WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.640 --> 00:00:06.759 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:17.719 Sports Talk seven nine day. Now, here's Nick coffee. 3 00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:21.559 All right, let's get it start at five o'clock on 4 00:00:21.600 --> 00:00:25.079 a Wednesday afternoon, cold, very cold. 5 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:27.000 Actually, what's snowing on my way in? But I have 6 00:00:27.039 --> 00:00:27.399 no clue. 7 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:29.879 I've learned to stop giving you any kind of half 8 00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:33.759 assed weather update on this show, because once I walk 9 00:00:33.759 --> 00:00:37.079 in this building, I don't see I mean, actually, I 10 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:39.719 never really thought about it this way. Once I walk 11 00:00:39.799 --> 00:00:42.960 in here, I don't see any light until the next 12 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:46.079 morning when I wake up because there's no windows. When 13 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:48.159 I get out of here at like six o'clock, it's dark. 14 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:52.200 So I guess I should start saying goodbye to daylight 15 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:54.320 whenever I get here, even if it's like one o'clock. 16 00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:59.679 But anyways, it's cold outside and we had some snow 17 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:01.399 going on. I'm not sure what's going on now, but 18 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:06.319 I've talked up this snowstorm quite a bit this week, 19 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:08.480 just because I give the guys who projected it, the 20 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:10.719 guys and gals, the local mediorologists, and I guess anybody 21 00:01:10.719 --> 00:01:13.000 in meteorology that was predicting us getting a lot of 22 00:01:13.040 --> 00:01:17.040 snow they were right, and I'm fine with it. I 23 00:01:17.079 --> 00:01:18.760 don't you know, it's not really inconvenience me in a 24 00:01:18.799 --> 00:01:21.719 major way, and I happen to enjoy when we get 25 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:23.120 some snow. If it's going to be cold, might as 26 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:24.599 well get snow. That's the way I see it. So 27 00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:27.439 you know, I'm not been against it. Wouldn't mind getting 28 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:30.400 a little bit more. But this could just be fear mongering. However, 29 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:33.439 there are some folks that claim this region we'll have 30 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:37.519 the worst winter we've had in like decades, which that 31 00:01:37.560 --> 00:01:40.040 probably won't be fun for a lot of people because 32 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:41.920 at some point, you know, you get a little stir 33 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:44.239 crazy if you're snowed in and kids start missing school, 34 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:47.159 and that's usually an inconvenience for parents and that kind 35 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:50.359 of stuff. So we are getting more snow later this week. 36 00:01:50.359 --> 00:01:53.400 I guess on Friday we could get another good snowstorm. 37 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:56.439 And I think it's supposed to, I mean, because all 38 00:01:56.480 --> 00:01:58.640 we need is some warm weather to melt this and 39 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:00.959 then we're back. You know, it's kind of back to 40 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:03.319 how winter typically is around here, because to be honest 41 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:08.080 with you, we've had really really cold winters here and 42 00:02:08.120 --> 00:02:11.240 there without any snow. This has just been one where 43 00:02:11.240 --> 00:02:13.360 we've actually, at least as of the last few days, 44 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:15.120 we've had a lot of snow that we typically don't get. 45 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:18.719 So I think Sunday. 46 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:21.319 We'll get temperatures above freezing and then it's all gonna melt. 47 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:25.639 And who knows, Maybe they're wrong and this isn't some 48 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:28.719 crazy bad winter when it comes to winter weather. Maybe 49 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:30.400 it's just the one off storm we just have, but 50 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:32.599 we shall see. But I love this time of year 51 00:02:32.680 --> 00:02:35.400 because college basketball seems to really get roll and everybody's 52 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:37.719 playing conference games. Last night it was a big night 53 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:40.719 in college basketball, Louisville of course, coming out on the 54 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:42.560 winning end once again. We'll get back into that. As 55 00:02:42.599 --> 00:02:44.520 you could imagine. We've discussed that quite a bit. 56 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:44.759 Today. 57 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:47.840 Kentucky takes a loss on the road, and I think 58 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:51.159 it's just a reminder this team, when they're good and 59 00:02:51.199 --> 00:02:53.840 it's at their pace, they can beat anybody. But they 60 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:57.360 also are vulnerable if it's the opposite, meaning it's not 61 00:02:57.479 --> 00:03:02.400 at their pace. College basketballs and is really getting getting 62 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:05.080 geared up, and then of course you've got college football 63 00:03:05.080 --> 00:03:05.960 playoffs about. 64 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:07.840 To uh to come to an end. 65 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:10.000 We'll find a champion in college football, which again this 66 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:13.039 I keep forgetting it because this is the first year 67 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:14.960 of this format, this schedule, to where I kind of 68 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:17.159 feel like football season's over at the college level, But 69 00:03:17.199 --> 00:03:21.400 the NFL playoffs start this weekend, and I'm real, real 70 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:23.800 excited when it comes to that. Now, Lamar Jackson and 71 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:27.120 the Ravens they're taking on the Steelers, and as of 72 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:31.919 right now, the Ravens are favored by nine and a half. 73 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:36.319 I'm really surprised by that number. I think they're better 74 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:39.080 than the Steelers, and if I had to bet the 75 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:41.560 spread here, I would take them to cover because I 76 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:42.879 trust I mean, I know that they're a lot that 77 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:45.199 they're better than Pittsburgh. And Pittsburgh is entering the postseason 78 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:47.199 with like no momentum. Aren't they coming off like five 79 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:47.919 straight losses? 80 00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:48.840 Yeah? 81 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:50.759 Four or five straight losses for the Steelers. 82 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:52.840 Are now fed up with Mike Tomlin and the way 83 00:03:52.879 --> 00:03:55.360 that he's carrying things. They might have people want him 84 00:03:55.400 --> 00:03:58.319 fired for a reason. I know that there have been 85 00:03:58.360 --> 00:04:00.719 some ruts that people beloved. 86 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:00.919 Guy out there. 87 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:04.080 He's just they don't have a coaching problem, they just 88 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:05.360 might have a quarterback problem. 89 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:08.960 Yeah, chill out, And I mean Tomlin's one of those 90 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:11.639 guys that I think has for many years been able 91 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:13.439 not every year, but in many years he's been there, 92 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:15.879 he's been able to kind of hide that they've always 93 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:19.439 done more with less. I mean, they've gotten the most 94 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:21.079 you could ever get out of certain players and you 95 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:22.600 don't realize it at the time, and then they move 96 00:04:22.639 --> 00:04:24.079 on elsewhere and they're out of the league. And I'm 97 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:26.439 not even just talking about Antonio Brown and Levey on 98 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:29.240 Bell that's a different situation. But like they've had receivers 99 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:31.560 that you're like, oh, wow, this guy. Mean, Deantay Johnson's 100 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:33.199 out of the NFL, is he not? Like he's been 101 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:35.920 cut by like three teams this year. Mike Wallace, yea 102 00:04:36.920 --> 00:04:40.439 who's out of Juju Smith Schuster who's out of the league, 103 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:41.959 that was there for a while, that was from Notre 104 00:04:42.079 --> 00:04:48.079 Dame Claypool. So they've historically gotten way more out of 105 00:04:48.120 --> 00:04:49.399 players than anybody else can. 106 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:50.519 And they always go to the cheap route. 107 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:53.639 And again Tomlin has fit that Steeler DNA to where 108 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:56.519 they just they do it their way and they've got 109 00:04:56.519 --> 00:04:59.199 the formula to make that work more often than not. 110 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:01.759 But they've also been blessed with some really good players 111 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:03.800 when it comes to them being able to maximize it 112 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:07.079 and win Super Bowls. And I just don't really know, 113 00:05:07.279 --> 00:05:10.000 Like on offense, like who I mean, I think they 114 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:11.720 got a lot more out of Rustle than I thought 115 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:13.839 they would have. But you know, he kind of at 116 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:16.319 this point in his career, he's just still really inconsistent. 117 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:18.959 When he's on, he can make some plays, but like, 118 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:22.480 do you trust him to make a run in the postseason? 119 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:27.240 Probably not, So they got no momentum right now, And 120 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:29.279 in a way that kind of makes me be a 121 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:32.160 little more fearful of him, because like that's Tomlin's a 122 00:05:32.160 --> 00:05:34.399 guy that can get his guys ready to play, especially 123 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:37.839 when nobody's expecting them to win. Like he's They've always 124 00:05:37.879 --> 00:05:41.120 come up big when they were doubted. In fact, I 125 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:43.040 don't know what the record is now, but at one point, 126 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:47.399 his record as far as winning games straight up that 127 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:50.279 he's favored in it'll blow your mind. It Actually, the 128 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:52.759 number itself probably wouldn't surprise you. 129 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:53.920 But that's because you know what. 130 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:55.560 A lot of teams in the end, a lot of 131 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:58.879 coaches in the NFL, when they're underdogs, they rarely went 132 00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:01.839 out right. You know, often than not, they may cover 133 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:03.800 the spread, but winning outrights a little bit different. So 134 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:07.040 the Steelers worry me a little bit in that regard. 135 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:09.040 But it is in Baltimore. But then again, Baltimore is 136 00:06:09.079 --> 00:06:11.639 like known to not have some great atmosphere. That is 137 00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:14.040 really you know, of all the teams in the postseason, 138 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:17.480 I shouldn't say all of them, but like, if this 139 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:20.040 game we're in Pittsburgh and the roles were reversed and 140 00:06:20.240 --> 00:06:24.240 Pittsburgh was the favorite in a better spot, there'd be 141 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:26.800 a whole lot Well, you're not gonna go into Pittsburgh 142 00:06:26.920 --> 00:06:28.160 win like, not in the playoffs. 143 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:28.920 Not with that. 144 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:31.199 I mean, there's people are fearful the Ravens. 145 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:32.560 I don't think much of it is to do with 146 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:35.360 the fact that they've got some crazy atmosphere. So I'm 147 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:36.800 starting to get in my own head here when it 148 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:41.279 comes to Lamar, because today he won another award. And 149 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:45.399 this is not me just saying this about Lamar. I've 150 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:48.959 said this many times when it comes to these type 151 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:49.560 of awards. 152 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:51.959 Lamar probably isn't. 153 00:06:51.759 --> 00:06:53.680 Gonna win the MVP, even though I think he should, 154 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:55.079 and a lot of people seem to think he should. 155 00:06:55.120 --> 00:06:57.920 But I get why Josh Allen will get it. And 156 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:00.160 it's it's you know, it's just how. 157 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:00.399 Oh it is. 158 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:01.199 I still don't. 159 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:03.839 Yeah, well, I'm with thank you, because I you know, 160 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:08.519 his team's better by a few wins or whatnot. But 161 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:11.680 in every other way, Lamar has I mean, when Lamar 162 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:14.879 put it this way, Lamar has done better this year 163 00:07:14.879 --> 00:07:18.920 than any year, including two where he won MVP. So 164 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:22.399 he's upped what has already been rewarded as an NFL 165 00:07:22.519 --> 00:07:26.879 season with Josh Allen. Like in most instances, I feel 166 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:28.800 like people would say, well, hey man, what a hell 167 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:30.480 of a season from Josh Allen. But you know, like 168 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:33.079 Lamar is just crazy good. And I think maybe there 169 00:07:33.079 --> 00:07:35.079 are people like you and I probably see it that way. 170 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:38.199 They just see that he has no Josh Allen, that 171 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:40.680 he has no weapons around him. I mean, I know 172 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:43.439 they lost to Fon Diggs last year, and that's fine, 173 00:07:43.480 --> 00:07:46.160 and James Cook as a serviceable running back. It's not 174 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:49.079 like he's anything special. But it's not like Josh Allen's 175 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:52.800 numbers are throwing you completely out of this world when 176 00:07:52.879 --> 00:07:56.560 up against Lamar Jackson, who everyone the biggest culprit against 177 00:07:56.600 --> 00:07:58.600 him as well. They got Derrick Henry this year and 178 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:01.639 that's fine. Is a fly Hours is an okay receiver. 179 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:04.600 Sharp Bateman is just finally now came into his own. 180 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:06.680 He's been in the league for about like eight nine years. 181 00:08:06.839 --> 00:08:08.920 Yeah, Babman finally broke through little. 182 00:08:08.720 --> 00:08:12.199 Bit, Isaiah likely and that Mark Andrews who's been who 183 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:14.240 hasn't been doing anything other than like the last four 184 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:17.120 or five weeks. So, I mean, the the case for 185 00:08:17.279 --> 00:08:19.680 at least for me, and I guess obviously for you, 186 00:08:19.839 --> 00:08:22.839 is he should be the MVP. Is his touchdown interception 187 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:26.800 ratio is just ridiculous. The yards that he's had. It 188 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:29.519 would be in the first player to over four thousand 189 00:08:29.600 --> 00:08:34.279 yards and and and and have what eight hundred yards 190 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:37.519 rushing something like that. It's it's just absolutely ridiculous. He 191 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:39.120 topped what he did last year. 192 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:41.919 Yeah, and and I think again the only claim that 193 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:44.000 could be made because again nobody will say this, but 194 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:48.399 and it sounds crazy, but I'm telling you as dumb 195 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:50.360 as it sounds. One of the factors that that that 196 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:53.600 if he doesn't win well that it'll be is people 197 00:08:53.679 --> 00:08:55.360 just don't want to give it to somebody for the 198 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:57.200 third time and give it to him in back to 199 00:08:57.240 --> 00:09:01.159 back years. You want something new and something different. In again, 200 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:04.000 people may not even realize that's why they vote for 201 00:09:04.039 --> 00:09:05.639 Alan over him, because if you're I mean. 202 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:05.919 It's just it. 203 00:09:06.840 --> 00:09:08.720 And that's the same thing with the heisman. I don't 204 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:11.679 necessarily you know, it doesn't make it doesn't make sense. 205 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:13.960 But it's really kind of always been that way. And 206 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:17.120 another factor is with Lamar, like he's better this year 207 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:19.320 than he's been in other years. But maybe you're gonna 208 00:09:19.320 --> 00:09:20.919 need to be a lot better because you've you know, 209 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:23.559 you've set you've set yourself up here with a standard 210 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:26.399 that's insanely high, and even if you do slightly go above, 211 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:29.240 maybe people need to see more before they're ready to 212 00:09:29.240 --> 00:09:31.960 just say, okay, no, this guy is the best. So anyways, 213 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:34.519 if you're gonna make the case about Josh Allen, well 214 00:09:34.519 --> 00:09:37.279 it's team's better. Okay, Well, if you want to play 215 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:39.559 that game, we can. Yeah, they have a couple more wins, 216 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:44.720 but they also got beat bad by Baltimore, and Lamar 217 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:46.919 had a way better game than Josh Allen did in 218 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:49.159 that night. In fact, that was a bigger night where 219 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:51.799 Josh Allen, if I remember correctly, played poorly than it 220 00:09:51.840 --> 00:09:54.440 was Lamar just went insane. Lamar, you know, got the 221 00:09:54.519 --> 00:09:56.840 job done, played well like he typically does. But you know, 222 00:09:57.000 --> 00:09:59.639 like so I really don't. The only thing I could 223 00:09:59.639 --> 00:10:01.320 think of it to why somebody would give it to 224 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:05.200 Josh Allen was just because they're they're tired. Let's give 225 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:07.480 it to somebody different this year. But we shall see. 226 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:09.200 But back to the whole award that he won today, 227 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:12.919 he in the eyes of NFL players, Lamar Jackson was 228 00:10:12.919 --> 00:10:16.440 the best quarterback in the league. And here's how you 229 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:20.240 know that. The NFL Players Association, they don't do MVPs. 230 00:10:21.240 --> 00:10:25.039 They do all pro and again Players Association, the NFL, 231 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:29.120 your peers. They those who are going to work with 232 00:10:29.159 --> 00:10:31.720 you or against you every day. Those who are in 233 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:36.879 your profession, your peers, they vote, they think you are 234 00:10:36.919 --> 00:10:39.360 the best. And by the way, Lamar is a pretty 235 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:41.120 likable guy, so it's not uncommon for him to get 236 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:43.399 gassed up. But you can just tell, like people some 237 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:45.320 of the players in the NFL, like, who's ever taken 238 00:10:45.320 --> 00:10:47.320 a shot at Lamar Jackson in the NFL, like in 239 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:50.080 the media or you know, And it's not to say 240 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:52.200 that people who take shots like it's valid, but people 241 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:54.919 know not to even like go like Lamar Jackson has 242 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:58.320 earned the respective of NFL players in a major way. 243 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:00.000 And that's not even that's not a shot at Josh Allen. 244 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:03.159 But like that, if I was Lamar and I worried 245 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:06.159 about the NFL MVP Award, which he should, he may 246 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:07.600 say that he doesn't, and maybe he doesn't. 247 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:07.879 I don't know. 248 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:10.360 Lamar's a different guy. He's a very humble, competitive dude, 249 00:11:10.360 --> 00:11:12.120 and he's just different. And I mean that in a 250 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:12.440 good way. 251 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:13.039 He's special. 252 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:16.919 But it's normal to want to have your your accolades, 253 00:11:17.440 --> 00:11:17.600 you know. 254 00:11:17.720 --> 00:11:18.240 Makes sense. 255 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:22.080 But the one that's going to get talked about, the 256 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:25.240 one that actually is the MVP award that is recognized 257 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:28.679 by everybody, is the NFL MVP Award that is given 258 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:32.120 out at the end of the season, meaning you know 259 00:11:32.360 --> 00:11:33.519 it'll be out before too. 260 00:11:34.600 --> 00:11:36.600 They don't. They don't announce it. Do they announce her 261 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:38.559 in the playoffs? I don't know either way. 262 00:11:38.639 --> 00:11:40.080 Yeah, it's like right before the Super Bowl. 263 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:42.080 Okay, So anyways, what I was getting at is that's 264 00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:44.000 the one that like counts. When people say he got 265 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:47.120 an MVP, they're referencing referencing that, But if you really 266 00:11:47.159 --> 00:11:51.759 think about it, what actually I think is more impressive 267 00:11:51.759 --> 00:11:54.519 and that should have more like internal value is the 268 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:57.120 dudes who have to go against you saying that you 269 00:11:57.159 --> 00:11:57.679 are the best. 270 00:11:58.320 --> 00:11:58.720 That is. 271 00:11:59.279 --> 00:12:01.799 I mean, that's got to be one of the most 272 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:05.320 gratifying feelings ever in sports, when you you know you 273 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:08.080 have that respect among your peers, even if they hate you, 274 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:09.679 they respect the hell out of you. 275 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:10.840 And they know that you're that good. 276 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:14.120 The same thing with Donovan Mitchell whenever he won the 277 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:17.879 NBA Players Association Rookie of the Year by a landslide, 278 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:21.639 whereas the media vote went to Ben Simmons, who was 279 00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:24.440 a red shirt rookie. You remember that controversy. That's a 280 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:27.360 big deal of course back in the day. So Donovan 281 00:12:27.559 --> 00:12:30.240 he got the one that I think would actually give 282 00:12:30.279 --> 00:12:32.960 you more gratification, and Lamar has done that here. We'll 283 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:36.960 see what happens with the actual award. I just when 284 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:39.919 I see Alan continuously being the betting favorite, I guess 285 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:42.799 they've been wrong before on that, but I just think 286 00:12:42.799 --> 00:12:43.759 it's gonna be Josh Allen. 287 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:45.720 Don't you get that vibe Austin. 288 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:48.320 That it's going to be Josh Allen. Yeah, it's what 289 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:51.720 I'm and once again that's I just I just don't 290 00:12:51.720 --> 00:12:52.360 see it yeah, and. 291 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:54.480 It's great, and I think the Bills are really good. 292 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:56.360 They made win the super Bowl. But the NFL MVP 293 00:12:56.440 --> 00:12:59.120 Award is a regular season award, and I don't I mean, 294 00:12:59.240 --> 00:13:00.960 to me, it's quite clear who the best player in 295 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:05.240 the lead is. You know, actually, are we biased? Like again, 296 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:07.240 there are other people who don't care about Lamar that 297 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:08.360 that that are saying that. 298 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:10.320 I mean, he's I mean, just go look at under 299 00:13:10.360 --> 00:13:13.600 every comment thread after a game that they're after, like 300 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:16.080 a good game from Lamar versus a good game from 301 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:19.080 like a Josh Allen, like a Buffalo fan. Seems like 302 00:13:19.159 --> 00:13:21.360 only Buffalo fans want him to win. I think the 303 00:13:21.399 --> 00:13:24.799 average NFL fan, I think they love Lamar Jackson. I 304 00:13:24.840 --> 00:13:26.840 don't think that they've I think they come around to 305 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:29.879 just calling him the regular season merchant rather than playoffs. 306 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:32.000 Of course, we're all still waiting to see how this 307 00:13:32.360 --> 00:13:35.480 how this playoff run goes. But you can't deny everything 308 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:37.919 that he's done. I mean he has. He has forty 309 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:42.200 one touchdown passes to four interceptions and a sixty six 310 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:46.879 percent completion rate. He's just absolutely insane. And the whole 311 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:51.919 imagine Bill Pollian right now, imagine the people that wanted 312 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:54.480 him to be a wide receiver a running back when 313 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:57.879 he came in. Imagine taking Josh Rosen over this guy. 314 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:03.919 I mean, I would be sick. I mean, and he's 315 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:06.360 out of the league. And the only thing that could 316 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:09.279 make you feel better is knowing everybody else did it right, 317 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:11.320 Like it wasn't as if you were that you had 318 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:13.879 the number one pick and you drafted Ryan Leaf and 319 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:17.960 not Peyton Manning, Right, you know, that's different that you 320 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:22.399 are the sole franchise that that just you know, had 321 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:24.840 the opportunity and passed on it. Everybody passed on it, 322 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:26.720 So I guess you don't feel as bad knowing that others. 323 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:30.679 But imagine also not taking a run at him. Imagine 324 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:34.039 him being an MVP, having one season where he was 325 00:14:34.120 --> 00:14:36.919 hurt and and you know, the team was underwhelming and 326 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:39.840 he was a free agent and no not one call. 327 00:14:40.039 --> 00:14:43.080 Now again, tough to really know how that played out 328 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:46.480 because how the message gets out right or wrong. And 329 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:48.080 by the way, there was no messaging because Lamara's have 330 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:50.559 an agent. The agents are in charge of all that. 331 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:57.120 So I mean, I don't think that anybody, even those 332 00:14:57.200 --> 00:15:01.919 that were truly all in. I mean, look, I always 333 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:04.279 felt like anybody, anybody who claimed he wasn't a quarterback 334 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:06.919 didn't watch him. They were just honestly, they're doing the 335 00:15:06.919 --> 00:15:10.519 stereotypical stuff and they were, and he was so good 336 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:12.799 at running the ball, that's what That's what got way 337 00:15:12.799 --> 00:15:16.480 more attention. When to this day, if Lamar Jackson is 338 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:19.519 gonna get a play, that's gonna get people jumping out 339 00:15:19.519 --> 00:15:21.440 of their chair. People's share like, you won't believe what 340 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:24.320 Lamar Jackson just did. Not out of ten times, it's 341 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:27.159 gonna be him doing something with his legs, either going 342 00:15:27.159 --> 00:15:29.480 and you know, taking off and you know, taking one 343 00:15:29.559 --> 00:15:33.720 to the house, or using his legs to keep a 344 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:36.120 play alive and then make a ridiculous throw. Like it's 345 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:38.960 gonna be him utilizing what makes him different than any 346 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:40.440 other quarterback that's ever played the game. 347 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:42.919 So when that happens in. 348 00:15:42.879 --> 00:15:46.440 College, they just that's just all they think of. But 349 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:48.840 I didn't, you know, clearly, Lamar wasn't wasn't a super 350 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:51.080 accurate guy, and he's not perfect now, but he's gotten 351 00:15:51.120 --> 00:15:53.080 so much better in that area. So what what I 352 00:15:53.159 --> 00:15:55.480 was getting at is, I don't think anybody, even those 353 00:15:55.480 --> 00:15:58.559 that were the most optimistic about his time in the NFL. 354 00:15:58.759 --> 00:16:01.720 I don't think anybody true thought he'd be this because 355 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:06.360 this is just rarely do guys get better at something 356 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:09.559 that is that is at times of a weakness in 357 00:16:09.600 --> 00:16:12.000 the NFL because you know you're going up against the 358 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:14.840 best in the world. And Lamar he was good enough 359 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:17.840 to still win and make plays. But what used to 360 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:20.639 be not like a big weakness to where he was 361 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:23.120 terrible at it, but clearly what made him dangerous was 362 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:25.559 his legs. Well, now he's a guy that he don't 363 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:27.519 even you know he can use him and they certainly are. 364 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:30.320 They come in handy at times. But he's also been 365 00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:32.879 one of the most accurate passers in the NFL this 366 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:34.200 year by a landslide. 367 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:34.720 I mean. 368 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:38.559 Some of these metrics that you see, these stats like, 369 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:40.320 I don't even know how they come up with this, 370 00:16:40.519 --> 00:16:43.240 and I choose to trust him. Maybe I'm a fool, 371 00:16:43.480 --> 00:16:45.840 but when you look at Lamar Jackson having a one 372 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:52.000 point four turnover worthy play rate this year, that I mean, 373 00:16:52.039 --> 00:16:54.559 think about that, and I'm sure he's had a couple 374 00:16:54.759 --> 00:16:57.320 since this was last a stat that kept getting thrown 375 00:16:57.360 --> 00:16:59.519 out there or a clip I should say, they kept 376 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:02.120 getting thrown out there for at least the first half 377 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:05.000 of the season. I think two of his three interceptions 378 00:17:05.279 --> 00:17:09.359 were quite literally good passes that his guys, his guys 379 00:17:09.640 --> 00:17:13.359 you know, screwed up, which happens sometimes, so like he's 380 00:17:13.799 --> 00:17:16.400 having and I guess that's why I'm always going to 381 00:17:16.440 --> 00:17:19.599 be rooting for Lamar and whatnot. But that's why I 382 00:17:19.640 --> 00:17:22.720 just think the NFL MVP is a ridiculous thing to 383 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:24.880 even consider it going to anybody else. I clearly at 384 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:26.640 this point it seems like we know who's gonna get it, 385 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:30.119 and it's not gonna be him. But this year he's 386 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:33.960 playing the best football of his life. And that doesn't 387 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:36.640 mean that you know, it's only because he has a 388 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:39.599 better supporting cast now, and you know what that's doing 389 00:17:39.640 --> 00:17:41.400 is it's helping him. He's playing even better because they've 390 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:43.400 got a better run game now that Derek Henry's there, 391 00:17:43.880 --> 00:17:47.079 he's got some weapons of receiver finally. But that shouldn't 392 00:17:47.079 --> 00:17:48.920 be held against him, right, I mean, in fact, I 393 00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:52.000 think it speaks to how impressive it was for him 394 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:54.119 to get to MVPs before he had this kind of help. 395 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:58.759 So that's clearly my team when it comes to the playoffs. 396 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:01.400 My team, of course, probably will not make the playoffs 397 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:03.000 for a long time, so pulling for the and I'll 398 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:06.079 always pull for the Ravens regardless, which somebody asked me 399 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:09.400 this yesterday, Austin and I, I don't know if I've 400 00:18:09.400 --> 00:18:11.559 ever I've never been in this, I've never been in 401 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:14.720