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Speaker 2: Y whoa godam gotam gotam, Welcome in oh TV here
on this Wednesday morning.
Speaker 3: Jake Flynn a laundra a Tata and don't look now
it's back then mad and Tata's core is warm. Now
there are arms. I can't speak for those. I don't
know how those are going right now, don't know how
they feel. But let me tell you their core solid,
feeling good.
Speaker 4: It's all about core temperature control. You know this, Jake,
And you know what time it is. You know what
time of the season is. It's best season. It is
best season.
Speaker 2: Did you Taylor to text each other this morning? Just happened?
Or getting half to? I saw them walk in. I
was like, okay, we go. It's right.
Speaker 4: We're waking up with eighty eight to eighty nine percent
of Baton rouge men this morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all wearing vest Let's go.
Speaker 4: It's a good day. It's a good day to be
an American. What are you laughing at best season. Serious,
best season is the best season, that's what they say.
I just know you were so excited. It was so exciting.
It was because you don't blow out my pocket. Yeah,
love pockets. I don't have to put guess what, I
don't have to put my phone that's heavy. I don't
have to put it in my pant pocket anymore. Okay,
we're in my vest pocket. Where's your fanny pack that
you used to wear? I keep it in my backpack.
I throw it on and off. So I got this.
I got this new phone cover. It's not new anymore.
It was new about six months ago. It keeps my
ID and my credit card right there. So somebody steals
your phone, yeah, I'm done after that. But guess what,
they can't steal my phone because it's in my best pocket.
Speaker 2: Good luck?
Speaker 3: Is that from an Instagram ad that got you to
get that phone case?
Speaker 4: No, it's because I you know, I don't like putting
things like in my pant pockets. I don't like you know,
I don't like wallets, don't like keys in there. That's
why I started wearing a fanny pack. Actually, I started
wearing a fanny pack after Vest season. Because I got
rid of my pockets. Yeah, my convenient pockets that I
had right on my person, and so I got a
fanny pack and.
Speaker 2: Got me through.
Speaker 4: But now and a lot of it was just because
I wanted to carry my while wallet around not in
my pocket. But now I got this new iPhone cover.
All right, anyway, enough about me. How are you doing?
Speaker 2: Strong? And quite strong? Okay, like your portfolio.
Speaker 4: Uh hey, it's it's Wednesday today, that it is, Derek.
Guess what those were some really aggressive, really enthusiastic, really
positive vibe yeohs that we all gave today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, guess what. We flipped the flipped the corner. We
turned it.
Speaker 3: Well, we did, for sure. And look, my my sad
yos on Monday were for the play on.
Speaker 4: The field, not the coaching vacancy. No, I mean it's
play on the field was poor. It's quite poor, like yourfolio.
Speaker 3: Exactly exactly. And you know, then we started talking about tape.
We started watching tape together. It made me more angry,
more mad. But yeah, well, you know, an opportunity and
yesterday Frank Wilson, the inter head coach, you know, for
the first time I met with the media. We'll play
some of that a little bit later on, got me
feeling good, get me feeling rejuvenated. Frank is the man.
Love Frank and love that he cares. Oh, I love that.
It means a lot to him. I love that Louisiana
and LSU means a lot to him. So as a
former player, not that it matters at all, but that
means a lot to me, And I think that means
a lot to the fans.
Speaker 4: That's a perfect person to try to steady the ship
right now too, because you got a lot of turmoil.
You have recruits you have to talk to, you, you
have current players that you have to recruit. You have
to hold the line if you will hold the rope.
And he's the perfect person to do right now. And
what he said yesterday was great. It meant a lot too,
probably a lot of us that listen to it and
heard the words that he was saying and just the
way he was doing it and the attitude that he's
bringing to it. It is not a self serving attitude.
It is a LSU serving attitude. And that was great
to hear.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 4: Again, like I just said, like as a former player
watching that, it was like, Yep, this guy gets it
and he always has. That's why he has the respect
of current players, former players, coaching staffs. He's very well respected,
very well liked around that entire staff, around all the players,
and he's the perfect fit for the guy to come
in right now in this time of turmoil, in this
time where you have three losses, but you got a
lot of season left to play. It's easy for a
program to kind of take a step back when something
like this happens because of all the people that you
could potentially lose, all the recruits, you potentially lose the talent.
Speaker 2: The talent leaving.
Speaker 4: But he's the right guy at the right time to
take on this task. And it is a tall task.
It's a hard task. You gotta buy a week, you
gotta go to Alabama. It's uh, it's not easy. Doesn't
get easy from here, right, do you know what? Still
the same roster, yeah, that we had before the season. True,
Still the same roster that went into Clemson beat Florida here,
should have could have would on a couple of different games,
beat South Carolina, who just went toe to toe with Alabama.
Speaker 2: Yep, this year more than any year.
Speaker 3: You know, it's a little unexpected I really know how
it's gonna play out, yep. And I feel much more
confident that it's going to be a four quarter situation
and not just a first half situation.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: And I think I think Frank just kind of gets
it right. He gets it from all aspects. He gets
he gets in tips his cap and thinks he thinks
Brian Kelly.
Speaker 2: But he also knows that different things have to happen
and change.
Speaker 4: And I know he's reached out to a lot of
former players, yeah, including us, yep.
Speaker 2: And I can tell you we're excited. He's got our support.
There's no doubt about it. Yep.
Speaker 3: And again we'll play some of the sound that he
had from his opening press conference. And it's a great
point about it is the same roster. It is the
same Jimmies and Joe's that we were excited about before
the year, and now it's about getting the most out
of said Jimmy's and Joe's. And you've been in this
situation before, and we talked about it. I think it
was gosh, maybe on Monday, and maybe before Brian Kell
even got fired, Like when you went to Alabama and
coach I was coaching, but he had already been told
he was not going to be retained, and you know,
Deonte Jones put together a game plan that Alabama hadn't
seen before. It was like kind of like why the
hell not type situation, let's let's do something different. And
they were playing cover zero and like the entire game
and just bringing the house and they're like, why not,
let's just let's just do it right right, And like
that's the kind of situation that you find yourself in
whenever you have an interim head coach. It's like, look,
we are going to just do it our way. We're
gonna do things a little bit differently. Like maybe it's
a little unsound, but you know what, we're gonna do
it full tilt and we're gonna do some things that
are a little bit different here.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: I like, I like not to preview the game. That's
not for a while, but I hope that's the mentality
like for that game. Certainly, offensively, my God takes some chances.
Speaker 2: I was the most high school hairy.
Speaker 3: Play scheme last week against A and M that I'd
ever seen before.
Speaker 4: It was as an offensive two former offensive people and
fan base who likes to see good offense, and just
you know, in football, that's the great defense is awesome.
Great defense is beautiful. Great defense is tough and nasty
and mean and gritty, and you love as a fan
base to have a good defense. But let's all be honest.
The offense is the fun part. Like if you're good
on offense, Like how fun was it two years ago?
And Jaden was great? But the defense was still terrible
but it was still really fun. Yeah, really fun to
watch that team and be a part of it. So yeah, this,
this offense this year has not made watching LSU football fun.
Speaker 2: It has not made any game fun. The defense had.
Speaker 4: Some sparks where it was like, yeah, we got something
to hang our hat on, certainly, and I can't blame
it on the player. Sure, there's been issues on the line.
You know, Garrett hadn't played up to his standard, But
I mean, goodness, gracious, I don't know if they've really
been given a.
Speaker 2: Chance up to this point.
Speaker 4: So yeah, why not taking uh, take a little bit
of a risk and change some things up and do
some things different. Nothing got nothing to lose at this point, right,
And I guess you do have something to lose. I'll
take that back. Well, not a great statement. What do
you mean you can't go out there and look bad. No,
but but you can't get much worse.
Speaker 3: But you're right about like having nothing to lose, Like
right now your main goals probably out of reach.
Speaker 2: I mean a million things would have to happen. But
so I was talking about fake punt.
Speaker 4: We're gonna get a fake punt? What do you think
we're gonna get some sort of trickery.
Speaker 3: I hope, like I hope it's all up, Like I
hope every bit of it is.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: But I was talking with Jimbo yesterday. My first thing
he asked, and he's like, hey, you know you can
use all fifty three yards, right.
Speaker 2: Like I was like, yeah, I do. I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know if everybody knew that, but and that's
how wide a football field is. In case anybody's wondering, what, Yeah,
you can use all fifty three Yeah you can.
Speaker 4: The problem is I would I would, I would rebut
Jimbo on that and say the problem is is we're
using the the first one in the fifty third one
a little bit too much.
Speaker 2: We're using the sideline yards a little too much. Let's
stick it. Let's stick with it, like the enter twenty.
And there's so many plays that we could show you
on here that.
Speaker 3: Don't even have an option in that portion of the
field that we're talking about between the hashes. And again,
and y'all know this, but the hashes are so wide
in college football it's it's.
Speaker 2: Hard hard to avoid. It's hard to avoid the middle
of the field.
Speaker 4: I yeah, that was a shocking thing. We've been looking
at the passing r the last two weeks, so losses
against Vanderbilt, and of course it's about pass loss against
A and M. There is one pass in each game
that was completed over the middle of the field. So
in between the hashes, like clearly in between the hashes
that went five yards in the air pass the line
of scrimmage, So a lot of there's a lot of checkdowns,
and there's been two passes total, one in each game.
And that is like it's very hard to do in
a drop back passing offense. So that tells you that
your schemes are are too outwardly focused. So all of
your passing games are towards the sideline. So all your
first second reads. I'm dropping back into three boy one
and my first reads my number one outside. My second
reads is an alert to the second receiver. Then my
you know, my third read is a stick route to
the to the number three receiver or the tied end,
and there's nothing attack in the middle of the field.
And it was just shocking how many times will drop
back and see that, and then a lot of other
a lot of our other downfield passes are you know,
basically scripted, drawn up plays, trickery where wide receivers are blocking,
or it's a screen pass or an RPO or something
like that where there's no option to attack the middle
of the field. I've just never seen a dropback offense
and a capable with capable personnel that doesn't run normal
dropbacks with shallow crosses and dig routes and multiple people
attacking different windows of the middle of the field. Like
you go to any high school and watch a seven
on seven tournament. They're throwing seams, they're throwing digs, they're
throwing daggers, they're throwing knives, they're throwing.
Speaker 2: All sorts of things over the middle.
Speaker 4: It's not just I'm gonna sit here and throw a
fifty fifty ball down the sideline. I'm gonna throw what
turns into a fifty to fifty comeback to the wide
side of the field. Certainly a fifty to fifty hitch
route to the wide side of the field. How many
times we do that? Only we completed some last week,
thank god. Easily could have been six the other way. Yeah,
you're throwing. You're throwing a hitch to the white side
the field with a corner that's sitting on his heels. Anyway,
can't get upset with a vest on this morning.
Speaker 3: Let's see from PF Tiger seven, did you know what
we're is not responsible for Jimbo's buy out at A
and M. The new athletic director gave him a huge extension.
That's what did it. It was kind of built on
it a little bit. But it's funny you mentioned that.
Jimbo said that to me yesterday, literally like so, y'all
know he's my co host on Tuesdays on Series x M,
and he's like, hey, why they keep tagging my buyout
was with Scott.
Speaker 2: It's like Ross signed that one.
Speaker 3: I was like, well, yeah, I guess you know he did,
but I guess you know it's built off of I
guess the original contract. He's like yeah, yeah, no, no,
but the by like Ross signed that one, Russ Rourke's
now the ad at Ohio State.
Speaker 2: Hmm yeah.
Speaker 4: I think like that was that was kind of like
the easy target, right, He's easy target saying well, you
know Scott did Jimbo's, he did Brian's, So I mean
that's the question too. So with with this in this
kind of vacancy, that's this boy that's being left and
you know Frank's filling that right now, and uh, you know,
once the coach and search keeps going on and on,
that's kind of the thing who's going to be making
the decision. And I think that was an easy target
of saying well, Scott's made two bad ones with that
buyout deals, which you know, if you want to if
you want to try to get the best, I mean,
you do have to pay off in the world.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I do think eventually like that all of that
will will calm down and you won't see ten year
contracts anymore.
Speaker 2: At least you would think so.
Speaker 3: And I know it's so hard after it's already been
done for so long, but you just have somebody likes
the group.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not going to not going to do it.
Speaker 4: But like you look at the model of professional football
obviously the NFL, you looked at the CBA, the collective
bargaining agreement doesn't have anything to do with the coaches
salaries and how that is all structured, I don't think
at least. So why like, if at one point in
the in college football, if a collective bargaining agreement was
ever made for college football, which it probably would have
to be at some point, I don't think it would
include coaches salaries. I don't think coach is be part
of that bargaining agreement, right, it would be separate. Yeah,
so something something would happen. So it have to be
a collective of universities just saying, you know, you have
to get your Georgia's and your Ohio States and your
Organs and your l Sues and Texas schools and Florida
schools all together and be like we're handshake deal.
Speaker 2: We're not doing that anymore. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look, look, Jimmy, we love you. You got this done.
Tip of the cap to you. But and I know, look,
I know you got all the head coaches. I know that,
but I think we all agree this is not good
for the game. Yeah, Now if that gets done, who knows,
because Jimmy is gonna be like, why would I do that?
I've got everybody or my Jimmy sexon of course, I've
got everybody.
Speaker 2: Why would I do that? So it's gotta it's gotta boof,
it's gotta slow.
Speaker 3: Down's got to stop these twa your contracts were wild
with these buyouts. So all right, we'll step away, We'll
take our first break of the show. We have so
much to get to today just now telling you all
this because I forgot last night. Chris low is going
to join us from on three at eight thirty, and
he's kind of, you know, obviously tied into a lot
of the coaching carousel and it was in Tiger Stadium
Saturday against Texas A and M. And he also could
feel what a lot of us felt that there was
going to be changes that were going to be made
after that. So we'll catch up with ce load to
kind of see what the latest is around the open
head coaching vacancy here for LSU football. We got Devin
Snow at some point today since on Monday we got
a little busy. Doctor Athridge is gonna come in as well,
so We've got a ton to get to stay locked
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Speaker 3: Welcome back in O t B There live from the
Raising Kane Studio. Do we have the video ready to go? Wilson,
LSU's interim head coach yesterday.
Speaker 2: When he met with the media.
Speaker 7: Spond the next time you have a game to play,
which obviously is a big game in a couple of weeks.
I think they'll respond, Well, I'll share something we did today.
I was watching quite some time ago when we got
bombed in at Pearl Harbor and the sirens went off
and that sound effect, and it was an alert, It
was a all call. It was a rally call for
us to come together. We emulated that today for our
football team, and as those sirens went off for the
rally call, our team merged together at the fifty yard line.
We held up all four of our fingers in both hands.
We chanted ford quarter, we chanted finish because we're all in.
We're all in to finish what we've started. And some
of that celebration, some of that noise, if you will,
was simply our football team answering to the rally call,
being there for one another in a tough situation when,
if you will use an analogy, we've been invaded.
Speaker 4: Frank's a little different than you know, what was there before.
It was a little different, different tone to that press conference.
I think I said, I think that used this term
last segment. It's not about Frank when he talks, it's
not about his self, right, Everything he does, everything he
does is towards a greater good. Everything he does is
for that team. And you have to have like at
this moment, you have to have something like that exactly
like what he just said, you got to get everybody together,
because everybody in that building. There's a lot of really,
really amazing great people in that building. And I'm not
talking just about the players. I'm talking about all Let's
talk about the people that work there first. There's a
lot of great people in that building and they've been
there a long time. Some haven't been there longer than others,
of course, who don't really know like what's next for them.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: You look at everything from of course coaches to coordinators
to position coaches, but everybody to equipment staff, training staff,
medical staff, dietitians, nutritionists, chefs, everybody in that building a chef.
There is an uncertainty there when a head coach, when
the when the the big domino falls, like it's how
many other dominoes are going to fall. So most people
are and that's part of the job. I'm not saying like,
you know, feel sorry or anything like that. That's part
of the job. That's what you sign up for, you
when you're a coach, and when you work with a
football team, that's what you sign up for. So no
one's asking that, but there's still uncertainty that come. There's
family there's people, there's humans involved with it, and there's
a lot of people in that building that don't know
where their kids are going to be going to school
in January. Right, Yeah, so's it's a real thing. And
then with the players, of course, there's uncertain uncertainty there.
They still have to go out and perform. They still
have to go out and play a collision sport against
really good football team, against plenty of really good football teams. Yep,
they start to put tape on. They have goals, they
have aspirations to go to the next level. They have
goals and aspirations to maybe continue their career elsewhere.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Whatever the motivation is, but in a situation like this,
when things like this happen, when it's all negative, negative, negative,
you're hearing negative from the outside, you're hearing negative from
every direction, you really have to focus on the people
around you, the guy to your left, the guy to
your right, the support staff that.
Speaker 2: Surrounds that team as well. And you got two choices
to make.
Speaker 4: You either feel sorry for yourself you decide to kind
of quit, give up, don't give the effort because it's
easy to do. That's human nature, that would be the
normal thing to do. Yeah, the hard thing to do
is to rally together. The hard thing to do, the
unnatural thing to do. It would be to come together
as a team in the face of all this adversity,
rally behind each other, get each other's back, hold the
rope for each other, and choose to fight and fight
with everything you have. And that's exactly Frank Wilson's a
perfect person right now to get that done. And I'm
proud of him. I'm proud of everybody around there, and
I know that they're going to fight. I think they're
going to choose that option, even though that's the hard
one to do. It's not human nature to take the
hard route, but I think that's what they're gonna do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it can go one of two ways, Like
it doesn't always go up, it doesn't always go down.
Like you've got to find what Matt's talking about like
inside of you and decide collectively as a team which
way you're going to go. All right, Like Penn State
right now, you know they lose three games when the
real they fire their coach, they lose their next game out,
but you know they gave some good effort. But they
lose against Iowa UCLA, they fire their coach, they turned
into a completely different squad. Like I know, they just
got beat by Indiana by fifty, but I mean, look,
they want some games they shouldn't have won. They're getting
dominated by New Mexico, and then they beat Penn State,
they beat Maryland. Right, They've got much better product out
there than they had before. And look, we can go
down the list of how that's gone for some and
how it's gone for others. So I fully expected to go.
I expect there to be a different energy. I expect
there to be a different execution, certainly on the offensive
side of the football. But before we take a break,
because when Frank was talking right there, it reminded me
of a video and it was a tough time for
LSU football. In fact, the last time that we were
kind of in a situation like this, and you know,
it wasn't great and you were in Houston, Texas getting
ready for a ball game and you were playing against
Kansas State. He wasn't gonna fel sorry for you. They shouldn't,
but we all know the situation, right. You had limited numbers,
to say the least, and you were trying to hold
on to Gary nes Meyer's red shirt, which makes sense.
Right in the bowl game, and you had John Drey,
Kirkland Chew Breese out there playing quarterbow. And I'll never
forget his postgame press conference because it embodied everything that
you should be when you're a player, a coach, anybody
involved in the LSU football program, because it's the mentality
that is the state of Louisiana. It's the mentality that
everybody that I played with, that Matt played with, whoever
like during that time had.
Speaker 2: For the LSU football program.
Speaker 3: And this was the quote that John Trey had after
even losing that game against Kansas State.
Speaker 2: Shoot, we fighting tigers, man.
Speaker 7: We ain't about to back down from nobody, no matter
if we don't have if we did, if we.
Speaker 5: Got eleven, we go and play.
Speaker 2: That's our mindset.
Speaker 7: If we got eleven, we go and play.
Speaker 2: And they barely had eleven, but they went and played,
and they fought and they lost. They fought to the
last player of the game.
Speaker 3: John Trey threw a touchdown pass and the last player
of the game, and all it did was cut the
lead to like what twenty one something like that.
Speaker 2: But they celebrated it. They didn't quit.
Speaker 3: They kept fighting until the clock kid triple zero, Yep,
until the very last second.
Speaker 4: I got a smile on my face right out, because
like if you're if you're watching on on YouTube, watching
the stream, like just seeing his face, say that makes
you smile. Man, what a good attitude. And I think
that's what the attitude that that LSU's gonna bring. He
guess what, they got more than eleven and they got
more than eleven really good ones.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: So you're lying to yourself if you think that there's
no chance they got an opportunity. There's crazier things have happened.
I know it hadn't been what we wanted up to
this point, but look, why not why not go the
rest of the season undefeated? Why not beat Alabama in Alabama?
Tell me, tell me a reason why we can't. I
know they're good. I know we haven't been good, especially
on offense. Well it's a new offensive coach. Yeah, the
guy called the plays is not there, got called the
shots in there. Yeah, so we'll see, we will see.
It is up to them, but we're gonna be cheering
our tails off. It's before eight, So I said tail
but done.
Speaker 3: They I said, hell earlier, I'm definitely gonna get in
trouble by Memphis.
Speaker 2: Sorry about that, Bud.
Speaker 3: All right, we'll take a break more OTV when we
come back live from the Raise of Kine Studio.
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Speaker 3: All right, So a lot of the talk over the
next couple of weeks is going to be about who
the next head coach is for the LSU Tigers.
Speaker 2: Now, what's that timeline look like?
Speaker 3: We don't know If it's a current coach, chances are
is probably still fighting for a playoff spot. And is
that coach going to be interested in having those conversations
during his team's run his current team's run. When are
you going to be able to name said head coach
if it's a coach in a college football playoff? Right,
and you've got to transfer a portal window.
Speaker 2: But it provides an issue that's a big issue.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's the problem with your people that are champion
for Lank Kiffin and Dan Lenny, who I think both
of them would be great options.
Speaker 2: I do, But there is the procedure of that.
Speaker 4: Isn't clear, Like you have to wait a long time,
and I don't think Lane Kiffin has been known to
leave someone at the altar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So you could wait all that time and
all of a sudden he decides.
Speaker 4: At the last minute he's pretty comp which he should
be comfortable where he's at. Yeah, I mean, I can't
put myself in that man choose Why would you leave?
You got all the negotiating.
Speaker 2: Power right now to stay there.
Speaker 4: So you know, it's one of those situations where it's
a it's a dangerous road to take that risk unless
you got some deep assurances, which I'm sure the people
that will be making that decision.
Speaker 3: Will know then have. Even then, yeah, you still don't know.
Still not in absolute still not a guarantee. So like
that's that's another part of it. It's another layer to
what we're talking about. You go after one of these
playoff coaches, which I get because that's where you want
to go. The timing of it's tough. I mean, signing day,
high school signing day is going to pass you up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, so if you're wanting one of those guys,
you better hope they lose three games here pretty soon.
If you all want them, cheer against them right now.
Then you'd be like, well, he's a terrible coach, lost
three games.
Speaker 2: I'm like, and I feel like you want to say
something here.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure where. I'm not sure what you do.
I'm not sure where you go. I'm not sure you
know all of that? How much of that goes into it?
Like you're just gonna have to take a hit maybe
in a portal window.
Speaker 2: It depends on one.
Speaker 6: You know, if they want the coach before early signing
day December third, So if you want to coach, you
got three weeks to name one pretty much if you
want it before early signing period.
Speaker 4: If not, is that like a guy? That's of course.
I don't follow recruiting. I think recruiting, you know, chasing
and following and knowing what high school kids and fifteen
sixteen seventy year olds are doing with their life is
like a strange thing. But I haven't done radio before
during recruiting times, so I gotta follow it. Is that
is December third a normal?
Speaker 2: Like? Yeah?
Speaker 4: For whatever reason, if you got into my head, if
you made me like guess, I would have said, it's
like just before Christmas.
Speaker 2: Now they started doing it like December third, like early December.
Speaker 6: So it's the third to the it's Wednesday till Friday.
Speaker 2: It's high school.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, if you don't sign, then you wait till
the original like February, sound of day. But honestly, Matt,
eighty percent of your class now signs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: And then the new transfer portal window, if I'm not mistaken,
is fifteen days after New Year's right, January second through
the sixteenth. That's the new only time portal window. So
it's a little bit later than the December one.
Speaker 4: The third one feels really early for me, for especially
for teams that are having to hire a new coach. Yes,
I mean I would say that coaches aren't usually hired
by that point.
Speaker 2: I guess on the heels of right, on the heels
of the season being over.
Speaker 4: Usually coaches, like organizations and teams that have to hire
somebody else, is not hired by December third, right.
Speaker 6: And and that's the thing, like does LSU love one
candidate enough that's in the playoff that you are going
to wait or do they not?
Speaker 2: There's there they aren't not publicly, but like privately, there's
got to be a company.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some contracts got to be basically signed. Look,
there's some positions that need to know. They gotta know
there's something that I don't think it matters as much,
but there's some positions that need to know, like who
their coach is going to be. Now, they always tell
you recruiting, don't commit or sign with a coach, sign
with the school, and that makes sense for most people.
But you know, if you're playing a certain position, if
you're if you're a Haines King style quarterback and the
guy that comes in as an air raid guy, that
doesn't make sense for the Texas Hainsaw massacre.
Speaker 2: I love that guy. I love that I love that
big Yeah. So if you if you decide to wait
and you decide to go after a big.
Speaker 4: Fish that's going to go to the playoffs, like you
have to do something for recruits, say you know, and
we know not everybody on that staff is going to
be there right now. I'm running that bill going to
be there. And we hope that there's some defensive code.
We hope that there's some people that are retained because
we like them and we think they're good coaches. But
that's the prerogative of the new head coach. But with
Frank Wilson, becoming the interim right now and what he
means and he's going to.
Speaker 2: Be, don't get it twisted. Like.
Speaker 4: He's been a great recruiter for a long time. He's
been the reason that a lot of men and a
lot of young men have decided to wear.
Speaker 2: Purple and gold like. He's been a really big catalyst
in that. And he's going to be.
Speaker 4: The biggest reason why people decide to stick here with
LSU right to stay here and stay here and play,
and or to sign here from other colleges sign here
out of high school.
Speaker 2: He's going to be the big reason.
Speaker 4: So if you decide to wait, you better have a
from the top, the people, the decision makers that are
going to be making this decision, you better say, well,
you can count fight. Frank's the reason why we're still recruiting.
We don't have a head coach yet, we don't know
what the few is going to be. But Frank's not
going anywhere. Yeah, Frank's going to be here in some
form or fashion. So like this guy that is convincing
you to stay, convincing you to go, he's not going anywhere.
Speaker 2: No matter who the head coach is. We're making sure
that he keeps.
Speaker 4: Him so because, like we were talking about in the
past two segments, he's a perfect guy right now to
get it to set the standard again, to set that Louisiana,
that culture, that LSU the three letters on your chest,
on your helmet, and that is going to be the
reason why we can hopefully hold the rope right here.
Stay afloat with these recruits, stay afloat with the current players,
make sure there's not that mass exodus, and he's going
to be the reason why.
Speaker 3: Real quick, before we take a break, mister Big is
pointing out that Brian Kelly got hired on November the thirtieth,
and when Coacho got hired it was late November as well.
But I will say the difference is that was a
four team playoff. This is a twelve team playoff. More
teams are going to be in the twelve team playoff.
Hunt then they were going to be in the four
team playoff and the fourteen playoff. You kind of knew
although Notre Dame still had an outside shot, it was
going to take a couple of things. And so that's
why you see a November signing like where some of
the other candidates that you were talking to whoever the
link iffn Clark, Lee, Dan Lanning, Jeff bro whoever brinky.
Speaker 2: They could be in the twelve team playoff and.
Speaker 4: We would think that LSU is gonna go big game
hunting here right, Like it's maybe they're picking a coach
that their season.
Speaker 3: Just like, don't hear that anythink name no by actual
like what they've done recently in this New Land.
Speaker 2: Even if it's a smaller school.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're still conference championships or whatever it is. A
coach oe was here already Notre Dame. I don't evenmember
what they were doing that year.
Speaker 3: I mean they were on the outside looking into a
fourteen playoff. But again, it's going to take some things
to happen in front of them, and thinking about like
six maybe that year so.
Speaker 4: That they could it'd be great. I mean, if they
can get it figured out to where that happens, awesome.
I just think the likelihood of that happening is pretty low.
Just I was just a little shocked here that December
third is the first signing period that it wasn't like
mid December.
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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna go around the room.
Speaker 3: Give me one name that you do not want as
the LSU head football coach, Beth Liam James Franklin. Yes,
I was actually gonna kind of make a joke about
it and say, Dennis Allen, but that's a great answer in.
Speaker 2: This Allen him either James Franklin, Alandra Lane Kiffin, all right, Taytay.
Speaker 6: Love the guy whose name gets brought up a lot, unfortunately,
Kelvin Sheppard.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's ready to be a head coach
in college. He'd be awesome, he'd bring in though he would.
I just that's just a risky war daddy.
Speaker 4: He cranked the diesel if you think about it, though,
I don't know what risky means or what risky is.
Speaker 2: People around you that are good, I would say Joe Brady,
and I love Joe. I think Joe's exactly where Joe
needs to be, though m h, I think he enjoys
that more. Ye, I think he's.
Speaker 3: An NFL coach, And there's a difference. There's a difference
not to say that I don't think he would do well.
Speaker 2: I just I don't think right now, for him or
for LSU, that would be the best move.
Speaker 4: And we were having an interesting discussion at the break
here said lude Temper and loud Temper. In so long,
we'd have an interesting discussion here at the break about
Lane Kiffen and about you know, there's some question marks
there for us if I he's probably the guy trusts
the least about like waiting and waiting and waiting till
the to the ninth hour to him to make a
decision because he's like proven that he can pull this
rug out from underneath you. And then just like he
is a great coach, he's created a great culture there
and he's a great play caller.
Speaker 2: But he does make decisions every now and then that like.
Speaker 4: Get you like with your head tilted a little bit
always by this past game he went forward on his
own twenty five on fourth down, missed.
Speaker 2: It was a great decision.
Speaker 4: Taylor brought up that he took out a starting quarterback
in the red zone near the goal line twice during
the game.
Speaker 2: Didn't work out here, y'all.
Speaker 4: But you're also forgetting one key factor. They won the game, true,
but they lose. They lost the LSU last year. They
shouldn't know. They lose one to two games every year
that they are not supposed to.
Speaker 2: Haven't this year.
Speaker 1: Off the bench