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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. It's been a little bit.

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But to the gen V Season two, episodes one to three.

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I'm the cliche spy tresnil.

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Speaker 2: I'm joined by the remember Taylor Field, you remember there

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you go?

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, because boys, did we do? I

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feel like, was it last year or not?

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Speaker 2: Oh? It was for sure? Was it?

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Speaker 1: Okay? I just can't remember. So that's kind of what

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they seem to be going in Aussie. The Boys final

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season is next year, and then I imagine afters I

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can't remember what they're calling that show, but it's the

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show with storm Front and Soldier Boy, remember that when

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they're doing like the prequel one. Yeah, so I imagine they'll

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switch on off and we'll have to see what they

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do for this show. But yeah, we're gonna talk about this.

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This is we're gonna review, give you our first thoughts

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because Ossie, it is three episodes, so maybe you're gonna

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get around too. It's gonna take a week. We will

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give you a couple of minutes. I just not spore

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our thoughts. We'll take an ad break and then we'll

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get into spoilers thoughts. Uh yeah, listen, because we talked

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about we're gonna like and see how it goes. Luckily,

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we've had a lot of good stuff this year, like

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some like Alien, our biggest review series of the year

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did not have that pegged when we had like Daredevil

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and Last of Us. So we're not I try to

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say this in the nicest way. I don't try to

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like thread and be like, we're not gonna do them all.

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We're for sure gonna review this season. We're just seeing

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the best because it is a busy month.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I was talking to you off air at least luckily

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I kind of forgot that. Now we do the three episodes,

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there's only five aliens ending, but if you like this,

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we're definitely doing this in episode four and then yeah,

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listen to them, share them, spread them, because just because

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if it's a busy time and they pull like, you know,

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decent numbers or lower numbers, then maybe we won't. We

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just have to kind of go edge and flow. But

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we like talking about the stuff. It's just that we

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got lots of busy stuff. And if people forget I

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haven't started promoting yet, but Extra Life is coming up,

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and you probably go, oh, why you get so busy

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because of that day, because usually there's just lots of

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planning and lots of we pre record stuff so we

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can take some of those weeks off. I'm always talking

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to people about trivia, so it's it's like the GV

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day where it's like there's lots of stuff, there's videos.

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I'm talking to people about gaul when I want to

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try and get more because gall Let's coming back and

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that's us four. But I want to try and secure

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some people that aren't just us. But I'm not gonna

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I'm not gonna reveal those people. I'm gonna keep those

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nice and close to the chest. There, So lots of

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good stuff coming up. Vought Rising is a prequel, so

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thank you very much, and lots of good stuff. That's

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what you get a geek. First, there's you know what

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I can tell you there. I bet you there's nowhere

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in the Internet where people are not doing this full time.

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as much as us. We've got Alien Earth right now.

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We got well Textures ended, we got Peacemaker. I'm doing

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two trast holds you a week. We got Pidequests, we

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got after nine this Friday, six pm PSD, and that's like,

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and we got the gimmick this weekend. Every week you're

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getting four to five casts usually a minimum. Now it's

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almost becoming like a weekday cast, soon to be weekly.

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The amount of stuff we put out. The Tron retrospective

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is now live for the producers. That'll be live for

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the phase tune up after in a week or so,

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but the producers get it last or first, and then

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go to Patron and vote for the retro we're gonna

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do next year. I'm not gonna list them off, but

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there's about I think it's eleven franchises on there, some

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really good ones, some really interesting ones. So you can

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go and vote and talk about what we're gonna be

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reviewing for twenty twenty six, along with Punisher and another

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one we haven't announced, and some other stuff too. So

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thank you to our Patreon producers. Aaron Brain Apra of Darkness,

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Jack Grant Days, I'm gonna hold up Sam, super Bad, Mike,

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obviously we're back so to their field. What did you

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political show, but the last few seasons, especially last season,

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on what's happening nowadays, but there's literally stuff happening last

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week tonight that is just storylines from this show, which

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is just kind of crazy. So the creators must pay

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but what do you think so far? A non spoiler

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of the first three episodes of the season two.

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Speaker 2: I honestly I wish that I went back and watched

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a little bit of that first season because I don't

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cap at least I didn't get a recap on my phone.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I didn't pop up.

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but it didn't prompt me a recap. And also just

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a side rant, when the fuck did they did Amazon

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just slide ads in there? I pay for a yearly subscription.

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separate thing because I always paid for Amazon Prime. It

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came with a video, and then all of a sudden,

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now they just threw ads in there, and like you

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Speaker 1: Did you not get that when we did our watch

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along for uh what we did?

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Speaker 2: I've always had it. I'm just realizing and now that

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and I fucking hate it so well because like Kisney Plus,

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Speaker 1: Well I think they do on a free another free

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tip of the basic tier. So because I think what

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trying to just like half the funds of this is

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what we may go back into the show and like

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Speaker 2: I just wish that they sent me like a personal

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email and say, hey, Taylor, you know what. We know

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you've been paying for the subscription, but you know what we're.

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Speaker 1: Going to now to add instead of just like, no,

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Speaker 1: I think you can pay for a higher tier where

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Speaker 1: So, but what do you think about the actual show?

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be like Kim are gonna.

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that a lot of characters that I thought, Okay, I

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really got to just kind of remember where these characters fit.

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just the kind of backstories, because there's a lot that

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component to the Boys universe. So that being said, two

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episodes and I was right back in like, Okay, yeah, no,

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world that I like and some zaniness, and we got

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to that third episode, Okay, yeah, we're getting into the

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thick of it now with like big Cliffhanger, getting into

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more like the mysterious kind of subplot that's involved here

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how things are gonna unfold. But my only con is

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how And I don't want to say it's a con

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because obviously it's very unfortunate that the show lost an

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important individual or involved and so they had to pivot

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the narrative for the show. So when you get the

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characters in here picking up after that first season, I

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think like like T'Challa and Leah and like he Fledger's joker. No,

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that degree, but still like you know, and I kind

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of forgot for the show the pulp is name, but yeah,

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recipiece of that actor because man young career just starting out.

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this facility and then just where they appear at the

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beginning of season two. It's like, it's that simple. I

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don't think they would have got that kind of a pass,

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is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think I think also gonna get into spoils.

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and think about this. But it just reminds me obviously

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but Dexter did that too, right where new Blood happened,

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and then Resurexick, how are you getting get this? It's like, oh,

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it's pretty easy. Dexter get back on the road, right,

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we're just gonna do this. And I just especially in

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this world, I'll say, before we get into spoilers, it

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just feels like they've cleaned up worse issues or easy

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like like more minor issues in a more serious way.

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episode really hits home, like I think I do I

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appreciate that because there's they really could have just written

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that character off and not talked about him and all everything.

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that plot point a lot. But you know, I don't

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mind it. I was the same way with a Quanda forever.

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I know some people didn't like that, they just won recast.

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I think it's also honoring that actor's legacy a little bit,

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especially for this guy where he was so young, Like god, like,

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how old was he? This guy? This guy was He's

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born in nineteen ninety six, so he wasn't even that

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much older than like me used through so I'm thir,

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what am I am? Now? Thirty two? So yeah, he

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was twenty nine years old. That's crazy. You know, I'm

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just starting to be in a hit show. So I

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like that. But I agree. I think what Mike's in

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here is happy. They didn't spend multiple episodes in prison.

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But it was a bit clunky. Obviously maybe some moners

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police there, but yeah, I think it was. I think

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for me, I would have been fine with a multiple

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episode arc of some things. I just wish it wasn't

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so easy. I think that's happening with a lot of

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things this season. But so far, I'm enjoying it. Not

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that I forgot, but there's multiple characters in here. I

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do really like. Emma is obviously still the standout. I

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just really like that actress. I'm excited to see what

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she can do. I think there's other characters where I

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just again need a little bit more. It's only three

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episodes in, but it's just there's one in particular, whereas

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it because I like the character, I like the actress.

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They pulled the name with Kate or Kat. I really

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liked the two of them together, but I feel there's

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some lacking with that character. But I think if you

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like the boys, you're getting what you want. You're getting

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super I think right away they're amping the degree of

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some more action and this not as much as the Boys,

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but more action versus a college show. There's a mystery race,

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you got that going on. Uh, there's you know, sex,

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drugs and rock and roll. You got that going on.

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You see lots of powers. I think for myself the

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other thing is too is that's where something because people

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have debated right with the boys and now Vaught rising

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and this is like at first I kind of start

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parenting MSU and DCU, and now they're like kind of

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becoming that. Right. But I think what I will appreciate

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with this show as always and I even you know,

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shout out Superman James guns one when it did that, Right,

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what I appreciate is true, it might be is gonna

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become a parody of a parody could in a sense.

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the non spoilers or at the beginning, was just how

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political it is, because we're never gonna get that far

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in dc We're never gonna get that far in MCU.

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And for some reason, if you're if you're really hard

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on I don't like politics, and I think then this

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show is definitely not for you. It's way more hitting

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on that if you're somebody that might be kind of

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tired of it. Because we talked about this with Dariel, Right,

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there's mbile people that are like, man, I'm tired of

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bad corporate criminal rises to fame and power and becomes

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you know, president mayor, which I get, right, and this

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has a lot of that. There's literal things that are happening,

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like about censorship. That's happening currently right now at ABC

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and Jimmy Kimmel. That happens in the show. There is

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a subplot in the show where a character gets assaulted,

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and let's just say with the recent assassination in our world,

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it's similar where that happens, and then a certain side

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is putting all the things onto one thing that it

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really isn't but they're just using this moment as a narrative.

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They don't care as much as what happened with person.

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It's that's not the main talking point is about how

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can we use this to control X, Y and Z

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show does a great job of showing how scary like

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the hive mind can get, and how scary you can

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control people through phones and through like hive mind and

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just sheet mentality, where it's just like, yeah, you can

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just perpetrate this thing, and if no one's scared, like

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if someone's too scared to talk up about it or

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do anything or doesn't have the power do anything, there's

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not much you really can do about it. So I

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think that's where I think the show's kind of singing is.

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It's sure there is some satire to it, but they're

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hitting on some stuff that's very realistic and very one

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to one. Like I said, Last of the Boys did

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that with the star Lighters versus Homelanders, right, but this

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is continuing that and I think one aspect I'm really

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liking it's again non spoilers before we get there is

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there is the human character, which we'll talk more about

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in a second. Really liking that dynamic and seeing that

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side of the Okay, now the Soups, the evil Soups,

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have won and taken over and they're ruling with this

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big right hand. So what do you do when you

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were the person just trying to make ends meet and

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trying to live your life and you have no powers,

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you got no friends, you know, and to defend yourself.

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You're just trying to work your job and a bunch

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of stuff happens, right, So that stuff's all good. I

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don't think there's anything that like I like like lack

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my ass off or anything. But I think it was

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a good three episodes. Like think what Taylor said, it

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ends in a good cliffhanger sense, and I'm excited to

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see what happens next week and see you know, especially

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I'm excited to see what happens after the boys too,

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like what they continue to do with this show, but

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anything else non spoilers day there negative all right, so

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we're gonna take our first ad break and then we'll

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be right back. Okay, we are back. So with three

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episodes here, I was just gonna say, we go this

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kind of by character by character, group by group. So

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what do you who do you want to start with?

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What what storyline is bugging? Or you want to start

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with de Andre prison stuff at the beginning?

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Speaker 2: Start with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so now you can speak freely with that. We're

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in the spoilers, so if anyone's not seen it, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So just the idea.

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Speaker 1: I got nothing, the idea that they.

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Speaker 2: Started off with. Okay, they're in they're in jail, like

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Vought jail. It's not looking good. They started uprising the

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school was just chaos, anarchy, and so now we're just

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back to normal, back to square one. It's like, okay,

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no are they were let out. They made a deal

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with Vought. Why they made a deal with Fought, Why

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thought would offer a deal doesn't make it.

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Speaker 1: That's for me. The big thing. I kind of get

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why they would write because even if it goes against

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their morals. They just want to be alive, right, And

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the same thing. It's like, that's what I don't understand.

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With thought, you would think that, Okay, these people that

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get up, but they're still on the outside. It's not

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there's not even an episode of them being like, well,

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you know what, I'm scared, let's not do anything right away.

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They're back on the Scooby Doo case of trying to

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take the academy down. You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you don't really get a lot of uh

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like set up or build up, like there's just not

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enough information there. Really, it's just yeah, what they're what

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they're their sorry is and so uh they're out, and

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it's not all of them are, because Marie obviously isn't.

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And so then just with her, it just seems like

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it's rushed because Starlight appears and you know, she's just like, oh,

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all she has to do is just do a video

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saying she wants to go back to school and that's it.

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So okay, I guess that that is it. And so

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that's what I didn't like. I didn't like how they

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were just get in this, you know deal, just to

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get out with this jail jail free cards. I would

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have liked a little bit more story because it seemed

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like such a big thing for them just to be

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tossed into this vaught prison and just like, holy shit,

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this is this is great, especially with the other two.

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Why did they have to make a deal. I don't

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know why they did that, especially because they're trying to

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have like redeeming qualities for Kate now like, oh, I'm

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on your side, I'm here, Marie. It's like what you

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guys were fucking evil in the last season by the

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finale so.

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Speaker 1: Well though the guy let me get the characters in

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because I'm still funky on the mall. But the one

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that sees the puppets there, Sam, I wouldn't say he's evil.

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I think he's like a kind of an experiment gone

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wrong in a way because I don't know if you remember,

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but he spent I don't know how many years, but

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multiple years, like locked up in a vault facility. So

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I think he's just And also we see that Kate's

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like manipulating him right with the visions and the thoughts,

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So I don't really put him on evil. And I

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think the show, I don't think the show's trying to

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make Kate evil, but I think the poor is making

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Kate evil because I could believe that she does all

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this stuff. Thought she was doing the right thing, but

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now she because when she's like, I'm the one that

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got you out, I thought, Okay, this is the start

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of redeeming this character. Right of for some reason, because

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she technically I don't know what they did it, but

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she could have said that she mind controlled somebody or

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made them change their mind like with the touch right

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and decide like that, like that's how I'm gonna get

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you out of here. I just didn't believe with that.

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And then later on they talk she reads her mind,

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and I guess I understand she reads who's mind there

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Marie's mind.

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Speaker 2: I forgot she could do that.

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Speaker 1: I think she. I can't remember if that was a

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newer skill or not, because they know the touching people.

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Was that I think either, I think they that was

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a secret for half the season. I could be wrong.

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I think it was that Piel didn't know without touching

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she could do that, or she acquired it whatever. But

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when she read it again, I understand the POV when

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she's like, hey, I've kept secret from vaults. They do bad,

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terrible stuff. I think they just need to kind of

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on it a bit more and maybe humanize her a

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little bit. They have her and I don't think it's

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the actress. I feel like it's the writing, the directing.

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They have her acting so cold at times. Maybe we're

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gonna get some Kate or Cat episode, which is it's Cat.

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Speaker 2: Right Kate.

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Speaker 1: I thought, fuck gets with a seat, so that's allways

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screaming up. So maybe I get some Kate episode that

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can really get that through. But I thought her getting

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the mad there was the start of hey, I was wrong,

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I'm gonna make it right where it seems like that

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was the intention, But then when they didn't just accept

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her again right away, she's like, got fuck these people,

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you know, like I'm kind of down with them, which

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is the same thing of I don't know what she

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wants to do, because I guess I get it from

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her perspective when uh, she gets blown into the electrical

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box and her head's bleeding, but they're like, hey, don't

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touch her, because it's like, yeah, you've given them no

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reason to trust you, right, they don't know what's gonna happen,

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so it's like that, and that's where I thought, Okay,

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maybe this is gonna be the moment where she realized, Hey,

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they wouldn't even touch me. To save my life. I

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have fucked up a main lot of errors. But the

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next when she's like season on the campus, she's given

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them the bitch look. She's all mad about it. So

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it's like, okay, So either if they're gonna try to

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redeem this character, I think they gotta do some bitter

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writing with her or just make her full evil, right,

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just have her ham it up. Go that way. So

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but what I was saying the nonspoys, I think even

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if the Andre character was alive, I still think this

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is the way they would have got out of prison.

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And yeah, I don't buy it. I understand the Marie

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character because obviously there's some missy with her, right, she's

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the Odessa, so whatever it's gonna be. They need her

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for X Y and Z. A Hamish link later, who

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is now the new like headmaster of the school. I

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really like that reveal that he was there when she

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was born. So it's like, Okay, there's lots of going on,

471
00:20:41,559 --> 00:20:44,400
so I could understand. Okay, well, Marie caught her the

472
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,440
deal now, same thing, Like you could have had a

473
00:20:47,519 --> 00:20:49,559
scene where she only makes that deal if her friends

474
00:20:49,599 --> 00:20:51,799
are alive, right, like if she can understand, but we

475
00:20:51,839 --> 00:20:54,200
don't get that. Just they got that and Marie was

476
00:20:54,279 --> 00:20:56,839
just on the run. But again, everything with Marie I'm

477
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,119
fine with because she has some power they want to

478
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,920
you know, hole, Okay, fine, but the friends, why wouldn't

479
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,279
they just kill them? Maybe I guess they haven't stayed this,

480
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,920
but I guess maybe they don't want to kill them

481
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,960
because Marie wouldn't be there at all, I guess with

482
00:21:09,039 --> 00:21:11,279
all the friends. But they didn't state that on state

483
00:21:11,319 --> 00:21:13,480
or showed that on screen. They just gave them a deal, right,

484
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,519
So so maybe that if they can get us there,

485
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,400
then maybe again a couple more episodes, I will be

486
00:21:19,519 --> 00:21:21,279
more welcome to the idea. But I do agree with

487
00:21:21,319 --> 00:21:23,519
you that on the surface, it just felt like we've

488
00:21:23,559 --> 00:21:27,519
seen Homelander kill just multiple just like little people, like

489
00:21:27,799 --> 00:21:30,680
there's that one, like even just I guess it was

490
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,359
a still big deal. But like wh start, I brought

491
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,519
her like first boyfriend on the team in like vouche

492
00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:36,200
for him, he like took them to the rooftop and

493
00:21:36,319 --> 00:21:38,680
just mangle them right. So it's just like there's and

494
00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:41,599
this these are people that started a like a movement,

495
00:21:41,759 --> 00:21:44,759
like kind of a like a I won't say a ride,

496
00:21:44,799 --> 00:21:47,119
but that campus was a known public thing, right, and

497
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,480
they said they got framed. But it just feels like

498
00:21:49,599 --> 00:21:53,599
it's more for Vaught. It's more trouble than or it's

499
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,680
more hassled that than worth the trouble, you know.

500
00:21:55,839 --> 00:21:59,039
Speaker 2: So I don't know. Yeah, so yeah, no, And that's

501
00:21:59,079 --> 00:22:02,000
totally right. That's a fair point because yeah, Homelanders killing soups,

502
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,000
that's right and center. He doesn't care necessarily about them

503
00:22:05,079 --> 00:22:08,000
unless they play a direct benefit to him, right.

504
00:22:08,039 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 1: So especially now I feel they can get rid of

505
00:22:10,559 --> 00:22:12,559
even more so now he's got the power, right.

506
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's running Vaughd at this point. I'm

507
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:15,920
pretty sure.

508
00:22:16,079 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, And Mike says, I think it's just for

509
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,480
good optics, since they are soups and creating the arena

510
00:22:21,559 --> 00:22:23,839
that they help stop evil humans. I get it. I

511
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,960
just feel like we're past the point now where Vaught

512
00:22:26,039 --> 00:22:29,240
is they will just do bad shit and then we'll

513
00:22:29,319 --> 00:22:30,839
just make anything there of like they did with the

514
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,440
k thing right where she gets attacked and they just

515
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,359
say I put it on the Starlighter Rider people and

516
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,160
they kill them, right. So it's just like they do

517
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,759
whatever they want whenever they want. So I agree with you,

518
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,119
Mike In sends me a couple of seasons ago. But

519
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,480
now when Homelander is literally i'd say the president but

520
00:22:45,519 --> 00:22:47,240
maybe soon to be like the ruler of the world,

521
00:22:47,319 --> 00:22:49,680
I feel they can really do whatever they want. And

522
00:22:49,759 --> 00:22:52,599
that is the tough thing of maybe an in between season,

523
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,400
right because in the Boys final season, I bet you

524
00:22:55,519 --> 00:22:58,079
will see Homelander just do a bunch of wreaking havoc

525
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,119
because he's very likely gonna die, right, Like the good

526
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,240
guys are gonna win, so you can get as low

527
00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:04,880
as possible. So it feels like it's kind of like

528
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,240
an like we're in a holding pattern into the Boys

529
00:23:08,319 --> 00:23:10,400
and season three can or sort of the final seas

530
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,559
can pop off and do their own thing. So but yeah,

531
00:23:13,599 --> 00:23:17,039
what do you think with Marie and this Odessa thing?

532
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,319
Got any theories there? The theory was that they at first,

533
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,200
I guess the pregnant the people couldn't get pregnant, so

534
00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:25,200
they got to Vaught and I guess there's some sort

535
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,400
of deal as well where they made her a soup.

536
00:23:27,839 --> 00:23:30,240
They revealed that her sister was like a miracle baby,

537
00:23:30,279 --> 00:23:31,960
but I guess that's part of the reason. But clearly

538
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,720
I imagine there's more than she just was like fought

539
00:23:34,759 --> 00:23:36,960
helped them get pregnant, right, so you got anything cooking

540
00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:37,759
in the mind there.

541
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,400
Speaker 2: Well that was the kind of journal. Well get the

542
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,599
getting pregnant thing. I think that's that's a first. But

543
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,519
the general theme though, like Okay, people are expecting and

544
00:23:45,599 --> 00:23:48,279
they're like, oh, give us that vaught juice, and then

545
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,599
we compound v and we toss that into our kids

546
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,119
and we get superpowers, and the parents get compensated for that,

547
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:58,039
they get paid for it. So I mean it fits

548
00:23:58,079 --> 00:24:00,480
with the theme because they've always been doing that kind

549
00:24:00,519 --> 00:24:03,599
of stuff, right, It's been their general go to. So

550
00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:08,240
her being I don't know, they alluded to like that

551
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,359
Jesus figure, like Okay, she was conceived here. Maybe she's

552
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,559
just the first soup that's just born out of the

553
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,359
compound V. I mean, I don't know, Maybe there's something

554
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,240
about her that makes her a first, right, just like

555
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,000
Homelander is a first and of his kind. He's that superman,

556
00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:30,440
U's that and whatnot. So yeah, I don't know. I'm

557
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,480
trying to think, like even with her powers, and obviously

558
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,640
the director sees something or knows something that she doesn't

559
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,680
because she cuts herself in order to get the blood

560
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,319
out and to use it. But there must be some

561
00:24:41,559 --> 00:24:44,880
other play here, something else, like she doesn't have to

562
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,319
do it that way, right, I'm wondering what he was

563
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,200
alluding to. Very cool to see how she was taken

564
00:24:50,279 --> 00:24:54,039
on the hammer bro. Oh my gosh, that guy was

565
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,640
just very crazy.

566
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,559
Speaker 1: The power through like a mini heart attack. I looked

567
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,119
like too yeah on there, so but I guess like

568
00:25:01,319 --> 00:25:04,000
she's I think I guess there's probably a no kill

569
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,880
rule there, right, Not that she was going to kill him,

570
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,839
but I feel like if she could go full, that

571
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,680
guy's kind of done right like most people, I figure,

572
00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:12,920
kind of dad, I think the only one I feel

573
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,359
like because there was the Senator girl I can't remember.

574
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,400
Obviously she died in the Boys, that was the head popper,

575
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,119
and they revealed that that she has the same power.

576
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,440
I think, didn't they reveal that she couldn't do that

577
00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:24,920
at Homelander. I thought that was something or for some

578
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,359
reason it didn't work. She never gone to I don't know,

579
00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:30,079
but obviously. I don't think she's gonna be the secret weapon.

580
00:25:30,079 --> 00:25:31,839
I don't think they're gonna make you watch gen Vita

581
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:32,799
take on Homelander.

582
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: But they've talked about how you could do it on Homelander.

583
00:25:35,319 --> 00:25:38,920
But she got fucked up because the boys killed her, right, you.

584
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,799
Speaker 1: Know, the boys tried to kill her. I think it

585
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,519
ended up Homelander was the one that killed her overall,

586
00:25:43,599 --> 00:25:45,839
I thought so. I thought they tried to kill her.

587
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:46,920
And what's his name?

588
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: Weren't they dealing with the flying like flying cows, the

589
00:25:50,519 --> 00:25:52,359
mutant cows, the super cows?

590
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: She was there though, I thought.

591
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 2: She was, and I thought that was where she died

592
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,359
because she was there looking for her kid or was

593
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,960
it her house with the husband her She had the

594
00:26:02,039 --> 00:26:04,759
kid with the scientist guy and they were holding him hostage.

595
00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:06,160
Color when I was holding him hostage?

596
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: But then how did she die? I thought Homelander killed her.

597
00:26:09,079 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: Still I'm gonna look because I don't remember him killing her.

598
00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: I love being a lot of deaths on the boys here.

599
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,680
But uh yeah, So I still continue to like the

600
00:26:16,759 --> 00:26:19,440
marine character a lot, like that actress. I really like

601
00:26:19,519 --> 00:26:21,599
that scene with her aunt. That was some good stuff.

602
00:26:22,519 --> 00:26:25,720
I'm liking the dynamic she has with Uh, with the

603
00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:28,640
bibe with Jordan, I really like that. That's tons of

604
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,920
fun there just navigating their dynamic. Revealed she was a

605
00:26:32,079 --> 00:26:34,400
virgin and then said I love you to Uh her first.

606
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,720
Obviously there comes a lot of uh like is this

607
00:26:37,839 --> 00:26:40,559
true love or whatnot? So I I just continue to

608
00:26:40,759 --> 00:26:42,680
like the character. And I like this actress a lot.

609
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,240
I think she does a good job of being kind

610
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,599
of a leader and strong, but also having kind of

611
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,920
a human innocent quality, like the times where she said

612
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,599
I love you and the you know they didn't say

613
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,119
it back and stuff. So I'm continuing to like her

614
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,480
as a lead. And she was doing some missions on

615
00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:01,200
the side. Also, he brought up the Starlight er, so

616
00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:03,319
we got her to Starlight, we got her Annie, we

617
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,519
got a cameo there, so you know, they're pulling the

618
00:27:05,559 --> 00:27:07,119
big guns. I'm not sure what's gonna happen. I'm not

619
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,240
sure if we're gonna because she wouldn't speak about the boys.

620
00:27:09,599 --> 00:27:11,599
I wonder if we're gonna get Huie or we're gonna

621
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,319
get Carl Urban at some point. I don't need that

622
00:27:13,519 --> 00:27:15,839
to make the show great. But it was just right

623
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,200
away they level star starlight, right, It wasn't like last

624
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,279
season where they waved to the end to bring a homeland.

625
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:21,920
They led it with a big gun right away. So

626
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,920
uh yeah, it's an interesting time. So anything specifically it was.

627
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,279
Speaker 2: Billy Butcher pulled the tentacles out and rips her apart

628
00:27:31,319 --> 00:27:31,880
and kills her.

629
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: But did he was it one of those things that

630
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,599
he didn't know we did it right?

631
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if it wasn't like this is at

632
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,640
the end when we finally realized like he was doing

633
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,319
his weird shit, and I think he lashes out against her. Yeah,

634
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,039
it says I pushed over the edge. Billy Butcher arrives

635
00:27:49,079 --> 00:27:51,839
and then uses tentacal powers to rip her in half,

636
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:52,400
killing her.

637
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: Geez, I'm not have to rewatch that season, even though

638
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,920
I did not really like that last season too much,

639
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,599
so I'll have to find a good recap. But yeah,

640
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,920
anything others specifically with Marie you want to talk about here?

641
00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:08,079
Speaker 2: Uh no, just I'm interested to see how this is

642
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,000
gonna play out. When now that they've admitted, well, Jordan

643
00:28:12,079 --> 00:28:17,480
admitted that they're the ones who killed their name's Jordan, right, Yeah, Yeah,

644
00:28:17,599 --> 00:28:20,240
Jordan admitted that they're yeah, they take they take the

645
00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:23,400
fall there, so they didn't state like, oh, Marie is

646
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,200
involved or anything like that, even though Emma said, like,

647
00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:30,200
that's Jordan and Marie thing, right, So it'd be interesting

648
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,039
to see what happens.

649
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I thought they introduced that, I'm pretty sure

650
00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:35,319
in episode three, and I thought that was gonna be

651
00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:37,480
a couple episodes of them just using this. And even

652
00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:40,920
then too, I wondered, I guess it's tough, right because

653
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,240
you could see them being that that could have helped

654
00:28:43,319 --> 00:28:46,319
them being like an inside agent, them just agreeing to

655
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,759
work with von everything. But I think the point of

656
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,319
also having the boys and what's happening now on the show,

657
00:28:51,359 --> 00:28:52,799
and then even what's what I talked about, like with

658
00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:55,279
World World stuff, I think they're trying to show that

659
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,359
you should speak up to stop these things or they're

660
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,960
gonna keep happening. Right if you don't put things a up,

661
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,599
if you don't say something, you know, you're as bad

662
00:29:02,599 --> 00:29:04,200
as the person letting it happen. And then plus they

663
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,039
did not say you know the other Peel's names so

664
00:29:06,039 --> 00:29:08,519
they can go to work and find out. And yeah,

665
00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:09,519
that was a quick turn around.

666
00:29:09,559 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: Two.

667
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,119
Speaker 1: Same thing with the love thing. I thought that was

668
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,799
gonna be a few more episodes of them like himming

669
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,799
and hawing about, like like you know, especially with the

670
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,240
Marie version thing, But now I don't. It's I guess

671
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,720
they might have just said it because they might think

672
00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:23,079
they might be dead next episode, right, because they're gonna

673
00:29:23,079 --> 00:29:26,640
get arrested. And Hamish Link later didn't look too fond.

674
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,480
I was gonna say, how are you feeling about the

675
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:31,799
new Dean? And I'm gonna ask you could be a

676
00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:34,000
true question, but why do you think they've not shown

677
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,200
or talked about what powers he has? Because that's a

678
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,039
big thing. They say, no one knows what his powers are.

679
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: Oh well, his name's Cipher, so I have to wonder,

680
00:29:43,599 --> 00:29:45,960
like what is that. Let's see the definition because all

681
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,359
these nicknames all mean something.

682
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: You rememberhere, you've seen him from though, right.

683
00:29:51,319 --> 00:29:56,759
Speaker 2: Isn't he from he plays the brother? Oh my god,

684
00:29:57,039 --> 00:29:59,599
what Julia Lariy Dreyfus.

685
00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: Yes, he'd uh he's He's also in the original Fantastic Four,

686
00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:08,039
but he's also in Midnight Mass, remember the main priests

687
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:08,799
kind of.

688
00:30:10,319 --> 00:30:10,519
Speaker 2: Mass?

689
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, that no I forgot? How okay?

690
00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:17,920
This Halloween you need to knock that out, especially you're

691
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,559
in such a vampire mood like that is the best

692
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,799
vampire thing we've got in this generation. I feel Midnight

693
00:30:23,839 --> 00:30:26,640
Mass is incredible. He plays a priest in there, and

694
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,839
he is scary. Good watch it. I think it's only

695
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,599
in episodes you're making me want to rewatch it. It

696
00:30:31,759 --> 00:30:35,759
is one of the Oh my god, I fuck I

697
00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:38,240
didn't put that on my top ten TV shows. Oh

698
00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:40,519
oh yeah, I would have put that. That's an rnable mention.

699
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,200
That would have been. Oh and here say, I guess

700
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,559
it's favorites. That would be my best But yeah, that is.

701
00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:47,720
You should watch that tear. That is a great vampire show,

702
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,079
and he is That's his best role ever. He's he

703
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,319
You think he's good in this show, and I know

704
00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:56,000
he's good in New Adventures of Old Christine. You will

705
00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:57,680
watch him in minute aspect. This is one of the

706
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,880
greatest actors we got. He gives an all star performance

707
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,880
that the Discord will back me up with that. I

708
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,759
will take you in the morning four I am. I'll

709
00:31:04,759 --> 00:31:06,799
be like, hey, everybody, tell tell Taylor about this. But

710
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:08,880
did you find what cipher means?

711
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,839
Speaker 2: Cipher definition a secret or disguised way of writing code.

712
00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: So it's just that he's secret of My theory is

713
00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:20,440
he has no powers. That's my theory.

714
00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:26,559
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I could see that, but he just exudes

715
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,960
confidence and it just has the sense. I mean, it

716
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,039
could always he could be gaslighting and faking.

717
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, wouldn't that help though? If they all think his

718
00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:35,440
powers and it's like, oh, what does he have? We

719
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,559
don't Like they could think he has this terrible power,

720
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,200
but really he doesn't. I could be wrong and maybe

721
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,839
he'll turn the fucking haulk one episode. But it's just

722
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:48,759
my theory unless it is literally something of they talked about,

723
00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:51,559
like the Kim being the doctor of Marie. What if

724
00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:53,359
he literally has like the gift of life and not

725
00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:57,440
like reproducing, but that right, like changing people's genetics, Like

726
00:31:57,519 --> 00:31:59,920
what if the drug or something like that comes from him,

727
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:01,880
Like he could help someone get pregnant.

728
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: So I don't know, Yeah, it's possible. He just there's

729
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,039
definitely something that they're alluding to with him, for sure,

730
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,200
more than what they've said like yeah, keeping the powers

731
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,680
of hidden mystery. I think that he's just got something

732
00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:21,039
to do with uh uh, some kind of power that

733
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,079
involves like you said, yeah, creation or.

734
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: I really hope they don't make him like Marie's dad.

735
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope not either, although I hope there's acting like.

736
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: I hope there's nothing like, oh, you know, your dad's

737
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,160
sperm cameslower this and that. So I was a way

738
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,720
to like help out and you go to pardon me.

739
00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:43,640
I don't want that, is right. Yeah, he's great in

740
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,440
Legion and Legion that's funny. He's playing like kind of

741
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,960
a similar role. But he's really great there. And I'm

742
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,880
nice to see you again. Cipher crags me up. I

743
00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:53,599
like his clownforms. I thought we lost you after the

744
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,039
dex reviews. But you know we're we're we're doing this now.

745
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,039
So let's see. Can we talk about Jordan. Yeah, I

746
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,960
still love the dynamic, like that character.

747
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:02,759
Speaker 2: Uh.

748
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,599
Speaker 1: The thing that I was going to bring up was

749
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:07,000
something another thing we're talking about how easy it is

750
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:11,319
and the escaping from prison. Andre's dad polarity to me

751
00:33:11,759 --> 00:33:15,920
another like what Vaut really let this man be around

752
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,400
to the school with everything?

753
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: I think so, because I mean, what did he do

754
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:20,680
in season one that was wrong?

755
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: I mean he's just like but he was so his

756
00:33:23,119 --> 00:33:25,400
son was locked his son was locked up and died

757
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:26,599
trying to get at a prison.

758
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 2: Yes, but I think from what they've seen, like his

759
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,759
dad was very much on the opposite end of that spectrum,

760
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,839
like do this, do this, do this. His dad was

761
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,880
always like an advocate for like just played by the

762
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,759
book Da DA. He was always trying to put him

763
00:33:38,759 --> 00:33:40,799
in the interviews. So I think he was very much

764
00:33:41,079 --> 00:33:43,279
front and center and by the book so to Vaught,

765
00:33:43,359 --> 00:33:47,279
he probably looks like he's just youah, the golden person, right,

766
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,519
like he's just always been there. And I think again

767
00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:52,359
what worked in their favor was that I remember correctly,

768
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,279
like his son and him had that kind of like

769
00:33:54,599 --> 00:33:56,359
heart to heart and his dad kind of woke up

770
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,200
a little bit at the end of season one. So

771
00:33:58,279 --> 00:34:01,279
I think that again really helps with this transformation to

772
00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:04,079
this character. If they didn't do that, it would have

773
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,720
been you know, it still would have been fitting, but

774
00:34:05,799 --> 00:34:08,039
it just it helps set it up a little bit better.

775
00:34:08,599 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: I just wish there was I wish he had a

776
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,119
scene with Cipher the same way Mari did of kind

777
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:18,400
of like talk like like just like Cipher being making

778
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,159
sure it's all water on the bridge not emitting faults

779
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,719
at all, you know, to them doing anything wrong. But

780
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,639
just you know, like I hope even with the loss

781
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,679
or like almost like a minor intimidation and Polarity just

782
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,559
act like, yeah, it's all good, Like I understand X,

783
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:33,159
Y and Z. Maybe that scene's coming. It just feels

784
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,559
a little too easy for me that the kids that

785
00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:37,280
were locked up, oh well they're back to the school

786
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,719
have to making the deals. The son who we killed

787
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,000
while his dad's just hanging around the school teaching classes.

788
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:46,039
That's it just seems again a little too easy. Super

789
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,920
Mike says he loved the guy of Dog Pirates would

790
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,480
a freak. Yeah that was some dogs. That was some

791
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:56,000
good stuff. Let's see, says I agree. It doesn't make

792
00:34:56,039 --> 00:34:57,679
sense for Polarity still be there, but it makes sense

793
00:34:57,679 --> 00:34:59,760
for him to have a bigger role. Absolutely. I feel

794
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,559
like a lot of stuff that was probably for Andre

795
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,480
they probably repurposed for his dad there. And I finally

796
00:35:04,599 --> 00:35:06,840
like the actor, like the character. I don't like his

797
00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:09,639
chances of making it to the season because I just

798
00:35:09,679 --> 00:35:11,800
think he looks like a character that could do a

799
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,960
Sacril official play. But uh, you know, we'll see. Uh

800
00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:17,960
let's take our second ad break and we'll be right back,

801
00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:21,840
and we are backs. We talked about them.

802
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,679
Speaker 2: I gotta highlight dog nod here, just the way you're

803
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,440
just trying to figure out what's going on. You see

804
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,360
that dog, and the dog runs away and he's like,

805
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,800
you fucking cocked. He he's like, oh Jesus Christ.

806
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: It reminds you he's this season's like the whole guy.

807
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,960
I remember the talk show guy that he holes like definitely,

808
00:35:41,039 --> 00:35:43,119
and they pinned it on him, right because he killed

809
00:35:43,199 --> 00:35:46,760
the quotations killed the starlighter person, right.

810
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,559
Speaker 2: So they couldn't speak what do you mean pended on him?

811
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:53,559
Speaker 1: Didn't the dog? Didn't They say that those starlighter humans

812
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,079
like they killed they attacked Kate and they didn't. Yeah,

813
00:35:57,159 --> 00:36:00,559
the dog dog killed him, yes, but like like maybe

814
00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:02,360
he did take them out, but that's not really what happened.

815
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,280
R he didn't take them out because of the attack Kate.

816
00:36:05,519 --> 00:36:07,159
He I guess he's just like clearly a hot a

817
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,119
gun for high or they just give him a fucking

818
00:36:09,519 --> 00:36:11,920
I don't know, a raw high shew bone and he's like, yeah,

819
00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:15,039
I'll do it. So, yeah, that'll be interesting. How much

820
00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:17,400
that character pops. I think small doses for me with

821
00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:20,320
that character. I don't want to get too overwhelming, but uh,

822
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,519
you know, sometimes the Boys goes.

823
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 2: Too much with that. I want to see him interact

824
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,599
with other characters, like between him and then the Deep

825
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:32,800
showing up here doing the initiation, like I want to see, Yeah,

826
00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:35,159
I want to see Doug not interact with all these

827
00:36:35,159 --> 00:36:39,159
other characters. I want to see Homeline or just insulting.

828
00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, or or have like him like pee on

829
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,760
the Deep, you know they yeah, yeah, but yeah, we

830
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,639
got lots of Deep. We got him narrating, we got

831
00:36:48,679 --> 00:36:51,679
he was he's the like the the alpha of a

832
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,280
lot of these school you know, what are they called.

833
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:57,559
Speaker 2: It's like the Gamma Beta ray.

834
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,039
Speaker 1: They have a name, right, what is it? It's a house, yeah,

835
00:37:01,159 --> 00:37:05,480
fred House or not at is a sobriety or sorority, Yeah,

836
00:37:05,679 --> 00:37:07,840
those type of things. And then we also see him

837
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,599
later on making that speech. So uh man, I can't

838
00:37:10,639 --> 00:37:12,800
wait for the Deep to fucking die next year. I

839
00:37:13,159 --> 00:37:16,679
cannot wait to er Yeah no, he right, he helped

840
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:17,960
out a little bit, but then he went back on

841
00:37:18,039 --> 00:37:21,239
Team Homeland or like, I fucking hope he gets destroyed.

842
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,719
But yeah, speaking about polarity, we got Emma, who is

843
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,800
on an interesting kind of predicament, right, now because she's

844
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,800
I feel like, I like that she's still trying to

845
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,960
remain positive, but she had this thing going with Sam,

846
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:36,559
doesn't know well, can't trust him, so she's very much

847
00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:40,360
on the outskirts there. She keeps getting kind of hit

848
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,199
up by all these vaught people to help out because

849
00:37:42,199 --> 00:37:44,639
they're like, hey, even with everything that happened here, you're

850
00:37:44,639 --> 00:37:47,360
still the most like ninth ninth, you're the ninth biggest

851
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,159
following here in the campus. And they're trying to which

852
00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:52,760
again another topical thing. They're like, oh, well, you know,

853
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,880
lots of people won't really buy what we're selling, but

854
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,719
if we get a attractive girl that they all like, like,

855
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,719
their direction, their you know, erections point them to the

856
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,679
democracy and she, you know, I was like, I don't

857
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,920
live any interest in rantanting anyone's erection, which is a

858
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,559
true thing that people use right to get Some people

859
00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:11,199
looks to go up to a certain stance because that

860
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,760
might get their attraction. So it's interesting where there's a

861
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,800
lot of people trying to I feel like, get her

862
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,519
on that side, but there's no even if it's fake

863
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,360
or even internally, which I like, there's no she's not

864
00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:24,760
thinking about it at all she's fully like I'm taking

865
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,320
bought down. That's going. She seems like she's more gung

866
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,639
home than some of them. I like the chemistry she

867
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,320
had with Polarity. I really liked that scene where they

868
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,079
get the files from like the old TV show guy

869
00:38:35,159 --> 00:38:37,280
and she's talking about and when she loved them and

870
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,199
a show was canceled. That was good. And then my favorite,

871
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,000
other than like the main story of like Okay, what's

872
00:38:43,039 --> 00:38:45,760
gonna be the reveal, my main or my favorite story

873
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,960
right now is the human that works in the cafeteria,

874
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:53,119
because I think that's such an interesting dynamic where you

875
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,519
go from okay, humans are the main species, then you

876
00:38:57,559 --> 00:38:59,880
got human the soups together, and then the soups stack

877
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,960
go in like a violent way. And now because she

878
00:39:02,039 --> 00:39:03,599
even says like I need this job, like I got

879
00:39:03,679 --> 00:39:05,840
nothing else. So in this world where it's like she

880
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,760
needs this job to probably pay for rent, food, everything

881
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,760
like that, every day different soups are either bullying or

882
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,920
teasing her or really making like threatening things towards her life.

883
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,599
You have this fucking suit that keeps putting up or

884
00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:21,880
resists like starlight propaganda, and she's not doing that. So

885
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,280
it's just ruining her day and making it super hard.

886
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,280
So in that scene too, when it's like when she

887
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,679
goes to get checked in, the security guy like scans

888
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,679
or and of course he like extra scans or privates.

889
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,360
As of right now, there's nothing she can do because

890
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,880
he's like terrible soups are running the show right again,

891
00:39:37,199 --> 00:39:39,159
more allegories for a lot of stuff that's happening in

892
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,679
today's world. So I really like because at first, when

893
00:39:41,679 --> 00:39:44,840
she's at the cafeteria, I either didn't pick up or

894
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,679
I missed when they revealed she was a human. Obviously

895
00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:49,159
they did later on when she comes to work, she's

896
00:39:49,199 --> 00:39:51,679
the bus, she's the human tag. But I really like

897
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,719
this story of seeing like, Okay, what is someone that

898
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,719
is literally powerless trying to do in this situation where

899
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,360
they're in not with the boys, they're all with her

900
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,880
main characters, yet they're just trying to get by, right,

901
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,599
And honestly, I would not be surprised if her and

902
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,280
Emma become an item. They might just be friendly, but

903
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,199
I feel like they're being a little a little more

904
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,199
chummy than friends. Just my opinion, But yeah, what do

905
00:40:14,199 --> 00:40:16,360
you feel about Emma and this human character that they

906
00:40:18,039 --> 00:40:21,159
they've introduced as far as just getting just the worships

907
00:40:21,199 --> 00:40:21,840
ever right now.

908
00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 2: So I honestly thought they were going to kill the

909
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,039
human character off in this in this episode, I thought I.

910
00:40:27,079 --> 00:40:28,519
Speaker 1: Thought there was a chance. Yeah, I thought it might

911
00:40:28,559 --> 00:40:30,320
just be a one episode type of arc thing.

912
00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:34,039
Speaker 2: But yeah, just because yeah, this is the second time

913
00:40:34,039 --> 00:40:36,119
that Emma's kind of engaged with her and interacted with her,

914
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:41,559
so they could could stem into something, I guess. But she's, yeah,

915
00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:43,280
I don't know, I feel like it'll just come down

916
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,920
to like and that helps her get out of there,

917
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,079
and it's like, oh, I know where you can go

918
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,800
go here and then she'll join the Starlighters or something

919
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,280
like that. I don't know, but yeah, it's just it's

920
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,039
what do you do? Like, and is this this soup

921
00:40:55,159 --> 00:40:58,599
that keeps posting these Resists things up? It's not to

922
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,320
get her in trouble, this human I think it's just

923
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,440
because they genuinely believe and like the Resists and and

924
00:41:04,519 --> 00:41:07,719
all that stuff, and they believe in Starlighters cause so

925
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,079
it was just interesting to see once that that story

926
00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:13,079
kind of like unravels there. That was wild when we

927
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:15,239
get into the Chaine room and just the guys just

928
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:16,000
like I'm.

929
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: Always saying, get more dicks on TV. We got a

930
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,840
lot of dicks on TV. Yeah. And then when guys

931
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,280
like like, he's like, what was he doing with his fingers?

932
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,320
He was fighting them up and she bumps into.

933
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 2: Doing a joint. Yeah, and then he like shoots his

934
00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:33,239
fireball at at her. It just takes her out on Yeah.

935
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,559
Speaker 1: So yeah, and then we learned that there was another

936
00:41:36,679 --> 00:41:39,599
which I will enjoy, which I think they can do.

937
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:41,679
We found because this girl was doing a lot of

938
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,239
social media and she was very preppy and very like,

939
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,840
oh yeah, Kate's the best and fucking starlight and all

940
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,840
this stuff. But then the big reveals her and one

941
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,679
of her other friends are on the inside trying to

942
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,440
you know, help with a kind of uprising and help

943
00:41:56,519 --> 00:41:59,159
turn against the Homelander team and everything like that. Right,

944
00:41:59,199 --> 00:42:02,039
it reminds me and I thought it was gonna be

945
00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:04,960
the case once they revealed Cipher is running with it,

946
00:42:05,079 --> 00:42:08,199
I thought not and maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong. And

947
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,280
that's where here's my two things with Cipher. To me,

948
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,800
either he is I could be wrong, but my two

949
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,039
predictions are he has no powers or then I guess

950
00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:19,079
my third prediction is the Aspowers life. But my second

951
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:23,519
prediction is that he's actually on team Starlighter. And I

952
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,599
what I the vibes I was getting was like an

953
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,840
Order of the Phoenix type of vibe Taylor of there's

954
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,320
a bunch of kids in a school that are fighting

955
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,599
against a big evil, but they don't want to be known,

956
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,920
so and the what better way to cover for these

957
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,440
people working together? Now? Kate is in that class. But

958
00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:41,360
you could argue he's trying to turn her over, right,

959
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,480
He's trying to get her back that side. I could

960
00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:46,039
be completely wrong, right, But it's just even when those

961
00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:48,360
two kids that were very preppy that were actually working

962
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,599
against the Homelander squad, that came up to my mind

963
00:42:51,639 --> 00:42:54,639
of oh, there's a there's other students that are getting

964
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,679
that this is not right, what's happening right now, and

965
00:42:56,679 --> 00:42:59,239
they're going to try and make a play. So and

966
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,960
I wouldn't mind that if that was the big reveal

967
00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:05,639
that the new headman. It's kind of God, what is

968
00:43:06,559 --> 00:43:09,360
I'm trying to think of one? Like? I guess that

969
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,159
was kind of Snape, right. I guess in a sense

970
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,400
that was his role of he got elected and he

971
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,559
did you know a lot more awful things, but that's

972
00:43:15,639 --> 00:43:17,639
the vibe. Do you think there's any possibility there that

973
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,159
he's a I think.

974
00:43:19,039 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 2: That's definitely a realistic possibility that that would be pretty clever.

975
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,000
I would be down for it too. I'd be all

976
00:43:26,119 --> 00:43:29,559
on board for it. So but I mean, we'll have

977
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:31,119
to see how it plays out, because yea, Kate is

978
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:32,719
the kicker. That's the one that you'd have to really

979
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,960
kind of convince because I mean in the first episode,

980
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,440
she's just immediately like what is Odessa, Like, Oh, you

981
00:43:38,519 --> 00:43:40,960
gotta tell Vought, like straight to Vaught, right.

982
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 1: So but again she was still saying, like you should

983
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,079
tell them so they don't hurt you. But she just

984
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,519
doesn't get it yet, right, especially with her powers, Like

985
00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:50,000
obviously right now they're weekend, but I think that's what

986
00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:53,320
they're gonna have to try to. She's so scared of

987
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,199
Vaught using her powers against her when I know it's

988
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,840
a cliche superhero thing, but she just has to realize,

989
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,840
like what if you use your powers against Vaugh? Right,

990
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,239
Because like Kate, I feel like they talk about Marie

991
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:05,719
and I get it because the blood she can take

992
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,280
multiple people, but once Kate can really master those powers.

993
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,519
She's she's truly like a top tier one. She can

994
00:44:12,599 --> 00:44:14,440
just manipulate people by touch. I don't know if you

995
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,480
could do that to someone like Homelander, but still I.

996
00:44:16,519 --> 00:44:18,559
Speaker 2: Think you could do it to Homelander. I think so too,

997
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,480
Like it's anyone that you touch, right, anyone that she touches.

998
00:44:21,519 --> 00:44:23,039
But she's only got the one hand right, which I

999
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:25,599
completely forgot about that because when she was in the

1000
00:44:25,639 --> 00:44:28,119
hospital then I was like, what the fuck happened? And

1001
00:44:28,199 --> 00:44:30,360
she's like, lose a hand from me, smacked in the

1002
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:31,559
bielectrical box or.

1003
00:44:31,679 --> 00:44:33,559
Speaker 1: She keeps ending up there, which I this is what

1004
00:44:33,679 --> 00:44:35,800
I didn't What did you take from the scene when

1005
00:44:36,039 --> 00:44:38,400
she speaks to the nurse and one nurse stabs.

1006
00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: Thing, Oh my god, well what do you mean, like, like,

1007
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,840
was that something she was doing on purpose?

1008
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,559
Speaker 1: Was that something because she could? So that's where for me,

1009
00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:51,440
I'm I like, that goes against my order of the

1010
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,599
Phoenix pitch. Where now just make her full evil, you know,

1011
00:44:54,679 --> 00:44:56,360
because that I didn't all like that scene for if

1012
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,559
we're ever gonna try and redeem this k character, it's like,

1013
00:44:59,199 --> 00:45:01,800
well she he like she led to the murder of

1014
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,400
just some innocent nursrying to help out, you know, didn't.

1015
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:05,840
It didn't make sense to me.

1016
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 2: But I mean everyone had. I mean, look at a train, right,

1017
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,880
a train killed Dewey's girlfriend, and that's.

1018
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 1: Huey by the way from Bacol scream well and scream,

1019
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,400
but that was by accident. The problem was he just

1020
00:45:18,519 --> 00:45:21,559
wasn't uh, he didn't have any empathy for it.

1021
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 2: You know, this could have you know, this could be

1022
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,440
accident too. I mean her doll is cracked and she's

1023
00:45:27,679 --> 00:45:31,559
just like, you know, super pissed off or whatever. And yeah,

1024
00:45:31,639 --> 00:45:33,679
I mean it does go a little bit more heated

1025
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,280
because after she kills those two nurses, the two guards

1026
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,480
and the doctor come in and she kills them too.

1027
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:45,119
Speaker 1: So yeah, uh says let's see, Taylor's Dewey's gonna go

1028
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,239
do it. Let's see. Uh do we think we're done?

1029
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,199
Seeing the seventh season, I'm surprised the cameos were so early.

1030
00:45:54,199 --> 00:45:57,880
I could see one more time, uh, because I just

1031
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,639
think we're gonna get some more down the line. I

1032
00:45:59,639 --> 00:46:01,599
think they're trying to because I don't know what the

1033
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,840
ratings were of this show. Honestly good enough to get

1034
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,960
a season two, right, but I don't know if this

1035
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:09,079
is to pump up this show, where it's also just

1036
00:46:09,159 --> 00:46:12,519
to really set the stage. Keep reminded you about Boy's

1037
00:46:12,599 --> 00:46:14,920
final season, right, But do you think any more cameos

1038
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:15,280
are coming?

1039
00:46:16,199 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, We're three episodes in and we've had I

1040
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,519
think we've had a cameo each episode at this point.

1041
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,320
I mean Starlight episode one, the Deep episode two.

1042
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I can't think of anyone of the three

1043
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,840
three I will say, just so I don't forget about

1044
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,199
the man that soup that has the fucking bee stingertail

1045
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:38,960
that's just like sitting out there like, oh you got

1046
00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:39,559
a dick, come in here.

1047
00:46:39,639 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 2: Ass.

1048
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,079
Speaker 1: At first, I was like, I guess I missed or

1049
00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:45,079
I didn't understand that it was a bee. I picked

1050
00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:47,159
up on it eventually, but the first time when she's like, well,

1051
00:46:47,199 --> 00:46:48,679
be careful, I don't want to sting you because that

1052
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,079
means you and I both die, and I was like,

1053
00:46:50,519 --> 00:46:52,400
that's kind of weird. But then when I put together like, oh,

1054
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:56,639
she's literally like a literal bee, and like literally like

1055
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,960
she stings someone someone, she'll also die. We know that's

1056
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,920
happening for sure this season, Like whether she does it

1057
00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:06,559
or I think someone will do it like, I think

1058
00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:08,760
it's gonna be like an accidental depth. I could even

1059
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,039
see being played for laughs.

1060
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 2: You know, oh, it will all of the above, all

1061
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,519
the above, and whether the Deep took her virginity too

1062
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,559
as she was telling my cage or whatever, which is

1063
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,599
you know, of course the Deep did that. What was

1064
00:47:23,639 --> 00:47:29,119
the other thing with that too? When Ryan? Is that

1065
00:47:29,199 --> 00:47:30,079
his name? Uh?

1066
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: Are you just saying that because Dan was asking about Ryan.

1067
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 2: No, that's Sam, Sam, thank you, thank you. So Sam

1068
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,679
is fighting Jordan and they smashed the wall and they

1069
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,159
land outside and uh but before they land outside, they

1070
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,599
when the room that they smashed. Until you see this

1071
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,639
one guy just you know, just do it like doggy

1072
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,920
stance and you're like, what the fuck's going on? His

1073
00:47:53,039 --> 00:47:54,880
naked and then this other guy's head just comes out

1074
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,360
of his asshole. It's like god, and it's such a

1075
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,719
long scene. And Madison just sat down and she doesn't

1076
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,800
already justsn't like the boys, but she just sat down.

1077
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:06,280
Scene popped up. It's like, oh, for foxs sakes, they

1078
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,760
just they love to focus on these scenes.

1079
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:13,159
Speaker 1: My god. Yeah, just when you like you hear him

1080
00:48:13,199 --> 00:48:15,400
from inside the guy like what's going on? Like a

1081
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,559
couple of people like crash through your door, you know,

1082
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,559
so then he pops out. Of course, so uh says,

1083
00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:23,639
do we think the future of the show's Ryanton and

1084
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,039
got you in future seasons? I think the I think

1085
00:48:27,079 --> 00:48:29,320
it's all up in the air. And that's why to me,

1086
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,599
I honestly could see, like I said, the cameos could

1087
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:34,880
be just to spruce up the boys. I could see

1088
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,599
a world where the gen V ratings are lower and

1089
00:48:37,679 --> 00:48:39,039
they think, hey, this is still good enough to do

1090
00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:41,400
a second season, but let's see if we can get

1091
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,280
it up with some cameos and tie it in and

1092
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,199
we'll see. Because I really I don't know what's gonna

1093
00:48:46,199 --> 00:48:48,519
happen with the show. Obviously it's Amazon and they have

1094
00:48:48,679 --> 00:48:50,960
a botload of money. But at the same time, like

1095
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,639
they still cancel shows, right, so I don't know what

1096
00:48:53,679 --> 00:48:54,960
I have to look and maybe I'll look into that

1097
00:48:55,039 --> 00:48:57,159
once even this week, once the ratings come out. But

1098
00:48:57,639 --> 00:49:00,400
so even if there's gonna be future seasons, we don't

1099
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:07,480
even know. I could see that. But at the same time, like,

1100
00:49:07,559 --> 00:49:09,760
I guess you're assuming Ryan because well, I guess he

1101
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,719
could be an asshole and go there, right, I guess

1102
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,840
it's like just what happens with the Ryan character. Because

1103
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,000
it was season four, I think we talked about that

1104
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:18,039
that was kind of some maybe mixed writing as well,

1105
00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:20,000
where it felt like kind of every two episodes, like

1106
00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:23,679
Ryan was turning against Homelander, and then he was with Homelander,

1107
00:49:23,679 --> 00:49:25,079
and then he was turning against him, and it was

1108
00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:26,920
back and forth. And I get it, it's a kid,

1109
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,280
but there still has to be a thrillance. So I

1110
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,159
could see though a version when even if Homelander dies,

1111
00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:35,039
his son does attend the school and you gotta and

1112
00:49:35,159 --> 00:49:37,119
I feel like you kind of almost like a cursed

1113
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,360
child sort of thing, you kind of have like how Malfoy.

1114
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,039
I mean, I had never read the book, but I

1115
00:49:42,119 --> 00:49:45,360
think what Malfoy's son is kind of like not well

1116
00:49:45,559 --> 00:49:48,880
liked at school? Yeah, but he's not well liked yeah,

1117
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,880
So the same way of like imagine once day defeed

1118
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,079
Homelander and he's the bad guy. You go to school

1119
00:49:54,679 --> 00:49:57,400
and the homelanders your dad. That's the piece of shit, right,

1120
00:49:57,519 --> 00:49:59,199
So I think there's lots of potential there. Do you

1121
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:03,400
think if you continue or Jen Wah fuck every apphabet

1122
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,480
but V Do you think if gen v continues together.

1123
00:50:05,519 --> 00:50:06,960
Could we get more or could we get Ryan in

1124
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:07,199
the here?

1125
00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:10,159
Speaker 2: We absolutely could, but I don't think we'll get that far.

1126
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,599
I think once, uh, I think this is gonna converge

1127
00:50:14,639 --> 00:50:17,760
into the final season of the Boys, and because you

1128
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,559
can't keep going back to this this university, You just can't.

1129
00:50:21,679 --> 00:50:24,519
It's unless a new set of characters, right like the

1130
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,000
I guess, but I honestly think you do a first

1131
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:30,800
order thing where after after the events of the finale

1132
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,239
of The Boys, I think, and the Boys win, I

1133
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,400
think it's just gonna come down to, hey, we're gonna

1134
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,679
close down this university because it's all super fucked up.

1135
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,800
I mean, let's not forget they are doing weird scientific experiments.

1136
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:45,679
There's a Nazi museum down below, which I mean, shit,

1137
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,360
if I'm in real life, God forbid, if I ever

1138
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,360
walk into, like find the secret room and it's just

1139
00:50:50,519 --> 00:50:53,519
like Nazi propaganda. You got the uniforms, the big like

1140
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,119
memorial for not like the swastika. That just makes me

1141
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:03,920
feel uncomfortable still in that situation. But yeah, so clearly

1142
00:51:04,039 --> 00:51:08,000
like the guy who created the university is a Nazi,

1143
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:10,960
which we already know when we look at Stormfront has

1144
00:51:11,199 --> 00:51:14,760
major ties to it. Yeah, so are we to assume

1145
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,800
that cipher Is is Nazi and Odessa is part of

1146
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,840
some kind of Nazi thing that they're working on.

1147
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,199
Speaker 1: Well, because though like Marie said, she's like like, like

1148
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,159
she talked about the Nazis and what they like, she's like,

1149
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,280
you know, like young black girl, I wouldn't be the

1150
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,199
poster child for them, right, So that's why she was

1151
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,559
even confused, like why would why would they want me?

1152
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,719
I feel like that would be like a defect of

1153
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,800
they're looking for a blonde, white skinned, blue eyes, you know. So,

1154
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:43,880
and this I agree with Bike where says I can

1155
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,320
see gen V acting as an epilog to the boys.

1156
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,840
I agree with that. I could see it also being

1157
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,800
like the first Order tailor where they recreate a school

1158
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:52,840
and it's like, oh, this is gonna be in the

1159
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,400
good image, But then there's some students that are still

1160
00:51:56,519 --> 00:51:58,920
filling the homeland their way or the way things used

1161
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,559
to be and want to things up right. So I

1162
00:52:01,639 --> 00:52:04,360
could see them going with that or even like fucking

1163
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,840
what are they? Are they blood eaters or what are

1164
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,480
they in Harry Potter before Baltimore gets back death Eaters? Right,

1165
00:52:09,559 --> 00:52:12,320
there's a contingent of them around until Valdemore gets back

1166
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,039
and takes over. Right, So I could see a season

1167
00:52:14,119 --> 00:52:16,639
of gen V dealing with that as well, where there's

1168
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,239
you took out Homelander, but there's still people that believe

1169
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:19,760
in his vision.

1170
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 2: Right.

1171
00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, suber Mike says, we got Homelander in

1172
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:24,960
the finale season one, so I'm sure they're saving some

1173
00:52:25,039 --> 00:52:27,800
cameos for season two finale. I agree, And I actually

1174
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,000
think Homelander will be back again. What do you think?

1175
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, I think so.

1176
00:52:33,079 --> 00:52:35,199
Speaker 1: They talked about him a lot, even this episode or

1177
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,840
when the episodes kid, it's like, oh, well, let's call

1178
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,840
him Homelander, and I love Glary is such a good actress. Yeah,

1179
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,360
let's do it. And he's like ah, but then he

1180
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:46,400
lays up the whole situation and I can't remember what

1181
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,119
character comes to them, and she's I think it is case.

1182
00:52:50,159 --> 00:52:52,599
She's like, I gotta report something. I got something truthful

1183
00:52:52,599 --> 00:52:54,039
to Vault, He's like, good, I want to hear it.

1184
00:52:54,199 --> 00:52:56,960
Vault loves the truth. I love He's just like such

1185
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,440
a condescending piece of shit because he just he keeps

1186
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,400
spinning it every way because he's like, yeah, vot does

1187
00:53:02,519 --> 00:53:04,519
love the truth, but do you love the truth because

1188
00:53:04,599 --> 00:53:07,159
the same thing he said, like if Homelander finds out

1189
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,719
one about the squad and two you no longer have

1190
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,719
your superpowers, you might be damage goods and you might

1191
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,320
just be gone. Right. So I do think they're talking

1192
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,320
about him a lot, and everything Um says chat. We're

1193
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,119
still getting Vaught rising and apparently The Boy's next, which

1194
00:53:21,199 --> 00:53:23,400
I don't know. We're gonna have more spinoffs than Dexter.

1195
00:53:23,559 --> 00:53:27,360
And that's the thing where also right now Bezos the

1196
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,719
TV company. I don't think anything's changing with Amazon right

1197
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,800
but even today that came out. We'll talk about on

1198
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,800
the future news. But Clive Philps said that's why like

1199
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,320
Original sing got canceled, and he pretty much buried that

1200
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,960
the Trinity Show's not happening anymore because he said they're

1201
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:41,360
gonna do a bunch of spinoffs, and then the new

1202
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,079
ownership came in said yeah, let's get rid of that.

1203
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:45,760
I'm not saying that. I just mean, like people have

1204
00:53:46,079 --> 00:53:47,920
I know people have joked about it, but even you know,

1205
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,480
we were talking about the discord they might look at

1206
00:53:50,559 --> 00:53:52,880
certain things in this show and the certain owners of

1207
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,559
Amazon might not like the route it's going politically and say, hey,

1208
00:53:56,679 --> 00:53:58,800
knock that shit off. Vaut Rising. I think that's different

1209
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,840
because it's in the past and the Mexico we have

1210
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,239
no idea what that might be about. Where with this

1211
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,480
obviously a very political show that's very much on I'd

1212
00:54:06,519 --> 00:54:08,880
say on one side, it's a show that doesn't really

1213
00:54:09,079 --> 00:54:11,400
like it's not like Self Parked that's satiring both sides.

1214
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,360
If like, you clearly see what side of the spectrum

1215
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,400
they're on, so some people they might want to go

1216
00:54:15,559 --> 00:54:18,679
that route. I so to me, I think gen v,

1217
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,280
if if this season ends, and all I hope is

1218
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,880
if it ends, it ends clearly for all our characters.

1219
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,559
You know, I don't want there to be a cliffhanger

1220
00:54:27,079 --> 00:54:29,119
unless it is like we're for sure doing season three.

1221
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,920
But to me, I think season three is the It

1222
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,960
would be the cap. I don't see it getting passed

1223
00:54:35,159 --> 00:54:36,880
any longer that. But I would also be surprised if

1224
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,760
this was it. You know so and then finally, good

1225
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,639
thing I brought this up on this is a character

1226
00:54:41,679 --> 00:54:43,519
we haven't talked about, not too much to say, but

1227
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,840
says are the puppets supposed to be funny? I'm so

1228
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,760
done with this gag some of two minds. I was

1229
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,639
surprised how early it came back because obviously this was

1230
00:54:54,639 --> 00:54:57,199
a big plot point last year where when he was

1231
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,639
doing violence, he'd sea puppets when he was having sex

1232
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,840
with him and he saw puppets, So like, they use

1233
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,800
this multiple times, and I was fine with it going

1234
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,800
away and then coming back. I was just surprised these

1235
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,800
first three episodes already came back. I think they're trying

1236
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,559
to start his redemption arc. I don't want this. I

1237
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,840
was very worried he was gonna sleep with Jordan because

1238
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,199
when they are current up in hotel room, I was like, ah,

1239
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,840
don't do this, Like one, because like I'm brooding for

1240
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,039
Marie and Jordan, but also like I don't want a

1241
00:55:26,159 --> 00:55:29,920
storyline where that because Jordan she said I love you,

1242
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,039
so Jordan freaked down fuck someone else, and then it's

1243
00:55:32,039 --> 00:55:34,079
a whole season trying to get back together and figure

1244
00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:35,840
it out. It's like, I don't want that in the

1245
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,039
midst of everything. Just make them together. So my hope

1246
00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:40,639
is him tell them telling Marie that they love her

1247
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:42,840
was the end of It's just they are good friends.

1248
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,840
That's my hope. And they were friends with his brother obviously,

1249
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,320
but yeah, because Kate has lost her powers, he's starting

1250
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,639
to break and crack, and he's seeing the Puppets again.

1251
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,559
The violent streaks are happening again, and he's getting fights

1252
00:55:54,559 --> 00:55:57,679
with people. I don't mind it because I'm on a

1253
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,800
side where like, I fucking love Puppets Today. Obviously, Disney's

1254
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,119
announced on some bad stuff today, but when they say, hey,

1255
00:56:04,199 --> 00:56:06,760
we're doing the Muppets special, like, I'll be there. So

1256
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,039
I like Puppets. There's a chey first film I would

1257
00:56:09,079 --> 00:56:12,280
love to make with puppets. Puppets are fucking expensive, so

1258
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:13,800
that's why I looked at I was like, ah, this

1259
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,719
is gonna have to wait. But one day, even before

1260
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,239
if we ever saw him making the movies, I want

1261
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,400
to I'll spend my own money on there. So I

1262
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,360
liked it. And again I think the Sam storylines moving

1263
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,440
a little fast, but I guess I'll wait and see

1264
00:56:27,519 --> 00:56:29,039
the rest of the season how it plays out. I

1265
00:56:29,119 --> 00:56:32,079
just wasn't expecting by episode three he might really be

1266
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,719
or be close to getting back on our side. But yeah,

1267
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,199
what do you think about the Puppets and Sam and

1268
00:56:36,599 --> 00:56:39,039
him breaking? At first he was on shows he seemed

1269
00:56:39,039 --> 00:56:41,320
like a cool guy, but now he's, uh, he's not

1270
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:41,800
making it.

1271
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,599
Speaker 2: The puppets cracked me up. I fucking love it. And

1272
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,199
so when when his girlfriend dumps him and you know,

1273
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,360
he's just the sandwich turns no puppet and it's just

1274
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,119
talking shit to home. I love that he picks the

1275
00:56:52,159 --> 00:56:54,599
puppet up and it's still just like you're a fucking

1276
00:56:54,679 --> 00:56:57,079
piece of shit. And he throws in the garbage cat

1277
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,000
and the garbage is like, you're a fucking it's talking shit.

1278
00:57:01,079 --> 00:57:03,519
I love that. And then he's like losing his mind

1279
00:57:03,519 --> 00:57:06,360
because now like the sun is just like, oh, you

1280
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,639
know John F. Kenny Jr. Was assassinated, you know five

1281
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,960
G causes cancer and all these different things like just

1282
00:57:13,039 --> 00:57:15,119
read it off, all the conspiracies and stuff like that,

1283
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:19,159
just which is a curveball, but I really like, I love.

1284
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,239
Speaker 1: Was an inside job. One was just that got me good.

1285
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,039
So which is so funny because it shows that I

1286
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:27,440
felt like we didn't get that a lot last season.

1287
00:57:27,519 --> 00:57:29,880
It would go into his violent tendencies, but the fact

1288
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,079
that they're literally like it's like pumping out these conspiracy

1289
00:57:33,199 --> 00:57:35,920
theories he hasn't had. That's uh, that was something new

1290
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,119
to me, but maybe that's because I didn't rewatch as well.

1291
00:57:38,159 --> 00:57:42,400
Maybe that's something that was constantly happening. So yeah, uh,

1292
00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:44,440
let me take a look and see if there's anything.

1293
00:57:44,519 --> 00:57:47,079
Oh I really liked at one point when uh uh

1294
00:57:47,239 --> 00:57:50,239
Marie had her meeting with Cipher and he's like talking

1295
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:51,920
her up about what he wants. He's like, oh, you're

1296
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,360
really you know girl interrupted Angelina Jolie, and I need

1297
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,320
you to be salt Angeline Angelina Jolie and he she

1298
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,480
tells us the Jordan. He's like, yeah, he's he wants

1299
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,840
me to like salt Angelina Julie and he's like a

1300
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,400
cliche and a cliche spy and a mediocre movie. Wasn't

1301
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,480
anything that big. I just liked the line. It was

1302
00:58:08,599 --> 00:58:10,400
just like a funny instance.

1303
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 2: Oh you reminded me. There's another line too with the

1304
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,679
remember saying like I just want to you know, right

1305
00:58:16,719 --> 00:58:19,199
out in the open, like Taylor Sheridan. I appreciate that,

1306
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:23,440
and catch that that episode.

1307
00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:26,079
Speaker 1: I catch they dropped the word adrenochrome in this one,

1308
00:58:26,119 --> 00:58:27,480
which is which is so funny.

1309
00:58:27,519 --> 00:58:29,159
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't mean that. I meant the other one,

1310
00:58:29,199 --> 00:58:30,280
but go ahead.

1311
00:58:30,159 --> 00:58:32,119
Speaker 1: Oh yeah you didn't. Because when they're because that's the

1312
00:58:32,159 --> 00:58:33,920
whole thing now right there, trying to make it seem

1313
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,440
like starlighters are like uh pdf files, you know, like

1314
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,360
they're all like doing all this stuff. So like, yeah,

1315
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,039
you like this, you like uh, you know, you're probably

1316
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:45,760
coursing of adrenochrome. Obviously if you've seen our movie or

1317
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:50,880
haven't our film doesn't never mind, I can't even say that.

1318
00:58:51,639 --> 00:58:53,360
I don't even say it with some stuff. It's not

1319
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:58,000
exactly it's not completely into the worldwide conspiracy stuff, but

1320
00:58:58,119 --> 00:59:00,480
it plays on some of the aspects. By Yeah, so

1321
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,599
did you not catch him drop the word adrennachrome?

1322
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 2: I missed that. I was talking about the Jacob A

1323
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,519
Lordy thing and the yeah salt Burner too, what was

1324
00:59:07,559 --> 00:59:09,239
it like, salt burnt.

1325
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, salt burn He's like he's so good, a visionaire

1326
00:59:11,719 --> 00:59:14,800
and everything like that. Why because Jaga Lordie is like

1327
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,920
he's one of the biggest fat rising stars. You know,

1328
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,840
watch Worthing Heights. That's gonna be big that I might

1329
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,079
be James Bond. So in this in this household, I

1330
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,960
stand Jacob lord He could be fucking I can't be Batman.

1331
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,679
He's he's too young, but he was my pick for Superman,

1332
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,320
but I guess the rumors that he turned down even auditioning.

1333
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,039
He didn't you want auditions, So yeah, ifday Sheridon doesn't

1334
00:59:34,039 --> 00:59:35,519
need to write a room, neither do I.

1335
00:59:36,199 --> 00:59:38,079
Speaker 2: That's that was a good line there.

1336
00:59:38,199 --> 00:59:40,679
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, I look through all the characters. I

1337
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,119
think we talked about most of them and all my

1338
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,239
notes of anything else we hit.

1339
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:47,159
Speaker 2: No, that's everything.

1340
00:59:47,519 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, like I said, we'll be back next week

1341
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,280
and we'll see even this we uh, you know, we

1342
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,519
only did now or so, like I said, if if

1343
00:59:53,559 --> 00:59:56,400
you listen, you're there, we'll keep going on. There's only

1344
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,920
five weeks left, so and if you're really enjoying the views,

1345
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,880
let us know. And yeah, we'll be back next week

1346
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,480
and I promise you and will not be boring