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Speaker 2: Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going
Speaker 2: on here. Something just kid with my dog. Something killed
Speaker 2: your dog? My dog. We're flying through there over the tree.
Speaker 2: I don't know how it did it? Okay, Damn, I'm
Speaker 2: really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
Speaker 2: the fence, and they was dead once you hit the ground.
Speaker 2: I didn't seen any cars. All I saw was my
Speaker 2: dog coming over the fence.
Speaker 1: Mad.
Speaker 2: What are you reporting? We got some wonder or something
Speaker 2: crawling around out here? Did you see what it was?
Speaker 2: It enough here looking them do the one down now
Speaker 2: and I don't need anything. I don't want to go outside. Hello,
Speaker 2: hit the fuddy out here? What quin on out there?
Speaker 2: I thought of a bitch about text nine. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Easy am out there? Yeah, I'm walking right heady.
Speaker 1: Folks, will welcome our guest to the show. It is
Speaker 1: justin from Tennessee.
Speaker 3: Welcome man, hey man, Thank you for having me. I
Speaker 3: appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I am glad to have you. It was nice meeting
Speaker 1: you and talking to you up in Gatlinburg. What just
Speaker 1: last weekend? Man? Time flies when you're having fun up
Speaker 1: at the Smoky Mountain Bigfoot Conference. Nikki and Marty always
Speaker 1: do a fantastic job putting on that event. I've been
Speaker 1: up there, gosh the last four or five years and
Speaker 1: always meet some very interesting people there. You are no exception, man.
Speaker 1: You came up to the booth. We had a conversation.
Speaker 1: We got into some topics that most people in Bigfoot
Speaker 1: don't get deep in the weeds on. Why don't you
Speaker 1: start with the question I always ask everybody who comes
Speaker 1: on the show, what got you interested in the subject
Speaker 1: of sasquatch Bigfoot to begin with?
Speaker 3: Honestly, I had got thirty thousand foot view of Bigfoot
Speaker 3: and the Sasquatch. I heard the stories and the legend
Speaker 3: and the overall arching theme of it. But I was
Speaker 3: never what you would call a Bigfoot enthusiast. Just one
Speaker 3: day I was talking with someboddies and Sasquatch came up.
Speaker 3: I was just reading through the Book of Genesis and
Speaker 3: Esau just popped in my head. And when you go
Speaker 3: to Genesis twenty five twenty five, there it says the
Speaker 3: first one came out red, covered in hair from head
Speaker 3: to toe like a Harry Cloak. I was like man
Speaker 3: if we just let the text say what it says. Man,
Speaker 3: that dude sounds pretty squatchy. So I asked the question
Speaker 3: to myself, was this the first bigfoot sasquatch that was
Speaker 3: recorded in the Bible? And it just sent me off
Speaker 3: on this little trail. And I found that there was
Speaker 3: several men in the Biblical text that was described as
Speaker 3: harry wild men. That's just kind of lost in the
Speaker 3: English translations. You got to go back to the Hebrew
Speaker 3: the Greek. But man, they're in there.
Speaker 1: I've had conversations with people in the past that have
Speaker 1: said they think these things are the nephelum. That's a
Speaker 1: hard pill for me to swallow. I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 1: If I had to plant a flag in a camp,
Speaker 1: and I hate to do that, but it is what
Speaker 1: it is. You've got the flesh and blood camp, You've
Speaker 1: got the wu or high strangeness camp, or as I
Speaker 1: like to call it, the other camp. Because there's so
Speaker 1: much that goes into that. It's difficult for me to
Speaker 1: wrap my brain around some of these stories. But I
Speaker 1: tell you, I was having a conversation earlier recording another
Speaker 1: podcast that I host, that Bigfoot podcast, and I had
Speaker 1: a PhD on there doctor Hogan, Chiau and Hogan and
Speaker 1: I were having a conversation about some of these other
Speaker 1: things weird experiences people have, glowing eyes, these things seeming
Speaker 1: to disappear and appear at will, cloaking all the weird
Speaker 1: stuff that goes into them. And I tell you, some
Speaker 1: of the things that you're talking about right now would
Speaker 1: make sense to me to answer some of the questions
Speaker 1: of how that's possible, because it wouldn't be possible. Like
Speaker 1: glowing eyes. For example, I had an experience last summer
Speaker 1: when I was out in the Pacific Northwest. I saw
Speaker 1: these things three times in two days, two times at night,
Speaker 1: and one of those times, when I had an encounter
Speaker 1: ten feet away from these creatures, I saw glowing white eyes,
Speaker 1: self illuminating, bioluminescent type eyes. That does not compute when
Speaker 1: it comes to human beings or great apes. We don't
Speaker 1: have it to pay them, loose at them. We don't
Speaker 1: have the ability to even give off any type of
Speaker 1: eye shine when somebody shines a light in our eyes.
Speaker 1: So glowing eyes certainly don't make any sense for a
Speaker 1: flesh and blood creature. If you're a hominin, whether it
Speaker 1: be human, greade ape, whatever the case may be. So
Speaker 1: it would certainly explain some of those stranger aspects. But
Speaker 1: as you got deeper into this, did you look into
Speaker 1: all of those different mentions of these things in the Bible?
Speaker 1: You were so interested in it you ended up writing
Speaker 1: a book, which we'll obviously get into. You're into Genesis,
Speaker 1: you're reading that, Hey, maybe this is the first Bigfoot?
Speaker 1: How did that progress from there and to where you
Speaker 1: are today in your research?
Speaker 3: Honestly, that was the gateway to it all. And then,
Speaker 3: like I said, I asked myself, was this the only one?
Speaker 3: Was this the first one? So I just started going
Speaker 3: through and I'm a big scripture nerd. I have a
Speaker 3: couple of podcasts that I do. One of them is
Speaker 3: with a group of my buddies, and that's what we do.
Speaker 3: We just go through and use like logos Bible software,
Speaker 3: and go to the original languages, the Greek and the
Speaker 3: Hebrew and really break these words down because there's a
Speaker 3: lot of stuff that just lost in the English translations
Speaker 3: and the historical context. This is an ancient book written
Speaker 3: to ancient people, So if you want to get the
Speaker 3: proper message that they were trying to lay down. You
Speaker 3: got to put yourself in their mindset, what they believe,
Speaker 3: what they thought, and coins of phrases that they used,
Speaker 3: and it's kind of lost to us in modernity. So
Speaker 3: when I got to looking through there, I was like,
Speaker 3: was there any more? Was this the first one? So
Speaker 3: that I got to look and going through the Bible
Speaker 3: and also extra biblical books like the Midrashes and Targums,
Speaker 3: because these are the people, the Second Timple Jews, that
Speaker 3: were writing this text. When I got to going through it,
Speaker 3: I also discovered this book series. It's like a six
Speaker 3: book series called the Legends of the Jews by Lewis Ginsburg.
Speaker 3: He went through and gathered all the oral traditions and
Speaker 3: legends of the peoples and put them all in these
Speaker 3: series of books. And as I started going through it,
Speaker 3: I had found that it was the ancient belief and
Speaker 3: the legend and the lore of these people that came.
Speaker 3: His cursing was that he was covered in hair, and
Speaker 3: that is why he was scared to death when he
Speaker 3: was cast out, because he looks like this harry beast
Speaker 3: and he was worried about someone killing it. And then
Speaker 3: according to the the Midrash, it says that when you
Speaker 3: get down to Lamet, and he's a guy in the Bible,
Speaker 3: that just all of a sudden, he comes home to
Speaker 3: his wives and he says of Cane's cursing, was time seven,
Speaker 3: Mine be seven, time seven, because I killed a man,
Speaker 3: and in my anger killed a youth. And when you
Speaker 3: go to the Midrashes, it gives you some more contexts
Speaker 3: that story. It says that Lemeck was going blind in
Speaker 3: his older age, and his son would help him hunt.
Speaker 3: So his son would help him point his bow and
Speaker 3: help him to hunt and get this game. And one
Speaker 3: day out in the field, his son sees this hairy beast,
Speaker 3: tells his father's where to aim and to shoot, and
Speaker 3: shoots his bow, kills the beast, and when they walk up,
Speaker 3: he discovers that it is his ancestor came and so
Speaker 3: he knew he'd messed up. Cursing was going to follow
Speaker 3: on him, according to the legends and stories. So then
Speaker 3: in his anger he turns and kills his son for
Speaker 3: the mistake. So the Midrash kind of fills in the
Speaker 3: gaps that where Genesis leaves off. That's why he come home,
Speaker 3: and he was so devastated and he said, I'm cursed.
Speaker 3: Not only did I kill a man, I killed a
Speaker 3: youth in my anger, so he killed his son from
Speaker 3: the mistake. And I thought that was pretty wild. So
Speaker 3: then I kept looking at more and then I bumped
Speaker 3: into the story of Nebuka Neezzar, And that's a story
Speaker 3: I was familiar with, but I hadn't looked at it
Speaker 3: with this context, with this set of eyes. And it
Speaker 3: says that this king suddenly becomes mad and he goes
Speaker 3: off into the wilderness. And it says that his hair
Speaker 3: grows long as the eagles feathers, and that his nails
Speaker 3: grow along like eagles talents, and that he just goes wild,
Speaker 3: and that he roams with the beast of the field,
Speaker 3: eats the grass like oxen, and that he's like this
Speaker 3: for seven years and then the curse is lifted off
Speaker 3: of him and he returned. So I was like, this
Speaker 3: kind of fits the bill once again. This is this
Speaker 3: hairy quote unquote wild man in the text. Like I said,
Speaker 3: I had a thirty thousand foot view of Bigfoot, and
Speaker 3: this kind of got me into it. And I think
Speaker 3: that's one thing that's different with me. How you had
Speaker 3: mentioned you have people in camps. Some people thinks it's this,
Speaker 3: some people thinks it's that I'm that guy. Honestly, I
Speaker 3: never think things are that cut and dry. It's usually
Speaker 3: not this or that, it's this and that. It's like
Speaker 3: a mixture of things. And where I come into this,
Speaker 3: I had no predispositions. A lot of people when they
Speaker 3: get into things, they have their idea of what it is,
Speaker 3: and they go and search for nuggets and factoids to
Speaker 3: try to back up their idea. So where I come
Speaker 3: in this clean slate, I had no predispositions and preconceived notions.
Speaker 3: And honestly, as I got to look and I found
Speaker 3: all the old stories from Europe and basically all around
Speaker 3: the world, this is a phenomenon that is culture blind,
Speaker 3: it is time blind. I just removed the verbiage and
Speaker 3: just looked at common themes and characteristics in these stories,
Speaker 3: and without fail, you had all the characteristics of bigfoot.
Speaker 3: Back then they called it a wild man. And then
Speaker 3: you have all these fertility gods throughout the ancient world,
Speaker 3: and without fail, at least ninety percent of them were
Speaker 3: covered in hair from head to toe, and they were
Speaker 3: considered wild men, and they roamed in the fields, the forests,
Speaker 3: and then you have the satyrs half goat men. I
Speaker 3: just kept bumping into this stuff and I was like,
Speaker 3: this has to be the same thing. When I found Esau,
Speaker 3: I just started really deep diving into him. So not
Speaker 3: only did it say that he was covered in had
Speaker 3: to toe like a Harry Cloak. I got to look
Speaker 3: in through the genealogies, and this is something that a
Speaker 3: lot of people just skim over, and I did for
Speaker 3: a long time because it's boring. This one forgot that,
Speaker 3: this one forgot that, and this one lived this many
Speaker 3: years and forgot this one and died and went to
Speaker 3: be with their ancestors. But they put that stuff in
Speaker 3: there for a reason. And it wasn't until I discovered
Speaker 3: Gary Wayne and his book The Genesis sixth Conspiracy, and
Speaker 3: he really did a really great job at running through
Speaker 3: these genealogies with the fine tooth comb. Through his work,
Speaker 3: I found out that Esau, when he basically went into
Speaker 3: full rebellion of his family, that he took three wives,
Speaker 3: and two of those wives were Canaanites, and they were
Speaker 3: forbid to take wives from these Canaanite people. One of
Speaker 3: them was from the clan of Whoites and the other
Speaker 3: was Heavites. Through all the genealogies and stuff that Gary
Speaker 3: had went through, he had proved that those two clans
Speaker 3: were Nephilim giant clans. I was like, here we have
Speaker 3: this Harry quote unquote man, this Sasquatch sounding guy marrying
Speaker 3: into Nephlim giant clans and marrying them. I was like,
Speaker 3: this has a pretty high potential of throwing some strange pups,
Speaker 3: to say the least. So when I got to looking
Speaker 3: through what came out of his offspring, out of his
Speaker 3: lineage with these Nephilim giant clans, and it says that
Speaker 3: one of his father in laws was named Sierra and
Speaker 3: that he reigned from Mount Sierra. And when you get
Speaker 3: into the Hebrew etymology of that word, that means Harry.
Speaker 3: And I was like, so here you go. You have
Speaker 3: this Harry Sasquatch sounding man marrying into Nephilim giant clans
Speaker 3: who there names that they're known to be Harry. So
Speaker 3: basically you have this race of Harry Farrell giants. And
Speaker 3: once again remove the verbage and just look at the
Speaker 3: common characteristics and the descriptors. This fits the bill for
Speaker 3: a bigfoot or a Sasquatch. And as I kept going
Speaker 3: even deeper from this union is burst this guy named Amalek,
Speaker 3: and he bursts the Amalekite race. And when you go
Speaker 3: into the etymology of that name, that means the blood liquors.
Speaker 3: And I was like, whoa, the blood liquors. Okay, I
Speaker 3: remember that name, the Amalekites. This was the tribe that
Speaker 3: the God's people encountered first while they were in their
Speaker 3: wilderness wanderings when they left the land of Egypt, and
Speaker 3: they ended up having this battle with them. And this
Speaker 3: battle is significant that this is that famous story where
Speaker 3: Moses has to take his supernatural rod, his staff that
Speaker 3: he caused all the plays of Egypt with that he
Speaker 3: has to go to a high mountain and hold this
Speaker 3: staff over his head to overcome these clans of farll giants.
Speaker 3: And it says that when he would tire and he
Speaker 3: would lower his arms, that the Amalekites would start to
Speaker 3: win again. So I thought that was significant. But when
Speaker 3: I was going through the extra biblical text in some
Speaker 3: of the rabbi's writings, there was this medieval rabbi by
Speaker 3: the name of Rashi, and he did a commentary on
Speaker 3: the mid Rashes and the Torah, and when it got
Speaker 3: to this part of the book and story, he goes
Speaker 3: into great detail about this Amalekite race, and he says
Speaker 3: that they were known sorcerers, and that they were known
Speaker 3: shape shifters, and that they would shape shift to evade capture.
Speaker 3: So he said, that's why when they were attacking the
Speaker 3: Amalekite race that God said kill every man, woman, child,
Speaker 3: and animal, because these guys were known sorcerers and shape shifters.
Speaker 3: I thought it was pretty telling. While the Israelites are
Speaker 3: in their wilderness wanderings, this is the time where you
Speaker 3: have the books of Deuteronomy Leviticus, and that's where you
Speaker 3: get a lot of your laws. But you don't get
Speaker 3: a law, a rule, or regulation unless someone's doing these
Speaker 3: said things. But we know from the biblical text that
Speaker 3: the Amalekites were the ones that they encountered first. I
Speaker 3: think it's pretty telling when we look at those I
Speaker 3: think that we're looking at the practices of these people
Speaker 3: that were known Faral giants from the offspring of Esau
Speaker 3: and Neffhelin giant clans. When you get in there, what
Speaker 3: does it say. This is in Deuteronomy, it says, no
Speaker 3: longer will you sacrifice to Harry goat demons. And then
Speaker 3: the Book of Isaiah says, and you have to go
Speaker 3: to the septuagen the Greek language for this, But in
Speaker 3: that translation it says that the wild men and the
Speaker 3: satyrs will dance in the desolate cities and in the wilderness.
Speaker 3: And when you go back to the laws, says, not
Speaker 3: only will you not only sacrifice to harry God demons,
Speaker 3: it says you will no longer pass your children through
Speaker 3: the fire. It says you will not seek necromancers or sorcerers.
Speaker 3: You will no longer drink the blood, because the life
Speaker 3: is in the blood. The name of this tribe it
Speaker 3: means blood liquors. And we know that they were sorcerers
Speaker 3: and shape shifters.
Speaker 1: And stay tuned for more sasquatch oat to see. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back after these.
Speaker 3: Messages drinking the blood. And the Phoenicians and Canaanites were
Speaker 3: known to worship bail and pass their children through the fire.
Speaker 3: They were obviously seeing these people out in the wilderness
Speaker 3: and seeing their practices and what they were doing, and
Speaker 3: they were trying to mimic them, and God had to
Speaker 3: step in and be like, no, you can't be doing this.
Speaker 3: You're not going to be doing the practice of these people.
Speaker 3: So I thought that was pretty fascinating. And when I
Speaker 3: was kind of looking at this overall picture, like I
Speaker 3: said earlier, it wasn't this, it wasn't that, And they
Speaker 3: put a red bow on it for me and tied
Speaker 3: it all together. Because when you go into the Book
Speaker 3: of Enoch and you get to the Genesis six event,
Speaker 3: it says in Genesis six that the angels came down
Speaker 3: and bred with the dollars of men and created Nephilim giants.
Speaker 3: And the Book of Enoch says that these giants that
Speaker 3: were created that their spirit was not of heaven and
Speaker 3: not of earth. So therefore when they died, their spirit
Speaker 3: had nowhere to go, but they roamed earth as demons,
Speaker 3: tormenting mankind. So you have this Harry quote unquote man
Speaker 3: Esau marrying into Nephilim giant clans whose names mean that
Speaker 3: they're Harry that are described as Harry Farrell giants, and
Speaker 3: they make these Amalekites you have a really high probability
Speaker 3: of throwing some strange pups. And they were known sorcerers
Speaker 3: and shape shifters and drank blood and all this kind
Speaker 3: of stuff. Not only does this fit the description of
Speaker 3: what we would call a bigfoot today. So you have
Speaker 3: the Flesh and Blood camp. So is there a possibility
Speaker 3: that there's a remnant of these people left? I think
Speaker 3: so it's a possibility. There were known cave dwellers and
Speaker 3: they were known as mighty hunters. They have intelligence as
Speaker 3: a human hybrid. I tell people it's like the panda.
Speaker 3: The panda was only discovered in the last hundred years,
Speaker 3: but there was legends and laura about it for thousands
Speaker 3: of years, but everybody treated it like the Bigfoot. Oh,
Speaker 3: that's made up. That's fairytale stuff. That's stuff parents tell
Speaker 3: their kids to keep them out of the woods and pandas.
Speaker 3: If you've ever been around pandas or watched them, they're
Speaker 3: dumb creatures. And if they can avoid being seen, captured
Speaker 3: or killed for thousands of years, we're talking about a
Speaker 3: human hybrid that was a mighty hunter dwells in the
Speaker 3: caves with intelligence. I don't think it's far fetched that
Speaker 3: we've not seen capture or killed one. And that at
Speaker 3: the same time you have the Wu camp, and like
Speaker 3: you said, there phasing in out of reality, a shadow,
Speaker 3: figures and portals and aliens, saucers and stuff sometimes connected
Speaker 3: with these things. So that ties into the demon part.
Speaker 3: If my theory holds water, and these are hybrid race
Speaker 3: of feral giants. When they passed away, their spirits remain
Speaker 3: to torment mankind. So would they not choose a familiar form?
Speaker 3: I think they would. This was a form that commanded
Speaker 3: fear in respect. And so I think when I look
Speaker 3: at that of the holistic picture, the theory that I'm
Speaker 3: coming up with covers both sides of the fence.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play Devil's advocate for the pun and just
Speaker 1: to play Devil's advocate here. As I said earlier that explanation,
Speaker 1: if it were one or all, or a combination of
Speaker 1: all of those things, it would explain some of the
Speaker 1: more unexplainable things about these creatures. Again, Hogan and I
Speaker 1: were having this conversation earlier today where we were talking
Speaker 1: about the superhero nests. If you will, of bigfoot sasquatch,
Speaker 1: airy man, whatever language you use to identify them, they
Speaker 1: seem to be the biggest, the baddest, the fastest, the
Speaker 1: slowest at times, the smartest, the loudest. They're the everything
Speaker 1: ist of all of the animal kingdom, and it literally
Speaker 1: makes no sense in biology. I use the comparison of
Speaker 1: an elephant to a cheetah with Hogan earlier today. Elephants
Speaker 1: are humongous. I think the biggest elephant that's ever been
Speaker 1: documented was back in the nineties. It was a bullet
Speaker 1: elephant that weighed like twenty six thousand pounds. But you
Speaker 1: have a cheetah. They're one of, if not the fastest
Speaker 1: animal on earth. Where you compare those two, they're extraordinary
Speaker 1: in their own ways. But as Hogan pointed out earlier
Speaker 1: today during our conversation, cheetahs and elephants have had to
Speaker 1: sacrifice things in their evolution to get the traits that
Speaker 1: they have. Elephants they're not fast, right, They're huge, they're powerful,
Speaker 1: they're highly intelligent mammals, but they're not as fast as
Speaker 1: a cheetah. A cheetah is faster than an elephant and
Speaker 1: most other animals, but they're very delicate physically. Their bodies
Speaker 1: are delicate. They avoid confrontation at all costs because of that,
Speaker 1: so they've sacrificed their robustness. Let's say of an elephant,
Speaker 1: to be as fast as a cheetah is some of
Speaker 1: the things that people attribute to sasquatch during their anecdotal experiences.
Speaker 1: I've experienced it myself. It was there and then it disappeared.
Speaker 1: I'm using the air quotes disappeared. I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: bigfoot disappeared into a portal or evaporated. I think they
Speaker 1: blend in very well with their environment, but it is
Speaker 1: difficult to explain how big and fast they are. But
Speaker 1: they're very quiet and stealthy, or they can emit infrac
Speaker 1: you feel their vocalizations as well as hear them. There's
Speaker 1: all of these things. So again I go back to
Speaker 1: what you're saying, I think it would certainly account for some,
Speaker 1: if not all, of those attributes that. Let's face it,
Speaker 1: this is the other thing. I think we have to
Speaker 1: be realistic about people sharing their encounter stories. There's a
Speaker 1: lot that goes on. There's a lot of fear, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of adrenaline, there's a lot of things happening
Speaker 1: when these encounters happen. So I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people exaggerate. Maybe they're six feet tall and they think
Speaker 1: it's ten feet tall. Maybe it was fast, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't as fast as they thought. So all of these
Speaker 1: things right, But at the end of the day, it
Speaker 1: goes back to believe your theory and to believe that
Speaker 1: they are some sort of a remnant of some of
Speaker 1: these things that you've described. You would have to believe
Speaker 1: those stories. You would have to believe that is true.
Speaker 1: What do you say to people like me who may
Speaker 1: be agnostic in that area, or even an atheist or
Speaker 1: someone who doesn't ascribe to these biblical stories being real
Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, what is your argument
Speaker 1: or where are you on that as far as your
Speaker 1: theory is concerned, linking that to sasquatch or Bigfoot, and
Speaker 1: someone who says, hey, I don't believe that to begin with,
Speaker 1: So I certainly don't believe that your theory holds water,
Speaker 1: because in order for that to be I'd have to
Speaker 1: believe that Where are you on that discrepancy?
Speaker 3: That's one thing I honestly think that sets me apart
Speaker 3: from different researchers. I am a Christian, but I'm one
Speaker 3: of those firm believers that truth is universal, and I
Speaker 3: love comparative mythology, comparative religion, and I like to look
Speaker 3: for common themes. So when you have a story or
Speaker 3: a figure that transcends all languages, cultures, and continents, that
Speaker 3: tells me that there has to be something to that.
Speaker 3: I don't think that my religion in my text has
Speaker 3: all the answers and all the truth in it that
Speaker 3: scattered about. So I tell people, even if you don't
Speaker 3: align yourself with the biblical narrative, I can show you
Speaker 3: multiple narratives around the world that say basically the same
Speaker 3: thing that I'm telling you. There might be some little
Speaker 3: different caveats, they might call it a different name, but
Speaker 3: the characteristics in common themes are all there. One example,
Speaker 3: when you go to Native Americans, the Native American Lord,
Speaker 3: what did they say? They say that the star people
Speaker 3: came down and bred with their women, stole their women,
Speaker 3: and there was the giants born from their union, and
Speaker 3: that these giants they battled with them. And you have
Speaker 3: all the legends of the city kr the stone skinned giants,
Speaker 3: all of these stories. You have the story of the
Speaker 3: city car with the Lovelock Cave, that they chased them
Speaker 3: in this cave and burn them up. You go to Europe,
Speaker 3: you have all the stories of the wild man, these
Speaker 3: stories that they roam the woods, and that they would
Speaker 3: storm these villages. And what do they do? Every single time,
Speaker 3: they steal goods, they're stealing food, they're stealing animals, and
Speaker 3: some rare occasions they take girls and women and they
Speaker 3: rape them, and then they record that there's these hairy
Speaker 3: children born from the girls when they return them. You
Speaker 3: have all the stories of Crampus in Europe. He's this
Speaker 3: hairy beast covered in hair man that abducts children and women.
Speaker 3: Then you go down to Sardinia, they have this archaic practice.
Speaker 3: And when you ask the people of this today, they
Speaker 3: can't even tell you why they do it or where
Speaker 3: it's started. They have guesses and theories, but they don't know.
Speaker 3: It's so archaic. They've just done it as long as
Speaker 3: they can remember. But on the winter solstice, the men
Speaker 3: covered themselves and black goats fur from head to toe,
Speaker 3: and they called a wooden mask and put on their face,
Speaker 3: and then they put hundreds of copper bells on their backs.
Speaker 3: And then they dance through the streets and they chase
Speaker 3: and abduct women. And at the same time they light
Speaker 3: huge bonfires, and the children that are coming of age
Speaker 3: to prove their bravery it's kind of like the bar Mitzvah.
Speaker 3: Doing these things makes them an adults, like their right
Speaker 3: of passage. But what they have to do is they
Speaker 3: have to jump through the fire. Once again, we go
Speaker 3: back to these Amalekites and these Canaanites, because what do
Speaker 3: they do They passed their children through the fire. You
Speaker 3: go to India, you have stories of the wild men
Speaker 3: there too, and they even have their own sasquat stories.
Speaker 3: I can't remember what they called them, but I did
Speaker 3: the research on booking. I had a list of all
Speaker 3: the different countries and what they call them. But there's actual,
Speaker 3: historical documented people covered in hair from head to toe.
Speaker 3: But most people, when you bring up bigfoot, they laugh,
Speaker 3: they scoff, they don't even try to look further into
Speaker 3: it if they don't believe this. But science even has
Speaker 3: definitions and terms for these things. It's called hypertrixosis with
Speaker 3: hypertrick sosis. And there's many documented cases of children born
Speaker 3: covered in hair. And there was people recorded in India
Speaker 3: and this guy, he was a part of the king's court,
Speaker 3: and this traveler, this documented guy that done all this
Speaker 3: historical work and stuff and documented everything. He documented. This
Speaker 3: guy had his name in there left and he came
Speaker 3: back twenty years later and the guy was still alive.
Speaker 3: But he had a family. He was married and he
Speaker 3: had children, and two of his children had the same
Speaker 3: thing that were covered in hair from head to toe.
Speaker 3: One that's really famous that was historically documented and painted
Speaker 3: was this guy named Pedro Gomez. When you look him up, man,
Speaker 3: you type in his name and searts him up. He
Speaker 3: looks like something from that teen Wolf movie. He's covered
Speaker 3: in hair, but he's dressed real nigh like a nobleman.
Speaker 3: He was thoroughly documented because he was in the King's
Speaker 3: court of France, and his story is that he was
Speaker 3: basically thrown into the wilderness and cast aside because his
Speaker 3: parents thought he was a demon baby. And people at
Speaker 3: this time that were born like this, they were either
Speaker 3: killed throughout in the wilderness defend from themselves and they
Speaker 3: starved to death, or they were picked up and brought
Speaker 3: into freak shows. And here's where you get all your
Speaker 3: stories and newspapers about the wolfman and the bearded Lady.
Speaker 3: These are people science would turn with hypertrixosis. And this
Speaker 3: Pedro guy, he was snatched up by these traders and
Speaker 3: was given to the King of France as a gift.
Speaker 3: Luckily for him, this king loved him so much. He
Speaker 3: loved him like a son and basically took him in
Speaker 3: as a son, adopted him, give him a place in court,
Speaker 3: dressed him in the finest clothes, sent him to the
Speaker 3: finest schools to be a lawyer. And he lived with
Speaker 3: the king all of the king's days. And then when
Speaker 3: the king died, he wrote in his will that he
Speaker 3: wanted Pedro to have his own lands, to be made
Speaker 3: a lord and have a castle, and even arrange for
Speaker 3: him a marriage so that he could have the closest
Speaker 3: thing to a normal life. He was arranged a marriage
Speaker 3: with this woman named Elizabeth, and they had three children,
Speaker 3: and two of those children were covered in hair from
Speaker 3: head to toe, and they were girls, and they're depicted
Speaker 3: and painted throughout history. They even have a family portrait
Speaker 3: of all of them together. There's the dad looking like
Speaker 3: something now teen wolf, and the two little girls in
Speaker 3: pink dresses covered in hair from head to toe, and
Speaker 3: Elizabeth sitting there with them. And I think they had
Speaker 3: a third child, a boy. He was normal, But a
Speaker 3: lot of people missed that. The story of Beauty and
Speaker 3: the beast was based off of this man. If you
Speaker 3: don't align with the biblical Marriatim, that's fine. I can
Speaker 3: show you many stories throughout the world and cultures that
Speaker 3: all rhyme and sound just the same.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. For some people, this
Speaker 1: is something I've learned over the last few years. I
Speaker 1: used to think everybody who was into the Bigfoot thing
Speaker 1: was in it for the same reasons. Couldn't have been
Speaker 1: farther from the truth. There are people out there, though,
Speaker 1: who do want these creatures recognized by science, and I
Speaker 1: feel that I fall into that camp. It's not the
Speaker 1: end all be all for me because I've had my experiences,
Speaker 1: I've seen these things. I am one hundred percent convinced
Speaker 1: I'm a knowwhere that they're real. That's pretty much the
Speaker 1: end of the line for me as far as that goes.
Speaker 1: Would I like them to be recognized by science, Yes,
Speaker 1: But if they're not, I would be okay with that
Speaker 1: as well, because I think that opens a whole other
Speaker 1: can of worms for them and for us and for
Speaker 1: everybody involved in the situation if science is involved. But
Speaker 1: it is a huge thing for a lot of people
Speaker 1: in the community, and I can tell you that just
Speaker 1: with the flesh and blood and the high strangeness or
Speaker 1: WU camp, there is a huge divide because I think
Speaker 1: the majority of the animosity, if you will, if that's
Speaker 1: the correct term, from say the people on the flesh
Speaker 1: and blood side, is that all the craziness or the
Speaker 1: high strangeness of the WU camp keeps science at bay.
Speaker 1: Meaning because of all the weird things that people claim,
Speaker 1: science isn't touching Bigfoot with a ten foot pole. Now,
Speaker 1: there are some closeted PhDs and academics out there that
Speaker 1: are into Bigfoot. I know some of them. They're a
Speaker 1: part of some groups that meet regularly honestly in complete
Speaker 1: anonymity because of their connection to academia. But there are
Speaker 1: people in academy that are interested. Yet because of some
Speaker 1: of the people who claim that they come out of
Speaker 1: portals or they're dropped off by aliens and alien craft,
Speaker 1: science is not going to touch it. Let me ask
Speaker 1: you this, if to ascribe to your hypothesis or your
Speaker 1: theory on this, how do you think or do you
Speaker 1: think that if it's true, maybe you're one hundred percent right.
Speaker 1: Do you think that affects whether or not academia is
Speaker 1: ever going to get involved in the hunt for the
Speaker 1: search for recognizing these creatures as a real thing, and
Speaker 1: stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm kind of like you because of the encounters
Speaker 3: that people have had, the testimony of the highest strangeness
Speaker 3: that kind of wants them to just push that away,
Speaker 3: even if in the back of their mind they're like, man,
Speaker 3: if one of these stories is true, we have to
Speaker 3: check it out. But they never will out of fear
Speaker 3: of being ostracized, made fun of, lose their tenure, get
Speaker 3: fired from their jobs for years and years of work
Speaker 3: that's not even related to bigfoot be thrown into that camp,
Speaker 3: and people not even look at them anymore because of
Speaker 3: this one thing. It does that it paints you in a box.
Speaker 3: But I believe if you use to separate the whole
Speaker 3: spiritual side of it, of my theory, and just focused
Speaker 3: on the physical side, I think that would in the
Speaker 3: minds of academia and the big brain people would be
Speaker 3: more feasible to look into it. Because I'm saying that
Speaker 3: this is a race of humanoid. I ain't going to
Speaker 3: say direct the human but a humanoid species that's just
Speaker 3: covered in hair, basically feral, tall people that just went wild.
Speaker 3: Because science believes, and it's observable. You can take a
Speaker 3: domesticated pig, when you take it out into the wild,
Speaker 3: it goes feral. It's programmed into its DNA, it covers
Speaker 3: in hair, it grows long tusks. So we know that
Speaker 3: science gets down with that. And then also there's scientific,
Speaker 3: documented evidence it's been observed, written down as talked about
Speaker 3: that in certain situations humans do this too, it's built
Speaker 3: into our DNA. I read this and it blew my mind,
Speaker 3: and it said that when your body goes into starvation
Speaker 3: mode anorexia, and it's compared to being out in the
Speaker 3: elements and the cold, your body is the most survival
Speaker 3: tool mechanism that there is. It wants to survive, it
Speaker 3: will adapt and do things, and they have recorded and documented.
Speaker 3: Science knows this. It's in the books that in those
Speaker 3: conditions that the people will go feral, they'll grow fine
Speaker 3: hair all over their entire body as a defense mechanism
Speaker 3: against the cold and starvation. So I think if we
Speaker 3: focused just on the physical side of my theory, they're
Speaker 3: already saying they agree with these things. I think it's
Speaker 3: just that stigma of the other side and the experiences
Speaker 3: that people have. They just scoff and laugh and don't
Speaker 3: even look any further into it. But if they are
Speaker 3: actually looking into the science, the things that I'm talking
Speaker 3: about here is already documented and they already believe it anyway.
Speaker 1: So I guess that brings me to another question. As
Speaker 1: you're talking, I'm trying to figure out in my brain,
Speaker 1: So I'll just ask you what you think about where
Speaker 1: you fall in the flesh and blood versus the high
Speaker 1: strangeness with your theory? Do you think it qualifies, for
Speaker 1: lack of a better term, a hybrid between the two.
Speaker 1: I know you're talking, let's focus on the flesh and blood,
Speaker 1: let's focus on the science part of it. But again,
Speaker 1: there is some supernatural I don't know what the word is,
Speaker 1: there's some supernatural things that go along with your Where
Speaker 1: do you think that would fall if you're planning a
Speaker 1: flag in either one hundred percent flesh and blood and
Speaker 1: one hundred percent wo or high strangeness. Where does Justin's
Speaker 1: theory fall in between those two?
Speaker 3: I was trying to maybe I'm doing a really bad
Speaker 3: job of articulated, but I'm in the middle. I think
Speaker 3: it is both. My hope would be is nobody's going
Speaker 3: to accept any kind of idea or theory unless they
Speaker 3: believe it's their idea. So somebody could be on this
Speaker 3: side of the fence, and somebody could be on this
Speaker 3: side of the fence, and they're screaming at each other,
Speaker 3: trying to tell each other how they're wrong and how
Speaker 3: their theory is right. It's never going to work. You're
Speaker 3: never going to change anybody's mind. But if you bring
Speaker 3: up points, point in certain directions, you know, just drop
Speaker 3: hints and point the way, and somebody actually looks and
Speaker 3: sees that and they're like, hey, I see this connection.
Speaker 3: In that connection, then they think it's their idea, it's
Speaker 3: not you shoving it down their throat. They're more prone
Speaker 3: to accept that. So with me talking about pointing to
Speaker 3: the flesh and blood for the big brains of university types,
Speaker 3: I'm hoping for that same kind of scenario, a domino effect,
Speaker 3: so to speak. So meet them on common ground where
Speaker 3: we both agree on something. Because you start a conversation
Speaker 3: with somebody and ask them a series of questions in
Speaker 3: the first three or four questions. They're like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: agree with that. Yeah, I agree with that, and you're like, okay,
Speaker 3: we're not so far apart here. And then you bring
Speaker 3: up something maybe they don't align with. They're more prone
Speaker 3: to hear you out and seek it out because you've
Speaker 3: already established a lot of common ground and they know
Speaker 3: you're not a whack of do crazy guy and that
Speaker 3: you guys have a lot of common ground. So it's
Speaker 3: my hope would be is like, okay, look over here
Speaker 3: at this, look at the pharaoh giants, look at the
Speaker 3: animals that turn farah, and we have scientifically documented that
Speaker 3: people can do the same thing. We have all these
Speaker 3: documented people in history. So therefore I'm not too far
Speaker 3: off here. We got a lot of common ground trust uscience, right,
Speaker 3: So what these guys like to say, I'm showing you
Speaker 3: and they're like, okay, maybe I could see that as
Speaker 3: a possibility. And they're like yeah, And by the way,
Speaker 3: I think they're a hybrid. Oh what do you mean.
Speaker 3: I bring up the Bible and they're like, oh, that's hogwash.
Speaker 3: Look at the Native American Low, look over here in
Speaker 3: Europe at their legends, and low look over here in India,
Speaker 3: their legends and low they're all the same. Is there
Speaker 3: some kernel of truth in all this? And get their mind?
Speaker 3: Really so, if you can get them to I'm hoping
Speaker 3: it'd be like a domino effect if you meet them
Speaker 3: on common ground and they see it and they're like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I can see this is a possibility, and then you
Speaker 3: bring up the other side that they would least entertain
Speaker 3: it and seek it out in the very least. At
Speaker 3: the end of the day, the best that you can
Speaker 3: hope for is them to say that's interesting, or Hey,
Speaker 3: that's possible. Do I think it's likely? I probably not. Hey,
Speaker 3: I can see your point, and I think it's possible.
Speaker 3: I think that's the best that we could hope for.
Speaker 1: We've mentioned it a couple of times. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: the book. You got so into this, you decided to
Speaker 1: put it into a book. Talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: that process. What people can expect when they go out
Speaker 1: and pick up the book.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The book it's called The Epic of Esau, the Birthright
Speaker 3: and Seed War. And like I said, some of the
Speaker 3: things that I've talked about today, this is all in
Speaker 3: the book. It's a fifteen chapter book. It's not all
Speaker 3: about Esau. Like I said, I dive into the science,
Speaker 3: what the science says about it, what the legends and
Speaker 3: the lore are around the world. I show you all
Speaker 3: the common themes, what the names are for these harry
Speaker 3: wild men, and build a case from the foundation up.
Speaker 3: And then I introduce you to people like Pedro Gomez.
Speaker 3: There's a couple other ones, but the names are slipping
Speaker 3: me now, but show you all those, and then I
Speaker 3: go into the biblical narratives. I'm like, okay, we also
Speaker 3: have this in the Bible. And then I show Esau
Speaker 3: and Cain and Ebuicnezar and some others like we talked
Speaker 3: about today. But then I really like dive into Esau.
Speaker 3: And like I said, I looked through the genealogies and
Speaker 3: found out he intermarried with these Nephlum giants and bred
Speaker 3: with them, and they were known as harry giants and
Speaker 3: the Amalekites and all the things that we talked about earlier.
Speaker 3: I found all kinds of other cool stuff. Because Esau
Speaker 3: the Bible is honestly one of the most enigmatic characters.
Speaker 3: You get just a little blurb about him, and then
Speaker 3: shume that goes on. It's Genesis six you get a
Speaker 3: little blurb and then they move on. You're like, WHOA,
Speaker 3: that's pretty important. I want some more context on this story.
Speaker 3: What I got to finding out was is it's kind
Speaker 3: of like the writers didn't want to theoretically beat a
Speaker 3: dead horse. You got to remember, this text wasn't written
Speaker 3: for us. It was written for the people at that time,
Speaker 3: and there was all kinds of legends and lore and
Speaker 3: other scrolls circulating us. As modern people, we see this
Speaker 3: Bible and we think this is a book they had,
Speaker 3: and it was circulating, and it was all put to
Speaker 3: get know, these were all separate scrolls and stories traveling
Speaker 3: around and much much later, they chose pick and choose
Speaker 3: what they wanted to go in this book and compile them.
Speaker 3: So when you go look and through these other extra
Speaker 3: biblical books, they were scrolls and stories and oral traditions
Speaker 3: that was circulating at the time. So you had the
Speaker 3: Book of Enoch. So I am of the opinion that
Speaker 3: the writer was like, Okay, I'm just going to give
Speaker 3: this a little blurb about Genesis six, because everybody already
Speaker 3: knows about the giants. Everybody knows we got the Book
Speaker 3: of Enoch. We got so many scrolls circulating about that.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to theoretically beat a dead horse here,
Speaker 3: but us thousands of years later, we don't know about
Speaker 3: those other stories. We don't know about those scrolls. So
Speaker 3: I think it's so important that we dive into that.
Speaker 3: And I think Eastau was an example of the very
Speaker 3: same thing. They were, Like, there's so many stories and
Speaker 3: oral legends about this guy. We don't need to go
Speaker 3: into great context about it. Everybody already knows, but we didn't.
Speaker 3: For instance, here's one thing that I found that was absolute,
Speaker 3: polutely fascinating was the Book of Jasher talks about Esau
Speaker 3: and it says that he was the Mighty Hunter. King
Speaker 3: Nimrod was also known as the Mighty Hunter, and it
Speaker 3: said that Nimrod had built up jealousy and hatred against
Speaker 3: Esau all of his days, and basically Gaston and beauty
Speaker 3: of the beast. He went out to kill this beast
Speaker 3: of a man and show who the real mighty man was.
Speaker 3: It's like a clash of the highlander. There can only
Speaker 3: be one baby, and he goes out with his group
Speaker 3: of mighty men and hunts him down. But he sees
Speaker 3: him coming while he's out in the wilderness hunting, and
Speaker 3: it says he hides itself and Nimrod in two of
Speaker 3: his other mighty men come walking by him, and he
Speaker 3: springs out in surprise and cuts off Nimrod's head and
Speaker 3: kills the other two guardsmen. And then it says that
Speaker 3: he takes the time to steal Nimrod's garments, and it
Speaker 3: says these garments were the reason why Nimrod was such
Speaker 3: a mighty man and was able to rule over all
Speaker 3: the nations. And then you go on through jash Or.
Speaker 3: I was like, what's so special about these garments? And
Speaker 3: it turns out that the Jewish belief true or not.
Speaker 3: This is what they believed, that these were the supernatural
Speaker 3: garments from the Garden of God given to Adam when
Speaker 3: he was kicked out of the garden, and this was
Speaker 3: basically a symbol of kingship and priesthood. And they traced
Speaker 3: it that it went from Adam to Enoch to Mathuselah
Speaker 3: to Noah. Noah had it on the boat and took
Speaker 3: it over the flood on the Ark, and it says
Speaker 3: that Ham the wicked Son and his going out stole
Speaker 3: those garments, and that's how Nimrod wound up with them,
Speaker 3: and it honestly ties into our Bible, our sixty six
Speaker 3: book Cannon, that famous story of the trading of the birthright,
Speaker 3: and that's the big thing everybody remembers about Esau. And
Speaker 3: to me, it never made sense because it says that
Speaker 3: this mighty hunter Esau comes in on the field one day,
Speaker 3: exhausted and his brother's making red stew and he comes
Speaker 3: in and says, give me some of that red stew
Speaker 3: and his brothers, yeah, sure, but to trade me your birthright.
Speaker 3: And then he replies, what uses of birthright to me?
Speaker 3: When I'm dead? Take it? And basically modern context, guys,
Speaker 3: is if your dad's Donald Trump and you're the eldest son,
Speaker 3: you're next in line. You're gonna get the billions of dollars.
Speaker 3: You're gonna get the company business. The keys of the
Speaker 3: kingdom are yours. And you come in one day and
Speaker 3: your younger brother sitting on the couch eating to Rito's,
Speaker 3: and you're like, hey, bro, give me some of them Dorito's.
Speaker 3: He's yeah, sure, sign over the company. Huh. Nobody would
Speaker 3: ever do that. It don't make sense. He was the
Speaker 3: mighty hunter, guys, he wouldn't starve. If he was starving,
Speaker 3: he would have went and killed a lion, had lion
Speaker 3: steak for supper. He was the mighty hunter for crying
Speaker 3: out loud.
Speaker 1: And stay tuned for more sasquatch oat to see. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back after these message.
Speaker 3: But when you get into that book at jash Or
Speaker 3: where he has that confrontation with Theimrod and steals the garments,
Speaker 3: it says that he goes home and hides the garments
Speaker 3: in his tent and then goes to his brother's tent.
Speaker 3: So it Douve tells perfectly. So he had this fight
Speaker 3: with three men, and Nimrod was even explained as a
Speaker 3: giant a gibble Rem in the Hebrew text. So he
Speaker 3: kills not one, not two, but three gible Rem single
Speaker 3: handedly in combat. He probably sustained some life threatening injuries.
Speaker 3: Modern context, he just killed the president and the president's guards.
Speaker 3: He's on the run, there's people looking for him. He's paranoid.
Speaker 3: He's scared, maybe sustain some life threatening injuries. So he
Speaker 3: comes into his brother's tent. Help me, hide me, sustain me,
Speaker 3: give me sustenance, and he's, yeah, i'll help you, but
Speaker 3: you're going to give me your birth right, and that's
Speaker 3: why it makes so much sense. That's why he said,
Speaker 3: what use is a birthright to me when I'm take it?
Speaker 3: And I just found all these other little stories like
Speaker 3: that through these extra biblical texts that just filled in
Speaker 3: so many gaps in the Bible, and these biblical stories
Speaker 3: that never made sense to me as a kid. So
Speaker 3: it was honestly just a really fun journey to go
Speaker 3: through and find stuff and gather these puzzle pieces and
Speaker 3: put them together. It gives me a whole new perspective
Speaker 3: and better understanding of a lot of just the enigmatic
Speaker 3: stories of the Bible. And honestly, it was a two
Speaker 3: year just deep dive obsession for me. So it was
Speaker 3: a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: It definitely sounds like a journey. Tell everybody where's the
Speaker 1: best place that they can go pick.
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