WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.319 --> 00:00:10.080 Do you hear that the music. It is necessary for 2 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:14.240 the recording of sound to convert the sound waves to 3 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:18.480 corresponding changes in light. The sound waves produced by my 4 00:00:18.719 --> 00:00:22.879 voice are transmitted through the air to the microphone, where 5 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:26.760 these sound waves are converted to changes in an electric current. 6 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:30.280 These variations in the electric current are then amplified and 7 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:30.960 used to. 8 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:31.760 Control the light. 9 00:00:33.759 --> 00:00:37.719 This varying beam of light falling on the photoelectric cells 10 00:00:38.200 --> 00:00:42.320 produces variations in the electric current which are directly proportional 11 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:49.359 to the variations in the light themes the crack. As 12 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:52.920 the varying electrical current in the photoelectric cell is small, 13 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:57.320 a ventuum tube amplifier is required to increase it to 14 00:00:57.359 --> 00:01:01.880 the point where it will operate a loud speakers countrack. 15 00:01:17.079 --> 00:01:23.079 What is up everyone? Welcome to the Occult Rejects coming 16 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:26.680 at you this week with part two of the Oregons 17 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:31.439 and Consciousness that I had Leon and Teresa joined me 18 00:01:31.560 --> 00:01:35.719 in last week's episode. Uh so today we're going to 19 00:01:35.879 --> 00:01:38.560 be going over more of that. I think when we 20 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:41.599 kind of left it off last week, I did mention 21 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:45.000 that we're gonna get into the negative aspects of Oregon 22 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:49.200 and how have you said? And uh and the cloud busting. Sorry, 23 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:51.799 I had a brain forward for a second, so we 24 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:55.599 got back Leon and Teresa. Like I said earlier, to 25 00:01:55.640 --> 00:02:00.280 talk about that when it comes to Oregon. Teresa, you're 26 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:03.560 the co host. Would you like to let everybody know 27 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:05.560 what's up with you? In cases the first time they 28 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:07.560 ever came across you? And if this is the first 29 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:09.479 time you ever listened to this show, I highly suggest 30 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:11.560 to go back and listen to part one. That may 31 00:02:11.599 --> 00:02:14.560 help before you start listening to part two. But for 32 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:17.639 people who don't know who you are yet, which you know, 33 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:20.280 I find hard to believe, would you like to let 34 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:22.360 everybody know who you are and what your deal is 35 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:23.800 in that amazing podcast you have. 36 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:27.000 Sure? Well, thank you for having me back on the 37 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:29.680 Occult Rejects. I always love to co host this show 38 00:02:29.719 --> 00:02:34.080 with you. So yeah, I'm Teresa and I have another podcast, 39 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:37.840 also usually co hosted with you called The Spiritual Gangsters. 40 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:41.919 So it's a great time. Lots of interesting chats, interesting guests, 41 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:48.800 personal stories like transformational experiences, things like that. So check 42 00:02:48.840 --> 00:02:51.319 it out if you have not on all the major 43 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:53.840 podcast platforms, YouTube and Rumble. 44 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:58.039 Yes, very true. Definitely keep an eye out on the Rumble. 45 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:01.000 For that because we'll be going live more often on there, 46 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:05.240 so if you were not following us on Rumble, I 47 00:03:05.319 --> 00:03:09.759 highly suggest to do that. So there you go. And 48 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:11.719 I did want to mention you know you have an 49 00:03:11.759 --> 00:03:14.280 amazing producer for that show you have. The next time 50 00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:15.680 you talk to that person, let them know they do 51 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:16.240 a great job. 52 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:18.400 Great, Yeah, amazing. 53 00:03:18.719 --> 00:03:21.159 She has the best producer for Spiritual Gangster's great one. 54 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:26.719 Just buy yourself on the back. Thanks for all your. 55 00:03:26.719 --> 00:03:32.759 Deals not to our guests to have to do silly stuff. Leon, 56 00:03:33.479 --> 00:03:35.680 would you like to let everybody know like who you are, 57 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:38.520 what your deal is and plug anything that you want 58 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:39.840 people to find that you've done. 59 00:03:41.199 --> 00:03:45.039 Sure? Hi, Yeah, thanks for having me back for part two. 60 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:51.759 And yeah, I'm Leon Southgate. Have been an orgone energy 61 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:56.840 researcher for about twenty years and I come from a 62 00:03:57.080 --> 00:04:02.960 family of psychopheric person that I got my interest in 63 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:08.439 orgone and organomy and Wilhelm right for my father who 64 00:04:08.719 --> 00:04:14.039 had an interest in it, And yeah I did. I'm 65 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:18.959 an acupuncturist by trade, but really like to be a 66 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:22.120 full time researcher, so I do as much on the 67 00:04:22.120 --> 00:04:29.199 research as I can. And I did an academic study 68 00:04:29.279 --> 00:04:33.519 into acupuncture an or gone back in about two thousand, 69 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:40.879 which was based partly in the UK and partly well, 70 00:04:40.920 --> 00:04:47.040 I did the experimental study in the US. And that's 71 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:53.879 about me in a nutshell and my main I'm needing 72 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:56.959 to get a new website up, but my blog is 73 00:04:57.000 --> 00:05:01.959 my main portal at the moment, which is Leonsouthgate dot 74 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:07.519 blogspot dot com. So all my links are there at 75 00:05:07.519 --> 00:05:07.920 the moment. 76 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:12.160 Yeah you have. I have about I think five links 77 00:05:12.199 --> 00:05:15.639 in there now for you. So, yeah, you have Leon's, 78 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:19.319 I have your Twitter, I have your psych psych orgon site, 79 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:22.720 Leon Southgate, his blog spot, his YouTube, and a web archive. 80 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:25.759 I have all the links in the bottom now, so 81 00:05:25.959 --> 00:05:27.839 definitely check those out after the show if you found 82 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:28.759 this interesting. 83 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:33.920 Oh super yeah, cycle orgones the main place for for 84 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:42.240 my main papers. It's it's probably the main at the 85 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:49.360 main orgone journal to publish sort of biophysical stuff. So 86 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:55.680 all my recent stuff is there, all right, very well, 87 00:05:55.279 --> 00:05:59.959 well the longer the longer articles, HM. 88 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:05.399 Very good. So I guess, like you know, honestly, I'm 89 00:06:05.399 --> 00:06:06.560 just gonna put it this way. If you don't know 90 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:09.000 what the hell orgone is, go back to the first episode. 91 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:11.199 I don't know if I really want to, you know, 92 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:14.439 go over all that for the first time minutes to 93 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:17.720 catch people up. But I know, you know, you were 94 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:20.560 going to go into cloud busting or the negative aspects 95 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:23.519 of orgone. Since this is your topic and I don't 96 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:26.040 know anything really about it, I guess, however, you want 97 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:28.319 to present that wherever you want to start. I know 98 00:06:28.360 --> 00:06:30.399 you say they both kind of go hand in hand, 99 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:33.319 So I guess start the best way you can explain 100 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:35.639 that to the listeners. 101 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:40.560 Sure, well, I'll start with splitting orgone into free because 102 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:46.279 orgone is a it's it's just another word for life 103 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:53.480 force or chi or prano. And the difference I guess 104 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:58.319 with Rich was he he documented how that life force 105 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:05.240 can be seen scientifically in a lot of different areas 106 00:07:05.319 --> 00:07:11.040 like Tesla documented life force how it interacts with electricity, 107 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:17.439 and mesmer and documented life force how it interacts with 108 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:23.560 with the mind, and there's other people documented how it 109 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:27.360 interacts with biology, but Reich was the only one who 110 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:33.199 really documented how it interacts in in every field pretty much, 111 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:38.639 and that that's one of the reasons I find him 112 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:45.319 so compelling that the this this life force can be 113 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:50.000 broken down into free free types. Most people think it. 114 00:07:50.120 --> 00:07:55.040 There's only two types, like positive orgone and negative orgone, 115 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:59.879 which sometimes it gets the abbreviation door d O R 116 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:08.319 for deadly orgone, and some occasionally people are called the 117 00:08:08.480 --> 00:08:13.920 positive side of it positive orgone, but generally just orgone. 118 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:18.920 But the positive side of orgones splits into two. There's 119 00:08:19.240 --> 00:08:25.879 energized orgone, which is called urn or where after Reich's 120 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:34.039 experiments with orgone and nuclear materials, because there's a secret 121 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:38.840 about nuclear materials. They they but there's two reasons they 122 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:43.320 suppress it. There's one of the reasons is that it 123 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:48.159 has such a an energizing effect on life force, so 124 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:55.879 that the that you can energize life force into a positive, 125 00:08:57.559 --> 00:09:02.960 very vibrant state. And so orgn or I use as 126 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:07.159 a kind of catsual term for energized or going. So 127 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:11.200 you so you've got all going in its sleepy state 128 00:09:11.639 --> 00:09:17.559 or just quiescent state in nature and just gently flowing. 129 00:09:19.759 --> 00:09:20.919 That's a good way to put it. 130 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:26.000 Yeah, it's a lovely word. And then you've got energized 131 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:30.559 or going or or or, which is where free energy 132 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:36.600 comes in and and where sort of because when all 133 00:09:36.639 --> 00:09:43.720 going gets very excited, it creates electrical particles charged particles 134 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:46.039 and and then you. 135 00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:47.399 Would you say, real quick, I just ask, would you 136 00:09:47.399 --> 00:09:49.200 say humans do that themselves in general? 137 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:49.919 Yeah? 138 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:53.279 Yeah, Could that be the consciousness that's doing that. 139 00:09:54.519 --> 00:09:59.360 Yeah, yeah, consciousness can can excite or going fields too, 140 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:08.799 and that Yuri Geller used to be able to excite 141 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:14.960 Geiger counters, and his his team thought that it was 142 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:20.840 just Uri Gella's mind interacting with the mechanism of the device. 143 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:26.240 But I think it's because Uri Gella could create ornor 144 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:33.000 with his body or his mind. So the the I 145 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:36.960 found it in some obscure book on pyramids from the 146 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:42.679 seventies or eighties, but they they definitely noted an effect 147 00:10:42.720 --> 00:10:47.120 on Geiger counters that Uri Gella had. 148 00:10:47.679 --> 00:10:50.080 Do you think like EMF detectors could pick stuff up 149 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:50.320 like that? 150 00:10:51.879 --> 00:10:57.360 Yeah, the I mean the whole kind of paranormal field. 151 00:10:57.440 --> 00:11:03.120 They're they're really missing a very useful research tool in 152 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:09.960 the guige counter, because wherever you get paranormal phenomena, you 153 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:16.440 get raised particles and it's actually from the urn or 154 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:21.600 really rather than the electrical effects in paranormal stuff is 155 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:26.879 more aside effect that the main energy behind paranormal phenomena, 156 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:29.120 I believe it is oral. 157 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:31.919 Do you think that has to deal with like sometimes 158 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:33.799 when they show I'm sorry to be like going off 159 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:35.879 on this now, but do you think that could be 160 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:39.120 like when they show like, oh, the camera just died 161 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:41.639 or this just died, do you think that could be 162 00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:45.240 what's doing it? Yeah, instead of like this ghost sucking 163 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:46.840 the life out of that. So it could tell Zach 164 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:47.799 to go fuck off. 165 00:11:47.919 --> 00:11:57.000 Yeah, yeah, definitely, because the the because the the ghost 166 00:11:57.120 --> 00:12:01.840 is maybe in a paranormal dimensional realm, and that has 167 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:06.039 a lot of is directing life energy or life force, 168 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:12.799 life force and and electrical energies that are kind of antagonistic. 169 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:18.759 So an elect a life force field can take over 170 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:25.519 an electrical field. Like I've got a friend who's kind 171 00:12:25.519 --> 00:12:29.679 of he's not skeptical, but he he's from a kind 172 00:12:29.720 --> 00:12:36.120 of traditional traditional background and he doesn't tend tend to 173 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:39.759 believe in spiritual stuff. And he got a text from 174 00:12:39.799 --> 00:12:43.120 his mum who passed away, but like it is, his 175 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:48.120 mum actually took over his phone, the whole, the whole, 176 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:54.919 the whole, the whole screen and sent him a message. Uh, 177 00:12:55.320 --> 00:13:02.039 and the the well, it's a bit complicated to break 178 00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:02.960 it all down, but. 179 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:08.759 Just fletuff right, you know, yeah, Well, basically, poor goinges 180 00:13:10.039 --> 00:13:15.399 is a pre atomic energy, like because you've got before particles, 181 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:19.720 and electricity is a post atomic energy, so. 182 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:25.639 The they kind of act antagonistic. You can get one 183 00:13:25.720 --> 00:13:30.679 from the other like you can use you can use 184 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:35.879 post atomic energies to gently build up pre atomic energies, 185 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:41.039 like in electro agriculture where you put electricity around plants 186 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:47.759 and it can work the other way, where a pre 187 00:13:47.879 --> 00:13:53.799 atomic field can take over an electrical field, like like 188 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:58.159 my friend with his message from with his text message 189 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:04.320 from from the beyond. But yeah, but to go back 190 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:09.639 to that triad, you've got the the the quiet natural, 191 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:17.600 relaxed orgone, You've got ourn or the excited orgone, and 192 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:22.080 then you've got the deadly orgone or door, which is 193 00:14:23.919 --> 00:14:28.440 either the excited orgone or the quiescent orgon that's dyed 194 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:35.279 and become stuck and stagnant, so that there's different the 195 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:42.000 normal organes usually blue or those types of colors, and 196 00:14:42.120 --> 00:14:49.720 then energized orgone can be purply red, very sort of 197 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:55.559 any strong vibrant colors, and door or deadly organes usually 198 00:14:55.600 --> 00:15:06.159 brownie black, sort of stagnant type colors. And the asking 199 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:14.120 how about cloudbusters is very connected to the door, so 200 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:18.399 that it was because of Door that Right discovered cloud busting, 201 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:27.039 so that the two are very interconnected. Actually there is 202 00:15:27.080 --> 00:15:30.559 connected to ron ore as well, but that's another story 203 00:15:30.600 --> 00:15:37.679 a bit later on. Yeah, so do you want to 204 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:39.200 go to cloud busting? 205 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:41.559 Yeah, I just have one question. 206 00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:47.679 So, how would you measure the color of the organ 207 00:15:47.759 --> 00:15:49.120 and like, how do you determine that? 208 00:15:51.039 --> 00:15:56.440 Mostly visually because when Right did the ron or experiment 209 00:15:56.679 --> 00:16:04.000 in nineteen fifty one, roughly he he could see very 210 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:08.159 strong colors coming out of the room. And sometimes when 211 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:13.080 you when you see a very strong orgone environment, you 212 00:16:13.159 --> 00:16:16.080 can see like a blue haze over the mountains. 213 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:21.120 You know, it's weird. I think Alistair Crowley supposedly claims 214 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:23.360 when he did a ritual inside the Pyramids, the room 215 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:25.799 blue blue glow blue. 216 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:31.399 Yeah, yeah, that that wouldn't surprise me at all, and 217 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:35.519 that and that there's a kind of connection between Alistair 218 00:16:35.559 --> 00:16:40.000 Crowley and organomy. It's a bit of a that there 219 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:46.600 there was a guy called Israel Regarde. 220 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:48.799 Oh yeah, it was his buddy though. 221 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:55.440 Yeah, but yeah, it's not it's not an area I 222 00:16:55.480 --> 00:17:02.480 know a lot about. But but plutonium two blows blue 223 00:17:02.840 --> 00:17:05.640 before it explodes. 224 00:17:06.440 --> 00:17:08.599 Is that was that? Wasn't wait, that wasn't using back 225 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:12.640 to the future, was it? It might be, you know, 226 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:15.559 wasn't that the stuff that he robs from the other 227 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:17.079 guys that tried to kill him in the first one. 228 00:17:19.480 --> 00:17:22.440 It could well be there. I mean, they put all 229 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:24.480 sorts of references. 230 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:27.359 In because of the reason I'm bringing that up is 231 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:29.480 because I have been like thinking about covering back to 232 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:32.599 the future, so like that that did remind me of it. 233 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:34.759 But like that just real quick, you know the reason 234 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:37.559 why I even questioned that movie in itself. You know, 235 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:40.440 I've explained before, like if magic is actually kind of 236 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:43.240 going back into the past and spirit coming back to 237 00:17:43.319 --> 00:17:45.559 your body, technically would be going back to the future 238 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:49.079 from when you were in spirit. Like if I if 239 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:52.119 I'm going back into the past and becoming spirit, for 240 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:53.880 me to go back to my body, I technically have 241 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:54.960 to go back to the future. Now. 242 00:17:56.119 --> 00:18:03.480 Yeah, I've heard people say that you could, Yeah, you 243 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:09.559 could get reincarnated into past historical epochs, which is something 244 00:18:09.559 --> 00:18:14.559 I find hard to get my head round. But time 245 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:17.599 is a very fluid, fluid thing. 246 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:23.480 It's all right, So the colors, I'm sorry, I totally 247 00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:24.319 got you, totally got you. 248 00:18:24.319 --> 00:18:26.880 Well for the colors, like, lean, do you need an 249 00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:29.519 instrument to observe that with your naked eye? 250 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:35.680 Just with your naked eye. I mean that the the 251 00:18:35.720 --> 00:18:39.279 main measurements in organomy, in the study of all going 252 00:18:39.359 --> 00:18:45.720 in the past have been temperature, Geiger counters and visual 253 00:18:46.200 --> 00:18:50.079 just sensory information. 254 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:51.720 And what colors? Did you say? 255 00:18:51.759 --> 00:18:56.720 Again, I'm sorry, blue is the main color for all? 256 00:18:56.759 --> 00:18:58.279 In fact, I've. 257 00:18:58.200 --> 00:19:00.519 Just like, I'm just wondering, like, why do we think 258 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:01.160 the sky is blue? 259 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:05.839 Yeah, that's why Reich thought the sky was blue, not 260 00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:10.279 because of particular sort of light diffraction qualities, but actually 261 00:19:10.680 --> 00:19:15.920 because the orgon is blue, the same with the ocean. 262 00:19:16.680 --> 00:19:21.920 And that was one of the observations with how Wright 263 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:25.839 discovered or going in the first place, was he he 264 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:31.319 was looking down the microscope at material that he had 265 00:19:31.880 --> 00:19:37.799 heated in water, sand and food, and one of there 266 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:41.279 was a tiny little vesicle which he called a bion 267 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:47.000 about smaller than a bacteria, but larger than viruses about 268 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:56.440 or or whatever those entities are, and the like, about 269 00:19:56.480 --> 00:20:03.119 the size of half a dozen what's the term they 270 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:11.599 use in terrain theorya uh uh exosomes? Yeah, yeah, maybe 271 00:20:11.640 --> 00:20:17.839 half a dozen exosomes in size or or a quarter 272 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:21.599 of a bacteria and that these tiny little vesicles glowed blue. 273 00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:25.880 And so that was that was one of the first 274 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:32.200 observations in organoermy and it gave right conjuncti vitis in 275 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:41.039 his microscope by the the especially the sand packet bions 276 00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:45.839 or mm hm or what right called the sappa bions 277 00:20:46.200 --> 00:20:49.559 because I think because they've been charged by the sun 278 00:20:49.720 --> 00:20:55.240 for centuries on a beach where when when they were 279 00:20:55.279 --> 00:21:02.519 accidentally cooked, they turned into very strong bions and the 280 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:07.640 blue they let off a blue orgone blue energy glow, 281 00:21:08.839 --> 00:21:12.079 and that was the beginning of the whole process of 282 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:18.000 discovering or goone. That would have been in the nineteen thirties, 283 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:24.400 I think early nineteen thirties in Europe, well maybe even before. 284 00:21:24.680 --> 00:21:26.640 It's making me think about the blue table on twin 285 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:27.440 peaks now. 286 00:21:29.880 --> 00:21:32.119 Well, I was thinking of like the northern lights. I'm like, 287 00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:36.480 I wonder if that's a certain type of wargone, you know, 288 00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:37.920 that's why we see it green. 289 00:21:38.079 --> 00:21:39.759 I was wondering if that's like, you know, that's why 290 00:21:39.799 --> 00:21:42.680 I had as before, like why you know what colors? 291 00:21:43.039 --> 00:21:44.759 Because I was thinking you said more than blue. I 292 00:21:44.759 --> 00:21:46.960 don't know why, because I was even thinking like, is 293 00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:48.799 that why sometimes, like you know, in the mornings, we 294 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:51.799 might see like the scarlet sky, you know, instead of 295 00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:53.480 the blue. I was like, could i'd just be changes 296 00:21:53.519 --> 00:21:54.920 in the world, in the atmosphere. 297 00:21:56.559 --> 00:22:01.839 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it could be blues the base color. 298 00:22:02.519 --> 00:22:07.400 I think that's partly why some companies that they'll if 299 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:11.160 like I think b m W has their their their 300 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:16.519 top range is the blue series. And I think that's 301 00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:21.920 because because they know that blues the highest color in 302 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:28.960 terms of of of this dimensional or reality. 303 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:32.839 Multi people's favorite color too, right. 304 00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:37.200 Yeah, yeah, it's still mine as all. 305 00:22:39.359 --> 00:22:47.279 Yeah. H that's interesting. Did you have any other questions through? 306 00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:49.359 So that was a good one. So like you you 307 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:53.119 could just see the colors, you know, by just by 308 00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:56.079 saying now, i' I'm assuming does the color have to 309 00:22:56.119 --> 00:22:58.039 do with a vibrational rate itself to. 310 00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:04.599 I can't so I don't think anybody has ever tested 311 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:12.759 the vibrational rates of orgon. I mean sometimes I I've 312 00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:19.839 picked up that there's a device called blue Shield that 313 00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:25.200 that supposedly gives out a a subtle energy field that 314 00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:31.599 helps people with electro sensitivity and I used an orgone 315 00:23:31.720 --> 00:23:36.440 meter on on the blue shield device, and I if I, 316 00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:41.079 if I set the orgone meter to its most sensitive setting, 317 00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:44.480 I could pick up a frequency from the from the 318 00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:50.759 blue shield device. But it was very, very subtle. But 319 00:23:51.079 --> 00:23:55.920 the Russians will have investigated that because they they call 320 00:23:59.240 --> 00:24:03.799 for their name, are all going as torsion fields. And 321 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:08.599 the Soviets were aware of all going and kept close 322 00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:13.880 close track of it from the nineteen forties that they 323 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:18.599 ordered all of Reich's books and that they had all 324 00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:24.839 going accumulators in the Soviet Union, and then that they 325 00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:32.200 had some sophisticated devices for measuring frequency, and so that 326 00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:44.640 I'm sure there'll be sophisticated frequency devices in Russia. As 327 00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:50.440 far as I know. There's not much in the in 328 00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:56.519 the Western literature on frequency and orgon, so that that's 329 00:24:56.599 --> 00:24:59.039 a whole area to be explored. 330 00:24:59.079 --> 00:25:03.240 I think sounds like actually start of one more question, sorry, 331 00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:06.799 before you move on to cloud busting lean. Do you 332 00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:09.000 know if there are places in the world where there's 333 00:25:09.079 --> 00:25:11.880 more of the or in or like the energized orgone 334 00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:16.119 and conversely like more places with the door negative. 335 00:25:16.920 --> 00:25:23.200 Yeah. I was just reading an old journal by a 336 00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:29.640 guy called Jeremy Eden this week, and he was did 337 00:25:29.640 --> 00:25:34.160 a lot of cloud busting back in the late seventies 338 00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:39.519 early eighties, and some of his descriptions of America in 339 00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:43.319 the late seventies, the door problem was much worse than 340 00:25:43.359 --> 00:25:55.519 it is now. And any environment, particularly deserts, if an 341 00:25:55.640 --> 00:26:01.200 environment is dying and the energy isn't moving, then that 342 00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:02.920 that's a kind of door environment. 343 00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:05.519 Oh interesting, and. 344 00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:10.799 An environment where the energy is sparkling and you can 345 00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:15.119 see things with a lot of clarity, like I've I've 346 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:22.039 noticed when when I've done some uh work with cloud 347 00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:28.759 busting myself or an energized form of cloud busting, that 348 00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:33.200 the environment sparkles. More So, if there's a lack of 349 00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:39.119 sparkling the environment and you can't see very far and 350 00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:43.680 the trees are drooping and they're the kind of brown 351 00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:50.000 brownness to the to the vegetation and that lack of clarity, 352 00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:55.000 then that that would be a doorish environment. Or it's 353 00:26:55.039 --> 00:27:02.119 a bit like smog. Smog had borderline lines with with 354 00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:07.839 with door because some of what is called smog is 355 00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:16.400 actually door. It's not just particulate, it's actually a kind 356 00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:20.720 of stuck energy in terms of where it is in 357 00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:24.720 the world. It can vary a lot because that there's 358 00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:31.200 desert regions where it's been really dorish. I mean probably 359 00:27:31.240 --> 00:27:34.200 if you wanted to find a really dorish environment now, 360 00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:40.799 perhaps over like Beijing in the summer, or Mexico City 361 00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:48.960 somewhere like that, and a very sparkling or or gone 362 00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:57.440 natural orgone environment perhaps sort of somewhere in South America 363 00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:05.480 or parts of Europe, Croatia or Switzerland, and then an 364 00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:12.559 urn or environment. So sometimes oign or environments look very 365 00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:18.480 almost hard, that there's like a blue hard look to 366 00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:30.960 the sky, like everything's overcharged. Sometimes after uh, after supposed 367 00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:34.000 nuclear tests. I don't know that it has been reported 368 00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:37.240 that the sky has had that very light urn or 369 00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:46.640 look in of like hard, super glassy, blue, cloudless kind 370 00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:52.920 of look. And I've seen that with when when you 371 00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:58.720 turn a cloudbuster into a an energized cloudbuster, right called 372 00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:01.960 it a space gun, and it works a bit differently 373 00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:05.480 to a cloudbuster, I think, but that there sometimes you 374 00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:12.599 get a very like a crystally sparkly look to the sky. 375 00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:17.240 So there is quite a difference. And back in the seventies, 376 00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:21.839 I think a lot of environments were really dorish. But 377 00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:30.440 I think perhaps a combination of people's consciousness and people's 378 00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:32.480 work on the ground. There was quite a lot of 379 00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:38.759 cloudbusting going on in places around the world that it 380 00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:45.039 certainly seems to be less boorish now that compared to 381 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:47.160 the reports have read from the seventies. 382 00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:57.119 So yeah, something obviously right. You're saying, what's that? Sorry, 383 00:29:57.279 --> 00:29:59.319 So something has definitely changed in that time. 384 00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:02.480 Yeah, yeah, I think so. Mm hmm. 385 00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:05.079 I wonder if five G has anything to do with 386 00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:10.240 that particles, you know, like in the atmosphere. 387 00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:16.720 Yeah, yeah, five G are definitely upset. The upset the 388 00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:23.240 orgone field because the the the that would be a 389 00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:28.000 very strong post atomic energy field, and that they're the 390 00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:33.960 post atomic and pre atomic fields are quite antagonistic. That 391 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:37.119 that you get you get one from the other, but 392 00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:42.200 the two naturally fight. It's it's like putting a tiger 393 00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:48.240 and a sheep in a cage. They don't naturally get on. 394 00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:55.400 So that that's why, like I've noticed, like teenagers, they 395 00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:59.599 don't believe you when you when you say that the 396 00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:04.160 elect cool fields aren't good for them. But I know 397 00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:10.440 that they'll hold a phone all day in their hand 398 00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:13.279 or beyond Wi Fi on a laptop all day, and 399 00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:15.480 at the end of the day they feel really anxious 400 00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:22.759 and like I'll say, well, why don't you try hard 401 00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:26.920