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welcome back to the program. Stacy Matthews, writer over at

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RedState dot com. She writes under the numb diplume of

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sister told you. Welcome Stacy. How are you today, Hey.

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Speaker 3: Pete, good to be on. There's so much to talk

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about it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I've been looking at your page, your author

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page or whatever it's called on the red state dot

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com site, and it seems like you've had some material.

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Speaker 4: It's been a target rich environment.

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Speaker 2: I see you've also got one that just posted up

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today regarding uh an old story UH that is related

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to the new developments that people are talking about from

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this book Original Sin and the you know, Biden's cognitive decline.

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But I guess like when you heard all of this,

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your mind went to cocaine, right, so like.

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Speaker 4: What what so?

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Speaker 2: And I thought I had not even considered this, so uh,

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but you're you're now what rethinking? Some earlier tales of

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cocaine in the White House?

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Speaker 3: Well, we reported at the site. My colleague Banchi actually

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wrote the first story about it. There's so much coming

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out from the new book from Jake Papper and Alex

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Thompson's original Sin that came out officially on Tuesday, and

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one of the things that they reported was that Hunter Biden,

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in the last two years of Joe Biden's presidency was

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pulling a lot more strings than we previously knew. Of course,

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we knew ahead of time that he had even been

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and allegedly accompanying him into classified meetings, but it's actually,

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according to Jake Tapper, he was almost like the chief

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of staff for Biden in the last two years. And

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the whole revelation of that information, it's got people kind

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of revisiting the twenty twenty three Summer twenty twenty three

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cocaine incident where cocaine was found at the White House

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and we were told it was in various places. They

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told us it was in one place and would tell

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us it was another place. And the Secret Service investigation

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from that said that they never could determine who actually

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brought it in because there were so many people that

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came and went from the White House. Well, with this

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revelation about Hunter Biden and pulling strings and actually kind

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of being more in power than we knew at the

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Biden White House the last two years Biden was in office,

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this really kind of makes you revisit that and think, well,

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I think we really know this time, you know who

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it was who actually brought the cocaine in. I mean,

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it's funny on one hand, but it's not funny on

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the other hand because it just goes to show that

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there's been so many more cover ups in the White

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House that the media under reported or did not report

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at all. And at the time we all talked about

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it and speculated that it was Hunter Biden. But I

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think this is kind of the cherry on top for

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that story. I think it almost pretty much confirmed that

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Hunter Biden was the one who brought the cocaine into

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the White House at this point.

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Speaker 2: Because it would not have been able if I remember correctly,

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you know, some member of a tour group or something like,

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they go through the screening and security checkpoints and all

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of that, but family members do not. And that would

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have given Hunter Biden access to enter and leave at

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his own will without any pat downs or security checks

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or anything. And it was in an area that is

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like not available to just the general public to go

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into and.

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Speaker 3: Right, and the reason it needed to be covered up,

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I mean oviously was embarrassing. But number two even more

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importantly for Hunter Biden, who was trying to escape a

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lot of things at that time. According to Stephen Miller,

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who is an editor of The Spectator, he did every

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single person knows who the cocaine belonged to, but journalists

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actually doing journalism would have discovered that conditions of Hunter

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Biden's plea deal meant he stayed sober and clean, and

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if he violated that, then Joe Biden's only surviving son

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will be going to prison.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's why it was covered up. You know,

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there's so much, there's so many layers to the cover

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that we're now learning. It's just astonishing and it's such

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a huge scandal and it deserves a major, major investigation

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that they shouldn't go away until the people who knew

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about these things and kept them from the public. And

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these are people at the highest levels of government, cabinet secretaries,

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possibly even Kamala Harris. They need to be held to account,

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if nowhere else than in the court of public opinion,

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because a lot of these people, well some of these

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people are going to be probably speaking all in the

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next few years, like Harris and a few others. They

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need to be exposed and called out for what they did.

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Speaker 2: There was another tidbit in here that I have not

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seen reported, so I guess it was this information about

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bo Biden. Was this information in the book original Sin

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about his the cover up of his medical condition that

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was in the book too, Yes.

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Speaker 3: This was kind of interesting, Pete. I wasn't aware of this.

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I just assumed around the time that his diagnosis was made,

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which was bo Biden's diagnosis was made, which was I

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believe in the summer of twenty thirteen. I just assumed

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that it had been made public knowledge at that point.

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But it happened, and as the book revealed, the Biden

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family actually had a discussion, a private discussion, as to

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how many details they would share in public. Now At

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the time Joe Biden was the vice president and his

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son both was the Attorney general of Delaware, and about

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a year after his diagnosis, he announced he was going

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to be running for governor. For the two years after

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his diagnosis to his unfortunate passing in May twenty fifteen,

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the family covered it up. Even when they would when

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bo Biden would travel to go get treatments at facilities

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in other states, I guess experimental treatments and whatnot, he

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would actually register under an alias so the media wouldn't

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be able to find out that it was him. So

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there was this extensive cover up of that health issue

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that they didn't want anybody to know about. And the

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vice president was involved in coordinating the cover up, but

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then vice president who was just our president for four years.

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So there's there's just a cover up history with the

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bidens that scans back well over decade, and it just

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so many things are just kind of told just some

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stuff going on now, you know, just all this stuff

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going on, it just makes you think what else did

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they cover up?

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Speaker 2: So, I mean, just think about the how bonkers that is.

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You've got the sitting ag diagnosed with glioblastoma, that's brain

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cancer that is, I mean, that's terminal. Even if you

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go in and get surgery done and they can get

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it all out, chances are it comes back, and it

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is it can be very aggressive. My father in law

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passed away from glioblastoma. We saw firsthand what that does

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to somebody. And after a diagnosis of that a year later,

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you decide you're going to run for office, like what

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for another for governor.

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Speaker 3: And they were also at the time, Peteon you may

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have seen this in the piece. There there were also doctors.

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I don't know if they were paid by the Biden family.

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I assume as they were. There were also doctors at

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the time who were issuing public reports stating that Bo

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Biden had a clean bill of help. These are people

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that physicians, licensed physicians who went through you know, this

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rigmarole of saying, you know, but Bo Biden is the

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picture of health when he wasn't, when he had just

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had a tumor the size of a golf ball removed

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from his brains. So if you think about that story

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and you kind of contrast it with the Biden cancer

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diagnosis that we you know, just heard about last week

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and make you wonder if they had a position back then.

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Who was willing to cover up bout Biden's condition? What

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about the physician who we're trading bikes for the last

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four years while he was in the White House? What

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are they covering up?

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Speaker 4: I said, this is serious, Yeah, I said this.

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Speaker 2: I guess Monday that I don't trust the Bidens too

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on anything, let alone health issues.

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Speaker 4: I don't trust them.

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Speaker 2: So when they come out with that statement, I mean,

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I can be you know, I can wish them well.

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I could say it's you know, that's that's that's sad news.

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I'm sorry to hear that, but I don't I don't

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believe anything else about it because I don't know well

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I know, and not to trust Joe Biden and his

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and his family on on this health stuff like that's

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it makes me wonder about the timing, right, Like did

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they do this in order to bigfoot the Jake Tapper book?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: And you have to you have to ask these questions

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because the material of the book is precisely in the

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same category as the cancer diagnosis. And why all of

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this matters is that if the president was not cognitively

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functioning enough to be president, who the hell was running

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the government who was signing the orders.

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Speaker 3: And the point you made as earlier on your on

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your Twitter feed is even beyond that. Does this put

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put into question the legality of things that Biden signed,

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like uh, you are allegedly signed like executive orders, pardons,

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you know, the autopen You know Trump has been making

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a big deal out of that in recent days. So

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this this just raises so many questions. And you know,

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I don't know the announcement of Biden's cancer diagnosis was timed.

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It probably was knowing their history of wanting to cover

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things up. And again, I wish him well too. As

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someone who is a caregiver to a mother who was

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diagnosed in twenty twenty two at the age of seventy

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nine with stage three B colon cancer, I'm very sympathetic

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to this issue. But I'm also sympathetic to mean what

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this whole story of cover ups, whether we're talking about

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a cancer cover up, a cognitive decline cover up, what

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had you. I'm very concerned about what happened in the

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Biden administration. It pisces me off that we were lied to,

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not just by Biden officials probably up and including his wife,

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oh definitely, but also the media who are now you know,

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Jake Tapper and now Thompson are taking victory laps over

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this book when Jake Tapper was one of the people

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cover up even and he's even somewhat acknowledging that now

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even that he's not using the word cover ups. So again,

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like I said before, there's so many layers to this.

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And while I'm sympathetic to what the Bidens are going

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through now with the diagnosis, I am also very concerned

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as to what this all means. What happened. We need

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to have answers and and and releasing a statement about

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a cancer diagnosis should not stop a quest for more

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information and more sunlight on this issue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, accountability, I said it earlier in the show today.

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This is a reckoning and there are a lot of

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Democrats in media that don't want this to occur. But

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like I'm not, I'm not going to stop. And I

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hope more. I hope more people like Tapper write more books.

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Whatever information they can get out, I'm fine with because

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the more information that gets out, the worse and worse

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it looks, and we get more and more names, we

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get confirmation of the stuff that we saw, we knew,

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we believed, we hypothesized, we get confirmation that we were correct.

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And that's how a reckoning has to start.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, and Pete, I don't know if you if

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you saw this story over ESA, but there's actually some

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journal in fighting going on about Tapper and Thompson coming

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out with this book, because there's journalists out there who

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are saying, Hey, we don't need to talk about Joe

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Biden right now. We need to be talking about Trump

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and what he's doing and whatnot, even though there might

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have been some issues during the Biden presidency. Well, my

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thought bubble is on that if you actually wrote about

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this stuff during the Biden presidency, maybe we wouldn't be

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talking about.

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Speaker 2: Them, right, Yeah, exactly, Just do your job.

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Speaker 3: And you know, maybe we wouldn't be in this situation.

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But that's another story for another day.

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Speaker 2: No, you're exactly right, Stacy Matthews. She writes under the

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diploma of Sister told You over at RedState dot com.

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You can read all of her, ladies, and she's prolific writer.

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She's putting out what do you do, like five sixteen

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Speaker 5: What I don't even know it's a lot not quite

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so read her work at RedState dot com. Stacy

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Speaker 3: Time for State take care.

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Speaker 4: You too at Stacy Matthews.

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get to all my soundbites. I still have, like, I

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don't know, sixteen minutes worth of sound bites, and I'm

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not going I'm gonna run out of time, So I'm

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gonna move some till tomorrow. But here's a story that

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just came down from Ed Morrissey at hot air dot com.

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The Washington d C. Establishment sure seems determined to distance

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itself from the obvious media and political cover up of

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the past four years. No one exemplifies that DC establishment

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as Sally Quinn does. Do you know who Sally Quinn is?

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Not the medicine woman. No, not only is Quinn the

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douyen of DC society, she has also has a columnist

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gig at the Washington Post, has had that for decades.

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She was married to the legendary Washington Post editor Ben

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Bradley for thirty six years until his death in twenty fourteen,

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and has long been a formidable figure in the nation's capital,

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both politically and socially. So when Sally Quinn throws somebody

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under robus, it means something, especially when that's someone has

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been around DC for as long as Quinn has. Quinn

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tells the journalist Tara Pelmery in a new and linked

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the interview that the Bidens acted in an unpatriotic manner

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in attempting to extend their grasp on power, and Quinn

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knows who to blame. She pulls no punches in a

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wide ranging interview, calling Biden unpatriotic and accusing the former

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First Lady Jill Biden, sorry, doctor Jill Biden, of being

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the enabler quote. I blame Jill Biden for this. Jill

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Biden is his wife. She clearly was in favor of

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his running, and I just think it was a terrible

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disservice to the country.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: So you got the the media apparatus and the Democrat

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Party establishment and the leadership there. Everybody is now focusing

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on the Bidens and blaming them that he's the reason

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Trump won because he but se'ch thing like that. That

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removes any any of the help, any of the covering up, right,

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and it relieves them of all accountability, because well, when

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he said he was running again, I mean, we just

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we just had to fall in line. We had no

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other choice, right, what was I supposed to do? I

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may have, you know, seen Joe Biden acting off and

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making all of these mistakes and these gaps and the

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cognitive decline and the glitching and all of this. But

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what was I supposed to do? We had to beat

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Donald Trump, so I had to help cover it up.

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That's their argument.

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Speaker 4: No quarter. I give no quarter to these folks.

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Speaker 2: She goes on to say, I felt sorry for Joe

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Biden because I didn't think she was protecting him. She

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wasn't protecting him from himself. And after that hideous debate,

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right after the debate, they were in the spin room

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and she got his hand up and there you know.

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Speaker 4: Victory, victory. We won.

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Speaker 2: It was great, it was great. And then the next

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day he's off in North Carolina making a victory speech,

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and I thought, what were they watching? I thought it

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was just elder abuse, really what they were putting him through.

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I think this is interesting that she says that that

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Biden that Jill did not protect Joe, because in Tapper

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and Thompson's book, they described Jill as the protector and

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loyalty and forcer. That's how they described her. Protect her.

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Speaker 4: Of what of whom?

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Speaker 2: You don't do that to somebody you love, putting him

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out there, keeping him out there. At some point you

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take the car keys from your grandfather. All right. If

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media landscape more transparent. All right, So a couple more

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audio clips that I can get to. Let me get

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to them. This is Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson on

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The Megan Kelly Show yesterday. You can catch it on YouTube,

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and Tapper said that a lot of people claimed that

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they were being kept away from Biden by what Thompson

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describes as the Pollitt Bureau.

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Speaker 6: That's the Nancy Pelosi, as we write about in the book,

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has a private and secret meeting with Biden after the

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debate where she's urging him to look at the polling

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information and I don't know when the last time she

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had had a one on one with him was because

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she suggests that after she stepped down as Democratic leader

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after the midterms of twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: She barely saw him.

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Speaker 6: And this is a theme throughout twenty twenty three, especially

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the last half of twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four,

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how many people didn't have access to him, how many

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people didn't see him.

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Speaker 7: And that and this was by design. You write in

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the book that Alex I'll bring you in because there

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was a so called what you write about as a

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pollit bureau surrounding him. It was four people plus Biden

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to make five. Can you tell us who those people were?

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And is the theory then that those are the four

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people who did know and worked as this as sort

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of cabal to keep everybody else at arm's length so

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that they wouldn't also have full knowledge of his deterioration.

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Speaker 8: Okay, so the people that we're naming would to be

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Mike Donald, Steve Chetty, mc donald's top political advisor, Steve

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shechetti's top legislative advisor, Ron Klain when he was chief

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of staff. Bruce Reid is basically longtime policy adviser. Those

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are sort of the four. They were known as a

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pulp borow, gray hairs pooh bahs, and they were with

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him the most of anybody. Now if you were to

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ask them, and I still think even if you put

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them on truth serum today, they would say he was fine.

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or lying to themselves or it doesn't matter. Then there's

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this other sort of group that aren't the polit burrel

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but are just as powerful. And they were the ones

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that kept the schedule, affected personnel, and really built the bubble.

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of Staff and previously Oval Office operations. And then Anthony Bernall,

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who was the top aid slash enforcer for First Lady

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Jill Biden and had incredible influence to the point that

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even people in the Biden White House would refer to

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her as one of the most powerful First Ladies in history.

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Speaker 7: You write about this Bernal a lot, and you suggest, Jake,

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it was very to find anybody with a nice word

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to say about this guy who was Jill Biden's top person.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he acknowledged that he had a tough reputation.

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Speaker 6: He was the chief of staff for Jill Biden and

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perhaps the most powerful First Lady chief of staff in

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the history of this country. He is somebody that enforced

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what Jill Biden wanted. And at the end of the day,

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one of the things that was interesting when we wrote

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this book and researched this book was trying to figure

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out why was there no discussion of whether or not

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he should run for reelection. Why was it just a

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foregone conclusion that he was going to run for reelection,

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especially after he had made this kind of vague promise

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that he would be a one term president. And it

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came down to two people, one of whom spoke for Biden,

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that's Mike Donalan, and the other one spoke for First

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Lady Jill Biden, and that's Anthony Bernal, And basically they

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communicated to the rest of the staff. Bernal would say,

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you run for two terms, you serve for two terms,

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you don't do one. And Mike Donaldan would say, you know,

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Biden's made the decision.

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Speaker 1: He's running. That's it. There's no discussion.

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Speaker 6: And when people would try to raise it, although nobody

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directly with Joe Biden, but when people would try to

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raise you know, Anita Dunn said something, I'm like, are

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we sure this is a good idea. A different Polster

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was like, shouldn't we figure out if like this is

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even a good idea. This is the politics of it all.

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This is not whether or not he should or should

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not have been president. This is about whether or not

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he could get reelected, which is a different level. Here,

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they would say, the decision has been made. The decision

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has been made. And so there was a small group

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of people running the train. And I think that it's

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not a star chamber so much because they weren't like,

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it wasn't like five of them in a room making

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these decisions, but definitely were Shatty and Donald and definitely Bernal,

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and then different individuals hopping in and out, whether Genna

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Melly Dillon who was a deputy chief of staff and

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then ran the campaign, whether Anita Donn, whether Ron Klain

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or Jeff Science, the chiefs of staff all played different roles.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So Mike donalllan you heard there. I mentioned earlier

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that when they were on the campaign bus tour in

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twenty nineteen, Biden forgot this guy's name multiple times, even

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though the guy had worked for Biden for like thirty years.

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But think of the timeframe here, right, because all of

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This goes to an idea that animates Biden world, which

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is only Joe could beat Trump, that he's got this

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you know, phoenix rising from the ashes, kind of lore

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of himself in his mind, and the others around him

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either believe it or they allow him to believe it,

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so they are all like, he's the only one that

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could win. He's the only one that could beat Trum

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because he did.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: But at some point, if you've got like in twenty nineteen,

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if he's showing signs of cognitive decline on the campaign trail,

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then what.

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Speaker 4: COVID? Right, he wins the primary.

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Speaker 2: Everyone else falls away. He's now the nominee. COVID hits

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and he goes into the basement. Best thing to ever happen.

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Right for his campaign, Trump is out there every day.

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People are associating him with COVID, and you know, the

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closures and the economy and everything. Then he wins, and

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then what happens. All of the charges start getting filed

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against Donald Trump. Right, you start getting all of these

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criminal charges getting filed against Trump, which then empowers Trump.

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People are now like, I wasn't going to vote him before,

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but oh now I will, you know, and part of

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me has to wonder, did you file the charges? Did

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you do all of that and go after Trump to

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try to throw him in jail so he could not

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run again? Did you do that in order to keep

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him out? And early on did you do that because

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you thought Joe was going to be gone, that he

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was only going to be a one termer, so you

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needed to make sure Trump was out of the picture.

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Speaker 4: And then what did you do?

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Speaker 2: You end up empowering Trump by filing the charges, and

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then that feeds biden world's mentality of only Joe can

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beat Trump, and so you kept him in. What a

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colossal backfire? The charges were right? If that's the way

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this thing played out, What a colossal backfire? Your charge

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is not only made Trump more popular, but it also

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convinced Biden to stay if he wasn't already thinking to

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do so. Hoisted on their own petard? All right, So

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clip to play, then I'll get Eric on. He's been

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waiting patiently, but I want to get this last SoundBite

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in before the end of the show.

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Speaker 4: So this is on.

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Speaker 2: This is Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson on Megan Kelly

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Show talking about Biden forgetting his staffers' names.

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Speaker 7: Just this week, Jake Sullivan, the national security advisor was

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out saying, geez, what I saw that debate shocked me.

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But you have reporting in this book that Jake Sullivan

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was well aware that Joe Biden was having some serious

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memory problems going back years.

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Speaker 6: In December twenty twenty two, the day that her name

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is escaping me, which is right now what we're talking to,

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Britney Grinder.

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Speaker 1: The name. I'm sorry, I'm not a big w NBA fan.

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The time that.

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Speaker 6: Brittney Grinder is going out that gets out of Russian control,

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Russian you know, she was a prisoner in Russia. Biden

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is outside the Oval office with and Jake Sullivan, his

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National security advisor, and Kate Benningfield, his communications director, are

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there and he can't.

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Speaker 1: Come up with their names. This is December twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 6: He calls Jake Steve Steve, and then he called Kate

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Benningfield Press, and then he beckons them to come with him.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I saw in that same interview that Jake said he did,

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Jake Sullivan said he didn't remember that. I can't attest

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to what people remember what they don't. I just know

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that that happened.

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Speaker 7: That happened, and you also report, Alex that there was

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interference run by I think this same Paul at Bureau,

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this cabal against the White House residence staffers so that

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they would not witness what the inner circle was witnessing

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with his deterioration. Can you fill that out a bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: The residence staff were really stunned with how especially the

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first Lady's Office took over really through Bernal and a Tomassini.

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Both of them also unusual had resident staff that passes,

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which is not normal for aids in the White House

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to be able to go like to and from they would,

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you just had certain powers, to the point that a

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lot of the resident staff, you know, they felt they

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were being kept at bay, that they were not trust

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and that they often were they're just twiddling their thumbs.

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They would have to go, They often went home early,

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they didn't have a lot to do, and there was

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a feeling among some in the resident staff that this

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was about hiding his deterioration.

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Speaker 1: And we quote one resident.

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Speaker 8: Staff, you know, official that said he would just sometimes

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look at you, and I'm paraphrasing, he would just sometimes

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look at you like he didn't even know you, even

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though I was seeing him every day.

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Speaker 2: They also fired the White House elevator operator in the residence,

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the guy who would be you know, manning the elevator

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every day, and they told him we don't need your

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services in the residence side. And that is believed to

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have been an effort to keep somebody out of Biden's orbit,

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right where he would see every see Biden every day,

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multiple times a day. Get him out of the picture.

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All right, let me go over and talk to Eric. Hello, Eric,

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welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: Hey see, I appreciate taking my car. This is a

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little alternative history here, But the Democrats since twenty fifteen

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have been trying, had tried everything possible to keep Donald

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Trump from being president, from the dossier to Russia gay

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to multiple impeachments. The only thing that really beat Trump

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was probably COVID, and even recently you had the law

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fair But to me, in thinking about all this, the

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best chance that the Democrats ever had to prevent Donald

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Trump from entering the White House would have been in

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twenty sixteen, had Jim Comey in the Justice Department indicted

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Hillary Clinton ended her campaign, and who would have come in.

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Joe Biden was much more like and probably much more

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capable at that time, and I think he would have

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won and he could have beaten Trump bet and probably

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may will have prevented Trump from ever being president. But

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I think the lack of courage that they exhibited in

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failing to follow through with her obvious crimes probably caused

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Trump to be president.

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Speaker 4: No, that's interesting theory.

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Speaker 2: It reminds me of the uhu was it Charlie Wilson's War,

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where you've got uh Well, hang on a second, I

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can hear the rate.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna put you on.

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Speaker 2: Hold Eric, you've got I'm drawn a blank on the

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guy's name, but you got Tom Hanks and the other fella,

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I forget his name. But he's telling him this old

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tale from like Afghanistan, where the uh you know, the

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village elder keeps saying we'll see, Like the little boy

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gets injured and everybody says, oh, that's terrible, and the

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elder says, we'll see. And then there's a war, and

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then the kid is not drafted because he is maimed,

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and so they're like, oh, isn't it good that you

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don't have to go to war? And the guy says, oh,

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we'll see, and so and through the progression of the story.

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Things that people think are good right now turn out

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not to be so right. And to Eric's theory, there

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not prosecuting Hillary Clinton, right. They thought that was a

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good thing at the time. It turned out not to be.

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So we'll see, we'll see. B Lincoln was involved, Sullivan

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was involved. Pryne On Pierre barely mentioned in the book.

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I'm guessing she was one of the sources. I all right,

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that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much

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