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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 2>Forty Right now. I was getting my steps in before

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<v Speaker 2>I came back to the mic. I was walking up

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<v Speaker 2>and down the hall, going to get some water, making

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<v Speaker 2>sure I get my steps in. It's something I swear by.

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<v Speaker 2>I average more than ten thousand steps per day, but

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<v Speaker 2>this week particularly, I'm trying to average twenty thousand steps

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<v Speaker 2>per day at least for the week, see if I

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<v Speaker 2>can work it into my schedule. And it's not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>the number of steps, it's just being intentional with being active.

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<v Speaker 2>Working in radio, you find yourself sitting a lot. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>matter if you're a personality behind the mic. You could

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<v Speaker 2>be an engineer, you could be a producer. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>hell of a lot of city and the next thing

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you've lost three or four hours of your

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<v Speaker 2>day and haven't moved. I have sworn by my pixel Watch,

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<v Speaker 2>that pixel Watch one, and now I have pixel Watch two,

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<v Speaker 2>which combines with Fitbit, and I've used Fitbit for the

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<v Speaker 2>better part of seven or eight years. And I've always

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<v Speaker 2>known in the back of my mind that my data

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<v Speaker 2>was subject to being either sold or stolen through a breach.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never deluded myself into thinking that just because I

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<v Speaker 2>did not consent to have my data being stolen or sold,

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<v Speaker 2>that it either or both wouldn't happen. But more and

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<v Speaker 2>more we're being forced to deal with that possibility, distinct possibility,

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<v Speaker 2>and it makes you wonder should you not use a

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<v Speaker 2>wearable wearable technology. I'm talking about smart watches, smart rings,

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<v Speaker 2>fitness trackers, body monitors, or even like you have those

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<v Speaker 2>heart monitors like the cardiomobiles, or you put your fingers

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<v Speaker 2>on it to give you a hospital grade, professional grade EKG.

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<v Speaker 2>It uploads to an app. All that kind of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>is very personal, but also that stuff is very valuable

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<v Speaker 2>and there are other companies which would love to have it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's just if it's sold or stolen. What about

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<v Speaker 2>the idea, and it's possible that that your own personal data,

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<v Speaker 2>your own health data, might be used against you in

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<v Speaker 2>the assessment of insurance life insurance or a medical insurance. No,

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<v Speaker 2>legally they're not supposed to do that, but if someone

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<v Speaker 2>has your data, it could happen. And more and more

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<v Speaker 2>real discussions are being had about the susceptibility of the

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<v Speaker 2>devices and also the feasibility or I would say the

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<v Speaker 2>wisdom of having that data out there now. For me,

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<v Speaker 2>I've that horse has left the barn about eight years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>So much of my data is out there's somewhere in

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<v Speaker 2>some place. I try not to think about it. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't even worry about it. It's something that I've talked

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<v Speaker 2>about before with Marshall Collier, our regular tech contributor. Is

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<v Speaker 2>something I think about, but not to the point of

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<v Speaker 2>paralyzing me. Because everywhere we turn we are asked to

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<v Speaker 2>give away some form of our data. We are asked

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<v Speaker 2>to sign in on a website through usually our email account,

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<v Speaker 2>through our Google account, or our iCloud account or something

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<v Speaker 2>we're signing in, and then those third party apps have

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<v Speaker 2>access to all of your other apps as well. It's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of scary when you think about it, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>the reality. And I love technology, I really do. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>always looking for the latest item, and to be honest

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<v Speaker 2>with you, I'll probably buy another smartwatch. Smartwatch why because

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<v Speaker 2>for me, the health benefits and the reminders of being

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<v Speaker 2>active and be able to track my resting heart rate

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<v Speaker 2>and oxygen levels, that to me is more valuable than

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<v Speaker 2>the concern of what some idiot out there may do

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<v Speaker 2>to breach a fitbit or some other location where my

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<v Speaker 2>dad is held is. I try not to live in fear,

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<v Speaker 2>and I try not to be paralyzed by what could happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about other people, but I'm still going

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<v Speaker 2>to use the technology, but I think we should do

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<v Speaker 2>it eyes wide open. Mark, You're looking at me as

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<v Speaker 2>if like you would never use a fitbit now.

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<v Speaker 3>All it would do is record that I am about

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<v Speaker 3>to have a heart attack or a stroke while I'm

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<v Speaker 3>reading the news before work every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you one of the people who would like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I would rather not know because it would paralyze me.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be all self conscious about that,

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<v Speaker 3>if you can relate to that at all, because I

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<v Speaker 3>think my walking around level of anxiety and anger is

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<v Speaker 3>probably pretty strong and I don't need to be remind

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<v Speaker 3>it constantly.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mind that because as I get older, I

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<v Speaker 2>need to stay abreast to certain things. I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 2>to be completely blind. But like, for example, I mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>resting heart rate, I monitor that constantly because it gives

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<v Speaker 2>to low sixties. I'm doing pretty well, and it will

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<v Speaker 2>rise if I should happen to get sick or if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not eating as well, and you know, my heart

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<v Speaker 2>is working harder, like if I had a night out drinking,

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<v Speaker 2>my resting heart rate is going to rise. Oh is

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<v Speaker 2>that what that does?

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<v Speaker 3>And we have a blood pressure cuff at home, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just gathering dust. I just can't be constantly worried about

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<v Speaker 3>that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that I agree with you monitoring my blood pressure

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<v Speaker 2>and it's something I've had to do, But when I

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<v Speaker 2>put on the cuff, it actually worries me more because

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<v Speaker 2>I got to be to the point where I was

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed with that information and then it started bothering me

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<v Speaker 2>and raising my blood pressure because I got to be

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<v Speaker 2>psychotic with it. Yeah. What is that?

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<v Speaker 3>The old quantum physics observational problem where the active observation

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<v Speaker 3>affects the thing you're observing, which, in this case is

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<v Speaker 3>your heart about to explode?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, Now, when I was checking my blood pressure,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't data that I was uploading, so it's not

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<v Speaker 2>something that I was worried about getting out there. There

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<v Speaker 2>are apps I could log the information on my fitbit,

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<v Speaker 2>but I never did. So that's another side of the coin,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, another side of the die. Something to consider.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the internal response where you respond to all this

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<v Speaker 2>data you have, and for me, I try not to

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<v Speaker 2>get too deep into it, worrying about my resting heart

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<v Speaker 2>rate or worrying about my blood pressure. But I am

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<v Speaker 2>cognizant of how I'm eating, I am cognizant of how

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<v Speaker 2>often that I'm moving, how many steps that I'm getting

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<v Speaker 2>in in a day. And although there are other concerns

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<v Speaker 2>about what happens to my data, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>let that power paralyze me because it's more important for

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<v Speaker 2>me to stay on this course in a general health

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<v Speaker 2>sense than worry about this data being misused. Because I

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<v Speaker 2>always start from the standpoint of, oh, it's already out there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it used to be had to worry about

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<v Speaker 2>your social Security number. Oh, trust me, it's out there

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<v Speaker 2>because you've given it to your healthcare provider, you've given

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<v Speaker 2>it to your job, you've given it to your phone company,

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<v Speaker 2>you've given it to just about every place where you

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<v Speaker 2>have utility. Your social Security number is out there. That

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<v Speaker 2>data has been breached in one of those companies, So

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<v Speaker 2>it's not something that I'm going to lose sleepover any

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<v Speaker 2>given night.

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<v Speaker 3>I get that the whole bandwidth thing and how you

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<v Speaker 3>should only spend time worrying about things that you can

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<v Speaker 3>affect or help. But at the same time, I think

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<v Speaker 3>when we stop being angry and outraged about things that

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<v Speaker 3>are wrong, that's when we're dead or our heart explodes

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<v Speaker 3>or that.

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<v Speaker 2>Pick your poison. It's Later with mo Kelly caf I

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<v Speaker 2>Can't I mo Kelly Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's weird. If you follow as much news as

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<v Speaker 2>I do, and you get into the granular discussions of

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<v Speaker 2>the economy and what the economic outlook is, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>weird when you have two similarly positioned companies have wildly

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<v Speaker 2>different views of what the economic picture looks like. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not making a point other than it's strange. It's

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<v Speaker 2>really strange. Here's Target. Target has forecasts as of today

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<v Speaker 2>that sales during the final quarter of this year will

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<v Speaker 2>be flat, and Target lowered its forecasts. Target also reported

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<v Speaker 2>a sluggish sales increase of just zero point three percent

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<v Speaker 2>this past quarter, and to it, shairs of Target plunged

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two percent today, Target's worst trading day in more

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<v Speaker 2>than two years. Economists say that Target is a bell

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<v Speaker 2>weather for consumer spending habits and the retail sector as

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<v Speaker 2>a whole. Let's say that that's true, then why is it?

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<v Speaker 2>I see an article on Walmart released just about the

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<v Speaker 2>exact same time, saying that the exact opposite is true.

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<v Speaker 2>Walmart has told its workers that it plans to win

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<v Speaker 2>the holiday season, and ahead of the peak shopping period,

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<v Speaker 2>Walmart retailers have said that they're well positioned and broad

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<v Speaker 2>based string across its product rage. In my mind, Walmart

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<v Speaker 2>and Target are similar, going after many of the same customers.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, despite all of Target's woes, which Target is

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<v Speaker 2>blaming on the economy, Walmart says that it's US sales

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<v Speaker 2>increased five percent in the third quarter, surpassing their own

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<v Speaker 2>analysts estimates. In fact, they expect to do very well

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<v Speaker 2>during the holiday season. So if you have Walmart and Target,

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<v Speaker 2>and Walmart is the largest retailer in the world, let's

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<v Speaker 2>be clear, the largest retailer in the world. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>the nation's largest retailer, and you have Target, who may

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<v Speaker 2>not be the nation's largest retailer, but going after basically

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<v Speaker 2>the same customers and Targets saying it's bad out there

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to have a bad holiday season, and

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<v Speaker 2>that means most tailors are going to have a bad

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<v Speaker 2>holiday season. But then Walmart says the exact opposite. So

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<v Speaker 2>who are you supposed to believe? Us sales for the

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<v Speaker 2>holiday shopping season are expected to increase from two point

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<v Speaker 2>five to three point five percent. That's according to the

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<v Speaker 2>National Retail Federation, And if you know your history, that's

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<v Speaker 2>consistent with where the economy was in terms of holiday

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<v Speaker 2>shopping in twenty nineteen. That was the first, I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>six months after the pandemic started in and around the

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me, a couple months before the pandemic started. And

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<v Speaker 2>Walmart also forecasts a three to four percent sales growth

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<v Speaker 2>for the current quarter. Gives quote an indication of how

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<v Speaker 2>we're thinking about the holiday period. Close quote. Sales at

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<v Speaker 2>Walmart's US e commerce business jumped twenty two last quarter,

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<v Speaker 2>the nation's largest retailer. So I struggle to understand if

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<v Speaker 2>the economy's so bad in the way that Target is

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<v Speaker 2>positioning it. How is it the nation's largest retailer is

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<v Speaker 2>doing gangbuster business both in person and online. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>me saying it, that's Walmart saying it. And Walmart is

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<v Speaker 2>saying we're going to do even better this holiday season.

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<v Speaker 2>And Walmart's e commerce business now represents eighteen percent of

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<v Speaker 2>its global business overall, it's going to be a banner

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<v Speaker 2>year or holiday season for Walmart. And Walmart is clearly

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<v Speaker 2>saying the economy is looking good for us, We're doing

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<v Speaker 2>just fine, and we expect a great holiday season. But

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<v Speaker 2>Target is trying to say, well, we're not doing as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're a bell weather for what other similarly targeted

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<v Speaker 2>stores no pun intended, are going to do this holiday season.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to make of it. I'm more

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<v Speaker 2>inclined to believe Walmart.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we're seeing lots of reports that people are planning

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<v Speaker 3>to buy major stuff before the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>How because the reason given from the economists that I've

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<v Speaker 3>been following is that they're all terrified of what's going

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<v Speaker 3>to happen when President elect Trump's tariffs going to effect.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I've got an article right here from Forbes,

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<v Speaker 3>with Walmart's CFO saying that his tariffs are probably going

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<v Speaker 3>to cause Walmart price hikes. I've gotten And if you think,

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<v Speaker 3>if you think Forbes is some lib commie pinko outlet,

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<v Speaker 3>I've gotten news for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't tell me Wall Street Journal.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got Morgan Stanley, Oh yes, yeah, saying the US

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<v Speaker 3>economy will collapse by twenty twenty six because of the tariffs.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's definitely causing a lot of people, regardless of

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<v Speaker 3>where you are on the political spectrum, to be nervous,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of arrange from a little nervous to filling their pants.

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<v Speaker 2>My takeaway is that if you're worried about what the

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<v Speaker 2>tariffs will do, then you're probably in a place where

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<v Speaker 2>you believe that the economy is not as bad as

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the economy's been booming by every metric this year,

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<v Speaker 2>But the point is most people don't view the economy

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<v Speaker 2>through actual indicators. They view it personally. They view it

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<v Speaker 2>in a personal feeling sense. In other words, they feel like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I pay more for gas, I pay more for eggs,

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<v Speaker 2>I pay more for milk. And that's not necessarily true,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's what many people will say, and they look

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<v Speaker 2>at the economy through the lens of what they feel personally.

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<v Speaker 2>That's correct. It's more about vibes. And if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at someone who actually knows anything about economics, if you

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<v Speaker 2>look at the leading indicators, if you look at housing,

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<v Speaker 2>at GD all of those things are moving in a

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<v Speaker 2>positive direction. The rate of inflation coming down. That's just

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<v Speaker 2>the fact. It's not about anyone's feelings. So what the

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<v Speaker 2>takeaway for me in these competing articles is you're hearing

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<v Speaker 2>from retailers after the election talking about that Forbes article,

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the Morgan Stanley article. They did not want

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<v Speaker 2>to say that before the election. If they said it

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<v Speaker 2>before the election, I believe they felt that they would

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<v Speaker 2>have been punished for saying it before the election. Now

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<v Speaker 2>the election's over, there saying oh, yeah, the tariffs are

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<v Speaker 2>probably going to cause a problem for not only us

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<v Speaker 2>as retailers, but for consumers as well as we pass

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<v Speaker 2>along that tax to consumers.

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<v Speaker 3>There are a lot of factors going on at once here.

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<v Speaker 3>For one thing, I think a lot of the people

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<v Speaker 3>who didn't want to report on the possible effects, the

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<v Speaker 3>disastrous effects of tariffs, they're also the same people who

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<v Speaker 3>are looking forward to massive tax cuts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah they are, Yeah they are. That's why everything comes

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<v Speaker 3>There's no free gas, grass or ass man free.

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<v Speaker 2>And people will find out in their own way and

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<v Speaker 2>in their own time the difference between an actual tax

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<v Speaker 2>cut and also between that and tax liability. Just because

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<v Speaker 2>mean that your overall liability has been decreased. For some reason,

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<v Speaker 2>people still haven't learned that since twenty seventeen, and they

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<v Speaker 2>won't have to pay more at the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like changing the amount of your deductions. You

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<v Speaker 2>can you can play with it and give yourself a

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<v Speaker 2>tax cut if you want to, but ultimately that bill

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<v Speaker 2>still comes due at the end of the calendar year.

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<v Speaker 3>It might seem like free stuff, but it always costs.

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<v Speaker 3>But I thought people were against free nevermind.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you've been paying attention to I will say

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<v Speaker 2>the trends of streaming and cable, it seems that cable

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<v Speaker 2>that Comcast is planning this massive cable spin off, Cable

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<v Speaker 2>specifically is getting rid of USA Network, is getting rid

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<v Speaker 2>of MSNBC's getting rid of more from the NBC family,

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<v Speaker 2>and it says to me that this might be the

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<v Speaker 2>a limited delivery system. As I said, Comcast is going

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<v Speaker 2>to get rid of MSNBC, CNBC, Universal, Kids, USA, E Oxygen,

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<v Speaker 2>and Sci Fi Channel. And I'm surprised they didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>rid of Sci Fi Channel. A long time ago. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was a great idea, and then I started

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<v Speaker 2>watching some of the Sci Fi Channel and it just

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of that content was just garbage. Just it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't even B level. It was like D minus level.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of it's pretty cheap, but it was really bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't forget they did have battle stergole Active. No, they did.

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<v Speaker 2>They had far Escape, they had some other things which

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<v Speaker 2>were for decent, but their original programming was really, really bad.

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<v Speaker 2>They were taking stuff that was barely above you know,

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<v Speaker 2>theater projects coming out of college. It was really bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I can understand that Oxygen never turned into the channel

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<v Speaker 2>that I think comcasts thought it would. That's Oprah Winfrey's

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<v Speaker 2>channel E. Maybe E has just run its course. E

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<v Speaker 2>used to. I'm sorry to hear about USA Network because

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<v Speaker 2>I used to like a lot of USA Network shows.

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<v Speaker 2>They had suits, they had white collar, They've had a

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<v Speaker 2>number of psych They've had a number of shows over

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<v Speaker 2>the years. But you know, maybe they're just a little

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<v Speaker 2>long in the tooth. And also, you have streaming now

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<v Speaker 2>you don't need to have a cable channel, and people

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<v Speaker 2>have to pay for those cable channels, and people are

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<v Speaker 2>leaving and have been leaving cable in droves. In just

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<v Speaker 2>in case you didn't know, when you get a cable system,

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<v Speaker 2>you're often subsidizing a lot of these channels that you

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<v Speaker 2>never watch. Like if you get a cable subscription, you're

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<v Speaker 2>paying a lot of money for the ESPN cluster of channels,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of them you don't even watch. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>a part of the expense of getting a cable subscription.

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<v Speaker 2>You're paying for all those channels, watching them or not,

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to streaming, where you're more just getting the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that you actually want a la carte, as opposed

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<v Speaker 2>to the stuff that you really have no designs on watching.

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<v Speaker 2>That's part of the reason why Disney has been flirting

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<v Speaker 2>with selling off ESPN and other cable channels for quite

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<v Speaker 2>some time. They're not as lucrative as they once used

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<v Speaker 2>to be, and cable is a dying content divider provider.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we can say that streaming hasn't been the panacea

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<v Speaker 2>say that streaming hasn't been what we hoped to be

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<v Speaker 2>as far as the true alternative to cable. Remember we

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<v Speaker 2>got into streaming, he said, oh my goodness, I can

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<v Speaker 2>get this channel, I can get this streaming platform and

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be just what I wanted to watch. And at

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<v Speaker 2>the time it was more economical than cable. But now

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<v Speaker 2>you look at you get your Netflix, and you get

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<v Speaker 2>your Disney Plus and get your Paramount Plus and Max.

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<v Speaker 2>You put them all together, and it's getting right next

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<v Speaker 2>to what cable or satellite was what we were paying monthly.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is going to continue to evolve. But you

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<v Speaker 2>can see once again there's another nail in the coffin

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<v Speaker 2>of cable and the new Comcast last NBC will consist

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<v Speaker 2>of its broadcast operations, NBC News, NBC Sports, Peacock, and

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<v Speaker 2>the company's theme parks. And if you think about streaming Comcast,

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<v Speaker 2>probably I don't know this, but I think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>all the licensing and all the residuals to keep these

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<v Speaker 2>cable channels and their intellectual property available for you and me.

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<v Speaker 2>Peacock has never been doing as well I think, as

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<v Speaker 2>NBC would have hoped, but they still have to pay

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<v Speaker 2>the licensing on all these shows that I had mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>and others that I didn't mention to keep them on

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<v Speaker 2>the platform. Have you ever wondered why shows will go

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<v Speaker 2>away from Netflix or some other streaming platform because they

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to keep paying for them, so they would

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<v Speaker 2>rather bring in fresher content. Now, how to be Mark

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<v Speaker 2>manages to make money? I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I suspect that they have a lot of older

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<v Speaker 3>cult things that aren't in massively high demand that they

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, I guess, But when I turn on too

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<v Speaker 2>B it's like there's not a lot for me. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's great because it is free. I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>know as a business model, even with ads, how that works.

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<v Speaker 3>They so far have just about enough ads that you're

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<v Speaker 2>But you notice that they're there. Oh, you notice that

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<v Speaker 2>they're there. And as much as I've started liking Paramount Plus,

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<v Speaker 2>I started watching Landman, The Billy, Bob Thornton Show, Taylor

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<v Speaker 2>Sheridan Show. It is great. Bob Thornton is hilarious on

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<v Speaker 2>a show which is not meant to be so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>It is outright, laugh out loud funny. And the reason

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<v Speaker 2>I bring that up because Paramount Plus had been struggling,

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<v Speaker 2>but now they have some really hot content and turning

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<v Speaker 2>it and doesn't have the type of content which are

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<v Speaker 2>Paramount has Plus has been doing in recent months. They

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<v Speaker 2>other stuff on Paramount Plus, they're on a pretty good run.

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<v Speaker 3>They've got Star Trek too, so yes, you do Star Trek, Strange,

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<v Speaker 2>They have all the CBS shows as well. Kathy Bates.

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<v Speaker 2>it was supposed to be some updated Mattlock, which it

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<v Speaker 2>is not. Really, it is an attorney who's an attorney

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<v Speaker 2>to own right, who happens to be named Mattlock and

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<v Speaker 2>uses the idea of the Mattlock TV show to further

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<v Speaker 2>launch herself. It's it's almost it's it's what's the word.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like an inside joke almost, it's aware of it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds pretty metaware. Yeah, it's meta. That's a good way

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<v Speaker 2>people would think like, this is the Matlock that we

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<v Speaker 3>Also, everybody kind of felt like Andy Griffith was their Grandpa,

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, absolutely, And I had to get past that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, Okay, they're not trying to sell this

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<v Speaker 2>It's not. It's Cracker. It's just aware of the Andy

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<v Speaker 2>Griffiths show, and they're using that as a comparison point

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<v Speaker 3>I think Paramount Plus also has the modern classic Beavis

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<v Speaker 2>I've never liked that show. Oh cornhole, bunghole. I saw it.

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<v Speaker 2>It just was never funny to me. And I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you why. Because there were too many people at my

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<v Speaker 2>like Beafs and but fair enough because my mom didn't

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<v Speaker 2>the nose of the people that I work with, right right.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was hilarious and She's like, no, these

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<v Speaker 2>I've worked with literally every one of those people. So

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<v Speaker 2>and I think maybe that was part of the appeal

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<v Speaker 2>for some people. Beavs and butthead, especially for gen X,

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<v Speaker 2>we had a lot of folks who were beaves and

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<v Speaker 2>butthead who were pretty dumb and socially unaware, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know they're blissfully ignorant. The show just was funny to me.

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<v Speaker 2>The animation wasn't all that cool. It is just it

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<v Speaker 2>just seemed cheap in every way. Sorry, if you happen

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<v Speaker 2>to be connected to the show. I wasn't a fan.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not connected to it, but I think it's hilarious

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<v Speaker 3>and they could have picked those kids right out of

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<v Speaker 3>my high school.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, that's what I mean. But for me, it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have the same type of allure. I think you

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<v Speaker 2>reach sort.

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<v Speaker 3>Of a Pavlovian point where you catch on to the

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<v Speaker 3>zen of how brilliant it is, and until that switch

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<v Speaker 3>is flipped, it's just annoying brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a that's a I know. I stand on podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I stand by it. Watch some of the newer episodes.

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<v Speaker 3>They've got the old ones that were on MTV, and

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<v Speaker 3>they've got two seasons of the newer episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>Trust me on this. Interest slaps though, Oh it does

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<v Speaker 2>it does? Does that slap? Yeah, it does, it does.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe because Beavis and butt Heeads.

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<v Speaker 3>Seemed a whole lot like Wayne's world. I didn't like

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<v Speaker 3>Wayne either. Well, they could be distant inbred cousins. There

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<v Speaker 3>were a lot of similarities. There were a lot of similarities.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there were even some inside jokes or crossovers

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<v Speaker 3>with the T shirts were enough to look it up.

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<v Speaker 3>But I didn't care for either of them for the

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<v Speaker 3>same reason because I went to high school with them.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, they weren't cool then they're not cool now. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I think my overall point was that, unlike say Peacock,

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<v Speaker 3>which I think got a boost from the Olympics, Paramount

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<v Speaker 3>Plus has a lot of stuff that people want to watch,

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<v Speaker 3>old and new. I mean, yes, for God's sake, they've

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<v Speaker 3>got old mission in the whole seven seasons of Mission Impossible,

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<v Speaker 3>which is crack to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in love with Paramount Plus, and I didn't think

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<v Speaker 2>I would be because I only started watching it because

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<v Speaker 2>of Tulsa King, and then from there you find out,

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<v Speaker 2>oh you got this, oh you got that. Oh it

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<v Speaker 2>it's like Taylor Sheridan. Oh this is also Taylor Sheridan's show.

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<v Speaker 2>So it looked they got my money because they were

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<v Speaker 2>like a hater from the beginning. I was. I was

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<v Speaker 2>that's crazy, I was, and I thought, and I stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>I had canceled this description after the first season of

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<v Speaker 2>Tulsa King. It's like, I'm not watching anything else. I

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<v Speaker 2>tried watching like Star Trek, Lower Decks or something. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that was Paramount Plus, and I couldn't get into.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, well, there's nothing for me to watch. And

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<v Speaker 2>then my wife, unbeknownst to me, behind my back, like

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<v Speaker 2>she was cheating on me, decided to get Paramount Plus

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<v Speaker 2>because she was watching something else on the network. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what it was. And Tulsa's King second season came,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I started finding another stuff. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we're keeping this. We can't get rid of this.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Later with mo Kelly Live everywhere now iHeartRadio app

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<v Speaker 2>and Mark Robert. I have a special treat for you

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<v Speaker 2>right now. Do you remember earlier in the show we

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about universal basic income? In fact, I do. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about universal basic income and we had a

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<v Speaker 2>very special listener. I said that I've made mention of

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<v Speaker 2>Star Trek and how Star Trek did not have any money.

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<v Speaker 2>You said, credits, remember that absolutely? Okay. Well, joining us

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<v Speaker 2>on the show right now is Brannon Braga. He's a writer,

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<v Speaker 2>director of Star Trek, The Orville and is nigh and

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<v Speaker 2>he would like to correct you. Mark branded you there.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm there, my guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you hit me on Instagram during the show and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I.

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<v Speaker 4>Was listening in my car on the way home.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that is fantastic. Very quickly, can you run

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<v Speaker 2>down your IMDb credits for folks?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I did Star Trek for fifteen years, Star Trek Voyagers,

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<v Speaker 4>Star Trek Next Generation, Star Trek Enterprise, wrote a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of movies. That's what I'm mostly known for. But I

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<v Speaker 4>recently did The Orrville, which is a Star Trek knockoff.

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<v Speaker 4>I did two seasons of Cosmos Science. Oh, you just

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<v Speaker 4>showing off now, I'm a big fan of your show, guys. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate that I listened every night.

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<v Speaker 2>That is high praise. Now, what is it that Mark

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<v Speaker 2>got wrong about Star Trek? If this is on, Mark

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<v Speaker 2>got wrong, Okay, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>The only reason I'm correcting him is because he's a

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<v Speaker 4>self proclaimed fan and they don't have credits in the future,

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<v Speaker 4>the Star Trek Future. There's no money at all. As

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<v Speaker 4>a matter of fact, what.

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<v Speaker 3>Does Kirk yell to alternate universe Spock in mirror mirror?

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<v Speaker 3>What does he yell at him?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, here's the thing, I'm not not an Original series guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Come on, my tenure started on Next Generation, so you

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<v Speaker 4>got me.

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<v Speaker 3>There, but you got to know this stuff, he offers

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<v Speaker 3>him credits challenge.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, okay, Well, for a couple hundred years pass

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<v Speaker 4>between the original series and Next Generation, so maybe that's

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<v Speaker 4>what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the judges needed to declare this a draw.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>I was letting you Star Trek nerds fight it out

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<v Speaker 2>because I was under the impression mark that there was

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<v Speaker 2>no money in the future, and I thought that was

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned in the Star Trek movies. I think it was.

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<v Speaker 4>Star Trek Trek for free Contact.

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<v Speaker 2>First Contact. Yes, first Contact. They made mentioned of they're

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<v Speaker 2>not being any money. As one of the evils they've.

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<v Speaker 4>Got the card to Alfree. Woodard says there is no

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<v Speaker 4>money in the future, and she says, you mean you

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<v Speaker 4>don't get paid, and he explains that it's just not

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<v Speaker 4>something that's valued anymore. People look to better themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>I think by the time that came along the whole

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<v Speaker 3>universe of Star Trek had been ironed out, whereas in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen sixty six to sixty nine they were making stuff

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<v Speaker 3>up as they went along.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a great point. Actually, okay, that's a great point.

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<v Speaker 2>So can we say you're both right or you're both wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we're both right.

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<v Speaker 3>I am happy to be tied with Brandon Broda. This

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<v Speaker 3>is really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I love live radio and Brandon. We have to go

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<v Speaker 2>to a break, but please, I want to put you

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<v Speaker 2>on hold. Can you put me make sure that Stefan

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<v Speaker 2>gets your info so we can stay in touch and

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<v Speaker 2>have you on to have a more formal Star Trek

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<v Speaker 2>conversation and talk about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you got to come in here. Absolutely? Yeah, have

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<v Speaker 2>you come in studient? That'd be great.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh I would love to, man, I would love to.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we'll have to make that happen then, okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>have a great evening.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks guys.

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<v Speaker 2>And before we let you go for this hour, you

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