Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Taelsee Tech podcast. Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: We've been gone for a couple minutes. Thank you for
Speaker 1: your patience. Randy gets his own square.
Speaker 2: We have to share one.
Speaker 1: I have crashed Mike's house. He's asked me to leave
Speaker 1: many times, but I'm still here.
Speaker 3: I got Drew to leave my house, but not without
Speaker 3: a parting gift of his double USBC brick thing. First.
Speaker 2: You know, somehow I knew you were going to bring
Speaker 2: this up.
Speaker 3: D Uh when we said finale, I wasn't thinking a year.
Speaker 2: But it's not a year. Has it been a year?
Speaker 3: Almost eleven months?
Speaker 2: Just like eleven and a half months. It's not a year.
Speaker 3: Come on, I feel like, uh, there is so much
Speaker 3: to talk about in I mean, hey, the beauty of
Speaker 3: waiting eleven months, we now all there's no there's no
Speaker 3: dead space. We have so much to cover for twenty
Speaker 3: three we'll probably miss something.
Speaker 4: So I got my ultra, Randy got his ultra. Drew,
Speaker 4: where's yours?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I gained this. Since the last episode, we
Speaker 1: all have a new watch.
Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3: If you are listening on a podcast Apple, you're watching
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Speaker 3: this specific uh uh medium. You should really follow some
Speaker 3: of us or go subscribe to the channels to catch up,
Speaker 3: which are.
Speaker 1: On completely different platform.
Speaker 2: You have to follow me nothing. Randy's no longer on Twitter.
Speaker 2: I am only on Twitter, so we're on the different
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: Completely Uh, there's no more tellors of tech channel, there's
Speaker 3: no more anything.
Speaker 1: All gone throwing off because of the desk.
Speaker 2: His arms are going over the three D effectveshol of
Speaker 2: the It's.
Speaker 3: Really welcome to the artificial intelligence they didn't want you
Speaker 3: to know about.
Speaker 2: I'm getting that. What's that Google demo? No, this is
Speaker 2: that service.
Speaker 5: iOS twenty six, the spatial depth thing.
Speaker 2: Oh right, so it's called twenty six.
Speaker 3: Where do we start? Well, first of all, before we
Speaker 3: even start, Hi, guys, I missed you.
Speaker 4: Hi Raandy, and I can tell you trying to kick
Speaker 4: him out, and for everybody to the people who have pinged.
Speaker 3: Me NonStop for eleven months, the band's back together. The
Speaker 3: gangs are here, reunited. You could stop saying we need
Speaker 3: to have this conversation on the podcast.
Speaker 5: I got it for the last time yesterday.
Speaker 3: I said no more. We are doing this.
Speaker 2: Bags streets.
Speaker 3: So much to talk about it. I don't even know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we should probably go in order. What was like
Speaker 1: the first thing that happened with Apple this year.
Speaker 4: Was the first thing that happened last time we were
Speaker 4: on Is that you left your device at Randy's place.
Speaker 3: That wasn't.
Speaker 2: That wasn't. No, we did a couple of remote ones.
Speaker 3: But the finale, I remember holding a candle saying, Mike,
Speaker 3: you're fired. I haven't done Trump in so long, it's
Speaker 3: not even.
Speaker 4: We were alive last time we recorded.
Speaker 3: Jimmy Carter was alive. Wait, no, was he alive?
Speaker 5: That guy was still living? And about the cyber truck,
Speaker 5: I think I've hit all the checks.
Speaker 4: Oh, there's actually a good reason to be and everything
Speaker 4: else in that company so.
Speaker 2: Much to catch. I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 1: Oh I do remember, because I was in LA when
Speaker 1: it happened. Uh m, four MacBook air.
Speaker 4: Jimmy Carter passed away December twenty ninth, twenty four, So, yes,
Speaker 4: that was right.
Speaker 2: He died with the finale.
Speaker 1: Oh my, it was probably directly because we didn't continue
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 4: So is it confirmed that Jimmy Carter's back? Since we're back?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got up the high pad. Since the yeah, last,
Speaker 3: what is that.
Speaker 2: You have the finess? This one's better.
Speaker 3: I feel that one is, in my opinion, I think better,
Speaker 3: But so many people want us to fight Drew, and
Speaker 3: I don't know what you disagree?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Oh sixteen E six E? That's right?
Speaker 2: That was this year. That was a phone. Do you
Speaker 2: remember that? No?
Speaker 1: Okay, well it's similar to this because it has one
Speaker 1: camera on the back.
Speaker 2: So I have a sixteen?
Speaker 3: Okay, before we battle battle the minds? We I'm really
Speaker 3: As you can see, guys, we didn't actually prepare notes
Speaker 3: for this, as we always don't. We had since when
Speaker 3: do we do that? Dub dub?
Speaker 2: Did we disagree on sixteen? Is that what you were
Speaker 2: bringing up?
Speaker 3: I remember people saying you and Drew need to talk
Speaker 3: about this because he has a different stance. I always
Speaker 3: twenty six is another one.
Speaker 2: I think that's where we probably differ.
Speaker 3: But you can start there. Just hit the ground running
Speaker 3: and beat the hell out of each other.
Speaker 4: Randy has more skinning the game than I do.
Speaker 1: Well, both of you are rocking. I'm sorry, Which thing
Speaker 1: do you want to talk about?
Speaker 3: Please?
Speaker 1: Mike has a seventeen pro and Randy has a seven.
Speaker 1: Oh you guys got the same case.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel nice.
Speaker 4: Better though, because mine's either a Ninja Turtle or Master Chief.
Speaker 3: Yours is just clean minus clean and I on this. Okay,
Speaker 3: but you have the iPhone Air and I saw you
Speaker 3: review the pro So.
Speaker 2: There were those. I threw them away. They're in the
Speaker 2: Oh it's very expensive.
Speaker 1: No, I returned them and they didn't check the boxes,
Speaker 1: which I thought was very interesting. I'm not saying which
Speaker 1: Apple store I went to, but the employees were very young.
Speaker 1: I want to say nineteen twenty years old, iOS twenty
Speaker 1: six then.
Speaker 2: Years old.
Speaker 5: Unready emails older than them.
Speaker 2: You emails.
Speaker 3: Not on my old email count the one I don't
Speaker 3: use anymore. My AOL Yeah AOL dial up is gone.
Speaker 3: That's what we missed.
Speaker 2: It was here? Was it around? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Just like Jimmy Carter? What what are you even talking
Speaker 3: about right now?
Speaker 2: I don't believe it.
Speaker 1: I want to go into okay sixteen E were you
Speaker 1: four or against?
Speaker 3: Four? Dang?
Speaker 2: Okay. I was hoping to move on.
Speaker 3: Actually, now that I know the rest of the year,
Speaker 3: I'm against. But when it came out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there was no mag safe.
Speaker 3: When I asked people that I felt like it was
Speaker 3: targeting for they don't use max safe.
Speaker 1: They use cables, and they use lightning cables too, But
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean we keep lightning around, right.
Speaker 3: Well, that's been a few years now, We've had enough
Speaker 3: time to transition that. But mag safe is an option,
Speaker 3: not a necessity. A cable is a necessity. Oh, this
Speaker 3: was good. This was good.
Speaker 2: I just I'm doing Henry cavill.
Speaker 3: Yo.
Speaker 2: You just grew a beard doing that?
Speaker 3: Yo? Am I tom cruise because I'm short, I'm sure.
Speaker 3: But also since the last podcast, I lost like fifteen
Speaker 3: pounds and maybe a black I heay, thank you. Hey,
Speaker 3: nothing in the universe has ever gone or lost. It's
Speaker 3: just transferred.
Speaker 2: I think that's how that works, transferred.
Speaker 3: All this watching Mike, you'll get the other fifteen Okay,
Speaker 3: wait before you already get this.
Speaker 4: Fifteen every fifteen pro macs.
Speaker 3: Hey, before we continue with the sixteen year whatever. I
Speaker 3: just gotta I'm curious because I see you having some
Speaker 3: white stuff in your ears, Drew, did you keep the
Speaker 3: AirPods Pro three?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Woo, everything, you know, everything went, everything went back because
Speaker 1: I know in two months I'll be able to get
Speaker 1: them for much, much cheaper on Amazon, So no need
Speaker 1: to pay full price. I think they went on sale
Speaker 1: before they launched on Amazon, so it was like, well, shoot,
Speaker 1: I was gonna pick them up, but I already could
Speaker 1: have waited. But I'm also a sustainability for because tech user,
Speaker 1: so my intention is to use these until they stop
Speaker 1: working because they're fine.
Speaker 4: So lucky you. I'm rocking beats now for ye haven't
Speaker 4: followed me?
Speaker 1: Whoa, he's fully committed to the orange here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, orange orange.
Speaker 3: Are those the beats that have the little wings that
Speaker 3: go in your ear? Yes, your ear right now?
Speaker 2: They're really well hidden. Actually your hair covers them up.
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lighting.
Speaker 4: I would equate them to the old ear pods actually
Speaker 4: in terms of sound quality.
Speaker 2: The old ear pods. Yes, so that's not a compliment.
Speaker 4: I would say they're they're good for what they are.
Speaker 4: But going from air pods Pro to them, there's a
Speaker 4: noticeable change. Even though that they have a n C
Speaker 4: like feature, it's not as good in fact, like it
Speaker 4: would prey U be me turning on and I can
Speaker 4: still hear like air conditioning going. It's just slightly quieter
Speaker 4: versus AirPods Pro, which like subtracted entirely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the transparency, a n C.
Speaker 1: Stuff they do is unbelievable, the third gen especially, I
Speaker 1: was like, these can't be twice as quiet.
Speaker 2: That doesn't make strange hear my heart beat?
Speaker 1: Yeah, doctor strange, but.
Speaker 2: Uh but yeah, they're all right for what they are.
Speaker 4: They hurt my ears after a couple hours, which is
Speaker 4: good because I shouldn't have them in all the time.
Speaker 4: But the battery life is pretty good to where I
Speaker 4: don't have to take them out because the battery is
Speaker 4: low compared to the pros, which I felt like I
Speaker 4: was always putting one in, taking one.
Speaker 2: Out, checking one out. They love to die all the time,
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 3: I wish I loved anything in this world as much
Speaker 3: as these things love to die. And it's not even close.
Speaker 2: Such a good quote.
Speaker 3: You guys miss me yet.
Speaker 2: Are you rocking the new ones? Randy?
Speaker 3: I am so glad you asked, Mike. I am who
Speaker 3: I am? Rocking the air Pods pro with lightning. If
Speaker 3: it wants to focus.
Speaker 2: I feel like a grandma. I can't see anything.
Speaker 5: I know it's not focus.
Speaker 2: Hang on, I thought you upgraded everything this year.
Speaker 3: I'm like you, Drew. I am waiting for them to
Speaker 3: go on sale because I am a maximalist on minimizing
Speaker 3: my payments.
Speaker 2: Maximalist.
Speaker 3: So nobody told me I when I talked about AirPods
Speaker 3: Pro three, I was confused on something and I still
Speaker 3: didn't get corrected. And you're my wiki source here. When
Speaker 3: did the Lightning Pro twos come out? Twenty nineteen, twenty
Speaker 3: twenty one, twenty twenty?
Speaker 2: I don't know twenty one, I believe.
Speaker 4: Wow, you're trying whoa, because that's why I got mine.
Speaker 1: Grock is the second gin No, No, wait, I remember
Speaker 1: when the first gen came out.
Speaker 3: That was twenty nineteen, twenty nineteen, because I got pots
Speaker 3: pro dang it.
Speaker 2: I should know that it was twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: I had to be twenty twenty because I had them
Speaker 4: before the pandemic.
Speaker 2: Oh you know, I never the.
Speaker 3: Version before this that didn't have the speaker. I wonder
Speaker 3: why my autofocus doesn't want to hear anything.
Speaker 2: Wait, so it has the speaker and Lightning, Yes, sir,
Speaker 2: I don't know when that camp.
Speaker 1: Okay, I have a really dumb way of finding this out.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be a role and I'm going to
Speaker 1: scroll says.
Speaker 2: So many dog photos.
Speaker 3: It says. Here's what it says. Designed by Apple in California.
Speaker 3: Why do you have assembled in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a lot of stuff to twenty twenty
Speaker 2: two is when at least that's when I exported the
Speaker 2: b roll.
Speaker 1: So that's my best bet because I have reference that
Speaker 1: many times, and I always choose the clips that don't
Speaker 1: show the charge poort on the case because.
Speaker 2: If you showed that, you couldn't tell the difference between
Speaker 2: This wouldn't have happened.
Speaker 1: If Apple would have just freaking named the first gen
Speaker 1: USBC AirPods pro Gen threes and then these would be
Speaker 1: these would be forced. This would have simplified so much.
Speaker 1: But now Randy is like, you can look at the
Speaker 1: bottom of this case and still not know exactly which
Speaker 1: gen it is.
Speaker 4: Right, I guess I was thinking, mind that didn't have
Speaker 4: or the speakers.
Speaker 2: So it must have been the one. I believe that
Speaker 2: was Gen one.
Speaker 3: I had Gen one September twenty twenty two. They were
Speaker 3: announced September between the b.
Speaker 2: Roll folder work.
Speaker 1: That's a good fact checker. How big is the b
Speaker 1: roll folded? I'm just curious. Two hundred gigs right there?
Speaker 4: Oh, well, so you're rocking the old ones. You're both
Speaker 4: waiting for Amazon or whoever to give you a great deal, right, I.
Speaker 3: Will pull the trigger. I mean, worst case scenario. The
Speaker 3: deals normally drop the same time that holiday window opens
Speaker 3: up for through December, so I will be.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you guys, Uh, here's a tech podcast exclusive.
Speaker 3: I will be picking up the iPhone Air when it
Speaker 3: goes into the holidays windows so I can actually thoroughly
Speaker 3: live with it to see what the.
Speaker 7: Hubbler is all about. Respect I predict he won't keep it.
Speaker 7: I agree, okay, is that.
Speaker 3: I protect I'm not going to keep it, and.
Speaker 4: Then he surprises all this including himself, by keeping it.
Speaker 3: So no, this thing is amazing. I For years I've
Speaker 3: wanted an aluminum pro and Drew and I, despite our differences,
Speaker 3: I can't agree on one thing to the grave. Aluminum
Speaker 3: is the better best material for heat dissipation. Wait, aesthetics,
Speaker 3: if you want to have multiple colors, Mike being the
Speaker 3: example with the cosmic orange.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how are you guys liking it?
Speaker 4: I just want orange.
Speaker 2: I couldn't do that now.
Speaker 4: I had a white fourteen and I'm like, I kind
Speaker 4: of want some color.
Speaker 3: Yeah, can you put your camera back in frame for me?
Speaker 3: Real quick Cortana. I need to know that's not going
Speaker 3: to happen.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, speaker, what if you miss pro?
Speaker 2: I need a weapon.
Speaker 3: I need a cosmic orange. Honestly, Drew, if I'm being
Speaker 3: honest with you, Drew, I suspected that you were going
Speaker 3: to actually upgrade to this one because the fifteenth to
Speaker 3: the sixteen was literally not noticeable. Is the button that
Speaker 3: we all hate.
Speaker 1: It was very lame, and I regret making the upgrade.
Speaker 1: I should have kept the fifteen feel very.
Speaker 3: Fifteen to the seventeen on the pro lineup, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: still kind of pushing it. But I feel, especially for you, Drew,
Speaker 3: I feel that front facing camera does wonders.
Speaker 5: Dude, I love that thing.
Speaker 3: My my current setup of how I kind of rock
Speaker 3: with the thing. I would have gotten the base model
Speaker 3: seventeen just for anybody who was wondering is the color?
Speaker 4: But you just make like three or four videos saying
Speaker 4: why I'm not going with the regular one.
Speaker 8: I'm going with keep talking, keep talking, I'm just thinking
Speaker 8: what it just talks to each other.
Speaker 2: Oh he's bad, Oh it's still Oh you bought a
Speaker 2: second copy. Good job you had to get that.
Speaker 4: Well, no, he had to get his own version, because
Speaker 4: of course you can't part with the one that his
Speaker 4: wife was getting.
Speaker 2: M So I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1: For there's got to be a good analogy for all
Speaker 1: the tech reviewers who all kept saying the exact same thing,
Speaker 1: which is, everyone should get this phone. This phone is perfect,
Speaker 1: this phone is great. I'm not going to get this phone,
Speaker 1: but everyone else, Well.
Speaker 5: The thing is, uh, telephone, it's great.
Speaker 3: I've been using I've been using telephoto the daily and
Speaker 3: I film I'm pulling a te loas of tech and
Speaker 3: ev here and I film on on this primarily. And
Speaker 3: I like the ability of stripping that artificial sharpening that
Speaker 3: you could do just by going to uh log to
Speaker 3: or I don't know what the difference between log and
Speaker 3: LOG two is, but but doing that with the h
Speaker 3: g VC codec is still a small file. So I'm
Speaker 3: able to actually like crank out videos pretty quick in
Speaker 3: trans and air drop them relatively quickly video wire. I
Speaker 3: totally get why you've done it with your with the
Speaker 3: since the fifteen pro, I see why you've done that now, Drew,
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, this is actually like low key fun,
Speaker 3: the same reason why I've made the iPad Pro the
Speaker 3: main computer for me because it's fun. Filming content has
Speaker 3: become fun and I get excited to put out a
Speaker 3: video daily because of this little uh sucker. And I
Speaker 3: keep experimenting. You made comments about my lights. I'm experimenting
Speaker 3: with formats and stuff like that. So as a creator,
Speaker 3: the Pro is the first profone that feels like a pro,
Speaker 3: whereas for everybody else, the base model iPhone is the
Speaker 3: best value that you can get for any of it,
Speaker 3: which is why my wife got it. And the Air,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know where that lines up
Speaker 3: besides your review that I watched. I don't understand what
Speaker 3: the Air's function is when it's next to the iPhone
Speaker 3: seventeen base model, which is why I want to live
Speaker 3: with it for at least a month. Yeah, at least
Speaker 3: through the holiday season, so I can better understand it,
Speaker 3: and then I can, you know, formulate the opinion. But
Speaker 3: that doesn't change the fact that I'm going to be
Speaker 3: sticking with the seventeen Pro.
Speaker 2: Okay, perfect.
Speaker 4: I enjoyed holding the Air when you had it, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I remember you were.
Speaker 1: You kept saying, I'm impressed by the design. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't want one, but I'm impressed.
Speaker 2: Ie flirted with it for a little bit.
Speaker 5: I'm like Apple in a nutshell.
Speaker 4: All the camera was it sixteen or eight or twelve lenses?
Speaker 1: It's like having fifty seven lenses in your pocket because
Speaker 1: you can zoom in.
Speaker 2: At like fifty seven different intervals.
Speaker 4: Right, So still slightly blurry on photos by the way,
Speaker 4: I take photos like this looks a little bit better
Speaker 4: than the fourteen, but.
Speaker 3: You're holding it wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what'd you Carter have to do with this?
Speaker 1: Well, that's a good question for the panel. Why do
Speaker 1: you think Apple made the air? What's the rationale behind it?
Speaker 4: My theory is that they're gonna put two airs together,
Speaker 4: okay and make a fold, So it's.
Speaker 2: Purely a manufacturing exercise.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think the air will still be around
Speaker 1: when the fold comes?
Speaker 4: Well, they can't eliminate all of them on earth, so yeah,
Speaker 4: they just they take them all back and crush them
Speaker 4: like GM.
Speaker 2: It'll be great, ev one. Yeah, they're at least.
Speaker 5: Why I don't want to work with GM, that's right.
Speaker 3: I was like, there's a reason why I don't like them.
Speaker 3: I don't care what they do with the bolt.
Speaker 4: That's a conversation for another podcast, and you take that name.
Speaker 2: Out of your day.
Speaker 3: Okay, j John Turner, that's his story for another day.
Speaker 3: Are soon to be next CEO?
Speaker 1: You better be careful. We gotta yeah, we gotta respect
Speaker 1: the turn us. He's taking over soon. I think turn out.
Speaker 3: Turna wait, wait your turn us.
Speaker 2: So we gone back to the sixteen we kind of jumped.
Speaker 3: Now we're talking about the phone now that I'm over
Speaker 3: the sixteen E.
Speaker 5: That that was first half of the year problems.
Speaker 2: The question was why did Apple make the air?
Speaker 3: That was a question, and that was the question.
Speaker 2: You know your your explanation. Do you agree, Randy? What's Randy?
Speaker 3: I do feel it's not solely an exercise of manufacturing,
Speaker 3: but I do think that's an element is to gauge
Speaker 3: one the stressors that they do on the back end
Speaker 3: to produce these things as well as and not just
Speaker 3: like four I'm talking. I'm talking about that too. See
Speaker 3: one x uh, the.
Speaker 5: The plateau, the housing of the plateau.
Speaker 1: I went and saw that coming one with the sixteen
Speaker 1: E and then one x months later.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: That that feels like the iPad.
Speaker 3: That feels like the iPad when they did thirty pen
Speaker 3: and then six months later, lightning different.
Speaker 5: So how often do you guys think about the Roman Empire.
Speaker 2: Daily? One? X is my Roman Empire? Put that in
Speaker 2: the sixteen? I don't care. It wasn't read the Roman
Speaker 2: Empire in the sixteen? Yeah, I don't care. So do
Speaker 2: you think.
Speaker 4: It's an exercise in manufacturing but also partly facilitate.
Speaker 3: The C one partly there there because this is the
Speaker 3: first I believe this is the first device that's completely
Speaker 3: all in house with connectivity. Everything's done in house, and
Speaker 3: the air minus, like some of the aesthetic or compromises
Speaker 3: that they went with, is a Gen one stress tester,
Speaker 3: which like the like the regular or the OG two
Speaker 3: g iPhone or the iPad. There was things. There was
Speaker 3: a lot of noticeable compromises with the first product, but
Speaker 3: then the second one was instantly like that. So I
Speaker 3: do believe that we will get another iPhone air at
Speaker 3: least one more year. I don't know what happens after
Speaker 3: the twentieth anniversary. That part is up in the air,
Speaker 3: but I do think we'll get it again next year
Speaker 3: because typically under at least Tim Cook's reign, assuming he
Speaker 3: is still around by twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5: No product only has a one year life.
Speaker 3: So even if it knows is not performing well, we
Speaker 3: had twelve minis, had one fourteen, fourteen plus, fifteen plus.
Speaker 3: Uh actually deven did sixteen plus. Even though things he's
Speaker 3: selling well, I said, the mini's already they had. I know,
Speaker 3: we got to have our thing.
Speaker 5: Let's put it.
Speaker 3: Put our listening ears on children.
Speaker 1: It's been so long, I'm rusty. I couldn't even remember
Speaker 1: when air punts Pro too launched.
Speaker 5: I'm like, and you're the apple sheep you.
Speaker 2: Every day. I don't even have a seventeen like the
Speaker 2: rest of you.
Speaker 3: Who is this poser?
Speaker 4: I've been tying the guy in my house this whole time,
Speaker 4: and he's not leaving.
Speaker 3: I do think, I do think that the air is
Speaker 3: a precursor is a folding phone though, So yeah, for
Speaker 3: all things considering, that's I think. I think the lineup
Speaker 3: is going to look something more like iPhone fold, iPhone Air,
Speaker 3: iPhone Pro, bas iPhone number and I think that's what
Speaker 3: that's more or less going to look like and env
Speaker 3: But now I guess in twenty twenty six we're not
Speaker 3: going to get an iPhone eighteen that was that's if
Speaker 3: the rumors are true, that the deployment of that is
Speaker 3: going to get pushed to be more aligned with the
Speaker 3: iPhone blank E and then the base model of the
Speaker 3: same blank however.
Speaker 4: Blank Everyone's kids just perked up right there.
Speaker 2: So that's a good theory. Though.
Speaker 3: The fall, the fall timeline, in my opinion, is going
Speaker 3: to consist of a fold, an air and a pro
Speaker 3: and then from anniversary something or whatever more again that
Speaker 3: that's that's.
Speaker 2: My suspectly expensive iPhones next year for the holidays is expensive.
Speaker 2: The only one that's expensive is the base one. The
Speaker 2: Air will be the cheapest one.
Speaker 3: I okay, yeah, do you guys think here's my theory,
Speaker 3: and I want your guys to feedback. I think the
Speaker 3: Air is going to be the new standard. That's going
Speaker 3: to be the new iPhone uh out the way iPhone
Speaker 3: ten became iPhone eleven ten are as well. But like
Speaker 3: I think the design language of how thin it is
Speaker 3: and everything's done in the house, the Air will have
Speaker 3: its air and then you'll have the iPhone take on
Speaker 3: that form factor no different. Then there's really no difference
Speaker 3: between an iPad AIR and an iPad when you do
Speaker 3: a side by side from aesthetics, a loan I think
Speaker 3: that's what's gonna start happening with design language, and the
Speaker 3: air is launching pad to that, and assuming all goes
Speaker 3: well with all these reviewers who aren't keeping the phone,
Speaker 3: that that that's that's what we're heading with it, and
Speaker 3: it's it's gonna be so synonymous with Apple being luxury,
Speaker 3: jewelry and everything all things that is make it Apple
Speaker 3: tax that they'll take that form factor and then make
Speaker 3: that part of the fold as well. So I think
Speaker 3: that design language will exist for the masses and the
Speaker 3: pros will continue to just be pro by design function
Speaker 3: over form.
Speaker 4: I think people are going to be riding the streets
Speaker 4: over losing six to eight lenses on their phone.
Speaker 2: That's lenses that's.
Speaker 1: Off right, That's another way of looking at it. So
Speaker 1: does that mean the base model would be titanium?
Speaker 2: That feels wrong? I know, I don't. Maybe it won't
Speaker 2: stay No, maybe no.
Speaker 3: I don't think it will stay titanium. My brain went
Speaker 3: to the iPhone ten R that.
Speaker 2: Was illuminum, but it wasn't that. It wasn't so thick.
Speaker 1: I feel like the titanium is kind of key to
Speaker 1: hitting that thinness.
Speaker 3: I suspect aluminum. Maybe they'll incorporate whatever new design is
Speaker 3: happening here to a certain caliber where it's so sturdy.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Bending is their focus point when it
Speaker 3: comes to a thicker A thicker profit margin is what
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get at. I don't feel like I
Speaker 3: don't feel like the aluminum by like where I'm getting asked,
Speaker 3: you could not bend the twelve Mini and the thirteen Mini,
Speaker 3: and those were aluminium. Those were the smallest, and those
Speaker 3: were your most potential. The plus size aluminums also weren't
Speaker 3: really bendable if you try really really hard. Yes, more
Speaker 3: susceptible to bending than the titanium of the air, but
Speaker 3: like you really got to get in there and be
Speaker 3: a Jerry rig Everything.
Speaker 4: Or whatever it was in the days of the iPhone six.
Speaker 3: Are done.
Speaker 2: I'm waiting for the plastic ones to come back. The
Speaker 2: five E is the c Yeah, bring that back with
Speaker 2: the new air. Oh that'd be cool. Yeah, I'd like
Speaker 2: that more color. That's my whole thing.
Speaker 5: So stay on that trail with me for a second.
Speaker 3: Do you guys, do you not believe then that that
Speaker 3: form factor will take on the base model iPhones as well?
Speaker 3: You think it's just going to stay as the air
Speaker 3: then or what do you think?
Speaker 2: It's a good question.
Speaker 3: I don't ask questions.
Speaker 1: My suspicion, knowing how Apple tends to do things, is
Speaker 1: kind of how the sixteen E phased out the SE.
Speaker 1: Remember how we kept expecting the SE to come back
Speaker 1: and then it just went away in favor of Well,
Speaker 1: but this one's so much better. It's O lad, it's
Speaker 1: face I D. There's no more.
Speaker 3: Homebody Apple intelligence.
Speaker 1: It's got a I right, but it's all so like
Speaker 1: two hundred dollars more. My suspicion is that there's gonna
Speaker 1: be too much overlap in not twenty twenty six, but
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty seven. We're allegedly getting the eighteen regular
Speaker 1: and the eighteen E around the same time. So like
Speaker 1: one will be one hundred and twenty hertz with two
Speaker 1: cameras on the back, and one will be one camera,
Speaker 1: maybe no mag safe and no one hundred and twenty herts,
Speaker 1: and there will be such a big price gap between
Speaker 1: those two that most will go for the cheaper one
Speaker 1: because the most people are stupid, And then the regular
Speaker 1: base model will get phased out, and the idea of
Speaker 1: having a sub one thousand dollars iPhone with a dual camera.
Speaker 1: My guess is that's gonna go away, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: slowly inch up the pricing ladder and just the E
Speaker 1: will will stick aroun but not the regular, So you'll
Speaker 1: have long term you'll have like iPhone twenty pro, twenty
Speaker 1: pro Max.
Speaker 2: There will be an.
Speaker 1: Air maybe if people keep buying it, there will be
Speaker 1: an iPhone, a folding iPhone which I think they'll call Ultra,
Speaker 1: and then the regular model will just become the E
Speaker 1: and it'll be one camera and it'll.
Speaker 2: Have sixty hertz and then we'll be back in this.
Speaker 2: Why does it have to be E? Economy efficiency?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but why have the either that's so unclean? Just
Speaker 4: nothing after it?
Speaker 1: Just because then you have to say regular or base anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like if I said, if I said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: Mike has an iPhone seventeen, but that's technically not true.
Speaker 2: You have a seventeen pro yea.
Speaker 4: If I don't have a seventeen Yeah, but if I could.
Speaker 1: Refer to it as he does not have a seventeen E,
Speaker 1: he has a seventeen pro. Oh, that's technically like fewer
Speaker 1: letters and syllables than saying base or a regular, because
Speaker 1: that's what people come up with their own suffix. Anyway,
Speaker 1: if you don't attach one to it, people will say.
Speaker 4: Like subtracting range from the word standard range.
Speaker 2: So standard, yeah, exactly, the base the regular. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: now you're adding something instead of subtracting something.
Speaker 1: I just don't see a scenario in which, like we
Speaker 1: get six iPhones a year.
Speaker 2: No, that sounds ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I don't think something's gonna get phased out. Either it's
Speaker 1: the air or it's the regular. My guess is it's
Speaker 1: going to be the regular, and then the E will
Speaker 1: stick around. Is the cheaper model.
Speaker 4: My oppression is that the E just comes and goes
Speaker 4: as it pleases. Okay, I think that's just the Christmas
Speaker 4: special that comes not on Christmas.
Speaker 2: Kind of like this, yeah, okay, sorry, what you're gonna know?
Speaker 2: You're good?
Speaker 3: You're good, You're good. I feel something is going to
Speaker 3: get phased out, but I think it's going to be
Speaker 3: the Promax.
Speaker 1: Oh god, please know that's the best selling pro a
Speaker 1: bigger one.
Speaker 3: The one that takes its slot is this new twentieth
Speaker 3: anniversary folding, Like whatever is happening that's going to upsell
Speaker 3: because here's my thing. Here's my thing. Apple has gone
Speaker 3: this long without price increases, and I think we're going
Speaker 3: to get a jumpin price the way we did with
Speaker 3: the iPhone ten. And I think it's going to be
Speaker 3: a fifteen or seventeen hundred dollars or even a two
Speaker 3: thousand dollars iPhone. I believe the folding iPhone, this ultra
Speaker 3: that you might want to call it, is going to
Speaker 3: be the.
Speaker 5: Priciest one because it's the most versatile, and I feel
Speaker 5: people who go.
Speaker 3: Towards that are the same demographics that go towards the
Speaker 3: pro maxes. And if you drop the pro max for
Speaker 3: something that's giving you just as much more screen, real estate,
Speaker 3: more battery, more everything, then that's the one that goes away.
Speaker 3: So now the lineup would looks something like iPhone nineteen,
Speaker 3: e iPhone Air, iPhone, folding whatever, and I phone fro.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, my Apple sheep muscles are slowly coming back,
Speaker 1: because I here's why I disagree from what's been from
Speaker 1: what's been rumored of the harder of the folding iPhone,
Speaker 1: it's not going to match the promax in camera it's
Speaker 1: rumored to be on the folding model, an ultra wide
Speaker 1: and a main but not a telephoto, and it's rumored
Speaker 1: to have a fingerprint scanner on the side, not face ID.
Speaker 2: I like that, so some.
Speaker 1: People might prefer that, but it's kind of a toss
Speaker 1: up on you know, which one, and I think most
Speaker 1: of us would agree the folding iPhone will probably be
Speaker 1: the most expensive, right, like, yeah, you've got double the screen.
Speaker 3: I am wholeheartedly inconvenienced in that the unification of software
Speaker 3: is to prep for this folding phone that's going to
Speaker 3: do an iPad os iOS combo, while we eventually want
Speaker 3: to get these wearables that are going to mimic Vision
Speaker 3: Pro but not in Vision Pro, just be Vision os Light.
Speaker 3: So I think what's happening is all this software is
Speaker 3: converging to where if the design language is the same
Speaker 3: and the interactions and how you engage with it is
Speaker 3: more and less the same, then the hardware is the
Speaker 3: only true variable. For the most part, you have the
Speaker 3: twenty to twenty five percent of like, oh, well telephoto,
Speaker 3: if you want an Apple pencil, if you like, There
Speaker 3: are outliners there, but for your your your main drivers here,
Speaker 3: I think with the software being so all unified, the
Speaker 3: best Gen. One test subject will be that folding phone
Speaker 3: to see how that works, where we might get Apple's
Speaker 3: version of Apple Decks or what if they call Stage
Speaker 3: Manager or whatever they want to call it, and that's
Speaker 3: that's going to be the all in one device that
Speaker 3: people have begged for for years that Apple.
Speaker 5: Is like, yes, now here you go.
Speaker 3: There is virtually no difference between iPad os and iOS
Speaker 3: except the fact that they want to give all of
Speaker 3: those Mac like features to the iPad os and it
Speaker 3: only makes sense when you have a bigger screen, real styere.
Speaker 3: We have multiple windows or multiple apps or whatever you
Speaker 3: want to call them, and all the things that they've
Speaker 3: been testing out now with iOS twenty six is laying
Speaker 3: that foundation for habit and repetition and getting familiar with it.
Speaker 3: So when this folding phone comes out, that is that's
Speaker 3: the new and what I feel is going to be
Speaker 3: the new Pro, but not call it a PRO because
Speaker 3: we associate pro with camera battery and up until this
Speaker 3: year promotion. Now Pro to me is all things GPU
Speaker 3: with as much cameras that you could throw at it,
Speaker 3: chalk it out, make it the best battery possible, do
Speaker 3: everything that you can on the Pro that compromises off
Speaker 3: form for function. But the folding phone is that design
Speaker 3: is not just how, it's how you use it.
Speaker 5: The form is the function, and the function is the form.
Speaker 2: With the folding fits how it works.
Speaker 3: It just works. And honestly, I think if John Turnas
Speaker 3: is really in my head slightly still thinking about this
Speaker 3: new CEO thing that's happening, I don't think anything that
Speaker 3: we're familiar with over the last ten years with Apple
Speaker 3: will function the same way under this new leadership. And
Speaker 3: I think that's too Apple's I think that's the betterment
Speaker 3: of Apple and how they do product releases and software
Speaker 3: releases and stuff like that, because I think we can
Speaker 3: all agree the hardware has for a very long time
Speaker 3: been on points. Software is what's been lagging. Sorry Craig,
Speaker 3: you're not gonna get the job, but hardware has been
Speaker 3: fiity and take that same energy and trickle down to
Speaker 3: services and everything else like that too. That's the Apple.
Speaker 3: I think that's the vision of new innovation we will see,
Speaker 3: and it really has to just do with how we
Speaker 3: choose to engage with all these devices. Apple Watch will
Speaker 3: be exactly the same, no changes on the Apple Watch.
Speaker 1: Every figured they've figured it all out.
Speaker 2: There's nothing to add.
Speaker 3: They figured it out seven years ago.
Speaker 2: Drew, mm hmm, oh, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I think you're wrong because for the exact reason you're
Speaker 1: not gonna rock a base iPhone seventeen. We're gonna keep
Speaker 1: calling it that while we can. You want a telephoto
Speaker 1: lens and guess what, the folding phone's not.
Speaker 2: Gonna have.
Speaker 3: Never say never, maybe not the first gen. I really
Speaker 3: feel like, uh, I don't think telephoto is as important
Speaker 3: out of all the lenses. But yeah, but what.
Speaker 1: But you're not rocking the base model for no one
Speaker 1: specific reason.
Speaker 3: To two specific reasons, Apple logue, telephone, the log. I
Speaker 3: use telephoto more way wait, wait, way more. The only
Speaker 3: time I ever used log is when I'm making the
Speaker 3: content and so block out an hour of a twenty
Speaker 3: four hour day. Everything else is telephoto.
Speaker 2: But people get log on the folding phone.
Speaker 3: That's something worth considering. But here's the thing, Like I I,
Speaker 3: I feel the sensors are just gonna keep getting improved
Speaker 3: to where telephoto won't be telephoto, it will be this uh.
Speaker 2: Seventeen lenses, periscope, periscope.
Speaker 3: I feel like the we can only you know true depth,
Speaker 3: optical we can only do that right now, we stay
Speaker 3: at two for everything because everything's forty eight megapixels, but
Speaker 3: that we're peak megapixels at this point. Everything has a
Speaker 3: to function for each lens ultra wide, macro wide, ankle
Speaker 3: two x zoom, which for years was telephoto. Then you
Speaker 3: have telephoto and you have bigger telephoto, and all of
Speaker 3: them are in increments of two steps, so point five
Speaker 3: times two.
Speaker 5: Now you got you're moving up one one to shoot or.
Speaker 3: To eight, and then after eight it's all just straight
Speaker 3: uh digital zooms and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: There's nothing to optical about it.
Speaker 3: I don't feel like Apple can do anymore with the
Speaker 3: cameras now, and that's intentional, as we are ending this
Speaker 3: era of iPhone.
Speaker 9: This is whether you like it or hate it. This
Speaker 9: is peat dad bod. This is the optical father form
Speaker 9: for mail.
Speaker 3: And I believe that we can't we can't use all
Speaker 3: my body. We can't do any more with the cameras.
Speaker 3: So where we make those improvements is in all these
Speaker 3: fake zooming capabilities that has some post processing, a pipeline
Speaker 3: that it goes through to you know, have be lossless.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah blah, who cares. I don't
Speaker 3: think you need a telephoto the way we're using telephotos now.
Speaker 3: I use the sucker so I can look at the
Speaker 3: top of mountains and stuff like that, not because let
Speaker 3: me get that good portrait shout of you. That's what
Speaker 3: the main sensor is for. That's ninety nine percent of
Speaker 3: people who have that stuff. One of the other one
Speaker 3: percent is people who live in Colorado. You were going
Speaker 3: to say something and then yeah, what's up?
Speaker 4: Like, Oh, I was gonna go the whole different path.
Speaker 4: I was happy that you said you're wrong. And here's
Speaker 4: why he's more entertaining than what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: Oh good, I do. I do still use my telephoto,
Speaker 1: which is a five X, not a.
Speaker 2: Four which is not what the new one is for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a four X, but it's a forty eight
Speaker 1: megapixel four X, whereas mine is a twelve megapixel five X.
Speaker 1: But most of the time you're not taking what do
Speaker 1: you call it full res uh res max? What the
Speaker 1: the option you'd go in settings where it actually takes
Speaker 1: a forty eight megapixel picture.
Speaker 2: Usually you can do it with raw, but it's not
Speaker 2: exclusively braw.
Speaker 3: No, you're talking about heath.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Max Heath, max heats.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at it right now.
Speaker 2: H E high efficiency image.
Speaker 3: No, h E.
Speaker 2: I c oh codec. It's one of those.
Speaker 1: Oh go ahead, I will say, especially when I'm at
Speaker 1: work taking all kinds of pictures of.
Speaker 2: That's a wonderful photo at work. A specific road like
Speaker 2: this is probably a good example. Yeah, this is the telephoto.
Speaker 2: I think I saw it on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a portrait mode shot. If people Boka doesn't
Speaker 1: like it, there you go, thank you, Mike. But I
Speaker 1: personally think the Boka portrait mode shots look best the
Speaker 1: further away you can get.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you taught me that the other day. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: we were at the I haven't used portrait mode ever.
Speaker 2: Was like, have you heard of portrait mode?
Speaker 1: I'm like, now, because there was a stack of pumpkins.
Speaker 1: We were like, we were there with our wives. It's like,
Speaker 1: let's get pictures. But yeah, but it's like, how do
Speaker 1: we get the pumpkins to fill the entire background when
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people and we can't get too
Speaker 1: close or whatever. It was like, well, you just back
Speaker 1: up a ton and then zoom way in and now
Speaker 1: this small thing that if you tried to do it
Speaker 1: on the one X lens.
Speaker 2: It would have looked lame.
Speaker 1: It would have been like, we're standing here, here's a
Speaker 1: tiny pile of pumpkins behind us, and then a parking lot.
Speaker 2: But instead you narrow the what do you call it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, focal compression. Thank you, Randy, And that came out great.
Speaker 1: Those shots were someone did a very cool so side tangent.
Speaker 4: I was scrolling Instagram the other day and someone was
Speaker 4: doing a really neat thing with that. Or some viewers
Speaker 4: or listeners might know this, or I've seen it. This
Speaker 4: guy's on top of a mountain and like there's another
Speaker 4: mountain way far away, and then he starts kind of
Speaker 4: pulling it in.
Speaker 2: Like he's got a rope on it.
Speaker 4: But what the cameraman does is he starts like pretty
Speaker 4: much hiking it backward as fast as he can, back
Speaker 4: pedaling while keeping the guy in the shot, and then
Speaker 4: changing the field of view so that way that the
Speaker 4: mountain goes from really far away and starts coming or
Speaker 4: appears to start coming closer and closer and closer, like
Speaker 4: the guy is pulling it.
Speaker 2: With the rope.
Speaker 4: So that was a really great demonstration.
Speaker 3: Of how that works in one of his music videos
Speaker 3: where he's he looks like he's growing and he's shrinking
Speaker 3: to the background of what's happening.
Speaker 2: Well, go back to the Jaws movie. Isn't that the original?
Speaker 1: They're like they put the camera on a dolly and
Speaker 1: as they as they move the No, as they move
Speaker 1: the camera away from Rob Schneider.
Speaker 2: No, it's.
Speaker 1: Something the protogonists. They zoom in simultaneously and.
Speaker 2: It narrows that depth.
Speaker 1: And it just it's trippy. It's a good effect. But
Speaker 1: all that to say, I guess my running thesis is
Speaker 1: I don't think the folding phone's going to replace the
Speaker 1: Promax because I don't think most people are going to
Speaker 1: prefer it, even though in many ways it will be
Speaker 1: like the best of the best, because.
Speaker 2: It's got two screens, and it's got touch Idea again,
Speaker 2: and it's got ipedos or a version of it on
Speaker 2: the inside. I think that.
Speaker 1: What's really taught me to be skeptical is when I've
Speaker 1: reviewed folding phones in the past, people don't want to
Speaker 1: have two different ways of using something, and that's why
Speaker 1: the landscape home screen has died. Like on the iPhone
Speaker 1: eight plus and seven plus, he used to be able
Speaker 1: to use it in landscape. They got rid of that.
Speaker 1: And also, vertical video is booming these days because people
Speaker 1: don't even have the energy to do this.
Speaker 2: No, that's too much work.
Speaker 1: They would rather be on their phone this way and
Speaker 1: just scroll and have the video be optimized for this orientation,
Speaker 1: simply so they can avoid doing this. So the idea
Speaker 1: that people are going to get comfortable unfolding.
Speaker 4: I think it's for a different demographic. But you do
Speaker 4: have a point with the fact that now on the
Speaker 4: seventeen pros there's now a square sensor in there.
Speaker 2: Is it on the regular as well? Yeah, they all
Speaker 2: got it.
Speaker 4: Okay, so instead of being rectangular, square, so you don't
Speaker 4: even have to turn your phone sideways for a selfie.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's another example. It's like, that's too much work.
Speaker 2: Don't make me do this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, just hold it vertically, which I thought that
Speaker 4: was the same case for the back camera sensors.
Speaker 2: But oh, that would have been cool. You can do it.
Speaker 1: And I remember pitching that I probably don't have the
Speaker 1: video ready, but I remember.
Speaker 3: Go away back, I remember right here, Drew right.
Speaker 1: I just remember there was a time where I hated
Speaker 1: vertical video with a passion, and I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was making a phone. I would make the sensor
Speaker 1: square so that it would be impossible to film things
Speaker 1: in vertical.
Speaker 2: This isn't exactly that. The opposite, Well, this is like you.
Speaker 1: Can switch to landscape without having to move the phone.
Speaker 1: My idea was that if you film this way, it's landscape.
Speaker 1: If you film this way, it's also landscape. If you
Speaker 1: don't want landscape, screw you.
Speaker 4: I did that with my wife and I said, did
Speaker 4: you know that's why I did?
Speaker 2: And she said, no, what did you do?
Speaker 4: I'm like, look now it's wide viewer, it's landscape.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: She's like, oh, okay, same story here.
Speaker 3: Did you film or take a photo photo?
Speaker 2: That's my film? Oh?
Speaker 4: Is it more dynamic if it suddenly goes to video.
Speaker 2: No, it's the same.
Speaker 5: It's still square sensor.
Speaker 2: It's still square.
Speaker 1: But what was handy was, as you could probably tell,
Speaker 1: I've been filming in the car a lit no what
Speaker 1: exclusively and not having to hold the phone like this
Speaker 1: as I was recording. Yeah, I could actually just hold
Speaker 1: it like this and it's still landscape. That actually felt
Speaker 1: more comfortable and more natural. The only problem was I
Speaker 1: kept wanting to look at the viewfinder, and it is
Speaker 1: much more noticeable when your eyes aren't looking at the center,
Speaker 1: when they're going down to the center of the phone,
Speaker 1: whereas this way.
Speaker 4: It's on the same. There's no difference. Sorry, there's no
Speaker 4: distance between.
Speaker 2: Not vertically.
Speaker 1: Yeah, left to right a little off if you're recording
Speaker 1: a video of yourself on the store.
Speaker 4: Right now, I look at Randy than looking at us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like a slight, slight difference. But when it's vertical, it's.
Speaker 2: Like, hey, guys, you know you're looking way down here,
Speaker 2: and it's more noticeable. But I did like it.
Speaker 1: That one time wasn't enough for me to justify keeping it,
Speaker 1: because sixteen promacts is still going strong, and more importantly
Speaker 1: is on iOS eighteen.
Speaker 3: Oh here we go. The monkey is saved the best
Speaker 3: for a last.
Speaker 2: Hey, gotta be more. I made to be fair.
Speaker 4: I was the OG in this because I did not upgrade.
Speaker 2: From you never iOS seventeen, or you were on seventeen
Speaker 2: and then you went straight to twenty six.
Speaker 4: So many versions of iOS.
Speaker 1: It skipt like nine generations, but which I appreciated because
Speaker 1: so many people told me, don't.
Speaker 2: Go with the new iOS.
Speaker 4: They ruined the photos app, and then now I'm on
Speaker 4: twenty six and actually, to be frank, there's not much
Speaker 4: of a difference between iOS seventeen and iOS twenty six.
Speaker 10: I don't know if there's ever I don't know if
Speaker 10: there's ever been a difference in your mind, then if
Speaker 10: the difference between seventeen and twenty six isn't that big,
Speaker 10: there is no big iOS update.
Speaker 2: Yes that's Apple.
Speaker 1: Mike could go from like iOS four because that's as
Speaker 1: old as it went nerds all the way to twenty six.
Speaker 2: And be like loser.
Speaker 3: A bad joke.
Speaker 1: It wasn't called iOS back then. Oh they used to
Speaker 1: call it, Frank, it was I think it was called
Speaker 1: OS ten.
Speaker 2: It was just on the phone.
Speaker 1: Yes, Steve Jobs, at the first iPhone on nailing it
Speaker 1: was iOS.
Speaker 2: It was iPhone iPhone OS.
Speaker 1: But at the very first unveiling you can fact check me,
Speaker 1: he said the iPhone runs OS ten.
Speaker 5: A modified version of OS ten is what he called it.
Speaker 2: Very slightly modified.
Speaker 3: It's as slightly it's as slightly as we modify iPad os.
Speaker 3: But the reason why he said OS ten is because
Speaker 3: iPad os was not a thing yet.
Speaker 1: So oh no, I wasn't the thing until after he
Speaker 1: commit oofed commit oof what fruit he breathed with fruit
Speaker 1: cancer here.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't want to get demonetized on my
Speaker 2: dead channel.
Speaker 3: I am so cute. So what the the analytics are
Speaker 3: going to show out of this?
Speaker 2: So anyways, you love iOS eighteen?
Speaker 1: No, I still hate it, but I don't get more
Speaker 1: than Sorry, Craig, how do you like twenty six?
Speaker 3: I enjoy it?
Speaker 2: Good, Randy? I like the bubbles. Do you like the bubbles?
Speaker 2: Do you like the glassy feel?
Speaker 3: I love it everything about iOS twenty six everything, huh everything?
Speaker 2: So bound, go ahead, go ahead, very.
Speaker 3: Ask me put me in a category. I love it.
Speaker 2: I just showed Mike that you can like swipe through
Speaker 2: things like that. Sorry, just making sure.
Speaker 5: You are gonna have you guys are gonna have a
Speaker 5: lot of fun.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: I'm just going through modifications.
Speaker 1: So I think this is what people were asking us
Speaker 1: to fight about.
Speaker 3: Okay, starting with the.
Speaker 2: Lock screen from the top, use case you got a
Speaker 2: side with Randy.
Speaker 5: You can move, you can move all the all the compilations.
Speaker 2: At the bottom.
Speaker 3: I'm trying it out. I'm even doing it with the watch.
Speaker 3: I'm I wanted to see what the impact on battery
Speaker 3: was going to look like and I don't notice anything.
Speaker 3: So I figured, it's this is my first promotion with
Speaker 3: always on display and everything, why not go crazy with it.
Speaker 3: But custom was.
Speaker 2: Never about battery life.
Speaker 5: It's about it is about this rude off.
Speaker 1: It's it's that when I shut that screen off, what
Speaker 1: I see is a reflection of myself knowing that this
Speaker 1: is an extension, not an accessory.
Speaker 2: Sorry I'm quoting too much. Job.
Speaker 4: I was thinking, Alfred and Alina, do you have the
Speaker 4: power of the sun in the palm.
Speaker 2: Of your hand?
Speaker 3: Look at you all grown up?
Speaker 2: With iOS twenty six.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with iOS twenty six. So so the lock screen,
Speaker 3: starting with the lock screen it has the carousel, is
Speaker 3: a better use of space. Now you can move all
Speaker 3: the compilations down to the bottom, which now you can
Speaker 3: actually have compilations and depth of field with the timepiece,
Speaker 3: I use a mountainous things. So you know that is
Speaker 3: pritty purpose. It's a filler. But uh, everything about the
Speaker 3: device now when it when it goes to engaging with
Speaker 3: it feels it's it's the second version of iOS seven.
Speaker 3: It's the second coming of iOS seven. Go ahead, and
Speaker 3: I know there's a joke in there. Grab it.
Speaker 2: Seven plus seven is not twenty six. Now six will
Speaker 2: always feel weird.
Speaker 5: It does really that there.
Speaker 3: That's why I don't like about iOS twenty six, the name,
Speaker 3: especially that.
Speaker 2: It was unveiled that dubbed UB twenty five.
Speaker 5: Which was in June. We weren't even halfway through the
Speaker 5: year yet.
Speaker 3: What day of June, early June, it doesn't matter, you're
Speaker 3: not halfway through the year until.
Speaker 2: July could be a leap yer.
Speaker 3: Still July. I like, I like the oh wow, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know what, screw it, let's let's just gloves off
Speaker 3: or just god.
Speaker 5: I like the updates to AI that is on this phone.
Speaker 2: What did they change with they?
Speaker 3: I I don't know what is happening on the back
Speaker 3: end because I don't use it. But it's it's less,
Speaker 3: it's feeling less beta. In regards to the notification summaries,
Speaker 3: it doesn't botch the summaries as a whole. I actually
Speaker 3: get like relevant information off.
Speaker 5: Toggle that sucker back on.
Speaker 3: You can use the you can use the new content.
Speaker 3: You don't have new products.
Speaker 1: I genuinely hate the notification summaries. They irk me to
Speaker 1: my core.
Speaker 4: I like anything anything, and sometimes it's good.
Speaker 2: Other times I.
Speaker 1: Don't trust it, and it makes me actually more paranoid.
Speaker 1: It makes me want to read the message more regularly.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is what did it really say? What
Speaker 1: is it trying to say? I don't believe it? And
Speaker 1: then I read it, I'm like, oh, there was a
Speaker 1: bunch of context that mattered with punctuation and with timing,
Speaker 1: and I'll oftentimes give me a super vague summary that
Speaker 1: makes me more nervous.
Speaker 4: So if I send you Bob Bob Steve, I'm.
Speaker 3: Not gonna it's most likely that's not gonna even get summarized.
Speaker 3: They'll just summarize because because it needs it needs some
Speaker 3: context to like, uh, to give you a summary of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it needs something, but no, especially with UH, you know,
Speaker 1: for the first time in many years, Like I have
Speaker 1: bosses now that text me quite a bit, And when
Speaker 1: I get a text from them and it's summarizing it,
Speaker 1: like I get weird. Same thing with emails, it just
Speaker 1: makes me go, what did that really mean?
Speaker 2: What is it? And then I have to go in
Speaker 2: to check it. No, that was not a good summary.
Speaker 1: And then I find myself reviewing the summaries constantly of
Speaker 1: just like, no, I can't trust this one.
Speaker 2: I can't so I genuinely.
Speaker 3: When when and when was this?
Speaker 2: This wasn't recent, No, this was when it first came out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say turn it back on for a
Speaker 3: day or a couple of days and just run within
Speaker 3: see because it's from my LA. So that's that would
Speaker 3: be very interesting to see. Is it an iOS eighteen
Speaker 3: slash iOS twenty six upgrade or is it that the
Speaker 3: beta is just getting more refined everything that I get
Speaker 3: for summer. I love the filtering that's in iOS twenty six.
Speaker 3: For text phone calls spam, I don't get any of
Speaker 3: that stuff no more.
Speaker 4: Mind I'm on hold when I'm not on hold, which
Speaker 4: is very entertaining, or says, do you want us to
Speaker 4: tell you when you're not on hold anymore? Press this button?
Speaker 4: I never press it.
Speaker 2: Because I'm I will.
Speaker 4: Tell me that I'm not on hold anymore, and then
Speaker 4: oh I waited fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3: I don't make many phone calls, so I don't know
Speaker 3: about the holding. But I get a lot of spam
Speaker 3: and the filtering system is out the gate day one
Speaker 3: on boxing the phone is s tire I love and
Speaker 3: I love that it over filters because some people I
Speaker 3: don't really care to see their text.
Speaker 5: Too if I have them saved.
Speaker 3: But it automatic enough.
Speaker 2: Why you haven't answered my text?
Speaker 3: Okay, right back when I in May of twenty twenty five,
Speaker 3: when there was no sorry, it was debata, say, if
Speaker 3: you have a contact saved, it's going to bypass all
Speaker 3: the filters and come straight to you with notifications for
Speaker 3: the text or phone calls or voicemails or whatever. But verification,
Speaker 3: garification codes not a thing. Those aud it has been
Speaker 3: getting deleted. But worse than that, it's.
Speaker 2: Like he is on fire red interruption, So notifications. I'm
Speaker 2: using the breathe app.
Speaker 5: Honey me, we just got furloughed.
Speaker 2: Honey, Apple is suing us.
Speaker 3: I got another leak video coming soon.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and this is a review unit too, boll.
Speaker 3: Not from Apple. It ain't sponsorships don't count. That didn't
Speaker 3: come from Apple. That didn't come from everything.
Speaker 2: A review unit now? Sorry?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, me, just sorry. I didn't buy this. Apple
Speaker 3: sent me this, change my mind, put me wrong?
Speaker 2: Whatever, Oh boy, okay, I'll turn it back there.
Speaker 3: I would say, just just give it.
Speaker 6: A try, give it, uh, run with it for a
Speaker 6: couple of days and see if you've knowed an improvement.
Speaker 3: For hours.
Speaker 4: So I was making note of it's nine to twelve
Speaker 4: exactly right.
Speaker 2: So we'll see how long it lasts.
Speaker 3: We will rally back next time we record next year,
Speaker 3: and we'll see if that worked.
Speaker 2: So as soon as we end the show, it's going.
Speaker 3: It is done. So the filtering system I enjoy a lot.
Speaker 3: I like, I like the updates to the photos app
Speaker 3: suck it drew, and I also.
Speaker 1: Go on an older version. This is what I did.
Speaker 1: I picked up an old iPad that was on like
Speaker 1: iOS fifteen or sixteen or something, and I couldn't believe
Speaker 1: how easy the.
Speaker 2: Photos that was to navigate. I was just like, Wow,
Speaker 2: everything is just in one place. It's still simple. Still.
Speaker 3: I hope, I hope is on You don't see what
Speaker 3: has seventeen or something. I'll look into that. I don't
Speaker 3: think it's on eighteen iPad mini, so I'll see.
Speaker 2: I don't know what is your Also, I like settings.
Speaker 3: I like what the third party apps have done in
Speaker 3: conjunction to have that symmetry with the design language of
Speaker 3: iOS twenty six, so I haven't I don't use Twitter,
Speaker 3: so I don't know.
Speaker 2: But Instagram does nothing.
Speaker 5: Instagram looks refreshed and cleaned and just more minimized.
Speaker 3: I'd say the the the banking apps that I use
Speaker 3: took full advantage of like having uh new series shortcuts.
Speaker 3: Evidently I didn't even know that was like a thing.
Speaker 3: So I've been looking into that. Uh and I think,
Speaker 3: and it's risky banking with my city shortcut.
Speaker 2: Just trying to think of what I would use a
Speaker 2: shortcut for in a banking app.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the banking app for me, I get a soft
Speaker 3: pull on my credit through Navy FED and I can
Speaker 3: I can be notified, for example, my mortgage for this property.
Speaker 3: The loan got transferred to a different lender, so an
Speaker 3: account recently closed today, and then my credit score shot.
Speaker 3: It's funny, the moment I stopped caring about a credit
Speaker 3: score is when it got really good. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 3: that's a key.
Speaker 5: Yeah, uh that's that's that's uh sus right there.
Speaker 4: But uh negative the bank credit?
Speaker 5: No, oh, get them get them out.
Speaker 1: Having a wonderful time right now, it's not loading anything.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's the thing. Listen for me. All my bugs
Speaker 3: I've experienced all year with the iOS eighteen are all rectified,
Speaker 3: specifically the autocorrect UH issue. I would be typing and
Speaker 3: they would just fill out a word, and there was
Speaker 3: so much typos for the last year. People actually thought
Speaker 3: I I have been taking the tism pill Thailand. All
Speaker 3: people thought I was because I my text looked terrible.
Speaker 3: And now it doesn't have this auto fill thing that's
Speaker 3: happening in Iowa twenty six And I haven't changed Jack.
Speaker 5: It just did it by itself and fixed it.
Speaker 3: All bugs and crashing, just weird bugouts that I would
Speaker 3: get from even just loading like Pitcher and Pittron on YouTube.
Speaker 3: On iOS eighteen crashed all the time, not on iOS
Speaker 3: twenty six. All my crashes that I experienced basically daily
Speaker 3: fixed and that if there was nothing else but under
Speaker 3: the hood things, I would say iOS twenty six was
Speaker 3: worth it, and it was worth it for me. And
Speaker 3: what the weird thing is other people have had inverted responses.
Speaker 3: They loved iOS eighteen because of house move it was,
Speaker 3: and they hate how buggy iOS twenty six is. And
Speaker 3: that just blows my mind that we that we just
Speaker 3: live on the same earth where that's happening, and probably
Speaker 3: right no there some of them are saying that they're
Speaker 3: running at the time iOS or not sorry, iphoned sixteen
Speaker 3: pro like they have the latest and greatest anything from
Speaker 3: A fifteen to forward. If it has a USB sport,
Speaker 3: if it has a USBC port in it, it should
Speaker 3: give you no issues. But I don't think it has
Speaker 3: anything to do with RAM. I don't think it's because
Speaker 3: I got twelve gigs. RAM that now is like oh
Speaker 3: animations more fluid, or whether the case may be, I
Speaker 3: won't know because I don't have a phone that has
Speaker 3: eight gigs. But I'm pretty sure my iPad pro does.
Speaker 3: And I love iPad oles twenty six. I love mac
Speaker 3: Os twenty six to everything all this, this has been
Speaker 3: the cleanest, most stable software release for me, and I liked.
Speaker 3: I just like the refresh look for the sake of it.
Speaker 3: It could be completely superficial in all aesthetic space, and
Speaker 3: it will make so many people happy for the sake
Speaker 3: of Like there, shut up, don't look at don't look
Speaker 3: at Apple Intelligence. Here's all this clean stuff the future.
Speaker 1: You piss off a bunch of other people who didn't
Speaker 1: want it to change and just wanted their phone to
Speaker 1: work well, the phone so.
Speaker 3: Called bloomers, and they'll be dead soon.
Speaker 1: Literally, people I work with complaining to me will be
Speaker 1: dead soon exactly.
Speaker 3: But the thing is change, Change is inevitable. That's the
Speaker 3: point I've been trying to like just make in at
Speaker 3: least in my sphere of tech stuff that like you
Speaker 3: will have to upgrade eventually. You can kick and scream.
Speaker 3: Change is inevitable. And if that means there's certain things
Speaker 3: that you have to relearn some stuff, that's the price
Speaker 3: you pay for getting free software updates.
Speaker 5: We take some time to learn some stuff and you'll
Speaker 5: be okay.
Speaker 1: Relearning is not that bad. But choosing a design language
Speaker 1: that actively slows down the older hardware, that's where it's
Speaker 1: not like you got to relearn some things. That's more
Speaker 1: like we decided it should look like this, and because
Speaker 1: we decided that now you need to upgrade sooner than
Speaker 1: you would have otherwise.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I can't. I can't. I don't have
Speaker 3: my own experience with that because my oldest device is
Speaker 3: the MacBook Pro and that runs smooth. So I can't
Speaker 3: say nothing with that.
Speaker 2: You're like, that's a you problem with that.
Speaker 3: I am aware. In your settings, you can turn off
Speaker 3: a lot of these animations. You can even turn off
Speaker 3: the glass and make it more frosted, and you can
Speaker 3: have a more stable use case if things are lagging,
Speaker 3: because I don't know how an iPhone eleven is performing
Speaker 3: in these use cases, like I would suspect terrible. But
Speaker 3: people who are on iPhone eleven or twelve, in my mind,
Speaker 3: those people don't upgrade software or hardware like they just
Speaker 3: stay with what they know.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people who did and now
Speaker 1: regret it and wish they could go back. But I
Speaker 1: just feel like if it could perform and get way
Speaker 1: better battery life with those settings turned off or down,
Speaker 1: it should do that by default to just in that update,
Speaker 1: because not everybody's in their grandma is going to know
Speaker 1: how to go into accessibility and look at the frosted
Speaker 1: settings slider and make liquid glass ice or whatever like
Speaker 1: we'd well, I'll.
Speaker 4: Just do the same thing that video games to these days.
Speaker 4: Do you want to optimize for performance or for stability?
Speaker 4: There you go, and then that's at the beginning of
Speaker 4: the game, right is you choose either you want very
Speaker 4: pretty but might peach or yeah, very pretty but might
Speaker 4: be choppy or looks meah but not choppy at.
Speaker 3: All, and that's or train when you get a new
Speaker 3: device it happened on all my devices, or when you
Speaker 3: update to iOS to my six for the first time,
Speaker 3: there is a tutorial screen where they let you start
Speaker 3: tinkering with some stuff, and I hear you, Mike, maybe
Speaker 3: they should be more in depth about more tinkering things.
Speaker 5: But I am aware that you.
Speaker 3: Can set some stuff from the offset when you get
Speaker 3: a new device or you upgrade to iOS twenty six,
Speaker 3: because I had to go through that three different times.
Speaker 5: On mac, iPad and iPhone, so I maybe that's maybe
Speaker 5: that's it. Maybe there needs to be a way.
Speaker 3: I hate the fact that they throw out the tips notification.
Speaker 3: I mean, get that out of my get that trash
Speaker 3: away from me.
Speaker 2: But I didn't have that happened to me.
Speaker 4: But that's probably because I switched to de SIM and
Speaker 4: I didn't switch anything else besides number, which is very fun.
Speaker 4: By the way, thanks Verizon for making it a headache.
Speaker 4: But otherwise, yeah, them, Frontier and every other company that
Speaker 4: they own awful, awful, But no otherwise I'm kind of
Speaker 4: in the middle there, Randy, where my experience has been
Speaker 4: stable except three or four times I could count. I
Speaker 4: guess my hands where it's bugged out, either on the
Speaker 4: lock screen or I.
Speaker 2: Tried opening that and then it just didn't.
Speaker 4: But it's not so much to where it's like, this
Speaker 4: is a very unstable software package, but at the same
Speaker 4: time it hasn't been immutable for Mike.
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you update your iPad?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: Do you want me to now, Army, that's take too long.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna it's gonna take like forty minutes. You'll watch it.
Speaker 3: I I'm not saying too I don't. I don't really
Speaker 3: care what you do. I'm just curious if you had
Speaker 3: because that's that's the twenty twenty one iPad Mini, right.
Speaker 4: I'm graded to eighteen seven to one. Oh, he's on seventeen,
Speaker 4: eighteen six whatever.
Speaker 3: I need to see the photos app offline to see
Speaker 3: what Drew's talking about if it's actually you know, because
Speaker 3: I part of my brain tells me Drew Drew is
Speaker 3: living in the past with nostalgia and he thinks everything
Speaker 3: looks great.
Speaker 1: And uh, I don't like eighteen to be clear, but
Speaker 1: I just I can't go seventeen.
Speaker 5: Back when I was a YouTuber, things worse, things worse, decent.
Speaker 2: Back when No, it's just I'm afraid.
Speaker 1: I've heard too many scary stories about sixteen pros that
Speaker 1: perform horribly after the updates, And I'm like, wo.
Speaker 5: So do you also you suspect it's the device. You
Speaker 5: don't think it's the software. Is the device then?
Speaker 2: No, I think management or something like. Okay, it's the
Speaker 2: software that's optimized to run on this hardware, but not
Speaker 2: this hardware. So it makes this.
Speaker 1: Hardware run hot and laggy to make me want to
Speaker 1: get this.
Speaker 2: That's what it feels like to me.
Speaker 3: If it got addressed in a point one or point
Speaker 3: oh one or whatever, then you're like, Okay, that's fine.
Speaker 2: I will update when I have to when they make me.
Speaker 3: What does that? Okay?
Speaker 11: So so so you don't like the aesthetic of iOS
Speaker 11: twenty six, No, it felt too I don't know, as
Speaker 11: usual says everything best because she comes in from this
Speaker 11: like non nerdy perspective and she just looks at something
Speaker 11: in the first glance.
Speaker 1: And the first thing she said when I showed her
Speaker 1: iOS twenty six was it feels like a kid version.
Speaker 1: Feels like everything's just like more playful and shiny, like
Speaker 1: a kid's toy.
Speaker 2: It's like, ooh, look at the lights.
Speaker 1: Look at the refraction, and ever since she said that,
Speaker 1: I haven't been able to unsee it. It just feels
Speaker 1: like the GPU and everything's working overtime and the renderings
Speaker 1: are kind of over the top and is a shame
Speaker 1: because I did really enjoy the hardware on the seventeen
Speaker 1: Pro Max. I was like, this is it never got hot,
Speaker 1: the battery life was good, the display was bright, the
Speaker 1: cameras were great. It was just like all this pro
Speaker 1: hardware that I've always wanted, and yet it felt so
Speaker 1: kind of childish and playful. When it came to software
Speaker 1: that I was just like finding I had to tap
Speaker 1: more things, whether it be Safari with all tabs, which
Speaker 1: I know is a setting, but still it's like, why
Speaker 1: why does that need to be a set? Why can't
Speaker 1: there be a button I pressed to get to all tabs,
Speaker 1: or why do I have to like look for hidden
Speaker 1: menu options?
Speaker 2: And camera?
Speaker 1: I've found that very annoying when I hand my phone
Speaker 1: to someone else and they were like, wait, how do
Speaker 1: I get to panorama or how do I get to portrait?
Speaker 1: Because all they say is video and photo? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: kind of to be a little bit awkward. So there's
Speaker 1: all these like settings that they decided to hide, which
Speaker 1: you can get used to it. There are so now
Speaker 1: you're swiping around and you ended up on spatial mode
Speaker 1: instead of just.
Speaker 4: Set on spacial mode yet so it's gonna be.
Speaker 2: And then look at that.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is a prime example. Look at how shiny
Speaker 1: and refractive the menu options are at the bottom. But
Speaker 1: then this video icon is not shiny or reflective. Then
Speaker 1: it's old fashioned two D flat And I can find
Speaker 1: like a million examples like that whenever I use iOS
Speaker 1: twenty six where I'm just like, okay, so this is
Speaker 1: old fashioned two D, but then this one is liquid
Speaker 1: glass and it just keeps bouncing all over the place,
Speaker 1: and that inconsistency always drove me nuts.
Speaker 2: I was just like, so you're shiny, but you're not shiny.
Speaker 1: It's like, how do I know what to expect to
Speaker 1: be liquid and what's not to be liquid?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just found the design more consistent,
Speaker 2: and as far as a design language on this, I think,
Speaker 2: so what I'm go ahead?
Speaker 4: I would disagree only because the thing that is liquid
Speaker 4: glass on that selection is it showing you what you're
Speaker 4: on where the list isn't shiny at all on whether
Speaker 4: you're going to cinematic or time lapse or whatever. Nothing's
Speaker 4: shiny until the selector.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's your frame rate and your resolution. That's flat. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's all flat. Everything's flat.
Speaker 4: The only thing that's not flat is it showing you
Speaker 4: you are on video specifically you're on well, I'm on
Speaker 4: a different app.
Speaker 3: Is iOS has gotten so good. The only thing you
Speaker 3: can hate on is nitpicking design, aesthetics of this part's
Speaker 3: flat and this part is not. Not the functionality of
Speaker 3: the tool itself.
Speaker 5: What a great problem at the top.
Speaker 2: Glassy.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, sometimes certain things are glassy, and sometimes
Speaker 1: that is well, I just pick one because they can't
Speaker 1: pick one because it's it's designed.
Speaker 2: Don't get me.
Speaker 3: One punch mic.
Speaker 2: You can physically do it now.
Speaker 1: I just I don't. I just don't see the point.
Speaker 1: I guess it doesn't feel like it feels like it's
Speaker 1: a definite way to ramp up the GPU for no
Speaker 1: functional game.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it really does ramp up because
Speaker 3: these things are so minute on a screen.
Speaker 2: So when you have a vapor chamber, it doesn't.
Speaker 3: That's not what the VA gaming. It's for gaming, or
Speaker 3: when you're outside and you get the three thousand nits
Speaker 3: of brightness or extensive uses on any application that requires
Speaker 3: that GPU to ramp up. The vapor chamber kicks and
Speaker 3: then I've never felt this phone get hot, which tells
Speaker 3: me I'm not doing a good job pushing.
Speaker 1: It because it's the kind of vapor and it's aluminum.
Speaker 1: It's not in a glass steel chassis like something.
Speaker 3: So you're saying you would take this phone with iOS eighteen.
Speaker 1: Yes, if there's a way to, or seventeen would be better,
Speaker 1: but anyway, that's that's my random, crazy tangent.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is your age showing that you're acting.
Speaker 3: You're acting like I don't want.
Speaker 2: To getting worse.
Speaker 1: And Drew likes older versions of iOS. Now it's getting bad.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm wearing thirty. That's just around the corner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think do you think? Oh well, then
Speaker 3: let me let me wrap up this iOS twenty six period. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I'm gonna wrap it up here.
Speaker 2: My final question for.
Speaker 3: You both of you. But you're the one.
Speaker 2: Yes, the sixteen is a good fund.
Speaker 3: It is, thank you, Mike. Does that mean you're not
Speaker 3: it's a two parter? Did you upgrade your Mac and
Speaker 3: if not, does this mean you're not interested in any
Speaker 3: new hardware because it's going.
Speaker 5: To have the latest OS?
Speaker 3: Is that really where you're adding your headspace at this point?
Speaker 2: For now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I loved the new AirPods didn't have liquid glass on them,
Speaker 1: and I'm waiting for the O lead redesigned MacBook Pro
Speaker 1: before I consider a new Mac.
Speaker 2: Because I spent a lot of money on this.
Speaker 4: Don't you have at least two more years.
Speaker 2: With this Mac?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Legally? Won? Was?
Speaker 1: I signed a contract this has to last me five years.
Speaker 3: And had to go through his chain of command? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Exactly how much storage do you have left on it?
Speaker 2: I filled it up? Not long? Really a bunch of stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I hit eight terabytes like six months ago or something. Wow.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of stuff I could delete. I
Speaker 1: just didn't because I.
Speaker 3: Was a problem. You have a hoarding digital horder problem?
Speaker 2: Well, last guy wes on here are not mine either.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: The last guy we cured of his digital hoarding.
Speaker 3: We cured him so hard he left the tech space altogether,
Speaker 3: and I think we're gonna have to do the same
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll see.
Speaker 1: Okay, I may come around to it if I get
Speaker 1: inspired one day, but as of now, I don't. Apple
Speaker 1: intelligence is step one of this multi stage pro Ladies.
Speaker 3: And gentlemen, we've made progress because because of of that,
Speaker 3: there is hope that an Apple sheep is somewhere in there.
Speaker 3: But if you can't live with this fake sheep, I'm
Speaker 3: your new Apple sheep, Randy Nexus. See you later, So
Speaker 3: bye bye