.

1047
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that is sweet. Yeah, that is a

1048
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,760
nice thing to think. But I just couldn't. I remember

1049
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,320
one time my mom telling me, like we were looking

1050
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,960
at a magazine that had Jessica Simpson on the cover,

1051
00:50:36,039 --> 00:50:38,000
and it was like, why I'm staying a virgin? Remember

1052
00:50:38,039 --> 00:50:39,719
that was like her whole thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And

1053
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,480
my mom was like, oh, they all say this, but

1054
00:50:41,519 --> 00:50:44,519
they all give blowjobs. And I remember being like, she

1055
00:50:44,679 --> 00:50:46,599
thinks she knows what a blowjob is.

1056
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 3: That's like so cute.

1057
00:50:49,559 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 1: She has no idea what she just said.

1058
00:50:51,639 --> 00:50:54,119
Speaker 3: Oh my god. So yeah, so that's kind of like

1059
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,519
how so when weird found out that she had six

1060
00:50:57,559 --> 00:51:00,039
months to live, did you were you? Were you like like,

1061
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:01,320
oh my god, now I have to keep this a

1062
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,800
secret that I know it because my mom's acting like

1063
00:51:04,159 --> 00:51:06,800
that's not a thing. Yes, that must have been really hard.

1064
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: It was hard. I know it was really hard. I

1065
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,840
give like little Meredith a lot of credit, or like

1066
00:51:12,159 --> 00:51:13,760
teenage Mereth a lot of credit.

1067
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 3: And you probably couldn't talk to your dad about it either.

1068
00:51:16,519 --> 00:51:18,800
Then it would come out that you spied on her email.

1069
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so if you're going through something, tell your kids,

1070
00:51:24,519 --> 00:51:25,960
talk to your kids.

1071
00:51:25,559 --> 00:51:28,679
Speaker 3: Better, it's better. So then so then when your mom

1072
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,639
passed away, when it was getting close, when she knew,

1073
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,440
did she talk to you about it then or now?

1074
00:51:33,559 --> 00:51:36,119
She so she stayed in She left you in the

1075
00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:36,760
dark until the.

1076
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 1: Very completely in the Like I mean, I knew she

1077
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,719
was getting a lot sicker, and like I think she

1078
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,079
was having conversations with other people, but not with us. So,

1079
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,239
like when my mom actually died, she was in the

1080
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,840
hospital because she was just supposed to get more chemo,

1081
00:51:55,199 --> 00:51:57,920
and so they were like, oh, your counts are really low,

1082
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,280
and that was like a big stressor like is that

1083
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,960
we like couldn't get sick at home because like then

1084
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,639
my mom like wouldn't be able to get her treatment.

1085
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,559
So we all had to stay like really healthy, which

1086
00:52:07,559 --> 00:52:09,639
is like really hard when you have like three kids

1087
00:52:09,639 --> 00:52:10,559
in school all the time.

1088
00:52:10,639 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1089
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 1: Right, So they were like, don't go home because you

1090
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,280
might get sick, you know, like you know, I get

1091
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,119
a cold or whatever, and your counsel go down. So

1092
00:52:18,159 --> 00:52:20,039
they were like, let's just keep you here to get

1093
00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:22,320
you better and pump you up with fluids and not

1094
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,880
have like see the kids whatever, And then like that

1095
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,840
turned into a week and then after like two weeks,

1096
00:52:28,639 --> 00:52:32,960
I was like, is mom like coming home? My dad

1097
00:52:33,039 --> 00:52:35,000
was like, ah, I don't know. And then they're like,

1098
00:52:35,039 --> 00:52:37,000
you know. About a week later, he was like, you know,

1099
00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:39,719
she's not. She's just not going to come home, and

1100
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,360
I was like, well, where the fuck is she gonna go.

1101
00:52:42,199 --> 00:52:44,639
That's when I like realized like, oh, she's like never

1102
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,480
coming home. Oh gosh, I know that was a rough

1103
00:52:48,599 --> 00:52:49,480
night at the lunch house.

1104
00:52:49,519 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 3: Your mom didn't do any like like hey, say goodbye,

1105
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,199
Like it was there's no terms of endearment, like.

1106
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: No, because like what I did get to go and

1107
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,519
I went to I got to go and see her

1108
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:07,239
of like several times, but I only saw her once

1109
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,199
when I knew she was dying, and she was like

1110
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:14,360
completely I feel like I've talked to you about this before,

1111
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,000
like probably in writing, Like she was completely in the

1112
00:53:17,039 --> 00:53:21,119
place of like I'm coming home next week, so like

1113
00:53:21,199 --> 00:53:22,960
I don't want to come home to a mess. I

1114
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,239
want the house to be picked up, and so I

1115
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,400
just rolled with it. I was like, this is you know,

1116
00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:30,679
like she wants to be my mom till the bitter end.

1117
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,800
She gets to be my mom till the bitter end.

1118
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,960
And part of me wonders if that's what she wanted.

1119
00:53:35,559 --> 00:53:38,320
And then like two days later, they were like she's

1120
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,840
really gone at this point, like she couldn't she wouldn't communicate,

1121
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,239
and they were like, you can go in and see her,

1122
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,159
but she might not recognize you. And so I decided

1123
00:53:46,159 --> 00:53:50,119
not to go in. And I've always like wondered if

1124
00:53:50,119 --> 00:53:52,440
that was the right choice, you know, like to not

1125
00:53:52,519 --> 00:53:56,639
go in that last time. But I just was working

1126
00:53:56,679 --> 00:53:58,639
with all the information that I had, and I think

1127
00:53:58,679 --> 00:54:00,239
there was part of me that was like, she's not

1128
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,000
actually going to die, like you know what I mean, Like.

1129
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 3: She's not coarse. The denial was going on for so

1130
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,519
long that you're supposed to suddenly just like process all that.

1131
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I was like I'm not I'm not

1132
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,280
going to go in. And my sisters went in, and

1133
00:54:14,599 --> 00:54:16,719
I've talked to them before about like, hey, like, you know,

1134
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,199
do you think it was the They were like, oh, honestly,

1135
00:54:19,199 --> 00:54:21,559
I wish I hadn't gone in because I just didn't

1136
00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:23,119
want to see her and have her not know who

1137
00:54:23,559 --> 00:54:23,920
I was.

1138
00:54:24,159 --> 00:54:26,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, you remember her the way that do you remember

1139
00:54:26,599 --> 00:54:28,559
her still talking to you and still being your mom?

1140
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: Right? So yeah, Like sometimes I like worry, like I

1141
00:54:33,519 --> 00:54:35,440
keep cry thinking about it. But I'm like, did she

1142
00:54:35,639 --> 00:54:39,159
like like she like, where's my other kid? And like

1143
00:54:39,199 --> 00:54:41,079
she didn't see me. But at the end of the day,

1144
00:54:41,199 --> 00:54:43,639
like I was so young and I was like working

1145
00:54:43,679 --> 00:54:47,519
with the information that I had and I don't know,

1146
00:54:47,559 --> 00:54:49,239
I think, like it's like lose lose at the end

1147
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,000
of the day, and I really didn't think and then

1148
00:54:51,039 --> 00:54:53,599
she she died like the next day. So it's like,

1149
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:55,760
you know, what do you do? Right?

1150
00:54:57,519 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 3: I think that you did every thing that you could.

1151
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:05,360
Thank you, And I mean that's an impossible choice, yeah,

1152
00:55:05,519 --> 00:55:08,760
given it is. Yeah, I think whatever decision you made

1153
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,599
was the right decision for you at that time, totally.

1154
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:16,079
Speaker 1: And so yeah, and so that's that's uh, that's how

1155
00:55:16,119 --> 00:55:17,199
I became who I am.

1156
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:22,599
Speaker 3: I mean, listen it. I'm sure that trauma like does

1157
00:55:22,679 --> 00:55:26,719
inform your personality. It probably makes you more empathetic. I

1158
00:55:27,159 --> 00:55:30,559
will just say that Meredith took my writing class, and

1159
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,599
I was blown away from the first thing she ever

1160
00:55:33,679 --> 00:55:37,599
read because you have such a realistic approach about you know,

1161
00:55:37,639 --> 00:55:40,199
you have that view of being a kid and everything

1162
00:55:40,199 --> 00:55:42,599
that you went through with your mom, and you don't

1163
00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:47,440
try to sugarcoat it and go like, you know, the

1164
00:55:47,519 --> 00:55:50,239
things that you say about it, it's not all like,

1165
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,960
oh my god, my mom was just amazing, and you know,

1166
00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:56,719
you talk about the actual, real experience. I really want

1167
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:57,559
you to write a book.

1168
00:55:57,639 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: I will that, I will that.

1169
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 3: You tell me about like what's going on with like

1170
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:04,400
everything that you're doing.

1171
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I quit my full time job. So

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the Patreon is now seven dollars. But no, you know,

1173
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I've got a lot of different like irons in the

1174
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,159
fire right now. I recently signed with a literary agent

1175
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,639
to write a pop culture focused book and then hopefully

1176
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,079
write the memoir. I'm graduating from grad school with my

1177
00:56:22,199 --> 00:56:26,280
MFA and May, so that's super exciting. And then you know,

1178
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I'm doing stand up working at it. It's not fucking easy,

1179
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as as w T would tell you.

1180
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Speaker 3: That's amazing. Thank you.

1181
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: You have a gig coming up though, right I have

1182
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,360
a big show coming up on May eighth and LA

1183
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,719
a live show with Molly Maclear. Oh yeah, yeah, and

1184
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,840
we would you know, love to love to see the

1185
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,360
f colers out there. And then I have two dates

1186
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,360
in Boston May June twenty fifth and twenty six I'll

1187
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,079
be in Boston doing the same show with Molly and

1188
00:56:56,119 --> 00:56:58,960
our friend Rob from the vander pump Robs Banner Pump

1189
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,800
Robs podcast. So yeah, there's like a lot of good

1190
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,639
stuff going on, and I'm excited for the next chapter.

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Speaker 3: And your podcast.

1192
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Speaker 1: Oddly specific, Yeah, we have some We had really great

1193
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,199
We had blakely Thornton recently who came on and talked

1194
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,199
about Kimberlino Weil as I like to call her ak

1195
00:57:14,599 --> 00:57:17,960
Kim Kardashian, my favorite criminal justice cous player because she

1196
00:57:18,119 --> 00:57:20,719
like occasionally likes to pretend she cares about people in prison.

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00:57:21,639 --> 00:57:23,199
And we did a whole thing on that. So yeah,

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there's a lot of there's a lot of good stuff happening.

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Speaker 3: I am so happy for you, and I'm so happy

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that you're also going to be here on Friday. You

1201
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,320
have malls with us. But before we go, let me

1202
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,400
say hi to our people that I didn't say hi

1203
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:39,679
to before We got a dick frolicking Kelly Latti do

1204
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:44,079
Katie's rolling on e Nikki, call your girls, Elizabeth Williamson,

1205
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,800
keep having those kids. Go on with your bad self.

1206
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,880
Rita is going to rock them in her bassiete. Polly,

1207
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,519
we love your pancakes. Valerie hits out of the park, Katerina,

1208
00:57:52,639 --> 00:57:56,000
check your moeler. Gabby and Missy Come on, guys, you're

1209
00:57:56,039 --> 00:57:58,960
probably out with Lynette in Florida right now? Is Shan

1210
00:57:59,039 --> 00:58:03,039
vashpe Rebecca A little Bit is so cute? Kelly Brandt,

1211
00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:06,159
She'll take you to planned parenthood, Alisha Escalante, Leslie, stop

1212
00:58:06,199 --> 00:58:09,639
with the coughing. Aaron's a dirty Sanchez, Jennifer, get up, Sandra,

1213
00:58:09,679 --> 00:58:12,559
it's not easy being green. Athena. We love your dancing.

1214
00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:17,440
Stephanie's a stinker wrinker. Also, Christa Stroop is giving her

1215
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,519
shout out for her friend Sarah, who lost her son

1216
00:58:21,639 --> 00:58:24,599
Chase at only twenty one. He was three months from

1217
00:58:24,639 --> 00:58:28,400
graduating college when they lost him to suicide, and she's

1218
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,039
trying to break the stigma surrounding suicide and help fill

1219
00:58:31,039 --> 00:58:33,039
in the gaps in her community in Ohio. So go

1220
00:58:33,079 --> 00:58:37,960
to Chase hayleyproject dot com. Also, our friend Laurie Bishop

1221
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,440
is helping her son with his bit Biz. It's the

1222
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,760
Better Test Prep act Guide. It's a self paced act

1223
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,559
prep guide. Go check it out. Go to Better Dot

1224
00:58:48,639 --> 00:58:54,119
Test dot Prep all lowercase on Instagram. Also, friend of

1225
00:58:54,159 --> 00:58:56,320
my friend and a friend of our show has a

1226
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:02,119
Medium account and it's called Unbecoming and she writes amazing

1227
00:59:02,199 --> 00:59:07,320
stuff about like her terrible, terrible marriage that is no longer.

1228
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,079
So check that out Unbecoming Stories. The Family Skeptical is

1229
00:59:11,079 --> 00:59:15,119
a podcast about raising kids with no religion. Check them out.

1230
00:59:15,159 --> 00:59:18,239
They have an episode every three weeks, The Family Skeptical.

1231
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,639
If you're in Palm Springs or Palm Desert, check out

1232
00:59:20,679 --> 00:59:24,199
Wilma and Frieda and get you some salmon or some

1233
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:28,760
delicious chicken wings and say you're a listener of fcol

1234
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,480
If you want to get a mouse pad or a

1235
00:59:31,519 --> 00:59:34,039
fun T shirt or a hat or whatever, go to

1236
00:59:34,119 --> 00:59:36,440
Basic Becky. Why not use somebody who's a friend of

1237
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,480
the show, Go to just Basicbecky dot com or find

1238
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,199
her on Facebook at Basic Becky. If you're in Hawaii

1239
00:59:43,199 --> 00:59:45,239
and you're on the island of Kawahi, go to Sugar

1240
00:59:45,239 --> 00:59:49,320
Skull Okay. If you're vacationing, check them out or follow

1241
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,159
their Instagram page at sugar Skull eight oh eight. Also,

1242
00:59:53,159 --> 00:59:55,239
if you want to book a trip, why not use

1243
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,039
Christine Black with Waves and Wonder Travel on Facebook. She's

1244
00:59:59,119 --> 01:00:03,800
Christine Sierra's travel planner or her Instagram is travel with

1245
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:08,960
Christine b All. Our friend Sergio is highlighting the ASPCA,

1246
01:00:09,159 --> 01:00:11,840
you know what they do. And our friend Jacob Crowley

1247
01:00:12,039 --> 01:00:16,719
is showcasing the Human Rights Campaign HRC. Check them out.

1248
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,079
We need them right now. Guys are countries in the shitter,

1249
01:00:20,519 --> 01:00:24,880
so Human Rights Campaign is helping people and I'm just

1250
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:29,679
gonna do Also our friend Adam Lerner. Adam's got a car,

1251
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,960
you know what he does. He's a car broker. And

1252
01:00:32,079 --> 01:00:36,199
also our friend Laura Wingfield is promoting her friend OSCARS.

1253
01:00:37,079 --> 01:00:40,280
This is a great thing. It's called the Queer Youth

1254
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:44,039
Resource in Vancouver, Washington. They need our help because of

1255
01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:48,119
the current administration is cutting off funds. So go to

1256
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:57,480
qy RC Vancouverwa dot org. Okay, thanks everybody, Thank you Meredith.

1257
01:00:57,599 --> 01:01:00,280
We'll see everybody on Friday. Thank you. Kaylin, you're hear.

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Speaker 1: It now, don't fucking up. It's let angle