Speaker 1: And now we have basketball, and some of it was
Speaker 1: better with other basketb oh Man, you want to lead
Speaker 1: off with that?
Speaker 2: Should we lead off with that?
Speaker 1: Sixteen years in a row?
Speaker 2: I mean we can.
Speaker 3: I kind of already did it. I'm already I'm still
Speaker 3: sad about it. I've also been waiting since Saturday night
Speaker 3: to say that. So, yeah, it was bad, Landon, I
Speaker 3: feel like that.
Speaker 1: Reading the group text, Cam and I were both angry
Speaker 1: about Kansas losing for the sixteenth consecutive time to Kansas State. Landon,
Speaker 1: you are twenty four years old, so that would make
Speaker 1: you a solid third grader. The last time Kansas beat
Speaker 1: Kansas State and football, you just seemed more accepting at
Speaker 1: the back, like you just know.
Speaker 2: I was wildly dejected. Actually after really it got me.
Speaker 3: What flavor of kran were you eating on the last
Speaker 3: time that Kansas beat Kansas State?
Speaker 2: And I was a forest green guy? Myself didn't help.
Speaker 2: I tried it. I tried to go back to it
Speaker 2: for luck, like one of those you know, like ritual things,
Speaker 2: superstitions didn't work, didn't work.
Speaker 1: How many times I would grab the forest green crayon
Speaker 1: because it looked like it was just a normal green
Speaker 1: crayon the colored trees or something, and it was so
Speaker 1: much lighter than I wanted it to be, and it
Speaker 1: was just disappointing. It's kind of like that blue crayon
Speaker 1: that wasn't actually blue. It was like indigo, but it
Speaker 1: looked like it was supposed to be blue. Just me,
Speaker 1: just homeschool problems.
Speaker 2: Anybody only homeschoolers used crayons. Well, it's better if you
Speaker 2: didn't eat them. I probably ate a few in my prime.
Speaker 1: But yeah, well that's the So eating a crayon would
Speaker 1: be the equivalence of the Zach Clements experience through two
Speaker 1: exhibition games, which we will talk.
Speaker 2: All about a person. I don't mean to put on blast.
Speaker 2: I've only met this person once and he was very nice.
Speaker 2: We got along great. But the a friend of mine,
Speaker 2: her brother apparently eats Plato, or at least has for Like, wow, really.
Speaker 1: What age are we talking about? A four year old?
Speaker 2: Eighteen or like twenty or something like on a rat trip.
Speaker 2: He just had something. She was she okay, like that's
Speaker 2: that's a thing. Apparently he was fine when he ate it.
Speaker 2: Really devastating stuff though, was upsetting to learn.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm actually speechless I remember eating Plato as
Speaker 1: a like a like a four year old and then
Speaker 1: being told you don't eat plato. I now, one thing
Speaker 1: that's not true is any parent that told their kids
Speaker 1: like it's really bad for you. That's really not true either.
Speaker 1: It's just flour and salt like it's fine. The problem
Speaker 1: I think was you're touching Plato that a bunch of
Speaker 1: other very sick kids have touched at one point, but
Speaker 1: like just picking it out of the containers and eating it.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think that would do any harm to you,
Speaker 1: aside from the moral harm of everybody thinking you are
Speaker 1: from Mars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and doing it as as a grown person on
Speaker 2: purpose with that intent is really something to me.
Speaker 1: Well, whether you eat Plato or whether you eat crayons
Speaker 1: or anything. Get ready for a fun season of Kansas basketball.
Speaker 1: We're gonna see are they more like the team against
Speaker 1: Arkansas or are they more like the team against Washburn.
Speaker 1: Can't believe that those two games went the way they did.
Speaker 1: We're gonna recap the exhibitions and get you ready for
Speaker 1: the real games, which do not start until one day
Speaker 1: before the election. So our first ASCARCB, who are you
Speaker 1: guys voting for? In this uncoming. Oh huh, that's pretty good, Landon,
Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and give it to you. This is
Speaker 1: Inside the Paint Podcast.
Speaker 2: I'm Riaan Landris, I'm Landing Fields, and I'm Bill self
Speaker 2: here to remind you the one pill can kill.
Speaker 1: That is true. I lets it's from It's on the radio, sir,
Speaker 1: it is. It's Brian freaking Haney saying, and now an
Speaker 1: important message from our coaches wives. And it's the two.
Speaker 1: It's Cindy self and Kelly. Why aren't our lousy ass
Speaker 1: fans in the stand live bol telling you that you
Speaker 1: need to not share.
Speaker 2: Because and so is your husband.
Speaker 3: I kind of think Lance Leipold is on opiates at
Speaker 3: least for this part of the season because they're two.
Speaker 1: It would six, It would explain, it would it would
Speaker 1: explain he chugs them in the fourth quarter of every game.
Speaker 1: I think we might need to update this drop. Instead
Speaker 1: of Bill as his head ups ass so much, Hi, Nick,
Speaker 1: it could now be uh, lance Leipold.
Speaker 2: As his head ups ass so much.
Speaker 1: There now we could just have them both play side
Speaker 1: by side in case we need it, because he yes,
Speaker 1: But did you guys know before we talk about the basketball,
Speaker 1: if games in the UH in college football were three
Speaker 1: quarters long, Kansas would be seven and one in a
Speaker 1: top the Big twelve, correct, but there aren't no they that.
Speaker 1: That is five in case you're counting at home, five
Speaker 1: one for each fart noise that you're about to hear
Speaker 1: you there, that's the five times that they have lost
Speaker 1: after leading after three quarters.
Speaker 2: It is and that's what makes this the most painful
Speaker 2: Kansas football season that I've ever witnessed, because not only
Speaker 2: A did they come into the season with any amount
Speaker 2: of expectations and blue those they've they genuinely I still
Speaker 2: don't think are like that bad of a team. No,
Speaker 2: they all know they're two and six, like they're not good,
Speaker 2: but like they should be at least like a four
Speaker 2: or five or six win team, and they're not. And
Speaker 2: it sucks. It sucks that they're not even bad and
Speaker 2: they're still bad.
Speaker 1: They were like seven or eight expected points better than
Speaker 1: Kansas State in that game and lost by two. That's
Speaker 1: like the story of their season. So if you had
Speaker 1: to bet, does the streak to Kansas State end in
Speaker 1: the twenty twenties got to your head? You have to
Speaker 1: predict it otherwise it goes off at New Year's Day
Speaker 1: twenty thirty. What are you saying.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's not a terrible fate seeing the track
Speaker 3: run in this world here, But I'm gonna go with
Speaker 3: seeing that they're losing most of the roster and then
Speaker 3: coming back next year with not a lot of hope.
Speaker 2: I think hesitly. I say yes in the twenty twenties
Speaker 2: because at some point you have to think it ends.
Speaker 2: But at the same time we have no reason to
Speaker 2: truly believe that. But I'll say yes twenty twenties. So
Speaker 2: what you got it?
Speaker 1: You got five chances, right, twenty five, six, seven, eight,
Speaker 1: and nine, you got five more chances. Yeah, the odds
Speaker 1: say yeah, I would think like it happened next year.
Speaker 1: I agree, But but at some point they happened.
Speaker 2: To it could?
Speaker 1: It could?
Speaker 3: Could Lance Lighthold coach the Golden Globetrotters to a win.
Speaker 1: The Golden Globe Trotter Globe Trotters, that's a sound bite
Speaker 1: that you gotta I think he probably could. Like if
Speaker 1: the team existence Globe Trotters, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Lance Lighthold coached k State, what would happen? I think
Speaker 2: they'd be worse. I think it's there's no doubt it
Speaker 2: would happen in the k State KU game. Would Lance
Speaker 2: Lightpold be the dominant force there or would Kase State
Speaker 2: continue the dominance?
Speaker 1: Oh man, And the thing with Lance is not to
Speaker 1: turn this into the Lance light Bulb show, but landon
Speaker 1: you and I for years as Kansas, like three years ago,
Speaker 1: beat Texas and then they were right in there with
Speaker 1: teams as a twenty point underdog, and it was apparent
Speaker 1: they get to the fourth quarter and just do unbelievably
Speaker 1: stupid stuff like punting at the thirty eight yard line
Speaker 1: or back to back timeouts triggering penalties. I'll never forget that,
Speaker 1: or the kicker can't make anything, and yet they keep
Speaker 1: kicking field goals despite the fact that they're a twenty
Speaker 1: point underdog on the road. And I think that our
Speaker 1: fear was Lance is going to get this program to
Speaker 1: where it has expectations and talent. But when they get
Speaker 1: there and the expectation is to win, and you are
Speaker 1: routinely in close games because your roster is everybody as
Speaker 1: good as other team in your conference, will you get
Speaker 1: out coached in those moments and five blown fourth quarter
Speaker 1: leads later? I think that at this point and Lance
Speaker 1: people are like, well, Lance is only in his fourth
Speaker 1: year or whatever. The man's been a head coach at
Speaker 1: a lot of levels. He's been coaching far too long
Speaker 1: for these clock management screw ups and all these.
Speaker 2: He's a six time national champion in Division three. He
Speaker 2: can't be an idiot and do.
Speaker 1: That right, And we don't think he is an idiot,
Speaker 1: but it is maddening, as I mean, the professional football
Speaker 1: team at least that I root for has Andy Reid
Speaker 1: at the Controls, who was thought to be one of
Speaker 1: the most continuously maddening coaches in the history of sports,
Speaker 1: and now is root is absolutely undoubtedly considered the best.
Speaker 1: So it can change if you get the right players quickly.
Speaker 1: And I think Lance is very, very good and he
Speaker 1: is undoubtedly the best coach that Kansas football has had
Speaker 1: in Are you gonna say he's better than Mangino. I
Speaker 1: think he's better than Mangino probably, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. Mangino won an Orange Bowl
Speaker 2: with Camas. Kansas was a loss to Missouri away from
Speaker 2: playing for the Natty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Kansas want to guaranteed rate bull I mean,
Speaker 3: that's the epitome of against the UNLV team that like
Speaker 3: sixty percent of their team didn't play. That is true,
Speaker 3: that did happen, and.
Speaker 1: They would have beat Arkansas except for the fact that
Speaker 1: said coaching decision decided to have the backup quarterback go
Speaker 1: out there with the most important play of the whole night.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about it right into the hot
Speaker 1: Dogs stand. That's why this drop exists on the show.
Speaker 1: There goes the ball in the row three of the crowd.
Speaker 1: What you're a future Heisman winner. He wasn't playing, no
Speaker 1: fear by the time he's a senior. I bet he's
Speaker 1: going to kick all of the buns whenever it comes
Speaker 1: to college football. Right landon, Jayalen Daniels for Heisman? How's
Speaker 1: that going this year? Let me just pull up this badly?
Speaker 2: It's going very bad, all right.
Speaker 1: I went into I went into Raising Kanes the other
Speaker 1: day and there's Jalen Daniels holding a box at chicken
Speaker 1: tender in a cardboard cutout, not actually him, and it's
Speaker 1: like the official chicken tender. He did not throw them
Speaker 1: to the opposition.
Speaker 2: I went into the Overland Park Canes the other day
Speaker 2: and the first thing I said when I went in
Speaker 2: there and saw that cardboard cutout of Jalen Daniels. Was
Speaker 2: that guy blows all right?
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a good good notes to turn
Speaker 1: the page and talk about how well the Arkansas game.
Speaker 1: That game blows all right. So there's two exhibition games here.
Speaker 1: I know, whenever we get into the regular season, we'll
Speaker 1: read scores, we'll do stats like there really isn't a
Speaker 1: whole lot of stat analyzing to do an exhibition games
Speaker 1: where you had an incomplete roster. They don't count, the
Speaker 1: score doesn't really matter. But Kansas goes out there and
Speaker 1: just gets blown out of Bud Walton Arena. They lose
Speaker 1: by sixteen to Arkansas and get eighty five points hung
Speaker 1: on him, and then they predictably come home and just
Speaker 1: obliterate poor Washburn. They're up by already some points before
Speaker 1: putting in the walk ons. So you got two games
Speaker 1: to recap. I'll let you guys decide do you want
Speaker 1: to start with the bad or the good? Just give
Speaker 1: me some takeaways. You watched eighty minutes or well eighty
Speaker 1: minutes worth of Kansas basketball via highlights. What were your
Speaker 1: takeaways from the exhibitions.
Speaker 2: My takeaways mainly were that Kansas played a very athletic
Speaker 2: team on the road in a hostile environment without their
Speaker 2: best offensive player in their first game together as a team,
Speaker 2: and didn't look very good. And then they came and
Speaker 2: played a team that they were so much more talented
Speaker 2: than in their second game with one of their better
Speaker 2: players back, and they looked much better. And I think
Speaker 2: that might actually be all you can actually take away
Speaker 2: from the games, genuinely is that Arkansas is just pretty
Speaker 2: good and it was the first time these guys have
Speaker 2: ever actually played fully together, and boy, could you tell.
Speaker 2: And then Washburn is just not very good in Kansas
Speaker 2: ran them off the floor. We'll get into a lot
Speaker 2: more than that, but I think that's my general takeaway.
Speaker 3: Cam Yeah, I mean that's pretty much the spark nose
Speaker 3: version of it. I wouldn't read too much into the
Speaker 3: Arkansas game actually, really either of the games. It's so early,
Speaker 3: and like Lannon said, no Hunter Dickinson, the guys have
Speaker 3: not played together in a formal setting. Also, interestingly enough,
Speaker 3: Dawan Harris led the way with twenty six points right
Speaker 3: after I ripped on him on the opening show of
Speaker 3: the season.
Speaker 2: So that makes me feel really good.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean, it really it's a tough environment
Speaker 3: to go to. It's an early season John Caliperry team,
Speaker 3: which we all know tend to look better than the
Speaker 3: late season John Caliperry teams, and I wouldn't read too
Speaker 3: much into the Arkansas game tonight. They look way better,
Speaker 3: but they also were playing a Division two school, So
Speaker 3: that's pretty much what I would take away from it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess we can kind of put this into
Speaker 1: two different categories. The players that we didn't really learn
Speaker 1: anything from slash didn't need to, and the ones that
Speaker 1: we did. The main team takeaway that I had, and
Speaker 1: this is fresh on everybody's minds after watching the three
Speaker 1: point broads against Washburn. So last year, in eighteen conference
Speaker 1: games plus a Big Twelve tournament game, plus two NCAA
Speaker 1: Tournament games their last twenty one basketball games, Kansas made
Speaker 1: more threes than their opponents once one time in the
Speaker 1: final twenty one games did they make more three point
Speaker 1: baskets than their opponent. Even with the atrocity that was
Speaker 1: the Arkansas performance, they still made one more three than
Speaker 1: the Razorbacks. And then obviously they just put it on Washburn.
Speaker 1: They made fifteen threes. That was the biggest weakness on
Speaker 1: the team last year. It was our biggest weakness coming
Speaker 1: into this season. Would they get enough three point shooting,
Speaker 1: would be balanced enough. Through two games, they've outscored their
Speaker 1: opponents from behind the three point line. I think as
Speaker 1: long as they continue to do that more often than
Speaker 1: they don't. They're not gonna do it every game because
Speaker 1: they have to play at BYU, so there's at least
Speaker 1: one that they won't. But as long as they can
Speaker 1: do that more often than last year, I think that's
Speaker 1: going to give you such a better chance of not
Speaker 1: being able to put together wins. Whenever you can't make threes,
Speaker 1: you're not putting together a four or five game winning
Speaker 1: streak in this conference. Now that they can shoot the
Speaker 1: ball better, I think you're gonna see that be a
Speaker 1: little bit easier for them. And in this particular game
Speaker 1: to want Harris against Washburn only four points and twenty
Speaker 1: one minutes after scoring twenty six in a game where
Speaker 1: Kansas was missing several premier players. Against Arkansas, we didn't
Speaker 1: really learn anything from Dewan Harris. We expect his stats
Speaker 1: I think a little bit to tick upwards this year.
Speaker 1: He's in the last year of a five year career.
Speaker 1: I gotta think that the arrow points up on the
Speaker 1: stats a little bit, but he's primarily going to be
Speaker 1: the facilitator of the offense. Let's talk about the backup
Speaker 1: point guards though, because Kansas has a few different guys.
Speaker 1: Cam you said at the beginning of the first show
Speaker 1: that David Kuoite you thought was a potential difference maker
Speaker 1: for this team, and looking at the two box scorers,
Speaker 1: I think that you're off to a right start. Quoit
Speaker 1: didn't score zero for five against Arkansas and Kansas looked awful,
Speaker 1: and then against Washburn he goes out and makes five
Speaker 1: to three shoots a lot early and scores nineteen points.
Speaker 1: Are you expecting him? With Zeke Mayo, who he saw
Speaker 1: not play very well against Arkansas and then makes it
Speaker 1: threes against Washburn, Rick Heath Passmore has played well and
Speaker 1: Shack Moore who didn't play in either of the games
Speaker 1: because of an injury. Dwan Harris has some help this year,
Speaker 1: and these guys can score. I gotta think that that
Speaker 1: gives you more hope than you had last year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean absolutely, it's nice to have options. I
Speaker 3: also think the big thing to remember with David Coy
Speaker 3: is he is really small. I mean he's five foot eight.
Speaker 3: They listen is five foot eleven. He's five foot eight.
Speaker 3: So tonight, playing against Washburn, he's gonna look like prime
Speaker 3: Wilt Chamberlain. I mean he's about the same size as
Speaker 3: everyone else on the floor. But what I do like
Speaker 3: about him he plays with a lot of confidence. He's
Speaker 3: not scared. He has a lot of experience. He was
Speaker 3: a standout at Northern Illinois, and I really do think
Speaker 3: that that gives us hope this year. And it'll be
Speaker 3: fun to watch because you don't have to worry about
Speaker 3: if Kevin mccoller is not playing, if Johnny Furfy's not
Speaker 3: shooting well, we Kansas won't have any three points scoring
Speaker 3: and that's not the case this year. So yeah, it's
Speaker 3: definitely a comforting feeling for sure.
Speaker 1: So Lennon and I want to ask you about aj Store,
Speaker 1: who was Kansas's highest crowd our most touted transfer from
Speaker 1: over the summer. They're paying him a good chunk in
Speaker 1: IL money to not go to the draft and play
Speaker 1: presumably one year at Kansas, and he opened up the
Speaker 1: Arkansas game with an emphatic dunk and screamed in someone's
Speaker 1: face and I'm like, Wow, here comes this dude. Then
Speaker 1: only made three of his final ten shots, scored eight
Speaker 1: points against Arkansas, and then scores eight Morgan's washburn eighty
Speaker 1: percent free throw shooter from a year ago that was
Speaker 1: just three for six in the wash spring game, So
Speaker 1: still working out some of the early season yips. This
Speaker 1: is a guy that I think a lot of us.
Speaker 1: It's a decent bet to say he might be Kansas's
Speaker 1: second leading scorer this year. Bill self acknowledged throughout the
Speaker 1: week that he thought that he was responsible for Store
Speaker 1: being a little confused at this point because originally he
Speaker 1: got onto Store to be less aggressive and share the
Speaker 1: ball more, and then he started doing that and now
Speaker 1: Self said he wants some of that aggressiveness back. He
Speaker 1: seems like the sort of player that when it's going well,
Speaker 1: he's going to be getting a lot of baskets at
Speaker 1: the rim, driving downhill and then occasionally shooting threes. But
Speaker 1: his game appears to be driving of the cup. Store
Speaker 1: is important this team. You mentioned overtext during the game
Speaker 1: that you've been pretty unimpressed through two games. What has
Speaker 1: it about his game that has that has you feeling
Speaker 1: that way? And do you have optimism it will change
Speaker 1: as he gets some experience.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, there's definitely optimism that I think he
Speaker 2: will still be a very solid player. Like it's two
Speaker 2: exhibition games, you never know. Obviously, I think he still
Speaker 2: be good. The main thing is that I just haven't
Speaker 2: really seen him do anything particularly well in either game,
Speaker 2: Like you know, and again it is like the Arkansas
Speaker 2: game is the whole thing because it is the first
Speaker 2: time these guys are playing together. Arkansas is very athletic,
Speaker 2: like it's a whole the environment is tough, But I
Speaker 2: think the main thing is I haven't seen him drive
Speaker 2: to the cup very well yet, which is especially kind
Speaker 2: of concerning against washingburniye Onlios two for seven from the
Speaker 2: floor against the Ichabods and then also not knocking down
Speaker 2: the threes. I know, he's not like a premier shooter
Speaker 2: in the way that some of these other guys are,
Speaker 2: so he isn't going to take and make nearly as
Speaker 2: many as some of these guys hopefully, But yeah, I
Speaker 2: just it is that aggressive this thing, and Bill self
Speaker 2: does have this tendency at times. I think you mentioned
Speaker 2: Ryan in the chat during the game, like a little
Speaker 2: bit of over coaching. Sometimes it feels like it's not
Speaker 2: the first time this sort of thing has happened, where
Speaker 2: you know, Bill self feels like he's asking players to
Speaker 2: tone back their natural instincts, but then kind of regrets
Speaker 2: doing that at a different point in the season when
Speaker 2: you see that player not really knowing Remie Martin what they're.
Speaker 1: Doing all the time.
Speaker 2: So hopefully that's not the case, or hopefully that will,
Speaker 2: you know, wear off. I do think by the end
Speaker 2: of the Wash spring game he was starting to look
Speaker 2: a lot more comfortable. But yeah, I just haven't seen
Speaker 2: anything particularly stand out about him. Unfortunately, when he is
Speaker 2: a guy that yeah, coming into the air that he's
Speaker 2: a guy you were thinking could average, you know, fifteen
Speaker 2: sixteen points a game, be that kind of guy knocked
Speaker 2: down a couple threes, be a Kevin mccullor type. I
Speaker 2: still think he is the Kevin mccullor player type. But
Speaker 2: we'll see if he can actually fit the Kevin McCuller role.
Speaker 2: So far he hasn't, but real game start in a week,
Speaker 2: so we'll get a much better feel for how that
Speaker 2: goes against Howard. I think, well, I'm.
Speaker 1: Very curious to hear you guys' thoughts on something that
Speaker 1: immediately came to mind for me. For store, the last
Speaker 1: three well known three man, three men, three man's whatever
Speaker 1: you want to say, guys that played the three at Kansas,
Speaker 1: Sophie m kay look, Christian Brown, and then last year
Speaker 1: Kevin McCuller. All three of those guys were very good passers.
Speaker 1: They all had good assist numbers. It's an integral part
Speaker 1: of a bill self Hi lowl offense AJ Storre and
Speaker 1: neither of his first two seasons averaged one assist per game.
Speaker 1: He was under that in both seasons last year zero
Speaker 1: point nine assists while playing thirty minutes a game. Passing
Speaker 1: really isn't his strong suit. You expect that to go
Speaker 1: up when he's playing with a walking bucket who's seven
Speaker 1: foot two inside. I get, But this is a guy
Speaker 1: that when his three point shot isn't falling, which it
Speaker 1: hasn't so far, and he hasn't got a lot of
Speaker 1: success with penetration off the dribble, getting of the cup,
Speaker 1: he's not going to add you much on the glass,
Speaker 1: less than four boards per game last year when playing
Speaker 1: starter minutes, and he's not going to contribute much passing
Speaker 1: the ball less than an assessed and I don't think
Speaker 1: defensively he's known as a big time He's certainly not
Speaker 1: to the Kevin mcculluor Christian Brown level defenders. So I'm
Speaker 1: a little concerned about Store. Not because I've seen him
Speaker 1: not be sharp so far. That's not it. Plenty of time,
Speaker 1: Jalen Wilson was the arguably Kansas's best player in the
Speaker 1: National Championship Game and in that entire NCAA tournament run,
Speaker 1: after being dreadful for the entire non con Slow starts
Speaker 1: do not mean slow finishes. But I am a little
Speaker 1: concerned if Store isn't making shots, is he going to
Speaker 1: contribute enough in other ways to keep him on the
Speaker 1: floor when you have guys like Koit on the bench,
Speaker 1: or Zeke Mayo who may or may not be in
Speaker 1: and out of the starting lineup, or Rylan Griffin coming
Speaker 1: off the bench. I don't know. I don't think Store
Speaker 1: is that. I don't feel as confident as I did
Speaker 1: about Store's impact. And it's not because he played poorly.
Speaker 1: It's more because of the other guys I've seen play well.
Speaker 2: Is that fair? So basically, is he gonna be Wayne Selden.
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly. And Selden was a better pastor than than
Speaker 1: Storr has been in his career too. And Selden was
Speaker 1: the worst of all those players. You listed, a guy
Speaker 1: who if he was making threes, he's an impact player.
Speaker 1: If he wasn't borderline liability even as a junior.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yet of time.
Speaker 3: Landon actually had an interesting point in the group chat
Speaker 3: this morning, and he was kind of saying, amongst all
Speaker 3: the inflammatory statements that came out of my mouth, he
Speaker 3: was saying that it's interesting how Bill self and Kansas
Speaker 3: goes into the portal and gets these players that might
Speaker 3: not be an amazing fit.
Speaker 2: For the system. Yep.
Speaker 3: And I think with aj Storr in theory. Yeah, if
Speaker 3: the shots are falling, it's great, but it will be interesting.
Speaker 3: As Ryan said, I mean, yeah, you have Hunter Dickinson,
Speaker 3: but if he's not, if he doesn't have great court vision,
Speaker 3: then yeah, I don't. I don't foresee him I mean
Speaker 3: that big of an impact at least right away on
Speaker 3: this team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna be the hard part because there are
Speaker 1: guys and I understand it was just one game against Washburn,
Speaker 1: but what we saw at as Zeke Mayo, Ryland Griffin,
Speaker 1: and David Koit tonight definitely doesn't leave us or Bill
Speaker 1: self saying I'd like less of that, please. And you know, kJ,
Speaker 1: Hunter and to one are not gonna play fewer than
Speaker 1: twenty seven to thirty minutes a game unless it's a
Speaker 1: total blowout, So you got two spots and plenty of
Speaker 1: mouths to feed for those spots. I think Ryland Griffin.
Speaker 1: I'm in total favor of starting Ryland Griffin. I don't
Speaker 1: know how you can watch him play basketball and think
Speaker 1: that he should not be one of the five guys
Speaker 1: getting the most minutes. He is your ultimate X factor.
Speaker 1: He is your best shooter. He is the guy that's
Speaker 1: going to command the most defensive attention, and he is
Speaker 1: the guy that is going to make the biggest impact
Speaker 1: on Hunter Dickinson, who is the most important part of
Speaker 1: your offense. I want Ryland Griffin playing close to thirty
Speaker 1: minutes a night. I want him playing starter minutes. And
Speaker 1: then you got guys like Mayokoit and Store all fighting
Speaker 1: for the last spot. I think they got a lot
Speaker 1: of mouse defeat in this team, and I'm not quite
Speaker 1: sure how they're gonna do it. But if Store struggles,
Speaker 1: there's going to be somebody, by chance that is going
Speaker 1: to earn those minutes that he's not of those other
Speaker 1: guys who else kind of caught your eye. I mean,
Speaker 1: Zeke Mayo made three threes all on a very short
Speaker 1: amount of time, just one after the other, bang bang bang,
Speaker 1: and then obviously what we saw from from Ryland Griffin.
Speaker 1: That's the guy. Am I am I weird for saying
Speaker 1: that that guy's got to be in your starting lineup
Speaker 1: and if you don't have him there, then that's just
Speaker 1: the wrong choice.
Speaker 2: I feel like I remember us talking about Ryland Griffin
Speaker 2: having like borderline lottery pick or like NBA draft pick
Speaker 2: at least like level upside. I'm not saying he is that,
Speaker 2: but that was what felt like the talking points were
Speaker 2: coming out of his decision to come to Kansas out
Speaker 2: of the portal. Like so it feels like, if that
Speaker 2: guy is like competent at all, he's gotta be in
Speaker 2: the conversation to start. Obviously, Zeke Mayo has played pretty well.
Speaker 2: He was a little bit rough against Arkansas, still hit
Speaker 2: a couple threes, but also you know that's his that's
Speaker 2: another again, like just a huge step up in competition
Speaker 2: in comparison to what he's used to it. South Dakota
Speaker 2: State Griffin.
Speaker 1: Was a starter on a Final four team. Like like,
Speaker 1: he's got the most. What he has done in his career,
Speaker 1: I think is more impressive than anything aj Store has.
Speaker 1: Spare me the four more points in the game. Griffin
Speaker 1: was the best shooter on a Final four team.
Speaker 2: I agree, And I think he has a dynamism to
Speaker 2: him and to his game that not maybe maybe not
Speaker 2: anyone else has quite on this team. With his athleticism
Speaker 2: and his shooting ability, Like, I think those those pair
Speaker 2: up for a really really explosive player potentially Obviously, again,
Speaker 2: you'd like to see it against someone not Washburn, But
Speaker 2: I mean he he grades out as a really tough
Speaker 2: end player. And I agree with you, Ryan, I want
Speaker 2: to see him start. I and we I'm sure we
Speaker 2: will get into the kJ discourse. Maybe we'll just do
Speaker 2: it now. I don't think kJ should start, Nor do
Speaker 2: I think Flory has been that great despite putting up
Speaker 2: some pretty good numbers against Washburn. I've he's also just
Speaker 2: been okay, but that's kind of to be expected. But
Speaker 2: I think I think you should start essentially four guards around.
Speaker 1: Hunter Cam, go ahead and give me some Flory Badunga analysis,
Speaker 1: because yeah, he played about twenty minutes in both games.
Speaker 1: They didn't have Hunter Dickinson, so he got the starter
Speaker 1: starter nod. Against Arkansas, he was very overwhelmed, especially defensively.
Speaker 1: Arkansas took it right at him. Offensively, shot a decent
Speaker 1: percentage seven for eight shooting in the two games. Led
Speaker 1: the team in rebounds, I believe in both games with
Speaker 1: seven as well. Looks to be good on the glass.
Speaker 1: Looks to have pretty good front court vision too, whenever
Speaker 1: it comes to assists. He was very good at Hunter
Speaker 1: Dickinson level. Hunter Dickinson's very good at spotting open shooters.
Speaker 1: I don't think that gets enough appreciation. But Doonga does
Speaker 1: that pretty well, and he's obviously super athletic. But defensively, eh,
Speaker 1: there's not a better way or a better thing you
Speaker 1: can do to work your way out of Bill Self's
Speaker 1: rotation than to be a revolving door on the defensive end.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, guys, I actually think Zach
Speaker 3: Clements should play all five positions.
Speaker 2: That's the key to a Final four run. But no,
Speaker 2: I mean I think I think Flory it's about what
Speaker 2: you expect, right, I mean, he's he's a freshman going
Speaker 2: to play Division one basketball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's an amazing athlete. It's going to take him
Speaker 3: a little bit to get comfortable with the speed of
Speaker 3: the game, and he's playing against a really good Arkansas
Speaker 3: team last week, so nothing to nothing too concerning. I
Speaker 3: think it will take him a little bit of time
Speaker 3: to get comfortable for the game to slow down a
Speaker 3: little bit.
Speaker 2: But he's exactly what we thought. I mean, he's a
Speaker 2: good athlete.
Speaker 3: He's going to be a great rebounder, he will be
Speaker 3: a good shot blocker, and I think he's going to
Speaker 3: be a nice compliment to Hunter Dickinson. I don't know
Speaker 3: how that will work with spacing and how the rotations
Speaker 3: will work. I don't think Bill self even knows yet.
Speaker 3: But overall, nothing nothing too concerning there. I do want
Speaker 3: to talk about Zach Clements at some point.
Speaker 2: You make sure that's gonna be covered today.
Speaker 1: I only have four hundred and sixty show under my belt,
Speaker 1: so I feel like I'm experienced enough where you should
Speaker 1: trust that. There's no chance I'm closing out this recap
Speaker 1: without giving you the floor on that. After seeing what
Speaker 1: the group chat looked like about an hour ago. But Landon,
Speaker 1: I feel like last year we watched Parker Brown. We
Speaker 1: watched him be unspectacular but not a complete liability, and
Speaker 1: it was enough sometimes and other times it wasn't.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Now, the goal, according to Bill self, is Hunter Dickinson
Speaker 1: should play less than thirty minutes a game. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: he's hurt already, he's got a hurt foot, sounds like
Speaker 1: he'll be fine. But still two things right there. You
Speaker 1: don't want Hunter Dickinson playing thirty to thirty five minutes
Speaker 1: a game. In order to do that, you got to
Speaker 1: make sure that the center position behind him isn't a
Speaker 1: dumpster fire, especially considering they play North Carolina, Michigan State,
Speaker 1: and Duke in the first thirty days of the season. Well,
Speaker 1: I didn't see anything in these two games between Cam's man,
Speaker 1: Zach Clemens or Florie Badonga that would make me think
Speaker 1: when Hunter Dickinson sits down that Kansas that we know
Speaker 1: exactly what the other which is gonna call for in
Speaker 1: that moment, go right at the big guy. I don't
Speaker 1: think Hunter is gonna be on the bench very long.
Speaker 1: I hope that his foot holds up because I'm assuming
Speaker 1: you don't feel comfortable at all, but with with these guys,
Speaker 1: at least at this stage in the year, if Dickenson
Speaker 1: needs a breather.
Speaker 2: Not for very long. I mean, I don't think Flori
Speaker 2: is like a complete liability, but he did. He was
Speaker 2: very easy to pass in the lane, it seemed, which
Speaker 2: is weird because he's still This is where block shots
Speaker 2: is not actually a great defensive stat Like, it's not
Speaker 2: a bad one, it just isn't necessarily indicative of being
Speaker 2: an actually good defender.
Speaker 1: Just bad defenders can have good shot blocking numbers, right, yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: Mitch Lightfoot, there you go, yeah, Mitch go.
Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think Flori is a bad player.
Speaker 2: I don't think he played poorly, but I do think
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a learning curve type thing and then
Speaker 2: all you know, kJ is not gonna really be a
Speaker 2: five guy. Zach Clements woof, Okay, if yeah, go, just
Speaker 2: go if just based off yeah, just based off of what.
Speaker 3: We've seen, and we've we've had this, like you guys
Speaker 3: have had this argument in the past. Do you think
Speaker 3: it's worth just throwing Flory out there early in the season,
Speaker 3: even if it means a couple losses early just to
Speaker 3: get him experience and kind of see what happens, or
Speaker 3: do we Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: This conversation again, this conversation again, the one that we
Speaker 1: do every year. Yes, yes, yes, the answer is yes.
Speaker 1: Bill self will say no and he will ride Hunter
Speaker 1: until that size thirty two foot snaps in half. But yes,
Speaker 1: they absolutely should they Flory being established and developed in
Speaker 1: March is worth way more than maybe losing the North Carolina.
Speaker 2: Yes, fair enough.
Speaker 1: I concur We've seen that. We've seen that fall apart
Speaker 1: many times. And then Bill self next year is like, hm,
Speaker 1: maybe I should have played check yallamore in case Land
Speaker 1: and Lucas got foul trouble. We're like yeah, and then
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm gonna do that next year, and guess
Speaker 1: what doesn't happen next year?
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to just take the Zach Clements,
Speaker 2: because I'm willing to let you do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go with dam Clemens. Here's the stats. He
Speaker 1: was zero for four from the floor and the two
Speaker 1: games he did lead Kansas the second game with four fouls,
Speaker 1: and he led him the first game with four turnovers.
Speaker 1: If you're doing the math on that that is five turnovers,
Speaker 1: eight fouls, good Lord, and no baskets for Zach Clemens,
Speaker 1: who Bill self said was the most improved player that
Speaker 1: go go for it, Cam, It's it's yours.
Speaker 3: Not to ask like history questions. But did Obama close
Speaker 3: Guantanamo Bay like you said he would? Because I have
Speaker 3: a perfect state and play package for him, free gym membership.
Speaker 2: Free food.
Speaker 3: He's taken care of, because I think we all need
Speaker 3: a shelter for when that man enters the game. I
Speaker 3: have never seen, I mean I probably have, but in
Speaker 3: recent memory a player that has not gotten better at all.
Speaker 3: In according to Bill Self, Hall of Famer Bill Self,
Speaker 3: he's the most improved player on this Kansas team. I
Speaker 3: don't I just don't understand. I will forever remember Zach
Speaker 3: Clements as the guy who shot a volleyball line three
Speaker 3: pointer with four seconds left in whatever game that was
Speaker 3: against Wisconsin, only for yeah, yes, only for Bobby Pettiford
Speaker 3: to put it back. And that is how he'll be
Speaker 3: remembered by me.
Speaker 2: So that's my ran.
Speaker 1: That was the Atlantis Tournament, I think, and they that
Speaker 1: was on Thanksgiving morning at like eleven thirty in the morning,
Speaker 1: and yeah, and Zach Clements if I if I believe
Speaker 1: I'm correct on this, Kevin McCuller hit a game tying
Speaker 1: three with like eight seconds left in regulation to send
Speaker 1: that game in overtime. I think Zach Clements missed a
Speaker 1: three that then they rebounded and dished out to McCuller.
Speaker 1: Before that, I think he tried to be the hero
Speaker 1: in both regulation and overtime, and much like he did
Speaker 1: against Washburn and Arkansas came out of that with zero points.
Speaker 2: Not good.
Speaker 1: It's honestly, that's it's it's it is surprising. I'm with
Speaker 1: you that we cannot get we can't get it to
Speaker 1: be better. Because Bill self did say that he's the
Speaker 1: most improved player, and we talked about on the last show,
Speaker 1: there's some worth in having a stretch five that can
Speaker 1: go out there. Boy, Flory, you better get caught up
Speaker 1: to speed faster than we thought you needed to because
Speaker 1: at this point, oh my gosh, are they totally boned
Speaker 1: If something happens to Flori and Hunter Dickinson needs to
Speaker 1: rest his tire sized lungs, and I'm looking at.
Speaker 2: The I think Flori's already about one hundred, one hundred
Speaker 2: points better than Zach Clements in all categories.
Speaker 1: Yes, if you ever want to know that recruiting doesn't
Speaker 1: mean anything. Zach Clemens was the number thirty six recruit
Speaker 1: according to ESPN and twenty twenty one, ahead of the
Speaker 1: names Tyres Hunter, kJ Adams, Arthur Kaluma, Jonas Adu, who's
Speaker 1: a seven foot monster. I think for a he started
Speaker 1: at Tennessee. He's continued to move throughout. Ryan Nemhard very
Speaker 1: good player, ranked below Zach Clements on the recruiting website.
Speaker 1: So and uh. And then there's Bobby Pettiford way down there,
Speaker 1: who plays for who? Can you guys tell me that
Speaker 1: I don't know if it changed again?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I should know.
Speaker 1: Wow, No, it's changed. This is not what I expected.
Speaker 2: I actually don't know, but I'm just gonna throw up
Speaker 2: towsand for fun.
Speaker 1: You're on the right coast. He plays for the high
Speaker 1: Point Panthers.
Speaker 2: Wow, I saw they got a They got one vote
Speaker 2: in the coaches poll, I believe, or maybe it was
Speaker 2: the AP.
Speaker 3: I think high Point you get like a five dollars
Speaker 3: foot long coupon for your nil money.
Speaker 1: And high Point last year I do remember at high
Speaker 1: Point was pretty good. Last year they made the championship
Speaker 1: game of the CBI Tournament. They were twenty seven and
Speaker 1: nine lost.
Speaker 2: To Seattle U quality. I don't know what is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well Bobby Pettiford maybe can take them to New Heights. Okay,
Speaker 1: kind of looking at that. Anything else from these exhibition games.
Speaker 1: I went back into homework once and tried to figure out, like,
Speaker 1: does how much they win the Washburn game by actually
Speaker 1: matter in terms of how many games they win in
Speaker 1: the regular season, And no, it doesn't. The national championship
Speaker 1: team looked really bored. Remember when Bill Self, like Remy
Speaker 1: Martin scored twelve points against whoever it was like Fort
Speaker 1: Hayes State, and Bill Self was like, Okay, this isn't
Speaker 1: gonna work. Mitch, go out there and show him how
Speaker 1: it's done. It takes some charges. You guys remember that,
Speaker 1: Like he's like yelling at Remy that game for scoring
Speaker 1: too much.
Speaker 2: I remember that game being very un eventful in general. Yeah,
Speaker 2: most little self tradition, welcoming in transfers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and back to what you guys have both
Speaker 1: talked about, like they said on the radio at which,
Speaker 1: oh my god, the Kansas radio booth is so bad.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to to to throw glass stones at
Speaker 1: the at the house whatever, throw whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to throw stones at their
Speaker 2: glassuse there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but because like I'm not trying to say that
Speaker 1: my commentary is is excellent by any stretch, But you
Speaker 1: have to throw Brian Caney into a cannon and launch
Speaker 1: that thing in outer space, like you cannot. You cannot
Speaker 1: let this man call basketball games anymore. Washburn made a
Speaker 1: three and he goes and the Ichabods have hit the
Speaker 1: half century mark? Who says half century mark? That? Why? Why?
Speaker 1: He sounds like a Saturday Night Live guy making a
Speaker 1: basketball game and a game show. He's so bad. Do
Speaker 1: people like Brian Haney either one of you know someone
Speaker 1: who likes Brian Haney? I mean no, yeah, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen anybody be like Brian Haney is so good. You'd
Speaker 1: see that about Bob Davis. And it's it's just painful.
Speaker 1: They're painful to listen to. He lines up a three.
Speaker 2: He got the three.
Speaker 1: Wow, bullsye. The only bullseye is the is the is
Speaker 1: the sniper mark on my tail for me wanting to
Speaker 1: pull the freaking trigger listening to these awful announcers.
Speaker 3: Oh, you're so passionate about Brian Haney, It's amazing.
Speaker 1: I just I just wish he was better because I
Speaker 1: listened to more games on the radio than I used to,
Speaker 1: and and it, Yeah, I just think he's bad. They
Speaker 1: did say, uh that one the new Allen Fieldhouse renovations.
Speaker 1: They kept talking about them, and then they kept complaining
Speaker 1: about how the big new scoreboard apparently doesn't show how
Speaker 1: many points or rebounds or fouls players have. You have
Speaker 1: to crank your neck ninety degrees and look at the
Speaker 1: giant Costco TV they put in the corner of that
Speaker 1: place to find out that information now. And they also said,
Speaker 1: at no point on the no part of that giant
Speaker 1: scoreboard doesn't say how many team fouls each squad has,
Speaker 1: So they were having to keep a tally on the sideline.
Speaker 1: I figure that's not gonna last too much longer, but yikes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty pretty brutally bad mistakes.
Speaker 1: What did you guys guys saw the stream?
Speaker 3: I think I think all the money went to the
Speaker 3: new Kansas Football Stadium for a college football playoff bound Jayhawks.
Speaker 2: So for Isaiah Marshall to throw five touchdowns to thirteen
Speaker 2: interceptions next season.
Speaker 1: Get that son of them to show up the field
Speaker 1: right now. I can't. It's yeah, that's that's that would
Speaker 1: explain it, because then they try to, like I heard
Speaker 1: they put that Greg Gurley said, they went from sixty
Speaker 1: to one hundred food stands, And I'm trying to figure
Speaker 1: out how the hell there's one hundred different places to
Speaker 1: buy food in that place, which is like one per
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty people now in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that math doesn't math.
Speaker 1: No, it's something's not right with it. But like, hopefully
Speaker 1: they'll get that figured out. You guys watched the stream,
Speaker 1: did it look different? Like did the scoreboard? My grandma
Speaker 1: was at the game and she sent me some pictures.
Speaker 1: She said that the scoreboard was sharper, but she was
Speaker 1: irritated how it didn't say how many points and rebounds
Speaker 1: each player had. I don't. I've gotta figure they'll fix
Speaker 1: that eventually, or is it too small they make it's
Speaker 1: more on the wall was just, yeah, that's the one
Speaker 1: where you have to look for the that's the that's
Speaker 1: the one wherever you have to to look at to
Speaker 1: find out how many points Zach Clements had, because you know,
Speaker 1: he was scoring so much that it was hard to
Speaker 1: keep track of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I I don't want to waste too much
Speaker 3: energy on Zach Clemens because I feel like, if I
Speaker 3: keep going, I'm going to fall asleep by ASCARCB.
Speaker 1: So if Zach Clemens plays more than a few minutes
Speaker 1: a game, you better be blowing out Howard or Hunter Dickinson.
Speaker 2: Isn't an air cast like it's something exact wrong. If
Speaker 2: Zach Clemens is on the floor for over ten minutes
Speaker 2: in an Elite eight loss against Oregon or something like that,
Speaker 2: I will drive my car through a costco, Like.
Speaker 1: I'm not hasn't happened before, That hasn't happened once. I
Speaker 1: don't think they've lost an Elite eight game to Oregon
Speaker 1: because they're big guys, were worse than the other teams.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Also that I'm watching, I just see a picture of
Speaker 1: the new video board. They've really gone all out with
Speaker 1: the circus fun. It's everywhere now and it says fifteen
Speaker 1: final fourth. Really, like, how how long are they gonna
Speaker 1: are they gonna like obey that? How long before they
Speaker 1: grow some balls and tell the NCAA, you know what?
Speaker 2: How about no about the same time everyone else does. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it'll wait no longer is a thing.
Speaker 1: I wonder if Kansas will have beaten Kansas State and
Speaker 1: football by that point. Rock's pass more. A couple of
Speaker 1: other notes. Ricky's passmore looked really good against Arkansas he
Speaker 1: and then he was he was quite bad against Washburn,
Speaker 1: missed all five of his shots. He should be easy.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to play fewer minutes than a
Speaker 1: lot of us want him to. But that's not because
Speaker 1: of anything of his fault. It's just because the team's
Speaker 1: so deep. And Greg Gurley was very confident that Jamary
Speaker 1: McDowell would be red shirting. He said a final decision
Speaker 1: will come out at the end of the week, but
Speaker 1: he said he is far and away the team's most
Speaker 1: likely candidate. And then whenever he made a three, Greg
Speaker 1: Gurley said, wow, jem already made that basket his final
Speaker 1: one of the year at Alan Fieldhouse, So I think
Speaker 1: he's red shirting.
Speaker 2: Guys, well, it was pretty telling on the broadcast they
Speaker 2: were talking about the same thing and immediately cut to
Speaker 2: Jamar McDowell without saying his name. So I do think
Speaker 2: that is kind of the consensus opinion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my final takeaways from the exhibitions. I don't want
Speaker 1: to bark at Bill self or make this the podcast
Speaker 1: host complain about the Hall of Fame coach era on
Speaker 1: this podcast, but Bill selfs got.
Speaker 2: To play with the podcast.
Speaker 1: It's gotten better the last couple of years. And now
Speaker 1: that Ryland Griffin's there. At the same time that kJ
Speaker 1: Adams is who we didn't talk about, we probably should
Speaker 1: talk about kJ real quickly. kJ statistically was what he
Speaker 1: was last year. Struggled to rebound unless it was against
Speaker 1: the Echabods, but against Arkansas he was just four for
Speaker 1: ten from the floor, led the team in minutes. Against Washburn,
Speaker 1: he made all four of his shots and once again
Speaker 1: led the team in minutes with twenty four. He is
Speaker 1: what he is, right, He's the same player he was
Speaker 1: last year. They make him sound like he's just this
Speaker 1: this this Hakeem Elijah won On the broadcast, They're like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, the the the power and the force
Speaker 1: that is kJ Adams And I'm like, okay, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: as long as he's within a foot of the basket,
Speaker 1: he is.
Speaker 2: I still like Keg Adams. I think Cage Adams is
Speaker 2: a good basketball player. I do just think it's a
Speaker 2: system thing more than anything else. He would be absolutely
Speaker 2: incredible if he played in like the Missouri Valley Conference
Speaker 2: or something like that. He'll be Stephen a certain games, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I I hope that kJ finds that fit. Like we
Speaker 1: were all very skeptical that David McCormick would ever work
Speaker 1: at Kansas, and then the senior ear happened and it
Speaker 1: all came together at the right time. He proved to
Speaker 1: be a very valuable piece for Kansas. There were a
Speaker 1: lot of trends that when he played well, Kansas won
Speaker 1: almost every single time. Uh, and it worked, and sometimes
Speaker 1: it just doesn't work, Like you keep trying to make
Speaker 1: Nick Timberlake happen and Nope, it's just not happen. I
Speaker 1: hope that kJ Adams doesn't prove to be a liability,
Speaker 1: and I do think it will be more obvious than
Speaker 1: it was last year. Last year he was the third
Speaker 1: leading scorer, second leading by the time McCuller tapped out
Speaker 1: on the season. And whenever you have have that, it's
Speaker 1: kind of hard to criticize your second leading scorer who
Speaker 1: also is your most athletic. But man if kJ is
Speaker 1: clogging up the paint and keeping one of those three
Speaker 1: point shooters on the bench. I don't know. I saw
Speaker 1: what the offense can look like whenever you give Mayo,
Speaker 1: Griffin and Quoit all a lot of playing time and
Speaker 1: the result is fun basketball and lots of threes. Any
Speaker 1: final takeaways, I hope.
Speaker 2: Kansas can shoot the ball as well as they did
Speaker 2: against Washburn. Obviously it's not gonna be fifteen threes a day,
Speaker 2: but I hope that is more the sign of things
Speaker 2: to come than the Arkansas game. I think I think
Speaker 2: Howard might take it in the shorts a little bit
Speaker 2: shooting perspective. I mostly like what I saw. I'm not
Speaker 2: hitting the panic button by any stretch from the Arkansas loss.
Speaker 2: I think this team, genuinely, he does have a lot
Speaker 2: of depth. Hopefully the Hunter Dickinson injury is truly just precautionary.
Speaker 2: Excited for the real things to start. Yeah, go Wikabuds.
Speaker 1: Yeah that that echabods are are a good story. Brett
Speaker 1: Ballard obviously has Kansas ties. That's Nick's alma mater. We
Speaker 1: I I Landon asked Nick who he wanted to win
Speaker 1: the game, and Nick just said, I just hope everybody
Speaker 1: has fun. And I think that Kansas had more fun
Speaker 1: than Washburn did in this game. But Washburn probably got
Speaker 1: a nice check. They probably got a couple hundred grand
Speaker 1: to go in there and get their get their doors
Speaker 1: blown off them by the Jayhawks. Right, so athletics work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll find a few trips to McDonald's for him.
Speaker 1: Hey, all right, that's that's that sounds good to me,
Speaker 1: as Landon knows, I'm a McDonald's connoisseur. Uh and uh,
Speaker 1: that's that's something that we disagree with, which I just
Speaker 1: don't get it. Maybe one day I'll show it.
Speaker 2: The way Donald's. I just don't know.
Speaker 1: You guys are good. Have you guys tried the chicken
Speaker 1: big Mac?
Speaker 2: I have? It was fine.
Speaker 3: I have not had fried food since the that's right administration.
Speaker 1: So well no, no, no, no, no, no no please.
Speaker 1: All right, So now it's time to do forty prop bets,
Speaker 1: but this year it's thirty because inflation hits all of us, guys,
Speaker 1: we're all we're all shrink flating a little bit. We'll
Speaker 1: try to cut some costs. And also because about ten
Speaker 1: of the props every year, none of them, about ten
Speaker 1: of them weren't winners. So you get thirty and and
Speaker 1: and here we go. What we do every year is
Speaker 1: we write up some props and after watching a couple
Speaker 1: of exhibition games there they're questions that only have one answer,
Speaker 1: and then we had them at the end of the year.
Speaker 1: And usually thirty five percent is good enough to take
Speaker 1: home the gold and Cam and Landon have already agreed
Speaker 1: on the punishment for this season. Pick them. Well, we'll
Speaker 1: keep that a secret until well, uh, we'll keep it
Speaker 1: a secret until a video surfaces next day for one
Speaker 1: of us. It'll be but here we go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be on Reddit and also hotnewhip Hop dot com.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I'm supposed to follow that up
Speaker 1: by asking you how many points the one here you
Speaker 1: can score this year, But I guess that's the only
Speaker 1: thing I can do. So here we go with twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four prop bets, starting with let's ask about Hunter
Speaker 1: Dickinson over under eighteen points per game four? Hunter seventeen
Speaker 1: point nine was his mark from a year ago.
Speaker 2: I will go over. I will also go over if
Speaker 2: he plays.
Speaker 1: All right, then what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna
Speaker 1: change this line until we have a discrepancy what if
Speaker 1: I take it to nineteen point zho? Is that too high?
Speaker 2: That feels right? I think that's the number.
Speaker 1: Okay, nineteen nineteen slight.
Speaker 2: Oh, nineteen and ten.
Speaker 1: I think he wins the nasmith and I'm going to
Speaker 1: take an ever so slight under on nineteen because I
Speaker 1: think it's his rebounding numbers that more. Do it. If
Speaker 1: he gets the nineteen I think he is. The accolades
Speaker 1: will roll in at that point. All right, over under
Speaker 1: eleven point zho rebounds per game for Hunter? I will
Speaker 1: take it over on that. I think his numbers are
Speaker 1: crazy good.
Speaker 3: Probably also over Yeah, give me the over on that
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 1: All right, what if I make it eleven point five?
Speaker 1: Anyone who want to switch?
Speaker 2: I'll go under?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll stay over. I'm gonna say he gets nineteen twelve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go over. Probably nineteen twelve.
Speaker 1: I mean that would be really really nice. Last year
Speaker 1: it was eighteen and eleven, so surely you can take
Speaker 1: it up one there over under twenty three and a
Speaker 1: half total three pointers made by Hunter Dickinson. He made
Speaker 1: twenty four last year, So this question is does he
Speaker 1: make as many as he did last year?
Speaker 3: Ooh, I'm gonna go under. Actually I think he has. Yeah,
Speaker 3: three point shooting is not a problem for this team.
Speaker 3: He also shot like one for six hundred and forty
Speaker 3: five in conference play last year.
Speaker 1: So wow, I'm surprised. I thought for sure i'd get
Speaker 1: you guys. I thought that'd be easy. I thought you
Speaker 1: guys would both go oh yeah, if he's just got
Speaker 1: to do what he did last year, he wasn't very
Speaker 1: good last year. I'll take it over. But I like
Speaker 1: my and my logic was gonna be no, they have
Speaker 1: better shooting, so I to be different, will say over,
Speaker 1: I say they play a few more games. We're not
Speaker 1: gonna worry about him missing any time because that foot's
Speaker 1: already sore. Don't worry at all. I'll take an over
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 2: I'll say.
Speaker 1: I'll say Hunter gets thirty threes all right, over under
Speaker 1: nine points per game for Dwan Harris under under, Wow,
Speaker 1: both of you. I think it's over. I think Harris
Speaker 1: gets the double digits. I mean, if he can as
Speaker 1: a fifth year, then when is it gonna happen? No,
Speaker 1: that was quick, you guys immediately set under.
Speaker 3: But there's there's more scorers this year.
Speaker 2: That's that's the only thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, he can score, but why like, would you
Speaker 3: rather have him shooting over Ryland Griffin but Zeke Mayo.
Speaker 1: But when he plays that much, I think I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna score enough to get over nine. I don't know,
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll be dead wrong. I'll say I'll say I'll
Speaker 1: say over, and you guys can play that later whenever
Speaker 1: in the last two weeks of my life before I
Speaker 1: have to do the punishment, can decided on over under
Speaker 1: seven seven assists for to one Harris over?
Speaker 2: Alright, seven's a lot. Yeah, well you know what, Yeah,
Speaker 2: give me over.
Speaker 1: When okay, seven and a half? Still over over?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Under, Yeah, I think it's under on that one. Landon,
Speaker 1: you're you're they gotta be. I will say this, if
Speaker 1: they any three point props, Landon, you know, have to
Speaker 1: take an over because if Harris needs to get if
Speaker 1: Harris gets to eight plus assists per game, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of threes. He can get four or
Speaker 1: five to hunter, but he's gonna need the threes to
Speaker 1: get into that eight to nine range.
Speaker 2: That is probably true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's a Devonte Graham average?
Speaker 2: And he was point two?
Speaker 1: That's it is I think he had more assists than
Speaker 1: anybody I've seen. At Kansas, he had seven assists in
Speaker 1: a college game for an average.
Speaker 2: Is it's a lot. That is a lot of assist
Speaker 2: per game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is. And I think Harris is going to
Speaker 1: play the minutes. I don't care what Bill self says
Speaker 1: about how he wants to balance the time out more.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna get the minutes to get there.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about aj Store over under thirteen
Speaker 1: points per game for aj.
Speaker 2: H, I'm going to think of where these points are
Speaker 2: gonna come from for this.
Speaker 1: That's that. That's how the props kind of work. By
Speaker 1: the time you've answered four scoring ones, you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I have him scoring one hundred and twenty points a game,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't work. So you kind of have to.
Speaker 2: Put him like that.
Speaker 1: It makes it harder. I'm gonna say, Under, I don't
Speaker 1: think it ever really clicks for Store like it did
Speaker 1: at Wisconsin. I think he's gonna have good moments, but
Speaker 1: I don't think consistently it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: I think I think Under.
Speaker 3: I think Under as well, And I'm gonna guess he
Speaker 3: averages somewhere in the realm of like ten points per game.
Speaker 1: That's a lot lower than I'm comfortable going. So, okay,
Speaker 1: how low do I have to get it to get
Speaker 1: you to switch? I think i'd take an over on
Speaker 1: eleven and a half, but I don't know if I'm
Speaker 1: taking an over on twelve.
Speaker 2: I take an over on eleven and a half. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna make it twelve eleven eleven.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it twelve, and I will say over.
Speaker 1: I think he gets the twelve and both of you don't.
Speaker 1: I'm like by myself. You guys are in like perfect
Speaker 1: sync at this point. If aj Star Store only averages
Speaker 1: like eleven points a game, someone's got to make up
Speaker 1: for it, especially if you guys don't think the one
Speaker 1: aris is gonna do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm not a mathematician. I basically filled math in college,
Speaker 3: but I did pass eventually, So this is not my best.
Speaker 2: My best he's gonna score over nineteen a game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and everybody else is gonna be under. Let's
Speaker 1: see if you think the points get made up here
Speaker 1: over under thirteen points per game for kJ Adams. He
Speaker 1: was at thirteen point four last year. I do think
Speaker 1: his stats go up. I think he will score. I
Speaker 1: don't know about the rebounding part, but the scoring isn't
Speaker 1: really a problem. He also should be improved at the line.
Speaker 1: Give me an over. I think he's about fifteen.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna go under.
Speaker 3: I'll say over and say fourteen.
Speaker 1: Okay, So this Landon should be a very interesting question.
Speaker 1: Who finishes second on the team in points per game?
Speaker 2: That is a really interesting question. I could say an
Speaker 2: answer that will be wrong, but I wish would be true.
Speaker 1: I think it's kJ H. I don't know if that
Speaker 1: means ceiling reached, but I think it's going to be
Speaker 1: kJ uh.
Speaker 2: You know, just flame me later. Griffin scores like fourteen
Speaker 2: a game.
Speaker 1: I wish, sir, if the music if Ryland Griffin finishes
Speaker 1: second in scoring, then this team's gonna be so fun.
Speaker 2: It would be fun. But Bill says we can have fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I've definitely done that a few times. That's
Speaker 1: why this drip exists on the board cam Who's second
Speaker 1: is scoring?
Speaker 2: Thing?
Speaker 3: I hate? I hate this. I actually think you are
Speaker 3: right with it being kJ Adams, But I also, yeah,
Speaker 3: you're probably right with kJ Adams. I just I can't
Speaker 3: see I want to say someone like Ryland Griffin.
Speaker 2: I just don't see it.
Speaker 1: Okay, So like this is not a prop, but I
Speaker 1: think there is a I think that the gap between
Speaker 1: Hunter and kJ is closer in scoring than the gap
Speaker 1: between kJ and AJ Store, And that might be lu
Speaker 1: nassy at its finest, but I don't know. That's just
Speaker 1: I think AJ. I think Hunter is gonna have nineteen.
Speaker 1: I think kJ I'll have about fifteen. I think Store
Speaker 1: will be about eleven. I think it's all They're kind
Speaker 1: of all in the same pattern.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's crazy.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think I think there's gonna be games
Speaker 3: where where Griffin goes off and has like twenty points
Speaker 3: and goes five for six for three. But I think
Speaker 3: consistency wise, kJ probably yeah, is gonna be right around
Speaker 3: thirteen fourteen a game.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep.
Speaker 2: I think there's a good chance there's like six players
Speaker 2: between nine and fourteen points.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you're totally right on that, which is
Speaker 1: what makes this really hard. Moving on from scoring, Who's
Speaker 1: finishes second on the team in rebounds, so you are
Speaker 1: you don't have to just we're all assuming Hunter is
Speaker 1: gonna lead, Like if you, for whatever reason, think Hunter
Speaker 1: finishes second. You're allowed to say him. I just figured
Speaker 1: if I asked who's first, that's too easy. Who's second
Speaker 1: in rebounds based on their history? It's not Store, It's
Speaker 1: not kJ.
Speaker 2: I mean it has to be Flory, right.
Speaker 1: Oh you think Flory. If Florri averages more than kJ
Speaker 1: with the season you're predicting Hunter to have, then kJ
Speaker 1: didn't do anything to step forward in that regard.
Speaker 2: This year.
Speaker 1: I have to think it's gonna be better. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: bet on senior kJ. I think it's him same same.
Speaker 1: I have to go Caj here.
Speaker 2: He's got to, right, he has to. He's rebounded okay
Speaker 2: in the exhibitions.
Speaker 1: I do like Flori just having nasty per forty numbers
Speaker 1: saving you on that one cam. That's that doesn't sound
Speaker 1: have bad. I'm not saying that they won't be a
Speaker 1: better team if that's the case, too. Who finishes second
Speaker 1: on the team and assists not Aj Store? You? I
Speaker 1: think it's.
Speaker 2: Wow, No, no, no, kJ Adams.
Speaker 3: Wow, Wow, that's wild. I think it's Zeke Mayo flaming
Speaker 3: hot take. That will not happen whatsoever Hunter Dickinson, because
Speaker 3: he'll be swarmed in the paint and passing.
Speaker 1: That's a really good call. Three very different approaches there.
Speaker 1: So looking forward to seeing it not be one of
Speaker 1: those three players who scores more points overall, Zeke Mayo
Speaker 1: or Ryland Griffin.
Speaker 2: I have to say Rylan.
Speaker 1: Griffin has the higher floorer. He's done it at this level.
Speaker 1: The question is will he get the consistency like, if
Speaker 1: he does, it's him. I don't think it is. Uh
Speaker 1: manh yeah, I think it's Griffin. I that's that's close.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, give me Griffin as well.
Speaker 1: Over under thirteen and a half minutes per game for
Speaker 1: David quit.
Speaker 2: Over it's yeah, easily over.
Speaker 1: Okay, how far do I have to bump this up?
Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna say over too, but I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: an under on this updated line sixteen and a half
Speaker 1: minutes per game under.
Speaker 2: Slide over.
Speaker 3: I think you're probably right, but it would be really
Speaker 3: fun to see him play.
Speaker 1: More and see it's even more fun whenever you start
Speaker 1: trying to do that. You got to average two hundred
Speaker 1: minutes a game as a team, and you start putting
Speaker 1: all that in there. I will say if quit gets
Speaker 1: over that, then that's a good sign. For the Harris
Speaker 1: and kJ not playing every freaking minute. Who plays more
Speaker 1: overall minutes? Shack More or Rakeys pass More?
Speaker 2: Oh, I will go with rakeees see, I think it's Shack.
Speaker 1: I think wow, all right. I think Shaquille Moore is
Speaker 1: gonna be one of Bill Sells faper. Shaquille Moore is
Speaker 1: going to play because he's better at defense. And they're
Speaker 1: gonna have forty points in thirty five minutes. And Ryland
Speaker 1: Griffin will be growing a mustache on the bench from
Speaker 1: not playing because self will insist on the Harris More
Speaker 1: front court or backcourt. Uh, that's going to be Yeah,
Speaker 1: just watch does oh man? Here we go, guys, this
Speaker 1: is even better after after the game we just watched.
Speaker 1: Does Zach Clemens make multiple three pointers this year? It's
Speaker 1: gotta make two?
Speaker 2: Everyone go to your shelters. Two threes.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say whatever, you guys, don't You guys can
Speaker 1: have whatever you want.
Speaker 2: No, sure, why not?
Speaker 3: I think he I think he banks in one and
Speaker 3: then he makes one that makes zero sense when they
Speaker 3: lose by ten points in the round of thirty two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say walk on God,
Speaker 1: Zach Clemens makes one against what UNC wilmingson and then yeah,
Speaker 1: give me whoever they play in the first round. Yeah
Speaker 1: over under ten combined points and rebounds per game, So
Speaker 1: you gotta have whatever the points per game and rebounds
Speaker 1: game if they average six and four at works got
Speaker 1: to get to ten for Florri Badunga.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, Yeah, I just I say Cam kind of
Speaker 2: has right around where he's gonna hover.
Speaker 1: I well, really see, I don't. I think Clements is
Speaker 1: gonna play way more than we think. Oh gosh, and
Speaker 1: I think Hunter is gonna play way more than well, Sarah,
Speaker 1: have you met bill self?
Speaker 2: He will make it to like January and this is happening.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get better help Therapy to sponsor the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's the I should have kept their number
Speaker 1: from all the years that we watched Landon Lucas and
Speaker 1: uh Jamari Traylor play over future lottery pick that absolutely
Speaker 1: is gonna be upstud in the NBA. Shacked Yallo right
Speaker 1: two shek Dallow references in one podcast that's been a while.
Speaker 1: Who leads Kansas in free throw percentage? They have to
Speaker 1: take at least twenty shots, so justin cross going two
Speaker 1: for two does not count twenty free throw attempts.
Speaker 3: I think it might be Dewan Harris, okay, Zeke, Zeke.
Speaker 1: Mayo AJ Store was an eighty two percent free throw
Speaker 1: shooter at Wisconsin. But I yeah, really, I see. I
Speaker 1: think it's Zeke Mayo. I'll say that. I think Harris
Speaker 1: is good.
Speaker 2: Fine, fine, you cowarded me into keeping the pick. I'll
Speaker 2: take Zeke.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be store, and we're all gonna store. Will
Speaker 1: not will not do much of anything compared to expectations,
Speaker 1: but it'll be a good free throw shooter, which is fine.
Speaker 1: That counts. By the way, over under six different players
Speaker 1: actually no, h yeah, over under six and a half.
Speaker 1: So the over would be seven different players start a game,
Speaker 1: and it does not count if they start on senior night,
Speaker 1: like just a by the way, senior night start doesn't
Speaker 1: start seven over under six and a half different players
Speaker 1: start a game. I think it's over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's over.
Speaker 1: You would would you all abandon ship? If I made
Speaker 1: it seven and a half? You think seven and eight's
Speaker 1: the deal breaker? Because I'll say over on seven and
Speaker 1: a half, okay, I'll say over under seven and a half.
Speaker 1: I think that koit's gonna start. I think, uh, well,
Speaker 1: who would that be? Who is that? Who would that be?
Speaker 1: At this point? And injuries count, right, someone's gonna get hurt.
Speaker 1: Koit's gonna start, and Griffin's gonna start at some point
Speaker 1: they'll start a game. Am I crazy? You think Digginson
Speaker 1: starts them all his foot? It doesn't feel too good
Speaker 1: right now, it has to be.
Speaker 3: I just it's hard for me to see Billsof starting
Speaker 3: eight guys in the span of sea in a season.
Speaker 2: I don't know why which is hard.
Speaker 1: I'll go over and hope I'm wrong, because we have
Speaker 1: five guys that just take the ground and run with
Speaker 1: it from the start. Does Hunter Digginson score it thirty
Speaker 1: points at least once this year?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes? Okay?
Speaker 1: How high do I have to get it?
Speaker 2: Thirty two?
Speaker 1: Does he score thirty two this year? I think yes,
Speaker 1: thirty three?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Sure, all right, give me a number. What's the highest?
Speaker 1: You go.
Speaker 2: He's going to score thirty five? Oh?
Speaker 1: Really? So if I made it thirty five, you'd both
Speaker 1: say yes, I guess. So this is the same guy
Speaker 1: that Bill said's gonna play less. Okay, all right, I'll
Speaker 1: make it thirty four. You I'll make it thirty three.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling generous, and I will say he does not.
Speaker 1: I will say he does not make thirty three. So
Speaker 1: you guys have a little bit of a cushion there.
Speaker 1: Who has the highest scoring game of the season for
Speaker 1: Kansas excluding Dickinson.
Speaker 2: I do kind of think you have like one, either
Speaker 2: Zeke Mayo or Ryland Griffin game where they hit thirty.
Speaker 1: Griffin's the best bet I'll go with.
Speaker 2: I'll go with Ryland Griffin.
Speaker 1: I want to say CAJ but he doesn't make three,
Speaker 1: so it's and he doesn't really make free throws, so
Speaker 1: it's so much harder for him to get there.
Speaker 2: I mean, kJ can make ten times.
Speaker 1: kJ could make ten baskets in a free throw and
Speaker 1: that's the same as Ryland Griffin making like six threes
Speaker 1: in a couple of buckets. Like, Okay, you guys aren't
Speaker 1: ready for this. I'm gonna say it's the one Harris.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sayd one. Harris has one.
Speaker 2: I considered him, he was he was my third option.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna say he has one, Like twenty seven. Wow,
Speaker 1: I didn't know you could do that. Where the hell's
Speaker 1: that been? The last four years sort of game. It
Speaker 1: kind of saw it against Arkansas. Does Kansas lose at
Speaker 1: least one game to a team that finishes in tenth
Speaker 1: place or worse in the final Big twelve standings?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, every year.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me make it. Let me see how bad
Speaker 1: I can make it. Twelve bottom five teams. Do they
Speaker 1: lose to one of them?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably so I'm gonna say no on that one. No.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that they take care of their business.
Speaker 1: Sir at Utah on a Tuesday night, No chance that
Speaker 1: bites him in the rear end, No chance who leads
Speaker 1: the team in total three point makes we all know
Speaker 1: what we want to say.
Speaker 2: I think it's maybe easy.
Speaker 3: Really yeah, really.
Speaker 1: You don't think it's Griffin, I will say, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's that close. I think he's gonna make
Speaker 1: like I think Ryland Griffin will make like eighty or
Speaker 1: ninety threes. It'll be feel like, well, well he should,
Speaker 1: he should if he's allowed to play. We will see
Speaker 1: predict the round Kansas reaches their final round in the
Speaker 1: NCAA tournament, I will say, final four, yeah, final four, yeah,
Speaker 1: play the music, Final four? Yeah? What could go wrong?
Speaker 1: Over under fourteen and a half conference wins.
Speaker 2: Out of twenty mind you, yeah, correct over on fourteen
Speaker 2: and a half? Yeah, give me over fifteen.
Speaker 1: Okay, so if I made it fifteen and a half,
Speaker 1: you'd say that that gets you to both flip.
Speaker 2: I think it's fifteen, So I guess under.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say under under whatever, screw it, they get
Speaker 1: to sixteen. Do they want to share the Big Twelve?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes?
Speaker 1: Do they reach at least the finals of the Big
Speaker 1: twelve tournament? They have a one one of these in
Speaker 1: a long time. I'll say they sure. Why No, I
Speaker 1: hadn't always getting that right because he's the only one
Speaker 1: that ever says no over under six and a half
Speaker 1: wins in the first seven basketball games they played the
Speaker 1: month of November. That's Michigan State, Duke and North Carolina
Speaker 1: mixed in with four cupcakes. What Furman, Wilmington, Howard, and.
Speaker 2: Oakland. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'll say they win them all.
Speaker 2: Screw it. I think they take.
Speaker 3: Give me the yeah, give me the over. But I
Speaker 3: am a little worried about North Carolina, even though it's
Speaker 3: at home.
Speaker 1: I don't the only thing if Dickinson plays against North Carolina,
Speaker 1: I think they're fine. Because I don't think UNC's front
Speaker 1: court is nearly what it was when Bacott was there.
Speaker 1: But if Dickinson doesn't play and we got the Zach
Speaker 1: Clements experience trying to in Flora Vedonga, trying to stop
Speaker 1: our J Davis in the paint, then it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a little different. Yeah, all right. There are I believe
Speaker 1: twelve road games on the schedule. That is ten conference
Speaker 1: games plus Creighton and Missouri. Do they win at least
Speaker 1: eight of them? Yes?
Speaker 2: I didn't hear the number you cut out eight.
Speaker 1: Do they win at least eight road games out of twelve?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And their confidence is palpable, folks. Is the Missouri game
Speaker 1: decided by eight or fewer points?
Speaker 2: No? Really, I think it is. Actually yeah, I think
Speaker 2: this is the one that's actually closed. I still think
Speaker 2: Kansas wins.
Speaker 1: It's the most likely one to be close. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they'll win. But I always get this one wrong.
Speaker 1: Last year it was eight, and well like Missouri was
Speaker 1: awful last year and they're building this year. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: closed as landon laughs. Do they lose a home.
Speaker 2: Game by math? Yes? They do.
Speaker 1: I say no, I say they run, though I think
Speaker 1: they run the table.
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me, give me undefeated at home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've said that so many years in a row,
Speaker 1: and it's just an annual l for me on this.
Speaker 1: But we'll roll with that. And I lie. There are
Speaker 1: thirty one, not thirty. Oh the last one over under
Speaker 1: twenty and a half total points for the walk on
Speaker 1: unit does not include that clements.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's gotta be under this year.
Speaker 1: Really, see, I think it's over. I think they're just
Speaker 1: stampeding some of these teams. I say, the walk on
Speaker 1: is getting to the twenty scirt whatever. All right, that's
Speaker 1: your that's your prop bets. I feel like this is
Speaker 1: pretty good.
Speaker 2: Like those.
Speaker 1: I feel like that those are all kind of painful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like them. Yeah. I actually had to think
Speaker 2: a little bit, which is scary at.
Speaker 1: Least a little bit, just like Landon when he said this, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's talk about ask rcp uh Cam. I saw you
Speaker 1: in the mentions responding to some of these tweets. I
Speaker 1: like how you are in Okay, I'll find it whenever
Speaker 1: I get there. There are twelve today and these were
Speaker 1: posted before the Washburn game, when the tension was at
Speaker 1: an all time high. And so now we'll see if
Speaker 1: things are a little bit better at Kate Eden fourteen, Uh,
Speaker 1: shooting and spacing is badly needed. Will Ryland Griffin start
Speaker 1: over Adams to begin the air no? Or how long
Speaker 1: will it take until self starts him? My answer to
Speaker 1: that is, uh, laughs in laughs with tears sound effect.
Speaker 1: He should? He should.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's the correct answer, though, Ruyn.
Speaker 1: Are we sure that kJ? Are we sure that kJ
Speaker 1: should be the one that doesn't start?
Speaker 2: I think schematically it makes sense because I.
Speaker 1: Think you can argue that they should start Griffin Overstore
Speaker 1: because of performance, and Griffin over Adams because of schematic fit.
Speaker 2: Or you go Harris koit mayo Griffin kJ and we
Speaker 2: just run and dunk forever, which I think you start
Speaker 2: all five Zach Clemens's.
Speaker 1: Which most of those lineups would work fine if they
Speaker 1: run into Washburn in the twenty twenty five NCAA tournament,
Speaker 1: But I don't know. Zach Clemens didn't score against Washburn
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four to twenty five at Ryan underscore Landrad.
Speaker 1: Have you guys seen Iowa States basketball schedule, because oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, is it total?
Speaker 2: Who's in? I have not, but I'm gonna look it.
Speaker 1: Up all right, here it is. Here are their opponents.
Speaker 1: Mississippi Valley State tickets for four dollars, Kansas City Ruise
Speaker 1: tickets for three dollars, Indianapolis University of Indiana tickets as
Speaker 1: low as three dollars i.
Speaker 2: U p U I.
Speaker 1: Then they play Auburn and Marquette in back to back
Speaker 1: games that are both preseason top twenty teams. They didn't
Speaker 1: schedule either of those teams, by the way, those were
Speaker 1: challenges by the league. Then they resume with Jackson State
Speaker 1: four dollar tickets at Iowa Caitlin Clark's not playing, so
Speaker 1: it won't be hard, Omaha six dollars tickets, Morgan State
Speaker 1: seven dollar tickets. Then they start Big twelve play, Like,
Speaker 1: how much is that athletic department shelling out for by games?
Speaker 2: I mean charging seven dollars ticket.
Speaker 3: You know it's bad when the top story when you
Speaker 3: search Iowa State basketball is from two four to seven
Speaker 3: sports and it's the methodology in Iowa State's basketball schedule.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean last merchants. Yeah, last year there were
Speaker 1: great in the net, but they didn't get the one
Speaker 1: seed that a lot of people thought they deserved in
Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament because their non conference schedule was buns
Speaker 1: and so they went out there and doubled down this
Speaker 1: year as I still have Fox four News on after
Speaker 1: the World Series and the top story on tonight's news
Speaker 1: is developing tree falls on children. It must have happened
Speaker 1: because one of Zach Clements's three balls in practice been
Speaker 1: a little crazy and it hit one of those loose trees,
Speaker 1: and well, you know what happens. Sometimes sometimes there's a
Speaker 1: kid standing underneath it. Ouch at Kujhawks Underscore fan, not
Speaker 1: much review about the Arkansas game or is there Nah?
Speaker 1: It happens. Man. They didn't have Hunter Dickinson that game,
Speaker 1: and I think it said more about Arkansas than Kansas.
Speaker 1: I think Arkansas should get top ten, if not top
Speaker 1: five votes after that game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, agree, it's early.
Speaker 1: All right, let's ask, let's answer some of these questions
Speaker 1: about Hunter Dickinson's foot, because that is a very very
Speaker 1: righteous concern I think at Bernergoff eighteen zero zero two,
Speaker 1: how concerned are you about Hunter Dickinson's injury?
Speaker 2: Me?
Speaker 1: Terrified. I don't like the sound of it. Could it
Speaker 1: wind up being a big nothing burger? Yes? Is it
Speaker 1: more likely to be nothing than something, probably so, but
Speaker 1: how many times have we seen this? The day to
Speaker 1: day thing? We know how one turns into two if
Speaker 1: he's not in uniform and playing a healthy amount of
Speaker 1: minutes against Howard, I am concerned. I don't care who
Speaker 1: they could beat without him. That is the most important
Speaker 1: player to their team, arguably of anybody in college basketball
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 2: I do think if if he doesn't play against Howard,
Speaker 2: the caution light goes from yellow to orange, and if
Speaker 2: he doesn't play against North Carolina, it goes to a blinking,
Speaker 2: screaming red.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's if he doesn't If he doesn't play against
Speaker 3: North Carolina, I'll be unresponsive on the floor.
Speaker 2: So I lit'tle worried.
Speaker 1: Why Landon, are you not worried if he doesn't play
Speaker 1: against Howard? If he's missing regular season basketball games in
Speaker 1: a Nasmith.
Speaker 2: Campaign like there's there, it's it's a glorified exhibition. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it would be notably like it would be notable. I
Speaker 2: should say it would be a step worse than not
Speaker 2: playing exhibitions. But it's Howard. It's it's a team that
Speaker 2: you still should beat by like twenty five without him.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm not super worried because I could see
Speaker 2: if for whatever reason, if it's not a one healed thing,
Speaker 2: give him as much time as he needs in games
Speaker 2: that you will win. The North Carolina one is not
Speaker 2: a guarantee like that, even though is at home. I
Speaker 2: think Kansas should beat North Carolina, probably with or without
Speaker 2: Hunter Dickinson. But if he sits a game like that,
Speaker 2: that's when I truly smashed the panic button.
Speaker 1: I think that's right in premise, if you are blind
Speaker 1: to the history of Kansas basketball, I think that's a
Speaker 1: fair opinion. But I've just seen way too many Oh,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna hold him out against this team. Remember
Speaker 1: last year, they're like Kevin McCuller knee kind of hurts.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna play against Oklahoma State because they're like,
Speaker 1: oh to six, So like, we'll be fine, and look
Speaker 1: what happened. Like I don't know. I think regular season
Speaker 1: basketball games, especially from a Bill seth.
Speaker 2: A conference game in Howard.
Speaker 1: But especially when you're Bill self and you play Dwan
Speaker 1: Harris thirty seven minutes a game. Whenever you're up by
Speaker 1: sixty at the end of the Howard game, he's still
Speaker 1: out there. Like I think that Bill self he does
Speaker 1: not believe in resting players. He does not believe in
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. If he's not playing Hunter Dickinson.
Speaker 1: I don't think the at least not publicly. I don't
Speaker 1: think the opponent matters nearly as much as some people
Speaker 1: think it does when it comes to holding people out
Speaker 1: of regular season games. These games count. They they're gonna
Speaker 1: be out there, So I hope he does at C
Speaker 1: Underscore Wayne's world does pass morning consideration for serious playing time.
Speaker 1: He looks the part. He didn't look very games Washburn.
Speaker 1: This is coming off the Arkansas game. You guys think
Speaker 1: he plays more than shack More though, which means that
Speaker 1: you think that it's him and Zeke Mayo playing the
Speaker 1: the two and backing up to one. Harris.
Speaker 2: I think pass Moore has a chance to play some.
Speaker 2: I don't think he'll play a ton. Maybe maybe I'm
Speaker 2: just totally blanking on shack More being a good player.
Speaker 2: Maybe he'll be really solid. I think pass More will
Speaker 2: play some.
Speaker 1: I mean shack Moore will play a little bit.
Speaker 3: He's gonna be He's gonna be one of those guys
Speaker 3: that'll have spurs. So it would be like, why does
Speaker 3: he playablere and then he'll also do things you're like,
Speaker 3: that's exactly why, So yeah, we have it.
Speaker 2: I think that's great. I think he'll try him out
Speaker 2: there against like Oakland or something, and he'll have like
Speaker 2: ten and five and like wow, or he's passing, like
Speaker 2: this guy's amazing. And then the next game against a
Speaker 2: real team, he'll which Oakland's a real team.
Speaker 1: But he'll be the guy that yet at easy.
Speaker 2: Go with him physically and he'll do nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll put him out against Creighton and he'll immediately
Speaker 1: launch a three that will miss badly, and self will
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, that's enough for you the rest of
Speaker 1: the night. Yeah, we've seen that more and more times
Speaker 1: than we have it. I also just think that he
Speaker 1: is Shaquille Moore is a guy who was a starter
Speaker 1: on a power league team in Mississippi State. I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna play more than a freshman in bill selves offense.
Speaker 1: But maybe the injury, maybe it never gets off the ground.
Speaker 1: That sucks to be in a walking boot at Elliott
Speaker 1: ruson h cam. How does it feel to maybe be right?
Speaker 1: I assume this is about the Hunter Dickinson foot cam.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be right a few times, at least I
Speaker 1: hope on this podcast. I certainly hope the first time
Speaker 1: you're right isn't about Hunter Dickinson's foot being cursed.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Have you guys seen the movie twenty twelve?
Speaker 1: Yes? I have.
Speaker 3: Long you guys remember the guy you guys, remember the
Speaker 3: guy that like predicted the end of the world and
Speaker 3: then he's like out in the wilderness as the volcanoes
Speaker 3: ro Harlson.
Speaker 1: What Harrelson is that is you? I guess in this scenario.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it gets like firebomb and dies. That's
Speaker 3: kind of how it feels.
Speaker 1: That movie is so ass I was so excited to
Speaker 1: watch that movie. It came out like two thousand and nine,
Speaker 1: and it like that was a thing. The twenty twelfth
Speaker 1: Day was like, oh my gosh, this is gonna happen.
Speaker 1: And it was like three hours long, and the Earth
Speaker 1: doesn't even end. It just ends with like the arc
Speaker 1: arriving and like the calendars like year one. That's not
Speaker 1: how it works.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you guys remember there was a Twitter account
Speaker 3: called the Mayan Apocalypse and it had one tweet and
Speaker 3: it was on twenty on that day, on twenty twelve,
Speaker 3: and it just goes Sorry, running.
Speaker 2: A bit late.
Speaker 1: I do kind of remember that. That was when Twitter
Speaker 1: was good.
Speaker 2: It's it's Twitter name was like at kaboom with like
Speaker 2: ten O's we need to go back good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well tell Elon, well at the Wheel Reel too,
Speaker 1: y'all tried the Wheel pizza. I need to give the
Speaker 1: Wheel Reel to his kudos because he actually got me
Speaker 1: to tweet out his Rock Chalk blog a report that
Speaker 1: Doug McDaniel is too stupid to play basketball at Kansas
Speaker 1: State because GBA's too low. So you got me on
Speaker 1: that one, buddy. I've never been to the Wheel.
Speaker 2: I've been there, but I didn't eat.
Speaker 1: Is it good? Like? Is the is the vibe good?
Speaker 2: It was fine?
Speaker 3: I mean it was It was after I think it
Speaker 3: was after the Villanova game in like twenty eighteen. I
Speaker 3: was with my dad, so we were just kind of
Speaker 3: hanging out.
Speaker 2: But it was cool. It was different.
Speaker 1: Landon, have you been to the Wheel? You're kind of
Speaker 1: a bar guy, aren't you, like like like kind of
Speaker 1: a night life kind of guy. Aren't you more than
Speaker 1: like you were when you were homeschooled?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, No, I haven't been to the to the Wheel.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be opposed, I'd.
Speaker 1: Go, all right, well there you go. At some point,
Speaker 1: somebody take Landon to the wheel maybe if maybe we'll
Speaker 1: let him, like we'll do a contest. If Landon wins
Speaker 1: pick them, he'll get to take one of our listeners
Speaker 1: to the wheel. None of you volunteer because Landon doesn't win.
Speaker 1: Pick them in case you're new here won't be needed
Speaker 1: at let's see here at olr Casey Turkey or Ham
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3: Ham baby, Oh, I think the correct take is him,
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna say Turkey because I haven't had ham
Speaker 3: in a while.
Speaker 1: That's the answer. Ham is better than turkey. But you
Speaker 1: have turkey on Thanksgiving. It's just what you do. It's
Speaker 1: one of those things that we're never going to shake
Speaker 1: like that. There are so many things in society that
Speaker 1: we do even though we really shouldn't. Uh, And that's
Speaker 1: that's one of them. Turkey is worse than ham.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: What is you, guys, is do either one of you
Speaker 1: have like a bizarro holiday meal tradition, like like some
Speaker 1: people have like freaking pizza on Christmas and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: You guys have like a tradition that you do that
Speaker 1: would make everybody else.
Speaker 2: Go huh for food specifically, Oh.
Speaker 1: Is there? Yes?
Speaker 2: I meant it makes it sounds like there's nothing else,
Speaker 2: but I don't there's anything else shocking. I know. I'm
Speaker 2: a very strange man, not the most normal person in
Speaker 2: the world.
Speaker 1: That's fair.
Speaker 2: I used to do uh.
Speaker 3: I would have pizza with my dad on Christmas even
Speaker 3: than we watch ye A Christmas Story back in the day.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I am here we go, cam. You
Speaker 1: have no idea what you just did. A Christmas Story
Speaker 1: is one of my five favorite movies. I've watched it.
Speaker 1: I if you put it on mute, I could do
Speaker 1: the script. Really, every single word of that of that
Speaker 1: amazing movie that is based on an amazing book. And God,
Speaker 1: we trust all others pay cash based on a book
Speaker 1: was very funny, very amazing movie. I have two leg
Speaker 1: lamps in my house. Actually one is on my desk.
Speaker 1: I'm touching the gleaming sex in the window leg lamp here.
Speaker 2: I'm I know.
Speaker 1: So it's great.
Speaker 3: Some people, some people watch that movie on Charter spectrum.
Speaker 3: Ryan is on the spectrum.
Speaker 1: And therefore I remember every word of A Christmas Story
Speaker 1: right like it all fits there.
Speaker 2: You couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: About it Landon, and you, on the other hand, think
Speaker 1: that movie sucks.
Speaker 2: I watched it for the first time, like all the
Speaker 2: way through two or three years ago, and the first
Speaker 2: time I actually really enjoyed it. I thought it was funny.
Speaker 2: I had a good time with it. And then the
Speaker 2: second time I decided to sit down and watch it,
Speaker 2: either last year maybe two years ago, just dreadful, just
Speaker 2: not built. I thought. The second time, it just everything
Speaker 2: about it, like the the the utter, sheer, raw annoyance
Speaker 2: that I felt watching that movie hit me. Hit me
Speaker 2: like a ton of bricks, like a wave crashing in
Speaker 2: the ocean. Yeah, this is very bad, sad loss.
Speaker 1: I grew up just thinking that if you plug two
Speaker 1: things into the same outlet, that fuses could blow and
Speaker 1: that the whole house will just be plunged into darkness.
Speaker 1: I didn't know how that worked, and I now I do.
Speaker 1: And also I grew up thinking that whenever you change
Speaker 1: a flat tire, if you let the bolts go, you
Speaker 1: have to say a very naughty word that Bill self
Speaker 1: said to a reporter once. If I recall great, great
Speaker 1: sound effect, I need to clip. That is what I do.
Speaker 1: A couple more here at show me hawk, this will
Speaker 1: get us on our on our on our happy pats.
Speaker 1: Kansas football has been a disaster this year oh and
Speaker 1: five and one score games and lots of senior talent
Speaker 1: leaving this offseason. Do we have any reason to believe
Speaker 1: Kansas football would be good in twenty twenty five? And
Speaker 1: there's the one can reply to with bugs Bunny going
Speaker 1: no in gift mode on reading.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, yeah, no, there's not a single reason,
Speaker 2: not one, not one reason they.
Speaker 1: Might be better than they are this year by record,
Speaker 1: just because are you watching how it's going? Oh?
Speaker 2: Somebody did next year's on oh to twelve watch is
Speaker 2: my prediction.
Speaker 1: The Cole Ballard era is gonna be gonna be more
Speaker 1: fun at Preston Skerson. Has Cal gotten more likable over
Speaker 1: the years since he's at Arkansas, especially now, Yes he has.
Speaker 1: We've always liked Cali Perry on this podcast after very
Speaker 1: much so not liking him around the time we started it,
Speaker 1: And yes, I like. I think he's great, good for
Speaker 1: the sport at Cal.
Speaker 2: I think Cal's an overrated coach now, but I think
Speaker 2: he is good.
Speaker 1: He's Landa thinks he's washed. Cam and I both think
Speaker 1: he wins one of the next like four or five
Speaker 1: national titles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's built for it.
Speaker 3: He he was doing nil before nil was a thing,
Speaker 3: so was Bill. Shout out to Bill. But I think
Speaker 3: he's built for the nil era. He's gonna win a
Speaker 3: title in the next five years.
Speaker 1: At k tweets and news Well, kJ Adams ever seen
Speaker 1: minutes at the five with Badonga in the fold? No,
Speaker 1: he won't, And like I know, we're growing, but Clements
Speaker 1: is here too. Like kJ is never gonna play at the.
Speaker 2: Five, which is kind of a shame because I think
Speaker 2: I'd rather see him play a little five than the four. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if he plays at the five, something went really wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, correct at Blue Blood's Blue bottom line as Aver
Speaker 1: exhibition games aren't real. I don't believe Kansas is actually
Speaker 1: twenty points worse than Arkansas. It's Gonzaga lost to USC
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah that is true, there's a little and
Speaker 1: I don't think Arizona State is sixty points worse than
Speaker 1: Duke as they showed him that talked about how they
Speaker 1: need to improve with the ball screen d but overall
Speaker 1: not a whole lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I always saw that get shinier against Washburn and the
Speaker 1: last question from Boom and Frosty. Even with the one scoring,
Speaker 1: I still think we have a better option at point
Speaker 1: guard on this team. If you could pick one, who
Speaker 1: would you start in his place? And what would Dewan's
Speaker 1: role be?
Speaker 2: Sensitive topic? I do think Dewan grades out as like
Speaker 2: a pretty traditional backup point guard, like a guy who's
Speaker 2: gonna play pretty tough d won't make a ton of
Speaker 2: mistakes and can hit an occasional shot. Yeah, he reminds
Speaker 2: me of Russell Robinson. Has anyone ever made that comparison? Yeah,
Speaker 2: he is.
Speaker 1: That's not too bad. And Russell Robinson was never the
Speaker 1: primary point guard, right He played alongside Mario and they
Speaker 1: had Sharon, And therefore I think Russell Robinson was remembered
Speaker 1: as being the defensive specialist who could hit an occasional
Speaker 1: shot but wasn't asked to do too much. If he
Speaker 1: had been asked to do more, it never would have
Speaker 1: really worked. And look at what they asked. Look what
Speaker 1: they asked the one Harris to do. It doesn't always work.
Speaker 1: That's really not the worst comparison, it's actually pretty good one.
Speaker 1: I think Harris is the best point guard on this roster.
Speaker 1: But I would start Zeke Mayo if I had to
Speaker 1: start somebody else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the answer. I agree.
Speaker 1: If you ever have asked. GARCBS used the Twitter hashtag
Speaker 1: landon why don't you like pizza Street. We'll get to
Speaker 1: that all right. Now, you get a preview a game,
Speaker 1: Camus is your very first game on IP. It's very exciting. Well,
Speaker 1: actually your first game was the Arkansas game. But we're
Speaker 1: just gonna pretend that that one didn't count because that
Speaker 1: wasn't a great start, and the history book show it didn't.
Speaker 1: Howard at number one Kansas on Monday, November fourth, that is,
Speaker 1: one night before the election, at seven o'clock on ESPN plus,
Speaker 1: ESPN plus. Almost as toxic as this election is, Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris is Howard Bison of the MEAC. You guys may
Speaker 1: remember how Howard losing to Kansas by a million in
Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament, only to be told that they quote
Speaker 1: did so good by Kamala Harris in the locker room
Speaker 1: right after the game ended, and everybody there looked like
Speaker 1: they wanted to leap to their deaths. Howard was eighteen
Speaker 1: and seventeen last year. Oh go ahead, cam I'll never
Speaker 1: I'll never stop you with I was.
Speaker 3: Just gonna say, in contrary to what they were told,
Speaker 3: they could not unburden what had been done in that game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's gonna be a real fun year. I
Speaker 1: can tell. They were eighteen, Howard was eighteen and seventeen.
Speaker 1: Last year they finished second in their conference. They lost
Speaker 1: a playing game to Wagner in the NCAA tournament in
Speaker 1: a game that you guys didn't remember because I'm not
Speaker 1: sure it actually happened.
Speaker 3: Defind I just became privy to this now, yep.
Speaker 1: And you also can become not pervy, almost said pervy.
Speaker 1: Don't do that, don't.
Speaker 2: You can pervy?
Speaker 1: You can also become You can also become acquainted to
Speaker 1: filling in Knick's role here in the Ryan Land and
Speaker 1: Cam order of paragraphs when we do this. And Nick
Speaker 1: was great at a lot of things, but remembering that
Speaker 1: three step sequence was not one of them. I had
Speaker 1: to edit out a lot of pauses over the years
Speaker 1: because he would just forget that he was supposed to
Speaker 1: read paragraphs. Let's see if we can do better, and
Speaker 1: the new era of itp Land and tell me about
Speaker 1: who plays for Howard?
Speaker 2: Uh No, it was hard enough to do this for
Speaker 2: the first game. Now with the transfer portal, no one
Speaker 2: knows who plays where. Last year, Howard got to the
Speaker 2: free throw line a lot and played a very slow pace.
Speaker 2: They've also been a top sixty three point shooting team
Speaker 2: in three consecutive years, so it's probably gonna be about that.
Speaker 2: It's probably gonna be trying to draw fouls, slow the
Speaker 2: game down, but take a lot of threes while doing it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and now that I just added in an awkward pause,
Speaker 3: I will continue the tradition of Nick whipert as I
Speaker 3: was for some type of introduction. I did not actually,
Speaker 3: you know, I really did not do that on purpose.
Speaker 3: That was just really poor podcasting. Kansas has played Howard twice.
Speaker 2: It is the same level of podcasting. I'm just keeping
Speaker 2: up with the tradition. Kansas has played Howard twice.
Speaker 3: They beat them by twenty eight in the first round
Speaker 3: of the twenty twenty three NCAA Tournament, and then in
Speaker 3: twenty eleven, the Jayhawks beat them by an impossible eighty
Speaker 3: nine to thirty four score. Here is the box score
Speaker 3: of that game, which I was not supposed to read
Speaker 3: out loud inside the paint.
Speaker 2: We do quality podcasting and in that game.
Speaker 1: In which Kansas beat Howard by an apocalyptic fifty five points,
Speaker 1: they only had two players reached double digit scoring. Oh, actually,
Speaker 1: I didn't see Connor tn Way down there on the bench.
Speaker 1: He scored thirteen. They had. Their leading score was thirteen
Speaker 1: in a game they won by fifty five, Howard's best player.
Speaker 1: Howard had one player score more than five points.
Speaker 2: Not a good game there. I don't think this one's
Speaker 2: gonna be that bad, but it's gonna be a win
Speaker 2: by a lot for Kansas. Give me Kansas eighty six
Speaker 2: to fifty.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, give me a Kansas ninety Howard sixty three.
Speaker 3: Bill Soff says, we didn't guard anybody, and then we
Speaker 3: go play a better game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that feels right. If Digginson plays. I like Kansas
Speaker 1: to hit one hundred in this game. I just watched
Speaker 1: an offense that I don't think can be stopped by Howard.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Kansas scores one hundred, one hundred and
Speaker 1: two to sixty five and blow out over the Bison
Speaker 1: in the season opener. And these games count for real now,
Speaker 1: both for the Jayhawks and for us, and pick them.
Speaker 1: No pressure, boys, but it's a pretty soft opening week,
Speaker 1: so you get a few layups, and then there's a
Speaker 1: couple of actual competitive games. The best game from this
Speaker 1: week is set to be number eight Baylor at number
Speaker 1: six Gonzaga in a rematch of a couple seasons ages
Speaker 1: blowout national championship game. They will play on Monday at
Speaker 1: ten thirty pm. Good for you at college basketball making
Speaker 1: sure that the scheduling windows are great for your marquee games.
Speaker 1: That eleven thirty East Coast tip off for the only
Speaker 1: game between ranked fos in the first week of the year.
Speaker 1: I want to say Baylor wins because we've seen this
Speaker 1: matchup before, but I think in Zag is actually really
Speaker 1: good this year. I will take the Bulldogs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in Spokane, I agree. I will also take the Bulldogs.
Speaker 1: And then number nineteen Texas kicks off their sec ERA
Speaker 1: by going into Vegas and playing Ohio State. I don't
Speaker 1: know why this game's happening or why they're opening, they
Speaker 1: just are. I think Texas is a is a force
Speaker 1: to be reckoned with until Rodney Terry remembers how to coach.
Speaker 1: I will say that they beat the Buckeyes.
Speaker 2: Uh give me Ohio State. Wow.
Speaker 3: I will also say that Texas beats the Buckeyes and
Speaker 3: shout out to fad Mada. I'm sure he's selling insurance
Speaker 3: by now.
Speaker 1: I fad Moda is coaching somewhere. He's at Butler, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's at basically the same thing.
Speaker 1: But he did take like a four year hiatus, so
Speaker 1: he probably was selling farmers insurance at that point and
Speaker 1: then he got he got hired because there's so many
Speaker 1: freaking coaching jobs out there. And then you guys can
Speaker 1: have a couple of layups. Maine at number seven, Koop Flag,
Speaker 1: I think that Duke squeaks one out on their home floor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Cooper Flagg has a chance to score
Speaker 2: mains points. Yeah, Duke by seven.
Speaker 1: And then I was going to give you guys Houston
Speaker 1: and Jackson State, but instead a night before a very
Speaker 1: important night for the man, Elon Musk will go into
Speaker 1: Chapel Hill and play number nine North Carolina. I don't
Speaker 1: think it matters which game we pick. Have your free
Speaker 1: pickham point. Here's your Mario Gold sound effects for just
Speaker 1: going into your bag.
Speaker 2: The team that you've heard of, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's the team that you've heard of. So at this
Speaker 1: point you guys should have three in the bag for Pickham,
Speaker 1: and then we'll see Landon will start off by being
Speaker 1: one game behind everybody else. That's kind of what happens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well then that will never end poorly, all right, So
Speaker 1: we will do a show at some point in the
Speaker 1: middle of the next week after we have an actual
Speaker 1: game to recap whenever we're morning hunter Dickinson's setback that
Speaker 1: he suffers whenever Bill Selp throws him out there up
Speaker 1: eighty five to forty with three minutes left against Howard,
Speaker 1: and then they'll get ready for the tar Heels of
Speaker 1: North Carolina, one of the most anticipated games in the
Speaker 1: history of allan Fieldhouse. But until then, you've made it
Speaker 1: through two shows. Cam, you're doing great. This is inside
Speaker 1: the paint a Rock, Chuck flog on maryan.
Speaker 2: Land and I'm Camlpool. I'm Landing Field.
Speaker 1: All right, everybody behave yourself.
Speaker 2: Bye, Zach Clements