Speaker 1: Welcome to dorky Out. My name is Sonia Mansfield, and
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Speaker 2: Hello, my friend.
Speaker 3: This is a different Roblow video than I thought that
Speaker 3: came out at that time.
Speaker 1: There's a little snippet I think of that video in
Speaker 1: this movie.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but it's a little different.
Speaker 1: We are dorking out about nineteen nineties bad Influence, directed
Speaker 1: by Curtis Hansen, who's making his third appearance on this show.
Speaker 1: He directed The Hand that Rocks The Cradle and The
Speaker 1: River Wild both.
Speaker 2: Oh right right, and La Confidential is that his Yes.
Speaker 1: He won the Oscar for Best Adapted Screenplay and was
Speaker 1: nominated for Best Picture Best Director for La Confidential.
Speaker 3: For this new new and they all seem to think
Speaker 3: like I'm reading from the trivia like all these years later,
Speaker 3: like that's such an underrated film, like this really, I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: it was rated just about.
Speaker 1: It might be perfectly rated. Yes, And it's written by
Speaker 1: David Cope. I think it's how you pronounce it or kep.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He has written a few movies that y'all have probably
Speaker 1: heard of that we've covered on the show. Jurassic Park,
Speaker 1: Death Becomes Her, The Paper, the Mummy, you know, just
Speaker 1: a few little blockbusters. You've probably heard of it.
Speaker 2: He has a good life. I have a feeling, yes,
Speaker 2: he has a good life.
Speaker 1: He most recently wrote Black Bag, that movie with Michael
Speaker 1: Fassbender and Kate Blanchette, which is really good. It's streaming
Speaker 1: on Peacock if y'all haven't seen it, and it's directed
Speaker 1: by Steven Soderbergh. This movie stars Rob Lowe, James Spader,
Speaker 1: Lisa Zaan who that's Billy Zane's sister, Yeah, and Christian Clemenson.
Speaker 1: Marsha Cross is in there in a small role.
Speaker 3: There is a scene Marsha Crosse has the There's something
Speaker 3: about Mary? What's that movie that Cameron Diaz Did's that.
Speaker 2: What it's called?
Speaker 4: Is there something about Mary?
Speaker 2: Something? Mary?
Speaker 3: There's a scene where Marsha Cross has that same bang
Speaker 3: going for her and I laughed, so fucking foe did.
Speaker 4: I almost grabbed a screenshot and say I did too.
Speaker 3: I know I almost did the same thing, y'all know
Speaker 3: when you see the movie almost maybe I'll I'm in
Speaker 3: the middle of watching it again.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll take another screenshot of it. But yeah, so
Speaker 2: did you.
Speaker 4: See this movie in the theater?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I love the laugh.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: At the time, we should say that Rob Low was
Speaker 3: in the middle of a sex scandal and he was caught.
Speaker 2: He went to the Democratic.
Speaker 3: Convention I think was it in New Orleans in eighty eight,
Speaker 3: and he had sex with two women, not too women, sorry,
Speaker 3: a woman and a child who was sixteen.
Speaker 2: Yes, and this hurt his career.
Speaker 3: It would probably be a tougher punishment now, but for
Speaker 3: thirty years ago, it was like, well, where were her parents?
Speaker 3: Where were her parents? And that's like where everybody gets obsessed.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I thought that, and I thought he's a
Speaker 3: fucking slee So I'm not going to watch this.
Speaker 1: I saw it anyway, because okay, it played at.
Speaker 2: My movie theater and you couldn't help it.
Speaker 1: And I couldn't help it, and I just you know,
Speaker 1: as we've established even then, I loved a cheesy nineties thriller.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he there was a sex tape that came
Speaker 1: out and it had a sixteen year old girl and.
Speaker 2: And the news played it all the time.
Speaker 3: Yes, played clime until somebody said to them, yeah, hi,
Speaker 3: that's considered you know, child sexual assault or ul child
Speaker 3: did but we said child porn at the time, but
Speaker 3: it would be sexual assault of a minor on film.
Speaker 2: Maybe not do that so much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're right. Everyone was like, well, where's her mother,
Speaker 1: where's her parents?
Speaker 2: You know? And they wasn't it sold? Didn't people sell?
Speaker 2: Didn't they sell that tape?
Speaker 4: I don't remember, but that definitely happened.
Speaker 2: It played it on the Alex Bennett Show. God, yeah,
Speaker 2: so gross. I didn't go that day. I was like, no,
Speaker 2: y'all can do that without me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a whole thing.
Speaker 1: He wasn't charged with anything, but eventually the family like
Speaker 1: sued him and they actually got some money.
Speaker 2: So yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the punishment was maybe we don't want to
Speaker 1: watch your movies, but it was really for a little
Speaker 1: while he was working.
Speaker 2: He did fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's totally fine. I think he met his wife
Speaker 1: on the side of this.
Speaker 2: Movie, a makeup artist.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he has kids.
Speaker 1: He did Parks and Wreck, which he was so funny,
Speaker 1: and did beyond what was it, Beyond the Cabra Laba.
Speaker 3: Beyond the cap Yeahalabra, and then He also did the
Speaker 3: stand which I was listening to the Stephen kingcass If
Speaker 3: you'll we'll talk about this at the end.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he was fine.
Speaker 3: He's fine, he's fine, and he's let me say he
Speaker 3: is fine.
Speaker 4: He's Rob Low is very handsome.
Speaker 1: This movie is very interesting because really, like, if you
Speaker 1: think of Rob Loow now and you think of James
Speaker 1: Spader now, these roles are reversed. Like James Spader is
Speaker 1: playing the like nice guy who makes bad choices and
Speaker 1: Rob Low is playing the bad influence of the title.
Speaker 4: I think it makes sense for them to.
Speaker 1: Swap roles, but I like that they didn't because Rob
Speaker 1: Low is actually really good at playing a psycho.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was really good at playing a total sleeeze
Speaker 3: who would take advantage of a woman in a second
Speaker 3: given the opportunity.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. So this movie is bananas. You texted me and
Speaker 1: you were like, bananas likes. This movie is b ana
Speaker 1: nas bananas. So let's go through it.
Speaker 2: It.
Speaker 1: It starts with like, of course, because it's the nineties,
Speaker 1: it opens with a naked woman, a naked woman in
Speaker 1: her kiddies.
Speaker 2: That's what I wrote out of my notes. Like, immediately
Speaker 2: we get titties.
Speaker 1: Boobs, y'all, there's boobs right away, rated r boobs, and
Speaker 1: rob Blow's like she's sleeping, and of course she's sleeping
Speaker 1: in that way that everyone does in the movies where
Speaker 1: the sheet covers her her vadge, but her boobs are
Speaker 1: all out. And then Rob Blow's like going through the room.
Speaker 1: He's collecting all this, like removing all traces of himself,
Speaker 1: and he he sneaks out and he like throws away
Speaker 1: a duffel bag with all his shit to you know,
Speaker 1: hide his evidence. And then we don't see Roblow for
Speaker 1: a little while. Then we meet James Spader and he's
Speaker 1: playing like the meek glasses nerdy James Spader.
Speaker 3: Who's almost like Mann James Spanner, but he got a
Speaker 3: he got a promotion or something I just copped in
Speaker 3: my head.
Speaker 2: Sorry, we covered mannequin. Fucking love mannequin, by the way,
Speaker 2: you do? You love it?
Speaker 4: You're Manicul's biggest fan.
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 1: So he's he's walking around his office. He's like, I'm
Speaker 1: missing an important file for my work, and he like
Speaker 1: goes to confront a coworker that he knows fucked with it,
Speaker 1: and the coworkers like maybe I did, Maybe I didn't.
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do about it? And he doesn't
Speaker 1: do anything about it because he's kind of a pussy.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: He just goes about his business. He walks into his
Speaker 1: office and Marsha Cross is there, Marsha Cross from melrose Place.
Speaker 3: And the greatest, one of the greatest scenes in television
Speaker 3: I've ever witnessed in my entire life was doctor Kimberly
Speaker 3: what was your last name?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what was there? I'm gonna look it
Speaker 2: up right now. She had a brain tumor or something.
Speaker 3: And at the very end of it, and I think
Speaker 3: it was the end of a season, she takes off
Speaker 3: her win and then she's got Shaw, kimber aptor Kimberly Shaw.
Speaker 3: She takes the wig off, and then she's got like
Speaker 3: all jacked up head because she'd had all these surgeries
Speaker 3: and stuff.
Speaker 2: She's actually a good actor.
Speaker 3: She's not given anything to do here, but she's doing
Speaker 3: a great job of it. And I'm always like it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, she's so beautiful, she's so
Speaker 3: I love that hair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's absolutely gorgeous. And that scene you described in
Speaker 1: melrose Place, I was all in on Melroe's place back
Speaker 1: in the day and al point I jumped ship, but
Speaker 1: like I was there for all of this. When she
Speaker 1: took off the wig and you see the scar, I
Speaker 1: flip my fucking lid.
Speaker 3: I was like, it was I'm telling y'all, like jen
Speaker 3: Xers at that time that watched that show, it was
Speaker 3: It's it's very it's a totem pole in our pop culture,
Speaker 3: Like that's like a.
Speaker 1: Thing, yes, But in this one, she's playing like a
Speaker 1: fiance who, you know, just can't wait to get married,
Speaker 1: can't wait to have a baby, you know. And as
Speaker 1: she's talking about it, he's like, oh, my stomach, Like
Speaker 1: he's clearly she's given him an ulcer.
Speaker 2: Just just existing.
Speaker 1: By just existing, by being a normal person who wants
Speaker 1: to marry her fiance and have babies.
Speaker 3: And she has like like serious questions for him, like
Speaker 3: should we do it in October or November? Because I
Speaker 3: really liked And he's like, oh, like it's no big deal,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, actually, that's a huge deal that you know. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but like these two people are not going to get married.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm like, do they even see each other ever? No?
Speaker 1: Because he continued he continually blows her off throughout the
Speaker 1: movie until something else happens, and we'll get to that
Speaker 1: in a minute. Yeah, But like I think the movie
Speaker 1: wants us to think that Ruth is like a stuck up.
Speaker 2: High maintenance we're not supposed to like her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was like, she's fine, there's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with her.
Speaker 3: She's just existing, like she's doing well at her job,
Speaker 3: and she's dating a guy and engaged to a guy
Speaker 3: she really likes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I guess she comes from a rich background. So that's
Speaker 3: where the agitation comes in, where he's like, I'm never
Speaker 3: gonna make enough money to impress.
Speaker 2: Her and blah blah blah. And it's like that's a
Speaker 2: you problem.
Speaker 4: Too, yes exactly.
Speaker 1: So instead of you know, going out with his fiance,
Speaker 1: he decides to sneak out of work and grab an
Speaker 1: after grab a beer at some local bar and some
Speaker 1: woman comes in. She's like, I can't buy my wallet
Speaker 1: my bar, and so he buys her a drink. He's
Speaker 1: just trying to be nice and he's like, see, you're
Speaker 1: having the same problem. I am hiding in a bar,
Speaker 1: you know, instead of working, and then her like this shitty,
Speaker 1: like abusive boyfriend shows up and she's like very eighties looking,
Speaker 1: oh eighties and just like, you know, don't walk away
Speaker 1: from me when I'm talking to youse, you know that
Speaker 1: sort of thing.
Speaker 3: He's one of the guys that would have been in
Speaker 3: the fraternity in Revenge of the Nerds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he exactly looks like.
Speaker 4: It's so shitty.
Speaker 1: And she's like's with Stan and ogre ogre you asshole, Yes,
Speaker 1: ogre u asshole. And you know she's like this drip.
Speaker 1: She calls him a drip. This drip, just Bobby a drink, right.
Speaker 3: Everyone shits on him, like right away, and I was like,
Speaker 3: you have eyeballs. He's James Spader, like he's super cute
Speaker 3: and he did fucking buy you a drink out of
Speaker 3: the goodness of his heart just to be a decent person.
Speaker 2: He's not hitting on you or anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And instantly the guy's like, I'm gonna kick your ass.
Speaker 1: And Rob Low shows up and breaks a beer bottle
Speaker 1: and threatens him, and the guy's like, let's get out
Speaker 1: of here, and they like, you know, run off, and
Speaker 1: before James Spader can say anything, robb Lolow leaves. He
Speaker 1: goes back to his We get to see his apartment
Speaker 1: where he I don't know. They make it sound like
Speaker 1: he's got like a problem with buying things that he
Speaker 1: doesn't need. He has like a video camera with a
Speaker 1: fancy TV. This is the nine. This is actually a
Speaker 1: big deal, big deal to have a video camera. People
Speaker 1: didn't have them on their phones. This wasn't a thing.
Speaker 1: You know, He's got a fancy TV. His apartment's a
Speaker 1: little strange. The layout of it, to me, doesn't really
Speaker 1: make sense. But that's fine, whatever you do. You.
Speaker 3: I think he got into that apartment with like two
Speaker 3: other people and they eventually moved out, and that's why
Speaker 3: he's there.
Speaker 4: It's like not really decorated.
Speaker 1: The layout is weird.
Speaker 3: It's like it's got It doesn't match his personality at all.
Speaker 4: No, not at all.
Speaker 1: And it's it's very cold and I don't there's like
Speaker 1: a huge like window made out of like glass cube things,
Speaker 1: so it's like a view but not really right. It's
Speaker 1: very strange. His brother shows up. His brother is named Pismo.
Speaker 2: Beach's Bugs Buddy.
Speaker 1: Yes here, I am Pismo Beach Clams. I can eat.
Speaker 2: I love that one.
Speaker 1: My sister and I say that to each other all
Speaker 1: the time. Pismo beach should have made that left. Turn
Speaker 1: it albut querky and he shows up and he you know.
Speaker 1: It turns out this is an older brother who just
Speaker 1: wants to sit around and like smoke pot and I
Speaker 1: was like, I get it. Apparently he's had some sort
Speaker 1: of run in with the law, and he is a
Speaker 1: very nervous fellow. He's he scoots off and then James
Speaker 1: Spader goes for a run. I guess he's lost his
Speaker 1: wallet lost quote unquote his wallet. He goes for run.
Speaker 1: He walks along the pier and he runs into rob
Speaker 1: Blow again and he's like, is.
Speaker 2: It aantamonic appear?
Speaker 4: I think it is?
Speaker 2: Ye, ruthless people? What ruthless people?
Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, Bette Midler kicking Danny DeVito in the ass.
Speaker 2: We love that movie.
Speaker 1: We do. We did an episode on it. Go back
Speaker 1: and watch it. He runs into Robb Blow and he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: you're the You're the guy that smashed the beer bottle
Speaker 1: and saved me earlier.
Speaker 4: And so they decided to go get a drink.
Speaker 1: And while they're having a drink, Roblow is like total
Speaker 1: Manisphere before Manisphere existed. Yeah, Like he's totally just like.
Speaker 4: You need to be the alpha male.
Speaker 1: You need to, you know, push that guy around at work.
Speaker 1: He's doing that to you because he thinks he can,
Speaker 1: and because you're a beta because.
Speaker 3: And you date women with high body counts, even though
Speaker 3: I have a high BodyCount.
Speaker 2: But that's okay because I'm a.
Speaker 1: Dude, because I'm a dude Jesus slut, and I'm a stud.
Speaker 4: It's it is. It's all of those things.
Speaker 1: Before, before they became Manisphere, before it became red Pill Talk,
Speaker 1: this was just roblow and bad influence.
Speaker 4: Then they go to a club.
Speaker 1: They go to a club, if you will, and there's like,
Speaker 1: you know, some band that we're I don't know if
Speaker 1: we're supposed to think that band is cool called the Nymphs.
Speaker 4: I don't know who the Nymphs.
Speaker 2: Are, but wow, that song is terrible that they're singing.
Speaker 3: I think the outfit is cool. I love the outfits.
Speaker 3: I love the costuming here. I mean this is what
Speaker 3: I remember from nineteen ninety. Yes, like this is what
Speaker 3: like sexy twenty something people look like.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh that's cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's also like this movie came out in ninety,
Speaker 1: so that means it's filmed in eighty nine. This is
Speaker 1: like right at that cusp of like it's not quite
Speaker 1: what we all think of for the nineties, so it's
Speaker 1: still got that eighties sheen to it. Yes, exactly that,
Speaker 1: and you'll see it all over Marcia Cross's hair.
Speaker 2: When we good, we will definitely post that.
Speaker 3: I'll post the Facebook group, you'll post it in Instagram.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll put it on Instagram and uh and Blue
Speaker 1: Sky for you all because it is.
Speaker 4: It is a site. It's a thing of beauty, it
Speaker 4: really is.
Speaker 1: So they go to the club and they the clerb
Speaker 1: and they.
Speaker 2: See is this the one with David Keveny by the way.
Speaker 1: Yes, David du Coveny's in there wearing some glasses blink
Speaker 1: and you miss him.
Speaker 2: Like I think, But yeah, I think it's it's pre
Speaker 2: Red Shoe Diaries. It is pre x Files, early tokeny.
Speaker 4: I love that you went with Red Shoe Diaries first.
Speaker 2: I loved the Red Shoe Diaries. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4: They meet some women.
Speaker 1: One of them is Claire, played by Lisa's Say.
Speaker 3: And I worked with her sister and I can't remember
Speaker 3: her first name. Oh, but we talked about this when
Speaker 3: we talked about Titanic, because.
Speaker 2: Billy's ain, Yeah, but I go ahead.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. She looked like my sister. My sister's original
Speaker 3: name is Lisa. She doesn't call herself that anymore. But
Speaker 3: I looked at her one day and I said, oh, Lisa,
Speaker 3: and she just stared at me because why did you
Speaker 3: call me that? I'm sorry, you looked like my sister.
Speaker 3: And then we kept talking, and then somebody later on like,
Speaker 3: do you know who she is? Did you see the
Speaker 3: last name Zane?
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, it's not a.
Speaker 2: Common last name, but okay, they're like no, no.
Speaker 1: I immediately was like, Zaye any relation to Billy's.
Speaker 3: Ay exactly, I know, I say, but I guess she
Speaker 3: got that a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well she she's she's cute. She's very cute in
Speaker 1: the movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, real pretty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's real pretty.
Speaker 1: They meet these women, uh, wherever they go with Rob
Speaker 1: low by the way, he lies about shit all the
Speaker 1: time for no apparent reason. I mean, it's just it's
Speaker 1: because he's what he does. He's a psychopath. But like
Speaker 1: he's pretending he's Spanish. I think when they go to
Speaker 1: this bar for some reason, he's pretending his name is
Speaker 1: I forget what he pretends.
Speaker 4: His name is. But maybe.
Speaker 1: Let's just say that it's Don Juan DeMarco. And then
Speaker 1: he introduces James Spader's character his name because Michael, but
Speaker 1: he introduces him as Dominique for some years dominic or
Speaker 1: something like that, and they like they hang out with
Speaker 1: these girls. Eventually, like Michael's like, I'm going to get
Speaker 1: the fuck out of here, and he just leaves.
Speaker 3: Okay because the other girl, by the way that he's with,
Speaker 3: Lisa Zane is with is Perry. Oh, Perry is the
Speaker 3: last time I can't remember. She was Billy Idol's girlfriend
Speaker 3: for like ten or fifteen years. Oh, she was in
Speaker 3: his videos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Billy.
Speaker 4: Idol gets it.
Speaker 1: He gets it looks all over the wold.
Speaker 2: So I still think Billy Idol's cool. He is very cool.
Speaker 1: We've talked about Billy Idol on our Wedding Singer episode.
Speaker 1: I believe I think he's.
Speaker 2: Very cool, and he's come up a few times.
Speaker 4: We like him here, we are like him.
Speaker 1: So there's a whole other thing where like they go
Speaker 1: out to a club again and the bartender is referring
Speaker 1: to Rob Loo's character by like a different name. Apparently
Speaker 1: this isn't a red flag for Michael at all for
Speaker 1: James Spader. He's like, that's fine, like whatever. They all
Speaker 1: go back to James Spader's place, and like there's a
Speaker 1: scene where like James Spader and Lisa's saying, like fall
Speaker 1: asleep on the couch and Alex is just staring at.
Speaker 4: Them while they sleep. It's like like a fucking psycho.
Speaker 1: She wakes up, they make out for a little while
Speaker 1: and then he tells her to basically go fuck James
Speaker 1: Spader instead, so she does, and he films it. And
Speaker 1: this is pre sexualized and videotape I believe so.
Speaker 3: But it's also like he this movie comes out in
Speaker 3: March of nineteen ninety, it's all over the media how
Speaker 3: he was caught on tape having sex with a one
Speaker 3: and a child and uh, yeah, so that I think
Speaker 3: that was part of the ick factor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's and it's hanging all over this movie. If
Speaker 1: you know this, if you know what was in the
Speaker 1: press at the same time this movie came out, it's
Speaker 1: pretty fucking icky. I'm like, maybe Rob Lo should have
Speaker 1: maybe barked out of this movie, or maybe not. Maybe
Speaker 1: this is he was like, now I'm gonna lean into
Speaker 1: it because.
Speaker 3: Apparently they Curtis Hansen was like, we're already halfway through
Speaker 3: this movie. We're already filming in Yeah, Like, if I
Speaker 3: have to fire him and then reshoot everything, it's gonna
Speaker 3: be prohibitively expensive, and maybe it'll just go away. Maybe
Speaker 3: by the time this film comes out, it won't be
Speaker 3: so bad and it just ratchet it up.
Speaker 1: Yes, And the movie was pretty well received. It actually
Speaker 1: got pretty decent reviews.
Speaker 3: I'm shocked at some of the reviews and then I'm like,
Speaker 3: but it's nineteen ninety.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So at some point, so Lisa Zane and James Spader
Speaker 1: they hook up. It has been filmed. Now James Spader
Speaker 1: wakes up in the morning, Roblo's watching the tape like
Speaker 1: you do watching tape of your friends. Fucking like, this's.
Speaker 2: A weird thing to look at. I would never watch
Speaker 2: another person.
Speaker 3: I would never watch that, never, never, never. We're good friends,
Speaker 3: but we're not that good friends, like I just it
Speaker 3: would just feel like a weird boundary, like I would just.
Speaker 1: Not Oh, okay, well there's a package coming for you.
Speaker 1: Oh don't watch it.
Speaker 2: Just it's gonna be our version of the ring, you know,
Speaker 2: Sonya boning some guy totally.
Speaker 1: That's something I would absolutely be doing, just boning some
Speaker 1: guy and recording it and send it to you.
Speaker 3: It could be the difference between men and women. I
Speaker 3: don't know, but it's just like for me, that's always.
Speaker 2: Like, ew why would you watch that? Do you know?
Speaker 3: That's also in Endless Love by the way, with Brookshields
Speaker 3: and what's his nuts?
Speaker 2: As and Tom Cruise is in the movie. And James
Speaker 2: Pader was in that movie.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, James, he shows do you remember that?
Speaker 1: He shows up and everything.
Speaker 2: There's no scene where she had sex with her you
Speaker 2: never seen.
Speaker 4: Oh, and her parents watch her mom, her.
Speaker 3: Mother, her mother watches and then she tells her later
Speaker 3: it was so beautiful, like what with you?
Speaker 1: Ew right, it's so gross. We should do an episode
Speaker 1: sometime on Tough Turf with James Spader and.
Speaker 3: Anytime and Kim Richards, right, we need to yes? Is
Speaker 3: it Kim Richards Sonya? The Kim Richards is in that movie?
Speaker 3: Thank you all right? Twelve foot long hair.
Speaker 1: What's funny is that movie has come up multiple times
Speaker 1: on like other film podcasts I listened to recently, It's
Speaker 1: come up like multiple times. I think f this movie
Speaker 1: just brought it up recently, and I was like, finally,
Speaker 1: some people are getting on the tough turf train all aboard.
Speaker 1: Some of us have been here all along.
Speaker 4: We we love a James Spader Kim Richards.
Speaker 3: Movie, Get On, I love a shitty eighties theme movie.
Speaker 4: Yes, you know.
Speaker 2: It was like there were biking movies.
Speaker 3: There were movies about dance, there were movies about Vietnam veterans.
Speaker 3: I mean there's all these like themes. Anyway, going back
Speaker 3: to that influence, Sorry, where's forever?
Speaker 2: Welcome to our world of having good conversation.
Speaker 1: We're talking about bad influence. So they He's like, maybe
Speaker 1: don't watch that tape, you know, turns it off.
Speaker 4: And then Roblo's like, it turns into a therapist.
Speaker 1: Tell me what you want, tell me what you're afraid of,
Speaker 1: tell me about your mother, like all these things. And
Speaker 1: James s Bader's like, well, I'm afraid of getting married,
Speaker 1: and Roblo's like, well that's easy, just don't and he's like,
Speaker 1: tell me what you want, and he's like, I want
Speaker 1: to be seeing your analyst like a nerd. Like It's
Speaker 1: so it's also very eighties to have like a plot
Speaker 1: point that is all about getting the big job, getting
Speaker 1: the promotion, like yeah, in the big account, Like those
Speaker 1: are huge plot points in movies in the eighties and
Speaker 1: in the early nineties. And he's like, I want to
Speaker 1: be senior analysts, which seems like so all right, yeah rude.
Speaker 1: They also like talk a little insider trading. That's something
Speaker 1: that comes up for like a hot second, and I
Speaker 1: was like, wow, what's a little insider trading between friends?
Speaker 2: I guess yeah.
Speaker 1: The other thing that happens is then James Spader goes
Speaker 1: into work. He's being so shitty to his assistant now
Speaker 1: because he's got like a new attitude. He's like call
Speaker 1: me Mick, not Michael, and he's like kind of shitty
Speaker 1: to her, and she's like, okay, like what's all this now?
Speaker 1: And he had an office earlier, but now he doesn't
Speaker 1: have an office. He's like sitting in a giant room
Speaker 1: behind I don't know what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's on a different floor. He's like in the
Speaker 2: Wall Street yeah something like that, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, I don't understand what's happening with his job.
Speaker 1: But that's James.
Speaker 2: Spader was in Wall Street. Shit, Oh my god, He's everything.
Speaker 1: James Spader's in everything, everything, y'all. He's a treasure. We
Speaker 1: should all be appreciate James Spader. Now you'll thank us,
Speaker 1: like do it. So he goes to the fancy dinner
Speaker 1: at his Beyonce's parents' house. It's like their anniversary party,
Speaker 1: and we see that like they're very rich.
Speaker 4: He shows up, you know, in.
Speaker 1: The tucks and he's there, and this is where we
Speaker 1: see Marcia Cross and her amazing bangs that are like
Speaker 1: hairsprayed just stick basically straight up coming.
Speaker 3: It's it's something about Mary All with like very long
Speaker 3: red hair, and she's a it's again once again, a
Speaker 3: very beautiful woman.
Speaker 2: She could sell it, but it's still like I I
Speaker 2: was a gog.
Speaker 3: I was like, who okay this Like that's also terrible
Speaker 3: and dated.
Speaker 1: It's very dated, but I also want for eighty five.
Speaker 3: I'd say, okay, yeah, it's accurate.
Speaker 4: It's accurate.
Speaker 1: Like I knew many women who wore.
Speaker 4: Their hair that way.
Speaker 1: I wore my hair super hair sprayed in the front,
Speaker 1: you know, all of those things. I don't know if
Speaker 1: mine looked quite like that, but I definitely saw so.
Speaker 2: She has all this gorgeous red hair that's very silky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she it's super super long and it's just
Speaker 3: like this plots on top of her head, this red
Speaker 3: it's so weird and so distracting.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, dude, you can't marry this woman. Your
Speaker 2: pictures will look terrible. Like what is she gonna do
Speaker 2: on her wedding day if she think this is fancy?
Speaker 1: Well this is why Roblo had to save him, you see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he goes to the party and they're like, your friend
Speaker 1: is already here, and he's like, my friend, I don't
Speaker 1: have any friends. And it's Rob Loo who's telling everyone
Speaker 1: that he is Francois and he's got like a terrible
Speaker 1: French accent, going the whole I am for a swall.
Speaker 1: I work into Perry movies, Like it's pretty ridiculous. And
Speaker 1: he charms everybody and he then tells them that he's
Speaker 1: going to show them the new spot they're working on together,
Speaker 1: and I was like, again, what is James Spader's job
Speaker 1: that he's working on a spot for something? I was like,
Speaker 1: isn't he an analyst or is he a spat trader
Speaker 1: or now he's working on a spot on something? Like
Speaker 1: what is what is his job.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: So they played the tape and it's the sex tape,
Speaker 1: and of course the Marshacross's mother has there.
Speaker 4: She's like, marsh Across is like.
Speaker 1: Turn it up, like she's so upset, obviously, and the
Speaker 1: mother's like rewinding it and fast forwarding it.
Speaker 4: And because she doesn't know how how do.
Speaker 1: I stop this?
Speaker 2: I don't know how to use the remote.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't understand VCRs. This movie is not great
Speaker 3: to women.
Speaker 2: No, it is not.
Speaker 1: And I think we're supposed to think it's funny. We're
Speaker 1: supposed to think it's funny that he did that, and.
Speaker 3: It's like, no, that's called revenge porn. And you're also like,
Speaker 3: you're you're putting Claire in the middle of that.
Speaker 2: But is that what she was okay with?
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just I don't want to watch people
Speaker 3: fucking I'm at a I'm at a party, a nice
Speaker 3: dinner party.
Speaker 2: I just want steak and mashed potatoes. And I think you.
Speaker 1: And I have a very different idea of what a
Speaker 1: good party is.
Speaker 3: I think it's just like that's it's right, It's just
Speaker 3: it's just shitty.
Speaker 1: I will tell you when my twenties. I absolutely went
Speaker 1: to a party, walked into a room and there was
Speaker 1: porn on one of the screens.
Speaker 2: I made.
Speaker 3: I've been to porn parties. I mean, I've been to
Speaker 3: parties where people look at porn. But I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 3: this is supposed to be a fancy dinner party.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. No, these are adults. These are adults.
Speaker 1: These are great as humans. They are not sitting around
Speaker 1: watching porn. I left that party in five seconds. I
Speaker 1: was like, no, this is the party is not for
Speaker 1: me because I'm I'm a prude.
Speaker 3: I'm totally prudish, but also I also it's just for me.
Speaker 3: It's like, is any woman in this film gonna be
Speaker 3: treated with even a modicum of respect?
Speaker 2: Nope?
Speaker 3: No, like they have a brain, like they're you know,
Speaker 3: they should be listened to, or you know, just like
Speaker 3: they're a human being.
Speaker 1: No, No, they're all plot points.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So they they leave, you know, the dad is like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick your ass, and he's like by and
Speaker 1: they get in a car and drive off, and then
Speaker 1: they go to another clerb and run into Claire again.
Speaker 1: He lies to her again, James Spader, He's like I'm
Speaker 1: not Dominic. I'm my name is Kirk. Now he's saying
Speaker 1: his name is Kirk. Why I don't know, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: And I miss that this movie can be really confusing.
Speaker 4: It is very confused.
Speaker 1: Well it's because the club, I guess.
Speaker 3: Because it's like highly choreographed, right, Like there's like dancers
Speaker 3: that are doing a whole Yeah, like it looks like
Speaker 3: a Janet Jackson video.
Speaker 2: Totally.
Speaker 3: I'm expecting like Paula Abdul and the Cat to show
Speaker 3: up hits a tractor, you know they Yeah, they're And
Speaker 3: so at one point, like James Spader and Lisa Zaying
Speaker 3: are like making out and like Alex who just he
Speaker 3: likes to watch man.
Speaker 1: He's up on the balcony like just like Burr with
Speaker 1: his binoculars, basically watching them make out. And if they
Speaker 1: made this movie now Alex and Michael would fuck. They
Speaker 1: would fuck too. But like that's nothing.
Speaker 3: That would be the element you would throw in there
Speaker 3: that I'd be like, Okay.
Speaker 2: Now we're onto something.
Speaker 3: This makes more sense, yeah, because why is he following
Speaker 3: this jackass who just beats up people and lies constantly
Speaker 3: and is just running away from places like this is
Speaker 3: not a good friend.
Speaker 4: No, they want to fuck each other.
Speaker 1: That's what it really is. And but you know, it's
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety and we're not going to do that. And
Speaker 1: that's too bad because it would have been really good.
Speaker 1: So they leave this party and then they go to
Speaker 1: like a burger joint to get food. For some reason,
Speaker 1: James Spader now is wearing a rabbit mask.
Speaker 4: I don't know why.
Speaker 1: And Rob Loo decides to rob a burger joint just
Speaker 1: for funsies, Like he's like, that'll be fun, let's.
Speaker 4: Just rob places.
Speaker 1: So then they like rob a burger joint, they go
Speaker 1: and they rob a liquor store. Why.
Speaker 4: I don't know why.
Speaker 2: I have no idea why.
Speaker 1: Like for fun, that's fun, right, show Terrifying people, yeah,
Speaker 1: shoving a gun in their face, making them piss themselves,
Speaker 1: stealing you know, twenty dollars from a register. So fun.
Speaker 1: And then they decide to go by Mike James Spader's
Speaker 1: shitty co worker's house and beat the shit out of
Speaker 1: him for you know, now, to be fair, that guy
Speaker 1: is an asshole, but still we don't assault people, like,
Speaker 1: come on, get another job, yeah, seriously, just get another
Speaker 1: job or fucking be a tattletale and tell your.
Speaker 2: Boss like, yeah, that's this guy's been shitty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so stupid.
Speaker 1: He goes into the office the next day and his
Speaker 1: hand is all fucked up because he, you know, he
Speaker 1: has been kicking his coworker's ass the night before, and
Speaker 1: the ladies are like talking around the coffee machine and
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, it's so crazy. Somebody beat up our
Speaker 1: shitty coworker, Like, who would do such a thing? Oh,
Speaker 1: James Spader, what happened to your hand? Oh your poor hand? Like, ladies,
Speaker 1: these things are related.
Speaker 4: Yes, they don't put it together. You know, Hey that
Speaker 4: coche work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not. The coworker he super hates got the
Speaker 1: shit kicked out of him last night and his hand
Speaker 1: is all fucked up.
Speaker 2: Do the mask and people know that they don't like
Speaker 2: each other.
Speaker 1: Yes, So he he leaves and he goes home. Now
Speaker 1: he's just doing a shitty job. He's leaving his work
Speaker 1: all the time. He goes home and he tells Alex like,
Speaker 1: we can't, we can't be friends anymore, basically like I
Speaker 1: don't think you're very nice, And Roblo's like, I'm doing
Speaker 1: all this shit for you. You're the one who didn't
Speaker 1: want to get married. You're the one that has a
Speaker 1: shitty coworker that you know sabotages you at work, and
Speaker 1: you want to be a senior analyst at your job
Speaker 1: that involves stocks or ads. I can't tell the difference,
Speaker 1: like he So he's like, we can't be friends anymore.
Speaker 1: At some point, Roblo goes into James Spader's apartment and
Speaker 1: just fucking takes everything and like, I don't know. Then
Speaker 1: he like confronts him and he's like, you could just
Speaker 1: keep my stuff and we'll call it even, And boy,
Speaker 1: Roblo's feelings are really hurt.
Speaker 2: Then he gets very butt hurt, as the boys like
Speaker 2: to say, Yes.
Speaker 1: He gets very very butt hurt. He's like, how dare
Speaker 1: you not appreciate all the things I'm doing for you?
Speaker 1: So James Spader goes to stay with his pothead brother
Speaker 1: and Pismo Hipismo, a grown man named Pismo.
Speaker 4: I'm going to assume that's a nickname.
Speaker 1: And because I don't know if you have a brother
Speaker 1: named Pismo and then another one named Michael, seems like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they should both have ridiculous names. So he James Spader
Speaker 1: goes into work and then robb Loo calls again and
Speaker 1: he's like, hey, if you want your stuff, I left
Speaker 1: it in a box by a fucking oil well, go
Speaker 1: get it, which is not suspicious at all.
Speaker 4: Sure, I left your ship.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't even know why that's in the movie.
Speaker 2: It's there's a lot of this movie.
Speaker 1: I questioned this movie, by the way, is like, it's
Speaker 1: I think it's almost two hours long, or over two
Speaker 1: hours long.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna lie, yeah, it's a little too long.
Speaker 1: It absolutely needed to be cut.
Speaker 4: It's I'm gonna look it up right now. Let's see.
Speaker 1: Why don't you show me the runtime? Why does this
Speaker 1: take it so long? Sorry everybody, it is one hundred minutes.
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like one hundred minutes.
Speaker 2: No, it feels like two hours.
Speaker 4: It feels like it's two hours.
Speaker 1: So he goes out to a fucking oil well and
Speaker 1: gets his shit. Then he goes back to his apartment
Speaker 1: and some of his stuff is back, including a TV
Speaker 1: and his video camera, and there's a tape. So he
Speaker 1: plays it and it's rob Low looking right into the
Speaker 1: camera and he's like, I want you to remember one
Speaker 1: thing you asked for this. I don't think he asked
Speaker 1: for this.
Speaker 2: But now he did not clearly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then.
Speaker 1: Claire shows up and she's looking for James Spader and
Speaker 1: Rob Low. She goes into a room. He followed her
Speaker 1: into the room with a golf club and we don't
Speaker 1: see it, but we hear it. He beats the shit
Speaker 1: out of her with a golf club and kills her
Speaker 1: and kills her and it's pretty gross. Like when we
Speaker 1: finally do see, like there's blood everywhere. Claire did not
Speaker 1: deserve this. This is really fucked up again. This movie
Speaker 1: does not like women. It does not like women. So uh,
Speaker 1: James Spader like busts into the room and he sees
Speaker 1: that she's dead. Meanwhile, the whole time, like Michael is
Speaker 1: trying to get into the room to find Claire and
Speaker 1: all this Problo is just standing there like staring into
Speaker 1: the camera like a real psycho for like a really
Speaker 1: long time. It's very creepy. And then what does he do. Oh,
Speaker 1: he gets Pismo to come over. Poor Pismo. He just
Speaker 1: wants to stay in his room and smoke pot. And
Speaker 1: his brother just like yes, yes.
Speaker 2: Brother is leaving a very strange life.
Speaker 1: Yes brothers Like, hey, if you don't mind will you
Speaker 1: come over here and help me dump this body into.
Speaker 4: The tar pits?
Speaker 1: And he's tar pitched yeah, and he's like, I really
Speaker 1: rather stay on the smoke pot, but he does it
Speaker 1: anyway because that's what a good big brother does.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then James Spader goes back to work because he wants
Speaker 1: to pretend that everything's normal, and apparently he works right
Speaker 1: across the street from the tar pits, so he can
Speaker 1: see that the body is being recovered while he's at work,
Speaker 1: and his assistant is even like, I'm gonna get the
Speaker 1: fuck out of here now. I'm not working for you anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm getting out of here because he's a dick to her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the body was recovered like in record time, Like yes,
Speaker 1: record time.
Speaker 4: Good good job cops.
Speaker 3: Well, also like aren't there people like isn't it a
Speaker 3: place where it's a tourist region?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Ye?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, that's what I hear.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I never lived in that that region
Speaker 3: of California.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I went to school in Northern California, but I li
Speaker 3: bea tarpets. I feel it's like it's one of those
Speaker 3: things like when you live there, like at one point
Speaker 3: you go yes, it's like the Statue of Liberty here,
Speaker 3: like at some point you gotta just fucking go.
Speaker 2: Yeah I can see it, but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Trying to hide a body and a popular tourist attraction
Speaker 1: was a way right choice.
Speaker 2: Like goes six flags. If you're going to do that, it.
Speaker 1: Just and then I dumped the body in the Matta
Speaker 1: Horne at Disney Like.
Speaker 2: Good job, clear thinking there.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So for some reason they come up with this plan
Speaker 1: that they're gonna catch They're gonna somehow catch Rob Low
Speaker 1: And there's two.
Speaker 4: Things going on here.
Speaker 1: One James Spader goes back to his office again and
Speaker 1: talks to the world's worst security guard, who hands over
Speaker 1: it's good.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I had to go back because I left the room
Speaker 3: for a second. I came back like, wait, just cop,
Speaker 3: just give him a gun. Yes, it was at the
Speaker 3: secure guys on a cop. But he looks like a cop,
Speaker 3: like he's all dressed like it he's got it? Does
Speaker 3: he says, just hide it, put in your pants where
Speaker 3: it's aiming at your dick. Just do that now.
Speaker 1: It is so ridiculous. First of all, what is James
Speaker 1: Spader's job again? That they have armed security guards, like
Speaker 1: what is happening and also like that he's just like, well,
Speaker 1: if it was anyone else, I would say no, But
Speaker 1: since it's you, James Spader, take my gun, I'm sure
Speaker 1: you won't do anything.
Speaker 4: Illegal with it, like so stupid.
Speaker 1: And then Pismo in the meantime has figured out like
Speaker 1: there's another He follows Rob Loow into another clerb where
Speaker 1: he's hanging out with a woman and he wants to
Speaker 1: like get his fingerprints.
Speaker 4: They think that this will help them, you.
Speaker 1: Know, they'll hand over the fingerprints to the cops and
Speaker 1: they'll be like, thanks for getting us fingerprints. We'll solve
Speaker 1: this murder now, even though you're the ones that disposed
Speaker 1: of the body. And a popular tourist attraction. So he
Speaker 1: goes into the clurb and that's where there's another like
Speaker 1: performance are going on with the like crazy like lingerie
Speaker 1: outfits and like light tubes.
Speaker 3: I think that's the sex party I was talking about. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 3: there's a whole dance section. Yes there's there, And I'm like, god,
Speaker 3: people in nineteen horny people in nineteen ninety and to
Speaker 3: go through oops to get the rocks off because.
Speaker 1: There's no there's line porn I guess that's where you're writing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: watching your friend's sex tape.
Speaker 3: You had to go out to some shitty warehouse in
Speaker 3: Santa Monica and put up with really bad performances and stuff.
Speaker 2: It's just it's so funny.
Speaker 1: In order to connect to get off, I had to
Speaker 1: go outside to a clurb.
Speaker 2: I had to get performance are.
Speaker 4: It's so ridiculous.
Speaker 2: So they.
Speaker 1: Like, he gets a beer bottle that Roblow is drinking
Speaker 1: out of. Roblo sees that he was there, and then
Speaker 1: it like cuts to Pismo getting home to his apartment
Speaker 1: and somehow Roblow has beat him to his own apartment.
Speaker 1: I don't know how he knows where Pismo lives, and
Speaker 1: I don't know because he knows everything and he I
Speaker 1: don't know how he beat him to his own apartment,
Speaker 1: but he is there waiting for him when he opens
Speaker 1: the door, and luckily Pismo doesn't get hurt, because I
Speaker 1: would have actually been upset for Pismo.
Speaker 4: But he is running away from Roblow, and the whole
Speaker 4: time he's running, he's yelling Michael.
Speaker 1: Michael, Mike Michael, and luckily James Spader shows up in
Speaker 1: time to save him, and rob Loo disappeared because he's
Speaker 1: got to get home to his threesome.
Speaker 4: He's got a threesome that's waiting for him.
Speaker 1: So he splits, I got an underage girl.
Speaker 2: Woman, we're trying to talk about Gary Hart all night. Yes,
Speaker 2: I got a shit to do.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Gary yarn fuck. So there's just so
Speaker 1: so ridiculous. So now James Spader is like, I'm going
Speaker 1: to find Rob Low and I'm I'm gonna kill him.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot him with the gun that I got
Speaker 1: from a security guard. Now we get a sex, we
Speaker 1: get a threesome because the movie never wants you to
Speaker 1: forget that Rob Low was in a sex tape with
Speaker 1: in a threesome. So we get a threesome with him
Speaker 1: and two women. And then we get to see Roblo's naked,
Speaker 1: bare ass, which.
Speaker 3: He shows that in all the movies, by the way
Speaker 3: he does. Yeah, it's cos opportunities just be in his contract. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you don't have to watch this movie to see it,
Speaker 3: if that's what you're going for.
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: You have to watch this to see Marcia Cross's hair.
Speaker 3: So you do have to see it from marsha across
Speaker 3: his hair, and you'll know what we're talking about when
Speaker 3: that scene comes up, and if you're not cracking up,
Speaker 3: you have no sense of humor, because that is silly
Speaker 3: as shit.
Speaker 1: You know what, I will put together a side by
Speaker 1: side of her and Mary. Yes, that'll be perfect. You'll
Speaker 1: see what we're seeing. So he is, they do their threesome.
Speaker 1: He gets one of the women off and the other
Speaker 1: one's like, I'm next. But for some reason, he's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do this again. So he starts getting
Speaker 1: all his stuff and he's gonna leave, but for some reason,
Speaker 1: he goes down to the fridge and opens it just
Speaker 1: to give James Spader a place to hide behind the
Speaker 1: refrigerator door to scare us, because it makes no sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he closes the refrigerator and James Spader's there and he
Speaker 1: they fight, oh fight, And then James Spader runs off
Speaker 1: and he runs to the end of the pier where
Speaker 1: they first met, and uh, he pulls a gun on
Speaker 1: Roblow and Rob Blow's like, hey, sorry, sorry, and I
Speaker 1: was like, well that should fix everything, you know, and
Speaker 1: gives him this big villain speech. You know, I didn't
Speaker 1: make you do anything that wasn't already in you blah,
Speaker 1: blah blah, all this.
Speaker 2: Stuff, gaslighting, it's starvo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all of it. And it turns out like Pismo's
Speaker 1: there recording at all because we can't have a video camera.
Speaker 2: Pismo's got to exist for some reason, yes, exactly, And
Speaker 2: there he is, he has his hero shot.
Speaker 1: Pismo Beach is there recording and then like Roblo like
Speaker 1: lunges at him because this is a movie that is
Speaker 1: still very eighties and James Spader has to shoot him.
Speaker 1: So he shoots him and he falls into the water.
Speaker 1: And then but there's never a body found Margo.
Speaker 3: Which enraged me when I'm like, really, I'm like, you
Speaker 3: found Claire in.
Speaker 2: Two seconds and the tar pits, but this guy.
Speaker 1: Nope, they didn't find the body. I'm like, look, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying there could still.
Speaker 4: Be a sequel.
Speaker 3: Bad Influence Too, Bad Influence Too to Bigger and Badder, Bigger.
Speaker 4: I'd watch it. I'd watch it.
Speaker 2: I would totally watch it. I would have to at
Speaker 2: this point. Yeah, I'm committed.
Speaker 1: I'm committed. I am I'm here for the Bad Influence
Speaker 1: universe if they want to make more of these. So
Speaker 1: and then it ends with like Michael's going to go
Speaker 1: talk to the cops and I'm sure everything's gonna be fine. Totally.
Speaker 2: It's very easy to explain, sonya, Totally.
Speaker 1: He'll be like, let's see, I met this guy and
Speaker 1: I wanted to FuG him, but we don't really do that,
Speaker 1: so I, you know, fuck this person. And then we
Speaker 1: robbed some store, you know, we robbed some Hamburger stand.
Speaker 4: Together, and like, oh god, I.
Speaker 1: Actually maybe the movie could have added like just ten
Speaker 1: more minutes of him explaining everything to the cops. That
Speaker 1: would have been all right.
Speaker 3: They should have opened with that, Yeah, yes, I've already
Speaker 3: made the movie better.
Speaker 4: You have you fixed it?
Speaker 1: Good job, Marco. Time for a remake. So there were
Speaker 1: a couple of other people they considered for James Spader's role,
Speaker 1: including Matthew Broderick. And I'm like, he's got edgy.
Speaker 2: He's not edgy, but.
Speaker 3: He can do that wimpy totes guy that's put upon
Speaker 3: kind of thing and being jealous of a guy who's
Speaker 3: got his shit together.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Actually he kind of played this role in The Cable Guy.
Speaker 2: God, I didn't like that movie.
Speaker 4: I know you didn't.
Speaker 1: They're parts of it I like, but overall, apparently Tom
Speaker 1: Cruise turned down to roll. I was like, there's no way,
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise, this was.
Speaker 4: Gonna be in this movie.
Speaker 1: That was wishful thin.
Speaker 3: Gane like that was the pr person for the studio,
Speaker 3: like feeding that line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the variety or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then Robert Downey Junior turned down the part apparently,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Robert Downey Junior would have been really
Speaker 1: good in the Rob Low role.
Speaker 2: Would have been better, to be honest with you.
Speaker 1: Other people consider for Rob Low's role include Nicholas Cage
Speaker 1: and I'm like sure, yeah, and then Kevin Costner.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, oh, for God's sakes.
Speaker 4: No Costner could play James Spader's role.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think he could do the
Speaker 1: other one. I don't think that's in his wheelhouse. And
Speaker 1: then for Claire, for Lisa Zane's role, Patricia Arquette passed
Speaker 1: on it, which I think.
Speaker 4: Was a good choice.
Speaker 2: Yeah. She's better than this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a thankless role.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good for her.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else we'd like to say about Bad Influence?
Speaker 2: I'm kind of done with it now, Okay, to be.
Speaker 1: Honest, other nineteen ninety movies, please, We've done nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: a few times. So I tried to go a little deeper.
Speaker 1: And forgive me if we've mentioned these movies before.
Speaker 3: The Freshman that's Matthew Broderick and Marlon Brando. That is right,
Speaker 3: that's a funny movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he made the right choice if he
Speaker 1: had this one over bad influence. Oh here's a great one.
Speaker 1: This one's really funny. Awakenings.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's such a riot, so funny.
Speaker 4: Definitely see that one.
Speaker 1: This is like a great, great double feature with this movie,
Speaker 1: Problem Child.
Speaker 2: That's a John Ritter.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's terrible, funny, not good.
Speaker 4: No, there's like three of them too, Like apparently.
Speaker 2: It made a shitload of money for some reason.
Speaker 4: So much money.
Speaker 1: The Godfather Part three.
Speaker 3: It's not good And I'm not gonna say it's great
Speaker 3: because I'm not going to feel like I'm being edgy
Speaker 3: by giving it props when it doesn't deserve it.
Speaker 2: It's it's poorly miscast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think the story is a mess yep.
Speaker 4: Exactly that.
Speaker 3: And I'm somebody who could recite Godfather's one and two
Speaker 3: on a dime.
Speaker 2: I could tell you that the whole script and everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you watched any of the like recuts of
Speaker 1: god apparently there's a couple.
Speaker 2: Of there's a few versions.
Speaker 3: I mean there's one where they basically it's like a
Speaker 3: four to five hour version where it's like one and
Speaker 3: two together and it's in but it's in h what's
Speaker 3: the word I'm thinking of. It's chronologically its okay, yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So they show a lot of two first and then.
Speaker 3: Right they start with Robert and Young and then they
Speaker 3: as as a veto and then then you go to
Speaker 3: Marlon Brando and it's it's an interesting version. I mean,
Speaker 3: I have a couple of different versions. Yeah, I think
Speaker 3: the third and I'm always like third one. I'm like,
Speaker 3: usually about the fifteen minute mark, I'm like, I.
Speaker 2: Just can't this is Yeah, it has bumming down too.
Speaker 2: It has amazing people in it. Andy Garcia.
Speaker 3: I would have seen anything with Andy Garcia in nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety so hot hot.
Speaker 4: Joe Montag is in there.
Speaker 1: I love Joe Ye like, it's got good people. It's
Speaker 1: just it's messy, messy, messy, Okay. Other movies State of Grace,
Speaker 1: who's in that? That is Sean Penn and Robin Wright.
Speaker 2: That's where they met.
Speaker 1: Yes, and then I want to say Gary Oldman is
Speaker 1: in there. It's like Irish Mob. Yeah stuff. I remember
Speaker 1: liking it at the time, but I haven't seen it
Speaker 1: since then. This one sucks another forty eight hours.
Speaker 2: Enough said.
Speaker 1: Yeah, The Grifters, that's a great movie. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: really good one. Bird on a Wire.
Speaker 2: That's Goldie Hawn and Mel Gibson.
Speaker 3: Mel Gibson at one point he's impersonating a hairdresser, so
Speaker 3: of course he does the lispius mister roper version of
Speaker 3: a Homicide's o ridiculous. It's so like even then, I mean,
Speaker 3: this is thirty five years ago, it was like, this
Speaker 3: is dated, this.
Speaker 1: Is not No, it was not funny then, it's super
Speaker 1: unfunny now speaking of unfunny, taking care of business.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that movie because I worked with Paul
Speaker 3: Mazerski and his daughter.
Speaker 2: Wrote that movie.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, and it didn't do well for many different
Speaker 3: reasons in that family hates James Belushi by the way, Yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Was one of the reasons it doesn't work.
Speaker 1: And so anyway, yeah, that's a The last one is
Speaker 1: The Bonfire of the Vanities.
Speaker 2: That's also people love that book.
Speaker 3: I think it's fine, I think, but it's this total satire.
Speaker 3: It's supposed to be a satire of the nineteen eighties
Speaker 3: New York City, big shoulder pads, Wall Street, all that shit,
Speaker 3: and it's supposed to be saying things about race and money.
Speaker 3: And they make it, and there's an excellent movie about it,
Speaker 3: A Devil in the Something. Julia Solomon wrote it. I
Speaker 3: believe Julie Solomon, she's a Wall Street Journal reporter. She
Speaker 3: got unbelievable fucking access, Like they pitched her to write
Speaker 3: about this movie before it was even in production.
Speaker 2: Like so she was in on.
Speaker 3: All parts of the casting The Devil's Candy, Thank you Sorry,
Speaker 3: And it's an excellent If you want to read a
Speaker 3: book about the making of a movie, that's one of
Speaker 3: the best ones you'll ever get. And she had so
Speaker 3: much access to all the leads, all the actors. They
Speaker 3: were very honest with her, like they knew it was
Speaker 3: a shitty movie when they were making it. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: it's incredible, but the movie is not good and it's
Speaker 3: it's it's it's a it's a shame because there's so
Speaker 3: many big themes.
Speaker 2: And you had Brian de Palmer directed it.
Speaker 3: You have like and Tom Hanks Bruce Willis, Melanie Griffin.
Speaker 2: I mean, you have so many people, Morgan Freeman. It's
Speaker 2: filmed in New York on location.
Speaker 3: They had the budget for it because the book made
Speaker 3: a lot of money, and it just it's it's if
Speaker 3: you're ever wonder like, what, how does a movie just
Speaker 3: get fucked up and they take this great story and
Speaker 3: they screw it up. You read this book and you
Speaker 3: can see why. It just really explains it well. I
Speaker 3: would totally.
Speaker 1: Recommend so skip on fire the Vanities, just go right
Speaker 1: to the Devil's Candies.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And I'm sure it's on audio two if
Speaker 3: you don't want to read, Okay, do you want to
Speaker 3: hear the top ten songs from when this came out?
Speaker 3: So it's March the weekend in March tenth, nineteen ninety.
Speaker 3: So I think you're gonna like this list.
Speaker 2: Number ten Taylor Dane Love will lead you back.
Speaker 3: B Yeah to Maha. I loved her, She's from Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: Number nine Billy Joel, I go to extremes. This is
Speaker 3: like a B level Billy Joel song. Everybody knows that
Speaker 3: I really like.
Speaker 1: I think I liked this song he very much.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Number eight I don't think, Oh I do remember now, Oh,
Speaker 3: Gloria Stepan, here we are.
Speaker 1: Oh I do like Gloria Stepan as a person. Her
Speaker 1: music's just not for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Number seven Michelle seventeen, No More Lies. I don't
Speaker 2: know that one.
Speaker 1: I don't know that one. Maybe if I heard it,
Speaker 1: but it's not popping up.
Speaker 3: Number six Paula Abdul and the Wild Pair Opposites Attract.
Speaker 2: We were talking about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they performed at the Clurb.
Speaker 2: No at the club this one.
Speaker 3: This band would have been at the Clurb Bad English.
Speaker 3: They had a song called Price of Love. I'm sure
Speaker 3: if I heard it, I would remember it because this
Speaker 3: was played in them all all the time. Yes, there's
Speaker 3: a lot of mall songs here. Number four, This this
Speaker 3: one when one hit wonder, A lot of miles, black.
Speaker 4: Velvet, Jesus, this song is.
Speaker 1: How is this song still overplayed?
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. Number three the B fifty two's Rome. I
Speaker 2: do like that song.
Speaker 4: I love that album. I had it, yep.
Speaker 2: Number two rock sett Dangerous. I loved rock Set.
Speaker 4: I wasn't a big rock set person, but I get.
Speaker 2: It really because they're like asa bass to me.
Speaker 1: I could totally see that I didn't dislike rock sett
Speaker 1: I was just like, I was like, it's fine. The
Speaker 1: song I really don't like that everybody likes is there
Speaker 1: the one from Pretty Woman? They like?
Speaker 2: It?
Speaker 1: Must have been loved? I love that song.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: I bought that stupid soundtrack because it had that song
Speaker 3: on their addition to other songs.
Speaker 2: But we can disagree.
Speaker 4: That's okay, We're allowed to disagree.
Speaker 3: Number One Janet Jackson Escapade Loved Loved.
Speaker 2: I still love everything, Still love that song. Still love Janet.
Speaker 2: She looks amazing by the way.
Speaker 4: Yes, I saw her going last year. She was amazing.
Speaker 2: We had such a time.
Speaker 1: Puts on an amazing show. My friend, What else are
Speaker 1: you dorking out about?
Speaker 2: There's the podcast The King Cast. It's a podcast about
Speaker 2: Stephen King and the movies and stuff.
Speaker 3: The discussion this week in this episode that I'm talking about,
Speaker 3: it's about The Stand and it's the nineteen.
Speaker 2: Ninety four TV movie that was.
Speaker 3: On three nights. Yeah, and I watched every night I
Speaker 3: recorded it. I was totally into it. I'm a huge
Speaker 3: Stephen King geek. And it's one of those things like
Speaker 3: I wanted to get into podcasting just so I can
Speaker 3: talk about Stephen King and the stand.
Speaker 2: I'm not even kidding you when I say that.
Speaker 1: Well, then we need to move it up the list.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, anytime, yes, okay, but they did a
Speaker 3: great job with it. Number the next one is Karen
Speaker 3: Reid was acquitted of murder, and the cops and everybody
Speaker 3: on the other side.
Speaker 2: We're on twenty twenty. I don't know if you saw
Speaker 2: the special Margot.
Speaker 1: I literally watched this this morning's Okay.
Speaker 2: I watched this last night. Yep.
Speaker 3: These are the biggest bunch of yahoos. And I lived
Speaker 3: in Canton, Massachusetts. I'd be really, really fucking worried about
Speaker 3: what would happen if a real crime happened to me,
Speaker 3: Like if a crime happened to me, like how the
Speaker 3: fuck it would be taken care of? Because these bozos
Speaker 3: that are in charge that the there's a scene where
Speaker 3: there's a man where they said John who died. They
Speaker 3: it's either he was found in the snow outside his
Speaker 3: friend's home and either he was killed inside the home
Speaker 3: and they dragged him out there, or the theory that
Speaker 3: state said was that.
Speaker 2: Karen he he was.
Speaker 3: Somehow on the lawnch somehow ran him over and that
Speaker 3: just ran that drove away and then nobody else saw it, right,
Speaker 3: And it's like, what how does that work? And we
Speaker 3: should say it's a snowstorm. That's happening by the way.
Speaker 3: At the same time, so the reporter is like, Okay,
Speaker 3: so your friend John is dying outside on your lawn.
Speaker 3: It's snowing. All the cops are there, the ambulances are there.
Speaker 3: How come you didn't go outside to help him? And
Speaker 3: it's like, because I'm not a I'm a Boston cop,
Speaker 3: I'm not a Canton cop. And I'm like, so you
Speaker 3: can't go outside your house as if you have no
Speaker 3: training with these things. Yeah, and then he said I
Speaker 3: loved him like a brother.
Speaker 2: You didn't go to his funeral?
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, you destroyed.
Speaker 3: Your phone, you got rid of that, you got rid
Speaker 3: of the dog that you were taking. That's like to me, like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, they rehomed the dog. Would you rehome
Speaker 3: your dog's easily?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: No, not at all, they not at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's covered by the way, he's covered in
Speaker 1: these like scratches and bites. That tested positive for like
Speaker 1: pig DNA, And the reason it tested positive is because
Speaker 1: people give their dogs like pigs ears to chew on. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: it's a whole thing.
Speaker 4: It's the bananas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a there's an there's a fresh you know,
Speaker 3: there's an open market here in Brooklyn, and like there's
Speaker 3: a huge line for these pig bones and chickens feet
Speaker 3: and stuff like I know, but anyway, these idiots and
Speaker 3: morons that are in charge over there, I would be
Speaker 3: I mean, we need they need to clean house, y'all.
Speaker 2: Because and the reporter was was remarkably restrained.
Speaker 3: I think, like I'm a little surprised a couple of
Speaker 3: times he didn't just interject like are.
Speaker 2: You fucking kidding me?
Speaker 1: It's just you know, I don't we don't know what
Speaker 1: really happened. Obviously we're not there. No, Like their case
Speaker 1: against her is was pretty shitty. It's not a very
Speaker 1: good case. And there's a shit ton of reasonable doubt there,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. And I don't know, it's the way
Speaker 1: they behaved is so weird. Yeah, with the with the
Speaker 1: destroying of phones, rehoming the dog, redecorating their home like
Speaker 1: or like you know how they like redid that room
Speaker 1: support like all that. Also, like if he was out there,
Speaker 1: they all didn't like spend the night. Did they didn't
Speaker 1: they leave and go home?
Speaker 4: Would they? Wouldn't they have seen him?
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: It's it's a it's yeah, it's a twenty twenty special.
Speaker 3: It will if you're looking for rage bait, like that's
Speaker 3: a good place to start because you'll just be It's
Speaker 3: such a banana story. It's like something that took over
Speaker 3: the media here and it's it's and normally people don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know why Proctor, that Michael Proctor, why he
Speaker 3: did the I don't understand why any of these people
Speaker 3: talk to the press because.
Speaker 2: It did them no fucking favors.
Speaker 4: No, that guy.
Speaker 1: He had all kinds of things on his phone where
Speaker 1: he said some pretty fucked up shit about her. And
Speaker 1: it's like, damn, dude, damn he's married, too nasty and
Speaker 1: he has wife on there defending him.
Speaker 2: It's just it's crazy. I watched I started last night.
Speaker 2: I had to stop.
Speaker 3: It's on Max. It was the Ohio State. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: it's gonna raige you, it'll enrage you. It's a it's
Speaker 3: it's right up there with Larry Nasser when he was
Speaker 3: molesting all these gymnasts. They have a doctor here at
Speaker 3: OSU that was molesting. It was it was the I
Speaker 3: don't know if it was the football it was the
Speaker 3: fencing team, the wrestling team.
Speaker 1: Here's the team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he went through all these teams. Sonya.
Speaker 3: There's a guy that was in the fencing team who
Speaker 3: had his ear chopped class. But it was an that happens.
Speaker 3: It's fencing. It's like a nick, you know, on his ear.
Speaker 3: And they're like, oh, go to the dock to the doctor.
Speaker 3: The normal doctor wasn't there. They're like, oh, go to
Speaker 3: this doctor. That's where all the those wrestlers go to.
Speaker 2: Everybody.
Speaker 3: They say, they say, he's really good, Say all right,
Speaker 3: cut his ear. He goes in there and the man's
Speaker 3: like take off your pants and underwear.
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh my god, he's a fucking pig.
Speaker 3: And Jim Jordan fucking knew about it and didn't do
Speaker 3: a goddamn thing. And to watch these men were in
Speaker 3: their forties and fifties and sixties and talking about stuff
Speaker 3: that they said. I couldn't even talk about it because
Speaker 3: I would have been made fun of.
Speaker 2: Yes, they and that, and that's also a part. That's
Speaker 2: the shame that's put in there.
Speaker 3: And uh, yeah, it's going to enrage you, but it's
Speaker 3: very interesting. And uh, on Netflix, the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders
Speaker 3: they had they have the second season good news they got.
Speaker 3: I think they did this right. It was only seven episodes.
Speaker 3: I don't think it needed to be more. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think I think it was. Did you see it all?
Speaker 1: I did?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was.
Speaker 3: I really liked the setup of it. I think you
Speaker 3: get to know the cheerleaders far better.
Speaker 1: Yes, And and.
Speaker 2: I think and the and the what they had.
Speaker 3: This on here in America they had on CMT and
Speaker 3: it was like making the team das Cowboy Cheerleaders an
Speaker 3: out like twelve years I did, but it got too
Speaker 3: repetitive because it's just like we have all these girls
Speaker 3: from all over the world and they can't do splits
Speaker 3: and that one can't do that. And this is far
Speaker 3: more interesting because it just really goes into and it's
Speaker 3: like these players that were suing for more money, they
Speaker 3: were just they were they were bargaining excuse me, to
Speaker 3: increase their checks, and it's like people still want to
Speaker 3: keep them in a bubble and like, no, no, this
Speaker 3: is who you are.
Speaker 2: This is where it's always been. And they have these
Speaker 2: two women in charge.
Speaker 3: That have been the organization for forty plus years and they.
Speaker 2: Don't want to change things because it's what they know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's interesting to watch these young women, and
Speaker 3: especially I was so impressed with a couple of them
Speaker 3: were just like, well, if I get kicked off the team,
Speaker 3: but it helps somebody else the next year and the
Speaker 3: year after that, I'm okay with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: There was Jada and someone named Armani and I think
Speaker 1: the other one's name is Megan. They they were the
Speaker 1: ones that were and maybe someone named Kelly. They were
Speaker 1: like leading the charge on this. But I think if
Speaker 1: you watch season one, you are rewarded by season two.
Speaker 1: Like season one is very much like this is what
Speaker 1: it's like to be a cheerleader. This is how you
Speaker 1: try out for the team, and this is what you
Speaker 1: do when you're here, and season two we actually get
Speaker 1: to spend more time getting to know the different cheerleaders
Speaker 1: instead of spending so much time in the this is
Speaker 1: what it's like. It's this and this and this and this,
Speaker 1: So you get to go like a little bit deeper.
Speaker 1: There's the stuff about the money that is super interesting.
Speaker 1: There is a whole thing where they go to the
Speaker 1: Bahamas and something happens.
Speaker 4: Where have you finished the whole thing?
Speaker 2: No, I'm in the middle of it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't want to ruin things for people, but
Speaker 1: there is a whole thing about the safety that you need.
Speaker 1: They need to be careful about disclosing, like where they're
Speaker 1: staying when they're out places, because people are very obsessed
Speaker 1: with the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders, so they when they're out,
Speaker 1: like they they all take a group trip to the Bahamas,
Speaker 1: like their whole thing, Like, you can't tell people where
Speaker 1: you're staying because people will then show up at the
Speaker 1: hotel and like they hurt, right cheerleaders and things like that.
Speaker 1: So there's some stuff like that, and also just a
Speaker 1: reminder that there's also a reminder that the physical toll
Speaker 1: that this and a cheerleader takes on their bodies. And
Speaker 1: it's very well done. It's insanely watchable. I watched all
Speaker 1: seven episodes over like two days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really really watchable and interesting. Yeah, and I
Speaker 3: really appreciated it. And then going back to Max Max
Speaker 3: and just like that.
Speaker 1: Ah, I love how you say, Andrew, it is.
Speaker 3: One of the worst. I mean, they just keep getting
Speaker 3: worse and worse. These characters are nothing like you knew
Speaker 3: if you loved Sex in the City. No one behaves
Speaker 3: like they did in Sex and the City. It's there's
Speaker 3: a whole thing in this Adria. So Aiden, excuse me,
Speaker 3: told her I don't want to see you for five years.
Speaker 3: And then she comes to Virginia because she has a
Speaker 3: signing there, and he's like, oh, stay at my place,
Speaker 3: but you could stay in the guest house, you know,
Speaker 3: because I don't want my sons to be overwhelmed. She's like, okay,
Speaker 3: So that's how they end last week. This week they end,
Speaker 3: they open it up. So she's wearing the outfit she
Speaker 3: wore the day before because she and Sema had left
Speaker 3: their luggage in their car that they destroyed the tires
Speaker 3: going out the wrong way out of a bank.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, they're so dumb, and they.
Speaker 3: Left it all in the trunk. They didn't even put
Speaker 3: in the back seat. So at least remind them that.
Speaker 3: So in the meantime, she is not it's a small
Speaker 3: town in Virginia. How many places can they a tow
Speaker 3: truck go, like, you can find your fucking luggage.
Speaker 2: No. She wakes up in a total New York City outfit.
Speaker 3: She's wearing like basically kiss boots, like these super high heels,
Speaker 3: and then she's and so she wakes up in her
Speaker 3: clothes and she sees two of his sons are outside
Speaker 3: her window and it's like on a They're on ladders.
Speaker 3: He's instructing his sons to repaint the guest house in
Speaker 3: honor of her. What that's what he's telling his sons. Okay,
Speaker 3: you need to repaint this house to make Carrie feel welcome.
Speaker 3: So Carrie wakes up and there's two teenage boys like
Speaker 3: staring at her through a window.
Speaker 1: Okay. Also, he didn't want them to know she was right,
Speaker 1: but now he does want them to know, and they need.
Speaker 4: To do a chore to make her.
Speaker 3: It's because he has a son named Wyatt who's sixteen,
Speaker 3: and Wyatt got drunk and crashed a car and which
Speaker 3: is terrible, and that's one of the reasons.
Speaker 2: But his ex.
Speaker 3: Wife called Carrie and says, my son needs adderall but
Speaker 3: they have an adderall shortage where we are. I know
Speaker 3: this is a weird ask, but do you think you
Speaker 3: can get your hands on some? And of course Carrie
Speaker 3: tells Charlotte Charlotte's like, and Charlie gets in like five minutes.
Speaker 3: It's a whole joke, haha, all the moms in the
Speaker 3: Upper east Side.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 3: Right, So she brings the adderall and she gives it
Speaker 3: to Aiden, and he has a weird look on his
Speaker 3: face when she gives it to him. Turns out he
Speaker 3: doesn't want his son on adderall because he thinks he
Speaker 3: has substance abuse problems, so he doesn't want to give
Speaker 3: him any It's the Robert F. Kennedy Junior, Okay, thinking
Speaker 3: of like every drug is bad now because right, so,
Speaker 3: he thinks that his son, if I just make he's
Speaker 3: always yelling at him to get off his phone and
Speaker 3: get off the screens. He's like, if I just keep
Speaker 3: him physical and moving, he'll be better. So that's one
Speaker 3: the reason they are painting is to keep him occupied
Speaker 3: so he can't be busy hating Carrie, just yelling at
Speaker 3: this the bad decision that, the bad decisions he makes.
Speaker 3: And at one point he's screaming at his ex wife
Speaker 3: at his other son's birthday. They're trying to tell me
Speaker 3: how to raise my family. Blah blahcas oh, it's your
Speaker 3: family now.
Speaker 2: Like he wants to he's a narcissist. He's not that
Speaker 2: it's right.
Speaker 4: This is not the Aiden that we look.
Speaker 1: I know, people change all these things, but like, come this,
Speaker 1: this is like villain behavior.
Speaker 2: It's very much villain behavior.
Speaker 3: And then there's all this talk on Reddit and stuff
Speaker 3: about like either why it has ADHD or he could
Speaker 3: be on the spectrum, or there could be just other things.
Speaker 3: But he needs to be diagnosed and he needs to
Speaker 3: be treated for that. And Aiden's whole thing is like
Speaker 3: my dad handling things like oh, just yell at the
Speaker 3: kid and make them do physical things and they'll be fine.
Speaker 2: This.
Speaker 1: I had this discussion with my dad back when, because
Speaker 1: my son is on the spectrum. People listening, right, So
Speaker 1: for a long time, no that my son was diagnosed
Speaker 1: at like two and a half with autism, and and
Speaker 1: my dad was one like there's nothing wrong with him.
Speaker 1: A spank and won't fix right, you know, And I
Speaker 1: was like, time to go the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1: My dad does not think that way anymore, and he's
Speaker 1: learned a lot since then, Like is he perfect?
Speaker 4: Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Is he trying a little bit, but yeah, that that
Speaker 1: that's not a thing.
Speaker 4: That's not gonna work. It's not gonna work.
Speaker 3: It's not gonna work. And Carrie doesn't know because Carrie
Speaker 3: doesn't care. She's not a well she's not a kid person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she doesn't have kids. She doesn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's about a thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But she's so in love with she's so in
Speaker 3: love with the idea of the two of them being
Speaker 3: together that she can't possibly think about just dating another
Speaker 3: person that I don't know, lives in your city, that.
Speaker 2: I don't know, right, that doesn't make up rules.
Speaker 3: And he's constantly changing the goalpost for the rules. Okay,
Speaker 3: we can talk, but you know, I don't want to
Speaker 3: do FaceTime?
Speaker 2: Can we do this?
Speaker 3: And I get people have rules in the relationships, but
Speaker 3: it's like he's setting all the rules.
Speaker 1: This is interesting because this is the same kind of
Speaker 1: shit that happened in the original show with Big, right,
Speaker 1: Like Big was the one that had all the power
Speaker 1: in that relationship. He decided when they were together, not together,
Speaker 1: like where they were gonna live, where they were like whatever.
Speaker 1: Like it's just the same thing all over again.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 3: It's fun to watch, And that's not fun to watch,
Speaker 3: and it's frustrating, and it's just they and and and
Speaker 3: this kid needs help, I mean, and he like breaks
Speaker 3: a window. He is an argument with his brother and
Speaker 3: he breaks a window and he freaks out. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's annoying, but there's something underneath that, and you need
Speaker 3: to have the skills and you build that gradually, but
Speaker 3: just constantly yell at.
Speaker 1: Him, get off your screen.
Speaker 2: We're gonna go do this.
Speaker 3: Now, we're gonna go swimming, We're gonna do this, We're
Speaker 3: gonna do that. And it's like that doesn't work. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but he's like, I'm gonna pushed my way through it,
Speaker 3: and you know, and everyone will be and so it's
Speaker 3: just it's very frustrating.
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like a very fun watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's the thing with Sex and the City.
Speaker 2: It was fun. It was thirty minutes of fun. Yes,
Speaker 2: they got serious occasionally.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not like everybody's in a tragedy now,
Speaker 3: which is what it is here.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad I've still sitting this one out, but
Speaker 1: I appreciate your recaps.
Speaker 2: Yeah. See, I tell you what you don't so you
Speaker 2: don't have to watch it yourselves. But if you hear.
Speaker 3: People like complaining and they're like, oh my god, about
Speaker 3: Aiden and Carrie at this time. It's just like it's
Speaker 3: like she had a lobotomy, Like she just doesn't have
Speaker 3: any of her person and like she's.
Speaker 2: Good looking, she's super rich.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's got a cool job, lots of free time,
Speaker 3: likes to travel, like you can't find anybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also maybe she's like one of those that kind of
Speaker 1: like believe that there's this lore around Carrie and Aiden,
Speaker 1: right right, and their story, Yes, their story, and so
Speaker 1: it's like you don't want to give up that story,
Speaker 1: you know. It's like I'm gonna make the story work.
Speaker 1: I'm going to make sure the story has a happy ending.
Speaker 1: And it's like not every story does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
Speaker 4: Sorry, Carrie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, I'm done. Sorry, I talked long enough.
Speaker 1: No, you're all good. That's a bunch of good recks.
Speaker 1: I'm going to move that. Ohay, Ohio State documentary at
Speaker 1: my list.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I saw a couple of movies, so I'll start with
Speaker 1: the really bad one. I watched the Minecraft movie with
Speaker 1: my son because he is he loves Minecraft. He plays
Speaker 1: that shit all the time. And I watched the movie
Speaker 1: and it's terrible. It didn't feel like a movie.
Speaker 2: Did he like it?
Speaker 1: He loved it. He loved it. He is thirteen. He
Speaker 1: laughed throughout, he super enjoyed. And I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, this movie is not for me, and that
Speaker 1: is okay, not every movie needs to be for me.
Speaker 1: Jack Black is like dialed up to like eleven in
Speaker 1: this movie. I like Jack Black very much. That's it's
Speaker 1: very manic. It's very like it's just over the every
Speaker 1: line delivery is super over the top, which I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe that's fine for this kind of It's a video
Speaker 1: game movie. It's set in a video game basically, you know,
Speaker 1: and all the animals and people they're all these like
Speaker 1: kind of square blocks. It looks like Minecraft. The effects
Speaker 1: are pretty cool.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 1: The jokes are real dumb. It's you know, people getting
Speaker 1: hip by cars or tripping over things or whatever. It's
Speaker 1: just real dumb. But a thirteen year old boy loved it.
Speaker 1: He loved it, like he rewound it right when it
Speaker 1: was over and started watching other parts again. But it
Speaker 1: has this like it's got Jack Black, who I love,
Speaker 1: and great Jason, Oh wow, it's got Jennifer Coolidge is
Speaker 1: in there, like it's got good people.
Speaker 2: It's can I ask a question? Yes, I don't even
Speaker 2: know what Minecraft is.
Speaker 1: It is a it's a video game that you can
Speaker 1: kind of you can build like your own world in it,
Speaker 1: Like you can uh like build homes and creatures, and
Speaker 1: and then there's these things in the game, like there's
Speaker 1: like you could build up a village and all these
Speaker 1: villagers move in. There's all kinds of animals that it's
Speaker 1: like farming stuff.
Speaker 4: There's like you.
Speaker 1: Can do mining because of Minecraft, and then you make things.
Speaker 1: You can play it as like a game where you're
Speaker 1: trying to score points and stuff, but also you can
Speaker 1: do it on like a I get a create world.
Speaker 1: That's what my son likes to play in the creative world,
Speaker 1: where it's no there's no score, it's just you're just
Speaker 1: doing stuff in it. Kids love it. They love Minecraft
Speaker 1: and they love Roadblocks, which is seems very similar to me,
Speaker 1: where you can kind of build your own video game
Speaker 1: in it. But I acknowledge that these movies. This movie,
Speaker 1: by the way, made a shit ton of money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like one of the top grossing movies of the year,
Speaker 1: and kids went to see it over and over again,
Speaker 1: and they were like yelling things at the screen and
Speaker 1: turning it into their thing, and I'm like, hey, I
Speaker 1: think it's kids excited about going to the movies.
Speaker 4: I'm all for it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 4: Not a good movie.
Speaker 1: Like anyone who doesn't play minecraft will watch it and go, well,
Speaker 1: this is trashed, and they would be.
Speaker 2: Right, there's no novies.
Speaker 3: I love Jack Black, yah and I and I loved
Speaker 3: his media tour for it.
Speaker 2: Yes, but I think that's enough for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And he's a great person to cast for a movie
Speaker 1: like this because he is like a very animated person.
Speaker 1: He can be very cartoony, you know. Jason Momoa is
Speaker 1: like that too. He's already like a really big person,
Speaker 1: like he seems almost unreal already. So these are good
Speaker 1: people to cast for stuff like this. It's just the
Speaker 1: movie doesn't make any sense. It's really dumb.
Speaker 4: I wish it was.
Speaker 1: I wish it had just been a little bit more clever.
Speaker 4: There's but it's just not that kind of movie.
Speaker 2: It's not that kind of film.
Speaker 4: So that's what it is.
Speaker 1: I also saw The Materialists, which, oh my god, the
Speaker 1: internet is very divided over. First of all, this movie
Speaker 1: was marketed as a rom com.
Speaker 2: It is not.
Speaker 1: It is not a rom com. It is not funny.
Speaker 1: It's not trying to be funny. It's more of a
Speaker 1: romantic drama, or maybe just a drama with some romance.
Speaker 4: It's not that kind of movie.
Speaker 1: But Dakota Johnson is playing a matchmaker in New York
Speaker 1: and the movie has a lot to say about dating
Speaker 1: culture and what people say they want. Right, So, like
Speaker 1: all the women are like, he needs to make this
Speaker 1: much money and he needs to be over six feet tall,
Speaker 1: and you know, all the men are in their fifties,
Speaker 1: and they're like, she needs to be like in her
Speaker 1: twenties or something, and they're like, well, she's twenty nine
Speaker 1: and he's like, well that's practically thirty, so younger than that,
Speaker 1: like that sort of thing. So there's that, but it's
Speaker 1: also like what do you really want though, Like you
Speaker 1: say you want those things, but that her whole thing
Speaker 1: is she wants a rich man for herself. She grew
Speaker 1: up poor. She dated Chris Evans's character when she was
Speaker 1: younger and he was poor and she is poor, and
Speaker 1: she's like, I want to marry rich.
Speaker 4: And then she meets.
Speaker 1: Eddrow Pascal, who's Pedro pascaling it the most. He's so handsome,
Speaker 1: he's so charming all of these things, and he likes her,
Speaker 1: and she's like, you don't really like me, you want
Speaker 1: someone younger. She's trying to talk him out of it,
Speaker 1: but he really likes her, and they go on some
Speaker 1: dates and they start hooking up and they seem to
Speaker 1: really enjoy each other. They're not maybe in love, but
Speaker 1: they're enjoying each other. Meanwhile, she's also hanging out with
Speaker 1: Chris Evans again, who is a struggling actor. He's forty,
Speaker 1: he has roommates, he works as a cater waiter, and
Speaker 1: she is trying to figure out do I actually want
Speaker 1: to marry rich and love is never going to be
Speaker 1: on the table, or do I really want love and
Speaker 1: I'm not going to spoil anything, but she has to
Speaker 1: make a decision. So if that's the kind of movie
Speaker 1: that interests you, then you might like The Materialists. If
Speaker 1: you want a rom com, this is not it. There's
Speaker 1: also a sexual assault subplot in here that they don't
Speaker 1: hint at or give you a trigger warning for. So
Speaker 1: if that part, that kind of thing really really upsets you, this.
Speaker 4: Is not for you.
Speaker 2: Does it happen to one of the characters.
Speaker 1: No, it happens to a like a side one of
Speaker 1: her clients.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Okay, and.
Speaker 4: It's used as a way to.
Speaker 1: Move her storyline forward in a way that might leave
Speaker 1: a bad taste in some people's mouths. Okay, the cast
Speaker 1: is great. I like Dakota Johnson. She is someone who
Speaker 1: rubs people the wrong way.
Speaker 4: I like her.
Speaker 1: I love Pedro Pascal obviously, and I love Christmas and
Speaker 1: Chris Evans and they're.
Speaker 4: All like beautiful people.
Speaker 1: And it's got a very mixed reaction online where you know,
Speaker 1: people are like, well, this is poor boy propaganda, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I see what they're saying. But also I
Speaker 1: think it's trying to say what you want, what you
Speaker 1: really want is love and not everybody is going to
Speaker 1: check every box. Like, that's just not a there is
Speaker 1: no perfect person. Yes, the gamification of dating apps has
Speaker 1: made people feel like it is a game to be
Speaker 1: won and you could find like you could build your
Speaker 1: perfect person in this app, and it's like that's just
Speaker 1: not a thing that exists. Like she refers to Pedro
Speaker 1: Pescal throughout the movie as a unicorn because he's like rich,
Speaker 1: he's like six feet tall. You know, he's super handsome,
Speaker 1: he's very kind, you know, and it's like he checks
Speaker 1: like every box for like a dream woman, you know,
Speaker 1: a dream man, and those kinds of goals are not attainable.
Speaker 1: It's you have to find someone who's fucked up works
Speaker 1: with your fucked up, and I.
Speaker 4: Think that's what the movie's trying.
Speaker 1: This is the same writer director who did Past Lives,
Speaker 1: which is a really good movie too and also not
Speaker 1: a comedy and more of a romantic drama. And some
Speaker 1: people are walking into this one really disappointed. But I
Speaker 1: still liked it, so I think it's worth streaming when
Speaker 1: it's streaming.
Speaker 4: I don't think you need to run.
Speaker 1: Out to the theater to see it though, yeah, unless
Speaker 1: you're like a huge fan of those people. So other things,
Speaker 1: Oh love Hotel ended?
Speaker 4: Yes, what did you think about the end?
Speaker 2: I think it ended perfectly.
Speaker 3: I think, of course, you know, Shannon's gonna go with
Speaker 3: Merle the Pearl because she wants to keep up like
Speaker 3: she for her If you watch Shannon on OC like,
Speaker 3: she always has to have a man, she always has
Speaker 3: to have a boyfriend, so for her to like find
Speaker 3: somebody that could tolerate her is a big.
Speaker 2: Hurdle to overcome.
Speaker 3: So even though they're not completely compatible. Like it doesn't
Speaker 3: surprise me. Lu Anne is still dating that guy.
Speaker 1: Yes, I saw that, Like she left with James and
Speaker 1: that dude's a fucking kook, but like, yeah, but so
Speaker 1: is she and whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they're still together. I'm like that.
Speaker 1: They're so fascinating.
Speaker 2: It's really interesting.
Speaker 3: I mean, she really she really likes him, like like
Speaker 3: all the stuff that makes everybody else go in or
Speaker 3: you know, roll your eyes.
Speaker 2: She thinks it's fun.
Speaker 3: So there's a lid. You know, there's a lid for
Speaker 3: every pot. I say, yes, that's true, exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I thought it was I can't wait till they do
Speaker 3: another one. And it was a really good cast of people.
Speaker 3: It was a good mixture of different men that came
Speaker 3: in and out of the competition or whatever you want
Speaker 3: to call it. And I thought it was great.
Speaker 2: I really do.
Speaker 1: It's really really enjoyable. I of course, Shannon's like Earl
Speaker 1: leave the check out of the Love Hotel with me,
Speaker 1: and then you find out that and like they didn't
Speaker 1: last very.
Speaker 3: Long, Like yeah, real life is going to kick you
Speaker 3: on the teeth at some point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lou Anne and that.
Speaker 1: And James are still together. Giselle picked the person I
Speaker 1: didn't think she would pick, and then they never really
Speaker 1: got to.
Speaker 3: Get the never they never they were going to hang
Speaker 3: out on Halloween and they never did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then she's been hanging out with the other
Speaker 1: man or she's going to go visit him or something.
Speaker 1: But also I'm just like, I don't know, does Gizelle
Speaker 1: really want a man in her life.
Speaker 4: I'm not convinced. I'm not convinced.
Speaker 3: No, no, And then Ashley of course has to pick
Speaker 3: the daddy.
Speaker 2: She's such a weirdo.
Speaker 4: But it's so funny.
Speaker 3: But it was, But I mean, it was a different
Speaker 3: kind of dating show, and I appreciated that because I'm
Speaker 3: sick of all the dating shows.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well I am watching, you know, Love Island USA, which
Speaker 1: is on like five nights a week, and actually one
Speaker 1: of the women, actually one of the couples I should say,
Speaker 1: in Love Island did something very similar to what Shannon
Speaker 1: did and Love Hotel, which is Shannon attached herself to
Speaker 1: like the first man that came in and paid attention
Speaker 1: to her, and she spent her whole time with Earle.
Speaker 1: She didn't really get to know anyone else. She spent
Speaker 1: her whole time with Earle. There is another couple on
Speaker 1: Love Island, Jeremiah and Huda, who were paired together in
Speaker 1: the first episode, and after like two weeks on the show,
Speaker 1: like she is, they are both like, no, we're together.
Speaker 4: We're the strongest couple.
Speaker 1: But you could see that, like he's maybe losing interest
Speaker 1: in her, but he wants to stay on the show,
Speaker 1: so he's not trying to break it off with her,
Speaker 1: but he's like backing away alone little bit. She also
Speaker 1: reveals that she's a mom, like she had hidden that
Speaker 1: from him and was like, by the way, I have
Speaker 1: a kid, and I was like, that is uncool, Like
Speaker 1: I understand, like single, I'm a single mom. You want
Speaker 1: people to get to know you, but like being a
Speaker 1: parent is part of who you are, and lying about
Speaker 1: that is well, first of all, it's stupid, like because
Speaker 1: how are you going to build trust with anyone if
Speaker 1: you're lying about something that important? And two, like why
Speaker 1: do you want to be with someone who would think
Speaker 1: that's a deal breaker? So it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: But then this was the this past week America got
Speaker 1: to vote finally, and America immediately split that couple. It's like,
Speaker 1: we're messy, messy and that man used it as an
Speaker 1: opportunity to be like bye, and like he moved on,
Speaker 1: and she lost her shit in a way that at
Speaker 1: first was funny and then became really sad and became
Speaker 1: a point where people online were like, I'm worried for
Speaker 1: her mental health. Like she was crashing out after like
Speaker 1: two weeks acting like this man was the love of
Speaker 1: her life. It was really disturbing to watch. But I
Speaker 1: think she's finally turning a corner and she's trying to
Speaker 1: get to know some of the other people in the villa.
Speaker 1: But this show is messy and kind of gross. How
Speaker 1: much they make them all make out with each other. Again,
Speaker 1: I'm old, I'm an old prude. I guess so they
Speaker 1: they have them making out with each other all the time,
Speaker 1: and challenges they do weird gross like food challenges too,
Speaker 1: where they're like passing food back and forth between their mouths.
Speaker 1: That shit is nasty, nasty. But I don't know why
Speaker 1: they want to turn it into fear factor. I'm alwa
Speaker 1: it's just a dating show. Why are we doing all
Speaker 1: this fear factor shit? But it is a very entertaining
Speaker 1: shit show, and I watch every glorious second of it,
Speaker 1: so HI, high thumbs up for Love Island, USA. I've
Speaker 1: now got my sister addicted to it, so I have
Speaker 1: someone to text with. And I don't bother Margo with
Speaker 1: it because she's like, I'm not.
Speaker 4: Watching that bullshit.
Speaker 2: I'm not watching it. Sorry, No, that is.
Speaker 4: Not your jam And that is okay. Oh you know.
Speaker 1: There's actually one more thing I wanted to say about
Speaker 1: America's Sweethearts was the impact of the first season of
Speaker 1: the show what it has on the second one with
Speaker 1: the all the people that are now showing their love
Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders in a way that they
Speaker 1: weren't before. And they show all these especially women going
Speaker 1: to the football games now and they're wearing hats that
Speaker 1: says I'm just here for the cheerleaders. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: was like, I think that's really cool.
Speaker 3: Like I would totally go to a game and mostly
Speaker 3: be there for that. I mean, I love football, but
Speaker 3: I mean, but I think you and I would have
Speaker 3: a great time.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: But the idea that they then got to like perform
Speaker 1: with Dolly Parton and they who was the other one
Speaker 1: there was like another like old school country singer. They
Speaker 1: got to perform they're getting all these options or opportunities
Speaker 1: to perform where they weren't getting anymore. They probably got
Speaker 1: those in the seventies and eighties when they were at
Speaker 1: their peak, but now they're back on like NBC's like
Speaker 1: Christmas Show and you know, all of this stuff. So
Speaker 1: I think it's I love seeing the after effect of
Speaker 1: the first season because that's realistic. A show a Netflix
Speaker 1: that's really popular is going to have a huge influence
Speaker 1: on First of all, they should be making. They've recently
Speaker 1: got a.
Speaker 3: Raise, foise, so it's a decent raise, but they hadn't
Speaker 3: had one in years and years and years and it
Speaker 3: was nothing.
Speaker 4: Yes, and now they do.
Speaker 1: And a lot of that has to do with that
Speaker 1: first season, right, because they first of all, they showed
Speaker 1: how much work goes into it, but also the appearances
Speaker 1: went up, like it's really hard for them to work
Speaker 1: full time jobs or you know, or even part time jobs. Right,
Speaker 1: you're traveling all over to these appearances. So I think
Speaker 1: I think the show's really well done. So but I
Speaker 1: really just wanted to mention the hat, so I was like,
Speaker 1: I would wear that hat.
Speaker 2: Too, Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: So that's it for our list. If you like the
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Speaker 3: It's Claudine Langeais who murdered in nineteen seventy six skier
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Speaker 3: I had somebody reach out to me to say, you
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we love talking about Andy Williams. That was fun.
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Speaker 2: This was such a fun little trip to nineteen ninety You.
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Speaker 4: Now let's go do our hair.
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