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welcome back to the program. Stacy Matthews, writer over at
RedState dot com. She writes under the numb diplume of
sister told you. Welcome Stacy. How are you today, Hey.
Speaker 3: Pete, good to be on. There's so much to talk
about it.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I've been looking at your page, your author
page or whatever it's called on the red state dot
com site, and it seems like you've had some material.
Speaker 4: It's been a target rich environment.
Speaker 2: I see you've also got one that just posted up
today regarding uh an old story UH that is related
to the new developments that people are talking about from
this book Original Sin and the you know, Biden's cognitive decline.
But I guess like when you heard all of this,
your mind went to cocaine, right, so like.
Speaker 4: What what so?
Speaker 2: And I thought I had not even considered this, so uh,
but you're you're now what rethinking? Some earlier tales of
cocaine in the White House?
Speaker 3: Well, we reported at the site. My colleague Banchi actually
wrote the first story about it. There's so much coming
out from the new book from Jake Papper and Alex
Thompson's original Sin that came out officially on Tuesday, and
one of the things that they reported was that Hunter Biden,
in the last two years of Joe Biden's presidency was
pulling a lot more strings than we previously knew. Of course,
we knew ahead of time that he had even been
and allegedly accompanying him into classified meetings, but it's actually,
according to Jake Tapper, he was almost like the chief
of staff for Biden in the last two years. And
the whole revelation of that information, it's got people kind
of revisiting the twenty twenty three Summer twenty twenty three
cocaine incident where cocaine was found at the White House
and we were told it was in various places. They
told us it was in one place and would tell
us it was another place. And the Secret Service investigation
from that said that they never could determine who actually
brought it in because there were so many people that
came and went from the White House. Well, with this
revelation about Hunter Biden and pulling strings and actually kind
of being more in power than we knew at the
Biden White House the last two years Biden was in office,
this really kind of makes you revisit that and think, well,
I think we really know this time, you know who
it was who actually brought the cocaine in. I mean,
it's funny on one hand, but it's not funny on
the other hand because it just goes to show that
there's been so many more cover ups in the White
House that the media under reported or did not report
at all. And at the time we all talked about
it and speculated that it was Hunter Biden. But I
think this is kind of the cherry on top for
that story. I think it almost pretty much confirmed that
Hunter Biden was the one who brought the cocaine into
the White House at this point.
Speaker 2: Because it would not have been able if I remember correctly,
you know, some member of a tour group or something like,
they go through the screening and security checkpoints and all
of that, but family members do not. And that would
have given Hunter Biden access to enter and leave at
his own will without any pat downs or security checks
or anything. And it was in an area that is
like not available to just the general public to go
into and.
Speaker 3: Right, and the reason it needed to be covered up,
I mean oviously was embarrassing. But number two even more
importantly for Hunter Biden, who was trying to escape a
lot of things at that time. According to Stephen Miller,
who is an editor of The Spectator, he did every
single person knows who the cocaine belonged to, but journalists
actually doing journalism would have discovered that conditions of Hunter
Biden's plea deal meant he stayed sober and clean, and
if he violated that, then Joe Biden's only surviving son
will be going to prison.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's why it was covered up. You know,
there's so much, there's so many layers to the cover
that we're now learning. It's just astonishing and it's such
a huge scandal and it deserves a major, major investigation
that they shouldn't go away until the people who knew
about these things and kept them from the public. And
these are people at the highest levels of government, cabinet secretaries,
possibly even Kamala Harris. They need to be held to account,
if nowhere else than in the court of public opinion,
because a lot of these people, well some of these
people are going to be probably speaking all in the
next few years, like Harris and a few others. They
need to be exposed and called out for what they did.
Speaker 2: There was another tidbit in here that I have not
seen reported, so I guess it was this information about
bo Biden. Was this information in the book original Sin
about his the cover up of his medical condition that
was in the book too, Yes.
Speaker 3: This was kind of interesting, Pete. I wasn't aware of this.
I just assumed around the time that his diagnosis was made,
which was bo Biden's diagnosis was made, which was I
believe in the summer of twenty thirteen. I just assumed
that it had been made public knowledge at that point.
But it happened, and as the book revealed, the Biden
family actually had a discussion, a private discussion, as to
how many details they would share in public. Now At
the time Joe Biden was the vice president and his
son both was the Attorney general of Delaware, and about
a year after his diagnosis, he announced he was going
to be running for governor. For the two years after
his diagnosis to his unfortunate passing in May twenty fifteen,
the family covered it up. Even when they would when
bo Biden would travel to go get treatments at facilities
in other states, I guess experimental treatments and whatnot, he
would actually register under an alias so the media wouldn't
be able to find out that it was him. So
there was this extensive cover up of that health issue
that they didn't want anybody to know about. And the
vice president was involved in coordinating the cover up, but
then vice president who was just our president for four years.
So there's there's just a cover up history with the
bidens that scans back well over decade, and it just
so many things are just kind of told just some
stuff going on now, you know, just all this stuff
going on, it just makes you think what else did
they cover up?
Speaker 2: So, I mean, just think about the how bonkers that is.
You've got the sitting ag diagnosed with glioblastoma, that's brain
cancer that is, I mean, that's terminal. Even if you
go in and get surgery done and they can get
it all out, chances are it comes back, and it
is it can be very aggressive. My father in law
passed away from glioblastoma. We saw firsthand what that does
to somebody. And after a diagnosis of that a year later,
you decide you're going to run for office, like what
for another for governor.
Speaker 3: And they were also at the time, Peteon you may
have seen this in the piece. There there were also doctors.
I don't know if they were paid by the Biden family.
I assume as they were. There were also doctors at
the time who were issuing public reports stating that Bo
Biden had a clean bill of help. These are people
that physicians, licensed physicians who went through you know, this
rigmarole of saying, you know, but Bo Biden is the
picture of health when he wasn't, when he had just
had a tumor the size of a golf ball removed
from his brains. So if you think about that story
and you kind of contrast it with the Biden cancer
diagnosis that we you know, just heard about last week
and make you wonder if they had a position back then.
Who was willing to cover up bout Biden's condition? What
about the physician who we're trading bikes for the last
four years while he was in the White House? What
are they covering up?
Speaker 4: I said, this is serious, Yeah, I said this.
Speaker 2: I guess Monday that I don't trust the Bidens too
on anything, let alone health issues.
Speaker 4: I don't trust them.
Speaker 2: So when they come out with that statement, I mean,
I can be you know, I can wish them well.
I could say it's you know, that's that's that's sad news.
I'm sorry to hear that, but I don't I don't
believe anything else about it because I don't know well
I know, and not to trust Joe Biden and his
and his family on on this health stuff like that's
it makes me wonder about the timing, right, Like did
they do this in order to bigfoot the Jake Tapper book?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: And you have to you have to ask these questions
because the material of the book is precisely in the
same category as the cancer diagnosis. And why all of
this matters is that if the president was not cognitively
functioning enough to be president, who the hell was running
the government who was signing the orders.
Speaker 3: And the point you made as earlier on your on
your Twitter feed is even beyond that. Does this put
put into question the legality of things that Biden signed,
like uh, you are allegedly signed like executive orders, pardons,
you know, the autopen You know Trump has been making
a big deal out of that in recent days. So
this this just raises so many questions. And you know,
I don't know the announcement of Biden's cancer diagnosis was timed.
It probably was knowing their history of wanting to cover
things up. And again, I wish him well too. As
someone who is a caregiver to a mother who was
diagnosed in twenty twenty two at the age of seventy
nine with stage three B colon cancer, I'm very sympathetic
to this issue. But I'm also sympathetic to mean what
this whole story of cover ups, whether we're talking about
a cancer cover up, a cognitive decline cover up, what
had you. I'm very concerned about what happened in the
Biden administration. It pisces me off that we were lied to,
not just by Biden officials probably up and including his wife,
oh definitely, but also the media who are now you know,
Jake Tapper and now Thompson are taking victory laps over
this book when Jake Tapper was one of the people
who was most involved in the media side of the
cover up even and he's even somewhat acknowledging that now
even that he's not using the word cover ups. So again,
like I said before, there's so many layers to this.
And while I'm sympathetic to what the Bidens are going
through now with the diagnosis, I am also very concerned
as to what this all means. What happened. We need
to have answers and and and releasing a statement about
a cancer diagnosis should not stop a quest for more
information and more sunlight on this issue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, accountability, I said it earlier in the show today.
This is a reckoning and there are a lot of
Democrats in media that don't want this to occur. But
like I'm not, I'm not going to stop. And I
hope more. I hope more people like Tapper write more books.
Whatever information they can get out, I'm fine with because
the more information that gets out, the worse and worse
it looks, and we get more and more names, we
get confirmation of the stuff that we saw, we knew,
we believed, we hypothesized, we get confirmation that we were correct.
And that's how a reckoning has to start.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and Pete, I don't know if you if
you saw this story over ESA, but there's actually some
journal in fighting going on about Tapper and Thompson coming
out with this book, because there's journalists out there who
are saying, Hey, we don't need to talk about Joe
Biden right now. We need to be talking about Trump
and what he's doing and whatnot, even though there might
have been some issues during the Biden presidency. Well, my
thought bubble is on that if you actually wrote about
this stuff during the Biden presidency, maybe we wouldn't be
talking about.
Speaker 2: Them, right, Yeah, exactly, Just do your job.
Speaker 3: And you know, maybe we wouldn't be in this situation.
But that's another story for another day.
Speaker 2: No, you're exactly right, Stacy Matthews. She writes under the
diploma of Sister told You over at RedState dot com.
You can read all of her, ladies, and she's prolific writer.
She's putting out what do you do, like five sixteen
posts a day.
Speaker 5: What I don't even know it's a lot not quite
that much too close.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so read her work at RedState dot com. Stacy
always a pleasure. Thanks so much for making.
Speaker 3: Time for State take care.
Speaker 4: You too at Stacy Matthews.
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doing the math here. I'm not gonna have time to
get to all my soundbites. I still have, like, I
don't know, sixteen minutes worth of sound bites, and I'm
not going I'm gonna run out of time, So I'm
gonna move some till tomorrow. But here's a story that
just came down from Ed Morrissey at hot air dot com.
The Washington d C. Establishment sure seems determined to distance
itself from the obvious media and political cover up of
the past four years. No one exemplifies that DC establishment
as Sally Quinn does. Do you know who Sally Quinn is?
Not the medicine woman. No, not only is Quinn the
douyen of DC society, she has also has a columnist
gig at the Washington Post, has had that for decades.
She was married to the legendary Washington Post editor Ben
Bradley for thirty six years until his death in twenty fourteen,
and has long been a formidable figure in the nation's capital,
both politically and socially. So when Sally Quinn throws somebody
under robus, it means something, especially when that's someone has
been around DC for as long as Quinn has. Quinn
tells the journalist Tara Pelmery in a new and linked
the interview that the Bidens acted in an unpatriotic manner
in attempting to extend their grasp on power, and Quinn
knows who to blame. She pulls no punches in a
wide ranging interview, calling Biden unpatriotic and accusing the former
First Lady Jill Biden, sorry, doctor Jill Biden, of being
the enabler quote. I blame Jill Biden for this. Jill
Biden is his wife. She clearly was in favor of
his running, and I just think it was a terrible
disservice to the country.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: So you got the the media apparatus and the Democrat
Party establishment and the leadership there. Everybody is now focusing
on the Bidens and blaming them that he's the reason
Trump won because he but se'ch thing like that. That
removes any any of the help, any of the covering up, right,
and it relieves them of all accountability, because well, when
he said he was running again, I mean, we just
we just had to fall in line. We had no
other choice, right, what was I supposed to do? I
may have, you know, seen Joe Biden acting off and
making all of these mistakes and these gaps and the
cognitive decline and the glitching and all of this. But
what was I supposed to do? We had to beat
Donald Trump, so I had to help cover it up.
That's their argument.
Speaker 4: No quarter. I give no quarter to these folks.
Speaker 2: She goes on to say, I felt sorry for Joe
Biden because I didn't think she was protecting him. She
wasn't protecting him from himself. And after that hideous debate,
right after the debate, they were in the spin room
and she got his hand up and there you know.
Speaker 4: Victory, victory. We won.
Speaker 2: It was great, it was great. And then the next
day he's off in North Carolina making a victory speech,
and I thought, what were they watching? I thought it
was just elder abuse, really what they were putting him through.
I think this is interesting that she says that that
Biden that Jill did not protect Joe, because in Tapper
and Thompson's book, they described Jill as the protector and
loyalty and forcer. That's how they described her. Protect her.
Speaker 4: Of what of whom?
Speaker 2: You don't do that to somebody you love, putting him
out there, keeping him out there. At some point you
take the car keys from your grandfather. All right. If
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audio clips that I can get to. Let me get
to them. This is Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson on
The Megan Kelly Show yesterday. You can catch it on YouTube,
and Tapper said that a lot of people claimed that
they were being kept away from Biden by what Thompson
describes as the Pollitt Bureau.
Speaker 6: That's the Nancy Pelosi, as we write about in the book,
has a private and secret meeting with Biden after the
debate where she's urging him to look at the polling
information and I don't know when the last time she
had had a one on one with him was because
she suggests that after she stepped down as Democratic leader
after the midterms of twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: She barely saw him.
Speaker 6: And this is a theme throughout twenty twenty three, especially
the last half of twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four,
how many people didn't have access to him, how many
people didn't see him.
Speaker 7: And that and this was by design. You write in
the book that Alex I'll bring you in because there
was a so called what you write about as a
pollit bureau surrounding him. It was four people plus Biden
to make five. Can you tell us who those people were?
And is the theory then that those are the four
people who did know and worked as this as sort
of cabal to keep everybody else at arm's length so
that they wouldn't also have full knowledge of his deterioration.
Speaker 8: Okay, so the people that we're naming would to be
Mike Donald, Steve Chetty, mc donald's top political advisor, Steve
shechetti's top legislative advisor, Ron Klain when he was chief
of staff. Bruce Reid is basically longtime policy adviser. Those
are sort of the four. They were known as a
pulp borow, gray hairs pooh bahs, and they were with
him the most of anybody. Now if you were to
ask them, and I still think even if you put
them on truth serum today, they would say he was fine.
You know, I think I don't know if they're lying
or lying to themselves or it doesn't matter. Then there's
this other sort of group that aren't the polit burrel
but are just as powerful. And they were the ones
that kept the schedule, affected personnel, and really built the bubble.
And that would be any Timessini, who was deputy chief
of Staff and previously Oval Office operations. And then Anthony Bernall,
who was the top aid slash enforcer for First Lady
Jill Biden and had incredible influence to the point that
even people in the Biden White House would refer to
her as one of the most powerful First Ladies in history.
Speaker 7: You write about this Bernal a lot, and you suggest, Jake,
it was very to find anybody with a nice word
to say about this guy who was Jill Biden's top person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he acknowledged that he had a tough reputation.
Speaker 6: He was the chief of staff for Jill Biden and
perhaps the most powerful First Lady chief of staff in
the history of this country. He is somebody that enforced
what Jill Biden wanted. And at the end of the day,
one of the things that was interesting when we wrote
this book and researched this book was trying to figure
out why was there no discussion of whether or not
he should run for reelection. Why was it just a
foregone conclusion that he was going to run for reelection,
especially after he had made this kind of vague promise
that he would be a one term president. And it
came down to two people, one of whom spoke for Biden,
that's Mike Donalan, and the other one spoke for First
Lady Jill Biden, and that's Anthony Bernal, And basically they
communicated to the rest of the staff. Bernal would say,
you run for two terms, you serve for two terms,
you don't do one. And Mike Donaldan would say, you know,
Biden's made the decision.
Speaker 1: He's running. That's it. There's no discussion.
Speaker 6: And when people would try to raise it, although nobody
directly with Joe Biden, but when people would try to
raise you know, Anita Dunn said something, I'm like, are
we sure this is a good idea. A different Polster
was like, shouldn't we figure out if like this is
even a good idea. This is the politics of it all.
This is not whether or not he should or should
not have been president. This is about whether or not
he could get reelected, which is a different level. Here,
they would say, the decision has been made. The decision
has been made. And so there was a small group
of people running the train. And I think that it's
not a star chamber so much because they weren't like,
it wasn't like five of them in a room making
these decisions, but definitely were Shatty and Donald and definitely Bernal,
and then different individuals hopping in and out, whether Genna
Melly Dillon who was a deputy chief of staff and
then ran the campaign, whether Anita Donn, whether Ron Klain
or Jeff Science, the chiefs of staff all played different roles.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Mike donalllan you heard there. I mentioned earlier
that when they were on the campaign bus tour in
twenty nineteen, Biden forgot this guy's name multiple times, even
though the guy had worked for Biden for like thirty years.
But think of the timeframe here, right, because all of
This goes to an idea that animates Biden world, which
is only Joe could beat Trump, that he's got this
you know, phoenix rising from the ashes, kind of lore
of himself in his mind, and the others around him
either believe it or they allow him to believe it,
so they are all like, he's the only one that
could win. He's the only one that could beat Trum
because he did.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: But at some point, if you've got like in twenty nineteen,
if he's showing signs of cognitive decline on the campaign trail,
then what.
Speaker 4: COVID? Right, he wins the primary.
Speaker 2: Everyone else falls away. He's now the nominee. COVID hits
and he goes into the basement. Best thing to ever happen.
Right for his campaign, Trump is out there every day.
People are associating him with COVID, and you know, the
closures and the economy and everything. Then he wins, and
then what happens. All of the charges start getting filed
against Donald Trump. Right, you start getting all of these
criminal charges getting filed against Trump, which then empowers Trump.
People are now like, I wasn't going to vote him before,
but oh now I will, you know, and part of
me has to wonder, did you file the charges? Did
you do all of that and go after Trump to
try to throw him in jail so he could not
run again? Did you do that in order to keep
him out? And early on did you do that because
you thought Joe was going to be gone, that he
was only going to be a one termer, so you
needed to make sure Trump was out of the picture.
Speaker 4: And then what did you do?
Speaker 2: You end up empowering Trump by filing the charges, and
then that feeds biden world's mentality of only Joe can
beat Trump, and so you kept him in. What a
colossal backfire? The charges were right? If that's the way
this thing played out, What a colossal backfire? Your charge
is not only made Trump more popular, but it also
convinced Biden to stay if he wasn't already thinking to
do so. Hoisted on their own petard? All right, So
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clip to play, then I'll get Eric on. He's been
waiting patiently, but I want to get this last SoundBite
in before the end of the show.
Speaker 4: So this is on.
Speaker 2: This is Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson on Megan Kelly
Show talking about Biden forgetting his staffers' names.
Speaker 7: Just this week, Jake Sullivan, the national security advisor was
out saying, geez, what I saw that debate shocked me.
But you have reporting in this book that Jake Sullivan
was well aware that Joe Biden was having some serious
memory problems going back years.
Speaker 6: In December twenty twenty two, the day that her name
is escaping me, which is right now what we're talking to,
Britney Grinder.
Speaker 1: The name. I'm sorry, I'm not a big w NBA fan.
The time that.
Speaker 6: Brittney Grinder is going out that gets out of Russian control,
Russian you know, she was a prisoner in Russia. Biden
is outside the Oval office with and Jake Sullivan, his
National security advisor, and Kate Benningfield, his communications director, are
there and he can't.
Speaker 1: Come up with their names. This is December twenty twenty two.
Speaker 6: He calls Jake Steve Steve, and then he called Kate
Benningfield Press, and then he beckons them to come with him.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 6: I saw in that same interview that Jake said he did,
Jake Sullivan said he didn't remember that. I can't attest
to what people remember what they don't. I just know
that that happened.
Speaker 7: That happened, and you also report, Alex that there was
interference run by I think this same Paul at Bureau,
this cabal against the White House residence staffers so that
they would not witness what the inner circle was witnessing
with his deterioration. Can you fill that out a bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 8: The residence staff were really stunned with how especially the
first Lady's Office took over really through Bernal and a Tomassini.
Both of them also unusual had resident staff that passes,
which is not normal for aids in the White House
to be able to go like to and from they would,
you just had certain powers, to the point that a
lot of the resident staff, you know, they felt they
were being kept at bay, that they were not trust
and that they often were they're just twiddling their thumbs.
They would have to go, They often went home early,
they didn't have a lot to do, and there was
a feeling among some in the resident staff that this
was about hiding his deterioration.
Speaker 1: And we quote one resident.
Speaker 8: Staff, you know, official that said he would just sometimes
look at you, and I'm paraphrasing, he would just sometimes
look at you like he didn't even know you, even
though I was seeing him every day.
Speaker 2: They also fired the White House elevator operator in the residence,
the guy who would be you know, manning the elevator
every day, and they told him we don't need your
services in the residence side. And that is believed to
have been an effort to keep somebody out of Biden's orbit,
right where he would see every see Biden every day,
multiple times a day. Get him out of the picture.
All right, let me go over and talk to Eric. Hello, Eric,
welcome to the show.
Speaker 5: Hey see, I appreciate taking my car. This is a
little alternative history here, But the Democrats since twenty fifteen
have been trying, had tried everything possible to keep Donald
Trump from being president, from the dossier to Russia gay
to multiple impeachments. The only thing that really beat Trump
was probably COVID, and even recently you had the law
fair But to me, in thinking about all this, the
best chance that the Democrats ever had to prevent Donald
Trump from entering the White House would have been in
twenty sixteen, had Jim Comey in the Justice Department indicted
Hillary Clinton ended her campaign, and who would have come in.
Joe Biden was much more like and probably much more
capable at that time, and I think he would have
won and he could have beaten Trump bet and probably
may will have prevented Trump from ever being president. But
I think the lack of courage that they exhibited in
failing to follow through with her obvious crimes probably caused
Trump to be president.
Speaker 4: No, that's interesting theory.
Speaker 2: It reminds me of the uhu was it Charlie Wilson's War,
where you've got uh Well, hang on a second, I
can hear the rate.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put you on.
Speaker 2: Hold Eric, you've got I'm drawn a blank on the
guy's name, but you got Tom Hanks and the other fella,
I forget his name. But he's telling him this old
tale from like Afghanistan, where the uh you know, the
village elder keeps saying we'll see, Like the little boy
gets injured and everybody says, oh, that's terrible, and the
elder says, we'll see. And then there's a war, and
then the kid is not drafted because he is maimed,
and so they're like, oh, isn't it good that you
don't have to go to war? And the guy says, oh,
we'll see, and so and through the progression of the story.
Things that people think are good right now turn out
not to be so right. And to Eric's theory, there
not prosecuting Hillary Clinton, right. They thought that was a
good thing at the time. It turned out not to be.
So we'll see, we'll see. B Lincoln was involved, Sullivan
was involved. Pryne On Pierre barely mentioned in the book.
I'm guessing she was one of the sources. I all right,
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