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<v Speaker 1>You see somethings going to happen. What what's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 3>What help? Welcome to the Occult Rejects.

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<v Speaker 4>This episode you got the Mormon Mafia Park four getting

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<v Speaker 4>into Jackie Onassis and uh, today the crew that we

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<v Speaker 4>got with us. Unfortunately j could not make it. He

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<v Speaker 4>is recording himself right now. But in today's episode you

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<v Speaker 4>got Lisa the occult reject mad scientists joining us today.

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<v Speaker 3>What is going on, Lisa? How are you?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm good, I'm good. Thank you for having me. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>really looking forward to this definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>And thank you for joining us as well. Appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>And uh, we also got a JJ Vance not the

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<v Speaker 4>vice president.

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<v Speaker 3>What is going on, sir? How are you.

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<v Speaker 2>Nick?

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<v Speaker 6>Doing awesome? Sir? Appreciate the invite as always, Lisa looking

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<v Speaker 6>forward to the conversation as always in Heidi, I'm always

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<v Speaker 6>excited to talk Mormon stuff with you. So and I

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<v Speaker 6>just want to point out Jen is partningjus, so we

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<v Speaker 6>can't be certain he's not here right now.

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<v Speaker 3>That is true. What the Streme other was could be

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<v Speaker 3>under the count show, could be hiding, that is true.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much, JJ, and I got your links

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<v Speaker 4>in the bottom as well. And Heidi, please, Heidi, let

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<v Speaker 4>everybody know. I mean, I'm sure people already know who

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<v Speaker 4>you are, but please, if they haven't heard of you yet,

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<v Speaker 4>let them know what they can find your amazing work.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I am Heidi love of the Unfiltered Rice. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>everywhere podcasts are served. I do have my own Patreon

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<v Speaker 2>where I give you extra episodes. I try not to

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<v Speaker 2>cut them if you join that. And they're more like

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<v Speaker 2>oddly centered around murders and different stuff that have to

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<v Speaker 2>do with Mormonism. So those are fun and yeah, that's me.

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<v Speaker 2>I do have my own also website, Unfiltered Rise podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Come awesome, awesome, And I'm pretty sure you're alink Tree

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever you got is in the bottom right now

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<v Speaker 4>as we're streaming live. Honestly, I don't particularly remember where

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<v Speaker 4>we left off last time.

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<v Speaker 3>So we have to ti that up to you.

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<v Speaker 1>You too, Yeah, Jay, it's a whole another subject. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole different ball of wax.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so. Yeah, that's what I thought.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought we were moving into like a different topic now,

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<v Speaker 4>So I guess you know, if you want to take

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<v Speaker 4>it away, and.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, I mean, how can we do this

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing on, you know, JFK RFK everybody and not

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<v Speaker 2>do the other famous K right like Jackie Kennedy.

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<v Speaker 1>She's been a K, A B and O Jackie O.

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<v Speaker 2>But like I said, if you want to know people

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<v Speaker 2>and anything about them, you kind of got to check

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<v Speaker 2>out their family. And her dad gave us some great

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<v Speaker 2>little nuggets. Now there isn't as Mani Mormon contacts here,

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<v Speaker 2>but there are some. There's definitely some interesting things that

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<v Speaker 2>JJ will jump on. I kind of get him my

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<v Speaker 2>head's up, so hopefully he'll know. But this is her dad,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is black Jack Bouvier. They called him black

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Boobya because he always had this fantastic tan apparently,

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<v Speaker 2>and she kept this photo with her at Vassar when

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<v Speaker 2>she went away to college, and it was like her

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<v Speaker 2>favorite photo. This is another one of him. They say

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<v Speaker 2>he was like irresistible to women. I'm like, are we

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<v Speaker 2>looking at the same photo. I mean, he's all right,

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<v Speaker 2>he's I mean, but apparently panty dropper, like whoa, And

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<v Speaker 2>I was shook. I was like folk and they just

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<v Speaker 2>went on and on about this in these books.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, Okay, next chapter.

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<v Speaker 6>Weird.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awkward.

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<v Speaker 2>But more importantly I thought this was more important than

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<v Speaker 2>the whole chapter about his womanizing, was that he went

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<v Speaker 2>to Yale m and he's part of the Book and

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<v Speaker 2>Snake Society. He's also part of the Cloister Club. He's

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<v Speaker 2>also Society of Cincinnati, which is why I texted JJ.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I actually have video footage of the Book and

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<v Speaker 4>Snake when I do cover Yale, I actually covered that

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<v Speaker 4>building there.

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<v Speaker 2>It always seems to go back, you know, when you

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<v Speaker 2>get into Yale, you're definitely gonna have some mormonized I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not one hundred percent done with this book I've been reading,

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<v Speaker 2>but so he may pop up again at a later point.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh sorry, my dog hold on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 3>Think you fun?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. Sorry, Oh okay, So.

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<v Speaker 3>You club, excuse me.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a new one for me. The Cloister Club. That's

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<v Speaker 6>a new one. I've never heard of that one.

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<v Speaker 2>So these were all like secret societies and he's some

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<v Speaker 2>big wig stockbroker and on the Cloister Club. I did

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<v Speaker 2>not deep dive, but I'm gonna I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Be right right now almost kind of like, how do

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<v Speaker 3>you take that? Serious?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Almost?

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<v Speaker 7>Club?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, are you trying to say blue oyster at the

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<v Speaker 4>same time, and you're fucking this up, Like what's going

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<v Speaker 4>on here?

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely all a New Haven business, it says, So this

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<v Speaker 2>is an eating club.

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<v Speaker 1>So like they like to enjoy meals together eating cloisters.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I think they're eating oysters and chatting.

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<v Speaker 1>So they went cloister.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why they called it that, but regardless,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what he did. So but so many clubs, right,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a joiner. He's a joiner, which means I suspect

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<v Speaker 2>he will come up again, just to guess that's just me.

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<v Speaker 2>He was known to be really flamboyant, a drinker, a stockbroker,

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<v Speaker 2>and he he had this nice life that he provided

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<v Speaker 2>for his family and these girls that he had. But

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<v Speaker 2>he was kind of a dick to his kids too.

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<v Speaker 2>He only liked Jackie, the other girl, and we'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>about her.

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<v Speaker 1>Too, Lee.

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<v Speaker 2>They just call her Lee, but she she kind of

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<v Speaker 2>got the raw end of the stick because Jackie looks

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<v Speaker 2>a lot like her dad, and so he's like, you're

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<v Speaker 2>the most beautiful daughter ever, and you're the best and

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<v Speaker 2>most beautiful. But I had a little ick factor because

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<v Speaker 2>he eventually is over this incest thing for the FBI.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, uh, I gotta.

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<v Speaker 2>Figure out what's happening there because there wasn't a lot

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<v Speaker 2>on it. And I just went oh. And she ended

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<v Speaker 2>up as close as she was to her dad, like

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<v Speaker 2>didn't forgive her mom for leaving him because he ended

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<v Speaker 2>up drinking, womanizing, not practicing stockbroking, I guess very much,

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<v Speaker 2>and losing his ass. So Mommy dearest, here she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm out. I need a better daddy. And it makes

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<v Speaker 2>you wonder, you know. And this is her, Janet Boovier.

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<v Speaker 2>The other girl Lee looked much like her. This is

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<v Speaker 2>Janet Lee. However, now I can't one hundred percent verify

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<v Speaker 2>this other than a few books, which books or authors

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<v Speaker 2>could lie their butts off, I don't know, but there

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<v Speaker 2>has been some talk in multiple books that I've read

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<v Speaker 2>her real last name was Levy l ev Why and

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<v Speaker 2>that she was you know, I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 2>want to say that word like Ashkenazi.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe will be better, but anyway, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>we're in trouble for that. Yeah, so right right, And

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't want to that.

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<v Speaker 3>So a few times.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, well so they say so they say and

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<v Speaker 2>the dad's complexion is super dark, and they do have

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<v Speaker 2>Irish descent too, so they're kind of up against a wall,

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<v Speaker 2>like they had to make money to kind of be

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<v Speaker 2>society ish, because I mean, it's been done. We know

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<v Speaker 2>about clay Shaw, but I'm just saying it's not as popular,

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<v Speaker 2>So no wonder he's a joiner right, like he's doing

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<v Speaker 2>all the things because who knows about his past. What

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<v Speaker 2>I will say that Jackie is said to have all

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<v Speaker 2>this poise and wonderfulness, and and I don't doubt that

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<v Speaker 2>she does because I've seen things about her. But I

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<v Speaker 2>will tell you her teacher said about this age, her

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<v Speaker 2>real school teacher, not not her writing teacher, which we

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<v Speaker 2>will get to. And she was extremely equestrian. She loved

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<v Speaker 2>horses and you're gonna love her, a questioned teacher. But

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<v Speaker 2>first the regular teacher said that girl is beautiful, and

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<v Speaker 2>that girl looks sweet, but she has the devil insider.

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<v Speaker 5>Direct quote uship with jise Laine and her father.

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<v Speaker 1>Wrongerd mm hmmmm hmm. I agree, one one kid that's

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<v Speaker 1>the best out of all right, And it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what makes what makes the difference? They say for her?

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<v Speaker 2>He would even say things to Lee like Jackie's the

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<v Speaker 2>most beautiful daughter a dad could ever want, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>just go away and so but Jackie and here are

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<v Speaker 2>super close. And then and then this divorce happens, and

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't end up walking her down the aisle, loses

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<v Speaker 2>his ass, so he dies relatively young of alcoholism. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like sixty four or sixty something, and I mean that

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<v Speaker 2>was the end of him. So he kind of just

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<v Speaker 2>fades off after this divorce. But this brings in some

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<v Speaker 2>very important players with her, her new stepdaddy.

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<v Speaker 1>And these are just one more picture of her equestrian stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Lee, the other daughter I wanted to include.

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<v Speaker 2>He seems you'll see another picture with him and Jackie

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<v Speaker 2>and the body just read the body language.

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<v Speaker 1>She is also uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>You can see her hands are in her pockets, she's stiff,

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<v Speaker 2>she's separated like it they had. I mean, it's everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>But even Jackie here with her arms folded like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, something's off with this family a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But whatever, it could just be a moment in time weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe she just didn't want to take the picture.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm just saying the incest guy thing

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<v Speaker 1>over the FBI. That was a little weird.

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<v Speaker 4>Not for nothing though, but like, can you go back

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<v Speaker 4>to the last picture, JJ, you remember that dude you

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<v Speaker 4>were showing last night on the screen bubbles. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean she doesn't look much different right there as a

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<v Speaker 4>female version of him.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean she looks like she looks.

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<v Speaker 3>So like she might be feeling a little down in

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<v Speaker 3>that picture.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it looks uncomfy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like half a nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, like everybody thinks like this and that about

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<v Speaker 4>the lady, but in that picture, she does not look

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<v Speaker 4>good the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, she looks upset. Yeah, she looks like irritated upset.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure which. But at this point, Jackie, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she well we'll go into that in a minute, but

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<v Speaker 2>she she's just visiting her dad's on weekends. So and

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<v Speaker 2>this new one comes into play, and this guy is

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<v Speaker 2>interesting and I need to do an even deeper dive

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<v Speaker 2>on him because he came up and it got a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit weird.

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<v Speaker 1>So she remarries two years after.

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<v Speaker 2>Jackie is so upset with this that she won't even

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<v Speaker 2>attend the wedding. And this guy is again Yale. And

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<v Speaker 2>also and before I get into who his best friends are.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we should talk about the equestrian teacher. So

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<v Speaker 2>her equestrian teacher, and if she isn't in on it, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm gonna tell you something right now that kind

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<v Speaker 2>whispers that she might have been a spy, And after

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<v Speaker 2>I read this, I could see why. So George demorn

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<v Speaker 1>She was well known.

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<v Speaker 4>Just real quick, just real quick, Hiti, when he said

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<v Speaker 4>you think it was like spy verse spy or spy

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<v Speaker 4>on spy with with her in Monroe? I mean, what

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<v Speaker 3>She's screwing them to.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone, she screwed them over right, everyone around him, other

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<v Speaker 2>than the people that aren't alive from being around him,

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<v Speaker 2>Like the reporter that he was having an affair with

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<v Speaker 6>The wife of the head of operations for CIA.

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<v Speaker 1>Right yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's another one too, yep, yep. And It's just

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of weird connections. Now I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>she was. Look, I'm just saying I've read a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of information on her that seems real weird. And when

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<v Speaker 2>you get into the real weird corner, you know, not

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<v Speaker 2>just Lee Harvey Oswald is surrounded by all these shady characters.

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<v Speaker 2>So is Jackie?

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<v Speaker 1>Like are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>When I read the George de Mornshield part, I just

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<v Speaker 2>went what And not only was she just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in a question, she just didn't go to lessons with

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<v Speaker 2>him and go home? No, no, No, Her dad, black

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<v Speaker 2>Jack's sister Michelle, and him dated and were inseparable, and

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<v Speaker 2>they would spend weeks together out at their summer place

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<v Speaker 1>And she called him uncle George, Uncle George.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow. I didn't really as he was in the US

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<v Speaker 6>that earlier. I thought he was doing some some spook

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<v Speaker 6>operations in the European you know regions. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>This is all from her personal memoirs book, So this

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<v Speaker 2>is her herself talking about this, And I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe he's still not settled here at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, they were giving him trouble about coming

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<v Speaker 2>here because they said you'res a double agent, you're a spy,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, no, no, no, I'm not a spy.

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<v Speaker 2>But nevertheless, I mean, that was mind blowing to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I never expected to find that. I was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh wow, and then it just kind of shocked.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't know that at all. That's wild because Morrishield

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<v Speaker 6>played such an important role in the whole Oswald portion

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<v Speaker 6>of the affair.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Oh yeah, I wonder about that, the Questionryan stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>I have actually come across that multiple times. I haven't

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned it every time because I didn't think much of

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<v Speaker 4>it at first. But like when we Fellowship of Friends,

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<v Speaker 4>there was somebody who I was tied to the place

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<v Speaker 4>that also was tied to a question in place. We

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<v Speaker 4>covered another cult and somebody was tied to a horse place.

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<v Speaker 4>When I covered the German place out in Long Island,

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<v Speaker 4>there was in a question in park right next to

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<v Speaker 4>that too. It seems like like what's up with the

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<v Speaker 4>horses is like something that maybe it's even just common

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<v Speaker 4>thing that's good for money. Wondering who the fuck knows.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, but I have noticed a question arts

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<v Speaker 4>or places specifically with weird people over the years of

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<v Speaker 4>doing this show, It's come up multiple times, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just like, this is weird.

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<v Speaker 6>Those best Friends in Southern Utah have an equestrian component

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<v Speaker 6>to their operation as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's right. Oh, I don't even think about that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you're here.

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<v Speaker 6>They have a number of horselers registered on their on

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<v Speaker 6>their registered vehicles list. I don't know how many horses

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<v Speaker 6>they have, but they have a number of horse trailers.

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<v Speaker 8>Are also somewhat of a statust symbol. You know what

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<v Speaker 8>I mean to say, I have a much money, big hole.

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<v Speaker 8>I will never rob anything.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think that's a way of maybe I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 4>to interrupt you, but like I know, Fellowship of Friends

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<v Speaker 4>was playing this game with like buying artifacts and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think that's even a way of like kind

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<v Speaker 4>of finaggling and moving money around?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I know you're buying something that might be

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<v Speaker 3>alive and could die.

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<v Speaker 5>But so when you know you transport horses, you would

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<v Speaker 5>transport them and.

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<v Speaker 8>Ungodly amount of money go into it.

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<v Speaker 5>And I believe that it's if I'm not wrong, if

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not mistaken, that because of the nature of moving

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<v Speaker 5>an animal, there's so many I guess things you can

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<v Speaker 5>slip in and out because of you're moving this animal privately, right,

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<v Speaker 5>and you're spending all this money, so you're not I

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<v Speaker 5>guess subjected to like the standard customs or whatever. Right,

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<v Speaker 5>But there are lots of people internationally that move horses

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<v Speaker 5>all the time for whatever, and it kind of just

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you never hear about it until you know something.

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<v Speaker 8>But so if you wanted to move something.

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<v Speaker 5>Kind of like with art, you could definitely do something

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<v Speaker 5>like that.

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<v Speaker 6>So I haven't thought about that A great point. I

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<v Speaker 6>said the same thing about the tigers with that Tiger

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<v Speaker 6>king share.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yes, probably why we have more tigers on Texas

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<v Speaker 5>than actually in the wild.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there was a guy, the guy on our

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<v Speaker 4>show where Caricardo, I mean, I don't, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>He might be onto something. I think maybe it was

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit drastic on his views about sports, but

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<v Speaker 4>he was saying he doesn't believe that soccer teams over

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<v Speaker 4>there could actually financially run, going by what they're actually

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<v Speaker 4>paying their players and what they're taking in. And he

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<v Speaker 4>says they have to obviously be doing something illegal in

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<v Speaker 4>order to stay open, and he thinks that's part of it,

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<v Speaker 4>is like running shit, because he's like these these players,

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<v Speaker 4>their buses, their ship, their planes never get balthered. They

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<v Speaker 4>just go wherever the fuck they want. Nobody bothers them,

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<v Speaker 4>nobody checks this ship. Yeah, he says, they may not

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<v Speaker 4>even know, but they could be being used of their transportation,

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<v Speaker 4>could be houling ship.

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<v Speaker 3>No idea.

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<v Speaker 4>He was just saying he doesn't think, and that is

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<v Speaker 4>something interesting to think about. I don't you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know how it is over there, and maybe over here,

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<v Speaker 4>I do think you probably could pay with the amount

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<v Speaker 4>of tickets things are for people to go watch here.

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<v Speaker 4>But he was saying it doesn't make sense, like if

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<v Speaker 4>you look at how much they pay some of their

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<v Speaker 4>players over there, like how the fuck are you actually

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<v Speaker 4>able to stay open every moment? Like where is all

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<v Speaker 4>that coming from?

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm not downplaying the whole horse thing by no means,

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<v Speaker 5>but I mean I always wanted a horse. I just

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<v Speaker 5>didn't have the money to afford it. And so you think,

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<v Speaker 5>like a lot of people love horses, but to have

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<v Speaker 5>it like that is it takes money. And I think

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<v Speaker 5>it's more of like a like a look what I

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<v Speaker 5>being in animal science. I know of certain people that

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<v Speaker 5>would be like I got that horse from Germany. I

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<v Speaker 5>got that horse from Hungary. I got that horse and

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<v Speaker 5>you're just like what And there there is like a

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<v Speaker 5>have enough money to and I think you know how

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<v Speaker 5>like it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a it's what people say that don't that don't

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<v Speaker 3>buy the right.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like a measuring contest, right two other rich people right.

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<v Speaker 8>See.

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<v Speaker 6>Anyway, it's culture in DC politics today. If you don't

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<v Speaker 6>own a horse farm in northern Virginia, you ain't ship

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<v Speaker 6>plait exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>But like like Max Send, it's a Louis status satus.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they probably all have bridles. No, no, don't be sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>This is I hope you guys interject because I can't

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<v Speaker 2>see and it will make for.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now.

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<v Speaker 5>One thing I was going to ask really quick, and

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<v Speaker 5>you may have mentioned this, so was she French or not?

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<v Speaker 1>So her dad?

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<v Speaker 2>Her dad was apart French, but he was also Irish,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why he was so dark.

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<v Speaker 1>And he just like used that and was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just tan. I love to tan.

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<v Speaker 5>So when you say when you say and you brought

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<v Speaker 5>up the zi and we talk about French, the first

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<v Speaker 5>thing that comes to mind, is the pink Chanel suit

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<v Speaker 5>that she wore during the assassination, and Coco had align

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<v Speaker 5>herself with Hitler and so as a way to kind

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<v Speaker 5>of keep her shop because she was trying to you know,

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<v Speaker 5>when they invaded France, they were ransacking everything, and she

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<v Speaker 5>was trying to align herself with it so that she

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<v Speaker 5>could at least keep most of what she had built

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<v Speaker 5>and too right, and.

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<v Speaker 6>She ends up Adidas.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, she she ends up somewhat losing that war when

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<v Speaker 5>she goes up against a competition with Esta Laud because

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<v Speaker 8>And so it's interesting, that's all.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not know that Chanelle went back that and

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<v Speaker 2>she is well known for being a Chanelle girl, despite

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that the White House was like, hey, bruh,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody can afford this crap. But but you know, she

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<v Speaker 2>continued she didn't give a crap either. Maybe that's why

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<v Speaker 2>her dad went bro You know what that is?

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<v Speaker 4>That is kind of interesting if if there was a

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<v Speaker 4>it's just interesting how the right will glorify these people.

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<v Speaker 4>But yet if AOC was to walk in with the

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<v Speaker 4>on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 3>Why is it.

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<v Speaker 1>Acceptable because they're the elite.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just weird, like mind games people have played with

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<v Speaker 4>when it comes to politics, right, if you want to

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<v Speaker 4>entertain politics, you have to literally sell your morals and

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<v Speaker 4>values because they can never make sense to justify your

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<v Speaker 4>belief in politics. If you want to pick a side,

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<v Speaker 4>you will have to literally go against your own morals

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<v Speaker 4>and values and like kind of flip flop on yourself

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<v Speaker 4>to make sense.

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<v Speaker 6>These folks were reality TV though, right. I mean, there

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<v Speaker 6>the Kennedy in a Nassis situation.

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<v Speaker 5>With very much so what Jackie War everybody wanted to wear,

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<v Speaker 5>same thing with Priscilla.

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<v Speaker 8>What Priscilla War. Everybody wanted to wear This was the trend.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, well they did copy her style and they

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<v Speaker 2>tried to make knockoffs of course, and then that makes

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<v Speaker 2>more money for the elites as well, because then they

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<v Speaker 2>can sell, you know, pieces that are similar and continue

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<v Speaker 2>you know, getting more like basically advertising through the goyam,

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<v Speaker 2>right for the elites, like, oh, these.

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<v Speaker 1>People are wearing it, so now we need to change

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<v Speaker 1>it up. That's what I assume happens.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's what I guess because they don't want

428
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<v Speaker 2>to be the same as everybody else. Ever, so that

429
00:21:57.559 --> 00:22:00.200
<v Speaker 2>keeps them in business because then if everybody but he

430
00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:03.599
<v Speaker 2>does copy Jackie, then Jackie needs a new one. So

431
00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:06.559
<v Speaker 2>then Jackie just continues to benefit from that. I'm sure

432
00:22:06.759 --> 00:22:10.960
<v Speaker 2>that's just a guess. But with Chanelle constantly putting out

433
00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:15.680
<v Speaker 2>new things, you know, on her behalf. But yeah, she

434
00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:20.240
<v Speaker 2>was very well known to be extremely interested in money.

435
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<v Speaker 2>And I'll give you guys a quote here in a bit,

436
00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:26.279
<v Speaker 2>but well I could just give it now. O. Nassas's

437
00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:30.799
<v Speaker 2>daughter said, and I quote, Jackie was the most mercenary

438
00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:37.279
<v Speaker 2>person I've ever met. She thinks, talks, dreams, and eats

439
00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:40.319
<v Speaker 2>only about thinking of money constantly.

440
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<v Speaker 5>I'm so glad you said that, Heidi, because if you

441
00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:47.480
<v Speaker 5>read some of the stuff that of Nacas's daughter says

442
00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:53.839
<v Speaker 5>about Jackie, it's one eighty from whatever of Jackie. And

443
00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:59.720
<v Speaker 5>she was bitter about that marriage. She was bitter about Jackie,

444
00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:04.039
<v Speaker 5>and they were trying to take some of her inherent

445
00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:06.200
<v Speaker 5>beause she was the only wasn't she the only child

446
00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:08.599
<v Speaker 5>of Vasa's right and.

447
00:23:08.519 --> 00:23:12.000
<v Speaker 1>She had a relationship with her, the only a live child,

448
00:23:12.119 --> 00:23:16.279
<v Speaker 1>and there were laws there were laws against what Jackie did.

449
00:23:16.559 --> 00:23:19.200
<v Speaker 2>So this is kind of at the end, but we

450
00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:21.480
<v Speaker 2>can flip it here now because I mean we can

451
00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:26.759
<v Speaker 2>talk whenever about onassas, But onassas he began to see

452
00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:31.000
<v Speaker 2>some things his daughter was saying, and he finally.

453
00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I think he tried to drive her to divorce. And

454
00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you guys know.

455
00:23:35.240 --> 00:23:38.200
<v Speaker 2>And I didn't put the gigantic bush picture in here

456
00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:42.079
<v Speaker 2>because even with it doled out, you can just see.

457
00:23:42.119 --> 00:23:45.640
<v Speaker 2>But he had this island where he knew that she

458
00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:49.599
<v Speaker 2>would sunbathe naked all the time, and he did her

459
00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:51.440
<v Speaker 2>dirty and he sold.

460
00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:54.519
<v Speaker 1>Like he told them, hey, go be here.

461
00:23:54.359 --> 00:23:57.920
<v Speaker 2>At this time penthouse I think it was Penthouse and

462
00:23:58.079 --> 00:24:01.240
<v Speaker 2>take these photos of her butt naked, and he already

463
00:24:01.240 --> 00:24:04.160
<v Speaker 2>had pre sold the rights to them, and they ran

464
00:24:04.279 --> 00:24:07.200
<v Speaker 2>it and she was livid. She thought it was just

465
00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:13.000
<v Speaker 2>them doing it and caught her, But no, he actually

466
00:24:13.039 --> 00:24:15.680
<v Speaker 2>set that up, and she demanded him to use his

467
00:24:15.720 --> 00:24:18.160
<v Speaker 2>money and influence to try and go squash it.

468
00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:21.200
<v Speaker 1>And she's just laughing. I'm sure.

469
00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:24.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was set up by him, So I

470
00:24:24.559 --> 00:24:26.480
<v Speaker 2>think he was trying to drive her to leave at

471
00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:30.079
<v Speaker 2>some point because you'll see their body language and a

472
00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:32.960
<v Speaker 2>few pictures and stuff that I have, but like they

473
00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:35.839
<v Speaker 2>kind of hated each other quickly. I almost feel like

474
00:24:35.920 --> 00:24:39.680
<v Speaker 2>they got married because there's some sketchy stuff going on.

475
00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:42.960
<v Speaker 6>And Clio I was wondering that same thing. Why were

476
00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:46.519
<v Speaker 6>they married, Hidie? Why was she married John f K? Either?

477
00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:48.519
<v Speaker 6>You know? Either care We'll.

478
00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Get into that one.

479
00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:52.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's get well, we'll get to that. Well, we'll

480
00:24:52.839 --> 00:24:55.640
<v Speaker 2>hold on to it. But I'm telling you, guys, something

481
00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:57.000
<v Speaker 2>is not right.

482
00:24:57.960 --> 00:24:59.640
<v Speaker 6>What is it? Do you think brought these two together?

483
00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:01.079
<v Speaker 6>These to love birds?

484
00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:05.480
<v Speaker 1>NASAs? Okay, we'll do on Nassas. I have pictures and

485
00:25:05.519 --> 00:25:06.240
<v Speaker 1>stuff for JFK.

486
00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:11.359
<v Speaker 2>But Onnasas offered her something that she couldn't get here,

487
00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:16.279
<v Speaker 2>and it was at a time when she was absolutely desperate,

488
00:25:16.319 --> 00:25:19.160
<v Speaker 2>and he had been there for her a time before this,

489
00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:22.640
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people don't know this. So her

490
00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:28.200
<v Speaker 2>sister Lee actually introduced them, and she had the hots

491
00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:31.079
<v Speaker 2>for on Nassas and she was very much in love

492
00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:33.880
<v Speaker 2>with him. This is why her and her sister also

493
00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:37.880
<v Speaker 2>don't get along. There were bitter they fought like cats

494
00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:41.480
<v Speaker 2>and dogs. Even in her will, she gave her a

495
00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:46.440
<v Speaker 2>big f you. Jackie did to her sister. So there

496
00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:50.680
<v Speaker 2>was always rivalry starting with these parents. The mother very

497
00:25:50.799 --> 00:25:54.000
<v Speaker 2>much favored Lee, the dad favorite Jackie. So this was

498
00:25:54.039 --> 00:25:59.759
<v Speaker 2>always a constant competition business. It was very odd and Lee,

499
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:06.119
<v Speaker 2>actually you had married very well to do, but then

500
00:26:06.279 --> 00:26:09.039
<v Speaker 2>it fell through and she had met on Assis and

501
00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:12.720
<v Speaker 2>she knew that Jackie was sad and they were going

502
00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:16.799
<v Speaker 2>on a cruise and Jackie was sad because she had

503
00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:21.599
<v Speaker 2>just lost her first baby and the name of that

504
00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:26.839
<v Speaker 2>baby was Arabella. And when she lost that baby, JFK

505
00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:30.000
<v Speaker 2>was nowhere to be found. Not only did she lose

506
00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:32.839
<v Speaker 2>that baby, but the baby before that was a miscarriage,

507
00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:36.240
<v Speaker 2>so she was a high risk pregnancy. And this baby

508
00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:40.039
<v Speaker 2>was a full born, like stillborn. And when they told

509
00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:42.359
<v Speaker 2>jack about it, he was with his girlfriend. He was

510
00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:45.319
<v Speaker 2>not in the area. I can't remember which girlfriend it was,

511
00:26:46.119 --> 00:26:49.279
<v Speaker 2>but this was his answer to her requesting he'd come home,

512
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:53.440
<v Speaker 2>as she is freaking out because she's delivered a stillborn baby.

513
00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:56.079
<v Speaker 2>He said, the kid's dead. What do you want me

514
00:26:56.119 --> 00:26:56.759
<v Speaker 2>to do about it?

515
00:26:58.519 --> 00:26:59.759
<v Speaker 1>And that's quote.

516
00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:04.279
<v Speaker 6>So they had a history before they linked up post

517
00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:06.720
<v Speaker 6>post Jeff Kasemer, they had a bit of a history there.

518
00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:07.799
<v Speaker 6>Old age.

519
00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so she begged for him to take her, like

520
00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:15.160
<v Speaker 2>to allow her to go on this on Nassas cruise.

521
00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:16.920
<v Speaker 1>They say she begged.

522
00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:19.200
<v Speaker 2>I think she played her cards, like you're cheating all

523
00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:24.359
<v Speaker 2>the time. Whatever, screw it, right, Lad, you're with your girlfriend? Yeah,

524
00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:26.319
<v Speaker 2>with some of her. And I don't know if this

525
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:26.720
<v Speaker 2>is true.

526
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:31.119
<v Speaker 5>But wasn't some of her problems with her pregnancies due

527
00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:34.039
<v Speaker 5>to a needing disorder because of what she claimed what

528
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:35.519
<v Speaker 5>she was going through with Jack.

529
00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:39.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, she claims that, but also she was, and this

530
00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:41.680
<v Speaker 2>is from her memoirs, which she wrote a whole bunch

531
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:44.799
<v Speaker 2>of letters, she was a pretty bad alcoholic.

532
00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:48.880
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know when that started makes sense? Uh huh?

533
00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:52.079
<v Speaker 2>And so I kind of wonder, like what's happening there?

534
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:57.759
<v Speaker 2>But the baby's always right. She's thirty nine, he's sixty something,

535
00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:01.160
<v Speaker 2>and she taught so that.

536
00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:05.079
<v Speaker 6>Did she know that he was possibly involved in JFK's murder?

537
00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:09.599
<v Speaker 6>Or did he kill JFK because he loved Big Bush?

538
00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Right? You ought to see it. It's fantastic. I can't

539
00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:14.559
<v Speaker 1>even imagine.

540
00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:18.720
<v Speaker 8>But she did her protection, she did.

541
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:21.079
<v Speaker 6>I think, right, But wasn't he supposedly involved in all

542
00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:21.559
<v Speaker 6>that jazz?

543
00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:25.519
<v Speaker 2>He's definitely involved with Mayhew, and he's definitely involved right

544
00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:26.359
<v Speaker 2>on that side.

545
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:28.359
<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep, yep. I got a I got a paper

546
00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:28.680
<v Speaker 1>on that.

547
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:32.160
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know that she knew or didn't know, right.

548
00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:34.079
<v Speaker 2>It depends on if we believe. And I know this

549
00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:35.920
<v Speaker 2>is a crappy copy, but this is what you get

550
00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:36.960
<v Speaker 2>from the archives.

551
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>But this is.

552
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Talking about how he will be in charge or NASAs

553
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:44.920
<v Speaker 2>will be in charge of all the Saudi oil tankers

554
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:47.480
<v Speaker 2>and he's going to have the rights to that shipping.

555
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:50.839
<v Speaker 2>So he's involved one hundred percent. And there's a bunch

556
00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:52.599
<v Speaker 2>more with him and Mayhew. I just didn't want to

557
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:55.359
<v Speaker 2>bombard it, like I feel like, Okay, here's at least one.

558
00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:58.599
<v Speaker 1>You can go check it out. There's like thirty of them.

559
00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Mayhew was always involved in everything, and may he was

560
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:06.400
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent involved with this. And then we get

561
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Demur and Shield involved on this other side of it,

562
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:13.400
<v Speaker 2>and we're also going to introduce another character, her stepdad

563
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:17.240
<v Speaker 2>and and and you're the you'll see it's just like

564
00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:21.559
<v Speaker 2>Lee Harvey Oswald. I don't know that Jack stood a chance, honestly,

565
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:22.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

566
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I look at this and.

567
00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:28.319
<v Speaker 2>I think, oh my gosh, because once you find out

568
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:31.519
<v Speaker 2>who he's surrounded by, and.

569
00:29:31.480 --> 00:29:32.279
<v Speaker 1>Then his dad.

570
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:36.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, oh wow, so this guy comes into

571
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:38.720
<v Speaker 2>huge play. This is her stepdad and the mom and

572
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:44.519
<v Speaker 2>their family together. And his name is Auchenclaw Auchincloss. It's

573
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:50.640
<v Speaker 2>hard Hugh d Auchincloss, graduate yep of Yale and Columbia.

574
00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:52.559
<v Speaker 1>But guess who his best friend is? Do you know?

575
00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:57.400
<v Speaker 6>JJ h were freshment memory? Please? I was more familiar

576
00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:00.799
<v Speaker 6>with his grandson, Hugh number three.

577
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:05.519
<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir, okay, So Auchincloss is Alan Atlas's best friend.

578
00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:11.160
<v Speaker 6>Oh that's right, there we go. I believe was a

579
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:12.400
<v Speaker 6>fauci under as well.

580
00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:13.599
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

581
00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:17.759
<v Speaker 2>And it's very funny to me that you can see

582
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:20.039
<v Speaker 2>it just like you can see it with Lee Harvey Oswald.

583
00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:24.319
<v Speaker 1>It's like the whole circle, sure, and you're just like

584
00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:26.599
<v Speaker 1>the only one I'm not sure of.

585
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:29.799
<v Speaker 2>And not to say he was a better man, but

586
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:32.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to tell you this is Bobby bucked the

587
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:38.039
<v Speaker 2>system harshly and his dad like there were issues with

588
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:38.839
<v Speaker 2>him and his dad.

589
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:40.599
<v Speaker 1>I also, I just.

590
00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Wonder how much you know Bobby's influence there with trying

591
00:30:46.200 --> 00:30:48.680
<v Speaker 2>to do the quote unquote right thing and whether that

592
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:51.759
<v Speaker 2>was for gain or for his family or just because

593
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:54.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure, because he was pissing off every person

594
00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:58.039
<v Speaker 2>that his dad made buddies with, Right, doesn't make any sense,

595
00:30:58.799 --> 00:30:59.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

596
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:02.519
<v Speaker 6>Right, And there's the dullest boys are always around the situation, right,

597
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:03.519
<v Speaker 6>especially with the Nazis.

598
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:06.680
<v Speaker 2>And then we talk about, yes, she brought up Chanel,

599
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:09.759
<v Speaker 2>we know that the Dullest brothers funded sixty.

600
00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:11.599
<v Speaker 1>Percent of the war for the Nazis.

601
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:15.759
<v Speaker 6>So like they were the ones behind that.

602
00:31:16.559 --> 00:31:21.079
<v Speaker 2>Yep, And you just shake your head. And then they

603
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:24.079
<v Speaker 2>made all their money when Joe did you know, like

604
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:35.880
<v Speaker 2>everybody knew about actually, and JP Morgan also literally no, really, yeah,

605
00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:40.920
<v Speaker 2>it's right here. And so when we talk about this,

606
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:43.640
<v Speaker 2>when we talk about all these things, you're like, wait

607
00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:47.599
<v Speaker 2>what And you find out like all this stuff goes

608
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:51.000
<v Speaker 2>back to old money every single time. That's where JJ's

609
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:53.279
<v Speaker 2>right that I think it always goes back to these

610
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:57.519
<v Speaker 2>really old societies. It's crazy, I mean, and they're all

611
00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Yelle graduates. Every single person I've told you so far

612
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:02.279
<v Speaker 2>except Jack yourself is a Yale graduate.

613
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:05.640
<v Speaker 6>Your discovery of the Bouvier's being a member of the

614
00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:09.319
<v Speaker 6>Society of Cincinnati Heritage was a brand new discovery for me.

615
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:12.079
<v Speaker 6>So that was that was awesome stuff because they're part

616
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:14.599
<v Speaker 6>of the French side. They're part of the French chapter.

617
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:19.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I told those those French ones are important, man,

618
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:23.440
<v Speaker 4>m h. I just like saying something.

619
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:27.200
<v Speaker 6>Strange because the French are far more prominent here than they.

620
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:30.359
<v Speaker 6>I got my own thoughts about these French folkus and

621
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:37.000
<v Speaker 6>they're silly games. But the chapter America because they got banned, well,

622
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:38.720
<v Speaker 6>I got a lot of problems with them, but that

623
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:41.240
<v Speaker 6>may be one of them. Morning learning about Martinism thanks

624
00:32:41.240 --> 00:32:45.039
<v Speaker 6>to your your your recent one of our recent discussions there, Heidi.

625
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:50.359
<v Speaker 6>But the French Society chapter of the Cincinnati Saudi Cincinnati

626
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:54.519
<v Speaker 6>Chapter was banned from France until nineteen twenty five. So

627
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:58.640
<v Speaker 6>I didn't you know the Bonapartes, the Boo Vias, and

628
00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:00.880
<v Speaker 6>when now I've got the Boo Vias and as the DuPonts.

629
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:03.200
<v Speaker 6>These are the families of the French side of the

630
00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:06.200
<v Speaker 6>chapter that I'm now familiar with. I'm only more recently

631
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:09.519
<v Speaker 6>familiarizing myself with these things. But for a great example

632
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:11.960
<v Speaker 6>of the power of these folks still wheeled as I

633
00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:15.400
<v Speaker 6>allege and oftentimes and shocks when I find new discoveries

634
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:18.279
<v Speaker 6>like Heidi found with the Bouvier's. Here there's a guy

635
00:33:18.359 --> 00:33:21.200
<v Speaker 6>named Guy do Plantier. He was the aide de camp

636
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:24.359
<v Speaker 6>to Marquis de Lafayette. I agree these names sound like

637
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:27.480
<v Speaker 6>fraggle rock, but they were real people, and he was

638
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.440
<v Speaker 6>the general of the French side. And his assistant Guy

639
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:34.599
<v Speaker 6>who Plantier. Guy who Plantier number five is a district

640
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:38.079
<v Speaker 6>court judge in Louisiana still today. So these people still

641
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:41.440
<v Speaker 6>maintain power throughout the centuries and these generations with these

642
00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:43.880
<v Speaker 6>groups and the Bouvia seem like an interesting fund.

643
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>And how often does New Orleans come up with the

644
00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:48.680
<v Speaker 1>French connection, like it's all over the place.

645
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:51.759
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they run that place still. I think the French

646
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:53.119
<v Speaker 6>do well.

647
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>And they were involved with JFK.

648
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:58.079
<v Speaker 5>You know what's interesting is when you say the full

649
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:02.240
<v Speaker 5>French connection, and especially New Orleans and you know, most

650
00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:02.839
<v Speaker 5>of this stuff.

651
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:04.880
<v Speaker 8>I don't know if it's if it's.

652
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:07.920
<v Speaker 5>Mainstream or common knowledge now, but it was common knowledge

653
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:10.599
<v Speaker 5>at some point. And the connection with Lee Harvey also, well,

654
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:13.800
<v Speaker 5>when we talk about JFK, but you know Lee Harvey,

655
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:16.880
<v Speaker 5>look for the Ausner Clinic and that's where they were

656
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:22.800
<v Speaker 5>weaponizing cancer. And so it's very very interesting you say

657
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:24.639
<v Speaker 5>that about New Orleans and JFK.

658
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:27.559
<v Speaker 1>They had that whole branch out.

659
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:31.760
<v Speaker 7>There that was another former Nazi, right, hm, completely involved

660
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:37.679
<v Speaker 7>and then sound under Dola because Dolas is best buddies

661
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:38.119
<v Speaker 7>with the.

662
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Step dad who ends up remember how close she is,

663
00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:44.000
<v Speaker 2>you know with her dad. He doesn't walk her down

664
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:48.480
<v Speaker 2>the aisle. Guys, there's some kind of riff that happens eventually,

665
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:51.639
<v Speaker 2>and it just says, oh he was He just was drunk,

666
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.519
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, uh.

667
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:58.280
<v Speaker 1>He loved her a lot, maybe too much, I don't know.

668
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:03.559
<v Speaker 2>But she has this guy ack'n class walker down the

669
00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:04.960
<v Speaker 2>aisle to JFK.

670
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:07.679
<v Speaker 1>So I just think it's weird.

671
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:10.840
<v Speaker 2>So they set her right, yeah, and then they set

672
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:14.519
<v Speaker 2>her up with this job. And this job she gets

673
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:23.079
<v Speaker 2>is for photography underneath the CIA, and she interviews important senators.

674
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:24.559
<v Speaker 1>Ie. That's how she met JFK.

675
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:28.519
<v Speaker 2>And she did a whole piece on him. These are

676
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:30.760
<v Speaker 2>just a couple of pictures of her, and this is

677
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:37.000
<v Speaker 2>the piece inquiring camera girl. So these are that's when

678
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:43.199
<v Speaker 2>she did JFK's and he wasn't really interested at all. Now,

679
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:48.079
<v Speaker 2>though we know Jack is very interesting with his decisions

680
00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:53.679
<v Speaker 2>with women, there's some other things that come up while

681
00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Jackie is becoming this really you know, debutante, the prettiest one,

682
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:05.119
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. Jack's a little busy Jackson school and

683
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:07.199
<v Speaker 2>hanging out all the time with this guy.

684
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Uh, this is his buddy, his best friend, and he's gay.

685
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:19.119
<v Speaker 1>And he admits that the body language between him this is.

686
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:22.000
<v Speaker 6>What's his name, lim Limb, Limb something.

687
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, Right, he did. Yep.

688
00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:32.159
<v Speaker 2>He often slept in his with him and they're just friends.

689
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:34.639
<v Speaker 2>They're just friends. I don't know that I've ever seen

690
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:35.679
<v Speaker 2>my husband take a picture.

691
00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:38.000
<v Speaker 6>Those in the JFK release files and they have the

692
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:38.880
<v Speaker 6>Limb files in there.

693
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:42.599
<v Speaker 1>They didn't. No, I don't think we're going to hear

694
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:46.920
<v Speaker 1>them files in the JFK released No.

695
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:50.559
<v Speaker 2>No, it needed to be because here's the thing that

696
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:54.960
<v Speaker 2>people say, Jackie could never have done that she loved him. Okay,

697
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:57.639
<v Speaker 2>you guys, I just told you what he said when

698
00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:02.239
<v Speaker 2>their baby died, second baby that died. Then he's got

699
00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:04.960
<v Speaker 2>this dude living in the White House and he's sleeping

700
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:08.119
<v Speaker 2>with a ton of women. On top of it. I mean,

701
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I think she could have killed his ass. I'm just saying,

702
00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:13.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't care how much you love somebody, you can

703
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:16.360
<v Speaker 2>only be pissed off so many times before you might

704
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:17.800
<v Speaker 2>snap if you got connections.

705
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:20.920
<v Speaker 1>She didn't have to do it. I mean, still bad.

706
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:25.960
<v Speaker 6>It seems like they were all into some weird sexual

707
00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:28.320
<v Speaker 6>activities amongst all these folks. That's what it seems like

708
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:28.559
<v Speaker 6>to me.

709
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:31.320
<v Speaker 2>Do you know about the White House parties where he

710
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:33.519
<v Speaker 2>would make all the girls jump in the pool and

711
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:35.320
<v Speaker 2>take off their bathing suits, and then he would get

712
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:37.679
<v Speaker 2>all the bathing suits and take them so he would

713
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:39.599
<v Speaker 2>like talk them into jumping in the pool and then

714
00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:40.480
<v Speaker 2>he's like, too.

715
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:42.639
<v Speaker 1>Bad, got your bathing suit. You gotta get out naked.

716
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:48.679
<v Speaker 2>This is from one of his bodyguards, So.

717
00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:49.400
<v Speaker 6>He does not sound like the camelot that I was

718
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:50.400
<v Speaker 6>described in the paper.

719
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:57.400
<v Speaker 1>This is a very swinging camelot the sixties.

720
00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:05.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is camelot, but it was so much not right.

721
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:08.719
<v Speaker 2>I think they just knew how to make a pretty face.

722
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Because here's the thing. Okay, if you just had a

723
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:15.880
<v Speaker 2>baby dye and everybody in the world's watching you, are

724
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:18.440
<v Speaker 2>you really going to go on a millionaire's yah instead

725
00:38:18.440 --> 00:38:19.679
<v Speaker 2>of you with your husband and cry?

726
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:22.199
<v Speaker 1>That seems crazy?

727
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:25.559
<v Speaker 3>WOA. No, I'd hate to tell you to sure.

728
00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:28.320
<v Speaker 4>I do think some people that live that life could

729
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:31.000
<v Speaker 4>actually be that, you know, that fucked up.

730
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:33.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not even think much about it.

731
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:35.119
<v Speaker 1>But everybody's watching them.

732
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:36.639
<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, I guess that's true.

733
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:40.920
<v Speaker 1>It was bad, yeah, bad timing.

734
00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:43.199
<v Speaker 2>This is a close up of her and her sister

735
00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:47.159
<v Speaker 2>and and they're they also during this time when she's

736
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:51.159
<v Speaker 2>a photographer, they decide, right, and I want to I

737
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:55.000
<v Speaker 2>want to historically give you the like what was happening

738
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:57.280
<v Speaker 2>in the world when they decide to do this. They

739
00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:02.159
<v Speaker 2>go in nineteen fifty one ants and do this wonderful

740
00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:06.159
<v Speaker 2>European tour right as Doulas is trying to take over

741
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:10.000
<v Speaker 2>and you know, out the president of France.

742
00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:12.280
<v Speaker 1>So maybe she was a spy.

743
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm like, dude, she spoke all these languages, she's

744
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:19.960
<v Speaker 2>got the ind like, I don't know, I don't know.

745
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:23.559
<v Speaker 1>It seems like they literally train her from a kid.

746
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:27.199
<v Speaker 1>They've got all these weird people around her, like Demor

747
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:30.400
<v Speaker 1>and Shield and Dolas and all these people. And I'm like,

748
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:33.360
<v Speaker 1>what is happening here? You guys really all that close

749
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:36.440
<v Speaker 1>like that every person we research, it's like, oh, and

750
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:41.440
<v Speaker 1>they were best friends with his sister's cousin Okay, well.

751
00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:43.360
<v Speaker 6>I mean it goes at right along with what I

752
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:46.039
<v Speaker 6>when I claimed out Lee Harvey Oswald Heidi is the

753
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:48.519
<v Speaker 6>reason why he got repped into spooke ax heavies from

754
00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:51.079
<v Speaker 6>a young age is because he came from the same

755
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:55.119
<v Speaker 6>club that she came from, the Society of the Cincinnati exactly.

756
00:39:56.039 --> 00:39:59.320
<v Speaker 1>That's the point. And when we look at all these

757
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:02.760
<v Speaker 1>old rich guys, right, they're they're all the nads and

758
00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:06.880
<v Speaker 1>they're setting it up. You know, there's definitely so.

759
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:10.519
<v Speaker 6>She's over in France and fifty one trying to I

760
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:11.840
<v Speaker 6>apologize what you're saying. They're ready.

761
00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, that's so, they say, they but she definitely

762
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:17.960
<v Speaker 2>went on the trip. They say it was just this

763
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:20.360
<v Speaker 2>we're going to go to Europe thing, but like it

764
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:24.280
<v Speaker 2>was at the same exact time, and so it goes.

765
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:27.559
<v Speaker 1>It's weird, you know, it just makes for a very

766
00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:31.079
<v Speaker 1>super story. Yeah, I just think it's weird.

767
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:33.760
<v Speaker 2>And I think that there were a lot of connections

768
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:38.199
<v Speaker 2>with famous princes and famous people that they're going and

769
00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:42.159
<v Speaker 2>talking to, and she's got all these different connects and

770
00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:44.119
<v Speaker 2>she can speak all these languages, like.

771
00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:48.519
<v Speaker 1>Come on, that totally sounds like a spy. And they

772
00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:49.559
<v Speaker 1>don't say anything else.

773
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:55.280
<v Speaker 6>So did they meet an asses on the so they

774
00:40:55.840 --> 00:40:56.440
<v Speaker 6>of Europe.

775
00:40:56.920 --> 00:40:59.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if Lee met him then, but she

776
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:03.400
<v Speaker 2>did hook up and hook up actually and meet him later.

777
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:08.440
<v Speaker 8>And you know it is that Gabrielle Chanel.

778
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:16.199
<v Speaker 1>What's that there? Oh? This one, it's her sister. That's Lee.

779
00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:20.960
<v Speaker 8>She literally looks like Coca Shanel. She was young.

780
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:25.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is uh Lee Bouvier. And and I can

781
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:28.079
<v Speaker 2>see why they you know, the mom. She looks like

782
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:29.679
<v Speaker 2>the mom, and she looks like the dad. I see

783
00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:31.559
<v Speaker 2>why the parents were being weird. I mean, you shouldn't

784
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:35.199
<v Speaker 2>do that. I mean if you if you like your

785
00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:38.360
<v Speaker 2>spouse like this is how I feel, and the baby

786
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:41.599
<v Speaker 2>comes out and looks like them, then that's a good thing, right,

787
00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:45.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, that's what I thought, but whatever. At

788
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:48.719
<v Speaker 2>some point, you know, with all this, you know, I'm

789
00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:50.039
<v Speaker 2>your photographer, lady.

790
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:53.599
<v Speaker 1>They meet three times. There is a lot of reverse.

791
00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:54.960
<v Speaker 2>That.

792
00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:56.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, he was more on the.

793
00:41:56.559 --> 00:41:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Mail liking side at that point, and that his dad

794
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:02.880
<v Speaker 2>is like, you have got to get married.

795
00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:05.559
<v Speaker 1>This is ridiculous. He's running for senate at the time.

796
00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:10.840
<v Speaker 2>She doesn't even say yes, Okay, they get engaged, but

797
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:14.239
<v Speaker 2>guess how long it takes her to answer him when

798
00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:19.559
<v Speaker 2>he asks. It's quite weird. Thirty days. She waits a

799
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:22.320
<v Speaker 2>freaking month. I think they had to pay her off.

800
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:25.760
<v Speaker 2>If it's true what they say about her and that

801
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:30.320
<v Speaker 2>she loved money more than anything else, I mean, it

802
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:32.760
<v Speaker 2>makes a lot of sense. I also heard there were

803
00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:36.039
<v Speaker 2>stipulations in the marriage that if he ever brought home

804
00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:38.599
<v Speaker 2>at STD to her, she got like a big chunk

805
00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:41.440
<v Speaker 2>of money in the millions from daddy.

806
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:44.039
<v Speaker 1>From Daddy Joe, I'd like.

807
00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:45.960
<v Speaker 6>To be the attorney to negotiates that contract.

808
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:51.559
<v Speaker 2>So weird, right, like, ay, you brought home the clap,

809
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:52.599
<v Speaker 2>now I get your money.

810
00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:56.000
<v Speaker 1>But like, okay, that's weird.

811
00:42:56.079 --> 00:43:00.320
<v Speaker 2>But nevertheless, the wedding does finally occur and they do

812
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:04.320
<v Speaker 2>get married. You know, at this point, she's kind of

813
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.039
<v Speaker 2>trolling around with him, like I said, until the baby

814
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:09.320
<v Speaker 2>loss and then and that was enough of that. She

815
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:11.400
<v Speaker 2>she quit doing that a lot of the times unless

816
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:13.280
<v Speaker 2>he like absolutely begged her.

817
00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Because of the fact that that picture is out of order,

818
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:21.639
<v Speaker 1>don't she look a little fucking crazy?

819
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:21.880
<v Speaker 2>She?

820
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I think she looks right here, like I'm still happy.

821
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:32.280
<v Speaker 3>My husband said, Hi, Pop, I don't know how to

822
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:32.559
<v Speaker 3>say it.

823
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:34.840
<v Speaker 4>That sounds screwed up, But like, have you ever seen

824
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:36.840
<v Speaker 4>on the internet when they want to start accusing people

825
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:39.000
<v Speaker 4>of having like retardles.

826
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:43.239
<v Speaker 1>If they're too far apart, right, I mean, she's far apart.

827
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:46.599
<v Speaker 4>To be totally honest with you, I've never really looked

828
00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:48.119
<v Speaker 4>at the lady this much, And just from the pictures

829
00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:49.920
<v Speaker 4>you've shown, I don't get why so many people told

830
00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:50.559
<v Speaker 4>she was attractive.

831
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:57.000
<v Speaker 3>She looks like something's wrong with her. Actually, I think.

832
00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:01.239
<v Speaker 2>My guess is this if she was alcoholic, my guess

833
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:03.039
<v Speaker 2>is her mother was as well, and this is a

834
00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:05.039
<v Speaker 2>clinical and beautiful alcoholic.

835
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:05.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

836
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:08.199
<v Speaker 8>I could see that.

837
00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:11.280
<v Speaker 6>That's exactly what I was thinking. Yeah, a lot of drunks,

838
00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:12.039
<v Speaker 6>A lot of drunks.

839
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:12.880
<v Speaker 3>Yea for nothing.

840
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:14.639
<v Speaker 4>You take that picture right there, and you give those

841
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:16.559
<v Speaker 4>head shots and you're saying, these are the these are

842
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:19.039
<v Speaker 4>the faces of the attractive people of the United States.

843
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:20.639
<v Speaker 3>That's pretty fucking shitty, man.

844
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:26.239
<v Speaker 6>Right, your headshots the appropriate.

845
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:30.679
<v Speaker 1>Beliou?

846
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:34.920
<v Speaker 2>So, Yeah, they do have this marriage, but there were

847
00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:38.119
<v Speaker 2>often times, and they do say they go back and

848
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:44.119
<v Speaker 2>forth about like okay, you know, did she pick his paramours?

849
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:46.880
<v Speaker 2>That's a very French thing to do. They say she did,

850
00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:51.159
<v Speaker 2>except for Marylynd. She did not like Marilyn. She was

851
00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:53.599
<v Speaker 2>very upset about that. I don't know if I mentioned

852
00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:58.920
<v Speaker 2>she did graduate George Washington College, and so she went

853
00:44:58.960 --> 00:44:59.719
<v Speaker 2>to Vassar.

854
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:02.000
<v Speaker 6>And then really that's a big spoke school, right.

855
00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Right, That's why I wanted to bring it.

856
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:05.920
<v Speaker 6>Up, George Washington University.

857
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:15.960
<v Speaker 2>And also, yeah, Society of Jesus in there. So she yeah,

858
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:18.920
<v Speaker 2>no big surprise with as much as she was dedicated, right,

859
00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:20.559
<v Speaker 2>she was super dedicated Catholic.

860
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:22.360
<v Speaker 1>But I think she had a lot of.

861
00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:24.320
<v Speaker 6>For sure.

862
00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:28.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you like I think, I don't know, right, Okay,

863
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:31.239
<v Speaker 2>And here's a good reason why it might be the

864
00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:32.400
<v Speaker 2>person on the left.

865
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:36.119
<v Speaker 1>Do you guys know who that is on this side,

866
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:37.519
<v Speaker 1>because I don't know.

867
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:41.719
<v Speaker 8>Son on one side, and he.

868
00:45:41.760 --> 00:45:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Looks a lot like this guy he looks does he

869
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:46.159
<v Speaker 1>look a lot like.

870
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:48.400
<v Speaker 6>You're still alive?

871
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:49.400
<v Speaker 2>No?

872
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:52.960
<v Speaker 1>No, this is you, guys.

873
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:54.599
<v Speaker 8>Oh wow.

874
00:45:55.960 --> 00:46:00.840
<v Speaker 2>And if you look at the ridge of the nose, huh,

875
00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:05.719
<v Speaker 2>the same the nose bridge right here, from the forehead

876
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:12.519
<v Speaker 2>down to the tip of the nose is identical, almost perfect.

877
00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:16.360
<v Speaker 2>She blew it off as he looks like her dad.

878
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:19.840
<v Speaker 2>I can repull up the dad picture he.

879
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:23.639
<v Speaker 6>Does this, it's black Irish.

880
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Look at this right here, right Think about how old JFK.

881
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:33.599
<v Speaker 2>Junior was when his dad died before you start having

882
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:37.599
<v Speaker 2>darker features. A lot of people that are Italian and

883
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Greek are born with lighter hair and lighter skin and

884
00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:44.599
<v Speaker 2>all that stuff, and then it turns darker. So he

885
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:47.000
<v Speaker 2>was very young. He was like like three, I think

886
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:50.079
<v Speaker 2>three or four. He was very tiny still, because I

887
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:54.840
<v Speaker 2>remember the little thing where he's doing the salute. I'm

888
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:57.679
<v Speaker 2>just I'm just saying, if you went on a boat

889
00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:03.559
<v Speaker 2>right after the death of your kid and anyways, you

890
00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:07.400
<v Speaker 2>made this guy and this continues for some time, you know,

891
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:11.639
<v Speaker 2>I just can'tnot get past this right here, where it

892
00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:14.960
<v Speaker 2>goes from the forehead down, from the forehead down, from

893
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:19.320
<v Speaker 2>the forehead up, like the hairline is very similar.

894
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:22.519
<v Speaker 1>The eyebrow place.

895
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:25.440
<v Speaker 6>I've never thought he looked like RFK Junior. I've never

896
00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:29.920
<v Speaker 6>thought it looked at all like he you just put

897
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:31.960
<v Speaker 6>you put a wig on RFK. You got the candy

898
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:35.400
<v Speaker 6>Women's me. This is resemblance with old Well.

899
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:40.000
<v Speaker 2>They're saying he looks like black Jack Bouvier her dad.

900
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Which I'm going to pull up another photo just to Yeah,

901
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:42.840
<v Speaker 1>they're going to.

902
00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:44.280
<v Speaker 6>Have to claim something like that because it don't make

903
00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:46.079
<v Speaker 6>sense otherwise it doesn't.

904
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:48.199
<v Speaker 1>But the face structures completely.

905
00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:50.119
<v Speaker 6>Folks want to claim.

906
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:54.480
<v Speaker 1>That nos is different everything, oh big time. I don't

907
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:55.280
<v Speaker 1>see it the same.

908
00:47:55.400 --> 00:47:57.599
<v Speaker 6>But he knows that's a black Irish fellow right there.

909
00:47:57.679 --> 00:47:59.840
<v Speaker 6>You know the Spanish Irish roots.

910
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:01.639
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, yep, exactly.

911
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:05.400
<v Speaker 2>And so if you were worried about this kid getting

912
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:10.880
<v Speaker 2>old enough to start resembling somebody, and he still got

913
00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:14.360
<v Speaker 2>the boyfriend in the White House, and all of a sudden,

914
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:18.119
<v Speaker 2>little sluty Pants shows up, Happy birthday, mister President. I

915
00:48:18.199 --> 00:48:20.199
<v Speaker 2>think that was the end of it. I think that

916
00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:24.840
<v Speaker 2>right there set her off so bad, like it was

917
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:26.559
<v Speaker 2>just enough is enough?

918
00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:29.800
<v Speaker 1>I really, I really do. I really think that that

919
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:31.760
<v Speaker 1>was just take him out.

920
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:34.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's enough of that, because she doesn't look

921
00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:40.599
<v Speaker 2>sad at his funeral, folks.

922
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I hate to say it, she just looks not. I

923
00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:42.239
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

924
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:45.320
<v Speaker 2>And then on NASA sweeps in and marries her right away,

925
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:51.199
<v Speaker 2>Like what is happening there? You know that I don't know,

926
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:54.679
<v Speaker 2>but look at the body language. Very shortly after they're

927
00:48:54.880 --> 00:49:01.280
<v Speaker 2>married and stuff, they hate each other, and I think

928
00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:05.239
<v Speaker 2>and and the pope was supposed to excommunicate her ass

929
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:07.760
<v Speaker 2>because she married him and he is a divorce a

930
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:11.239
<v Speaker 2>with a living wife. And when asked about it, if

931
00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:14.039
<v Speaker 2>she was going to get excommunicated, do you know what

932
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:19.000
<v Speaker 2>the pope told told everyone, like on the newspapers, that's ridiculous.

933
00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:25.679
<v Speaker 2>So he's not going to excommunicator, which I mean for

934
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:27.559
<v Speaker 2>the normal people out there, that would not fly.

935
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:33.119
<v Speaker 6>So the son get murked.

936
00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:37.639
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh yeah, exactly. No, No, now.

937
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:38.519
<v Speaker 6>His first son get marked.

938
00:49:39.320 --> 00:49:42.960
<v Speaker 1>His only it's not well unless we don't know about.

939
00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:45.519
<v Speaker 6>Telling me you bring up some interesting factors, they may

940
00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:47.760
<v Speaker 6>dispute that here. So when did his first time worked?

941
00:49:48.679 --> 00:49:51.800
<v Speaker 2>So I think it was a year after they got married.

942
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:55.519
<v Speaker 2>And that's when Christina started saying, look, it's the Kennedy curse.

943
00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:56.880
<v Speaker 1>She's gonna kill us all.

944
00:49:57.519 --> 00:50:02.199
<v Speaker 2>So and and and I'm just saying, like she had

945
00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:05.599
<v Speaker 2>five kids, all of them are dead but one. I'm

946
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:09.199
<v Speaker 2>just saying, and all the boys are dead for sure.

947
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:13.519
<v Speaker 2>And his son dies and the daughter is the only

948
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:16.440
<v Speaker 2>one that lives. And she literally calls Jackie the Black

949
00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:22.199
<v Speaker 2>Widow and actually convinces the dad to file for divorce

950
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:25.519
<v Speaker 2>because I think he pulled that stunt, the naked stunt,

951
00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:28.000
<v Speaker 2>trying to piss her off enough to be like few,

952
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:31.639
<v Speaker 2>and she didn't leave because she's all about them Benjamin's

953
00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:35.599
<v Speaker 2>and so you know, I think he finally was like, look, yeah,

954
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:38.280
<v Speaker 2>we're probably really all going to die, like I better

955
00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:41.760
<v Speaker 2>divorce her. So he starts, and then guess what happens.

956
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:47.039
<v Speaker 2>He dies while their divorce is not final, and he

957
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:51.280
<v Speaker 2>dies of some sudden respiratory failure and they're still married.

958
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:54.760
<v Speaker 2>That's why she went and fought the daughter. But here's

959
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:58.320
<v Speaker 2>the weird thing. Even though in Greece, if you're not Greek,

960
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:01.679
<v Speaker 2>you're not supposed to be able to inherit very much,

961
00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:05.159
<v Speaker 2>because she had to be like from Greece to inherit

962
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:09.239
<v Speaker 2>very much, and she signed a prenup and all this stuff.

963
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:11.880
<v Speaker 2>They still went in her favor for a pretty large

964
00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:15.280
<v Speaker 2>sum of money. But the daughter said on Nassas himself

965
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:18.119
<v Speaker 2>said on the divorce, because she's like, you're gonna lose

966
00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:20.679
<v Speaker 2>your ass probably, and he's like, it's worth whatever to

967
00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:25.599
<v Speaker 2>get rid of her. So this is not the Jackie

968
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:28.440
<v Speaker 2>that I always heard about. I was always like, oh,

969
00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:31.519
<v Speaker 2>she's so graceful and beautiful, like read some books guys,

970
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:35.039
<v Speaker 2>it gets bad. She wasn't nice, she wasn't in her sister.

971
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Remember she stole him from her sister. Then on top

972
00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:41.079
<v Speaker 2>of it, the sister and her fought like cats and dogs.

973
00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:43.960
<v Speaker 2>And then like she was never nice to her sister.

974
00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Her sister didn't. I don't even think she came to

975
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:49.840
<v Speaker 2>her wedding, to JFK and then she didn't go to

976
00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:52.079
<v Speaker 2>her wedding. It was like this pissing match all until

977
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:56.079
<v Speaker 2>they died. And then when she does die, she leaves

978
00:51:56.079 --> 00:51:59.480
<v Speaker 2>her sister nothing, not one thing, not like a bracelet

979
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:04.920
<v Speaker 2>or a childhood token or anything anything. She leaves hers zero.

980
00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:08.519
<v Speaker 2>And she says this because she got it all in life.

981
00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:14.320
<v Speaker 1>From her. So there's that.

982
00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:18.360
<v Speaker 5>Dad.

983
00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:24.360
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I'm telling you, like, I think where the where.

984
00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:26.679
<v Speaker 6>I look at these, these the situation and think about

985
00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:28.119
<v Speaker 6>the taimeline of events there, and.

986
00:52:32.280 --> 00:52:34.920
<v Speaker 2>This does not look like the dad. I'm gonna have

987
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:39.239
<v Speaker 2>to make a trouble k. I mean, even her dad,

988
00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:41.079
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't. He's too wide.

989
00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're gonna say, well, she was light.

990
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:46.480
<v Speaker 2>But I'm just telling you, guys, this guy looks like

991
00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:49.400
<v Speaker 2>look at this lip dimple, look at this well, he.

992
00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:51.320
<v Speaker 8>Looks very Mediterranean.

993
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:55.800
<v Speaker 6>That's what I've always thought too. He looks very mean, doesn't.

994
00:52:56.400 --> 00:52:59.159
<v Speaker 1>And he loves he loved to go to.

995
00:52:59.880 --> 00:53:02.719
<v Speaker 6>The candies are like, no, they're they're black Irish. But

996
00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:04.400
<v Speaker 6>you're like, this is not even black Irish.

997
00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:09.559
<v Speaker 2>It's it's very weird that like literally, this looks like

998
00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:13.119
<v Speaker 2>a little triangle. Look at this and look at this triangle.

999
00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:17.599
<v Speaker 2>The more I analyze it, like, there are very few

1000
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:20.760
<v Speaker 2>things from her. He got her upper lip, that he

1001
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:23.920
<v Speaker 2>got his bottom lip not quite as poudy, but he

1002
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:27.159
<v Speaker 2>got her eyes. They're kind of like kind I would

1003
00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:30.159
<v Speaker 2>say kind eyes. You know, he got a very kind eye.

1004
00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:34.159
<v Speaker 2>But the rest looks like this dude, and the ears

1005
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:34.800
<v Speaker 2>are hers.

1006
00:53:34.880 --> 00:53:36.000
<v Speaker 6>I'm sold.

1007
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I just think that.

1008
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:41.960
<v Speaker 2>She had a lot of answering coming and she didn't

1009
00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:43.320
<v Speaker 2>want to deal with it because she was going to

1010
00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:46.280
<v Speaker 2>lose her ass. And I bet you there was a

1011
00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:48.920
<v Speaker 2>clause in that prenup that was giving her a ton

1012
00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:52.079
<v Speaker 2>of money for all the times he cheated. I bet

1013
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:54.760
<v Speaker 2>in the prenups she couldn't cheat. I bet you money,

1014
00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:57.920
<v Speaker 2>because that's how it works with rich people. Shit the

1015
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:01.519
<v Speaker 2>girls can't do. It's not the same for he is

1016
00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:06.679
<v Speaker 2>for her, so and I just think that this was

1017
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I do think Caroline is his. I think there's a

1018
00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:19.199
<v Speaker 2>very remarkable resemblance for Caroline Kennedy to him, she is

1019
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:22.519
<v Speaker 2>and Patrick the other son that died.

1020
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:24.760
<v Speaker 6>Female characteristics I was talking about.

1021
00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:28.559
<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly, she does look like them. And Patrick the

1022
00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:31.480
<v Speaker 2>other son that she had, the last son, she would

1023
00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:34.440
<v Speaker 2>have our last child, she would have also died, and

1024
00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:38.719
<v Speaker 2>so she had been through so much at this point,

1025
00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:42.559
<v Speaker 2>the bitterness. I could see it, you know what, Like

1026
00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:45.440
<v Speaker 2>it's not right, and I could never kill a human being,

1027
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:48.119
<v Speaker 2>but like if you could, if that was in you

1028
00:54:48.199 --> 00:54:52.320
<v Speaker 2>and you were kind of sociopathic, I don't know. I mean,

1029
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.559
<v Speaker 2>if she hasn't got a conscience because they've been molesting her,

1030
00:54:55.559 --> 00:54:57.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean I can't prove that, but like that whole

1031
00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:00.480
<v Speaker 2>thing with her dad is weird, and and then all

1032
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:03.599
<v Speaker 2>this stuff like if they're mk ultra, you know, making

1033
00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:07.079
<v Speaker 2>her traumatized. I mean I could see it, I really

1034
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:10.760
<v Speaker 2>could that she wouldn't care. And then think about what

1035
00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:14.039
<v Speaker 2>she did afterward. You know, she walked around in that

1036
00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:17.039
<v Speaker 2>bloody suit all damn day and they tried to get

1037
00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:20.519
<v Speaker 2>her a change of clothes and she said no, let

1038
00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:23.039
<v Speaker 2>them see what they did to Jack, and I was like,

1039
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:29.079
<v Speaker 2>holy shit, like that is something. Yeah, you know, I

1040
00:55:29.079 --> 00:55:32.039
<v Speaker 2>mean that is wild. And this is right before things

1041
00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:33.760
<v Speaker 2>went really bad. But you can see their body language.

1042
00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:36.199
<v Speaker 2>They hate each other. They hate each other like it

1043
00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:40.239
<v Speaker 2>wasn't good. So then she becomes this editor and this

1044
00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:42.960
<v Speaker 2>is we already have may hw and here for the Mormons.

1045
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:45.639
<v Speaker 2>But this is a weird connection that I have to find.

1046
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:48.039
<v Speaker 2>I found this this morning. I have to deep dive

1047
00:55:48.119 --> 00:55:53.360
<v Speaker 2>this guy. Jacqueline Kennedy becomes this editor, okay, and she

1048
00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:57.480
<v Speaker 2>is the editor for this book called to the Inland Island.

1049
00:55:57.559 --> 00:55:59.880
<v Speaker 2>And wait till I show you this guy. This guy

1050
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:03.440
<v Speaker 2>looks like her type, y'all. Oh not when he's old.

1051
00:56:03.480 --> 00:56:05.280
<v Speaker 2>But then he's still around, isn't he?

1052
00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Though? Let's see, how is it not in here? I

1053
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:13.320
<v Speaker 1>thought I'd put it in here? But he's tall, dark, handsome,

1054
00:56:13.639 --> 00:56:19.119
<v Speaker 1>all the things. He's Latin and very much her style,

1055
00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:22.960
<v Speaker 1>very much her style. And he's a Mormon. And she

1056
00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:26.159
<v Speaker 1>ends up doing his book.

1057
00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:29.239
<v Speaker 2>This is a brief note on Stewart, you'd all, and

1058
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:32.000
<v Speaker 2>it talks about this you know thing that he did

1059
00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:34.960
<v Speaker 2>this documentary. He's all about save the earth. But he

1060
00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:38.519
<v Speaker 2>also was what the Secretary of Interior from nineteen sixty

1061
00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:41.719
<v Speaker 2>one to sixty nine under President Kennedy and Johnson. So

1062
00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:47.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this is another boyfriend, like, but they end

1063
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:51.679
<v Speaker 2>up being friends. I cannot figure out why.

1064
00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:53.000
<v Speaker 1>She's there with him at this point.

1065
00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:57.440
<v Speaker 2>They're way older. This is way later, but this is

1066
00:56:57.519 --> 00:57:00.119
<v Speaker 2>them hanging out and celebrating New Year's to get there.

1067
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:03.599
<v Speaker 2>I film this photo and I was like, huh, by

1068
00:57:03.639 --> 00:57:05.039
<v Speaker 2>the way, Mormon's aren't supposed.

1069
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:08.119
<v Speaker 1>Drink, but whatever. I guess he's just poorn it for

1070
00:57:08.199 --> 00:57:11.000
<v Speaker 1>her maybe right, I don't know.

1071
00:57:11.360 --> 00:57:13.599
<v Speaker 6>He's just been a kind gentleman of that very very

1072
00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:16.719
<v Speaker 6>attractive elderly lady there with the weird wonkey fish.

1073
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:19.639
<v Speaker 2>Eyes, right, the fish eyes. The fish eyes are the

1074
00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:21.840
<v Speaker 2>bad part, but the rest the rest is okay.

1075
00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:22.719
<v Speaker 8>Dang it.

1076
00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:24.559
<v Speaker 2>I wish I would have had that photo of him,

1077
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:26.239
<v Speaker 2>but he he was.

1078
00:57:26.440 --> 00:57:28.199
<v Speaker 6>Very ignore the alcohol syndrome.

1079
00:57:32.960 --> 00:57:38.000
<v Speaker 2>So I think, in my opinion number one, just opinion,

1080
00:57:38.679 --> 00:57:41.519
<v Speaker 2>I kind of feel like she was a spy. It's

1081
00:57:41.599 --> 00:57:46.079
<v Speaker 2>not okay. I kind of feel like she has fetal

1082
00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:51.119
<v Speaker 2>alcohol syndrome. I kind of feel like she probably, you know,

1083
00:57:51.639 --> 00:57:54.280
<v Speaker 2>is the black widow that they speak of. To be honest,

1084
00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:57.400
<v Speaker 2>because all these people dropped it all around her all

1085
00:57:57.440 --> 00:57:59.719
<v Speaker 2>the time. I bet Christina was scared for her life

1086
00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:03.440
<v Speaker 2>for a like. And and also if they knew and

1087
00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:06.679
<v Speaker 2>planned it together, what's the best thing you can do

1088
00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:09.199
<v Speaker 2>is get married, because then you can't testify against each

1089
00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:11.320
<v Speaker 2>other in a court of law in the United States.

1090
00:58:11.519 --> 00:58:12.559
<v Speaker 1>So it makes total sense.

1091
00:58:14.440 --> 00:58:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Like I mean, they ran away and did this very quickly,

1092
00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:21.239
<v Speaker 2>and it was very private, and it wasn't Jackie style

1093
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:26.079
<v Speaker 2>at all, not at all. So I think that there's

1094
00:58:26.239 --> 00:58:30.199
<v Speaker 2>a screaming case for that. And you know, I think

1095
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:34.239
<v Speaker 2>that she was very if she wasn't a spy, she

1096
00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:38.880
<v Speaker 2>was dialed into the max like George de Morenshields teaching

1097
00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:40.760
<v Speaker 2>you how to ride a horsey when you're five, Like

1098
00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:42.360
<v Speaker 2>come on now, get out of here.

1099
00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:47.440
<v Speaker 6>And poor Oswald I had no idea. She mest how

1100
00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:50.320
<v Speaker 6>she met Kennedy was to be a photographer.

1101
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know. I didn't know.

1102
00:58:53.719 --> 00:58:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I read the book about her memoirs and this

1103
00:58:56.480 --> 00:58:58.320
<v Speaker 2>book Nemesis, I'm halfway through.

1104
00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:00.920
<v Speaker 1>This is one of them. So that people can see,

1105
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:02.519
<v Speaker 1>we'll give the authors their due.

1106
00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:09.400
<v Speaker 2>And also the private uh I wrote it down, Private

1107
00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Memoirs of Jackie Kennedy, that's the other one. She wanted

1108
00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:15.440
<v Speaker 2>to keep those private. She gave them to her daughter,

1109
00:59:15.880 --> 00:59:18.039
<v Speaker 2>but her daughter was kind of forced. Do you know

1110
00:59:18.119 --> 00:59:19.559
<v Speaker 2>this story, Lisa, You seem like you do.

1111
00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:20.639
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I've heard.

1112
00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:23.280
<v Speaker 5>I've heard how she was not supposed to publish any

1113
00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:25.199
<v Speaker 5>of it and if she was going to publish it,

1114
00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:28.599
<v Speaker 5>to wait until she died was the whole gig of

1115
00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:28.920
<v Speaker 5>it all.

1116
00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:31.039
<v Speaker 8>But she did not want any of it published.

1117
00:59:31.039 --> 00:59:34.360
<v Speaker 5>And when you said, how like she was a photographer,

1118
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:38.639
<v Speaker 5>publicist or whatever, and then having a relationship with JFK

1119
00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:43.159
<v Speaker 5>is so similar to Carolyn Bassett, how she hers was

1120
00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:46.760
<v Speaker 5>also a photographer and a publicist of sorts, and how

1121
00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:49.480
<v Speaker 5>she pretty much he was dating Daryl Hannah at the

1122
00:59:49.519 --> 00:59:52.639
<v Speaker 5>time and then just leaves her out of nowhere. Was

1123
00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:54.960
<v Speaker 5>apparently I thought they were living together and in love

1124
00:59:55.119 --> 00:59:56.880
<v Speaker 5>and then just like drops her out of nowhere and

1125
00:59:56.960 --> 00:59:59.760
<v Speaker 5>gets into this relationship Carolyn Bassett and then immediately just

1126
01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:00.679
<v Speaker 5>marries her.

1127
01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:06.159
<v Speaker 2>That's and you know both JFK Junior and Onasas's son

1128
01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:10.199
<v Speaker 2>die in plane crashes, both, yes, both of them. Yes, yes,

1129
01:00:10.320 --> 01:00:13.440
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like I almost feel like I can't. I

1130
01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:16.960
<v Speaker 2>got to look up who died first, whether it was JFK. Junior,

1131
01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:19.239
<v Speaker 2>I think it was him first, and then On's son.

1132
01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:24.679
<v Speaker 2>I almost wonder if Onnasas did something nasty because she's like,

1133
01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:28.000
<v Speaker 2>if you take my son out of the will or whatever,

1134
01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:29.079
<v Speaker 2>and then she's like.

1135
01:00:29.159 --> 01:00:31.280
<v Speaker 1>If your son, guess what happens now?

1136
01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:33.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, because I could we're doing it because she

1137
01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:36.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of seems ruthless, like if we're reading between the lines,

1138
01:00:36.679 --> 01:00:39.320
<v Speaker 2>like I feel bad saying that because I know she's

1139
01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:44.440
<v Speaker 2>America's sweetheart queen whatever. But man, that's a lot of evidence,

1140
01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:48.519
<v Speaker 2>you know. And I didn't finish the book yet. We

1141
01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:50.920
<v Speaker 2>were like, Okay, it's getting big.

1142
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:51.199
<v Speaker 3>Now.

1143
01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:53.639
<v Speaker 2>If I did on Nassas and Jackie together, it's going

1144
01:00:53.719 --> 01:00:54.920
<v Speaker 2>to be like a three hour show.

1145
01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:56.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's just crazy.

1146
01:00:56.039 --> 01:00:59.159
<v Speaker 8>So you're right, she was not supposed to publish that

1147
01:00:59.239 --> 01:01:00.639
<v Speaker 8>stuff at all.

1148
01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:08.800
<v Speaker 2>And she was, well, she was supposedly forced because oh

1149
01:01:09.599 --> 01:01:13.519
<v Speaker 2>maybe so uh. She was supposedly forced because of the

1150
01:01:13.599 --> 01:01:15.760
<v Speaker 2>fact that they said they were going to make a

1151
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:19.079
<v Speaker 2>TV movie about this, and somebody had leaked it. And

1152
01:01:19.159 --> 01:01:21.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming it was her sister because her sister is

1153
01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:25.760
<v Speaker 2>salty and they were fighting all the time, and so

1154
01:01:26.079 --> 01:01:29.079
<v Speaker 2>also there's like pieces of this where it goes into

1155
01:01:29.199 --> 01:01:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Onassas arranging the marriage for Grace Kelly.

1156
01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Did you guys know about this and that guy, the Prince?

1157
01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:36.239
<v Speaker 6>Really so?

1158
01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:37.119
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

1159
01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:40.719
<v Speaker 2>And it's well documented that Onassas's hand was one hundred

1160
01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:43.639
<v Speaker 2>percent involved with that and basically picked her and Marilyn

1161
01:01:43.760 --> 01:01:46.639
<v Speaker 2>was supposed to be it, but they didn't get along,

1162
01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:48.920
<v Speaker 2>and it was like she goes, well, give me this

1163
01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:51.239
<v Speaker 2>is hilarious. Give me two days alone with him and

1164
01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:56.760
<v Speaker 2>he'll change his mind. Marilyn, this bitch, I'm like, oh

1165
01:01:56.840 --> 01:01:59.000
<v Speaker 2>my gosh. Not only does she show up at people's

1166
01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:01.360
<v Speaker 2>birthday parties naked, but she does some stuff like that.

1167
01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:04.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you gotta whoa, you got some lady balls

1168
01:02:04.280 --> 01:02:04.480
<v Speaker 2>on you?

1169
01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Like it's wild. She I could.

1170
01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:11.079
<v Speaker 6>Be wrong, but I could be wrong. But in much

1171
01:02:11.079 --> 01:02:13.079
<v Speaker 6>in regard to some of the interjected, much in regards

1172
01:02:13.079 --> 01:02:18.920
<v Speaker 6>to Missus Jacqueline Buvia Kennedy A Nassis, I don't find

1173
01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:20.840
<v Speaker 6>Marilyn Monroe to be like what is there? Was there

1174
01:02:20.840 --> 01:02:23.400
<v Speaker 6>a different metric of beautiful women back then, Like you know,

1175
01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:28.440
<v Speaker 6>she's got some feel alcohol syndrome face going on herself, yes, yep.

1176
01:02:28.920 --> 01:02:32.039
<v Speaker 2>And also this girl that he dated at the White House.

1177
01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:34.159
<v Speaker 2>This is actually kind of sad because this girl was

1178
01:02:34.199 --> 01:02:36.920
<v Speaker 2>stupid and young. She was like nineteen and she was

1179
01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:41.159
<v Speaker 2>one of the assistants to Jackie. He took her virginity

1180
01:02:41.239 --> 01:02:45.159
<v Speaker 2>on their marital bed, and she said in the notes

1181
01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:47.880
<v Speaker 2>in their memoir, I think that that one hurt her almost.

1182
01:02:47.960 --> 01:02:52.800
<v Speaker 2>She wrote this down, yes, and that she was like

1183
01:02:53.320 --> 01:02:57.159
<v Speaker 2>she was gonna marry me, and she's like, he, more on,

1184
01:02:57.360 --> 01:02:59.159
<v Speaker 2>he's married, get the hell out of my house, like

1185
01:02:59.480 --> 01:03:02.360
<v Speaker 2>and then she did tell Marilyn Monroe at one point, yeah,

1186
01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:04.280
<v Speaker 2>come here and I'll move out, like you deal with

1187
01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:06.280
<v Speaker 2>all this. I don't I even want to do it anymore,

1188
01:03:06.320 --> 01:03:09.239
<v Speaker 2>like you do it, Like she was super hurt. After

1189
01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:11.840
<v Speaker 2>he kept like saying stuff like, oh, I don't even

1190
01:03:11.920 --> 01:03:15.000
<v Speaker 2>care about the baby's dying, and stuff like I can't.

1191
01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:17.559
<v Speaker 2>That's unforgivable, like honestly.

1192
01:03:17.239 --> 01:03:19.199
<v Speaker 6>Like I, oh, I don't know.

1193
01:03:19.400 --> 01:03:21.840
<v Speaker 2>The cheating's one thing, but that's a whole other level.

1194
01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Like that's pretty bad. Like what can I do about it?

1195
01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:27.239
<v Speaker 1>The baby? The kid is dead, That's what he said.

1196
01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:30.119
<v Speaker 2>And you know who talked him into going back was

1197
01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:32.679
<v Speaker 2>his RFK. He kind of seems like the good guy

1198
01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:35.840
<v Speaker 2>in this all the time, you know, And he's definitely

1199
01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:37.880
<v Speaker 2>banging his wife. He had like thirteen kids or something

1200
01:03:38.039 --> 01:03:40.480
<v Speaker 2>something like that. I don't know, but not saying he

1201
01:03:40.519 --> 01:03:46.079
<v Speaker 2>was one hundred percent faithful clearly, But I don't know. Marilyn,

1202
01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:49.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, back to the Maryland train and and honestly

1203
01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:52.559
<v Speaker 2>she said she favored him better than JFK from what

1204
01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:53.039
<v Speaker 2>I read.

1205
01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:57.400
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, I mean, depends on who's just

1206
01:03:57.519 --> 01:03:57.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of.

1207
01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:00.400
<v Speaker 6>Weird sexual action. But most all these characters, there's a

1208
01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:01.639
<v Speaker 6>lot of weird, very weird.

1209
01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:07.679
<v Speaker 2>Actually it gets it gets very interwoven when you start

1210
01:04:07.719 --> 01:04:11.599
<v Speaker 2>seeing the same thing happened with Oswald. He's like, all

1211
01:04:11.639 --> 01:04:14.480
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden surrounded by like Marina, whose dad's like

1212
01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:19.159
<v Speaker 2>that big lieutenant in the you know, in the Russian KGB.

1213
01:04:19.480 --> 01:04:22.440
<v Speaker 2>And then we've got like Demor and Shield and his

1214
01:04:22.519 --> 01:04:25.559
<v Speaker 2>connections surrounding and he's just this poor guy that doesn't

1215
01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:26.159
<v Speaker 2>have any money.

1216
01:04:26.159 --> 01:04:29.119
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't belong with them, you know. But yet this

1217
01:04:29.159 --> 01:04:33.199
<v Speaker 1>looks like this from birth with him.

1218
01:04:33.239 --> 01:04:36.599
<v Speaker 6>How about David Ferry, right, he's keen you got a

1219
01:04:36.639 --> 01:04:40.320
<v Speaker 6>kid deddling David Ferry in his life as a youngster exactly.

1220
01:04:40.360 --> 01:04:43.360
<v Speaker 2>And they say that he because he was in an orphanage,

1221
01:04:43.920 --> 01:04:47.239
<v Speaker 2>they postially that this stuff might have happened to him,

1222
01:04:47.280 --> 01:04:49.440
<v Speaker 2>and that they mk ultered his brain when he was

1223
01:04:49.559 --> 01:04:52.719
<v Speaker 2>really little because he was an orphanage for a period

1224
01:04:52.760 --> 01:04:53.079
<v Speaker 2>of time.

1225
01:04:53.920 --> 01:04:55.559
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know.

1226
01:04:56.559 --> 01:05:01.760
<v Speaker 6>I don't know about because his parents were weird with

1227
01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:06.960
<v Speaker 6>his grandfather. His grandfather Oswald was Colonel Oswald in the

1228
01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:10.760
<v Speaker 6>Confederate Confederate Times, and that man's father was a major

1229
01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:12.960
<v Speaker 6>out of the Georgia chapter of the Wars of seventeen

1230
01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:13.639
<v Speaker 6>seventy six.

1231
01:05:13.719 --> 01:05:15.519
<v Speaker 1>So society is.

1232
01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:20.559
<v Speaker 6>Yes, ma'am. In my opinion, Lee Harvey Oswald was an

1233
01:05:20.599 --> 01:05:24.079
<v Speaker 6>hereditary member, wasn't Oswald?

1234
01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Nick?

1235
01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:27.280
<v Speaker 9>Didn't we do a little quick deep dive on them Oswald?

1236
01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:31.480
<v Speaker 9>We just haven't talked about it. But Oswald's mom married

1237
01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:34.519
<v Speaker 9>a man that had like a million dollar home in

1238
01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:41.280
<v Speaker 9>Louisiana and of homes like that back then. And didn't

1239
01:05:41.320 --> 01:05:42.320
<v Speaker 9>he get into.

1240
01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:47.360
<v Speaker 5>The the military academy And don't you need actual like

1241
01:05:47.559 --> 01:05:51.079
<v Speaker 5>contacts within senates to even get into those academies?

1242
01:05:52.199 --> 01:05:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Wow, I know he was buddies with uh the one

1243
01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:57.719
<v Speaker 2>guy in the he was only seventeen.

1244
01:05:57.920 --> 01:06:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Was that fairy? Was that fairy that I remember remembering

1245
01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:02.800
<v Speaker 1>in the air something patrol.

1246
01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:05.679
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, David Ferry was his like boy Scout leader, but

1247
01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:07.840
<v Speaker 6>for the air, the air the civil Air Patrol. But

1248
01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:11.320
<v Speaker 6>you know it's like the boys patrol planes. And apparently

1249
01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:13.000
<v Speaker 6>he had to admit.

1250
01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:19.679
<v Speaker 4>They I mentioned that on the show before me and

1251
01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:22.719
<v Speaker 4>a bunch of kids I knew from fucking school actually

1252
01:06:23.199 --> 01:06:25.559
<v Speaker 4>tried that out for a bit. That ship was off

1253
01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:26.440
<v Speaker 4>the fucking hulk.

1254
01:06:28.039 --> 01:06:32.440
<v Speaker 2>He was. They say he was one of his conquests sexually,

1255
01:06:32.719 --> 01:06:37.400
<v Speaker 2>because you know, David Ferry was like predatory ish.

1256
01:06:37.559 --> 01:06:40.000
<v Speaker 1>They say, what I.

1257
01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:41.800
<v Speaker 6>Don't, Well, yeah, David Ferry was supposed to be like

1258
01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:44.079
<v Speaker 6>the troop leader, right, but Jim Garrison was like the

1259
01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:47.679
<v Speaker 6>commander of all, like the all like numerous troops, right,

1260
01:06:47.719 --> 01:06:50.440
<v Speaker 6>of these cadets, so he knew them all, you know

1261
01:06:50.440 --> 01:06:52.280
<v Speaker 6>what I mean, Like he you know, this is a

1262
01:06:52.320 --> 01:06:54.760
<v Speaker 6>weird sup of stuff going on in New Orleans.

1263
01:06:54.719 --> 01:06:56.840
<v Speaker 1>And this Levy name that her mom was.

1264
01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:00.159
<v Speaker 2>They postulate it can go back to the rothschild, but

1265
01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't going to say it until I until I

1266
01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:04.239
<v Speaker 2>looked a little deeper.

1267
01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:05.119
<v Speaker 1>But we'll just.

1268
01:07:05.079 --> 01:07:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Say possible, right, Yes, you guys are on point tonight today.

1269
01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's hysterical. That's great.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. Oh glad people understood what I was saying.

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01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:22.400
<v Speaker 3>I felt bad, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it actually came out in these recent papers that

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01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:30.119
<v Speaker 2>they had to admit that they knew him and knew

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01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:33.039
<v Speaker 2>him from a very young age. There were pictures, so

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01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:36.559
<v Speaker 2>there's troop photos with them all together, and he was like, yeah,

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01:07:36.599 --> 01:07:40.880
<v Speaker 2>I knew him. Yeah whatever. But that was back clear

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01:07:40.920 --> 01:07:43.719
<v Speaker 2>back when they just never released it. And I'm like, okay,

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01:07:43.760 --> 01:07:46.960
<v Speaker 2>so we've got this French connection through New Orleans. We've

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01:07:46.960 --> 01:07:50.079
<v Speaker 2>got these connections through the rich people and equestrian stuff

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01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:54.039
<v Speaker 2>and possible a rothschild with this mom. Now I can't

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01:07:54.039 --> 01:07:56.599
<v Speaker 2>say that for sure until I deep dive that more.

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01:07:56.639 --> 01:08:01.199
<v Speaker 2>But Blackjack himself, he's this, you know, fancied chants guy.

1284
01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:05.360
<v Speaker 2>But like, honestly, at that point in time, he should

1285
01:08:05.400 --> 01:08:08.159
<v Speaker 2>have had a harder time making society than he did

1286
01:08:08.239 --> 01:08:11.480
<v Speaker 2>being very dark. They called him black Jack because he

1287
01:08:11.599 --> 01:08:17.239
<v Speaker 2>was dark, I mean period. So I mean I find

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01:08:17.239 --> 01:08:19.680
<v Speaker 2>it weird that they still put her in. She must

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01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:22.960
<v Speaker 2>have some sort of background if that's all he's got,

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01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:26.079
<v Speaker 2>and money that ain't enough to be a president's wife.

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01:08:26.119 --> 01:08:28.439
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, she's got to have something.

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01:08:28.199 --> 01:08:31.760
<v Speaker 5>Better, wasn't I mean, like you say, Society or Cincinnatus,

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01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:35.680
<v Speaker 5>that there was some sort of underlying French connection.

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01:08:36.840 --> 01:08:37.760
<v Speaker 8>To all of this.

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01:08:38.159 --> 01:08:40.600
<v Speaker 5>I think no one really points the finger at that,

1296
01:08:41.079 --> 01:08:43.880
<v Speaker 5>and how they leave that out. They always say, Oh,

1297
01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:45.600
<v Speaker 5>it's a Jews, or oh it's a Germans, or oh

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01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:50.399
<v Speaker 5>it's this. Nobody ever says French are involved and France

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01:08:50.680 --> 01:08:54.119
<v Speaker 5>has I think, wasn't. I think that's told to me.

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01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:57.239
<v Speaker 5>If you want to learn the language of labor, then

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01:08:57.479 --> 01:08:59.960
<v Speaker 5>learn Spanish. If you want to learn the language of politics,

1302
01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:00.920
<v Speaker 5>learn French.

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01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:03.319
<v Speaker 1>And she knew both very well.

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01:09:03.760 --> 01:09:06.319
<v Speaker 2>Now, I did read this weird thing, and I'll tell

1305
01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:09.520
<v Speaker 2>you guys it, but this is very conspiratorial and I

1306
01:09:09.600 --> 01:09:12.119
<v Speaker 2>have no proof. But they say that the night before

1307
01:09:12.319 --> 01:09:15.319
<v Speaker 2>Jack died, that she gave her first time ever a

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01:09:15.399 --> 01:09:18.840
<v Speaker 2>speech in Spanish, and if you listen to it backwards,

1309
01:09:18.920 --> 01:09:22.239
<v Speaker 2>it was crazy like I love the Devil and Illuminati

1310
01:09:22.319 --> 01:09:24.279
<v Speaker 2>and blah blah blah and this is goodbye.

1311
01:09:24.479 --> 01:09:26.439
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, WHOA.

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01:09:26.520 --> 01:09:28.560
<v Speaker 2>I didn't put it in here because it seemed nuts

1313
01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:30.640
<v Speaker 2>but fun fun to chat about.

1314
01:09:31.680 --> 01:09:32.760
<v Speaker 1>I just can't vet it.

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01:09:33.039 --> 01:09:34.800
<v Speaker 6>I'd like to check that out. I've never even heard

1316
01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:35.439
<v Speaker 6>of this speech.

1317
01:09:36.359 --> 01:09:37.039
<v Speaker 1>It was weird.

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01:09:37.279 --> 01:09:39.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they said, only if you play it backwards, and

1319
01:09:39.359 --> 01:09:41.479
<v Speaker 2>it was like all this stuff about it, and somebody

1320
01:09:41.479 --> 01:09:44.119
<v Speaker 2>got really into it. Now I don't know. I mean, yeah,

1321
01:09:44.119 --> 01:09:46.960
<v Speaker 2>that's the timeframe of stuff like that. But then she's

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01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:49.479
<v Speaker 2>like a one brilliant if she can say it backwards

1323
01:09:49.520 --> 01:09:51.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean gesh in another language.

1324
01:09:51.439 --> 01:09:53.159
<v Speaker 1>But they said she had a hard time with it.

1325
01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:56.600
<v Speaker 2>She kept stepping over her words, but she was very

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01:09:56.640 --> 01:09:59.560
<v Speaker 2>fluent and so it didn't make sense, and that it

1327
01:09:59.640 --> 01:10:02.920
<v Speaker 2>also didn't jive together. Well so maybe so, but it

1328
01:10:03.039 --> 01:10:05.079
<v Speaker 2>was just a big conspiracy thing. I couldn't bet it.

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01:10:05.159 --> 01:10:07.680
<v Speaker 2>So that's why it's not in the photos. Because fun

1330
01:10:07.680 --> 01:10:11.880
<v Speaker 2>to talk about, however, right, you know idea? Yeah, I

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01:10:11.880 --> 01:10:12.319
<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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01:10:12.319 --> 01:10:14.560
<v Speaker 4>I just want to twist us in fun fact, if

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01:10:14.840 --> 01:10:17.600
<v Speaker 4>any twin Peak fans whenever they show people in the

1334
01:10:17.800 --> 01:10:20.600
<v Speaker 4>uh the like lodge or that red room and it

1335
01:10:20.640 --> 01:10:23.760
<v Speaker 4>sounds like they're talking backwards almost, he actually made those

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01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:27.560
<v Speaker 4>people read those lines backwards and then he played it

1337
01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:30.760
<v Speaker 4>backwards the audio to make it sound like it was

1338
01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:33.560
<v Speaker 4>backwards but speaking forwards. So those people actually had to

1339
01:10:33.560 --> 01:10:35.479
<v Speaker 4>do those lines like actually talking backwards.

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01:10:36.079 --> 01:10:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, Well, I mean I know, it was a

1341
01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:39.520
<v Speaker 1>big deal back then.

1342
01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:41.439
<v Speaker 2>They used to always say, like if you played Beatles

1343
01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:44.680
<v Speaker 2>songs or whatever backwards, you know, was this big thing.

1344
01:10:44.840 --> 01:10:48.720
<v Speaker 2>So maybe, I mean, if she's that dialed in and

1345
01:10:49.319 --> 01:10:53.279
<v Speaker 2>she is obviously gifted from like possibly mk Ultra, like

1346
01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:56.399
<v Speaker 2>maybe that, you know. But I do find it very

1347
01:10:56.439 --> 01:11:01.199
<v Speaker 2>strange that he ends up appointed to the Incess Committee.

1348
01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:05.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean that anytime you see some weird stuff like

1349
01:11:05.279 --> 01:11:07.079
<v Speaker 2>that and people are going to say, oh, he's just

1350
01:11:07.079 --> 01:11:08.680
<v Speaker 2>a good guy and want to be over it. Okay,

1351
01:11:08.720 --> 01:11:11.359
<v Speaker 2>he had enough clubs under his belt and he was busy,

1352
01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:13.199
<v Speaker 2>like it just seems.

1353
01:11:12.840 --> 01:11:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Strange to me. But I can't prove any of that.

1354
01:11:16.199 --> 01:11:19.840
<v Speaker 6>But this INCESC Committee, Uh, let.

1355
01:11:19.720 --> 01:11:21.439
<v Speaker 1>Me find it. It just seemed strange.

1356
01:11:21.439 --> 01:11:23.880
<v Speaker 6>I'm familiar with it. But I'm interested in the early

1357
01:11:23.920 --> 01:11:27.439
<v Speaker 6>on set of the FBI because it involves the Bonaparte family,

1358
01:11:27.479 --> 01:11:30.199
<v Speaker 6>a different French chapter society, Cincinnati family.

1359
01:11:31.600 --> 01:11:35.079
<v Speaker 3>Yes, talked about them last night somehow.

1360
01:11:36.680 --> 01:11:37.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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01:11:37.720 --> 01:11:41.880
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Napoleon because he likes to do Egyptian ancient His

1362
01:11:41.960 --> 01:11:43.640
<v Speaker 6>interest was not the mounds or was ancient Egypt.

1363
01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:48.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the bees. The bees for him is gigantic.

1364
01:11:48.359 --> 01:11:50.039
<v Speaker 2>I want to get this guy on to do a

1365
01:11:50.079 --> 01:11:53.119
<v Speaker 2>show about these bees because the bees they sewed him

1366
01:11:53.199 --> 01:11:57.640
<v Speaker 2>on to their Bonaparte he actually sewed them onto his

1367
01:11:57.920 --> 01:12:02.199
<v Speaker 2>inauguration cloak because they were all about the bees.

1368
01:12:02.319 --> 01:12:03.880
<v Speaker 1>And then you think about.

1369
01:12:03.680 --> 01:12:07.039
<v Speaker 2>The Mormons, and you think about the Martinists, and yeah,

1370
01:12:07.119 --> 01:12:10.039
<v Speaker 2>and the Masons and the Beehive States, and.

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01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:13.720
<v Speaker 6>As we Joseph Smith was the society, Well, Joseph Smith

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01:12:13.720 --> 01:12:16.279
<v Speaker 6>would have been the same group membership as Napoleon the

1373
01:12:16.279 --> 01:12:17.319
<v Speaker 6>society since me.

1374
01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:20.680
<v Speaker 2>And claims and it was, and claims that he's what

1375
01:12:20.960 --> 01:12:23.680
<v Speaker 2>a Merivingian. Well, that was the sign of the Merivingians

1376
01:12:23.800 --> 01:12:29.840
<v Speaker 2>was the bee. So I'm just like, okay, weird, that's weird. Yeah,

1377
01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:32.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean I can't prove anything here nor there about

1378
01:12:32.600 --> 01:12:34.439
<v Speaker 2>it other than the cloak had be sowned on it

1379
01:12:34.479 --> 01:12:37.079
<v Speaker 2>because there's pictures and they talked about it. So I

1380
01:12:37.119 --> 01:12:40.439
<v Speaker 2>mean that that part you can prove, but the rest no,

1381
01:12:41.079 --> 01:12:43.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, we know that they're hiding me

1382
01:12:43.800 --> 01:12:46.119
<v Speaker 2>and you have talked about this JJ family members that

1383
01:12:46.359 --> 01:12:50.680
<v Speaker 2>are royals out of nowhere inside Mormons, and that doesn't

1384
01:12:50.720 --> 01:12:53.680
<v Speaker 2>make any sense to me. Like my great great grandpa

1385
01:12:54.680 --> 01:12:59.279
<v Speaker 2>was in South Africa and he's in the line like

1386
01:12:59.640 --> 01:13:03.079
<v Speaker 2>the key of England right now is my tenth great grandpa,

1387
01:13:03.199 --> 01:13:04.720
<v Speaker 2>not ten times removed, none of that.

1388
01:13:04.840 --> 01:13:07.439
<v Speaker 1>He is straight up up the line.

1389
01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:10.319
<v Speaker 2>So why was this uncle of mine all hell bent

1390
01:13:10.439 --> 01:13:12.600
<v Speaker 2>to come to Utah and be a poor farmer?

1391
01:13:14.439 --> 01:13:15.079
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make it.

1392
01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:18.920
<v Speaker 6>I think another argument that you made that you're that

1393
01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:22.000
<v Speaker 6>one forefather of yours is allegedly the son of King

1394
01:13:22.279 --> 01:13:22.960
<v Speaker 6>King George.

1395
01:13:23.880 --> 01:13:30.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's this is yeah, the illegitimate son legitimate talbot yep.

1396
01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:35.359
<v Speaker 2>And so I mean it's strange, interesting character. Yeah, yeah,

1397
01:13:35.439 --> 01:13:37.920
<v Speaker 2>it's weird. It's really weird when you I mean, he

1398
01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:41.279
<v Speaker 2>founded a whole city in South Africa. He was doing

1399
01:13:41.319 --> 01:13:43.560
<v Speaker 2>well for himself, like he why would he leave that

1400
01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:45.520
<v Speaker 2>to just come here and be a dirt poor farmer

1401
01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:49.600
<v Speaker 2>like my family never had any money, like, and they

1402
01:13:49.680 --> 01:13:51.760
<v Speaker 2>begged him to come back because he ended up being

1403
01:13:51.760 --> 01:13:54.560
<v Speaker 2>one of the only male. This is all from FamilySearch

1404
01:13:54.600 --> 01:13:56.920
<v Speaker 2>dot Org. I don't know this much about my family.

1405
01:13:56.960 --> 01:13:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I just had to go in there and people put

1406
01:13:58.920 --> 01:14:02.239
<v Speaker 2>like documents and stuff in there. But they'd asked for

1407
01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:04.319
<v Speaker 2>him to come back over and over and he was like, no,

1408
01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:07.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm not coming. I think he was afraid to be killed,

1409
01:14:08.119 --> 01:14:11.079
<v Speaker 2>to be honest, but I don't know.

1410
01:14:12.199 --> 01:14:14.279
<v Speaker 6>Well, I think what you're describing with those circumstances is

1411
01:14:14.319 --> 01:14:16.760
<v Speaker 6>not all that different from the Bvia circumstances, with this

1412
01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:20.560
<v Speaker 6>weird soup of these bloodlines and this kind of spooky activity,

1413
01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:24.039
<v Speaker 6>if you will, and speaking to the French connection on

1414
01:14:24.079 --> 01:14:26.319
<v Speaker 6>the French side and how deep they are in America

1415
01:14:26.359 --> 01:14:29.159
<v Speaker 6>from the onset well, and this rift of these different

1416
01:14:29.279 --> 01:14:32.880
<v Speaker 6>this factional war between the Society of Cincinnati. Well, the king,

1417
01:14:32.960 --> 01:14:36.159
<v Speaker 6>the future king of France following the revolution, King Louis

1418
01:14:36.319 --> 01:14:40.960
<v Speaker 6>Phillippe number two, he was hiding out in Claremont County, Ohio,

1419
01:14:41.239 --> 01:14:44.760
<v Speaker 6>undern assumed identity as a school teacher during the revolution,

1420
01:14:45.560 --> 01:14:47.239
<v Speaker 6>and he was he was a member of the society.

1421
01:14:47.279 --> 01:14:49.319
<v Speaker 6>He fought in the war, but then you know, left

1422
01:14:49.359 --> 01:14:51.840
<v Speaker 6>France during the war as they got banned and he

1423
01:14:51.880 --> 01:14:54.800
<v Speaker 6>would later be installed as the king who Napoleon would

1424
01:14:54.800 --> 01:14:58.520
<v Speaker 6>then later overthrow, right and that all that mixed. But anyhow,

1425
01:14:58.840 --> 01:15:01.159
<v Speaker 6>King Louis Philippe was a member of the society and

1426
01:15:01.199 --> 01:15:04.600
<v Speaker 6>turned on the society and you know, guillotine, a couple generals,

1427
01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:07.800
<v Speaker 6>threw a couple more in prison, banded Lafayette, that kind

1428
01:15:07.840 --> 01:15:10.760
<v Speaker 6>of thing. But nonetheless, prior to that, he was hiding

1429
01:15:10.760 --> 01:15:13.880
<v Speaker 6>out in America, you know, so in a society city

1430
01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:16.039
<v Speaker 6>in America.

1431
01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:19.840
<v Speaker 1>They're all related. Like every time I go down my family.

1432
01:15:19.479 --> 01:15:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Tree, it's like George Washington and Jefferson and dud Dad

1433
01:15:23.079 --> 01:15:27.159
<v Speaker 2>and all these really crazy and Elvis, you know, and

1434
01:15:27.159 --> 01:15:27.880
<v Speaker 2>and like all.

1435
01:15:27.760 --> 01:15:30.680
<v Speaker 1>These people, Marilyn Monroe is one. Like they're all related.

1436
01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:32.600
<v Speaker 1>So it's not it's like that kid that did the

1437
01:15:33.079 --> 01:15:35.680
<v Speaker 1>book report about all the presidents being related and all that.

1438
01:15:35.800 --> 01:15:38.720
<v Speaker 1>It's true because I can see it like in my

1439
01:15:38.840 --> 01:15:43.159
<v Speaker 1>own branch, Like, I mean, my dad was related to JFK.

1440
01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Side and guess who else which I didn't know, String

1441
01:15:46.199 --> 01:15:49.279
<v Speaker 2>from Wisconsin that the LDS String, the.

1442
01:15:49.279 --> 01:15:50.079
<v Speaker 1>Weird guy, do you know?

1443
01:15:51.720 --> 01:15:55.439
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and he's my non Mormon relative, which was hysterical

1444
01:15:55.479 --> 01:15:58.800
<v Speaker 2>because I was like, of course, it just cracked me up.

1445
01:15:58.840 --> 01:16:02.600
<v Speaker 6>But because every kind of Mormon, yeah he was.

1446
01:16:02.920 --> 01:16:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I could see it because he was out there.

1447
01:16:04.920 --> 01:16:07.960
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's funny to me to see it in

1448
01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:11.159
<v Speaker 2>your own line when you look and everybody's related to

1449
01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:13.760
<v Speaker 2>everybody if you're related to one of them. So obviously

1450
01:16:13.800 --> 01:16:17.000
<v Speaker 2>they were doing something with bloodlines here. Clearly it doesn't

1451
01:16:17.039 --> 01:16:19.119
<v Speaker 2>matter I'm not trying to be like ooh, look at me,

1452
01:16:19.199 --> 01:16:22.279
<v Speaker 2>but like you go down that line, then the medici's

1453
01:16:22.319 --> 01:16:25.039
<v Speaker 2>come up too. You know, all these people come up

1454
01:16:25.079 --> 01:16:27.399
<v Speaker 2>in my line, the house Subourbon comes up. All these

1455
01:16:27.399 --> 01:16:30.439
<v Speaker 2>people just pop pop pop. So I'm like, okay, clearly,

1456
01:16:31.119 --> 01:16:33.560
<v Speaker 2>and then they're related to all the presidents. And I'm like,

1457
01:16:33.680 --> 01:16:36.760
<v Speaker 2>so I think JJ's right. They just burying people here.

1458
01:16:37.039 --> 01:16:38.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1459
01:16:38.520 --> 01:16:40.560
<v Speaker 6>I think it does matter though, right, because we're sold

1460
01:16:40.600 --> 01:16:43.560
<v Speaker 6>a different narrative than these circumstances. Right, We're sold this

1461
01:16:43.640 --> 01:16:45.640
<v Speaker 6>is everyone has a chance to be present. And I

1462
01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:48.119
<v Speaker 6>can tell you that's not true. You have right genes

1463
01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:50.880
<v Speaker 6>in your body to get that make that happen, you

1464
01:16:50.920 --> 01:16:53.119
<v Speaker 6>know what I mean. We're so that you know, these

1465
01:16:53.600 --> 01:16:55.560
<v Speaker 6>rural bloodlines don't matter in America. I can tell you

1466
01:16:55.600 --> 01:16:58.079
<v Speaker 6>that's not true. I mean it's these are these ideas

1467
01:16:58.119 --> 01:17:00.520
<v Speaker 6>are ridiculous. And then they we're sould Diana.

1468
01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you're saying nowhere, Yeah, like she didn't she's related.

1469
01:17:04.520 --> 01:17:07.399
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's okay, Well, any of these people come out

1470
01:17:07.439 --> 01:17:09.319
<v Speaker 6>of nowhere. Right if you look at the through the

1471
01:17:09.359 --> 01:17:12.560
<v Speaker 6>lens of this weird parapolitical stuff with as you point out,

1472
01:17:12.600 --> 01:17:15.319
<v Speaker 6>with all the JFK stuff. It starts painting a vast

1473
01:17:15.439 --> 01:17:18.920
<v Speaker 6>different picture of society in history that we currently understand.

1474
01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:21.600
<v Speaker 6>And that's probably my most that's when I when I

1475
01:17:21.640 --> 01:17:23.560
<v Speaker 6>talk about the society of Cincinnati and how all these

1476
01:17:23.840 --> 01:17:25.880
<v Speaker 6>when I talk about my own families. I've been getting

1477
01:17:25.920 --> 01:17:28.319
<v Speaker 6>some heat about this recently because I like to routinely

1478
01:17:28.359 --> 01:17:34.720
<v Speaker 6>comment on Charles Manson and I being being cousins from Pikeville, Kentucky. Yeah,

1479
01:17:34.800 --> 01:17:36.960
<v Speaker 6>some people don't like, don't like to hear you bragging

1480
01:17:36.960 --> 01:17:39.920
<v Speaker 6>about being cousins with the serial killer. I'm like, all right, whatever,

1481
01:17:40.920 --> 01:17:42.520
<v Speaker 6>But my point being is, you know these people, we

1482
01:17:42.560 --> 01:17:44.840
<v Speaker 6>know these people's names, is because they're part of the family.

1483
01:17:44.920 --> 01:17:46.880
<v Speaker 6>This is this is not as structure we're sold as

1484
01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:50.119
<v Speaker 6>far as organizing principles of society here in America, but

1485
01:17:50.199 --> 01:17:53.600
<v Speaker 6>it is the reality of what we're dealing with exactly.

1486
01:17:53.760 --> 01:17:56.479
<v Speaker 2>And so, like you said, like nothing is happenstance. So

1487
01:17:56.600 --> 01:17:58.920
<v Speaker 2>they had a plan when they came here, and they

1488
01:17:59.079 --> 01:18:00.720
<v Speaker 2>and it's clearly not tracking.

1489
01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Get real. Yeah, let's get real.

1490
01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:05.079
<v Speaker 2>And then we have the big grab of twenty twenty

1491
01:18:05.479 --> 01:18:08.439
<v Speaker 2>and then everybody gets all into DNA stuff and then

1492
01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:11.039
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden Howard Hughes's dude is like all

1493
01:18:11.039 --> 01:18:13.640
<v Speaker 2>putting in all the computer things and taking a risk

1494
01:18:13.680 --> 01:18:18.159
<v Speaker 2>of being fired by pouring that computer database from where

1495
01:18:18.640 --> 01:18:22.680
<v Speaker 2>back to Hitler it went through IBM. So it all

1496
01:18:22.720 --> 01:18:25.319
<v Speaker 2>makes sense that they're looking for all of this. I

1497
01:18:25.359 --> 01:18:27.439
<v Speaker 2>think that they tried to keep track of it, and

1498
01:18:27.479 --> 01:18:30.479
<v Speaker 2>then as things, you know, got more spread out and

1499
01:18:30.479 --> 01:18:32.399
<v Speaker 2>the Mormons had too many wives into many kids. I

1500
01:18:32.479 --> 01:18:35.640
<v Speaker 2>think that not just here but anywhere, they've lost some

1501
01:18:35.720 --> 01:18:37.720
<v Speaker 2>of it and they're trying to find it. I really

1502
01:18:37.720 --> 01:18:42.720
<v Speaker 2>do you know. I know that's really conspiratorial, but I

1503
01:18:42.760 --> 01:18:43.359
<v Speaker 2>do know this.

1504
01:18:44.800 --> 01:18:48.960
<v Speaker 8>I agree with you, Yeah, thank you.

1505
01:18:49.479 --> 01:18:51.600
<v Speaker 6>Itually agree with you. I just think that their mission

1506
01:18:51.680 --> 01:18:52.680
<v Speaker 6>is going to always fail.

1507
01:18:54.840 --> 01:18:58.119
<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep, yeah, I mean yeah.

1508
01:18:58.159 --> 01:19:01.640
<v Speaker 6>I think it's part of the alien cargo Colt concept

1509
01:19:01.640 --> 01:19:03.479
<v Speaker 6>that I like to look at these groups through their lens,

1510
01:19:03.720 --> 01:19:07.159
<v Speaker 6>like whatever mission or goals are trying to achieve, they're

1511
01:19:07.279 --> 01:19:09.680
<v Speaker 6>so off base of reality of what those what they're

1512
01:19:09.720 --> 01:19:12.880
<v Speaker 6>actually trying to achieve, you know, like the Islanders doing

1513
01:19:12.960 --> 01:19:15.319
<v Speaker 6>dances to get g I. Joe to drop off more

1514
01:19:15.359 --> 01:19:18.359
<v Speaker 6>palettes of suppose that will never happen no matter how

1515
01:19:18.359 --> 01:19:21.239
<v Speaker 6>many dances you do right, no matter whatever these folks

1516
01:19:21.279 --> 01:19:23.920
<v Speaker 6>are up to, and they're collective organized, you know, games

1517
01:19:23.960 --> 01:19:26.880
<v Speaker 6>in shanigans, like they're never going to achieve it because

1518
01:19:26.880 --> 01:19:29.760
<v Speaker 6>it's a fictional goal. It's it's not a real thing.

1519
01:19:30.840 --> 01:19:34.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, and to Lisa's point, I'm like, Okay, all of

1520
01:19:34.119 --> 01:19:37.079
<v Speaker 2>these people are here and this weird stuff is happening,

1521
01:19:37.119 --> 01:19:39.680
<v Speaker 2>and we've got the genetic control with the Mormons.

1522
01:19:40.119 --> 01:19:41.720
<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing the DAP did.

1523
01:19:41.760 --> 01:19:45.159
<v Speaker 2>He got arrested the very day all of the board

1524
01:19:45.199 --> 01:19:47.520
<v Speaker 2>of twenty three meters quit and I've got the screenshot

1525
01:19:47.600 --> 01:19:50.439
<v Speaker 2>for that, and and I'm like, look, that can't just

1526
01:19:50.479 --> 01:19:54.800
<v Speaker 2>be random timing, Like, let's get rose contrived.

1527
01:19:54.960 --> 01:19:56.439
<v Speaker 8>It was a percent.

1528
01:19:57.680 --> 01:20:02.000
<v Speaker 5>And everybody yeah right before that, yeah, yeah, Well the

1529
01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:04.159
<v Speaker 5>fact that it was going to go bang Upton, that

1530
01:20:04.319 --> 01:20:07.439
<v Speaker 5>means that now it's up for sale, someone's going to

1531
01:20:07.439 --> 01:20:09.840
<v Speaker 5>buy it, right, And now it's the whole the whole

1532
01:20:09.880 --> 01:20:13.119
<v Speaker 5>gig is that the people that were behind twenty three

1533
01:20:13.159 --> 01:20:16.159
<v Speaker 5>in me was Alphabet, right, I mean.

1534
01:20:16.279 --> 01:20:20.199
<v Speaker 2>Right, and Alphabet is Alphabet is one of the top

1535
01:20:20.279 --> 01:20:22.520
<v Speaker 2>ten investors of the Mormon Church.

1536
01:20:22.960 --> 01:20:27.720
<v Speaker 5>Right, I mean Sergey Brynn is married to the Wojiski, Right,

1537
01:20:27.800 --> 01:20:30.439
<v Speaker 5>family or a now they're divorced, whatever, But how do

1538
01:20:30.520 --> 01:20:32.960
<v Speaker 5>you have twenty three in me and YouTube in your

1539
01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:33.600
<v Speaker 5>back pocket?

1540
01:20:33.640 --> 01:20:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Now?

1541
01:20:34.199 --> 01:20:34.439
<v Speaker 5>You know?

1542
01:20:34.760 --> 01:20:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Because YouTube? I know. I know how about YouTube

1543
01:20:37.920 --> 01:20:39.119
<v Speaker 1>because that.

1544
01:20:39.159 --> 01:20:43.720
<v Speaker 2>Twenty three and me was owned by the Wartiski and her.

1545
01:20:43.640 --> 01:20:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Sister owns YouTube.

1546
01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:49.840
<v Speaker 2>And she died and her son died, so they just

1547
01:20:49.840 --> 01:20:52.600
<v Speaker 2>swooped it all up. It's like a Clinton path. I

1548
01:20:52.640 --> 01:20:57.399
<v Speaker 2>hate to say, right, that's me, but I mean, yeah,

1549
01:20:57.600 --> 01:21:01.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. They seem to choose death over anything else,

1550
01:21:01.199 --> 01:21:03.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I do. I did read in her

1551
01:21:03.359 --> 01:21:09.079
<v Speaker 2>memoirs also that at one point Jack put her in

1552
01:21:09.079 --> 01:21:12.119
<v Speaker 2>in a mental place because she was drinking so much

1553
01:21:12.119 --> 01:21:14.319
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, and it was all on the hush hush.

1554
01:21:14.359 --> 01:21:16.840
<v Speaker 2>So if he did that and they really thought that

1555
01:21:16.960 --> 01:21:21.560
<v Speaker 2>she might get compromised, that would piss her off. Plus

1556
01:21:21.760 --> 01:21:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I read that now I haven't checked the name on this,

1557
01:21:24.439 --> 01:21:26.840
<v Speaker 2>but I did read that Marilyn and her were seeing

1558
01:21:26.880 --> 01:21:30.239
<v Speaker 2>the same psychiatrist, if it's the one for when she died.

1559
01:21:30.720 --> 01:21:36.199
<v Speaker 2>That guy, that guy was completely implicated in that whole situation.

1560
01:21:36.359 --> 01:21:41.359
<v Speaker 1>But his nurse was a Mormon, so.

1561
01:21:42.800 --> 01:21:46.319
<v Speaker 6>Interesting. I mean, there was only one Mormon ward in

1562
01:21:46.399 --> 01:21:49.199
<v Speaker 6>DC at that time, I believe mm hm.

1563
01:21:50.840 --> 01:21:51.279
<v Speaker 1>And so.

1564
01:21:51.399 --> 01:21:55.159
<v Speaker 2>And there's some comments in the this comment is interesting

1565
01:21:55.279 --> 01:21:58.880
<v Speaker 2>here about you all and that he's involved with the

1566
01:21:58.920 --> 01:22:01.760
<v Speaker 2>whole sex scandal the hambling victims.

1567
01:22:03.279 --> 01:22:07.199
<v Speaker 1>And if that's true, that's a huge drappit hole. I mean,

1568
01:22:07.359 --> 01:22:08.159
<v Speaker 1>that's wild.

1569
01:22:08.600 --> 01:22:15.319
<v Speaker 2>So that goes into a whole mess, so which I'd like.

1570
01:22:15.279 --> 01:22:17.159
<v Speaker 6>To talk and ask you what did Marilyn ever?

1571
01:22:18.560 --> 01:22:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I just don't want to lose everything I have,

1572
01:22:21.920 --> 01:22:24.239
<v Speaker 2>because everybody that it has ever talked about the Hambling

1573
01:22:24.279 --> 01:22:26.000
<v Speaker 2>cases on podcasts disappears.

1574
01:22:26.079 --> 01:22:28.000
<v Speaker 1>So they just quit.

1575
01:22:28.439 --> 01:22:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Like the last girl that did it, she went on

1576
01:22:30.800 --> 01:22:32.680
<v Speaker 2>the big show, right, and then all of a sudden,

1577
01:22:32.720 --> 01:22:35.960
<v Speaker 2>now she just does a baking show. I'm like, what

1578
01:22:36.600 --> 01:22:41.479
<v Speaker 2>she was great? Yeah, and I was like, that's weird, okay, hmm.

1579
01:22:42.600 --> 01:22:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Whatever paid her off or she got scared, I don't know.

1580
01:22:47.079 --> 01:22:49.079
<v Speaker 1>So it's weird.

1581
01:22:49.279 --> 01:22:51.600
<v Speaker 2>If you look into Sam's stuff that he's put out

1582
01:22:51.640 --> 01:22:53.560
<v Speaker 2>and just put in Mormon, she'll come right up.

1583
01:22:54.640 --> 01:22:58.800
<v Speaker 1>So I can't remember her name right now, but she disappeared.

1584
01:22:58.920 --> 01:22:59.479
<v Speaker 1>She just quit.

1585
01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:02.039
<v Speaker 2>She didn't say like I'm gonna stop after this season.

1586
01:23:02.239 --> 01:23:04.800
<v Speaker 2>It was like and tomorrow and then there was no tomorrow.

1587
01:23:05.079 --> 01:23:09.920
<v Speaker 1>When she got promoted, right, Yeah, she's now a cook

1588
01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:14.840
<v Speaker 1>for weed like she whatever. I'm like, Okay, that's weird.

1589
01:23:15.119 --> 01:23:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Seems completely left filled for a girl that was going

1590
01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:19.560
<v Speaker 2>after really serious journalism.

1591
01:23:19.920 --> 01:23:21.720
<v Speaker 1>But I mean that's fine, I guess.

1592
01:23:22.399 --> 01:23:25.640
<v Speaker 2>And then everybody moved to Scotland and they don't eat

1593
01:23:25.680 --> 01:23:27.279
<v Speaker 2>children because they said so.

1594
01:23:27.279 --> 01:23:33.600
<v Speaker 3>So I wanted to bring up before this is for

1595
01:23:33.720 --> 01:23:34.640
<v Speaker 3>me Jill or queen.

1596
01:23:35.119 --> 01:23:36.079
<v Speaker 1>Somebody just said it.

1597
01:23:36.359 --> 01:23:36.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

1598
01:23:36.760 --> 01:23:38.560
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if it was maybe the same for

1599
01:23:38.640 --> 01:23:40.960
<v Speaker 4>other people, but I think just from the simple fact

1600
01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:44.399
<v Speaker 4>of like, guess, going through school history at some point

1601
01:23:44.439 --> 01:23:46.800
<v Speaker 4>when you start getting to like, I guess current world

1602
01:23:47.119 --> 01:23:49.960
<v Speaker 4>what's going on, France always seems to play that whole

1603
01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:55.199
<v Speaker 4>neutral thing. So like I just guess, like maybe subconsciously,

1604
01:23:55.239 --> 01:23:58.560
<v Speaker 4>even just from then, I never really thought much of them,

1605
01:23:59.079 --> 01:24:01.520
<v Speaker 4>but like you know, now, I guess as a conspiracy

1606
01:24:01.560 --> 01:24:06.520
<v Speaker 4>theorism and occultist. I'm just like, I don't buy that anymore.

1607
01:24:09.520 --> 01:24:11.520
<v Speaker 4>Meant to look over there and oh, yeah, they're just

1608
01:24:11.520 --> 01:24:13.199
<v Speaker 4>doing nothing. They have nothing to say about this that

1609
01:24:13.239 --> 01:24:14.079
<v Speaker 4>I get involved.

1610
01:24:15.119 --> 01:24:16.000
<v Speaker 8>Well exactly.

1611
01:24:17.239 --> 01:24:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Exactly exactly, so it's.

1612
01:24:18.760 --> 01:24:20.520
<v Speaker 3>Like, oh, we're not getting involved, but we're sending this

1613
01:24:20.800 --> 01:24:21.239
<v Speaker 3>too early.

1614
01:24:22.079 --> 01:24:27.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, at the time that they came over and started America.

1615
01:24:27.560 --> 01:24:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Everybody wants to talk about Scottish Right, Scottish Right, Scottish Rite,

1616
01:24:30.680 --> 01:24:33.600
<v Speaker 2>but it's too new at that time. As far as organization,

1617
01:24:33.720 --> 01:24:35.640
<v Speaker 2>it makes more sense that it would be something like

1618
01:24:35.720 --> 01:24:39.319
<v Speaker 2>Martinism or one of those branches that actually practice magic,

1619
01:24:39.399 --> 01:24:43.000
<v Speaker 2>which is sawmonic magic, which would explain a lot about

1620
01:24:43.039 --> 01:24:46.239
<v Speaker 2>like occultism in the government and these things that they've

1621
01:24:46.279 --> 01:24:48.520
<v Speaker 2>been caught doing, like at cerned in different places, like

1622
01:24:48.600 --> 01:24:52.359
<v Speaker 2>weird stuff that you know is not supposed to happen, right,

1623
01:24:52.600 --> 01:24:55.560
<v Speaker 2>but then that gets into a weird thing with you.

1624
01:24:56.680 --> 01:25:00.000
<v Speaker 6>How are you?

1625
01:25:00.079 --> 01:25:00.319
<v Speaker 3>What's that?

1626
01:25:01.960 --> 01:25:04.399
<v Speaker 6>Do you think the Martinists in the in the Scottish

1627
01:25:04.479 --> 01:25:07.760
<v Speaker 6>Right match together in France there in the early seventeen hundreds.

1628
01:25:07.720 --> 01:25:10.960
<v Speaker 1>So Martinism is actually.

1629
01:25:10.720 --> 01:25:14.119
<v Speaker 6>I think the Scottish Rite invaded France in seventeen twenty.

1630
01:25:14.119 --> 01:25:16.159
<v Speaker 6>Maybe they they were.

1631
01:25:16.479 --> 01:25:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Martinism is a practicing branch, so they just actually performed

1632
01:25:21.800 --> 01:25:25.720
<v Speaker 2>magic instead of just talking about it. So they are

1633
01:25:25.760 --> 01:25:32.279
<v Speaker 2>an actual solomonic magic practitioner. One So and Cagliostro at

1634
01:25:32.279 --> 01:25:34.479
<v Speaker 2>the same time, so three of them started it. I

1635
01:25:34.520 --> 01:25:36.399
<v Speaker 2>do have a show on this I can't remember what

1636
01:25:36.479 --> 01:25:39.279
<v Speaker 2>number it is, but you guys see Martinism in it,

1637
01:25:39.399 --> 01:25:43.479
<v Speaker 2>and it talks all about how these three guys brought

1638
01:25:43.520 --> 01:25:46.720
<v Speaker 2>it about. But Cagliostro took off and he took it

1639
01:25:46.760 --> 01:25:50.119
<v Speaker 2>one way, and that's like the ninety something degrees. And

1640
01:25:50.159 --> 01:25:54.000
<v Speaker 2>then you know the guy that it's actually named after,

1641
01:25:54.840 --> 01:25:58.239
<v Speaker 2>he went more Order of the Heart and he decided

1642
01:25:58.279 --> 01:26:01.119
<v Speaker 2>it was too scary. And I don't know what he saw,

1643
01:26:01.159 --> 01:26:04.319
<v Speaker 2>but you know, pslomonic magic is not to be messed

1644
01:26:04.359 --> 01:26:05.920
<v Speaker 2>with really unless you absolutely know.

1645
01:26:05.840 --> 01:26:06.439
<v Speaker 1>What you're doing.

1646
01:26:07.079 --> 01:26:09.760
<v Speaker 2>And even then a lot of practitioners were like, no,

1647
01:26:09.920 --> 01:26:12.760
<v Speaker 2>Jinn has told me himself like that, yeah, you it's

1648
01:26:12.800 --> 01:26:16.560
<v Speaker 2>it can be scary. So I mean that guy he

1649
01:26:16.840 --> 01:26:19.159
<v Speaker 2>decided just to be the Sacred Heart part, and then

1650
01:26:19.319 --> 01:26:22.640
<v Speaker 2>this other one he went through and made like the

1651
01:26:22.680 --> 01:26:27.159
<v Speaker 2>Martinist part, and and so it goes into, uh, the

1652
01:26:27.239 --> 01:26:33.399
<v Speaker 2>big one that Sir Hans Sirhan was involved in Amerik.

1653
01:26:34.439 --> 01:26:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like a order.

1654
01:26:36.039 --> 01:26:38.560
<v Speaker 6>I'd be interested to know the epicenter of those activities.

1655
01:26:38.600 --> 01:26:41.520
<v Speaker 4>And oh, go ahead, Nick, I was just saying, Aymork

1656
01:26:41.640 --> 01:26:43.840
<v Speaker 4>is like a mail order kind of two please.

1657
01:26:45.119 --> 01:26:48.439
<v Speaker 2>But back then, but back then, I don't know, because

1658
01:26:48.439 --> 01:26:50.720
<v Speaker 2>they were talking about Sir Hans, Sir Hand going to

1659
01:26:50.800 --> 01:26:56.199
<v Speaker 2>Manly p Hall's lectures and so you know, then we

1660
01:26:56.279 --> 01:27:00.960
<v Speaker 2>get into some weird stuff. So again that that psychiatrist

1661
01:27:01.119 --> 01:27:05.560
<v Speaker 2>came out later saying that he had hypnotized him, and

1662
01:27:06.479 --> 01:27:10.600
<v Speaker 2>so then they and then he died. Then the prostitutes

1663
01:27:10.800 --> 01:27:12.600
<v Speaker 2>and thing he told them, and then he died.

1664
01:27:14.840 --> 01:27:16.640
<v Speaker 6>I don't know enough about Martinism, I do, I do.

1665
01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:19.119
<v Speaker 6>I am interested to know that the epicenter of these activities,

1666
01:27:19.119 --> 01:27:22.079
<v Speaker 6>they're hotty with the early French onset of Scottish right,

1667
01:27:22.119 --> 01:27:26.000
<v Speaker 6>because there was a Scotsman by the name of Andrew

1668
01:27:26.079 --> 01:27:28.720
<v Speaker 6>Ramsey who came to France I think around seventeen twenty,

1669
01:27:28.720 --> 01:27:32.079
<v Speaker 6>and he's allegedly the guy who introduces Scottish rite freemason

1670
01:27:32.239 --> 01:27:35.079
<v Speaker 6>or France. But he's also allegedly a member of the

1671
01:27:35.119 --> 01:27:40.439
<v Speaker 6>Priory of Psion and best friends with folks like Alexander

1672
01:27:40.479 --> 01:27:44.800
<v Speaker 6>Pope and Sir Isaac Newton. So the dudes integrated into

1673
01:27:44.840 --> 01:27:46.840
<v Speaker 6>all sorts of magical activities in France, and he's the

1674
01:27:46.840 --> 01:27:49.880
<v Speaker 6>guy that brings Scottish rights. So I am curious to

1675
01:27:49.920 --> 01:27:52.680
<v Speaker 6>know kind of that where producers there in the early

1676
01:27:52.720 --> 01:27:54.079
<v Speaker 6>seventeen hundreds there.

1677
01:27:55.600 --> 01:28:01.199
<v Speaker 5>JJ the whole Nazi thing, it wasn't I mean, they

1678
01:28:01.239 --> 01:28:06.199
<v Speaker 5>went into France and confiscated all of the freemasonry stuff.

1679
01:28:07.119 --> 01:28:09.800
<v Speaker 8>It was not a war of it's.

1680
01:28:09.560 --> 01:28:14.960
<v Speaker 5>The war of conquering or absorbing all of the magical knowledge.

1681
01:28:15.680 --> 01:28:15.960
<v Speaker 5>That's what.

1682
01:28:19.199 --> 01:28:22.119
<v Speaker 3>Italy into Ethiopia. It is still occult stuff.

1683
01:28:23.039 --> 01:28:26.399
<v Speaker 1>Correct, This is why we went to war with them,

1684
01:28:26.720 --> 01:28:29.359
<v Speaker 1>and why did we go in into the Middle East

1685
01:28:29.359 --> 01:28:31.920
<v Speaker 1>too to get Nimrod stuff, I believe.

1686
01:28:31.800 --> 01:28:36.479
<v Speaker 2>You know, And so hey, what's up, Tim. But I

1687
01:28:36.479 --> 01:28:40.960
<v Speaker 2>did want to answer Valo the Valo question. I did

1688
01:28:41.039 --> 01:28:44.680
<v Speaker 2>have an interview with Lori, Valo's niece, and I will

1689
01:28:44.720 --> 01:28:48.319
<v Speaker 2>be putting that up pretty soon. And you know, it

1690
01:28:48.399 --> 01:28:51.319
<v Speaker 2>was very It was hard for her. You know, she's

1691
01:28:51.399 --> 01:28:55.880
<v Speaker 2>JJ's aunt on that side, so it was really sad

1692
01:28:55.920 --> 01:28:58.119
<v Speaker 2>for her. And she's a nice lady. She does podcasts

1693
01:28:58.119 --> 01:29:00.600
<v Speaker 2>on it, So yeah, just sad.

1694
01:29:01.079 --> 01:29:02.720
<v Speaker 4>One thing I did want to add real quick about

1695
01:29:02.720 --> 01:29:05.560
<v Speaker 4>Martinism before we move on or whatever, where I forget

1696
01:29:06.760 --> 01:29:09.720
<v Speaker 4>I don't know much about it, but when I was

1697
01:29:09.720 --> 01:29:12.840
<v Speaker 4>getting interested in joining something to sort of like figuring

1698
01:29:12.880 --> 01:29:14.520
<v Speaker 4>out like what's going on in these orders or like

1699
01:29:14.560 --> 01:29:18.319
<v Speaker 4>what's magic. You know, I've mentioned it multiple times. I

1700
01:29:18.399 --> 01:29:22.279
<v Speaker 4>really I would have preferred the Golden Down. There wasn't

1701
01:29:22.279 --> 01:29:24.239
<v Speaker 4>one near me. Again, I wasn't all that all that

1702
01:29:24.359 --> 01:29:26.960
<v Speaker 4>about the OTO because of Crowley's association or you know

1703
01:29:26.960 --> 01:29:31.399
<v Speaker 4>how just whatever. And I knew freemasonry was just going

1704
01:29:31.479 --> 01:29:33.199
<v Speaker 4>to take way too long because I knew somebody who

1705
01:29:33.239 --> 01:29:36.079
<v Speaker 4>was in the OTO and freemasonry, and they had told me,

1706
01:29:36.159 --> 01:29:38.239
<v Speaker 4>they said, the only other thing I could think of maybe,

1707
01:29:38.479 --> 01:29:40.760
<v Speaker 4>they said, try the Martinists. They said, you will walk

1708
01:29:40.800 --> 01:29:43.119
<v Speaker 4>inside the door and you'll be able to practice magic

1709
01:29:43.159 --> 01:29:44.880
<v Speaker 4>as if the Golden Doorn or the Oto.

1710
01:29:45.319 --> 01:29:46.920
<v Speaker 3>You won't have to wait like freemason me.

1711
01:29:47.359 --> 01:29:48.960
<v Speaker 4>And he even said that he's again and they do

1712
01:29:49.119 --> 01:29:52.439
<v Speaker 4>actually kind of do things as in like freemasonry will do.

1713
01:29:52.479 --> 01:29:54.880
<v Speaker 4>He's like maybe every one every year or every two years,

1714
01:29:54.880 --> 01:29:56.479
<v Speaker 4>they'll they'll go on a cruise together and they'll put

1715
01:29:56.479 --> 01:29:58.439
<v Speaker 4>money together and the lodge will actually go out and

1716
01:29:58.439 --> 01:30:02.279
<v Speaker 4>do something, he said. But he did say that, you know,

1717
01:30:02.560 --> 01:30:05.079
<v Speaker 4>occultism and magic will be right there for you to

1718
01:30:05.079 --> 01:30:06.399
<v Speaker 4>play with as soon as you walk in the door.

1719
01:30:07.520 --> 01:30:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, and that's irresponsible, knowing that it's solomonic magic and

1720
01:30:10.840 --> 01:30:13.720
<v Speaker 2>knowing how many things can go wrong, you know.

1721
01:30:14.199 --> 01:30:17.239
<v Speaker 1>So, I mean, in my opinion.

1722
01:30:17.840 --> 01:30:20.039
<v Speaker 6>Do they have chicka golfs like the Freemasons do?

1723
01:30:21.720 --> 01:30:22.600
<v Speaker 3>I have no idea.

1724
01:30:22.760 --> 01:30:25.439
<v Speaker 6>Just your friendly neighborhood ceremonial magicians cooking some chili.

1725
01:30:26.119 --> 01:30:28.039
<v Speaker 1>Hey, we could ask some of them. I think there's some.

1726
01:30:28.399 --> 01:30:30.399
<v Speaker 4>Then, and then right next to that, after you don't

1727
01:30:30.399 --> 01:30:32.720
<v Speaker 4>want that, you can go to the Lions the Lions

1728
01:30:32.720 --> 01:30:34.319
<v Speaker 4>club set up and get your eyes checked.

1729
01:30:35.359 --> 01:30:37.439
<v Speaker 3>You know he got.

1730
01:30:39.119 --> 01:30:40.560
<v Speaker 6>And then if you want, you can go talk about

1731
01:30:40.880 --> 01:30:41.640
<v Speaker 6>club on your way out.

1732
01:30:41.720 --> 01:30:43.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, go stop at the Rotary Club. They'll drop you

1733
01:30:43.560 --> 01:30:44.399
<v Speaker 3>off a lady bird Lake.

1734
01:30:48.800 --> 01:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh boy.

1735
01:30:50.560 --> 01:30:53.319
<v Speaker 2>This is why we're not supposed to take us right.

1736
01:30:53.479 --> 01:30:56.800
<v Speaker 2>This is this gets into complications that are just massive.

1737
01:30:57.159 --> 01:30:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know.

1738
01:30:59.000 --> 01:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like there's a lot of efferey going

1739
01:31:01.960 --> 01:31:06.479
<v Speaker 1>on here. I'm on you know, I'm on the side

1740
01:31:06.520 --> 01:31:08.039
<v Speaker 1>of that. This is all related.

1741
01:31:08.319 --> 01:31:10.680
<v Speaker 2>I think JJ has got a really good point with

1742
01:31:10.760 --> 01:31:13.319
<v Speaker 2>the Society of Cincinnati on a lot of this. We

1743
01:31:13.399 --> 01:31:16.199
<v Speaker 2>see all these societies coming up and I'm like, Okay,

1744
01:31:16.239 --> 01:31:18.920
<v Speaker 2>they're not in this just for games. And I don't

1745
01:31:18.920 --> 01:31:20.960
<v Speaker 2>think they're just in it for money either. I think

1746
01:31:21.000 --> 01:31:23.159
<v Speaker 2>there's some bloodlines that talk here.

1747
01:31:25.000 --> 01:31:25.640
<v Speaker 6>Exactly.

1748
01:31:26.880 --> 01:31:27.279
<v Speaker 1>I think.

1749
01:31:31.680 --> 01:31:35.479
<v Speaker 6>Behind this there's some LOGISTI yeah, but it's one thing

1750
01:31:35.479 --> 01:31:37.000
<v Speaker 6>to track it. But like then how do you get

1751
01:31:37.000 --> 01:31:39.720
<v Speaker 6>these folks to intermarry? Like there's somebody, I don't know,

1752
01:31:39.760 --> 01:31:41.000
<v Speaker 6>folks tracking these things.

1753
01:31:41.359 --> 01:31:45.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, there's somebody given the orders. It's the unknown

1754
01:31:45.680 --> 01:31:50.239
<v Speaker 2>superior that gives the orders.

1755
01:31:50.840 --> 01:31:56.319
<v Speaker 6>Uh yeah, these maybe ultra terrestrial type characters that are

1756
01:31:56.319 --> 01:31:59.600
<v Speaker 6>giving these words. I don't know, but somebody, somebody is

1757
01:31:59.680 --> 01:32:00.600
<v Speaker 6>tracked these things.

1758
01:32:01.039 --> 01:32:03.000
<v Speaker 2>We go back to the seance of the Nine that's

1759
01:32:03.079 --> 01:32:07.239
<v Speaker 2>involved in this JFK part, and it really makes you wonder.

1760
01:32:07.880 --> 01:32:10.479
<v Speaker 2>You know, all of those people at that seance that

1761
01:32:10.560 --> 01:32:14.039
<v Speaker 2>we talked about. That seance was super important. With the

1762
01:32:14.039 --> 01:32:16.720
<v Speaker 2>people that were there. They were all the old money families.

1763
01:32:16.760 --> 01:32:19.920
<v Speaker 2>They were all that like the Morgans and the I

1764
01:32:19.960 --> 01:32:22.079
<v Speaker 2>can't remember all of them now, but they were very

1765
01:32:22.159 --> 01:32:25.520
<v Speaker 2>they were all the top echelon basically, and so and

1766
01:32:25.680 --> 01:32:30.199
<v Speaker 2>Doulas's girlfriend was there, Doulas's girl, and Ruth.

1767
01:32:30.039 --> 01:32:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Payne, Ruth Payne was there.

1768
01:32:33.359 --> 01:32:37.319
<v Speaker 2>The senior Ruth Paine, not not the younger, but Michael

1769
01:32:37.319 --> 01:32:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Payne's mother that worked for Bell Helicopter was there.

1770
01:32:43.159 --> 01:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>It's weird.

1771
01:32:44.520 --> 01:32:47.560
<v Speaker 6>They're friendly Nazis bell helicopters exactly.

1772
01:32:47.520 --> 01:32:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and then they've got all this forbidden knowledge and

1773
01:32:50.039 --> 01:32:53.760
<v Speaker 2>they're building helicopters. It's fine. They brought some stuff here

1774
01:32:53.760 --> 01:32:56.079
<v Speaker 2>that is very strange. And then you get into you know,

1775
01:32:56.159 --> 01:32:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Parsons and all these people are like inner woven somehow,

1776
01:33:00.119 --> 01:33:02.920
<v Speaker 2>people that you would never think were like it makes

1777
01:33:02.960 --> 01:33:03.520
<v Speaker 2>no sense.

1778
01:33:05.640 --> 01:33:14.279
<v Speaker 6>He's another character Society Cincinnati Heritage. He recent discovery of mine.

1779
01:33:14.279 --> 01:33:17.279
<v Speaker 6>I've been I've been going deep on the occult genealogies

1780
01:33:17.279 --> 01:33:20.520
<v Speaker 6>of America. Here the occult characters. After looking at all the

1781
01:33:20.680 --> 01:33:21.880
<v Speaker 6>Justice Smith stuff.

1782
01:33:22.359 --> 01:33:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Right, it's crazy. I think they lie about Justicph Smith's kids.

1783
01:33:25.880 --> 01:33:33.560
<v Speaker 2>I think there's definitely some extra kids, but they get yeah, yeah,

1784
01:33:33.680 --> 01:33:36.159
<v Speaker 2>I did see that they had paid off certain well

1785
01:33:36.439 --> 01:33:38.760
<v Speaker 2>I can't prove the payoff part. I did see that

1786
01:33:38.840 --> 01:33:41.000
<v Speaker 2>they had certain people that they asked to never take

1787
01:33:41.359 --> 01:33:44.039
<v Speaker 2>a genealogy test. But that's not going to work because

1788
01:33:44.079 --> 01:33:46.319
<v Speaker 2>what about all their kids and their kids and there.

1789
01:33:46.399 --> 01:33:49.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know, there must be like a tracking,

1790
01:33:49.479 --> 01:33:51.800
<v Speaker 2>like you said, on certain blood lines and they just

1791
01:33:51.840 --> 01:33:53.199
<v Speaker 2>probably knew it and say.

1792
01:33:53.039 --> 01:33:57.359
<v Speaker 1>Ah, that was a string. I don't know who blame

1793
01:33:57.399 --> 01:33:58.079
<v Speaker 1>it on someone else.

1794
01:33:58.359 --> 01:34:04.239
<v Speaker 5>For most of what I assume, the Abrahamic religions center

1795
01:34:04.359 --> 01:34:07.880
<v Speaker 5>their faith on not being of this world, to not

1796
01:34:08.000 --> 01:34:11.720
<v Speaker 5>attach yourself to earthly realms. Yet in Genesis and in

1797
01:34:11.800 --> 01:34:16.760
<v Speaker 5>all of the abraham religious texts, they begin with telling

1798
01:34:16.800 --> 01:34:22.119
<v Speaker 5>you bloodlines. Why would that matter? Right, It's it does matter,

1799
01:34:22.239 --> 01:34:22.920
<v Speaker 5>it does matter.

1800
01:34:23.239 --> 01:34:26.920
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I agree. I mean, you know, there's they

1801
01:34:26.960 --> 01:34:29.479
<v Speaker 2>dedicate a whole lot of the Bible too, and they

1802
01:34:29.520 --> 01:34:35.720
<v Speaker 2>begat and begat and begat. Okay, so they're begatting, And yeah,

1803
01:34:35.840 --> 01:34:37.359
<v Speaker 2>I think the bloodlines are tainted.

1804
01:34:37.439 --> 01:34:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I do think that they.

1805
01:34:38.479 --> 01:34:43.279
<v Speaker 2>Have taken the DNA from Nimrod and used it for

1806
01:34:43.359 --> 01:34:46.560
<v Speaker 2>their purposes. Because he became a mighty man of old.

1807
01:34:47.079 --> 01:34:49.680
<v Speaker 2>He wasn't one to begin with. And I do find

1808
01:34:49.720 --> 01:34:53.159
<v Speaker 2>it very strange and interesting that how did he do that?

1809
01:34:53.279 --> 01:34:58.399
<v Speaker 2>He put on the garment, right, the nakashious garment. That's

1810
01:34:58.439 --> 01:35:01.079
<v Speaker 2>how he became a mighty mani old. And what do

1811
01:35:01.199 --> 01:35:04.159
<v Speaker 2>the Mormons wear a special garment? You bet you're ass

1812
01:35:04.199 --> 01:35:08.920
<v Speaker 2>they do. So between that and their sinews talk at

1813
01:35:08.920 --> 01:35:12.119
<v Speaker 2>the veil and all that crap, I'm like, oh my gosh,

1814
01:35:12.159 --> 01:35:14.880
<v Speaker 2>this is serious. They know and I think that's why

1815
01:35:14.880 --> 01:35:18.800
<v Speaker 2>they're flexing right now, where it's all over that they've

1816
01:35:18.840 --> 01:35:20.960
<v Speaker 2>boughten like Westminster Abbey.

1817
01:35:21.000 --> 01:35:21.520
<v Speaker 1>That's weird.

1818
01:35:22.000 --> 01:35:25.760
<v Speaker 2>And also it's all over that they built their temple

1819
01:35:25.840 --> 01:35:28.399
<v Speaker 2>right down the street from the Vatican, but Salt Lake

1820
01:35:28.439 --> 01:35:32.760
<v Speaker 2>City is now remodeled just like the Vatican and like

1821
01:35:32.800 --> 01:35:35.840
<v Speaker 2>a keyhole. And they took out the Living Waters fountain,

1822
01:35:35.880 --> 01:35:39.479
<v Speaker 2>which was hugely important for LDS people, and replaced it

1823
01:35:39.520 --> 01:35:42.720
<v Speaker 2>with a big New World Order flag display and tell

1824
01:35:42.760 --> 01:35:45.840
<v Speaker 2>them to be good global citizens. I mean, they're not

1825
01:35:45.880 --> 01:35:48.640
<v Speaker 2>even trying anymore. They're not even hiding it anymore.

1826
01:35:49.000 --> 01:35:50.159
<v Speaker 8>So they're competing.

1827
01:35:50.239 --> 01:35:52.800
<v Speaker 5>They're competing with They're competing with the Catholics to be

1828
01:35:52.880 --> 01:35:55.439
<v Speaker 5>the number one religion because at some point, I think

1829
01:35:55.640 --> 01:35:59.439
<v Speaker 5>there has to be a religion that supersedes all of them.

1830
01:35:59.560 --> 01:36:01.359
<v Speaker 5>If they're going to do this New World Order, there

1831
01:36:01.399 --> 01:36:05.159
<v Speaker 5>has four one religion that they.

1832
01:36:04.199 --> 01:36:07.119
<v Speaker 2>Right, or they'll they want to be there, or they'll

1833
01:36:07.119 --> 01:36:09.119
<v Speaker 2>be like the Freemasons and say, well, as long as

1834
01:36:09.159 --> 01:36:11.399
<v Speaker 2>you believe in God, and we're all Freemasons together, we'll

1835
01:36:11.439 --> 01:36:12.760
<v Speaker 2>just all run this bitch together.

1836
01:36:13.119 --> 01:36:16.119
<v Speaker 1>But they're all fighting about who gets to be the boss.

1837
01:36:16.720 --> 01:36:19.439
<v Speaker 2>And that's where they're I think they're going to implode,

1838
01:36:19.600 --> 01:36:21.760
<v Speaker 2>to be honest, because they're all a bunch of younger,

1839
01:36:21.960 --> 01:36:22.680
<v Speaker 2>crazy people.

1840
01:36:22.920 --> 01:36:26.039
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, it's weird.

1841
01:36:26.199 --> 01:36:28.079
<v Speaker 6>My money's down. They're gonna they're all going to come

1842
01:36:28.119 --> 01:36:30.960
<v Speaker 6>together like Voltron, all these ancient alien cargo cults, the

1843
01:36:31.159 --> 01:36:34.000
<v Speaker 6>Vatican included, and they're going to come together like Vultron,

1844
01:36:34.079 --> 01:36:36.239
<v Speaker 6>blast off this planet, leave the rest of us alone.

1845
01:36:36.319 --> 01:36:44.439
<v Speaker 1>Well, let them go, geeesh, let's please go, Yes, please go. Yeah, exactly,

1846
01:36:45.760 --> 01:36:48.439
<v Speaker 1>go to Mars. Get your elon and go to Mars.

1847
01:36:48.880 --> 01:36:54.560
<v Speaker 6>Right, Republican exactly see you you know what I'm talking about, ship.

1848
01:36:54.560 --> 01:36:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Out here exactly.

1849
01:36:57.079 --> 01:37:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Strange, very strange. But yeah, I think you know, the

1850
01:37:01.039 --> 01:37:05.840
<v Speaker 2>nods to you know, Jupiter being their god. I mean,

1851
01:37:06.840 --> 01:37:09.079
<v Speaker 2>it's all very it's all very strange.

1852
01:37:09.560 --> 01:37:12.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, it's funny. What's his name, Mcrone. When

1853
01:37:12.720 --> 01:37:16.960
<v Speaker 5>he first got into office, speaking of France, he had said,

1854
01:37:17.199 --> 01:37:19.159
<v Speaker 5>I want to rule like Jupiter.

1855
01:37:20.119 --> 01:37:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, well Jupiter.

1856
01:37:25.079 --> 01:37:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's all over those parchments for Joseph and his

1857
01:37:27.800 --> 01:37:32.520
<v Speaker 2>family and you know, yeah, the Jupiter talisman. He had

1858
01:37:32.720 --> 01:37:35.680
<v Speaker 2>all these things. And when I did my show at Chen,

1859
01:37:35.800 --> 01:37:37.479
<v Speaker 2>it's not out yet, but it will be. And we

1860
01:37:37.600 --> 01:37:40.399
<v Speaker 2>went deep into that Jupiter thing. And I'm telling you

1861
01:37:40.520 --> 01:37:44.560
<v Speaker 2>guys like they know stuff that were never even as

1862
01:37:44.680 --> 01:37:46.439
<v Speaker 2>much as I could study or as much as I

1863
01:37:46.680 --> 01:37:49.159
<v Speaker 2>collaborate with people, we're never going to have it all.

1864
01:37:49.359 --> 01:37:52.119
<v Speaker 2>But isn't it the best cover that they take their

1865
01:37:52.159 --> 01:37:55.840
<v Speaker 2>missionaries at eighteen and two years they go away like

1866
01:37:55.920 --> 01:37:59.239
<v Speaker 2>they're probably just going to mystery schools. That's my guess

1867
01:37:59.439 --> 01:38:03.720
<v Speaker 2>on the really the elites anyway, but not not the

1868
01:38:03.800 --> 01:38:11.520
<v Speaker 2>normal people of course. Yeah, weird, weird gets weird. Oh definitely,

1869
01:38:14.760 --> 01:38:17.920
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was Harris. I guess you wrap it

1870
01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:18.439
<v Speaker 2>up here, right?

1871
01:38:19.239 --> 01:38:21.079
<v Speaker 6>I actually so if you're if you were done with

1872
01:38:21.159 --> 01:38:22.640
<v Speaker 6>some of that stuff. I had a fun fact to

1873
01:38:22.680 --> 01:38:24.119
<v Speaker 6>Mormon stuff I wanted to share with you that I

1874
01:38:24.199 --> 01:38:30.000
<v Speaker 6>discovered Jodge. So I don't remember where I came across this,

1875
01:38:30.079 --> 01:38:31.520
<v Speaker 6>and I may have actually sent you nowe. I don't

1876
01:38:31.520 --> 01:38:36.840
<v Speaker 6>recall either. But Gavin Newsom's father had an attorney. There

1877
01:38:36.840 --> 01:38:39.479
<v Speaker 6>were the Getty Foundation people out there in California who

1878
01:38:39.600 --> 01:38:43.479
<v Speaker 6>was an SS officer. He worked, he's his mentor whatever

1879
01:38:43.560 --> 01:38:46.439
<v Speaker 6>business business associate or whatever in this mix. And when

1880
01:38:46.479 --> 01:38:48.520
<v Speaker 6>he got out as an SS officer, He marries a

1881
01:38:48.600 --> 01:38:50.840
<v Speaker 6>Mormon and an old folks down in southern California and

1882
01:38:50.840 --> 01:38:53.199
<v Speaker 6>claims to be Mormon citizen, gets shipped out of the country.

1883
01:38:55.239 --> 01:38:58.800
<v Speaker 1>No, no, I don't think so.

1884
01:38:59.079 --> 01:39:02.039
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the officer, Yeah, this is like so by the

1885
01:39:02.079 --> 01:39:03.960
<v Speaker 6>time he gets out in like eighty one, I think

1886
01:39:04.399 --> 01:39:07.319
<v Speaker 6>he's living in an old folks home in southern California. Again,

1887
01:39:08.119 --> 01:39:11.640
<v Speaker 6>very big time Getty's Newsome's all that stuff there in California,

1888
01:39:11.840 --> 01:39:14.640
<v Speaker 6>doing business business stuff with him for years after all

1889
01:39:14.680 --> 01:39:17.840
<v Speaker 6>the spook activity's an SS officer stuff because I think

1890
01:39:17.880 --> 01:39:19.880
<v Speaker 6>he was part of the Brian Hurt Galen network after

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01:39:19.920 --> 01:39:22.840
<v Speaker 6>the war, and you know, all this stuff gets out

1892
01:39:22.880 --> 01:39:24.439
<v Speaker 6>and he's like, oh, no, I'm a Mormon now. I

1893
01:39:24.479 --> 01:39:26.600
<v Speaker 6>married this Mormon lady in this old folks home and

1894
01:39:27.600 --> 01:39:31.000
<v Speaker 6>you know, so he's trying to get charges. Was I'm

1895
01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:31.640
<v Speaker 6>a Mormon now?

1896
01:39:32.079 --> 01:39:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh.

1897
01:39:33.319 --> 01:39:35.000
<v Speaker 6>But he must know something, right, He must say something

1898
01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:37.520
<v Speaker 6>about California, right, He must know who runs California. Right.

1899
01:39:37.920 --> 01:39:40.600
<v Speaker 6>Maybe it's not Gettys. Maybe it is the Mormons. He

1900
01:39:40.680 --> 01:39:42.680
<v Speaker 6>already worked for the Getties, he already knew them, right,

1901
01:39:43.000 --> 01:39:44.119
<v Speaker 6>Why would he need to go Mormon?

1902
01:39:44.279 --> 01:39:47.079
<v Speaker 1>Right? Well, I'll tell you what I think.

1903
01:39:47.159 --> 01:39:51.039
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes as Bill Schnellenbaum, I can't remember how to say

1904
01:39:51.039 --> 01:39:54.760
<v Speaker 2>his last name kind of came out. Yes, he said

1905
01:39:55.039 --> 01:39:57.279
<v Speaker 2>that they told him, if you ever get in trouble,

1906
01:39:57.640 --> 01:39:58.479
<v Speaker 2>go be a Mormon.

1907
01:39:58.720 --> 01:40:00.720
<v Speaker 1>So maybe that was the card he you pulled. I

1908
01:40:00.800 --> 01:40:02.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know, that's wild.

1909
01:40:03.960 --> 01:40:08.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think they're definitely appear to be the underdog.

1910
01:40:08.640 --> 01:40:11.319
<v Speaker 2>But I even saw this morning on my phone that

1911
01:40:11.439 --> 01:40:13.920
<v Speaker 2>it said soon they will not have to use their

1912
01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:19.000
<v Speaker 2>tithing at all at all to do their investments because

1913
01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:26.520
<v Speaker 2>they're so wealthy. So yeah, there's there. And you know,

1914
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<v Speaker 2>they threw out the case. They threw out the case

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<v Speaker 2>about their financials. They threw it out, the enzyme peak stuff. No,

1916
01:40:32.520 --> 01:40:34.399
<v Speaker 2>they just threw it out day before yesterday or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Judge said, they don't have to tell you what they

1918
01:40:36.760 --> 01:40:37.359
<v Speaker 2>use their money for.

1919
01:40:38.600 --> 01:40:39.439
<v Speaker 1>All that money.

1920
01:40:41.039 --> 01:40:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Terriable donations from their people, and they don't have to

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01:40:43.840 --> 01:40:44.680
<v Speaker 2>explain themselves.

1922
01:40:50.159 --> 01:40:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Pretty bad. So yeah, I think they're flexing all kinds.

1923
01:40:55.359 --> 01:41:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I think these nWo people, all these people that you know,

1924
01:41:00.600 --> 01:41:03.680
<v Speaker 2>are obviously hooked together. I think right now they're at

1925
01:41:03.720 --> 01:41:05.800
<v Speaker 2>this big poker game and they're all kind of putting

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01:41:06.079 --> 01:41:09.039
<v Speaker 2>their cards on the table, like somebody called it, And

1927
01:41:09.119 --> 01:41:11.520
<v Speaker 2>it's getting close to that because they're doing some weird stuff.

1928
01:41:12.000 --> 01:41:17.159
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, let's see, Oh Kevin Newso, yeah,

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01:41:17.399 --> 01:41:19.079
<v Speaker 2>Tim and the Nazis, he's gonna go find that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good that's a good one. It's wild and

1931
01:41:23.279 --> 01:41:23.800
<v Speaker 1>that's weird.

1932
01:41:23.880 --> 01:41:27.079
<v Speaker 2>Did you see did you see the best Friends Society

1933
01:41:27.119 --> 01:41:29.520
<v Speaker 2>thing for the hym Ones that they were talking about.

1934
01:41:29.439 --> 01:41:29.960
<v Speaker 3>In the chat?

1935
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Desert Rain. Yeah, she's she's she's very now on

1936
01:41:33.840 --> 01:41:36.159
<v Speaker 6>some unique Mormon stuff there herself.

1937
01:41:35.840 --> 01:41:37.640
<v Speaker 1>And awesome background.

1938
01:41:39.880 --> 01:41:42.039
<v Speaker 2>We should check that out because that's the part where

1939
01:41:42.359 --> 01:41:45.479
<v Speaker 2>the other girl, the chill or Queen, postulated that not

1940
01:41:45.800 --> 01:41:48.239
<v Speaker 2>just like I postulate it's the elites of the LDS,

1941
01:41:48.399 --> 01:41:51.520
<v Speaker 2>not the LDS, but she said that there was like

1942
01:41:51.880 --> 01:41:55.199
<v Speaker 2>a Satanic order inside of it. So we very well

1943
01:41:55.439 --> 01:41:57.600
<v Speaker 2>maybe talk about the same thing. You know, a lot

1944
01:41:57.600 --> 01:42:01.000
<v Speaker 2>of people say Sidney Rigden came out there like his

1945
01:42:01.319 --> 01:42:04.399
<v Speaker 2>people and started like more of a nefarious one.

1946
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<v Speaker 6>So I don't know, No, for sure, there's probably a

1947
01:42:08.560 --> 01:42:09.920
<v Speaker 6>lot to be said that. And the Hamlins are still

1948
01:42:09.960 --> 01:42:12.760
<v Speaker 6>down there in Canab. I've looked at the Hamblin's residing

1949
01:42:12.800 --> 01:42:14.840
<v Speaker 6>in around canob there and there's Hamblin's down there.

1950
01:42:15.760 --> 01:42:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, cannab Is and it's in the middle of ocean.

1951
01:42:18.199 --> 01:42:18.479
<v Speaker 3>True.

1952
01:42:19.079 --> 01:42:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like a big desert patch. Like I don't

1953
01:42:22.960 --> 01:42:24.800
<v Speaker 2>think you'd want to stay there unless you had a reason.

1954
01:42:26.239 --> 01:42:28.520
<v Speaker 2>David Kennedy is one I need to take a deep

1955
01:42:28.600 --> 01:42:30.880
<v Speaker 2>dive on because of Justin's work. We were talking about

1956
01:42:30.960 --> 01:42:34.720
<v Speaker 2>him possibly being the connector between a lot of these.

1957
01:42:35.039 --> 01:42:38.199
<v Speaker 6>Key David, is this that Mormon fell out of Chicago?

1958
01:42:39.039 --> 01:42:41.640
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember where he's from, but I know me

1959
01:42:41.760 --> 01:42:44.680
<v Speaker 2>and Justin were talking about possible connects, and I've got

1960
01:42:44.720 --> 01:42:47.680
<v Speaker 2>a deep dive that I begged him to come back,

1961
01:42:47.880 --> 01:42:49.159
<v Speaker 2>but he's he's not.

1962
01:42:50.960 --> 01:42:53.479
<v Speaker 1>But miss miss Justin. He's great researcher.

1963
01:42:53.560 --> 01:42:56.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah for real, did amazing work on the show.

1964
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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

1965
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<v Speaker 6>David M. Kennedy, Yes nine, the five to nineteen ninety six. Yeah, yeah,

1966
01:43:03.279 --> 01:43:05.640
<v Speaker 6>I know who you're talking about. He's an interesting character, isn't.

1967
01:43:05.399 --> 01:43:10.640
<v Speaker 2>He very very He laid out some places that connected

1968
01:43:10.680 --> 01:43:13.439
<v Speaker 2>to other places that he didn't know mine. We talked

1969
01:43:13.760 --> 01:43:16.439
<v Speaker 2>one day about the connections and we were like, oh,

1970
01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:17.840
<v Speaker 2>maybe this is what.

1971
01:43:17.960 --> 01:43:20.520
<v Speaker 1>We've been looking for. So I was hoping, like I

1972
01:43:20.600 --> 01:43:23.720
<v Speaker 1>said that I waited because I didn't. He said, just

1973
01:43:23.800 --> 01:43:27.439
<v Speaker 1>go ahead. So yeah, he's not he's not interested. So

1974
01:43:28.960 --> 01:43:33.720
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately he's great, busy with kids and stuff. I'm sure

1975
01:43:33.960 --> 01:43:39.319
<v Speaker 1>I get it happens, but yeah, but yeah, this was

1976
01:43:39.399 --> 01:43:41.680
<v Speaker 1>fun and I learned a bunch. I had no idea.

1977
01:43:42.279 --> 01:43:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, at the end of this book, I'll

1978
01:43:44.600 --> 01:43:47.600
<v Speaker 2>see if anything changes. But Nemesis by Peter Evans was

1979
01:43:47.680 --> 01:43:52.000
<v Speaker 2>one of them. The memoirs book from Jackie herself and

1980
01:43:52.680 --> 01:43:56.720
<v Speaker 2>then online. Uh, there's a lot, but most of it

1981
01:43:56.920 --> 01:43:59.800
<v Speaker 2>circulates around how her and her sister treated each other.

1982
01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:03.920
<v Speaker 2>And you look into dark Jackie or Jackie secrets just

1983
01:44:04.039 --> 01:44:06.039
<v Speaker 2>being a drunk and her sister fighting with her. You

1984
01:44:06.119 --> 01:44:08.479
<v Speaker 2>got to be on there forever trying to go through

1985
01:44:08.520 --> 01:44:10.079
<v Speaker 2>all this stuff because that's all they want to say.

1986
01:44:10.199 --> 01:44:13.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh my gosh, but there's a lot more

1987
01:44:13.800 --> 01:44:15.960
<v Speaker 2>than that with some of these societies she belongs to.

1988
01:44:16.439 --> 01:44:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of sold that JFK. Junior was Onassis's kid, so.

1989
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<v Speaker 6>I'm totally sold. Yeah, yeah, I just popped a link

1990
01:44:28.439 --> 01:44:31.079
<v Speaker 6>for that auto on Bolshwing, the newsom Nazi that turned

1991
01:44:31.119 --> 01:44:33.920
<v Speaker 6>Mormon to save his save his ass when he already

1992
01:44:33.960 --> 01:44:36.000
<v Speaker 6>had all the political weight you can. You can imagine

1993
01:44:36.000 --> 01:44:39.880
<v Speaker 6>at that point, c I A Getty's NEWSMS. He's like, no, no, no,

1994
01:44:39.960 --> 01:44:41.880
<v Speaker 6>I'm Mormon, though, Now that's really going to save me.

1995
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<v Speaker 1>I'm Mormon. Don't worry about it. I'm Mormon. Well, I

1996
01:44:47.199 --> 01:44:49.560
<v Speaker 1>guess it didn't, did it. Didn't he get shipped out?

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<v Speaker 6>I think he died in the mix of it. Yeah,

1998
01:44:53.920 --> 01:44:56.880
<v Speaker 6>I remember correctly. Remember he was he was an elderly

1999
01:44:56.920 --> 01:44:58.359
<v Speaker 6>fello at the time, obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>So right right. They probably were like, just take care

2001
01:45:00.960 --> 01:45:03.479
<v Speaker 1>of that, like one extra sleeping pill.

2002
01:45:03.520 --> 01:45:09.000
<v Speaker 6>It's fine, Sea.

2003
01:45:11.159 --> 01:45:15.199
<v Speaker 1>They really love like all the things. It's it's been

2004
01:45:15.279 --> 01:45:16.199
<v Speaker 1>quite eye opening.

2005
01:45:17.079 --> 01:45:20.359
<v Speaker 2>It's hard because before I did podcasting, I was just

2006
01:45:20.520 --> 01:45:23.880
<v Speaker 2>like this really like I love America person, and now

2007
01:45:23.920 --> 01:45:26.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, I don't know what to think anymore.

2008
01:45:26.560 --> 01:45:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Like it's sad because you you know, you grew up

2009
01:45:29.920 --> 01:45:32.039
<v Speaker 2>with certain things and you think certain things and then

2010
01:45:32.439 --> 01:45:35.359
<v Speaker 2>you learn the truth and it's yeah.

2011
01:45:35.399 --> 01:45:42.079
<v Speaker 1>Facts are stranger than fiction. So definitely sadly, sadly sadly yes,

2012
01:45:42.640 --> 01:45:46.680
<v Speaker 1>yea yeap, oh. The Mormons are always there? Why are

2013
01:45:46.760 --> 01:45:50.079
<v Speaker 1>they always just right there? Like should this book editor

2014
01:45:50.119 --> 01:45:50.640
<v Speaker 1>thing through me?

2015
01:45:50.720 --> 01:45:53.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm like who the hell is this guy? And then

2016
01:45:53.079 --> 01:45:55.479
<v Speaker 2>to find out he was actually in Kennedy's you know

2017
01:45:55.760 --> 01:45:56.680
<v Speaker 2>court at the time.

2018
01:45:56.840 --> 01:46:00.319
<v Speaker 1>Like, basically it was weird. I don't know. I got

2019
01:46:00.359 --> 01:46:03.239
<v Speaker 1>a deep dive him more. Yeah, weird, weird stuff.

2020
01:46:04.840 --> 01:46:08.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, good job. Everybody chat. Seek to enjoy it. I

2021
01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:10.640
<v Speaker 3>definitely did. It was all news to me.

2022
01:46:10.800 --> 01:46:11.079
<v Speaker 2>I did.

2023
01:46:11.560 --> 01:46:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, thank you you guys.

2024
01:46:13.199 --> 01:46:14.600
<v Speaker 3>It's got information a lot of good.

2025
01:46:14.520 --> 01:46:16.920
<v Speaker 6>List for sure. Thank you, Heidi. Great stuff. As always.

2026
01:46:16.960 --> 01:46:18.800
<v Speaker 6>I love talking Mormon stuff here with y'all.

2027
01:46:19.640 --> 01:46:21.439
<v Speaker 1>I love talking to you guys, love being part of

2028
01:46:21.439 --> 01:46:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the occult rejects. I like how you guys are real.

2029
01:46:25.159 --> 01:46:29.039
<v Speaker 1>It's awesome, and I love that. I love podcasting in general.

2030
01:46:29.279 --> 01:46:30.560
<v Speaker 1>So thank you for having me.

2031
01:46:30.760 --> 01:46:33.279
<v Speaker 4>Of course, of course, Uh yeah, I'll wrap it up

2032
01:46:33.319 --> 01:46:36.239
<v Speaker 4>real quick. Uh, Lisa, thank you very much for joining us.

2033
01:46:36.319 --> 01:46:38.840
<v Speaker 4>I appreciate it. Uh anything you want to plug or

2034
01:46:38.880 --> 01:46:40.800
<v Speaker 4>anything for yourself or whatever.

2035
01:46:41.119 --> 01:46:42.920
<v Speaker 8>No, just very much enjoyed the chat.

2036
01:46:43.079 --> 01:46:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Heidi.

2037
01:46:43.520 --> 01:46:47.119
<v Speaker 5>You always bring so much information and very well researched

2038
01:46:47.159 --> 01:46:51.520
<v Speaker 5>and sourced, and not only bring it and conversated and

2039
01:46:51.640 --> 01:46:54.720
<v Speaker 5>related to where everybody like picks it up and you're

2040
01:46:54.760 --> 01:46:55.600
<v Speaker 5>able to absorb it.

2041
01:46:55.680 --> 01:46:56.079
<v Speaker 8>So thank you.

2042
01:46:56.159 --> 01:46:58.840
<v Speaker 5>For that, and JJ of course just you're always fire anyway,

2043
01:46:58.960 --> 01:47:01.479
<v Speaker 5>so thank you so much for that. Thank you Nick

2044
01:47:01.520 --> 01:47:03.640
<v Speaker 5>for inviting me to come on. I really enjoyed it.

2045
01:47:03.680 --> 01:47:05.119
<v Speaker 5>But the only thing you want to plug is the

2046
01:47:05.239 --> 01:47:09.960
<v Speaker 5>Occult Research Institute dot org even put something up here recently,

2047
01:47:12.439 --> 01:47:14.079
<v Speaker 5>so yeah, that was it. Just check us out there

2048
01:47:14.119 --> 01:47:15.760
<v Speaker 5>on Occult Research Insto dot org.

2049
01:47:16.359 --> 01:47:18.239
<v Speaker 4>Thank you, thank you for minding me. I I gotta

2050
01:47:18.279 --> 01:47:22.479
<v Speaker 4>post that actually again. Uh and JJ Vance not the

2051
01:47:22.520 --> 01:47:25.439
<v Speaker 4>vice president. Please let everybody know where they can find

2052
01:47:25.439 --> 01:47:26.399
<v Speaker 4>your stuff again real.

2053
01:47:26.399 --> 01:47:30.399
<v Speaker 6>Quick, nixt ser I appreciate the invice always JJ Vance

2054
01:47:30.680 --> 01:47:34.239
<v Speaker 6>not the vice President. Host of Operations GCD coming up

2055
01:47:34.279 --> 01:47:37.840
<v Speaker 6>here on Wednesday night in our next operation GCD Live

2056
01:47:38.359 --> 01:47:41.279
<v Speaker 6>the Occult and Oresto teric review of the film the

2057
01:47:41.399 --> 01:47:46.079
<v Speaker 6>nineteen eighty six cinematic masterpiece film The Golden Child with

2058
01:47:46.439 --> 01:47:48.319
<v Speaker 6>Nick and Jen the Ninja. So that'll be a good one.

2059
01:47:48.359 --> 01:47:51.159
<v Speaker 6>But Lisa always always great having a conversation with here

2060
01:47:51.199 --> 01:47:53.199
<v Speaker 6>on the Occult Rejects and Heidi. I always enjoy the

2061
01:47:53.840 --> 01:47:58.399
<v Speaker 6>Mormon talking and I definitely appreciate the Bouvia discovery because

2062
01:47:58.479 --> 01:48:01.520
<v Speaker 6>this French side of the society is when I'm certainly

2063
01:48:01.560 --> 01:48:03.760
<v Speaker 6>trying to understand. And the more I look at the

2064
01:48:03.800 --> 01:48:07.239
<v Speaker 6>JFKSE situation, the more I see the society between Oswald

2065
01:48:07.279 --> 01:48:10.600
<v Speaker 6>and now even Kennedy's wife, is a society family for

2066
01:48:11.439 --> 01:48:13.520
<v Speaker 6>what is what is going on with these things. But

2067
01:48:14.000 --> 01:48:15.760
<v Speaker 6>and I don't think it's a society that makes the

2068
01:48:15.840 --> 01:48:18.479
<v Speaker 6>decisions and everything, but it is. The reason we see

2069
01:48:18.520 --> 01:48:21.159
<v Speaker 6>these these families involved is because it is these families

2070
01:48:21.199 --> 01:48:24.760
<v Speaker 6>in these this overarching the family kind of dispute, if

2071
01:48:24.800 --> 01:48:26.920
<v Speaker 6>you will. But you know, they may not always be

2072
01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:29.399
<v Speaker 6>making the decisions, but it's always people within these families

2073
01:48:29.439 --> 01:48:32.319
<v Speaker 6>and members of the society that tend to get involved

2074
01:48:32.359 --> 01:48:34.720
<v Speaker 6>in these things, especially when you're talking to American conspiracies

2075
01:48:34.760 --> 01:48:38.680
<v Speaker 6>in the American president because not every American president is

2076
01:48:38.720 --> 01:48:41.600
<v Speaker 6>a Freemason, but every American president is a member of

2077
01:48:41.640 --> 01:48:46.079
<v Speaker 6>the Society of Cincinnati with the with the asterisks that

2078
01:48:46.119 --> 01:48:49.159
<v Speaker 6>I've received emails saying Clinton and Obama or not have

2079
01:48:49.319 --> 01:48:52.680
<v Speaker 6>not been invited. But look, I don't affirm these people

2080
01:48:52.720 --> 01:48:55.159
<v Speaker 6>are members that are sending me these emails. I cannot

2081
01:48:55.199 --> 01:48:58.119
<v Speaker 6>confirm these these assertions that they're making about these these things.

2082
01:48:58.199 --> 01:49:01.079
<v Speaker 6>But with the exception of those two, every other US

2083
01:49:01.279 --> 01:49:04.920
<v Speaker 6>residence has been a member of Cincinnati.

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01:49:05.479 --> 01:49:06.159
<v Speaker 3>Something else with that.

2085
01:49:07.039 --> 01:49:10.079
<v Speaker 4>Oh you know what, real quick before people saw dropping

2086
01:49:10.079 --> 01:49:12.199
<v Speaker 4>off because we're wrapping up, I'm not gonna forgeret about yah, Heidi,

2087
01:49:12.840 --> 01:49:15.159
<v Speaker 4>but real quick, I do want to mention Monday night.

2088
01:49:15.159 --> 01:49:16.600
<v Speaker 4>I think we're gonna go live for this one.

2089
01:49:17.680 --> 01:49:18.560
<v Speaker 3>We are going to have on.

2090
01:49:18.720 --> 01:49:21.079
<v Speaker 4>I think everybody here pretty much. I think Lisa, Lisa

2091
01:49:21.119 --> 01:49:24.840
<v Speaker 4>can make it. She's been invited. We have an we

2092
01:49:24.960 --> 01:49:29.640
<v Speaker 4>have an Anne Rice Vampire Cult X. An Rice Vampire

2093
01:49:29.720 --> 01:49:35.000
<v Speaker 4>Cult member coming on. Sounds very just in case. Yeah, uh,

2094
01:49:35.319 --> 01:49:39.399
<v Speaker 4>and and Rice was an interview with the vampire. So

2095
01:49:39.680 --> 01:49:41.760
<v Speaker 4>we're gonna, you know, somebody who was in an Ann

2096
01:49:41.840 --> 01:49:44.720
<v Speaker 4>Rice Vampire Cults will be coming on and telling her story.

2097
01:49:44.840 --> 01:49:46.800
<v Speaker 4>So if you want to check out that wild and

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01:49:46.920 --> 01:49:52.000
<v Speaker 4>interesting live, I think Monday night all right, and then Heidi,

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<v Speaker 4>please let everybody know awesome. I do want to say

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<v Speaker 4>one last thing I forgot.

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to just tell everybody go look at

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<v Speaker 2>the poem called the Golden Fleet by Jackie Kennedy. She

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<v Speaker 2>talks about JFK and the Golden Fleece and him chasing

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<v Speaker 2>the Golden Fleece.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very occultic.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, Lisa immediately knew I love it, yep, And

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<v Speaker 2>so I think she knew what he was up to,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think she, you know, possibly could have been

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<v Speaker 2>irritated with I don't know, I don't know, but for.

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<v Speaker 1>Her to write it down, we know it's very occultic

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<v Speaker 1>in nature.

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<v Speaker 2>So check that out, you guys. Check out everybody's work

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<v Speaker 2>on here. Everybody's great. Everybody that works with Nick is

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<v Speaker 2>super amazing with their research, and I just really love

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<v Speaker 2>being on here.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. I will see you guys Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you guys for coming and joining and for the

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<v Speaker 1>awesome talk. Love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Hellyeah, thank you very much, thank you for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>And that is the end of another recall rejection and

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<v Speaker 4>thank you to everybody in the chat.

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<v Speaker 3>That is what's up. I had a blast today and

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<v Speaker 3>until the next one, everybody be well later.