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<v Speaker 4>Sax and Kate's and am here on your home in

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<v Speaker 4>us on this Monday morning, October twenty eight, twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 4>as we are together in studio here at ANTI seventy

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<v Speaker 4>LA Sports leading you up to Game three of the

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<v Speaker 4>World Series. Dodgers on Deck starts to four o'clock. First

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<v Speaker 4>Bitch coming up at five toh eight from the Gallapin

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<v Speaker 4>Motors broadcast both Saxon Kates and the am brought to

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<v Speaker 4>you by Chef Moriitos seasoning this seasing partner of the Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a World Series time bring out the chef and you.

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<v Speaker 4>Coming up in about twenty minutes, Doctor David Chow, longtime

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<v Speaker 4>Chargers team doctor, will join us. He will give us

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<v Speaker 4>his thoughts on this show. Hey Otani shoulder injury that

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<v Speaker 4>he suffered in the seventh inning in Game two. David

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<v Speaker 4>Vasse is in New York with the team, traveled out

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<v Speaker 4>there yesterday and will join us in the eight o'clock hour.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll hear from Game three starter Walker Buehler coming up

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<v Speaker 4>at eight o'clock. Steve's keys to a Game three win

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<v Speaker 4>coming up as well. The shoulder injury to showy Otani

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<v Speaker 4>at first glance, just looked like a normal slide into

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<v Speaker 4>second base and the seventh inning, for the final out

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<v Speaker 4>of the bottom of the seventh he rolled over onto

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<v Speaker 4>his stomach and started to grimace and then held his

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<v Speaker 4>left arm and the doctors for the Dodgers out in

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<v Speaker 4>the field. Dave Roberts ran out in the field. He

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<v Speaker 4>left the game of the seventh inning, and now we

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<v Speaker 4>find out it is a shoulder sublexation and tests were

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<v Speaker 4>done on it. He flew out separately from the team yesterday,

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<v Speaker 4>did not work out with the team on the field

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<v Speaker 4>a Yankee Stadium, but did do some baseball activities after

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<v Speaker 4>they had left to test out that shoulder. As Dave

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<v Speaker 4>Roberts alluded to, the shoulder injury is never a fun

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<v Speaker 4>thing for a player. And this is a shoey Otani

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<v Speaker 4>already coming off a Tommy John surgery, albeit to his

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<v Speaker 4>right elbow. This is his left shoulder. When you saw

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<v Speaker 4>the slide, initially it didn't look too bad. Sex he

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<v Speaker 4>kind of just looked like maybe a little pressure was

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<v Speaker 4>put on his left arm, maybe a wrist, maybe a

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<v Speaker 4>finger or something. But the shoulder is something you never want.

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<v Speaker 5>To mess with, no, and and much more complicated than

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<v Speaker 5>an elbow. And I'm really looking forward to talking to

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<v Speaker 5>doctor Chow and finding more about, you know, exactly what's

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<v Speaker 5>going on with him. Of course, they had left shoulder subluxation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I have no idea what that is, but I guess

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<v Speaker 5>it's when you hurt your left shoulder. Partial dislocation, So

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<v Speaker 5>I guess the shoulder doesn't completely pop out, Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 5>there's damage to the shoulder. Then I had one of those.

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<v Speaker 5>I had one of those when I was sixteen years old.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to I want to ask doctor child about that,

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<v Speaker 5>because I've always wondered I was sliding head first in

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<v Speaker 5>the home plate, you know, you know, sixteen and stupid.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was in American Legion baseball right before I signed.

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<v Speaker 5>I was a maybe sophomore in high school. And I

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<v Speaker 5>slid in a home plate and my hand caught the

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<v Speaker 5>catcher's like foot as I was that he had blocked

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<v Speaker 5>in front of home plate. And I kept going and

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<v Speaker 5>my shoulder stayed back there where I was sliding, and

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<v Speaker 5>I remember rolling over like show Hey did, and my

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<v Speaker 5>shoulder was really hurting. And you know what, all through

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<v Speaker 5>my baseball career, it never kept me from really doing anything,

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<v Speaker 5>but it was always a reminder of that terrible decision

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<v Speaker 5>to slide head first in the home plate when I

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<v Speaker 5>was sixteen years old. I could always feel like when

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<v Speaker 5>I raised my shoulders up, if you can just think

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<v Speaker 5>about and pull your shoulders back a little bit, if

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<v Speaker 5>there's any time where I can pull my shoulder, I

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<v Speaker 5>can feel how tentative and weak it is back there.

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<v Speaker 5>Is it a or it's just like, oh boy, that

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<v Speaker 5>I better'm not going any further, that he's going to

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<v Speaker 5>pop out. So it's always been weak, but it never

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<v Speaker 5>bothered my baseball career. I was really lucky. And that's

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<v Speaker 5>why I'm curious about this. Was show Hey, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 5>something that he can play with that's not going to

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<v Speaker 5>be debilitating. Yeah, but that's kind of how it was

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<v Speaker 5>for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I've heard in the last twenty four hours,

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<v Speaker 4>I've heard from amateur doctors on social media to actual

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<v Speaker 4>doctors on social media that put up put out some videos.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's why I'm excited to talk to doctor child

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<v Speaker 4>about this. Get an actual orthopedic surgeon to talk about

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<v Speaker 4>this injury and somebody's been around professional sports teams for

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<v Speaker 4>the better part of the last thirty years, to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about this sub subluxation of the shoulder and is it

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<v Speaker 4>a tear of the labor I've read doctors, That's what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm curious about. It Did it just pop out and

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<v Speaker 4>it's and it's now it's inflamed and it's gonna or

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<v Speaker 4>did it create scar tissue and is that why it

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<v Speaker 4>feels this way?

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<v Speaker 6>Or right?

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, and I really have heard doctors talk

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<v Speaker 5>about this. In the time I've been around that show,

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<v Speaker 5>are really like there's a lot that they still are

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<v Speaker 5>tentative about. You know, it's not a perfected thing yet.

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<v Speaker 5>About all the things that they do in their course,

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<v Speaker 5>they've come a long ways. But when you're talking to

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<v Speaker 5>compare that with an elbow night and day. From what

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<v Speaker 5>I understand, and that's what doctor Chow would tell us.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you know, if there's a tear in the

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<v Speaker 4>labor and does that mean surgery after the season. Certainly

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<v Speaker 4>he's not throwing here in the World Series. He's it's

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<v Speaker 4>his left shoulder, so that's good as a hitter, right

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<v Speaker 4>as it's his non front shoulder. As a left handed hitter,

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<v Speaker 4>that'd be his right shoulder. Fixing the pictures his power arm.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess you could call it. I think in all.

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<v Speaker 5>Things considered, it's probably what you'd rather have as opposed

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<v Speaker 5>to something on the right side. Of course, Okay, because

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<v Speaker 5>he's pitching, you know, that's big problems if it's on

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<v Speaker 5>the right side. And again mine was on my left,

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<v Speaker 5>so it didn't bother me throwing up.

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<v Speaker 3>But what about swinging though, No, it just it did.

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<v Speaker 3>It didn't. It didn't bother me that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not going to pop out when you swing right. Soreness,

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<v Speaker 4>the flexibility, the range of motion. And remember when.

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<v Speaker 5>You're hitting two my left your left elbow from a

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<v Speaker 5>right hand hitter, your elbow's down. You know if you

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<v Speaker 5>raise your elbow up. I can feel it right now

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<v Speaker 5>when I just raised my elbow up. What a difference

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<v Speaker 5>that would make. But do you never really do that

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<v Speaker 5>in baseball when you're hitting your the left elbows always down.

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<v Speaker 4>So watching show Hey on the ground, I just kept thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>oh no, not now exactly is that what you're thinking?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>And then I thought, which arm is this I'm looking at.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, okay, it's the left arm. Yeah, okay, thank goodness,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess because he's coming back from Tommy John surgery

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<v Speaker 4>on the right arm again and we want to protect

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<v Speaker 4>that elbow. We want to protect that arm right because

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<v Speaker 4>he's hopefully going to start pitching again next season. And

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<v Speaker 4>then I hear shoulder sublexation, partial dislocation, and I've heard

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<v Speaker 4>the word tear of the labor I'm thrown around the

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<v Speaker 4>last twenty four hours. Let's hope it's not that case. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>But then I think labram shoulder gosh darn it. Thankfully

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<v Speaker 4>it's not the right shoulder that he had to be

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<v Speaker 4>coming back from a laboram surgery throwing shoulder again.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's problems down the road. How long are we

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<v Speaker 5>going to get him as a pitcher? Maybe a year

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<v Speaker 5>or two?

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<v Speaker 6>Is that?

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<v Speaker 3>And that's it? Price is averted? There is he going? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Is he going to become an outfielder? Now?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, the bottom line was show hey, dude is

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<v Speaker 5>so talented. I mean, let's say, worst case scenario, it

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<v Speaker 5>happened to his right shoulder and he couldn't throw it.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, no doubt he could be converted to an outfielder,

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<v Speaker 5>no question. You know he could do it with his

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<v Speaker 5>speed and you know the way he throws in everything.

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<v Speaker 5>But we don't want to even go there. Let's let

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<v Speaker 5>him be the media that he is right now and

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<v Speaker 5>see the great pitching that's coming next year. And of

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<v Speaker 5>course all the offense.

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<v Speaker 4>I love all the Dodger fans who saw that he

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<v Speaker 4>did not travel with the team and immediately like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if he's at LAX. I wonder if he's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be on my flight to New York. Listen, and

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<v Speaker 4>he's taking a PJA a private jet, yeah, to New York.

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<v Speaker 4>He's Shoeotani. He can get there when he needs to

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<v Speaker 4>get there, and he did arrive after the team got

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<v Speaker 4>to New York yesterday. They did not fly out after

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<v Speaker 4>the game on Saturday night. They were scheduled too, but

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<v Speaker 4>I think a two nothing lead in this series, they

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<v Speaker 4>didn't want to travel all night, rather fly early Sunday morning,

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<v Speaker 4>get there in the afternoon. Workout last night, which they did.

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<v Speaker 4>Shoeotani worked out after the team was finishing their workout.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll find out how he felt today. I guess from

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<v Speaker 4>Dave Roberts when he speaks to the media a couple

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<v Speaker 4>hours before first pitch. But the only news we got

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<v Speaker 4>officially yesterday was from Dave Roberts, and you heard that

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<v Speaker 4>audio last hour saying that he expects shoey Otani to

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<v Speaker 4>play in Game three. And at this point, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>doctor Chow will explain him more and give us more information,

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<v Speaker 4>but I get the feeling it's a pain tolerance, yeah

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<v Speaker 4>for show at this point how much can how much

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<v Speaker 4>can you play through? How much are you willing to

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<v Speaker 4>go through? And if it's gonna further damage your shoulder,

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<v Speaker 4>that's one thing. But if it's just something that it's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna bother you, it's not gonna damage it anymore. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>But how much can you play through the pain? Hopefully

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<v Speaker 4>he can play through it. And you wonder if he'd

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<v Speaker 4>have some assistance in dealing with that pain, would they

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<v Speaker 4>would they reject something? Yeah, would they inject it? I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, but you know again, doctor Chow will tell us.

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<v Speaker 4>But still, hey, I thought, when it's just a partial

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<v Speaker 4>separation and he's back, you know, could pop out and

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<v Speaker 4>come back.

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<v Speaker 5>It's still not gonna bee hundred percent. But like Dave

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<v Speaker 5>Roberts said, he felt better today than yesterday. Tomorrow, he's

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<v Speaker 5>probably gonna feel better than today. That's good news. And

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<v Speaker 5>if that's just it, he's just gonna need some time

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<v Speaker 5>to rest. Let's go out to the phone. Todaight six

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<v Speaker 4>David Vess joins this next hour, Will Hood from Walker

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<v Speaker 4>Bueler next hour as well Oscar and Baldwin Park. You're

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<v Speaker 4>next up on m five seventy l A Sports, Hi, Oscar.

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<v Speaker 7>Guys, good morning, missus Stags, good.

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<v Speaker 3>Morning, Oscar, good morning morning.

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<v Speaker 7>Beautiful morning, beautiful way to start Monday. Dodgers are up

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not all E was two, now get it, get

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<v Speaker 6>Three?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, maybe I get a game and they's close it

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<v Speaker 7>out on the game five or four whatever, but real

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<v Speaker 7>quick on Freddie Freeman's home run. That night, I was

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<v Speaker 7>working late. I had to. I had to go help

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<v Speaker 7>by trades. I had to go hop out with something.

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<v Speaker 7>Getting frustrated. I was going guy kid, going back and forth,

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<v Speaker 7>hearing on the radio that I was hearing it play

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<v Speaker 7>little by little as they were down, and then I left.

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<v Speaker 7>I was frustrated, and I swear I turned Brittany to

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<v Speaker 7>the radio, wanted to hear the game, and bam heard

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<v Speaker 7>it right, Freddy Man. That was man. One thing I

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<v Speaker 7>I heard it first, and yeah where every time where

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<v Speaker 7>I live, at anytime. The Dodgers scored the light fireworks

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know. And then after about two minutes ago,

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<v Speaker 7>remember I was driving my work mad and I heard

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<v Speaker 4>Way, awesome, Oscar, appreciate it. Oscer, thanks for listening to

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<v Speaker 4>a five seventy l A Sports. Patrick in Thousand Oaks.

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<v Speaker 4>You're next up on a five seventy l A Sports

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<v Speaker 4>with Sacks and Kate's and am Patrick, how you doing?

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<v Speaker 8>I'm doing well. K C Sacks my all time favorite

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<v Speaker 8>Dodger and k C my all time favorite workaholics. But hey,

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<v Speaker 8>I have a quick question for Steve. Yeah, late in

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<v Speaker 8>the game when Chasm stole second and then they the Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 8>inextricably just kind of let him take third. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>they didn't have Monthy playing in or even double play depths,

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<v Speaker 8>could have been brutal without Freddy's heroics, it would have

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<v Speaker 8>why do you think they had him play him back

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<v Speaker 8>so deep?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? We wanted to take that. Yeah, go ahead, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>thanks Patrick, Patrick, thanks for you call. Patrick.

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<v Speaker 5>First of all, I wanted to allude about you said

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<v Speaker 5>about Tim Kates about he's a workaholic. Yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 5>he is. You know you you mentioned the word work

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<v Speaker 5>to Tim and he gets drunk. So I mean it's

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<v Speaker 5>a problem, right, it's a problem. We're just having fun

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick.

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<v Speaker 5>No, Look, so I'm with you on this. I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>an advocate of the over shifting. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit overrated. I think as a middle infielder, you

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<v Speaker 5>always pinched the two guys at middle in for the

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<v Speaker 5>shortstop in the second basement a little bit two steps up,

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<v Speaker 5>two steps over towards second base, because you never want

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<v Speaker 5>to give up the chance. How many times have we

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<v Speaker 5>seen where they're shifting it's a double play situation and

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<v Speaker 5>they hit a ground ball right to the right side

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<v Speaker 5>of second base and it's through for a base hit.

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<v Speaker 5>That should be a double play every single time. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't like giving up the chance to turn a double

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<v Speaker 5>play because it's a killer for the other side. And

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<v Speaker 5>as far as third base is the same thing, lots

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<v Speaker 5>of times what you see now, Patrick, it's a foot

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<v Speaker 5>race between the runner after a secondary lead on the

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<v Speaker 5>pitch and how fast can the third basement get over

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<v Speaker 5>from the exaggerated shift that he's now engaging in. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not a I think you got to protect your base

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<v Speaker 5>and whatnot. And I get the shifting part. We shifted,

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<v Speaker 5>but we didn't do it so much that it becomes

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that's it.

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<v Speaker 4>The speed element of the game is coming back into baseball.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it's a beautiful thing to see. We saw it

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<v Speaker 4>with shoey Otani's stealing fifty bases this season. But to

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<v Speaker 4>see what Jazz Chisholm can do on the bass pass,

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<v Speaker 4>yeah talented, Yeah, I mean he really is the base

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<v Speaker 4>hit next thing, you know, it's like watching Ellie Della

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<v Speaker 4>Cruiz with the Cincinnati risk a single. Two pitches later,

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<v Speaker 4>he's standing on third base. Right, He's a threat And

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<v Speaker 4>does that change the game or what?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 5>Seriously, absolutely talk to the best fielders in baseball. You

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<v Speaker 5>talk especially the outfielders. They have a tendency to look

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<v Speaker 5>up just a beat before they should because that that

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<v Speaker 5>up to a little bit too soon. And even gold

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<v Speaker 5>glove outfits. We talked to Andre Ethier about it the

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<v Speaker 5>other day. He said the same thing. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>that speed element of the game makes you look up

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit. This guy won the gold glove and

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<v Speaker 5>have a chance, a chance to make some errors that

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<v Speaker 5>way because speed kills. It absolutely does, and the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 5>were fortunate to hang on and get the win in

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<v Speaker 5>Game one with the Grand Slam, and they get the

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<v Speaker 5>win in Game two on Saturday night. Now in two

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<v Speaker 5>oh series lead Game three with Walker Bueller on the mound,

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<v Speaker 5>coming up at five oh eight this afternoon. Chris and

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<v Speaker 5>your Bolina joins us now here on a five to

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<v Speaker 5>seven he with Sax and Kates and am how you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Chris?

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, guys, good morning.

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<v Speaker 9>How are you Chris?

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<v Speaker 8>Good, good, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm super excited. That Game one walkoff was absolutely nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>That was like a first round knockdown. I mean, hard

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<v Speaker 1>to think that the can come back. But the dislocation

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<v Speaker 1>of Pani's shoulder is pretty concerning. I mean, those happened

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<v Speaker 1>pretty frequently once, they happened once, so I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what the plan is, but it's kind of concerning.

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<v Speaker 4>It is concerning. Chris we're gonna get an update from

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<v Speaker 4>dctri Choo, who has been around professional athletes and worked

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<v Speaker 4>for the Chargers as their team physician for two plus decades.

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<v Speaker 4>He wighed in on social media over the weekend. He's

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<v Speaker 4>with the Sports Injury Central and a doctor still in

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<v Speaker 4>this injury. What he's seen in past instants with guys

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<v Speaker 4>having shoulder injuries. I mean for the Dodgers, he just

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<v Speaker 4>had to go back four years to twenty twenty. In

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<v Speaker 4>the NLCS, the Dodgers were facing the Braves and Keiky

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<v Speaker 4>Hernandez and Cody Bellinger did a celebration where they kind

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<v Speaker 4>of locked arms and the shoulder and Cody Bellinger popped.

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<v Speaker 4>He heard it in the celebration. He has still played

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<v Speaker 4>in the World Series. Yeah, and wasn't as productive in

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<v Speaker 4>the World Series, but he's still played great defense in

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<v Speaker 4>remember a month later he had surgery. Doctor Latrash performed

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<v Speaker 4>surgery on his shoulder and Cody Bellinger in twenty eighteen

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<v Speaker 4>or twenty twenty one, excuse me. After that surgery in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty had a slow start to the season. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean it's a ten week rehab after that shoulder injury,

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<v Speaker 4>and he came back in twenty twenty one and was

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<v Speaker 4>slow to get going out of the box. You can

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<v Speaker 4>tell the shoulder was still hurting him. He even afterwards

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<v Speaker 4>was telling David Vassy that it took a few months

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<v Speaker 4>for him to feel right at the plate in twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty one coming back from that shoulder injury, just the

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<v Speaker 4>stiffness and his swing and feeling comfortable again in the

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<v Speaker 4>it affected Cody Bellinger even after he heard it in

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this could be, you know, obviously a long term thing.

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<v Speaker 5>If it pops out of the socket and gets back

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<v Speaker 5>in it's still a lot of inflammation in there. And

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but now you walk around with one arm hanging.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of weird though.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd become all the way right handed now, can't do

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<v Speaker 3>He is Steve Sax I'm Tim Kates.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for being with us on this Monday morning here

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<v Speaker 4>on Saxon K's in the Am. You're a home of

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<v Speaker 4>the show Hey Otani and the Dodgers, A two oh

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<v Speaker 4>from doctor David Chow, sports orthopedic surgeon and specialist. We'll

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<v Speaker 4>check in with him, get his thoughts on this injury,

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<v Speaker 4>how it's gonna affect show Hey, and what kind of

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<v Speaker 4>production can we expect out of show Hey here in

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<v Speaker 3>We'll hear from doctor Chow.

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<v Speaker 4>Am here on n five seventy LA Sports. Steve Sacks,

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<v Speaker 4>Tim Kates and you on your home of show, Hey

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<v Speaker 4>Otani and the Los Angeles Dodgers, AM five seventy LA

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<v Speaker 4>series Game three. Later on this afternoon, in the Bronx

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<v Speaker 4>Dodgers on decads started at four o'clock. We'll have first

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<v Speaker 4>five to oh eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Will he play? Won't he play? Show?

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<v Speaker 4>Ao Tani suffers a shoulder injury in Game two on

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<v Speaker 4>Saturday Night. Had to come out of the game in

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<v Speaker 4>the seventh inning after sliding into second base and injuring

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<v Speaker 4>his shoulder. We've talked about it, but now we get

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<v Speaker 4>an expert's opinion. Doctor David Chowd joins US now internationally

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<v Speaker 4>recognized orthopedic surgeon sports medicine specialists. You can find out

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<v Speaker 4>more at the Sports Injury Central siicscore dot com, and

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<v Speaker 4>he joins us this morning here on a FI seventy

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<v Speaker 4>LA sports Doctor Chowd, Good morning, Thanks for coming on this.

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<v Speaker 6>Morning, Thanks for having me, guys. I grew up in

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<v Speaker 6>LA and I was a Dodger fan. And yes, don't

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<v Speaker 6>get confused my moniker's pro football doc has I've been

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<v Speaker 6>a longtime NFL team position, but I've helped as a

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<v Speaker 3>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>We're glad to have you this morning getting your expertise

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<v Speaker 4>on the shoulder injury to show Hey, o Tani. At

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<v Speaker 4>first sight, it didn't see Mike anything, just to slide

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<v Speaker 4>into second base. He rolled over on his stomach and

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<v Speaker 4>grimaced and grabbed his arm was helped off the field.

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<v Speaker 4>We find out it's a sublexation of the shoulder. Can

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<v Speaker 4>you explain to Dodger fans out there what exactly that is?

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<v Speaker 4>How severe an injury or not of an injury it is?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, it was evident to me. I was

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<v Speaker 6>when my phone went off with the Sports Injury Central staff,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, I've got one of those big Z

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<v Speaker 6>a little iPad. They sent the video and immediately we

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<v Speaker 6>tweeted and put out that he sub luck slash dislocated

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<v Speaker 6>his shoulder. What that means is the ball and socket joint.

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<v Speaker 6>The ball came out of the socket, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 6>The difference is in the show, it's not a true

425
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<v Speaker 6>ball in socket like in the hip. It's more of

426
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<v Speaker 6>a golf ball on a tee and that's what allows

427
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<v Speaker 6>the mobility. And the question is did he tear the

428
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<v Speaker 6>labrum and then the ball doesn't stay on the tee

429
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<v Speaker 6>as well. When you're golfing, it can stay on, but

430
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<v Speaker 6>it's a more delicate balancing. That's what we saw initially.

431
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<v Speaker 6>And the question is did he tear castle did he

432
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<v Speaker 6>tear part of the labrum? They haven't said. Look, I

433
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<v Speaker 6>get the optimism for him maybe trying to play, but

434
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<v Speaker 6>the question is how well might he play. Look, he's

435
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<v Speaker 6>a Otani, he's the best player in the league. He's

436
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<v Speaker 6>the MVP. Even with this injury. Is he one of

437
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<v Speaker 6>the top nine dollgar batters? Yeah, for sure, But is

438
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<v Speaker 6>he show hey with Tani? Is the question. Good news

439
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<v Speaker 6>is he doesn't play in the field at all. The

440
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<v Speaker 6>good news is this is his back shoulder, which makes

441
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<v Speaker 6>it a little better for hitting. But it's still going

442
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<v Speaker 6>to be a little issue the way that his swing is,

443
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<v Speaker 6>and it depends on how to sore his shoulder will be.

444
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<v Speaker 6>It's going to affect him even if he plays.

445
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<v Speaker 3>Doctor Child. Good to be with you.

446
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<v Speaker 5>This is Steve Sachs, and I wanted to ask you

447
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<v Speaker 5>a little bit more about this subluxation. I had an

448
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<v Speaker 5>instance where I explained to Tim here I slid into

449
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<v Speaker 5>home plate in my you know, my arm, my hand

450
00:20:13.680 --> 00:20:16.559
<v Speaker 5>hooked onto the catcher's foot and I kept going and

451
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<v Speaker 5>my shoulder stayed there. So I kind of really ripped

452
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<v Speaker 5>this thing when I was sixteen years old, And you know,

453
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<v Speaker 5>the shoulder was kind of like at a forty five

454
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<v Speaker 5>degree angle. When you see Shohey go down to the ground,

455
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<v Speaker 5>you know, his arm was up a bit, so the

456
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<v Speaker 5>shoulder was more at that forty five degree angle as well.

457
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<v Speaker 5>And we were talking about Bellinger in his celebration when

458
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<v Speaker 5>he jumped up and high five you know keiy k hernettez. Again,

459
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<v Speaker 5>the shoulder was at a forty five degree angle with

460
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<v Speaker 5>the arm up, and he had a little bit of

461
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<v Speaker 5>a subluxation there. So is this the common way this

462
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<v Speaker 5>happens or is it just what is the main way

463
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<v Speaker 5>that this does appear to happen.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you're absolutely right, Stephen, big fan from growing up

465
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<v Speaker 6>from you and even before you with the say to

466
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<v Speaker 6>Russell the Lope Cigarvy in the whole deal, even before

467
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<v Speaker 6>your time. But in any case, you're absolutely right. That's

468
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<v Speaker 6>the position that's vulnerable when you're upper outer quadrant in

469
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<v Speaker 6>a you know, if you were a picture with a

470
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<v Speaker 6>right shoulder with a lis left shoulder up and you

471
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<v Speaker 6>know when you're in the talking phase, that's the danger

472
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<v Speaker 6>area when your arm is up and away from you,

473
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<v Speaker 6>as you say. And that's what happened with Showey's sliding,

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<v Speaker 6>That's what happened with you. That's what happened with the

475
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<v Speaker 6>Fernando Tatist down in San Diego where I live now,

476
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<v Speaker 6>last year out of the year before a couple of times.

477
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<v Speaker 6>And here's the issue. I'm not trying to be a

478
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<v Speaker 6>baseball expert. You are, Steve, But the way show Hay's

479
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<v Speaker 6>stance is you look, look in general, back shoulders better

480
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<v Speaker 6>than front shoulder for this type of injury for hitting.

481
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<v Speaker 6>But look at how he holds his bat up high

482
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<v Speaker 6>and buy his ear that back left shoulder kind of

483
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<v Speaker 6>gets up into that quadrant. Will he need to modify

484
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<v Speaker 6>that a little bit to be comfortable. I don't know.

485
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<v Speaker 6>And if he does, what does that do to his

486
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<v Speaker 6>overall swing? You know, small little adjustments at the last second.

487
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<v Speaker 6>And maybe my question for be Steve, not that it

488
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<v Speaker 6>is exactly the same, but could you have played two

489
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<v Speaker 6>days later after you did what you did to your shoulder?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, first of all, doctor Chow.

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<v Speaker 5>Your assessment of his setup and how he gets ready

492
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<v Speaker 5>in that launching position, and how it's elevated right there.

493
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<v Speaker 5>Making even micro changes to that could certainly throw things off.

494
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<v Speaker 5>You're exactly right on the button with that. Now, could

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<v Speaker 5>I have played two days later? I don't think I

496
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<v Speaker 5>could have. This is something that's been with me my

497
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<v Speaker 5>whole life. It's been this way. I never had it

498
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<v Speaker 5>attended to. I just tried to get through it. But

499
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<v Speaker 5>it's still with me today. I don't think I could

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<v Speaker 5>have played two days later, remembering back then.

501
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<v Speaker 6>Well, here, here's everyone's focused on game three night, everyone

502
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<v Speaker 6>focused on Justice World series, and I'm not trying to

503
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<v Speaker 6>be a nacee here. Look is he going to try

504
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<v Speaker 6>and play? I think of course he's going to try,

505
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<v Speaker 6>it's how well is the question. And you know he's

506
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<v Speaker 6>at a reasonable setup too, and you're not going to

507
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<v Speaker 6>Benchotani if he could at any way shape or for

508
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<v Speaker 6>him get out there. But as we look forward, because

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<v Speaker 6>you mentioned the long term and potential, it would not

510
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<v Speaker 6>shock or surprise me if shohe had off season labor

511
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<v Speaker 6>repair surgery. So this doesn't become recurrent, and that's the

512
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<v Speaker 6>subject for after the World Series and so forth, But

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<v Speaker 6>that would not surprise me.

514
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<v Speaker 4>Doctor David Chowd joins us here on a FI seventy

515
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<v Speaker 4>LA sports talking about Showeyotani the shoulder injury in game

516
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<v Speaker 4>two of this World Series. Is it something if he

517
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<v Speaker 4>does play today and continues to play in this World series,

518
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<v Speaker 4>Doctor chow he can further damage the shoulder or is

519
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<v Speaker 4>the damage maybe already done to whatever extent it is

520
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<v Speaker 4>that the labrum. Can he continue to damage it or

521
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<v Speaker 4>what's done is done and he just has to play

522
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<v Speaker 4>through it until he can get him looked out further

523
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<v Speaker 4>in the offseason.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, freak injuries can happen, but thankfully it's baseball and

525
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<v Speaker 6>it's not football. But let me tell you many football

526
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<v Speaker 6>players play through this depends on your position. If you

527
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<v Speaker 6>were a left handed quarterback and this is your left shoulder,

528
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<v Speaker 6>you wouldn't be able to, but you know, many defensive players,

529
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<v Speaker 6>running backs. If you look at the straps, a lot

530
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<v Speaker 6>of the football players have to keep their arm at

531
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<v Speaker 6>their side away from what see said. That forty five

532
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<v Speaker 6>dere angle that's to help keep the shoulder in place.

533
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<v Speaker 6>But I'm not sure show Hey can wear that, and

534
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<v Speaker 6>you know have his usual setup and load. Maybe he

535
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<v Speaker 6>can in some modified way. We'll have to see. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think his high reinjury risk. It's just how

537
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<v Speaker 6>effective he can be right now. Long term, there's definitely

538
00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:36.240
<v Speaker 6>reinjury risk. That's where he would think about, you know,

539
00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:39.799
<v Speaker 6>getting it fixed in this off season. It's just the

540
00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:43.400
<v Speaker 6>nuances of each sport, not just the injury itself, and

541
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<v Speaker 6>the nuances of each athlete within the sport. As we've

542
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<v Speaker 6>talked about his batting stance and swing in.

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<v Speaker 5>The way that he loads, Doctor Chow, Let's say he

544
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<v Speaker 5>has surgery number one, what is the recovery after that?

545
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<v Speaker 3>Surgery is at a long time?

546
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<v Speaker 5>And secondly, if you can compare the difference between the

547
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<v Speaker 5>elbow and the shoulder, I mean the shoulder, it seems

548
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<v Speaker 5>much more complex than the elbow.

549
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<v Speaker 3>So maybe those two.

550
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<v Speaker 6>Well, yeah, first of all, you probably could come close

551
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<v Speaker 6>to having this be an off season thing and be

552
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<v Speaker 6>ready for the start of next season. It would be close,

553
00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:25.759
<v Speaker 6>but I think he might be able to do it,

554
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<v Speaker 6>depending on the extent of the damage. If he needs

555
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<v Speaker 6>the surgery, it wouldn't be like the elbow where next

556
00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:35.839
<v Speaker 6>season is lost, right at least from a pitching perspective

557
00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:39.000
<v Speaker 6>on the elbow and from a hitting perspective, he would

558
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<v Speaker 6>be back for next season. The question is that you

559
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<v Speaker 6>start as spring training, probably not started the regular season maybe,

560
00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:50.440
<v Speaker 6>but not long after that. So it's not the worst

561
00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:53.720
<v Speaker 6>thing in the world here in terms of recovery. And

562
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<v Speaker 6>if it's going to come out again and again, you're

563
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<v Speaker 6>probably going to want to fix it this off season. Obviously,

564
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<v Speaker 6>the off season is shorter now than typical given how

565
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<v Speaker 6>far they've gone into the World Series.

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<v Speaker 4>Doctor Child, final thing is it if he plays tonight

567
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<v Speaker 4>and it's a matter of pain tolerance. Is there something

568
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<v Speaker 4>they can you know, give him to make sure the paint?

569
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<v Speaker 4>Is it just a couple of advillain, Let's let's go

570
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<v Speaker 4>out there and play show hey, and we'll worry about

571
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<v Speaker 4>this later.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, advil. You know, there's different things toward all legal medications,

573
00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:30.519
<v Speaker 6>et cetera, but adrenaline's a powerful drug. And to me,

574
00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:35.119
<v Speaker 6>it's just what do the subtleties do to his swing

575
00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:38.920
<v Speaker 6>as he you know, you know, is trying to hit

576
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<v Speaker 6>that curveball or under mile an hour fastball. Look in theory,

577
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<v Speaker 6>and I don't know if the Yankee pitchers will be

578
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<v Speaker 6>brave enough to do this against shoe Hey, o Tani,

579
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<v Speaker 6>Steve Saxton, come in on this. If you have a

580
00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:53.039
<v Speaker 6>bad back shoulder and you have this type of problem,

581
00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:57.400
<v Speaker 6>it might be harder to turn on an inside pitch

582
00:26:57.440 --> 00:27:00.000
<v Speaker 6>a little bit well that he's a poll hitter. Anyway,

583
00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:04.720
<v Speaker 6>Are you brave enough to pound show Atani inside? Medically?

584
00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:07.960
<v Speaker 6>That might be what you want to do, But is

585
00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:09.519
<v Speaker 6>anyone brave enough to do that?

586
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<v Speaker 5>That's funny, Dr Chow, as you were as you were

587
00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:15.680
<v Speaker 5>forming your question, I was some seting here with Tim

588
00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:19.599
<v Speaker 5>and I'm pointing to close to my body like they're

589
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:22.039
<v Speaker 5>gonna pound him inside, and then you're right on it.

590
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:25.160
<v Speaker 5>You know exactly how they do this in supports obviously,

591
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:27.839
<v Speaker 5>but that might be something they do. I think, you know,

592
00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:30.240
<v Speaker 5>Dr Chow, is this this club may know there's a

593
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:32.759
<v Speaker 5>you know, a possible way to get in there and

594
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<v Speaker 5>kind of you know, you know, mitigate what Jose what

595
00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:38.359
<v Speaker 5>a show he can do as far as turning on

596
00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:40.599
<v Speaker 5>the baseball, which of course is his specialty.

597
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<v Speaker 3>So we'll have to wait and see on that.

598
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<v Speaker 6>Doctor, We're all suckly because that's playing with fire, but

599
00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:48.400
<v Speaker 6>you know, that might be what you need here I.

600
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<v Speaker 3>Mean absolutely, watch out, absolutely, doctor Chow.

601
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<v Speaker 4>We appreciate you coming on this morning lending your expertise

602
00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:56.839
<v Speaker 4>to all the Dodger fans out here in southern California

603
00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:00.519
<v Speaker 4>to show hey Otani the shoulder injury and maybe long

604
00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:02.440
<v Speaker 4>term looking at it as well. We really appreciate you

605
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:05.559
<v Speaker 4>coming on this morning doing this. Thank you, Thank you,

606
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<v Speaker 4>doctor Chow.

607
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<v Speaker 5>All right, there he goes Doctor David Show. He's on

608
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:11.960
<v Speaker 5>spot on, spot on. He knows exactly how that goes.

609
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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's amazing how football, baseball, it doesn't matter,

610
00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:17.839
<v Speaker 5>it's all sports. When you have that, when you have

611
00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:20.440
<v Speaker 5>that shoulder, like I thought, that forty five degree angle

612
00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:23.000
<v Speaker 5>and then the and then the contusion or whatever happens,

613
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:26.640
<v Speaker 5>the trauma happens, it's vulnerable because the shoulder's just out there, right.

614
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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, so he was spot on with it.

615
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<v Speaker 4>As a hitter, if you get an injury and you

616
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<v Speaker 4>you feel a sharp pain or you feel something in

617
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<v Speaker 4>one position in your at bat and you move it

618
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<v Speaker 4>just to get away from that pain just a little bit. Yeah,

619
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<v Speaker 4>your hands, your elbow, your hip, your legs.

620
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:51.240
<v Speaker 5>Over compensating right, changes everything, everything, everything. And so when

621
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<v Speaker 5>you look at hitters, it's it's so complex. When you

622
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<v Speaker 5>look at hitters and you know their creatures of habit,

623
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<v Speaker 5>they're gonna do the same thing. And if they that

624
00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:02.680
<v Speaker 5>part of it gets interrupted, it's, uh, it can change everything.

625
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:05.279
<v Speaker 5>And you know, oh, the guy's a whamp, the guy,

626
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<v Speaker 5>you know, No, No, it's it's it's just a fine

627
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<v Speaker 5>technical thing that gets interrupted changes the whole scheme.

628
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's that's problem.

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<v Speaker 4>When he says surgery labram, Yeah, I just I started

630
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:18.079
<v Speaker 4>shaking my head.

631
00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:19.839
<v Speaker 5>Thank god, it's not the right one, you know what

632
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:21.720
<v Speaker 5>I mean. I mean, he can still pitch and it's

633
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:23.559
<v Speaker 5>not going to bother any of that. His elbow is

634
00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:25.119
<v Speaker 5>gonna be one hundred percent. As you know, he could

635
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:27.640
<v Speaker 5>probably be pitched now, but we're not going to go there.

636
00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:30.799
<v Speaker 5>But nonetheless, thank god it's the left shoulder.

637
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:34.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we'll see if he plays today. Dave Roberts alluded

638
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:38.079
<v Speaker 4>to it yesterday in his pre workout press conference that

639
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:41.480
<v Speaker 4>if Showhye can tolerate whatever pain he's going through and

640
00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:44.799
<v Speaker 4>he checks the boxes as far as hitting and running

641
00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:46.759
<v Speaker 4>and everything else that he needs to do to be

642
00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:48.559
<v Speaker 4>ready to go for Game three, that he would be

643
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:50.440
<v Speaker 4>in the lineup will find out when the lineup comes

644
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:53.519
<v Speaker 4>out in a couple hours. Game three, first pitches at

645
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:56.559
<v Speaker 4>five Oho eight. David Vasse is in New York. He'll

646
00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:59.359
<v Speaker 4>join us next hour. We'll hear from Walker Buehler next

647
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:00.000
<v Speaker 4>hour as well.

648
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:00.440
<v Speaker 3>Well.

649
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:02.200
<v Speaker 4>Go back out to the phone. Thanks to doctor Chow

650
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:04.119
<v Speaker 4>for joining us. We go to Nick and Long Beach.

651
00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:06.359
<v Speaker 4>It's next up with Saxon, Kates and am on this

652
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:09.880
<v Speaker 4>Monday morning with the Dodgers a two to oh series lead.

653
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<v Speaker 6>What's up?

654
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:13.880
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it's a it's a beautiful Monday, great way to

655
00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:15.400
<v Speaker 10>start the week. Listen.

656
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:16.119
<v Speaker 6>I was.

657
00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:16.880
<v Speaker 3>I got a quick.

658
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:18.799
<v Speaker 10>Story for you guys. I think you'll appreciate it. I

659
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:21.480
<v Speaker 10>was at the eighty eight game. My dad and I

660
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:23.759
<v Speaker 10>we're supposed to go. Something came up and we kept

661
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:26.160
<v Speaker 10>it in the family. My cousin and I went. We

662
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:29.640
<v Speaker 10>were out by the gas station out there in center field,

663
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:32.680
<v Speaker 10>and we bought this back in the day, remember before

664
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:35.880
<v Speaker 10>the internet. And we bought ticket tickets from scalpers, and

665
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:38.400
<v Speaker 10>we upgraded and upgraded, and we ended up spending two

666
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:41.240
<v Speaker 10>hundred dollars each on a ticket, which to us was

667
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:44.480
<v Speaker 10>a lot of money. And we sat in the upper deck,

668
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:48.519
<v Speaker 10>second to the top row exactly even with first base,

669
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:50.880
<v Speaker 10>we got to see Gibby kind of peeking.

670
00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:51.839
<v Speaker 3>Through the dugout door.

671
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:55.279
<v Speaker 10>In the ninth inning, we stayed. We were yelling at

672
00:30:55.319 --> 00:31:00.039
<v Speaker 10>the fans who were leaving in between the top of

673
00:30:59.920 --> 00:31:01.680
<v Speaker 10>the ninth in the bottom of the ninth. I'll never

674
00:31:01.799 --> 00:31:03.960
<v Speaker 10>understand how you could stay for that and then leave,

675
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:07.000
<v Speaker 10>But we were yelling at the Dodger fans. You revoked.

676
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:10.279
<v Speaker 10>So we saw it, and it was the greatest sports

677
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:14.519
<v Speaker 10>moment I ever got to witness. Fast forward, okay, fast

678
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:19.839
<v Speaker 10>forward to Freddy's at that tenth inning, basically to the minute,

679
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:24.240
<v Speaker 10>forty years later, and I'm watching it on a four

680
00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:29.400
<v Speaker 10>K TV eighty inches in my living room. He hit

681
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:34.079
<v Speaker 10>the home run, and it's better than Gibson. And the

682
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:36.640
<v Speaker 10>reason it was better is because that was the first

683
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:40.599
<v Speaker 10>great moment that my seventeen year old son and my

684
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:44.839
<v Speaker 10>thirteen year old daughter watched, and we all watched it together,

685
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:47.279
<v Speaker 10>and we were jumping up and down in a circle,

686
00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:49.000
<v Speaker 10>just like all the videos that you saw, all the

687
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:54.480
<v Speaker 10>people they experienced the miracle of baseball, and only baseball

688
00:31:54.519 --> 00:32:00.680
<v Speaker 10>provides that shocking moment. And that's why for me, even

689
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:04.640
<v Speaker 10>though Gibbey was more story, but the Freddie Freeman moment

690
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:07.200
<v Speaker 10>for me in my heart is more special. I love

691
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:09.279
<v Speaker 10>the Dodgers. I love the fact that I passed it

692
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:11.720
<v Speaker 10>on to my family, and I think we're gonna take

693
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:13.599
<v Speaker 10>it home for another chip.

694
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:16.400
<v Speaker 4>All right, Nick, appreciate the phone call. He mentioned the

695
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:18.200
<v Speaker 4>emotion of the game, and I'll bring it up again.

696
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:20.400
<v Speaker 4>I was at game one on Friday night. I was

697
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:23.079
<v Speaker 4>standing in the loads level, right behind the back seat

698
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:25.799
<v Speaker 4>of the section I think it was eight of the

699
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:29.319
<v Speaker 4>load section and the home run grand Slam walk off

700
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:33.200
<v Speaker 4>of the Dodgers. People hugging each other, people crying. The

701
00:32:33.240 --> 00:32:37.039
<v Speaker 4>whole nine innings. Though saxy, at times, I felt myself

702
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:40.960
<v Speaker 4>exhaly and thinking, gosh, I'm just a fan watching this game,

703
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:44.240
<v Speaker 4>standing here with other people, just watching this emotional game

704
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:47.319
<v Speaker 4>happen out to out inning, inning, runners left on base,

705
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:50.519
<v Speaker 4>pictures getting out of jams, the bullpen, coming in the

706
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:54.079
<v Speaker 4>grand Slam. I was exhausted. Yeah, after that, I couldn't

707
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:56.440
<v Speaker 4>imagine being a player. And I'm standing right in front

708
00:32:56.440 --> 00:33:00.839
<v Speaker 4>of the Yankees family and friends section and Anthony volt family,

709
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:03.319
<v Speaker 4>the short stop for the Yankees. Was happy to be

710
00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:04.960
<v Speaker 4>sitting in the back couple rows, so they're right in

711
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:08.079
<v Speaker 4>front of me, and every time their son and grandson

712
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:12.319
<v Speaker 4>came up, they like, I couldn't imagine the emotion that

713
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:14.480
<v Speaker 4>they were going through. And then I think about Vulpi

714
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:17.759
<v Speaker 4>and I think about these players. As a player, the

715
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:20.480
<v Speaker 4>emotions are you caught in the moment. Do you realize

716
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:23.240
<v Speaker 4>how tense it is pitched the pitch and back to

717
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:26.039
<v Speaker 4>a bat And because as a fan, I was caught

718
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:27.599
<v Speaker 4>in up it one thousand percent.

719
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:30.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's lots of times. It's more for your family.

720
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:31.000
<v Speaker 3>You know.

721
00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:33.359
<v Speaker 5>My mom and dad never missed any of our games,

722
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:35.880
<v Speaker 5>and quite often they were passing each other on the

723
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:39.440
<v Speaker 5>street in West Sacramento, going to my sister's Bobby Socks game,

724
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:41.759
<v Speaker 5>to my brother's game, to my game, to my other

725
00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:44.039
<v Speaker 5>sister's game, and they were like passing each other, you know,

726
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:46.200
<v Speaker 5>because we were in different leagues because of our ages.

727
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:49.200
<v Speaker 5>So it was it's so exhausting. And when it gets

728
00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:51.440
<v Speaker 5>up to the big league, like the Vulpe family, I mean,

729
00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:54.440
<v Speaker 5>you can imagine every pitch is like just a breathtaking

730
00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:57.960
<v Speaker 5>event and it's absolutely exhausting for the family, the players

731
00:33:57.960 --> 00:33:59.559
<v Speaker 5>in the middle of it, and it's kind of what

732
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:02.359
<v Speaker 5>you do, you know, But for the families, they're the

733
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:04.559
<v Speaker 5>ones that go through it. Really it's just another game,

734
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:08.280
<v Speaker 5>a playway seriously when uh, I mean, you know, the

735
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:10.639
<v Speaker 5>heightened awareness of everything because it's the World Series. But

736
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:13.760
<v Speaker 5>once once the game starts, all the pomp and circumstances

737
00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:16.480
<v Speaker 5>before that, Yeah, the butterflies when you're on the field,

738
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:19.119
<v Speaker 5>you get a little butterflies when they're announcing, but after

739
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.239
<v Speaker 5>that first pitch going on, you get the the you know,

740
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:24.400
<v Speaker 5>the mechanics of the game going back and forth. It's

741
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:27.239
<v Speaker 5>like another game, it really is to me. Especially when

742
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:29.119
<v Speaker 5>you're winning, you relax a little bit more. Yeah, so

743
00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:30.679
<v Speaker 5>that's that's the way that was.

744
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:33.280
<v Speaker 4>But where I was standing, there happened to be a

745
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:36.559
<v Speaker 4>TV monitor up to my right, and so I could

746
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:40.199
<v Speaker 4>see the bad and time after time i'd see a

747
00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:42.920
<v Speaker 4>player up at bad first pitch, second pitch, step out

748
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:45.280
<v Speaker 4>of the box and there was this deep breath they

749
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:49.639
<v Speaker 4>would take, Yeah, inhale, exhale, deep breath, and I felt

750
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:52.000
<v Speaker 4>like they were feeling the moment as well. Not every player,

751
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:53.920
<v Speaker 4>so you could tell which ones were feeling it.

752
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:56.440
<v Speaker 5>And you know they say sometimes people say, do you

753
00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:58.880
<v Speaker 5>ever hear the fans yell at yeah, you hear everything,

754
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:01.559
<v Speaker 5>and we were human, just anybody else. But I gotta

755
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:03.840
<v Speaker 5>go back to Nick, the caller at the of the moment.

756
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:06.719
<v Speaker 5>I think Freddy's home run was just as big as Gibbie.

757
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:09.239
<v Speaker 5>He was hobbled, he was injured, the game was on

758
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:12.280
<v Speaker 5>the line. It was the iconic home run, every bit

759
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:13.719
<v Speaker 5>as big as Gibbie's homer.

760
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:14.400
<v Speaker 3>I think he is.

761
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:16.719
<v Speaker 4>Steve sax I'm Tim Kates. Your phone calls coming up,

762
00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:19.480
<v Speaker 4>Saxon Kates in the am. David Vassi joins this next hour.

763
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:21.639
<v Speaker 4>In about twenty minutes, you'll hear from Walker Bueller, the

764
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:24.440
<v Speaker 4>Game three starter. Dodgers back in the Bronx for Game

765
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:27.920
<v Speaker 4>three of this World Series, a two nothing series lead

766
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:31.039
<v Speaker 4>going into tonight. Dodgers on deck at four o'clock. First

767
00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:32.599
<v Speaker 4>bitch at five, Oh wait right here on AMPI seventy

768
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:45.800
<v Speaker 4>l A Sports Saxon Kates in the Am on this

769
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:49.000
<v Speaker 4>Monday morning here in southern California. Thanks for being with

770
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:52.039
<v Speaker 4>us as the Dodgers are in New York for Game

771
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:54.239
<v Speaker 4>three of the World Series of a two to zero

772
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:58.880
<v Speaker 4>series lead. What an emotional weekend it was at Dodgers Stadium,

773
00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:02.880
<v Speaker 4>Game one on Friday Night, Dodgers a walk off grand

774
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:05.960
<v Speaker 4>slam in the tenth inning from Freddie Freeman. Game two,

775
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:09.719
<v Speaker 4>Yoshi Yamamoto dominant on the mound. Three Dodger home runs,

776
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:12.920
<v Speaker 4>Tommy Edmund goes deep, Freddie Freeman goes deep, tay Oscar

777
00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:16.320
<v Speaker 4>Hernandez goes deep, and the Dodgers win Game two on

778
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:19.320
<v Speaker 4>Saturday Night. Walker Bueler would go in Game three tonight,

779
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:21.920
<v Speaker 4>first pitch at five oho eight from the Galloping Motors

780
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:25.199
<v Speaker 4>broadcast booth. Thanks to Dodga Chow for joining us earlier

781
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:29.679
<v Speaker 4>this hour getting his expertise on this Dodger injury to

782
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:35.280
<v Speaker 4>show Hey Otani the shoulder sublexation and possible labram tear.

783
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:37.920
<v Speaker 4>They'll find out more, certainly after the series is over

784
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:41.639
<v Speaker 4>and they do a little bit more work on that shoulder. Certainly,

785
00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:44.480
<v Speaker 4>we expect him to play in Game three tonight. To

786
00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:47.159
<v Speaker 4>what extent he is the show Hey, that we've seen

787
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:49.280
<v Speaker 4>all season long, We'll find out some people have a

788
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:51.760
<v Speaker 4>problem with show. He's trying to steal in the seventh

789
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:54.719
<v Speaker 4>inning on Game two, and what was a Dodger lead

790
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:56.039
<v Speaker 4>going in? I think it was a four to one

791
00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:58.880
<v Speaker 4>lead at the time, and showey Otani gets caught stealing,

792
00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:01.840
<v Speaker 4>and some Dodger fans reacting to like, why are you

793
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:04.119
<v Speaker 4>even trying to do that? What's the point of getting

794
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:05.719
<v Speaker 4>to the second base. You already have a three run lead.

795
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:08.400
<v Speaker 4>It's like you're trying to tack on runs. Totally good

796
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:11.840
<v Speaker 4>with that, Totally good with that. The theory being that

797
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:15.159
<v Speaker 4>if you're six or is it six runs up in

798
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:18.280
<v Speaker 4>the sixth inning, six and six, maybe you don't do

799
00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:20.039
<v Speaker 4>it to try to show the other team up. But

800
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:22.880
<v Speaker 4>this is a World Series. You tack on Nothing wrong

801
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:25.320
<v Speaker 4>with that whatsoever. I mean, look at the final score.

802
00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:28.079
<v Speaker 4>The Dodgers hang on and win Game two, but the

803
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:30.360
<v Speaker 4>Yankees had the bases loaded. What would another run or

804
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:32.599
<v Speaker 4>two look like in a Dodger lead at that point?

805
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:35.519
<v Speaker 4>It would have been huge, huge, of course, as it

806
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:37.800
<v Speaker 4>is Alex Vessi gets him out of a base's loaded jam.

807
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:39.800
<v Speaker 4>They did just the one run in the ninth inning.

808
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:42.039
<v Speaker 4>It's a four to two victory, but could have been worse.

809
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:44.079
<v Speaker 4>Could have been a Yankees win in the in the

810
00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:46.119
<v Speaker 4>ninth inning. In there, but you know, you continue to

811
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:47.719
<v Speaker 4>tack on runs. You don't just be happy with the

812
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:50.039
<v Speaker 4>three run lead. And then get mad at Showy for

813
00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:54.320
<v Speaker 4>trying to steal second base. So uh interesting, it's Dodger

814
00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:57.760
<v Speaker 4>fans wanting to complain. Yeah, eight six, six, nine eighty seven,

815
00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:00.000
<v Speaker 4>two five seventy. Well here from Walker Buealer. Coming up

816
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:01.679
<v Speaker 4>at the top of the hour. David Vast will join

817
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:05.199
<v Speaker 4>us from New York. Coming up at eight thirty. Reggie

818
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.280
<v Speaker 4>in La is next up on Sax and Kates and

819
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:07.760
<v Speaker 4>The Am.

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00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:08.599
<v Speaker 3>Reggie, good morning.

821
00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:11.800
<v Speaker 7>Hey, how you guys doing good?

822
00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:12.800
<v Speaker 11>Reggie?

823
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:16.280
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, oh yeah.

824
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<v Speaker 11>It was kind of interesting to see some of these

825
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:20.920
<v Speaker 11>New York fans interviews on some of the news channels

826
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:23.920
<v Speaker 11>last night about I appreciate if they were to just

827
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:26.639
<v Speaker 11>be there and how they thought that it was great

828
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:29.840
<v Speaker 11>to have their world series there where you watched La

829
00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:32.480
<v Speaker 11>Dodger fans and there was like, you know, we're gonna

830
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:35.800
<v Speaker 11>rip their throats out to get this thing, which which

831
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:37.920
<v Speaker 11>was kind of crazy. But the only question I don't

832
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:39.639
<v Speaker 11>want to ask Steve Sax right.

833
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:42.599
<v Speaker 7>Now, real big important thing for me is how do

834
00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:43.719
<v Speaker 7>you like the national anthem?

835
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:47.719
<v Speaker 4>Oh, that's a great question. It was Brad, Thank you, Reggie.

836
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:50.039
<v Speaker 4>It was Brad Paisley on Friday night.

837
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:52.719
<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about that. I didn't see it because you know,

838
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:53.760
<v Speaker 3>was it good?

839
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:57.119
<v Speaker 4>I didn't hear it, so I say it was good

840
00:38:57.159 --> 00:38:59.440
<v Speaker 4>based on the five or six people that I did

841
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:02.519
<v Speaker 4>ask on Friday night. When I saw them afterwards and

842
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:05.199
<v Speaker 4>we were all celebrating the Freddie Freeman grand Slam, I said, oh, yeah,

843
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:08.320
<v Speaker 4>by the way, how was Brad Paisley And they were

844
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:09.239
<v Speaker 4>like he was fantastic.

845
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:10.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he did a great job.

846
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:12.480
<v Speaker 4>And then David Vat say, you can actually ask David

847
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.320
<v Speaker 4>about this when he comes on. David knows Brad Paisley

848
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:17.360
<v Speaker 4>very well. Was that Brad Paisley's house during the winter

849
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:21.320
<v Speaker 4>meetings and had Brad and his wife on Dodger Talk

850
00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:23.760
<v Speaker 4>from the booth on Friday night and came in and

851
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:26.920
<v Speaker 4>talked to him about the national anthem, and David's like,

852
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:28.800
<v Speaker 4>why don't you give your guitar to the Hall of Fame?

853
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:30.760
<v Speaker 4>You know, he could use it as a moment, you know,

854
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:32.519
<v Speaker 4>momento there, and He's like, no, no, this is my

855
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:35.559
<v Speaker 4>favorite guitar, not doing that. But he did a very

856
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:37.480
<v Speaker 4>good job. I'm not sure who's saying a game too.

857
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:41.199
<v Speaker 4>I should know this offhand, but yeah, it's a it's

858
00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:41.760
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't bad.

859
00:39:41.800 --> 00:39:43.840
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't. Brad Paisley's gonna do it right.

860
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:45.800
<v Speaker 5>You know that he's he's a good dude, he's a

861
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:48.079
<v Speaker 5>he's a great American, and of course you know he's

862
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:49.519
<v Speaker 5>the consummate professional.

863
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:50.360
<v Speaker 3>He's going to do it right.

864
00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:52.760
<v Speaker 4>He is a huge Dodger fan by the way, too,

865
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:55.039
<v Speaker 4>which is surprising. He didn't grow up a Dodger fan.

866
00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:59.079
<v Speaker 4>He became a Dodger fan. And now he saw the light. Yeah,

867
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:01.480
<v Speaker 4>he saw the lighting sit and now he's all in

868
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:03.440
<v Speaker 4>as far as being a Dodger fan. He splits his

869
00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:05.599
<v Speaker 4>time between l A and Nashville, and when the Winter

870
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:09.920
<v Speaker 4>meetings were happening in Nashville this past December, David Vassay

871
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:14.920
<v Speaker 4>sort of sparked a conversation between he and the Dodgers

872
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:18.840
<v Speaker 4>front office, and it led to a gathering at Brad

873
00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:22.519
<v Speaker 4>Paisley's house. Wow, and they were having a good time

874
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:26.519
<v Speaker 4>and just talking baseball, and it ended up being like

875
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:29.719
<v Speaker 4>multiple members of the Dodgers' front office and then members

876
00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:31.719
<v Speaker 4>of the Tampa Bay Ray's office front office showed up

877
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:35.199
<v Speaker 4>as well. Has got some and you know what happened

878
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:39.039
<v Speaker 4>at this meeting, The Tyler glassnow trade happened at this meeting.

879
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:44.079
<v Speaker 4>The discussion about a possible deal started at this meeting

880
00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:46.320
<v Speaker 4>at Brad Paisley's house. David Vass can tell more about

881
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:48.800
<v Speaker 4>because he was literally, You're never going to get anything

882
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:51.840
<v Speaker 4>like this other than scam. Yeah, absolutely, cats, you just

883
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:54.199
<v Speaker 4>you just you just I mean, David's told the story,

884
00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:54.920
<v Speaker 4>so I'm not telling.

885
00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:56.760
<v Speaker 5>Him that of course, but I hadn't heard it before,

886
00:40:56.920 --> 00:40:59.599
<v Speaker 5>and especially when you tell it with you know, right

887
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:00.119
<v Speaker 5>off the U.

888
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:01.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh, this is how this happened. We got Glass now

889
00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:03.960
<v Speaker 3>and you know this is great stuff.

890
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:07.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Vasso can tell you more about the conversations they

891
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:10.480
<v Speaker 4>had and the frameworks of a deal were in motion

892
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:13.159
<v Speaker 4>based on this gathering. And it was all because David

893
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:16.079
<v Speaker 4>and Brad Paisley wanted to hang out together. And then

894
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:17.400
<v Speaker 4>it was like, Hey, I'm gonna bring this person. He

895
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:19.519
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna bring this person. And it ran into a

896
00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:22.679
<v Speaker 4>small little party gathering Wow at Brad Paisley's house turned

897
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:25.360
<v Speaker 4>into the Winter meetings. Absolutely and make sing, you know,

898
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:28.360
<v Speaker 4>show hey signs with the Dodgers. I'm amoto shines. Tyler

899
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:31.280
<v Speaker 4>glassnow gets traded for from the Tampa Bay Rays and

900
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:34.000
<v Speaker 4>here we are Dodgers. A two oer series lead in

901
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:36.880
<v Speaker 4>this world series, Tony and Santa Clarita, thanks for being

902
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:37.920
<v Speaker 4>patient on this Monday morning.

903
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:39.519
<v Speaker 3>How you doing, Tony Hey.

904
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:43.079
<v Speaker 9>If show Hey isn't himself, they're gonna pitch around Freddy.

905
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:45.920
<v Speaker 9>That means it's Max Munsey's time to show up. And

906
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:48.800
<v Speaker 9>didn't Max Munsey have a dual home run game in

907
00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:50.400
<v Speaker 9>the summertime in Yankee Stadium?

908
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:52.280
<v Speaker 3>I believe so. I believe so.

909
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:55.320
<v Speaker 9>And do you think Tommy Edmonds should hit from the

910
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:58.079
<v Speaker 9>left because Soto's not a good not a good defender.

911
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:01.639
<v Speaker 4>Well, it's a matchup a who's facing, you know, they're

912
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:04.920
<v Speaker 4>their facing that night is being the the benefits of

913
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:07.400
<v Speaker 4>a switch hitter and Tommy Edmund It'll be interesting to

914
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:09.480
<v Speaker 4>see how they face show Hey o Tani if he

915
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:12.719
<v Speaker 4>does in fact play tonight as the designated hitter, will

916
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:14.760
<v Speaker 4>they pitch around him? Will they attack them? Try to

917
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:18.400
<v Speaker 4>go after a wounded animal, so to speak, initch around him.

918
00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:20.119
<v Speaker 3>I think this is the time that they'll go after.

919
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:23.840
<v Speaker 5>They they'll try to neutralize him by pitching him, and

920
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:26.280
<v Speaker 5>they'll feel it out too. I mean sometimes if your

921
00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:28.280
<v Speaker 5>shoulders hurt like that too, and you pitch him away,

922
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:30.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, to try to reach for that ball can

923
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.679
<v Speaker 5>also probably be an effective thing. And they're gonna, they're gonna,

924
00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:34.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, they're gonna map this whole thing out for sure.

925
00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:39.639
<v Speaker 5>But you know, if show hey capitalized on a mistake

926
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:41.559
<v Speaker 5>that they make, he might not make any difference.

927
00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:43.079
<v Speaker 4>On the flip side. You just said that, try to

928
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:45.239
<v Speaker 4>get him to chase. If your show Hey, and there's

929
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:49.360
<v Speaker 4>some ways of hitting some positions that hurt more than others,

930
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:51.320
<v Speaker 4>you're gonna want to stay away from that, whether it's

931
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:54.480
<v Speaker 4>reaching out, whatever the case may be. You don't want

932
00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:56.639
<v Speaker 4>to feel that pain, So you're not gonna make that swing. Right,

933
00:42:56.800 --> 00:42:59.280
<v Speaker 4>Maybe this prevents him from chasing balls. Maybe this really

934
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:01.559
<v Speaker 4>zero is in where he knows pitch has got to

935
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:04.079
<v Speaker 4>be in order for me to make contact and to

936
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:06.320
<v Speaker 4>be without any pain. Yeah, needs to be at this

937
00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:08.440
<v Speaker 4>certain spot. He needs to be in this certain.

938
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:10.599
<v Speaker 3>Middle end, so to speak. But anything else I'm not

939
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:11.119
<v Speaker 3>going after.

940
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:13.679
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think I think the bottom line is he

941
00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:17.360
<v Speaker 5>can't get into a rhythm, even because it could affect

942
00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:19.239
<v Speaker 5>him the rest of the you know, if there's you know,

943
00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:21.519
<v Speaker 5>if it goes seven games too, he can't get into

944
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:24.079
<v Speaker 5>a rhythm where he's starting to change and or alter

945
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:26.719
<v Speaker 5>his approach and the way he swings, because then he's

946
00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:29.519
<v Speaker 5>not Shoeotani, so he has to try to I would

947
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:32.440
<v Speaker 5>say stay with the basic plan because that's what he's

948
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:35.079
<v Speaker 5>all about. If he tried to even do micro changes,

949
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:36.400
<v Speaker 5>then you're asking for problems.

950
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:36.719
<v Speaker 3>You know what.

951
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:38.920
<v Speaker 4>This is a good thing Dodger fans, because when shoe

952
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:43.000
<v Speaker 4>Heotani refocused her in the season, stopped chasing pitches, really

953
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:46.400
<v Speaker 4>zeroed in on the pitches he was looking for, he

954
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:48.320
<v Speaker 4>was back to be in a show. Hey, getting on base,

955
00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:50.159
<v Speaker 4>stealing basis, hitting for power.

956
00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:51.599
<v Speaker 3>This is gonna be a good thing to tell you

957
00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:52.079
<v Speaker 3>another team.

958
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.000
<v Speaker 5>There's times when people are sick, when they come to

959
00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:57.800
<v Speaker 5>the ballpark with the flu or they they have, they

960
00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:00.840
<v Speaker 5>don't feel well, they've got some injury. They wind up

961
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:05.280
<v Speaker 5>playing much better at times because they're not concentrating on

962
00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:07.400
<v Speaker 5>anything else. Just I want to get through this game

963
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:09.559
<v Speaker 5>and get to bed. But I'm just gonna see the

964
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:11.079
<v Speaker 5>ball and hit and let a fall. They wind up

965
00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:14.599
<v Speaker 5>having amazing games. Let's hope it happens for show. Hey, tonight,

966
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:16.719
<v Speaker 5>we expect him to be in the lineup. We'll find

967
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:18.599
<v Speaker 5>out more from David Vezy at the bottom of the hour,

968
00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:21.239
<v Speaker 5>we'll hear from Walker Bealer next, and you, Dodger fans

969
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:23.920
<v Speaker 5>eight sixty six, nine eighty seven, two five seventy, leading

970
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:26.800
<v Speaker 5>you up to Game three of the World Series Dodgers

971
00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:27.360
<v Speaker 5>and Yankees.

972
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:30.079
<v Speaker 4>From the Bronx. I'm Tim Kates, Steve Saxson. You on

973
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<v Speaker 4>a FI seventy ELI Sports
