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Speaker 2: Forty Right now. I was getting my steps in before
Speaker 2: I came back to the mic. I was walking up
Speaker 2: and down the hall, going to get some water, making
Speaker 2: sure I get my steps in. It's something I swear by.
Speaker 2: I average more than ten thousand steps per day, but
Speaker 2: this week particularly, I'm trying to average twenty thousand steps
Speaker 2: per day at least for the week, see if I
Speaker 2: can work it into my schedule. And it's not necessarily
Speaker 2: the number of steps, it's just being intentional with being active.
Speaker 2: Working in radio, you find yourself sitting a lot. Doesn't
Speaker 2: matter if you're a personality behind the mic. You could
Speaker 2: be an engineer, you could be a producer. There's a
Speaker 2: hell of a lot of city and the next thing
Speaker 2: you know, you've lost three or four hours of your
Speaker 2: day and haven't moved. I have sworn by my pixel Watch,
Speaker 2: that pixel Watch one, and now I have pixel Watch two,
Speaker 2: which combines with Fitbit, and I've used Fitbit for the
Speaker 2: better part of seven or eight years. And I've always
Speaker 2: known in the back of my mind that my data
Speaker 2: was subject to being either sold or stolen through a breach.
Speaker 2: I've never deluded myself into thinking that just because I
Speaker 2: did not consent to have my data being stolen or sold,
Speaker 2: that it either or both wouldn't happen. But more and
Speaker 2: more we're being forced to deal with that possibility, distinct possibility,
Speaker 2: and it makes you wonder should you not use a
Speaker 2: wearable wearable technology. I'm talking about smart watches, smart rings,
Speaker 2: fitness trackers, body monitors, or even like you have those
Speaker 2: heart monitors like the cardiomobiles, or you put your fingers
Speaker 2: on it to give you a hospital grade, professional grade EKG.
Speaker 2: It uploads to an app. All that kind of stuff
Speaker 2: is very personal, but also that stuff is very valuable
Speaker 2: and there are other companies which would love to have it.
Speaker 2: And that's just if it's sold or stolen. What about
Speaker 2: the idea, and it's possible that that your own personal data,
Speaker 2: your own health data, might be used against you in
Speaker 2: the assessment of insurance life insurance or a medical insurance. No,
Speaker 2: legally they're not supposed to do that, but if someone
Speaker 2: has your data, it could happen. And more and more
Speaker 2: real discussions are being had about the susceptibility of the
Speaker 2: devices and also the feasibility or I would say the
Speaker 2: wisdom of having that data out there now. For me,
Speaker 2: I've that horse has left the barn about eight years ago.
Speaker 2: So much of my data is out there's somewhere in
Speaker 2: some place. I try not to think about it. I
Speaker 2: can't even worry about it. It's something that I've talked
Speaker 2: about before with Marshall Collier, our regular tech contributor. Is
Speaker 2: something I think about, but not to the point of
Speaker 2: paralyzing me. Because everywhere we turn we are asked to
Speaker 2: give away some form of our data. We are asked
Speaker 2: to sign in on a website through usually our email account,
Speaker 2: through our Google account, or our iCloud account or something
Speaker 2: we're signing in, and then those third party apps have
Speaker 2: access to all of your other apps as well. It's
Speaker 2: kind of scary when you think about it, but it's
Speaker 2: the reality. And I love technology, I really do. I'm
Speaker 2: always looking for the latest item, and to be honest
Speaker 2: with you, I'll probably buy another smartwatch. Smartwatch why because
Speaker 2: for me, the health benefits and the reminders of being
Speaker 2: active and be able to track my resting heart rate
Speaker 2: and oxygen levels, that to me is more valuable than
Speaker 2: the concern of what some idiot out there may do
Speaker 2: to breach a fitbit or some other location where my
Speaker 2: dad is held is. I try not to live in fear,
Speaker 2: and I try not to be paralyzed by what could happen.
Speaker 2: I don't know about other people, but I'm still going
Speaker 2: to use the technology, but I think we should do
Speaker 2: it eyes wide open. Mark, You're looking at me as
Speaker 2: if like you would never use a fitbit now.
Speaker 3: All it would do is record that I am about
Speaker 3: to have a heart attack or a stroke while I'm
Speaker 3: reading the news before work every day.
Speaker 2: Are you one of the people who would like, Hey,
Speaker 2: I would rather not know because it would paralyze me.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be all self conscious about that,
Speaker 3: if you can relate to that at all, because I
Speaker 3: think my walking around level of anxiety and anger is
Speaker 3: probably pretty strong and I don't need to be remind
Speaker 3: it constantly.
Speaker 2: I don't mind that because as I get older, I
Speaker 2: need to stay abreast to certain things. I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to be completely blind. But like, for example, I mentioned
Speaker 2: resting heart rate, I monitor that constantly because it gives
Speaker 2: me a sense of how active I've been. I know
Speaker 2: if I keep my resting heart rate in the mid
Speaker 2: to low sixties. I'm doing pretty well, and it will
Speaker 2: rise if I should happen to get sick or if
Speaker 2: I'm not eating as well, and you know, my heart
Speaker 2: is working harder, like if I had a night out drinking,
Speaker 2: my resting heart rate is going to rise. Oh is
Speaker 2: that what that does?
Speaker 3: And we have a blood pressure cuff at home, it's
Speaker 3: just gathering dust. I just can't be constantly worried about
Speaker 3: that stuff.
Speaker 2: Now that I agree with you monitoring my blood pressure
Speaker 2: and it's something I've had to do, But when I
Speaker 2: put on the cuff, it actually worries me more because
Speaker 2: I got to be to the point where I was
Speaker 2: obsessed with that information and then it started bothering me
Speaker 2: and raising my blood pressure because I got to be
Speaker 2: psychotic with it. Yeah. What is that?
Speaker 3: The old quantum physics observational problem where the active observation
Speaker 3: affects the thing you're observing, which, in this case is
Speaker 3: your heart about to explode?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, Now, when I was checking my blood pressure,
Speaker 2: it wasn't data that I was uploading, so it's not
Speaker 2: something that I was worried about getting out there. There
Speaker 2: are apps I could log the information on my fitbit,
Speaker 2: but I never did. So that's another side of the coin,
Speaker 2: or you know, another side of the die. Something to consider.
Speaker 2: There's the internal response where you respond to all this
Speaker 2: data you have, and for me, I try not to
Speaker 2: get too deep into it, worrying about my resting heart
Speaker 2: rate or worrying about my blood pressure. But I am
Speaker 2: cognizant of how I'm eating, I am cognizant of how
Speaker 2: often that I'm moving, how many steps that I'm getting
Speaker 2: in in a day. And although there are other concerns
Speaker 2: about what happens to my data, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: let that power paralyze me because it's more important for
Speaker 2: me to stay on this course in a general health
Speaker 2: sense than worry about this data being misused. Because I
Speaker 2: always start from the standpoint of, oh, it's already out there.
Speaker 2: You know it used to be had to worry about
Speaker 2: your social Security number. Oh, trust me, it's out there
Speaker 2: because you've given it to your healthcare provider, you've given
Speaker 2: it to your job, you've given it to your phone company,
Speaker 2: you've given it to just about every place where you
Speaker 2: have utility. Your social Security number is out there. That
Speaker 2: data has been breached in one of those companies, So
Speaker 2: it's not something that I'm going to lose sleepover any
Speaker 2: given night.
Speaker 3: I get that the whole bandwidth thing and how you
Speaker 3: should only spend time worrying about things that you can
Speaker 3: affect or help. But at the same time, I think
Speaker 3: when we stop being angry and outraged about things that
Speaker 3: are wrong, that's when we're dead or our heart explodes
Speaker 3: or that.
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Speaker 2: And it's weird. If you follow as much news as
Speaker 2: I do, and you get into the granular discussions of
Speaker 2: the economy and what the economic outlook is, it's it's
Speaker 2: weird when you have two similarly positioned companies have wildly
Speaker 2: different views of what the economic picture looks like. And
Speaker 2: I'm not making a point other than it's strange. It's
Speaker 2: really strange. Here's Target. Target has forecasts as of today
Speaker 2: that sales during the final quarter of this year will
Speaker 2: be flat, and Target lowered its forecasts. Target also reported
Speaker 2: a sluggish sales increase of just zero point three percent
Speaker 2: this past quarter, and to it, shairs of Target plunged
Speaker 2: twenty two percent today, Target's worst trading day in more
Speaker 2: than two years. Economists say that Target is a bell
Speaker 2: weather for consumer spending habits and the retail sector as
Speaker 2: a whole. Let's say that that's true, then why is it?
Speaker 2: I see an article on Walmart released just about the
Speaker 2: exact same time, saying that the exact opposite is true.
Speaker 2: Walmart has told its workers that it plans to win
Speaker 2: the holiday season, and ahead of the peak shopping period,
Speaker 2: Walmart retailers have said that they're well positioned and broad
Speaker 2: based string across its product rage. In my mind, Walmart
Speaker 2: and Target are similar, going after many of the same customers.
Speaker 2: In fact, despite all of Target's woes, which Target is
Speaker 2: blaming on the economy, Walmart says that it's US sales
Speaker 2: increased five percent in the third quarter, surpassing their own
Speaker 2: analysts estimates. In fact, they expect to do very well
Speaker 2: during the holiday season. So if you have Walmart and Target,
Speaker 2: and Walmart is the largest retailer in the world, let's
Speaker 2: be clear, the largest retailer in the world. Excuse me,
Speaker 2: the nation's largest retailer, and you have Target, who may
Speaker 2: not be the nation's largest retailer, but going after basically
Speaker 2: the same customers and Targets saying it's bad out there
Speaker 2: and we're going to have a bad holiday season, and
Speaker 2: that means most tailors are going to have a bad
Speaker 2: holiday season. But then Walmart says the exact opposite. So
Speaker 2: who are you supposed to believe? Us sales for the
Speaker 2: holiday shopping season are expected to increase from two point
Speaker 2: five to three point five percent. That's according to the
Speaker 2: National Retail Federation, And if you know your history, that's
Speaker 2: consistent with where the economy was in terms of holiday
Speaker 2: shopping in twenty nineteen. That was the first, I would say,
Speaker 2: six months after the pandemic started in and around the
Speaker 2: excuse me, a couple months before the pandemic started. And
Speaker 2: Walmart also forecasts a three to four percent sales growth
Speaker 2: for the current quarter. Gives quote an indication of how
Speaker 2: we're thinking about the holiday period. Close quote. Sales at
Speaker 2: Walmart's US e commerce business jumped twenty two last quarter,
Speaker 2: the nation's largest retailer. So I struggle to understand if
Speaker 2: the economy's so bad in the way that Target is
Speaker 2: positioning it. How is it the nation's largest retailer is
Speaker 2: doing gangbuster business both in person and online. That's not
Speaker 2: me saying it, that's Walmart saying it. And Walmart is
Speaker 2: saying we're going to do even better this holiday season.
Speaker 2: And Walmart's e commerce business now represents eighteen percent of
Speaker 2: its global business overall, it's going to be a banner
Speaker 2: year or holiday season for Walmart. And Walmart is clearly
Speaker 2: saying the economy is looking good for us, We're doing
Speaker 2: just fine, and we expect a great holiday season. But
Speaker 2: Target is trying to say, well, we're not doing as well,
Speaker 2: and we're a bell weather for what other similarly targeted
Speaker 2: stores no pun intended, are going to do this holiday season.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of it. I'm more
Speaker 2: inclined to believe Walmart.
Speaker 3: Well, we're seeing lots of reports that people are planning
Speaker 3: to buy major stuff before the end of the year.
Speaker 3: How because the reason given from the economists that I've
Speaker 3: been following is that they're all terrified of what's going
Speaker 3: to happen when President elect Trump's tariffs going to effect.
Speaker 3: And so I've got an article right here from Forbes,
Speaker 3: with Walmart's CFO saying that his tariffs are probably going
Speaker 3: to cause Walmart price hikes. I've gotten And if you think,
Speaker 3: if you think Forbes is some lib commie pinko outlet,
Speaker 3: I've gotten news for you.
Speaker 2: Don't tell me Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 3: We've got Morgan Stanley, Oh yes, yeah, saying the US
Speaker 3: economy will collapse by twenty twenty six because of the tariffs.
Speaker 3: So it's definitely causing a lot of people, regardless of
Speaker 3: where you are on the political spectrum, to be nervous,
Speaker 3: kind of arrange from a little nervous to filling their pants.
Speaker 2: My takeaway is that if you're worried about what the
Speaker 2: tariffs will do, then you're probably in a place where
Speaker 2: you believe that the economy is not as bad as
Speaker 2: people would have you believe, and it can get a
Speaker 2: hell of a lot worse.
Speaker 3: Well, the economy's been booming by every metric this year,
Speaker 3: so it could only get worse from where we're at
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 2: But the point is most people don't view the economy
Speaker 2: through actual indicators. They view it personally. They view it
Speaker 2: in a personal feeling sense. In other words, they feel like, well,
Speaker 2: I pay more for gas, I pay more for eggs,
Speaker 2: I pay more for milk. And that's not necessarily true,
Speaker 2: but that's what many people will say, and they look
Speaker 2: at the economy through the lens of what they feel personally.
Speaker 2: That's correct. It's more about vibes. And if you look
Speaker 2: at someone who actually knows anything about economics, if you
Speaker 2: look at the leading indicators, if you look at housing,
Speaker 2: if you look at the stock market, if you look
Speaker 2: at GD all of those things are moving in a
Speaker 2: positive direction. The rate of inflation coming down. That's just
Speaker 2: the fact. It's not about anyone's feelings. So what the
Speaker 2: takeaway for me in these competing articles is you're hearing
Speaker 2: from retailers after the election talking about that Forbes article,
Speaker 2: talking about the Morgan Stanley article. They did not want
Speaker 2: to say that before the election. If they said it
Speaker 2: before the election, I believe they felt that they would
Speaker 2: have been punished for saying it before the election. Now
Speaker 2: the election's over, there saying oh, yeah, the tariffs are
Speaker 2: probably going to cause a problem for not only us
Speaker 2: as retailers, but for consumers as well as we pass
Speaker 2: along that tax to consumers.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of factors going on at once here.
Speaker 3: For one thing, I think a lot of the people
Speaker 3: who didn't want to report on the possible effects, the
Speaker 3: disastrous effects of tariffs, they're also the same people who
Speaker 3: are looking forward to massive tax cuts.
Speaker 2: Yeah they are, Yeah they are. That's why everything comes
Speaker 2: with a price, you know.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 3: There's no free gas, grass or ass man free.
Speaker 2: And people will find out in their own way and
Speaker 2: in their own time the difference between an actual tax
Speaker 2: cut and also between that and tax liability. Just because
Speaker 2: less money is taken out of your check, it doesn't
Speaker 2: mean that your overall liability has been decreased. For some reason,
Speaker 2: people still haven't learned that since twenty seventeen, and they
Speaker 2: think because they have more take on money that they
Speaker 2: won't have to pay more at the end of the year.
Speaker 2: It's almost like changing the amount of your deductions. You
Speaker 2: can you can play with it and give yourself a
Speaker 2: tax cut if you want to, but ultimately that bill
Speaker 2: still comes due at the end of the calendar year.
Speaker 3: It might seem like free stuff, but it always costs.
Speaker 3: But I thought people were against free nevermind.
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Speaker 2: And if you've been paying attention to I will say
Speaker 2: the trends of streaming and cable, it seems that cable
Speaker 2: might be on the way out with content providers. And
Speaker 2: I say, maybe, I think this is maybe the first
Speaker 2: you to drop of many. But when I read today
Speaker 2: that Comcast is planning this massive cable spin off, Cable
Speaker 2: specifically is getting rid of USA Network, is getting rid
Speaker 2: of MSNBC's getting rid of more from the NBC family,
Speaker 2: and it says to me that this might be the
Speaker 2: first example of content providers moving beyond cable, which is
Speaker 2: a limited delivery system. As I said, Comcast is going
Speaker 2: to get rid of MSNBC, CNBC, Universal, Kids, USA, E Oxygen,
Speaker 2: and Sci Fi Channel. And I'm surprised they didn't get
Speaker 2: rid of Sci Fi Channel. A long time ago. I
Speaker 2: thought it was a great idea, and then I started
Speaker 2: watching some of the Sci Fi Channel and it just
Speaker 2: a lot of that content was just garbage. Just it
Speaker 2: wasn't even B level. It was like D minus level.
Speaker 2: A lot of it's pretty cheap, but it was really bad.
Speaker 2: Don't forget they did have battle stergole Active. No, they did.
Speaker 2: They had far Escape, they had some other things which
Speaker 2: were for decent, but their original programming was really, really bad.
Speaker 2: They were taking stuff that was barely above you know,
Speaker 2: theater projects coming out of college. It was really bad.
Speaker 2: I can understand that Oxygen never turned into the channel
Speaker 2: that I think comcasts thought it would. That's Oprah Winfrey's
Speaker 2: channel E. Maybe E has just run its course. E
Speaker 2: doesn't have the type of cache ad now that it
Speaker 2: used to. I'm sorry to hear about USA Network because
Speaker 2: I used to like a lot of USA Network shows.
Speaker 2: They had suits, they had white collar, They've had a
Speaker 2: number of psych They've had a number of shows over
Speaker 2: the years. But you know, maybe they're just a little
Speaker 2: long in the tooth. And also, you have streaming now
Speaker 2: you don't need to have a cable channel, and people
Speaker 2: have to pay for those cable channels, and people are
Speaker 2: leaving and have been leaving cable in droves. In just
Speaker 2: in case you didn't know, when you get a cable system,
Speaker 2: you're often subsidizing a lot of these channels that you
Speaker 2: never watch. Like if you get a cable subscription, you're
Speaker 2: paying a lot of money for the ESPN cluster of channels,
Speaker 2: a lot of them you don't even watch. But that's
Speaker 2: a part of the expense of getting a cable subscription.
Speaker 2: You're paying for all those channels, watching them or not,
Speaker 2: as opposed to streaming, where you're more just getting the
Speaker 2: stuff that you actually want a la carte, as opposed
Speaker 2: to the stuff that you really have no designs on watching.
Speaker 2: That's part of the reason why Disney has been flirting
Speaker 2: with selling off ESPN and other cable channels for quite
Speaker 2: some time. They're not as lucrative as they once used
Speaker 2: to be, and cable is a dying content divider provider.
Speaker 2: Now we can say that streaming hasn't been the panacea
Speaker 2: that we thought it was going to be. We can
Speaker 2: say that streaming hasn't been what we hoped to be
Speaker 2: as far as the true alternative to cable. Remember we
Speaker 2: got into streaming, he said, oh my goodness, I can
Speaker 2: get this channel, I can get this streaming platform and
Speaker 2: it'll be just what I wanted to watch. And at
Speaker 2: the time it was more economical than cable. But now
Speaker 2: you look at you get your Netflix, and you get
Speaker 2: your Disney Plus and get your Paramount Plus and Max.
Speaker 2: You put them all together, and it's getting right next
Speaker 2: to what cable or satellite was what we were paying monthly.
Speaker 2: And this is going to continue to evolve. But you
Speaker 2: can see once again there's another nail in the coffin
Speaker 2: of cable and the new Comcast last NBC will consist
Speaker 2: of its broadcast operations, NBC News, NBC Sports, Peacock, and
Speaker 2: the company's theme parks. And if you think about streaming Comcast,
Speaker 2: probably I don't know this, but I think it's a
Speaker 2: reasonable back. Comcast does not want to have to pay
Speaker 2: all the licensing and all the residuals to keep these
Speaker 2: cable channels and their intellectual property available for you and me.
Speaker 2: Peacock has never been doing as well I think, as
Speaker 2: NBC would have hoped, but they still have to pay
Speaker 2: the licensing on all these shows that I had mentioned
Speaker 2: and others that I didn't mention to keep them on
Speaker 2: the platform. Have you ever wondered why shows will go
Speaker 2: away from Netflix or some other streaming platform because they
Speaker 2: don't want to keep paying for them, so they would
Speaker 2: rather bring in fresher content. Now, how to be Mark
Speaker 2: manages to make money? I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: Well, I suspect that they have a lot of older
Speaker 3: cult things that aren't in massively high demand that they
Speaker 3: don't have to pay a huge licensing fee for.
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess, But when I turn on too
Speaker 2: B it's like there's not a lot for me. I
Speaker 2: think it's great because it is free. I just don't
Speaker 2: know as a business model, even with ads, how that works.
Speaker 3: They so far have just about enough ads that you're
Speaker 3: not going to want to bail on them.
Speaker 2: But you notice that they're there. Oh, you notice that
Speaker 2: they're there. And as much as I've started liking Paramount Plus,
Speaker 2: I started watching Landman, The Billy, Bob Thornton Show, Taylor
Speaker 2: Sheridan Show. It is great. Bob Thornton is hilarious on
Speaker 2: a show which is not meant to be so funny.
Speaker 2: It is outright, laugh out loud funny. And the reason
Speaker 2: I bring that up because Paramount Plus had been struggling,
Speaker 2: but now they have some really hot content and turning
Speaker 2: it around. Peacock never had that type of heat behind
Speaker 2: it and doesn't have the type of content which are
Speaker 2: bringing in new subscribers. I'd be willing to see what
Speaker 2: Paramount has Plus has been doing in recent months. They
Speaker 2: had to have been growing in subscribers because between Linus
Speaker 2: That and Tulsa King and this new show, Landman and
Speaker 2: other stuff on Paramount Plus, they're on a pretty good run.
Speaker 3: They've got Star Trek too, so yes, you do Star Trek, Strange,
Speaker 3: New World, Matt Locke.
Speaker 2: They have all the CBS shows as well. Kathy Bates.
Speaker 2: I've seen a couple of episodes. It's not It's not
Speaker 2: what I thought it was going to be. I thought
Speaker 2: it was supposed to be some updated Mattlock, which it
Speaker 2: is not. Really, it is an attorney who's an attorney
Speaker 2: to own right, who happens to be named Mattlock and
Speaker 2: uses the idea of the Mattlock TV show to further
Speaker 2: launch herself. It's it's almost it's it's what's the word.
Speaker 2: It's like an inside joke almost, it's aware of it
Speaker 2: sounds pretty metaware. Yeah, it's meta. That's a good way
Speaker 2: to describe it. So it's not the classic reboot that
Speaker 2: people would think like, this is the Matlock that we
Speaker 2: thought of the nineteen sixties or the nineteen eighties. No,
Speaker 2: it's completely different. I'm not sold.
Speaker 3: Also, everybody kind of felt like Andy Griffith was their Grandpa,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: No, no, absolutely, And I had to get past that,
Speaker 2: and I said, Okay, they're not trying to sell this
Speaker 2: to me as if it's Andy Griffith, the same character.
Speaker 2: It's not. It's Cracker. It's just aware of the Andy
Speaker 2: Griffiths show, and they're using that as a comparison point
Speaker 2: and a backstory for Kathy Bates's character.
Speaker 3: I think Paramount Plus also has the modern classic Beavis
Speaker 3: and butt Head.
Speaker 2: I've never liked that show. Oh cornhole, bunghole. I saw it.
Speaker 2: It just was never funny to me. And I'll tell
Speaker 2: you why. Because there were too many people at my
Speaker 2: high school who they were exactly like and I didn't
Speaker 2: like them. So I buy, you know association. I didn't
Speaker 2: like Beafs and but fair enough because my mom didn't
Speaker 2: like the office because she's like, they are too on
Speaker 2: the nose of the people that I work with, right right.
Speaker 2: I thought it was hilarious and She's like, no, these
Speaker 2: I've worked with literally every one of those people. So
Speaker 2: and I think maybe that was part of the appeal
Speaker 2: for some people. Beavs and butthead, especially for gen X,
Speaker 2: we had a lot of folks who were beaves and
Speaker 2: butthead who were pretty dumb and socially unaware, but you
Speaker 2: know they're blissfully ignorant. The show just was funny to me.
Speaker 2: The animation wasn't all that cool. It is just it
Speaker 2: just seemed cheap in every way. Sorry, if you happen
Speaker 2: to be connected to the show. I wasn't a fan.
Speaker 3: I'm not connected to it, but I think it's hilarious
Speaker 3: and they could have picked those kids right out of
Speaker 3: my high school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's what I mean. But for me, it
Speaker 2: didn't have the same type of allure. I think you
Speaker 2: reach sort.
Speaker 3: Of a Pavlovian point where you catch on to the
Speaker 3: zen of how brilliant it is, and until that switch
Speaker 3: is flipped, it's just annoying brilliant.
Speaker 2: That's a.
Speaker 3: That's a that's a I know. I stand on podcast.
Speaker 3: I stand by it. Watch some of the newer episodes.
Speaker 3: They've got the old ones that were on MTV, and
Speaker 3: they've got two seasons of the newer episodes.
Speaker 2: Trust me on this. Interest slaps though, Oh it does
Speaker 2: it does? Does that slap? Yeah, it does, it does.
Speaker 2: And maybe because Beavis and butt Heeads.
Speaker 3: Seemed a whole lot like Wayne's world. I didn't like
Speaker 3: Wayne either. Well, they could be distant inbred cousins. There
Speaker 3: were a lot of similarities. There were a lot of similarities.
Speaker 3: I think there were even some inside jokes or crossovers
Speaker 3: with the T shirts were enough to look it up.
Speaker 3: But I didn't care for either of them for the
Speaker 3: same reason because I went to high school with them.
Speaker 2: And you know, they weren't cool then they're not cool now. Well.
Speaker 3: I think my overall point was that, unlike say Peacock,
Speaker 3: which I think got a boost from the Olympics, Paramount
Speaker 3: Plus has a lot of stuff that people want to watch,
Speaker 3: old and new. I mean, yes, for God's sake, they've
Speaker 3: got old mission in the whole seven seasons of Mission Impossible,
Speaker 3: which is crack to me.
Speaker 2: I'm in love with Paramount Plus, and I didn't think
Speaker 2: I would be because I only started watching it because
Speaker 2: of Tulsa King, and then from there you find out,
Speaker 2: oh you got this, oh you got that. Oh it
Speaker 2: it's like Taylor Sheridan. Oh this is also Taylor Sheridan's show.
Speaker 2: So it looked they got my money because they were
Speaker 2: like a hater from the beginning. I was. I was
Speaker 2: that's crazy, I was, and I thought, and I stopped.
Speaker 2: I had canceled this description after the first season of
Speaker 2: Tulsa King. It's like, I'm not watching anything else. I
Speaker 2: tried watching like Star Trek, Lower Decks or something. I
Speaker 2: think that was Paramount Plus, and I couldn't get into.
Speaker 2: It's like, well, there's nothing for me to watch. And
Speaker 2: then my wife, unbeknownst to me, behind my back, like
Speaker 2: she was cheating on me, decided to get Paramount Plus
Speaker 2: because she was watching something else on the network. I
Speaker 2: don't know what it was. And Tulsa's King second season came,
Speaker 2: and then I started finding another stuff. I said, well,
Speaker 2: we're keeping this. We can't get rid of this.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2: It's Later with mo Kelly Live everywhere now iHeartRadio app
Speaker 2: and Mark Robert. I have a special treat for you
Speaker 2: right now. Do you remember earlier in the show we
Speaker 2: were talking about universal basic income? In fact, I do. Okay,
Speaker 2: we're talking about universal basic income and we had a
Speaker 2: very special listener. I said that I've made mention of
Speaker 2: Star Trek and how Star Trek did not have any money.
Speaker 2: You said, credits, remember that absolutely? Okay. Well, joining us
Speaker 2: on the show right now is Brannon Braga. He's a writer,
Speaker 2: director of Star Trek, The Orville and is nigh and
Speaker 2: he would like to correct you. Mark branded you there.
Speaker 4: I'm there, my guys.
Speaker 2: Hey, you hit me on Instagram during the show and
Speaker 2: I thought I.
Speaker 4: Was listening in my car on the way home.
Speaker 2: I think that is fantastic. Very quickly, can you run
Speaker 2: down your IMDb credits for folks?
Speaker 4: Oh, I did Star Trek for fifteen years, Star Trek Voyagers,
Speaker 4: Star Trek Next Generation, Star Trek Enterprise, wrote a couple
Speaker 4: of movies. That's what I'm mostly known for. But I
Speaker 4: recently did The Orrville, which is a Star Trek knockoff.
Speaker 4: I did two seasons of Cosmos Science. Oh, you just
Speaker 4: showing off now, I'm a big fan of your show, guys. Well,
Speaker 4: I appreciate that I listened every night.
Speaker 2: That is high praise. Now, what is it that Mark
Speaker 2: got wrong about Star Trek? If this is on, Mark
Speaker 2: got wrong, Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 4: The only reason I'm correcting him is because he's a
Speaker 4: self proclaimed fan and they don't have credits in the future,
Speaker 4: the Star Trek Future. There's no money at all. As
Speaker 4: a matter of fact, what.
Speaker 3: Does Kirk yell to alternate universe Spock in mirror mirror?
Speaker 3: What does he yell at him?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing, I'm not not an Original series guy.
Speaker 4: Come on, my tenure started on Next Generation, so you
Speaker 4: got me.
Speaker 3: There, but you got to know this stuff, he offers
Speaker 3: him credits challenge.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, okay, Well, for a couple hundred years pass
Speaker 4: between the original series and Next Generation, so maybe that's
Speaker 4: what happened.
Speaker 2: I think the judges needed to declare this a draw.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 2: I was letting you Star Trek nerds fight it out
Speaker 2: because I was under the impression mark that there was
Speaker 2: no money in the future, and I thought that was
Speaker 2: mentioned in the Star Trek movies. I think it was.
Speaker 4: Star Trek Trek for free Contact.
Speaker 2: First Contact. Yes, first Contact. They made mentioned of they're
Speaker 2: not being any money. As one of the evils they've.
Speaker 4: Got the card to Alfree. Woodard says there is no
Speaker 4: money in the future, and she says, you mean you
Speaker 4: don't get paid, and he explains that it's just not
Speaker 4: something that's valued anymore. People look to better themselves.
Speaker 3: I think by the time that came along the whole
Speaker 3: universe of Star Trek had been ironed out, whereas in
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty six to sixty nine they were making stuff
Speaker 3: up as they went along.
Speaker 4: That's a great point. Actually, okay, that's a great point.
Speaker 2: So can we say you're both right or you're both wrong.
Speaker 4: I think we're both right.
Speaker 3: I am happy to be tied with Brandon Broda. This
Speaker 3: is really cool.
Speaker 2: I love live radio and Brandon. We have to go
Speaker 2: to a break, but please, I want to put you
Speaker 2: on hold. Can you put me make sure that Stefan
Speaker 2: gets your info so we can stay in touch and
Speaker 2: have you on to have a more formal Star Trek
Speaker 2: conversation and talk about it.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Oh you got to come in here. Absolutely? Yeah, have
Speaker 2: you come in studient? That'd be great.
Speaker 4: Oh I would love to, man, I would love to.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll have to make that happen then, okay, all right,
Speaker 2: have a great evening.
Speaker 4: Thanks guys.
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