Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Giant BombCast, episode nine hundred and thirteen. I
Speaker 2: am your host today, Mike min Naughty, and joining me
Speaker 2: is a cast of the scarous games media people out there,
Speaker 2: including No, that's not a leather face, that's just his
Speaker 2: normal face.
Speaker 1: It's the Ohio gruff saw massacre. Oh Captain of the
Speaker 1: ship Jeff Grubb, b I have a normal human face.
Speaker 1: I swear I saw a house get t peed this morning,
Speaker 1: and I thought that was I'm glad we still do that.
Speaker 1: Good job, kids. And of course he has to be
Speaker 1: associated with Jason Vorhees because.
Speaker 2: He wears a hockey mask. That's where I went to
Speaker 2: Bachlar the thirteenth, Jeff Baklar.
Speaker 3: That's right, there have been twelve before me. I am
Speaker 3: the thirteenth. Backlaar, what's up, Mike MANAUGHTI it's good to
Speaker 3: see your smiling face.
Speaker 1: It's good to be here. It's good to be awake.
Speaker 2: You don't want to fall asleep because that's when Dan
Speaker 2: Rikert will get you. Everybody, and we all remember the
Speaker 2: dame of that movie, that Nightmare on Dan Street.
Speaker 1: Dad Rikert.
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm failure. I've never seen any nightmar
Speaker 4: on ELM Street. And I've never tpeed a house, and
Speaker 4: I feel like, personally, I really should have tepeed out.
Speaker 4: I think my fear of getting in trouble yeah, Birley, Yeah,
Speaker 4: like I like causing trouble that I can't get in
Speaker 4: trouble for you know what I mean? Like not, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't I abide by the law. I'm a scamp.
Speaker 4: I'm not a criminal.
Speaker 3: You're you're a nark, sure do you?
Speaker 1: Anyways? I would seen those movies. You's got a weird
Speaker 1: white face and a knife. You know what that mask is, right,
Speaker 1: It's a It's a Shatner mask. It's a and they
Speaker 1: just like guided or bleached it or something.
Speaker 5: Now, hang on, grub. I'm curious to see if Mike
Speaker 5: is implied that I have a weird white face and
Speaker 5: a knife. Here.
Speaker 1: Oh was he introducing you with that? That's weird. That's
Speaker 1: a weird say about a coworker. Yeah, and he'll suck
Speaker 1: your blood. It's count turf a shot shot macdow.
Speaker 5: You see, I wasn't gonna give you ship if you
Speaker 5: didn't like read the intro as I have a highlight
Speaker 5: and bolded. I swear to god, Mike, if you miss
Speaker 5: a single thing on there, I am just gonna roast
Speaker 5: you for the rest of the week.
Speaker 1: Here I open up this dock. There it is.
Speaker 4: There's an energy from Mike today that feels like you
Speaker 4: just had like nitrous earlier in the day, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, like some sort of head injury. Yeah, did
Speaker 1: you wake up? I woke up at eleven, of course,
Speaker 1: and of course pretty good for once, which is a shock. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's actually felt relatively rested.
Speaker 4: I let me go to bed.
Speaker 2: I fell asleep at about three or four probably PM.
Speaker 1: Well I can relate. Yeah, so I feel pretty good. Look,
Speaker 1: look I got nothing to do. Look, you guys need
Speaker 1: me at noon today, and here I am right, he's look,
Speaker 1: no complaints, We can't say anything, seemingly heart.
Speaker 3: Out, Greg Miller, no one's got anything on mister up
Speaker 3: at noon.
Speaker 1: Mike Holler is.
Speaker 4: Not getting up at noon anymore.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, I'm saying that, yeah, saying.
Speaker 2: Nothing I think important happens in the morning. And I
Speaker 2: don't need to be a wake for any of that.
Speaker 1: That's for sure. That's just true.
Speaker 2: And I got you know, I had so much Pokeymans
Speaker 2: to play too. Every night it's always something I want
Speaker 2: to play on my switch for not just like you know,
Speaker 2: cute little three minutes before I fall asleep, but for hours,
Speaker 2: and I just do it. I just sit their bed
Speaker 2: and I just keep playing. Then you look up and
Speaker 2: it's five am. You're like, that's okay. I'll just you know,
Speaker 2: get up an hour before whatever. I gotta do a
Speaker 2: giant bomb, and it's okay.
Speaker 1: It works out.
Speaker 4: If it's going to be hours of gameplay, why are
Speaker 4: you doing it in bed instead of like uncomfortable couch
Speaker 4: where you're sitting properly in.
Speaker 1: Oh, bed, it's way more comfortable. I'm comfortable.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Oh I never played games in bed.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I think these days probably eighty percent of my
Speaker 1: gaming happens in bed. Wow, that's a crazy number. Now, Actually,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be associated with him anymore, no,
Speaker 1: are you? It's a lot. It's like it's like one
Speaker 1: of those famous people that gets too famous. Then you
Speaker 1: just hear like they've been in bed for seven years,
Speaker 1: Like that's what Howard hughes, Marlon Brando or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Aviator Mike Manati edition respect to Mike, and Mike's
Speaker 4: getting Comfi's living his best life. You can't be good
Speaker 4: like posturely and skeletonly.
Speaker 1: That can't be good. Sure, it's just already kind of shot.
Speaker 1: Let's be on it. And I don't know if like
Speaker 1: gaming in a chair is doing much for you. Maybe
Speaker 1: if you're Dan, if you're talking about like you play
Speaker 1: games standing up, then maybe we can have a conversation.
Speaker 4: No, I mean, you get a good ergonomic chair. Even
Speaker 4: just a couch has to be better than a bed.
Speaker 4: I don't think it has to be better. No, really yeah, really,
Speaker 4: it's all just sitting down. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I do probably have to get like a new mattress
Speaker 1: eventually though. Beca's just kind of sitting in one spot,
Speaker 1: putting all your weight, you know, via butt on the
Speaker 1: same spot in your mattress for years. You get a
Speaker 1: little bit of a difficult rotated rotated it once. You
Speaker 1: can really only do it once the mattress. It could
Speaker 1: turn it right, It's.
Speaker 3: Get you can't can't flip every math already.
Speaker 4: You're sitting on your bed.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm sitting sometimes I'm like leaning against the way
Speaker 1: he's going into that bed butt first, like the most
Speaker 1: of the weight is going.
Speaker 4: Through the into the bed, which I guess I was
Speaker 4: picturing you laying like propped up on a couple of pills.
Speaker 1: That's that's actually not super comfortable to me. I could
Speaker 1: do a little bit of.
Speaker 2: That, but my arms will get tired eventually just laying
Speaker 2: up and doing this for a while.
Speaker 3: You're describing a very what I believe to be a
Speaker 3: very uncomfortable lifestyle. I feel like the la couches and
Speaker 3: lazy boys.
Speaker 1: Like I'm with Mike mostly on this because I'm just
Speaker 1: in general never comfortable, So like, what's the different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think I've been comfortable in like fifteen years.
Speaker 2: So I have a little like sad about how little
Speaker 2: I use my living room. It's my least used room
Speaker 2: in my house. I have not played a video game
Speaker 2: on my couch on my TV in like months.
Speaker 3: I think you guys are just out of the comfort zone.
Speaker 3: Like there's been fabulous. I enjoy sitting the recliner. After
Speaker 3: sitting in the recliner, I almost stand up and it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: that was a bad choice that like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: You get it.
Speaker 4: Gave one of those recliners with the lumbar support thing
Speaker 4: where it's like you can have control and it can
Speaker 4: like put you out there, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's a reason that they need lumbar support.
Speaker 1: It's because sitting these things is not actually good for you.
Speaker 4: That is when I felt the worst. Is like during
Speaker 4: the pandemic and I was like doing everything from that recliner.
Speaker 4: I was working from the recliner when I first came
Speaker 4: back to Giant Bomb, always sitting, and that's when my
Speaker 4: next started getting sucked up. My back and all that
Speaker 4: stuff like that is no good.
Speaker 1: I I bet I play games on the toilet more
Speaker 1: than any of you. I think that that I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna no, I don't play Gamelet you can have that
Speaker 1: yeah that falls asleep, you have the healthiest game. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's unhealthy other than when my legs fall
Speaker 1: asleep and it hurts a lot. Okay, so maybe it's unhealthy.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: You know what's helping me in the living room is
Speaker 2: only when I get the Christmas tree in there, then
Speaker 2: I'm gonna want to be in that room a bunch.
Speaker 2: That's when I finally played Ghosts of Yo Tai or Yotay.
Speaker 2: Sorry every time I say it wrong, and then I
Speaker 2: double gets.
Speaker 4: You should make a home gym and just fill it
Speaker 4: with Christmas trees at this point, light little train go
Speaker 4: around it like just making mom a's hell, oh.
Speaker 1: I do have a start. Took the next generation train
Speaker 1: that I got for Christmas last year.
Speaker 4: You really jacked mikey Christmas room playing Pokey BoNT like
Speaker 4: Chad saying. She also was playing Pokemon in bed last night.
Speaker 4: So you got that Kayla lifestyle going on?
Speaker 2: There we go, Yeah, seeing it's that Klas healthy right, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean she she also loves McDonald's and stuff like
Speaker 4: I do, but she she's been at she plays volleyball
Speaker 4: every week and everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh that's fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I went to an apple orchard this weekend, Mike,
Speaker 4: and I thought of you a lot.
Speaker 1: Don't think of me real quick, Mike, forget that he
Speaker 1: was hosting the show there and that he just woke
Speaker 1: up to see how. I know it's bad podcasting, but
Speaker 1: I find it.
Speaker 3: Along the routine of most hosts who just roll out
Speaker 3: of bed and get on the stage.
Speaker 1: And they felt great, I go fantastic the rest of
Speaker 1: us do, but all right, go yeah it was did
Speaker 1: you throw up? I would have? Mike. I thought about you.
Speaker 4: The whole time, because not only are you just surrounded
Speaker 4: by like five hundred trees covered in hundreds of apples each.
Speaker 4: They're also you forget the part where they're all over
Speaker 4: the ground too, like every other for you about that
Speaker 4: you were like crunching apples underfoot like every step you take.
Speaker 3: Again, not to exploit your uh you know, atypical kind
Speaker 3: of like.
Speaker 1: Uh um, let's do it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, mont so so can you?
Speaker 1: So you you can't go? You can't go? Or no,
Speaker 1: I will go to the apple orchard. God, because if if,
Speaker 1: if the apples weren't just saying put in the trees maybe,
Speaker 1: but it is all the ground walk around and start
Speaker 1: jumping up a buttole yeah, you.
Speaker 5: Know India Jones or he like looks in the pace
Speaker 5: like snakes.
Speaker 4: Trying to figure this out with Mike. So, Mike, I've
Speaker 4: heard things that you are very averse to. Would you
Speaker 4: rather go to an apple orchard with me and taste
Speaker 4: test every type of apple for like hours? Or go
Speaker 4: skydiving with me?
Speaker 6: Oh my god, there's an option of like, well, I
Speaker 6: could jump out of a plane to avoid the apples.
Speaker 1: I probably skydive.
Speaker 4: Apples and jumping out of a plane.
Speaker 1: Apparently, I'm surprised.
Speaker 3: But that's honestly such an indictment, right, like that is
Speaker 3: if that's not evident of how true and real true? Ye?
Speaker 1: Like, oh god, that's why I feel bad.
Speaker 4: Do you remember I was planning a bit where it
Speaker 4: was like an SGF or a Game Awards a few
Speaker 4: years ago. I almost had a Kenney Omega is almost
Speaker 4: gonna swing by, but he couldn't make it schedule wise,
Speaker 4: And I was like, Mike, can you Omega is your
Speaker 4: favorite wrestler? Can we do a bit where Kenny Omega
Speaker 4: like brings in a fruit platter for you? And He's like, no,
Speaker 4: absolutely not. That's when I realized how real it was.
Speaker 2: He's like, we can't bit this, yeah, just like you
Speaker 2: can't take bits and bites out of apples because there gross. Uh,
Speaker 2: we got a little housekeeping to do here. Uh, Jeffery,
Speaker 2: you are you good to talk about some of this?
Speaker 2: Chuck wants us to talk about some stuff with the
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Speaker 1: Very exciting. Yeah, the people out there that are we
Speaker 1: doing that work would just love to see even more
Speaker 1: people joining because it would just kind of reinforce the
Speaker 1: work that they've done. So thanks everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lots of stuff coming together. I mean, this is
Speaker 2: our last show before we do the bombas on.
Speaker 1: Right, and that's crazy. So that's that's this weekend.
Speaker 4: Some plans have really been coming together. We might have
Speaker 4: had a two and a half hour meeting yesterday where
Speaker 4: we already had to run a show set up, and
Speaker 4: then we have all sorts of incentives and segments and
Speaker 4: stuff that is very fun, greb, Can we tell them
Speaker 4: about the Can we tell them about the thing we
Speaker 4: were talking about the shuffle?
Speaker 1: I think people start thinking about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah I do too.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we were talking Dan about a bunch of
Speaker 1: fun ideas for this, and we're going back and forth,
Speaker 1: and I think at one moment you mentioned like Bishawk
Speaker 1: and the Shuffler, that that Bishok can do at Bishok
Speaker 1: as an emulator. Basically, the idea is at two am, Look,
Speaker 1: we play a lot of bad games on this site.
Speaker 1: I'm looking for people's most out there games, games that
Speaker 1: are an assault on the senses. And if you want to,
Speaker 1: you can submit this and make us play it by
Speaker 1: We're gonna have an incentive where if you donate a
Speaker 1: certain amount, we'll get all the details later, but you
Speaker 1: can suggest a game for the two am Nightmare Shuffler
Speaker 1: during the bomba Thon and I will put it into
Speaker 1: the playlist and that every like thirty seconds to a
Speaker 1: minute and a half somewhere in that range. It's gonna
Speaker 1: switch from one game to the next with no warning,
Speaker 1: and suddenly you're just gonna be playing whatever crazy stuff
Speaker 1: you want to put in there.
Speaker 4: Now, we're gonna pass the controller when it's we're gonna
Speaker 4: be that's right.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna passing the controller back and forth. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be chaos and we're probably gonna keep going for
Speaker 1: a while with that. So the more games the better.
Speaker 4: I mean, take Tuesday off work, folks, stay up playing
Speaker 4: with us. We had to do a Monday night for
Speaker 4: this thing. We know it's weird timing, but take Tuesday off.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a long fun stream. Also trying to
Speaker 4: make sure like the Nightmare shovel stuff and everything, a
Speaker 4: bunch of the whackiar stuff is the late night loopy hours.
Speaker 4: So it's gonna be a fun time for sure.
Speaker 2: We have a lot of fun stuff planned and yeah,
Speaker 2: you know programming. Note this is next week, starting Monday night,
Speaker 2: I believe at eight pm Eastern.
Speaker 1: This is when Nope, nope, did you do that?
Speaker 5: That's what's in my calendar, dude, what do you mean
Speaker 5: do that? It's on Mike it's right on the dock.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at my calendar.
Speaker 3: Monday, October twenty seven, starting at five pm.
Speaker 1: That's what I got to.
Speaker 3: Fives look like Gates, I get it.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's when it starts. Yeah, it goes for like
Speaker 2: twenty four hours. So this is gonna be our promo
Speaker 2: for it start.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know I have to fly there.
Speaker 1: Take all what do you you batting? Averaging? Perfect on
Speaker 1: that either listen.
Speaker 3: If you can't take off work on Tuesday, quit your job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's important, damn it.
Speaker 4: Chad does say? Can you write us something we can
Speaker 4: send to our bosses? Can we make a note that
Speaker 4: we can just post to the to the our blue
Speaker 4: shot and people can print it out and give it
Speaker 4: to their bosses.
Speaker 1: I make my dad sign it. He'll love that to
Speaker 1: stand by that, right, Yeah, I know you're right. Prescription
Speaker 1: pack Yeah, is that still a thing? Our blue prescription pads?
Speaker 1: I think it's all digital. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's always been straight to pharmacy.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: Of course, next week there is going to be some
Speaker 2: you know, like Wednesday, Thursday. Don't expect anything. We're gonna
Speaker 2: be in New York. We're gonna be flying home Friday.
Speaker 2: I might do something. It's Halloween, so I'm by myself.
Speaker 2: Might do a little Halloween stream, but nothing big. Yeah,
Speaker 2: next week is really all about the obambathon. Will make
Speaker 2: me some other fun stuff well where there may be
Speaker 2: that we'll post later, but yeah, it's a big deal.
Speaker 2: You know, I see some people asking this is a
Speaker 2: drive for us, wait to get some support, get some
Speaker 2: subscriptions for Giant Bomb Premium. If you're already subscribed to
Speaker 2: Giant Bob Premium, there are going to be other ways
Speaker 2: for you to monetarily support us. So we have a
Speaker 2: lot of fun stuff planned.
Speaker 4: And some of the incentives are really cool and that
Speaker 4: they will allow us to do some bigger things that
Speaker 4: you know, we would not be able to do without
Speaker 4: this drive and the support. So you'll see the incentive
Speaker 4: list once we get go in. But there's some very
Speaker 4: very fun possibilities there.
Speaker 3: And also we've you know, we haven't really talked a
Speaker 3: lot about like where we're doing it and all that stuff,
Speaker 3: but I just want to say, like next week you
Speaker 3: also start to be the start of like a couple
Speaker 3: of new partnerships that we're very excited about that. We've
Speaker 3: been working on for like months and months and months.
Speaker 3: It's going to be sick. I'm very excited. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of new opportunity that's going to come along with this.
Speaker 4: So things are moving here. We've got somethings are on.
Speaker 4: It's because it's real good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's gonna be merch rich as well, mrch
Speaker 2: as well, let's not it for the year. We are
Speaker 2: still going to do an Next Life. I don't think
Speaker 2: that this is the only, you know, marathon thing we're doing,
Speaker 2: or that we're not doing the charity thing because we're
Speaker 2: doing this.
Speaker 4: That was part of what we're playing yesterday too, is
Speaker 4: getting the flights together and everything for folks coming out
Speaker 4: here doing a nice long marathon extra live stream. That's
Speaker 4: gonna be great. Someone in Chad says, are you guys
Speaker 4: doing anything with Mortal Kombat Legacy Collection? Stay tuned next week?
Speaker 4: Stay tuned, Yeah, stay tuned, and something that's very much
Speaker 4: on my radar. So yeah, yeah, I'm excited. I'm just
Speaker 4: very excited about Like, that was a long meeting yesterday.
Speaker 4: I remember leaving that and just being like, hell, yeah,
Speaker 4: I am excited about so many different things right now here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can all shut up about mugs. Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Uh all right, anything else anybody before we get into game,
Speaker 1: any question about the apple or mic gosh, I just
Speaker 1: what's the point? I don't care.
Speaker 4: What's the point?
Speaker 1: Do you know?
Speaker 4: Like quaint and nice it is?
Speaker 1: I guess. I guess I like going to a pumpkin patch.
Speaker 1: I get that, but that doesn't apples.
Speaker 4: You know what?
Speaker 1: He would like cider? No, I've I know what cider
Speaker 1: tastes like, so good a problem.
Speaker 5: He likes the juice of it all.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd rather drink a glass of cider than
Speaker 1: eat an apple.
Speaker 5: Clearly because it is the juice coming out, like the
Speaker 5: juice coming out of the crunch seems like a big deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that don't both together to be optimately bad.
Speaker 4: That's that's why I was thinking of you every time
Speaker 4: I stepped on an apple, because it's like that crunch
Speaker 4: that pop. I was like, oh that, I I con
Speaker 4: feel like shipper from across the country.
Speaker 1: Now. I mean the most the most easy, the most
Speaker 1: easily consumablepple thing is like the dried apple chip. If
Speaker 1: I had to do that, I could do that because
Speaker 1: it was pretty much it turns into an apple.
Speaker 2: There's none of the texture, there's none of the juice.
Speaker 2: It gets rid of a lot of the problems to
Speaker 2: gross skin.
Speaker 5: He's consistent at least, he just doesn't like the consistency
Speaker 5: of fruit.
Speaker 4: So is like, Okay, I don't know if you're like
Speaker 4: a jolly rancher guy or anything, but like like apple
Speaker 4: flavored candies, does that do anything?
Speaker 1: Even that does really taste like apple?
Speaker 2: Yea, Even then I don't like the apples like the
Speaker 2: app that's probably association at this point. Yeah, I thought
Speaker 2: it was a ton of bullshit. When skittles were replaced
Speaker 2: green lime with green apple.
Speaker 4: I was all for that change because green apple is
Speaker 4: one of my favorite candy flavors. And then they went
Speaker 4: back to lime, like coww Yeah, I love the green
Speaker 4: apple era.
Speaker 1: I was with you, and I was like, I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't ever need lineback. And then they brought line
Speaker 1: back and I was like, oh wait, actually this is better.
Speaker 4: Ones. The lemon, the lime, and the orange are the
Speaker 4: boring skittles. They're good, I mean, they're skittles, but like,
Speaker 4: give me some purple is the best? Yeah, red, then purple,
Speaker 4: then yellow, than orange than lime. Apples that jumps up
Speaker 4: purple the flavor colors. Yeah, absolutely, Purple is the best
Speaker 4: fake fruit flavor by far. I think red. They don't
Speaker 4: have grape, they don't have fave purple. Fave reds.
Speaker 1: About We're gonna have joy.
Speaker 4: Lives back our.
Speaker 1: Lowest tier trash candy imaginable. I have a chocolate from
Speaker 1: the dude. No, Skittles are.
Speaker 4: Low tier trash candy. The two most iconic candies.
Speaker 1: Ever garbage garbage tear.
Speaker 3: Don't be smirch this holiday season with your fucking nonsense
Speaker 3: that nobody wants in their trick or treat bags. You
Speaker 3: know what they want first? They want Snickers. Clickers is
Speaker 3: the best chocolate based exactly what are you been talking about?
Speaker 1: Then? What are we even?
Speaker 4: Snickers and Skills and Tarbets are better than Snickers. Snickers
Speaker 4: is number three, though, Sean, the best chocolate picks candy.
Speaker 5: I would like to give away from the candy discussion
Speaker 5: just to save this podcast. Okay, okay, talking about Jet's pizza,
Speaker 5: but I guess we want to talk about.
Speaker 1: You've got the floor. Wait better come correct, Sean, swear
Speaker 1: to God?
Speaker 5: All right, all right, all right? So I was having
Speaker 5: dinner with my mom and I was like, okay, let's
Speaker 5: let's order this pizza. So we didn't get a ton
Speaker 5: so we got like a small Detroit deep dish corner
Speaker 5: or corner. No dance is small.
Speaker 1: Yeah, eight corners.
Speaker 4: Corner is like four corner Yeah, okay, okay, okay yeah
Speaker 4: corner corners all right, yeah yeah, yeah, the corners were had.
Speaker 4: We got the turbo sticks and we got these cinnamon
Speaker 4: sticks that we got, you know, turbos stick.
Speaker 1: Crazy bread.
Speaker 5: Good news is Turbo sticks god like, like probably the
Speaker 5: best cheesy bread breadsticks things I've ever had from a
Speaker 5: pizza placed. I did realize it didn't come with any
Speaker 5: dipping sauce because I like marinara while I'm dipping breadsticks.
Speaker 5: Turbo sticks is incredible. Okay, I'll have to I'll have
Speaker 5: to try that next time. The pizza it was really good.
Speaker 5: I think you guys oversaw it a little bit like
Speaker 5: it's it's really good pizza, especially when you consider that
Speaker 5: Jets is like a chain.
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that, Yeah, well, I think
Speaker 1: I'm always couching it. Like I'm not saying that it's
Speaker 1: going to be the most gourmet Michelin star stuff but
Speaker 1: like compared to any other chain.
Speaker 4: I think that's the thing I put it up next to.
Speaker 4: You know, you're compared to a pizza hut, a Domino's,
Speaker 4: those types of definitely here of that. But also you're
Speaker 4: in Wisconsin. What do they know about cheese?
Speaker 5: You're not going to get.
Speaker 4: Me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's nothing here. I have a ton of Europeans who.
Speaker 1: Football team is literally named after packing meat. That's an
Speaker 1: insane thing on their heads.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it sits in between, It sits in between. It's
Speaker 5: it's definitely a step up from like Domino's and Papa
Speaker 5: Jack and stuff and like that. Stuffs getting so expensive
Speaker 5: that like Jets was roughly the same price anyway, So yeah, Jets.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like like said, it is not you know,
Speaker 4: you go to a restaurant or a gourmet pizza thing,
Speaker 4: that is a different type of thing. But if you're
Speaker 4: just ordering a pizza for you're watching football game or restling,
Speaker 4: paper view or something like, this is like the top
Speaker 4: tier of that type of pizza.
Speaker 5: Yes, I do still prefer the local place because it's
Speaker 5: it's also around that price there they have thankfully kept
Speaker 5: it low, but Jets, you know, just as solid. I'm
Speaker 5: reporting in. I do like the Jets guys were not
Speaker 5: off the mark.
Speaker 1: Are there any out near me?
Speaker 4: I wasn't even aware of it.
Speaker 1: There's some in New York, there's some in the city,
Speaker 1: there's one in one in Brooklyn. There's a couple of they.
Speaker 1: So they sell by the s I think every Jets
Speaker 1: location sells by the slice. So if you want to
Speaker 1: go in there and try to try their big slices, yeah,
Speaker 1: like they're fat.
Speaker 2: Yeah it sounds it sounds pretty good. But I think
Speaker 2: we need to jet away from this conversation and talking about.
Speaker 1: Your video games. Whoa you had me? All right, you
Speaker 1: guys were talking them up that pizza. How about you
Speaker 1: beat them up instead?
Speaker 5: No, what to do with.
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: It's a main up port? What do I got for Absolum?
Speaker 3: I think that barbecue joke ruined your lifeting.
Speaker 1: That's it. You are brain broken.
Speaker 2: I've completed a run in Absolum. Now, Dan and Grub
Speaker 2: have been, uh you just doing test runs for your
Speaker 2: This is the run I.
Speaker 1: Think we did.
Speaker 4: I think we aired those. But yeah, we've just been
Speaker 4: kind of testing the tank and we test, you know,
Speaker 4: making sure we can connect and everything. Yeah, it's looking good. Well,
Speaker 4: we will do a run.
Speaker 1: Such based on what we've tested, though, Holy crap, that's
Speaker 1: a good game.
Speaker 2: That game, it's awesome y for people don't know. This
Speaker 2: is the the new beat them Up published by dot emu,
Speaker 2: and it.
Speaker 1: Is basically what if what if Hades was a beat
Speaker 1: them up instead of the kind of top down action
Speaker 1: game thing. Uh, And it has two player co op
Speaker 1: and it is really good. It's very pretty. That beat
Speaker 1: them Up mechanics are fantastic. U.
Speaker 2: Some of the people who worked on Streets of h
Speaker 2: four involved here, so you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: that vibe to it. But yeah, like the progression is
Speaker 2: very hades and that you get a lot of permanent
Speaker 2: things between runs, and then during the runs you essentially
Speaker 2: get boons that power you up in different ways and
Speaker 2: different resources and other things, uh meeting here too. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of branching pass also, so there's kind of
Speaker 2: a nice exploration aspect to it too.
Speaker 4: And we see something yeah, yeah, we've seen stuff whe
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, you need a key to go up
Speaker 4: to this island, and it's like, okay, I'm sure at
Speaker 4: some point during one of these fasts we'll get a
Speaker 4: key and then on the next run, we'll go up here.
Speaker 4: Like I'm curious because like, I'm having so much fun
Speaker 4: doing a co op. This is ideal to me. But Mike,
Speaker 4: have you been doing solo?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've just been doing a solo and it's still solid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still very good. I mean any fun co
Speaker 2: op for sure, But I don't feel like, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: like having some kind of lesser experience or some kind
Speaker 2: of experience because of that, or a harder experience, even
Speaker 2: like it's pretty good difficulty.
Speaker 4: One of the reasons I'm really loving it is because
Speaker 4: like that genre of just that side scrolling beat them up,
Speaker 4: you know, Streets Raide, Final Fight, you know, the Simpsons Arcade,
Speaker 4: Turtle's Arcade, all that stuff. Like I loved those games
Speaker 4: so much growing up and playing them in arcades and
Speaker 4: bowling alleys and stuff. And then it was once they
Speaker 4: started coming out on Xbox Live Arcade and stuff, where
Speaker 4: it's like, you know, obviously you can just infinitely hit
Speaker 4: quarters and stuff like that. So when it removes that
Speaker 4: kind of challenge factor and like to get yeah, the
Speaker 4: magic's kind of gone and it does just kind of
Speaker 4: boil down, like, oh, this is very simplistic especially like
Speaker 4: the Simpsons Arcade game, which is one of my favorites.
Speaker 4: It's like, boy, there's not a whole lot going on
Speaker 4: there outside Simpsons of it all. So this being like, okay,
Speaker 4: this is that type of gameplay, but with some really
Speaker 4: fleshed out stuff and bringing in you know, roguelike mechanics
Speaker 4: and stuff like that's this is doing it for me
Speaker 4: in a major way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, beat them upse have definitely had their renaissance. I
Speaker 1: was when they went away. I was glad. I'm like,
Speaker 1: these things are they don't make sense in modern gaming
Speaker 1: coming home on a console and trying to play through
Speaker 1: this because of what you said, Dan, And so when
Speaker 1: it when when the resurgence did start to hap happened with? Uh?
Speaker 1: I guess Mike? What was like the early first one.
Speaker 4: A Castle Crashers. I means going all the way back then.
Speaker 2: Castle Crashers is the start of it for me. Some
Speaker 2: people would say that Scott Silver game, which I didn't
Speaker 2: care but.
Speaker 1: Deftly part of that. Yeah, and then it's I think
Speaker 1: for a while there everyone's like, well, Castle Crashers did it,
Speaker 1: We're not going to necessarily be able to do with
Speaker 1: that what they did, and then we, you know, we
Speaker 1: get that string of really great ones sort of culminating
Speaker 1: in streets Rage form. For me, it's like, oh, you
Speaker 1: could do so much more with just a little bit
Speaker 1: more complexity to the combat. And now like, this is
Speaker 1: the team that did the combat for streets Rage four
Speaker 1: or Guard Advanced, Guard Blocks, guard Break, I think that
Speaker 1: might be Guard Break, Yeah, and it's like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so they once they got that down and it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this just beating people up in the beat him up
Speaker 1: should be the funnest thing you're doing in the game.
Speaker 1: Now we could just start layering stuff on top. And
Speaker 1: now we're at a point where it's like, Okay, we've
Speaker 1: learned a lot from all these other Rogue Light games.
Speaker 1: Mash these things together and it just works. And I
Speaker 1: think Mike you were saying, like it's not going to
Speaker 1: feel super different run from running the way that Hades
Speaker 1: always does, because you are getting like the same weapons,
Speaker 1: but like some of the boons, like I got the
Speaker 1: rocket Dwarf and I'm just sitting there blasted back and
Speaker 1: forth and kind of learning how to use it and
Speaker 1: realizing that he's using his gun to like basically do
Speaker 1: a triple jump in the air and it throws him
Speaker 1: across the level. But if I do a triple jump upward,
Speaker 1: he's shooting his gun down, so I can kind of
Speaker 1: attack that way. Or if I rock at dwarf into
Speaker 1: an enemy, I immediately hit them and I could start
Speaker 1: attacking them. So like, I had all these options available
Speaker 1: to me, and it's like that was an awesome build
Speaker 1: and never expected it, and I'm like, oh, I can't
Speaker 1: wait to go again. You unlock more stuff that does
Speaker 1: help runs feel a bit different, Like you kind of
Speaker 1: unlock different sort of categories of boons eventually, Like at
Speaker 1: first it's basically just like fire electricity. Then you get
Speaker 1: win ones.
Speaker 2: I have Necromancy ones that will kind of spawn skeleton
Speaker 2: minions for a little bit based on things that I
Speaker 2: do right. And then you do unlock more characters, just
Speaker 2: four that you get in total, but you know they're
Speaker 2: all pretty different as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we're mentioning the runs we're doing.
Speaker 1: You're familiar with. This is the run.
Speaker 4: We have brought it back with this game, and we're trying.
Speaker 4: I think we've done it every weekday since we announced
Speaker 4: it was back. So we will do a run today.
Speaker 4: Grub I assume you're good form rid this evening, maybe
Speaker 4: like maybe like five ish. Your time five is eastern yep, yeah,
Speaker 4: so we will do that.
Speaker 1: Tune in.
Speaker 4: We're doing a thing there where it's like everyone can
Speaker 4: watch free live on twitch and YouTube, and then the
Speaker 4: archive of these test runs if we don't beat it
Speaker 4: go up on the website. So tune in live for free.
Speaker 4: If you're premium sub, you can go back and watch
Speaker 4: all the VODs.
Speaker 2: I was amused to see Jeff. I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: you should talk to that training lady in your camp
Speaker 2: to teach you things. And then like I see, so
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, Mike said we should.
Speaker 4: Talk to that person.
Speaker 1: I think. I was like, well, let's not do that.
Speaker 4: It's me and him.
Speaker 3: This is.
Speaker 1: I did look for the previous time and she wasn't there.
Speaker 1: So it's like when when it didn't happen in that moment,
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's probably never happening. What did happen? Said?
Speaker 1: Mike told me about this that, like, just let me
Speaker 1: ask you this. Do you guys know what a clash is?
Speaker 4: Is that when the little sprinkle when you do the
Speaker 4: dash forward? Nope, group, should we check that out? I
Speaker 4: have had an idea maybe we should check that out.
Speaker 1: All right, Dan, I like it.
Speaker 2: Let's yeah, all right, fantastic, but uh yeah. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's been an incredible year for roguelikes. You'd almost think
Speaker 2: it'd be too much. There's so many of these popping off,
Speaker 2: and yet I'm still actually not sick of it yet. Dan,
Speaker 2: You've been playing a ton of them, including this one.
Speaker 2: I want to hear about.
Speaker 1: Ball x pits. I don't know if it's ball cross pit,
Speaker 1: if it's just ballit.
Speaker 4: I think people say it's just ballpit. I thinka let's
Speaker 4: just we'll just say ballpit.
Speaker 5: It's not exits a cross you don't pronounce crosses.
Speaker 1: All right, there you go. So yeah, Ballpit's another one these.
Speaker 1: It seems to be popping off pretty good, Dan, How
Speaker 1: are you finding it?
Speaker 4: It's really good. I don't think I love everything it's doing,
Speaker 4: but I love most of what it's doing. And like
Speaker 4: the core game is you've probably seen, you're just kind
Speaker 4: of going up. It's almost like Shmump style, you know,
Speaker 4: and it's not full bullet hell or anything, but you
Speaker 4: are dodging a lot of projectiles and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: But instead of like you know, Galagas style or schmup enemies.
Speaker 4: It is blocks, so it's almost a bit of like
Speaker 4: a breakout arcanoid situation, and you are a character that,
Speaker 4: like I always turn on auto fire. I don't know
Speaker 4: if anyone else have been playing this, but like, I
Speaker 4: don't even know why I would ever turn Like some say,
Speaker 4: if you turn off auto fire, you can move quicker,
Speaker 4: but I have not felt the need to do that.
Speaker 4: So if you have it on, you're just constantly shooting,
Speaker 4: and you've got like eight slots, you know, the way
Speaker 4: like in a in a Vampire Survivors or feel like
Speaker 4: there's another one I'm playing where it's like you have
Speaker 4: a certain amount of slots for balls, and when you start,
Speaker 4: you have your characters like baseball, like okay, this one
Speaker 4: has it's a fireball or a bleed ball or something
Speaker 4: like that, and then the rest are baby balls, which
Speaker 4: I hate how much I have to say baby balls
Speaker 4: when I'm discussing this game, but they do some baby
Speaker 4: balls constantly in this game. So as you level up,
Speaker 4: you get to pick things to replace the baby balls with,
Speaker 4: like okay, a poison ball, a freeze ball, and then
Speaker 4: like Vampire Survivors, you can fuse them, you can evolve them,
Speaker 4: like certain ones confuse with others, and you can really
Speaker 4: do some fucked up things where it's like, okay, now
Speaker 4: my freeze and my poison combined, and then I fuse
Speaker 4: that with a horizontal laser one. And so this ball
Speaker 4: every time you're shooting out a horizontal laser and poisoning
Speaker 4: and freezing everything it touches. And then you can get
Speaker 4: all these perks and stuff where it's like, okay, the
Speaker 4: ball launches at seventy percent speed, but every time it
Speaker 4: bounces it gains like twenty percent speed. So there's all
Speaker 4: these different ways you can kind of go at it.
Speaker 4: For a game that's basically just shooting balls at blocks
Speaker 4: that are moving down the screen, Like, there's a crazy
Speaker 4: amount of variety, and all the different characters are cool,
Speaker 4: Like one of them is a set of like I
Speaker 4: don't know, or twins, or it's like this like weird
Speaker 4: spooky guy and weird spooky lady, and then like they
Speaker 4: shoot opposites, so if you move one left, the other
Speaker 4: shoots right. But cool, dam so, Like there's a lot
Speaker 4: of different ways to play. The thing that I'm not
Speaker 4: as hot on is in between the runs, you know,
Speaker 4: like I love in Hades. When you finish run, you
Speaker 4: go back and like all the hub stuff and the
Speaker 4: incantations and talking to the characters and all that stuff.
Speaker 4: Like Hades has maybe the best in between run of
Speaker 4: any Rogue Light I've ever played, probably, and so compared
Speaker 4: to that, it's pretty weak. It's this, like it looks cool.
Speaker 4: It's this like kind of base building thing where you're
Speaker 4: kind of clearing out land, like this farm land you're
Speaker 4: kind of clearing out and you're building structures and so like, oh,
Speaker 4: this structure will unlock this character once it's built. This
Speaker 4: one is a wheat field and every time you go
Speaker 4: over it you get wheat and there's like currencies in
Speaker 4: a wood stone stuff like that. So it's just kind
Speaker 4: of like pinball type thing. But it's not super engaging,
Speaker 4: Like it's pretty easy to just be like, all right,
Speaker 4: I'll just I need wheat, so I'm going to range
Speaker 4: it so you know, the wheat fields are blocked off here,
Speaker 4: and it's just gonna bounce back in Worth real quick
Speaker 4: and get a bunch of weed. That part's not super
Speaker 4: fun to me. It is just the runs themselves I
Speaker 4: think are great. So there's a lot there considering how
Speaker 4: simple the core gameplay would appear. Definitely gonna keep playing it.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's the town building stuff is the weak part,
Speaker 4: but the rest is very, very fun.
Speaker 5: I would say, Yeah, I didn't get a chance I
Speaker 5: actually play much of it, but I did fire it
Speaker 5: up the other day and at least a run and
Speaker 5: got to bass building stuff. And when I fired up,
Speaker 5: I thought like, oh cool, this will be like a
Speaker 5: little arcady thing where you just keep doing the runs.
Speaker 5: It's like Vampire Survivors, where it's just that's it, that's
Speaker 5: the game. And you know, I think it's fun enough
Speaker 5: that I could see myself putting some time into it.
Speaker 5: Then we got to the bass building. It was such
Speaker 5: a brick wall for me of oh, I'm gonna go
Speaker 5: play something else right now, come back, like, I do
Speaker 5: not want to engage with this when the other half
Speaker 5: of the gameplay is like, you know, fast paced arcadie stuff.
Speaker 5: May maybe they thought it would be a good way
Speaker 5: to like calm down at the end of a really
Speaker 5: intense run or something, but to me it kind of
Speaker 5: reads as we need something else in here to elongate
Speaker 5: the gameplay time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like you know, like imagine a Vampire Survivors
Speaker 4: if you had to do kind of a half baked
Speaker 4: thing in between every run. Like part of the beauty
Speaker 4: of Vampire Survivors to me is just how just simple
Speaker 4: it is, like how elegance and simplicity. And I didn't
Speaker 4: need that thing in between the runs, Like not every
Speaker 4: rogue Light needs that. So if it's not gonna be
Speaker 4: like a Hades thing which really thought out and fleshed
Speaker 4: out and everything, I don't like it that much. And
Speaker 4: that's the case here.
Speaker 2: You gotta love roguelikes because they always got you replaying them,
Speaker 2: just like grub is checking out Yuka replay Lee.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you play the original Yuka lately at all? Uh? Jeff,
Speaker 1: I played it. I played it enough to find out
Speaker 1: that I didn't think it had the juice I thought.
Speaker 1: I remember being like, hmm, this game just feels absent,
Speaker 1: like there's just not a lot of spark here when
Speaker 1: I'm playing it, and so I put it down pretty
Speaker 1: quickly and pretty disappointed because I was looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: And that's so that's your experience to all, Dan.
Speaker 4: So, because we both loved three D platformers and everything,
Speaker 4: I remember like that was one of the first very
Speaker 4: high profile like Kickstarter games, as there are so many.
Speaker 1: Of the people who were actually involved that rare.
Speaker 4: Right, I think they've got and everything and they have
Speaker 4: all these rare people and it's like, oh man, that
Speaker 4: sounds perfect. I would love Like I was so ready
Speaker 4: for like three D platform er stuff, some sort of
Speaker 4: a resurgence, and yeah, I felt the same way Groboard.
Speaker 4: It's like I loaded it up and it's like, okay,
Speaker 4: on its surface, a lot of this like sure, this
Speaker 4: looks like rare characters, they're talking like rare characters. But
Speaker 4: there's just kind of an emptiness or a coldness to
Speaker 4: the actual gameplay that I bounced off very quickly originally,
Speaker 4: So I was I went.
Speaker 1: Into this You Could Replay League specifically to investigate if
Speaker 1: that had changed at all, because I think the talk
Speaker 1: for this game was this will be a chance for
Speaker 1: us to sort of address some of the criticisms and
Speaker 1: make some improvements. And I'll say, the thing that I
Speaker 1: think I noticed is that there is more like, uh,
Speaker 1: very quickly you are encountering more challenges and more of
Speaker 1: the page's which I think are there are the primary
Speaker 1: pet you know, thing that you're game. Yes, their star. Yeah,
Speaker 1: seems like there's more of those, so that was already
Speaker 1: an improvement, and yet it's like maybe fifteen percent more
Speaker 1: juice like there is. This is definitely better. It's just
Speaker 1: it's it's not like Night and Day better. I think
Speaker 1: that's where I kind of ended up with it, how
Speaker 1: about you, Dan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't play that much of it, but like initially,
Speaker 4: I think I'm liking it more than the first time around.
Speaker 4: Like I like the look of it, like it just
Speaker 4: looks like it made there. Yeah, yeah, totally. So it's
Speaker 4: like it is something that is on my list of
Speaker 4: stuff to play, but like and with everything out right now,
Speaker 4: it is so far down on the list. So yeah,
Speaker 4: maybe I get to it in February or March or
Speaker 4: something like that. But you know, played a little bit
Speaker 4: did not grab me enough to keep it going, even
Speaker 4: though I love that genre so much and I would
Speaker 4: love to see more rare like platformers. But I think
Speaker 4: I like the Donkey Kong country style one more. That
Speaker 4: made that two.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hear that a lot of people the possible fantastic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that one's a lot better, I think. Yeah, So
Speaker 4: I'll get back to.
Speaker 1: It though, Yeah, I think, I'll, I'll play this a
Speaker 1: little bit more. I'll. The other thing is it does
Speaker 1: get started quick more quickly. You don't have to unlock
Speaker 1: all of your moves, you just have them from the beginning,
Speaker 1: or you get them very quickly at the very least,
Speaker 1: like within the first half hour, half an hour, and
Speaker 1: that immediately makes the game feel a little bit better
Speaker 1: because it's like, Okay, now I'm encountering challenges where I
Speaker 1: can use the role move and sort of roll on
Speaker 1: a slant and not worry about falling down, and that
Speaker 1: just feels good. It doesn't feel as good as a
Speaker 1: lot of other like three D platforms that are kind
Speaker 1: of in its same space, like that Big Hop game.
Speaker 1: I think, just immediately use so much better.
Speaker 4: Than Yes, But what's the other one? The demon? It's
Speaker 4: a demon's taking, yeah, and then that's the person that's
Speaker 4: making as well.
Speaker 1: Right, is got more going on than this? But this
Speaker 1: is not bad. It's just like, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily know how you translate banjo because we sort of
Speaker 1: like plotting, run animation and stuff like that. I think
Speaker 1: I think what made Banjo KAZUOI work was it was
Speaker 1: a really good looking in sixty four game that did
Speaker 1: seem like I had a lot of love put into
Speaker 1: the characters charming and yeah, like in over the top
Speaker 1: like visual aesthetics that kind of complement to that and
Speaker 1: brought it into a charming zone. Here, it's like it's
Speaker 1: a little bit harder to pull that off these days,
Speaker 1: and if you're kind of just being a standard three
Speaker 1: D platformer with standard three D platforming visuals, which again
Speaker 1: they are better here. Uh, it's not as like aesthetically
Speaker 1: like interesting as something like a demon s Turf which
Speaker 1: has that like two D cutout character style and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. Yes, Uh, Yuka's the the lizard and lately
Speaker 1: is the bat? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Were we all bracing? I noticed we all were bracing.
Speaker 4: Did we think he was going to try really hamphis See?
Speaker 1: It was just a question because like the bat is
Speaker 1: just kind of hanging on there. Maybe second butter of
Speaker 1: as well, like some kind of parasite. And speaking of parasites,
Speaker 1: I was checking.
Speaker 4: Out Don't go Anywhere again so much.
Speaker 1: Hey, this this has been a big one on my
Speaker 1: back law for a while. This is a PS one
Speaker 1: game from the Squaresoft's era of just releasing Banger after
Speaker 1: bangor uh since I know, oh this game holds up.
Speaker 1: It's so freaking cool because it's good. It really is
Speaker 1: this weird combination of Square Enix out their peak or
Speaker 1: Squareesoft really back then of just like oh, their games
Speaker 1: look really pretty.
Speaker 2: They have all these insane uh FMVs. There's just incredible
Speaker 2: production values. Shim Moor is doing the soundtracks, so the
Speaker 2: soundtrack is just incredible. So foring it, it's like some
Speaker 2: of the best stuff you will hear.
Speaker 1: Uh. And then it's got a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: Resident Evil survival horror influence, with things like a lot
Speaker 1: of the pre rendered backgrounds off the Square was doing
Speaker 1: that as well.
Speaker 2: It's some of the survival horror mechanics. But it's not
Speaker 2: like you know, a tank control you know, aim and
Speaker 2: shoot zombies kind of game. The combat is.
Speaker 1: Kind of turn basis. It's real time turn based. You
Speaker 1: have an at B bar kind of like in those
Speaker 1: Final Fantas games, and every time, you know, while it's
Speaker 1: filling up, you do run around and you're dodging attacks,
Speaker 1: and once it filled up, you push the button and
Speaker 1: the sphere kind of expands from you and anything within
Speaker 1: that sphere's influence. You can then attack with your gun,
Speaker 1: so it's yeah.
Speaker 5: All offense, offenses turn base, but then defense is like
Speaker 5: hell active, it's real time.
Speaker 1: Now, it's really cool systems.
Speaker 4: So I'm curious because I remember, I think I was
Speaker 4: working in a funkal land when that came out, and
Speaker 4: we're looking at that box and reading about it and
Speaker 4: be like, Okay, people seem to like this game and
Speaker 4: it looks cool, like it looked like like it was
Speaker 4: certain kind of modern times.
Speaker 1: And right it's just in New York City Christmas Eve.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think the reason I never checked it
Speaker 4: out was I saw it was square, and I just
Speaker 4: associated square with like, oh, okay, they make those games
Speaker 4: I don't like. So do you think if I were
Speaker 4: to play it even like now, like, do you think
Speaker 4: I would enjoy it? Or is it too square?
Speaker 2: I think unless you were like like really upset about
Speaker 2: the idea of laying for a bar to fill up
Speaker 2: to have to shoot people, right, yeah, I think you'd
Speaker 2: be fine if you like like original style Resident Evil games,
Speaker 2: because the pacing is yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely it's more like what if they made
Speaker 5: a Residentavil RPG rather than a Squaresoft like horror game.
Speaker 2: I think, okay, yeah, and I even like that even
Speaker 2: the magic system, like you have abilities and it uses
Speaker 2: something kind of like MP, but it also is refilling constantly,
Speaker 2: so you have to take like a man of potion,
Speaker 2: so you can kind of just you know, use those
Speaker 2: abilities relatively frequently and not have to worry about it.
Speaker 1: Ifact at least early on, when maybe my criticisms that
Speaker 1: the game is a little easy because one of the
Speaker 1: abilities you have is a healing spell and your MP
Speaker 1: is constantly recharging, so it's like, wow, I could just
Speaker 1: heel myself basically infinitely, So unless I'm really messing up,
Speaker 1: your things are going to be fine. But again, it's
Speaker 1: okay because just the vibes and the aesthetic of the
Speaker 1: game is absolutely prop but like even just like it's
Speaker 1: such a PS one game, right, even when you're in
Speaker 1: the car, and just the weird way they're framing these
Speaker 1: three D models in a car that is a pre
Speaker 1: rendered background and behind it is this animated loop of
Speaker 1: a city scape. I'm like, oh, I could just stare
Speaker 1: at this for hours. I don't know.
Speaker 5: It's the same people who did f F seven, By
Speaker 5: the way, it looks sometimes.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, but I love that look. Like, I don't
Speaker 4: know why I associate it with like Vagrant story of
Speaker 4: like similar. Oh yeah, we're like I would be curious
Speaker 4: about Like, okay, it sounds like they're doing something different
Speaker 4: than just kind of like the turn based battles, you know,
Speaker 4: so I was like curious about them.
Speaker 2: I think Vaga story has like the same kind of
Speaker 2: expanding sphere things. Yeah, very similar.
Speaker 4: I think I want to play Parasita.
Speaker 5: I think I should. Mike you said, this is your
Speaker 5: first time ever checking it out.
Speaker 1: First time ever playing a moment of it.
Speaker 5: Wow, that's awesome. It's been a huge I also had
Speaker 5: it on my backlog forever and checked out for the
Speaker 5: first time last year for Christmas because its a you know,
Speaker 5: it's a little made diehardy, but like it takes place
Speaker 5: during Christmas and so it kind of has those vibes,
Speaker 5: especially in the beginning. And yeah, it totally holds up,
Speaker 5: especially because it is such a unique combination of that
Speaker 5: turn based and real time. It's just really fun. And uh,
Speaker 5: you know, last night, as I was fall asleep, I
Speaker 5: pulled up a six hour Shawn Johnson video as you know,
Speaker 5: as one does, and here's the part in the square
Speaker 5: Enix one where he talks about parasite. Even I'm like
Speaker 5: just looking at Yeah.
Speaker 4: This holds up.
Speaker 5: It's so good. It looks so cool, it's fun to play,
Speaker 5: it's gotten, you know, compelling enough story like it's solid.
Speaker 5: I like you a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the translation is pretty good. I did laugh
Speaker 2: at like one part. I don't know if this is
Speaker 2: the original right now of the translation. But they're going
Speaker 2: to a museum. We got to meet this scientist third.
Speaker 2: You know your play as cops right, you're in the
Speaker 2: NYPD had to meet the scientist third at the museum
Speaker 2: and she's like, what is a guy with a PhD
Speaker 2: doing working at a museum? It's like chat, that's very
Speaker 2: that's a very normal thing. Yeah, that's really people normally do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there is also something about horror game setting Christmas. It's
Speaker 2: like I can play this on October, November or December.
Speaker 4: That's great. Run in play sdio games. It'll run in
Speaker 4: May if.
Speaker 1: I get that. Get that out of here. But yeah,
Speaker 1: if you've been curious about this game forever like I have,
Speaker 1: I think it's just absolutely still worth checking out. I'm
Speaker 1: curious about the sequels. Apparently the sequel is much more
Speaker 1: traditional Survival Horror, and it's still very good, but it's
Speaker 1: kind of like a bit of a shame that it
Speaker 1: lost some of the uniqueness. Then there's that weird third
Speaker 1: one for the PS two that nobody seems to like,
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of curious what happened there with that one.
Speaker 1: But that is enough about Parasite Eve. I'm gonna I
Speaker 1: don't really have a good transition step no no, no, no,
Speaker 1: really stealthily move over to this next game, almost as
Speaker 1: if some kind of some kind of Ninja, which makes
Speaker 1: me think.
Speaker 4: It's the least stealthy game ever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can push why person's unsuspecting and.
Speaker 4: You can't assassinate.
Speaker 1: It is like the least stealthy Ninja series, and I
Speaker 1: respect that about that.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, not very stealthy. They just got
Speaker 1: in four. Uh it's now. I played a couple hours
Speaker 1: of it yesterday. Sean's been checking out Dan. I think
Speaker 1: you've been playing maybe the most of it.
Speaker 4: I think I'm probably well over halfway.
Speaker 1: I believe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it. It turns out I'm really nostalgic
Speaker 4: for that, like PS two era Devil May Cry, moving
Speaker 4: into like the three sixty Bay and Netta like that,
Speaker 4: we used to call it stylish action genre again in
Speaker 4: format and like that. I love that shit. And like nowadays,
Speaker 4: I feel like we still get a lot of you know,
Speaker 4: third person action games, but it's very much in the
Speaker 4: From like that is what's kind of in vogue now.
Speaker 4: And I have a lot of respect for the From
Speaker 4: style of you know, an action game. I respect them
Speaker 4: more than I enjoy them, Whereas I really love playing
Speaker 4: this style of like you know, this, I'm it brings
Speaker 4: me back to those type becames like fucking Ninja Blade
Speaker 4: and stuff like that on the three six, you know,
Speaker 4: even like the kind of like B tier ones like
Speaker 4: this is. I'm not saying this is a B tier one,
Speaker 4: but it reminds me of that. It is so fucking fat.
Speaker 4: It's Backler. I've been thinking about something you said about
Speaker 4: this game when we were playing a week or two ago.
Speaker 4: You compared it to another series, and now I can't
Speaker 4: stop thinking about that. Do you want to tell people
Speaker 4: what you told me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just Sonic it indeed, But you know what
Speaker 3: I mean right like I do.
Speaker 4: Because it's like you were just in Sonic You're just
Speaker 4: kind of flinging around doing stuff and like weird music's playing.
Speaker 4: This one is like you're just zip zapping all over
Speaker 4: the screen, chopping head since it's like a more violent sonic,
Speaker 4: but it's got that kind of music that toned to
Speaker 4: it and everything. God, I think Backler's right. This is
Speaker 4: kind of the sonic of action games.
Speaker 1: It's just it's violent sonic.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh my god, someone push a Yeah, I
Speaker 3: guess sure, someone puts sonic in a gee and now
Speaker 3: he's just like swords and now he's just fucking fools
Speaker 3: up and chopping their heads off.
Speaker 4: And you're rail grinding and like and you've got like
Speaker 4: a glider and you're flying around the sky and yeah.
Speaker 3: And a lot of the early parts are sort of
Speaker 3: just like hanging out on like gigantic elevating platforms to
Speaker 3: like the next area. It's just the sonic game, folks,
Speaker 3: you know what.
Speaker 4: I fucking okay. This was after my heart right away,
Speaker 4: because like I was going the options first, and some
Speaker 4: of the options were like, do you want to enable
Speaker 4: emphasized dismemberment please defaulted of that and also defaulted enable
Speaker 4: blood bath kill camera. I was like, yes, I'm listening.
Speaker 4: It's like very excited about this, and then it starts.
Speaker 4: There's not even a fucking cut scene. There's not a
Speaker 4: line of dialogue. It starts and you were on a
Speaker 4: moving train dudes with guns and you chop up their
Speaker 4: bodies and then their body parts stay on the train,
Speaker 4: and as the train moves, their body parts are like
Speaker 4: sliding around and stuff.
Speaker 3: This is my fantastic It's definitely funny. It's a fun
Speaker 3: game for sure. I think for me, you know, obviously
Speaker 3: you really dig it. I like, I can only handle
Speaker 3: so much of something like this because after a while
Speaker 3: I'm just like, oh, cool, out of the gate you
Speaker 3: unlock I don't know seventy three different combos you get.
Speaker 4: You're like mine though, Mackler, we probably got the same code.
Speaker 4: That was like, we got a ton of currency, even.
Speaker 1: Even what you don't do that. Yeah, it was reclaiming
Speaker 1: that and I even did say, like, boy, it is
Speaker 1: a lot to keep track of it.
Speaker 4: It's a lot, a lot because ever you get multiple
Speaker 4: weapons and each one of them has this like is
Speaker 4: it the blood Raven mode where you can hold LT
Speaker 4: so I actually love this system, but it is a
Speaker 4: lot where you can hold in LT if you have
Speaker 4: meter to kind of like you get kind of red
Speaker 4: and glowy and you can do these like kind of
Speaker 4: stronger attacks and it opens up a whole new like
Speaker 4: suite of attacks for your weapons. Like your katana has
Speaker 4: all these combos, but if you're in blood Raven mode,
Speaker 4: it does these combos and then you start unlocking more
Speaker 4: weapons and they all have the blood Raven mode, so like, yeah, back,
Speaker 4: you're right. It's like I have to go into that
Speaker 4: list a lot and be like, oh, right, I can
Speaker 4: do that thing where I hold in LT for blood Raven.
Speaker 4: Then I do RB and A, which will make me
Speaker 4: po go up on my bloody sword, and then yes,
Speaker 4: but it's like way taller, and then you can do
Speaker 4: different O X and Y, which which one does the sweep,
Speaker 4: which one is the single attack? Like it's it is
Speaker 4: a lot. You kind of got to find your favorite
Speaker 4: moves and stick with that.
Speaker 1: And lean into that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's combo barf right. There's just like
Speaker 3: so much that you that you have at your disposal
Speaker 3: that me personally, I'm sort of like, man, I really
Speaker 3: wish like there was maybe a fifth of these combos
Speaker 3: available and I would really master them into like a
Speaker 3: super cool choreographed kind of ballet of death and exactly,
Speaker 3: and I'm just like not able to like do that.
Speaker 3: I'm not able to like very quickly i lose the
Speaker 3: thread and I'm just spamming buttons and I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: still doing cool shit. I'm still dodging. I'm still being
Speaker 3: a fancy murder boy. But like, I don't I don't
Speaker 3: feel like I'm really controlling this guy where I want
Speaker 3: to be.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: I see that's interesting because I think that's the sign
Speaker 5: of good action game is they said, you're still having
Speaker 5: fun with it, do just kind of pressing bunds and
Speaker 5: cool stuff happens because this game, what you just described,
Speaker 5: that's what makes a cater to both you guys and
Speaker 5: the action game siccos like me because I'm the kind
Speaker 5: of guy who when they gave me training mode, I
Speaker 5: hop in training mode for half an hour to see
Speaker 5: how long can I make these as how high laing.
Speaker 5: I'm labbing the game so I can convert into a
Speaker 5: tough currency, get even more moves, and keep my combos
Speaker 5: going even longer, so that way, when I do enter combat,
Speaker 5: it's just a chain of me rolling around, sliding, you know, jumping,
Speaker 5: off the walls, grapple hooking, and maybe not even getting
Speaker 5: hit during the combat, just because I'm doing so much
Speaker 5: for these enemies.
Speaker 1: It's kind of applying a couple of things that work
Speaker 1: for you, Like I am still doing the Azuna drop Like.
Speaker 4: Yes, every battle, I jump in, flying swallow you do
Speaker 4: the thing. We're gon do it three times. Yes, I'm
Speaker 4: doing to drop you like guidance.
Speaker 5: That's what Ninja guy in his always you only need
Speaker 5: those two moves, but those are stuff if you want it.
Speaker 4: You know, for some reason, never seems to do anything,
Speaker 4: but it looks cool.
Speaker 1: What a pointless thing.
Speaker 5: That's the thing because it allows you to add damage
Speaker 5: to the board while you're moving, and with your enemies
Speaker 5: it will stagger them, so the dudes with a gun
Speaker 5: don't shoot you.
Speaker 1: It's sonic and it's pinball. It's both the I want
Speaker 1: to say that.
Speaker 4: What Shron is describing as something that I think very
Speaker 4: few games can do, and I love it when they do,
Speaker 4: where it's like sole Caliber to me is the ultimate
Speaker 4: of this where it's like you can jump in, you
Speaker 4: can hit buttons, and it's look cool. You're gonna have
Speaker 4: a fun fucking time. You don't need to know anything. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but I was the sick of soul caliber that I
Speaker 4: went into training with every fucking character and learned everybody's moves,
Speaker 4: and it can be really rewarding on that front. So
Speaker 4: it's like, I do think that, like having this many
Speaker 4: combos and stuff isn't necessarily a bad thing, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know the it's funny you say that, Dan,
Speaker 5: I was thinking that this weekend with a different game,
Speaker 5: because I just picked up Ninja Guy last night when
Speaker 5: I came out. But over the weekend, you know, I've
Speaker 5: doused at Agaki song. All right, pe we lost the
Speaker 5: last week, I fired up Dead or Alive on my
Speaker 5: three sixty all the Dead or Alive games and thinking
Speaker 5: to myself, that's the Koe Techmo legacy there, because Dead
Speaker 5: or Alive is so easy to hop into, press some
Speaker 5: buns and he like a three hit auto combo, or
Speaker 5: you can extend it. Really you do, like the wall
Speaker 5: bounce stuff and all of that. That's what makes this
Speaker 5: feel like it's in that legacy of the Ninja Guy
Speaker 5: in games, you know, the three D games and Koe
Speaker 5: Techmo and everything they're doing. Despite the fact that it
Speaker 5: is made by Platinum because you know, this is kind
Speaker 5: of Melecu Rising Tudes.
Speaker 4: I immediately thought of that because like the way you
Speaker 4: run and kind of like auto parkour over stuff and everything.
Speaker 4: It's like like the slide under things, like, oh, this
Speaker 4: feels a lot.
Speaker 1: The most you get that is.
Speaker 2: Like the first Big Boss fight there's he goes into
Speaker 2: a face transition and then the song that was playing
Speaker 2: gets lyrics and I'm like.
Speaker 1: This just revengeance. It activated me just like that.
Speaker 5: So for Platinum, Platinum never got the chance to do too,
Speaker 5: even though they were clearly planning it that weird tgst's
Speaker 5: and everything, but they just put it into Ninja guy
Speaker 5: in form got the contract. It's like diverernetic ninjas and everything.
Speaker 5: Just like Rising. It's all that futurism and like invading
Speaker 5: like the enemy's.
Speaker 1: Character that you're playing as instead of Red you this
Speaker 1: new guy. It's very rioting coded.
Speaker 4: He's very sort of like grabbing the gatorade spines like
Speaker 4: and Rising. You're doing the obliteration moves which you can
Speaker 4: hit why or hold why. At a certain point you
Speaker 4: just it does this animation and everything where you're just
Speaker 4: tearing these fucking dudes apart.
Speaker 5: But you you also get something similar. That's kind of
Speaker 5: what the blood bath kills are. When you know you're
Speaker 5: when you're in blood Raven modey, you charge it up
Speaker 5: and it gets the red. The screen turns black, white
Speaker 5: and red, very mad world with like Japanese characters on it,
Speaker 5: and it says you do that over and over and
Speaker 5: over until they're all dead. Oh yeah, he gets the
Speaker 5: same feel as doing Zendatsu over and over.
Speaker 4: That blood bath mode. So you got your your blood
Speaker 4: Raven bar, and then you have the blood Bath bar.
Speaker 4: I'd probably not call that, but once you fill that up.
Speaker 5: It's Berserk mode. So it's the difference between the blood Binding,
Speaker 5: which is blood binding you were describing as like blood
Speaker 5: ravens almost like a stance where you do different moos.
Speaker 5: That's kind of like the true heavy attack of the game.
Speaker 5: Because you get armor on the attacks, you may do
Speaker 5: much more damage, can hit multiple opponents. And then you
Speaker 5: have the Berserk Gauge, which is like devil trigger.
Speaker 4: When you're in Berserk Gauge, at any point you can
Speaker 4: hit or I don't know if you hit or hold.
Speaker 4: I think it's both sticks and it does this. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you hold it and it'll do this thing where it
Speaker 4: just does some crazy animation and it's kind of a
Speaker 4: scream clearing thing. Any like low level enemies will be
Speaker 4: torn apart. So you get that later I don't care.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe that's not right away, but like once you
Speaker 4: get that, it's like, so you'll activate it the berserk
Speaker 4: mode type thing, and then if you hold in an attack,
Speaker 4: you can kill one enemy, a low level enemy with yes,
Speaker 4: just holding the button. But then if before it runs out,
Speaker 4: if you do the hold L three and R three thing,
Speaker 4: that's where it does the kind of screen clearing thing,
Speaker 4: and god damn it if that doesn't feel awesome every time.
Speaker 2: The one thing like I don't love about the game
Speaker 2: is the story stuff. But the story has never been
Speaker 2: anything interesting in these games.
Speaker 1: It's very forgetable.
Speaker 2: No, it's so forgettable. It at least it starts you
Speaker 2: off right away. But then there is like a bit
Speaker 2: where it's like, we have to talk to this character
Speaker 2: for a while. And it's also when the game suddenly
Speaker 2: looks ugly because the character models close don't look amazing
Speaker 2: and their mouths are moving like they're still in an
Speaker 2: Xbox three sixty game.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of that, but I like the look
Speaker 4: of like those Dinger guid In games, the three d ones,
Speaker 4: Like they all kind of look like action figures. There's
Speaker 4: just kind of a plastic quality to a lot of models,
Speaker 4: and like everything's just kind of everything's just wet and
Speaker 4: plastic looking, and it's like it's kind of cool. What's
Speaker 4: with his face, Mike, that's going on?
Speaker 1: Come on, these characters are going to talk about how
Speaker 1: everything is wet and plastic? Dad at all? Timer, All right, I'm.
Speaker 4: Lost, Yeah talking about what are you talking about?
Speaker 5: Mike?
Speaker 1: All the girls in these games have giant big Yeah,
Speaker 1: what what are you talking about? Like weapons, like like
Speaker 1: plasticons that what you mean?
Speaker 5: What do you?
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I was like the furry especially
Speaker 1: like you're gonna go talk to this priestess and I
Speaker 1: immediately its like, had a picture in my mind of.
Speaker 3: What I expand this character to look like. And you
Speaker 3: forget what series it's in. Yeah, but it is like,
Speaker 3: of course, any of you guys, were you like a
Speaker 3: sickle like me? And you just are like, I wonder what,
Speaker 3: like the hero difficulty does? No?
Speaker 4: I did that on Ninja guid in Black, the kind
Speaker 4: of re release of the first one you're talking about
Speaker 4: with this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not talking that yet. I went in there
Speaker 3: just to see what was going on. It was it's
Speaker 3: kind of cool, Like obviously it's incredibly easy and you
Speaker 3: you can just put your controller down and it'll sort
Speaker 3: of almost kill everyone for you.
Speaker 1: But I just wanted to.
Speaker 3: I wanted to taste of the of of the Forbidden,
Speaker 3: you know, I wanted to like get out and see
Speaker 3: what that was all about. And I don't know, I
Speaker 3: feel like the game felt easier than I thought it
Speaker 3: would be in regular mode. I'm sure you know there's puns,
Speaker 3: you know, parts that lie ahead, but it was still
Speaker 3: somehow kind of fun.
Speaker 4: Fights are pretty tough. I've die a lot of boss
Speaker 4: fights and like really chew through items, and like some
Speaker 4: items are pretty expensive, like I always like to pop
Speaker 4: the attack boost and the boost, but like those costs
Speaker 4: like seventy five hundred of your Ninja coin or whatever.
Speaker 2: I did realize pretty quickly though, when you like die
Speaker 2: during a battle and retry, you get your health back.
Speaker 2: So if I if I'm going to a battle without
Speaker 2: much health, don't use healing items.
Speaker 1: Just go in and die and then you can retry
Speaker 1: and get all your health.
Speaker 4: I'm such a freak with you know, because like you'll
Speaker 4: die and do you want to use your potion of
Speaker 4: revival or whatever. I have not used it once because
Speaker 4: I had that dumb brain thing where it's like, well,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna really need this sometime, I'm not going to
Speaker 4: use it on this loss. So I literally have never
Speaker 4: used one.
Speaker 5: You're you're min max and I get that because you know,
Speaker 5: you don't until a little bit like oh, they actually
Speaker 5: give them to you with a decent cadence. It's not often,
Speaker 5: but it's like, you know, a couple times a level
Speaker 5: a chest will have a revival one, so it's not
Speaker 5: like super scarce, but you do have to be like conservative,
Speaker 5: like oh I died right away, y'all, I'll I'll just restart.
Speaker 5: Don't even bother using it.
Speaker 4: So the levels are pretty linear, but like there are
Speaker 4: those kind of like Okay, I clearly if I go
Speaker 4: to the end of this side thing, I'm going to
Speaker 4: get a treasure chest with something like I'm.
Speaker 5: Not a ton of exploration in this I will I
Speaker 5: will say, speaking out what Jeff was talking about with like,
Speaker 5: you know, the difficulty in everything. This game does have
Speaker 5: a lot of like accessibility options related to difficulty. That's
Speaker 5: something that they focus on their TGS presentation was the
Speaker 5: fact that like euro Mode is there where it's kind
Speaker 5: of just like the guided story experience, which is a
Speaker 5: little bit heavy handed maybe, but if you really just
Speaker 5: want to see what's going on in this game and
Speaker 5: not really feel pressured, you can do that. But there's
Speaker 5: also like, you know, auto opening things. If you don't
Speaker 5: want to just be constantly hating buns. There's auto like
Speaker 5: wall running and traversal stuff. If you're like not good
Speaker 5: with the timing on that thing, that kind of thing.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of those options in there, not like
Speaker 5: a ton of ton but enough where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 5: if I have trouble with this element of the game,
Speaker 5: there's probably something that can help alleviate that. And I
Speaker 5: think that's cool because that's the kind of accessibility option
Speaker 5: I like, where I can play on the default difficulty
Speaker 5: get a slightly difficult experience. There's a more difficult experience
Speaker 5: to be had, but also it can be scaled back
Speaker 5: if people just want to have more fun with the
Speaker 5: game and not to worry about that too much.
Speaker 4: Are we passed the point now? Because I remember when
Speaker 4: Benetta came out, there was some online discourse about like
Speaker 4: they added like an easy mode where basically like you
Speaker 4: just jam on a and she'll do a bunch of combos,
Speaker 4: and everybody was furious about it. Like do people still
Speaker 4: get mad about that?
Speaker 5: All those people? Okay, well those people are still on Twitter,
Speaker 5: so we kind of just don't see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they've also they also have their stuff now
Speaker 1: with the front Soft games, so it's like they can
Speaker 1: they go over there and argument those games. Yeah?
Speaker 2: All right, boy, you also made me eat hungry when
Speaker 2: you're talking about all the pizza earlier, makes you wish
Speaker 2: I had a nice hot zaw right now talking about it?
Speaker 4: You do a segue doesn't have to technically take this
Speaker 4: thing and connected to this thing. I don't think you
Speaker 4: can go back. You have to go from the current
Speaker 4: one to the next one. It might restart.
Speaker 1: If I could just drop an oue there too.
Speaker 4: But just because it's like in your.
Speaker 1: Head doesn't mean I don't know. I think that's actually
Speaker 1: he does have to.
Speaker 4: So again, this is all I've always known that about
Speaker 4: my but I especially learned it last week with the
Speaker 4: with is Urethra about is your Ethra.
Speaker 2: Sure speaking of wide holes, Brie playing Pokemon Legends z
Speaker 2: a pizza, Pokemon Pizza, say it, Poking pizza Pokemonza. Everybody,
Speaker 2: come on down to Pokemon Legend Za. We can get
Speaker 2: a hot, fresh slice. We've cooked it earlier. Don't worry
Speaker 2: that will pop it back in the oven and heat it.
Speaker 1: Up for you. Got a little fresh and muzzarella on there.
Speaker 5: Hey is Italian, he can do this.
Speaker 1: How do you reheat your pizza? I don't. I'll eat cold.
Speaker 1: I like.
Speaker 5: I would have an air.
Speaker 3: Okay, I.
Speaker 1: Don't care. Yeah, Mike, what I can't tell if I
Speaker 1: do like a colder. I eat a lot of things cold.
Speaker 1: I eat like my left or apasta cold. I eat
Speaker 1: it all cold because I'm just like it's fine this way.
Speaker 1: But maybe I'm just lazy. Hand cold pizza is. I
Speaker 1: feel like a bit of a stretch. For the most
Speaker 1: It's like a whole thing. People like pizzas. People like
Speaker 1: it so but it's canceled. I'd like me.
Speaker 2: Ah, Jan left the note here, uh I said, please
Speaker 2: read if I'm not on pod. This is how Jan
Speaker 2: god is groove back. It got the sauce. Dang it
Speaker 2: that could have been another pizza reference. You guys should
Speaker 2: really let me go with the pizza thing all the way. Uh,
Speaker 2: I've been playing this a good amount, Sean. I think
Speaker 2: you've been playing a lot. Yeah, yeah, you might have
Speaker 2: played a little bit, uh, Seannotte. Let's start off with you.
Speaker 2: You're you're probably the biggest Pokemon fan among us.
Speaker 1: We both like it. You like it more than I
Speaker 1: do these days. You play it more.
Speaker 2: I always just like play the story and then I'm
Speaker 2: usually done. You get deeper into it. You've also liked
Speaker 2: Scarlet and Violet a good deal more than I did.
Speaker 2: I couldn't even get through that game. So how are
Speaker 2: you finding the zawd?
Speaker 5: It feels good because finally, lately the thought that popped
Speaker 5: into my head when Jan was streaming it. But which,
Speaker 5: by the way, if anyone wants to see the beginning
Speaker 5: of the game, just to check it out, we have
Speaker 5: a video on YouTube the first three hours of Pokemon
Speaker 5: Legends ZA. It's actually closer four but I low bald.
Speaker 5: The thought running through my head when we were streaming
Speaker 5: it and when I picked it up is this is
Speaker 5: just a really good video game. No asterisk, which didn't
Speaker 5: be the thing You're aiming for. But with game Freak,
Speaker 5: it's kind of the thing the problem we've been having
Speaker 5: for around a decade now, if there's always something wrong,
Speaker 5: especially in the Switch era. You know, scarltand Viola was
Speaker 5: the height of that, of like running and looking like
Speaker 5: trash because they rushed it out. No, they just made
Speaker 5: a very good video game. It's a ton of fun
Speaker 5: to play, and I think I'm I am curious to
Speaker 5: see what you guys think. I want to hear your
Speaker 5: thoughts because I'm curious how it plays to people who
Speaker 5: are a more casual with it, you know, Mike being
Speaker 5: more casual than I am, and then Grubb not really
Speaker 5: being into the series in general, because this is the
Speaker 5: game that I always want as a kid, because it's
Speaker 5: just the Pokemon battles from the TV show that's the
Speaker 5: focus of this game in general, the real time Pikachu Daja,
Speaker 5: the way that's finally something that happens in the video
Speaker 5: games and that's really cool to be brought to life.
Speaker 5: I got some deeper thoughts on it, but I'm curious
Speaker 5: how you guys are finding it.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at a lot and yeah, like the move
Speaker 2: over to cool down based battles, more real time actually
Speaker 2: works really well here. It changes the dynamic.
Speaker 1: It makes certain moves, but I used to like never
Speaker 1: think about using Like there's a lot of moves in
Speaker 1: the old games, like like it'll do a little bit
Speaker 1: of damage each turn, and here they kind of become
Speaker 1: traps on the battlefield, so suddenly they're more interesting. Just
Speaker 1: the fact that because of the system now you don't
Speaker 1: have PP anymore, like, oh, you can only use this
Speaker 1: move five times. No, the stronger moves just have longer
Speaker 1: cool downs. Between those cool downs you're using other moves.
Speaker 1: So maybe like sword dances and something I would ever
Speaker 1: use just playing through story mode, because you don't really
Speaker 1: need to use stack boosting moves unless you're playing competitively,
Speaker 1: you're doing real late game stuff. But here it's like, again,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll throw away the swords dance here and there
Speaker 1: or something like.
Speaker 5: It gives you something to do while you're waiting for
Speaker 5: your big, heavy hitting attack to come off a cool down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even besides just all that, I like the setup.
Speaker 2: I like having it all take place in this city
Speaker 2: that's you know, big enough. It's on some giant city
Speaker 2: or something like that. But it certainly gives me enough
Speaker 2: to explore. I like the kind of during the day
Speaker 2: that's when you're doing maybe missions and catching Pokemon. Then
Speaker 2: at night that's when they're doing your train the diviyas
Speaker 2: the Doug zones, right, there's kind of like a nice
Speaker 2: formula to that that feels really good.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that in a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: this is a really nice direction. You know.
Speaker 2: I don't know if, like if all this is going
Speaker 2: to be taken to the main series. I don't know
Speaker 2: if I need it to, but I think I definitely
Speaker 2: like that in the Legend stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was kind of already turned onto this because
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the last one quite a bit, and then
Speaker 1: hearing Mike told me about the combat system, the real
Speaker 1: time combat system, and just like him giving the reason
Speaker 1: why now he can use Leer, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's something that always bothered me, So yeah, let's go
Speaker 1: see this for myself. And it's all true. You're going
Speaker 1: in there like okay, yeah, but the other thing's on
Speaker 1: cool down. This will be a great thing to use
Speaker 1: right now. It just feels more engaging in some ways,
Speaker 1: and I hope they like find ways to loose some
Speaker 1: of these ideas back into the main game, even if
Speaker 1: they keep it turn based. I have no problem with turnbased,
Speaker 1: but they got to figure out some other way to
Speaker 1: get mixed in these other moves in the story mode.
Speaker 1: But whatever. For this game, it's like I also was
Speaker 1: really impressed with the way it looks now there are obvious,
Speaker 1: like just real limitations. The background of the city being
Speaker 1: a jpeg on a wall is absurd. But I do
Speaker 1: come to Pokemon games because I think Pokemon are cute.
Speaker 1: I think that these are good character designs for the
Speaker 1: most part. Some of the later evolutions often like miss me,
Speaker 1: but like pan Sham, like him running through the city.
Speaker 1: He just robbed the louver or something and he's running
Speaker 1: out for running through the streets, and I'm like, that
Speaker 1: is just cute. I'm having a good time chasing this
Speaker 1: little freak, And so I think they nail that side
Speaker 1: of it in terms of the visuals, and so it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like looking at it, and I'm really enjoying playing it.
Speaker 1: I think the last lack of voice acting is kind
Speaker 1: of absurd at this point.
Speaker 5: It's awkward. It's awkward. It just seems like the one
Speaker 5: big like presentation thing that like everyone knows is and
Speaker 5: has a problem with including me.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's because it's like they don't even do
Speaker 1: the animal crossing blah blah blah. There's no there's no
Speaker 1: sound when the characters are speaking. It's just silence and
Speaker 1: text and their mouth moves and that it's it's a
Speaker 1: bad combination. It's got a bad look, bad feel, and
Speaker 1: I think the you know, the actual baseline, there should
Speaker 1: be there should be voice acting. This game should have
Speaker 1: voice acting. I know other Nintendo games, Zelda continues to
Speaker 1: get away get away with it for whatever reason. It
Speaker 1: doesn't bother me in the Zelda games really bothered me here,
Speaker 1: but that was kind of the one n If you're
Speaker 1: playing this game in bed while watching long YouTube videos
Speaker 1: about playing every Simpsons game, that's kind of any voice acting.
Speaker 5: It's the thing I was thinking of when Mike was
Speaker 5: talking last week about the voice acting in U Trails
Speaker 5: in the Sky being maybe subpar, and it's like, well,
Speaker 5: I guess sometimes it's a plessing in disguise, but yeah,
Speaker 5: it should not be the case for sure. Like and
Speaker 5: as we know, because of the leaks, that was a
Speaker 5: budget thing and like clearly like the cuttings are even
Speaker 5: animated as if there should be voice acting. Yes, even
Speaker 5: if you like insist on pulling a constraint in their
Speaker 5: development do the persona style thing. Big major cut scenes
Speaker 5: are fully voiced then like the efforts, you know, like
Speaker 5: the yeah okay when like other like dialogue boxes.
Speaker 2: It was definitely most impart the beginning when it was
Speaker 2: like this you know, animated cut scene.
Speaker 1: It was still just the die.
Speaker 2: And everything, like like got Steve down at the officers
Speaker 2: to come in and record some lines.
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's also a bit, quite a bit
Speaker 1: of just talking in general and delaying the gameplay. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe it's not it's not so much that I'm not
Speaker 1: going to keep playing the game, but it is quite
Speaker 1: a bit that I do feel like it's a half
Speaker 1: to get through blank all right. Yeah, it's not as
Speaker 1: bad as Pokemon can be. But because they established this
Speaker 1: system of like, hey, get so many battles and you
Speaker 1: can do a rank match, I almost wish they really
Speaker 1: lead into that and it was just almost entirely that
Speaker 1: and I didn't have to worry about this kind of
Speaker 1: larger story thing. Maybe that's you know, wishful thinking here,
Speaker 1: So that's like I don't even know it's a complaint,
Speaker 1: that's maybe just a criticism. It doesn't feel like there's
Speaker 1: a ton of Pokemon to catch, especially early on. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's another because you have like these zones where the
Speaker 1: Pokemon are, and each of them will have like six
Speaker 1: or seven or eight Pokemon to catch there. That's it.
Speaker 1: So I felt like I didn't have a ton of variety.
Speaker 1: Oh I said six have it? Oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: like what is Backlard doing?
Speaker 4: Literally Cartman in the New South Park.
Speaker 3: Dylan's Dylan scored over the weekend and celebrated with a sixth.
Speaker 1: And sean, this might shock you, but I still do
Speaker 1: not love mega evolutions.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, because you're a bad person with bad opinions.
Speaker 5: We know.
Speaker 1: This game emphasizes them so much that it's just a
Speaker 1: Pokemon your party who can't mega evolve. It kind of
Speaker 1: feels like a little bit of a of a of
Speaker 1: a wasted slot sometimes like this.
Speaker 5: As it is, because those are inferior pokemone you should
Speaker 5: put the cool ones on your team.
Speaker 1: I don't, but I'm not. I want this Pokemon and
Speaker 1: it's not my fault. They don't bother designing a mega evolution.
Speaker 5: Well that that's The thing though, is that you also
Speaker 5: have to remember the target audience. The vast majority of
Speaker 5: people love mega evolution, like then think it's the coolest,
Speaker 5: Like if you're gonna have a gimmick, If you're gonna
Speaker 5: have a gimmick, this is the one to have though,
Speaker 5: because you know it's temporary, but you get cool design.
Speaker 5: It doesn't get in the way of very thing, and
Speaker 5: it leads them to do cool stuff like that. Basically,
Speaker 5: the raid battles that are in here you don't have,
Speaker 5: like they've had dumb versions laught for the past few games,
Speaker 5: and like no taking down a Pokemon that uh didn't
Speaker 5: want to mega evolve, It just like happened, and you're
Speaker 5: trying to solve the mystery of why that happened. That's
Speaker 5: also like a good story beat by the way, The story,
Speaker 5: like if you're paying attention, is kind of interesting because
Speaker 5: it's weirdly political, Like it's very much about like local
Speaker 5: politics of I don't think they should be turning you know,
Speaker 5: this this street into like a wild zone for Pokemon
Speaker 5: to rome free, don't you agree, Tyrannatar.
Speaker 1: It's just like what there's Nimby's not my backyard, all right,
Speaker 1: let's go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's it's interesting if you're like looking like
Speaker 5: if you're paying attention to the main story and you're
Speaker 5: looking at all the little dialogue boxes that pop up
Speaker 5: better as you're walking around, there's there's there's telling an
Speaker 5: interesting story here, and people say that does get kind
Speaker 5: of interesting towards the end. So I'm I'm wondering about that.
Speaker 5: I'm curious where it goes, Like you did bring up that. Yeah,
Speaker 5: there's the day night cycle. During the day, you're exploring
Speaker 5: the city and you're catching Pokemon in the wild zones,
Speaker 5: which are kind of like thanctuaries, almost like zoos almost
Speaker 5: where you go in there, Pokemon are roaming free Indian catchum.
Speaker 5: That night, it goes into the Za Royale, where it
Speaker 5: is a bal royale and the goal of the game.
Speaker 5: The reason it's called ZA is because you're buying the
Speaker 5: ranks from Z to A. I think they undersold how
Speaker 5: interesting that system is. That's because yeah, like, first of all,
Speaker 5: it is a bow royale, like so you have real
Speaker 5: time combat and you're just like fighting all these different
Speaker 5: people as you run down the street, and it's pretty
Speaker 5: fast paced. But I think there's also two different levels
Speaker 5: to it, where people who are you know, it's kind
Speaker 5: of like we're talking about Ninja Guide and two different
Speaker 5: levels of like people who are more casual are gonna
Speaker 5: like probably to get that advantage the first striking so
Speaker 5: that they can like have a little bit of time
Speaker 5: to figure out how to best defeat this pokemon they
Speaker 5: don't really know, or the type matchups they don't know,
Speaker 5: where as someone like me or like jan for us,
Speaker 5: we know the pokemon, we know the type matchups and everything.
Speaker 5: It becomes a speed run because you get rewarded at
Speaker 5: the end of the night the more trainers you have
Speaker 5: defeated in the z z A Royal that night. So
Speaker 5: it's not just about getting enough points to get to
Speaker 5: your next promotion match. It's about like defeating as many
Speaker 5: as possible because you get a's like a combo multiplier
Speaker 5: going and stuff. That way, you get more money and
Speaker 5: that you can go around buying cool outfits, buying more
Speaker 5: items for the gameplay, buying more poke balls. Yeah, like
Speaker 5: it all feeds right back into each other. It's really cool.
Speaker 1: Pokemon News.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, sure it's unrelated to this ZA game, but
Speaker 3: do you still want to hear it?
Speaker 2: Let me say one on one thing real quick about
Speaker 2: the whole like structure the ranks, because they also kind
Speaker 2: of like cheap you out on that a little bit
Speaker 2: like no BIGSPLO. There's a there's a part where they're like,
Speaker 2: you're like rank like w and they're like, ah, we're gon,
Speaker 2: we gotta get you off. This is a now match
Speaker 2: for rake F and you like shoot past fifteen of them,
Speaker 2: Like I kind of wanted to go up on the ranks,
Speaker 2: but okay, so but so.
Speaker 1: What go ahead? Jure.
Speaker 3: This has been in the rumor mill for many breaking,
Speaker 3: many many months, and I have yet to feel confident
Speaker 3: enough to start talking about it with the confidence that I.
Speaker 1: Believe it is going to happen. Pikag is gay. Why
Speaker 1: would you ruin yours? Was way better?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 1: Act that a lot.
Speaker 3: That's Pikachu's choice when he wants to come.
Speaker 1: Here's the deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Stern Pinball's next game for Q one twenty twenty
Speaker 3: six is most likely Pokemon Pinball.
Speaker 1: Whoa interest? What do you mean interesting?
Speaker 2: You mean holy sad? That's not more like the Gaboy
Speaker 2: Advance game.
Speaker 5: Probably because there's a literal legacy of Pokemon Pinball. I'm
Speaker 5: wondering how much of that is going to translate into
Speaker 5: the board.
Speaker 1: Probably would say zero. O person, I think there's a
Speaker 1: chance they like make it like Pokemon like which what
Speaker 1: is the red and blue? Is that the first pinball
Speaker 1: one was like basically Pokemon pinball and then I did
Speaker 1: ruby and sapphire for the gub sapphire That's what it was. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: You know, you have to They don't make pinball games
Speaker 3: the way video games do that, right, Like they are
Speaker 3: built on very proprietary platforms. They are not you know,
Speaker 3: the assets. It's just not the same thing.
Speaker 1: I know, what would I know?
Speaker 3: Uh so, I look, it's really like is this game
Speaker 3: going to be good? And I'm not worried about the
Speaker 3: theme implementation. I'm sure that's gonna be just fine. I
Speaker 3: don't know, and I hope it's fine for Pokemon sikos Sean,
Speaker 3: I guess you and Jen will have to be the
Speaker 3: test of whether or not it's implementation is have.
Speaker 5: You ever played the Pokemon pinball games the video games? No? Oh, okay,
Speaker 5: I think you're missing out because they do some cool
Speaker 5: stuff with like it's they don't try too hard to
Speaker 5: make a Pokemon game. They try to like have Pokemon
Speaker 5: adapt to pinball mechanics and get some really cool stuff.
Speaker 5: We're like up on the screen, like you'll go into
Speaker 5: catch mode. You need to hit certain things on a
Speaker 5: table like you do in pinball all the time. Sure,
Speaker 5: if you hit enough of those, the Pokemon will unlock,
Speaker 5: and then you hit a point in the center of
Speaker 5: the board and then you catch that Pokemon. And so
Speaker 5: I'm just curious, like how much of that is going
Speaker 5: to be in the board because that.
Speaker 3: I would imagine, Yeah, I would imagine the primary objective
Speaker 3: of Pokemon the pinball game is catching Pokemon.
Speaker 1: I would imagine that is like the only thing.
Speaker 3: And I and I guarantee you they'll probably have like
Speaker 3: you know, the ball on the table. There'll be some
Speaker 3: fun gadget, some fun toys. Again, that's all speculation, but.
Speaker 1: They should, Yeah, just because we're on the topic of pinball,
Speaker 1: they should make a real world pinball game that is
Speaker 1: also a rogue light like you can upgrade your pinball. Oh,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know like how that would work, but
Speaker 1: I guess like physical pinball, Yeah, they have to like
Speaker 1: all of the things would just have to like react differently.
Speaker 1: Depending on the upgrades you got on your or something.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I mean that's you know, there is
Speaker 3: that right like you are stacking combos, you're the current
Speaker 3: ball you have is can be worth more than the
Speaker 3: ball you previously had because of where you've leveled up
Speaker 3: that ball.
Speaker 1: So there is that.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of similarities with like the sort of
Speaker 3: psychology of like points scoring and whatnot.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's all I have to say.
Speaker 3: Q one, you can pretty much lock it in, I
Speaker 3: would say, judging off of some of this reporting coming
Speaker 3: out not totally confirmed, but here Pokemon Pinball, thank.
Speaker 2: You for that the news update. We are of course
Speaker 2: an ally for pimball. We are an ally for Pokemon.
Speaker 2: And speaking of allies, going Dan, sure if you have any.
Speaker 1: Updates about that rock Xbox ally x Oh you're signing
Speaker 1: like something else happened, Dan, What happened?
Speaker 4: I mean, I posted a series of short videos and
Speaker 4: Blue Sky. I have a thing I was dealing with
Speaker 4: the other night where it's just like, oh yeah, gonna
Speaker 4: watch the aw pay per view and I'll play some
Speaker 4: ballpit on my rock ally here and load it up,
Speaker 4: and it's normally it's like Okay, press your finger on
Speaker 4: this h on the fingerprint reader and it loads you
Speaker 4: right in. Oh that's not working great, you need to
Speaker 4: create a pin. Okay, I press that button and the
Speaker 4: keyboard doesn't pop up, and I'm like, okay, I can't
Speaker 4: really type a pen in here. So I'm doing all
Speaker 4: this stuff, trying to like authenticate it through Microsoft Authenticator,
Speaker 4: trying to like I can't attach a Bluetooth keyboard because
Speaker 4: you need to get to the Bluetooth settings, which is
Speaker 4: past the login screen. So I'm just fucking around this
Speaker 4: and then at a certain point, I like restarted, and
Speaker 4: then I'm just pressing the screen to like try to
Speaker 4: enter a pan or something, and it's just getting that
Speaker 4: Windows error noise over and over and over again, and
Speaker 4: it's I just wanted to fucking load this thing up
Speaker 4: and play some ballpit, and just nothing fucking worked.
Speaker 1: So you couldn't. You couldn't like plug in a keyboard.
Speaker 4: I mean I couldn't. At that point, I was like,
Speaker 4: a fuck this, I'm just like I grabbed the steam dock.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is something ading that about. Yeah. At that point,
Speaker 1: I am kind of like that's like it's letting the
Speaker 1: machine win, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Right, it's conscious it could, it knows when it's won.
Speaker 1: I think Dreamcast think I just look.
Speaker 3: I'm with you man, Like again, I I really do
Speaker 3: stand behind the take of like this, it's just the
Speaker 3: portable Windows eleven machine that has a couple of layers
Speaker 3: of uh, you know, Microsoft branding around it, like that's
Speaker 3: it and no until it completely jumps off to a
Speaker 3: forked os version of whatever the fun like you're just
Speaker 3: not going to have the experience you have on on
Speaker 3: on steam Deck. So you know, I've been enjoying it
Speaker 3: it because because again the performances is untouchable, like it
Speaker 3: fucking risks. Which the battery is pretty good too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, batteries great. And we can also say now that
Speaker 4: Ninja guid in four is maybe best examples of like
Speaker 4: I tried to run that on the steam Deck. You
Speaker 4: don't want to go down there, like it'll run kinda
Speaker 4: but like you don't want to play it on there.
Speaker 4: It runs pretty fucking good on the ax Fox ally,
Speaker 4: like I played a lot of.
Speaker 5: Well, to be clear, the ally act, because I think
Speaker 5: that's part of the problem here is like, like I've
Speaker 5: been meaning to get this out there. I think the
Speaker 5: main problem with this product is just say, like, who
Speaker 5: is this for? Type of situation? Because on the one end,
Speaker 5: because they it's not just the Alix that's what most
Speaker 5: people are reviewing, but is also the regular ally at
Speaker 5: six hundred dollars, it's you know, the more it's like
Speaker 5: a beefed up steam Deck in terms of specs. You know,
Speaker 5: it's it's the same tear ish but it is more powerful.
Speaker 5: But so who are they trying to go for with this?
Speaker 5: Are they trying to go for the casual audience and say, like, hey,
Speaker 5: you know there's been the switch, the PlayStation portal and everything.
Speaker 5: Finally we had the Xbox handheld and you have the
Speaker 5: option of yeah, six hundred ards, it's you know, it's
Speaker 5: more reasonable. And then if you want the premium one
Speaker 5: a thousand, are they going for that audience or is
Speaker 5: it for like the hardcore audience who's like listening to
Speaker 5: these podcasts and everything knows everything about this, knows that
Speaker 5: it is a Windows handheld. But that's that's also like
Speaker 5: what you're going after an audience of like a few
Speaker 5: one hundred thousand people total that seems is guided when
Speaker 5: you are behind and are trying to reinvent yourself.
Speaker 3: Well, so so we kind of figured it out live
Speaker 3: on stream, right. So one, there's the Jeff Grubb perverts
Speaker 3: of the world who are just going to buy this
Speaker 3: because they can't help themselves and they're just might need
Speaker 3: the best thing because yes, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Exactly.
Speaker 3: I fell into this weird category of like, hey, I
Speaker 3: have a Steam Deck, but I do want to access
Speaker 3: epic my Epic games, and I want to access my
Speaker 3: Xbox PC Game Pass games.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, this is doing the thing
Speaker 1: for me. And then I think.
Speaker 3: Number three is this like you know, idiot brain where
Speaker 3: you're like, what, Xbox has a portable, I'll just buy that,
Speaker 3: which is misguided of course those people.
Speaker 1: It's an Xbox.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an Xbox kind of in name only, right.
Speaker 5: So that's that is kind of part of the problem though,
Speaker 5: is like because I know some people were like, oh,
Speaker 5: like who would even be looking at this and doesn't
Speaker 5: know that only plays PC games, and that I would say, well,
Speaker 5: remember they're saying it's an Xbox, and I don't mean
Speaker 5: that in the sense of like, oh, like you can't
Speaker 5: expect it to run three sixty games. It's still just
Speaker 5: a Windows PC sure, But also like someone could buy
Speaker 5: a game as recent as Elder Ring on their Xbox
Speaker 5: that will not run on here because that is not
Speaker 5: a play anywhere.
Speaker 1: Grand the thought of six is not going to run
Speaker 1: on this Xbox.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, exactly, like any Xbox console game that is
Speaker 5: not play anywhere will not run on this thing that
Speaker 5: they're calling an Xbox. Which that's to me, that's the
Speaker 5: actual problem. Like I saw in a comment I think
Speaker 5: it was retro game course video, maybe it was ours
Speaker 5: where someone was like, I have about three hundred games
Speaker 5: in my Xbox library, only about fifteen and run on
Speaker 5: this thing. And ye, that is the problem when people
Speaker 5: actually get them in their hands.
Speaker 4: I think, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know it's funny because like we've
Speaker 3: definitely unpacked that talking point a bunch and I you know,
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I know that because I know
Speaker 3: it because I'm very ingrained.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: The situation is when you put that, when you step
Speaker 3: outside of that sort of vacuum that I exist, and
Speaker 3: you're like, oh my god, that is so insane. Like again,
Speaker 3: they're not they're not outwardly saying there. I don't think
Speaker 3: there's necessarily this like nefarious deception campaign at play right,
Speaker 3: because it's not like they're like but but on the
Speaker 3: other hand, it's like, you have this brand thing, you
Speaker 3: have this thing called Xbox that is now incredibly fragmented
Speaker 3: literally like you know, to decouple what it means on
Speaker 3: console and PC separate, Like you've just you've just painted
Speaker 3: yourself to such an impossibly you know, decipherable corner. Like sorry,
Speaker 3: I don't know how you can justify talking about this
Speaker 3: without very conveniently leaving out some serious details about what
Speaker 3: this thing.
Speaker 1: Is unable to do. I think the thing is this
Speaker 1: will be a not maybe not short lived, but a
Speaker 1: temporary situation because I don't think any way they launched
Speaker 1: that next Xbox that might be a PC without it
Speaker 1: being able to play Xbox games. I really, I really
Speaker 1: think there will be an emulation layer.
Speaker 5: And yeah, they mean like like this is a handheld,
Speaker 5: so there are going to be some concessions like obviously
Speaker 5: you can't pop a disc in or anything whatever, but
Speaker 5: you can't have the next Xbox console and you clearly
Speaker 5: market it as a console, even you don't use the word.
Speaker 5: You can't have that go out there and then it
Speaker 5: doesn't play Xbox series games like backwards compatibility has been
Speaker 5: Xbox this whole thing. That's why it's all an Xbox
Speaker 5: is because each console just runs. There are exceptions every
Speaker 5: single generation, but it just runs like the games you
Speaker 5: want to play from the last console. That that cannot
Speaker 5: be a case moving forward.
Speaker 1: The crazy thing to.
Speaker 3: Me, greb is like I'm with you, I I fundamentally
Speaker 3: believe that's what this thing, maybe you know, hopefully will
Speaker 3: evolve into. Just say like, if that's the case, though,
Speaker 3: say it, say that there's a path like you will,
Speaker 3: people will buy it, will take your word for it,
Speaker 3: and they will buy this thing preemptively. I'm telling you,
Speaker 3: Like the fact that they're not saying it certainly leaves
Speaker 3: room for uh, you know, worry.
Speaker 1: That sucks.
Speaker 4: And I think too it to Sean what you said
Speaker 4: earlierbout like who is this for?
Speaker 1: Is is for casual?
Speaker 4: It is for hardcore. I think about things like, for instance, Kayla,
Speaker 4: Kayla loves playing video games, which she's never played on PC.
Speaker 4: You know, growing up we never had gaming PCs or
Speaker 4: anything like that, so we were console kids. But there's
Speaker 4: so many games I know she would love and I
Speaker 4: would love to recommend to her, and I've thought before, like, oh,
Speaker 4: you know, a steam deck would be great because that
Speaker 4: is something that like you don't really have to like
Speaker 4: you can play that thing and never go into Linux
Speaker 4: or anything. It's just you download it, you play it,
Speaker 4: it works, Whereas I couldn't do that, Like I don't
Speaker 4: if I gave her a you know, Xbox Rock ally
Speaker 4: or something. It comes with all the hassles of a PC,
Speaker 4: which is the complicated stuff that you don't want. Like,
Speaker 4: that's why the steam deck is so great is you
Speaker 4: can access PC games without a bunch of bullshit.
Speaker 5: So right, that's the problem with it being just Windows
Speaker 5: where I know they you're not gonna have DRF said
Speaker 5: this explicitly, you're not gonna have that seamless experience until
Speaker 5: you have a fork of the OS designed for this.
Speaker 5: But I saw some people saying that as like the
Speaker 5: reason that this is the case over like the weekend
Speaker 5: when people are talking about nah dog, that's the problem.
Speaker 5: That's what all of us who are critically are pointing to.
Speaker 5: If Microsoft is taking partial ownership of this, I know
Speaker 5: it's a partnership, but they're taking partial ownership. You make
Speaker 5: Windows make the fork of the OS designed for this
Speaker 5: don't have Desktop replaced by the Xbox app as the
Speaker 5: desktop shell. Like that's that's a clever way to get
Speaker 5: around it. But then you see things like when Dan
Speaker 5: has tech issues, it's because something broke in that chain
Speaker 5: that you didn't expect. And like the Steam Deck is
Speaker 5: incredible because Valve made Linux accessible, like it just works
Speaker 5: the vast majority of the time. Unlust the game is
Speaker 5: incompatible and they tell you that. And if you want
Speaker 5: to boot in desktop mode to get your epic game
Speaker 5: set up, gog games set up, it's all that stuff
Speaker 5: you can optionally. I just think this hardware could have
Speaker 5: been really cool, especially because the power is there, Like
Speaker 5: it's a very powerful handled and that's awesome. I think
Speaker 5: there's a place for that. They just really fumbled when
Speaker 5: it came to like setting up the OS and then
Speaker 5: marketing it correctly.
Speaker 1: The password issue that Dan had is something I have
Speaker 1: had on the original Asus rog ally because of Windows.
Speaker 1: Since it launched. It's happened about once a week anytime
Speaker 1: I'm using it actively. And the fact that they have
Speaker 1: not fixed that and it still shows up in this
Speaker 1: is kind of that to me, that's the whole story.
Speaker 1: That's all I need to hear to know they're not
Speaker 1: taking this seriously. At one thousand dollars, they're not taking
Speaker 1: this thing seriously. They're not even fixing the base bugs
Speaker 1: that have been in there for literally years. So what
Speaker 1: why should I have any faith that they're going to
Speaker 1: be able to navigate kind of the difficult process of
Speaker 1: building a new either forked version of the OS to
Speaker 1: do this or so I'm new top layer that is
Speaker 1: so well thought out and so integrated into Windows that
Speaker 1: you never have to think about it. I have zero
Speaker 1: faith that they can do that.
Speaker 4: Did you see the videos I posted and I'm blue
Speaker 4: Sky Like it's like there's like four different Windows bullshit
Speaker 4: problems happening simultaneously.
Speaker 1: Yes, And it was just very reminiscent of eighty times.
Speaker 1: Anytime you've like gone online and complained about it, it's
Speaker 1: something like that. It's been happening to me. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The worst part is that it forces you to like
Speaker 3: come to terms once again, to be reminded of just
Speaker 3: how fucking lost Windows is. It's just how off in
Speaker 3: the goddamn middle of the fucking ocean that OS is, where.
Speaker 1: You're just like things used to just work better.
Speaker 3: I didn't have to be reminded of the frustrations like
Speaker 3: I guess you kind of got numb to it when
Speaker 3: you boot up a PC or a laptop where you're
Speaker 3: just like, well, you know, it's Thursday. I guess it's
Speaker 3: time for a fucking typical Windows fuckery and you know, like, oh, this,
Speaker 3: your PC just restarted by itself. It didn't tell you
Speaker 3: it was going to restart. It installed eleven things, and
Speaker 3: now you have to go through this nonsensical onboarding again
Speaker 3: of like.
Speaker 1: You sure you don't want to look up with the
Speaker 1: fucking useless piece of fucking bullshit.
Speaker 3: It's like, stop, you are the most pervasive software company
Speaker 3: on the goddamn planet.
Speaker 1: Leave me the fuck alone.
Speaker 5: And getting that full screen office ad is offensive. Don't
Speaker 5: sell me something. Why I'm logging into my due that's insane.
Speaker 3: I gotta send you this like anti bloat fucking package description,
Speaker 3: the PowerShell thing. Oh my god, what a god send
Speaker 3: friend of the site, Anthony, send it to me and
Speaker 3: the pinball buddy.
Speaker 1: It's like, that's why another reason why I think they
Speaker 1: are infinitely far away from delivering on this concept, because
Speaker 1: there is something so important about picking up a switch
Speaker 1: to and just being like Oh, everything is about funneling
Speaker 1: me into the game, because once I'm in the game,
Speaker 1: this thing works really well. That's true of the of
Speaker 1: the Xbox Rock ally X as well. Once you're in
Speaker 1: the game, it's really great. But I faint that the
Speaker 1: whole experience of like when you pick it up, is
Speaker 1: not about making that as simple as possible. Just they
Speaker 1: do not understand the importance of that intimate connection you
Speaker 1: have between yourself and a gaming device that you're holding.
Speaker 1: That's pretty special, and they kind of don't respect that
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 5: Like, like you said, it's like a faith thing. I
Speaker 5: don't have faith in them because they kind of keep
Speaker 5: fumbling all the small things and leads up to a
Speaker 5: big issue like this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, their priorities are somewhere else.
Speaker 4: It's aisy, My fingers are crossed, and I'm gonna have
Speaker 4: a better time with I've got a DHL truck that
Speaker 4: is two stops away with the ay n thor so.
Speaker 1: I w okay.
Speaker 4: Mess around that quite a bit and hopefully that's a
Speaker 4: better experience.
Speaker 1: All Right, that's it for games and hard We've been
Speaker 1: checking out. Only take a quick bricky break. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back with the news. Stay tuned everybody. What's that?
Speaker 1: Can you hear that? Folks?
Speaker 4: It's oh god, it's coming down the pike. It's the
Speaker 4: Giant Bomathon. My good news, folks. We are one week
Speaker 4: away or less, depending on when you're hearing this. That's right,
Speaker 4: The Giant Bombathon is coming your way live from the
Speaker 4: East Coast five pm Eastern on Monday October twenty seventh
Speaker 4: to five pm Eastern on Tuesday, October twenty eighth. Take
Speaker 4: Tuesday off, listen. We had to do this on a
Speaker 4: Monday night. We know it's during the week. Take Tuesday off.
Speaker 4: Take it off now, get your request and that's right.
Speaker 4: Twenty four hours of local multiplayer Shenanigans, gimmicks, fun, Hullablu,
Speaker 4: all this uff, Pyro Balley who know no Pyro. We
Speaker 4: have the confetti cannon. Last time that didn't work. Well,
Speaker 4: We're gonna have a lot of fun, folks. It's gonna
Speaker 4: be the five owners of Giant Bomb you know who
Speaker 4: we are. And we also have Chuck and Sean flying
Speaker 4: out to join the festivities. That's right. Remember Monday at
Speaker 4: five pm and to Tuesday at five pm. Take Tuesday
Speaker 4: off work. We're gonna be there live on Twitch, on YouTube.
Speaker 4: Check us out. It's going to be a lot of
Speaker 4: fun and we'll make it worth your while. We got
Speaker 4: some incentives, we got some we got some stuff you
Speaker 4: might like to see. I got things. I'm biting my
Speaker 4: tongue on. I'd like to say some of these incentives,
Speaker 4: but you'll have to tune in Monday night, five pm Eastern.
Speaker 1: Be there the Giant Bamathon.
Speaker 2: Before we get into the real news, I have my
Speaker 2: own breaking news for Jeff Grub You're pregnant. No, I'm
Speaker 2: productive first, and fantasy credit because they took aided four
Speaker 2: got me good amount points, has an eighty two and
Speaker 2: open credit, which but from what I play, i'd say
Speaker 2: a little bit better.
Speaker 1: But who knows. I got to play more of it.
Speaker 1: But I was the only one here with the foresight.
Speaker 2: To think that maybe Jurassic World Evolution three might do decently.
Speaker 1: With reviews, and that has an eighty five.
Speaker 5: Right now, Okay, I got you definitely the only one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got some Jurassic World points on my side.
Speaker 4: Now I signed for that thor I'll be right back,
Speaker 4: all right, go for it.
Speaker 1: So there you go. I'm sitting pretty right now projected,
Speaker 1: but just a little bit. It kind of seems to
Speaker 1: be well, Sean has a shot here, but it definitely
Speaker 1: is Jeff and I favored the most right now, and
Speaker 1: is gonna come down to It's gonna come down to Metroid.
Speaker 1: If Metroid does very well, I probably win. If it
Speaker 1: kind of does anything beneath that, I think it's all you.
Speaker 1: I I have age of imprisonment, which is a little
Speaker 1: risky because I'm like, I don't know, maybe that'll, maybe that'll.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna lose points with it.
Speaker 5: I don't think that's skipping below seventy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been.
Speaker 3: I think I give you a run for your money
Speaker 3: if I didn't fucking counterpick blueprints like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dumb, yeah, the gate back, Yeah, I haven't heard
Speaker 1: of this one.
Speaker 3: And she was like, you done fucked up.
Speaker 5: It could have been really stupid and pulled a bonehead
Speaker 5: move like counterpick out metro Prime four or something.
Speaker 1: Couldge moron. That'd be absolutely ridiculous, all right. Jeff played
Speaker 1: me as a get to the news. Oh, it's fun
Speaker 1: to be able to tell you to do things then
Speaker 1: you do them. We'll get used to it, don't you.
Speaker 5: Doesn't he always do that like a chicken.
Speaker 1: Cluck cluck, cluck, cluck. All right, I have some news
Speaker 1: here at the news roost block Black. Let's start here
Speaker 1: with Nintendo's second Kirby air Riders direct is this week
Speaker 1: and will last an hour. It's longer sixty human minutes
Speaker 1: of Kirby air Riders information from Sakkarai himself. What the
Speaker 1: hell it's October twenty third, at six am Pacific time,
Speaker 1: nine am Eastern. Yeah, that game's out November twentieth for
Speaker 1: seventy dollars, So they're like, yeah, we really got to
Speaker 1: talk talk this up. I'm shocked though, that it's even
Speaker 1: longer than last time. Remember our idea of having only backlreact,
Speaker 1: But I don't remember that. No, I don't know what
Speaker 1: the hell you're talking about. Maybe you keep talking about
Speaker 1: if you're funny, Jeff, if it's not all of us
Speaker 1: reacting to this thing, which, you know whatever, We're probably.
Speaker 2: Just gonna get on tangents to talk about our own
Speaker 2: bullshit because it's very long.
Speaker 1: What Phiel, is only you reacting to this Kirby racing
Speaker 1: game deep dive for an hour. I could not think
Speaker 1: of something that would be more of a waste of time.
Speaker 1: Let me stand, do you think it's funny if only
Speaker 1: Jeff Bakalaw reacts to this hour long Kirby Air Riders presentation.
Speaker 4: The answer is so obvious to that that it's almost
Speaker 4: insulting that you asked that.
Speaker 1: And would you have to be surprised that we have
Speaker 1: to commit to someone? Jeff, Yeah, you're you're exactly right
Speaker 1: for the goode business and what we do.
Speaker 3: And I promise you from a dead ass, serious fucking
Speaker 3: point of view, my time would be better spent doing
Speaker 3: something else than hopefully do that.
Speaker 1: How is that not painfully obvious?
Speaker 4: Whatever you're doing, email or something I can do that.
Speaker 1: Yes, we've we've we've discovered all of these things. We're
Speaker 1: all equally capable of doing. No, absolutely not. What do
Speaker 1: we have to do? What do we have to do? Well?
Speaker 3: I don't know who knows a phone call? Who who
Speaker 3: knows what it will be that will be worth my
Speaker 3: time in by a magnitude of fifty.
Speaker 4: I'll venmo you, you will venmo me?
Speaker 1: What do you mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll pull it together.
Speaker 1: Well, there's a money comes from. There's a number, there's
Speaker 1: always a number. Writers. The idea would be funnier than
Speaker 1: the execution edy.
Speaker 4: It will be really funny.
Speaker 3: It would, yeah, it would be funny, be like, oh wow,
Speaker 3: do you see that grown ass man have a mental
Speaker 3: breakdown on switch?
Speaker 1: Did you see that? They gotta just talk about everything
Speaker 1: that's in this game, like every character, every read, did
Speaker 1: they find a third button or something?
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm with I'm with Mikey though. I do think
Speaker 3: on paper this is hilarious, like without.
Speaker 4: A doubt to do the two hour pre show for
Speaker 4: the last one, right, maybe a two hour pre show.
Speaker 1: Leave and back cours there alone. Yeah, and then we
Speaker 1: became millionaires.
Speaker 5: That was it.
Speaker 1: That was the moment all changed for us. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: going to talk about everything I think games. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: vgc's hand hands on did suggest the game is deceptively deep,
Speaker 1: very deceptive for to be another wanted to be too deep.
Speaker 1: That's part of the charm of Kirby Air Riders that
Speaker 1: it was a one button game. Now I will allow
Speaker 1: the second button. That's fine. I don't want too much
Speaker 1: to depth in this baby.
Speaker 5: Are you a big Kirby a Ride fan, Mike?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: If I call myself a biger ill everywhere else everyone else.
Speaker 1: I think it's a good game, which is like a
Speaker 1: bridge other people will cross. I suppose it is funny
Speaker 1: that like this is the bit, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: it's funny that this is the bit.
Speaker 3: That it's like, oh, we're gonna give you like so much,
Speaker 3: so much more than you could possibly need about this.
Speaker 1: It's a good funny.
Speaker 4: It's honestly very good.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I mean part of it's definitely still sucker.
Speaker 1: I is, he has that sway and they kind of
Speaker 1: wanted to keep him happy. But I think they're also
Speaker 1: like that last game maybe underperformed, so it's like, really
Speaker 1: go out there for this one. Tell you what, if
Speaker 1: this one doesn't do well, it will not be for
Speaker 1: lack of them trying. They have made the effort here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I looked like I did not like Herbieerra the first,
Speaker 5: but this one, I'm in full support of this because
Speaker 5: like love soccer, I do whatever hell he wants. The
Speaker 5: man's earned it. You want one passion project on the
Speaker 5: company's dime, Take one my man.
Speaker 1: Absolutely uh next gen Xbox console plans heading into twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six. Sarah Bond commented on these. She after talking
Speaker 1: about the handheld stuff and like kind of you know,
Speaker 1: talking like saying, oh, yeah, we definitely have a lot
Speaker 1: of ideas still for improving the rog Xbox ally X.
Speaker 1: She went on and confirmed the Xbox it's still actively
Speaker 1: developing its next generation console. The follow ups to the
Speaker 1: Xbox series X and S. They you know, they didn't
Speaker 1: really give too many details again, but she did continue
Speaker 1: to point to that AMD statement that Microsoft or that
Speaker 1: Xbox and AMD made a previously where they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're developing a new chip and we are gonna have
Speaker 1: backward compatibility. Like so they said, like whatever they end
Speaker 1: up doing, if it is going to be this PC thing,
Speaker 1: it will have some sort of backward compatibility. But this
Speaker 1: is her reiterating this once again as there have been
Speaker 1: questions around the future of Xbox and how committed they
Speaker 1: are to any of this, and every time they're sort
Speaker 1: of put in a corner to ask that sort of thing,
Speaker 1: this is how they respond. I do we buy that
Speaker 1: this is something that they are taking seriously over at
Speaker 1: Microsoft or does it feel like well, of course Sarah
Speaker 1: Bond takes it seriously, but maybe the people above her
Speaker 1: could undercut this thing.
Speaker 5: I think that second, I mean the ladder there is
Speaker 5: what's maybe going on there. Clearly Microsoft as a bigger company,
Speaker 5: their focus is elsewhere, as you said, And yeah, at
Speaker 5: this point, it really just comes down to you, like
Speaker 5: we said, faith, Like, Okay, you're gonna have this more
Speaker 5: PC style box that's mostly up to rumors at this point,
Speaker 5: by the way rumors and reporting. But if you're gonna
Speaker 5: have this more PC style box that will have backwards
Speaker 5: compability with Xbox games, it's just a disconnect of well,
Speaker 5: why didn't you do that for the handheld that you
Speaker 5: just launched, because that right have gone something a long way. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 5: like you gotta do something there. So it's the idea
Speaker 5: of it is cool, I mean honestly, like you know,
Speaker 5: I was dump by an Xboxer in a segment, but
Speaker 5: their ecosystem is my favorite of the big three right
Speaker 5: now because they let me use the hardware that I
Speaker 5: want to except for when they don't apparently so oh no,
Speaker 5: my I was actually like mildly interested in what this
Speaker 5: console could be. But you know, the launch of this
Speaker 5: new hardware has my faith waning a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and of course, uh, you know, price increases, inflation,
Speaker 1: all those things continue to cause various headaches for just
Speaker 1: the current gen of hardware where it's like the Xbox
Speaker 1: series X and S have gone up in price multiple times,
Speaker 1: especially in the United States, but around the world, and
Speaker 1: so it's like, what is what is the pricing even
Speaker 1: going to look like for an XT gen Xbox. I
Speaker 1: think everyone is expecting the absolute worst there, right, We're
Speaker 1: talking about like a flour of seven hundred dollars. Even
Speaker 1: that feels unlikely. It's like, maybe we're talking about eight
Speaker 1: hundred dollars and maybe the like the real version you
Speaker 1: want to get is one thousand dollars, eleven hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Like these are things that people have actually said to
Speaker 1: me when we had these conversations. And meanwhile, everything's still
Speaker 1: going up in price, including the Xbox development kits, which
Speaker 1: have they just announced have increased the price from fifteen
Speaker 1: hundred dollars to two thousand dollars, and they it just
Speaker 1: mean reflects macro economic developments. We remain committed to providing
Speaker 1: high quality tools and support for your development efforts, and
Speaker 1: these are these are the kits that like, you know,
Speaker 1: they get you like licenses and all that stuff. So
Speaker 1: they were always kind of expensive at fifteen hundred dollars,
Speaker 1: but maybe it's not expensive relative to previous development kits,
Speaker 1: but now you know, even these things are getting hit
Speaker 1: by price increases. You need people to make games for
Speaker 1: your platform, right, yeah, yeah, part of it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's also weird. I didn't realize that they
Speaker 5: were fifteen hundred because I thought because they don't think
Speaker 5: call well, yeah, don't they call the alternate mode on
Speaker 5: Xbox the developer mode? And that was kind of the appeal,
Speaker 5: is that that's twenty.
Speaker 1: Dollars to unlock that. So this must have some other
Speaker 1: feature that worked, Like maybe it has more fully fledged
Speaker 1: out a development kit aspect to it, you.
Speaker 5: Know, a dedicated dev kids well, like a Triple A
Speaker 5: studio is going to use sure, and so I guess
Speaker 5: maybe they're getting a little more money from those places.
Speaker 1: But how many of these do they even?
Speaker 5: So I just exact strange.
Speaker 1: Markup right, Yeah, definitely, it's like, yeah, every dollar you raise,
Speaker 1: this reduces the number of people who are going to
Speaker 1: be making games for your system. Something that seemed like
Speaker 1: it might be still be important to you at one point,
Speaker 1: maybe not so much in this moment. You know, I
Speaker 1: think maybe that's something they're not They're less worried about
Speaker 1: if they are kind of going to go to the
Speaker 1: PC route, which would, like you said, show me like
Speaker 1: that rumor it's the reporting. We still don't know for sure.
Speaker 1: They have not said that, but if they do go
Speaker 1: that way, maybe that kind of gets them out of
Speaker 1: this where it's like any PC game can just work
Speaker 1: on this new Xbox and that's what we want. So
Speaker 1: we'll see. Uh. The Simpsons is reportedly coming to Fortnite,
Speaker 1: including an entire Springfield map. That's that's the thing that
Speaker 1: really made me do that same sound right there. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's a cool place, Homer. Wait, Springfield map, that's brilliant.
Speaker 4: That's awesome. Play virtual Springfield all the time. That was
Speaker 4: barely even a game. I just want to see Springfield,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: I was about to.
Speaker 2: Say, Dan, I just watched a two hour video about
Speaker 2: virtual Springfield last night. I loved Virtual Springfield. So yeah,
Speaker 2: just walking around Springfield is actually fun. I mean, that
Speaker 2: was a big part of the appeal of the car
Speaker 2: game that everybody liked hitting.
Speaker 4: The road, rage and hit and run.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: I'm in that's I mean, man, I haven't played much
Speaker 4: Fortnite in quite a while, but moment look that sounds fun.
Speaker 4: That's great. I wonder if it's going to be like
Speaker 4: it's a separate map.
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 4: Or is it a part of the large.
Speaker 1: Time go ahead, like you're trying to read it out here.
Speaker 1: It's like the extensive crossover, which includes a cell shaded
Speaker 1: Springfield Nuclear power Plant, is a rare occurrence for Fortnite,
Speaker 1: as most collaborations are limited to skins and items. Uh
Speaker 1: so it makes it sound like they're going to be
Speaker 1: implanting Springfield kind of into the current mass in some way,
Speaker 1: is what's right? They usually do?
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I want to do like zero build. I
Speaker 4: want to play normal like. I don't want it to
Speaker 4: be a side mode thing like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that'll get that. I'll get me in. I'll play that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, drop it at most boys, let's go, do you guys?
Speaker 1: Also see that Futurama total conversion mod for Simpson's Hit
Speaker 1: and Run. Yeah yeah, that's really well, really well done.
Speaker 1: That's a good game. By the way, that's the whole
Speaker 1: Timer license game. Hitten.
Speaker 4: I don't know how I never played Hit and Runner
Speaker 4: road Rage like it's a genre I like Console I
Speaker 4: loved with my favorite license pretty much ever, like, yeah, if.
Speaker 2: You played hit and Run, God, I gonna need to
Speaker 2: remember this next time. I can maybe give you a
Speaker 2: punishment because if you played hit and Run right now,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: You love it.
Speaker 4: Run a road rage, which one's reach just.
Speaker 1: A crazy taxi like, but hitting run it's like a
Speaker 1: it's like GTA but instead of yeah, but instead of
Speaker 1: like doing the shooting, it's like there's some platforming that
Speaker 1: you sure times that sounds great.
Speaker 4: Man, I gotta I gotta tank the next punishment thing.
Speaker 4: I gotta lose the only way I can play it. Yeah, Wow,
Speaker 4: you won one.
Speaker 1: You won one. You're very good at Tony Hawk. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what you were the best I see? Thank you. Wow,
Speaker 1: Yeah it was impressive. Resident Evil zero remake casting seemingly
Speaker 1: found as lead actor refers to Project Chamber in his resume.
Speaker 1: People believe that that reference is Rebecca Chambers, who is
Speaker 1: the star of Resident Evil zero. This lines up with
Speaker 1: some other rumors out there that this game is one
Speaker 1: of the ones being remade right now, alongside Code Veronica,
Speaker 1: which could come first. That one could come in like
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven, and this one in twenty twenty eight,
Speaker 1: or maybe twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven, although,
Speaker 1: of course Requiem's coming out early next year, so maybe
Speaker 1: this is going to be a little bit further off.
Speaker 1: Resident Evil five continues to not be in active development
Speaker 1: for a remake apparently, which, yeah, that seems like a challenge,
Speaker 1: so they probably want to do all these other ones first.
Speaker 1: We're good. We're good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am glad because I was all worried that
Speaker 2: they would just go to five and brute force that
Speaker 2: and figure stuff out there, which someday they will, They'll
Speaker 2: they'll figure that out, But I was kind of worried
Speaker 2: that they just wouldn't do Zero a Code Veronica, which
Speaker 2: would be a shame. Zero, which is a game that
Speaker 2: very has, like such a good premise, good ideas, and
Speaker 2: some of the execution is just lacking. But remake that,
Speaker 2: Like you know what they've done with these other remix
Speaker 2: Gross Evil two and Resing Before Remix are just some
Speaker 2: of the best games ever. They did such a good
Speaker 2: job with that. Just seeing that treatment give it the
Speaker 2: Zero and to Code Veronica. I am super excited about Zero.
Speaker 4: Could super use it, Like you're right, Like I love
Speaker 4: the concept, the two characters and the train and everything,
Speaker 4: but It's like it just was it was missing something
Speaker 4: for sure, So like full remake treatment sounds awesome.
Speaker 1: For that, uh averageer Frontiers of Pandora. That game is
Speaker 1: getting a free third person moting, a new game plus update.
Speaker 1: They kind of talked about this a little bit before,
Speaker 1: but they re reiterated that it's going to launch in December,
Speaker 1: on December fifth, right alongside Avatar, Fire and Ash. I
Speaker 1: guess I did want to like ask you guess the
Speaker 1: games like this these like, because we've kind of reached
Speaker 1: the plateau with visuals, kind of a licensed game that
Speaker 1: is a few years older can get a small update
Speaker 1: and maybe ride the excitement for a new movie, especially
Speaker 1: one that's going to be as big as this. I
Speaker 1: think that's a strategy that these companies might be able
Speaker 1: to use going forward. Maybe this one also got like
Speaker 1: a full on expansion of that's coming down in December.
Speaker 5: It's releasing along outside the movie, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's also getting that, which I think. I
Speaker 1: think that's definitely the smart thing to do for this.
Speaker 2: This is a game I actually liked and would like
Speaker 2: to play more of, especially I bet I'll be in
Speaker 2: an Avatar mood after Le's that movie bomb somehow, but
Speaker 2: I don't know. I liked I liked Wave Water so
Speaker 2: much that I'm pretty excited for Fire and Ash.
Speaker 1: But it's work.
Speaker 2: We don't actually get anything of this scale even for
Speaker 2: games anymore, right, even releasing an expansion theme to the
Speaker 2: new movie for an existing game in the IP. Most
Speaker 2: franchises don't have an existing game in that IP anymore.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of like out on an island, and
Speaker 2: I'm glad we still have this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'm glad that they didn't give up on
Speaker 1: this or Star Wars Outlaws so much that they're like,
Speaker 1: when they did have these opportunities, they didn't take them.
Speaker 1: Like it seems like they're like, you know, but this
Speaker 1: will get a some return, and launching Star Wars Outlaws
Speaker 1: on switch to that could probably work, and that did
Speaker 1: work really well, so maybe they're gonna stick with these
Speaker 1: things a little bit longer. I don't expect them to
Speaker 1: go back to the well of doing another licensed game
Speaker 1: like this anytime soon, though, especially having MASSI to do that.
Speaker 2: No way, Yeah, I don't think we're going to get another.
Speaker 2: This might be the last Avatar game like this week ever. Again,
Speaker 2: I think you know, people will kind of keep finding
Speaker 2: it through sales and because of you know, the movie's
Speaker 2: coming out again.
Speaker 1: I don't think this. You know, this game wasn't some
Speaker 1: Gangbusters success, clearly, but it'll have a tail. Warner Brothers
Speaker 1: Discovery puts itself up for sale basically like, hey, there's
Speaker 1: some interest in acquiring us, and we're gonna go back
Speaker 1: out there. And I think they're talking like Larry Ellison
Speaker 1: might buy this as well, because he fucking buys everything else.
Speaker 1: So of course, but you know, Warner Brothers has several
Speaker 1: game developers, another realm that all the DC stuff rock Steady,
Speaker 1: and so they've also been pretty disillusioned with making games
Speaker 1: themselves for a while, even despite having multiple hits. I mean,
Speaker 1: they had the Batman games for a long time, and
Speaker 1: then Harry Potter did very very well for them, and
Speaker 1: then the immediate aftermath of that, they were talking about
Speaker 1: the next Harry Potter game is going to be a
Speaker 1: live service game. Screwmaking the best selling video game of
Speaker 1: the year. We want to do something different next time.
Speaker 1: So they've tried to sell their studios before. They have
Speaker 1: not been able to do that because they weren't selling
Speaker 1: the IP alongside that so yeah, I guess what do
Speaker 1: we do? We think that the video games are even
Speaker 1: going to factor into this at all, into this deal,
Speaker 1: and where like oh yeah.
Speaker 2: A rock Steady, right, because they you know, they're so
Speaker 2: suicide squad ramifications to a lot of things.
Speaker 1: Right. That's like Gossam Knights was much better over on
Speaker 1: that side. Right. It seems like they've been I mean,
Speaker 1: they've been deemphasizing it for a while now, but I
Speaker 1: don't know if they totally crossed the bridge and start
Speaker 1: selling or closing studios off. Yeah. I think they're like,
Speaker 1: it's too big to close down. We need to get
Speaker 1: something back for it. Maybe this is maybe this is
Speaker 1: the opportunity. But I don't think whoever acquires them that
Speaker 1: will actually have any good answers on how to run
Speaker 1: these studios either. That will continue to be a challenge.
Speaker 1: Atari announced the in Television Spirit, a revamp of the
Speaker 1: iconic nineteen eighties gaming console. I guess this reminded me
Speaker 1: that Tommy tall Rico did lose the television game. I
Speaker 1: think they just call it the Amigo now and they
Speaker 1: dropped the intelevision parts. Incredible, that's the whole point I
Speaker 1: thought that was that big, but so too. This thing
Speaker 1: is let's see, it's available for pre order at one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars. It's shipping December fifth as well.
Speaker 1: It's also December fifth. Basically it will play your old games,
Speaker 1: I believe, but you can also install games on it
Speaker 1: and then it's it uses HDMI, so it's an easy
Speaker 1: way to get in television games onto a modern television,
Speaker 1: like a lot of these devices. They've done this with
Speaker 1: their twenty six hundred and other HAI devices recently. Now
Speaker 1: they're just doing it with this. Do we know how
Speaker 1: those sell? I think they I think they seem to
Speaker 1: do Okay. You know, there was a long time where like, uh,
Speaker 1: you could get one of these Atari like joystick things
Speaker 1: that plug directly into your TV with like r RCA cables.
Speaker 1: Those were like popular stocking stuffers for a very long time,
Speaker 1: and I think that that actually probably mostly continues for
Speaker 1: these kinds of things. But one hundred and fifty dollars
Speaker 1: is maybe getting up there where it's like it's it's
Speaker 1: probably for the person in your life that you know
Speaker 1: likes old video games as a gift to give.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not as successful as like, you know, you
Speaker 4: go to Costco and you see all those like you know,
Speaker 4: pac Man tabletop things and everything. Yeah, I just want
Speaker 4: like a cool thing in your house. You just have
Speaker 4: a funness for olled games, Like I think something like
Speaker 4: that would go before, like this is a little more niche,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: Yep? Is this they called the television Spirit or the
Speaker 1: intelevision sprint? You know what? I thought it was the
Speaker 1: Spirit and then I googled it and I and then
Speaker 1: it came up a spirit, and then I but I
Speaker 1: do I had that same question is it called the
Speaker 1: sprint on their website? I think it's the sprint on
Speaker 1: their website? Okay, because I got this from a website
Speaker 1: that from a news story that covered it and called
Speaker 1: it the Spirit, And I was like, okay, so it
Speaker 1: must be right. I think if you look at it quickly,
Speaker 1: it looks like spirit instead of sprint. I guess I
Speaker 1: think it's no right.
Speaker 5: There's a bunch of news stories saying spirit. I think
Speaker 5: they may have misspelled it in the press release because
Speaker 5: like their YouTube channel says print, what's the hell man?
Speaker 1: This is this rules we clarified it. There we go.
Speaker 1: I had that same postion when I was getting this
Speaker 1: story so I'm glad you brought it up. Okay, it
Speaker 1: looks like Sprint is the actual name. Incredible, Okay, I
Speaker 1: mean that's a weird name considering the you know, telephone
Speaker 1: people something.
Speaker 2: The intel is always weird to me because it's like, man,
Speaker 2: I feel old, but there's like a whole other generation
Speaker 2: above me still.
Speaker 1: And I bet you know, if I was there, I
Speaker 1: would love this thing.
Speaker 2: Even looking at it, I still kind of like, eh,
Speaker 2: there is something about the way this thing looks that
Speaker 2: even though I wasn't there, it somehow makes me feel
Speaker 2: a nostalgic wood paneling.
Speaker 1: Very cool.
Speaker 4: Imagine, Mike, I'm with you on like retro stuff, like
Speaker 4: I love it so much. But it is really like
Speaker 4: as soon as you go before the stuff I personally
Speaker 4: grew up with, it's like, well, I'm sure that's important
Speaker 4: or whatever.
Speaker 2: Right, it's pretty. It's like, well you better be some
Speaker 2: like you better be King's Quest or something on PCs
Speaker 2: or medicare.
Speaker 1: Uh. Yeah, I had the Kaleco vision. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: look at that thing, all right, that looks nice, very cool, awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then of course we mentioned it early, but Itagaki
Speaker 1: to Minobu Itagaki did die last week. He was fifty
Speaker 1: eight years old. He uh spearheaded the modern reinvention of
Speaker 1: Ninja Gaiden originally in two thousand and four for Xbox,
Speaker 1: also obviously known for the Dead or Live series. The
Speaker 1: first game he worked on at Techno was Techmo super
Speaker 1: Bowl for Super Nintendo, which was plastic game. Uh so,
Speaker 1: just a legendary career. Really cool guy. I'll mentioned on
Speaker 1: a game Mes Mornings like him. His persona that he
Speaker 1: was very good to portraying was he definitely was putting
Speaker 1: on errors a little bit because there's a lot of
Speaker 1: footage of him before the persona and it's very cool
Speaker 1: to see.
Speaker 4: Like, oh, wearing the cable guy.
Speaker 5: He was like he maybe like to learn that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like I was doing this to get attention
Speaker 1: from the Western press because they like basically like gimmicks
Speaker 1: and it was.
Speaker 5: Charm if you ever really the story of where he
Speaker 5: invited Harada over to Tecmo at one point he like
Speaker 5: invited him. I think it was for Dead or Alive two?
Speaker 5: Is the o A two or three? He invited him
Speaker 5: over and like Harad told the story, it's on Twitter
Speaker 5: somewhere where like he like brings him in and they
Speaker 5: like it's a very serious, like almost confrontational thing where
Speaker 5: like we're walking down the hall, brings him into a room.
Speaker 5: It's like a dark room and he's like here, sit
Speaker 5: and then turns on TV and it's like dead or
Speaker 5: Live two or three. I was like, isn't this amazing?
Speaker 5: And Harda's like, am I mean kidnapter something?
Speaker 1: It's become a made man, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And if you like again, if you see Harada's
Speaker 5: post about this over on Twitter, it's it's so sad.
Speaker 5: I'm not even gonna pull it up because I might
Speaker 5: start tearing up. But it's just like he was very
Speaker 5: obviously like afterwards, you know Itagaki sort of like you know,
Speaker 5: kind of apologized and like they became maybe more like rivals,
Speaker 5: but like a friendship of a type, and it was
Speaker 5: clear that he just like loved why he didn't want to,
Speaker 5: like you know, put on a show for everyone, and
Speaker 5: so yeah, it's it. This is definitely a sad one
Speaker 5: for sure.
Speaker 1: Yep. Definitely. He did put a message and basically just
Speaker 1: said he didn't have any regrets, but he was he
Speaker 1: did have some sorrow about not being able to do
Speaker 1: just one more game. And it's like, that's that's a
Speaker 1: worker right there, that's someone just like they love what
Speaker 1: he was doing. But yeah, I got a lot of
Speaker 1: great games out of him.
Speaker 4: Is there an easy way for us to uh play
Speaker 4: Devil's Third?
Speaker 1: I need you.
Speaker 4: I'm always been very curious.
Speaker 1: There's a way, easy way. Yes, there's there's an easy way.
Speaker 1: And we also have a show where that might make sense.
Speaker 4: We do have a show where that might make sense.
Speaker 4: Maybe I should add something to a doc.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, okay, okay, that does it for the
Speaker 1: news headlines I have. I was going to hand the
Speaker 1: showback over Jan Jan. The show is yours please, Joe, Thanks, Grob.
Speaker 1: Where else a little coffee break here real quick? Like wow,
Speaker 1: nobody say set a clocker else I'll have to uh
Speaker 1: imbibe in alcohol. I wouldn't want to do that. Barbara
Speaker 1: Jan might might disapprove. Actually, Barbara Jan, Barbara jam might
Speaker 1: like that. We'll be right back everybody. It's quick break,
Speaker 1: Well buye.
Speaker 4: Jane doesn't see this.
Speaker 1: That's my pass word again.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, let me just pack into the main pram
Speaker 7: for you. But I'll get you set up.
Speaker 1: Oh Chuck, thanks for the help.
Speaker 7: Can can I return the favor. Actually, Jen, you and
Speaker 7: the folks at home can help me with the new website,
Speaker 7: which we're hoping to launch in December of this year. Wow, neat,
Speaker 7: that's that soon.
Speaker 4: It's soon right.
Speaker 7: Specifically, we need some help with the gb wiki street Team.
Speaker 7: We are rebuilding the wiki as a community for using
Speaker 7: media wiki and PHP, JavaScript, XML templates view js. Do
Speaker 7: you know these words, then we could sure use your help.
Speaker 1: If that's you and you feel like you could help,
Speaker 1: go over to the Giant Bomb discord and find the
Speaker 1: wiki street team channel, or go to BombCast dot com
Speaker 1: slash wiki.
Speaker 7: Thanks Jan, that means a lot.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Chuck emails, You.
Speaker 2: Can send your emails to bombcasts at GiantBomb dot com
Speaker 2: and who knows, maybe we'll read them on the air,
Speaker 2: just like this one from Valerie from Denver says, Hey, Bombers,
Speaker 2: I know Mikey likes pliny click adventure games. I want
Speaker 2: to ask if he's played Poco yet. It's a venture
Speaker 2: game with a gorgeous hand pitted art style where you
Speaker 2: play as an adorable little two inch clown named Poco,
Speaker 2: and it's free. I have no idea why no one
Speaker 2: is talking about it. But it's driving me crazy.
Speaker 1: Please give it. Uh look, I have not played Poco.
Speaker 1: I'm looking it is free. Why is this game just freeze?
Speaker 1: This is a point click adventure game that's overwhelmingly positive reviews.
Speaker 1: Came out in May. Why is this thing free? It
Speaker 1: can't have micro transactionally, this is a point and click
Speaker 1: adventure game.
Speaker 5: Huh, well do that project? You know they made as
Speaker 5: Passion products. Sometimes it does played out for free. It's
Speaker 5: really cool.
Speaker 1: I a two inch clown reminds me. I was playing
Speaker 1: a game for like, I was looking for stuff for
Speaker 1: the Nightmare Block and I found this beat him up
Speaker 1: that is kind of awesome called gour May Warriors or something.
Speaker 1: And I'm playing as this lady who poses and sticks
Speaker 1: her butt out to get her health back or whatever.
Speaker 1: And that's whatever. But I like beat up a Moai statue.
Speaker 1: I think that's how you say it Moi statue. And
Speaker 1: then when that exploded, a tiny little man like and
Speaker 1: it's like a Super Nintendo game or something, so it
Speaker 1: like looked like a Pitfall hairy character. But he was
Speaker 1: like like seven pixels or seven, yeah, seven pixels on
Speaker 1: the screen and he's just start running and started beating
Speaker 1: me up, Like he started fighting back again, and I
Speaker 1: like had to like try to hit him, but he
Speaker 1: was too tiny so it's very hard. So I kind
Speaker 1: of had to like wait for him to jump right
Speaker 1: in front of me and I punched him. Yeah, how
Speaker 1: did you regain your health? But you just post and
Speaker 1: you stick your butt out. Okay, but is it the
Speaker 1: butt out that gives you health or I mean, just
Speaker 1: got a Cami like situation back there. Oh Weggie a Weggie,
Speaker 1: I call him camis.
Speaker 4: For her ass. Oh my god, damn, we can't.
Speaker 1: We can't. All right, anyway, did I know that? Oh
Speaker 1: my god? Alright? Then the next up is from Travis
Speaker 1: we got here. A question says, how old do you feel?
Speaker 4: Hmmm, mentally physically.
Speaker 1: I think I stopped aging like as as a holistic
Speaker 1: person at around like twenty seven ish. I think that's
Speaker 1: like in my head when I think of myself, I'm
Speaker 1: still that person I was when I was twenty seven
Speaker 1: for the most part, like from from just a mental state,
Speaker 1: from like just the way I consider Jeff Grub as
Speaker 1: a picture of Jeff Grub in my head. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: picturing kind of the person I was at twenty seven,
Speaker 1: got it?
Speaker 4: I mean in terms of like interests and tasting things
Speaker 4: and humor and stuff. I feel like I pretty much
Speaker 4: a at like fifteen and have been in print is
Speaker 4: positive forever. But then I have had the actually kind
Speaker 4: of emotional uh oh sure, separate things like that. That
Speaker 4: is a separate thing, so that I feel is proper. Basically,
Speaker 4: I think I'm I'm going back now because I'm getting
Speaker 4: back into a workout thing and everything, so I'm starting
Speaker 4: to feel a little better with that stuff. So yeah,
Speaker 4: maybe thirty.
Speaker 1: How old do you feel? You feel thirty?
Speaker 4: But that's there's so many factors.
Speaker 5: It's like broadly speaking, like like Jeff said, like Jeff grub,
Speaker 5: his head is like a twenty seven year old. Like
Speaker 5: you just think I'm like.
Speaker 4: Lifestyle wise, lifestyle wise let me okay, because I do
Speaker 4: like drinking, so it could be over twenty one. I'll
Speaker 4: say lifestyle twenty three. That sounds like playing video games
Speaker 4: and drinking beer and having fun and stuff.
Speaker 5: That sounds pretty acurate to me.
Speaker 4: Emotionally, I feel like I'm a proper Like you know,
Speaker 4: forty one, I feel like I've an old girl.
Speaker 1: I'm five hundred years old.
Speaker 4: Emotional yeah yeah, and the physically, I'll say thirty.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Mike, I'm curious how you feel.
Speaker 2: I guess I feel thirty eight and I am thirty eight.
Speaker 2: I don't know feel about right. I've had too many
Speaker 2: kolonoscapiece to feel younger than that.
Speaker 1: That's it's just like a good punch lone, yeah right, Like.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, like my mom had to have
Speaker 2: her first, like I don't know first a second one.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're not getting any sympathy from me on
Speaker 2: this one.
Speaker 5: I definitely got you beat here. I don't feel thirty.
Speaker 5: I don't know. Something about that number just feels like, eh,
Speaker 5: you're old as shit, dude. But I know, may like
Speaker 5: twenty five for me, I definitely feel older than just
Speaker 5: like you know, still in my wild teenage years or
Speaker 5: anything like that. But I don't know, thirty hasn't sunk
Speaker 5: in yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think it's there's just a natural
Speaker 1: sort of like you feel like you're changing because you
Speaker 1: are changing. And then at a certain point, like you know,
Speaker 1: they want the Key demo because they still haven't decided
Speaker 1: their their brand loyalties. They don't want older people because
Speaker 1: older people don't change brands. I think there's a certain
Speaker 1: point where, like the change after twenty five ish has
Speaker 1: to be like really driven by a decision to change,
Speaker 1: where as opposed to before that it's just happening all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 4: I would think we are special in like this line
Speaker 4: of work probably changes that because I bet if I
Speaker 4: had never gotten into this line of work and I
Speaker 4: was just working at a call center like I was beforehand,
Speaker 4: I bet I would feel a lot older and beaten
Speaker 4: down by life. I think I think playing games for
Speaker 4: a living has definitely helped me mentally feel very young, you.
Speaker 1: Know, So we can we address this super chat real quick, mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tony Morass is super chat. The Devil's Third is
Speaker 2: on the way, Penis Antonio.
Speaker 1: Antonio, I'm gonna send that back to you when we're done.
Speaker 4: Come on, you can send it to me, Antonio, compose
Speaker 4: my box.
Speaker 1: I think, all right, I'll pick it up and uh
Speaker 1: that I could just give to someone else, so maybe
Speaker 1: someone else could play that. We'll see. Oh boy, all right,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for Tonio.
Speaker 2: Next email here is from Chris from Rhode Island. He says, Hello,
Speaker 2: my wife and girls are away this weekend on these
Speaker 2: unicorn weekends, I always get taco Bell. I ordered too
Speaker 2: much for lunch and had a crunch wrap supreme leftover.
Speaker 2: It feels sacrilegious, but I saved it in the fridge
Speaker 2: for later and then reheated it for dinner. I feel
Speaker 2: dirty as the Taco bell Fishonado.
Speaker 1: I must know from Dan and Free Heating taco bell
Speaker 1: is a no no.
Speaker 2: I'll still vacuum out my car, car seats goldfish and
Speaker 2: all then played eighties two for four hours straight today.
Speaker 1: Help cheers from Chris. Uh Dad, you know you heat
Speaker 1: taco bell.
Speaker 4: It's fine. Not only is it not a no no,
Speaker 4: it is something I specifically do as a strategy. So
Speaker 4: if I'm having a weekend night or whatever, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: be up late having some beers and taco Bell really
Speaker 4: just sinking into all that. I will specifically get stuff
Speaker 4: for the next morning, because then you wake up a
Speaker 4: little bit hungover on a Saturday and they're like, oh,
Speaker 4: fuck right, I have that case of DA and that
Speaker 4: cheesy roll up.
Speaker 5: I like to have two.
Speaker 4: Items in the morning, and the thing is to air fryer.
Speaker 4: Air fryer, air fryer. We were talking about that with
Speaker 4: pizza earlier. Get one of these fucking things. They're cheap,
Speaker 4: they work so fucking well in Taco Bell, I swear
Speaker 4: like a Casadia will sometimes taste better coming out of
Speaker 4: an air fryer. It's a crispier than it will from
Speaker 4: the Taco Bell And.
Speaker 5: Have you Are you much of a Taco Bell breakfast
Speaker 5: person by a chance?
Speaker 4: No, I'll do it on occasion, like if we're like
Speaker 4: doing like a road trip or whatever, and you know
Speaker 4: we just got stop and get some food, I'll get it.
Speaker 4: Like it's fine. They do eggs and shit, yeah, definite,
Speaker 4: like a crunch wrap with eggs in it and stuff
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 5: And I think it's underrated because they like combined the
Speaker 5: breakfast stuff to make Taco Bell things, like, you know,
Speaker 5: a breakfast crunch wrap. Instead of having like the hardshell
Speaker 5: in there, they have a hash brown, like like a
Speaker 5: flat hash brown thing. They do scrambled eggs and cheese
Speaker 5: and stuff and there. I think it's pretty good.
Speaker 4: I mean it's fine, but it's just like every fast
Speaker 4: food breakfast thing. It's like, I'm just like Taco Bell.
Speaker 4: You can order from the main menu during breakfast. I'm
Speaker 4: always gonna just order the lunch stuff. That's why I
Speaker 4: think if I go to McDonald's a breakfast, I'm like,
Speaker 4: I fucking hate this because I can't order quarter pounder
Speaker 4: and fries.
Speaker 5: You know, I don't think mine does the normal menu
Speaker 5: in Wisconsin.
Speaker 4: Actually, it was the last time I had Taco Bell breakfast,
Speaker 4: and then when they had breakfast here.
Speaker 3: You don't like McDonald's breakfast.
Speaker 4: Then it's fine. It is fine. I just I've come
Speaker 4: in terms with my thoughts on eggs now I am.
Speaker 4: I'm not. It's not a phobia thing. It's not a
Speaker 4: gross like you know, I'll eat them, They're fine. I
Speaker 4: just they make my stomach a little bit queasy, and
Speaker 4: I don't particularly love the taste of them.
Speaker 5: Just the sausage muffin by the way, Oh no, that's
Speaker 5: what I do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll just get like a sausage and cheese biscuit
Speaker 4: or a mcgriddle or whatever, and you know, take an
Speaker 4: egg puck out of They're really easy.
Speaker 5: Well that's what that's why I'm saying. Last time we
Speaker 5: talked about it, you're like, yeah, I'll just chuck the egg.
Speaker 5: I'm like, order without the egg. You saved like two dollars.
Speaker 4: Did you check a lot of egg pucks in my life?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did you? Did you say this?
Speaker 3: Someone in chat?
Speaker 1: Becare this?
Speaker 3: U put a quote?
Speaker 1: Did you say this? Just now?
Speaker 3: I've come to terms with eggs.
Speaker 1: Again? I think I've also come to terms with eggs.
Speaker 4: I understand I'm at peace with eggs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, alright, makes sense. But I mentioned cleaning out
Speaker 1: the car.
Speaker 2: Look, I say this as all lot of the people
Speaker 2: with kids, but your cars are it's so disgusting there.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine how many cars.
Speaker 4: Yes, it is terrible.
Speaker 1: It sucks.
Speaker 7: I'm out much.
Speaker 1: I remember those dark days. Man. You know the kids
Speaker 1: still eat breakfast in the van some mornings, and it
Speaker 1: drives me crazy because I'm like, that's what I'm going
Speaker 1: to find whatever that is six weeks from now, no
Speaker 1: matter what I do in this moment to prevent that
Speaker 1: from happening, and the worst get to me. It really
Speaker 1: like it bothers me a lot. Well are they both
Speaker 1: one of Are both your kids in booster seats still?
Speaker 1: Or no? I know they are books there. I got
Speaker 1: some little girls. There's some they're little kids. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: like the their age they are, it's their size, ye
Speaker 1: little kid? So when when did got out of the
Speaker 1: booster seat. That was a revelation where it was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's a little bit more aware of where the trash
Speaker 1: is and like right stuff and there isolated in their
Speaker 1: like little spots and they're kind of helpless in there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I probably know the answer to this.
Speaker 4: But do kids today, Uh maybe this is a specific
Speaker 4: part of the country thing, but like you still ride
Speaker 4: around in the beds of pickup trucks. What it's that
Speaker 4: that Midwest said, what you know, I've never seen that.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. It's super it's super illegal, and it's
Speaker 1: it's like a bad idea, but it was awesome. I
Speaker 1: mean when I was a kid, we would ride around
Speaker 1: in the back of the station wagon and we would
Speaker 1: just be rolling around the.
Speaker 4: Back, i mean, open air, better the truck.
Speaker 1: I'm aware what we were doing that eighties.
Speaker 4: Still you were a coastal boy.
Speaker 1: It was It's insane. Man.
Speaker 3: There's people live where I live, like you, Yeah, where
Speaker 3: no one sees you and you can get away.
Speaker 1: With crazy ship you do that. You're crazy, dude, that.
Speaker 4: Where people people live there. It's like that's just the thing.
Speaker 1: People live there.
Speaker 5: I'm sure do you ever, do like you ever do
Speaker 5: like an equivalent though turf like ever like a doubling
Speaker 5: up on seats because we have one too many people
Speaker 5: or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like like like four people in the back, sure,
Speaker 1: but we you.
Speaker 5: Know someone has a truck instead of a van. You know,
Speaker 5: it's Midwest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like four people in the back is
Speaker 3: not even in the same solar system as in the
Speaker 3: flatbed of of a pickup truck.
Speaker 4: Like, You're right, it shouldn't be chat, says Backler, thinks
Speaker 4: everything that happens outside the Tri State area is like
Speaker 4: Narnia or some ship.
Speaker 1: In some capacity. Yeah, you know, I'm not I'm right.
Speaker 1: I think you know, I get it. Answer the question.
Speaker 2: I think you see it much less now. It was
Speaker 2: more acting in certain areas, and it was it's very safe.
Speaker 2: It can't be fun, but it's not safe.
Speaker 1: I mean like like I was like surprised because we
Speaker 1: were in Denver for a long time with the really
Speaker 1: young kids, and it's like everyone had car seats, everyone,
Speaker 1: like especially a kid under fifty pounds for sure. And
Speaker 1: then that's a little bit more r rural here and
Speaker 1: I will drive the kids to school and every kid
Speaker 1: is just no seatbelt, flop around inside the car as
Speaker 1: I'm like, what that's going on? And that's where I've shifted.
Speaker 1: Like as a kid, I was one of those kids
Speaker 1: rolling around the back of the station wagon not thinking
Speaker 1: about anything. But my parents didn't know any better because
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of advancement on advancements on this
Speaker 1: stuff since then, and so now I'm like, well, that's
Speaker 1: just what everyone does, and it's like, oh no, we're
Speaker 1: kind of only people who have their kids like safely
Speaker 1: buckled up in their cars.
Speaker 3: Like I mean, even like if I wanted to go
Speaker 3: to the closest thing to like the Boonies where I live,
Speaker 3: which is like Catskills right like upstate New York, like
Speaker 3: Woodstock like that kind of area.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you would still never see.
Speaker 4: That up there either, and that you know, really the
Speaker 4: boies though that.
Speaker 1: It's rural compared I've seen it at all. It's like kids,
Speaker 1: no way, maybe some like workers or whatever. I've seen
Speaker 1: the like cress down on that kind of thing.
Speaker 3: And also like there's ice, there's snow, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: You're gonna skid out and murder. A bunch of kids
Speaker 3: died when we did that, dude, it doesn't sound like
Speaker 3: they all made it out though, but right, three memories.
Speaker 5: But to be clear, listeners, we are not saying these
Speaker 5: are good things to do. We're just saying they are normal.
Speaker 1: Where it's literally saying it's awesome repeatedly.
Speaker 4: Right now, I'd be like, hold me in the back
Speaker 4: of that truck.
Speaker 1: You know what the problem is now?
Speaker 3: This is like I'm not even really in the same conversation,
Speaker 3: but now, like e bikes are a huge problem.
Speaker 4: Like on bikes, man, yeah.
Speaker 3: Because all that ship is is just like a thirty
Speaker 3: mile an hour fucking you know, dirt mountain bike.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you know. It sucks.
Speaker 3: People are getting killed.
Speaker 1: It sucks. It's insane. Jared from Hamilton, Ontario, Canada says,
Speaker 1: let's move on from dying kids. I didn't bring it up.
Speaker 2: About Rushmore discussions for games doesn't always make sense to
Speaker 2: me as someone who doesn't live in America. I was
Speaker 2: thinking about other styles of ranking, and the Michelin Star
Speaker 2: system seemed fitting. The original intention of the Michelin Stars
Speaker 2: was to indicate a freshant was worth going out of
Speaker 2: your date to drive to up to three stars. So
Speaker 2: Doom twenty sixteen is a three star first person shooter
Speaker 2: we're checking out. If you aren't familiar with the genre,
Speaker 2: also get Michelin stars. To developers, super Giant games would
Speaker 2: be one if at least a couple of starts for
Speaker 2: their consistent quality. Dankes for all the arbitrary rankings you do.
Speaker 2: Jared from Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Speaker 4: This is two different things. I mean, Mount Rushmore is
Speaker 4: like the four kind of staples throughout history of whatever
Speaker 4: topic it is. Where is the Michelin star thing? Is
Speaker 4: just a rating system, Like you know.
Speaker 2: It's not even really a rating system, because you could
Speaker 2: have zero stars and still be a very good restaurant.
Speaker 2: If you have a star, that's amazing, right, That's where
Speaker 2: That's why I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, this Michelin star system is confusing to me a
Speaker 1: little bit, so I don't think it would be a
Speaker 1: very good shorthand. Now, of course, the Aunt Rushmore it's
Speaker 1: also not a good shorthand for a lot of people.
Speaker 1: But it's become one because it's like it is a parlance,
Speaker 1: especially in sports. I hear it all the time. I like,
Speaker 1: how do you get a second Michelin star? Is it? Like?
Speaker 1: Is it? This is even better than a one star
Speaker 1: or is it like, oh you got one one year
Speaker 1: and another one another year. I'm confused. I don't know
Speaker 1: how it was.
Speaker 4: So there's something weird too, because like certain states don't
Speaker 4: have it because like, okay, so Minnesota doesn't have the
Speaker 4: Michelin Guide because they have not expanded the restaurant inspection
Speaker 4: and rating program here. So we have James Beard Awards.
Speaker 4: That's the thing there. It's like it's the same thing.
Speaker 4: It's like it is a it's just a stamp of quality,
Speaker 4: whether it's a Michelin Star or James Beard Award. It's
Speaker 4: just like, hey, people that know their shit said that
Speaker 4: this is a good place you should go out of
Speaker 4: your way to.
Speaker 2: It took me a long amount of time in my
Speaker 2: life to realize that the Michelin Stars were literally given
Speaker 2: out by the tired.
Speaker 1: Micheline because it's worth miss me too. Yeah, And it's
Speaker 1: like the Guinness, the Guinness Book of World Records is
Speaker 1: the Guinness, you know, the company the mixed beer. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's wild all right? Then? From Andreas and Nielsen from
Speaker 1: Sweeten it says, hey, cuties, just wanted to say absolutely
Speaker 1: love you guys. Please don't change a thing. I listening
Speaker 1: to the bomb Cast, where honestly I've lost track of
Speaker 1: how many years Now, lately I've realized I tend to
Speaker 1: skip or just kind of zone out when you talk
Speaker 1: about games, and I'm way more into the parts where
Speaker 1: you're just chatting about everyday life. So that curiosity. What
Speaker 1: do you think would actually keep more listeners A only
Speaker 1: talk about games or B only talking about your or yourselves.
Speaker 1: Big hugs from Andre Snilsen. You kind of do have
Speaker 1: to have both. I know that's not answering the question.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, nobody would just listen to like four randohs
Speaker 2: for no reason talk about the soulsu list. They were
Speaker 2: already the Coon O'Brien can do it right, but us
Speaker 2: people need to hear. But like, if it was only one,
Speaker 2: I think it would have to be about games. But
Speaker 2: it works because you're doing both things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got you get like half of that on
Speaker 1: I guess dumb truck right.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but even then there's like you know, I guess
Speaker 1: we're talking about ourselves a lot. So yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: that is the most just talking about ourselves. That is
Speaker 1: the least video gaming program we do here.
Speaker 4: You never want to sell to people like out like
Speaker 4: people outside of the bubble. Hey, not new games or anything.
Speaker 3: You know, it's a good norm you recommendation and perhaps
Speaker 3: one for our friend from Sweden.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you should listen to the voicemail dump Truck.
Speaker 1: Have you heard of it? More? People should uh start
Speaker 1: their emails with saying, Hey, cuties, I like that. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that really want me? That made me feel good. It's
Speaker 1: gonna going to carry the energy throughout the rest of
Speaker 1: the day.
Speaker 4: I did ask Nicki Glazier this weekend if she'd be
Speaker 4: on the dump truck for you. She's previously said she'd
Speaker 4: be up for it, but turns out she's kind of
Speaker 4: busy right now with the hosting snlle it.
Speaker 1: How about that? So that's this week? What about next week?
Speaker 1: She could promote it.
Speaker 4: At some point she will be on, but she is, uh,
Speaker 4: just continuing to be busier and busier, understand Yeah, asking
Speaker 4: a guest.
Speaker 1: Truck, so I think you would have promote Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: going to be on Saturday nights. Actually, can you can
Speaker 1: you refer that? Can you promote the voicemailed truck.
Speaker 3: Give her a dump Truck shirt for SESSNL.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll work.
Speaker 4: Lauren Lauren loves it.
Speaker 1: Give her a Spoon Heaven stored out giant bomb dot Com.
Speaker 1: All right, I just got my Spoon Heaven shirt and
Speaker 1: I wore it around the house and my kids are like,
Speaker 1: what is is that the game you were playing where
Speaker 1: the people were making all the weird noises for hours
Speaker 1: and hours of why is it spoon Heaven? I finally
Speaker 1: had to explain the joke to my family. Nothing like that.
Speaker 1: Some of you guys that's really said anything. You could
Speaker 1: have said anything. I literally had to explain it to
Speaker 1: a nephew this weekend because my brother.
Speaker 4: Was wearing his What is the with the reaction?
Speaker 1: Just like, oh.
Speaker 4: Reaction somebody could have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, of course they like what they have to
Speaker 1: do with spoon or Heaven. I'm like, oh, that doesn't
Speaker 1: matter around here. Huh Yeah. His shirt, which many people
Speaker 1: have bought, is me just laughing at Jeff Grubb by myself.
Speaker 1: That's the business we're in, Like, yeah, all right. We
Speaker 1: got some super chats too from folks. Let's read those
Speaker 1: until Morali says I will call off work for doctor
Speaker 1: manaughty note. Uh Well, I tell you what. I had
Speaker 1: good access to those on my back. What I needed
Speaker 1: notes they were easy to get.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the first Andrea says, Mike fears mugs.
Speaker 2: But how about giant bomb shot glasses? You all need
Speaker 2: to drink less there.
Speaker 3: But even before my time is probably during your original run, Dan,
Speaker 3: there were shot glasses, weren't there.
Speaker 4: I still have them. Yeah, yeah, they're good. They had
Speaker 4: the tipsy bomb logo and yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe people shouldn't drink water.
Speaker 2: Maybe something we'll do some more we are, you know,
Speaker 2: we're dropping a good amount of merch as part of BOMBA.
Speaker 2: You don't ever want to do too much, but there
Speaker 2: will be some some fun things there. And no not mugs,
Speaker 2: shut up?
Speaker 1: Uh, pixels and thoughts is homemade alcohol? Exciter is the
Speaker 1: best juice? I doubt that. It's got to be so good.
Speaker 1: I love a so good my fridge. Right now, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go get some soons. We're done.
Speaker 2: But the thing about Apple Side, I know is that
Speaker 2: if it's clearer and yellow, you got juice there.
Speaker 4: If it's that brown, you're insider town.
Speaker 1: There you go, you know, I got that part. Don
Speaker 1: Al Grex is coming in late so sorry.
Speaker 2: This was talked about by I need Backlard to play
Speaker 2: Zeno Tilt, the sequel to Demon's Tilt, So I know
Speaker 2: if it's a good pinball game.
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know they made another. Yeah. I saw
Speaker 1: this and I guess I conflated it with Demons Tilt
Speaker 1: and was like, oh, it's just that game, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know it was new. All right, let's uh,
Speaker 1: let's do something there. Hostile pinball action sounds good. That's
Speaker 1: how we describe back hostile. Hostile shirt. I want another shirt.
Speaker 2: I want yeah MiGs, says Jeff Bacala wears DIBs insulting t.
Speaker 1: Shirt for Dan. I'm looking at it like right now, yep,
Speaker 1: like like past the screen. So we can't do I
Speaker 1: don't want to see I don't want to be spoiled.
Speaker 4: So what's I've not seen it?
Speaker 1: Do we have plans? Like I think we have a plan, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's just you know where it's coming
Speaker 3: down to the wire. I do think it will be
Speaker 3: ready by Bombathon.
Speaker 1: Oh so what you're looking at the completed design? Yes,
Speaker 1: it's not been turned into a shirt yet. No, not yet.
Speaker 1: It's it's ready, it's gone. What was the deal there?
Speaker 1: What do I have to wear it?
Speaker 8: Have to wear it for a month. He used to
Speaker 8: wear for a week, right month, you know, either way,
Speaker 8: that's a lot. I think a week?
Speaker 1: We said, right? Yeah, where else again with that sending
Speaker 1: double third our way, thank you so much, Antonio Rio
Speaker 1: Roku says our super touch the pay to win of
Speaker 1: BombCast emails of course yeah, yeah, uh makes He's back
Speaker 1: saying when will you guys be playing Lego Party again.
Speaker 4: Next week?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: That's that one's happening, right. We can just say that
Speaker 2: we're gonna play on the bobon. Yes, we're very excited
Speaker 2: about that. We'll play max turns, which you know, is
Speaker 2: it gonna be super long or anything?
Speaker 1: Right? I believe, but.
Speaker 4: It's pretty long on there. But it says the max
Speaker 4: turn on there is like three hours, but like I
Speaker 4: think they really overstate that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and the level that has the most complicated
Speaker 1: bullshit as well, Like I really want to get into it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it will actually be fun, which is sick.
Speaker 1: Do you think that'll be like a top ten game
Speaker 1: for you? Dan?
Speaker 4: I was looking at my top ten kind of starting
Speaker 4: to get that together, and it's it could be, It
Speaker 4: could be. But this has just been such a wild
Speaker 4: year that I don't know if it's been a long
Speaker 4: I don't know. We'll see. I haven't played enough of
Speaker 4: yet either, so it's something I will be playing for years.
Speaker 4: I'm sure Dan.
Speaker 1: Slam mcausin says, Hey, Mike, I don't think the people
Speaker 1: that only listened to the bomb cast had heard your
Speaker 1: brisket joke yet. No, you're the host. Now, nobody could
Speaker 1: stop you. You're there, You're not the producer.
Speaker 5: To clear Mike, what happened.
Speaker 4: I did not see the dump truck last week, but
Speaker 4: I saw it was the thumbnail. Was there any anything
Speaker 4: of notes with the brisket joke that I missed?
Speaker 1: Is there? I think? I think like we're going around
Speaker 1: just like you know, traumatizing people. Seemed to genuinely be
Speaker 1: a little bit like I'm pretty sure Danika didn't like that.
Speaker 2: Like No, I think I think Denka was just sort
Speaker 2: of like a champ. I did see somebody I forget
Speaker 2: to do it, but somebody chat out a good twist
Speaker 2: on it.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you this?
Speaker 2: And if you were a chat you could speak up.
Speaker 2: I need to come up with a like a naughty
Speaker 2: or more triple X version of the joke. Do you
Speaker 2: though that I can have a Briskee brisket.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god, my god, oh my god.
Speaker 4: Hit the brakes. Here's that goddamn brisket joke. That's right.
Speaker 4: He called Kayla on stream and told the joke what
Speaker 4: she loved it.
Speaker 3: The worst part of your joke is that every time
Speaker 3: you tell it, it grows by thirty seconds.
Speaker 1: But and that's the joke we need to do. To
Speaker 1: get it.
Speaker 4: I need to Mike, just do the brisk version the
Speaker 4: brisk first.
Speaker 1: To say damn.
Speaker 4: He has to like make it a real thing. He
Speaker 4: has to make it like a sexy risky.
Speaker 5: In the moment.
Speaker 1: A right, so living alone and hasn't known the touch
Speaker 1: of a man for a while, a plumber to work
Speaker 1: on her pipes. You seem right there, man, But first
Speaker 1: I've gotta wait for this brisk at the up temperature.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh yeah, you like you're like working on
Speaker 1: on big meat. Huh. He's like, oh yeah, But you
Speaker 1: know the thing about there's two.
Speaker 4: He's laughing. He's making himself laugh.
Speaker 1: There's the fatty part of brisket. And she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I only like the fatty part, if you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. He goes, yeah, I know what you mean.
Speaker 1: You're talking about burn ends And she's like, no, what
Speaker 1: what like, Yeah, you take the fatty part you cut
Speaker 1: up in the cubes and you put it, you put
Speaker 1: it out there on the smoker again, let it all
Speaker 1: teck up. And she's like what And then he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's good. The lean is okay, but it takes you know,
Speaker 1: at least you get feed people to the leans while
Speaker 1: they're waiting for for the burn ends. And she's like,
Speaker 1: ha ha ha, Yeah, when are you gonna get over
Speaker 1: here so we can, you know? And he's like, m
Speaker 1: but don't worry the the the ends will justify the leans.
Speaker 1: And then she hangs up.
Speaker 4: That was criminal, baby, wasn't that, Brisque? I think you
Speaker 4: could do better?
Speaker 1: And then they fucked. Now now I'm back on board.
Speaker 1: You got Alian miracle, says I missed the joke last week. Boo,
Speaker 1: thank you for that jet uh oh the Samo Nicas
Speaker 1: is this Italian brain? Hey everybody, we have a great
Speaker 1: week planned for you all. We still got gay Mess
Speaker 1: Mornings popping off Blake Club as we're turning with more
Speaker 1: of the day Dance of Ruin Days of Dan. What's
Speaker 1: it called Darkest of Dance, Darkest of Dan's everybody can
Speaker 1: we also for the Kirby's air Ride thing.
Speaker 4: I don't know if we even talked about doing a
Speaker 4: talkover of that, Mike, do you think you could do
Speaker 4: a solo one where you maintain a brisket joke the
Speaker 4: entire time?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 4: The challenge out there?
Speaker 1: No look e they were all either were all watching
Speaker 1: that or none of us are. I don't know what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do with that. Yeah, I guess we'll talk
Speaker 1: if we actually want to do a talk over.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you guys, you don't want to do that?
Speaker 3: Come on, we did it before, I know, for the
Speaker 3: first one, the first movie. I'm committed.
Speaker 1: I'm doing it.
Speaker 4: Oh god, when is it am? What would day?
Speaker 1: Thursday? Right?
Speaker 4: Thursday twenty Well, then I actually can't wait eight am.
Speaker 4: Maybe I'll be able to Oh great, have to be
Speaker 4: at a brewery at nine am, as you do.
Speaker 1: I take a couple of quick looks coming your way.
Speaker 1: So everybody some some some new stuff we can play
Speaker 1: for GPF as well. Don't know we can talk about
Speaker 1: that yet, but yeah, you know. And then the Bombathon
Speaker 1: Bombathon next week starting at five pm Pacific, Eastern five
Speaker 1: pm Eastern on Monday, October twenty seventh, and that is
Speaker 1: going all through the night and all through the day
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. It's gonna be a giant drive. Tell all
Speaker 1: of your friends if anybody is interested in supporting us
Speaker 1: or just hanging out with us, we are appreciate it.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be very good. There's just no way looking
Speaker 4: at this run of show that this is not gonna
Speaker 4: be a fun time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people don't have a lot of fun. Yep, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be good stuff. Anything else. Anybody out their housekeeping?
Speaker 1: Are we ready to get out of here? That's good.
Speaker 1: Good job, Mikey, thank you everybody. I do my best,
Speaker 1: and that's that's something. It's the twentieth anniversary of the
Speaker 1: One Up Show today. There you got to the One
Speaker 1: Up Show, Crab.
Speaker 2: I still want at some point, I gotta do some
Speaker 2: kind of I got to host a big one upper
Speaker 2: union just for my own entertainment.
Speaker 1: That was the best, all right, everybody. I've been Mike,
Speaker 1: he's been Dan, he's been Jeff, he's been Jeff, and
Speaker 1: he's been Sean. Thank y'all so much for hanging out
Speaker 1: with us tonight. Radio games, We gotta keep playing them.
Speaker 1: They still keep coming out, they still keep something out
Speaker 1: being very good. So hang out with us this week,
Speaker 1: hang out with us next week. I'm just gonna say,
Speaker 1: we love you. We're not afraid the commit anymore. We
Speaker 1: love you. Don't leave us.