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Speaker 2: This is Big Fight Weekend. Now here is your host, TJ. Leaves.

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All right, we get ready for a weekend.

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Speaker 3: He's Factor Bonte Davis headlining a pay per view in Brooklyn,

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New York, prefending his lightweight title against regional rival Lamont Roach.

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We are ready to discuss that and the other two

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In the preview mode, we also have an interesting speaking

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of the junior welterweight division, we have an interesting Suprio

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Mattias return in Puerto Rico, and much more, some.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about that and a lot more here

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on the Big Fight Weekend Preview.

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Speaker 2: I am the somewhat capable host, TJ. Reeves.

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Speaker 2: Love his insight.

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Do you prefer eggs over easy scrambled omelets? What do

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Speaker 1: I don't like eggs very much. Once in a blue moon,

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once in a blue moon, like maybe like an egg

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm a big over easy guy, not a

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much an omelets. But Ben and you Bank decided to

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Speaker 1: He was thanking his excellency for putting it on the show.

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Speaker 3: Connor ben Is that was on the receiving end of that.

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Let me explain this that we had not really previewed

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the Junto Nakatani title defense because we quite did know

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the Knakatani fight would have been over on Monday morning,

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Monday night in Japan, Monday morning in the United States.

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Speaker 2: We're ready to talk about it now before we get into.

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Speaker 3: Previewing, the Davis Roach PBC on Prime main event. So

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Nakatani did ko David Quaar, the Mexican opponent to retain

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the WBC bhantamway title. I did see this, you know,

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not a ton of action until boom late in the

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third round of this fight. All right, give us more

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on what you saw and what it means for the

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future for Knakatani off of Monday.

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Speaker 1: Well, kna Katani just key's rolling along. I mean he's

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running like a you know, a bull in a China

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shop through the bantamweight division. Now that in Away has

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moved up from bandamweight and vacated the undisputed title and

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is now reigning as young disputed champ and one hundred

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and twenty two pound division, Nakatani has now taken over.

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How he hasn't unified titles yet, but he's been looking

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very dominating in his in his victories. He defended the

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title the WBC bell for the third time against David Kuahar,

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who is you know, a young Mexican fighter who had

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never fought in a twelve rounder, who had never fought

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outside of Mexico so far, but looked like he had

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some you know, some power and a good idea of

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what he was doing had some size. He was, as

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na Katani mentioned after the fight, he was the tallest

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opponent he had fought as abandoned weight about five eight

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and a half, which is just a little bit bigger

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than Nakatani. And for the first two plus rounds, I mean,

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he was losing the fight, but it wasn't like he

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was out of his depths, let's say. But as soon

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as Nakatani started to put it on him and lay

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on some nice shots, you know, he went down to

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the canvas and when he got back up, Knakatani like

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immediately blasted him with some really good strong left hands,

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left hands and kna Katani is an excellent puncher, so

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he put him away in three rounds. He was winning

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the fight, but without a lot of stuff happening, and

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landed some shots and put him on the ropes, and

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shots on him after that, and that's what caused his

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looked a little bit discombobulated, like I said, somebody may

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got Clobberdon was sort of completely out of sorts and

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had no idea what hit him. But nonetheless, na Katani

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gets the victory, and it's an important victory because now

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you know he's looking forward to a probable unification fight

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with the IBF champion. So in the ring after the fight,

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you had Arroya Suki Nishida, who is not a well

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known fighter in the Way class, but as a new

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a new title holder, let's say, you know, he's only

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ring together. It's pretty clear what they're going to do

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is try to set that up when na Katani probably

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and it'll given them opportunity to unify belts. And the

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interesting thing about the Way class is that all four

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of the title holders in the bandamweight division are from Japan,

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good interest in their country. I mean more so, let's say,

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than if it was a fighter from somewhere else. So

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we'll see if he can get two belts, you know,

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perhaps following anyways footsteps and put together all four belts.

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Easier said than done. All I know is this Nakatani

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is now thirty to zero with twenty three knockouts, and

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if you're doing a pound for pound list, I think

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it's quite reasonable to have him somewhere in the bottom

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top you know, bottom of the top ten.

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Speaker 3: All right, also on this card, and I saw a

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little of this fight the Japanese bantamweight Tenshin Nashikawa, who's

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a former kickboxer, was finding Jason Maloney, the former WBO

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bantamweight champ, and Nashikawa ends up getting the decision.

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Speaker 2: Tell me more about that as well.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's only six and oh now after that victory,

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but he is a very popular figure in Japan from

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his kickboxing gaze. It's why he was in the co

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feature instead of the other title fight, which we'll talk

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about a minute. You know, he looked good. This was

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a distinct step up from the opponents that he had

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been facing in Maloney. Maloney was coming off of losing

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his bandamweight title in a tough fight, but still a

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credible fighter, still a good contender in the weight class,

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and this was an absolute step up in a test

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against a real guy. I mean, say what you want,

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maybe Maloney is not a powerful, pown guy, but he's

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been in with a lot of talented fighters and he's

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no joke. I mean, his brother Andrew's been a good

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fighter for a long time. Also, he had fought Nakatani

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and been knocked out, But so there's a dinercer in

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fighting Nakatani in a world chamionship fight, then fighting a

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the match. So anyway, he won the unimous unanimous decision.

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got a good test. Maloney did have a moment in

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the fight where he staggered uh nasakaw had him in

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a little bit of trouble, which he admitted afterwards that

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he had never been in that position before. But he

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got through it and you know, he moves on now again.

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probably for his next fight. It looks like that when

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maybe two fights from now. But when Nasa Kawa comes back,

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they were positioning him to fight a bandam weight title

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fight against the WBO title er, which is a Yoshiki

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the fight. So there's a lot of bandam weight action

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going on in Japan as the bottom line.

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Speaker 3: All right, So one more thing from the card again.

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Seya Sasumi, who ends up being in a dramatic fight

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against Higa. And tell me more about that battle as well.

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I mean this was an action fight as well in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this was a really good fight. I mean the

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Nakatani fight was not much a fight. The Nasakwa fight

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was a good fight, but not going to be in

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any conversations for the fight of the year. But Satsumi

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against Higa two was a really good fight. This was

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Sasumi the you know, they ended up in a draw,

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but he defended his WBA bandam whit title. It was

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all the three main fights were bandam white fights. They

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had fought, you know, a few years ago in a

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non title fight. This was in twenty twenty, before either

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of them were champions. Uh Hega went you know, he

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regular ten rounder at the Corkuen Hall where they have

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boxing matches all the time in Tokyo. And it was

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Sasumi who was taken on Higa, who assume he was

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undefeated at the time, he had already had you know,

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three losses. I had I think had a loss at

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the time. Point though, is that they fought to it

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on that fight also a majority draw. Here they come

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back and now it's a world title fight for a

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go figure. Now, the way that this turned out to

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be a draw is because Assumi was behind, and he

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three score cards to pull out to draw. Sow cours

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mind not one fourteen, one fourteen on all three cards.

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but in the end they all came up with six apiece.

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four and all three score cards after the eighth round,

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so he was able to preserve his title by having

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that big comeback in the last part of the fight. Now,

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nine was you know, I mean, I know we're only

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in the beginning of the year. It was still in February,

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but I do believe that there's a good chance that

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this will probably stand up as at least a candidate

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among the conversations anyway of round of the year. Just

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eye because of a head butt that took place in

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the fourth round and that was pretty bad. But in

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title fight was worth it. The Nasa Kawa against Mologne

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Speaker 3: And nobody went to sleep in the fight that you're

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on several things. So shout out to them on the

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call of that Japanese card. As we gave it a

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little recap here to begin the preview podcast, because that

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all came on Monday. All right, So we'll get into

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that in a few minutes. Let's get to it. They

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had the final press conference earlier today. Weigh in coming

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on Friday, as we do this Thursday night into Friday.

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Gervonte Davis is back with Lamont Roach. This took a

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while longer. This was supposed to have been a December fight.

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so we had to wait all the way till March. First,

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it is now fight weekend in Brooklyn. What are your thoughts,

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Dan Well?

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Speaker 1: At number one, there's gonna be a big crowd there

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no doubt about it. I mean, Tank Davis sells, He's

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gonna have another sellout. It's probably gonna be the biggest

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gate in the history of the Barclay Center for boxing.

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and it's not just in the home region. It's not

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just that he sold out in Baltimore or he sold

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out in Washington, DC, where he has sold out in

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both locations. He has sold out in Los Angeles, he

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has sold out in Las Vegas, he has sold out

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in London, out in Atlanta. I mean, people love to

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see Tank Davis. He has something about him that the

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fans gravitate to. Whether it's just his his personality, it's

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his obviously his punching power. You know, the kind of

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way he looks, whether it's the tattoos or you know,

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he does have like the smile, whatever it is, people

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like to watch Tank Davis fight. And he's going in

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with a with a quality opponent in Lamont Roach. I

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know a lot of people have complained that it's not

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a big name. It's not chakor it's not Loma, it's

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not Tia Fimo or somebody on that level. But Lamont Roach.

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Like Tank Davis, who had formerly been a title holder

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in the junior lightweight division, Lamont Roach currently is a

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title holder in the junior lightweight division. He's moving up

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to take on this fight. They are regional rivals, as

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you mentioned. One is from Washington, Lamont is from Baltimore.

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I mean Lamont is from Washington and Tank is from Baltimore.

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But both have popularity in Washington, d C. And they

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fought two times as the the amateur ranks. Tank got

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two close wins over him. Nobody really disputes that they

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know each other. They've been around each other. They definitely

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respect each other. If you notice there hasn't been any

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wild trash talk. You know, they may have had their say,

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but it's been respectful because they know each other. Matter

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of fact, it was Lamont Roach Senior, who has been

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his son's trainer throughout his career, who has also worked

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with amateurs and was Tanks one of Tank's coaches when

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he won a national Golden Glove. So the teams know

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each other, and it's gonna match. It's gonna come down

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to this, it's and this is the way this rompis

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pretty much most of the Tank fights Ken Lamont Roach

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avoid the massive bomb for twelve rounds. Most guys haven't

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been able to do that. The one advantage that I

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give to Roach is just from a pure boxing point

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of view, from a pure skills point of view, he's

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probably and I won't even see probably. I would say

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he's definitely the best pure boxer that Tank will have

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ever faced. And I say that with the caveat being

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that when Tank fought Yur york Is Gimbo, who is

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a brilliant boxer, but a wild man, you know, an

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Olympic gold medals, an electrifying fighter, he was way past

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his prime. Yes, Lamar Roach is in his prime. And

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so I believe that Lamana is by far the best

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pure boxer that Tank will ever fought. And Lamar Roach

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has never been knocked down as a professional ori as

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an amateur. And so the question is can he take

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what Tank is going to dish out? And here's the

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thing about Tank also, he doesn't throw a lot of punches.

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He's actually throws very very few punches. But he's very

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economical because he lands. If you look at like compy box,

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he lands among the highest percentage of any you know,

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top fighter in the sports, certainly among the champions. So

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when he throws, you know, he generally you know, around

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a little less than half the time he's gonna connect,

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and so it's up the roach. Can he get out

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of the way for twelve rounds? That's hard to do.

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So I could certainly envision a fight where Tank is uh,

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maybe not doing great, maybe even losing like we've seen

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in the past, but eventually he finds, you know, the

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boom goes the dynamite.

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Speaker 3: Yes, two examples of that is the Roly Romero Ko

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in this building splatt him. And the other one I

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keep thinking of is that uppercut on Leo Santa Cruz,

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which Santa Cruz was having success, was in the kitchen

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and was having some success punching and counter punching until

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as you just said, Boom goes to dynamite with one

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of the knockouts.

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Speaker 2: Listening of his career.

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Speaker 1: In June, in Tank's last fight last June, Tank was

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only up one point on all three cards against Frank Martin,

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and that was a real fight. They were being, you know,

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locked in a very competitive battle, and once again comes

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the eighth round and Tanks ends up scoring an absolutely

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spectacular knockout that makes everybody's lists, you know, of their

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top knockouts of the ear. So that's that's sort of

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the intrigue here is is how how does how does

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Lamont survive twelve rounds? And if he does so, will

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it be able to outbox a much more economical puncher.

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Lamont probably will throw more shots than Tank Davis, but

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he'll be taking a gamble because every time you throw

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a punch, you'll leave yourself open to some degree. And

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so I do again, I'm not saying it's a superstar

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fight like it would have been with some of their names,

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but I've always said from the first time this fight

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was mentioned in me that while it may not be

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what we desire most for a Tank opponent, I do

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view this as, you know, a serious fight. He's not

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fighting a shlub Well. Matt Roach is a talented boxer,

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no doubt about it.

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by the way, we segue again to the bet US

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you're hearing us on all their platforms will handicap this fight.

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Rayfiel and now will make some predictions on this So

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on the immediate undercard and the co feature, and in

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the fight right before that, they're both junior welterweight title bouts,

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with Jose Valezuela meeting Gary Anjuan Russell for the WBA

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Junior welterweight title and Albert Poo returns to fight Sander

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Martin for the WBC Junior welterweight title. So intrigue right

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before the Davis fight and the junior welterweight division, and

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we can't we don't have to think too far ahead

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that the winners are probably fighting, and the winners may

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be a candidate to fight who Javonte Davis somewhere down

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the road maybe who knows, But ahead, start with Valenzuela

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and Gary Antoine Russell and we go from that.

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Speaker 1: I do think what you're saying is accurate that the

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guys who were fighting on this undercard, in terms of

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those other junior welterweight fights, they're basically auditioning to be

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a future Tank opponent, and that's smart from the perspective

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of the PBC people that put these events together. Vellan

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Zuela would probably be the biggest one because he's got

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the best name. I guess. But if it was Gary

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Antoin Russell, it's another Washington d C versus Baltimore kind

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of regional fight because Gary Antoine is is a Washington

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d C fighter. Obviously, he is the brother of the

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former featherweight titlder Gary Russell Junior, who was his trainer. Obviously,

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they were both trained by their father, Gary Russell Senior,

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who passed away not that long ago. That was a

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you know, a big big deal in the in the

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DC area for such a respected member of the boxing

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community and Gary Singer. But anyway, Velanzuela, this is a

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big opportunity for him. It's a big opportunity for Gary

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Antoine Valezuela in I would consider like a mild upset,

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not a massive upset, but an upset. Had moved up

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from lightweight in August and he defeated Isaac Pittbull Cruise

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on the big Riat card in Los Angeles that Terrence

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Crawford Image AMV headline, and he won the WBA title

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over Pittbull Cruise in a split decision, in a good

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performance to get this belt. So he's making his first

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defense and he's not taking on you know, a very

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soft touch or anything like we see a lot of

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guys do when they come out for their first defense. Now,

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Gary Antoine Russell is super talented, undefeated seventeen year ol

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all by knockout was the United States Olympian but like

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his brother, maddenly maddeningly inactive, yes, and coming off of

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his first loss, which was a split decision that was

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in June against Albert Opeyo. They were fighting for the

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interim WBC title and of course, when Payo won that

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belt in that fight, it was soon after that Devin

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Haney gave up that title and made himself in a

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recess champion. So when that happened, Albert Opoyo was elevated

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and inherited the Devon Handy mandatory which is sandorm So

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that's why that fight is happening. But Vealezuela and Uh

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and Gary Antoine is an interesting matchup. See if Gary

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Antoine can bounce back from his first loss. He's got

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big punching power obviously comes from a boxing family, smart

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Olympian valans weel though he's you know, looked good his

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last couple of fights with Robert Garcine now as his

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head trainer. Starting with the pit bull fight, So a

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lot of intrigue in this particular matchup, probably the best

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fight of the undercard.

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Speaker 3: I'm just looking back that Gary Antoine Russell fought in August.

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Speaker 2: Of twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Who know, fight yep fought in June of twenty twenty four, who.

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Speaker 1: Know fight s three fights in three years, So he.

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Speaker 3: Fights in three years. I don't know what we're getting

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here on Saturday Night.

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Speaker 1: And valan Zuela has been more active obviously.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: And then and then as for Poyo, he is again

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on the pay per view immediately before that with Sander Martin,

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the veteran, So go ahead into the break.

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Speaker 1: Weeo had had the WBA belt previously, but remember he

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had a positive drug tast he got stripped to the title,

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you know, before he was supposed to have a fight

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and he was booted off show. He's you know, that

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was you know, an unfortunate situation obviously, but he has

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he has not lost in terms of in the ring.

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And you know, I think that the santor Martin playoff fight,

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they're both good fighters, and they're both were the top

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ten type guys in their division. And find it's for

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a title, but from an entertainment die, I hope I

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am dead wrong about this, But you know, I've never

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gotten the impression, frankly, that either one of them make

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particularly entertaining fights. Certainly Santor Martin. You know, he's all about,

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you know, driving you crazy and making you miss and

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and running around and just trying to outslick you and

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this and that. I mean, we saw how frustrated he

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made t Fimo Lopez in a decision loss that was close,

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that t Femo was so messed up from that fight

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mentally that it's the only time I can ever think

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of where the guy that won the fight, that didn't

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have an injury, did not come to the press conference

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because even though he won the fight, that was the

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fight where he was questioning himself in the ring. Sander

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He's a He's a maddening fighter to fight. It has

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been very effective, what can I tell you? I mean,

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hopefully they turn into better performance and I think, in

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my mind is going to be the one thing Sander

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Martin you can't take away from him, though he's got

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you know, some people thought he'd beat t FMO that night.

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He certainly had a legit victory against Mikey Garcia back

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in twenty twenty one, cent Mikey into retirement. You know.

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So he's definitely a talented boxer. It's how much talented

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boxing can I take, you know, in one fight, because

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he does not make good fights unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we'll see on that.

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Speaker 3: Two world title fights at one and just before that,

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Joanna's telez Or Tayez and Julian j Rock Williams will

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fight for the vacant WBA Interim Junior middleweight title. Here

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we go again with the WBA and all the secondary titles.

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But anyway, Tayas is somebody that I saw last October.

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There's high hopes for him. Jay Rock has been around,

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has taken some recent losses. He is a former world champion.

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Anything real quick on.

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Speaker 1: That, Well, it's a great matchup in terms of like

472
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you want to see the crossroads kind of fight. This

473
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is what that is. TAAs to me is one of

474
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the best problem pick some boxing. I've had him on

475
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my prospect list the last couple of years. He's twenty

476
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four years old. He's a Cuban fighter, but he does

477
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not fight in the prototypical Cuban style, which is a

478
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lot of touch and move. He is a much more

479
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offensive minded fighter. He did not have a lot. He

480
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fought in the Cuban amateur system, but he didn't have

481
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years and years and hundreds and hundreds of fights to

482
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become totally indoctrinated into that style of fighting, and with

483
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a trainer like Ronnie Shields, who was an offensive minded

484
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trainer who I have a tremendous amount of respect for

485
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I have known for the better part of twenty five years.

486
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When Ronnie tells me he's the real deal, and I

487
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watch him with my own eyes, I believe what Ronnie says.

488
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Taees got a bright future. But this is I'm not

489
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saying he hasn't fought real guys so far, because he's

490
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actually has stepped up and fought legit guys, which is

491
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one of the reasons made him such an interesting prospect.

492
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He's only nine to oh, but he's already got wins.

493
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By a knockout against Sergio Garcia was like a second

494
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tier level kind of contender. He has a nice win

495
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in a knockout that took place in his last fight

496
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in October, where he knocked out Johann Gonzalez. That was

497
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a big win. Johann Anzas actually is also on the

498
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same undercard on one of the free prelims against the

499
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former champion, Jared Hurd. But Tayas has taken a step

500
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up against Jay Rock Williams, who you know, granted, is

501
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not what he once was and is not maybe showing

502
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the greatest chin when he's been in a firefight. Haven't

503
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been stopped in three of his four losses. But remember

504
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also that when he lost the previous loss he suffered

505
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in twenty twenty three, he got stopped by Carlos Sadamis.

506
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That was at midleweight, and he's now back at Jinger

507
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midaway where his other losses were a split decision to

508
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Latimer Hernandez that was kind of like, you know, I

509
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just don't think his mind was in that fight, and

510
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Hernandez has pulled upset. So the other loss he had

511
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was a knockout against Jason Rosario when Jason Rosario was

512
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not completely shot and is a tremendous puncher. That was

513
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the situation with that. So now he's taken on a

514
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guy like Tayaz has a big step up for Taz.

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Whatever you think about Jay Rock Williams, so I hope

516
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they produce some fireworks. I'll sell you this though. The

517
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more fireworks they produce, the probably worse off it is

518
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for Jay Rock Williams. But this has the potential, I

519
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think to be a pretty interesting fight and I'm a

520
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huge TAAs guy, so I'm looking forward to it.

521
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Speaker 3: Jay Rock basically fights one way, stand right in front

522
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of you and slug and it can be to his

523
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own detriment, as we know, as you just laid out.

524
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All right, so we laid out the full pay per view.

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Let's talk a little more now about how you can

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see it, and let's do that right now as the

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preview does continue.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he is back, and we have another.

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Speaker 3: PBC on Prime pay per view to get to and

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this one interesting, especially with the rivalry. I don't know

531
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how he did between Jervonte Davis and Lamont Roach. They

532
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say they get along, but they're gonna be throwing fists.

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They're gonna be throwing patted fists at each other coming

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Saturday night on pay per view.

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Speaker 2: And Mark Bocarti is back with.

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Speaker 3: Us from PPV dot com to talk to us more

537
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about that. Good to be back with you are we

538
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allowed to break news on the podcast with Rayphil and

539
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me that you have been transcontinental since last you and

540
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I talked? Are we allowed to break news and discuss

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this on.

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Speaker 4: The h I wouldn't want to break the news. I wouldn't.

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I wouldn't want to break the news while I was gone,

544
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just in case anyone wanted to on the inside of

545
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my house. But now that I'm.

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Speaker 3: Back right well, like all these big time athletes to

547
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keep getting their stuff broken into and stole them, we

548
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can't let them know that in advance, I totally get it.

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Got wait am I am? I to understand Italiah? You

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what you have been to Italy and back and you

551
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are here and uh did you get anything to eat

552
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or anything to drink and see anything good over in Italy?

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Speaker 4: Also, not only did I get something to eat, I

554
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had an exceptional meal TJ. As everyone who's been to

555
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Italy knows, at every meal that we went to it was.

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It was pretty incredible. And to cap off a great

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ten day trip, I came back on the day of

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Better we Have Beeble in time and was able to

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watch and enjoy that fight on pp dot.

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Speaker 3: Com no doubt, and we were promoting that last week,

561
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did you agree that Beevil won the rematch?

562
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Speaker 2: Did you agree with that?

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Speaker 4: I did?

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I had him as a narrow winner, So I

566
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don't think you can argue that decision.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, you had something for everybody to

568
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heavyweights where we had knockouts, you had Shakur Stevenson on that.

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Speaker 2: You had a lot on that one. For sure.

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Speaker 4: That's one of those cards that lives up to the

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hype and no doubt. Starting at what ten thirty am

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Eastern time, you know you.

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Speaker 3: Need, we kept we kept joking Bacon and eggs and

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the British light heavyweights or Virgil Ortiz, take your pick,

575
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all across the United States. But this is the great thing.

576
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Let's bring it back to this. This is the great thing

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about PPV dot com. You buy what you want as

578
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a one off, no long term subscription needed. And the

579
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same applies here for the Jervonte Davis Lamont Roach showdown

580
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Saturday night at the Berkleys Center. We want them to

581
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purchase this through PPV dot com because this is gonna

582
00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:44,359
be an entertaining fight and there's no long term obligation

583
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:45,039
pick it up on that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, indeed, we are excited to carry this event.

585
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You're right, you buy this event, no subscription. That's the

586
00:26:52,599 --> 00:26:55,240
key thing for us. We have some bells and whistles

587
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I know that we'll get into in a second. That

588
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,720
always make it them, in our opinion, a more fun

589
00:26:59,799 --> 00:27:03,480
view experience than any other platform. But yeah, this is

590
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going to be a really fun fight. You mentioned the

591
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long history these guys have between them. I'll ask you

592
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this is there as big an underdog as you've seen recently,

593
00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:15,519
who's been as confident as he is? Yeah, mon roach right.

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The guy acts like he belongs.

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Speaker 3: He well, and as he has said, he believes that

596
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he got the better of Jervonte Davis in their amateur

597
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,200
days and he has been trying angling for this moment

598
00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:30,480
for several years and finally now has gotten in front

599
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of him as we come to the Barclays Center on

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Saturday night. Now, as we both know, with this sport,

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everybody's confident until they ding the bell, and then what

602
00:27:39,519 --> 00:27:43,240
happens after that, especially if Davis catches him, that's the intrigue.

603
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Speaker 2: That's what we're about to find out, right.

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Speaker 4: So some of these parallels you could bring back to

605
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Davis's last fight at Barkley's when he KOed Roley Romero, right,

606
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and Roley's got a mouth and he wasn't give it

607
00:27:56,079 --> 00:27:58,160
much of a chance going in, and he was, you know,

608
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,079
he was talking a big game. But Dravante is just

609
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,839
he's so crafty, right, He's got that killer instinct. He's

610
00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:07,519
one of boxing biggest stars, which is great when you're

611
00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:12,160
trying to, you know, sell the sport. So gonna be

612
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,759
a good night in a big event on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Rollie had a big mouth and Dravonte shut it

614
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with one big left hand.

615
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Speaker 2: As it turns out.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned, you guys do a fantastic job, and I

617
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love this whenever we get a chance to interact with

618
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the team that you have the fan interaction that is

619
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available through PPV dot com with Jim Lampley, with Lance

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Pugmar and our guys Dan Canobio and Chris al Jury.

621
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They all do a great job with the content. But

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the interactive part of that while the fights are going on,

623
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I see that I sometimes even participate myself, believe it

624
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or not, and join in what they're discussing as the

625
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fights go on.

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Speaker 2: That's another feature as part of what you're offering.

627
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Speaker 4: Seved it right, Yeah, And I don't know if it's

628
00:28:53,799 --> 00:28:57,920
my appearance on your podcast, DJ, but every event that

629
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we've done over the last you know, twelve months, the

630
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amount of interaction we have on the chat keeps increasing

631
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event to event to event. So with this last event,

632
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,720
even the BiVO Betterbev, we didn't have as many buys

633
00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:13,599
as we do for a fight that starts in primetime

634
00:29:13,599 --> 00:29:15,759
on a Saturday night, but the amount of chat we

635
00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:18,920
had was just incredible. So I think it's really caught

636
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up now where people are buying on PPV dot com

637
00:29:22,039 --> 00:29:23,920
just to be able to participate in that, and it's

638
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it's showing in some really fun results with the interaction.

639
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Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, all right, so one more time it is

640
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,920
the Battle of Baltimore and Washington.

641
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Speaker 2: D C.

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Speaker 3: Gravonte Davis, by the way, says I'm gonna fight three

643
00:29:35,319 --> 00:29:38,559
times in twenty twenty five, all right, from his from

644
00:29:38,599 --> 00:29:43,079
his lips to our viewing and an interest pleasure here

645
00:29:43,079 --> 00:29:45,279
that we're gonna get this more than a couple of

646
00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:50,480
times because activity has been a big thing throughout the sport,

647
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,839
lack of activity.

648
00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:54,799
Speaker 2: So's with Davis, right, Yes.

649
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 4: It's been nine months since he lasts correct what fourteen

650
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,119
months I think between that fight so correct. Yeah, I'll

651
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,759
believe it when I see it. In terms of three

652
00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:07,359
fights in a year, I hope for it. You know,

653
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,240
we would love to help him be successful with three

654
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fights in a year, but with the recent track record,

655
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you know, I wouldn't bet on it, but I would

656
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:17,680
hope for it.

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned, stay tuned on that.

658
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Speaker 3: And the one thing about him again one more time,

659
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is it doesn't matter if he has been in Las

660
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Vegas where he's fought, or he's fought in Atlanta. He

661
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,000
has fought in Texas, he has fought at the Berkeley Centers,

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the Berkeley Center before. He brings a crowd in an

663
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,680
electric atmosphere, and they're going to get to experience all

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of this in four K or ten eighty I on

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PPV dot Com with the Tank Roach pay per view

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main event coming up.

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Speaker 4: Davis fights are always a spectacle, whether you're in person,

668
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,640
whether you're watching it on PPV dot com, They're always

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a spectacle. Like I said, he's one of boxing's biggest stars.

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We love carrying his events. So it's going to be

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a fun night and I encourage everyone to tune in

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on PPV dot Com for it, no.

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Speaker 3: Doubt, and in a couple of undercard World Championship fights

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at one forty one division up. And it doesn't take

675
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,880
a genius to figure this out. For Jose Valezuela and

676
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,000
Albert Pueo, the champions, they could be fighting each other.

677
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,720
They do kind of plan these things out and size

678
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,920
it up. So a big night of boxing coming Saturday.

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We want them to get in on PPV dot com.

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No long term commitment needed, Participate for the interactive part

681
00:31:24,319 --> 00:31:26,359
of this throughout the night. There's a lot of reasons,

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and then and then settle in for the main event

683
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one more time, right, Mark, great.

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Speaker 4: Night of fights, watch it on PPV dot com. Simple

685
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as that, TJ.

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Speaker 2: We love that. Mark.

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Speaker 3: Good luck with everything with this. We will be with

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00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,599
you down the road. We encourage people once more, if

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you are doing this, if you're purchasing the PBC on

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Prime pay per view, do it with PPB dot com.

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Speaker 2: Mark, Thank you child DJ again we.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate their sponsorship. Can't emphasize enough, Dan Rayfield that you

693
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do not need the long term subscription with any other

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streaming package. Just buy what you want with PPV dot com.

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And I should also add they have wrestling pay per views,

696
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they do concert events, other things on PPV dot com.

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Speaker 2: Same deal.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to have any kind of a long

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term six month, one year subscription by what you want

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with PPV dot com. So we appreciate the sponsorship that

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they have with us here on the big fight, we

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can preview.

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Speaker 2: And podcast series. All right, but wait, there's more.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of the junior welterweight division subrio, Mattias, former world

705
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champ at one point forty, is back. He's fighting in

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Puerto Rico. It's on De Zone as well on Saturday night.

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Gabriel Valenzuela. Another Valenzuela preview. This a little more for

708
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:40,599
us here.

709
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the main event on It's the Solida

710
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,720
Promotions card along with Fresh Promotions in Puerto Rico, which

711
00:32:47,759 --> 00:32:49,839
is where Mattias is from. It will actually be his

712
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,160
third consecutive fight in Puerto Rico. If you remember back

713
00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:55,839
last summer in June, he lost the world title in

714
00:32:55,839 --> 00:32:58,079
an upset to Liam Paro that was taking place in

715
00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:00,759
his hometown that was considered a major upside. He lost

716
00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:02,599
the decision. It was a competitive fight, but he clearly

717
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,200
was the looser. He came back in November against a

718
00:33:06,279 --> 00:33:09,039
lesser type opponent, scored a secon round knockout victory, and

719
00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:11,599
now he goes into this fight, which is an IBF eliminator.

720
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,960
So if he wins this fight, it puts him in

721
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,240
position in the mandatory to challenge the title holder, which

722
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:20,519
is Richardson Hitchins, who beat Liam Paro for the belt

723
00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:22,960
that Paro had taken off of Mattias. So it's an

724
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,400
important fight for both of these guys. Balnzuela big underdog

725
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,079
for obvious reasons, got a good record, but doesn't really

726
00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:33,039
have much to look at in his record by all.

727
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,519
You know, look, this should be if Mattias has got anything,

728
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:38,160
and we know what a great puncher is, this should

729
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,759
be an easy fight for him. Like, I don't have

730
00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:41,640
high hopes for this at all. He's got a loss

731
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,359
to Montana Love, who turned out to not be much

732
00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:47,400
of anything. He does have a win by split decision,

733
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,079
so that tells you what sort of close against Stevie Spark,

734
00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:52,319
who has been in with some good fighters. But this

735
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,319
is largely you know, I haven't looked at the odds,

736
00:33:56,559 --> 00:33:58,440
but this is a wide fight, like whatever you want

737
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,160
to say about it, and you know, Bunswell is going

738
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,440
to Puerto Rico as the Mexican fighter to fight in

739
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,680
Mattias's home area. You know, he's obviously the quote unquote

740
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,199
opponent in this fight. He's got three losses, been stopped

741
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,280
just a one time. We'll see what happens, but I

742
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,239
have every expectation that if if Mattias is even close

743
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,880
to his game, that we're looking at a knockout victory

744
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,719
in favor of Sabrillo Mattias, and he'll go on, presumably

745
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,400
to challenge for the world title or a fight for

746
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,480
a vacant teller or something like that, but he will

747
00:34:26,519 --> 00:34:28,280
be in that position to try to win back the

748
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,880
belt that he used to have. He's a very exciting fighter.

749
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,320
Matias winn or lose. You know, he's you never know.

750
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,840
He can throw one punch and knock a guy out.

751
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,760
That's the kind of pounching power. Yes, I mean he's

752
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:39,639
he's got the two losses, but in his twenty wins,

753
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:40,800
he's got twenty one knockdowns.

754
00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 3: True, and you would hope because he was so awful

755
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,360
and tentative against Paro. We still to this second have

756
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,280
never figured out why that was in his hometown maybe

757
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,719
it was a hometown related thing.

758
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: I don't know.

759
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 3: With that, we'll see how Mattias looks. All right, some

760
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,599
news and some nostalgia, all right. You keep saying that

761
00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:02,320
you've been doing this now twenty five years. This is

762
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,239
a quarter of a century. You ever been involved with

763
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,679
a press conference with one guy smacking the other guy

764
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,679
with a raw egg like we've had now with Chris

765
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,599
Eubank Junior and Connor Benn. That happened at their news

766
00:35:16,639 --> 00:35:18,679
conference on Wednesday?

767
00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 2: What about egg? Egg on the face? Egg on the face?

768
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,079
Speaker 1: Literally it was on Tuesday. Wednesday was Wednesday was the

769
00:35:26,119 --> 00:35:28,760
off day where they did some promotional stuff, commercial shoots

770
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,119
and things like that. Then they did the second press

771
00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:33,920
corrents in London on Thursday. The first one was in Manchester.

772
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,199
And to answer the question is no, I've never seen

773
00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:38,079
anybody use an egg and a press cards. I've seen

774
00:35:38,119 --> 00:35:42,400
guys spit things, throw things, throw chairs, throw tables, throw punches,

775
00:35:42,679 --> 00:35:46,159
you know, do all kinds of wacky shit, throw other people.

776
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 3: Who was the you did say that point? Who was

777
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,679
it recently? That through the belt? Was that last week

778
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:51,320
or two weeks ago?

779
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: That was David Morel throwing through the belt.

780
00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 3: At David Bevenavita through his belt at David Benavidaz.

781
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: I listened. I was at a press corments once where

782
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,800
Bernard Hopkins and William Joppy were throwing chairs, Derek Tysaa

783
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,719
turning over a table, Derek Tasaura spitting the water, and

784
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,159
vitally Clitch goes face.

785
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: Uh.

786
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen plenty of all the scuffles. We

787
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,559
remember what happened with Canelo Alvarez and Caleb Plant. I mean,

788
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,239
I mean, there's been any kind of number of physical

789
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,440
confrontations and or throwing of objects at press covers. But

790
00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:25,760
an egg was not only was it an egg that

791
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,719
he that he smacked in Connor Ben's face, but he

792
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,599
had to have obviously premeditated because he had a clumb

793
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:34,599
to the arena with a pocket full of eggs, so

794
00:36:34,639 --> 00:36:35,559
he could be ready to pull.

795
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,039
Speaker 2: Is it confirmed that he had more than one egg?

796
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: I saw a picture It looked like he had a pocket.

797
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 3: Multiple multiple eggs, and he smashed one on the side

798
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,559
of Connor Ben's face, which I mean obviously and you

799
00:36:49,559 --> 00:36:51,960
you pointed this out before we hit the record button.

800
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,960
This could have been a serious thing. If an eggshell,

801
00:36:55,159 --> 00:36:58,719
shark or something scratches the eye of Connor Ben while

802
00:36:58,719 --> 00:36:59,280
you're doing this.

803
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: It's not even just that. And when Eddie Hearn gave

804
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,639
his comments to the Zone folks that were doing the show,

805
00:37:06,119 --> 00:37:08,360
he said it sounded like glass breaking because so he

806
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,400
wasn't even sure was it actually saw the evidence of it.

807
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,320
But the thing about it is not just maybe you

808
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,079
get a shard in your eye and it has a

809
00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:17,840
damaging impact because of that, but because it's you're kind

810
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,519
of taken by surprise, you know, you take a wrong step,

811
00:37:20,559 --> 00:37:22,440
you hurt your ankle, you hurt your knee, you blow

812
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,400
out your acl you do something whatever, or you end

813
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,920
up in a scuffle. I mean, there could have definitely

814
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,559
been an injury. I mean I just mentioned at Kayla

815
00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:31,360
Plant and Canelo, how lucky were they that when even

816
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,480
though the Canelo you know, opened a cut on Kayla

817
00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:36,800
Plant that it didn't impact the fight.

818
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,639
Speaker 3: It could it easily, Yeah, because he's smacked him back

819
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,360
and smashed his sunglasses and it cut him under the cheek,

820
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,960
not over the eye. If he cuts him over the eye,

821
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,079
the fights maybe delayed.

822
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: That's the point. So yeah, putting hands on people at

823
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,360
press conferences, I do not advocate that. I do not

824
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,079
support that. I think it's childish. It doesn't make sense.

825
00:37:54,119 --> 00:37:56,840
You risk your money, you risk the event. You want

826
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,519
to call each other dirty names, you want to talk

827
00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:01,280
about their mama, whatever. You know, have your set, but

828
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,599
keep your fucking hands to yourself. I have a you know,

829
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,440
I have a small I have a you know. My

830
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,039
son is like a kid. We taught him, don't keep

831
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:11,280
your hands to yourself. I mean, right, and the other

832
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,480
kids in his class in sixth grade. Keep your hands

833
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:13,960
to yourself.

834
00:38:14,119 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 3: Do not put your hands on somebody else, much less

835
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:21,039
get a breakfast Entrey and try to do something with

836
00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:22,079
a breakfast town tray.

837
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: Obviously, the reason he chose an egg is not lost

838
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,960
on anybody who follows what's been happening, and they spoke

839
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,280
about it at the second day a press conference on Thursday.

840
00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:33,679
He picked an egg because of the fact that Connor

841
00:38:33,679 --> 00:38:36,679
Ben when he failed the drug test that made their

842
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,360
fight in two thousand and two and a half years

843
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,840
ago get canceled. He claimed it was contamination from having

844
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,559
an abundance of eggs in his diet. I mean, whatever

845
00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:50,360
you want to say. So that was the reason for right,

846
00:38:50,519 --> 00:38:52,840
but it was very childish, but other than that, it's

847
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,039
going to be a mega fight in the UK for sure.

848
00:38:56,039 --> 00:38:58,400
They were talking about how they're holding this at the

849
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,440
Hotspur Stadium, Yes, sixty five thousand people or something like that,

850
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,199
where Tyson Fury has fought, where Anthony Joshua has fought.

851
00:39:07,039 --> 00:39:11,400
That they had to get those tickets. A queue of

852
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,440
one hundred and thirty thousand people apparently trying to get

853
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,360
tickets for a fight that won't even be able to

854
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,039
accommodate about half of them, right, So that tells you

855
00:39:19,079 --> 00:39:21,840
how big this fight is. And it's amazing because it's

856
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,039
not a world title fight. It's just a good old

857
00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:27,239
fashioned all British grudge match to the backdrop of their

858
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,519
famous fathers who put on two of the most boxing

859
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:33,800
matches thirty some years ago that are still revered in

860
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,920
British boxing lore. Now. Nigel Ben has been present at

861
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,079
both press conferences. Chris U Bank Junior, I'm sorry, Chris

862
00:39:41,159 --> 00:39:44,280
you Bank Senior was not at the first press conference.

863
00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:46,320
I had read that he was supposed to be at

864
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,239
the second press cards, but I watched the second press

865
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,639
conference and I didn't see any evidence that he was

866
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,599
in the house. So I'm not sure what's going on

867
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:55,039
with that, but Nigel was there and Nigel by the way,

868
00:39:55,039 --> 00:39:57,679
when they got into the scrum, Nigel grabbed christ You

869
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,480
Bank around the Christian Bank junior around the neck during

870
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,599
the during the scuffle, I mean it's going over and

871
00:40:02,679 --> 00:40:03,000
you all.

872
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 3: Got thirty We got thirty year bad blood with the

873
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:05,800
Bens and the U Banks.

874
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: You also got Eddie Hearn who was the promoter for

875
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,400
Ben and Ben Shalom who is the promoter for U Bank,

876
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,199
who can't stand each other. They were almost into a

877
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,159
scuffle at the fight at the press coverge. So it's

878
00:40:15,159 --> 00:40:15,760
all chaotic.

879
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: And again this is two years delayed because of the

880
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,519
drug test. Two and a half years delayed because the

881
00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:22,480
positive drug test for Connor Ben. He's got nobody to

882
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,199
blame but himself on that.

883
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: So that we got the times blame the Eggs.

884
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: We got what we.

885
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,199
Speaker 3: Got more time to hype it up because that's an

886
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:35,079
April battle coming at at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, all right.

887
00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:39,599
So that's that's that sad news. Read this earlier in

888
00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:42,679
the week on on two Fronts. Former three time world

889
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,840
champ Greg Hogan, who we just talked about in the

890
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,719
record breaking night of Julio Cesar, Chavez and Hogen fighting

891
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,599
in Mexico City in front of what did you tell me,

892
00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:53,639
like one hundred.

893
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 2: And thirty two thousand, was it?

894
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 1: Or one hundred one hundred, two hundred and forty seven He.

895
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,559
Speaker 3: Coold Lord Techas Stadium and Greg Hogan unfortunately has been

896
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,159
recently battling cancer and passed away at the age of

897
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,119
sixty four. Say a little more because we said some stuff,

898
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,039
you know, about a week and a half ago on

899
00:41:11,039 --> 00:41:12,679
the pod when that anniversary came up.

900
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,559
Speaker 1: But mister, I mean he was a scrappy fighter. He was.

901
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,719
He fought a lot of top guys, Like you said,

902
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,480
he won titles three times, was never really able to

903
00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:21,320
hang on to them for any length of time, but

904
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:24,320
on certain nights he had big, big nights. I mean,

905
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,159
he's not a Hall of Fame kind of fighter, but

906
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,119
he was for a long time one of the top

907
00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:32,880
contenders and title holders between lightweight and junior welterweight. He

908
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,840
finished with a record of thirty nine wins and losses

909
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,519
and one draw nineteen knockouts. His career ran from nineteen

910
00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:42,239
eighty two to nineteen ninety nine, so really span virtually

911
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,199
the entirety of the eighties and nineties and found himself

912
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,320
in some major fights. Now, he's most remembered Hoggin for

913
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,039
fighting the fight that we talked about where the anniversary

914
00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:52,559
was on February twenty at nineteen ninety three, where he

915
00:41:52,639 --> 00:41:55,960
was the challenger when Julio Sesar Chavez was at his

916
00:41:56,119 --> 00:41:59,360
peak as a as a reigning champion of the WBC

917
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,360
holding the one or forty pound title, and they drew,

918
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:04,039
like you said, to one hundred thirty two thoty seven

919
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,800
to s Techastadium, which is the biggest paid attendance in

920
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,599
the history of boxing, and he got his ass kick

921
00:42:09,679 --> 00:42:12,519
for five lopsided rounds. He got beat up. Now the

922
00:42:12,559 --> 00:42:14,199
famous thing that came from that, and we talked about

923
00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:16,320
this when we were discussing the anniversary back a couple

924
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,039
episodes ago, which was when he was asked because remember

925
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:21,840
when Chavez fought him, Chavis was eighty four and zero,

926
00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:24,480
and he was asked by some of the media like,

927
00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:26,480
aren't you intimidated by their record? What do you think

928
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,840
about that great record? You know, those types of questions,

929
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,719
and his response was that all Chavis had done was

930
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,800
fight a bunch of Tijuana cab drivers, and so to

931
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,679
show you the good humor that Hagan had after that

932
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,920
was when he got his ass kicked and got knocked out.

933
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,360
He was asked, well, what do you think about that now,

934
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:45,199
and he said, you know, I think with like a

935
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,679
glint in his eye, so to speak. Those cab drivers

936
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,800
were tough. So he understood what it was. But the

937
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,159
thing about it is he shouldn't just be remembered for

938
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,320
getting beat up by Chavas and that big fight and

939
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,800
playing the villain role perfectly. You know, he did score

940
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,039
wins where he won titles. He beat Jimmy Paul for

941
00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:03,199
the IBF lightweight title in nineteen eighty six. It was

942
00:43:03,199 --> 00:43:05,559
a close fight in majority decision, but he lost it

943
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:08,519
in his first defense against Vinni pazi Ends who has

944
00:43:08,519 --> 00:43:09,840
recently been elected to the Hall of Fame.

945
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,679
Speaker 3: I remember watching that fight an afternoon fight on NBC

946
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,559
with Marv Albert and the fight doctor Ferdy Pacheco. I

947
00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:20,000
remember watching that fight Pazzi and Za and Hoggin.

948
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: He lost that fight that was eighty seven, but the

949
00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:26,239
he regained the belt in their immediate rematch in nineteen

950
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,000
eighty eight, and then later on they fought a third

951
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:34,119
fight that Vinnie Paz also won, but he lost the title,

952
00:43:34,159 --> 00:43:36,639
and you really can't blame this. After he'd regained it

953
00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:39,599
from Vinny Pass. He fought Pearnel Whittaker in nineteen eighty

954
00:43:39,639 --> 00:43:41,119
nine and lost the belt to Pearl. Whitiker is one

955
00:43:41,159 --> 00:43:43,000
of the greatest lightweights in the history of boxing. You

956
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,159
could argue in the top three lightweights of all time.

957
00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:48,760
And then then a few years later after that he

958
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,400
moved up to one hundred and forty pounds. Now, at

959
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,079
the time, this is nineteen ninety, the WBO was still fledgling.

960
00:43:54,679 --> 00:43:57,559
Virtually nobody considered it to be a legitimate title. I'm sorry,

961
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,159
I'm not doing revision his history. It was considered a

962
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,760
fringe title. Nobody really cared much about it. The network's

963
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,679
barely even mentioned it a lot of times when those

964
00:44:05,679 --> 00:44:09,079
belts were on the line. But he did win that belt,

965
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,800
and it was more than just about that's who he

966
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,480
beat to get it. He beat the then thirty eight

967
00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:17,920
and oh undefeated Hector Camacho, hall of famer, and he

968
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,679
took that fight in a split decision and then ultimately

969
00:44:21,679 --> 00:44:23,679
lost it three months later in the rematch. But to

970
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,800
win and be the first man to knock off Hector

971
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,039
Camacho is still quite an impressive accomplishment. And then his

972
00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:32,800
last big fight, so to speak, was you had the

973
00:44:33,199 --> 00:44:35,519
great you know, the Hall of Famer Ray Boomba Mansini

974
00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:37,880
who had been retired for three years, a former long

975
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,239
time lightweight champion. He had come out of retirement to

976
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,840
fight Greg Hougan and Hagan beat him up and stopped

977
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,440
him in the seventh round and send him back into

978
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,119
permanent retirement. But those are the big names and the

979
00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:51,320
fights that he had, and that spanned a number of

980
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,360
years throughout that time period, so he was on the

981
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,239
networks on a regular basis. And you know, I think

982
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,079
viewed by most people in the business as just a

983
00:44:58,159 --> 00:45:01,199
real scrappy you know, will fight anybody. You know, tough

984
00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:05,280
as nails, good boxer, not a big puncher, but you know,

985
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,559
got his moment in the sun on more than one occasion.

986
00:45:08,679 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 3: Rest in peace to him, And a quick shout out

987
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,119
too to the not only New York but national broadcaster

988
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:18,079
Al Troutwig, who died on Monday from cancer at age

989
00:45:18,119 --> 00:45:20,079
sixty eight, just a couple of days shy of his

990
00:45:20,119 --> 00:45:23,840
sixty ninth birthday, and I was texting with you, not

991
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,840
only about Hougen, But I said to you, what about

992
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,679
Al Troutwig? And you said what And Al Troutwig had

993
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,400
also died on Monday, Troutwig and you shared this with me.

994
00:45:32,679 --> 00:45:35,000
I had to go back and relive it just for

995
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:38,119
a few minutes on YouTube. Troutwig very famously on the

996
00:45:38,119 --> 00:45:43,360
call on ABC of which fight involving the real deal.

997
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: One of the great fights of Evander Holyfields career. He

998
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,440
called the first fight between Evander and Dwight Muhammed Kahwei,

999
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,320
who's they're both in the Hall of Fame. That was

1000
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,920
a classic fifteen round battle, one of the last great

1001
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,480
fifteen rounders, where Evander won the what was called the

1002
00:45:56,639 --> 00:46:00,519
WBA Junior Heavyweight title, really the cruiserweight title. A brilliant

1003
00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:02,559
fight and a Troutwick was on the call. I knew

1004
00:46:02,599 --> 00:46:05,039
Trouig for all the years, you know, growing up in

1005
00:46:05,079 --> 00:46:06,920
the nineties basically, and when I was I was an

1006
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,400
adult at that point, but in the eighties as a

1007
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,800
big Yankee fan and watched a ton of MSG Network

1008
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,239
and I was I'm a Nicks fan in the eight

1009
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,239
yet FI and he was doing all those events. Not

1010
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,039
to mention if you watch him on a national stage

1011
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,000
doing tons of Olympics and all kinds of other assignments.

1012
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,639
But you know, I knew him from the New York

1013
00:46:21,679 --> 00:46:23,840
Sports team, but also you know a little bit of

1014
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,440
his time doing some boxing matches as.

1015
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 3: Well, and Al was like a member of the family

1016
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,159
doing the Knicks, the Rangers, the Yankees, pregame and post game.

1017
00:46:31,559 --> 00:46:33,639
Speaker 2: One more boxing nugget, Ray Peel.

1018
00:46:34,199 --> 00:46:38,039
Speaker 3: On the very first series The Contender on NBC, Al

1019
00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:41,039
Troutwick is on the call of the live fight that

1020
00:46:41,079 --> 00:46:44,199
our buddy, the Latin Snake, Sergio Moro won when he

1021
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,159
won the million dollar Contender fight. Al Troutwick's on the

1022
00:46:47,199 --> 00:46:50,119
play by play call of that live night on NBC.

1023
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: So I can't say. I can't say if you're wrong,

1024
00:46:53,039 --> 00:46:54,079
because I just don't remember that.

1025
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:55,679
Speaker 2: I'm telling you he was.

1026
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,199
Speaker 3: I've watched it before and they and I want to say,

1027
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,159
they had like eight or ten million people watching live

1028
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,519
kapper of The Contender with the Latin State, But that

1029
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:07,880
was Al Troutwick on the call. Now some twenty years

1030
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,880
ago of that. He had a long relationship with NBC

1031
00:47:11,039 --> 00:47:13,159
doing the Olympics, as you mentioned, so rest in peace

1032
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:14,119
to him as well.

1033
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:16,039
Speaker 2: One more news item.

1034
00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 3: This has been talked about, and now it is announced

1035
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,800
and set up. Tim Zu is returning after that October

1036
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:28,239
KO loss to Martaz Elajev in the title fight in Orlando.

1037
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,239
He will be back as part of a PBC on

1038
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,440
Prime Video event in April. So Dan tell us more

1039
00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:37,920
about Zoo on the comeback trail.

1040
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: Well, he's on the comeback trail. Like you said, he

1041
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,880
lost two fights in a row and so he's not

1042
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,639
fighting King Kong. He lost the bloody split decision that

1043
00:47:44,679 --> 00:47:47,360
we all remember in the first ever PBC on Prime

1044
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,280
pay per view when he lost the title to the

1045
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,079
late replacement Sebastian Fandora, who moved up the car to

1046
00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:54,239
the main event when Keith Thurman fell out and he

1047
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,559
got badly cut and Fondora suffare of badly broken nose

1048
00:47:57,599 --> 00:47:59,880
and they bled for twelve rounds. He lost the title.

1049
00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:02,199
And then when he came back in October for the

1050
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,440
first ever non pay per view of the fights that

1051
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,239
are done with PBC and Prime, he got the shitkicked

1052
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,039
out of him in three rounds by Martaz Leev. I

1053
00:48:10,039 --> 00:48:12,280
mean that was a big upset. He got dropped three

1054
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,119
times in the second round and get knocked down again

1055
00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:18,320
and knocked out in the third round. It was a bad,

1056
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,000
bad night at the office for Tim Zuo. And so

1057
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,239
he's going back to Australia kind of like tail between

1058
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,000
his legs. I suppose he doesn't have that mentality, but

1059
00:48:26,039 --> 00:48:28,239
I think, you know, his promoters are looking to you know,

1060
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,639
rebuild them to some degree, and so they're taking on,

1061
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,599
in my opinion, the less than threatening Joey Spencer. You know,

1062
00:48:34,599 --> 00:48:36,480
it was nineteen to one with eleven knockouts, but it has

1063
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,760
never really shown a whole lot. I mean, he got

1064
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,440
so much hype from PBC unnecessarily they put him on

1065
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,760
a lot of their network shows. He you know, he

1066
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,760
never fought anybody all that good when he stepped up

1067
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,119
the one time he got beat But he'll go I'll try,

1068
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,440
That's all you can ask. And so the fight will

1069
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,480
take place. It will be Prime Time in America on

1070
00:48:55,559 --> 00:48:58,360
April fifth, which is a Saturday night, and he'll be

1071
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,199
on irregular Prime you know, as part of the regular subscription,

1072
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,199
not part of a pay per view, and in in

1073
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,159
Australia it'll be Sunday afternoon on the sixth and it's

1074
00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:10,679
part of the pay per view that will take place

1075
00:49:10,679 --> 00:49:13,159
in Australia, but looks this a must win fight for

1076
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,480
Zoo is one thing. If you lose to Fandora on

1077
00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:18,400
a freakish type of thing on a short notice replacement,

1078
00:49:19,039 --> 00:49:21,480
to get run over like a guy like Martazeleev, who's

1079
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,599
shown himself to be, you know, a lot better than

1080
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:26,159
some people thought. He was a very physical fighter with

1081
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,119
good power. That's another matter. If you lose against Joey Spencer,

1082
00:49:30,119 --> 00:49:32,679
who is really like in my opinion, like at best

1083
00:49:32,679 --> 00:49:35,159
a sea level fighter, you know you're gonna have to

1084
00:49:35,159 --> 00:49:37,559
reassess your career. I'm not saying you're done, but you're

1085
00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:39,679
really gonna have to think about it. He just say, like,

1086
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,320
I'm you know me, TJ. I've been doing the show

1087
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:42,960
a long time. I'm not one to like get too

1088
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,239
crazy to say, oh it's I must win. This is

1089
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,280
basically about a must win as you get for Tim

1090
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:47,840
Zoo at this.

1091
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,679
Speaker 3: Point, well, and they're trying to set up, you know,

1092
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,760
becoming first the uh Keith Thurman fight that never happened,

1093
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,159
Thurman fighting Brock Jarvis. We'll talk about that soon another Australian.

1094
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,880
They're trying to set that fi up by having both

1095
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,920
of them win later on in the year, but.

1096
00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:07,079
Speaker 1: Because because Thurman is going to Australia to fight Jarvis,

1097
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:10,360
that fights on March twelfth, if he wins, and if

1098
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,400
in April Tim Zoo comes through the fight with with

1099
00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:16,199
Joey Spencer. And again the plan it's not like it's

1100
00:50:16,199 --> 00:50:19,239
definitive with a date or a sight. But sometime this summer,

1101
00:50:19,519 --> 00:50:21,840
I am told as a non pay per view on

1102
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,639
Prime Video, could be in America, could be in Australia.

1103
00:50:24,679 --> 00:50:27,840
But they're gonna that the two fighters, Thurman and Zoo

1104
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,480
have already agreed to fight each other and sort of

1105
00:50:29,519 --> 00:50:32,119
put that fight back together again. And if that happens

1106
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:34,239
and they're both coming off wins and their upcoming bouts,

1107
00:50:34,519 --> 00:50:36,800
you know, especially as a non paper, I'm definitely interested

1108
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,679
to see that. But you know, first things first, these

1109
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,280
these guys both have to take care of their business. Uh,

1110
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,079
you know, I think Thurman is in somewhat of a

1111
00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:46,440
real fight because of his long, long, long, long layoff,

1112
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,280
and Jarvis is not like that bad of a fighter.

1113
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,679
Tim Zoo though, to me, it's not about Joey Spencer.

1114
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,079
It's about what does Tim Zoo have in his mind?

1115
00:50:54,199 --> 00:50:56,320
How is he mentally? Can he can he deal with

1116
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,840
trying to come back from a bad knockout loss and

1117
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,119
overcome those demons. We'll see what happens, you know, in

1118
00:51:01,159 --> 00:51:01,639
a few weeks.

1119
00:51:01,639 --> 00:51:05,079
Speaker 3: Agreed, Agreed, all right, a piece of nostalgia and it

1120
00:51:05,159 --> 00:51:10,199
comes up from sixteen years ago. On Friday February twenty eighth,

1121
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,840
two thousand and nine, as we released the podcast, and

1122
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:17,119
Juan Manuel Marquez, a name that we have frequently talked about,

1123
00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:21,079
scored a knockout win to retain the lineal and win

1124
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:25,880
the vacant WBO and WBA lightweight titles. Mister Rayfield was

1125
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,320
there and this was the fight of the year in

1126
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,679
two thousand and nine, only in February.

1127
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:32,559
Speaker 2: Tell me more about it.

1128
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was the consensus fight of the year. This

1129
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,679
was picked by the Boxing Writers Association of America. I

1130
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,800
picked it as the fight of the Year for ESPN,

1131
00:51:41,119 --> 00:51:42,840
it was picked as the Ring magazine Fight of the yearning.

1132
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,039
Basically everybody that was picking fights of the year picked

1133
00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:48,000
this fight. It was a spectacular shootout. Both guys had support.

1134
00:51:48,039 --> 00:51:50,800
Wan Diez is from Houston who had the hometown behind him,

1135
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,199
but of course Marquez was a very popular fighter from

1136
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,320
Mexico and obviously it's a large Mexican and Mexican American

1137
00:51:56,559 --> 00:51:59,679
community in Houston, so they both had their their fans

1138
00:51:59,679 --> 00:52:01,960
that were rooting for him, and it was sensational. This

1139
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:04,599
was live on HBO. It was a ninth round knocked out,

1140
00:52:04,639 --> 00:52:07,320
but getting to the point where Marquez put Wanda's out

1141
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,679
pretty convincingly. It had been a complete battle, back and forth,

1142
00:52:10,679 --> 00:52:13,360
back and forth, back and forth. They started off with

1143
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,280
an undercart fight which was the hometown fighter, Rocky Warres,

1144
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,239
who was a long time featherweight contender, bought to a

1145
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,199
draw challenging for the WBA featherweight title against the Indonesian

1146
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,280
superstar Chris John, a fight that a lot of people

1147
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,800
thought that Rocky should have won. He had a number

1148
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,519
of title shots and he couldn't get over the hump.

1149
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,000
But that sort of started off the night where the

1150
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,800
hometown fighter, you know, in essence loss even though he

1151
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,480
got the draw because he didn't get the title. And

1152
00:52:37,519 --> 00:52:39,920
now you have wandas the hometown fighter comingto the ring

1153
00:52:40,199 --> 00:52:43,440
and he gets you know, basically knocked out cold to

1154
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:46,000
end you know what had been an absolutely sensational fight.

1155
00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:48,519
I mean marquees, you know, it was just you know,

1156
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:51,159
This is Marquez essentially at his at his best, you know.

1157
00:52:51,519 --> 00:52:54,440
You know, in his prime, prime years, fighting lots of

1158
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,159
good opponents. They were ranked one and two by everybody

1159
00:52:57,199 --> 00:53:00,519
at one hundred and thirty five pounds. You know, Marquez

1160
00:53:00,679 --> 00:53:03,119
was considered the lineal champion, he had the Ring magazine title.

1161
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,039
It was just just a bad ass kind of fight.

1162
00:53:05,159 --> 00:53:08,039
But he put Diaz down two times in the ninth round. Obviously,

1163
00:53:08,119 --> 00:53:10,480
the second one was what ended the fight. And it

1164
00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:13,119
doesn't get more exciting. I mean, it was a totally

1165
00:53:13,199 --> 00:53:16,119
enthralling battle. It's on YouTube, you can find it. Unfortunately,

1166
00:53:16,159 --> 00:53:18,280
when they fought in the rematch, because when you have

1167
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:19,880
a great fight like that, it only made sense for

1168
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,559
them to do a second fight. It didn't come closed now,

1169
00:53:22,639 --> 00:53:25,519
there was there was space in time between when they

1170
00:53:25,519 --> 00:53:29,119
did the fights because after Juan non will Marquez beat

1171
00:53:29,159 --> 00:53:31,960
Jan Diaz. The next fight he got later in two

1172
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,559
thousand and nine, he got picked by Floyd Mayweather when

1173
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Mayweather was coming back after a long not long, but

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he was out out of the ring for a couple

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of years in a retirement, and he picked on on

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Marquez and Mayweather, you know, beat Juan very easily. That

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night shot him out, knocked him down. But after that

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Wanda Jan Diaz became his next opponents. So he went

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from knocking out Wan Diez to uh, you know, win

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the fight of the year, retained the lightweight title, win

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some of the other belts, going up to welterweight, getting

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smoked in terms of a decision by Floyd, and then

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drop him back down to lightweight to defend the world

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title against Wanda's in the rematch. And even though he

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wanted decision, the fight paled in comparison to the greatness

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of their first fight. But that first fight was a special,

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special night. Houston was in the house, great great matchup.

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And I have a great memory of going the night

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before that fight to the Toyota Center, which is what

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hosted the fight, the home arena of the Houston Rockets,

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and I guess they gave the Golden Boy people that

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were promoting the fight a bunch of tickets, and so

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I sat with Bernard Hopkins and Shane Moseley and a

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bunch of the people involved with the promotion and some

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of the other reporters, and we watched from one of

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the beautiful sweets. We watched Lebron James's Cleveland Calves against

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Yao Ming's Houston Rockets.

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Speaker 3: Send to you. You've told that story before. That's how

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you roll. If you're gonna go to an NBA, you know,

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elite matchup, you're gonna roll in a suite with Sugar

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Shane Mosley and Oscar dal la Hoya to watch Lebron

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and Bernard helping. And now, what's interesting, you said the

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night before, so they they had to ready the arena

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very quickly for the ne next night for the championship.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I don't off the top, man, I thought it

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was the night before. I thought it was the Frind night.

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If I went back and look, maybe it was on

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the Thursday night. I probably got to town for the

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fight on Wednesday, maybe not early on Thursday. So now

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now you got me thinking maybe it was the maybe

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was still. But either way it was a blast.

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Speaker 3: This is how you were rolling with a younger Lebron

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and with Yao Ming, a huge deal globally and in Houston,

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and then that fight, which was the fight of the year.

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Speaker 2: Go dial that up on YouTube. Kids.

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Speaker 3: Really, jan Manuel Marquez and his KO of Jan Diaz,

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all right with that, we have been here for a second,

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and we've given you a bunch.

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Speaker 2: We gave you a little recap of the Japanese fight card.

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Speaker 3: We previewed Jervonte, Davis, Lamont Roach and the other fights

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on the PBC on Prime pay per view. Again, utilize

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our friends at PPV dot com for the one off purchase.

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Again the interaction with Jim Lampley, Lance Pugmeyer, Dan Canobio,

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Chris al Jury, our buds. That is a great feature

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on this Utilize it. Watch it in four eighty four

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K ten eighty I crystal clear quality. We love that

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with PPV dot Com as one of our sponsors here.

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Speaker 1: But I also realized, HEJ yeah, if you if you do,

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if you do buy the pay per view on PPV

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dot com, you get replays also for like what you do.

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I think it's like thirty days or yes or something

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like that.

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Speaker 3: Let me give you a perfect example of what you

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just described, because after we were talking about the controversy

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and it's pretty well died down of Turkey Alas sheet,

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going over and looking at the scorecards and coming to

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tell hams of Shiraz and the WBC Middleway title fight,

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I went back on PPV dot com and went back

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in the archive of that it was like a seven

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hour broadcast.

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Speaker 1: It was actually almost.

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Speaker 3: Nine hours, but the actual brought yeah, the actual fight

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to fight, you know, seven and a half, eight hours

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whatever it was, I found it and with thirty seconds

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to go in the tenth round is where Turkey Alashet

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gets up out of his chair in the front and

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goes around to look at the scorecard and then you know,

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or to that point the scorecards to then come to

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Shiraz and tell him what was going on. I'm just

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making the point that I went back and looked on

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the archive on PPV dot com to be able to

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find us. You can go back and rewatch it at

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a later date, all right, So we will handicap the

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Davis Roach fight and the two undercard junior welterweight world

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title fights on the bet Us show that's coming Friday

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at one Eastern time. A reminder, whatever happens, be on

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this podcast feed for the recap pod that comes your.

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Speaker 2: Way Sunday night into Monday.

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Speaker 3: That includes the Mattias fight coming in Puerto Rico and

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everything else going on this weekend other than that, Are

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we good?

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Speaker 2: Are we good? And ready for the weekend? And ready

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for the return of Tank Davis.

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Speaker 1: Mister, I'm ready.

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Speaker 2: All right, there you go. There's big Dan Rayfield.

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Speaker 3: Follow and subscribe on the substack, Fight Freaks your Night

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substack and the newsletter for all the info. By the way,

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just as a tease, what's the nostalgia that you have

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from the one Manuel Marquez one DS fight? What did

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you put up on the substack. I'm just curious in

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your social media do you have something there?

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Speaker 1: The anniversary is going to be on Friday.

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Speaker 3: On Friday, so you'll have something up Fridday. There's a

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t Subscribe to the soundstick.

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Speaker 1: I have a beautiful site poster, thin cardboard site poster

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from the.

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Speaker 2: Check it out.

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Speaker 3: If you are on the substack. If you're on the newsletter,

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you'll probably see that. So subscribe away for now though

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we're good again. We'll catch you on the bet Us

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