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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to you. I on the
Speaker 2: Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera.
Speaker 2: Jagan Zolas is out today, my guest homestays great friend
Speaker 2: and sponsored Lamont Honeley, former U A football player, and
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Speaker 3: It should be a good show today. You got you know,
Speaker 3: some real talent here.
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you Je for being here. You must have
Speaker 2: had nothing to do this afternoon. Thankfully for me.
Speaker 3: When you call me like on the last hour, Oh
Speaker 3: yeah right, you please give me notice.
Speaker 2: I'll give you twenty four hours coming. Did you come on?
Speaker 4: Sure? And then you instant message me. You don't have
Speaker 4: to addict and you know the decency to.
Speaker 2: Call me no cook. That's how we communicate. I don't
Speaker 2: We're like an old married couple, man.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't you when you're on that a lot, you're
Speaker 4: on Facebook, but but I like a person to call
Speaker 4: me so I can say.
Speaker 2: No, tell me a first, and I don't like that,
Speaker 2: So that's why I missed the messaging. Well, I'm glad
Speaker 2: you're here. Reluctantly, I know I have to drag you out.
Speaker 2: I guess you know. I'm not gonna apologize for dragging
Speaker 2: you out.
Speaker 3: No problem. I enjoyed this Friday afternoon.
Speaker 2: Three o'clock. The people at your offers say, God, I
Speaker 2: got them out, Thank you. Good.
Speaker 3: I'm good with it. Yeah, okay, I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 3: Let's do this.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, we're gonna talk a lot about football obviously.
Speaker 2: Have you had a chance to go to practice or no?
Speaker 3: Probably no, I have not.
Speaker 4: Actually I was on campus this morning for some other
Speaker 4: business and then I looked over into the practice and
Speaker 4: had the opportunity to stay, but I didn't.
Speaker 3: But I'm looking forward to going.
Speaker 2: Did you go to that thing with the DESIREE. I
Speaker 2: think there was like a like a pow wow. I
Speaker 2: don't know what it was like a get together.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, basically everything is based around the new direction they're
Speaker 4: going with the with the marketing, the marketing direction they're
Speaker 4: taking at this point in time. So they invited a
Speaker 4: few partners that they had in the past years, and
Speaker 4: you know, Arizona Health is one of those partners. So
Speaker 4: we had the opportunity to sit and talk to their
Speaker 4: team and look like it's going the right directions.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward for all different levels or what like, communications, marketing,
Speaker 2: get the advertisers, kind of thusday about what's going to happen.
Speaker 4: Well, trying to get the get the money twenty people
Speaker 4: here in Tucson who can afford to advertise at that level,
Speaker 4: A look exciting and and letting them know that, you know,
Speaker 4: we do have a different game plan, but we want
Speaker 4: you here, we want you to be app Okay, I
Speaker 4: mean it was kind of a little soft warming, but yeah,
Speaker 4: but we appreciate it.
Speaker 2: So I know you're kind of biased. I know you're
Speaker 2: kind of biased, you know on this way you like
Speaker 2: to do the way things are being done.
Speaker 3: You mean, all the platform, the whole athletic department is
Speaker 3: just football.
Speaker 2: The whole thought the department and football.
Speaker 3: If you want to go there, well, football by all means.
Speaker 4: I love the way the things that I'm seeing football,
Speaker 4: I mean I I mean again, I like it to
Speaker 4: a lot of things that take place in the previous
Speaker 4: years that we played here, guys that played here and
Speaker 4: under coach told me as well as lur Smith.
Speaker 2: And what does that mean? Family?
Speaker 4: The culture, the family culture and what Brennan and his
Speaker 4: staff is bringing. I mean he put things out on
Speaker 4: the universe and and and and make it happen. He
Speaker 4: gets these kids to believe in their direction that he's taking.
Speaker 4: The thing that I like too is that he less
Speaker 4: his coaches coach and I see that's taking place, and uh,
Speaker 4: and a kid gonna be more you know, excited about
Speaker 4: coaching for his position coach versus playing for his position
Speaker 4: coach versus playing for the head coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So let me ask you, because I asked Jay
Speaker 2: this yesterday. I don't think I've asked anybody this question
Speaker 2: in a long time. If at all, you have a
Speaker 2: very good coach or a coach, you have very good players.
Speaker 2: What's more important the talent or the coaching?
Speaker 4: If you have a very good coach or player, which
Speaker 4: more important than talent?
Speaker 2: What wins you a lot of games?
Speaker 4: I think talent wins a lot of games. Well, you
Speaker 4: could be a bad you got great talent.
Speaker 3: I think the talent.
Speaker 2: We've also seen that you've had good talent with the
Speaker 2: bad coach and they just don't play hard for me.
Speaker 3: So I guess neither one makes a difference.
Speaker 2: Well there's no right or wrong answer, but but good
Speaker 2: point we kind of determined, at least with jay Is,
Speaker 2: I think they're kind of together. They simultaneously you need
Speaker 2: a good coach.
Speaker 3: But I think I think it's that's a good statement.
Speaker 4: And when you come to football, because you got more
Speaker 4: no personnel, no, you got more personnel that's involved.
Speaker 3: Let's take basketball.
Speaker 4: You can have a talented player on basketball and a
Speaker 4: pretty bad coach. And if that player is on basketball,
Speaker 4: Sean Elliott, it was very talented guy. I'm not saying
Speaker 4: Luke was a bad coach, but I think that was
Speaker 4: that they turned everything around for Arizona basketball because he
Speaker 4: got that talented player in Sean Elliott. And yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean you got a limited roster that's on the on
Speaker 4: the court at that point in time.
Speaker 3: But football, I.
Speaker 4: Mean you're talking a lot of bodies, so I can
Speaker 4: see maybe that can be you know a little different
Speaker 4: in football than basket.
Speaker 2: So when you played, when you were playing, and when
Speaker 2: you're brother playing those guys who did I still believe
Speaker 2: that you play hard for the people you you respect,
Speaker 2: that you loved to play for. With all questions, So
Speaker 2: who did what motivated you to play and to get better?
Speaker 3: Well, myself first and foremost. Yeah, I have a self motivated.
Speaker 2: Because that what makes a good player anyway.
Speaker 3: True.
Speaker 4: I mean, you gotta be within yourself. But there are
Speaker 4: some players that need someone to get that out of it. Exactly,
Speaker 4: they just don't have it. So there are some players
Speaker 4: that need to have someone to get pull that out
Speaker 4: of it. I was fortunate that I had a brother
Speaker 4: in my household that that kind of drove me to
Speaker 4: be better because he's such a great player. And I
Speaker 4: did everything I could do to you know, make myself
Speaker 4: a pretty decent football.
Speaker 2: Before we go to the next one. Did he did
Speaker 2: he push you verbally or otherwise? Or he was just
Speaker 2: your inspiration?
Speaker 3: He was just my inspiration. There was nothing you know
Speaker 3: that he would size himself up.
Speaker 4: So you gotta do this, you should, right, He just
Speaker 4: I guess he just showed by, he gave my experience
Speaker 4: or he showed me back examples and.
Speaker 2: Who's your who's your who's your who's your position? Coach
Speaker 2: Tom Roganman, Okay, so and he he was one of
Speaker 2: those guys.
Speaker 3: Inspiration, perspiration and inspiration.
Speaker 2: Did he beat did he beat your ass? Did he
Speaker 2: push your ass?
Speaker 3: Mentally he did?
Speaker 4: But he I mean he was strong enough that he
Speaker 4: would get in and play with us, you know, and
Speaker 4: show us different things.
Speaker 3: So that's what I meant by the perspiration aspect of it.
Speaker 4: But but mentally, I mean he would he would play
Speaker 4: with your mind at the beginning of the practice of
Speaker 4: the week and then he I mean, he'll put you
Speaker 4: in a place where you prepare for Saturday. He did
Speaker 4: everything he needed to do prepare you for Saturday. And
Speaker 4: then at that point in time, he was playing the
Speaker 4: game with you on Saturday. I mean, he's on the sidelline,
Speaker 4: playing the game with us. And then you know, and
Speaker 4: that's to me, that's a good sign of good coach.
Speaker 2: Well, no, exactly so, and this is what I've learned.
Speaker 2: The good coaches mean something. They mean something, and you
Speaker 2: and you work Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday to show
Speaker 2: what you've learned on Saaturday.
Speaker 4: Exactly and and you know, and then if I look
Speaker 4: at this roster of coaches, I think we got quite
Speaker 4: a few of those guys.
Speaker 3: Alonzo Carter.
Speaker 4: I mean that that guy, he's I mean, I think
Speaker 4: he has every you know, every every bit of interest
Speaker 4: in his kids, and he's coaching over there and those
Speaker 4: kids going to play for him, you know, of course Dwayne,
Speaker 4: I mean Dwayne's it's.
Speaker 2: Just yeah, he's got that.
Speaker 4: He just has that yeah, with them in itself and stuff.
Speaker 4: And you probably can go down the list, and there's
Speaker 4: quite a few other.
Speaker 2: Show you without naming names, because I don't want you
Speaker 2: to name names or unless you want to. Uh, I've
Speaker 2: been around thirty eight years. Uh, you've been around forty
Speaker 2: forty oneish, forty tewish. Uh, they haven't had Uh, there's
Speaker 2: been a few coaches that haven't had that. That's it, right, And.
Speaker 3: The reason why they didn't they're not here.
Speaker 2: They're not here, and they didn't have the seasons they
Speaker 2: should have had exactly right.
Speaker 4: Oh Yeah, quite a few coaches that that's you know,
Speaker 4: before my time and during my time that did come
Speaker 4: and go, and even coaches on the staff. I mean
Speaker 4: there's probably some coaches on different staffs that didn't have that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and those coaches didn't stay around with the given staff
Speaker 4: at that point in time, and you know, and that's
Speaker 4: and coaches basically they got to get rid of guys
Speaker 4: and find the right chemistry or right personality to make
Speaker 4: things happen for them, just like they recruit a kid
Speaker 4: to come play for them, recruiting the coach.
Speaker 3: Sure, the same thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, okay. So that was the football side
Speaker 2: of it. What about the athletic side of it? You
Speaker 2: like what's calling on? There's a change, a huge change.
Speaker 2: He key's out, we have desiree in. I think it's
Speaker 2: probably too early to tell what directions it's going to go,
Speaker 2: but you see that there's a different direction.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean that's a very different direction as
Speaker 4: far as even the makeup of the players that's playing
Speaker 4: right now, meaning.
Speaker 3: The staff that's over there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a wait and see game. Really,
Speaker 4: you know, I think it's too early to put out
Speaker 4: what we're gonna I like her energy, though, I really
Speaker 4: do like her energy. She's out front with with every
Speaker 4: with everything. She's she's there with every sport, all the coaches,
Speaker 4: and and she's a fan and she's a fan for
Speaker 4: for Arizona Athletics and and you know, so those are
Speaker 4: the things that I've seen in her at this point,
Speaker 4: and too, you know that that's gonna make a difference
Speaker 4: in the next few.
Speaker 2: Months, right, So I guess so if you could, and
Speaker 2: we talked about it at the beginning when you showed up,
Speaker 2: if you could say what you learned today from your experience,
Speaker 2: because there was a lot of people like you. I
Speaker 2: saw some phases.
Speaker 3: There were you there.
Speaker 2: No I saw on Facebook because it became Facebook official.
Speaker 2: So I saw some people. And that's why I said
Speaker 2: it was you, it was your brother. It was because
Speaker 2: it was kind of kind of in the background. They
Speaker 2: kind of agree with you, this is okay, maybe maybe
Speaker 2: there's something here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And and like I said, it was pretty much
Speaker 3: a little soft date.
Speaker 4: You know, they actually to come over here and just
Speaker 4: just meet you, so to speak, and get a face
Speaker 4: with a name. And I think in the next couple
Speaker 4: of days, because I mean it's got to happen quick.
Speaker 4: In the next couple of days, I think a lot
Speaker 4: of stuff is going to take place, and a lot.
Speaker 3: Of things is going to happen.
Speaker 4: And you know, again, this athletic program and this athletic
Speaker 4: team belongs to this community. And and I think those
Speaker 4: people that's in that room, they realize that you know,
Speaker 4: it belongs to us, and if we choose to give,
Speaker 4: it's gonna be our choice because it's our team and
Speaker 4: our university. And the person that there, she's a bad problem.
Speaker 2: Well that's the whole thing, because they needed to sell
Speaker 2: it to you because you guys have deeper pockets than
Speaker 2: most people. No, but you do have. They're not asking
Speaker 2: you to dance if you couldn't dance, you know, so
Speaker 2: you have some pockets.
Speaker 4: Pockets you know, you know, And and I do have
Speaker 4: a different perspective of it than maybe some of the
Speaker 4: other people because again.
Speaker 3: You know, you were involved and was involved.
Speaker 4: I mean I came to this university, I played at
Speaker 4: this university. I graduated from this universe, not saying to
Speaker 4: people in the room. Other people in the room wasn't
Speaker 4: or it didn't, but I did, you know, So I
Speaker 4: do have some personal interest in it on that end
Speaker 4: of it, And honestly, the last few years that I
Speaker 4: chose to do some form of advertisement is because of that.
Speaker 4: And that's the direction I even expressed to you know, Tony,
Speaker 4: is that the guy's new marketing guy. And I said,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm doing this because I mean relationship that
Speaker 4: I have with my university. And you know, whatever you
Speaker 4: guys to choose to share with me is gonna be
Speaker 4: icing on the cake.
Speaker 2: No, no, I think that if they sell you guys,
Speaker 2: I'm saying you, you and many others like you who
Speaker 2: believe in the product, will help them get out of
Speaker 2: whatever mester in. Now, did you see? And I want
Speaker 2: to talk about this, and I hope you don't have
Speaker 2: this on breaking news, but the schools are going to
Speaker 2: charge fans Joe Public twenty five bucks, thirty bucks to
Speaker 2: go to go watch a practice. The Alabama's go House
Speaker 2: states to collective, to add to the nil collective, they're
Speaker 2: thinking of making one hundred fifty three hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 2: to go watch a practice.
Speaker 3: Well, those schools can do that.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, Arizona, you can draw maybe people.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's free. Now, how many show up?
Speaker 2: Well? Good point?
Speaker 3: Okay, so good point. Now you're gonna charge me?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I don't think right now.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, and again, those schools can do
Speaker 4: that because everybody's just you know, it's and again it's
Speaker 4: such a cultural thing that they grow up soon as
Speaker 4: they come out come to this earth.
Speaker 3: You know, it's Bama, it's.
Speaker 4: It's a Gator, it's all these different things. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: so that's a that's a no brainer.
Speaker 2: So how in the hell are you gonna compete?
Speaker 4: Well, I think the rich gonna get rich and everybody
Speaker 4: else is just gonna keep treading.
Speaker 5: On the water.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's no, it's not gonna be no different.
Speaker 2: It's no different.
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, there's gonna be some schools that
Speaker 4: can't survive by by by all means, Arizona will survive,
Speaker 4: but they won't be on the Alabama.
Speaker 2: It's the level of survival.
Speaker 3: They will survive, but they won't be Alabama stuff.
Speaker 4: And I think this new direction they're going right now,
Speaker 4: with the monies that they're going to create, it's gonna help.
Speaker 2: Do you and your guys, whoever your guys are to
Speaker 2: hang out with, uh, those with the kind of deep
Speaker 2: buckets talk about talk about the situation or no.
Speaker 4: Because I mean I talk about it with my family. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, I talk about with Arizona formal players. You know,
Speaker 4: we talk about situation. I talk about it with you know,
Speaker 4: some of the coaches that good friends of mine about
Speaker 4: things like that. But you know, that's pretty much the
Speaker 4: extent of it.
Speaker 3: Right, you know.
Speaker 4: And you know what I can give is probably some
Speaker 4: cases just my words, and you know what I think
Speaker 4: I might know, but I can put it in front
Speaker 4: of you, and then you choose to take.
Speaker 2: And to see how you can help at whatever level.
Speaker 4: You know, And that's important, you know, And I think
Speaker 4: that's one of the things that Desertraeys said today.
Speaker 3: How can you help me in whatever level?
Speaker 4: And you know, a person that give me one dollar
Speaker 4: to a million dollars, it's all important to us. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, because I believe that person give you one
Speaker 4: dollar can be a million dollar person at one point
Speaker 4: in time. But if you do the wrong thirst wrong
Speaker 4: thing to that person, they ain't got nothing.
Speaker 2: And we've known without saying names, that that has happened
Speaker 2: when you pissed off the wrong guy and then they're
Speaker 2: gone exactly.
Speaker 4: And I think they get that, at least she gets that,
Speaker 4: and she's hopefully going to move it towards her staff
Speaker 4: and treat us all this out.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's take a break. We're gonna go come
Speaker 2: back with our Friday guest, always Jake Fisher, another linebacker.
Speaker 2: Then we'll talk about linebacker you okay cool?
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Speaker 13: I'm doing well. I'm doing well. Working a little bit
Speaker 13: too much on a Friday for my liking, but it's okay.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, So did you did you watch Jake play?
Speaker 2: Did you watch like watch them?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I watched Jake play. I ja, you don't
Speaker 3: have to be nice to I'm not being nice. What'd
Speaker 3: you think?
Speaker 2: What'd you think?
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 4: I'm a man of my words, So you know I'm
Speaker 4: who I am. You know, I always respect for the game.
Speaker 4: Did he played? Because I mean, he wasn't the biggest
Speaker 4: person out there on the field, but I think he
Speaker 4: was very smart football player in regards the instinct of
Speaker 4: the game to place himself in the position to do
Speaker 4: the right things in his position.
Speaker 3: That's why he you know, the.
Speaker 4: Type of tackles he made and how many tackles he
Speaker 4: made because he played a game with smartness and not
Speaker 4: with you know, the strength that some players played with.
Speaker 2: Is that accurate?
Speaker 13: Little like us. We got to be in the right
Speaker 13: place at the right time and we're not gonna be
Speaker 13: on the field exactly.
Speaker 3: You find your spot and you did well, Jake.
Speaker 13: Yes, sir, thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So what do you know about what's going on
Speaker 2: for the first two three days of practice.
Speaker 13: Well, I heard that some of those newcomers that everybody
Speaker 13: was having questions about it looked really good. Uh, kilbru,
Speaker 13: I've heard looks the part a couple of the defensive guys.
Speaker 13: I forget the kids name from Colegate, whatever the heck,
Speaker 13: he's like a Nicols slash stape. I heard. He's looking like,
Speaker 13: you know, he can play a lot. Uh. You know. Obviously,
Speaker 13: the guys that we all know on a first night basis,
Speaker 13: they're all looking awesome. Have a few guys that they're
Speaker 13: keeping out because we don't want them to be hobbled
Speaker 13: come the first game. And I think that's uh. From
Speaker 13: everything I'm hearing, it sounds like Noah is looking like
Speaker 13: all world quarterback again. So I think, you know, from
Speaker 13: everything I've heard, everything's looking good.
Speaker 2: To both of you. Uh, flow right, just to flow. Uh.
Speaker 2: He came in with this reputation Oregon could play. How
Speaker 2: would you handle him? Because I think we've seen by
Speaker 2: the Naked eye a very a very energetic, kind of
Speaker 2: y goosey crazy player. I could be wrong, but how
Speaker 2: do you harness that energy to get him to play smart,
Speaker 2: to play like Jake?
Speaker 4: Well, well, first and foremost, it got to start in
Speaker 4: the classroom, you know. I think part of his problem
Speaker 4: is that he might not know the scheme or understand
Speaker 4: this game. And and again it's just me watching him,
Speaker 4: and he might not understand this.
Speaker 3: Game, but notice scheme. So that basically put him maybe
Speaker 3: a second or soul, you know, away from you.
Speaker 4: Know, making an impact play because he's thinking, he's not reacting,
Speaker 4: you know. So I don't I don't know how much
Speaker 4: he really understand the game of football. Like I was
Speaker 4: saying with in Jake's situation, he knew what he had
Speaker 4: to do once he got on that on that field
Speaker 4: and the ball snap, you go through the motion, and
Speaker 4: I think that's what's holding that skid back. He really,
Speaker 4: you know, don't have the true understanding or the grit
Speaker 4: in regards to where I'm at, where I'm supposed to be,
Speaker 4: and he's just reacting Jack Jake.
Speaker 13: Well, to be honest with you, he has gone through
Speaker 13: what three different schemes in three different years, so you know,
Speaker 13: I understand how hard that could be. But just the
Speaker 13: basic fundamentals. I mean, remember in high school, this kid
Speaker 13: came out, He's running a four three five and you
Speaker 13: know how big an athletic and you know, just crazy
Speaker 13: than athletes he is. He probably really didn't have to.
Speaker 13: But this is the thing. If if he can't kind
Speaker 13: of pick up on some of the schemes, you know,
Speaker 13: throw him in when it's gonna be the blitz package.
Speaker 13: Just let him, you know, put his you know, put
Speaker 13: his ears back, go after the quarterback, or just make
Speaker 13: it simple for him. That's that's the thing. You want
Speaker 13: to have an athlete like that at your disposal, and
Speaker 13: then just put him on every single special team. You know,
Speaker 13: let him run down, let him hit the hell out
Speaker 13: of somebody and make an impact, and.
Speaker 4: That'd be the perfect place for him, because again on
Speaker 4: a special team, he makes that impact that way. I
Speaker 4: mean that carries on to the defense. At that point
Speaker 4: in time. So the defense going on in the field
Speaker 4: and excited the fact that that hit, that's the place,
Speaker 4: you know. But you know, in fairness to him too,
Speaker 4: I mean, he has to know what's going on so
Speaker 4: he won't get hurt out there too.
Speaker 3: I mean, because you're sitting there, I mean, you got
Speaker 3: you your hands out on the slop. Understanding what's taking place,
Speaker 3: he can subject himself to get.
Speaker 2: Hur Conversely, let's go to the other linebacker, who's whole
Speaker 2: world money, right, He's kind of like got Jake in him,
Speaker 2: no time and circumstance, place and stuff, and just just
Speaker 2: very good Jake, very good.
Speaker 13: A little bit more, uh, I mean he's got a
Speaker 13: little bit more pop than I did. Obviously I get
Speaker 13: there and make the tackle. But when he shows up,
Speaker 13: he's not going to live in hell out of people,
Speaker 13: so understands the defense. You know, it's just instinctial for him.
Speaker 13: He just he was born to play the game of football.
Speaker 13: I love how he was literally kind of you know,
Speaker 13: not the that all the Division One teams were looking at.
Speaker 13: We had a coaching staff, you know, the last one
Speaker 13: that actually could pick out talent. They didn't care about
Speaker 13: his size. They just said, hey, look at that dude's
Speaker 13: a ballplayer. Let's give him a shot. He came in
Speaker 13: and he made you know, he made his imprint on
Speaker 13: the team. So I'm happy to have him exactly.
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean he had a chip on his shoulder.
Speaker 4: I mean, the kid had a chip on the shoulder.
Speaker 4: And and you know that's the you know, most dangerous
Speaker 4: football player that has a chip on their shoulder. He
Speaker 4: came in with a chip on his shoulder. He didn't
Speaker 4: start when he first got here, so he wanted to
Speaker 4: be out on the field. And again, he's he's a
Speaker 4: he's a student of the game. He's a coach on
Speaker 4: the field. I mean he understands every position that's on
Speaker 4: the football field, the front, the middle, as well as
Speaker 4: the back. Lance Riggs, sorry, Lance Briggs, he reminds me
Speaker 4: of that type of a player.
Speaker 2: I mean he does you know, different different buddy, but he.
Speaker 4: Had different body pipe, but he's a kid that knows
Speaker 4: how to get to the football. And Lance was one
Speaker 4: of those that was a gritty football player that played
Speaker 4: between tackle and tackle and found himself getting.
Speaker 3: To the football. So I see a lot of that
Speaker 3: in him when it comes to attacking the ball with
Speaker 3: land Stead.
Speaker 4: But again, you know, it's it's what he does, what
Speaker 4: he does off the football field, watching the film, getting
Speaker 4: himself prepared that way was what's making him the football
Speaker 4: player years right now.
Speaker 13: Yeah, and he's about the same height as me. Every
Speaker 13: time I get above two twenty, my knee started hurting.
Speaker 13: All that other stuff. He carries the way well, and
Speaker 13: he shows up and he's not afraid to put his
Speaker 13: face in the fan.
Speaker 3: And a true leader too, because everyone's following this.
Speaker 2: So for both of you, do you, guys, when you
Speaker 2: go to the game, because I know you do, do
Speaker 2: you watch that position specifically or do you eventually just
Speaker 2: watch the game and see the game? You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Because you guys.
Speaker 4: Were linebackers, Well, I mean I watch more on the
Speaker 4: other side of the ball. You know, I kind of
Speaker 4: look through the defense and check out the offense. I
Speaker 4: have found myself looking more of the understanding of the
Speaker 4: offensive line in the defensive line because I didn't pay
Speaker 4: much attention to that. And then naturally, once the ball
Speaker 4: in the air, your head is going wherever the ball
Speaker 4: is at that point in time. I mean, so you
Speaker 4: see a glance of different players and whatnot that's playing
Speaker 4: the game. But I try to try to keep my
Speaker 4: focus on the offensive line, defensive lining, and from that point.
Speaker 3: I'm following the ball.
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's like watching film all over again. You're trying
Speaker 13: to pick up tips of where they're going to run
Speaker 13: the ball or what they're going to try to do
Speaker 13: to the defense, and then the very first thing that
Speaker 13: you think about is what the hell will we do
Speaker 13: in that situation? So I kind of read through the
Speaker 13: lines as well. I try to pick up throughout the game,
Speaker 13: just little things that they give you, and then you know,
Speaker 13: as soon as the ball snaps, I go ahead and
Speaker 13: I say, okay, what's Mod'm doing? So kind of the
Speaker 13: same thing, just go back to the film.
Speaker 4: Room, Jake, do you ever find yourself when you're sitting there,
Speaker 4: you're watching the game, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 4: you see a certain formation something pop up, and you
Speaker 4: know what that play is automatically.
Speaker 13: Yeah, there are some like I mean, you know, remember
Speaker 13: like you know, back when Harbaugh was there and Shaw
Speaker 13: was over at Stanford, I could call out every single
Speaker 13: damn play because they didn't care exactly what you were doing.
Speaker 13: They were going to try to run over you, or
Speaker 13: they were gonna split all their big guys out, or
Speaker 13: they were gonna, you know, do a shift where all
Speaker 13: the tight ends we're gonna come back into the box
Speaker 13: and just try to run you over. If you have
Speaker 13: like your Nickel package out there Oregon, you know, they
Speaker 13: were kind of the same. You know, even under Chip
Speaker 13: Kelly and Helfrish, you knew what they were gonna run.
Speaker 13: They were just gonna do a fast up tempo. Some
Speaker 13: of these other teams where it's a little bit more methodic,
Speaker 13: you know, it's a little harder to depict, but you know,
Speaker 13: depending on what the team is and who the coach is, Yeah,
Speaker 13: I could kind of count exactly what they're gonna do.
Speaker 3: It's amazing.
Speaker 2: So let me let me ask you, because guys, like
Speaker 2: when we watch a game, we watch a game, you know,
Speaker 2: right down the places, blah blah blah, tell people what happens.
Speaker 2: But is it is it fun because you guys aren't
Speaker 2: because are fans, but you guys are watching it differently
Speaker 2: than normal people.
Speaker 4: If that's the case, well, I mean again, it's I
Speaker 4: think it's only fun right now? Is a wild get
Speaker 4: to me if we're winning. I mean that if I'm
Speaker 4: watching the game and we don't win, It's not.
Speaker 3: Fun on that aspect of it, you know.
Speaker 4: So again, if I'm if I'm watching the game, I'm
Speaker 4: resolving looking at something and trying to get an understanding
Speaker 4: what's taking place.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I have this recall sometime and I can see a line,
Speaker 4: a wide receiver line in a certain place, a tight
Speaker 4: end line, and a certain pace just because of the
Speaker 4: way he's placed on the field in his alignment, I
Speaker 4: can tell you what type of route he's running, you know,
Speaker 4: And those kids should be able to do the same thing,
Speaker 4: because there's only you know, certain routes you run out
Speaker 4: of a tree as far as a route tree, and
Speaker 4: it depends on where you lined up on the football
Speaker 4: field that's going to determine that route that you're running
Speaker 4: in that tree.
Speaker 3: And I'm hoping, I pray.
Speaker 4: That that's what they're teaching these kids, these basic fundamentals
Speaker 4: like that, you know. So, I mean there's times that
Speaker 4: that I can sit there and look at the attitude
Speaker 4: of a player and see if he's gonna be in
Speaker 4: that play or not, because there's some guys that are
Speaker 4: lining up just his demeanor he gets to the line
Speaker 4: of scrimmags come out to and he's not part of
Speaker 4: the play, so he's not going to do anything to
Speaker 4: be effective in the Actually, Jake, Yeah.
Speaker 13: It's fun now because I mean, I mean, rich Rod
Speaker 13: was a hell of a coach, but the talent upgrade
Speaker 13: ever since, you know, the last guys came in and
Speaker 13: to now the talent upgrade, it makes it really fun
Speaker 13: because now you have a potential All American at like
Speaker 13: four or five different positions. You know, they're going to
Speaker 13: compete and then you know, like what we were saying before,
Speaker 13: you could tell if somebody is ready to play. You know,
Speaker 13: if you got a corner that keeps getting beat and
Speaker 13: keeps hanging his head, it's like, well they're just going
Speaker 13: to pick on him all day. Why the hell, you know,
Speaker 13: why would I be watching this guy? So with the
Speaker 13: upgrading talent and makes that a hell of a lot
Speaker 13: more fun. Having a guy that can legitimately be in
Speaker 13: the Heisman conversation that quarterback is going to make it
Speaker 13: even more fun. You know, hope the defense is ready
Speaker 13: to you know, kind of do what they did last year,
Speaker 13: especially the last four or five games with all those
Speaker 13: top twenty five teams that they were doing, with the
Speaker 13: exception of Colorado, where they're flying around the ball knocking
Speaker 13: the hell out of people. And you know, with Dwayne
Speaker 13: King at the helm, I'm looking for more blitzing. So
Speaker 13: I'm gonna have some fun this year.
Speaker 2: So so I've said this for a few months now,
Speaker 2: after seeing Timac, you know, for two years now. If
Speaker 2: he does play this year and plays really really well
Speaker 2: and doesn't get hurt, I'll say that he'll be and
Speaker 2: he'll end up his career as the best player to
Speaker 2: ever play here. All due respect to your brother and
Speaker 2: some of the older guys that played before him, But
Speaker 2: I love the way he plays. I don't know what
Speaker 2: you guys think, but I just love the way he
Speaker 2: plays well.
Speaker 4: I mean he does, I mean, and the reason being
Speaker 4: because he plays offense and and most people that you
Speaker 4: know don't understand the game of football. They think, you know,
Speaker 4: you in the end zone, offense rules and you score
Speaker 4: and that's the greatest thing in the world. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 4: but you know, a defensive player can have such a
Speaker 4: great impact on the game, in my opinion, you know,
Speaker 4: more than an offensive player. Because I keep you on
Speaker 4: the end zone, you can't win.
Speaker 2: Well, that statement the people that the guys who have
Speaker 2: played throughout the University of Arizona throw defensive players all
Speaker 2: the good all the known players are these your brother
Speaker 2: Chuck the brush Wald, there's name an offensive player that
Speaker 2: you can kind of rattle off. Uh, you know, but
Speaker 2: we guess who drives the Cadillacs the defensive guy.
Speaker 4: But but but I do I mean in regards to
Speaker 4: I have strong belief in that kid. And TC, I
Speaker 4: mean I think t mac is is he's our guy.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's our guy that's going to you know,
Speaker 4: make the difference as far as win and losses throughout
Speaker 4: the year. And and I hope he has a great
Speaker 4: impact year and outstanding year and break all the Bobby
Speaker 4: Way's records and get drafted in the first round and
Speaker 4: hopefully you get drafted higher than backing Jake.
Speaker 2: Would you agree with me or temper that a little?
Speaker 13: It's a little different for me because he has so
Speaker 13: many damn good defensive players that have come to view
Speaker 13: of a and it's you know, we've had some some
Speaker 13: very well known folks on the offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 13: But you know, when you think about guys like Ron
Speaker 13: CASKI who I think you know, obviously his career got
Speaker 13: cut short here at the U of A because of
Speaker 13: injury issues. But then you have guys like Nicholes, who
Speaker 13: has won a Super Bowl MVP. I want a receiver
Speaker 13: or you know, an offensive lineman to come out and
Speaker 13: just be one of those guys that's in the top
Speaker 13: you know, one hundred all time in the NFL. And
Speaker 13: this guy, I mean six four obviously he's probably around
Speaker 13: like a four four five, a four five. He's not,
Speaker 13: you know, a burner. But if he can get his
Speaker 13: routes crisp, I mean, he already has all the god
Speaker 13: given talent to be, you know, an all world receiver
Speaker 13: at the next level if he has a great year
Speaker 13: and as long as you know, obviously he continues to
Speaker 13: get coached up, which from everything that I've heard, the
Speaker 13: dude is a workhorse and he does whatever you tell him.
Speaker 13: And he's got a great work you know, like a
Speaker 13: great attitude when it comes to you know, showing up
Speaker 13: to practice, doing what he needs to do. Guys a
Speaker 13: limit for him, you know, I want some more offensive guys.
Speaker 13: We have plenty of defensive guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they're doing the ball now on Jake, So
Speaker 3: it should happen. Brother, Let go one. It should happen.
Speaker 13: Man.
Speaker 3: They got the right guys over there throwing getting it
Speaker 3: down the field.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you a question before you came on.
Speaker 2: What's more important, Uh, talent on a team or the
Speaker 2: coach on a team? I'm going personal, not one you
Speaker 2: because already, oh my.
Speaker 13: Goodness, Uh, to be honest with you, the leader of
Speaker 13: the team, the coach. I mean, it all starts with him,
Speaker 13: you know what I mean. So, I mean, you can
Speaker 13: have as much talent as you want. Those the four
Speaker 13: Bowl games that we went to every year, we had
Speaker 13: plenty of talent, but we only got to you know,
Speaker 13: eight wins. So if you have a coach there to
Speaker 13: set the foundation to get the right players there with
Speaker 13: the right mindset that are rolling to work, it's guy's
Speaker 13: a limit. So I think the guys at the helm,
Speaker 13: I think the guys that are supposed to be there
Speaker 13: to be the leaders to build a foundation are a
Speaker 13: little bit more important than just having talent.
Speaker 2: See, and I want to.
Speaker 3: Lean that way, but but but you guys are saying
Speaker 3: the same thing.
Speaker 4: Okay, to me, talent is the players that's going up,
Speaker 4: and that's gonna be out there gonna dominate. They always
Speaker 4: gonna win, They're gonna want to win, and all of
Speaker 4: that stuff becomes coatagious. The next guy beside me, he's
Speaker 4: gonna he's gonna feed off on that. So if I
Speaker 4: got a talented roster, those guys gonna go out there
Speaker 4: with the mentality that I'm gonna dominate.
Speaker 3: They already winning, well, they're winning automatic.
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, there's no right or wrong answer, right,
Speaker 2: And it's kind of the chicken of the egg thing
Speaker 2: which came first. But also I've seen some talented teams,
Speaker 2: but that didn't chill up.
Speaker 3: I seen the well coached team.
Speaker 13: I think it's one of those things where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 13: you can't have a good team without one or the other.
Speaker 13: But if we're like, if we're gonna, you know, start
Speaker 13: a program, the foundation is going to be the coach
Speaker 13: who he brings in, you know, the attitude, the work ethic,
Speaker 13: all that stuff. I've seen some talented guys that are
Speaker 13: just out of nowhere, like they just flop, and it
Speaker 13: really just annoys because I'm like, I wasn't given all
Speaker 13: the guy getting the talent that this guy has, but
Speaker 13: I'm ahead of him. On the up chart, and then
Speaker 13: all of a sudden, after you know, halfway through a
Speaker 13: sophomore year, he transfers out and he never plays again. Like,
Speaker 13: that's the type of stuff that I saw when I
Speaker 13: was at the o Van. It really annoyed the hell
Speaker 13: out of me.
Speaker 3: Right, I'm sure you did too, Yeah, yeah, it goes
Speaker 3: with the territory. Yeah, hey, Jake, you probably ran one
Speaker 3: on out with your with your level play, right?
Speaker 13: Is that again?
Speaker 3: Who who was the linebackers when you was playing there?
Speaker 13: Bro? Oh shoot? My freshman year, I didn't have to
Speaker 13: do anything because we had a we had uh Sterlow,
Speaker 13: we had X and we had Vuna. And then my
Speaker 13: sophomore year it was me, Paul the solo and Derek Earls.
Speaker 13: And then junior year it was me and just a
Speaker 13: caroustyle of other people because everyone was getting injured and
Speaker 13: we were all beat up. And and then my senior
Speaker 13: year Stoovie was a freshman and then there was Marquise
Speaker 13: next to me.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, now what kind of front did you guys run?
Speaker 13: Oh? Well, we ran a four front with Stoops and
Speaker 13: then we ran a three three five with rich Rod,
Speaker 13: and my junior year with the three because we did
Speaker 13: not have the horses up front. I was getting hit at,
Speaker 13: you know, at least two or three times every damn
Speaker 13: play and I was only like two five playing against
Speaker 13: that linebacker.
Speaker 3: Safety.
Speaker 13: We had bigger guys, you know, they came back from
Speaker 13: injury from the last year and they were rock solids.
Speaker 13: So Senior was much more you know, it was a
Speaker 13: lot easier per se than it was Junior.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Jake, thanks for joining us. This is fun.
Speaker 13: Thank you all right, Jakeley, Thank you guys to stop.
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Speaker 2: Wham Hey, welcome back to I and the Ball here
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Speaker 3: At least in this hour.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you a
Speaker 2: new job titleed them.
Speaker 3: Up, your your dragon paid.
Speaker 2: You will get no not with me, of course, but
Speaker 2: you're you're no longer a business owner. You are the
Speaker 2: new ad at the University of Arizona. How would you?
Speaker 2: And basketball doesn't need to be fixed. It has a
Speaker 2: love affair with a lot of fifteen thousand people going
Speaker 2: there to watch whatever and then, and they do a
Speaker 2: good job of it right and have for Tommy for
Speaker 2: a while. Now, how would you fix the fan I'll
Speaker 2: say fan problem in Tucson because there I'm sure in
Speaker 2: the good years when they won, they showed up. But
Speaker 2: but it's more than that. You need them all the time.
Speaker 2: How are you going to fix that? You're the new
Speaker 2: a D What what's the secret?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think it goes back as far
Speaker 3: as before you got here, probably, yeah, go back. Well
Speaker 3: when I got here, I mean, I think the stadium
Speaker 3: was pretty packed.
Speaker 4: But but but if I reminisce in the stadium, I
Speaker 4: can recall there was a certain section of the stadium
Speaker 4: that was the north end zone, which is you know
Speaker 4: where the practice field the actual locker rooms are right now.
Speaker 4: It was aluminum seat that was there in the north
Speaker 4: end zone. And that area was in my time, was
Speaker 4: called the not hole.
Speaker 2: So I thought that was the south side.
Speaker 3: They had it on the north side before before the movie.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I didn't know.
Speaker 4: So that area was recognized. It's a nothole section. And
Speaker 4: and we as as a as a as a team,
Speaker 4: we always practiced in the north inZone, warmed up in
Speaker 4: the northenzo and linebackers particularly with being in the offen zone.
Speaker 4: And I can recall, I mean, you know, hundreds of
Speaker 4: kids out there yelling and screaming because they want to
Speaker 4: be a part of you, They want to touch you, give, give,
Speaker 4: give whatever you got back in that day, I couldn't
Speaker 4: give you nothing, you know. They was giving me nothing
Speaker 4: to keep everything ahead. So but anyway, what I'm going
Speaker 4: at is that you had these kids that that that picture,
Speaker 4: that image was rooted in their mind, that that they
Speaker 4: basically wanted to be a part of this, okay. And
Speaker 4: the only way those kids could be a part of
Speaker 4: this naturally their parents had to bring them there.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: So some kind of way back in the day, they
Speaker 4: got these type of kids there. So if I'm coming forward,
Speaker 4: I would say, as an a d I would go
Speaker 4: to communities and find families that maybe had one or two, three,
Speaker 4: four or five kids, doesn't matter, and get those kids
Speaker 4: back in that in that stadium. They packed that stadium
Speaker 4: with these young kids. And then I'm not saying is
Speaker 4: going to happen this year or the next year, but
Speaker 4: future years, those kids are gonna become adults, you know,
Speaker 4: and those kids are basically becoming wildcats. Fans sell the experience,
Speaker 4: give it, sell it to them, and then they're gonna
Speaker 4: sell it to their parents and give it to their kids.
Speaker 3: But they have kids.
Speaker 2: The one thing, the one thing that I think is
Speaker 2: the kids. And you can you can say, what do
Speaker 2: you want to say? The kids don't have the money.
Speaker 2: It's not in their pocket, so they're gonna maybe buy
Speaker 2: a hot dog if they have I don't know have
Speaker 2: hot dogs costs anymore? In that building. They ain't gonna
Speaker 2: buy a beer, right, there are bouts of nachos or whatever.
Speaker 2: So they'll spend somebody that way if they can afford it. So,
Speaker 2: so that's been gone like twenty some years. I would assume, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: at least you have butts in the seats, right, and
Speaker 2: maybe a fan, maybe a parent or two.
Speaker 4: But I'm not looking just butts in the seats for
Speaker 4: this year if I'm the ad right, oh okay, I'm
Speaker 4: looking at butts in the seats for extended years because
Speaker 4: it has to become a tageous a cultural thing for
Speaker 4: each community. I mean, a lot of kids, a lot
Speaker 4: of families that's in Tucson, stay in Tucson, you know,
Speaker 4: so they have babies, you know, and they have kids,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: So now I'm talking about, well, you got three four generations.
Speaker 4: Walking into the stadiums that's buying tickets, right or to
Speaker 4: come into your stadium.
Speaker 2: Well, let me go there, because we have somebody in
Speaker 2: the room who's a generational guy. You right, you're your
Speaker 2: guy so we know that Tucson is is a transitory place.
Speaker 2: People come from all over I hope that's right, from Iowa,
Speaker 2: from uh So they come here. They have no attachment
Speaker 2: to the school because they didn't govern here. They're from
Speaker 2: somewhere else and they work for Rayta and they went
Speaker 2: to some of the school. I don't want to go
Speaker 2: the game. I can watch my team on TV. But
Speaker 2: you one, you have your you're born and raised here,
Speaker 2: you love the sports. In your family and maybe extended family,
Speaker 2: How many go and do they have that love fair
Speaker 2: love affair.
Speaker 15: For the most part, it's just me and my immediate
Speaker 15: family that've been going for years, but especially with this
Speaker 15: last year, with us being so success, we were able
Speaker 15: to get extra tickets and give it to extended family
Speaker 15: and they fell in love with it. You know, have
Speaker 15: little cousins now that way outside of the locker room
Speaker 15: waiting for t Mac, waiting for Plafeita.
Speaker 2: So that's to your point.
Speaker 15: And so it translated into this year where they have
Speaker 15: tickets now they're ready to go for this year.
Speaker 2: There you are, I mean there, it's a it's a
Speaker 2: little point, but it's a big point.
Speaker 3: And how many families like one's family this year in Tucson.
Speaker 4: That basically can do the same thing and give that
Speaker 4: same experience, you know, to their kids or their cousins,
Speaker 4: their nephews.
Speaker 2: So do you think the target market is maybe a
Speaker 2: little skew their target market?
Speaker 4: Well, I can't say it's skew because they got to
Speaker 4: chase the dollars. I mean, you have to go out
Speaker 4: of the dollars, but you got to kind of figure
Speaker 4: out some kind of way you know, of getting you know, again,
Speaker 4: these families that want to be there and encourage them
Speaker 4: to have experience they haven't had that experience, and give
Speaker 4: them an opportunity to be there, so it could become
Speaker 4: a and and and and maybe this year had happened
Speaker 4: and I first got here, I don't know, and the
Speaker 4: stadium could be full at this point. But it does
Speaker 4: I think it, you know, And I said this earlier.
Speaker 4: It reminds me of the teams or the schools that's
Speaker 4: been doing this for a year, the Gods, the Floridas,
Speaker 4: the Alabamas, the schools in the SECS and North Carolina's.
Speaker 4: I mean, those schools may got families that's been coming
Speaker 4: for generations and that games, you know, and and you know,
Speaker 4: and I understand, we got we we do have a
Speaker 4: community that's probably got more higher state and you know,
Speaker 4: Michigan people fans here than Arizona fans, you know, and
Speaker 4: those are people that can write that check. But let's
Speaker 4: get these fans that maybe can't write the check now,
Speaker 4: but in future they can't.
Speaker 2: I think I totally agree with you. I mean, it'll help.
Speaker 2: The one thing that solves a lot of issues. Gonna win.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's contagious, but but you know what that
Speaker 4: look kid who's sinning out at the end of the
Speaker 4: game waiting for TMAC for for fear and all these
Speaker 4: kids to come to them, You you really care that
Speaker 4: they care about if they won or lost the game. No,
Speaker 4: they cares about that. I got to see T Mac,
Speaker 4: I got to touch t Mac.
Speaker 3: I got to carry this. This is kid, I mean,
Speaker 3: he's a businessman here in town.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: It is named Ben Ben Fernandez. And Ben was one
Speaker 4: of those not host kids when I was.
Speaker 2: In school here.
Speaker 3: He was one of those kids would come up.
Speaker 4: To Ricky and I and and other guys and let
Speaker 4: me carry your helmet, let me put your shoulder pass on,
Speaker 4: let me because at that time we'll walk from the
Speaker 4: stadium into Michel and he'll walk with us into Michale
Speaker 4: to our locker room because he had the opportunity to
Speaker 4: put our ham and on, put that uniform on, and
Speaker 4: and that kid he has kids that he has introduced
Speaker 4: us to at this point. So it's that type of
Speaker 4: lifetime experience that he enjoyed. It wasn't about the wins
Speaker 4: and the losses. It was about that experience and having
Speaker 4: that opportunity.
Speaker 2: That's putty what you would you you like that as
Speaker 2: a twelve year old when you started watching.
Speaker 15: Like way for yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I was. I
Speaker 15: was like, I was a kid that liked to rush
Speaker 15: the field. I did that my first year when I went.
Speaker 15: So it was it's those type of experiences that you
Speaker 15: it's a kid, You're like, wow, that was fun, Let's
Speaker 15: do it again. And I've been I've tried to sell
Speaker 15: that to my family for years now. Arizona hold up
Speaker 15: the end of the bargain until this year. You know,
Speaker 15: they got the rest.
Speaker 2: Ofhill three times and well they they felt excellent. I
Speaker 2: don't know how your your job. I know your business obviously,
Speaker 2: Uh it's core. Is it more corporate? Is it local. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is local and you sell the locals, right or whatever.
Speaker 2: So this this this place, the University of Arizona. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna speak. I'm out of turn here. I'm on
Speaker 2: this show. So it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 3: What do I know.
Speaker 2: Uh, it's changed, it's changed in the last fifteen years.
Speaker 2: It went from a cozy place under Live and good
Speaker 2: and and and uh the previous ad got I don't
Speaker 2: know why. I can't no no no, that he was
Speaker 2: after Greg kind of turned it into a corporate type
Speaker 2: of thing. It was business business because they had to
Speaker 2: get money, but it was under life, but it was
Speaker 2: it was a it was a family kind of bring
Speaker 2: you in and central Dempsey got help me. And those
Speaker 2: maybe have been the good old days and maybe maybe
Speaker 2: maybe r f D. You know what it was. It
Speaker 2: was Opie and Andy and it was and now it's
Speaker 2: it's corporate and you gotta do this. And that was
Speaker 2: the landscape of the whole but you don't have to
Speaker 2: go there completely.
Speaker 4: But that was the landscape of the whole country. Though
Speaker 4: I mean, well you don't. I don't think anything changed.
Speaker 4: It just got bigger across the landscape.
Speaker 2: But to your point, it's got to become more family.
Speaker 4: I agree with that, but but there's the family is
Speaker 4: still there, but they but they have to still chase
Speaker 4: that dolls.
Speaker 2: Okay, there's your problem. Yeah, you're chasing chasing, You're going
Speaker 2: to eliminate some family, you know. I mean the good
Speaker 2: thing is at least I mean when when it comes
Speaker 2: to family. You do see that when it comes to
Speaker 2: the players and the coaches and things like that, for sure.
Speaker 2: And you know the point that you was making earlier
Speaker 2: one in regards to going and see these kids and
Speaker 2: being able to touch them. They make themselves, you know, available,
Speaker 2: They make themselves. I think they make themselves more available
Speaker 2: now than ever before, as they should as well.
Speaker 4: Not only should, but they want to because you know,
Speaker 4: this is the social media stuff and that they want.
Speaker 3: So they are. I mean, they're more available than I
Speaker 3: think than ever before. In the parents.
Speaker 2: I know, we've talked about this before and I brought
Speaker 2: the n Do you like it?
Speaker 5: Not like it?
Speaker 3: You have to live with it.
Speaker 4: I don't like it, but I deal with it because
Speaker 4: I mean, first or foremost, it is something that that
Speaker 4: the kids need. It need to be managed better than
Speaker 4: still than what it is this time with sure and
Speaker 4: who knows that that's going to take place or not,
Speaker 4: because it is wild wild West. In regards to you,
Speaker 4: I mean, you got all different people or elements are
Speaker 4: chasing after these kids, and you know, letting the kids
Speaker 4: know how good and great they are. And maybe some
Speaker 4: of them not good and great, but you instilled you
Speaker 4: can get all this money over here and let me
Speaker 4: do it for you whatever the.
Speaker 3: Situation may be.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: And I'm not opposed at all as far as a
Speaker 4: kid going out there and selling his lackness.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's up to the university to sell
Speaker 3: that kid's lackness.
Speaker 2: I think it's up to the kids, right, And that
Speaker 2: originally that was the idea, wasn't this posed it? And
Speaker 2: not anymore, not anymore.
Speaker 4: You know, and and and you know, and there are
Speaker 4: some kids that's that's here. This university is doing a
Speaker 4: great job, you know. And and and you're gonna see
Speaker 4: those are gonna be our leaders tomorrow.
Speaker 2: So you kind of joked that you kept your stuff
Speaker 2: your your hand, your hands, your straps because they didn't
Speaker 2: give you much, right was I'm sure there was a
Speaker 2: time or two when you worked your ass off in
Speaker 2: eighty three, eighty four whatever you got here, you're thinking, God,
Speaker 2: I wish I could dream of making some money because
Speaker 2: I don't have enough money to do whatever you wanted
Speaker 2: to do. Right, did you think about it?
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, I mean you always think about ways of
Speaker 4: you know, well, it was it was different levels as
Speaker 4: far as you know that you need money for this,
Speaker 4: this and that, and you know, from gas to food
Speaker 4: to whoever. Sure, sure, you know, I mean that's not
Speaker 4: issues for these kids in the world. No, and you know,
Speaker 4: and then you know, you you you had the opportunity
Speaker 4: maybe to have a summer job and things like that.
Speaker 4: The kids don't do that, no work, right, you know,
Speaker 4: they basically go to summer school and get paid for
Speaker 4: summer school. But you know, again, you know, I'm not
Speaker 4: mad at them. I want if I was in those shoes,
Speaker 4: in their shoes, I'll try to get everything I could
Speaker 4: get to and who knows, maybe I'd be a million dollars.
Speaker 2: You know, you maybe half amilion, your brother maybe a
Speaker 2: million dollar. Guys.
Speaker 3: Hey, it's in the family.
Speaker 2: You're born. You're born forty years too late.
Speaker 4: That's right, And you know that's the way we got
Speaker 4: to look at it. It's boring, too late. And let
Speaker 4: those get in there. Those that can get it, keep
Speaker 4: on getting it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bless and you're a business where you know you
Speaker 2: have revenue and you have expenses. Arizona is in debt
Speaker 2: for X amount of whatever. Now every school has to
Speaker 2: pay twenty one twenty men. Where do you find that
Speaker 2: if you don't have.
Speaker 4: It, well, I guess there's a some goal underneath these
Speaker 4: underneath this desert somewhere. They have no idea where they're gonna.
Speaker 2: So you want to resign in the job I just
Speaker 2: gave you as the a D I'm done.
Speaker 3: I'm done. But you know what, But but obviously that
Speaker 3: money is somewhere to be found. That's gonna have to
Speaker 3: it has to be otherwise they closing. I mean they
Speaker 3: can closure. It's the game down. They're gonna close sports
Speaker 3: down right.
Speaker 4: So obviously, I mean when they when they got into
Speaker 4: this thing, they have some kind of idea.
Speaker 3: Not only the University Arizona, but.
Speaker 4: The n C two A and whoever institute the instituted
Speaker 4: this rule. As far as what's gotta be, obviously there
Speaker 4: is a game plan, you know. So you know, again,
Speaker 4: you got some smart guys up in that in that tower.
Speaker 4: They're telling you this is the format we're gonna follow.
Speaker 4: There has to be a game plan in order to
Speaker 4: make it out.
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because I think you know him, Coach
Speaker 2: Bush of smart dude, smart man, uh, and he thinks
Speaker 2: maybe eventually that the NCAA ends, it goes bankrupt and
Speaker 2: they have to start over with some kind of semblance
Speaker 2: of order. Because you're right, it's it has continues to
Speaker 2: be the wild, wild West, and the plans they have,
Speaker 2: no one knows what those are exactly.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, when you first throw it out there,
Speaker 4: you know, pack of wolves to chase after, and that's
Speaker 4: what took place, and everybody's just on that same bone.
Speaker 4: And the ones that get there first is the ones
Speaker 4: that's going to really benefit from it and stuff. And
Speaker 4: maybe that's that has to be the case. Let's just
Speaker 4: break this thing up, and hell, I mean, maybe the
Speaker 4: conferences to do their own things right, you know, and
Speaker 4: run their home. But you just gotta again, you have
Speaker 4: to have somebody there in regards to you know, have
Speaker 4: some kind of guidance on the compliance and things.
Speaker 3: So you know, maybe that could be your.
Speaker 2: I'm too old to do with that stuff. Okay, we're
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