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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Taelsee Tech podcast. Ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been gone for a couple minutes. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>your patience. Randy gets his own square.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to share one.

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<v Speaker 1>I have crashed Mike's house. He's asked me to leave

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<v Speaker 1>many times, but I'm still here.

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<v Speaker 3>I got Drew to leave my house, but not without

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<v Speaker 3>a parting gift of his double USBC brick thing. First.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, somehow I knew you were going to bring

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<v Speaker 2>this up.

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<v Speaker 3>D Uh when we said finale, I wasn't thinking a year.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not a year. Has it been a year?

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<v Speaker 3>Almost eleven months?

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<v Speaker 2>Just like eleven and a half months. It's not a year.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, I feel like, uh, there is so much

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about in I mean, hey, the beauty of

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<v Speaker 3>waiting eleven months, we now all there's no there's no

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<v Speaker 3>dead space. We have so much to cover for twenty

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<v Speaker 3>three we'll probably miss something.

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<v Speaker 4>So I got my ultra, Randy got his ultra. Drew,

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<v Speaker 4>where's yours?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I gained this. Since the last episode, we

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<v Speaker 1>all have a new watch.

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<v Speaker 5>Ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 3>If you are listening on a podcast Apple, you're watching

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<v Speaker 3>on YouTube. If you are not tracking us outside of

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<v Speaker 3>this specific uh uh medium. You should really follow some

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<v Speaker 3>of us or go subscribe to the channels to catch up,

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<v Speaker 3>which are.

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<v Speaker 1>On completely different platform.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to follow me nothing. Randy's no longer on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>I am only on Twitter, so we're on the different

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 3>Completely Uh, there's no more tellors of tech channel, there's

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<v Speaker 3>no more anything.

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<v Speaker 1>All gone throwing off because of the desk.

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<v Speaker 2>His arms are going over the three D effectveshol of

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<v Speaker 2>the It's.

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<v Speaker 3>Really welcome to the artificial intelligence they didn't want you

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<v Speaker 3>to know about.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting that. What's that Google demo? No, this is

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<v Speaker 2>that service.

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<v Speaker 5>iOS twenty six, the spatial depth thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right, so it's called twenty six.

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<v Speaker 3>Where do we start? Well, first of all, before we

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<v Speaker 3>even start, Hi, guys, I missed you.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi Raandy, and I can tell you trying to kick

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<v Speaker 4>him out, and for everybody to the people who have pinged.

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<v Speaker 3>Me NonStop for eleven months, the band's back together. The

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<v Speaker 3>gangs are here, reunited. You could stop saying we need

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<v Speaker 3>to have this conversation on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>I got it for the last time yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>I said no more. We are doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>Bags streets.

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<v Speaker 3>So much to talk about it. I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we should probably go in order. What was like

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing that happened with Apple this year.

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<v Speaker 4>Was the first thing that happened last time we were

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<v Speaker 4>on Is that you left your device at Randy's place.

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<v Speaker 3>That wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>That wasn't. No, we did a couple of remote ones.

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<v Speaker 3>But the finale, I remember holding a candle saying, Mike,

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<v Speaker 3>you're fired. I haven't done Trump in so long, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not even.

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<v Speaker 4>We were alive last time we recorded.

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<v Speaker 3>Jimmy Carter was alive. Wait, no, was he alive?

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<v Speaker 5>That guy was still living? And about the cyber truck,

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<v Speaker 5>I think I've hit all the checks.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, there's actually a good reason to be and everything

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<v Speaker 4>else in that company so.

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<v Speaker 2>Much to catch. I'm trying to remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I do remember, because I was in LA when

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<v Speaker 1>it happened. Uh m, four MacBook air.

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<v Speaker 4>Jimmy Carter passed away December twenty ninth, twenty four, So, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>that was right.

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<v Speaker 2>He died with the finale.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my, it was probably directly because we didn't continue

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<v Speaker 1>the show.

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<v Speaker 4>So is it confirmed that Jimmy Carter's back? Since we're back?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I got up the high pad. Since the yeah, last,

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<v Speaker 3>what is that.

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<v Speaker 2>You have the finess? This one's better.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel that one is, in my opinion, I think better,

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<v Speaker 3>But so many people want us to fight Drew, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what you disagree?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh sixteen E six E? That's right?

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<v Speaker 2>That was this year. That was a phone. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>remember that? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well it's similar to this because it has one

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<v Speaker 1>camera on the back.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have a sixteen?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, before we battle battle the minds? We I'm really

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<v Speaker 3>As you can see, guys, we didn't actually prepare notes

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<v Speaker 3>for this, as we always don't. We had since when

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<v Speaker 3>do we do that? Dub dub?

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<v Speaker 2>Did we disagree on sixteen? Is that what you were

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<v Speaker 2>bringing up?

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<v Speaker 3>I remember people saying you and Drew need to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about this because he has a different stance. I always

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<v Speaker 3>twenty six is another one.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's where we probably differ.

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<v Speaker 3>But you can start there. Just hit the ground running

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<v Speaker 3>and beat the hell out of each other.

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<v Speaker 4>Randy has more skinning the game than I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, both of you are rocking. I'm sorry, Which thing

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to talk about?

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<v Speaker 3>Please?

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<v Speaker 1>Mike has a seventeen pro and Randy has a seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you guys got the same case.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I feel nice.

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<v Speaker 4>Better though, because mine's either a Ninja Turtle or Master Chief.

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<v Speaker 3>Yours is just clean minus clean and I on this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but you have the iPhone Air and I saw you

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<v Speaker 2>There were those. I threw them away. They're in the

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's very expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I returned them and they didn't check the boxes,

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<v Speaker 1>which I thought was very interesting. I'm not saying which

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<v Speaker 1>Apple store I went to, but the employees were very young.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say nineteen twenty years old, iOS twenty

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<v Speaker 2>Years old.

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<v Speaker 5>Unready emails older than them.

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<v Speaker 2>You emails.

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<v Speaker 3>Not on my old email count the one I don't

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<v Speaker 3>use anymore. My AOL Yeah AOL dial up is gone.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what we missed.

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<v Speaker 2>It was here? Was it around? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Just like Jimmy Carter? What what are you even talking

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<v Speaker 3>about right now?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go into okay sixteen E were you

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<v Speaker 1>four or against?

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<v Speaker 3>Four? Dang?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. I was hoping to move on.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, now that I know the rest of the year,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm against. But when it came out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but there was no mag safe.

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<v Speaker 3>When I asked people that I felt like it was

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<v Speaker 3>targeting for they don't use max safe.

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<v Speaker 1>They use cables, and they use lightning cables too, But

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean we keep lightning around, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's been a few years now, We've had enough

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<v Speaker 3>time to transition that. But mag safe is an option,

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<v Speaker 3>not a necessity. A cable is a necessity. Oh, this

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<v Speaker 3>was good. This was good.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I'm doing Henry cavill.

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<v Speaker 3>Yo.

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<v Speaker 2>You just grew a beard doing that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yo? Am I tom cruise because I'm short, I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 3>But also since the last podcast, I lost like fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>pounds and maybe a black I heay, thank you. Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>nothing in the universe has ever gone or lost. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just transferred.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's how that works, transferred.

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<v Speaker 3>All this watching Mike, you'll get the other fifteen Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>wait before you already get this.

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<v Speaker 4>Fifteen every fifteen pro macs.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, before we continue with the sixteen year whatever. I

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<v Speaker 3>just gotta I'm curious because I see you having some

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<v Speaker 3>white stuff in your ears, Drew, did you keep the

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<v Speaker 3>AirPods Pro three?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Woo, everything, you know, everything went, everything went back because

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<v Speaker 1>them for much, much cheaper on Amazon, So no need

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<v Speaker 1>to pay full price. I think they went on sale

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<v Speaker 1>before they launched on Amazon, so it was like, well, shoot,

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna pick them up, but I already could

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<v Speaker 1>have waited. But I'm also a sustainability for because tech user,

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<v Speaker 1>so my intention is to use these until they stop

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<v Speaker 1>working because they're fine.

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<v Speaker 4>So lucky you. I'm rocking beats now for ye haven't

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<v Speaker 4>followed me?

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa, he's fully committed to the orange here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, orange orange.

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<v Speaker 3>Are those the beats that have the little wings that

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<v Speaker 3>go in your ear? Yes, your ear right now?

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<v Speaker 2>They're really well hidden. Actually your hair covers them up.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, lighting.

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<v Speaker 4>I would equate them to the old ear pods actually

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of sound quality.

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<v Speaker 2>The old ear pods. Yes, so that's not a compliment.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say they're they're good for what they are.

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<v Speaker 4>But going from air pods Pro to them, there's a

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<v Speaker 4>noticeable change. Even though that they have a n C

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<v Speaker 4>like feature, it's not as good in fact, like it

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<v Speaker 4>would prey U be me turning on and I can

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<v Speaker 4>still hear like air conditioning going. It's just slightly quieter

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<v Speaker 4>versus AirPods Pro, which like subtracted entirely.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the transparency, a n C.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff they do is unbelievable, the third gen especially, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, these can't be twice as quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't make strange hear my heart beat?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, doctor strange, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh but yeah, they're all right for what they are.

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<v Speaker 4>They hurt my ears after a couple hours, which is

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<v Speaker 4>good because I shouldn't have them in all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>But the battery life is pretty good to where I

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<v Speaker 4>don't have to take them out because the battery is

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<v Speaker 4>low compared to the pros, which I felt like I

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<v Speaker 4>was always putting one in, taking one.

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<v Speaker 2>Out, checking one out. They love to die all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish I loved anything in this world as much

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<v Speaker 3>as these things love to die. And it's not even close.

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<v Speaker 2>Such a good quote.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys miss me yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you rocking the new ones? Randy?

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<v Speaker 3>I am so glad you asked, Mike. I am who

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<v Speaker 3>I am? Rocking the air Pods pro with lightning. If

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<v Speaker 3>it wants to focus.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like a grandma. I can't see anything.

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<v Speaker 5>I know it's not focus.

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<v Speaker 2>Hang on, I thought you upgraded everything this year.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like you, Drew. I am waiting for them to

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<v Speaker 3>go on sale because I am a maximalist on minimizing

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<v Speaker 3>my payments.

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<v Speaker 2>Maximalist.

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<v Speaker 3>So nobody told me I when I talked about AirPods

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<v Speaker 3>Pro three, I was confused on something and I still

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I have a really dumb way of finding this out.

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<v Speaker 2>So many dog photos.

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<v Speaker 3>It says. Here's what it says. Designed by Apple in California.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got a lot of stuff to twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>So that's my best bet because I have reference that

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<v Speaker 1>many times, and I always choose the clips that don't

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<v Speaker 2>If you showed that, you couldn't tell the difference between

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<v Speaker 2>This wouldn't have happened.

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<v Speaker 1>USBC AirPods pro Gen threes and then these would be

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<v Speaker 1>these would be forced. This would have simplified so much.

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<v Speaker 1>But now Randy is like, you can look at the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of this case and still not know exactly which

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<v Speaker 2>So it must have been the one. I believe that

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<v Speaker 2>Roll folder work.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good fact checker. How big is the b

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, well, so you're rocking the old ones. You're both

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<v Speaker 4>waiting for Amazon or whoever to give you a great deal, right, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Will pull the trigger. I mean, worst case scenario. The

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<v Speaker 3>deals normally drop the same time that holiday window opens

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<v Speaker 3>up for through December, so I will be.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna tell you guys, Uh, here's a tech podcast exclusive.

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<v Speaker 3>I will be picking up the iPhone Air when it

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<v Speaker 7>Hubbler is all about. Respect I predict he won't keep it.

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<v Speaker 7>I agree, okay, is that.

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<v Speaker 3>I protect I'm not going to keep it, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Then he surprises all this including himself, by keeping it.

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<v Speaker 3>So no, this thing is amazing. I For years I've

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<v Speaker 3>wanted an aluminum pro and Drew and I, despite our differences,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't agree on one thing to the grave. Aluminum

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<v Speaker 3>is the better best material for heat dissipation. Wait, aesthetics,

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<v Speaker 3>if you want to have multiple colors, Mike being the

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<v Speaker 3>example with the cosmic orange.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how are you guys liking it?

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<v Speaker 4>I just want orange.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't do that now.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a white fourteen and I'm like, I kind

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<v Speaker 4>of want some color.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, can you put your camera back in frame for me?

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<v Speaker 3>Real quick Cortana. I need to know that's not going

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<v Speaker 3>to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, speaker, what if you miss pro?

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<v Speaker 2>I need a weapon.

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<v Speaker 3>I need a cosmic orange. Honestly, Drew, if I'm being

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<v Speaker 3>honest with you, Drew, I suspected that you were going

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<v Speaker 3>to actually upgrade to this one because the fifteenth to

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<v Speaker 3>the sixteen was literally not noticeable. Is the button that

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<v Speaker 3>we all hate.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very lame, and I regret making the upgrade.

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<v Speaker 1>I should have kept the fifteen feel very.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifteen to the seventeen on the pro lineup, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 3>still kind of pushing it. But I feel, especially for you, Drew,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel that front facing camera does wonders.

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<v Speaker 5>Dude, I love that thing.

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<v Speaker 3>My my current setup of how I kind of rock

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<v Speaker 3>with the thing. I would have gotten the base model

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen just for anybody who was wondering is the color?

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<v Speaker 4>But you just make like three or four videos saying

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<v Speaker 4>why I'm not going with the regular one.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm going with keep talking, keep talking, I'm just thinking

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<v Speaker 8>what it just talks to each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh he's bad, Oh it's still Oh you bought a

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<v Speaker 2>second copy. Good job you had to get that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, no, he had to get his own version, because

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<v Speaker 4>of course you can't part with the one that his

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<v Speaker 2>M So I'm trying to think.

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<v Speaker 1>For there's got to be a good analogy for all

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<v Speaker 1>the tech reviewers who all kept saying the exact same thing,

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<v Speaker 1>which is, everyone should get this phone. This phone is perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>this phone is great. I'm not going to get this phone,

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<v Speaker 1>but everyone else, Well.

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<v Speaker 5>The thing is, uh, telephone, it's great.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been using I've been using telephoto the daily and

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<v Speaker 3>I film I'm pulling a te loas of tech and

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<v Speaker 3>ev here and I film on on this primarily. And

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<v Speaker 3>I like the ability of stripping that artificial sharpening that

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<v Speaker 3>you could do just by going to uh log to

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<v Speaker 3>LOG two is, but but doing that with the h

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<v Speaker 3>g VC codec is still a small file. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>able to actually like crank out videos pretty quick in

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<v Speaker 3>trans and air drop them relatively quickly video wire. I

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<v Speaker 3>totally get why you've done it with your with the

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<v Speaker 3>since the fifteen pro, I see why you've done that now, Drew,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, this is actually like low key fun,

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<v Speaker 3>the same reason why I've made the iPad Pro the

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<v Speaker 3>main computer for me because it's fun. Filming content has

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<v Speaker 3>become fun and I get excited to put out a

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<v Speaker 3>video daily because of this little uh sucker. And I

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<v Speaker 3>keep experimenting. You made comments about my lights. I'm experimenting

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<v Speaker 3>with formats and stuff like that. So as a creator,

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<v Speaker 3>the Pro is the first profone that feels like a pro,

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<v Speaker 3>whereas for everybody else, the base model iPhone is the

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<v Speaker 3>best value that you can get for any of it,

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<v Speaker 3>which is why my wife got it. And the Air,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't know where that lines up

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<v Speaker 3>besides your review that I watched. I don't understand what

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<v Speaker 3>the Air's function is when it's next to the iPhone

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen base model, which is why I want to live

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<v Speaker 3>with it for at least a month. Yeah, at least

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<v Speaker 3>through the holiday season, so I can better understand it,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I can, you know, formulate the opinion. But

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<v Speaker 3>that doesn't change the fact that I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 3>sticking with the seventeen Pro.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, perfect.

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<v Speaker 4>I enjoyed holding the Air when you had it, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I remember you were.

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<v Speaker 1>You kept saying, I'm impressed by the design. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want one, but I'm impressed.

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<v Speaker 2>Ie flirted with it for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like Apple in a nutshell.

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<v Speaker 4>All the camera was it sixteen or eight or twelve lenses?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like having fifty seven lenses in your pocket because

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<v Speaker 1>you can zoom in.

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<v Speaker 2>At like fifty seven different intervals.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, So still slightly blurry on photos by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>I take photos like this looks a little bit better

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<v Speaker 4>than the fourteen, but.

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<v Speaker 3>You're holding it wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what'd you Carter have to do with this?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's a good question for the panel. Why do

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<v Speaker 1>you think Apple made the air? What's the rationale behind it?

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<v Speaker 4>My theory is that they're gonna put two airs together,

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<v Speaker 4>okay and make a fold, So it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Purely a manufacturing exercise.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you think the air will still be around

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<v Speaker 1>when the fold comes?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they can't eliminate all of them on earth, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>they just they take them all back and crush them

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<v Speaker 4>like GM.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be great, ev one. Yeah, they're at least.

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<v Speaker 5>Why I don't want to work with GM, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, there's a reason why I don't like them.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care what they do with the bolt.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a conversation for another podcast, and you take that name.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of your day.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, j John Turner, that's his story for another day.

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<v Speaker 3>Are soon to be next CEO?

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<v Speaker 1>You better be careful. We gotta yeah, we gotta respect

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<v Speaker 1>the turn us. He's taking over soon. I think turn out.

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<v Speaker 3>Turna wait, wait your turn us.

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<v Speaker 2>So we gone back to the sixteen we kind of jumped.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we're talking about the phone now that I'm over

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<v Speaker 3>the sixteen E.

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<v Speaker 5>That that was first half of the year problems.

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<v Speaker 2>The question was why did Apple make the air?

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<v Speaker 3>That was a question, and that was the question.

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<v Speaker 2>You know your your explanation. Do you agree, Randy? What's Randy?

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<v Speaker 3>I do feel it's not solely an exercise of manufacturing,

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<v Speaker 3>but I do think that's an element is to gauge

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<v Speaker 3>one the stressors that they do on the back end

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<v Speaker 3>to produce these things as well as and not just

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<v Speaker 3>like four I'm talking. I'm talking about that too. See

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<v Speaker 3>one x uh, the.

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<v Speaker 5>The plateau, the housing of the plateau.

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<v Speaker 1>I went and saw that coming one with the sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>E and then one x months later.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>That that feels like the iPad.

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<v Speaker 3>That feels like the iPad when they did thirty pen

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<v Speaker 3>and then six months later, lightning different.

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<v Speaker 5>So how often do you guys think about the Roman Empire.

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<v Speaker 2>Daily? One? X is my Roman Empire? Put that in

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<v Speaker 2>the sixteen? I don't care. It wasn't read the Roman

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<v Speaker 2>Empire in the sixteen? Yeah, I don't care. So do

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<v Speaker 2>you think.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an exercise in manufacturing but also partly facilitate.

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<v Speaker 3>The C one partly there there because this is the

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<v Speaker 3>first I believe this is the first device that's completely

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<v Speaker 3>all in house with connectivity. Everything's done in house, and

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<v Speaker 3>the air minus, like some of the aesthetic or compromises

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<v Speaker 3>that they went with, is a Gen one stress tester,

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<v Speaker 3>which like the like the regular or the OG two

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<v Speaker 3>g iPhone or the iPad. There was things. There was

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of noticeable compromises with the first product, but

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<v Speaker 3>then the second one was instantly like that. So I

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<v Speaker 3>do believe that we will get another iPhone air at

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<v Speaker 3>least one more year. I don't know what happens after

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<v Speaker 3>the twentieth anniversary. That part is up in the air,

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<v Speaker 3>but I do think we'll get it again next year

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<v Speaker 3>because typically under at least Tim Cook's reign, assuming he

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<v Speaker 3>is still around by twenty twenty six.

439
00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:10.000
<v Speaker 5>No product only has a one year life.

440
00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:12.000
<v Speaker 3>So even if it knows is not performing well, we

441
00:24:12.079 --> 00:24:18.599
<v Speaker 3>had twelve minis, had one fourteen, fourteen plus, fifteen plus.

442
00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:23.680
<v Speaker 3>Uh actually deven did sixteen plus. Even though things he's

443
00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:30.920
<v Speaker 3>selling well, I said, the mini's already they had. I know,

444
00:24:31.000 --> 00:24:31.920
<v Speaker 3>we got to have our thing.

445
00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:34.680
<v Speaker 5>Let's put it.

446
00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:37.480
<v Speaker 3>Put our listening ears on children.

447
00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:41.000
<v Speaker 1>It's been so long, I'm rusty. I couldn't even remember

448
00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:42.440
<v Speaker 1>when air punts Pro too launched.

449
00:24:43.079 --> 00:24:45.480
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, and you're the apple sheep you.

450
00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:50.079
<v Speaker 2>Every day. I don't even have a seventeen like the

451
00:24:50.079 --> 00:24:50.480
<v Speaker 2>rest of you.

452
00:24:51.640 --> 00:24:53.279
<v Speaker 3>Who is this poser?

453
00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:56.240
<v Speaker 4>I've been tying the guy in my house this whole time,

454
00:24:56.279 --> 00:24:57.039
<v Speaker 4>and he's not leaving.

455
00:24:57.519 --> 00:24:59.720
<v Speaker 3>I do think, I do think that the air is

456
00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:04.559
<v Speaker 3>a precursor is a folding phone though, So yeah, for

457
00:25:04.680 --> 00:25:07.400
<v Speaker 3>all things considering, that's I think. I think the lineup

458
00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:10.720
<v Speaker 3>is going to look something more like iPhone fold, iPhone Air,

459
00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:15.720
<v Speaker 3>iPhone Pro, bas iPhone number and I think that's what

460
00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:17.799
<v Speaker 3>that's more or less going to look like and env

461
00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:22.079
<v Speaker 3>But now I guess in twenty twenty six we're not

462
00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:26.279
<v Speaker 3>going to get an iPhone eighteen that was that's if

463
00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:28.599
<v Speaker 3>the rumors are true, that the deployment of that is

464
00:25:28.640 --> 00:25:31.160
<v Speaker 3>going to get pushed to be more aligned with the

465
00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:35.000
<v Speaker 3>iPhone blank E and then the base model of the

466
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<v Speaker 3>same blank however.

467
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<v Speaker 4>Blank Everyone's kids just perked up right there.

468
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<v Speaker 2>So that's a good theory. Though.

469
00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:49.920
<v Speaker 3>The fall, the fall timeline, in my opinion, is going

470
00:25:49.960 --> 00:25:53.519
<v Speaker 3>to consist of a fold, an air and a pro

471
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<v Speaker 3>and then from anniversary something or whatever more again that

472
00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:01.920
<v Speaker 3>that's that's.

473
00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:08.759
<v Speaker 2>My suspectly expensive iPhones next year for the holidays is expensive.

474
00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:11.759
<v Speaker 2>The only one that's expensive is the base one. The

475
00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Air will be the cheapest one.

476
00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:17.880
<v Speaker 3>I okay, yeah, do you guys think here's my theory,

477
00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:20.920
<v Speaker 3>and I want your guys to feedback. I think the

478
00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:23.400
<v Speaker 3>Air is going to be the new standard. That's going

479
00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:27.240
<v Speaker 3>to be the new iPhone uh out the way iPhone

480
00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:32.319
<v Speaker 3>ten became iPhone eleven ten are as well. But like

481
00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:35.119
<v Speaker 3>I think the design language of how thin it is

482
00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:37.880
<v Speaker 3>and everything's done in the house, the Air will have

483
00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:40.559
<v Speaker 3>its air and then you'll have the iPhone take on

484
00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:43.519
<v Speaker 3>that form factor no different. Then there's really no difference

485
00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:46.839
<v Speaker 3>between an iPad AIR and an iPad when you do

486
00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:49.680
<v Speaker 3>a side by side from aesthetics, a loan I think

487
00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:52.839
<v Speaker 3>that's what's gonna start happening with design language, and the

488
00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:56.440
<v Speaker 3>air is launching pad to that, and assuming all goes

489
00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:59.240
<v Speaker 3>well with all these reviewers who aren't keeping the phone,

490
00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:04.000
<v Speaker 3>that that that's that's what we're heading with it, and

491
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:08.440
<v Speaker 3>it's it's gonna be so synonymous with Apple being luxury,

492
00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:11.440
<v Speaker 3>jewelry and everything all things that is make it Apple

493
00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:14.200
<v Speaker 3>tax that they'll take that form factor and then make

494
00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:16.119
<v Speaker 3>that part of the fold as well. So I think

495
00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:18.599
<v Speaker 3>that design language will exist for the masses and the

496
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:22.240
<v Speaker 3>pros will continue to just be pro by design function

497
00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:23.200
<v Speaker 3>over form.

498
00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:25.319
<v Speaker 4>I think people are going to be riding the streets

499
00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:28.400
<v Speaker 4>over losing six to eight lenses on their phone.

500
00:27:28.920 --> 00:27:32.839
<v Speaker 2>That's lenses that's.

501
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:36.599
<v Speaker 1>Off right, That's another way of looking at it. So

502
00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:41.880
<v Speaker 1>does that mean the base model would be titanium?

503
00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:48.640
<v Speaker 2>That feels wrong? I know, I don't. Maybe it won't

504
00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:50.519
<v Speaker 2>stay No, maybe no.

505
00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:53.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it will stay titanium. My brain went

506
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:55.480
<v Speaker 3>to the iPhone ten R that.

507
00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:59.079
<v Speaker 2>Was illuminum, but it wasn't that. It wasn't so thick.

508
00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the titanium is kind of key to

509
00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:04.400
<v Speaker 1>hitting that thinness.

510
00:28:05.319 --> 00:28:10.640
<v Speaker 3>I suspect aluminum. Maybe they'll incorporate whatever new design is

511
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:14.119
<v Speaker 3>happening here to a certain caliber where it's so sturdy.

512
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:17.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Bending is their focus point when it

513
00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:24.720
<v Speaker 3>comes to a thicker A thicker profit margin is what

514
00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:27.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to get at. I don't feel like I

515
00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:32.559
<v Speaker 3>don't feel like the aluminum by like where I'm getting asked,

516
00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:36.200
<v Speaker 3>you could not bend the twelve Mini and the thirteen Mini,

517
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:37.960
<v Speaker 3>and those were aluminium. Those were the smallest, and those

518
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:42.400
<v Speaker 3>were your most potential. The plus size aluminums also weren't

519
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:46.160
<v Speaker 3>really bendable if you try really really hard. Yes, more

520
00:28:46.599 --> 00:28:49.240
<v Speaker 3>susceptible to bending than the titanium of the air, but

521
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:51.640
<v Speaker 3>like you really got to get in there and be

522
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:53.559
<v Speaker 3>a Jerry rig Everything.

523
00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:58.640
<v Speaker 4>Or whatever it was in the days of the iPhone six.

524
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:00.519
<v Speaker 3>Are done.

525
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:03.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm waiting for the plastic ones to come back. The

526
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:09.839
<v Speaker 2>five E is the c Yeah, bring that back with

527
00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:14.240
<v Speaker 2>the new air. Oh that'd be cool. Yeah, I'd like

528
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:16.279
<v Speaker 2>that more color. That's my whole thing.

529
00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:20.000
<v Speaker 5>So stay on that trail with me for a second.

530
00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:22.720
<v Speaker 3>Do you guys, do you not believe then that that

531
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:27.400
<v Speaker 3>form factor will take on the base model iPhones as well?

532
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:28.759
<v Speaker 3>You think it's just going to stay as the air

533
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:30.920
<v Speaker 3>then or what do you think?

534
00:29:31.480 --> 00:29:34.400
<v Speaker 2>It's a good question.

535
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:36.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't ask questions.

536
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:41.279
<v Speaker 1>My suspicion, knowing how Apple tends to do things, is

537
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:45.599
<v Speaker 1>kind of how the sixteen E phased out the SE.

538
00:29:46.319 --> 00:29:48.799
<v Speaker 1>Remember how we kept expecting the SE to come back

539
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:50.920
<v Speaker 1>and then it just went away in favor of Well,

540
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:53.400
<v Speaker 1>but this one's so much better. It's O lad, it's

541
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:55.119
<v Speaker 1>face I D. There's no more.

542
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:56.759
<v Speaker 3>Homebody Apple intelligence.

543
00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>It's got a I right, but it's all so like

544
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:06.279
<v Speaker 1>two hundred dollars more. My suspicion is that there's gonna

545
00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:10.720
<v Speaker 1>be too much overlap in not twenty twenty six, but

546
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty seven. We're allegedly getting the eighteen regular

547
00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>and the eighteen E around the same time. So like

548
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:24.240
<v Speaker 1>one will be one hundred and twenty hertz with two

549
00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>cameras on the back, and one will be one camera,

550
00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe no mag safe and no one hundred and twenty herts,

551
00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:34.000
<v Speaker 1>and there will be such a big price gap between

552
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:38.240
<v Speaker 1>those two that most will go for the cheaper one

553
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>because the most people are stupid, And then the regular

554
00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>base model will get phased out, and the idea of

555
00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:50.279
<v Speaker 1>having a sub one thousand dollars iPhone with a dual camera.

556
00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:54.000
<v Speaker 1>My guess is that's gonna go away, and they're gonna

557
00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:58.839
<v Speaker 1>slowly inch up the pricing ladder and just the E

558
00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:02.480
<v Speaker 1>will will stick aroun but not the regular, So you'll

559
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:08.240
<v Speaker 1>have long term you'll have like iPhone twenty pro, twenty

560
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:08.960
<v Speaker 1>pro Max.

561
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:10.400
<v Speaker 2>There will be an.

562
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:14.759
<v Speaker 1>Air maybe if people keep buying it, there will be

563
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:18.359
<v Speaker 1>an iPhone, a folding iPhone which I think they'll call Ultra,

564
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>and then the regular model will just become the E

565
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>and it'll be one camera and it'll.

566
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Have sixty hertz and then we'll be back in this.

567
00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Why does it have to be E? Economy efficiency?

568
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:35.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but why have the either that's so unclean? Just

569
00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:36.519
<v Speaker 4>nothing after it?

570
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Just because then you have to say regular or base anyway. Yeah,

571
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:44.799
<v Speaker 1>it's like if I said, if I said, oh, yeah,

572
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:49.240
<v Speaker 1>Mike has an iPhone seventeen, but that's technically not true.

573
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:51.799
<v Speaker 2>You have a seventeen pro yea.

574
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:54.880
<v Speaker 4>If I don't have a seventeen Yeah, but if I could.

575
00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:58.319
<v Speaker 1>Refer to it as he does not have a seventeen E,

576
00:31:58.839 --> 00:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>he has a seventeen pro. Oh, that's technically like fewer

577
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:07.440
<v Speaker 1>letters and syllables than saying base or a regular, because

578
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:10.759
<v Speaker 1>that's what people come up with their own suffix. Anyway,

579
00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:13.799
<v Speaker 1>if you don't attach one to it, people will say.

580
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:16.440
<v Speaker 4>Like subtracting range from the word standard range.

581
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:23.119
<v Speaker 2>So standard, yeah, exactly, the base the regular. Yeah, so

582
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:25.720
<v Speaker 2>now you're adding something instead of subtracting something.

583
00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I just don't see a scenario in which, like we

584
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:29.960
<v Speaker 1>get six iPhones a year.

585
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:31.200
<v Speaker 2>No, that sounds ridiculous.

586
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think something's gonna get phased out. Either it's

587
00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:36.640
<v Speaker 1>the air or it's the regular. My guess is it's

588
00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:38.240
<v Speaker 1>going to be the regular, and then the E will

589
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:40.119
<v Speaker 1>stick around. Is the cheaper model.

590
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:42.920
<v Speaker 4>My oppression is that the E just comes and goes

591
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:46.880
<v Speaker 4>as it pleases. Okay, I think that's just the Christmas

592
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:49.119
<v Speaker 4>special that comes not on Christmas.

593
00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:52.440
<v Speaker 2>Kind of like this, yeah, okay, sorry, what you're gonna know?

594
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:52.880
<v Speaker 2>You're good?

595
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:55.799
<v Speaker 3>You're good, You're good. I feel something is going to

596
00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:57.319
<v Speaker 3>get phased out, but I think it's going to be

597
00:32:57.319 --> 00:32:57.880
<v Speaker 3>the Promax.

598
00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:03.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, please know that's the best selling pro a

599
00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:04.319
<v Speaker 1>bigger one.

600
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:09.480
<v Speaker 3>The one that takes its slot is this new twentieth

601
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:14.400
<v Speaker 3>anniversary folding, Like whatever is happening that's going to upsell

602
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:18.720
<v Speaker 3>because here's my thing. Here's my thing. Apple has gone

603
00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:25.559
<v Speaker 3>this long without price increases, and I think we're going

604
00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:28.279
<v Speaker 3>to get a jumpin price the way we did with

605
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:30.880
<v Speaker 3>the iPhone ten. And I think it's going to be

606
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:33.839
<v Speaker 3>a fifteen or seventeen hundred dollars or even a two

607
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:39.119
<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars iPhone. I believe the folding iPhone, this ultra

608
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:42.079
<v Speaker 3>that you might want to call it, is going to

609
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:43.119
<v Speaker 3>be the.

610
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:49.119
<v Speaker 5>Priciest one because it's the most versatile, and I feel

611
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:50.319
<v Speaker 5>people who go.

612
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:54.000
<v Speaker 3>Towards that are the same demographics that go towards the

613
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:57.759
<v Speaker 3>pro maxes. And if you drop the pro max for

614
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:01.000
<v Speaker 3>something that's giving you just as much more screen, real estate,

615
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:05.200
<v Speaker 3>more battery, more everything, then that's the one that goes away.

616
00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:08.760
<v Speaker 3>So now the lineup would looks something like iPhone nineteen,

617
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:15.199
<v Speaker 3>e iPhone Air, iPhone, folding whatever, and I phone fro.

618
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:23.000
<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, my Apple sheep muscles are slowly coming back,

619
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:27.719
<v Speaker 1>because I here's why I disagree from what's been from

620
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:34.199
<v Speaker 1>what's been rumored of the harder of the folding iPhone,

621
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:41.119
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to match the promax in camera it's

622
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:45.000
<v Speaker 1>rumored to be on the folding model, an ultra wide

623
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:49.119
<v Speaker 1>and a main but not a telephoto, and it's rumored

624
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:54.079
<v Speaker 1>to have a fingerprint scanner on the side, not face ID.

625
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:56.039
<v Speaker 2>I like that, so some.

626
00:34:56.119 --> 00:34:58.519
<v Speaker 1>People might prefer that, but it's kind of a toss

627
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:01.800
<v Speaker 1>up on you know, which one, and I think most

628
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:04.079
<v Speaker 1>of us would agree the folding iPhone will probably be

629
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:08.039
<v Speaker 1>the most expensive, right, like, yeah, you've got double the screen.

630
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:15.800
<v Speaker 3>I am wholeheartedly inconvenienced in that the unification of software

631
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:18.400
<v Speaker 3>is to prep for this folding phone that's going to

632
00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 3>do an iPad os iOS combo, while we eventually want

633
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:27.480
<v Speaker 3>to get these wearables that are going to mimic Vision

634
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:32.679
<v Speaker 3>Pro but not in Vision Pro, just be Vision os Light.

635
00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:36.079
<v Speaker 3>So I think what's happening is all this software is

636
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:41.239
<v Speaker 3>converging to where if the design language is the same

637
00:35:41.400 --> 00:35:43.360
<v Speaker 3>and the interactions and how you engage with it is

638
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:47.280
<v Speaker 3>more and less the same, then the hardware is the

639
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:50.679
<v Speaker 3>only true variable. For the most part, you have the

640
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:54.920
<v Speaker 3>twenty to twenty five percent of like, oh, well telephoto,

641
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:57.960
<v Speaker 3>if you want an Apple pencil, if you like, There

642
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:01.480
<v Speaker 3>are outliners there, but for your your your main drivers here,

643
00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:07.920
<v Speaker 3>I think with the software being so all unified, the

644
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:12.360
<v Speaker 3>best Gen. One test subject will be that folding phone

645
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:14.519
<v Speaker 3>to see how that works, where we might get Apple's

646
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:16.239
<v Speaker 3>version of Apple Decks or what if they call Stage

647
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:19.760
<v Speaker 3>Manager or whatever they want to call it, and that's

648
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:21.840
<v Speaker 3>that's going to be the all in one device that

649
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:25.039
<v Speaker 3>people have begged for for years that Apple.

650
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:26.880
<v Speaker 5>Is like, yes, now here you go.

651
00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:32.079
<v Speaker 3>There is virtually no difference between iPad os and iOS

652
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:34.679
<v Speaker 3>except the fact that they want to give all of

653
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:38.440
<v Speaker 3>those Mac like features to the iPad os and it

654
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:40.760
<v Speaker 3>only makes sense when you have a bigger screen, real styere.

655
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<v Speaker 3>We have multiple windows or multiple apps or whatever you

656
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<v Speaker 3>want to call them, and all the things that they've

657
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:48.199
<v Speaker 3>been testing out now with iOS twenty six is laying

658
00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:52.400
<v Speaker 3>that foundation for habit and repetition and getting familiar with it.

659
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<v Speaker 3>So when this folding phone comes out, that is that's

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<v Speaker 3>the new and what I feel is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>the new Pro, but not call it a PRO because

662
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:05.199
<v Speaker 3>we associate pro with camera battery and up until this

663
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:11.440
<v Speaker 3>year promotion. Now Pro to me is all things GPU

664
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<v Speaker 3>with as much cameras that you could throw at it,

665
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:18.719
<v Speaker 3>chalk it out, make it the best battery possible, do

666
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:22.199
<v Speaker 3>everything that you can on the Pro that compromises off

667
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:28.480
<v Speaker 3>form for function. But the folding phone is that design

668
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:31.760
<v Speaker 3>is not just how, it's how you use it.

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<v Speaker 5>The form is the function, and the function is the form.

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00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:35.760
<v Speaker 2>With the folding fits how it works.

671
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:40.639
<v Speaker 3>It just works. And honestly, I think if John Turnas

672
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:43.159
<v Speaker 3>is really in my head slightly still thinking about this

673
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:46.400
<v Speaker 3>new CEO thing that's happening, I don't think anything that

674
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<v Speaker 3>we're familiar with over the last ten years with Apple

675
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:51.920
<v Speaker 3>will function the same way under this new leadership. And

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00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:54.599
<v Speaker 3>I think that's too Apple's I think that's the betterment

677
00:37:54.639 --> 00:37:57.519
<v Speaker 3>of Apple and how they do product releases and software

678
00:37:57.519 --> 00:37:59.440
<v Speaker 3>releases and stuff like that, because I think we can

679
00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:02.679
<v Speaker 3>all agree the hardware has for a very long time

680
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:05.519
<v Speaker 3>been on points. Software is what's been lagging. Sorry Craig,

681
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:08.559
<v Speaker 3>you're not gonna get the job, but hardware has been

682
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:13.280
<v Speaker 3>fiity and take that same energy and trickle down to

683
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:17.119
<v Speaker 3>services and everything else like that too. That's the Apple.

684
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:21.519
<v Speaker 3>I think that's the vision of new innovation we will see,

685
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:23.719
<v Speaker 3>and it really has to just do with how we

686
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:26.119
<v Speaker 3>choose to engage with all these devices. Apple Watch will

687
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<v Speaker 3>be exactly the same, no changes on the Apple Watch.

688
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<v Speaker 1>Every figured they've figured it all out.

689
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:36.440
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing to add.

690
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:38.039
<v Speaker 3>They figured it out seven years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Drew, mm hmm, oh, go ahead.

692
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<v Speaker 1>I think you're wrong because for the exact reason you're

693
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<v Speaker 1>not gonna rock a base iPhone seventeen. We're gonna keep

694
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<v Speaker 1>calling it that while we can. You want a telephoto

695
00:38:57.400 --> 00:38:59.599
<v Speaker 1>lens and guess what, the folding phone's not.

696
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<v Speaker 2>Gonna have.

697
00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:06.400
<v Speaker 3>Never say never, maybe not the first gen. I really

698
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<v Speaker 3>feel like, uh, I don't think telephoto is as important

699
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:17.800
<v Speaker 3>out of all the lenses. But yeah, but what.

700
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<v Speaker 1>But you're not rocking the base model for no one

701
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<v Speaker 1>specific reason.

702
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<v Speaker 3>To two specific reasons, Apple logue, telephone, the log. I

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00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:31.840
<v Speaker 3>use telephoto more way wait, wait, way more. The only

704
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<v Speaker 3>time I ever used log is when I'm making the

705
00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:36.400
<v Speaker 3>content and so block out an hour of a twenty

706
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:38.199
<v Speaker 3>four hour day. Everything else is telephoto.

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00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:43.280
<v Speaker 2>But people get log on the folding phone.

708
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:48.719
<v Speaker 3>That's something worth considering. But here's the thing, Like I I,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel the sensors are just gonna keep getting improved

710
00:39:51.639 --> 00:39:58.880
<v Speaker 3>to where telephoto won't be telephoto, it will be this uh.

711
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Seventeen lenses, periscope, periscope.

712
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:07.480
<v Speaker 3>I feel like the we can only you know true depth,

713
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:11.760
<v Speaker 3>optical we can only do that right now, we stay

714
00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:16.519
<v Speaker 3>at two for everything because everything's forty eight megapixels, but

715
00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:22.280
<v Speaker 3>that we're peak megapixels at this point. Everything has a

716
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<v Speaker 3>to function for each lens ultra wide, macro wide, ankle

717
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:35.400
<v Speaker 3>two x zoom, which for years was telephoto. Then you

718
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<v Speaker 3>have telephoto and you have bigger telephoto, and all of

719
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:43.880
<v Speaker 3>them are in increments of two steps, so point five

720
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<v Speaker 3>times two.

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<v Speaker 5>Now you got you're moving up one one to shoot or.

722
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<v Speaker 3>To eight, and then after eight it's all just straight

723
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<v Speaker 3>uh digital zooms and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 5>There's nothing to optical about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't feel like Apple can do anymore with the

726
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:04.360
<v Speaker 3>cameras now, and that's intentional, as we are ending this

727
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:05.400
<v Speaker 3>era of iPhone.

728
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<v Speaker 9>This is whether you like it or hate it. This

729
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:16.760
<v Speaker 9>is peat dad bod. This is the optical father form

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<v Speaker 9>for mail.

731
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<v Speaker 3>And I believe that we can't we can't use all

732
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:27.960
<v Speaker 3>my body. We can't do any more with the cameras.

733
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<v Speaker 3>So where we make those improvements is in all these

734
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:36.519
<v Speaker 3>fake zooming capabilities that has some post processing, a pipeline

735
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:39.159
<v Speaker 3>that it goes through to you know, have be lossless.

736
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<v Speaker 3>Blah blah blah blah blah blah, who cares. I don't

737
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:45.840
<v Speaker 3>think you need a telephoto the way we're using telephotos now.

738
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:47.840
<v Speaker 3>I use the sucker so I can look at the

739
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:50.480
<v Speaker 3>top of mountains and stuff like that, not because let

740
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:52.559
<v Speaker 3>me get that good portrait shout of you. That's what

741
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:57.400
<v Speaker 3>the main sensor is for. That's ninety nine percent of

742
00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:00.360
<v Speaker 3>people who have that stuff. One of the other one

743
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:04.840
<v Speaker 3>percent is people who live in Colorado. You were going

744
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:06.639
<v Speaker 3>to say something and then yeah, what's up?

745
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:09.400
<v Speaker 4>Like, Oh, I was gonna go the whole different path.

746
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:11.679
<v Speaker 4>I was happy that you said you're wrong. And here's

747
00:42:11.719 --> 00:42:14.280
<v Speaker 4>why he's more entertaining than what I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh good, I do. I do still use my telephoto,

749
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:23.199
<v Speaker 1>which is a five X, not a.

750
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:26.559
<v Speaker 2>Four which is not what the new one is for.

751
00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a four X, but it's a forty eight

752
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:33.239
<v Speaker 1>megapixel four X, whereas mine is a twelve megapixel five X.

753
00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:36.519
<v Speaker 1>But most of the time you're not taking what do

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00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:43.719
<v Speaker 1>you call it full res uh res max? What the

755
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:46.800
<v Speaker 1>the option you'd go in settings where it actually takes

756
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:48.559
<v Speaker 1>a forty eight megapixel picture.

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00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Usually you can do it with raw, but it's not

758
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<v Speaker 2>exclusively braw.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you're talking about heath.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Max Heath, max heats.

761
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:02.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at it right now.

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<v Speaker 2>H E high efficiency image.

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<v Speaker 3>No, h E.

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<v Speaker 2>I c oh codec. It's one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh go ahead, I will say, especially when I'm at

766
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:20.119
<v Speaker 1>work taking all kinds of pictures of.

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00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:26.000
<v Speaker 2>That's a wonderful photo at work. A specific road like

768
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:29.719
<v Speaker 2>this is probably a good example. Yeah, this is the telephoto.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I saw it on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a portrait mode shot. If people Boka doesn't

771
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:45.119
<v Speaker 1>like it, there you go, thank you, Mike. But I

772
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:49.760
<v Speaker 1>personally think the Boka portrait mode shots look best the

773
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:51.039
<v Speaker 1>further away you can get.

774
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:54.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you taught me that the other day. Oh yeah,

775
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:57.880
<v Speaker 2>we were at the I haven't used portrait mode ever.

776
00:43:58.519 --> 00:43:59.719
<v Speaker 2>Was like, have you heard of portrait mode?

777
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, now, because there was a stack of pumpkins.

778
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:07.039
<v Speaker 1>We were like, we were there with our wives. It's like,

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00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:12.000
<v Speaker 1>let's get pictures. But yeah, but it's like, how do

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<v Speaker 1>we get the pumpkins to fill the entire background when

781
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:17.599
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of people and we can't get too

782
00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:20.400
<v Speaker 1>close or whatever. It was like, well, you just back

783
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:23.440
<v Speaker 1>up a ton and then zoom way in and now

784
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:25.480
<v Speaker 1>this small thing that if you tried to do it

785
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:26.559
<v Speaker 1>on the one X lens.

786
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:28.039
<v Speaker 2>It would have looked lame.

787
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:30.880
<v Speaker 1>It would have been like, we're standing here, here's a

788
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<v Speaker 1>tiny pile of pumpkins behind us, and then a parking lot.

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<v Speaker 2>But instead you narrow the what do you call it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, focal compression. Thank you, Randy, And that came out great.

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00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Those shots were someone did a very cool so side tangent.

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<v Speaker 4>I was scrolling Instagram the other day and someone was

793
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:54.880
<v Speaker 4>doing a really neat thing with that. Or some viewers

794
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:58.360
<v Speaker 4>or listeners might know this, or I've seen it. This

795
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:00.880
<v Speaker 4>guy's on top of a mountain and like there's another

796
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:03.880
<v Speaker 4>mountain way far away, and then he starts kind of

797
00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:04.760
<v Speaker 4>pulling it in.

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00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Like he's got a rope on it.

799
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<v Speaker 4>But what the cameraman does is he starts like pretty

800
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<v Speaker 4>much hiking it backward as fast as he can, back

801
00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:14.400
<v Speaker 4>pedaling while keeping the guy in the shot, and then

802
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<v Speaker 4>changing the field of view so that way that the

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<v Speaker 4>mountain goes from really far away and starts coming or

804
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:25.280
<v Speaker 4>appears to start coming closer and closer and closer, like

805
00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:26.599
<v Speaker 4>the guy is pulling it.

806
00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:27.119
<v Speaker 2>With the rope.

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<v Speaker 4>So that was a really great demonstration.

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00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:33.360
<v Speaker 3>Of how that works in one of his music videos

809
00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:36.360
<v Speaker 3>where he's he looks like he's growing and he's shrinking

810
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:37.880
<v Speaker 3>to the background of what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, go back to the Jaws movie. Isn't that the original?

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<v Speaker 1>They're like they put the camera on a dolly and

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00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:51.960
<v Speaker 1>as they as they move the No, as they move

814
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:54.840
<v Speaker 1>the camera away from Rob Schneider.

815
00:45:55.639 --> 00:45:56.199
<v Speaker 2>No, it's.

816
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:03.199
<v Speaker 1>Something the protogonists. They zoom in simultaneously and.

817
00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:06.480
<v Speaker 2>It narrows that depth.

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00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:09.719
<v Speaker 1>And it just it's trippy. It's a good effect. But

819
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<v Speaker 1>all that to say, I guess my running thesis is

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00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't think the folding phone's going to replace the

821
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Promax because I don't think most people are going to

822
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:22.159
<v Speaker 1>prefer it, even though in many ways it will be

823
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:23.639
<v Speaker 1>like the best of the best, because.

824
00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:25.760
<v Speaker 2>It's got two screens, and it's got touch Idea again,

825
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:28.960
<v Speaker 2>and it's got ipedos or a version of it on

826
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:30.039
<v Speaker 2>the inside. I think that.

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<v Speaker 1>What's really taught me to be skeptical is when I've

828
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:39.400
<v Speaker 1>reviewed folding phones in the past, people don't want to

829
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:42.679
<v Speaker 1>have two different ways of using something, and that's why

830
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:47.480
<v Speaker 1>the landscape home screen has died. Like on the iPhone

831
00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:49.920
<v Speaker 1>eight plus and seven plus, he used to be able

832
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:52.159
<v Speaker 1>to use it in landscape. They got rid of that.

833
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:59.239
<v Speaker 1>And also, vertical video is booming these days because people

834
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<v Speaker 1>don't even have the energy to do this.

835
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:03.320
<v Speaker 2>No, that's too much work.

836
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:05.519
<v Speaker 1>They would rather be on their phone this way and

837
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:09.280
<v Speaker 1>just scroll and have the video be optimized for this orientation,

838
00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:12.119
<v Speaker 1>simply so they can avoid doing this. So the idea

839
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<v Speaker 1>that people are going to get comfortable unfolding.

840
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:19.159
<v Speaker 4>I think it's for a different demographic. But you do

841
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<v Speaker 4>have a point with the fact that now on the

842
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:25.199
<v Speaker 4>seventeen pros there's now a square sensor in there.

843
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Is it on the regular as well? Yeah, they all

844
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:28.079
<v Speaker 2>got it.

845
00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:30.480
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so instead of being rectangular, square, so you don't

846
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:32.880
<v Speaker 4>even have to turn your phone sideways for a selfie.

847
00:47:33.159 --> 00:47:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Yep, that's another example. It's like, that's too much work.

848
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:37.360
<v Speaker 2>Don't make me do this.

849
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:39.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, just hold it vertically, which I thought that

850
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:43.760
<v Speaker 4>was the same case for the back camera sensors.

851
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:46.000
<v Speaker 2>But oh, that would have been cool. You can do it.

852
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:49.679
<v Speaker 1>And I remember pitching that I probably don't have the

853
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<v Speaker 1>video ready, but I remember.

854
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Go away back, I remember right here, Drew right.

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00:47:56.880 --> 00:47:59.360
<v Speaker 1>I just remember there was a time where I hated

856
00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:01.960
<v Speaker 1>vertical video with a passion, and I was like, oh, yeah,

857
00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:05.039
<v Speaker 1>I was making a phone. I would make the sensor

858
00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:08.760
<v Speaker 1>square so that it would be impossible to film things

859
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:10.000
<v Speaker 1>in vertical.

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00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:15.280
<v Speaker 2>This isn't exactly that. The opposite, Well, this is like you.

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00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Can switch to landscape without having to move the phone.

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00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:22.480
<v Speaker 1>My idea was that if you film this way, it's landscape.

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00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:25.239
<v Speaker 1>If you film this way, it's also landscape. If you

864
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:26.760
<v Speaker 1>don't want landscape, screw you.

865
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:28.719
<v Speaker 4>I did that with my wife and I said, did

866
00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:29.519
<v Speaker 4>you know that's why I did?

867
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:31.679
<v Speaker 2>And she said, no, what did you do?

868
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:34.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, look now it's wide viewer, it's landscape.

869
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:35.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

870
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:38.440
<v Speaker 2>She's like, oh, okay, same story here.

871
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:41.239
<v Speaker 3>Did you film or take a photo photo?

872
00:48:42.159 --> 00:48:44.639
<v Speaker 2>That's my film? Oh?

873
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:47.880
<v Speaker 4>Is it more dynamic if it suddenly goes to video.

874
00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:50.119
<v Speaker 2>No, it's the same.

875
00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:52.760
<v Speaker 5>It's still square sensor.

876
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:54.280
<v Speaker 2>It's still square.

877
00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:57.320
<v Speaker 1>But what was handy was, as you could probably tell,

878
00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:00.199
<v Speaker 1>I've been filming in the car a lit no what

879
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:06.719
<v Speaker 1>exclusively and not having to hold the phone like this

880
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:10.199
<v Speaker 1>as I was recording. Yeah, I could actually just hold

881
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:14.000
<v Speaker 1>it like this and it's still landscape. That actually felt

882
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:16.960
<v Speaker 1>more comfortable and more natural. The only problem was I

883
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:19.679
<v Speaker 1>kept wanting to look at the viewfinder, and it is

884
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:23.039
<v Speaker 1>much more noticeable when your eyes aren't looking at the center,

885
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:25.840
<v Speaker 1>when they're going down to the center of the phone,

886
00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:26.960
<v Speaker 1>whereas this way.

887
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:32.199
<v Speaker 4>It's on the same. There's no difference. Sorry, there's no

888
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:33.239
<v Speaker 4>distance between.

889
00:49:33.599 --> 00:49:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Not vertically.

890
00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, left to right a little off if you're recording

891
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:39.800
<v Speaker 1>a video of yourself on the store.

892
00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:42.079
<v Speaker 4>Right now, I look at Randy than looking at us.

893
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just like a slight, slight difference. But when it's vertical, it's.

894
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Like, hey, guys, you know you're looking way down here,

895
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:52.159
<v Speaker 2>and it's more noticeable. But I did like it.

896
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:55.159
<v Speaker 1>That one time wasn't enough for me to justify keeping it,

897
00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:59.159
<v Speaker 1>because sixteen promacts is still going strong, and more importantly

898
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:01.360
<v Speaker 1>is on iOS eighteen.

899
00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:06.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh here we go. The monkey is saved the best

900
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:07.559
<v Speaker 3>for a last.

901
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:12.280
<v Speaker 2>Hey, gotta be more. I made to be fair.

902
00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:15.320
<v Speaker 4>I was the OG in this because I did not upgrade.

903
00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:19.000
<v Speaker 2>From you never iOS seventeen, or you were on seventeen

904
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:21.000
<v Speaker 2>and then you went straight to twenty six.

905
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:25.239
<v Speaker 4>So many versions of iOS.

906
00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:29.280
<v Speaker 1>It skipt like nine generations, but which I appreciated because

907
00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:31.320
<v Speaker 1>so many people told me, don't.

908
00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:32.679
<v Speaker 2>Go with the new iOS.

909
00:50:33.119 --> 00:50:36.000
<v Speaker 4>They ruined the photos app, and then now I'm on

910
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:40.800
<v Speaker 4>twenty six and actually, to be frank, there's not much

911
00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:45.440
<v Speaker 4>of a difference between iOS seventeen and iOS twenty six.

912
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:50.320
<v Speaker 10>I don't know if there's ever I don't know if

913
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:53.360
<v Speaker 10>there's ever been a difference in your mind, then if

914
00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:56.320
<v Speaker 10>the difference between seventeen and twenty six isn't that big,

915
00:50:57.000 --> 00:50:58.679
<v Speaker 10>there is no big iOS update.

916
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:03.559
<v Speaker 2>Yes that's Apple.

917
00:51:03.679 --> 00:51:06.639
<v Speaker 1>Mike could go from like iOS four because that's as

918
00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:11.760
<v Speaker 1>old as it went nerds all the way to twenty six.

919
00:51:11.599 --> 00:51:14.000
<v Speaker 2>And be like loser.

920
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:17.119
<v Speaker 3>A bad joke.

921
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:20.440
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't called iOS back then. Oh they used to

922
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:23.719
<v Speaker 1>call it, Frank, it was I think it was called

923
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:24.360
<v Speaker 1>OS ten.

924
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:27.079
<v Speaker 2>It was just on the phone.

925
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Steve Jobs, at the first iPhone on nailing it

926
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:32.639
<v Speaker 1>was iOS.

927
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:35.079
<v Speaker 2>It was iPhone iPhone OS.

928
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:37.800
<v Speaker 1>But at the very first unveiling you can fact check me,

929
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:40.360
<v Speaker 1>he said the iPhone runs OS ten.

930
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:44.400
<v Speaker 5>A modified version of OS ten is what he called it.

931
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Very slightly modified.

932
00:51:48.079 --> 00:51:52.239
<v Speaker 3>It's as slightly it's as slightly as we modify iPad os.

933
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:57.079
<v Speaker 3>But the reason why he said OS ten is because

934
00:51:57.159 --> 00:51:59.400
<v Speaker 3>iPad os was not a thing yet.

935
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:03.000
<v Speaker 1>So oh no, I wasn't the thing until after he

936
00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:10.599
<v Speaker 1>commit oofed commit oof what fruit he breathed with fruit

937
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:12.639
<v Speaker 1>cancer here.

938
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:18.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't want to get demonetized on my

939
00:52:18.679 --> 00:52:19.360
<v Speaker 2>dead channel.

940
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:25.079
<v Speaker 3>I am so cute. So what the the analytics are

941
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:26.039
<v Speaker 3>going to show out of this?

942
00:52:26.480 --> 00:52:29.000
<v Speaker 2>So anyways, you love iOS eighteen?

943
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:33.400
<v Speaker 1>No, I still hate it, but I don't get more

944
00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:38.280
<v Speaker 1>than Sorry, Craig, how do you like twenty six?

945
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:39.440
<v Speaker 3>I enjoy it?

946
00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Good, Randy? I like the bubbles. Do you like the bubbles?

947
00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Do you like the glassy feel?

948
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:52.360
<v Speaker 3>I love it everything about iOS twenty six everything, huh everything?

949
00:52:53.639 --> 00:52:56.320
<v Speaker 2>So bound, go ahead, go ahead, very.

950
00:52:56.199 --> 00:52:59.280
<v Speaker 3>Ask me put me in a category. I love it.

951
00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:02.559
<v Speaker 2>I just showed Mike that you can like swipe through

952
00:53:03.480 --> 00:53:06.079
<v Speaker 2>things like that. Sorry, just making sure.

953
00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:09.159
<v Speaker 5>You are gonna have you guys are gonna have a

954
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:09.800
<v Speaker 5>lot of fun.

955
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:12.840
<v Speaker 6>Uh.

956
00:53:14.239 --> 00:53:16.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm just going through modifications.

957
00:53:16.599 --> 00:53:19.199
<v Speaker 1>So I think this is what people were asking us

958
00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:19.960
<v Speaker 1>to fight about.

959
00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:22.840
<v Speaker 3>Okay, starting with the.

960
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Lock screen from the top, use case you got a

961
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:29.679
<v Speaker 2>side with Randy.

962
00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:33.880
<v Speaker 5>You can move, you can move all the all the compilations.

963
00:53:33.440 --> 00:53:36.199
<v Speaker 2>At the bottom.

964
00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:40.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying it out. I'm even doing it with the watch.

965
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:43.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm I wanted to see what the impact on battery

966
00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:46.800
<v Speaker 3>was going to look like and I don't notice anything.

967
00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:50.559
<v Speaker 3>So I figured, it's this is my first promotion with

968
00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:53.800
<v Speaker 3>always on display and everything, why not go crazy with it.

969
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:56.719
<v Speaker 3>But custom was.

970
00:53:56.800 --> 00:53:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Never about battery life.

971
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:03.639
<v Speaker 5>It's about it is about this rude off.

972
00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:06.920
<v Speaker 1>It's it's that when I shut that screen off, what

973
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:10.719
<v Speaker 1>I see is a reflection of myself knowing that this

974
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:12.760
<v Speaker 1>is an extension, not an accessory.

975
00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:15.559
<v Speaker 2>Sorry I'm quoting too much. Job.

976
00:54:17.239 --> 00:54:20.840
<v Speaker 4>I was thinking, Alfred and Alina, do you have the

977
00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:22.440
<v Speaker 4>power of the sun in the palm.

978
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Of your hand?

979
00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:27.480
<v Speaker 3>Look at you all grown up?

980
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:30.559
<v Speaker 2>With iOS twenty six.

981
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:35.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, with iOS twenty six. So so the lock screen,

982
00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:40.679
<v Speaker 3>starting with the lock screen it has the carousel, is

983
00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:43.800
<v Speaker 3>a better use of space. Now you can move all

984
00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:46.639
<v Speaker 3>the compilations down to the bottom, which now you can

985
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:51.199
<v Speaker 3>actually have compilations and depth of field with the timepiece,

986
00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:56.760
<v Speaker 3>I use a mountainous things. So you know that is

987
00:54:56.800 --> 00:55:04.599
<v Speaker 3>pritty purpose. It's a filler. But uh, everything about the

988
00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:08.320
<v Speaker 3>device now when it when it goes to engaging with

989
00:55:08.360 --> 00:55:16.159
<v Speaker 3>it feels it's it's the second version of iOS seven.

990
00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:19.480
<v Speaker 3>It's the second coming of iOS seven. Go ahead, and

991
00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:21.199
<v Speaker 3>I know there's a joke in there. Grab it.

992
00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Seven plus seven is not twenty six. Now six will

993
00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:28.920
<v Speaker 2>always feel weird.

994
00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:30.760
<v Speaker 5>It does really that there.

995
00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:33.000
<v Speaker 3>That's why I don't like about iOS twenty six, the name,

996
00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:35.440
<v Speaker 3>especially that.

997
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:37.800
<v Speaker 2>It was unveiled that dubbed UB twenty five.

998
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:40.559
<v Speaker 5>Which was in June. We weren't even halfway through the

999
00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:41.119
<v Speaker 5>year yet.

1000
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:46.239
<v Speaker 3>What day of June, early June, it doesn't matter, you're

1001
00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:47.599
<v Speaker 3>not halfway through the year until.

1002
00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:50.000
<v Speaker 2>July could be a leap yer.

1003
00:55:51.400 --> 00:56:03.199
<v Speaker 3>Still July. I like, I like the oh wow, yeah,

1004
00:56:03.239 --> 00:56:05.920
<v Speaker 3>you know what, screw it, let's let's just gloves off

1005
00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:06.599
<v Speaker 3>or just god.

1006
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:10.320
<v Speaker 5>I like the updates to AI that is on this phone.

1007
00:56:11.159 --> 00:56:12.360
<v Speaker 2>What did they change with they?

1008
00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:16.239
<v Speaker 3>I I don't know what is happening on the back

1009
00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:22.880
<v Speaker 3>end because I don't use it. But it's it's less,

1010
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:27.039
<v Speaker 3>it's feeling less beta. In regards to the notification summaries,

1011
00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:31.840
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't botch the summaries as a whole. I actually

1012
00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:34.559
<v Speaker 3>get like relevant information off.

1013
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:37.840
<v Speaker 5>Toggle that sucker back on.

1014
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:39.639
<v Speaker 3>You can use the you can use the new content.

1015
00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:41.320
<v Speaker 3>You don't have new products.

1016
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:46.679
<v Speaker 1>I genuinely hate the notification summaries. They irk me to

1017
00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:48.360
<v Speaker 1>my core.

1018
00:56:48.760 --> 00:56:55.880
<v Speaker 4>I like anything anything, and sometimes it's good.

1019
00:56:56.400 --> 00:56:57.119
<v Speaker 2>Other times I.

1020
00:56:57.079 --> 00:57:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Don't trust it, and it makes me actually more paranoid.

1021
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:02.440
<v Speaker 1>It makes me want to read the message more regularly.

1022
00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what is what did it really say? What

1023
00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:09.440
<v Speaker 1>is it trying to say? I don't believe it? And

1024
00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:10.960
<v Speaker 1>then I read it, I'm like, oh, there was a

1025
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:16.000
<v Speaker 1>bunch of context that mattered with punctuation and with timing,

1026
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:20.639
<v Speaker 1>and I'll oftentimes give me a super vague summary that

1027
00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:22.079
<v Speaker 1>makes me more nervous.

1028
00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:27.639
<v Speaker 4>So if I send you Bob Bob Steve, I'm.

1029
00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:30.599
<v Speaker 3>Not gonna it's most likely that's not gonna even get summarized.

1030
00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:34.519
<v Speaker 3>They'll just summarize because because it needs it needs some

1031
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:38.800
<v Speaker 3>context to like, uh, to give you a summary of it.

1032
00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it needs something, but no, especially with UH, you know,

1033
00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:47.880
<v Speaker 1>for the first time in many years, Like I have

1034
00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:52.039
<v Speaker 1>bosses now that text me quite a bit, And when

1035
00:57:52.039 --> 00:57:55.719
<v Speaker 1>I get a text from them and it's summarizing it,

1036
00:57:56.559 --> 00:58:00.159
<v Speaker 1>like I get weird. Same thing with emails, it just

1037
00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:02.360
<v Speaker 1>makes me go, what did that really mean?

1038
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:03.920
<v Speaker 2>What is it? And then I have to go in

1039
00:58:04.039 --> 00:58:06.039
<v Speaker 2>to check it. No, that was not a good summary.

1040
00:58:06.079 --> 00:58:09.440
<v Speaker 1>And then I find myself reviewing the summaries constantly of

1041
00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:11.280
<v Speaker 1>just like, no, I can't trust this one.

1042
00:58:11.320 --> 00:58:13.800
<v Speaker 2>I can't so I genuinely.

1043
00:58:13.559 --> 00:58:15.039
<v Speaker 3>When when and when was this?

1044
00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:19.719
<v Speaker 2>This wasn't recent, No, this was when it first came out.

1045
00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:22.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would say turn it back on for a

1046
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:24.960
<v Speaker 3>day or a couple of days and just run within

1047
00:58:25.079 --> 00:58:30.800
<v Speaker 3>see because it's from my LA. So that's that would

1048
00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:33.559
<v Speaker 3>be very interesting to see. Is it an iOS eighteen

1049
00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:37.480
<v Speaker 3>slash iOS twenty six upgrade or is it that the

1050
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:42.440
<v Speaker 3>beta is just getting more refined everything that I get

1051
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:46.320
<v Speaker 3>for summer. I love the filtering that's in iOS twenty six.

1052
00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:49.599
<v Speaker 3>For text phone calls spam, I don't get any of

1053
00:58:49.639 --> 00:58:51.400
<v Speaker 3>that stuff no more.

1054
00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:57.079
<v Speaker 4>Mind I'm on hold when I'm not on hold, which

1055
00:58:57.119 --> 00:59:02.079
<v Speaker 4>is very entertaining, or says, do you want us to

1056
00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:05.000
<v Speaker 4>tell you when you're not on hold anymore? Press this button?

1057
00:59:05.719 --> 00:59:06.719
<v Speaker 4>I never press it.

1058
00:59:08.840 --> 00:59:10.519
<v Speaker 2>Because I'm I will.

1059
00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:12.760
<v Speaker 4>Tell me that I'm not on hold anymore, and then

1060
00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:14.559
<v Speaker 4>oh I waited fifteen minutes.

1061
00:59:14.639 --> 00:59:16.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't make many phone calls, so I don't know

1062
00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:19.719
<v Speaker 3>about the holding. But I get a lot of spam

1063
00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:25.400
<v Speaker 3>and the filtering system is out the gate day one

1064
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:29.239
<v Speaker 3>on boxing the phone is s tire I love and

1065
00:59:29.280 --> 00:59:31.719
<v Speaker 3>I love that it over filters because some people I

1066
00:59:31.760 --> 00:59:33.400
<v Speaker 3>don't really care to see their text.

1067
00:59:33.159 --> 00:59:34.400
<v Speaker 5>Too if I have them saved.

1068
00:59:34.519 --> 00:59:36.679
<v Speaker 3>But it automatic enough.

1069
00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:38.079
<v Speaker 2>Why you haven't answered my text?

1070
00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:43.679
<v Speaker 3>Okay, right back when I in May of twenty twenty five,

1071
00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:50.119
<v Speaker 3>when there was no sorry, it was debata, say, if

1072
00:59:50.159 --> 00:59:52.400
<v Speaker 3>you have a contact saved, it's going to bypass all

1073
00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:55.159
<v Speaker 3>the filters and come straight to you with notifications for

1074
00:59:55.239 --> 00:59:59.679
<v Speaker 3>the text or phone calls or voicemails or whatever. But verification,

1075
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:03.280
<v Speaker 3>garification codes not a thing. Those aud it has been

1076
01:00:03.360 --> 01:00:05.400
<v Speaker 3>getting deleted. But worse than that, it's.

1077
01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Like he is on fire red interruption, So notifications. I'm

1078
01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:16.639
<v Speaker 2>using the breathe app.

1079
01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:23.920
<v Speaker 5>Honey me, we just got furloughed.

1080
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:32.519
<v Speaker 2>Honey, Apple is suing us.

1081
01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:37.400
<v Speaker 3>I got another leak video coming soon.

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01:00:41.039 --> 01:00:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and this is a review unit too, boll.

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01:00:46.159 --> 01:00:51.599
<v Speaker 3>Not from Apple. It ain't sponsorships don't count. That didn't

1084
01:00:51.599 --> 01:00:54.960
<v Speaker 3>come from Apple. That didn't come from everything.

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01:00:55.079 --> 01:00:56.639
<v Speaker 2>A review unit now? Sorry?

1086
01:00:57.119 --> 01:01:00.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, me, just sorry. I didn't buy this. Apple

1087
01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:05.519
<v Speaker 3>sent me this, change my mind, put me wrong?

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01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Whatever, Oh boy, okay, I'll turn it back there.

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01:01:11.519 --> 01:01:12.679
<v Speaker 3>I would say, just just give it.

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01:01:12.639 --> 01:01:20.119
<v Speaker 6>A try, give it, uh, run with it for a

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01:01:20.159 --> 01:01:23.639
<v Speaker 6>couple of days and see if you've knowed an improvement.

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01:01:24.639 --> 01:01:25.079
<v Speaker 3>For hours.

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01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:26.880
<v Speaker 4>So I was making note of it's nine to twelve

1094
01:01:26.920 --> 01:01:27.800
<v Speaker 4>exactly right.

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01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:30.199
<v Speaker 2>So we'll see how long it lasts.

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01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:34.559
<v Speaker 3>We will rally back next time we record next year,

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01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:41.519
<v Speaker 3>and we'll see if that worked.

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01:01:44.280 --> 01:01:46.840
<v Speaker 2>So as soon as we end the show, it's going.

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01:01:47.679 --> 01:01:54.079
<v Speaker 3>It is done. So the filtering system I enjoy a lot.

1100
01:01:54.719 --> 01:01:59.239
<v Speaker 3>I like, I like the updates to the photos app

1101
01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:02.960
<v Speaker 3>suck it drew, and I also.

1102
01:02:04.800 --> 01:02:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Go on an older version. This is what I did.

1103
01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I picked up an old iPad that was on like

1104
01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:12.920
<v Speaker 1>iOS fifteen or sixteen or something, and I couldn't believe

1105
01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:13.880
<v Speaker 1>how easy the.

1106
01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Photos that was to navigate. I was just like, Wow,

1107
01:02:18.280 --> 01:02:22.039
<v Speaker 2>everything is just in one place. It's still simple. Still.

1108
01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:26.320
<v Speaker 3>I hope, I hope is on You don't see what

1109
01:02:26.440 --> 01:02:29.800
<v Speaker 3>has seventeen or something. I'll look into that. I don't

1110
01:02:29.840 --> 01:02:32.239
<v Speaker 3>think it's on eighteen iPad mini, so I'll see.

1111
01:02:33.480 --> 01:02:39.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what is your Also, I like settings.

1112
01:02:39.559 --> 01:02:42.760
<v Speaker 3>I like what the third party apps have done in

1113
01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:45.960
<v Speaker 3>conjunction to have that symmetry with the design language of

1114
01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:50.079
<v Speaker 3>iOS twenty six, so I haven't I don't use Twitter,

1115
01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:50.800
<v Speaker 3>so I don't know.

1116
01:02:50.840 --> 01:02:53.880
<v Speaker 2>But Instagram does nothing.

1117
01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:58.360
<v Speaker 5>Instagram looks refreshed and cleaned and just more minimized.

1118
01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:06.239
<v Speaker 3>I'd say the the the banking apps that I use

1119
01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:12.119
<v Speaker 3>took full advantage of like having uh new series shortcuts.

1120
01:03:12.119 --> 01:03:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Evidently I didn't even know that was like a thing.

1121
01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:17.760
<v Speaker 3>So I've been looking into that. Uh and I think,

1122
01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:22.679
<v Speaker 3>and it's risky banking with my city shortcut.

1123
01:03:24.440 --> 01:03:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Just trying to think of what I would use a

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01:03:27.320 --> 01:03:29.519
<v Speaker 2>shortcut for in a banking app.

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01:03:29.599 --> 01:03:34.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the banking app for me, I get a soft

1126
01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:38.719
<v Speaker 3>pull on my credit through Navy FED and I can

1127
01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:43.880
<v Speaker 3>I can be notified, for example, my mortgage for this property.

1128
01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:46.920
<v Speaker 3>The loan got transferred to a different lender, so an

1129
01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:51.079
<v Speaker 3>account recently closed today, and then my credit score shot.

1130
01:03:51.159 --> 01:03:52.920
<v Speaker 3>It's funny, the moment I stopped caring about a credit

1131
01:03:52.920 --> 01:03:55.880
<v Speaker 3>score is when it got really good. I'm like, Okay,

1132
01:03:55.960 --> 01:03:56.719
<v Speaker 3>that's a key.

1133
01:03:57.480 --> 01:04:01.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, uh that's that's that's uh sus right there.

1134
01:04:01.320 --> 01:04:08.000
<v Speaker 4>But uh negative the bank credit?

1135
01:04:08.679 --> 01:04:14.800
<v Speaker 5>No, oh, get them get them out.

1136
01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Having a wonderful time right now, it's not loading anything.

1137
01:04:19.159 --> 01:04:23.760
<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's the thing. Listen for me. All my bugs

1138
01:04:23.880 --> 01:04:29.920
<v Speaker 3>I've experienced all year with the iOS eighteen are all rectified,

1139
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:34.519
<v Speaker 3>specifically the autocorrect UH issue. I would be typing and

1140
01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:38.079
<v Speaker 3>they would just fill out a word, and there was

1141
01:04:38.119 --> 01:04:40.400
<v Speaker 3>so much typos for the last year. People actually thought

1142
01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:46.159
<v Speaker 3>I I have been taking the tism pill Thailand. All

1143
01:04:46.199 --> 01:04:56.079
<v Speaker 3>people thought I was because I my text looked terrible.

1144
01:04:56.679 --> 01:04:59.320
<v Speaker 3>And now it doesn't have this auto fill thing that's

1145
01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:02.239
<v Speaker 3>happening in Iowa twenty six And I haven't changed Jack.

1146
01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:04.199
<v Speaker 5>It just did it by itself and fixed it.

1147
01:05:04.840 --> 01:05:07.599
<v Speaker 3>All bugs and crashing, just weird bugouts that I would

1148
01:05:07.639 --> 01:05:11.079
<v Speaker 3>get from even just loading like Pitcher and Pittron on YouTube.

1149
01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:14.559
<v Speaker 3>On iOS eighteen crashed all the time, not on iOS

1150
01:05:14.599 --> 01:05:18.639
<v Speaker 3>twenty six. All my crashes that I experienced basically daily

1151
01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:22.280
<v Speaker 3>fixed and that if there was nothing else but under

1152
01:05:22.320 --> 01:05:23.960
<v Speaker 3>the hood things, I would say iOS twenty six was

1153
01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:25.360
<v Speaker 3>worth it, and it was worth it for me. And

1154
01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:29.400
<v Speaker 3>what the weird thing is other people have had inverted responses.

1155
01:05:29.559 --> 01:05:31.760
<v Speaker 3>They loved iOS eighteen because of house move it was,

1156
01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:34.360
<v Speaker 3>and they hate how buggy iOS twenty six is. And

1157
01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:38.480
<v Speaker 3>that just blows my mind that we that we just

1158
01:05:38.519 --> 01:05:41.920
<v Speaker 3>live on the same earth where that's happening, and probably

1159
01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:45.679
<v Speaker 3>right no there some of them are saying that they're

1160
01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:49.639
<v Speaker 3>running at the time iOS or not sorry, iphoned sixteen

1161
01:05:49.679 --> 01:05:53.079
<v Speaker 3>pro like they have the latest and greatest anything from

1162
01:05:53.119 --> 01:05:55.679
<v Speaker 3>A fifteen to forward. If it has a USB sport,

1163
01:05:56.119 --> 01:05:58.360
<v Speaker 3>if it has a USBC port in it, it should

1164
01:05:58.440 --> 01:06:01.119
<v Speaker 3>give you no issues. But I don't think it has

1165
01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:02.840
<v Speaker 3>anything to do with RAM. I don't think it's because

1166
01:06:02.880 --> 01:06:05.039
<v Speaker 3>I got twelve gigs. RAM that now is like oh

1167
01:06:05.159 --> 01:06:08.360
<v Speaker 3>animations more fluid, or whether the case may be, I

1168
01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:11.960
<v Speaker 3>won't know because I don't have a phone that has

1169
01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:14.519
<v Speaker 3>eight gigs. But I'm pretty sure my iPad pro does.

1170
01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:17.480
<v Speaker 3>And I love iPad oles twenty six. I love mac

1171
01:06:17.480 --> 01:06:21.719
<v Speaker 3>Os twenty six to everything all this, this has been

1172
01:06:21.760 --> 01:06:26.199
<v Speaker 3>the cleanest, most stable software release for me, and I liked.

1173
01:06:26.280 --> 01:06:28.280
<v Speaker 3>I just like the refresh look for the sake of it.

1174
01:06:28.280 --> 01:06:33.519
<v Speaker 3>It could be completely superficial in all aesthetic space, and

1175
01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:36.000
<v Speaker 3>it will make so many people happy for the sake

1176
01:06:36.039 --> 01:06:39.400
<v Speaker 3>of Like there, shut up, don't look at don't look

1177
01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:42.440
<v Speaker 3>at Apple Intelligence. Here's all this clean stuff the future.

1178
01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:46.960
<v Speaker 1>You piss off a bunch of other people who didn't

1179
01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:49.119
<v Speaker 1>want it to change and just wanted their phone to

1180
01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:50.880
<v Speaker 1>work well, the phone so.

1181
01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:52.639
<v Speaker 3>Called bloomers, and they'll be dead soon.

1182
01:06:54.679 --> 01:06:58.079
<v Speaker 1>Literally, people I work with complaining to me will be

1183
01:06:58.199 --> 01:06:59.360
<v Speaker 1>dead soon exactly.

1184
01:07:02.559 --> 01:07:07.119
<v Speaker 3>But the thing is change, Change is inevitable. That's the

1185
01:07:07.119 --> 01:07:09.559
<v Speaker 3>point I've been trying to like just make in at

1186
01:07:09.679 --> 01:07:13.880
<v Speaker 3>least in my sphere of tech stuff that like you

1187
01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:16.800
<v Speaker 3>will have to upgrade eventually. You can kick and scream.

1188
01:07:17.199 --> 01:07:20.039
<v Speaker 3>Change is inevitable. And if that means there's certain things

1189
01:07:20.039 --> 01:07:22.920
<v Speaker 3>that you have to relearn some stuff, that's the price

1190
01:07:22.960 --> 01:07:25.199
<v Speaker 3>you pay for getting free software updates.

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01:07:25.559 --> 01:07:27.519
<v Speaker 5>We take some time to learn some stuff and you'll

1192
01:07:27.519 --> 01:07:27.960
<v Speaker 5>be okay.

1193
01:07:28.639 --> 01:07:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Relearning is not that bad. But choosing a design language

1194
01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:37.880
<v Speaker 1>that actively slows down the older hardware, that's where it's

1195
01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:40.840
<v Speaker 1>not like you got to relearn some things. That's more

1196
01:07:40.920 --> 01:07:43.800
<v Speaker 1>like we decided it should look like this, and because

1197
01:07:43.840 --> 01:07:46.320
<v Speaker 1>we decided that now you need to upgrade sooner than

1198
01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:47.440
<v Speaker 1>you would have otherwise.

1199
01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:51.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I can't. I can't. I don't have

1200
01:07:51.599 --> 01:07:53.559
<v Speaker 3>my own experience with that because my oldest device is

1201
01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:56.360
<v Speaker 3>the MacBook Pro and that runs smooth. So I can't

1202
01:07:56.400 --> 01:07:58.119
<v Speaker 3>say nothing with that.

1203
01:07:59.159 --> 01:08:02.760
<v Speaker 2>You're like, that's a you problem with that.

1204
01:08:03.280 --> 01:08:06.440
<v Speaker 3>I am aware. In your settings, you can turn off

1205
01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:08.440
<v Speaker 3>a lot of these animations. You can even turn off

1206
01:08:08.480 --> 01:08:11.320
<v Speaker 3>the glass and make it more frosted, and you can

1207
01:08:11.360 --> 01:08:14.800
<v Speaker 3>have a more stable use case if things are lagging,

1208
01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:17.840
<v Speaker 3>because I don't know how an iPhone eleven is performing

1209
01:08:18.159 --> 01:08:22.119
<v Speaker 3>in these use cases, like I would suspect terrible. But

1210
01:08:22.239 --> 01:08:26.199
<v Speaker 3>people who are on iPhone eleven or twelve, in my mind,

1211
01:08:26.319 --> 01:08:30.359
<v Speaker 3>those people don't upgrade software or hardware like they just

1212
01:08:30.720 --> 01:08:31.800
<v Speaker 3>stay with what they know.

1213
01:08:33.960 --> 01:08:35.720
<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of people who did and now

1214
01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:38.319
<v Speaker 1>regret it and wish they could go back. But I

1215
01:08:38.399 --> 01:08:41.640
<v Speaker 1>just feel like if it could perform and get way

1216
01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:44.960
<v Speaker 1>better battery life with those settings turned off or down,

1217
01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:49.520
<v Speaker 1>it should do that by default to just in that update,

1218
01:08:50.119 --> 01:08:52.600
<v Speaker 1>because not everybody's in their grandma is going to know

1219
01:08:52.640 --> 01:08:56.000
<v Speaker 1>how to go into accessibility and look at the frosted

1220
01:08:56.159 --> 01:09:02.439
<v Speaker 1>settings slider and make liquid glass ice or whatever like

1221
01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:04.000
<v Speaker 1>we'd well, I'll.

1222
01:09:03.880 --> 01:09:06.279
<v Speaker 4>Just do the same thing that video games to these days.

1223
01:09:06.479 --> 01:09:09.039
<v Speaker 4>Do you want to optimize for performance or for stability?

1224
01:09:09.079 --> 01:09:11.159
<v Speaker 4>There you go, and then that's at the beginning of

1225
01:09:11.159 --> 01:09:14.880
<v Speaker 4>the game, right is you choose either you want very

1226
01:09:14.920 --> 01:09:18.600
<v Speaker 4>pretty but might peach or yeah, very pretty but might

1227
01:09:18.600 --> 01:09:22.199
<v Speaker 4>be choppy or looks meah but not choppy at.

1228
01:09:22.159 --> 01:09:26.159
<v Speaker 3>All, and that's or train when you get a new

1229
01:09:26.880 --> 01:09:29.239
<v Speaker 3>device it happened on all my devices, or when you

1230
01:09:29.279 --> 01:09:31.159
<v Speaker 3>update to iOS to my six for the first time,

1231
01:09:31.399 --> 01:09:34.199
<v Speaker 3>there is a tutorial screen where they let you start

1232
01:09:34.239 --> 01:09:36.680
<v Speaker 3>tinkering with some stuff, and I hear you, Mike, maybe

1233
01:09:36.720 --> 01:09:39.920
<v Speaker 3>they should be more in depth about more tinkering things.

1234
01:09:40.119 --> 01:09:41.640
<v Speaker 5>But I am aware that you.

1235
01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:44.680
<v Speaker 3>Can set some stuff from the offset when you get

1236
01:09:44.680 --> 01:09:47.680
<v Speaker 3>a new device or you upgrade to iOS twenty six,

1237
01:09:47.680 --> 01:09:50.159
<v Speaker 3>because I had to go through that three different times.

1238
01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:54.920
<v Speaker 5>On mac, iPad and iPhone, so I maybe that's maybe

1239
01:09:54.920 --> 01:09:56.159
<v Speaker 5>that's it. Maybe there needs to be a way.

1240
01:09:56.359 --> 01:09:59.279
<v Speaker 3>I hate the fact that they throw out the tips notification.

1241
01:09:59.319 --> 01:10:02.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, get that out of my get that trash

1242
01:10:02.960 --> 01:10:03.520
<v Speaker 3>away from me.

1243
01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:05.760
<v Speaker 2>But I didn't have that happened to me.

1244
01:10:05.880 --> 01:10:09.079
<v Speaker 4>But that's probably because I switched to de SIM and

1245
01:10:09.520 --> 01:10:13.920
<v Speaker 4>I didn't switch anything else besides number, which is very fun.

1246
01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:16.399
<v Speaker 4>By the way, thanks Verizon for making it a headache.

1247
01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:23.079
<v Speaker 4>But otherwise, yeah, them, Frontier and every other company that

1248
01:10:23.199 --> 01:10:30.920
<v Speaker 4>they own awful, awful, But no otherwise I'm kind of

1249
01:10:31.039 --> 01:10:33.760
<v Speaker 4>in the middle there, Randy, where my experience has been

1250
01:10:33.920 --> 01:10:38.039
<v Speaker 4>stable except three or four times I could count. I

1251
01:10:38.039 --> 01:10:41.439
<v Speaker 4>guess my hands where it's bugged out, either on the

1252
01:10:41.439 --> 01:10:42.640
<v Speaker 4>lock screen or I.

1253
01:10:42.520 --> 01:10:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Tried opening that and then it just didn't.

1254
01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:49.920
<v Speaker 4>But it's not so much to where it's like, this

1255
01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:54.680
<v Speaker 4>is a very unstable software package, but at the same

1256
01:10:54.720 --> 01:10:57.640
<v Speaker 4>time it hasn't been immutable for Mike.

1257
01:10:58.760 --> 01:11:00.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, did you update your iPad?

1258
01:11:02.800 --> 01:11:03.319
<v Speaker 2>No?

1259
01:11:05.279 --> 01:11:11.000
<v Speaker 4>Do you want me to now, Army, that's take too long.

1260
01:11:12.319 --> 01:11:18.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna it's gonna take like forty minutes. You'll watch it.

1261
01:11:18.399 --> 01:11:22.880
<v Speaker 3>I I'm not saying too I don't. I don't really

1262
01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:24.760
<v Speaker 3>care what you do. I'm just curious if you had

1263
01:11:25.199 --> 01:11:28.720
<v Speaker 3>because that's that's the twenty twenty one iPad Mini, right.

1264
01:11:29.279 --> 01:11:33.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm graded to eighteen seven to one. Oh, he's on seventeen,

1265
01:11:33.399 --> 01:11:35.039
<v Speaker 4>eighteen six whatever.

1266
01:11:35.399 --> 01:11:37.800
<v Speaker 3>I need to see the photos app offline to see

1267
01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:41.439
<v Speaker 3>what Drew's talking about if it's actually you know, because

1268
01:11:41.800 --> 01:11:44.920
<v Speaker 3>I part of my brain tells me Drew Drew is

1269
01:11:44.920 --> 01:11:47.720
<v Speaker 3>living in the past with nostalgia and he thinks everything

1270
01:11:47.760 --> 01:11:48.279
<v Speaker 3>looks great.

1271
01:11:48.720 --> 01:11:51.880
<v Speaker 1>And uh, I don't like eighteen to be clear, but

1272
01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I just I can't go seventeen.

1273
01:11:55.720 --> 01:11:59.520
<v Speaker 5>Back when I was a YouTuber, things worse, things worse, decent.

1274
01:12:01.640 --> 01:12:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Back when No, it's just I'm afraid.

1275
01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I've heard too many scary stories about sixteen pros that

1276
01:12:11.279 --> 01:12:13.560
<v Speaker 1>perform horribly after the updates, And I'm like, wo.

1277
01:12:13.640 --> 01:12:16.239
<v Speaker 5>So do you also you suspect it's the device. You

1278
01:12:16.239 --> 01:12:18.199
<v Speaker 5>don't think it's the software. Is the device then?

1279
01:12:19.359 --> 01:12:22.399
<v Speaker 2>No, I think management or something like. Okay, it's the

1280
01:12:22.479 --> 01:12:27.359
<v Speaker 2>software that's optimized to run on this hardware, but not

1281
01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:29.239
<v Speaker 2>this hardware. So it makes this.

1282
01:12:29.239 --> 01:12:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Hardware run hot and laggy to make me want to

1283
01:12:32.239 --> 01:12:32.560
<v Speaker 1>get this.

1284
01:12:34.039 --> 01:12:35.119
<v Speaker 2>That's what it feels like to me.

1285
01:12:35.399 --> 01:12:38.000
<v Speaker 3>If it got addressed in a point one or point

1286
01:12:38.079 --> 01:12:41.279
<v Speaker 3>oh one or whatever, then you're like, Okay, that's fine.

1287
01:12:42.520 --> 01:12:46.000
<v Speaker 2>I will update when I have to when they make me.

1288
01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:47.720
<v Speaker 3>What does that? Okay?

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<v Speaker 11>So so so you don't like the aesthetic of iOS

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01:12:52.319 --> 01:13:00.479
<v Speaker 11>twenty six, No, it felt too I don't know, as

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01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:04.399
<v Speaker 11>usual says everything best because she comes in from this

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01:13:04.520 --> 01:13:07.680
<v Speaker 11>like non nerdy perspective and she just looks at something

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<v Speaker 11>in the first glance.

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<v Speaker 1>And the first thing she said when I showed her

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01:13:11.680 --> 01:13:15.039
<v Speaker 1>iOS twenty six was it feels like a kid version.

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<v Speaker 1>Feels like everything's just like more playful and shiny, like

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01:13:19.439 --> 01:13:20.199
<v Speaker 1>a kid's toy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, ooh, look at the lights.

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01:13:22.760 --> 01:13:25.399
<v Speaker 1>Look at the refraction, and ever since she said that,

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01:13:25.439 --> 01:13:27.359
<v Speaker 1>I haven't been able to unsee it. It just feels

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01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:32.720
<v Speaker 1>like the GPU and everything's working overtime and the renderings

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01:13:32.760 --> 01:13:37.319
<v Speaker 1>are kind of over the top and is a shame

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01:13:37.359 --> 01:13:39.760
<v Speaker 1>because I did really enjoy the hardware on the seventeen

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01:13:39.800 --> 01:13:43.199
<v Speaker 1>Pro Max. I was like, this is it never got hot,

1305
01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:46.439
<v Speaker 1>the battery life was good, the display was bright, the

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01:13:46.479 --> 01:13:51.159
<v Speaker 1>cameras were great. It was just like all this pro

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01:13:51.399 --> 01:13:55.079
<v Speaker 1>hardware that I've always wanted, and yet it felt so

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01:13:56.199 --> 01:13:59.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of childish and playful. When it came to software

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01:14:00.359 --> 01:14:03.359
<v Speaker 1>that I was just like finding I had to tap

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01:14:03.479 --> 01:14:07.960
<v Speaker 1>more things, whether it be Safari with all tabs, which

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01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:10.720
<v Speaker 1>I know is a setting, but still it's like, why

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01:14:11.520 --> 01:14:13.680
<v Speaker 1>why does that need to be a set? Why can't

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01:14:13.680 --> 01:14:15.800
<v Speaker 1>there be a button I pressed to get to all tabs,

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01:14:15.840 --> 01:14:19.000
<v Speaker 1>or why do I have to like look for hidden

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<v Speaker 1>menu options?

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<v Speaker 2>And camera?

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01:14:20.439 --> 01:14:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I've found that very annoying when I hand my phone

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01:14:22.840 --> 01:14:26.239
<v Speaker 1>to someone else and they were like, wait, how do

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01:14:26.319 --> 01:14:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I get to panorama or how do I get to portrait?

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<v Speaker 1>Because all they say is video and photo? Yeah, I

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01:14:32.359 --> 01:14:34.039
<v Speaker 1>kind of to be a little bit awkward. So there's

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01:14:34.039 --> 01:14:39.439
<v Speaker 1>all these like settings that they decided to hide, which

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01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:42.319
<v Speaker 1>you can get used to it. There are so now

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01:14:42.319 --> 01:14:44.720
<v Speaker 1>you're swiping around and you ended up on spatial mode

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01:14:44.760 --> 01:14:46.079
<v Speaker 1>instead of just.

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01:14:46.039 --> 01:14:48.039
<v Speaker 4>Set on spacial mode yet so it's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>And then look at that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, this is a prime example. Look at how shiny

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01:14:51.119 --> 01:14:54.199
<v Speaker 1>and refractive the menu options are at the bottom. But

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01:14:54.239 --> 01:14:56.880
<v Speaker 1>then this video icon is not shiny or reflective. Then

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01:14:56.920 --> 01:15:00.600
<v Speaker 1>it's old fashioned two D flat And I can find

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01:15:00.640 --> 01:15:03.279
<v Speaker 1>like a million examples like that whenever I use iOS

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01:15:03.319 --> 01:15:05.479
<v Speaker 1>twenty six where I'm just like, okay, so this is

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01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:08.800
<v Speaker 1>old fashioned two D, but then this one is liquid

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01:15:08.840 --> 01:15:11.359
<v Speaker 1>glass and it just keeps bouncing all over the place,

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01:15:11.399 --> 01:15:14.760
<v Speaker 1>and that inconsistency always drove me nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like, so you're shiny, but you're not shiny.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, how do I know what to expect to

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01:15:23.039 --> 01:15:24.720
<v Speaker 1>be liquid and what's not to be liquid?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I just found the design more consistent,

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01:15:27.720 --> 01:15:31.439
<v Speaker 2>and as far as a design language on this, I think,

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01:15:31.479 --> 01:15:32.880
<v Speaker 2>so what I'm go ahead?

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<v Speaker 4>I would disagree only because the thing that is liquid

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01:15:35.800 --> 01:15:38.960
<v Speaker 4>glass on that selection is it showing you what you're

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01:15:39.039 --> 01:15:44.760
<v Speaker 4>on where the list isn't shiny at all on whether

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01:15:44.800 --> 01:15:48.239
<v Speaker 4>you're going to cinematic or time lapse or whatever. Nothing's

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01:15:48.239 --> 01:15:49.640
<v Speaker 4>shiny until the selector.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's your frame rate and your resolution. That's flat. Yeah,

1349
01:15:54.279 --> 01:15:55.720
<v Speaker 2>it's all flat. Everything's flat.

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01:15:55.720 --> 01:15:58.720
<v Speaker 4>The only thing that's not flat is it showing you

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01:15:58.720 --> 01:16:02.479
<v Speaker 4>you are on video specifically you're on well, I'm on

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01:16:02.520 --> 01:16:03.159
<v Speaker 4>a different app.

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01:16:07.000 --> 01:16:09.399
<v Speaker 3>Is iOS has gotten so good. The only thing you

1354
01:16:09.439 --> 01:16:13.199
<v Speaker 3>can hate on is nitpicking design, aesthetics of this part's

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01:16:13.239 --> 01:16:16.399
<v Speaker 3>flat and this part is not. Not the functionality of

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01:16:16.560 --> 01:16:17.960
<v Speaker 3>the tool itself.

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<v Speaker 5>What a great problem at the top.

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01:16:21.239 --> 01:16:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Glassy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, sometimes certain things are glassy, and sometimes

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01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:30.760
<v Speaker 1>that is well, I just pick one because they can't

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01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:33.720
<v Speaker 1>pick one because it's it's designed.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't get me.

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01:16:39.479 --> 01:16:40.359
<v Speaker 3>One punch mic.

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01:16:42.600 --> 01:16:43.880
<v Speaker 2>You can physically do it now.

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01:16:44.680 --> 01:16:47.640
<v Speaker 1>I just I don't. I just don't see the point.

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01:16:47.720 --> 01:16:50.439
<v Speaker 1>I guess it doesn't feel like it feels like it's

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01:16:50.479 --> 01:16:55.880
<v Speaker 1>a definite way to ramp up the GPU for no

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01:16:56.039 --> 01:16:56.880
<v Speaker 1>functional game.

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01:16:58.039 --> 01:17:00.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it really does ramp up because

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01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:04.520
<v Speaker 3>these things are so minute on a screen.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you have a vapor chamber, it doesn't.

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01:17:07.600 --> 01:17:11.439
<v Speaker 3>That's not what the VA gaming. It's for gaming, or

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01:17:11.520 --> 01:17:14.199
<v Speaker 3>when you're outside and you get the three thousand nits

1374
01:17:14.199 --> 01:17:18.760
<v Speaker 3>of brightness or extensive uses on any application that requires

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01:17:18.880 --> 01:17:22.279
<v Speaker 3>that GPU to ramp up. The vapor chamber kicks and

1376
01:17:22.359 --> 01:17:25.279
<v Speaker 3>then I've never felt this phone get hot, which tells

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01:17:25.279 --> 01:17:27.119
<v Speaker 3>me I'm not doing a good job pushing.

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01:17:26.840 --> 01:17:30.600
<v Speaker 1>It because it's the kind of vapor and it's aluminum.

1379
01:17:30.840 --> 01:17:33.800
<v Speaker 1>It's not in a glass steel chassis like something.

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01:17:33.800 --> 01:17:37.840
<v Speaker 3>So you're saying you would take this phone with iOS eighteen.

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01:17:38.239 --> 01:17:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes, if there's a way to, or seventeen would be better,

1382
01:17:42.319 --> 01:17:48.359
<v Speaker 1>but anyway, that's that's my random, crazy tangent.

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01:17:49.279 --> 01:17:51.479
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this is your age showing that you're acting.

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01:17:51.920 --> 01:17:54.279
<v Speaker 3>You're acting like I don't want.

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01:17:54.079 --> 01:17:56.960
<v Speaker 2>To getting worse.

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01:17:57.520 --> 01:18:00.960
<v Speaker 1>And Drew likes older versions of iOS. Now it's getting bad.

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01:18:00.960 --> 01:18:07.000
<v Speaker 2>That's why I'm wearing thirty. That's just around the corner.

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01:18:07.680 --> 01:18:12.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, do you think do you think? Oh well, then

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<v Speaker 3>let me let me wrap up this iOS twenty six period. Yeah,

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01:18:17.479 --> 01:18:18.479
<v Speaker 3>so I'm gonna wrap it up here.

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01:18:18.479 --> 01:18:19.439
<v Speaker 2>My final question for.

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01:18:19.399 --> 01:18:22.159
<v Speaker 3>You both of you. But you're the one.

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01:18:22.239 --> 01:18:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the sixteen is a good fund.

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<v Speaker 3>It is, thank you, Mike. Does that mean you're not

1395
01:18:29.399 --> 01:18:31.479
<v Speaker 3>it's a two parter? Did you upgrade your Mac and

1396
01:18:31.680 --> 01:18:33.840
<v Speaker 3>if not, does this mean you're not interested in any

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01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:35.560
<v Speaker 3>new hardware because it's going.

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01:18:35.520 --> 01:18:36.760
<v Speaker 5>To have the latest OS?

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01:18:36.800 --> 01:18:39.800
<v Speaker 3>Is that really where you're adding your headspace at this point?

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01:18:41.439 --> 01:18:42.399
<v Speaker 2>For now? Yeah?

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01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:46.439
<v Speaker 1>I loved the new AirPods didn't have liquid glass on them,

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01:18:46.840 --> 01:18:51.119
<v Speaker 1>and I'm waiting for the O lead redesigned MacBook Pro

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01:18:51.279 --> 01:18:52.760
<v Speaker 1>before I consider a new Mac.

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01:18:52.800 --> 01:18:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Because I spent a lot of money on this.

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01:18:55.319 --> 01:18:57.319
<v Speaker 4>Don't you have at least two more years.

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01:18:57.119 --> 01:18:57.640
<v Speaker 2>With this Mac?

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01:18:58.800 --> 01:18:59.319
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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01:19:00.439 --> 01:19:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Legally? Won? Was?

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01:19:03.359 --> 01:19:09.199
<v Speaker 1>I signed a contract this has to last me five years.

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01:19:08.880 --> 01:19:11.399
<v Speaker 3>And had to go through his chain of command? Yeah?

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01:19:11.479 --> 01:19:16.199
<v Speaker 3>Exactly how much storage do you have left on it?

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01:19:17.079 --> 01:19:20.159
<v Speaker 2>I filled it up? Not long? Really a bunch of stuff. Yeah,

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01:19:20.199 --> 01:19:24.239
<v Speaker 2>I hit eight terabytes like six months ago or something. Wow.

1414
01:19:24.600 --> 01:19:26.520
<v Speaker 1>But there's a lot of stuff I could delete. I

1415
01:19:26.600 --> 01:19:27.840
<v Speaker 1>just didn't because I.

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01:19:27.840 --> 01:19:31.359
<v Speaker 3>Was a problem. You have a hoarding digital horder problem?

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01:19:31.640 --> 01:19:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, last guy wes on here are not mine either.

1418
01:19:36.439 --> 01:19:37.079
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

1419
01:19:37.920 --> 01:19:40.760
<v Speaker 5>The last guy we cured of his digital hoarding.

1420
01:19:41.159 --> 01:19:43.960
<v Speaker 3>We cured him so hard he left the tech space altogether,

1421
01:19:44.439 --> 01:19:47.000
<v Speaker 3>and I think we're gonna have to do the same

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01:19:47.039 --> 01:19:47.399
<v Speaker 3>for you.

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01:19:48.880 --> 01:19:50.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we'll see.

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01:19:50.319 --> 01:19:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I may come around to it if I get

1425
01:19:52.920 --> 01:19:57.000
<v Speaker 1>inspired one day, but as of now, I don't. Apple

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01:19:57.039 --> 01:20:00.720
<v Speaker 1>intelligence is step one of this multi stage pro Ladies.

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01:20:00.520 --> 01:20:05.319
<v Speaker 3>And gentlemen, we've made progress because because of of that,

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01:20:05.800 --> 01:20:08.159
<v Speaker 3>there is hope that an Apple sheep is somewhere in there.

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01:20:08.199 --> 01:20:12.119
<v Speaker 3>But if you can't live with this fake sheep, I'm

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01:20:12.159 --> 01:20:19.720
<v Speaker 3>your new Apple sheep, Randy Nexus. See you later, So

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01:20:20.520 --> 01:20:21.359
<v Speaker 3>bye bye