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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by Fan Tracks. Here's

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huss Books, your source of information and analysis to help

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Speaker 2: Block off hot a stem, hit on, stay locked blocks.

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Speaker 3: Here's your host, Jesse Soviera and Victor Nuno.

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Speaker 4: Fantasy Hockey Live. Jesse Severe with you. We're ready to

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talk fantasy hockey. Victor Nuno, the Fantasy Hockey Doctor, will

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be with us here shortly, but I'm recording the intro today.

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It's gonna be a big old gang here.

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Speaker 5: We get to.

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Speaker 4: Put out the oddervs. We've pulled out the extra folding

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chairs from the basement because we got a big crew

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in here to talk fantasy hockey today. It's going to

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be our champions from the Tidy Leagues. It's the Tidy

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round Table that we're gonna be doing this episode. So

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going to look forward to a lot of guests. You'll

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hear from them in just a minute. Before I do that,

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remind you you can get on our discord and talk

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fantasy hockey throughout the rest of these Fantasy hockey playoffs.

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Or if you were so inspired listening to this to think, hey,

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I want to start a dynasty league.

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You're all calling from different countries, but all of them

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are free as far as starting fantasy hockey leagues because

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you can do it on fan tracks and they open

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in there. There's also the Patreon all sorts of stuff

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cooking up there. For one thing, you can be part

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of these tidy leagues next year. Tell us right now

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that you're interested, and we'll get you sorted. Get you

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to be a part of that right now, because I

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know the boys are putting this thing together already kind

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of for next year. And you can also get access

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to other cool stuff you'll hear about, including the Roster Doctor.

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Victor will come in and help you dissect a team

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or I will, one of us. And there's also things

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like the Ultra Life for tier where you can get

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Speaker 6: We'll get you there, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, we're gonna take a break, come back, and it's

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gonna be the Victors around name. All right, folks, we've

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been promising it for a while. Amazing year in the

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Tier Dynasty for FHL, and we've got some champs here.

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Speaker 3: We got a lot of hardware.

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Speaker 4: We got a lot of guys who guys and potentially

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gals who did great things in this season. Victor, I

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will let you go around and do the introductions and

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get us going into this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks everyone for joining us and for listening. We

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got hopefully it will be some really interesting discussion. We

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got the champs from a bunch of different divisions and

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the tidy the Tier Dynasty are league that we've created

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and there are there's one league in Tier four, two

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in Tier three, two in Tier two, and then one

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in Lord Stanley up at the top, so we have

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a few different divisions represented. A couple of people couldn't

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make it and that's unfortunate, but we will have a

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lot of good insights. And there is also a special

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connotation here of a omni track, which is the person

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who gets the absolute most points in the whole league,

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that person actually also won their division. So the promotion

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to Lord Stanley goes to the next person, and that

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person was Mutant Monsters who couldn't make it today, unfortunately,

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but it would be interesting to hear some of that perspective. Anyways,

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all that to say, we're gonna hear some really great insights.

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Hopefully you'll get great fantasy advice even if you aren't

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in the league, but hopefully this encourages you to to join.

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We're going to start off by just saying hi to everyone,

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and then we'll hopefully get some discussion points. So let's

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start with who's here. We have Mason, who was our

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Lord Stanley Champ. You want to say Hi, Mason, Mason Black,

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our rank king.

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Speaker 7: Hello, everybody, how's it going today?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And then we have from our Lemieux Division i A

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or Iowa Canuck Kevin Gillis. How you doing, Kevin?

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Speaker 6: Thanks for the invite, Happy to join you guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And then over in Yager Sasha Legarde, who was

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a one time guest on the show. I believe back

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in the day.

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Speaker 8: I'm good. I'm good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I was there for the Central Europe prospecting video

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with you and Jesse and excited to be back. Talk

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about something else that's the hockey.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff, yeah, for sure. And then or we had

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mister Puddle JP, who unfortunately couldn't make it. That was

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mostly my fault. When I was orienting everybody and figuring

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out who to invite, I totally missed him, So I apologize.

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He had something at this time anyway, so he might

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not have been able to come, but that's unfortunate. And

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then we also have one of our one of our

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Tidy Commission team members. We have Simone how you doing,

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Simone Good?

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Speaker 9: Victor happy to participate and contribute to another episode about

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the Tidy Nice.

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Speaker 3: And then lastly, but not leastly, we're going to start

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down in Tier four Lidstrum and Scott Ator. Scott Hilton

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is our and was a pretty dominant year took the

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one seed. We talked a little bit about him on

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a previous episode, helping to push his chips all the

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way in and I said to you at the time, Scott,

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you better win, and you did so. Congratulations. Tell us

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a little bit about your season, how did it go,

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and maybe anything that worked or didn't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt out of my league, especially in this

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room here with you guys, because I've only been doing

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Dynasty Hockey for a year plus a couple months now,

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and so this was only my second Dynasty league, and

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so I came into it knowing it's a free league,

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but it ended up being my favorite league to compete in.

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But just wanted to have fun, get in, meet the

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other guys and I don't know if there are any

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gals in the division in Lidstrom, and just find out

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where everybody was from and start there. And that actually

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ended up helping me as the year went on, just

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having some rapport and relationship with people already. But yeah,

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I think overall there's strategy strategies changed throughout the season,

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and wanted to decide early if I was going to

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go all in or not. But i'd heard the advice

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from maybe this episode last year of just not ending

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in the middle, and so I was looking for that

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going into the draft and everything. And I don't know

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if you want me to talk more about my draft strategy,

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but can get to that later.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, let's hear about that. So, yeah, you're

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new to Dynasty. I remember you're a little hesitant. Encourage you,

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thinking that it would help your other leagues and help

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your understanding of fantasy dynasty in general, and I think

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it's great to hear that you ended up enjoying it

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so much and became one of your sort of primary

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But yeah, tell us your strategy at the draft and

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what you were thinking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be in the new and Argula draft for

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this division. I had that idea of out running a bear.

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What's the best way to get away from a bear

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is to outrun the guys next to you. And in

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the draft, luckily I had the ash Chin on one

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side of me and then a couple guys on the

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other side that were auto drafting, and so that actually

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helped me as it went on. And because I could

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count on Ashchin making a bad pick every time around,

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and I know everybody loves to dunk on him. He

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picked a really good team and stole some of my guys.

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But but I was in the middle of the draft

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and at ninth pick, and what I did before the season,

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I heard people say, do the draft geek, the Dauber

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draft geek thing, so I could put in the settings

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of the league, get the scoring, and it would at

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least give me a baseline for what to expect, because

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not having I've only been a hockey fan since the

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Kraken came into existence, So I don't have a long

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history of hockey knowledge and knowing who everybody is, so

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that gave me a good baseline, and I think that

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helped separate me a little bit in the draft from

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other people. Where it was. It probably didn't include the

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Fenwick score, but it's not a huge influence one woul

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Way or the other. But definitely the defense showed up

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big there. So I think Dollen I wanted to die

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on Dolleen Hill, and so I got him with the

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ninth pick, but he was third or fourth in the projections,

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so I think he probably didn't end up that high,

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but it was pretty a pretty good chance. So with

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my first pick, I didn't even have to make a

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decision yet of if I was going all in or

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building for the future. And then Robertson came around the

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next time, and so I got Robertson. And then it

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wasn't until like round five or so, and I made

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a decision to pick Trocheck, and who's one of those

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people that nobody seems to want but is a really

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good fantasy asset, just his consistency and everything. So at

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that point, once I got him. I was like, Okay,

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I'm going all in and that kind of changed the

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rest of the draft. And at that point I had

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probably the two guys that helped me win anyways, was

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war Enski and Hellibuck. That kind of just I wonder

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how many teams probably here even had Hellibuck on their

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team or Wrenski were probably a lot, and so yeah,

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that just changed the draft for the rest and I

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started going older, more established, more predictable. But other teams

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were letting those guys slide. He went in the eighth round,

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I think, and I ended up trading for him later,

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but that wasn't on my team. But that was really

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my draft strategy. And I thought after the draft, I

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thought I had just this amazing team, but it didn't

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start out that well. During the season, I was needing

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to make moves to catch up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great, And you touched on a little bit

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of what I think we all saw from the distance

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that the Lititum Division it seemed like a lot of fun.

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You're rasing the aschen there and you guys, all of

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you were just having such a good time just giving

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it to each other back and forth, and just seemed

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like a real rowdy fund division. And for those of

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you that don't know, that's Simon's brother, So that is

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that not right, Simon? Yeah, So that was the Stimulan

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would often also jump in and just continue to dunk

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on everybody, and so it was a good time there,

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back and forth. So it was just a real lively,

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fun division and everyone just seemed like they were having

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a really good time, which is the whole point.

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Speaker 6: Scott.

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Speaker 4: I noticed you talk about Donan Hill. Of course you

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and I have been proud code denizens of the top

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of Donald Hill, but Dollan Ovie and Sidney Crosby, all

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of whom run your team, were top twenty performers in

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the six weeks of our playoffs. So that was definitely

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something that worked out, and not only established guys, but

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guys who were just red hot at the end of

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the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I almost they weren't. I almost lost the semi

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final because I built the end of my season to

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win the semi final, because I knew I'd get top

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one or two seeds and so I would get a

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buye in the first round. So I made trades to

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really build towards that week, and that two week span

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were Rinsky and Dollying and Hella Buck and a bunch

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of my best guys did not have good weeks, especially

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the first week of that two week period, and so

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I almost died on that hill. But that was for you,

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Jesse was the Dolling hill.

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Speaker 3: That's great stuff. And as we mentioned, you were the

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one seed when when one wire to wire, we're going

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to shift now to the next division when I come

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back to you, Scott, but tier three, Yager. So Sasha,

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you were actually the three seed, which is definitely a

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bit harder. You don't have one of those first round byes.

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You have to win pretty high up there, so you

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get to quote unquote pay play it the worst of

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the first round matchups. But that's not necessarily always easy.

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And you so you squeak by in round one, you

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increase your lead a little bit in round two, and

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then you blew the doors off in the final. So

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that was a great way to end. But why don't

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you tell us a little bit about your season coming

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in and how it worked out for you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this year, with the dispersal draft versus the first

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year where we were drafting from scratch in the new league,

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it gave a different perspective because we got the list

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a little early and we can dive in and see

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who was available. I had the first overall pick, so

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I knew I was going McDavid or Murcarr. I was

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moving back and forth, knowing in the Tidy that defensemen

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are super valuable. That's the only reason I was bouncing

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those two names. But I ended up taking McDavid. I'm

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always happy to take McDavid. Two years in a row,

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I've gotten him. So once you get McDavid, you're having

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to push your chips in quite early already, depending on

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how the rest of the draft the next two or

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three rounds unfold. So I ended up with McDavid, took Yosi,

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second him in, Crosby Wiger, and then Alex Tuck in

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some names after that. So once I built that core,

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there was, you know, in my mind, okay, I got

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to win in the next two to three years, and

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we talked. I gave that kind of insight for your

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Tidy Trade Talks episode as well. We talked about that.

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So that was my plan going in, and the way

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that I've approached to Tidy the last couple of years

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is just trying to get a certain standard or quality

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of player to overwhelm other teams by just getting guys

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that had get you three to four points. You can

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stream guys in like that and just overwhelm and build

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your points up as you go along. It's a big

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reason why I had the most points scored this year.

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I think the strategy works well. But the only thing

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that can derail that or injuries and that kind of

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dealt with that in the playoffs, not having McDavid or

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Yosi on my team. So that's why the first two

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rounds a lot closer, with the other teams maximizing their

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games played just as much as I was, So that

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was why that became more of dogfight, especially against Josh

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klima whole shout out. We talk every day. He's in

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one of my home pools as well, and I was

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down probably fifty to seventy points within the first week

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or so in that two week matchup and was able

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to come back and catch up thanks to the likes

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of OV and Crosby and those guys. Yes, the strategy

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worked out. What I will say is if you are

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building for a contender this year or next year, I

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try to push away the rookies and the prospects until

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later on the draft and really try to hone in

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on those guys that might be in the lineup towards

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the end of the year. To Ryan Leonard or if

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you're going to pick a guy, make sure that he

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can be flexed into your lineup, kind of like a Coronado.

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But this year where he got eighty games, eighty two

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games of him being minor eligible, or at least a

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majority of those eighty two games minor eligible. Yeah, that's

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it worked out well for me. But being the third seed,

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like you said, I didn't get that buy which I

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got last year, and that extra week really does add

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a lot of anxiety as a manager for sure.

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Speaker 3: For sure, And I wanted to circle back to that

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because I think those guys like Cornado that you mentioned,

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that's something that I try to prioritize. And it's not

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just the guys that are ready now. But you have

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the time out because you don't want their minors eligibility

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to run out when you really need them. So you

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don't want someone to January February Ishrirary and all of

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a sudden you have a roster spot that you have

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to lock in. So the timing on that is really important.

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Speaker 5: Right, absolutely, and it's something that at a certain point

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is going to run out. Like you said, right, there's

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only a certain amount of games that they can be

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minor eligible, so they're doing some math and trying to

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figure out where and what time of the year they're

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going to be only NHL roster eligible and not minor eligible.

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I had about three or four guys that were flexing

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throughout the year, so I had Forster, Bobby McMahon, guys

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like Coronado that I can move up and down. Shamus

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Casey at the beginning of the year when he was

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playing with the Devils. Was nice to have him for

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a little bit when he was really kicking off, especially

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over in Europe when you had that crazy couple of games.

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But yeah, it's part of the strategy of trying to

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find those guys, and you can trade for them if

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you want. But really the way that I like to

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use the trade pieces, like the prospects like Berkeley Catton,

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is if I'm going for it this year or the

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next year, I'm most likely going to be trading those guys,

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especially when they're eighteen and they're two or three years away. Anyway,

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that's a big reason why I got Ovi when the

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Caten and ob trade straight up. So while you're trying

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to time all that, you also should reflect on whether

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this guy's even in a play for your team. If

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you're able to move up a tier, trade them, get

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your guy, and hope for the best. And that's why

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it worked out for me this year.

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Speaker 1: Sasha, can I ask a question about that strategy. Do

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you focus on one position to have those flex guys?

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I didn't remember the names you said, but or do.

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Speaker 8: You like defense?

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Speaker 1: That's what I did. I focused on having defense guys

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that I could flex. But do you do that or

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just whoever?

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Speaker 5: Good question?

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Speaker 4: This year?

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Speaker 5: I think there was. Since it was a dispersal draft,

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it really dependent who was there, so so I prioritized.

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I had to choose between Leonard and the Frank Nazar.

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That was one of my picks, and I picked Leonard.

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Even though in Nasar played more games, Leonard still was

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there at the end of the year. And I like

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to prioritize d as much as I can because I

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find defensemen are just harder to find on the wire.

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They're more valuable and tidy. You have six spots, which

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is a lot for defensemen, and when your roster has

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three centermen, three left wing, three right wing, and six

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d so if you can get defensemen that you can

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flex in and out, I think that's much more valuable

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than center only as an example, But there's other guys

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that are going to be doing looking for those exact

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same players. So what I would say is I would

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jump on an elite offensive defenceman if you can to flex,

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and if not, just take the best quality prospect that

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can play the most games for you that year, or

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at least in your calculations.

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Speaker 3: Love it. That's great stuff and we'll probably come back

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to some more questions in a little bit, Sasha, but

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that's a great overview. I want to move now to

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Kevin and Lemieux Iowa Cannuck, who we mentioned how hard

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it was Sasha from the three seat and Kevin, as

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we mentioned in the previous episode, did it from the

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sixth seed. Can't if you're not in this league. I

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can't stress to you how difficult that is to have

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the more challenging matchup from basically all the way through

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is essentially what you did, and so just an incredible run.

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There must have been guys peaking at all at the

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right time. It just seems like all the right all

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the right buns needed to be pushed. I imagine you're in

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the locker room there just giving it to you guys,

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just really motivating them. But now, tell us a little

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bit about it, about your your team, your season and

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how it ended up working out so well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure it was all the coaching along

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the way. But yeah, as these guys that have talked

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about right coming into the dispersal, this was my first

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year in Lemieux. I had moved up from or the

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previous year, and the dispersal draft, it is trying to

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establish what is your strategy going in. Like the quality

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of players in our dispersal was really quite good, and

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that's one thing maybe a little concerning move it up

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in levels, like we no longer have the top teams leaving,

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so dispersal is going to be players from the lower team.

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We had McDavid, McKinnon, mccarr, we're all in the dispersal draft,

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so everybody came out of those with those first two picks.

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I got McKinnon and then that same kind of forced

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into the decision, Okay, do I go for the older

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veterans who can deliver more, and my second pick I did.

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I went with Pinerin so I'm like, okay, I'm going

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to try and win now, and that kind of right

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from the second pick, you're trying to establish, hopefully guys

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that are going to be stronger and focus on delivering

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this year. So I had pretty good season. Did end

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up in six. We were ten and five. There were

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actually three teams four through six were tied at ten

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and five, and so going into the playoffs, it was

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those last couple of weeks certainly really trying to prime

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that roster and so, okay, how do I try to

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move up just a little bit. But all the teams

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that I was tide with, we all finished the season

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on a couple win streaks, so weren't able to move up,

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and it was interesting just going in, Okay, don't have

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the chance to look too far ahead. I have to

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pick up players to win this first week or first series.

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And that was one of the things that when I

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look back that the end of the season, the players

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that came on and off the roster. When I look

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at my playoff roster, I had be a suitor and

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Dante Fabro both in the finals were two of my

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top scoring players.

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Speaker 6: They had been.

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Speaker 2: On my roster to start the playoffs, and I had

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actually dropped them to maximize and make sure that I

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won those early weeks, and a couple of days later

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went back and got them back on my roster, which

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turned out to be really the difference having those guys,

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like you said, just hit peak at just the right time.

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Really focusing on the getting those games played, making sure

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you have a roster. I don't focus too much on positions.

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Two of my top three picks at forward in the

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dispersal ord center only, which was a little bit concerning

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at that point, But for the most part, you try

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and get some of those dual position guys and the

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daily This is the first league I've played in that

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had the daily roster setup. I've always played weekly before,

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and that complication is so much fun to maneuver your

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roster through, but also just the variables are massive and

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how you can change that configuration through the season. I

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tried not to focus too much on that and just

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rely on those dual position players to fill in here

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and there and hopefully fill in the gaps in between there.

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But I did have a quite a bit of roster

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churn throughout the year, tried to keep that active. One

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of the other real wins for me was Alexi protests

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off of waivers, so able to pick him up in

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on November first. So this looks like there might be

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something here. That turned out pretty well for me. So

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it was, yeah, a lot of different things really just

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coming together. Like you said, players that peaked at the

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right time. Between Suitor Fabro. The trade deadline helped me

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out as well because I had drafted both Bathurston and

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Cousins that hadn't looked great for a long time, and

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then post trade deadline when they're on that line in

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Autawa to really start delivering at the right time of

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the year for me, really came around and worked out.

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Just there's so many different things, and I think I joined.

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Like I said two years ago, Victory had reached out

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on email and I said, I don't know. I just

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started a new job. I got a lot of stuff

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going on. I'm not sure I have time for something

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this intense. And it turns out I was right. I

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probably didn't have time. But it's so much fun that

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you make the time you get up in the morning,

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you get what happened and how what waivers went through

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and in the playoffs and leading into the playoffs. This year,

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it was definitely taking the time figured out rosters, looking ahead. Okay,

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everything set, how do I who do I take advantage

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of it? With the condensed schedule. That's the other thing too.

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The schedule this year was so condensed that I knew

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I was going to hit the game as max limit, Like, Okay,

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i might not be able to use this player, but

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I've got the moves to make. Do I take them

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and just try to keep them away from Timmy who

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was I was playing, and just say, hey, maybe he

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could use him, and I just want to keep him

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off of there and maybe sabotage his chances to improve

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his roster. So that was the other thing, just trying

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to look ahead there.

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Speaker 9: Jesse, correct me if I'm wrong. You are in Lemieux.

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Speaker 4: You talk about those all those teams he was tied

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with for for that three way tie, and yep, I

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was one of them. I was one step ahead. I

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was one spot ahead of Kevin. I thought it was

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all going to happen for me, but no, Kevin crushed

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00:23:41,759 --> 00:23:43,720
all our hopes and dreams. We didn't play head to

480
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,799
head in the playoffs, but man, you made an amazing

481
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:47,599
run up there.

482
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 9: Yeah. Thanks, not a Washington Capitals fan, and there is

483
00:23:54,519 --> 00:23:57,759
an Alexei pro Tooss just floating around.

484
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know how that happened. Simon. Yeah, but

485
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,599
he's nice enough to put him back in the pool.

486
00:24:05,599 --> 00:24:07,000
But I don't know how I'm going to get him

487
00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:09,200
because I'm not in the dispersal draft.

488
00:24:09,279 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 9: So he's gone now.

489
00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's probably not coming back. So I wonder, Kevin,

490
00:24:17,799 --> 00:24:20,599
if you ended up being able to or did you

491
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,759
make any moves to plan You might not have had

492
00:24:23,759 --> 00:24:25,319
time because I think you were struggling to get in,

493
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,440
But did you look at ahead? And sometimes we plan

494
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,880
on maybe, like Scott said, one round, you're focusing on

495
00:24:32,319 --> 00:24:34,359
semi finals or something. But I'm not sure that you

496
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,160
really had the ability to do that. Did you try

497
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,599
to beef up your playoff roster schedule at all?

498
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 2: I did at the end of the season, So with

499
00:24:42,079 --> 00:24:44,200
a couple periods left in the season or a couple

500
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,920
of games left in the season, I was looking ahead

501
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,720
at playoffs because I was confident I was going to

502
00:24:47,799 --> 00:24:49,920
make the playoffs. I just didn't know where that seating

503
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,000
would fit. A couple of weeks ahead of playoffs. I

504
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,960
was looking ahead and said, okay, do they have if

505
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:54,559
I picked them up?

506
00:24:54,559 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 8: Now?

507
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 2: Do they also have a good potential to deliver value

508
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,240
in the playoffs? So I was trying to look ahead,

509
00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:05,079
not the finals, but that really that first week. And

510
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,559
then in that first week, because I had already done that,

511
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,519
I think I was able to look ahead just a

512
00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:14,440
little bit and say, okay again now that I'm going

513
00:25:14,519 --> 00:25:17,559
to use my seventy five games in the first round,

514
00:25:17,799 --> 00:25:21,359
so now I can start using those ads and start

515
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,559
looking ahead one always playing that one matchup ahead.

516
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,839
Speaker 6: So I was trying to as much as I could. Yeah.

517
00:25:27,839 --> 00:25:31,319
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yeah, And it looks like the first round matchup,

518
00:25:31,319 --> 00:25:33,799
even though you were six versus three, you ended up

519
00:25:33,839 --> 00:25:36,759
crushing your opponents. So I wonder towards the end of

520
00:25:36,759 --> 00:25:39,640
that matchup you were able to refocus on the next one.

521
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 6: Yeah.

522
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Because I would say going into the second week

523
00:25:44,519 --> 00:25:46,759
felt pretty good. I was like, ok, I have to

524
00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:49,240
just make sure I use those games, and as long

525
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,079
as my team maintains the pace we're on, I should

526
00:25:52,079 --> 00:25:54,519
be pretty good. So I wasn't maximizing for that second

527
00:25:54,559 --> 00:25:56,640
week in the first round, I was looking ahead and saying, okay,

528
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,000
I get that second round to hopefully allow me to

529
00:26:01,079 --> 00:26:02,000
keep on moving through.

530
00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 3: That's such a huge advantage, even in redrafting stuff, whether

531
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,240
you win or lose, being able to look forward to

532
00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:09,960
the next week and make some of those moves to

533
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,200
look ahead. Obviously, in the playoffs you have to win,

534
00:26:12,599 --> 00:26:14,200
and that's kind of the benefit of the two week

535
00:26:14,319 --> 00:26:15,839
if you have a big enough leet, which in the

536
00:26:15,839 --> 00:26:19,319
Semis you also ended up winning by about eighty points.

537
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,079
You probably didn't have a full week, but you probably

538
00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:22,640
had at least a few days towards the end where

539
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,839
you probably felt pretty good and you could make a

540
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,759
couple of moves, and that can make all the difference

541
00:26:26,799 --> 00:26:29,200
sometimes because if you wait until the very last day,

542
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,200
or if you have to because it's so close, then

543
00:26:31,319 --> 00:26:33,240
your options are limited. Usually by that point.

544
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just have to I have a tendency to

545
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,880
use a lot of my ads early, so maybe I

546
00:26:39,039 --> 00:26:42,240
just you're looking ahead and you're trying to grab people

547
00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:44,000
that are going to help later in the week, even

548
00:26:44,039 --> 00:26:47,720
if I can't use them, and never knowing whether or

549
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,240
not the other team you're going to be playing is

550
00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:51,680
also going to try and grab those folks. So by

551
00:26:51,759 --> 00:26:53,799
the final I had used up all of my free

552
00:26:53,839 --> 00:26:56,880
agent dollars, so I was like, everything's zero dollar bids.

553
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,960
At this point, I was trying to at least make

554
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,279
be a day or two ahead of somebody else, thinking

555
00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:05,039
they're going to go grab them. So you're forced me

556
00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:06,400
into have them to look ahead a little bit.

557
00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:13,559
Speaker 3: Awesome, great stuff. Let's shift over to Lord Stanley, and

558
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,160
I know Simone prepped a little bit here. Both he

559
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,279
and I are in Lord Stanley, so we got to

560
00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:22,000
witness some of this, but it was basically from the

561
00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:26,160
bottom as a tiny ant being stepped on by the

562
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,880
rank king himself just so far ahead of all of us.

563
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,839
It was basically the Jack and Mason show. And Jack

564
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,559
got the best of you last year, Mason, and it

565
00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:38,720
was close, and then this year there was a little

566
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,680
bit of retooling. We talked a little bit about it

567
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,000
in our previous episode, but you were able to go

568
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,960
wire to wire and really take that division down. I'm

569
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,359
going to turn it over to you, Simone, if you

570
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,160
want to bring our ranking in here and ask them

571
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:51,640
how it went.

572
00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:57,319
Speaker 9: Mount Everest, the Iron Throne, Mount Olympus, the Coliseum. These

573
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,079
are just stepping stones to what finally amounts to the

574
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,960
greatest tiered dynasty Fantasy Hockey League division in the world. Nay,

575
00:28:05,839 --> 00:28:11,359
in the universe Lord Stanley illegue, emotions run high, weakness

576
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,920
is exploited, and at the end, the crown of Lord

577
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,400
Stanley Champions placed upon the winner, and that's Mason Black.

578
00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 8: Mason, Yeah, that's funny.

579
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,519
Speaker 7: When you're talking and leading up like that, it's not

580
00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:29,519
hard to think that Jack first pops into my head

581
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,319
and what a juggernaut that he's built. It was a

582
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,279
pretty impressive battle from start to finish. Interestingly enough, the

583
00:28:36,319 --> 00:28:38,640
first matchup, and I'm not sure if this was intentional

584
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,960
or not, was against Jack. So it was a rematch

585
00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:46,000
in week one, and if everyone can remember back, I

586
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,599
think there were a couple games over in Chechia with

587
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,400
Buffalo and New Jersey, so we're both trying to stream

588
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,759
as many guys in because I don't think any team

589
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:56,039
was able to hit the max number of games played

590
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,960
in that first matchup because it went over the course

591
00:28:59,000 --> 00:28:59,680
of two weeks.

592
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:00,839
Speaker 8: I was able to.

593
00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:02,839
Speaker 7: Pull one out, and I think if it was going

594
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,400
one more day, I think Jack would have pulled out

595
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,640
that victory, and looking back, I think I started the

596
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,240
season actually two and three, so I was behind the

597
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:13,960
eight ball and starting to question some of my decisions

598
00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:18,079
and a couple of sleepless nights, maybe even, and then

599
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:20,480
things started to turn around and some of the guys

600
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:25,319
that I thought were underperforming started to find their gear

601
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,200
and eventually pretty much ran the table the rest of

602
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,799
the way, which was nice to.

603
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 9: See your hot wind streak after your cold start. And

604
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,359
this is you can't write. This is a Hollywood book

605
00:29:38,839 --> 00:29:42,599
to book end to end story. You start, you face Jack,

606
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:48,559
you spank him, You end the year, and you spank him.

607
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:51,799
And right around that, sorry, go ahead.

608
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:52,799
Speaker 8: I was just going to say that.

609
00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:57,799
Speaker 7: Rewinding back to last year, Jack had my number, we

610
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,960
both earned a bye into the playoffs, and of course

611
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,960
saw each other in the final and it was not

612
00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:06,000
even close. He just absolutely annihilated my team and anytime

613
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:08,279
I'd have a good night, he'd have a better night.

614
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,400
And that matchup was quickly over almost before it began,

615
00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:14,480
So it was nice to get a little bit of

616
00:30:14,519 --> 00:30:17,759
revenge on him. And I'm just looking at the rest

617
00:30:17,759 --> 00:30:19,920
of the pool and the new gms that are coming in,

618
00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:22,880
and it's just going to get even harder this year,

619
00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:25,519
I think, and I'm not sure someone might want to

620
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,279
correct me on this, but I think all of the

621
00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:31,240
teams that were promoted to the top division Lord Stanley

622
00:30:31,319 --> 00:30:35,440
last year ended up not getting relegated and finished the

623
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,440
season and they'll be back, so it will be interesting

624
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,559
to see the new dynamic with the new managers coming

625
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,599
up and filling in those spots for the teams that

626
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,960
were relegated. In fact, I think Tomtron as everybody knows

627
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,279
from the Discord Server, he ended up winning the relegation

628
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:58,359
round and earned macl and Celabrini and ran the table.

629
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,319
Most of the year he was in first place, so

630
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,000
he went from fighting it out just to stay alive

631
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,960
to continuing to dominate for the better part of the

632
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:09,279
year and then started to leak a little bit towards

633
00:31:09,319 --> 00:31:09,519
the end.

634
00:31:09,559 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 8: I'm sure injuries were played a big part in that,

635
00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:17,839
and then got knocked out in the playoffs.

636
00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 9: He did buy me. Well, we're all talking about me here.

637
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:25,920
You were three, you were three or four and three,

638
00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:28,799
and your team, like you said, you were a little

639
00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:31,839
bit wondering where you were headed, and then you.

640
00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:32,559
Speaker 6: Made a big trade.

641
00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:37,279
Speaker 9: You traded Arvits, Autoblam, Yakoub Slave and Maddy beIN yeers

642
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,680
for Matt Soguard, Thomas Shurtle and Nick Jensen. And after

643
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,880
that hot streak, are you telling us that the key

644
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,480
to victory is getting Thomas Shurtle to be able to

645
00:31:49,559 --> 00:31:50,160
run the table.

646
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, he was certainly a big part of it.

647
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,319
Speaker 7: He started delay it up shortly after that trade, but

648
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,480
unfortunately got injured, so I didn't see him for the

649
00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:02,039
better part of the playoffs, including not a single game

650
00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:04,720
in the final, which was a bit disappointing, and he

651
00:32:04,759 --> 00:32:06,359
was one of the hottest guys in the NHL up

652
00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:06,920
to that point.

653
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,559
Speaker 8: Yeah, for that trade.

654
00:32:09,319 --> 00:32:12,359
Speaker 7: It actually started out that I realized I just had

655
00:32:12,359 --> 00:32:14,960
too many goalies, which I know is probably too.

656
00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 10: Many people in the league have, but I'm a firm

657
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,519
believer that you really need to.

658
00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 8: Especially in this league, build from the back end.

659
00:32:21,559 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 10: I think I had at that time seven goalies on

660
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,480
my roster and can realize that I wasn't getting the

661
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,640
maximum number of games played for forwards and as all

662
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,200
the goalie goalies don't count towards that max number of games.

663
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 3: So I'm wondering if you guys have any thoughts or

664
00:32:39,079 --> 00:32:41,160
something that you really like about this league, or maybe

665
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,440
something that really helped you and generalizable to other dynasty leagues.

666
00:32:47,759 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for me, one of the things that

667
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,759
attracted me to it is the depth of this dynasty league.

668
00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 9: Right.

669
00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: I played a different dynasty league, but the rosters are

670
00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:57,640
so short that you can always go out and find

671
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,680
good players, and that's not really the case. You might

672
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,880
get lucky every once in a while and catch somebody

673
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,599
before they get hot for the season, but you're not

674
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,160
going to go get superstar players. You've got twenty person

675
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,480
minors systems that take up most of the up and

676
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:15,759
coming players coming into the league, and you're trying to

677
00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:18,240
maximize those as where you can get points if you're

678
00:33:18,319 --> 00:33:21,039
going forward this season. So that depth, to me, was

679
00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:24,200
forced me to look a lot deeper in the last

680
00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:27,160
couple of years being playing in TIDY, And then you

681
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,559
take that and have a much better view of the

682
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:32,000
players that are coming in other leagues, and you've been

683
00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:34,759
looking at somebody for two years before you're even considering

684
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:37,240
them in another league, just because you're forced to look

685
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:41,640
a little deeper into it. And that depth. Goalies is

686
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,839
another good example. As Mace was talking about they're so

687
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,119
hard to find in tidy like everybody's owned. I actually

688
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,519
rostered Capel Cacadid for a couple different times, thinking if

689
00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:53,279
it gets hot, maybe I can get a couple of games.

690
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 6: Out of them.

691
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: I'd watched them and for the Iowa Wild win HL

692
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,160
Goalie of the Year years ago. Maybe he'll figure it

693
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,319
out again. But it was it's just so hard, whereas

694
00:34:03,839 --> 00:34:07,200
my other leagues goalie next week, I can go find one.

695
00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:09,880
So it's just a different approach, and it's it forces

696
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,400
you to dig a little deeper and you learn a

697
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,039
lot about prospects and deeper players in the lineup.

698
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:16,639
Speaker 6: So thought that was really interesting.

699
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 5: If I can just piggyback off that a little bit.

700
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,239
Just something I learned in Lindstrom and moving up to

701
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,760
Yoger is keeping one of your spots on your roster

702
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,320
for spec ads, whether that's an NHL player or using

703
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,360
one of your minor minor league eligible spots to move

704
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,400
them up. But guys that I was able to add

705
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,199
and hold and see how they would do that ended

706
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,039
up staying on my team, where guys like Ryan Donado,

707
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:43,679
Jaden Schwartz, Cam Fowler post the trade to Saint Louis

708
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,960
the Ton DiAngelo, Scott Wedgwood late which he started a

709
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,480
bunch of games. James Reimer started a bunch of games

710
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,079
at the end of the year. Like you can pick

711
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:54,360
up guys, hold them for a week and a half,

712
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,400
two weeks, see how their role develops, and then make

713
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,559
a decision later on. I think that's really good in

714
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:02,559
terms of having a deep roster and a deep bench.

715
00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:05,639
That doesn't hurt you, especially when it comes to goalies.

716
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,559
If the goalie goes on the wire, try to grab them,

717
00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:11,559
hold on, see what happens. And if there's an injury

718
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:14,519
to the starter and you're holding that backup thing, that's

719
00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:15,480
valin gold right there.

720
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,119
Speaker 1: Now from a new manager perspective, if people are considering

721
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,400
joining the league, which I highly encourage, is there's so many,

722
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,760
like you said, Victor's so many good smart managers that

723
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,760
are in these leagues. They know a lot about hockey,

724
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,039
they play in a bunch of leagues in most cases,

725
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,159
and so just learning the specific rules of a tiered

726
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,440
dynasty league, like I don't think there's a ton of

727
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,960
tiered dynasty leagues out there, and so forming your team

728
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,480
into that and finding value with how you can go

729
00:35:47,519 --> 00:35:52,400
all in, or knowing if you are in which part

730
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,559
of the playoffs you're in, what pick you're going to get.

731
00:35:56,079 --> 00:35:58,719
Knowing the things like Fenwick being part of the scoring,

732
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:06,840
the incredibly punitive takeaways being or giveaways being part of

733
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,119
the scoring, and everything those things ended up being important,

734
00:36:11,159 --> 00:36:12,960
and I didn't realize that early on. But I think

735
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,599
if you can find those little pieces that are different

736
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:20,039
the defensive scoring, if you're in an inaugural draft next year,

737
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,760
knowing that is important and not everybody in the league

738
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,119
is gonna know that and be going for that, And

739
00:36:26,159 --> 00:36:27,840
so those are the things to look for. Is what

740
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,599
are you going to know that's more than the person

741
00:36:29,679 --> 00:36:33,239
next to you and keep out running that bear.

742
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,679
Speaker 3: I love the bear analogy. I also I love that too, Sasha,

743
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,440
what you said, I think sometimes that's really hard to

744
00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:45,000
marry right, the two things, like if you're trying to

745
00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:49,199
be competitive but also give guys time to see if

746
00:36:49,199 --> 00:36:52,800
they're going to do something like sometimes finding that balance

747
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,199
is challenging. I often found the same with goalies. You're

748
00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:00,360
not because every getting extra starts isn't necessarily going to

749
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,440
be helpful. If it's someone who's going to maybe give

750
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,119
you a really low points per game or a negative

751
00:37:05,519 --> 00:37:08,000
that may not be worth it. But for goalies that's rare,

752
00:37:08,199 --> 00:37:10,679
and goalies are hard to find. So I would agree

753
00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:12,920
in terms of goalies, like just throw them on your roster,

754
00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:16,039
see what happens, and maybe you can trade him or

755
00:37:16,119 --> 00:37:18,960
you can get value. But with skaters, how are you

756
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:24,199
patient to see if someone will contribute while also trying

757
00:37:24,199 --> 00:37:26,440
to be competitive. That seems like it's a bit challenging.

758
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll give you an example. So I don't know.

759
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:32,159
A month and a half in, I found out my

760
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,639
roster was getting packed, sitting a lot of guys that

761
00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:37,639
I want to play, and it just wasn't working out.

762
00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:39,239
I lost two of the first three weeks, so I

763
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,400
was trying to work my way back up. So I

764
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:46,639
ended up trading Robert Samuelson and Pastusville for Georgiev and

765
00:37:47,039 --> 00:37:50,039
Dreue and Koivunen. So what that did for me was

766
00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:53,079
it opened up roster spots right. I was able to

767
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:55,400
drop the goalie down into the goalie category, which doesn't

768
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,760
count towards games played. Drewan was an IR eligible player

769
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,599
at the time on IR and Koivunen was a minor eligible,

770
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,960
so really gave me an extra roster spot or two,

771
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,920
which then allowed me to pick up players and hold

772
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,880
them a little bit longer than I would have done beforehand.

773
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,719
So you can always try and get those trades done

774
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,199
as well. Plus Georgia at the time was on the Avalanche,

775
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,039
not on the Sharks. Drouet ended up having a good

776
00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:23,320
end of the season. It helped me win. So those

777
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,440
trades are good for the short term and they have

778
00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:26,840
long term potential as well.

779
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so being judicious being smart about it. Certainly, trading

780
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,800
for guys who you can stash an ir and then

781
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,440
maybe can contribute later is a really great plan.

782
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 6: Yeah.

783
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:42,079
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was necessarily a great strategy

784
00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:43,840
on my part if I got a little bit lucky too.

785
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,239
I had both Edmonton goalies, so being able to ensure

786
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,400
that I'm going to get every goalie win with not

787
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,440
that Skinner was probably worth where I drafted him. But

788
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,440
because I had both Skinner and the card in this league,

789
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:02,320
that was huge to maximize those spots. And my backup

790
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,199
goalie on the roster is somebody I know I can

791
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,519
play whenever he gets a game, so that turned out

792
00:39:07,559 --> 00:39:09,960
to be very helpful through the course of the season.

793
00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 4: That's something I noticed with you too, Kevin is for

794
00:39:13,679 --> 00:39:17,320
the playoffs, you lost Protash, you lost Skinner, and if

795
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,320
you would have lost Skinner and been without the other

796
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,639
Edmonton goalie, you would have been in a rough shape.

797
00:39:21,679 --> 00:39:24,800
So that was Yeah, I'm pretty savvy playing in retrospect.

798
00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:27,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and he was.

799
00:39:28,119 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: I believe I got both of them in dispersed obviously,

800
00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:31,880
Skinner and Dispersal, and I think the card as well.

801
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,639
So I don't know if the previous owner had done

802
00:39:34,639 --> 00:39:36,800
the same or if they were coming off two different teams.

803
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,480
When you get far enough down to the dispersal, you

804
00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:41,840
like in terms of adding value this season, the card

805
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:46,960
potentially has the biggest insurance and capability because of in

806
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,400
a weekly league, they wouldn't have had a value unless

807
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,880
you add an injury here. Every time they rest Skinner,

808
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,679
I get the points that the card, which you're expecting

809
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,440
the Oilers to get a lot of wins along the way.

810
00:39:56,519 --> 00:39:59,639
I figured that was a pretty safe bet there, and

811
00:39:59,679 --> 00:40:02,599
my I got. Other than Skinner's lad injury, you get

812
00:40:02,639 --> 00:40:05,159
pretty good health out of Hill and the Cord. They

813
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,679
had injuries along the way. I've played enough games that

814
00:40:09,079 --> 00:40:12,840
between that three headed rotation. My goalie spots were fairly

815
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,599
well populated with guys who are going to get points,

816
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:17,880
so that was big for me this season.

817
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm someone who famously dislikes having tandems, especially

818
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,480
when your roster spots are limited, and if you have

819
00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:28,679
other options, if you can stream all those things, I

820
00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:31,159
would just rather have the guy. But in this league,

821
00:40:31,159 --> 00:40:32,679
I think it's a little unique, and this is why

822
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,679
it's always important to know the settings. You're not going

823
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,880
to find another goalie like a skinner goes down, You're

824
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,719
not going to be able to go get picker like

825
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,440
he's going to be rostered, so you have to hold it.

826
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,960
And because there's no skater or flex spot, you really

827
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,840
are limited on who you can get in. And so

828
00:40:48,039 --> 00:40:50,440
I think we've all realized that, and this is how

829
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,079
I set the league up in the first place, is

830
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:56,679
that having extra goalies is very valuable, and especially ones

831
00:40:56,679 --> 00:40:58,639
like Edmonton is one of those teams that tends to

832
00:40:58,639 --> 00:41:01,159
play more off nights and the average team, and so

833
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,639
you can often get an extra starter or two in

834
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,719
throughout the season, which which is helpful because if you

835
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,039
just have extra goalies that kind of mostly just play

836
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:12,519
on the busy nights, you might not be able to

837
00:41:12,559 --> 00:41:14,679
get quite as many in, but that is something that

838
00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:16,239
I definitely look for as well.

839
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it had the Oilers just had to trade for

840
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,000
a new goalie at the trade dayline, that would have

841
00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:23,079
been bad ears for me.

842
00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:25,079
Speaker 6: But it's like just kind of worked out.

843
00:41:25,159 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, as we're recording this right now, it's not going

844
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,360
super well in the playoffs for their goalies, so we'll

845
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,280
see how that works out for them.

846
00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:32,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.

847
00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 3: Soon let's switch back to oh, did you have something

848
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:36,840
else Covin?

849
00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 2: Oh no, I was going to say it might not

850
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,800
help them in their playoffs, but it certainly helped in mind.

851
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's all we really care about.

852
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 7: I think there's a sweet spot about five or six

853
00:41:44,519 --> 00:41:46,559
goalies on your roster, and they don't even have to

854
00:41:46,559 --> 00:41:49,079
be good. Like Kevin I was running the card. I

855
00:41:49,079 --> 00:41:51,760
picked them up last year as a free agent when

856
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:55,079
Jack Campbell, who I had also used a higher draft

857
00:41:55,079 --> 00:41:57,960
slot on on the original draft, and Lord Stanley when

858
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,599
he got sent down, quickly used up most of my

859
00:42:01,639 --> 00:42:05,119
fab to get Picard as just some insurance for him,

860
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,880
and that's worked out now since then ended up trading

861
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,360
him and then the trade that I was talking about

862
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:19,079
previously was built around Arvid Soderblown and he had recently graduated.

863
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,559
So I put too many goalies on my roster, and

864
00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:25,000
I wasn't really happy with not maximizing my games played.

865
00:42:25,079 --> 00:42:28,519
I tried to shed him and ended up with other

866
00:42:28,599 --> 00:42:30,960
moving parts, of course, but Thomas Hurtle was a big

867
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,960
piece that came over and was really helpful over the

868
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:34,559
course of the year.

869
00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:41,159
Speaker 9: Unmaximizing game played is what you've done best, even looking

870
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,639
at it, Mason, out of the top twenty five skaters,

871
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,199
you only have two. In the top twenty five, you

872
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:52,199
have Yesper Bratt and Dollin, and out of the top

873
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,400
seventy five after that you only have another eight. Out

874
00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:00,840
of the top one hundred, you only have ten gators.

875
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,559
But what you do have is you have the most

876
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,840
games played out of all the managers and your efficiency

877
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,320
rate on it because you have as the highest fan

878
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,320
points per game in addition to that, So it's not

879
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,079
like you're you got this big gluttony of high end

880
00:43:18,159 --> 00:43:22,920
forwards and that's all you're winning. But you're just maximizing everything.

881
00:43:24,559 --> 00:43:27,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think a big part of that is really

882
00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:31,679
utilizing the five free agent pickups that were allowed each week.

883
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,760
I pretty much max out those on almost any given week.

884
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,920
And I'd advise any new managers that are coming into

885
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,559
the league that out of the twenty nine roster players

886
00:43:41,559 --> 00:43:44,639
that you have on your main roster, not including prospects,

887
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,400
have probably your last two or three roster spots to

888
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,920
be utilized for free agent pickups or from your miners

889
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,800
and your farm team, and being able to flex those

890
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,519
guys up and down. I'm pretty good about churning the

891
00:43:59,559 --> 00:44:02,599
bottom of my roster, so trying to find guys that

892
00:44:02,679 --> 00:44:05,119
are in a good situation for a week or two

893
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:09,119
and not being too desperate about holding on to them afterwards,

894
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:11,199
and if they get into a worse position, I dropped

895
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,119
them almost immediately. Some of those free agent pickups actually

896
00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:17,159
ended up becoming holds over the course of the year,

897
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,039
and that's happened in every year that I've played in

898
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:22,440
the Tidy so far. Some of the big hits that

899
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,159
I got, I was able to grab Cam Fowler and

900
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,960
he was reasonably dropped. He wasn't doing very well in Anaheim.

901
00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:33,519
They've gotten they have a glutt ney of great defensive prospects.

902
00:44:33,639 --> 00:44:36,239
Jackson McCombs Elwager, just to name a couple of them,

903
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,840
and it was clear that Fowler was on the way out,

904
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,960
and quickly after I picked him up, I think he

905
00:44:42,039 --> 00:44:45,039
ended up going on the r and then that saved

906
00:44:45,039 --> 00:44:47,079
a roster spot for me, and then he got traded

907
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:49,280
to Saint Louis and the rest is history.

908
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 9: There.

909
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 7: He's been lighting it up since then, especially in the playoffs.

910
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,960
I think he had a five point night last night,

911
00:44:55,039 --> 00:44:57,719
and really there's nobody on Saint Louis that I think

912
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,119
is going to push him out of that spot. I

913
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:03,239
don't see Periko, who knows what's going to happen with

914
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,199
Tory Krue coming back, and Justin Falk seems to be

915
00:45:06,679 --> 00:45:08,760
a bit of a shadow of his former self. He

916
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,000
doesn't seem like the same player he was even a

917
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,199
couple of years ago. A guy like Fowler, who I

918
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,400
was not expecting to hold, ended up becoming a pretty

919
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,000
important player in the playoffs. And I think if you

920
00:45:18,039 --> 00:45:20,199
can hit on those types of guys, and I think

921
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,000
if you look at most of the teams that ended

922
00:45:23,039 --> 00:45:25,840
up near the top of the standings, there would be

923
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,480
a huge correlation between the number of roster pickups and

924
00:45:29,679 --> 00:45:31,760
free agent pickups they're making over the course of the

925
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,920
year and to what their standings. Their final standings ranking was,

926
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,119
and I know just in the final both Jack and

927
00:45:40,159 --> 00:45:44,000
I were hitting on some free agents that you normally

928
00:45:44,039 --> 00:45:47,719
wouldn't think would be successful guys in the playoffs. One

929
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,559
for me was Marcus Johansson. I think he had a

930
00:45:50,639 --> 00:45:54,039
four point night and a short handed goal in one

931
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,000
night and that can make or break the difference in

932
00:45:57,039 --> 00:45:58,559
a really tight matchup.

933
00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: For a counter argument of course for that just just

934
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,400
and I think it may play differently in the different

935
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,280
divisions or this could be like a first world problem

936
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,079
where you have a really strong roster. But I found

937
00:46:15,039 --> 00:46:17,719
that the weak side because there's when you come up

938
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:22,239
against the games played. Max making those ads and drops

939
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,639
during the week like that often like confused me a

940
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,599
little bit and how I would get to my top

941
00:46:27,639 --> 00:46:30,079
games played and I would end up playing some guys

942
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:33,639
for extra games played but get fewer points because I

943
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,960
played lesser players that were just streamers. And when you

944
00:46:37,039 --> 00:46:40,239
have a strong roster, this is easier to do. But

945
00:46:41,159 --> 00:46:45,199
not really playing the numbers game until the playoffs potentially

946
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,320
and then putting the dropping some of those lower guys

947
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,280
because you could be. I think Dasasha's point earlier about

948
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,119
about holding onto some of those guys that may hit

949
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,519
or may play better later if you drop them. At

950
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:01,360
least in I experienced like when I would drop them

951
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,559
then see them do well. Maybe that's like the confirmation bias,

952
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,679
but I felt holding on to basically my roster making

953
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,239
improvements through trades throughout the season, I may put more

954
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,159
stars on my team, and then I didn't have to

955
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,880
drop good players to stream in to get games played,

956
00:47:24,159 --> 00:47:27,320
because I would say about half of the weeks throughout

957
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,079
the season, you're coming up against that max on games played,

958
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,159
And so that was something that I didn't do. I've

959
00:47:34,159 --> 00:47:37,760
done in other leagues before, and I know it can work,

960
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,679
but I wonder if it works different between the different

961
00:47:39,679 --> 00:47:42,599
divisions because this was the inaugural draft division. I had

962
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:46,400
a real strong team, and it sounds like Mason for you,

963
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,960
you are like fighting for every point in some of

964
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,360
those weeks against to try to beat out Jack Zi

965
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:55,480
or whoever. But I don't know if that's valid, But

966
00:47:55,559 --> 00:47:58,000
I just I think there's another route, and if more

967
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,880
people take this route and listen to me, then it

968
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:02,000
helps you in your streaming as well.

969
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think like anything in fantasy hockey, you always

970
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,719
want to find a context of where you are with

971
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,360
respect to the rest of the league, and that's going

972
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,320
to be much different for someone that may be in

973
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,760
the middle of the pack, and the trades that you're

974
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,960
trying to make if you're trying to avoid relegation is

975
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,440
going to look a lot different as well. For me,

976
00:48:20,599 --> 00:48:22,960
I had the luxury of when I started, when my

977
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,519
team started to pull it together and I was going

978
00:48:25,519 --> 00:48:28,800
on a streak, suddenly it looked like getting a buy

979
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,079
was within reason, where in the first half of the

980
00:48:31,079 --> 00:48:33,679
season I didn't think that was possible, and that really

981
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,280
started to tailor the way that I was making moves

982
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,519
free agent pickups and the small number of trades that

983
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:44,920
I really made in the Lord Stanley Division. For me,

984
00:48:45,159 --> 00:48:48,320
I'm not focusing on getting your top of the end

985
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:52,639
line up players. I'm focused on really solidifying the bottom.

986
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,280
I think that could probably go for any team. If

987
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,400
you can solidify your roster players from out of the

988
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,639
twenty nine roster players anywhere from like twenty five to

989
00:49:03,639 --> 00:49:06,440
twenty nine, If you can up the level of those

990
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,119
guys that can make the biggest bang for your buck

991
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,880
in terms of what you're willing to give up over

992
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:12,840
the course of the season.

993
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:14,159
Speaker 6: Of course.

994
00:49:15,159 --> 00:49:17,679
Speaker 9: Oh, go ahead, No, I was just going to say,

995
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,480
speaking of course of the season. Next season, you're going

996
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:27,360
to be facing a familiar face, Mason Donna mystics. Can

997
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,000
I tell us a little bit about the relationship with her?

998
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, so Donna is my mother. So I guess I

999
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,920
owe all of my fantasy expertise, or lack thereof, to

1000
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:39,880
my mom.

1001
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 9: My dad.

1002
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 7: I could never convince him to come into the league,

1003
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,360
but he actually just won our long standing it's been

1004
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,039
going for about twenty five years, so he's got some

1005
00:49:50,159 --> 00:49:52,400
skin in the game there as well. My brother plays,

1006
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,679
my brother in law plays, so this is a family affair.

1007
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,639
And I think I mentioned last year during the show

1008
00:49:57,679 --> 00:50:01,320
that Thanksgiving and Christmas time is a little it intriguing

1009
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,760
around the Black household because there's a lot of fighting

1010
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:09,280
for potatoes and the trade offers are flying fast and furious.

1011
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,559
So I'm not sure how old I was when I

1012
00:50:12,639 --> 00:50:16,400
first learned my parents are both horse thieves, but especially

1013
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,519
in fantasy hockey, and I think those in the top

1014
00:50:19,519 --> 00:50:23,280
division are going to quickly learn not to underestimate Donna

1015
00:50:23,519 --> 00:50:28,000
as she vies for just avoiding relegation and tries to

1016
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,960
vie for one of those top spots. It's actually interesting.

1017
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,320
When she first got promoted after winning the division last year,

1018
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,360
the only piece of advice that I gave her was

1019
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,039
don't try to win in your first year when getting promoted,

1020
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:42,880
because you're picking, obviously from the top teams and the

1021
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,079
dispersal that happens with the bottom team. So try to

1022
00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:47,519
get a good footing, have a good draft, but don't

1023
00:50:47,559 --> 00:50:49,639
try to go for it your first year because it's

1024
00:50:49,679 --> 00:50:53,840
probably not going to happen. So looking back now, I

1025
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,480
think she totally avoided my advice, and for good reason,

1026
00:50:57,559 --> 00:51:00,159
because she not only won, I think she won the

1027
00:51:00,159 --> 00:51:03,679
omni track as well, So her final matchup, she didn't

1028
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,360
even really need to win that because she would have

1029
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:07,880
been promoted either way.

1030
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:16,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, she is actually the only two time winner of

1031
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,559
in our league. She got promoted twice back to back.

1032
00:51:19,639 --> 00:51:23,000
That's pretty impressive. And the other thing that's crazy impressive

1033
00:51:23,159 --> 00:51:26,480
is that she was winning the last day by so much,

1034
00:51:26,519 --> 00:51:28,360
like you said, in a matchup that she really didn't

1035
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,599
need to win because she would have been promoted anyways.

1036
00:51:31,079 --> 00:51:33,079
But she messed up on the last day and went

1037
00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:36,039
over the games played limit by what was this the moment,

1038
00:51:36,039 --> 00:51:38,719
like a hundred. She ended up losing out on over

1039
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,239
one hundred points and still won because she was so

1040
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,760
far ahead. It's just it's the most baller move I

1041
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:45,440
can imagine.

1042
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 9: Act.

1043
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,119
Speaker 3: Actually, I don't even care. I'll blow this day and

1044
00:51:49,159 --> 00:51:49,800
I'll still win.

1045
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,079
Speaker 9: Yeah. I ended up winning by a slim margin of

1046
00:51:54,159 --> 00:51:55,320
eighteen points.

1047
00:51:57,039 --> 00:52:01,079
Speaker 3: Flex. So Mason, how are you going to handle the

1048
00:52:01,199 --> 00:52:03,559
competing with your mom in that league, knowing how competitive

1049
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:04,199
she is?

1050
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,599
Speaker 7: It's a good question. I think the first thing is

1051
00:52:09,679 --> 00:52:13,639
to watch your trade inbox fill up pretty quickly, because

1052
00:52:13,639 --> 00:52:16,960
I'm guessing she's probably one of the most active traders

1053
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,199
in the entire number of divisions and number of teams

1054
00:52:20,199 --> 00:52:22,800
that we have, and for whatever reason, she knocks some

1055
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,920
clearly out of the park. And I think that if

1056
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:32,480
she didn't get promoted this year, she traded for Crosby

1057
00:52:32,519 --> 00:52:34,719
and I think a Vechkin and a few others, so

1058
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,599
her squad probably wouldn't look the same in a couple

1059
00:52:38,639 --> 00:52:41,239
of years if she didn't get promoted. But of course

1060
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,039
that's what the tidy is all about, right, You got

1061
00:52:43,079 --> 00:52:45,719
to take that risk, try to move up as quickly

1062
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,199
as possible to the next division, and for her that

1063
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,519
means the Lord Stanley. So there's going to be some

1064
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,519
good banter back and forth, I'm sure, both on Discord

1065
00:52:55,639 --> 00:52:58,679
and also outside sounds good.

1066
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 3: Do you guys have anything on you want to comment on.

1067
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:06,320
We're a little over what we expected time wise, but

1068
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,000
we're good. If you have anything else you want to

1069
00:53:08,119 --> 00:53:13,119
comment on, Siman, was that all the things you had?

1070
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm good.

1071
00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 3: Victor Mason, did you have anything else you want to

1072
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,639
maybe any advice where you you missed this question? You

1073
00:53:22,639 --> 00:53:25,239
asked that one if they had advice for people coming

1074
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,079
into the league or other fantasy league. Did you learned

1075
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:29,400
a lot from in tidy Yeah.

1076
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 7: Something that I had written down previously is the way

1077
00:53:34,039 --> 00:53:37,920
to supplement your team is obviously through prospects. But the

1078
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,360
maximum number of games one hundred that a prospect can

1079
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,400
continue to be a prospect is a difficult one because

1080
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,519
most don't actually most prospects don't actually start hitting their

1081
00:53:48,559 --> 00:53:52,199
potential until let's say a game one eighty or even

1082
00:53:52,199 --> 00:53:55,119
two hundred. And what that means is that oftentimes when

1083
00:53:55,159 --> 00:53:58,679
you get a prospect that gets promoted they're actually below

1084
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,280
replacement level, So yeah, to make that decision, do I

1085
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,760
hold on to them and just fill up a roster

1086
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,400
spot until they start reaching that potential, which might be

1087
00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:11,760
a year, maybe even two years later. The few prospects

1088
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,159
I'm trying to think, maybe like a guy on my team,

1089
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:18,239
Simone Vanson is maybe the exception to that rule, right

1090
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:22,360
So other outside of that top tier blue chip prospect,

1091
00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:25,800
most of the prospects that are sitting on our farm

1092
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,079
team right now probably aren't going to come in and

1093
00:54:30,119 --> 00:54:33,599
start earning points right away. So I think it's important

1094
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,079
to realize that you want to stagger your prospects. So

1095
00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:39,000
you don't want five guys coming up all at the

1096
00:54:39,039 --> 00:54:41,280
same time and graduating. You want to make sure that

1097
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,960
the guys that are coming up that you're making good

1098
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,519
decisions on the ones that you think are going to

1099
00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:49,280
be relevant. And the one thing that I probably learned

1100
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,119
from Jack actually is that the guys that can make

1101
00:54:52,159 --> 00:54:55,000
an impact and just give you a solid baseline to

1102
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:59,320
begin with, or the guys that have solid blocks and hits,

1103
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:02,960
and then over time they start to earn maybe more power,

1104
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,320
play time, or just the deployment starts to increase and

1105
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,679
that can be offensive zone face offs, or that could

1106
00:55:09,679 --> 00:55:11,920
be just the number of minutes that they're earning inside

1107
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:16,159
of a game. It becomes very important to nail those

1108
00:55:16,199 --> 00:55:18,880
guys early on. So even if they're a little bit

1109
00:55:19,079 --> 00:55:21,840
below replacement and they're not picking up points, they're still

1110
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,519
earning you some points, maybe not as many as you

1111
00:55:25,559 --> 00:55:27,119
hope for down the road, so.

1112
00:55:27,079 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 8: I think that's key.

1113
00:55:28,119 --> 00:55:31,079
Speaker 7: Personally, I had to jettison a couple guys that I

1114
00:55:31,159 --> 00:55:33,920
really like before the season. Jackson Blake was one of them.

1115
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:38,079
I figured he would play the full season, but I

1116
00:55:38,119 --> 00:55:40,440
didn't think he'd make as big of an impact as

1117
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,719
he did right away. But he'll quickly come up to

1118
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,719
that hundred game threshold pretty soon as well, early on

1119
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,000
next season. Zach Bulduke was another guy I'm trying to think.

1120
00:55:49,079 --> 00:55:51,320
Jordan Spence was another guy that graduated at the end

1121
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,679
of last season. For me, and all those guys I've

1122
00:55:53,679 --> 00:55:56,199
had to trade away just because they weren't meeting the

1123
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:00,000
replacement level players at the time when I traded them.

1124
00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:03,000
So I know that's probably going to come back to

1125
00:56:03,039 --> 00:56:05,000
haunt me a little bit later on, but at the

1126
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,800
same time, that's part of becoming the champion of the

1127
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,679
league as well, right that you have to make those

1128
00:56:10,679 --> 00:56:13,679
tough decisions and try to get roster players NHL players

1129
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,440
that are fulfilling their potential right away.

1130
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:17,599
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1131
00:56:17,639 --> 00:56:21,079
Speaker 1: One bit of advice I have is just a plug

1132
00:56:21,159 --> 00:56:24,800
for Victor and going to Ultra life, is that you

1133
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,760
can use him for the draft. I used them a

1134
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,159
lot for the draft and for just bouncing trades off

1135
00:56:30,159 --> 00:56:32,599
I did. I think I counted ten trades during the year,

1136
00:56:33,079 --> 00:56:36,239
but everyone I thought it was close. I gave him like,

1137
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,840
here's my options, even in the draft, and here's my options.

1138
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,960
Here's what I want to do. Sometimes he was like,

1139
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,440
absolutely not, don't do that. And like you said earlier,

1140
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,039
with one of the trades where I got Ov and

1141
00:56:47,159 --> 00:56:50,320
Crosby and Spurgeon, I think all in one trade flipping

1142
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,079
them for Jason Robertson and Young and Asp you better win.

1143
00:56:54,639 --> 00:56:56,440
But that's a good trade. And so that was really

1144
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,559
helpful for me just to get an idea of what

1145
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:03,639
having that co GM almost is really helpful. So, yeah,

1146
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,360
that's a little self defeating because the more people that

1147
00:57:06,519 --> 00:57:12,119
use that will give less time for me. But at

1148
00:57:12,159 --> 00:57:14,800
some point out sprout wings and fly on my own.

1149
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 6: I know.

1150
00:57:17,039 --> 00:57:19,519
Speaker 3: I'm still surprised God the more people don't do that,

1151
00:57:19,639 --> 00:57:21,360
And it's totally fine if you do. And I will

1152
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,639
always tell people if both parties are talking to me

1153
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,079
because they I think it's fair for them to know that,

1154
00:57:28,119 --> 00:57:30,239
which has happened. Not as often as you would think,

1155
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,360
but it's it is helpful, yeah, because sometimes you think

1156
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,480
something sounds good and then it's good to get a

1157
00:57:35,519 --> 00:57:38,199
reality check. And most of the ones you came with

1158
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,960
once you decided you're pushing your chips and made sense.

1159
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,519
But it's always good to get some feedback.

1160
00:57:43,599 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, at the end of the day, we're here to

1161
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,559
have fun too, and I know it's more fun if

1162
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:51,280
you make the decisions for yourself and not asking somebody else.

1163
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,679
But I didn't get any less joy out of winning

1164
00:57:55,239 --> 00:57:57,760
just because I use Victor, so that's that's a plug

1165
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:58,639
for him.

1166
00:57:59,239 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 4: Usually victory sparks joy.

1167
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 9: It's not a problem, and just a heads up to

1168
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,760
all managers as well. I will be sending the Tidy

1169
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,719
Operations Commands Hub end of season post mortem, which is

1170
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,880
a little questionnaire that if you want to take the

1171
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,840
time to answer, give me some feedback just on the

1172
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,840
whole season. That'd be g really appreciate. If it goes

1173
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,760
to your junk and you don't see it, then that's

1174
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,800
not a big deal either. But if you do take

1175
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:27,719
the time, thank you.

1176
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for doing that, Simon, and thanks to the

1177
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,519
whole Tidy Commission team. Unfortunately Tim and Ryan couldn't be here,

1178
00:58:37,079 --> 00:58:39,440
and Mark is also part of that team, but Mark

1179
00:58:39,559 --> 00:58:41,760
Craftser started a new job at the beginning of this year,

1180
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,159
so he hasn't been as available, but hopefully we'll be

1181
00:58:45,679 --> 00:58:48,239
as a move into the next season. And wanted to

1182
00:58:48,239 --> 00:58:52,840
thank all you division winners, Scott, Kevin, Sasha for joining us,

1183
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:57,519
Mason great job, and Donna who didn't quite make it unfortunately,

1184
00:58:57,719 --> 00:59:00,000
but great job. And we're looking forward to next season.

1185
00:59:00,119 --> 00:59:02,400
And if you're at all interested in joining this really

1186
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,599
fun league, highly encourage it. You will probably start at

1187
00:59:06,599 --> 00:59:08,639
the bottom, there might be some people who actually get

1188
00:59:08,639 --> 00:59:10,320
to start in Tier three. We'll see how it all

1189
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,880
shakes out. But get your name on the interest level,

1190
00:59:13,159 --> 00:59:15,039
on the interest list as soon as possible and we

1191
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can start filling in the open spaces. It's a good

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time and you learn a lot from the other league

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mates and hopefully, as I saw in Litz from this year.

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It actually made me want to be in that division

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almost because they had a lot of fun in there.

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So it don't be discouraged about starting at the bottom.

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It's a good time either way. All right, thanks gents

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for joining us, and we will we'll definitely chat again soon.

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Speaker 6: Appreciate it. Thanks for mananking forward to next season.

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Speaker 4: All right, we'd be right back to close out the show.

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If you've got skills you'd like to lend the show,

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but today this week is going to be about the

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that team itself is worthy of its own episode. Follow

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