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<v Speaker 1>Today, I want to tell you about a journey that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on for most of my life. Ever since

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, I've heard tales of Bigfoot and

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<v Speaker 1>wild men while spending time with my friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>As I grew older and read more about the paranormal,

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<v Speaker 1>my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going

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<v Speaker 2>on here. Something just kid with my dog. Something killed

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<v Speaker 2>your dog? My dog. We're flying through there over the tree.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how it did it? Okay, Damn, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over

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<v Speaker 2>the fence, and they was dead once you hit the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't seen any cars. All I saw was my

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<v Speaker 2>dog coming over the fence.

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<v Speaker 1>Mad.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you reporting? We got some wonder or something

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<v Speaker 2>crawling around out here? Did you see what it was?

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<v Speaker 2>It enough here looking them do the one down now

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't need anything. I don't want to go outside. Hello,

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<v Speaker 2>hit the fuddy out here? What quin on out there?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought of a bitch about text nine. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Easy am out there? Yeah, I'm walking right heady.

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<v Speaker 1>Folks, will welcome our guest to the show. It is

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<v Speaker 1>justin from Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome man, hey man, Thank you for having me. I

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>I am glad to have you. It was nice meeting

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<v Speaker 1>you and talking to you up in Gatlinburg. What just

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<v Speaker 1>last weekend? Man? Time flies when you're having fun up

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<v Speaker 1>at the Smoky Mountain Bigfoot Conference. Nikki and Marty always

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<v Speaker 1>do a fantastic job putting on that event. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>up there, gosh the last four or five years and

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<v Speaker 1>always meet some very interesting people there. You are no exception, man.

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<v Speaker 1>You came up to the booth. We had a conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>We got into some topics that most people in Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>don't get deep in the weeds on. Why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>start with the question I always ask everybody who comes

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, what got you interested in the subject

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<v Speaker 1>of sasquatch Bigfoot to begin with?

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, I had got thirty thousand foot view of Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 3>and the Sasquatch. I heard the stories and the legend

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<v Speaker 3>and the overall arching theme of it. But I was

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<v Speaker 3>never what you would call a Bigfoot enthusiast. Just one

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<v Speaker 3>day I was talking with someboddies and Sasquatch came up.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just reading through the Book of Genesis and

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<v Speaker 3>Esau just popped in my head. And when you go

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<v Speaker 3>to Genesis twenty five twenty five, there it says the

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<v Speaker 3>first one came out red, covered in hair from head

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<v Speaker 3>to toe like a Harry Cloak. I was like man

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<v Speaker 3>if we just let the text say what it says. Man,

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<v Speaker 3>that dude sounds pretty squatchy. So I asked the question

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<v Speaker 3>to myself, was this the first bigfoot sasquatch that was

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<v Speaker 3>recorded in the Bible? And it just sent me off

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<v Speaker 3>on this little trail. And I found that there was

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<v Speaker 3>several men in the Biblical text that was described as

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<v Speaker 3>harry wild men. That's just kind of lost in the

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<v Speaker 3>English translations. You got to go back to the Hebrew

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<v Speaker 3>the Greek. But man, they're in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had conversations with people in the past that have

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<v Speaker 1>said they think these things are the nephelum. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>hard pill for me to swallow. I'll be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 1>If I had to plant a flag in a camp,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hate to do that, but it is what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. You've got the flesh and blood camp, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got the wu or high strangeness camp, or as I

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<v Speaker 1>like to call it, the other camp. Because there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much that goes into that. It's difficult for me to

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<v Speaker 1>wrap my brain around some of these stories. But I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, I was having a conversation earlier recording another

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<v Speaker 1>podcast that I host, that Bigfoot podcast, and I had

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<v Speaker 1>a PhD on there doctor Hogan, Chiau and Hogan and

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<v Speaker 1>I were having a conversation about some of these other

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<v Speaker 1>things weird experiences people have, glowing eyes, these things seeming

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<v Speaker 1>to disappear and appear at will, cloaking all the weird

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that goes into them. And I tell you, some

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that you're talking about right now would

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<v Speaker 1>make sense to me to answer some of the questions

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<v Speaker 1>of how that's possible, because it wouldn't be possible. Like

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<v Speaker 1>glowing eyes. For example, I had an experience last summer

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<v Speaker 1>when I was out in the Pacific Northwest. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>these things three times in two days, two times at night,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of those times, when I had an encounter

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<v Speaker 1>ten feet away from these creatures, I saw glowing white eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>self illuminating, bioluminescent type eyes. That does not compute when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to human beings or great apes. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>have it to pay them, loose at them. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the ability to even give off any type of

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<v Speaker 1>eye shine when somebody shines a light in our eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>So glowing eyes certainly don't make any sense for a

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<v Speaker 1>flesh and blood creature. If you're a hominin, whether it

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<v Speaker 1>be human, greade ape, whatever the case may be. So

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<v Speaker 1>it would certainly explain some of those stranger aspects. But

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<v Speaker 1>as you got deeper into this, did you look into

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<v Speaker 1>all of those different mentions of these things in the Bible?

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<v Speaker 1>You were so interested in it you ended up writing

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<v Speaker 1>a book, which we'll obviously get into. You're into Genesis,

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<v Speaker 1>you're reading that, Hey, maybe this is the first Bigfoot?

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<v Speaker 1>How did that progress from there and to where you

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<v Speaker 1>are today in your research?

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, that was the gateway to it all. And then,

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, I asked myself, was this the only one?

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<v Speaker 3>Was this the first one? So I just started going

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<v Speaker 3>through and I'm a big scripture nerd. I have a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of podcasts that I do. One of them is

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<v Speaker 3>with a group of my buddies, and that's what we do.

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<v Speaker 3>We just go through and use like logos Bible software,

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<v Speaker 3>and go to the original languages, the Greek and the

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<v Speaker 3>Hebrew and really break these words down because there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of stuff that just lost in the English translations

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<v Speaker 3>and the historical context. This is an ancient book written

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<v Speaker 3>to ancient people, So if you want to get the

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<v Speaker 3>proper message that they were trying to lay down. You

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<v Speaker 3>got to put yourself in their mindset, what they believe,

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<v Speaker 3>what they thought, and coins of phrases that they used,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's kind of lost to us in modernity. So

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<v Speaker 3>when I got to looking through there, I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>was there any more? Was this the first one? So

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<v Speaker 3>that I got to look and going through the Bible

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<v Speaker 3>and also extra biblical books like the Midrashes and Targums,

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<v Speaker 3>because these are the people, the Second Timple Jews, that

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<v Speaker 3>were writing this text. When I got to going through it,

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<v Speaker 3>I also discovered this book series. It's like a six

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<v Speaker 3>book series called the Legends of the Jews by Lewis Ginsburg.

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<v Speaker 3>He went through and gathered all the oral traditions and

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<v Speaker 3>legends of the peoples and put them all in these

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<v Speaker 3>series of books. And as I started going through it,

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<v Speaker 3>I had found that it was the ancient belief and

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<v Speaker 3>the legend and the lore of these people that came.

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<v Speaker 3>His cursing was that he was covered in hair, and

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<v Speaker 3>that is why he was scared to death when he

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<v Speaker 3>was cast out, because he looks like this harry beast

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<v Speaker 3>and he was worried about someone killing it. And then

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<v Speaker 3>according to the the Midrash, it says that when you

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<v Speaker 3>get down to Lamet, and he's a guy in the Bible,

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<v Speaker 3>that just all of a sudden, he comes home to

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<v Speaker 3>his wives and he says of Cane's cursing, was time seven,

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<v Speaker 3>Mine be seven, time seven, because I killed a man,

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<v Speaker 3>and in my anger killed a youth. And when you

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<v Speaker 3>go to the Midrashes, it gives you some more contexts

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<v Speaker 3>that story. It says that Lemeck was going blind in

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<v Speaker 3>his older age, and his son would help him hunt.

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<v Speaker 3>So his son would help him point his bow and

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<v Speaker 3>help him to hunt and get this game. And one

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<v Speaker 3>day out in the field, his son sees this hairy beast,

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<v Speaker 3>tells his father's where to aim and to shoot, and

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<v Speaker 3>shoots his bow, kills the beast, and when they walk up,

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<v Speaker 3>he discovers that it is his ancestor came and so

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<v Speaker 3>he knew he'd messed up. Cursing was going to follow

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<v Speaker 3>on him, according to the legends and stories. So then

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<v Speaker 3>in his anger he turns and kills his son for

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<v Speaker 3>the mistake. So the Midrash kind of fills in the

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<v Speaker 3>gaps that where Genesis leaves off. That's why he come home,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was so devastated and he said, I'm cursed.

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<v Speaker 3>Not only did I kill a man, I killed a

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<v Speaker 3>youth in my anger, so he killed his son from

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<v Speaker 3>the mistake. And I thought that was pretty wild. So

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<v Speaker 3>then I kept looking at more and then I bumped

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<v Speaker 3>into the story of Nebuka Neezzar, And that's a story

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<v Speaker 3>I was familiar with, but I hadn't looked at it

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<v Speaker 3>with this context, with this set of eyes. And it

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<v Speaker 3>says that this king suddenly becomes mad and he goes

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<v Speaker 3>off into the wilderness. And it says that his hair

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<v Speaker 3>grows long as the eagles feathers, and that his nails

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<v Speaker 3>grow along like eagles talents, and that he just goes wild,

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<v Speaker 3>and that he roams with the beast of the field,

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<v Speaker 3>eats the grass like oxen, and that he's like this

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<v Speaker 3>for seven years and then the curse is lifted off

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<v Speaker 3>of him and he returned. So I was like, this

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<v Speaker 3>kind of fits the bill once again. This is this

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<v Speaker 3>hairy quote unquote wild man in the text. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I had a thirty thousand foot view of Bigfoot, and

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<v Speaker 3>this kind of got me into it. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's one thing that's different with me. How you had

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned you have people in camps. Some people thinks it's this,

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<v Speaker 3>some people thinks it's that I'm that guy. Honestly, I

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<v Speaker 3>never think things are that cut and dry. It's usually

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<v Speaker 3>not this or that, it's this and that. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>a mixture of things. And where I come into this,

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<v Speaker 3>I had no predispositions. A lot of people when they

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<v Speaker 3>get into things, they have their idea of what it is,

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<v Speaker 3>and they go and search for nuggets and factoids to

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<v Speaker 3>try to back up their idea. So where I come

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<v Speaker 3>in this clean slate, I had no predispositions and preconceived notions.

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<v Speaker 3>And honestly, as I got to look and I found

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<v Speaker 3>all the old stories from Europe and basically all around

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<v Speaker 3>the world, this is a phenomenon that is culture blind,

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<v Speaker 3>it is time blind. I just removed the verbiage and

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<v Speaker 3>just looked at common themes and characteristics in these stories,

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<v Speaker 3>and without fail, you had all the characteristics of bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 3>Back then they called it a wild man. And then

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<v Speaker 3>you have all these fertility gods throughout the ancient world,

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<v Speaker 3>and without fail, at least ninety percent of them were

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<v Speaker 3>to toe like a Harry Cloak. I got to look

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<v Speaker 3>in through the genealogies, and this is something that a

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<v Speaker 3>there for a reason. And it wasn't until I discovered

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<v Speaker 3>these genealogies with the fine tooth comb. Through his work,

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<v Speaker 3>to say the least. So when I got to looking

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<v Speaker 3>that he reigned from Mount Sierra. And when you get

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<v Speaker 3>into the Hebrew etymology of that word, that means Harry.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, so here you go. You have

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<v Speaker 3>who there names that they're known to be Harry. So

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<v Speaker 3>basically you have this race of Harry Farrell giants. And

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<v Speaker 3>even deeper from this union is burst this guy named Amalek,

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<v Speaker 3>and he bursts the Amalekite race. And when you go

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, whoa, the blood liquors. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 3>remember that name, the Amalekites. This was the tribe that

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<v Speaker 3>the God's people encountered first while they were in their

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<v Speaker 3>wilderness wanderings when they left the land of Egypt, and

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<v Speaker 3>they ended up having this battle with them. And this

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<v Speaker 3>staff over his head to overcome these clans of farll giants.

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<v Speaker 3>And it says that when he would tire and he

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<v Speaker 3>would lower his arms, that the Amalekites would start to

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<v Speaker 3>win again. So I thought that was significant. But when

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<v Speaker 3>I was going through the extra biblical text in some

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<v Speaker 3>of the rabbi's writings, there was this medieval rabbi by

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<v Speaker 3>the mid Rashes and the Torah, and when it got

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<v Speaker 3>to this part of the book and story, he goes

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<v Speaker 3>into great detail about this Amalekite race, and he says

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<v Speaker 3>that they were known sorcerers, and that they were known

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<v Speaker 3>shape shifters, and that they would shape shift to evade capture.

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<v Speaker 3>So he said, that's why when they were attacking the

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<v Speaker 3>Amalekite race that God said kill every man, woman, child,

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<v Speaker 3>and animal, because these guys were known sorcerers and shape shifters.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was pretty telling. While the Israelites are

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<v Speaker 3>in their wilderness wanderings, this is the time where you

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<v Speaker 3>have the books of Deuteronomy Leviticus, and that's where you

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<v Speaker 3>get a lot of your laws. But you don't get

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<v Speaker 3>a law, a rule, or regulation unless someone's doing these

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<v Speaker 3>said things. But we know from the biblical text that

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<v Speaker 3>the Amalekites were the ones that they encountered first. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's pretty telling when we look at those I

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<v Speaker 3>think that we're looking at the practices of these people

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<v Speaker 3>that were known Faral giants from the offspring of Esau

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<v Speaker 3>and Neffhelin giant clans. When you get in there, what

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<v Speaker 3>does it say. This is in Deuteronomy, it says, no

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<v Speaker 3>longer will you sacrifice to Harry goat demons. And then

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<v Speaker 3>the Book of Isaiah says, and you have to go

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<v Speaker 3>to the septuagen the Greek language for this, But in

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<v Speaker 3>that translation it says that the wild men and the

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<v Speaker 3>satyrs will dance in the desolate cities and in the wilderness.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you go back to the laws, says, not

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<v Speaker 3>only will you not only sacrifice to harry God demons,

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<v Speaker 3>it says you will no longer pass your children through

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<v Speaker 3>the fire. It says you will not seek necromancers or sorcerers.

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<v Speaker 3>You will no longer drink the blood, because the life

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<v Speaker 3>is in the blood. The name of this tribe it

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<v Speaker 3>means blood liquors. And we know that they were sorcerers

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<v Speaker 3>and shape shifters.

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<v Speaker 1>And stay tuned for more sasquatch oat to see. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back after these.

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<v Speaker 3>Messages drinking the blood. And the Phoenicians and Canaanites were

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<v Speaker 3>known to worship bail and pass their children through the fire.

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<v Speaker 3>They were obviously seeing these people out in the wilderness

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<v Speaker 3>and seeing their practices and what they were doing, and

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<v Speaker 3>they were trying to mimic them, and God had to

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<v Speaker 3>step in and be like, no, you can't be doing this.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not going to be doing the practice of these people.

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<v Speaker 3>So I thought that was pretty fascinating. And when I

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of looking at this overall picture, like I

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<v Speaker 3>said earlier, it wasn't this, it wasn't that, And they

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<v Speaker 3>put a red bow on it for me and tied

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<v Speaker 3>it all together. Because when you go into the Book

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<v Speaker 3>of Enoch and you get to the Genesis six event,

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<v Speaker 3>it says in Genesis six that the angels came down

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<v Speaker 3>and bred with the dollars of men and created Nephilim giants.

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<v Speaker 3>And the Book of Enoch says that these giants that

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<v Speaker 3>were created that their spirit was not of heaven and

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<v Speaker 3>not of earth. So therefore when they died, their spirit

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<v Speaker 3>had nowhere to go, but they roamed earth as demons,

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<v Speaker 3>tormenting mankind. So you have this Harry quote unquote man

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<v Speaker 3>Esau marrying into Nephilim giant clans whose names mean that

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<v Speaker 3>they're Harry that are described as Harry Farrell giants, and

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<v Speaker 3>they make these Amalekites you have a really high probability

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<v Speaker 3>of throwing some strange pups. And they were known sorcerers

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<v Speaker 3>and shape shifters and drank blood and all this kind

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<v Speaker 3>of stuff. Not only does this fit the description of

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<v Speaker 3>what we would call a bigfoot today. So you have

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<v Speaker 3>the Flesh and Blood camp. So is there a possibility

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<v Speaker 3>that there's a remnant of these people left? I think

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<v Speaker 3>so it's a possibility. There were known cave dwellers and

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<v Speaker 3>they were known as mighty hunters. They have intelligence as

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<v Speaker 3>a human hybrid. I tell people it's like the panda.

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<v Speaker 3>The panda was only discovered in the last hundred years,

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<v Speaker 3>but there was legends and laura about it for thousands

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<v Speaker 3>of years, but everybody treated it like the Bigfoot. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>that's made up. That's fairytale stuff. That's stuff parents tell

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<v Speaker 3>their kids to keep them out of the woods and pandas.

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<v Speaker 3>If you've ever been around pandas or watched them, they're

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<v Speaker 3>dumb creatures. And if they can avoid being seen, captured

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<v Speaker 3>or killed for thousands of years, we're talking about a

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<v Speaker 3>human hybrid that was a mighty hunter dwells in the

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<v Speaker 3>caves with intelligence. I don't think it's far fetched that

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<v Speaker 3>we've not seen capture or killed one. And that at

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<v Speaker 3>the same time you have the Wu camp, and like

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<v Speaker 3>you said, there phasing in out of reality, a shadow,

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<v Speaker 3>figures and portals and aliens, saucers and stuff sometimes connected

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<v Speaker 3>with these things. So that ties into the demon part.

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<v Speaker 3>If my theory holds water, and these are hybrid race

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<v Speaker 3>of feral giants. When they passed away, their spirits remain

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<v Speaker 3>to torment mankind. So would they not choose a familiar form?

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<v Speaker 3>I think they would. This was a form that commanded

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<v Speaker 3>fear in respect. And so I think when I look

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<v Speaker 3>at that of the holistic picture, the theory that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>coming up with covers both sides of the fence.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna play Devil's advocate for the pun and just

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<v Speaker 1>to play Devil's advocate here. As I said earlier that explanation,

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<v Speaker 1>if it were one or all, or a combination of

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<v Speaker 1>all of those things, it would explain some of the

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<v Speaker 1>more unexplainable things about these creatures. Again, Hogan and I

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<v Speaker 1>were having this conversation earlier today where we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the superhero nests. If you will, of bigfoot sasquatch,

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<v Speaker 1>airy man, whatever language you use to identify them, they

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<v Speaker 1>seem to be the biggest, the baddest, the fastest, the

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<v Speaker 1>slowest at times, the smartest, the loudest. They're the everything

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<v Speaker 1>ist of all of the animal kingdom, and it literally

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<v Speaker 1>makes no sense in biology. I use the comparison of

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<v Speaker 1>an elephant to a cheetah with Hogan earlier today. Elephants

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<v Speaker 1>are humongous. I think the biggest elephant that's ever been

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<v Speaker 1>documented was back in the nineties. It was a bullet

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<v Speaker 1>elephant that weighed like twenty six thousand pounds. But you

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<v Speaker 1>have a cheetah. They're one of, if not the fastest

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<v Speaker 1>animal on earth. Where you compare those two, they're extraordinary

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<v Speaker 1>in their own ways. But as Hogan pointed out earlier

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<v Speaker 1>today during our conversation, cheetahs and elephants have had to

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<v Speaker 1>sacrifice things in their evolution to get the traits that

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<v Speaker 1>they have. Elephants they're not fast, right, They're huge, they're powerful,

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<v Speaker 1>they're highly intelligent mammals, but they're not as fast as

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<v Speaker 1>a cheetah. A cheetah is faster than an elephant and

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<v Speaker 1>most other animals, but they're very delicate physically. Their bodies

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<v Speaker 1>are delicate. They avoid confrontation at all costs because of that,

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<v Speaker 1>so they've sacrificed their robustness. Let's say of an elephant,

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<v Speaker 1>to be as fast as a cheetah is some of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that people attribute to sasquatch during their anecdotal experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>I've experienced it myself. It was there and then it disappeared.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm using the air quotes disappeared. I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 1>bigfoot disappeared into a portal or evaporated. I think they

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<v Speaker 1>blend in very well with their environment, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to explain how big and fast they are. But

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<v Speaker 1>they're very quiet and stealthy, or they can emit infrac

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<v Speaker 1>you feel their vocalizations as well as hear them. There's

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<v Speaker 1>all of these things. So again I go back to

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying, I think it would certainly account for some,

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<v Speaker 1>if not all, of those attributes that. Let's face it,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the other thing. I think we have to

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<v Speaker 1>be realistic about people sharing their encounter stories. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot that goes on. There's a lot of fear, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of adrenaline, there's a lot of things happening

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<v Speaker 1>when these encounters happen. So I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people exaggerate. Maybe they're six feet tall and they think

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<v Speaker 1>it's ten feet tall. Maybe it was fast, but it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't as fast as they thought. So all of these

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<v Speaker 1>things right, But at the end of the day, it

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to believe your theory and to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>they are some sort of a remnant of some of

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<v Speaker 1>these things that you've described. You would have to believe

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<v Speaker 1>those stories. You would have to believe that is true.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you say to people like me who may

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<v Speaker 1>be agnostic in that area, or even an atheist or

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<v Speaker 1>someone who doesn't ascribe to these biblical stories being real

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<v Speaker 1>for lack of a better term, what is your argument

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<v Speaker 1>or where are you on that as far as your

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<v Speaker 1>theory is concerned, linking that to sasquatch or Bigfoot, and

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<v Speaker 1>someone who says, hey, I don't believe that to begin with,

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<v Speaker 1>So I certainly don't believe that your theory holds water,

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<v Speaker 1>because in order for that to be I'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>believe that Where are you on that discrepancy?

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<v Speaker 3>That's one thing I honestly think that sets me apart

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<v Speaker 3>from different researchers. I am a Christian, but I'm one

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<v Speaker 3>of those firm believers that truth is universal, and I

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<v Speaker 3>love comparative mythology, comparative religion, and I like to look

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<v Speaker 3>for common themes. So when you have a story or

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<v Speaker 3>a figure that transcends all languages, cultures, and continents, that

427
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<v Speaker 3>tells me that there has to be something to that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that my religion in my text has

429
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<v Speaker 3>all the answers and all the truth in it that

430
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<v Speaker 3>scattered about. So I tell people, even if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>align yourself with the biblical narrative, I can show you

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<v Speaker 3>multiple narratives around the world that say basically the same

433
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<v Speaker 3>thing that I'm telling you. There might be some little

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<v Speaker 3>different caveats, they might call it a different name, but

435
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<v Speaker 3>the characteristics in common themes are all there. One example,

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<v Speaker 3>when you go to Native Americans, the Native American Lord,

437
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<v Speaker 3>what did they say? They say that the star people

438
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<v Speaker 3>came down and bred with their women, stole their women,

439
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<v Speaker 3>and there was the giants born from their union, and

440
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<v Speaker 3>that these giants they battled with them. And you have

441
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<v Speaker 3>all the legends of the city kr the stone skinned giants,

442
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<v Speaker 3>all of these stories. You have the story of the

443
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<v Speaker 3>city car with the Lovelock Cave, that they chased them

444
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<v Speaker 3>in this cave and burn them up. You go to Europe,

445
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<v Speaker 3>you have all the stories of the wild man, these

446
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<v Speaker 3>stories that they roam the woods, and that they would

447
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<v Speaker 3>storm these villages. And what do they do? Every single time,

448
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<v Speaker 3>they steal goods, they're stealing food, they're stealing animals, and

449
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<v Speaker 3>some rare occasions they take girls and women and they

450
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<v Speaker 3>rape them, and then they record that there's these hairy

451
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<v Speaker 3>children born from the girls when they return them. You

452
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<v Speaker 3>have all the stories of Crampus in Europe. He's this

453
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<v Speaker 3>hairy beast covered in hair man that abducts children and women.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you go down to Sardinia, they have this archaic practice.

455
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<v Speaker 3>And when you ask the people of this today, they

456
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<v Speaker 3>can't even tell you why they do it or where

457
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<v Speaker 3>it's started. They have guesses and theories, but they don't know.

458
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<v Speaker 3>It's so archaic. They've just done it as long as

459
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<v Speaker 3>they can remember. But on the winter solstice, the men

460
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<v Speaker 3>covered themselves and black goats fur from head to toe,

461
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<v Speaker 3>and they called a wooden mask and put on their face,

462
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<v Speaker 3>and then they put hundreds of copper bells on their backs.

463
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<v Speaker 3>And then they dance through the streets and they chase

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<v Speaker 3>and abduct women. And at the same time they light

465
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<v Speaker 3>huge bonfires, and the children that are coming of age

466
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<v Speaker 3>to prove their bravery it's kind of like the bar Mitzvah.

467
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<v Speaker 3>Doing these things makes them an adults, like their right

468
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<v Speaker 3>of passage. But what they have to do is they

469
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<v Speaker 3>have to jump through the fire. Once again, we go

470
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<v Speaker 3>back to these Amalekites and these Canaanites, because what do

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<v Speaker 3>they do They passed their children through the fire. You

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<v Speaker 3>go to India, you have stories of the wild men

473
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<v Speaker 3>there too, and they even have their own sasquat stories.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember what they called them, but I did

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<v Speaker 3>the research on booking. I had a list of all

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<v Speaker 3>the different countries and what they call them. But there's actual,

477
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<v Speaker 3>historical documented people covered in hair from head to toe.

478
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<v Speaker 3>But most people, when you bring up bigfoot, they laugh,

479
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<v Speaker 3>they scoff, they don't even try to look further into

480
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<v Speaker 3>it if they don't believe this. But science even has

481
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<v Speaker 3>definitions and terms for these things. It's called hypertrixosis with

482
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.519
<v Speaker 3>hypertrick sosis. And there's many documented cases of children born

483
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<v Speaker 3>covered in hair. And there was people recorded in India

484
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<v Speaker 3>and this guy, he was a part of the king's court,

485
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<v Speaker 3>and this traveler, this documented guy that done all this

486
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<v Speaker 3>historical work and stuff and documented everything. He documented. This

487
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<v Speaker 3>guy had his name in there left and he came

488
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<v Speaker 3>back twenty years later and the guy was still alive.

489
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<v Speaker 3>But he had a family. He was married and he

490
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<v Speaker 3>had children, and two of his children had the same

491
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<v Speaker 3>thing that were covered in hair from head to toe.

492
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<v Speaker 3>One that's really famous that was historically documented and painted

493
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<v Speaker 3>was this guy named Pedro Gomez. When you look him up, man,

494
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<v Speaker 3>you type in his name and searts him up. He

495
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<v Speaker 3>looks like something from that teen Wolf movie. He's covered

496
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<v Speaker 3>in hair, but he's dressed real nigh like a nobleman.

497
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<v Speaker 3>He was thoroughly documented because he was in the King's

498
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<v Speaker 3>court of France, and his story is that he was

499
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<v Speaker 3>basically thrown into the wilderness and cast aside because his

500
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<v Speaker 3>parents thought he was a demon baby. And people at

501
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<v Speaker 3>this time that were born like this, they were either

502
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<v Speaker 3>killed throughout in the wilderness defend from themselves and they

503
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<v Speaker 3>starved to death, or they were picked up and brought

504
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:25.680
<v Speaker 3>into freak shows. And here's where you get all your

505
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:31.240
<v Speaker 3>stories and newspapers about the wolfman and the bearded Lady.

506
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<v Speaker 3>These are people science would turn with hypertrixosis. And this

507
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:39.279
<v Speaker 3>Pedro guy, he was snatched up by these traders and

508
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<v Speaker 3>was given to the King of France as a gift.

509
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<v Speaker 3>Luckily for him, this king loved him so much. He

510
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<v Speaker 3>loved him like a son and basically took him in

511
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<v Speaker 3>as a son, adopted him, give him a place in court,

512
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<v Speaker 3>dressed him in the finest clothes, sent him to the

513
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<v Speaker 3>finest schools to be a lawyer. And he lived with

514
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<v Speaker 3>the king all of the king's days. And then when

515
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<v Speaker 3>the king died, he wrote in his will that he

516
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<v Speaker 3>wanted Pedro to have his own lands, to be made

517
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<v Speaker 3>a lord and have a castle, and even arrange for

518
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<v Speaker 3>him a marriage so that he could have the closest

519
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<v Speaker 3>thing to a normal life. He was arranged a marriage

520
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:22.160
<v Speaker 3>with this woman named Elizabeth, and they had three children,

521
00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:25.839
<v Speaker 3>and two of those children were covered in hair from

522
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<v Speaker 3>head to toe, and they were girls, and they're depicted

523
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:33.279
<v Speaker 3>and painted throughout history. They even have a family portrait

524
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:36.000
<v Speaker 3>of all of them together. There's the dad looking like

525
00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:37.920
<v Speaker 3>something now teen wolf, and the two little girls in

526
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:40.559
<v Speaker 3>pink dresses covered in hair from head to toe, and

527
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<v Speaker 3>Elizabeth sitting there with them. And I think they had

528
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:45.759
<v Speaker 3>a third child, a boy. He was normal, But a

529
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:48.880
<v Speaker 3>lot of people missed that. The story of Beauty and

530
00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:52.519
<v Speaker 3>the beast was based off of this man. If you

531
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:55.400
<v Speaker 3>don't align with the biblical Marriatim, that's fine. I can

532
00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:58.200
<v Speaker 3>show you many stories throughout the world and cultures that

533
00:29:58.319 --> 00:29:59.960
<v Speaker 3>all rhyme and sound just the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you a question. For some people, this

535
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<v Speaker 1>is something I've learned over the last few years. I

536
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<v Speaker 1>used to think everybody who was into the Bigfoot thing

537
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<v Speaker 1>was in it for the same reasons. Couldn't have been

538
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<v Speaker 1>farther from the truth. There are people out there, though,

539
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:19.079
<v Speaker 1>who do want these creatures recognized by science, and I

540
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<v Speaker 1>feel that I fall into that camp. It's not the

541
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<v Speaker 1>end all be all for me because I've had my experiences,

542
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:29.079
<v Speaker 1>I've seen these things. I am one hundred percent convinced

543
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:31.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm a knowwhere that they're real. That's pretty much the

544
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<v Speaker 1>end of the line for me as far as that goes.

545
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<v Speaker 1>Would I like them to be recognized by science, Yes,

546
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<v Speaker 1>But if they're not, I would be okay with that

547
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<v Speaker 1>as well, because I think that opens a whole other

548
00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:46.960
<v Speaker 1>can of worms for them and for us and for

549
00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:51.039
<v Speaker 1>everybody involved in the situation if science is involved. But

550
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<v Speaker 1>it is a huge thing for a lot of people

551
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<v Speaker 1>in the community, and I can tell you that just

552
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<v Speaker 1>with the flesh and blood and the high strangeness or

553
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<v Speaker 1>WU camp, there is a huge divide because I think

554
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<v Speaker 1>the majority of the animosity, if you will, if that's

555
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:10.519
<v Speaker 1>the correct term, from say the people on the flesh

556
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:13.519
<v Speaker 1>and blood side, is that all the craziness or the

557
00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:18.359
<v Speaker 1>high strangeness of the WU camp keeps science at bay.

558
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<v Speaker 1>Meaning because of all the weird things that people claim,

559
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:26.440
<v Speaker 1>science isn't touching Bigfoot with a ten foot pole. Now,

560
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:30.559
<v Speaker 1>there are some closeted PhDs and academics out there that

561
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:34.240
<v Speaker 1>are into Bigfoot. I know some of them. They're a

562
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<v Speaker 1>part of some groups that meet regularly honestly in complete

563
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<v Speaker 1>anonymity because of their connection to academia. But there are

564
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:48.880
<v Speaker 1>people in academy that are interested. Yet because of some

565
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<v Speaker 1>of the people who claim that they come out of

566
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<v Speaker 1>portals or they're dropped off by aliens and alien craft,

567
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<v Speaker 1>science is not going to touch it. Let me ask

568
00:31:58.680 --> 00:32:03.559
<v Speaker 1>you this, if to ascribe to your hypothesis or your

569
00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:06.680
<v Speaker 1>theory on this, how do you think or do you

570
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:10.920
<v Speaker 1>think that if it's true, maybe you're one hundred percent right.

571
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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that affects whether or not academia is

572
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:19.440
<v Speaker 1>ever going to get involved in the hunt for the

573
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:25.200
<v Speaker 1>search for recognizing these creatures as a real thing, and

574
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<v Speaker 1>stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be

575
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<v Speaker 1>right back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, I'm kind of like you because of the encounters

577
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:41.640
<v Speaker 3>that people have had, the testimony of the highest strangeness

578
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:44.799
<v Speaker 3>that kind of wants them to just push that away,

579
00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:48.240
<v Speaker 3>even if in the back of their mind they're like, man,

580
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:50.240
<v Speaker 3>if one of these stories is true, we have to

581
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:53.160
<v Speaker 3>check it out. But they never will out of fear

582
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<v Speaker 3>of being ostracized, made fun of, lose their tenure, get

583
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:00.559
<v Speaker 3>fired from their jobs for years and years of work

584
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<v Speaker 3>that's not even related to bigfoot be thrown into that camp,

585
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<v Speaker 3>and people not even look at them anymore because of

586
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:10.480
<v Speaker 3>this one thing. It does that it paints you in a box.

587
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<v Speaker 3>But I believe if you use to separate the whole

588
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:18.000
<v Speaker 3>spiritual side of it, of my theory, and just focused

589
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<v Speaker 3>on the physical side, I think that would in the

590
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<v Speaker 3>minds of academia and the big brain people would be

591
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<v Speaker 3>more feasible to look into it. Because I'm saying that

592
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<v Speaker 3>this is a race of humanoid. I ain't going to

593
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:40.519
<v Speaker 3>say direct the human but a humanoid species that's just

594
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<v Speaker 3>covered in hair, basically feral, tall people that just went wild.

595
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<v Speaker 3>Because science believes, and it's observable. You can take a

596
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.960
<v Speaker 3>domesticated pig, when you take it out into the wild,

597
00:33:56.759 --> 00:34:01.200
<v Speaker 3>it goes feral. It's programmed into its DNA, it covers

598
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<v Speaker 3>in hair, it grows long tusks. So we know that

599
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:09.360
<v Speaker 3>science gets down with that. And then also there's scientific,

600
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<v Speaker 3>documented evidence it's been observed, written down as talked about

601
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<v Speaker 3>that in certain situations humans do this too, it's built

602
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<v Speaker 3>into our DNA. I read this and it blew my mind,

603
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:25.000
<v Speaker 3>and it said that when your body goes into starvation

604
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<v Speaker 3>mode anorexia, and it's compared to being out in the

605
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:34.199
<v Speaker 3>elements and the cold, your body is the most survival

606
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:38.599
<v Speaker 3>tool mechanism that there is. It wants to survive, it

607
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:42.920
<v Speaker 3>will adapt and do things, and they have recorded and documented.

608
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<v Speaker 3>Science knows this. It's in the books that in those

609
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<v Speaker 3>conditions that the people will go feral, they'll grow fine

610
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<v Speaker 3>hair all over their entire body as a defense mechanism

611
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<v Speaker 3>against the cold and starvation. So I think if we

612
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<v Speaker 3>focused just on the physical side of my theory, they're

613
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<v Speaker 3>already saying they agree with these things. I think it's

614
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<v Speaker 3>just that stigma of the other side and the experiences

615
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:14.480
<v Speaker 3>that people have. They just scoff and laugh and don't

616
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<v Speaker 3>even look any further into it. But if they are

617
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<v Speaker 3>actually looking into the science, the things that I'm talking

618
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:25.119
<v Speaker 3>about here is already documented and they already believe it anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess that brings me to another question. As

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking, I'm trying to figure out in my brain,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll just ask you what you think about where

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<v Speaker 1>you fall in the flesh and blood versus the high

623
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<v Speaker 1>strangeness with your theory? Do you think it qualifies, for

624
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<v Speaker 1>lack of a better term, a hybrid between the two.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're talking, let's focus on the flesh and blood,

626
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<v Speaker 1>let's focus on the science part of it. But again,

627
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<v Speaker 1>there is some supernatural I don't know what the word is,

628
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<v Speaker 1>there's some supernatural things that go along with your Where

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that would fall if you're planning a

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<v Speaker 1>flag in either one hundred percent flesh and blood and

631
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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent wo or high strangeness. Where does Justin's

632
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<v Speaker 1>theory fall in between those two?

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<v Speaker 3>I was trying to maybe I'm doing a really bad

634
00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:20.559
<v Speaker 3>job of articulated, but I'm in the middle. I think

635
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:26.159
<v Speaker 3>it is both. My hope would be is nobody's going

636
00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:29.480
<v Speaker 3>to accept any kind of idea or theory unless they

637
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:32.639
<v Speaker 3>believe it's their idea. So somebody could be on this

638
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:34.559
<v Speaker 3>side of the fence, and somebody could be on this

639
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:36.480
<v Speaker 3>side of the fence, and they're screaming at each other,

640
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:39.039
<v Speaker 3>trying to tell each other how they're wrong and how

641
00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:41.679
<v Speaker 3>their theory is right. It's never going to work. You're

642
00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:44.800
<v Speaker 3>never going to change anybody's mind. But if you bring

643
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<v Speaker 3>up points, point in certain directions, you know, just drop

644
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:52.440
<v Speaker 3>hints and point the way, and somebody actually looks and

645
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:54.480
<v Speaker 3>sees that and they're like, hey, I see this connection.

646
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:57.400
<v Speaker 3>In that connection, then they think it's their idea, it's

647
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<v Speaker 3>not you shoving it down their throat. They're more prone

648
00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:02.840
<v Speaker 3>to accept that. So with me talking about pointing to

649
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<v Speaker 3>the flesh and blood for the big brains of university types,

650
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:10.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm hoping for that same kind of scenario, a domino effect,

651
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:14.639
<v Speaker 3>so to speak. So meet them on common ground where

652
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:17.639
<v Speaker 3>we both agree on something. Because you start a conversation

653
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<v Speaker 3>with somebody and ask them a series of questions in

654
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<v Speaker 3>the first three or four questions. They're like, yeah, I

655
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:25.199
<v Speaker 3>agree with that. Yeah, I agree with that, and you're like, okay,

656
00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:27.760
<v Speaker 3>we're not so far apart here. And then you bring

657
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:30.760
<v Speaker 3>up something maybe they don't align with. They're more prone

658
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:34.400
<v Speaker 3>to hear you out and seek it out because you've

659
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:37.559
<v Speaker 3>already established a lot of common ground and they know

660
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:40.280
<v Speaker 3>you're not a whack of do crazy guy and that

661
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:43.239
<v Speaker 3>you guys have a lot of common ground. So it's

662
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:45.159
<v Speaker 3>my hope would be is like, okay, look over here

663
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:47.400
<v Speaker 3>at this, look at the pharaoh giants, look at the

664
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:50.920
<v Speaker 3>animals that turn farah, and we have scientifically documented that

665
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:53.440
<v Speaker 3>people can do the same thing. We have all these

666
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:57.119
<v Speaker 3>documented people in history. So therefore I'm not too far

667
00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:00.440
<v Speaker 3>off here. We got a lot of common ground trust uscience, right,

668
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:02.280
<v Speaker 3>So what these guys like to say, I'm showing you

669
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:05.239
<v Speaker 3>and they're like, okay, maybe I could see that as

670
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:08.480
<v Speaker 3>a possibility. And they're like yeah, And by the way,

671
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:11.559
<v Speaker 3>I think they're a hybrid. Oh what do you mean.

672
00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:14.840
<v Speaker 3>I bring up the Bible and they're like, oh, that's hogwash.

673
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:17.800
<v Speaker 3>Look at the Native American Low, look over here in

674
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:20.360
<v Speaker 3>Europe at their legends, and low look over here in India,

675
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:24.159
<v Speaker 3>their legends and low they're all the same. Is there

676
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:27.440
<v Speaker 3>some kernel of truth in all this? And get their mind?

677
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<v Speaker 3>Really so, if you can get them to I'm hoping

678
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:32.159
<v Speaker 3>it'd be like a domino effect if you meet them

679
00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:34.599
<v Speaker 3>on common ground and they see it and they're like, Okay,

680
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:37.519
<v Speaker 3>I can see this is a possibility, and then you

681
00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:40.519
<v Speaker 3>bring up the other side that they would least entertain

682
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:42.920
<v Speaker 3>it and seek it out in the very least. At

683
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<v Speaker 3>the end of the day, the best that you can

684
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:48.840
<v Speaker 3>hope for is them to say that's interesting, or Hey,

685
00:38:48.920 --> 00:38:52.760
<v Speaker 3>that's possible. Do I think it's likely? I probably not. Hey,

686
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:55.559
<v Speaker 3>I can see your point, and I think it's possible.

687
00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:57.599
<v Speaker 3>I think that's the best that we could hope for.

688
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<v Speaker 1>We've mentioned it a couple of times. Let's talk about

689
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:03.599
<v Speaker 1>the book. You got so into this, you decided to

690
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:05.559
<v Speaker 1>put it into a book. Talk a little bit about

691
00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:08.760
<v Speaker 1>that process. What people can expect when they go out

692
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:09.760
<v Speaker 1>and pick up the book.

693
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

694
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<v Speaker 3>The book it's called The Epic of Esau, the Birthright

695
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:17.039
<v Speaker 3>and Seed War. And like I said, some of the

696
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:18.760
<v Speaker 3>things that I've talked about today, this is all in

697
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:22.559
<v Speaker 3>the book. It's a fifteen chapter book. It's not all

698
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:25.239
<v Speaker 3>about Esau. Like I said, I dive into the science,

699
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:28.119
<v Speaker 3>what the science says about it, what the legends and

700
00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:30.480
<v Speaker 3>the lore are around the world. I show you all

701
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:33.840
<v Speaker 3>the common themes, what the names are for these harry

702
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:36.880
<v Speaker 3>wild men, and build a case from the foundation up.

703
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:41.039
<v Speaker 3>And then I introduce you to people like Pedro Gomez.

704
00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:43.639
<v Speaker 3>There's a couple other ones, but the names are slipping

705
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:46.599
<v Speaker 3>me now, but show you all those, and then I

706
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:49.880
<v Speaker 3>go into the biblical narratives. I'm like, okay, we also

707
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:52.920
<v Speaker 3>have this in the Bible. And then I show Esau

708
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:55.920
<v Speaker 3>and Cain and Ebuicnezar and some others like we talked

709
00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:59.320
<v Speaker 3>about today. But then I really like dive into Esau.

710
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:02.360
<v Speaker 3>And like I said, I looked through the genealogies and

711
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:05.440
<v Speaker 3>found out he intermarried with these Nephlum giants and bred

712
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:08.480
<v Speaker 3>with them, and they were known as harry giants and

713
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:11.159
<v Speaker 3>the Amalekites and all the things that we talked about earlier.

714
00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:14.239
<v Speaker 3>I found all kinds of other cool stuff. Because Esau

715
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:18.840
<v Speaker 3>the Bible is honestly one of the most enigmatic characters.

716
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:21.199
<v Speaker 3>You get just a little blurb about him, and then

717
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:24.679
<v Speaker 3>shume that goes on. It's Genesis six you get a

718
00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:27.239
<v Speaker 3>little blurb and then they move on. You're like, WHOA,

719
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:30.119
<v Speaker 3>that's pretty important. I want some more context on this story.

720
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<v Speaker 3>What I got to finding out was is it's kind

721
00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:36.559
<v Speaker 3>of like the writers didn't want to theoretically beat a

722
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.440
<v Speaker 3>dead horse. You got to remember, this text wasn't written

723
00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:41.440
<v Speaker 3>for us. It was written for the people at that time,

724
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:46.119
<v Speaker 3>and there was all kinds of legends and lore and

725
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:50.599
<v Speaker 3>other scrolls circulating us. As modern people, we see this

726
00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:52.679
<v Speaker 3>Bible and we think this is a book they had,

727
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:54.440
<v Speaker 3>and it was circulating, and it was all put to

728
00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:59.480
<v Speaker 3>get know, these were all separate scrolls and stories traveling

729
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:04.280
<v Speaker 3>around and much much later, they chose pick and choose

730
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:07.320
<v Speaker 3>what they wanted to go in this book and compile them.

731
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.079
<v Speaker 3>So when you go look and through these other extra

732
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:13.760
<v Speaker 3>biblical books, they were scrolls and stories and oral traditions

733
00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:16.480
<v Speaker 3>that was circulating at the time. So you had the

734
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:20.039
<v Speaker 3>Book of Enoch. So I am of the opinion that

735
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:22.199
<v Speaker 3>the writer was like, Okay, I'm just going to give

736
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:25.679
<v Speaker 3>this a little blurb about Genesis six, because everybody already

737
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:29.079
<v Speaker 3>knows about the giants. Everybody knows we got the Book

738
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:31.840
<v Speaker 3>of Enoch. We got so many scrolls circulating about that.

739
00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:34.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to theoretically beat a dead horse here,

740
00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:37.280
<v Speaker 3>but us thousands of years later, we don't know about

741
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:40.360
<v Speaker 3>those other stories. We don't know about those scrolls. So

742
00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:42.559
<v Speaker 3>I think it's so important that we dive into that.

743
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:45.159
<v Speaker 3>And I think Eastau was an example of the very

744
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:48.440
<v Speaker 3>same thing. They were, Like, there's so many stories and

745
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:52.440
<v Speaker 3>oral legends about this guy. We don't need to go

746
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:56.320
<v Speaker 3>into great context about it. Everybody already knows, but we didn't.

747
00:41:57.000 --> 00:41:59.960
<v Speaker 3>For instance, here's one thing that I found that was absolute,

748
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:05.400
<v Speaker 3>polutely fascinating was the Book of Jasher talks about Esau

749
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:08.880
<v Speaker 3>and it says that he was the Mighty Hunter. King

750
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:13.039
<v Speaker 3>Nimrod was also known as the Mighty Hunter, and it

751
00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:16.400
<v Speaker 3>said that Nimrod had built up jealousy and hatred against

752
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:20.320
<v Speaker 3>Esau all of his days, and basically Gaston and beauty

753
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:23.079
<v Speaker 3>of the beast. He went out to kill this beast

754
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:25.880
<v Speaker 3>of a man and show who the real mighty man was.

755
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:28.280
<v Speaker 3>It's like a clash of the highlander. There can only

756
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:31.320
<v Speaker 3>be one baby, and he goes out with his group

757
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:34.880
<v Speaker 3>of mighty men and hunts him down. But he sees

758
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:37.599
<v Speaker 3>him coming while he's out in the wilderness hunting, and

759
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:40.960
<v Speaker 3>it says he hides itself and Nimrod in two of

760
00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:44.199
<v Speaker 3>his other mighty men come walking by him, and he

761
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:48.880
<v Speaker 3>springs out in surprise and cuts off Nimrod's head and

762
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:52.000
<v Speaker 3>kills the other two guardsmen. And then it says that

763
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<v Speaker 3>he takes the time to steal Nimrod's garments, and it

764
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<v Speaker 3>says these garments were the reason why Nimrod was such

765
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:02.280
<v Speaker 3>a mighty man and was able to rule over all

766
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:05.679
<v Speaker 3>the nations. And then you go on through jash Or.

767
00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:09.000
<v Speaker 3>I was like, what's so special about these garments? And

768
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:12.480
<v Speaker 3>it turns out that the Jewish belief true or not.

769
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:16.880
<v Speaker 3>This is what they believed, that these were the supernatural

770
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:20.679
<v Speaker 3>garments from the Garden of God given to Adam when

771
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:23.159
<v Speaker 3>he was kicked out of the garden, and this was

772
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:28.519
<v Speaker 3>basically a symbol of kingship and priesthood. And they traced

773
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:31.559
<v Speaker 3>it that it went from Adam to Enoch to Mathuselah

774
00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:34.159
<v Speaker 3>to Noah. Noah had it on the boat and took

775
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:36.679
<v Speaker 3>it over the flood on the Ark, and it says

776
00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:39.440
<v Speaker 3>that Ham the wicked Son and his going out stole

777
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:43.239
<v Speaker 3>those garments, and that's how Nimrod wound up with them,

778
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:47.199
<v Speaker 3>and it honestly ties into our Bible, our sixty six

779
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:51.000
<v Speaker 3>book Cannon, that famous story of the trading of the birthright,

780
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:54.159
<v Speaker 3>and that's the big thing everybody remembers about Esau. And

781
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:56.880
<v Speaker 3>to me, it never made sense because it says that

782
00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:01.039
<v Speaker 3>this mighty hunter Esau comes in on the field one day,

783
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:05.920
<v Speaker 3>exhausted and his brother's making red stew and he comes

784
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:08.480
<v Speaker 3>in and says, give me some of that red stew

785
00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:12.239
<v Speaker 3>and his brothers, yeah, sure, but to trade me your birthright.

786
00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:16.079
<v Speaker 3>And then he replies, what uses of birthright to me?

787
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:20.119
<v Speaker 3>When I'm dead? Take it? And basically modern context, guys,

788
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:22.599
<v Speaker 3>is if your dad's Donald Trump and you're the eldest son,

789
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:25.519
<v Speaker 3>you're next in line. You're gonna get the billions of dollars.

790
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:28.360
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna get the company business. The keys of the

791
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:31.840
<v Speaker 3>kingdom are yours. And you come in one day and

792
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:34.079
<v Speaker 3>your younger brother sitting on the couch eating to Rito's,

793
00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:36.719
<v Speaker 3>and you're like, hey, bro, give me some of them Dorito's.

794
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:41.280
<v Speaker 3>He's yeah, sure, sign over the company. Huh. Nobody would

795
00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:44.760
<v Speaker 3>ever do that. It don't make sense. He was the

796
00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:48.880
<v Speaker 3>mighty hunter, guys, he wouldn't starve. If he was starving,

797
00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:51.000
<v Speaker 3>he would have went and killed a lion, had lion

798
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:54.079
<v Speaker 3>steak for supper. He was the mighty hunter for crying

799
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:54.840
<v Speaker 3>out loud.

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<v Speaker 1>And stay tuned for more sasquatch oat to see. We'll

801
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:02.800
<v Speaker 1>be right back after these message.

802
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:05.480
<v Speaker 3>But when you get into that book at jash Or

803
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:08.280
<v Speaker 3>where he has that confrontation with Theimrod and steals the garments,

804
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:11.239
<v Speaker 3>it says that he goes home and hides the garments

805
00:45:11.239 --> 00:45:14.280
<v Speaker 3>in his tent and then goes to his brother's tent.

806
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:18.400
<v Speaker 3>So it Douve tells perfectly. So he had this fight

807
00:45:18.519 --> 00:45:22.920
<v Speaker 3>with three men, and Nimrod was even explained as a

808
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:26.199
<v Speaker 3>giant a gibble Rem in the Hebrew text. So he

809
00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:30.320
<v Speaker 3>kills not one, not two, but three gible Rem single

810
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:33.880
<v Speaker 3>handedly in combat. He probably sustained some life threatening injuries.

811
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:38.199
<v Speaker 3>Modern context, he just killed the president and the president's guards.

812
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:42.599
<v Speaker 3>He's on the run, there's people looking for him. He's paranoid.

813
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:46.440
<v Speaker 3>He's scared, maybe sustain some life threatening injuries. So he

814
00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:50.719
<v Speaker 3>comes into his brother's tent. Help me, hide me, sustain me,

815
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:54.159
<v Speaker 3>give me sustenance, and he's, yeah, i'll help you, but

816
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:56.039
<v Speaker 3>you're going to give me your birth right, and that's

817
00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:58.119
<v Speaker 3>why it makes so much sense. That's why he said,

818
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:00.719
<v Speaker 3>what use is a birthright to me when I'm take it?

819
00:46:01.639 --> 00:46:03.840
<v Speaker 3>And I just found all these other little stories like

820
00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:06.519
<v Speaker 3>that through these extra biblical texts that just filled in

821
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:10.159
<v Speaker 3>so many gaps in the Bible, and these biblical stories

822
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:12.079
<v Speaker 3>that never made sense to me as a kid. So

823
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:15.440
<v Speaker 3>it was honestly just a really fun journey to go

824
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:18.199
<v Speaker 3>through and find stuff and gather these puzzle pieces and

825
00:46:18.199 --> 00:46:20.480
<v Speaker 3>put them together. It gives me a whole new perspective

826
00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:23.880
<v Speaker 3>and better understanding of a lot of just the enigmatic

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<v Speaker 3>stories of the Bible. And honestly, it was a two

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<v Speaker 3>year just deep dive obsession for me. So it was

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It definitely sounds like a journey. Tell everybody where's the

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<v Speaker 1>best place that they can go pick.

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<v Speaker 3>Up the book? Yeah, I appreciate man. The book. You

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<v Speaker 3>can find it on Amazon. I have the hardback copy

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<v Speaker 3>for twenty bucks or the digital copy for ten bucks.

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<v Speaker 3>If you guys want to sign copy on my website,

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<v Speaker 3>Prometheus Lens podcast dot com, you can go on there

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<v Speaker 3>and I have links and stuff too, like my Venmo, PayPal,

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<v Speaker 3>all those different cash apps. If you are in the

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<v Speaker 3>United States, just PayPal me twenty five bucks with your

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<v Speaker 3>address and I'll send you a sign copy. And I

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<v Speaker 3>also have sticker packs and bookmarks, all kinds of other

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<v Speaker 3>extra goodies. If you don't want to fatten the pockets

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<v Speaker 3>of Big Brother and get some extra stuff that that

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<v Speaker 3>would be much appreciated. My podcast, I've had it. It'll

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<v Speaker 3>be two years old in October. But it's called the

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<v Speaker 3>Prometheus Lens Podcast. Anywhere you can consume content, guys, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, Instagram,

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<v Speaker 3>all those other social medias, just search up the name

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<v Speaker 3>Prometheus Lens podcast. You should be able to find me.

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<v Speaker 3>I cover everything from strange biblical stuff to ancient history, loss, civilizations,

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<v Speaker 3>conspiracy theory, cryptids, all the fun gamut of things. Have

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of guests on and we just talk about

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<v Speaker 3>all those strange things and I try to just basically

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<v Speaker 3>filter it through my biblical lens. It's a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 3>I thoroughly enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like a good time. I will link to

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<v Speaker 1>it right here in the show notes. You guys, go

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<v Speaker 1>over and check out the website, check out the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>show them some love, pick up a book justin thinks

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<v Speaker 1>one thank you for coming on the show. Man, I've

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<v Speaker 1>had a blast talking to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, man, I really appreciate you taking your time having

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<v Speaker 3>me out in front of your audience.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I tell people time that's life's most valuable resource.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>We can get more money, we can get more friends,

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<v Speaker 3>more everything, but we can't get more time. That's life's

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<v Speaker 3>most valuable. Last, I appreciate you spending it with me.

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<v Speaker 3>They say you don't gotta go home, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't stay. I don't want to be.

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<v Speaker 2>World out.

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<v Speaker 3>Joy This chart chart everything pocking back for joy, for.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, joy, staying right, you come it right away, Still

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<v Speaker 1>still stay.

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<v Speaker 3>Said side.

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