WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.759 --> 00:00:06.040 It is your Channel nine's first warning weather forecast. It's 2 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:08.839 gonna beautiful day to day. I'd like low sixties temperatures. 3 00:00:08.839 --> 00:00:10.800 That's we're gonna get sunny skies in sixty one for 4 00:00:10.839 --> 00:00:13.560 the high thirty five over ninety clear skies, sunny and 5 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:16.839 sixty five tomorrow even better then over nine down to 6 00:00:16.920 --> 00:00:20.160 forty four with partly thirty skies any partly sunny Game 7 00:00:20.239 --> 00:00:22.600 Day Sunday with the highest seventy two forty four. Right now, 8 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:24.440 let's hear about Travis editions Chuck. 9 00:00:25.039 --> 00:00:26.440 From the UCL Tramphings Center. 10 00:00:26.480 --> 00:00:28.679 Count on the expert team at you See Health Orthopedic 11 00:00:28.679 --> 00:00:31.719 Sands Sports Medicine. No matter the injury, same day appointments 12 00:00:31.760 --> 00:00:34.679 are available schedule online at you see health dot com. 13 00:00:35.359 --> 00:00:37.679 Bothbound four to seventy one is blocked off in two 14 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:40.960 seventy five, all due to the problems on the bridge. 15 00:00:41.000 --> 00:00:45.439 All the entrance rams from Southgate from Grand, from Memorial 16 00:00:45.640 --> 00:00:49.520 and Bellevue all blocked off because of the closure. Southbound 17 00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:53.280 four seventy one is blocked coming out of downtown. Chuck 18 00:00:53.359 --> 00:00:55.960 Abram on fifty five krc the talk station. 19 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:01.119 A twenty nine fifty five KRCD talk station and a 20 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:02.240 very happy Friday too. 21 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:02.320 You. 22 00:01:02.359 --> 00:01:04.120 I hope you have some good plans for the weekend. 23 00:01:04.640 --> 00:01:07.359 I'm excited about that Vets and Bruce Bus next Saturday. 24 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:08.599 I sure hope I can make it to one of 25 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:11.959 the bars anyhow. In studio, we only had a whole 26 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:14.200 hour with Adam Kahler at seven oh five. He's running 27 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:17.159 for county commissioner, and so is my next guest in studio, 28 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:19.239 Jonathan Pearson. Great to have you back. It's always good 29 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:21.560 to see you. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate time. I 30 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:23.239 appreciate you making the effort to come in. It's much 31 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:25.239 easier to have a conversation with someone when you're staring 32 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:27.799 a man in the face. Of course, you have motivations 33 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:30.359 for running for county commissioner, and Adam express quite a 34 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:34.319 few different ones, most notably just the whole concept of 35 00:01:34.480 --> 00:01:39.400 having an alternative political voice, because if you get a 36 00:01:39.560 --> 00:01:43.560 different point of view. Obviously it's run by Democrats now, 37 00:01:43.599 --> 00:01:46.719 but we tend to have different political philosophis Republicans and Democrats, 38 00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:48.159 and it seems to me that they're getting further and 39 00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:52.920 further apart. But if I had to really peg generally speaking, 40 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:55.879 you know, this is not a free pass for all 41 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:59.200 people who label themselves Republicans. But I think Republicans tend 42 00:01:59.280 --> 00:02:03.519 to look at politics and budgets from a fiscal responsibility 43 00:02:03.560 --> 00:02:07.000 an efficiency standpoint. We want smaller government, and the government 44 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:09.759 that we have we want to be very efficient. That 45 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:12.280 doesn't seem to be the mindset of Democrats across the board, 46 00:02:12.280 --> 00:02:14.520 and Adam was pointing that out. Listen, if I just 47 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:18.159 got or a Republican on commission, they at least have 48 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:21.080 a dissenting voice, which would raise the level of the 49 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:24.879 public's awareness that an issue is even being discussed, because 50 00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:26.560 right now we got nothing. 51 00:02:26.919 --> 00:02:31.159 No, there's no transparency that I've told every news outlet 52 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:33.159 I've talked to. I said, I'll come to you every 53 00:02:33.159 --> 00:02:36.319 Friday and we'll talk about what went on. I love 54 00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:39.400 that because it's, first of all, we don't have any 55 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:43.919 nuclear secrets in this county, so there's nothing secret. That's 56 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:46.759 what I've never understood. There's nothing secret. You want to 57 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:48.400 know what the sheriff makes here it is. You want 58 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:49.719 to know what the deputies make here it is. You 59 00:02:49.759 --> 00:02:52.080 want to know what the commissioners and their workers make 60 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:54.360 here it is. And I think that's been the challenge. 61 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:56.039 It was nice to see in the paper the other 62 00:02:56.120 --> 00:02:58.479 day that there was a number that finally freaked out 63 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:02.960 the commissioners to say no, a billion dollars from So 64 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:06.960 we do know that there is a number out there. 65 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:09.840 It's only a billion, but it's a starting point only 66 00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:12.000 you know, a billion here, a billion there. Eventually we'll 67 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:12.800 talk about real money. 68 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:15.520 Yeah, exactly, like a thirty five trillion dollars budget or 69 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:18.319 debt with a trillion dollar annual debt service. 70 00:03:18.479 --> 00:03:18.879 You know that. 71 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:21.919 And I think that's the challenges from the Democrats standpoint. 72 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:26.560 They don't see tax dollars as the people's money. They 73 00:03:26.599 --> 00:03:28.960 see the tax dollars as their money. So if you 74 00:03:29.199 --> 00:03:31.439 actually say we're not going to raise the budget this year, 75 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:35.159 they call it the budget cut. And that's the difference 76 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:37.479 between a Republican and a Democrat. We don't see it 77 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:39.960 as a budget cut. What we see it is returning 78 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:44.879 money to the people, just as the tax dollars the rollback. 79 00:03:45.319 --> 00:03:47.520 Why isn't that permanent? And first of all, why do 80 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:48.960 we have to put it in there to bribe you 81 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:51.319 to get some more money to build a stadium. That 82 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:54.439 always bugged me, that was a bribe, flat out bribe. 83 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:57.400 It was, and unfortunately people fell for it. And typical 84 00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:01.919 of oys once once a tax is made, never comes back. Well, 85 00:04:02.719 --> 00:04:05.800 we've got to stop this mentality. We're not bribing the 86 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:08.599 people to make them give us money. That seems ludicrous 87 00:04:08.599 --> 00:04:11.360 in the first place, plus insulting. Let's do a right 88 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:13.439 budget that people go. I can agree with that. 89 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:16.639 Yeah, and similar and I keep bringing up Adam Kaylor, 90 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:21.000 but comparable positions. You know, let's go line by line. 91 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:24.519 Let's get the taxpayer and explanation, like if they're paying 92 00:04:24.560 --> 00:04:27.680 ten thousand dollars a year and taxes, let's show me 93 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:30.639 exactly what percentage is going where. And then let's look 94 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:33.800 at each individual office government of course or under the 95 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:39.639 commissioner's you know control or within their reach, and look 96 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:42.040 at each one and see, you know, the world's a 97 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:44.480 different place. And he mentioned artificial intelligence can be used 98 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:48.639 as streamline processes, you know, maybe pair back some of 99 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:51.079 the employees in the county or otherwise give them something 100 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:54.000 more fit, more, something better to do that would cheer 101 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:57.279 them up. But I know there's waste. Oh, you know 102 00:04:57.319 --> 00:04:59.279 there's waste. Well, here's what I always say. 103 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:03.600 If there's a lack of transparency, you have to question 104 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:07.279 why I don't care who we're talking about. You know, 105 00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:09.680 if there's a lack of transparency and the communications of 106 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:12.360 a parent to a child, let's even go that mundane. 107 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:15.040 But especially when you're talking to government to the people, 108 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:17.120 you have to be a little concerned when there's a 109 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:20.600 lack of transparency. You just have to be because why, 110 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:23.279 it's it's not their money, it's it's our money. It's 111 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:25.560 the people's money that people have a right to know. 112 00:05:25.959 --> 00:05:27.639 And so Adam and I are in the same page. 113 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:31.040 We're on the exact same page and looking at that budget, 114 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:33.160 we're on the exact same page about letting people know 115 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:36.279 where that money's going so that there's not a question. 116 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:38.680 And our goal is to set up in such a 117 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:41.319 way that it's going to be really hard to do 118 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:42.839 something stupid with the money. 119 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:45.040 I love that. I love it. 120 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.319 And of course, with your open door policy and your 121 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:49.279 promise to the press that you'll show up every week 122 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:53.480 explaining what has gone on the preceding week, that that 123 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:56.240 is a unique idea that has not been embraced by 124 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:58.639 someone in politics before. It just seems that no one 125 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:00.720 is ever willing to do that or all Alternatively, if 126 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:03.879 it is happening, there's no local reporter there to even 127 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:06.319 hear what you're saying, and I think that may be 128 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:07.160 more of a problem. 129 00:06:07.360 --> 00:06:10.800 It's a position that's paid well at the very least, 130 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:13.240 if you're being paid by the people, you should probably 131 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:14.240 talk to the people. 132 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:19.439 What's a complicated prosle concept, Jonathan Pearson. If you want 133 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:22.079 information about Jonathan where he stands on issues, go to 134 00:06:22.120 --> 00:06:25.160 Hamilton County Republican Party dot org and he's got his 135 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:28.120 own page right there Jonathan Pearson twenty twenty four. Should 136 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:30.199 be really easy to find it, or alternatively, do what 137 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:34.439 I did. Jonathan Pearson, j jo n A Thha and 138 00:06:35.439 --> 00:06:38.879 Pearson's typing that a county commissioner. It'll pop right up 139 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:41.720 on your search engine. We'll continue with Jonathan. It's Ay 140 00:06:41.720 --> 00:06:44.720 thirty five here, stay right around at fifty five KCD 141 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:46.560 talk station fifty. 142 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:50.319 Five car the talk station. Have you heard about this guy, 143 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:51.279 Donald Rainwater. 144 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:56.480 Here's your Channel nine first morning weather forecast. Pretty nice 145 00:06:56.519 --> 00:06:58.680 day to day, plenty of sun, high sixty one, clear 146 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:00.519 of a night down to thirty five each tomorrow with 147 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:03.360 the highest sixty five. Get us some clouds over Saturday 148 00:07:03.439 --> 00:07:07.120 night and drop to forty four partly sunny day on Sunday, 149 00:07:07.160 --> 00:07:10.920 maybe a shower chance anyhow, and I have seventy two 150 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:12.040 forty four degrees right now. 151 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:15.199 Let's get an update from Chuck. What's going on brother from. 152 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:17.560 The UCLP Traffics Center down on the expert team at 153 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:20.399 you See Health Orthopedix sand Sports Medicine. No matter the injury, 154 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:23.279 same day appointments are available schedule online at you see 155 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:26.920 health dot com. Northbound fourth seventy one and southbound fourth 156 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:30.560 seventy one are both blocked off at the bridge thanks 157 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:35.040 to an overnight fire underneath the bridge. They've blocked off 158 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:38.079 the traffic on northbound four seventy one at two seventy five. 159 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:40.839 That's making for a slow go over to the Double 160 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:43.879 A Highway inbound seventy four. They just cleared their reck 161 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:48.079 at seventy five. Chuck Ingramom fifty five KRC the talk station. 162 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:52.319 Hey, thirty eight fifty five kr CD Talk station, A 163 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:54.439 very happy Friday to you. Don't forget fifty five kr 164 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:57.160 SEA dot com. Get your uh iHeart Media f so 165 00:07:57.160 --> 00:07:59.360 you can stream the audio and check out the podcast 166 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:02.680 anytime you want. Really valuable information from Dave Hatter This 167 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:05.439 Morning Tech Friday, as is always the case, full hour 168 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:07.800 with Adam Kahler running for Commissioner. We had Matt Damaris 169 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:11.079 on the Vets and Bruce Love that Organization, and Jonathan 170 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:14.439 Pearson in studio. He's also running for Commissioner on a solid, 171 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:19.839 open door, open book platform because he wants to know 172 00:08:19.879 --> 00:08:22.680 the information and as a taxpayer, you should too, or 173 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:25.079 at least if you want it, you should be able 174 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:27.000 to get it. You know, you were talking about that 175 00:08:27.079 --> 00:08:30.800 they refuse to provide information. They're not open with the books. 176 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:33.679 Where do the money go? Specifically? They talk in platitudes 177 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:36.919 and generalities about where the money is being spent, but 178 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:40.960 not you know, specifically. You don't reminded me of all 179 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:46.840 these House committees looking for information, and they preside over 180 00:08:47.080 --> 00:08:50.519 and are responsible to the American voter for what Department 181 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:53.519 of Justice, the FBI, any of the lettered agencies does, 182 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:56.919 and those agencies basically raise a metaphorical, if not real, 183 00:08:57.000 --> 00:08:59.840 middle finger to the request for information from the people 184 00:08:59.879 --> 00:09:02.519 who were in charge and responsible for looking out for us. 185 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:08.960 It's kind of a it's a uniquely bizarre, yet it 186 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:11.240 widely embraced concept. 187 00:09:10.799 --> 00:09:13.200 That well, I think part of The problem is that 188 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:15.159 we see on the left that they're driven by emotion, 189 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:19.559 and so you speak from emotion first, and you don't 190 00:09:19.559 --> 00:09:22.720 always write that stuff down, at least not accurately. 191 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:25.480 Let's say it that way. You vote money the same way. 192 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:28.360 You just go, oh, let's take care of this problem, 193 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:32.639 without considering how much that problem costs. And so you 194 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:35.080 just say yes to these things, and then when somebody 195 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:36.240 ask you, why did you do this? 196 00:09:36.279 --> 00:09:37.279 How much did you spend? 197 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:39.840 Honestly, I do believe there are many people on the 198 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:42.679 left who honestly can't answer that question truthfully because they 199 00:09:42.759 --> 00:09:43.240 don't know. 200 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:45.960 Well, you could probably say the same thing on the right, 201 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:48.879 because if we ask for it, and it's a commission 202 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:51.639 governed by all Democrats, then the right's not going to 203 00:09:51.639 --> 00:09:52.240 get the information. 204 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:54.639 You know. Yeah, that's a great challenge, and that's why 205 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:56.879 we're sitting here in this kind of staring at the 206 00:09:56.919 --> 00:10:01.080 wall moment, and everybody's going and then when something stupid 207 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:03.600 does happen, which we've seen of late, there's just a 208 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:05.960 rewrite of what actually happened. 209 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:08.799 That and of course a lost opportunity to get ahead 210 00:10:08.840 --> 00:10:12.279 of the problem. Right, having an open conversation about the 211 00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:16.200 best practice for solving the problem or even identifying if 212 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:18.799 whatever it is that's brought up is a problem in 213 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:21.440 the first place. Yeah, I mean, we all love our parks, 214 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:22.879 but if they ask for a levee, is it just 215 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:25.080 simply you know, we're gonna, oh my god, if we 216 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:26.799 don't pass the levee, the parks are going to close 217 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:27.159 down at. 218 00:10:27.080 --> 00:10:29.399 This way double the library levee. And they didn't even 219 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:29.799 need it. 220 00:10:29.879 --> 00:10:31.360 Yeah, I know, but you can get. 221 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:33.320 Your if you work there, you can get a sex 222 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:35.080 change and for free. 223 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:38.879 Now apparently so sex change simps. 224 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:44.159 There's a library where at Sims Township on Enyard. It's 225 00:10:44.159 --> 00:10:48.799 in Hamilton County, and it's perfectly fine. The building is beautiful. 226 00:10:49.480 --> 00:10:52.120 They're going to knock it down and build a new 227 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:55.240 one and move it back. And you know why they're 228 00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:58.279 knocking down a perfectly good, beautiful building. They say there's 229 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:01.440 not enough parking right there. And I thought to myself, 230 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:06.279 there is a huge front yard. It's just like, you know, 231 00:11:06.279 --> 00:11:10.679 a third acre of grass pave it. What is that 232 00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:12.559 going to run the esthetics of the library Because you 233 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:14.759 have parking all around the library as opposed to just 234 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:17.120 on the left hand side. I just heard that yesterday. 235 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:19.679 I couldn't believe it, but that's going to be millions 236 00:11:19.679 --> 00:11:20.200 of dollars. 237 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:24.919 But when tax dollars are involved, unfortunately, people don't see 238 00:11:25.399 --> 00:11:28.240 the number. They just see the idea and say, let's 239 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:28.639 do it. 240 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:31.919 All right, let's pivot over to something that is very controversial, 241 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:35.480 considering we got that shaft the first time around, the 242 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:38.600 pay Course stadium lease and the obligations under the lease, 243 00:11:38.600 --> 00:11:42.240 which is going to expire unless the Bengals exercise their 244 00:11:42.320 --> 00:11:45.080 right to extend it, which they can do multiple times. 245 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:46.960 So we're either going to get a brand new lease 246 00:11:47.000 --> 00:11:49.080 deal or that one's going to be extended and will 247 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:51.799 still be subject to the original terms of conditions which 248 00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:54.960 obligate the taxpayers of Hamilton County to make some improvements. 249 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:58.559 Last bill I heard was one point three or two 250 00:11:58.759 --> 00:11:59.720 billion dollars. 251 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:02.559 Billion was just for the upgrades around it. That didn't 252 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:04.519 include the roof that you know. 253 00:12:04.639 --> 00:12:06.919 Oh, that the dome is is, that's that's gone. 254 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:09.320 Yeah, that was going to be a total and two 255 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:11.159 point three billion if you put the dome over it. 256 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:12.039 So we're not getting it done. 257 00:12:12.120 --> 00:12:13.960 But the challenge that we face in all of this 258 00:12:14.279 --> 00:12:16.879 is one of those things is having some luxury apartment 259 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:19.840 or offices so the Bengals can have their own separate 260 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:21.399 office building outside of that building. 261 00:12:21.519 --> 00:12:23.080 That's see, and I would argue that's not part of 262 00:12:23.120 --> 00:12:24.039 the stadium upgrades. 263 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:26.919 That's well, you can see. There's a lot of things 264 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:29.440 I look at and go, wait a minute. Because the 265 00:12:29.440 --> 00:12:32.720 Bengals play ten games a year, great for them, it's 266 00:12:32.759 --> 00:12:34.639 great for the community when they play the games here 267 00:12:34.679 --> 00:12:37.840 and they come in great. But that's ten out of 268 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:40.600 three hundred and sixty five days. What's going on with 269 00:12:40.639 --> 00:12:43.240 the stadium the other three hundred and fifty five days? 270 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:46.200 Why does the county not control it the other three 271 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:48.879 hundred and fifty five days. We gave away the farm 272 00:12:49.320 --> 00:12:52.919 on that first lease, right, and so mine is simple. 273 00:12:53.039 --> 00:12:56.519 Let's go back and remember and remind everybody that the 274 00:12:56.879 --> 00:13:02.440 county owns the stadium. We call it pay Corps Bengal Stadium, 275 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:06.200 but it's the county. It's Hampling Counties Stadium. We build it, 276 00:13:06.279 --> 00:13:06.840 we own it. 277 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:09.039 And so I think we had to share the royalties 278 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:10.399 with the Brown family with the. 279 00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:11.159 Paid Corps naming. 280 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:14.639 We need to remember, you know whose it is, and 281 00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:17.919 you know there's nothing wrong with leasing something to a 282 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:18.720 private entity. 283 00:13:19.080 --> 00:13:19.519 We do that. 284 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:22.879 In many cases, government and private unities do work together. 285 00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:25.840 But the fact that we act as if we have 286 00:13:25.919 --> 00:13:27.879 no control. We can't say anything because they get to 287 00:13:27.919 --> 00:13:29.960 pick when the dates are that something comes in and 288 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:33.240 uses it. And so we miss all these opportunities because 289 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:37.639 we can't use a stadium because we effectively we gave 290 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:41.360 control away to the family. And I don't understand that. 291 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:44.200 I have to admit I'm I'm a little jaded by 292 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:47.600 that because I've said before without sounding wrong to a 293 00:13:47.639 --> 00:13:51.600 lot of people, but not one brick at the PNG 294 00:13:51.799 --> 00:13:54.639 Towers downtown was bought by the county. So I think 295 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:56.720 that we need to start to reconsider what is it 296 00:13:56.759 --> 00:14:00.320 we're actually doing here. And I think that this gets 297 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:03.360 into back if sports is always emotional, it is to fans. 298 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:04.360 I mean, let's be honest. 299 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:06.159 As a fan, there isn't a logic while we're a 300 00:14:06.159 --> 00:14:08.679 fan this this year, the Bengals are not giving us 301 00:14:08.679 --> 00:14:11.080 a reason to be a fan. Yet, why are people fans? 302 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:14.320 It's emotional, nothing wrong with that, but we have to 303 00:14:14.360 --> 00:14:17.039 stop for a moment in that emotion and set aside, lodge, 304 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:19.799 you know, step into logic and go Okay, let's look 305 00:14:19.840 --> 00:14:22.639 at this, Let's look at this reasonable, Let's look at 306 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:26.480 this honestly and say, Okay, we're leasing this to an 307 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:31.080 NFL team which is worth billions, and we get very 308 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:35.120 little in return percentage wise, What exactly is wrong with this? 309 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:38.679 Yeah, and moving away from the emotional angle of sports, 310 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:43.279 take emotion out of it, and consider any project where 311 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:45.919 you're asking the taxpayers to front the bill the money 312 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:48.039 and played back then it was what twenty five years 313 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:51.080 ago was four hundred and fifty million dollars, and that 314 00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:53.279 obviously today would be more like two billion or three 315 00:14:53.320 --> 00:14:55.639 billion the way they're building these stadiums these days. But 316 00:14:55.679 --> 00:14:57.559 if you took it outside of the realm of sports 317 00:14:57.879 --> 00:15:00.240 and just say, well, we're going to spend three billion 318 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:05.360 dollars in taxpayer money on any one facility that will 319 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:10.320 only be used ten times a year, and you would 320 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:12.240 be Everybody would look at you. You would act like 321 00:15:12.279 --> 00:15:15.360 you were just backcrap insane. We'll pause. Would be one 322 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:18.080 more back with Jonathan Pearson for kent Ellen County Commissioner. 323 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:20.200 It's a forty six right now, stay right here at 324 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:23.639 fifty five KRC DE talk Station, fifty five KRC dot 325 00:15:23.679 --> 00:15:34.279 Com eight at fifty five kr C the talk station Happy. 326 00:15:34.039 --> 00:15:50.639 Friday, Geezes, say. 327 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:52.639 It out loud, Joey. 328 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:56.360 In spite of the chaos, political division, insanity, s it 329 00:15:56.440 --> 00:15:58.600 can be a wonderful world, just depends on where you're looking. 330 00:15:59.159 --> 00:16:01.919 And that's an Bruice proved that with Matt Damaris earlier on. 331 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:03.960 We were going to have a wonderful time next Saturday. 332 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:05.840 Everybody's invited to join any of the one of the 333 00:16:05.840 --> 00:16:08.240 breweries we're going to be stopping off at, so make 334 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:09.879 sure you check it all out aty five care Sea 335 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:12.840 dot com. And in the meantime, we've got Jonathan Pearson 336 00:16:12.879 --> 00:16:16.120 in house talking Hamilton kind of issues. So we dealt 337 00:16:16.159 --> 00:16:18.279 sort of kind of with the pay Course stadium. The lease, 338 00:16:18.360 --> 00:16:22.240 which is I think right now being discussed and negotiated 339 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:24.000 with the current commissioner made up. 340 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:25.000 Yeah it is. 341 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:28.360 I mean, at least there is a level of understanding 342 00:16:28.360 --> 00:16:30.919 even in the current mix of like maybe we shouldn't 343 00:16:31.039 --> 00:16:32.159 be given the farm away. 344 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:38.879 Yeah, And I guess the least though that limits the 345 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:42.559 use and availability of the stadium to whatever conditions in 346 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:45.159 terms of Brown Family decides. Back to your point on 347 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:47.799 that giant facility only be used about ten times a year. 348 00:16:50.039 --> 00:16:56.000 It's the idea that it also requires these upgrades. It's like, 349 00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:59.919 keep it up with the Joneses. I mean, honestly, I know, 350 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:03.759 Riverfront Stadium wasn't the greatest place to sit. It was cold. 351 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:05.759 I was there for the Freezer Bowl. I left it 352 00:17:05.880 --> 00:17:09.319 halftime like a sane person should have. But you know 353 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:13.880 it worked. There was a football field, there were bathrooms, 354 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:15.839 not the nicest ones in the world, but you know 355 00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:20.799 what it functioned. This is a currently functioning stadium. I mean, 356 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:23.039 I'd seen the grand scheme of things. Twenty five years old. 357 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:25.599 Isn't that long. Can you imagine if we upgraded every 358 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:28.440 building after twenty five years and added all new amenities, 359 00:17:28.519 --> 00:17:31.799 literally every building, what the overall costs would be? And 360 00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:35.119 then you have to step back, as commissioner, is it 361 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:39.319 even really necessary? So I know the contract says it is, 362 00:17:40.160 --> 00:17:43.599 and the contract already says we as taxpayers have to 363 00:17:43.640 --> 00:17:46.319 pay for it at least a certain percentage, but there's 364 00:17:46.359 --> 00:17:49.359 no is it necessary component going on in there? 365 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:53.279 Well, I think a level of Again, this gets us 366 00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:55.599 back to the emotion. In sports, we get more caught 367 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:57.680 up in the emotion than we do logic and so 368 00:17:57.720 --> 00:17:59.519 we look at things saying it has to be pretty, 369 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:02.160 has to be this, it has to be that, And. 370 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:05.039 Does the average fan give a rip about how the 371 00:18:05.079 --> 00:18:06.079 locker room looks? 372 00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:08.519 Well, how many of us remember going to a football 373 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:11.559 game a deal at Old Knippart when you know, if 374 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:14.079 you tripped, you were four hundred steps down on the field, 375 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:15.480 if you were up at the top. 376 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:17.680 Especially if you were slinging that Schnopps bag. 377 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:19.880 You know, well, you know when they charge you a 378 00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:22.240 buck to get in the game and the quarter for beer. Yeah, 379 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:24.519 a lot of people had a hard time navigating steps. 380 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:26.279 I went there in the eighties. 381 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:28.000 So yes, I did too. That's right. 382 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:30.839 I'm laughing about it because how many of us sat 383 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:32.440 there and go, gosh, this game would be so much 384 00:18:32.519 --> 00:18:33.799 nicer if the stadium was nicer. 385 00:18:35.240 --> 00:18:36.119 Well, none of us thought that. 386 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:37.319 Thought it was fun. 387 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:40.200 It was. It was fun, And I think that's it's 388 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:40.759 the infamous. 389 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:43.160 You know, football is made to be played in mud football, 390 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:45.359 you know, that type of mentality and and a. 391 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:47.720 Sort of rug it outdoors. The attitude like if you 392 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:49.480 you if you go to the freezer ball you stick 393 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:51.480 it out, you're a real man, or you sucked it up. 394 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:53.440 In the name of the fans, and I was there 395 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:55.720 for the whole thing. So but I think that's the problem. 396 00:18:55.799 --> 00:18:59.240 We went past that nostalgic This is fun, you know. 397 00:18:59.319 --> 00:19:01.119 I feel the bite the weather, I feel the mud 398 00:19:01.119 --> 00:19:02.559 in my face type of thing too. 399 00:19:03.079 --> 00:19:05.680 Oh, this is a sanitized game. It's clean. We've got 400 00:19:05.720 --> 00:19:07.079 to have everything prim and proper. 401 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:09.359