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Speaker 2: That's right, we're back coffee and company after an nice
Speaker 2: week off. Happy to be back with you guys here
Speaker 2: as we get set for the final college basketball game
Speaker 2: of the season, and it should be a great game
Speaker 2: that I don't know. I've said that many times throughout,
Speaker 2: but I know the chalky run we've had here in
Speaker 2: the tournament is not what a lot of people prefer.
Speaker 2: They want Cinderella, they want to be surprised, I guessed,
Speaker 2: and I get it. I just think, though, if you
Speaker 2: put yourself into my shoes, and maybe some of you
Speaker 2: are in my shoes and you agree, but if not,
Speaker 2: I just I love college basketball so much that even
Speaker 2: when I don't have a team, that I'm really gonna
Speaker 2: have a vested interest in winning or losing it, because
Speaker 2: there can be both sides of it. Meaning if it's
Speaker 2: your team, hell yeah, Like that's an insane thing, right
Speaker 2: to have your team in the final four with a
Speaker 2: chance to maybe win the whole thing. But then there's
Speaker 2: sometimes you know, the villain. The early stages of Caliperi
Speaker 2: and Lexington right, Like, we had rooting interest every year
Speaker 2: he was there, and it was such a nice payoff
Speaker 2: when they, you know, would somehow not make it to
Speaker 2: the final four or would lose to teams that you
Speaker 2: know you never expected to beat them. So I don't
Speaker 2: have any real rooting interest tonight. So I'm just hoping
Speaker 2: for a game and I feel like, looking at these
Speaker 2: two teams as it stands right now, man, this should
Speaker 2: be a phenomenal matchup. I think the one point spread
Speaker 2: in favor of Houston makes it. I'm sorry, in favor
Speaker 2: of Florida makes sense. But really nothing would shock me
Speaker 2: when it comes to who ends this game. The only
Speaker 2: thing that would really shock me is if it's like
Speaker 2: a blowout. I really don't I really don't see that happening.
Speaker 2: And I'll be honest with you, I have a hot take.
Speaker 2: If somebody gets blown out, I think it'd be Florida.
Speaker 2: I just don't think you can blow Houston out. Not
Speaker 2: because they're just insane. I mean, they are really good,
Speaker 2: but they're just like they're they're too tough. I mean,
Speaker 2: there aren't many teams that would be hanging around that
Speaker 2: late in the boxing match. If you will against Duke
Speaker 2: and still be you know, sticking to who they are
Speaker 2: and what they do and just giving themselves a sliver
Speaker 2: of hope of fighting chance. And that's exactly what they did.
Speaker 2: And I know a lot of it, understandably so has
Speaker 2: been about how to Duke collapse like that, and I
Speaker 2: get it. I mean, it's still kind of unreal to
Speaker 2: And by the way, I'll admit I fell asleep. I'd
Speaker 2: been in a car all day trying to get home
Speaker 2: and we couldn't make it home. We stopped in Bowling Green,
Speaker 2: and I'm pretty sure when I had turned off the
Speaker 2: TV to just roll over and go to bed. I mean,
Speaker 2: there wasn't really any feeling as if Duke would lose that, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, you had a sixty seven to sixty one
Speaker 2: lead with thirty seven seconds left, and I was asleep
Speaker 2: before that because I think they were down like fourteen
Speaker 2: or so under. Was it under eight? Maybe it sounds wrong,
Speaker 2: but maybe it was, because again it was a crazy,
Speaker 2: crazy collapse. But I think it had more to do
Speaker 2: with Houston than it did Duke. I really do. And
Speaker 2: I'm not here to defend Duke, because I get it.
Speaker 2: We all win when Duke loses unless you're somehow a
Speaker 2: Duke fan. Don't know how that happens unless you went
Speaker 2: to school there. But the I mean Duke not scoring
Speaker 2: other than one field goal was in the last ten
Speaker 2: minutes like that, that's probably the biggest factor than anything
Speaker 2: that this game. Like. But Houston did that right, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't think Duke was out here crumbling. You got
Speaker 2: to keep in mind, nobody would have I'm sure it
Speaker 2: was mentioned on the broadcast. I shouldn't say that nobody
Speaker 2: would have noticed it, But the crazy stat of one
Speaker 2: field goal being made in the last ten minutes for Duke.
Speaker 2: The reason that got talked about way more after the
Speaker 2: fact than it did during the game was because obviously
Speaker 2: how it finished. But that's Houston, right, Like they stuck
Speaker 2: with who they did and I still didn't think they had,
Speaker 2: you know, enough firepower to actually get it done. But
Speaker 2: they were tough and they stayed the course. They're veterans,
Speaker 2: they I mean, they're clearly very well coached, and I
Speaker 2: just think Houston's ability to stay locked in, never waiver,
Speaker 2: trust their process, trust their identity, and just give themselves
Speaker 2: a teeny tiny chance late. I mean, that was them
Speaker 2: more than I think it was Duke collapsing, because cause,
Speaker 2: if you really think about it, what was Duke's biggest mistake?
Speaker 2: I mean, Proctor missed the free throws, obviously, there was
Speaker 2: a questionable call obviously on Cooper flag that was a
Speaker 2: factor in it, the turnover on the inbounds play. So
Speaker 2: it's not like they they you know, this was just
Speaker 2: just an incredible run that Houston put together and Duke
Speaker 2: had not. Duke couldn't have done anything about it. That's
Speaker 2: not at all what I mean. But I just as
Speaker 2: we get here tonight to the game, I just wish
Speaker 2: there was a little bit more of a damn that's
Speaker 2: that's that's a Houston win because of who they are
Speaker 2: and who they're coached by with Kelvin Samson more than
Speaker 2: it is just to Duke collapse. But I understand Duke
Speaker 2: is a different animal in this sport, right, Like we
Speaker 2: want to sit back and make fun of them for
Speaker 2: collapsing and knock yourself out, I get it, But I
Speaker 2: just I always have had a lot of respect for
Speaker 2: Kelvin Samson, and I think the way his team hung
Speaker 2: in and gave themselves that chance made Duke pay for
Speaker 2: the few mistakes that they made. That's a testament to
Speaker 2: how great they are and really how great of a
Speaker 2: coach they have. I mean, let me give you a
Speaker 2: crazy and you may have already seen this, but this
Speaker 2: is in the first time they've done something like this.
Speaker 2: They were down fifty nine to forty five in that
Speaker 2: game to Duke so Yes, eight to seventeen left right
Speaker 2: before the under eight timeout. They were down that right
Speaker 2: around time I fell a sleep, they were down fifty
Speaker 2: nine to forty five, fourteen points. I mean, that's insane.
Speaker 2: They also won a game earlier this year where they
Speaker 2: were in Lawrence, Kansas and overtime they're down seventy nine
Speaker 2: to seventy three. They're down six points with eleven seconds
Speaker 2: left in overtime. They came back and one. I mean,
Speaker 2: think about this. They knocked off the postseason number one team,
Speaker 2: the Duke Blue Devils, and they knocked off the preseason
Speaker 2: ap number one team on the road in Kansas. And again,
Speaker 2: I know, the win over Kansas doesn't really seem I mean,
Speaker 2: clearly Houston was clearly better than Kansas all year. But
Speaker 2: my point is in those moments against those kind of teams,
Speaker 2: in those environments, they still stick with who they are,
Speaker 2: and I just think that's always going to keep them
Speaker 2: in games for the most part. And that's why I
Speaker 2: feel like highly unlikely we get any kind of blowout tonight,
Speaker 2: but if we do, I wouldn't be stunned if it's
Speaker 2: Houston that gets that does the blowing out just because
Speaker 2: they're not gonna hurt themselves quite enough now they just
Speaker 2: simply can't make shots and they can't stop Florida. Then
Speaker 2: maybe that's the recipe where it gets ugly the other way.
Speaker 2: But I think it's gonna be a competitive game. And
Speaker 2: I said at the beginning of the show, it really
Speaker 2: comes down to Walter Clayton Junior for me as far
Speaker 2: as why. I just think Florida's going to be able
Speaker 2: to get it done. But he's also going to be
Speaker 2: going against the defense. That there's any defense that could
Speaker 2: potentially slow him down and keep him from maybe making
Speaker 2: tough shots like he has in this tournament. Maybe even
Speaker 2: Houston would be that team. But I think he's shown
Speaker 2: his ability, meaning Walter Clayton Junior, for Florida to hit
Speaker 2: shots that like you can't defend better than some of
Speaker 2: these opponents have defended. And he's just insane. I mean
Speaker 2: he's he's that good. And Kelvin Sampson, I mean he
Speaker 2: has I mean, Houston still is criminally disrespected as a
Speaker 2: program as far as like they don't come to mind
Speaker 2: for anybody they don't like. I mean, they just to me,
Speaker 2: are they boring? I guess they're boring. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean they've done it more so with style and
Speaker 2: disciplined than you know, elite players. Like there's not a
Speaker 2: ton of guys in the NBA that played for Kelvin Sampson,
Speaker 2: and you know there was the knock well when they're
Speaker 2: in the American and that's why they win so many games.
Speaker 2: Two years in the Big twelve, a league that we
Speaker 2: know is great at basketball, they've won with room to
Speaker 2: spare in the regular season and now they won their
Speaker 2: conference tournament and now here they're playing for a national championship.
Speaker 2: So since he was hired in twenty fourteen, Kelvin Sampson,
Speaker 2: I mean, they have a twenty five million dollar practice
Speaker 2: facility that was built, They got a sixty million dollar
Speaker 2: arena upgrade they made. I mean his first NCAA tournament
Speaker 2: win in twenty eighteen was the first fore Houston in
Speaker 2: thirty four years. They had a school record for wins,
Speaker 2: thirty three of them in twenty nineteen. They made a
Speaker 2: final four in twenty twenty one, just four years ago,
Speaker 2: and now they're playing for a national championship. What a
Speaker 2: great run for Kelvin Sampson in Houston and a program
Speaker 2: that used to be I mean, they fell off, and
Speaker 2: they fell hard right like, I'm gonna have to look
Speaker 2: it up because I feel like they're I mean, they
Speaker 2: to me had such a long, irrelevant stretch that despite
Speaker 2: you know, being in the championship game twice in the eighties,
Speaker 2: I mean they went to three final fours in the eighties,
Speaker 2: they went to yeah, three three final fours, three late eights.
Speaker 2: I mean, they were rolling with five slam a jam
Speaker 2: obviously Clyde Drexler, the keem Olajuwan, who of course was
Speaker 2: there on site the other night, which was cool to see.
Speaker 2: But then they just they fell off so hard that
Speaker 2: I don't think they'll ever be Like they could go
Speaker 2: they could win tonight, and they could go to two
Speaker 2: more final fours in the next five years, and I
Speaker 2: still think that they won't be able to kind of,
Speaker 2: you know, really re like it's been so long since
Speaker 2: they were on a roll. And also, you know, like
Speaker 2: people don't remember that. I mean that, I mean I
Speaker 2: wasn't alive for it. I guess this is me showing
Speaker 2: how I guess big of a nerd I am for
Speaker 2: college hoops because I mean, here I am talking about
Speaker 2: Houston back in their heyday when I was I wasn't
Speaker 2: even thought of at the time. But yes, they they
Speaker 2: ended up in the eighties. They made it so in
Speaker 2: eighty four they lost in the championship game to Georgetown.
Speaker 2: The year before that they lost in the championship game
Speaker 2: to n C State. And what year did they beat
Speaker 2: in Louisville? In eighty three they beat Louisville in that
Speaker 2: final four to then go on and lose to n
Speaker 2: C State. But anyways, after that, man, it was a
Speaker 2: hard fall because in eighty seven they made the tournament,
Speaker 2: lost first round, lost in the first round in ninety ninety,
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety two, and then they made the tournament
Speaker 2: in twenty ten. I don't remember that. Don't even know
Speaker 2: who their coach was. Would that have been? Who was
Speaker 2: their coach in twenty ten? It's drive me crazy. But anyways,
Speaker 2: they had a long fall, so they you know, they
Speaker 2: went from going to a national championship game in eighty
Speaker 2: four to not winning a tournament game until twenty eighteen,
Speaker 2: so that you know, and only making the tournament between
Speaker 2: eighty four and twenty eighteen. They only made it five
Speaker 2: times in that stretch and didn't win a game until
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. So that's how you you know, that's how
Speaker 2: you can be a program that's right there kind of building.
Speaker 2: You know, you're starting the foundation and maybe be talked
Speaker 2: about not as a blue blood because you gotta win one.
Speaker 2: But they had some real sustainability. And I think the
Speaker 2: reason they're remembered so much more than other programs that
Speaker 2: might have had a similar run that they did for
Speaker 2: a few years is because they had a chem Olashwan
Speaker 2: and Claude Drexler like that. Those guys were. I mean,
Speaker 2: those guys were insane. And I say that as you know,
Speaker 2: watching them in the NBA, not in not in college,
Speaker 2: but I would imagine they were pretty damn good in
Speaker 2: college as well. Again, this is where I still have
Speaker 2: to Okay, twenty ten, Tom Penders was their coach. Sounds elite. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Tom Penders was there for six years and you know
Speaker 2: he's a forgetable coach because obviously you know they didn't
Speaker 2: win enough. But Kelvin Sampson, a guy who was you know,
Speaker 2: show caused, kicked out of college basketball for something insanely
Speaker 2: stupid talk about a bounce back, and I don't know
Speaker 2: how you can't not respect him like the guy. I mean,
Speaker 2: he coaches his players hard. Like this is another thing
Speaker 2: that I feel like I'm turning into an old man,
Speaker 2: and I think you can. Actually, I think it matters
Speaker 2: way more now than it ever has that maybe it's
Speaker 2: just more evident. It's more visible when you watch, not
Speaker 2: that I'm an expert in reading body language, but when
Speaker 2: you follow it close enough, and you know, you listen
Speaker 2: to some of the press conferences. And I'm not acting
Speaker 2: like I'm out here seeking out every postgame press conference,
Speaker 2: but because you can go wherever you want now, and yes,
Speaker 2: you can make money when you have the option, you
Speaker 2: have the freedom. Players have all the power now, Right,
Speaker 2: You're going to choose to play for a guy that
Speaker 2: you like, that you you know, you really really relate to,
Speaker 2: and yeah, the money's got to be great. But if
Speaker 2: the money's similar everywhere, what are you gonna do. You're
Speaker 2: gonna pick the coach that you like playing for, and
Speaker 2: I think you're seeing that with teams as they make
Speaker 2: deeper runs. These guys they had, they had the choice
Speaker 2: right in the old days. I mean, Rick Patino had
Speaker 2: some guys signed with Lowell then he met once. But
Speaker 2: but you know, he's Rick Patino, so they should just
Speaker 2: be honored that he even you know, knew who they were.
Speaker 2: I mean, there were guys who were elite level recruits
Speaker 2: that have publicly said that they didn't commit to the
Speaker 2: Louis because they didn't get recruited bout Rick. They got
Speaker 2: recruited by Steve Massiello or you know, Willard. And no
Speaker 2: offense to those guys, but like it used to be
Speaker 2: to where once we got you, we can break you
Speaker 2: down and build you up. Because you can't leave, I
Speaker 2: guess you can, but you know, good luck leaving, because
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to sit out your damaged goods because
Speaker 2: a lot of guys who entered the portal that it
Speaker 2: wasn't because of injury reasons. They were not passed on.
Speaker 2: But like you know, you're gonna not only would you
Speaker 2: have to set out a program, would have to waste
Speaker 2: a scholarship on you and not play you for a year.
Speaker 2: A lot of coaches just said, no, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if the guy's gonna be any good.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna use that scholarship for a player that like
Speaker 2: can help me at some point. So because players have
Speaker 2: all the power to do whatever they want, I think
Speaker 2: it's starting to really hit me. You know, again this
Speaker 2: is corny, but like I enjoy the product of college
Speaker 2: basketball in a in a bigger way in this new
Speaker 2: world for a variety of reasons. One of them is that,
Speaker 2: like you know, like I can tell as somebody who
Speaker 2: you know played basketball growing up, and you know what
Speaker 2: I miss more than anything about it is the camaraderie, right,
Speaker 2: Like the experience being on a team, being held accountable,
Speaker 2: all that stuff, and when you see that, like you know,
Speaker 2: Louisville was a great example of that this year. These
Speaker 2: guys clearly came together like a family, and again corny alert,
Speaker 2: but like you could see it play out, like you
Speaker 2: could see it in every aspect of this program, including
Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey something I didn't even talk about him showing
Speaker 2: up and he was gonna beat the fine for anyway,
Speaker 2: But like the Louisville Managers won the national championship among
Speaker 2: programs that have managers that have a team, and it's
Speaker 2: really competitive. By the way, a lot of these guys
Speaker 2: who play in this, not all of them, but a
Speaker 2: lot of them were really really good high school players
Speaker 2: that just knew that, like their future wasn't going to
Speaker 2: be high level college basketball. So their first chance to
Speaker 2: get a foot in the door is to enroll at
Speaker 2: a program at a school that has a high level program,
Speaker 2: become a student manager, potentially work your way up that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. So a lot of these guys can play.
Speaker 2: But like Pat Kelsey being their front row and Rain
Speaker 2: Smith live streaming and on his phone and giving commentary,
Speaker 2: like supporting those guys the managers, gassing them up after
Speaker 2: big plays. Like if that doesn't speak to a culture,
Speaker 2: sure shift around here. I don't know what does I mean? Again,
Speaker 2: I don't want to act like Pat made some crazy
Speaker 2: cross the world trip to go see these guys, but
Speaker 2: like he could be mingling networking at the Final four,
Speaker 2: which I'm sure he did a lot of that, but
Speaker 2: he took his he took his son Johnny ball game
Speaker 2: to go watch the managers play and compete, and like,
Speaker 2: I just think that's that's cool. I mean again, I
Speaker 2: just think you're gonna see which coaches can truly can
Speaker 2: truly build a culture or sustain a good culture, because
Speaker 2: that matters in a major way now. And I think
Speaker 2: sometimes you'll see guys leaving and you're thinking, Okay, well
Speaker 2: why they leave the why would they leave? They have
Speaker 2: a prominent role here, We're a pretty good program, Their
Speaker 2: money was pretty good at least we thought it was.
Speaker 2: Who knows why they're leaving, will never know unless they
Speaker 2: tell us directly. But I just think when you've got
Speaker 2: the option to go anywhere you want at any time,
Speaker 2: some say, well they're quitting. They're running from they're running
Speaker 2: from being held Accountabley're running from discipline. They think they're
Speaker 2: not playing because the coaches against them, So they're just
Speaker 2: gonna jump jump around from school to school for four years.
Speaker 2: You may be right about all those things, but they
Speaker 2: should have the ability to make their own decisions, and
Speaker 2: some will make decisions that they regret when it comes
Speaker 2: to the portal. But I think also, you know, you
Speaker 2: got chances to find your fit, and there's no better
Speaker 2: example of them than what we have tonight in the
Speaker 2: championship game. Walter Clayton Junior started at IONA. There's other
Speaker 2: guys on this trail. I mean, heck, the other guard
Speaker 2: for Florida whose name is escaping Me, he started at
Speaker 2: FAU and clearly they had to run to the final
Speaker 2: four as well. But you look at Houston, they've got LJ.
Speaker 2: Cryer of course, a big transfer in transfer from Baylor, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, if he wins tonight or they win Houston,
Speaker 2: Cryer will become the first guy to ever win a
Speaker 2: national championship with two different programs. Which that's one of
Speaker 2: those things that it used to not even be like
Speaker 2: really possible. Right now, it may be something that in
Speaker 2: ten years you see multiple guys that are able to
Speaker 2: do that. Just because of the new world that we're
Speaker 2: in Houston. I mean, Kevin Simpson built his roster with
Speaker 2: you know, dudes whose best offer was you know TCU
Speaker 2: or you know I think I read something about one
Speaker 2: of the guys. It came down to VMI and then
Speaker 2: Houston offered late and now he's starting for Houston. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's just a different world. And I think again, if
Speaker 2: you're a nerd for it, like me. I don't know
Speaker 2: how you'd argue this isn't a better way to experience
Speaker 2: college basketball. The downside would be you don't get a
Speaker 2: chance to, you know, have that four year run where
Speaker 2: you get to see a guy grow up from eighteen
Speaker 2: to twenty two, the ups and downs, and they become
Speaker 2: legends because they were here four years and maybe won
Speaker 2: a national championship. Guys like Peyton Siva Yeh, Russ Smith.
Speaker 3: You don't hear that story about Peyton CVN his dad
Speaker 3: and Russ Smith's getting told to get off the team
Speaker 3: at one point.
Speaker 2: We wouldn't have that team in this world. We just wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Like I'm not here to say that those guys would
Speaker 2: have for sure left because because we don't know, they
Speaker 2: don't know, we'll never know. But like the way Rick
Speaker 2: did it then was the way it was done, and
Speaker 2: like that's just not that's really not shouldn't it's not
Speaker 2: possible anymore, but it's insanely unlikely. So again, like here's
Speaker 2: the way I've balanced as a Louisville fan. I'll always
Speaker 2: remember that group in fact, because of what I'm so
Speaker 2: fortunate to be able to do. Like I know a
Speaker 2: few of those guys pretty well, and I love them.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they don't feel the same about me, but
Speaker 2: like I you know, I can tell how much they've
Speaker 2: valued their experience at Louisville, loved this community. I mean,
Speaker 2: like they knew who was following along at the time
Speaker 2: they were on their run and whatnot. And you know,
Speaker 2: I cherish that right like you know, whenever I whenever
Speaker 2: I'm around my nephew and my son. He gets a
Speaker 2: little bit more now that he's older. But like when
Speaker 2: we see Russ Smith and Russ Smith and Payton Siva,
Speaker 2: like those guys know who I am, you know, not
Speaker 2: to say that they consider me like a friend or anything,
Speaker 2: but like I know them, and you know they think
Speaker 2: that's cool as hell. Like the fact that I have
Speaker 2: that is great. And it's because those guys they were
Speaker 2: here for a long time, were kind of similar in age.
Speaker 2: So that is sad that like that really is not
Speaker 2: realistic anymore to see that kind of thing all come together.
Speaker 2: And I don't mean me from a personal level. I
Speaker 2: just mean a group that like will be here that
Speaker 2: long that you know, we'll see it all the way
Speaker 2: through ups and downs and then cutting down the nets.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's hard enough to do as it is. However,
Speaker 2: the one thing that you know on the other side
Speaker 2: that's a positive is that we were able to rid
Speaker 2: ourselves of an insanely deadly toxic virus known as Kenny
Speaker 2: Payne quickly. You could not have he would still be
Speaker 2: our coach. Like I hate to get people PTSD here
Speaker 2: when you're probably worried about your basement flooding or something.
Speaker 2: But like, he'd be our coach still if we did
Speaker 2: not have the portal in anil because coaches were just
Speaker 2: giving way more time. They had the excuse, well, you know,
Speaker 2: it just takes time. Takes time. No, it doesn't that
Speaker 2: take time. I mean what he was saying about how
Speaker 2: long it takes to build a culture and how it
Speaker 2: was broken and you know, needing people, real Louisville fans
Speaker 2: to understand what he's having to deal with, Like that
Speaker 2: feels like those were comments made fifty years ago, because
Speaker 2: I mean it was not the truth when he said it.
Speaker 2: We knew it. But yeah, I mean, it's it's different.
Speaker 2: But I think, at least for now, what has kept
Speaker 2: me from thinking in any way negative about the New
Speaker 2: World is that the awesome season we just had as
Speaker 2: fans that experience of watching these guys slowly but surely
Speaker 2: get this fan base back on board. Attendance grew every
Speaker 2: game throughout the season. They could sense that we were
Speaker 2: healing and they were doing it, and you could tell
Speaker 2: they were energized by that. Like it was just a great,
Speaker 2: great vibe all the way around Austin. You and I
Speaker 2: were there for a handful of games together. You could
Speaker 2: just feel it. Man, it was great. And we would
Speaker 2: not have had that if the portal and NIL were
Speaker 2: not in place like they are right now. So again,
Speaker 2: there's there's pros and cons of it for everybody. I'm sure,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure everything I said as far as why
Speaker 2: I think it's great, I'm sure a lot of you don't.
Speaker 2: Maybe you don't care, maybe you feel differently, and that's
Speaker 2: totally fine. But regardless of what you think, even if
Speaker 2: I was somebody that hated it and think it's like
Speaker 2: the downfall of sports, it's not going back. We're not
Speaker 2: going back to players not being able to make money,
Speaker 2: and we're not going back to players not having the
Speaker 2: ability to just go wherever they want because they're not employees.
Speaker 2: They're not signing noncompetes, which by the way, aren't those
Speaker 2: illegal now too anyway. I mean, so like it or not,
Speaker 2: love it or hate it, it is what it is.
Speaker 2: I would just figure out what best way you can
Speaker 2: get used to it, because this is it, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure there'll be some changes along the way. In fact,
Speaker 2: that settlement, I think that could be finishing up here soon.
Speaker 2: In fact, I know today's a big day when it
Speaker 2: comes to that. So let's do this. Let's take a
Speaker 2: quick time out, will come back on the other side,
Speaker 2: and a lot I want to get to before we
Speaker 2: run out of time. So let's just get to a break.
Speaker 2: I'll try to save as much time as I can.
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Speaker 2: All right, so again, I didn't get a chance to
Speaker 2: talk last week about the three editions for Pat Kelsey
Speaker 2: and the car and says he got off to a
Speaker 2: good start. In fact, got a lot of work done
Speaker 2: last week as far as the roster. I think the
Speaker 2: three pieces that they've added, I mean, there's a reason
Speaker 2: why currently you have the number one class in the portal.
Speaker 2: And it started with the first visitor, and that was
Speaker 2: Adrian Wooley, a guy that we did talk about. In fact,
Speaker 2: I think he was visiting towards the end of the
Speaker 2: last week I was here before going on vacation. But
Speaker 2: he committed six or five guard who was sensational in
Speaker 2: his first season at Kennesau State nineteen points, five point
Speaker 2: two rebounds, shot at fifty one point two percent from
Speaker 2: the field, and was forty three percent roughly from three.
Speaker 2: I mean this guy only as a true freshman. I
Speaker 2: don't care what league you're in. He only had single
Speaker 2: digits in two games last year. Conference U hasa freshman
Speaker 2: of the Year, first team All Conference USA. And I
Speaker 2: don't know if you know, I don't know if if
Speaker 2: he is somebody that chose to go that route. I
Speaker 2: I think he ended up in that. I mean clearly
Speaker 2: he wasn't somebody that had the portal, you know, not existed.
Speaker 2: He would have ended up at a place like Louisville
Speaker 2: or the other schools he was considering just a week
Speaker 2: ago before deciding on Louisville. But he's probably at Kennesaw
Speaker 2: instead of a place like I don't know Clemson or
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech, because those schools instead of reaching out to
Speaker 2: three stars, borderline top one fifty kids out of high school,
Speaker 2: they're saying, look, we're losing veterans every year to the
Speaker 2: portal because that's where we fall in the food chain here,
Speaker 2: So loading up on a bunch of freshmen that you know,
Speaker 2: Arnie Lee would make not a lot of sense. So
Speaker 2: you know, that's why those guys end up at Kinnesau.
Speaker 2: So really, guys that would usually not commit to a
Speaker 2: school like Kennesaw are now going there. And they only
Speaker 2: had him for a year, and I'm sure you know
Speaker 2: they wish they could keep him longer, but they got
Speaker 2: a really good player for a year that they probably
Speaker 2: would have never got had it not been for these changes. So,
Speaker 2: I mean, he clearly showed that he was very talented.
Speaker 2: I know that Conference USA is not not even what
Speaker 2: it once was when Louisville was in it, But this
Speaker 2: is a guy that right now is viewed as the
Speaker 2: fifth best player in the portal now, I know, right now,
Speaker 2: you know there are how many years, four or five
Speaker 2: years you can reference of different rankings as far as
Speaker 2: portal players by position, overall, and you get a mixed
Speaker 2: bag of results, guys that you're like, Wow, that guy
Speaker 2: was as good as everybody thought he was. And then
Speaker 2: there's guys who you're like, wow, that guy really sucked
Speaker 2: at his new school. So you just don't know. So
Speaker 2: I want to be clear about that. However, all we
Speaker 2: can do is reference what's out there, and right now,
Speaker 2: Adrian Wooley is listed as the fifth best overall player
Speaker 2: in the portal, behind Yaxcel Lindenborg, who is the UAB
Speaker 2: transfer going to Michigan, Bennett Sturtz, who is the Ben
Speaker 2: McCollum player who followed him from the D two level
Speaker 2: to Drake now following him to Iowa. R J. Lewis
Speaker 2: who is Saint John's transfer. No, nobody knows where he's
Speaker 2: going just yet. And then Donovan Dent, who is number four,
Speaker 2: who's going from New Mexico to UCLA. So, I mean,
Speaker 2: by all accounts, this guy, he's really really highly regarded
Speaker 2: and he's somebody did a lot of people want it.
Speaker 2: In fact, Louisville guess got in prett quick, got it done,
Speaker 2: which was great to see. But the other schools that
Speaker 2: were really prioritizing him at the time of Louisville was
Speaker 2: locking it up with the likes of you know, Alabama
Speaker 2: final fourteen, Auburn or I guess an Elite eight team.
Speaker 2: I should say Auburn final four team, and then Kansas,
Speaker 2: who clearly had it down yere, but it's Kansas. So
Speaker 2: that was the first pickup. And he's probably the one
Speaker 2: if you're gonna be that guy who worries about all right,
Speaker 2: we'll see it's at Kennisau. Will he average nineteen next year?
Speaker 2: Louill probably not? Will he need to?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I mean if he gives you like eleven or twelve
Speaker 2: in twenty three four minutes of action and he's shooting
Speaker 2: forty percent from three, I mean with everybody else that
Speaker 2: you're gonna have like that should be that's a great addition.
Speaker 2: Now he may do more than that. You just don't know.
Speaker 2: So you know, if you're gonna be the guy, we'll
Speaker 2: see and I don't blame you. People can do whatever
Speaker 2: they want. He'd be the one that you would have
Speaker 2: some some you know, reservations for as far as like
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hold out on real get getting excited. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't do that if I was you, because this is
Speaker 2: exciting stuff. But because he came from Kennesaw, that may
Speaker 2: be that may have some people thinking, Okay, we'll see.
Speaker 2: But when you've got players coming from the Big East
Speaker 2: and other acc squals that you have seen with your
Speaker 2: own eyes be really good, that's where it gets really exciting.
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you Ryan Conwell, I mean, I watched
Speaker 2: probably more Big East basketball than the average just because
Speaker 2: you know, I look for it. I know that it's
Speaker 2: on It's on Fox Sports one and Fox and they
Speaker 2: have no affiliation with ESPN, which leaves them not in
Speaker 2: front of a lot of people. They just they just
Speaker 2: aren't seen that much. But Conwell's a really really good player.
Speaker 2: Third Team All Big East this past season, visited last week,
Speaker 2: made the decision seventeen a game forty one percent from three.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, he was on the team that that did
Speaker 2: make the play in game and beat Texas to get
Speaker 2: into the field of sixty four. So I mean, really
Speaker 2: really really talented player, and a lot of people just assume, Okay,
Speaker 2: he'll follow He's gonna follow Sean Miller to Texas. Of course,
Speaker 2: left Savior to go to Texas a couple weeks ago,
Speaker 2: and then Indiana they got involved, he visited Bloomington. Well,
Speaker 2: he ends up choosing Louisville, and I'm really, really really
Speaker 2: happy that he did. He's a six to four Indianapolis
Speaker 2: native and just just a really talented guard, tough physical,
Speaker 2: a veteran. I believe he started his career at Indiana State.
Speaker 2: I think. So that's a good get. And then obviously
Speaker 2: this is one that Austin was really, really really excited about.
Speaker 2: And then it came true. You got your man, Austin.
Speaker 2: Isaac McNeely, the sharpshooter picks the cards. I was waiting
Speaker 2: for that, the one I was most happiest about. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you and you were pretty you were pretty juiced about it.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're talking about it about fifteen a game,
Speaker 2: and obviously forty two point one percent from three, only
Speaker 2: behind Rain Smith in both percentage. And actually I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: he had a better percentage than Rain slightly, but he's
Speaker 2: second in may threes per game, only behind Rain Smith.
Speaker 2: So that's what you call not missing a beat. I
Speaker 2: think you know, in a way, Rain could just get
Speaker 2: insanely hot, and I guess this guy can too. Clearly,
Speaker 2: the numbers are very similar, but I feel like he's
Speaker 2: got like he's bigger. I mean he's bigger, he's more physical,
Speaker 2: he's more athletic. And I'm not in any way here
Speaker 2: to say he's gonna better than rain Smith, because Rain
Speaker 2: Smith was was great, always will be remembered. But this
Speaker 2: guy is just to you know, put it this way.
Speaker 2: When it comes to just measurables and things that you
Speaker 2: bring to the table, mcneeliy just has a little bit
Speaker 2: more because you know, he's a four star guy, guy
Speaker 2: who committed to go play for Why can't I think of, oh,
Speaker 2: Tony Bennett. I think I can think of his name.
Speaker 2: So I mean these three guys right now, if you
Speaker 2: bring back Javon Hadley and Caseon Pryor with the two
Speaker 2: freshmen that you have coming in that are good enough
Speaker 2: to at least be in the rotation, you look at
Speaker 2: the other guys that you're expecting to come back. I mean,
Speaker 2: Canny Russ could have that typical big jump from freshman
Speaker 2: a sophomore, and you saw times this year. I mean
Speaker 2: he was somebody that absolutely would make plays, do little
Speaker 2: things that you could tell. Okay, yeah, when it comes
Speaker 2: to which guy was a top thirty overall player in
Speaker 2: his class, it's this guy, not the others, just because
Speaker 2: he's gifted athletically, so you know, I think the sky's
Speaker 2: the limit for him. And then you've got Kobe Rodgers,
Speaker 2: who really, I mean, he's somebody that people probably know
Speaker 2: a lot about. Played for Pat Kelsey at Charleston and
Speaker 2: was a starter, was a real impact guy for them,
Speaker 2: and got hurt in their tournament game. Pat's last game
Speaker 2: he coached there at Charleston against Alabama, and he sat
Speaker 2: out last year, just like Ali Khalifa. So you've got
Speaker 2: those two guys, and then James Scott as well. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's somebody that I mean, I would I love that
Speaker 2: he's coming back, and I wouldn't be shocked if he
Speaker 2: plays a ton of minutes again. And it really just
Speaker 2: is I'm thinking about last year at times, I think
Speaker 2: they did a really good job of I mean, we've
Speaker 2: said this many times. They did a good job of
Speaker 2: really getting everything you can out of what you had
Speaker 2: to work with after the injuries. Sorry about that and
Speaker 2: don't mean for that to play, but anyways, that's why
Speaker 2: at the end of the year, like I was upset
Speaker 2: and sad that it was over, but like I couldn't
Speaker 2: generate any feeling of like disappointment or being let down
Speaker 2: because I think at the end of the year, what
Speaker 2: how it all played out, Like, again, you could have
Speaker 2: beat a better you could have played better and beat Creighton. Obviously,
Speaker 2: you know, if you had a better seed like you
Speaker 2: probably should have got, it would have been different. So
Speaker 2: like that's that still sucks. But overall them not being
Speaker 2: able to have like any really polished low post scoring,
Speaker 2: like they made up for that. They shot a lot
Speaker 2: of threes. Obviously they had guys that could get to
Speaker 2: the line and you could get points in the paint
Speaker 2: with your guards because Chucky was good at getting at
Speaker 2: the rim. Bat was really good at that. Obviously, that's
Speaker 2: where that's where Javn lived. But you know, a polished
Speaker 2: low post scorer, a guy who's got some some of
Speaker 2: you know, he doesn't have to be a super athlete,
Speaker 2: because that's where James Scott can come in. Jim Scott's
Speaker 2: a really good rim runner, a good athlete. He's long,
Speaker 2: he can block shots. But if you've got a guy
Speaker 2: to play alongside him in the front court that you know,
Speaker 2: and I know, maybe it could be casing because he's
Speaker 2: a you know, he's a but to me, he's a
Speaker 2: stretch and he loves to shoot threes. We learned that
Speaker 2: in the brief amount of time we had a healthy
Speaker 2: case in prior last year. So like, to me, like
Speaker 2: a really productive big that can score around the rim.
Speaker 2: And I don't mean we got to play through him
Speaker 2: like that to me would be like the missing piece
Speaker 2: for this team to be like really really, really good.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I don't know who, uh who
Speaker 2: that's gonna be, but one name that obviously, as soon
Speaker 2: as this guy entered the portal, I think it made
Speaker 2: sense for Louisville fans, myself included, to start to think, okay,
Speaker 2: maybe this guy is going to be a name we
Speaker 2: should we should follow. And that is uh, let me
Speaker 2: see if I can pull it up here, where is it?
Speaker 2: It is the you know what the hell is it?
Speaker 2: Come on now? Yeah? So Ase Brosovic Brosovic. That is
Speaker 2: the big man who was player of the Year in
Speaker 2: his conference for Pat Kelsey before he came to Louisville.
Speaker 2: He decided to stay Charleston for Chris Mack and he
Speaker 2: had a really good year. He's a really good player.
Speaker 2: And I remember when it came up and I saw
Speaker 2: the report that he entered the portal. Everybody's thinking, Okay, well,
Speaker 2: he'll probably now follow Pat Kelsey, the Louisville the six
Speaker 2: to ten, two hundred and thirty pound big man. You know,
Speaker 2: he'll he'll certainly be a Louisville lock. And I'm thinking, okay,
Speaker 2: would make sense, right, why not reunite? I mean, he
Speaker 2: was actually a more productive player for not no, no,
Speaker 2: I don't think it was any fall to Chris Mack.
Speaker 2: But you know, he had his best season the year
Speaker 2: that Pat was in his last year there at Charleston.
Speaker 2: So I'm thinking, okay, yeah, this would be cool, But like,
Speaker 2: where's this guy going to get eligibility? He played four
Speaker 2: years and now he's done because he did not start
Speaker 2: his college career early enough to be granted a COVID year.
Speaker 2: So I'm sitting here thinking, I think we talked about
Speaker 2: it on the show, like the only thing he would
Speaker 2: be able to claim is that his year of playing
Speaker 2: Division two basketball should not count against him, And sure
Speaker 2: enough we get we get an update today. Ross Ellinger,
Speaker 2: who covers Kyle college football mostly but college sports I
Speaker 2: guess for Yahoo Sports. He reports that a new suit
Speaker 2: has been filed challenging n C DOUABLEA rules, and it's
Speaker 2: from Brosovic, who played at Charleston for three years and
Speaker 2: is now in the portal. He's arguing that it's one
Speaker 2: season at the D two level where he played. I
Speaker 2: believe it was for Southeast Oklahoma State. Maybe that's where
Speaker 2: he was as a freshman at the D two level
Speaker 2: before transferring to play for Pat Kelsey. His argument in
Speaker 2: his lawsuit is that his D two season should not count.
Speaker 2: He cites financial damages of one of more than one
Speaker 2: million dollars, and that's the amount he's being offered to
Speaker 2: play in college next season. So the lawsuit is, Look,
Speaker 2: he's got a chance to play another year and make
Speaker 2: a million dollars and the NC double A is keeping
Speaker 2: him from being able to do that. I don't have
Speaker 2: a clue what kind of case he actually has here
Speaker 2: in court, but I can't blame the guy for trying,
Speaker 2: because if you file a suit, I mean, if you
Speaker 2: file a lawsuit against NS double A lately, I feel
Speaker 2: like you won because I've not heard about them getting
Speaker 2: any victories when it comes to court. Now with that SAI,
Speaker 2: this wouldn't even have been something that he would think
Speaker 2: about doing. I would imagine unless Diego Pavia, the Van
Speaker 2: Dy quarterback, didn't file his lawsuit. And again some still
Speaker 2: think his claim is stupid. Fair enough, but here was
Speaker 2: his argument. You can't take away you can't prohibit me
Speaker 2: from having four years of eligibility when the two years
Speaker 2: I spent prior to playing at this level was not
Speaker 2: underneath your umbrella of schools. Right. I played at a
Speaker 2: school that was not an NCUBLEA institution member. And sounds
Speaker 2: kind of weird that guys could go to JUCO two
Speaker 2: years and then get four years of college sports. But
Speaker 2: that is a legit argument. You're claiming I've used two
Speaker 2: years of eligibility that was not underneath your organization. Rozevic
Speaker 2: can't say that he played NCAA basketball at a Division
Speaker 2: two level. But again they're fighting, as we see speak
Speaker 2: in court over players who are opting in in joint
Speaker 2: for this settlement because they were not allowed to make money.
Speaker 2: So it's really the same argument. Like you know, he's
Speaker 2: basically following the lawsuit saying, you know, I couldn't make
Speaker 2: that kind of money when I was at a D
Speaker 2: two school, And now there's guys that have finished playing
Speaker 2: college basketball seven eight years ago that are joining in
Speaker 2: this lawsuit and they're going to get a settlement. Why
Speaker 2: not just let me play so we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: I mean again, this is not in any way necessarily
Speaker 2: relative to like local schools here. But what I want
Speaker 2: you to keep in mind, if this guy wins, the
Speaker 2: NAA will probably do the same thing they did with
Speaker 2: Diego Pavia, which is they will just give a blanket
Speaker 2: waiver for everybody while they figure it out. Because that's
Speaker 2: what they did. They didn't make any changes, they just said, look,
Speaker 2: if you play. That's why Javon and Casein are eligible.
Speaker 2: Cason would have got it regardless because of the red
Speaker 2: shirt he could have taken from the injury this year.
Speaker 2: But Javon is getting an extra year because one of
Speaker 2: his years that was used during his college career where
Speaker 2: his eligibility was supposed to be exhausted this year was JUCO.
Speaker 2: Now that doesn't count, so he gets another year, so
Speaker 2: that it's Juco guys that are that are that are
Speaker 2: still able to play now. I mean, there's some football
Speaker 2: players that were not in the mix for their school
Speaker 2: until this way, until this blanket waver passed. Who are now?
Speaker 2: You got dudes that are you know? Yeah, I played
Speaker 2: one year, Juco, I got one year left. Let's hit
Speaker 2: the portal. See what I can go get? Well, think
Speaker 2: about if you played four years of NCAA DIV again.
Speaker 2: This is if Brosovic wins his lawsuit again, they'll probably
Speaker 2: do a blanket waiver until they figure it out. But like,
Speaker 2: there could be players from all I mean D two
Speaker 2: NAI which, by the way, D two I would say,
Speaker 2: like the best D two teams, A lot of them
Speaker 2: are not just better, they're substantially better than the three
Speaker 2: hundreds of D one. So just think about if they
Speaker 2: do a blanket waiver, you've got all American players from
Speaker 2: the D two level that are like, I'm hitting the
Speaker 2: poor like it's just it is an absolute free for
Speaker 2: all right now. And it's nobody's fault about the instill
Speaker 2: as that's just the facts of the matter. So anyways,
Speaker 2: quick break, we'll come back, wrap up the four o'clock
Speaker 2: hour on the other side and keep it all on along.
Speaker 2: We'll also get back into the Kentucky side of things,
Speaker 2: because again I don't want to act like Mark Pope's
Speaker 2: gonna have a terrible team next year, But there's really
Speaker 2: no way to kind of again, it can be both things.
Speaker 2: It's not the end of the world. They'll probably be
Speaker 2: just fine when it comes to players for next year,
Speaker 2: for Mark Pope and Lexington. But you know, Kentucky fans,
Speaker 2: even me who's not a Kentucky fan, it's just not usual.
Speaker 2: I'm not used to seeing Kentucky go all in for
Speaker 2: a player three straight times and then not get them.
Speaker 2: But it happened. Quick break. People lock there here and
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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking more so about what we talked about
Speaker 2: at the end of the last segment. If Brosovic does
Speaker 2: win his lawsuit, I mean, I just don't see how
Speaker 2: the NCAA wouldn't. I mean, they don't have the resources
Speaker 2: to handle hundreds of other players seeing him winning and
Speaker 2: doing the same thing, so they'll probably just give a
Speaker 2: blanket waiver. And it's just I mean that, you know,
Speaker 2: the JUCO thing was a big enough factor. But if
Speaker 2: he is granted another year because one of his four
Speaker 2: years was not at the D one level, and now
Speaker 2: that his eligibility is exhausted, he he's unable to make
Speaker 2: a million dollars because he you know, is Uh is
Speaker 2: allegedly being offered that and he can't go because he
Speaker 2: doesn't have eligibility. If they just decide, okay, well we'll
Speaker 2: figure it out. Like I still, I don't, you know,
Speaker 2: look at I'm trying to think of other players. I mean,
Speaker 2: obviously the best example was what Ben McCullum did at Drake,
Speaker 2: But I mean I think there are guys who could
Speaker 2: go and be like you could go to next year
Speaker 2: if this, if this happened to where like D two
Speaker 2: players took advantage of this and realized they could go
Speaker 2: to a higher level one for one year or maybe longer.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like you can see an extra's final
Speaker 2: four have two guys that are, you know, like the
Speaker 2: third leading scorers on teams that are playing for a
Speaker 2: national championship. Like that's not unheard of. They're not going
Speaker 2: to be your focal point, but like they're good players
Speaker 2: and you put them along you know, other good players,
Speaker 2: players that are at a caliber they've never played before
Speaker 2: because they've been at the D two level of the
Speaker 2: NAI level like it. And these are the kind of
Speaker 2: guys that are going to be hungry, like they're not
Speaker 2: going to be here just for the bag. Clearly they're
Speaker 2: gonna want that and they're gonna get it, but like
Speaker 2: they're gonna be thinking like this is insane. I'm playing
Speaker 2: for a power program right now. So we'll see. I
Speaker 2: don't know if he wins, but wouldn't shock me if
Speaker 2: he does. All right, you will win in life if
Speaker 2: you stick around for the five o'clock hour. How about that.
Speaker 2: Just take my word for it. It's coffee and company.
Speaker 2: We got another hour to go right here on Sports
Speaker 2: Talk seven ninety