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Speaker 4: Coming up in about twenty minutes, Doctor David Chow, longtime
Speaker 4: Chargers team doctor, will join us. He will give us
Speaker 4: his thoughts on this show. Hey Otani shoulder injury that
Speaker 4: he suffered in the seventh inning in Game two. David
Speaker 4: Vasse is in New York with the team, traveled out
Speaker 4: there yesterday and will join us in the eight o'clock hour.
Speaker 4: We'll hear from Game three starter Walker Buehler coming up
Speaker 4: at eight o'clock. Steve's keys to a Game three win
Speaker 4: coming up as well. The shoulder injury to showy Otani
Speaker 4: at first glance, just looked like a normal slide into
Speaker 4: second base and the seventh inning, for the final out
Speaker 4: of the bottom of the seventh he rolled over onto
Speaker 4: his stomach and started to grimace and then held his
Speaker 4: left arm and the doctors for the Dodgers out in
Speaker 4: the field. Dave Roberts ran out in the field. He
Speaker 4: left the game of the seventh inning, and now we
Speaker 4: find out it is a shoulder sublexation and tests were
Speaker 4: done on it. He flew out separately from the team yesterday,
Speaker 4: did not work out with the team on the field
Speaker 4: a Yankee Stadium, but did do some baseball activities after
Speaker 4: they had left to test out that shoulder. As Dave
Speaker 4: Roberts alluded to, the shoulder injury is never a fun
Speaker 4: thing for a player. And this is a shoey Otani
Speaker 4: already coming off a Tommy John surgery, albeit to his
Speaker 4: right elbow. This is his left shoulder. When you saw
Speaker 4: the slide, initially it didn't look too bad. Sex he
Speaker 4: kind of just looked like maybe a little pressure was
Speaker 4: put on his left arm, maybe a wrist, maybe a
Speaker 4: finger or something. But the shoulder is something you never want.
Speaker 5: To mess with, no, and and much more complicated than
Speaker 5: an elbow. And I'm really looking forward to talking to
Speaker 5: doctor Chow and finding more about, you know, exactly what's
Speaker 5: going on with him. Of course, they had left shoulder subluxation. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I have no idea what that is, but I guess
Speaker 5: it's when you hurt your left shoulder. Partial dislocation, So
Speaker 5: I guess the shoulder doesn't completely pop out, Yeah, but
Speaker 5: there's damage to the shoulder. Then I had one of those.
Speaker 5: I had one of those when I was sixteen years old.
Speaker 5: I want to I want to ask doctor child about that,
Speaker 5: because I've always wondered I was sliding head first in
Speaker 5: the home plate, you know, you know, sixteen and stupid.
Speaker 5: And I was in American Legion baseball right before I signed.
Speaker 5: I was a maybe sophomore in high school. And I
Speaker 5: slid in a home plate and my hand caught the
Speaker 5: catcher's like foot as I was that he had blocked
Speaker 5: in front of home plate. And I kept going and
Speaker 5: my shoulder stayed back there where I was sliding, and
Speaker 5: I remember rolling over like show Hey did, and my
Speaker 5: shoulder was really hurting. And you know what, all through
Speaker 5: my baseball career, it never kept me from really doing anything,
Speaker 5: but it was always a reminder of that terrible decision
Speaker 5: to slide head first in the home plate when I
Speaker 5: was sixteen years old. I could always feel like when
Speaker 5: I raised my shoulders up, if you can just think
Speaker 5: about and pull your shoulders back a little bit, if
Speaker 5: there's any time where I can pull my shoulder, I
Speaker 5: can feel how tentative and weak it is back there.
Speaker 5: Is it a or it's just like, oh boy, that
Speaker 5: I better'm not going any further, that he's going to
Speaker 5: pop out. So it's always been weak, but it never
Speaker 5: bothered my baseball career. I was really lucky. And that's
Speaker 5: why I'm curious about this. Was show Hey, maybe it's
Speaker 5: something that he can play with that's not going to
Speaker 5: be debilitating. Yeah, but that's kind of how it was
Speaker 5: for me.
Speaker 4: I mean, I've heard in the last twenty four hours,
Speaker 4: I've heard from amateur doctors on social media to actual
Speaker 4: doctors on social media that put up put out some videos.
Speaker 4: And that's why I'm excited to talk to doctor child
Speaker 4: about this. Get an actual orthopedic surgeon to talk about
Speaker 4: this injury and somebody's been around professional sports teams for
Speaker 4: the better part of the last thirty years, to talk
Speaker 4: about this sub subluxation of the shoulder and is it
Speaker 4: a tear of the labor I've read doctors, That's what
Speaker 4: I'm curious about. It Did it just pop out and
Speaker 4: it's and it's now it's inflamed and it's gonna or
Speaker 4: did it create scar tissue and is that why it
Speaker 4: feels this way?
Speaker 6: Or right?
Speaker 5: And you know, and I really have heard doctors talk
Speaker 5: about this. In the time I've been around that show,
Speaker 5: are really like there's a lot that they still are
Speaker 5: tentative about. You know, it's not a perfected thing yet.
Speaker 5: About all the things that they do in their course,
Speaker 5: they've come a long ways. But when you're talking to
Speaker 5: compare that with an elbow night and day. From what
Speaker 5: I understand, and that's what doctor Chow would tell us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, if there's a tear in the
Speaker 4: labor and does that mean surgery after the season. Certainly
Speaker 4: he's not throwing here in the World Series. He's it's
Speaker 4: his left shoulder, so that's good as a hitter, right
Speaker 4: as it's his non front shoulder. As a left handed hitter,
Speaker 4: that'd be his right shoulder. Fixing the pictures his power arm.
Speaker 4: I guess you could call it. I think in all.
Speaker 5: Things considered, it's probably what you'd rather have as opposed
Speaker 5: to something on the right side. Of course, Okay, because
Speaker 5: he's pitching, you know, that's big problems if it's on
Speaker 5: the right side. And again mine was on my left,
Speaker 5: so it didn't bother me throwing up.
Speaker 3: But what about swinging though, No, it just it did.
Speaker 3: It didn't. It didn't bother me that.
Speaker 4: It's not going to pop out when you swing right. Soreness,
Speaker 4: the flexibility, the range of motion. And remember when.
Speaker 5: You're hitting two my left your left elbow from a
Speaker 5: right hand hitter, your elbow's down. You know if you
Speaker 5: raise your elbow up. I can feel it right now
Speaker 5: when I just raised my elbow up. What a difference
Speaker 5: that would make. But do you never really do that
Speaker 5: in baseball when you're hitting your the left elbows always down.
Speaker 4: So watching show Hey on the ground, I just kept thinking,
Speaker 4: oh no, not now exactly is that what you're thinking?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And then I thought, which arm is this I'm looking at.
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, it's the left arm. Yeah, okay, thank goodness,
Speaker 4: I guess because he's coming back from Tommy John surgery
Speaker 4: on the right arm again and we want to protect
Speaker 4: that elbow. We want to protect that arm right because
Speaker 4: he's hopefully going to start pitching again next season. And
Speaker 4: then I hear shoulder sublexation, partial dislocation, and I've heard
Speaker 4: the word tear of the labor I'm thrown around the
Speaker 4: last twenty four hours. Let's hope it's not that case. Yeah,
Speaker 4: But then I think labram shoulder gosh darn it. Thankfully
Speaker 4: it's not the right shoulder that he had to be
Speaker 4: coming back from a laboram surgery throwing shoulder again.
Speaker 5: And that's problems down the road. How long are we
Speaker 5: going to get him as a pitcher? Maybe a year
Speaker 5: or two?
Speaker 6: Is that?
Speaker 3: And that's it? Price is averted? There is he going? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Is he going to become an outfielder? Now?
Speaker 5: You know, the bottom line was show hey, dude is
Speaker 5: so talented. I mean, let's say, worst case scenario, it
Speaker 5: happened to his right shoulder and he couldn't throw it.
Speaker 5: I mean, no doubt he could be converted to an outfielder,
Speaker 5: no question. You know he could do it with his
Speaker 5: speed and you know the way he throws in everything.
Speaker 5: But we don't want to even go there. Let's let
Speaker 5: him be the media that he is right now and
Speaker 5: see the great pitching that's coming next year. And of
Speaker 5: course all the offense.
Speaker 4: I love all the Dodger fans who saw that he
Speaker 4: did not travel with the team and immediately like, well,
Speaker 4: I wonder if he's at LAX. I wonder if he's
Speaker 4: gonna be on my flight to New York. Listen, and
Speaker 4: he's taking a PJA a private jet, yeah, to New York.
Speaker 4: He's Shoeotani. He can get there when he needs to
Speaker 4: get there, and he did arrive after the team got
Speaker 4: to New York yesterday. They did not fly out after
Speaker 4: the game on Saturday night. They were scheduled too, but
Speaker 4: I think a two nothing lead in this series, they
Speaker 4: didn't want to travel all night, rather fly early Sunday morning,
Speaker 4: get there in the afternoon. Workout last night, which they did.
Speaker 4: Shoeotani worked out after the team was finishing their workout.
Speaker 4: We'll find out how he felt today. I guess from
Speaker 4: Dave Roberts when he speaks to the media a couple
Speaker 4: hours before first pitch. But the only news we got
Speaker 4: officially yesterday was from Dave Roberts, and you heard that
Speaker 4: audio last hour saying that he expects shoey Otani to
Speaker 4: play in Game three. And at this point, I mean,
Speaker 4: doctor Chow will explain him more and give us more information,
Speaker 4: but I get the feeling it's a pain tolerance, yeah
Speaker 4: for show at this point how much can how much
Speaker 4: can you play through? How much are you willing to
Speaker 4: go through? And if it's gonna further damage your shoulder,
Speaker 4: that's one thing. But if it's just something that it's
Speaker 4: gonna bother you, it's not gonna damage it anymore. Right,
Speaker 4: But how much can you play through the pain? Hopefully
Speaker 4: he can play through it. And you wonder if he'd
Speaker 4: have some assistance in dealing with that pain, would they
Speaker 4: would they reject something? Yeah, would they inject it? I
Speaker 4: don't know, but you know again, doctor Chow will tell us.
Speaker 4: But still, hey, I thought, when it's just a partial
Speaker 4: separation and he's back, you know, could pop out and
Speaker 4: come back.
Speaker 5: It's still not gonna bee hundred percent. But like Dave
Speaker 5: Roberts said, he felt better today than yesterday. Tomorrow, he's
Speaker 5: probably gonna feel better than today. That's good news. And
Speaker 5: if that's just it, he's just gonna need some time
Speaker 5: to rest. Let's go out to the phone. Todaight six
Speaker 5: six nine.
Speaker 4: David Vess joins this next hour, Will Hood from Walker
Speaker 4: Bueler next hour as well Oscar and Baldwin Park. You're
Speaker 4: next up on m five seventy l A Sports, Hi, Oscar.
Speaker 7: Guys, good morning, missus Stags, good.
Speaker 3: Morning, Oscar, good morning morning.
Speaker 7: Beautiful morning, beautiful way to start Monday. Dodgers are up
Speaker 7: too old build it tonight and the Bronx listen. I
Speaker 7: love our chances, man, I don't care about them having
Speaker 7: winn l A. I just want them to win it.
Speaker 7: I'm not all E was two, now get it, get
Speaker 7: goes up?
Speaker 6: Three?
Speaker 7: Oh, maybe I get a game and they's close it
Speaker 7: out on the game five or four whatever, but real
Speaker 7: quick on Freddie Freeman's home run. That night, I was
Speaker 7: working late. I had to. I had to go help
Speaker 7: a buddy in the family out because I'm a plumbing
Speaker 7: by trades. I had to go hop out with something.
Speaker 7: Getting frustrated. I was going guy kid, going back and forth,
Speaker 7: hearing on the radio that I was hearing it play
Speaker 7: little by little as they were down, and then I left.
Speaker 7: I was frustrated, and I swear I turned Brittany to
Speaker 7: the radio, wanted to hear the game, and bam heard
Speaker 7: it right, Freddy Man. That was man. One thing I
Speaker 7: say to about the radio, you hear it first. For
Speaker 7: people on TV, it's like a minute or two delay.
Speaker 7: I heard it first, and yeah where every time where
Speaker 7: I live, at anytime. The Dodgers scored the light fireworks
Speaker 7: I don't know. And then after about two minutes ago,
Speaker 7: people started lighting fireworks, happy and man, it was a
Speaker 7: It's definitely those moments you're gonna always remember. I always
Speaker 7: remember I was driving my work mad and I heard
Speaker 7: heard the call five seventy beautiful when I heard it
Speaker 7: any other.
Speaker 4: Way, awesome, Oscar, appreciate it. Oscer, thanks for listening to
Speaker 4: a five seventy l A Sports. Patrick in Thousand Oaks.
Speaker 4: You're next up on a five seventy l A Sports
Speaker 4: with Sacks and Kate's and am Patrick, how you doing?
Speaker 8: I'm doing well. K C Sacks my all time favorite
Speaker 8: Dodger and k C my all time favorite workaholics. But hey,
Speaker 8: I have a quick question for Steve. Yeah, late in
Speaker 8: the game when Chasm stole second and then they the Dodgers,
Speaker 8: inextricably just kind of let him take third. I mean,
Speaker 8: they didn't have Monthy playing in or even double play depths,
Speaker 8: and they had him basic in shallow left field. I'm
Speaker 8: wondering what is the logic behind that. I mean, that
Speaker 8: could have been brutal without Freddy's heroics, it would have
Speaker 8: been a big point of controversy. And so I'm just wondering,
Speaker 8: why do you think they had him play him back
Speaker 8: so deep?
Speaker 3: Well? We wanted to take that. Yeah, go ahead, okay,
Speaker 3: thanks Patrick, Patrick, thanks for you call. Patrick.
Speaker 5: First of all, I wanted to allude about you said
Speaker 5: about Tim Kates about he's a workaholic. Yeah, you know
Speaker 5: he is. You know you you mentioned the word work
Speaker 5: to Tim and he gets drunk. So I mean it's
Speaker 5: a problem, right, it's a problem. We're just having fun
Speaker 5: with him.
Speaker 3: Patrick.
Speaker 5: No, Look, so I'm with you on this. I'm not
Speaker 5: an advocate of the over shifting. I think it's a
Speaker 5: little bit overrated. I think as a middle infielder, you
Speaker 5: always pinched the two guys at middle in for the
Speaker 5: shortstop in the second basement a little bit two steps up,
Speaker 5: two steps over towards second base, because you never want
Speaker 5: to give up the chance. How many times have we
Speaker 5: seen where they're shifting it's a double play situation and
Speaker 5: they hit a ground ball right to the right side
Speaker 5: of second base and it's through for a base hit.
Speaker 5: That should be a double play every single time. I
Speaker 5: don't like giving up the chance to turn a double
Speaker 5: play because it's a killer for the other side. And
Speaker 5: as far as third base is the same thing, lots
Speaker 5: of times what you see now, Patrick, it's a foot
Speaker 5: race between the runner after a secondary lead on the
Speaker 5: pitch and how fast can the third basement get over
Speaker 5: from the exaggerated shift that he's now engaging in. I'm
Speaker 5: not a I think you got to protect your base
Speaker 5: and whatnot. And I get the shifting part. We shifted,
Speaker 5: but we didn't do it so much that it becomes
Speaker 5: a bunch of you know, bull shift.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's it.
Speaker 4: The speed element of the game is coming back into baseball.
Speaker 4: Is it's a beautiful thing to see. We saw it
Speaker 4: with shoey Otani's stealing fifty bases this season. But to
Speaker 4: see what Jazz Chisholm can do on the bass pass,
Speaker 4: yeah talented, Yeah, I mean he really is the base
Speaker 4: hit next thing, you know, it's like watching Ellie Della
Speaker 4: Cruiz with the Cincinnati risk a single. Two pitches later,
Speaker 4: he's standing on third base. Right, He's a threat And
Speaker 4: does that change the game or what?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 5: Seriously, absolutely talk to the best fielders in baseball. You
Speaker 5: talk especially the outfielders. They have a tendency to look
Speaker 5: up just a beat before they should because that that
Speaker 5: cat might go to third base, and so they're looking
Speaker 5: up to a little bit too soon. And even gold
Speaker 5: glove outfits. We talked to Andre Ethier about it the
Speaker 5: other day. He said the same thing. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 5: that speed element of the game makes you look up
Speaker 5: a little bit. This guy won the gold glove and
Speaker 5: have a chance, a chance to make some errors that
Speaker 5: way because speed kills. It absolutely does, and the Dodgers
Speaker 5: were fortunate to hang on and get the win in
Speaker 5: Game one with the Grand Slam, and they get the
Speaker 5: win in Game two on Saturday night. Now in two
Speaker 5: oh series lead Game three with Walker Bueller on the mound,
Speaker 5: coming up at five oh eight this afternoon. Chris and
Speaker 5: your Bolina joins us now here on a five to
Speaker 5: seven he with Sax and Kates and am how you doing?
Speaker 3: Chris?
Speaker 8: Hey, guys, good morning.
Speaker 9: How are you Chris?
Speaker 8: Good, good, guys.
Speaker 1: I'm super excited. That Game one walkoff was absolutely nuts.
Speaker 1: That was like a first round knockdown. I mean, hard
Speaker 1: to think that the can come back. But the dislocation
Speaker 1: of Pani's shoulder is pretty concerning. I mean, those happened
Speaker 1: pretty frequently once, they happened once, so I don't know
Speaker 1: what the plan is, but it's kind of concerning.
Speaker 4: It is concerning. Chris we're gonna get an update from
Speaker 4: dctri Choo, who has been around professional athletes and worked
Speaker 4: for the Chargers as their team physician for two plus decades.
Speaker 4: He wighed in on social media over the weekend. He's
Speaker 4: with the Sports Injury Central and a doctor still in
Speaker 4: San Diego. He's gonna win with this next segment about
Speaker 4: this injury. What he's seen in past instants with guys
Speaker 4: having shoulder injuries. I mean for the Dodgers, he just
Speaker 4: had to go back four years to twenty twenty. In
Speaker 4: the NLCS, the Dodgers were facing the Braves and Keiky
Speaker 4: Hernandez and Cody Bellinger did a celebration where they kind
Speaker 4: of locked arms and the shoulder and Cody Bellinger popped.
Speaker 4: He heard it in the celebration. He has still played
Speaker 4: in the World Series. Yeah, and wasn't as productive in
Speaker 4: the World Series, but he's still played great defense in
Speaker 4: center field. And what happened after the season in no
Speaker 4: remember a month later he had surgery. Doctor Latrash performed
Speaker 4: surgery on his shoulder and Cody Bellinger in twenty eighteen
Speaker 4: or twenty twenty one, excuse me. After that surgery in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty had a slow start to the season. I
Speaker 4: mean it's a ten week rehab after that shoulder injury,
Speaker 4: and he came back in twenty twenty one and was
Speaker 4: slow to get going out of the box. You can
Speaker 4: tell the shoulder was still hurting him. He even afterwards
Speaker 4: was telling David Vassy that it took a few months
Speaker 4: for him to feel right at the plate in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty one coming back from that shoulder injury, just the
Speaker 4: stiffness and his swing and feeling comfortable again in the
Speaker 4: left handed side of the box. So it's something that, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it affected Cody Bellinger even after he heard it in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this could be, you know, obviously a long term thing.
Speaker 5: If it pops out of the socket and gets back
Speaker 5: in it's still a lot of inflammation in there. And
Speaker 5: you know, like I said, I've dealt with this my
Speaker 5: whole baseball career, my whole life. It's been this way
Speaker 5: since I was sixteen, never had it fixed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but now you walk around with one arm hanging.
Speaker 4: It's kind of weird though.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 5: I'd become all the way right handed now, can't do
Speaker 5: anything with my left hand.
Speaker 3: He is Steve Sax I'm Tim Kates.
Speaker 4: Thanks for being with us on this Monday morning here
Speaker 4: on Saxon K's in the Am. You're a home of
Speaker 4: the show Hey Otani and the Dodgers, A two oh
Speaker 4: series lead. Coming back your phone calls and we'll hear
Speaker 4: from doctor David Chow, sports orthopedic surgeon and specialist. We'll
Speaker 4: check in with him, get his thoughts on this injury,
Speaker 4: how it's gonna affect show Hey, and what kind of
Speaker 4: production can we expect out of show Hey here in
Speaker 4: this world series and how is it gonna affect him
Speaker 4: after the season.
Speaker 3: We'll hear from doctor Chow.
Speaker 4: We'll hear from you at eight six six ninety seven
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Speaker 4: Sports A two to oher series lead in this world
Speaker 4: series Game three. Later on this afternoon, in the Bronx
Speaker 4: Dodgers on decads started at four o'clock. We'll have first
Speaker 4: pitch from the Galpin Motors broadcast booth coming up at
Speaker 4: five to oh eight.
Speaker 3: Will he play? Won't he play? Show?
Speaker 4: Ao Tani suffers a shoulder injury in Game two on
Speaker 4: Saturday Night. Had to come out of the game in
Speaker 4: the seventh inning after sliding into second base and injuring
Speaker 4: his shoulder. We've talked about it, but now we get
Speaker 4: an expert's opinion. Doctor David Chowd joins US now internationally
Speaker 4: recognized orthopedic surgeon sports medicine specialists. You can find out
Speaker 4: more at the Sports Injury Central siicscore dot com, and
Speaker 4: he joins us this morning here on a FI seventy
Speaker 4: LA sports Doctor Chowd, Good morning, Thanks for coming on this.
Speaker 6: Morning, Thanks for having me, guys. I grew up in
Speaker 6: LA and I was a Dodger fan. And yes, don't
Speaker 6: get confused my moniker's pro football doc has I've been
Speaker 6: a longtime NFL team position, but I've helped as a
Speaker 6: team position with the Cubs and Twins as well, so
Speaker 6: there is some MLB experience mixed in here.
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
Speaker 4: We're glad to have you this morning getting your expertise
Speaker 4: on the shoulder injury to show Hey, o Tani. At
Speaker 4: first sight, it didn't see Mike anything, just to slide
Speaker 4: into second base. He rolled over on his stomach and
Speaker 4: grimaced and grabbed his arm was helped off the field.
Speaker 4: We find out it's a sublexation of the shoulder. Can
Speaker 4: you explain to Dodger fans out there what exactly that is?
Speaker 4: How severe an injury or not of an injury it is?
Speaker 6: Well, you know, it was evident to me. I was
Speaker 6: actually headed to an adult Halloween party with my wife
Speaker 6: when my phone went off with the Sports Injury Central staff,
Speaker 6: and you know, I've got one of those big Z
Speaker 6: phones with a big video screen on it. It's like
Speaker 6: a little iPad. They sent the video and immediately we
Speaker 6: tweeted and put out that he sub luck slash dislocated
Speaker 6: his shoulder. What that means is the ball and socket joint.
Speaker 6: The ball came out of the socket, so to speak.
Speaker 6: The difference is in the show, it's not a true
Speaker 6: ball in socket like in the hip. It's more of
Speaker 6: a golf ball on a tee and that's what allows
Speaker 6: the mobility. And the question is did he tear the
Speaker 6: labrum and then the ball doesn't stay on the tee
Speaker 6: as well. When you're golfing, it can stay on, but
Speaker 6: it's a more delicate balancing. That's what we saw initially.
Speaker 6: And the question is did he tear castle did he
Speaker 6: tear part of the labrum? They haven't said. Look, I
Speaker 6: get the optimism for him maybe trying to play, but
Speaker 6: the question is how well might he play. Look, he's
Speaker 6: a Otani, he's the best player in the league. He's
Speaker 6: the MVP. Even with this injury. Is he one of
Speaker 6: the top nine dollgar batters? Yeah, for sure, But is
Speaker 6: he show hey with Tani? Is the question. Good news
Speaker 6: is he doesn't play in the field at all. The
Speaker 6: good news is this is his back shoulder, which makes
Speaker 6: it a little better for hitting. But it's still going
Speaker 6: to be a little issue the way that his swing is,
Speaker 6: and it depends on how to sore his shoulder will be.
Speaker 6: It's going to affect him even if he plays.
Speaker 3: Doctor Child. Good to be with you.
Speaker 5: This is Steve Sachs, and I wanted to ask you
Speaker 5: a little bit more about this subluxation. I had an
Speaker 5: instance where I explained to Tim here I slid into
Speaker 5: home plate in my you know, my arm, my hand
Speaker 5: hooked onto the catcher's foot and I kept going and
Speaker 5: my shoulder stayed there. So I kind of really ripped
Speaker 5: this thing when I was sixteen years old, And you know,
Speaker 5: the shoulder was kind of like at a forty five
Speaker 5: degree angle. When you see Shohey go down to the ground,
Speaker 5: you know, his arm was up a bit, so the
Speaker 5: shoulder was more at that forty five degree angle as well.
Speaker 5: And we were talking about Bellinger in his celebration when
Speaker 5: he jumped up and high five you know keiy k hernettez. Again,
Speaker 5: the shoulder was at a forty five degree angle with
Speaker 5: the arm up, and he had a little bit of
Speaker 5: a subluxation there. So is this the common way this
Speaker 5: happens or is it just what is the main way
Speaker 5: that this does appear to happen.
Speaker 6: Well, you're absolutely right, Stephen, big fan from growing up
Speaker 6: from you and even before you with the say to
Speaker 6: Russell the Lope Cigarvy in the whole deal, even before
Speaker 6: your time. But in any case, you're absolutely right. That's
Speaker 6: the position that's vulnerable when you're upper outer quadrant in
Speaker 6: a you know, if you were a picture with a
Speaker 6: right shoulder with a lis left shoulder up and you
Speaker 6: know when you're in the talking phase, that's the danger
Speaker 6: area when your arm is up and away from you,
Speaker 6: as you say. And that's what happened with Showey's sliding,
Speaker 6: That's what happened with you. That's what happened with the
Speaker 6: Fernando Tatist down in San Diego where I live now,
Speaker 6: last year out of the year before a couple of times.
Speaker 6: And here's the issue. I'm not trying to be a
Speaker 6: baseball expert. You are, Steve, But the way show Hay's
Speaker 6: stance is you look, look in general, back shoulders better
Speaker 6: than front shoulder for this type of injury for hitting.
Speaker 6: But look at how he holds his bat up high
Speaker 6: and buy his ear that back left shoulder kind of
Speaker 6: gets up into that quadrant. Will he need to modify
Speaker 6: that a little bit to be comfortable. I don't know.
Speaker 6: And if he does, what does that do to his
Speaker 6: overall swing? You know, small little adjustments at the last second.
Speaker 6: And maybe my question for be Steve, not that it
Speaker 6: is exactly the same, but could you have played two
Speaker 6: days later after you did what you did to your shoulder?
Speaker 3: You know what, first of all, doctor Chow.
Speaker 5: Your assessment of his setup and how he gets ready
Speaker 5: in that launching position, and how it's elevated right there.
Speaker 5: Making even micro changes to that could certainly throw things off.
Speaker 5: You're exactly right on the button with that. Now, could
Speaker 5: I have played two days later? I don't think I
Speaker 5: could have. This is something that's been with me my
Speaker 5: whole life. It's been this way. I never had it
Speaker 5: attended to. I just tried to get through it. But
Speaker 5: it's still with me today. I don't think I could
Speaker 5: have played two days later, remembering back then.
Speaker 6: Well, here, here's everyone's focused on game three night, everyone
Speaker 6: focused on Justice World series, and I'm not trying to
Speaker 6: be a nacee here. Look is he going to try
Speaker 6: and play? I think of course he's going to try,
Speaker 6: it's how well is the question. And you know he's
Speaker 6: at a reasonable setup too, and you're not going to
Speaker 6: Benchotani if he could at any way shape or for
Speaker 6: him get out there. But as we look forward, because
Speaker 6: you mentioned the long term and potential, it would not
Speaker 6: shock or surprise me if shohe had off season labor
Speaker 6: repair surgery. So this doesn't become recurrent, and that's the
Speaker 6: subject for after the World Series and so forth, But
Speaker 6: that would not surprise me.
Speaker 4: Doctor David Chowd joins us here on a FI seventy
Speaker 4: LA sports talking about Showeyotani the shoulder injury in game
Speaker 4: two of this World Series. Is it something if he
Speaker 4: does play today and continues to play in this World series,
Speaker 4: Doctor chow he can further damage the shoulder or is
Speaker 4: the damage maybe already done to whatever extent it is
Speaker 4: that the labrum. Can he continue to damage it or
Speaker 4: what's done is done and he just has to play
Speaker 4: through it until he can get him looked out further
Speaker 4: in the offseason.
Speaker 6: Well, freak injuries can happen, but thankfully it's baseball and
Speaker 6: it's not football. But let me tell you many football
Speaker 6: players play through this depends on your position. If you
Speaker 6: were a left handed quarterback and this is your left shoulder,
Speaker 6: you wouldn't be able to, but you know, many defensive players,
Speaker 6: running backs. If you look at the straps, a lot
Speaker 6: of the football players have to keep their arm at
Speaker 6: their side away from what see said. That forty five
Speaker 6: dere angle that's to help keep the shoulder in place.
Speaker 6: But I'm not sure show Hey can wear that, and
Speaker 6: you know have his usual setup and load. Maybe he
Speaker 6: can in some modified way. We'll have to see. So yeah,
Speaker 6: I don't think his high reinjury risk. It's just how
Speaker 6: effective he can be right now. Long term, there's definitely
Speaker 6: reinjury risk. That's where he would think about, you know,
Speaker 6: getting it fixed in this off season. It's just the
Speaker 6: nuances of each sport, not just the injury itself, and
Speaker 6: the nuances of each athlete within the sport. As we've
Speaker 6: talked about his batting stance and swing in.
Speaker 5: The way that he loads, Doctor Chow, Let's say he
Speaker 5: has surgery number one, what is the recovery after that?
Speaker 3: Surgery is at a long time?
Speaker 5: And secondly, if you can compare the difference between the
Speaker 5: elbow and the shoulder, I mean the shoulder, it seems
Speaker 5: much more complex than the elbow.
Speaker 3: So maybe those two.
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, first of all, you probably could come close
Speaker 6: to having this be an off season thing and be
Speaker 6: ready for the start of next season. It would be close,
Speaker 6: but I think he might be able to do it,
Speaker 6: depending on the extent of the damage. If he needs
Speaker 6: the surgery, it wouldn't be like the elbow where next
Speaker 6: season is lost, right at least from a pitching perspective
Speaker 6: on the elbow and from a hitting perspective, he would
Speaker 6: be back for next season. The question is that you
Speaker 6: start as spring training, probably not started the regular season maybe,
Speaker 6: but not long after that. So it's not the worst
Speaker 6: thing in the world here in terms of recovery. And
Speaker 6: if it's going to come out again and again, you're
Speaker 6: probably going to want to fix it this off season. Obviously,
Speaker 6: the off season is shorter now than typical given how
Speaker 6: far they've gone into the World Series.
Speaker 4: Doctor Child, final thing is it if he plays tonight
Speaker 4: and it's a matter of pain tolerance. Is there something
Speaker 4: they can you know, give him to make sure the paint?
Speaker 4: Is it just a couple of advillain, Let's let's go
Speaker 4: out there and play show hey, and we'll worry about
Speaker 4: this later.
Speaker 6: Well, advil. You know, there's different things toward all legal medications,
Speaker 6: et cetera, but adrenaline's a powerful drug. And to me,
Speaker 6: it's just what do the subtleties do to his swing
Speaker 6: as he you know, you know, is trying to hit
Speaker 6: that curveball or under mile an hour fastball. Look in theory,
Speaker 6: and I don't know if the Yankee pitchers will be
Speaker 6: brave enough to do this against shoe Hey, o Tani,
Speaker 6: Steve Saxton, come in on this. If you have a
Speaker 6: bad back shoulder and you have this type of problem,
Speaker 6: it might be harder to turn on an inside pitch
Speaker 6: a little bit well that he's a poll hitter. Anyway,
Speaker 6: Are you brave enough to pound show Atani inside? Medically?
Speaker 6: That might be what you want to do, But is
Speaker 6: anyone brave enough to do that?
Speaker 5: That's funny, Dr Chow, as you were as you were
Speaker 5: forming your question, I was some seting here with Tim
Speaker 5: and I'm pointing to close to my body like they're
Speaker 5: gonna pound him inside, and then you're right on it.
Speaker 5: You know exactly how they do this in supports obviously,
Speaker 5: but that might be something they do. I think, you know,
Speaker 5: Dr Chow, is this this club may know there's a
Speaker 5: you know, a possible way to get in there and
Speaker 5: kind of you know, you know, mitigate what Jose what
Speaker 5: a show he can do as far as turning on
Speaker 5: the baseball, which of course is his specialty.
Speaker 3: So we'll have to wait and see on that.
Speaker 6: Doctor, We're all suckly because that's playing with fire, but
Speaker 6: you know, that might be what you need here I.
Speaker 3: Mean absolutely, watch out, absolutely, doctor Chow.
Speaker 4: We appreciate you coming on this morning lending your expertise
Speaker 4: to all the Dodger fans out here in southern California
Speaker 4: to show hey Otani the shoulder injury and maybe long
Speaker 4: term looking at it as well. We really appreciate you
Speaker 4: coming on this morning doing this. Thank you, Thank you,
Speaker 4: doctor Chow.
Speaker 5: All right, there he goes Doctor David Show. He's on
Speaker 5: spot on, spot on. He knows exactly how that goes.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's amazing how football, baseball, it doesn't matter,
Speaker 5: it's all sports. When you have that, when you have
Speaker 5: that shoulder, like I thought, that forty five degree angle
Speaker 5: and then the and then the contusion or whatever happens,
Speaker 5: the trauma happens, it's vulnerable because the shoulder's just out there, right.
Speaker 5: And yeah, so he was spot on with it.
Speaker 4: As a hitter, if you get an injury and you
Speaker 4: you feel a sharp pain or you feel something in
Speaker 4: one position in your at bat and you move it
Speaker 4: just to get away from that pain just a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 4: your hands, your elbow, your hip, your legs.
Speaker 5: Over compensating right, changes everything, everything, everything. And so when
Speaker 5: you look at hitters, it's it's so complex. When you
Speaker 5: look at hitters and you know their creatures of habit,
Speaker 5: they're gonna do the same thing. And if they that
Speaker 5: part of it gets interrupted, it's, uh, it can change everything.
Speaker 5: And you know, oh, the guy's a whamp, the guy,
Speaker 5: you know, No, No, it's it's it's just a fine
Speaker 5: technical thing that gets interrupted changes the whole scheme.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that's problem.
Speaker 4: When he says surgery labram, Yeah, I just I started
Speaker 4: shaking my head.
Speaker 5: Thank god, it's not the right one, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. I mean, he can still pitch and it's
Speaker 5: not going to bother any of that. His elbow is
Speaker 5: gonna be one hundred percent. As you know, he could
Speaker 5: probably be pitched now, but we're not going to go there.
Speaker 5: But nonetheless, thank god it's the left shoulder.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see if he plays today. Dave Roberts alluded
Speaker 4: to it yesterday in his pre workout press conference that
Speaker 4: if Showhye can tolerate whatever pain he's going through and
Speaker 4: he checks the boxes as far as hitting and running
Speaker 4: and everything else that he needs to do to be
Speaker 4: ready to go for Game three, that he would be
Speaker 4: in the lineup will find out when the lineup comes
Speaker 4: out in a couple hours. Game three, first pitches at
Speaker 4: five Oho eight. David Vasse is in New York. He'll
Speaker 4: join us next hour. We'll hear from Walker Buehler next
Speaker 4: hour as well.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: Go back out to the phone. Thanks to doctor Chow
Speaker 4: for joining us. We go to Nick and Long Beach.
Speaker 4: It's next up with Saxon, Kates and am on this
Speaker 4: Monday morning with the Dodgers a two to oh series lead.
Speaker 6: What's up?
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a it's a beautiful Monday, great way to
Speaker 10: start the week. Listen.
Speaker 6: I was.
Speaker 3: I got a quick.
Speaker 10: Story for you guys. I think you'll appreciate it. I
Speaker 10: was at the eighty eight game. My dad and I
Speaker 10: we're supposed to go. Something came up and we kept
Speaker 10: it in the family. My cousin and I went. We
Speaker 10: were out by the gas station out there in center field,
Speaker 10: and we bought this back in the day, remember before
Speaker 10: the internet. And we bought ticket tickets from scalpers, and
Speaker 10: we upgraded and upgraded, and we ended up spending two
Speaker 10: hundred dollars each on a ticket, which to us was
Speaker 10: a lot of money. And we sat in the upper deck,
Speaker 10: second to the top row exactly even with first base,
Speaker 10: we got to see Gibby kind of peeking.
Speaker 3: Through the dugout door.
Speaker 10: In the ninth inning, we stayed. We were yelling at
Speaker 10: the fans who were leaving in between the top of
Speaker 10: the ninth in the bottom of the ninth. I'll never
Speaker 10: understand how you could stay for that and then leave,
Speaker 10: But we were yelling at the Dodger fans. You revoked.
Speaker 10: So we saw it, and it was the greatest sports
Speaker 10: moment I ever got to witness. Fast forward, okay, fast
Speaker 10: forward to Freddy's at that tenth inning, basically to the minute,
Speaker 10: forty years later, and I'm watching it on a four
Speaker 10: K TV eighty inches in my living room. He hit
Speaker 10: the home run, and it's better than Gibson. And the
Speaker 10: reason it was better is because that was the first
Speaker 10: great moment that my seventeen year old son and my
Speaker 10: thirteen year old daughter watched, and we all watched it together,
Speaker 10: and we were jumping up and down in a circle,
Speaker 10: just like all the videos that you saw, all the
Speaker 10: people they experienced the miracle of baseball, and only baseball
Speaker 10: provides that shocking moment. And that's why for me, even
Speaker 10: though Gibbey was more story, but the Freddie Freeman moment
Speaker 10: for me in my heart is more special. I love
Speaker 10: the Dodgers. I love the fact that I passed it
Speaker 10: on to my family, and I think we're gonna take
Speaker 10: it home for another chip.
Speaker 4: All right, Nick, appreciate the phone call. He mentioned the
Speaker 4: emotion of the game, and I'll bring it up again.
Speaker 4: I was at game one on Friday night. I was
Speaker 4: standing in the loads level, right behind the back seat
Speaker 4: of the section I think it was eight of the
Speaker 4: load section and the home run grand Slam walk off
Speaker 4: of the Dodgers. People hugging each other, people crying. The
Speaker 4: whole nine innings. Though saxy, at times, I felt myself
Speaker 4: exhaly and thinking, gosh, I'm just a fan watching this game,
Speaker 4: standing here with other people, just watching this emotional game
Speaker 4: happen out to out inning, inning, runners left on base,
Speaker 4: pictures getting out of jams, the bullpen, coming in the
Speaker 4: grand Slam. I was exhausted. Yeah, after that, I couldn't
Speaker 4: imagine being a player. And I'm standing right in front
Speaker 4: of the Yankees family and friends section and Anthony volt family,
Speaker 4: the short stop for the Yankees. Was happy to be
Speaker 4: sitting in the back couple rows, so they're right in
Speaker 4: front of me, and every time their son and grandson
Speaker 4: came up, they like, I couldn't imagine the emotion that
Speaker 4: they were going through. And then I think about Vulpi
Speaker 4: and I think about these players. As a player, the
Speaker 4: emotions are you caught in the moment. Do you realize
Speaker 4: how tense it is pitched the pitch and back to
Speaker 4: a bat And because as a fan, I was caught
Speaker 4: in up it one thousand percent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's lots of times. It's more for your family.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: My mom and dad never missed any of our games,
Speaker 5: and quite often they were passing each other on the
Speaker 5: street in West Sacramento, going to my sister's Bobby Socks game,
Speaker 5: to my brother's game, to my game, to my other
Speaker 5: sister's game, and they were like passing each other, you know,
Speaker 5: because we were in different leagues because of our ages.
Speaker 5: So it was it's so exhausting. And when it gets
Speaker 5: up to the big league, like the Vulpe family, I mean,
Speaker 5: you can imagine every pitch is like just a breathtaking
Speaker 5: event and it's absolutely exhausting for the family, the players
Speaker 5: in the middle of it, and it's kind of what
Speaker 5: you do, you know, But for the families, they're the
Speaker 5: ones that go through it. Really it's just another game,
Speaker 5: a playway seriously when uh, I mean, you know, the
Speaker 5: heightened awareness of everything because it's the World Series. But
Speaker 5: once once the game starts, all the pomp and circumstances
Speaker 5: before that, Yeah, the butterflies when you're on the field,
Speaker 5: you get a little butterflies when they're announcing, but after
Speaker 5: that first pitch going on, you get the the you know,
Speaker 5: the mechanics of the game going back and forth. It's
Speaker 5: like another game, it really is to me. Especially when
Speaker 5: you're winning, you relax a little bit more. Yeah, so
Speaker 5: that's that's the way that was.
Speaker 4: But where I was standing, there happened to be a
Speaker 4: TV monitor up to my right, and so I could
Speaker 4: see the bad and time after time i'd see a
Speaker 4: player up at bad first pitch, second pitch, step out
Speaker 4: of the box and there was this deep breath they
Speaker 4: would take, Yeah, inhale, exhale, deep breath, and I felt
Speaker 4: like they were feeling the moment as well. Not every player,
Speaker 4: so you could tell which ones were feeling it.
Speaker 5: And you know they say sometimes people say, do you
Speaker 5: ever hear the fans yell at yeah, you hear everything,
Speaker 5: and we were human, just anybody else. But I gotta
Speaker 5: go back to Nick, the caller at the of the moment.
Speaker 5: I think Freddy's home run was just as big as Gibbie.
Speaker 5: He was hobbled, he was injured, the game was on
Speaker 5: the line. It was the iconic home run, every bit
Speaker 5: as big as Gibbie's homer.
Speaker 3: I think he is.
Speaker 4: Steve sax I'm Tim Kates. Your phone calls coming up,
Speaker 4: Saxon Kates in the am. David Vassi joins this next hour.
Speaker 4: In about twenty minutes, you'll hear from Walker Bueller, the
Speaker 4: Game three starter. Dodgers back in the Bronx for Game
Speaker 4: three of this World Series, a two nothing series lead
Speaker 4: going into tonight. Dodgers on deck at four o'clock. First
Speaker 4: bitch at five, Oh wait right here on AMPI seventy
Speaker 4: l A Sports Saxon Kates in the Am on this
Speaker 4: Monday morning here in southern California. Thanks for being with
Speaker 4: us as the Dodgers are in New York for Game
Speaker 4: three of the World Series of a two to zero
Speaker 4: series lead. What an emotional weekend it was at Dodgers Stadium,
Speaker 4: Game one on Friday Night, Dodgers a walk off grand
Speaker 4: slam in the tenth inning from Freddie Freeman. Game two,
Speaker 4: Yoshi Yamamoto dominant on the mound. Three Dodger home runs,
Speaker 4: Tommy Edmund goes deep, Freddie Freeman goes deep, tay Oscar
Speaker 4: Hernandez goes deep, and the Dodgers win Game two on
Speaker 4: Saturday Night. Walker Bueler would go in Game three tonight,
Speaker 4: first pitch at five oho eight from the Galloping Motors
Speaker 4: broadcast booth. Thanks to Dodga Chow for joining us earlier
Speaker 4: this hour getting his expertise on this Dodger injury to
Speaker 4: show Hey Otani the shoulder sublexation and possible labram tear.
Speaker 4: They'll find out more, certainly after the series is over
Speaker 4: and they do a little bit more work on that shoulder. Certainly,
Speaker 4: we expect him to play in Game three tonight. To
Speaker 4: what extent he is the show Hey, that we've seen
Speaker 4: all season long, We'll find out some people have a
Speaker 4: problem with show. He's trying to steal in the seventh
Speaker 4: inning on Game two, and what was a Dodger lead
Speaker 4: going in? I think it was a four to one
Speaker 4: lead at the time, and showey Otani gets caught stealing,
Speaker 4: and some Dodger fans reacting to like, why are you
Speaker 4: even trying to do that? What's the point of getting
Speaker 4: to the second base. You already have a three run lead.
Speaker 4: It's like you're trying to tack on runs. Totally good
Speaker 4: with that, Totally good with that. The theory being that
Speaker 4: if you're six or is it six runs up in
Speaker 4: the sixth inning, six and six, maybe you don't do
Speaker 4: it to try to show the other team up. But
Speaker 4: this is a World Series. You tack on Nothing wrong
Speaker 4: with that whatsoever. I mean, look at the final score.
Speaker 4: The Dodgers hang on and win Game two, but the
Speaker 4: Yankees had the bases loaded. What would another run or
Speaker 4: two look like in a Dodger lead at that point?
Speaker 4: It would have been huge, huge, of course, as it
Speaker 4: is Alex Vessi gets him out of a base's loaded jam.
Speaker 4: They did just the one run in the ninth inning.
Speaker 4: It's a four to two victory, but could have been worse.
Speaker 4: Could have been a Yankees win in the in the
Speaker 4: ninth inning. In there, but you know, you continue to
Speaker 4: tack on runs. You don't just be happy with the
Speaker 4: three run lead. And then get mad at Showy for
Speaker 4: trying to steal second base. So uh interesting, it's Dodger
Speaker 4: fans wanting to complain. Yeah, eight six, six, nine eighty seven,
Speaker 4: two five seventy. Well here from Walker Buealer. Coming up
Speaker 4: at the top of the hour. David Vast will join
Speaker 4: us from New York. Coming up at eight thirty. Reggie
Speaker 4: in La is next up on Sax and Kates and
Speaker 4: The Am.
Speaker 3: Reggie, good morning.
Speaker 7: Hey, how you guys doing good?
Speaker 11: Reggie?
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 11: It was kind of interesting to see some of these
Speaker 11: New York fans interviews on some of the news channels
Speaker 11: last night about I appreciate if they were to just
Speaker 11: be there and how they thought that it was great
Speaker 11: to have their world series there where you watched La
Speaker 11: Dodger fans and there was like, you know, we're gonna
Speaker 11: rip their throats out to get this thing, which which
Speaker 11: was kind of crazy. But the only question I don't
Speaker 11: want to ask Steve Sax right.
Speaker 7: Now, real big important thing for me is how do
Speaker 7: you like the national anthem?
Speaker 4: Oh, that's a great question. It was Brad, Thank you, Reggie.
Speaker 4: It was Brad Paisley on Friday night.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about that. I didn't see it because you know,
Speaker 3: was it good?
Speaker 4: I didn't hear it, so I say it was good
Speaker 4: based on the five or six people that I did
Speaker 4: ask on Friday night. When I saw them afterwards and
Speaker 4: we were all celebrating the Freddie Freeman grand Slam, I said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: by the way, how was Brad Paisley And they were
Speaker 4: like he was fantastic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did a great job.
Speaker 4: And then David Vat say, you can actually ask David
Speaker 4: about this when he comes on. David knows Brad Paisley
Speaker 4: very well. Was that Brad Paisley's house during the winter
Speaker 4: meetings and had Brad and his wife on Dodger Talk
Speaker 4: from the booth on Friday night and came in and
Speaker 4: talked to him about the national anthem, and David's like,
Speaker 4: why don't you give your guitar to the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 4: You know, he could use it as a moment, you know,
Speaker 4: momento there, and He's like, no, no, this is my
Speaker 4: favorite guitar, not doing that. But he did a very
Speaker 4: good job. I'm not sure who's saying a game too.
Speaker 4: I should know this offhand, but yeah, it's a it's
Speaker 4: it wasn't bad.
Speaker 3: It wasn't. Brad Paisley's gonna do it right.
Speaker 5: You know that he's he's a good dude, he's a
Speaker 5: he's a great American, and of course you know he's
Speaker 5: the consummate professional.
Speaker 3: He's going to do it right.
Speaker 4: He is a huge Dodger fan by the way, too,
Speaker 4: which is surprising. He didn't grow up a Dodger fan.
Speaker 4: He became a Dodger fan. And now he saw the light. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he saw the lighting sit and now he's all in
Speaker 4: as far as being a Dodger fan. He splits his
Speaker 4: time between l A and Nashville, and when the Winter
Speaker 4: meetings were happening in Nashville this past December, David Vassay
Speaker 4: sort of sparked a conversation between he and the Dodgers
Speaker 4: front office, and it led to a gathering at Brad
Speaker 4: Paisley's house. Wow, and they were having a good time
Speaker 4: and just talking baseball, and it ended up being like
Speaker 4: multiple members of the Dodgers' front office and then members
Speaker 4: of the Tampa Bay Ray's office front office showed up
Speaker 4: as well. Has got some and you know what happened
Speaker 4: at this meeting, The Tyler glassnow trade happened at this meeting.
Speaker 4: The discussion about a possible deal started at this meeting
Speaker 4: at Brad Paisley's house. David Vass can tell more about
Speaker 4: because he was literally, You're never going to get anything
Speaker 4: like this other than scam. Yeah, absolutely, cats, you just
Speaker 4: you just you just I mean, David's told the story,
Speaker 4: so I'm not telling.
Speaker 5: Him that of course, but I hadn't heard it before,
Speaker 5: and especially when you tell it with you know, right
Speaker 5: off the U.
Speaker 3: Oh, this is how this happened. We got Glass now
Speaker 3: and you know this is great stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Vasso can tell you more about the conversations they
Speaker 4: had and the frameworks of a deal were in motion
Speaker 4: based on this gathering. And it was all because David
Speaker 4: and Brad Paisley wanted to hang out together. And then
Speaker 4: it was like, Hey, I'm gonna bring this person. He
Speaker 4: I'm gonna bring this person. And it ran into a
Speaker 4: small little party gathering Wow at Brad Paisley's house turned
Speaker 4: into the Winter meetings. Absolutely and make sing, you know,
Speaker 4: show hey signs with the Dodgers. I'm amoto shines. Tyler
Speaker 4: glassnow gets traded for from the Tampa Bay Rays and
Speaker 4: here we are Dodgers. A two oer series lead in
Speaker 4: this world series, Tony and Santa Clarita, thanks for being
Speaker 4: patient on this Monday morning.
Speaker 3: How you doing, Tony Hey.
Speaker 9: If show Hey isn't himself, they're gonna pitch around Freddy.
Speaker 9: That means it's Max Munsey's time to show up. And
Speaker 9: didn't Max Munsey have a dual home run game in
Speaker 9: the summertime in Yankee Stadium?
Speaker 3: I believe so. I believe so.
Speaker 9: And do you think Tommy Edmonds should hit from the
Speaker 9: left because Soto's not a good not a good defender.
Speaker 4: Well, it's a matchup a who's facing, you know, they're
Speaker 4: their facing that night is being the the benefits of
Speaker 4: a switch hitter and Tommy Edmund It'll be interesting to
Speaker 4: see how they face show Hey o Tani if he
Speaker 4: does in fact play tonight as the designated hitter, will
Speaker 4: they pitch around him? Will they attack them? Try to
Speaker 4: go after a wounded animal, so to speak, initch around him.
Speaker 3: I think this is the time that they'll go after.
Speaker 5: They they'll try to neutralize him by pitching him, and
Speaker 5: they'll feel it out too. I mean sometimes if your
Speaker 5: shoulders hurt like that too, and you pitch him away,
Speaker 5: you know, to try to reach for that ball can
Speaker 5: also probably be an effective thing. And they're gonna, they're gonna,
Speaker 5: you know, they're gonna map this whole thing out for sure.
Speaker 5: But you know, if show hey capitalized on a mistake
Speaker 5: that they make, he might not make any difference.
Speaker 4: On the flip side. You just said that, try to
Speaker 4: get him to chase. If your show Hey, and there's
Speaker 4: some ways of hitting some positions that hurt more than others,
Speaker 4: you're gonna want to stay away from that, whether it's
Speaker 4: reaching out, whatever the case may be. You don't want
Speaker 4: to feel that pain, So you're not gonna make that swing. Right,
Speaker 4: Maybe this prevents him from chasing balls. Maybe this really
Speaker 4: zero is in where he knows pitch has got to
Speaker 4: be in order for me to make contact and to
Speaker 4: be without any pain. Yeah, needs to be at this
Speaker 4: certain spot. He needs to be in this certain.
Speaker 3: Middle end, so to speak. But anything else I'm not
Speaker 3: going after.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think the bottom line is he
Speaker 5: can't get into a rhythm, even because it could affect
Speaker 5: him the rest of the you know, if there's you know,
Speaker 5: if it goes seven games too, he can't get into
Speaker 5: a rhythm where he's starting to change and or alter
Speaker 5: his approach and the way he swings, because then he's
Speaker 5: not Shoeotani, so he has to try to I would
Speaker 5: say stay with the basic plan because that's what he's
Speaker 5: all about. If he tried to even do micro changes,
Speaker 5: then you're asking for problems.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 4: This is a good thing Dodger fans, because when shoe
Speaker 4: Heotani refocused her in the season, stopped chasing pitches, really
Speaker 4: zeroed in on the pitches he was looking for, he
Speaker 4: was back to be in a show. Hey, getting on base,
Speaker 4: stealing basis, hitting for power.
Speaker 3: This is gonna be a good thing to tell you
Speaker 3: another team.
Speaker 5: There's times when people are sick, when they come to
Speaker 5: the ballpark with the flu or they they have, they
Speaker 5: don't feel well, they've got some injury. They wind up
Speaker 5: playing much better at times because they're not concentrating on
Speaker 5: anything else. Just I want to get through this game
Speaker 5: and get to bed. But I'm just gonna see the
Speaker 5: ball and hit and let a fall. They wind up
Speaker 5: having amazing games. Let's hope it happens for show. Hey, tonight,
Speaker 5: we expect him to be in the lineup. We'll find
Speaker 5: out more from David Vezy at the bottom of the hour,
Speaker 5: we'll hear from Walker Bealer next, and you, Dodger fans
Speaker 5: eight sixty six, nine eighty seven, two five seventy, leading
Speaker 5: you up to Game three of the World Series Dodgers
Speaker 5: and Yankees.
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