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today's episode. Disclaimer. The views and opinions expressed in this

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podcast are those of the guests and do not necessarily

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reflect the views or positions of this show, its host,

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or any of the companies they represent. Now today on

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the show, we welcome back explorer and Ancient Mysteries expert

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Matt Lacroix. And Matt has been up to a lot

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of things since last time he was on the show.

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He's found some new discoveries about atlantis, our origins, and

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the warnings for humanity that he has discovered in his travels.

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Let's dive in. I'd like to welcome back to the

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show returning champion Matt Lacroix.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Matt, Hey, Alex has strike you back. This is

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our third show. I think right over the list of

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ears or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, this is our third show. Brother, this is

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I always love talking to you, man. You always have

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some new cool stuff to talk about. You are now

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an international man of mystery. You're part Indiana Jones, part

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James Bond, running around the world filming for your new

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documentary and hopefully a documentary series afterwards. There's a lot

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of cool stuff that you got going on, and you've

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made a lot of cool discoveries, so we're going to

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just kind of jump into it. Man, you told me

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a little bit that that you've had some new discoveries

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in regards to Atlantis and a new angle on Atlantis.

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Can you kind of talk a little bit about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, there's some new research that I've been doing

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that's really exciting, and it revolves into an angle of

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Atlantis that is very new. It's very new, but it's

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new and it's important because it changes this whole dialogue.

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So let me just a lay please, that narrative down

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and so people understand, because people always love talking about

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Atlantis and love all of this. So the problem here

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is that we have these two worlds that exist. The

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first world is the scholar world, in the academic world,

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in which they look at all of the stories of

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Atlantis based purely around Plato and around the stories of

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Solon and Socrates, and that for them, they look at

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it and they say, well, look, there's no there's no

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definitive information relating to specifics in Egypt. Of those events

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other than maybe it's loosely based on Solon's visit to Egypt,

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which they admit, right, So typically, as far as scholars

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are willing to admit, is that Solon did go to Egypt,

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you know, somewhere around two thousand years ago, and he

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did meet up with these different these different places and

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got information. But they don't want to go any further

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than the rest of it is based on that idea

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of going to Egypt, and then the rest is an allegory.

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So that's where that's one camp that unfortunately, that's where

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we live in that world, is that Plato made up

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the entire store of Atlantis based on allegorical Greek stories

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and that they was Egypt part was just sort of

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like a fun addition to create the story in the atmosphere. Well,

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then you have the entire other camp and world of

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people that study Plato's work, you know, to Maaeis and

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Critias and others, and they say Atlantis is completely real

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and it's all based on truth and blah blah blah,

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and those worlds are really divided. They're really divided by

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not a lot that tethers them together. Now that's where

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I think is so exciting about Plutarch. And now, of

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course there's also Diodorus for people who don't know, that's

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another really good source for discussing Atlantis as well. But

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the part in particular that's the most important, and these

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are Greek philosophers and historians, but the part that's the

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most important is regarding Blutar. Now, if anybody wants to

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go down a really cool rabbit hole, this is I

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think very new and something that needs to be flushed

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out and maybe talked about a lot by a lot

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more people. Like for instance, I would love to get

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Randall Carlson in this discussion because he's the one of

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the like the premiere Atlantean Platonian expert like on Plato's

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work and everything, right, So I'm actually surprised that Randall

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hasn't talked about this more, but I want to. I

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would love to get a dialogue going with him and

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ask him his opinions, because here's the problem. Plato's work

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goes into Atlantis in great detail, but it doesn't go

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into a lot of details about the Egyptian visit, and

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that's why a lot of academics don't jump on it

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as being a literal truth because it's so vague. It's like, oh,

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he met up with a some some priest in Egypt

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and then told him this huge story and like, okay,

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that doesn't no, no, no, let's but let's dial it in

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for a minute. Imagine the entire basis of the Atlantean

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story for scholars being based on that idea that it's

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an allegory by Plato. But what if you bring some

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meat and some evidence to the story to maybe shift

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the entire narrative to not whether or not it actually

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existed that story and those events, but how much of

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it was real. And that's the part that blurs the

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lines and gets really interesting because I basically, let me

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give you some background, is that what Plutarch brings that

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Plato doesn't in several bodies of his work. So he's

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got a body called the Life of Solon, and then

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he's got another body that talks about ancient Egypt and

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a whole set of chapters of it. So, for those

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who don't know, Plutarch is very interesting figure in history.

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So he is an historian and a philosopher from Greece.

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amongst obscurity and amongst things that a lot of people

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are not really considering is real. And it's very strange

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to me because Plutarch may very well have been the

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last Westerner or least person of highly educated historian and

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philosopher to ever visit Egypt before it was essentially destroyed

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by groups like the Romans and others, and a lot

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of those temples were taken apart and dismantled and lost.

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sol came and visited in the whole story that we

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know of in the Tumaeis and Critias. So Plutarch comes

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hundreds of years later, and he comes and visits Atlantis

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right before the Romans and others were starting to invade Egypt,

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and so he came in and he visits all kinds

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of ancient temples locations throughout Egypt. He is like an

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adventure and explorer, and he actually has this really rare

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view and information regarding the very end of the dynasties

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of the Egyptians. So what he says is fascinating. I

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actually have quote too that I will I will also read,

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because I actually just came across some of this information

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recently during some of my studies. But basically what he

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he talks about how the story of Solon but from

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a whole different angle from actually meeting very specific temple priests,

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and so instead of being an allegorical, mysterious story that

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then wasn't real, from that point on, when we go

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didn't have before. And he meets with two elder priests,

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and they're described as being the last line of ancient

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priests that knew very detailed knowledge of ancient loss, civilization, knowledge,

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timelines and information from so long before that it actually

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wasn't really known by that many people any longer. And

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there was a great meeting held in says at a

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temple called the Temple of Neith. Now Neith is the

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Egyptian version of what we think of as Athena in

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ancient Greece. And in this temple there was a great

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meeting by Solon, and this is where for those are No,

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about him going there later and then finding out other

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aspects of the story. So that's what ended up happening,

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is that he goes and meets with the same the

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same temple and assumingly like the whole line that's still

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knew all of that knowledge and information before it was destroyed,

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and he ended up finding out details that essentially Plato

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didn't have or didn't put in his stories. Maybe right

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and mentor taught him the whole story. His name was Socrates.

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state and poisoned and murdered.

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Speaker 2: And so that really scared Plato, and he didn't I

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think he was very careful in what he included. So

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he just didn't know it. And it was information that

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that Plutarch gives us the names, the actual names of

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the two temple priests that Solon meets up with. Okay,

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and this is not really talked about because again, now

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real world. And I think it's very scary for academics

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and scholars to go in even and even entertain this

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idea that these things are true, because it then blurs

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that line where you say, well, if these temple priests

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then how much of that is the whole thing real?

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with a temple priest from says who's from that temple?

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is curious to look into that figure. Now, the other

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one that's never talked about and I've never actually even

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heard and mentioned before is very bizarre. The other figure

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that he runs into is known as Synophis of Heliopolis.

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to the south, and they're on the delta of seas,

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and they meets with both of these temple priests. Well,

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it's it's absolutely fascinating. He then goes on to write

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down one of the descriptions that's left in the Temple

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of Neath, and at says and he records it and

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on a podcast, but I want to bring back something

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ancient that I think has somewhat been forgotten and lost

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that needs to be mentioned again. And it's a quote

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that comes from the Temple of Neath, and it's very beautiful. Again, Remember,

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the Temple of is considered a fake, not a real place.

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and a real set of events. So now we're going

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and crossing those lines. And it says in the temple,

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inscribed in the walls, it says, I am all that

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has been, is and shall be. No mortal has lifted

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my veil, And that's from It's beautiful, but that's what's

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from inside that temple that's not supposed to be a

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real temple, and that now we're so we're getting into

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literalism and a real place where real events transpired. And

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ancient Egypt during that time period, during that time period

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of what they were doing, and it's described as the

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Temple of Sas has the entire story of Atlantis and

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ancient Greece inside it, and that they read and that's

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where the whole story comes from. But essentially what we're doing, Alex,

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it gives us a potential timeline, in an entirely new

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view and understanding into that time period in history and

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the entire story of Atlantis.

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that this is an actual, real story.

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the walls and that he saw and ascribed them, and

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then we know all the details about about what Solon

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was told by those priests about you know you, Solon,

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he says, and I'm paraphrasing, remember one disaster, one flood,

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but there have been many, mostly of water and fire,

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and talks about the cyclical nature of destruction throughout our

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history and how civilizations rise and fall. That's what the

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temple priests are protecting, and that in that temple, that's

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what their whole, their whole, their whole point of being is.

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Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the Book The Dweller of Two Planets?

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Speaker 2: No? Not yet.

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Speaker 1: The Book of the Dweller of Two Planets is a

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channeled work from the late eighteen hundreds of some kid

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in the middle of the country, you know, second grade

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education work the fields, all of a sudden starts writing

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a massive channeled book about things that he would never

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ever be exposed to and talking about Atlantis through Felos

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the Tibetan And it's actually really fascinating how it connects

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to what we're talking about, because he's giving details in

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this channeled work about things that he just would have

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never had access to. There was no internet, there was

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no TV, there was nothing, and an uneducated boy started

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to just write. And this book is a fairly large,

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very dense book. You'd enjoy, You enjoy man, you love

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dense books. But that's a book. If you haven't read it,

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it's something that you should probably look into. It's called

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The Dweller of Two Planets because it does reinforce a

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lot of Plato's story but gives tremendous amount of details

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of the fall of of like the the years of

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the fall of Atlantis. What is your you know, what

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is your vibe about Atlantis in your personal opinion? Do

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you know what do you think actually happened there? You know,

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from your own studies, from your own thing. I mean,

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because it's such a fantastical idea that there was an

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advanced civilization before us, and I believe it. It makes

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makes all the sense in the world to me, that

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were cyclical and all that stuff. But what's your vibe

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on it?

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Speaker 2: So that's actually the entire I wouldn't say purpose, but

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the overall goal of what we did with the filming

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of the documentary and then investigating all these places around

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the world and following the same symbols, the same stonework,

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the same things that are connecting. That was the crusade

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that you know, I'm on still and we that we

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have done a lot of what we wanted to accomplish.

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But in that search, what was unequivocal, what we saw

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that was undeniable was that there was a global connection.

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And I think that's the most important thing to get

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across here is that, you know, we saw the same symbols,

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same knowledge, and in Turkey and Von Turkey in Stone

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and then the same stone works, same symbols in Peru,

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and then in Bolivia, Bolivia, and then in Cambodia, and

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then it goes on and on, and it's it's and

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like for instance, quebecle Tepping we could talk about on

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one of the pillars that never gets discussed, that also

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has connections to Egypt and then connections back to Bolivia.

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of this civilization that seems to have reached incredible heights.

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where is it? Well, it may be right in front

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of our eyes. And maybe the remnants of whatever could

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survive of some global civilization, and that may have been

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what was described by them in that not necessarily referring

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to the specific city that Plato was talking about with

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circular rings maybe up in the Azores. What we're talking

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about is a civilization and a city, So it's it's

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describing locations of subcontinents that were maybe like the heart

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of something, but the actual place itself may have represented

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more of a global type of look. And that that's

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really a very serious area that we're considering and looking into,

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is whether or not this global civilization that we're seeing

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emerge out of these disasters, and a new timeline that

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I'm helping for it. It's like a fifty thousand year timeline,

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but that what we're looking at is whether or not

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that emergence of that around the world is atlantis. And

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that's the that's the hardest thing to wrap our heads around,

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because the timeline that I'm putting forth would give plenty

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of time for something like that to develop, and that's important.

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Speaker 1: What's your timeline? What's the time?

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Speaker 2: Well, my timeline is a very detailed timeline, incorporating everything

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from starlinements in ancient Egypt and alignments of the sphinx

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all the way through processional understandings. Two in utilizing geodesy,

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which is basically the alignments of where things were with

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cardinal points, but also more importantly using events like ancient

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writings talking about catastrophes lining them up with ice cores

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from either Greenland or Antarctica, but also known geomatic magnetic

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excursion events like the atoms event from forty one thousand

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years ago because of really cool data from volcanoes and

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hoary trees out of New Zealand that fell and were

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basically preserved. We're getting a snapshot now at a world

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in which there are these cyclical events or disasters that

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seem to occur. Now, the question is how often are

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those Is that is that cycle? How often do they

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do they come? Is it based on just the ice

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age cycles like we see, which seems to be like

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every one hundred thousand years or something, or are there

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cycles within cycles so that you start to blow your mind.

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You're like, Okay, so there's like this big cycle for

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ice age, but ice ages, but then there's also cycles

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for like corona mass ejections from the sun, so sun

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cycles and all these things, and that's where I've been

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putting together this complex timeline that's incorporating all of this,

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that includes what I think is the emergence of what

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we think of as Atlantis.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: And it basically follows the story of us US having

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an entire chapter or chapters in which they were resets

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and they were wiped out.

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Speaker 1: So when did you in your timeline, when do you

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think Atlantis started to come up as a as a civilization.

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Speaker 2: I like some of the information garnered from Edgar Casey

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and you brought you brought up channeling. I think Edgar

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Casey is the father of all of that. I think

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everybody would agree. I think there's some really good information

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glean from that, And whether or not it doesn't exactly fit,

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it's pretty close. So it's pretty close to what I'm

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looking at, and that variability is relatively minor because I'm

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looking at the emergence of Atlantis as something something around,

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you know, beyond twenty thousand years ago. Now, if I

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was to put some kind of a date on that,

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to more more appropriately label that, I would say Atlantis

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you know, we know is destroyed when right, because that

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with data is very firmly established from from Egypt and

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sol On in Plato that Atlantis was destroyed eleven thousand,

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six hundred years ago. But when did it emerge?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: That's the million dollar question. And I believe that it emerged,

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you know, somewhere around between forty and twenty thousand years

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ago is where I'm is, is where I'm looking at

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with my information understanding, because we get some really interesting

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information out of Egypt, a concept called zep Tepe and

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the whole idea of looking at professional ages in Egypt.

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I used, using the Great Lawn of the great late

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John Anthony West, which was quite a pioneer in this

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whole field. In fact, some would suggest he was the

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father of starting all alternative research into ancient civilizations lost history.

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Speaker 1: Wow, let me ask you, Egypt keeps coming up anytime

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we talk about anything in the ancient world. Egypt seems

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to be this hub. What is your explanation or feeling

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of why Egypt is such a pivotal area of you know,

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has obviously has the Great Pyramid and the Pyramids of Giza,

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which are you know, there's nothing in the world like it.

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There are other versions of it, like in Mexico and

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Peru and so many other places in.

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Speaker 2: The greatest pyramids of the world.

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Speaker 1: But there, Yeah, But so there's something special about that area.

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What is your feeling about that?

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Speaker 2: Well, the first thing we know is there's some really

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aspect interesting aspects of what's called geodesesi. So if anyone

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hasn't heard of geodesy, it's basically looking at cardinal alignments,

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positions on the earth, different aspects that may be very

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important star alignments for why someone would want to build

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in a specific spot. So it's called geodesy. And so

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you find out that Egypt is found on what's called

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the thirtieth parallel. Now that area is we also have

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the fortieth parallel above it, and they seem to have

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these relationships between why civilizations want to build there. Now. Egypt, though,

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it is really interesting because it's in the center of

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the world in terms of land mass, so if you

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were to draw a center, it's right in the very center,

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and it seems to have a very interesting relationship between

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its location and the Nile River as being a very

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important symbolic aspect of not only of the constellation of

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Orion that's embodied into the river itself as like a

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river of the cosmos, but like a star map, so

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it's like above and below. So the law of correspondence

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is why I think it's also another reason why they've

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built there is that if you were to take the

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stars above with the Orion's belt and you look into

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the whole connection with astrology, even like constellations nearby like

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Eradonus with ancient Mesopotamia next to with Aridu, there may

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be a direct relationship between these ancient cultures mirroring and

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creating a synergy between the sky and the earth, and

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that the Egypt may be that synergy that represents Orian itself,

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which is incredibly important. And we know that there is

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already a connection when we look at the King's chamber,

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the masculine energy of Egypt, that sacred archetype that's very

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important to understand, the archetype of divine masculine and divine feminine.

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But we know that the divine masculine points towards Orion, right,

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and then we know that the feminine the queen's chamber

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as it's called points towards Sirius, which is considered a

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feminine and starve. So it's just very interesting how this

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idea that there's no randomness to it and that it's

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very specific for those locations on the earth, which then

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blows your mind to think how these ancient cultures could

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have known those things and did those things the way

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they did. I don't think we should ever underestimate what

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the what their knowledge was and understanding. I think in

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many ways we maybe like children compared to them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because everyone just looks at Oh, they don't have iPhones,

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so obviously they're not advanced. But it says that we're

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looking at the in the past with our lens of today,

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but they could have had technologies that were so far

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beyond what we understood and.

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Speaker 2: Love of consciousness, so not just technology, but levels of

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consciousness and energy and the abilities that they may have

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had that we are like shadows of our former self basically.

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Speaker 1: And when you're saying also consciousness to be able to

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achieve or to be able to access the information to

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create advanced technologies in advance, you know that kind of stuff.

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You need to have higher level of consciousness to be aware,

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to be able to even download this information or get

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access to it, because I always say, like, if if

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Alexander the Great had a machine gun, well it would

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have been over much quicker than it was, but that

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at that time their consciousness was so low that they

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really shouldn't have been given access to that kind of

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information or an atomic bomb for that matter.

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Speaker 2: Even going that's true, it's like the gatekeepers to seem

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to be controlling the levels of what we can obtain

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based on what are what we've proven in terms of

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who we are, right, because if possibilities like you're not

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going to give You're not going to give Alexander the

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Greater gun a huge machine gun because what is he

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going to do with it?

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Speaker 1: You're right, right, right, Like if the Silver War, if

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the North and the South both had Adam bombs, what

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would have happened to us? Like they would have used them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, that's the question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's it's and it's that's the thing. So

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there is seems I always say to people, there is guardrails.

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There seems to be guardrails up on us, Like we're

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not going to destroy ourselves because that would ruin the game. Yes,

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that we're all would it would definitely ruin the game.

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So with all of the connections that you're finding across

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the world, what is your explanation of why there are

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these connections in societies and cultures that had nothing to

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do technically, had nothing to do with each other. So, like,

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obviously the biggest one is, you know, meso America and Egypt,

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Like they shouldn't have been able to connect with each

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other because according to the mainstream, we didn't see each

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other for you know, up until whatever the year was

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that Christopher Columbus sailed the Ocean blue, if you will,

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kind of thing. So what what is your reason? What

476
00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:53,880
do you think is the reasoning that all of these cultures,

477
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,079
not just those two cultures, but Cambodia and all these

478
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,279
other in Japan and all these other place China have

479
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,960
these pyramids and all these connections.

480
00:28:02,039 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 2: Again, it's that global connection. Again. I think there was

481
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,960
a dissentimination of information at a certain time, which is

482
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what I've been tracking and tracing to the Lake vond region,

483
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,279
which is where I believe that was lowered. That's something

484
00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:17,480
then spread out and I've been mapping and tracing their

485
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,160
path based on other locations in temples that are in

486
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,720
association with them, and you can see like a roadmap. Oh,

487
00:28:24,839 --> 00:28:27,960
so they went this far northwest, they went this far east,

488
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,559
you know, where were they going? And all of a

489
00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:33,359
sudden things pop up in other places. They It's like

490
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,640
they were in they were given very very powerful and

491
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,880
important knowledge and their responsibility was to then travel around

492
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,880
the world and create noal points of it in civilizations

493
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,160
and then move on and then just leave them behind

494
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,519
for a civilization to watch over and manage. And a

495
00:28:50,559 --> 00:28:53,720
lot of those civilizations that were managing them may not

496
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:56,960
have originally built them. And that's the most mysterious thing

497
00:28:57,039 --> 00:28:59,640
is that some of these may have just been the

498
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,720
remnts and ancestral remnants and echoes of far older and

499
00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:06,160
more ancient cultures and they're just still there living there,

500
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but it doesn't mean they had anything to do with them.

501
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And I think great examples of that is like are

502
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,720
like the Aztecs and others, and Maya and other you know,

503
00:29:13,759 --> 00:29:16,000
even like the Inca. A lot of people don't know

504
00:29:16,039 --> 00:29:18,720
that the Inca were only around less than four hundred years,

505
00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:21,519
but yet they're being credited with creating some of the

506
00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:25,559
greatest megalithic stone temples and structures that the world has

507
00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:29,079
ever seen. But that doesn't make sense because we know

508
00:29:29,119 --> 00:29:31,359
their capabilities were so limited, and that's what we see

509
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,160
a lot of places around the world with the dynastic

510
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:39,119
Egyptians and even cultures like the Romans had extreme limaltic limitations.

511
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,480
Like they reach a place like Ballbeck Lebanon, they were

512
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astounded by what they saw. They found blocks there that

513
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,640
were over you know, there were hundreds and hundreds of

514
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,599
thousands of pounds. It was like astounding to them, these massive,

515
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,319
multi ton stones that are still some of the largest

516
00:29:56,319 --> 00:29:59,640
in the world. And instead of moving them, they left

517
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,039
them all a half cut out of their quarries and

518
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,759
half worked, and they built just their own structures and

519
00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:09,720
colisseums right on top of them.

520
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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

521
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,200
and now back to the show.

522
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Speaker 2: And then they were given credit for building baub Beck

523
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,000
Levinon with the Temple of Jupiter, but we know that

524
00:30:24,039 --> 00:30:27,680
they never created the stones underneath and the structures, and

525
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:33,400
so that telltale sign we see all around the world.

526
00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:36,960
But the most fascinating thing alex is regarding it taking

527
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,039
it back to Atlantis, is that in each one of

528
00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:42,440
these examples, whether or not it's ancient Egypt, like in

529
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,039
the Aswan Quarry where they were taking out the largest

530
00:30:46,039 --> 00:30:50,440
obelisk ever ever made by far, or you go to

531
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the moai in Easter Island where they were in the

532
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,599
process of taking out the biggest moai by three times

533
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,000
they'd ever been done. It was just about to come

534
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,799
out of the host rock. Go all the way across

535
00:31:01,839 --> 00:31:05,720
the world to for instance, in China in the Yangshen Quarry,

536
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,519
they were about to move a block that was like

537
00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:10,119
one hundred tons biggest that the world has ever seen.

538
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,039
What happened in all those cases, every one of those examples,

539
00:31:14,279 --> 00:31:17,759
the work suddenly stopped. None of those things made it

540
00:31:17,759 --> 00:31:20,640
out of their hoststone, and then the civilization that was

541
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,559
building it just disappeared. We know that it means that

542
00:31:23,599 --> 00:31:26,920
they had reached the height of their sophistication before that happened,

543
00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:29,359
because they were the largest projects they had ever taken

544
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,119
on collectively. So that's really impressive and telling because it

545
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,119
means that whatever happened was sudden, and that they weren't

546
00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:37,839
able to do a lot to plan around it or

547
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,720
avoid it. And two that it completely stopped any capability

548
00:31:42,759 --> 00:31:45,480
of continuing anything in the future. And that's a pretty

549
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:49,200
mind blowing thing to consider, is that like our civilization,

550
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:51,480
imagine we were hit by the events that they were

551
00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:54,839
and we scrambled to try to protect whatever we can,

552
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,759
but all that remains, it's it, like, the only thing

553
00:31:57,799 --> 00:32:02,119
that remains is two things stonework and our churches and

554
00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:07,720
our capital buildings and such, and then some legacy of

555
00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:11,039
traditions and stories that get passed down by survivors. That's it.

556
00:32:11,599 --> 00:32:17,519
Everything else is gone, glass, metal, brick, everything else is gone, digital, everything, paper,

557
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,079
Everything we ever did is like wiped out, and the

558
00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:22,839
memory of that is gone. That may very well been

559
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,599
what it was like with Atlantis, whatever technologies, they will

560
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,119
figure it out. They seem very different than we had.

561
00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:33,519
They seem very energy based, very conscious based, and like

562
00:32:33,599 --> 00:32:36,720
you said, their entire civilization seem to be based on

563
00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:40,599
this world's civilization. From what they've built and the symbols

564
00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:43,079
they left behind, the knowledge they had. They seem to

565
00:32:43,119 --> 00:32:48,480
be scholars and masters and almost like magicians of energy

566
00:32:48,519 --> 00:32:55,359
and consciousness, whereas we are warmongers and violent and destructive

567
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and deceitful.

568
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean magicians, I mean we If you show

569
00:33:01,319 --> 00:33:05,160
this to a tribesman and take a picture of it

570
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,559
somewhere in Africa. Let's say that they've never seen one

571
00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:09,240
of these before, and you take a picture of them

572
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:12,920
and you show them the picture. We're magicians, so magic

573
00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:17,000
seems to be magical to the uninitiated in many ways.

574
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Speaker 2: And that's what you're talking about. The magic though if

575
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,720
what if one of those people then also somehow this

576
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,720
mind lifted like a stone off the ground.

577
00:33:24,839 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: Well, now we're in Jedi world, and that's fine, I

578
00:33:27,079 --> 00:33:31,200
love Jedi's no, but then we're in a whole other

579
00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:34,400
Yogic power is all that kind of stuff as well,

580
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:38,240
which is just another higher level of consciousness, which is

581
00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:44,599
which is pretty fascinating. So with Atlantis, let me say,

582
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,240
I'm losing my train of thought here. Well let me

583
00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:49,839
let me go back to Lake Vaughan. You mentioned Lake Vaughan.

584
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,400
What is Where is Lake Vaughan and what is the

585
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,400
significance of Lake von which in your documentary series a

586
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,559
documentary you are down there, You're dived everything. What is this?

587
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,279
Speaker 2: So in Eastern Turkey, it's part of the world that

588
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,319
nobody really knows about. And it's actually funny because a

589
00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:07,880
lot of we just did a tour there. Very successful

590
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,000
first tour. It was amazing and one of the things

591
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,039
we prided ourselves on is you can actually find real artifacts,

592
00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:16,880
and somebody did and subsequently it ended up in a museum,

593
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,239
so very exciting. But in eastern Turkey, in a place

594
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,280
that most of the world doesn't know about, are a

595
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,519
lot of new excavations, new discoveries, and then things that

596
00:34:25,559 --> 00:34:27,320
have been missed a little bit because of how they've

597
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:32,079
been categorized. That often gets overshadowed by things like quebecley Tepe,

598
00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:36,360
or Egypt, or Peru and Bolivia. It doesn't really get

599
00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:38,880
no it's not really talked about or known. But I

600
00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:42,760
consider it to be like round zero, an origin point.

601
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And so when I started doing and you remember two

602
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,679
years ago when I first did the show with you,

603
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,000
what I was talking about on there was the ancient

604
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,039
connection I had found back to sumer, back to the

605
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:56,960
old story of the Noah figure in Zaya Soudra, and

606
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,880
that whole connection to the ara At region that was

607
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:03,920
where a lot of things blossomed because of a discovery

608
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,760
known as the Babylonian Map of the World. And we've

609
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,320
talked about that, but I just bring it up. It's

610
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,599
because in the nineties there was a piece of that.

611
00:35:13,039 --> 00:35:16,119
It's an ancient map. It's an ancient tablet that basically

612
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,480
is the oldest map in the world in existence. It

613
00:35:18,519 --> 00:35:20,880
came out of Babylon and it has a depiction of

614
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,440
circles with triangles coming off it and then some writing.

615
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,639
And for a long time they didn't really understand what

616
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,639
it all meant because one of the pieces was broken

617
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,000
and they didn't know how it fit in. In the

618
00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:35,559
nineties there was an intern a woman working at the

619
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:39,559
British Museum with Irvane Finkel, and she found that missing piece.

620
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,320
They subsequently fitted in and they were able to translate

621
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,280
the whole thing and they found that it described that

622
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,400
story of the landing of an Arc, which really was

623
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,639
in the tablets, especially if anybody really wants to understand

624
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,719
it's one of that. It's probably the most important single

625
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:02,480
story in Mesopotamium tablets besides the creation of mankind. So

626
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,440
the two most discussed things in tablets, whether or not

627
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,039
it's Sumerian, a Kadi and a Syrian Babylonian, they all

628
00:36:09,079 --> 00:36:13,400
have versions of Cuneiform tablets and stories. The most important

629
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,599
two of them are of course, the creation of man

630
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and this deluge destructive event in which the Zayas Sudranoa

631
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:25,199
figure survived. And so that map, the Babylonian map of

632
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,280
the world when they cracked, it gave the location of

633
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,880
where that occurred, like a tourist map. So when I

634
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,880
was up there trying to understand the whole thing and

635
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:40,000
investigating nearby Lake Vaughan, it's where I uncovered and fell

636
00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:42,719
into a huge rabbit hole. And I mean when I'm

637
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,400
talking about huge rabbit hole, I mean what seemed to

638
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,960
unlock every every key on every lock. I should say

639
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,920
to an understanding of what we're we're trying to piece together. Like,

640
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,440
for instance, let's give a figure like Graham Hancock's done

641
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,880
a lot of pivotal work in this area. He's definitely

642
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:03,800
been a trailblazer. A lot of props to him. You

643
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,639
bring up something like Peru and Bolivia and Egypt and

644
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,119
Southeast Asia, and you say, how does all that connect? Well,

645
00:37:12,199 --> 00:37:15,800
this is how I believe that connects. This is taking

646
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,079
that and saying, let's put together a timeline and origin

647
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:22,519
point for where all of this seems to have originated from.

648
00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:25,599
By using the same symbols, the same stone work and

649
00:37:25,679 --> 00:37:28,519
the same teachings that then spread around the world as

650
00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:31,440
noble points, and we can trace them back to this point.

651
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:34,199
And so when I came across these sites that had

652
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,000
all those symbols and had all that information, all of

653
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,360
these incredible connections, I formed a team with experts from

654
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,840
around the world, including like doctor Robert Schock and other

655
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:49,400
very high profile geologists and academics and archaeologists too, and

656
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,199
we have a whole host of people that joined and

657
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,960
we went to all these locations I had identified, and

658
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:57,800
we investigated them to find those connections, and we found

659
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,760
profound things. We found in incredible things like dating evidence

660
00:38:02,039 --> 00:38:04,760
that we may be able to finally use in conjunction

661
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,239
with like I mentioned with John Anthony West and when

662
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,400
he brought Robert Shock in the nineties to Egypt with

663
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,400
the water erosion versus wind erosion of the sphinx enclosure.

664
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We're taking that now the next level by being able

665
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:26,159
to have potential for very identifiable betrification on some of

666
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,559
the blocks that we know or from that culture, which

667
00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:33,880
is basically like melted glass obsidian. And doctor Robert Shock came.

668
00:38:34,199 --> 00:38:36,199
That was one of the major reasons he came and

669
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,000
agreed to join the team was because it's one of

670
00:38:39,039 --> 00:38:42,519
his top theories is that this civilization and I agree,

671
00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:46,480
and that's what I'm also investigating, is that a CME event,

672
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:50,639
a coroal mass ejection event, blasted the earth during the

673
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,800
other the last Ice Age and basically destroyed this global civilization.

674
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,679
And finding this vitrification that may be some of the

675
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,719
best vitrification evident in the world, and we found it

676
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,159
a kept Callesi, so I brought him there for that.

677
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: So you're talking about is it this like the younger

678
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,199
Dryas kind of yea.

679
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,079
Speaker 2: So we're talking about between it's a combination of somewhere

680
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:15,480
between the older older Dryas and younger Dryas. A lot

681
00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:17,599
of people don't know that the Younger Dryas was actually

682
00:39:17,639 --> 00:39:20,559
just one event during that time period. In fact, there

683
00:39:20,599 --> 00:39:23,440
was one that may have been even more destructive, called

684
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,760
the Older Dryas at fourteen five hundred years ago. So

685
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,679
the Younger Dryas ended eleven thousand, six hundred years ago.

686
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,760
It was probably at its height around you know, twelve

687
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,400
thousand years ago. Say, But these two events in conjunction

688
00:39:35,519 --> 00:39:38,280
seem to have direct relationships. So it's like you can't

689
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,440
talk about the older Dryas without talking about the younger

690
00:39:41,519 --> 00:39:45,239
Dryas and vice versa. So which one of those events

691
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,000
the series of at least three major events during that

692
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,400
over a seventeen hundred year period or so or two

693
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,840
thousand year period. We don't know. That's obviously something we're

694
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:00,760
trying to dial in. But I brought Robert for that,

695
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,800
and then investigating everything else we had, and so on

696
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,000
this one particular, what's called a bobberleave. It's a giant

697
00:40:07,039 --> 00:40:11,960
Bassault cut block that weighs like fifty tons. It's absolutely incredible.

698
00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:14,639
On the it's all broken on the side, but the

699
00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:17,760
top still has a perfectly smooth cut where they carved

700
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,360
it right. And that's not argue because you can see

701
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,960
all the ones that are exactly like it that are

702
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,400
broken in the museum down below.

703
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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

704
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:32,519
and now back to the show.

705
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Speaker 2: But when we identified and knew that, and I found

706
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,119
vitrification two years ago when I was doing a scouting

707
00:40:42,159 --> 00:40:44,960
trip there, so I brought Robert out there to investigate,

708
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:47,519
and he hyked up with us and he went out.

709
00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:49,760
He actually went there twice with me. He went out

710
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,760
and he went to this these boulders, like there's blocks

711
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,039
that have been cut, and I showed them all the vitrification,

712
00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:00,440
but specifically this one that's that massive block, and it

713
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,679
actually has the basalt, which is a volcanic, very hard stone.

714
00:41:05,079 --> 00:41:08,320
It actually has melted into a glass on the on

715
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,159
the surface level. And so when he saw that, you know,

716
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,440
he confirmed that it was vitrification, and it was a

717
00:41:13,559 --> 00:41:18,280
very big deal because utrification can only occur alex at

718
00:41:18,559 --> 00:41:22,000
very specific intervals and moments in history when you have

719
00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:25,239
an extreme event. It's not an every day a event.

720
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,400
In fact, lightning can't really do this either. It's something

721
00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:34,119
that's more like a ton of lightning bolts all together

722
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:38,800
in one focused interval area. It's related to light very

723
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,519
zeus like very zeusless exactly. And so when we found that,

724
00:41:43,519 --> 00:41:46,360
that was one of the pieces of dating evidence that

725
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,719
we're using, and there's others that are far more even

726
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,360
exciting than that that are related to that region. When

727
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,760
we were doing that that we're exploring, and I'm also

728
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,840
in conjunction writing my most important new the new book

729
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,159
I'm like sixty percent or so that highlights and lays

730
00:42:02,199 --> 00:42:03,840
this all out, the whole fact.

731
00:42:04,039 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: So when you were mentioning before that that there's this

732
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:13,239
global civilization arguably around the Atlantean time, and then this

733
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:18,519
event happens and whatever's it's wiped out, and whoever survives

734
00:42:18,559 --> 00:42:20,280
is these kind of stories, And you were saying that

735
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,239
for people watching, you know, it's not that far fetched

736
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:29,360
because we as a civilization have already put away our knowledge.

737
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,039
There's that seed bank in like Wis Norway or something

738
00:42:33,079 --> 00:42:36,000
like that, that there's a giant inside of a mountain somewhere.

739
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:41,440
There's no reason to say that we won't find that

740
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,840
treasure trove somewhere when the time is right for us

741
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,239
to find something under the Sphinx paw, sure, why not?

742
00:42:50,199 --> 00:42:54,239
Or you know, or is there stuff underneath the Great Pyramid,

743
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:59,679
as the Italian crew that took those satellite pictures are

744
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,679
now starting to discover. When the time is right, we

745
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,559
will find those things. But it's not that far fetched

746
00:43:06,599 --> 00:43:09,320
because we are actually doing that right now. So if

747
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,679
tomorrow the same younger Driest event or older dryest event

748
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,119
happened and we wiped everything out, there would still be

749
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:21,559
remnants of our knowledge and technology safe in mountains somewhere.

750
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,960
You know, God knows, the US has a bunch of

751
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,519
bases inside of mountain.

752
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: Yes, they do.

753
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would survive. That would survive all of this stuff.

754
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,920
And if someone happened to find it in five hundred years,

755
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,440
a thousand years where because of where they're placed, it

756
00:43:39,519 --> 00:43:41,519
could survive without power.

757
00:43:41,679 --> 00:43:42,519
Speaker 2: I agree.

758
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's not that far fetched. It's not that

759
00:43:45,199 --> 00:43:46,199
far fetch what you're talking about.

760
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 2: No, And that brings up a good point is that

761
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,800
maybe we do have more we could leave behind, I

762
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,280
mean more. Let's say, what is more? Are we actually

763
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,119
leaving behind as much knowledge? Probably not, but we're leaving

764
00:43:57,119 --> 00:44:00,360
behind things like seeds and valuable things that are sary

765
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,880
for the restarting of a civilization. So it's interesting that

766
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,280
we would actually have different things that we would leave.

767
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:14,159
Now let's go over let's mention the elephant in the room. Though. Yes,

768
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:18,840
everything is cyclical. If we look at cycles, all you

769
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,559
have to do is look. Anybody that wants to challenge

770
00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:25,360
me on this really is just look at Antarctic ice

771
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,519
coores from Vostok, Antarctica. Okay, you're gonna look at the

772
00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:30,639
last What you're gonna look at four hundred and fifty

773
00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:35,599
thousand years. What you're gonna see is a beautiful, super

774
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:42,920
super mirrored like exact cycle of rise and falls of

775
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:47,280
temperatures and cyclical ice ages that go on like consistently

776
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,280
every about one hundred thousand years. It's not whether or

777
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,800
not we live in cycles, it's whether or not that's

778
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,559
how long those cycles are now, And according to her meticism,

779
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,480
the nature of everything is cycles, including us in civilization,

780
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,840
and ultimately someday in the future we will be destroyed.

781
00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:08,519
It's not a question about about if, it's more of

782
00:45:08,559 --> 00:45:11,280
a question about when. And that's not a fear based statement.

783
00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:14,320
It may be twenty thousand years from now, and we

784
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,199
wondered thousands we will have reached who knows what that

785
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,800
what is meant to be a fear based system. But

786
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,960
nothing is permanent. That's the nature of a third dimensional reality.

787
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,280
The physical reality is that nothing is ever permanent. It

788
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:32,320
will always eventually so it die and be lost. But however,

789
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,840
what this civilization seemed to leave behind was the reason

790
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,880
why it's so important. Instead of leaving behind symbols that

791
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:46,320
are showing them fighting with wars and becoming powerful empires,

792
00:45:46,519 --> 00:45:49,360
it's basically the opposite, is that we see no sign

793
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,519
of that. We see no evidence of that which is

794
00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:57,000
a problem Alex because if you if little Alex goes

795
00:45:57,039 --> 00:45:59,440
to school when he's a kid, and he goes to

796
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:05,840
learn about everything about geography, about philosophy, about the human story,

797
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,360
all of that, he's going to learn that we emerged

798
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,280
six five hundred years ago from the city of Erroq.

799
00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:14,920
That's that's what it states, even though that's not accurate.

800
00:46:16,199 --> 00:46:18,320
I mean Iraq was six thousand, five hundred years ago,

801
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,119
but we could go into that. He's going to learn

802
00:46:20,159 --> 00:46:23,400
that that occurred. And then after that point, during the

803
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:28,719
during that rise of the Assyrian and Acadian empires, you

804
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,000
then saw empires around the world just rise up, like

805
00:46:33,159 --> 00:46:35,880
the Babylonians, the Meds culture of the Ottoman Empires, the

806
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,880
Roman Empires endlessly over and over again. You'll learn that

807
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:46,079
the human story is integral with us creating our civilizations

808
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:49,280
that were based on being empires. Yeah, they had agriculture,

809
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,960
but they were empire base, which means we were war based.

810
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,960
That defined the entire existence of how we sought ourselves

811
00:46:56,039 --> 00:46:59,559
with like conquering our world around us, survival the fittest

812
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:03,519
and just being smarting and whoever can conquer can can dominate. Well.

813
00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:07,159
The problem is that what we're looking at right now

814
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,159
with these lost civilizations and the evidence of these sites

815
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,800
and these structures and what they left behind, is no

816
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,440
evidence that that ever existed. So we could be looking

817
00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:20,719
at a completely fundamental way to look at humanity that

818
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,960
will radically shift everything we think we know about who

819
00:47:24,039 --> 00:47:27,480
we are, and I mean on a rippling effect that

820
00:47:27,519 --> 00:47:30,159
then would show be like, well, what was the mentality

821
00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:34,239
of that culture? What did they value was? What was there?

822
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,320
What was their language? What were they interested in leaving behind?

823
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,639
How did that define what their culture was? What was

824
00:47:40,679 --> 00:47:43,599
their capabilities? What were they what were they doing with

825
00:47:43,639 --> 00:47:47,480
their time? And if people were to do that and

826
00:47:47,559 --> 00:47:49,360
incorporate a lot of what we're trying to show in

827
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,960
the book in the documentary, they would realize that we

828
00:47:53,159 --> 00:47:56,800
are a very poor shadow of our former selves and

829
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,559
that we would be completely different than we are now.

830
00:47:59,679 --> 00:48:02,480
And you're we've seeing those cracks and those things emerge

831
00:48:02,519 --> 00:48:04,880
with me. You do shows all the time. You see

832
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,000
the world opening up to higher conscious places and spirituality

833
00:48:08,199 --> 00:48:12,079
and energy. Yes, we're finally getting back to that, but

834
00:48:12,199 --> 00:48:15,159
what if it's so much more brand and deep than

835
00:48:15,199 --> 00:48:17,960
even that, you know, And that's what we may find.

836
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,519
Speaker 1: If we survive as a species, let's say for the

837
00:48:20,559 --> 00:48:25,159
next five hundred years, okay, which is in the blink

838
00:48:25,199 --> 00:48:28,880
of even the even in the mainstream idea that we

839
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,360
were we emerged sixty five hundred years BC, if you will,

840
00:48:33,559 --> 00:48:37,119
so eighty five hundred years ago, let's give or take

841
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,480
which is bs because go blackly Debe is older. But

842
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:45,039
that's another conversation among other among other sites that are older.

843
00:48:45,039 --> 00:48:47,360
But let's say it's just that what we've been able

844
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,280
to accomplish in the last one hundred and fifty years,

845
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,800
one hundred and sixty years is so monumental, yes, and

846
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,920
so fast it's insane. So if we kept just on

847
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,239
that trajectory one hundred years from now, just one hundred,

848
00:49:03,199 --> 00:49:06,360
where would our if we haven't destroyed each other? Where

849
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,360
is the technology? Where is the technology going to be?

850
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,079
And are we five hundred years from now? Where's the technology?

851
00:49:13,519 --> 00:49:16,639
Are we going to be a multiplanetary species? Are we

852
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,599
going to be able to create a technology that would

853
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,760
help us survive any cataclysms that does happen to happen

854
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:23,400
as this planet?

855
00:49:23,679 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 2: What do you think? That's the ultimate question. So we

856
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,719
may have an advantage that our ancient ancestors never had,

857
00:49:29,039 --> 00:49:34,280
and so that advantage is having certain types of technology

858
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,519
that I don't think they had. And I think that

859
00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:40,800
what we're looking at is what we become is the

860
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:45,679
ultimate hybrid of both worlds. So their world, I think,

861
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,639
was very based on a lot of different principles and

862
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,079
understandings and things than we are. So I think they

863
00:49:52,119 --> 00:49:54,639
were very connected to the earth. They were very connected

864
00:49:54,639 --> 00:49:58,039
to knowing specific types of stones that had resonance to them,

865
00:49:58,159 --> 00:50:04,639
that had very specific mineral structures that had fields and connections,

866
00:50:04,679 --> 00:50:08,519
and you can just by using certain architectural means, could

867
00:50:08,519 --> 00:50:11,079
create something that we don't even understand today. Look, without

868
00:50:11,119 --> 00:50:13,480
a doubt we see that in the temples and pyramids,

869
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,800
using potentially collecting starlight and connecting to all these things.

870
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,599
It's wild to consider that they may have had a

871
00:50:20,639 --> 00:50:23,480
form of technology that was much more based on consciousness

872
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:28,760
and based on an organic type of technology that could

873
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,360
do all kinds of powerful things, but it had its limitations.

874
00:50:34,119 --> 00:50:36,599
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

875
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,519
and now back to the show.

876
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 2: Right, So, if you have a CME event that's about

877
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,000
to blast the earth or something that's going to hit

878
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,280
maybe that's not enough. Maybe you can't say it with that,

879
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,280
you know, And so what do we have, Well, we

880
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,519
have all this fun tech that if we're able to

881
00:50:56,519 --> 00:50:59,440
become moral enough and we learn the lessons and grow

882
00:50:59,519 --> 00:51:03,440
enough to be highly highly conscious and become that hybrid

883
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,159
of the two, maybe we can use that technology in

884
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,000
ways that they never could have imagined to continue that acceleration.

885
00:51:11,199 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: Remind me, I know you're not a geologist, but fuel

886
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:20,719
the background, now, right, So so fossil fuels, oil and coal,

887
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,679
which is basically carbon based fossil fuels that takes millions

888
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,639
of years to form, am I right? Right? Okay, So

889
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,840
if it takes millions of years to form, that means

890
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,199
that societies, let's say Atlantis or prior societies to that,

891
00:51:36,159 --> 00:51:40,119
did not use fossil fuels at the level that, if

892
00:51:40,159 --> 00:51:43,639
at all, at the level. Maybe some fire at the

893
00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:45,679
beginning and so on and so forth, but they didn't

894
00:51:46,079 --> 00:51:48,639
drill and grab all this stuff. Because that is the

895
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,000
basis of our entire civilization.

896
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,519
Speaker 2: Is they were not an industrial.

897
00:51:53,039 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: Civilization, correct, exactly, So then they were using technologies and

898
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,239
power sources that are far beyond our understanding. Does that

899
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:00,639
make sense?

900
00:52:01,199 --> 00:52:06,079
Speaker 2: Yes? And so Obviously. The big thing that comes to that,

901
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:07,960
I'm sure everyone is thinking that right now is the

902
00:52:08,039 --> 00:52:11,320
Nicola Tesla. You know, I firmly believe that he stumbled

903
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,079
upon their technology by studying ancient Egypt. With the fact

904
00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:18,079
that obelists very much acts like a radio antenna, and

905
00:52:18,119 --> 00:52:21,239
the fact that pyramids have certain types of energy that

906
00:52:21,679 --> 00:52:25,639
can come through magnetism and through different things with even

907
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:30,719
like water properties through their aquifer systems and such. He

908
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,559
stumbled upon free energy without a doubt. There's no arguing

909
00:52:34,599 --> 00:52:37,519
whether or not Nicola Tesla stumbled upon free energy. Anybody

910
00:52:37,519 --> 00:52:39,519
that looks into it and studies it knows that what

911
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:42,639
he tapped into is an understanding of what's called magnetism.

912
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,679
So the Earth is a giant spinning ball of iron,

913
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,559
and it creates a magnetic field. That magnetic field is

914
00:52:49,559 --> 00:52:52,559
what protects the Earth and creates that balance between the

915
00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:55,840
North and South pole. When that magnetic field is disrupted,

916
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,519
it's when all hell breaks loose with these events. So

917
00:52:58,639 --> 00:53:01,679
he just dialed in and tapped into a natural resonance

918
00:53:01,679 --> 00:53:05,679
fields that the Earth is always creating. That's magic. That's

919
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,320
what he figured out, is it's magic, and that they

920
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,639
had mastered then understanding, and that is how they were

921
00:53:12,639 --> 00:53:15,239
able to figure out and acquire energy and to use

922
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,480
it in certain ways that we're not. And so that's

923
00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:20,679
what we're I'm talking about with the future, is that

924
00:53:21,159 --> 00:53:24,880
technologies may completely not be what we think, where we

925
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,840
actually dial and go a different direction, which is towards

926
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,400
free energies and then fuel it fringing up the world

927
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,960
from its dependency on pollution and destroying it with mining

928
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,559
like cobalt and other things. We may able to free

929
00:53:36,599 --> 00:53:40,480
those things using free energy, and that way ends up

930
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,320
being a hybrid. So it's a technology he discovered from

931
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:48,840
the ancients, but through that we then fuel our future

932
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,719
through clean renewable sources because of an ancient understanding. And

933
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,000
I don't think that's the only example of that. I

934
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,840
think we're going to find other examples of ways that

935
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,639
we can wrongly enhance and change. I'll give you an example.

936
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,840
I think that we are very very poor in understanding

937
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:12,320
of architecture, sacred architecture, and they seem to have mastered understanding, like, oh,

938
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,280
we're gonna build with just this stone and this stone,

939
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,599
We're gonna merge them together in a certain way and

940
00:54:17,639 --> 00:54:20,639
have them in a certain alignment and a design and

941
00:54:20,679 --> 00:54:23,719
a certain connection with stars above, and we're gonna create

942
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,039
something that y'all have no idea what it is, and

943
00:54:26,079 --> 00:54:29,320
we don't we have we're like mystified. So when when

944
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,360
we're filming that we're filming the documentary, we brung we

945
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,440
brought with us some sacred geometry experts and architecture experts

946
00:54:36,679 --> 00:54:39,079
to look at some of the structures like ionis to

947
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:41,719
try to understand what is this? Is this like a

948
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:46,480
network energy field that's formed when the sun moves through

949
00:54:46,519 --> 00:54:49,920
and charges the basalt with magnetite and then somehow as

950
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an interaction with the andesite and the cold and calicite alabaster.

951
00:54:54,039 --> 00:54:56,679
That's what I mean is that they may have had

952
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,719
profound understandings, which includes the big one in the room plasma.

953
00:55:02,119 --> 00:55:04,719
How did they heat these stones? How did they mold them?

954
00:55:05,079 --> 00:55:07,440
Why in Peru can you find blocks that looked like

955
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,639
they're pillows, Like they're like they were heated up and

956
00:55:10,679 --> 00:55:14,039
put into place and then solid again. Now we're going

957
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down another another whole rabbit hole of technology that they

958
00:55:16,599 --> 00:55:20,119
have that may be indicated in these symbols like an

959
00:55:20,119 --> 00:55:24,320
ionus and others like in Vedic symbols about some kind

960
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,239
of device that they somehow could harness plasma. So what

961
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,360
I'm what I mean is the more you look at it, Alex,

962
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the more they may have actually been more sophisticated than

963
00:55:34,039 --> 00:55:36,719
we are. Because look at what you just mentioned. We're

964
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,239
trying to fuel things based on a non renewable energy

965
00:55:40,559 --> 00:55:44,239
energy source. That's like polluting the Earth and destroying it.

966
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,360
Whereas they could just tap into free energy and do

967
00:55:46,519 --> 00:55:49,360
not do anything. So what's more advanced.

968
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 1: But yet with all that technology, let's say they did

969
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,119
it able to talk to have free energy, and they

970
00:55:54,119 --> 00:55:58,679
were able to have this plasma technology that you're talking about,

971
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,000
but yet when the catalyst and came, they could not

972
00:56:01,079 --> 00:56:05,920
do anything about it. We have, I mean, we we

973
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,960
do have a space station. There's only four people up there,

974
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,280
five people up there, but we do have a space station.

975
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,679
We are capable, we are capable of going off planet,

976
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and I think within our lifetime we'll probably get to Mars.

977
00:56:18,639 --> 00:56:20,679
I'm not sure we'll develop it at the level of

978
00:56:20,679 --> 00:56:25,239
total recall that nineties great movie with art of Sourcesnegger

979
00:56:25,559 --> 00:56:28,639
in our lifetime, but I think that will eventually be

980
00:56:29,079 --> 00:56:32,360
one hundred years two hundred years from now that capability

981
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,239
of doing something like that. So the ancients might that

982
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,840
the ancients had all this advanced technology, but it was

983
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,280
I don't know if I would say it's earth bound,

984
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,960
but it wasn't advanced enough to protect them that's from

985
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:44,679
a cataclysm.

986
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 2: No, you're right, it's a good term. It's called earth

987
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,280
earth bound technology versus like we would say almost like industrial.

988
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,239
I don't know what you want to call ours, but

989
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,440
there is this very earth based.

990
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,559
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's in't an amazing math that how how

991
00:56:58,639 --> 00:57:02,000
Star Trek was a combination of the industrial like being

992
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,760
able to build a ship to take us out of

993
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:09,199
this planet, but also using the technology of the of

994
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,400
the ancients to power because it wasn't burning coal on

995
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,679
the enterprise. Isn't that amazing? Do you think that's where

996
00:57:14,679 --> 00:57:15,119
we're going?

997
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like it's combining this ancient earth like

998
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:23,840
technology or understanding with our modern technology and fusing them

999
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,639
together with some mix that maybe we've never had before,

1000
00:57:26,679 --> 00:57:29,960
and maybe that's what will ultimately save us, you know,

1001
00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:32,559
down the line the future and create something new that's

1002
00:57:32,679 --> 00:57:35,760
never really been seen before. So I'm very excited to

1003
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,280
see how all that's going to incorporate and be part

1004
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,079
of our path in the future.

1005
00:57:42,199 --> 00:57:44,159
Speaker 1: Man, Matt, I could keep talking to you man for

1006
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:45,320
another five days.

1007
00:57:45,559 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 2: I look forward to.

1008
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Speaker 1: The next time you come down to Austin mecaus. When

1009
00:57:48,599 --> 00:57:50,440
you get down here, we usually sit down and talk

1010
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,719
for two three hours. So where can people find out

1011
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,840
more about you? And when when is this documentary in

1012
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:56,880
this book going to be coming out?

1013
00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, so please follow my website, the Stage of Time

1014
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,559
dot com. I'm also on YouTube Matthew Lacroix and the

1015
00:58:03,559 --> 00:58:06,599
Stage of Time on Instagram, but you can see on there.

1016
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,360
We've posted the new tour dates for next for twenty

1017
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,199
twenty six if you want to sign up and go

1018
00:58:11,239 --> 00:58:14,199
on those adventures with us, and you can see updates

1019
00:58:14,199 --> 00:58:17,199
in the documentary. And we're in the process of about

1020
00:58:17,199 --> 00:58:19,440
to finish do the editing for that, so we can

1021
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,599
conclude that and I will let everybody know updates as

1022
00:58:22,599 --> 00:58:25,519
well as when I can get the book completed. I

1023
00:58:25,559 --> 00:58:28,519
am again about sixty percent through and I want to

1024
00:58:28,519 --> 00:58:30,840
make sure that I do the best job possible because

1025
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,920
it's a really significant body of work that combines with

1026
00:58:34,039 --> 00:58:37,840
the documentary. So I appreciate everyone's support in that on

1027
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,960
this journey. It really is incredible what we're uncovering and

1028
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:42,039
what we're a part of.

1029
00:58:43,719 --> 00:58:46,199
Speaker 1: Brother, I appreciate all the hard work man, what you are.

1030
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,360
You're not the most interesting man in the world. That

1031
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,079
would that. That's Robert Edward Grantee is the most interesting

1032
00:58:52,079 --> 00:58:55,079
man the world. But everybody else you are in that

1033
00:58:55,199 --> 00:58:59,039
world by far, my friend. You're globe trotting all over

1034
00:58:59,079 --> 00:59:01,920
the world man. So it's a pretty impressive.

1035
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:02,159
Speaker 2: Brother.

1036
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,079
Speaker 1: I wish you nothing but the best and continue on

1037
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,280
your journey and in your adventures, and hopefully you will

1038
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,000
help awaken this planet and awaken our consciousness even more

1039
00:59:13,199 --> 00:59:15,079
with the work you're doing. So I appreciate you, my friend.

1040
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,079
Speaker 2: Thank you, Alex. I appreciate you as well.

1041
00:59:18,679 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: I'd like to thank Matt so much for coming on

1042
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,920
the show and sharing his discoveries and knowledge with all

1043
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,559
of us. If you want to get links to anything

1044
00:59:24,559 --> 00:59:26,239
we spoke about in this episode, head over to the

1045
00:59:26,239 --> 00:59:30,719
show notes at nextlevelsoul dot com forward slash six or zero. Now,

1046
00:59:30,719 --> 00:59:34,199
if this conversation stirred something in you, there's more waiting.

1047
00:59:34,599 --> 00:59:38,039
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1048
00:59:38,159 --> 00:59:42,360
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1049
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,639
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1050
00:59:46,639 --> 00:59:52,719
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1051
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,960
your awakening at next Levelsoul dot TV. Thank you so

1052
00:59:57,039 --> 01:00:00,400
much for listening. As I always say, trust the Ernie,

1053
01:00:00,679 --> 01:00:01,400
it's there.

1054
01:00:01,519 --> 01:00:02,079
Speaker 2: To teach you.

1055
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Speaker 1: I'll see you next time.