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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, everybody, welcome back to Relationships is a Bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>This is episode thirty seven. I am Mike here with

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<v Speaker 1>aj Benza and our sense Arena Wood.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey guys, hey, hey, everybody, what's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>How was everybody's well? I mean, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>show we did. I'm losing track of the day.

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<v Speaker 4>It was before the fourth of July. You can ask

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<v Speaker 4>everybody how the fourth was?

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<v Speaker 5>About the fourth? How was your fourth You guys went

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<v Speaker 5>on the boat. What'd you do?

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<v Speaker 4>We were all together. We went to the club.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh nice, very nice.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, you didn't see all Kenny's videos posts?

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<v Speaker 5>Didn't I didn't see anything. No, no, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>They were very nice fireworks. It was kind of club celebration.

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<v Speaker 2>There were tons of kids are out and we had

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<v Speaker 2>two kids on the table. We've been five of us

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<v Speaker 2>with the mother, Kenny's mother, and two couples. And it

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<v Speaker 2>was myful.

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<v Speaker 4>It was really really nice.

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<v Speaker 5>That's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we uh DoD had I think six desserts, six

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<v Speaker 1>or seven desserts.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, we all had.

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<v Speaker 2>Until now I can't get rid of those ponds and

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<v Speaker 2>all eating.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Since I landed in the United States three years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>we usually did celebrate in Jersey in Manusquam. Katty had

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<v Speaker 2>some Italian friends over there. They are based in New York,

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<v Speaker 2>but they have Italian roots like you guys, and they

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<v Speaker 2>very nice family with a bunch of kids, and always

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<v Speaker 2>it's a huge celebration in the yard with barbecue, with

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<v Speaker 2>NonStop drinking, and a lot of people are coming over

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<v Speaker 2>from different states. So this year I've been missed out

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<v Speaker 2>because we're doing way too many trips to New York

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<v Speaker 2>which are random for different reasons. So we couldn't squizz

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<v Speaker 2>in and do one more for this one day celebration,

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<v Speaker 2>and we decided to stay here. But I think we

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<v Speaker 2>did great because we spent time together. It was different

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<v Speaker 2>in a fy, organ nice way. It was nice, you know, club.

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<v Speaker 5>Very nice. I got.

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<v Speaker 3>I got nostalgic because all I remember was Fourth of

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<v Speaker 3>julys on Long Island, where my father's birthday was the fifth,

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<v Speaker 3>So the fourth of July was always a big party, weekend, fishing, clamming,

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<v Speaker 3>stick ball.

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<v Speaker 5>It was just you know, the pool, the music, the food.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just stayed in with Rocco for but I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't do anything, just chilled out home.

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<v Speaker 5>What a difference. But I'm glad you guys did the

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<v Speaker 5>big the big day. That's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, it was really nice.

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<v Speaker 5>That's great.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you ever do the yacht club dances? Yacht club

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<v Speaker 4>bablon yacht club dance?

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<v Speaker 5>Now we brought it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was such a oxy moron to call that the yacht club.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think the biggest boat there was like

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty two foot Boston whale.

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<v Speaker 4>There was nobody there. I had a yacht.

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<v Speaker 1>It was basically an old house, a pool, a room

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<v Speaker 1>with a couple of ping pong tables, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>had a nice dock that. There were a few people

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<v Speaker 1>who had decent boats, but mostly you're you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>were always bringing my nineteen foot Mako around.

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<v Speaker 5>Make dock over there. I love that. I love that makeup.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh No, you know we did.

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<v Speaker 3>We did break into Southwood Home now the Southwood ho

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<v Speaker 3>on the left shirt month.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, Me and me and Ronnie and Freddie broke into

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<v Speaker 5>that through the roof and.

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<v Speaker 4>Through the roof.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there was like a I don't know how we

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<v Speaker 3>heard about this. This is forty years ago, maybe forty

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<v Speaker 3>five years ago. There was a way to get in

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<v Speaker 3>from the roof and walk down these steps and get

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<v Speaker 3>in the joint.

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<v Speaker 5>Who knows. We just you know, we were kids just

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<v Speaker 5>looking for fun and we found it. Just crazy shit. Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>this is not Fourth of July related, It's just it's

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<v Speaker 5>a general yacht club.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I got you talking about clubs, I guess. But

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<v Speaker 1>the Act Club always had like.

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<v Speaker 4>A Fourth of July dance right right.

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<v Speaker 1>And back, you know, beginning of junior high it was

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<v Speaker 1>like the you know, one of the only times you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be guaranteed that all the girls in the area. You

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<v Speaker 1>go right and you know, your girlfriend, Sue was a

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<v Speaker 1>stable at the h and so it was always nice

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<v Speaker 1>to see her at those events.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course, and uh, a bunch of them.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we had some cute girls at the.

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<v Speaker 5>At the at you know, you blew my mind last

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<v Speaker 5>week with Amy Lapenna's name and Nina Riggio.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't thought of those names and so long, and

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<v Speaker 3>now I can't. That's all I'm thinking about. Amy La

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<v Speaker 3>Penna was so sexy. Gosh, man, I forgot about Nina

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<v Speaker 3>with the red hair.

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<v Speaker 5>Great great, great stuff?

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<v Speaker 4>Am I responsible for you?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>Take care of yourself? A couple of times to high

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<v Speaker 4>school fantasies this week.

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<v Speaker 3>If if I saw a picture of Nina or Amy

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<v Speaker 3>in that in that state in high school, or Jennifer

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<v Speaker 3>Jennifer so.

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<v Speaker 1>A so was the high school junior bikini pick would

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<v Speaker 1>have done for you this week.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds gross, but when I was younger, the first

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<v Speaker 3>girl I ever so, I wasn't like, I'm sorry for

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<v Speaker 3>saying this.

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<v Speaker 5>I wasn't a big masturbator, Like I just didn't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I had girlfriends here and there, and at some point

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<v Speaker 3>I discovered it and it was over.

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<v Speaker 4>At some point. Yeah, at some point in at age

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<v Speaker 4>eleven now, I would read.

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<v Speaker 3>The magazines on the floor of the bathroom penthouse for

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<v Speaker 3>him and read those stories about long haul truckers meeting

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<v Speaker 3>a hit shiker. You know, I wrote those out of college.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to be one of the guys who wrote

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<v Speaker 3>those stories. But no, I Jennifer Cutey was the first chick.

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<v Speaker 5>Who was a year younger than Nuns in high school

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<v Speaker 5>that I thought of her one night and the.

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<v Speaker 3>Blankets hit me a certain way, and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>this is interesting, this feels really good.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess I'll keep doing this movement.

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<v Speaker 4>And there we go, Wow, yeah, there you have it, folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, when I listened to stories like this,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand. It's know, how powerful is imagination living in

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<v Speaker 2>the illusion. If you think about it, when we get

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<v Speaker 2>acquainted with a new person, no matter what what age

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<v Speaker 2>and gender you are in uh, you have a first

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<v Speaker 2>impression about the person, and sometimes we give the better

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<v Speaker 2>qualities people deserve, and we create an image of the

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<v Speaker 2>person in our head and we have fallen in love

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<v Speaker 2>and we get attracted and sexually and emotionally and get

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<v Speaker 2>sensitive about those people and the same here. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>imagination is so powerful. They say that that all life

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<v Speaker 2>has illusion. If you think about that, about the reflection

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<v Speaker 2>of the eye and how physically it's working for us.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's all we see. It's already the post. It's

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<v Speaker 2>never the present.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's amazing. And it's just a snapshot of

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<v Speaker 5>Jennifer Cuti at the front of the high school by

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<v Speaker 5>the girls gym and the sun behind her, and her

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<v Speaker 5>eyes were so blue.

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<v Speaker 4>Grown my god.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean that's the only vision I have. I never like, wow,

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<v Speaker 5>you know that's the version she was right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, this is big, This is a this is big,

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<v Speaker 1>This is a worldwide announcement. AJ doing his first his

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<v Speaker 1>first high school whacking to a picture of Jennifer Cutie

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the Ghost.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll go I'll go forward.

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<v Speaker 3>She had a light tan sweater on and this is

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<v Speaker 3>what got me ready. She had a jacket that said

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<v Speaker 3>Hunker Mountains. She skied hunked it right, But her nipples

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<v Speaker 3>came through the tan sweater and that destroyed me.

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<v Speaker 5>That destroyed me. Killer. Can't see that.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't see it, Okay, I can't. I'm drawing a blank.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't come up with the high school girl. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to say I had the Farah poster, and.

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<v Speaker 5>I had I did that too.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, I love that Farah post.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the all time because she looked innocent at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time.

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<v Speaker 5>She made you, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, uh like maybe the most she She was so beautiful, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so photogenic, and just that poster did it for That's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be the top poster of all time.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, he has the orange the orange one piece. And

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<v Speaker 3>if you remember, her hair spelled S E X the

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<v Speaker 3>way her curls were laying. If you looked at it

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<v Speaker 3>and said sex on her post, you could see the.

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<v Speaker 5>S and the X and her hair.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, her manager at the time was a friend of

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<v Speaker 3>mine when I was a giant, when I was a

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<v Speaker 3>columnist and old Jewish guy who was a master at marketing,

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<v Speaker 3>and he came up with that, and then then he

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<v Speaker 5>It got so weird.

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<v Speaker 3>He was much older than I was, and I did

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<v Speaker 3>end up dating his girlfriend. He was very good at

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<v Speaker 3>with their beauty with posters and uh co starring and shit.

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<v Speaker 5>That was Jay's Uh, that was Jay's thing. He was

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<v Speaker 5>great at that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm so looking forward to the Superman movie coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why. I just thought I never go

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<v Speaker 1>to superhero movies. I don't watch any of that Marvel shit.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's been a long time since it was a

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<v Speaker 1>Superman thing. This time they're gonna get it right. Blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah. And then they woke the whole thing out.

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<v Speaker 4>Why the hell would they do that?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I know they didn't. I didn't like the guy

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<v Speaker 5>they chose to be Superman.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a terrible I saw the commercial and I said,

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<v Speaker 3>this movie is not gonna do shit. Terrible, terrible casting.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything nowadays get gets snipped, gets neutered. It's just the

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<v Speaker 3>way a lot of studios are. They're being overly protective

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<v Speaker 3>of people's feelings, and political correctness is still something that

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<v Speaker 3>is out there. Every different type of person is recognized

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<v Speaker 3>in writers' rooms, trans people, gay people, black people.

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<v Speaker 5>It just it's not the way Hollywood used to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Does nobody get nobody sees the ratings of Taylor Sheridan shows.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't understand what the heck happens. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like you have a good season of ted Lasso and

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<v Speaker 1>then you have to freaking ruin it, loook the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing out.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I started watching this golf series called Stick.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>First episode really promising, boom. Second episode, okay, boom. Third

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<v Speaker 1>episode He's got to meet a girl. The kid meets

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<v Speaker 1>a girl and she's out of freaking control. Woke, crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>ruin the whole freaking show. Never watched another minute of it.

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<v Speaker 4>While we do that, I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's it's not dead yet, it's not dead. It's

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<v Speaker 1>I'm launching a series now where I think they do

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<v Speaker 4>Hats is great.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have one of the lead characters, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>Smart's who's great too.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's a great series.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great series. But they're doing this constantly, and

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<v Speaker 3>But that's where we're.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, the New Superman is about the new immigrants

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<v Speaker 3>I can't take it. That's really what Superman's about. That's

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<v Speaker 3>every superhero movie because they go too much politically correct

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<v Speaker 1>So he he is an illegal immigrant from Krypton.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'll tell you is I tell you speaking of ice.

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<v Speaker 5>It's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I saw that craziness with your lovely Mayor in

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<v Speaker 1>It was bound bound to happen with all the crazy

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<v Speaker 1>rhetoric that's out there. But anyway, well, let's uh, let's

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<v Speaker 1>look at my topics for for this week and see

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<v Speaker 1>if there's some fun there. Let's go to the relationship

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<v Speaker 1>that I think has probably been the top relationship of

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty four twenty twenty five time period, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the bromance turned non romance between Elon Musk and

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump, the one time co presidents, as I still

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<v Speaker 1>love to call them. It's gone to a different place. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Elon's been really critical of the Big Beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>Bill since the onset.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like there was a period where he was

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<v Speaker 4>But he ratcheted up that criticism.

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<v Speaker 1>As we sort of got to that July fourth deadline

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<v Speaker 1>that that Trump had put out there, and he's now

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<v Speaker 5>Oh god.

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<v Speaker 1>So the guy who once declared a love for Trump

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<v Speaker 1>as deep as quote one heterosexual man can have for

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<v Speaker 1>another has lost that loving feeling in a very deep way.

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<v Speaker 1>He's now claiming that the policies of Trump will lead

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<v Speaker 4>And then Trump put out I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like an eight hundred word post on Truth's social

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<v Speaker 1>where I just read a little bit of it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sad to watch Elon go completely quote off the rails,

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<v Speaker 1>essentially becoming an all caps train wreck over the past

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<v Speaker 1>five weeks. He even wants to start a third political party,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that they have never succeeded in the US.

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<v Speaker 1>The one thing third parties are good for is the

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<v Speaker 1>creation of complete and total capitalized disruption and chaos, and

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<v Speaker 1>we have enough of that with the radical left Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>who have lost their confidence.

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<v Speaker 4>In their minds.

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans, on the other hand, are a smooth running machine

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<v Speaker 1>that just passed the biggest bill of its kind and

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<v Speaker 1>the history of our country. It's a great bill, but

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately for Elon it eliminates the ridiculous electric vehicle mandate.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's putting Elon's position on the on the big

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful bill, on the electric vehicle mandates, and that's really

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<v Speaker 1>But any thoughts on the bromance gone bad, guys, third party.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna let Arena do this, But I want to

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<v Speaker 3>I did predict months ago there was going to be

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<v Speaker 3>I know Trump too well, it's just the way he

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<v Speaker 5>I learned a lesson.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't heckle a comic when he's on stage with

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<v Speaker 3>the microphone because they always win. In the same way,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't keep heckling the president who leads the free world.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not going to beat Trump right now where he's at.

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<v Speaker 3>So Elon is becoming a cranky baby. But Trump's going

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<v Speaker 3>to win this war. But Arena, you tell me what

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<v Speaker 3>you think about the relationship finished two men.

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<v Speaker 2>You know I told you before about creating an image

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<v Speaker 2>of the person after the first impression, you probably have

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<v Speaker 2>seen a lot of couples when people meet and they say, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>she's exactly like me. She's my best friend, she's my past. See,

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<v Speaker 2>we have so much in comma and after these two

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<v Speaker 2>we just never talk again and hit each other great classics.

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<v Speaker 2>So here kind of that type of thing, because don't

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<v Speaker 2>become illusional about persons, so you don't have to become

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<v Speaker 2>delusional afterwards. It was a very quick merriage. I know

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<v Speaker 2>it should have happened so Trump would have won, and

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<v Speaker 2>he did, and it was very empowering for him to

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<v Speaker 2>get Illn Musk on his side. And I'm not would

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<v Speaker 2>say who is right who's wrong, Like I'm nobody. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not in financial or political field to judge and none

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<v Speaker 2>of those guys. But I feel like a little fortune

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<v Speaker 2>teller because as Uaj said that it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a fight one day in disagreement, I've said a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of podcasts ago or maybe the last one that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a new party, Elon Musk will try to

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<v Speaker 2>do it. And now he is doing that. And I

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<v Speaker 2>have to tell you, as far as I see American people,

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<v Speaker 2>they are very dedicated and determined to everything what have

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<v Speaker 2>been created for centuries, whether it rituals, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>tradition or food. They're very consistent, consistent, excuse me about

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<v Speaker 2>their choices. So I have no idea if the third

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<v Speaker 2>party would survive in this country. But I do believe

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<v Speaker 2>that American needed a little change. I always have been

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<v Speaker 2>speaking about the independent about something. I'm independent. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Mike you did that. You said a couple of times

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<v Speaker 2>I'm independent. That I would probably call myself closer to

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans one hundred percent, like because I respect a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of a lot of a lot of things about their

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<v Speaker 2>choice making. But there are a couple of things that

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<v Speaker 2>I have my own opinion about that. But they're still

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<v Speaker 2>in process, so maybe they will get there. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I would say that I'm independent, much closer to

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans if I had a choice to vote. But there

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<v Speaker 2>is no such a party as independent. You can feel independent,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can vote for that correct. It's you go

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<v Speaker 2>left or you go right, and truth is always in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle. We know it in life. So I have

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<v Speaker 2>no idea what Elan Musk will be doing right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say one thing Trump, whatever he is doing

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<v Speaker 2>with any country of the world, with every inside and

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<v Speaker 2>outside out action. It's always for the benefit of American

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<v Speaker 2>American people. Meanwhile, Ilan Musk has a globe. He's already

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<v Speaker 2>traveling to Mars. He's already building this train for two

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<v Speaker 2>hours to get to London or even less. So he

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<v Speaker 2>why I think they had a disagreement of this big,

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful bill, because they are too strong personalities. Plus Trump

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking about America and cut off expenses and taxes

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<v Speaker 2>and so on. Elon Musk was thinking about all to

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<v Speaker 2>debt of United States, which all countries have. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's thinking way too globally to represent just America.

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<v Speaker 2>He should go on very international level. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>like he lives here. So that's why he's taking care

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<v Speaker 2>of America in his own way, the way he thinks

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<v Speaker 2>it's the best for the country. But I'm just telling you,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he has a very very global view on

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry, I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think these two people.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't understand the times, or maybe they understand too well

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<v Speaker 1>just how many people.

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<v Speaker 4>They reach with their words.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>With the following that Elon has on X, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>views or listens to anything he posts. Trump will do

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<v Speaker 1>it on truth Social, but then it gets picked up

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<v Speaker 1>on X and it will get tens of millions or

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of millions. So there's nothing discreet about anything that

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<v Speaker 1>they that they say. And there these two personalities who

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<v Speaker 4>They both of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Say things they don't mean, just like other volatable people

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<v Speaker 1>do in relationships, and it raises the bar and raises

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<v Speaker 1>the bar, and then you know, there's there's an explosion.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I don't blame Musk for his frustration.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, here's a guy who, I mean gave up,

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<v Speaker 1>walked away from so much every day that he has

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<v Speaker 1>going on with his companies to try and help this country.

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<v Speaker 1>He gave an unbelievable effort at at least showing the

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<v Speaker 1>pathway towards saving half a trillion, three quarters of a trillion,

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<v Speaker 4>Dollars, but didn't realize that.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump was really probably not serious about it from the

432
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<v Speaker 1>get go, I mean, was only gonna let so much happen.

433
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<v Speaker 1>Washington was only gonna let so much happen. There's just

434
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<v Speaker 1>it is what it is. What it is, and you know,

435
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<v Speaker 1>trying to to do something like get a balanced budget

436
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<v Speaker 1>amendment passed or you know, something to finally shake because

437
00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:51.599
<v Speaker 1>he's absolutely right, People like Thomas Massey and and Ram

438
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<v Speaker 1>Paul and others are absolutely right that at some point

439
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<v Speaker 1>somebody has to be brave enough to say, we can't

440
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<v Speaker 1>continue down the path we're on. We can't continue with

441
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<v Speaker 1>social security, we can't continue with with thirty plus million

442
00:23:10.519 --> 00:23:12.400
<v Speaker 1>trillion dollars in debt.

443
00:23:12.440 --> 00:23:15.839
<v Speaker 4>It's we got to cut the spending because you can't.

444
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<v Speaker 3>No.

445
00:23:16.640 --> 00:23:19.240
<v Speaker 1>Trump's plan here is he believes he's going to raise

446
00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:23.799
<v Speaker 1>the revenue enough to impact the deficit. Look, he'll prove

447
00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:27.119
<v Speaker 1>a shit ton of people wrong if that actually happens.

448
00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:32.640
<v Speaker 1>And the independent people or groups that have looked at

449
00:23:32.680 --> 00:23:37.680
<v Speaker 1>this bill have been pretty unanimous that it's going to increase,

450
00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:40.039
<v Speaker 1>not decrease, the deficit.

451
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<v Speaker 4>So but you know, it's such a game of compromise.

452
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<v Speaker 1>And when you run the kind of companies that must runs,

453
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<v Speaker 1>you're a dictator. I mean you are a dictator in

454
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<v Speaker 1>those companies. It comes down to you. You're the controlling shareholder.

455
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<v Speaker 1>In every one of those circumstances. If something's going to

456
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<v Speaker 1>happen in those companies, it's because you said yes. And

457
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<v Speaker 1>if it's something that's not going to happen, it's because

458
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<v Speaker 1>you said no. And you are used to being a king.

459
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, people like to.

460
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<v Speaker 1>Use that terminology as it relates to Trump, but if

461
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<v Speaker 1>you look at the two of them, the one who

462
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<v Speaker 1>lives life more as a king is actually Musk because

463
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<v Speaker 1>he's running companies and can make those kind of decisions.

464
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<v Speaker 1>And so to come into a job and to find

465
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<v Speaker 1>all of this fraud, all of this misuse of funds,

466
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<v Speaker 1>everything that they were able to find, and then to

467
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<v Speaker 1>not be able to take action on so much of it,

468
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<v Speaker 1>and then to watch a bill get past that's going

469
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<v Speaker 1>to increase.

470
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<v Speaker 4>The overall deficit. It you know it. It drove a

471
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<v Speaker 4>man so.

472
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<v Speaker 3>Well that that's why right now Trump is the king

473
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<v Speaker 3>and you're not going to get much done in terms

474
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<v Speaker 3>of going against him and this third party shit. But

475
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<v Speaker 3>you know, Elon Musk is a young guy. He's also

476
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<v Speaker 3>once in a millennial millennium genius. Uh, He's certainly going

477
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<v Speaker 3>to be around and and you know, get with the

478
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<v Speaker 3>next several presidents to push his agenda.

479
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<v Speaker 5>So in the long run, he's gonna win.

480
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<v Speaker 3>But right now, with Trump holding the gavel and holding

481
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<v Speaker 3>you know, America over his head, uh, Elon has to

482
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<v Speaker 3>make his points and just you know, jabbing, well.

483
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<v Speaker 1>Elon is going to appeal to a lot of people

484
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<v Speaker 1>like me. If he actually really wanted to run to

485
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<v Speaker 1>find people who are more or less socially liberal but

486
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<v Speaker 1>fiscally conservative. That's kind of a lane that nobody's servicing

487
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<v Speaker 1>right now. That is kind of looking for a home

488
00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:51.480
<v Speaker 1>and and that's what he presents. But but to fragment

489
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<v Speaker 1>the Trump vote and create a lane for the Democrats

490
00:25:56.519 --> 00:25:59.720
<v Speaker 1>to drive through would would be so self defeating. He's

491
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<v Speaker 1>got to know that, and people advising him have to

492
00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:05.079
<v Speaker 1>know that, and so something has to give somewhere along.

493
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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's gonna let a bunch of congressional

494
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<v Speaker 1>seats go by the go by the wayside and hand

495
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<v Speaker 1>him over to Democrats.

496
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<v Speaker 3>And right, but we have to remember we have to

497
00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:16.359
<v Speaker 3>remember too that if the Democrats wanted twenty twenty four,

498
00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:19.680
<v Speaker 3>Elon's businesses would have been doomed. So it isn't like

499
00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:24.079
<v Speaker 3>he made this partnership and friendship with Trump just because

500
00:26:24.119 --> 00:26:26.880
<v Speaker 3>he's a good guy. The other side couldn't win or

501
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:29.160
<v Speaker 3>else Elan was gonna have a big, much bigger problems

502
00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:29.839
<v Speaker 3>than he has now.

503
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<v Speaker 5>So as I said, he's gonna be around for a

504
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<v Speaker 5>long time.

505
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<v Speaker 3>And this third party thing, I'm not sure, but I

506
00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:40.400
<v Speaker 3>know the next the next administration he throws his his

507
00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:43.000
<v Speaker 3>strength and trust behind, they're going to do a lot

508
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<v Speaker 3>better than other people would.

509
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<v Speaker 2>So may I give a little tougher about it. I

510
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<v Speaker 2>totally think that no matter what which country you do,

511
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<v Speaker 2>represent that political movement, any kind of movement, it's a

512
00:26:57.000 --> 00:26:59.559
<v Speaker 2>dirty place to be. Why it's always be a trick

513
00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:02.599
<v Speaker 2>in for that pops up a lot of things and

514
00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:07.440
<v Speaker 2>facts are hidden, a lot of manipulation on very international level,

515
00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:09.559
<v Speaker 2>and you have to do this or that. So to

516
00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:14.319
<v Speaker 2>be a political guardian, it's going to be restricted to be.

517
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:18.559
<v Speaker 2>You have to do things that you have to do sometimes.

518
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:22.599
<v Speaker 2>I see Ellen Musk, I don't know. There are people,

519
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:26.079
<v Speaker 2>for example, like killers. They can't get married, and they

520
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:28.680
<v Speaker 2>can't get married because God doesn't want them to belong

521
00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:31.119
<v Speaker 2>to one person. They want them to belong to the world.

522
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why Ill and Musk being genius one

523
00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:38.279
<v Speaker 2>of the kind wants to be married to America and

524
00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:42.680
<v Speaker 2>to political movement of United States. He's so up to me.

525
00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:46.559
<v Speaker 2>He's so special. I didn't even want to know his

526
00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:50.759
<v Speaker 2>personality because I only only wanted to know that Ila

527
00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:54.359
<v Speaker 2>Musk did this, Ill Musk did that. He's interviewing people,

528
00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:57.960
<v Speaker 2>he's spontaneous, he's doing innovations, he's flying to Mars. I

529
00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:00.599
<v Speaker 2>love him like that. I want Elan Musk back. His

530
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:06.920
<v Speaker 2>whole is world. It's not America. He's exceptional, super talented,

531
00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:11.400
<v Speaker 2>super gifted, and he's going down to politics. Why there

532
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:13.240
<v Speaker 2>would like because he was.

533
00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:18.759
<v Speaker 1>He was so offended when he took over Twitter. He's

534
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:22.240
<v Speaker 1>so offended at what had gone on inside of Twitter,

535
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:25.200
<v Speaker 1>the impact Twitter had had on the twenty twenty election,

536
00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:27.279
<v Speaker 1>et cetera, that it drove him.

537
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:31.200
<v Speaker 2>So he feels used and he wants to put I.

538
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<v Speaker 3>Don't think it's I don't I still think you have

539
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:36.839
<v Speaker 3>to know his businesses would have done worse if the

540
00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:39.960
<v Speaker 3>Democrats won in twenty twenty four. So he did this

541
00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:43.319
<v Speaker 3>to survive himself. It wasn't like he just threw a

542
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:44.920
<v Speaker 3>support to John is a good guy.

543
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:47.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't think so. I don't think so I mean,

544
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:51.559
<v Speaker 4>look a little bit better, a little bit worse. His businesses,

545
00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:52.400
<v Speaker 4>none of it mattered.

546
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>His grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren have more money than they

547
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:01.119
<v Speaker 1>well be able to spend.

548
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:02.599
<v Speaker 4>And that's just not it.

549
00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:06.759
<v Speaker 1>I believe he's incredibly principled to the point.

550
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:10.759
<v Speaker 4>Where, uh, you know, his sort of his his.

551
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Principle and his aspergers or whatever you want to call

552
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:19.480
<v Speaker 1>his condiction, those things combined to where he he becomes

553
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:24.319
<v Speaker 1>just so driven and singular in his effort that this

554
00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:28.759
<v Speaker 1>is all he's offended. He's offended by what has happened

555
00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>here because he gave so much to us.

556
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm not saying he's right or wrong.

557
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that's you know what I didn't. I didn't

558
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:39.279
<v Speaker 1>get I didn't understand what you said there. Fact he does.

559
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:40.599
<v Speaker 1>He does feel us for.

560
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<v Speaker 2>Sure, absolutely. And I tell you as a person because

561
00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:47.400
<v Speaker 2>my uncle was not that level but politician in Ukraine

562
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:50.480
<v Speaker 2>into parliament one or four hundred and fifty people like

563
00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:53.000
<v Speaker 2>who's part of the rulers of the country. And I

564
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:55.240
<v Speaker 2>have to tell you he was poisoned. It was a

565
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:59.240
<v Speaker 2>criminal murder. And that's why I'm telling you I don't

566
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:03.119
<v Speaker 2>know why sad this genius, extreme talent, one of the kind.

567
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:06.559
<v Speaker 2>We don't have them a lot and enough in this world.

568
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:11.160
<v Speaker 2>He's moving the world, you know, with unbelievable speed to

569
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:14.640
<v Speaker 2>the stars. Why he is going on the level of

570
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:17.440
<v Speaker 2>politics which is always dirty and manipulity.

571
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:22.920
<v Speaker 4>Because he wanted to help and he thought he was uniquely.

572
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Positioned, not before before what he wanted. I know what

573
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.200
<v Speaker 2>he wanted. Now he has to pass on it. And

574
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<v Speaker 2>I believe that American needs refreshment, okay, and not only

575
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:36.759
<v Speaker 2>left on right. And I told you two podcasts ago

576
00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:38.759
<v Speaker 2>that he will do it, you will, right.

577
00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:39.799
<v Speaker 4>I was right.

578
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:43.640
<v Speaker 2>It's a woman's intuition. But I have to tell you

579
00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:47.400
<v Speaker 2>because he's so unbelievable with his thirteen ideas, that's his

580
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:50.839
<v Speaker 2>place the world, not one country.

581
00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well we'll see if if this third party takes

582
00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:57.279
<v Speaker 3>off and it's really serious, then the midterms are going

583
00:30:57.319 --> 00:30:59.480
<v Speaker 3>to be very interesting because you're going to take away

584
00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:03.000
<v Speaker 3>votes and uh, you know, a lot's gonna be hanging

585
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:03.559
<v Speaker 3>in the balance.

586
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:06.759
<v Speaker 2>All the world depends from America anyway. Maybe that's his

587
00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:11.480
<v Speaker 2>way to influence. The world started from United States.

588
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Not a bad idea, well, wild, I don't think he'll,

589
00:31:16.599 --> 00:31:18.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, bite his nose off to spite his face.

590
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I think he'll there'll be some sort of channeling of

591
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:27.759
<v Speaker 1>whatever this ends up being to where it's not going

592
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:33.279
<v Speaker 1>to damage the Republicans, who he certainly sees as much

593
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:36.480
<v Speaker 1>more viable for the country than than the other side,

594
00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>even though he sees the uniparty, if you will, right, right, right,

595
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:43.319
<v Speaker 1>let's let's turn to this that we haven't been able

596
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:47.119
<v Speaker 1>to probably turn away from. I know, I haven't this

597
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:52.440
<v Speaker 1>tragedy in Texas and then everything that's sort of grown

598
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:55.559
<v Speaker 1>out of that, the stuff that's beautiful and amazing and

599
00:31:55.640 --> 00:32:00.000
<v Speaker 1>the stuff that's disgusting and political and and everything like that.

600
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:07.440
<v Speaker 4>But we're just such a freak thing. And you to me.

601
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:12.200
<v Speaker 1>When I looked at the topography there, which I've heard

602
00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:15.359
<v Speaker 1>of Texas Hill Country, I never really spent. I've been

603
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:17.559
<v Speaker 1>to San Antonio a bunch of times. I've been to Austin,

604
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:19.599
<v Speaker 1>and I know it's kind of in between there and

605
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:20.279
<v Speaker 1>just north of the.

606
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:22.480
<v Speaker 4>But I've never been through it.

607
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:27.640
<v Speaker 1>These hills have like fifteen hundred to three thousand foot

608
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:32.079
<v Speaker 1>sort of elevations, so there are many mountains and that

609
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>area that got hit here sort of if you think

610
00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:38.200
<v Speaker 1>of the mountains as like a u and there being.

611
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:42.880
<v Speaker 4>A flat bottom to the you all this water. It's

612
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:45.519
<v Speaker 4>like the camp was at the bottom of a drain.

613
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:49.640
<v Speaker 1>It just all this water just came in, flooted down

614
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:54.599
<v Speaker 1>these hills, right into this catch basin, right where this

615
00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>camp stood, and.

616
00:32:56.400 --> 00:33:01.519
<v Speaker 4>I mean three feet of rock. But but just.

617
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>The timing of it, four o'clock in the morning, the

618
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>tar the rain could have could have focused ten miles

619
00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>in another direction. And it's no big I mean, it's

620
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:16.960
<v Speaker 1>a perfect storm of storms.

621
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<v Speaker 4>If you will. And yeah, and just there's nothing worse

622
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:21.920
<v Speaker 4>than seeing.

623
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:25.680
<v Speaker 5>Kids, families slept away. I can't. I can't say.

624
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:29.160
<v Speaker 3>You know, the great Catherine Stewart, my longtime listener, lives

625
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:32.119
<v Speaker 3>not far from there. She knows people who have died

626
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:34.079
<v Speaker 3>and stuff and friends with people who died.

627
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:36.640
<v Speaker 5>Uh, I can't you know.

628
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:39.960
<v Speaker 3>Look, we talked about Katrina with with your buddies in

629
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:41.799
<v Speaker 3>Louisiana last year.

630
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<v Speaker 5>A couple of years ago. Did did the fact that

631
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:47.359
<v Speaker 5>the water gets so high, so fat.

632
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:49.960
<v Speaker 3>Twenty two feet in Texas, twenty two feet in a

633
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:50.839
<v Speaker 3>matter of hours.

634
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:56.599
<v Speaker 1>Unbelievable, but well got to thirty thirty thirty really Yeah.

635
00:33:56.759 --> 00:33:58.960
<v Speaker 3>It's hard to keep reading it because of all the tragedy.

636
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:00.759
<v Speaker 3>But there's always happens, whether it's.

637
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:02.720
<v Speaker 5>Katrina or Sandy or any disaster.

638
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:07.039
<v Speaker 3>North Carolina politics, finger pointing, where's FEMA?

639
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:07.759
<v Speaker 5>What did you do?

640
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:10.760
<v Speaker 3>The trump suck a lot of the dough, suck a

641
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:13.079
<v Speaker 3>lot of employees out and make it different for the

642
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:16.119
<v Speaker 3>alarms to go off and people be told. I don't

643
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:18.920
<v Speaker 3>think so, because I heard that two days before they

644
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:23.360
<v Speaker 3>were warned about a possible flood. Maybe a lot of

645
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:26.280
<v Speaker 3>people don't like to leave. People just we'll be okay,

646
00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:28.239
<v Speaker 3>we've been through this before. We'll be all right. We

647
00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:31.000
<v Speaker 3>see it all the time, but this is so sad.

648
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:34.119
<v Speaker 3>But it's trumpet fault. It's dose at fault.

649
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:39.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's like I think the United States,

650
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:43.239
<v Speaker 2>it's as just say Snickele zone. It's geographically, you know,

651
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:47.840
<v Speaker 2>there are so many trials unexpectedly and it's a huge country.

652
00:34:48.039 --> 00:34:51.960
<v Speaker 2>And I would tell you that when somebody is leaving

653
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:55.440
<v Speaker 2>this planet, you usually think about God and you think, oh,

654
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:57.760
<v Speaker 2>he was taking this person for a reason, for good

655
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:01.880
<v Speaker 2>for bad, and you have lots of thirds. I know

656
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:04.880
<v Speaker 2>that some people don't love to leave their roots because

657
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:08.880
<v Speaker 2>that's what happened in was my citizenship, not citizenship with

658
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:12.400
<v Speaker 2>citizens of Ukraine. A lot of people could leave Ukraine,

659
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:15.199
<v Speaker 2>but they still don't. So people here are very loyal

660
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:18.599
<v Speaker 2>to their territories and origin as well. But I would

661
00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:22.400
<v Speaker 2>probably hear on this episode speak more about how to

662
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.199
<v Speaker 2>deal with it, because you know how many people lost

663
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:29.280
<v Speaker 2>their children, for example, and how you overcome the grief

664
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:32.880
<v Speaker 2>because it's almost impossible. I'll give you another example, which

665
00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:38.840
<v Speaker 2>was Kenny's friend guys from Cigar Lounges too, like great guys.

666
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Actually they lost two sons. And when you think about this,

667
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:45.760
<v Speaker 2>what happened in Texas, because that's a massive thing that

668
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:50.599
<v Speaker 2>nature created, and there were kind of death, very very

669
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:53.679
<v Speaker 2>strange test. One guy he fell on the bottom on

670
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:58.360
<v Speaker 2>the swamp or he was going with a dog and

671
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:01.039
<v Speaker 2>it was a bad weather. So one person death and

672
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:04.800
<v Speaker 2>the other guy had a very unexpected and extreme death

673
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:07.400
<v Speaker 2>as well. And you never know, because death is the death.

674
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:12.800
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter it's aircraft, its flows, floats in Texas

675
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:17.119
<v Speaker 2>or what happened in California, or it's Katrina hurricane. I

676
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:21.400
<v Speaker 2>think that it's very difficult for people to like to

677
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:24.880
<v Speaker 2>live after people who stayed alive. Because if you think

678
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:29.320
<v Speaker 2>about this, what is trauma? It's always personalized because you

679
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:33.000
<v Speaker 2>think that your grief is the worst because it touches

680
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:36.519
<v Speaker 2>you and let's say, worried somewhere else, but here, I

681
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:40.480
<v Speaker 2>lost my brother or father. That's personal, that's about me,

682
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:43.280
<v Speaker 2>and it looks bigger than anything else on the planet.

683
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:48.159
<v Speaker 2>It's always shocking or unexpected, and it's always you know, traumatized.

684
00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:51.239
<v Speaker 2>It's painful for you and how you live after. Because

685
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:54.639
<v Speaker 2>people first think they do they deny it. They think, oh, wow,

686
00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:57.599
<v Speaker 2>it's not happened. Maybe this person is alive. Because if

687
00:36:57.599 --> 00:36:59.880
<v Speaker 2>you think, now, what's happening to the mother's who look

688
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:03.920
<v Speaker 2>for the kids? You know your parents like and it's horrible,

689
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:07.039
<v Speaker 2>it's the worst. But after they feel a lot of anger.

690
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:13.119
<v Speaker 2>Why why am I child? Yeah? The other thing people

691
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:16.760
<v Speaker 2>start to think, what if what if we left on

692
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:20.960
<v Speaker 2>vacation into Hawaii? What if we went our birthday or

693
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:24.440
<v Speaker 2>some party celebration in New York? What if you know,

694
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:27.159
<v Speaker 2>what if I left here? In that signal that you

695
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:31.719
<v Speaker 2>should leave, And then after it starts kind of guiltless

696
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:37.480
<v Speaker 2>depression and the worst thing that acceptance. It's far away,

697
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:41.079
<v Speaker 2>so I'm sorry for the souls for a gun because

698
00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:43.639
<v Speaker 2>loss is a loss, but I've been most sorry for

699
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:48.639
<v Speaker 2>people who stayed because it's a painful life afterwards.

700
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:50.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I can't imagine this.

701
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:53.639
<v Speaker 3>I do think there's some yan and yang to this,

702
00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:57.400
<v Speaker 3>which is, you know, you think about all that the

703
00:37:57.480 --> 00:37:59.880
<v Speaker 3>talk over the years of Texas at one point being

704
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:02.840
<v Speaker 3>Mexico and then we take it back blah blah blah,

705
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:06.719
<v Speaker 3>and now you've got all these ice agents everywhere getting.

706
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:09.880
<v Speaker 5>Rid of Mexicans and Central Americans. And if you think

707
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:13.079
<v Speaker 5>about the you know, the Guadalupe means the river of

708
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:18.360
<v Speaker 5>the Wolf. It's a very strong, strong river, and Guadaloupe

709
00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:26.039
<v Speaker 5>in Spanish it represents resistance against oppression. Isn't that poetic

710
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:27.480
<v Speaker 5>about all the stuff.

711
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:30.559
<v Speaker 3>They're going through now, these Central Americans and then this

712
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:33.719
<v Speaker 3>river overflows in America and kills somebody.

713
00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:36.199
<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying it's a good thing, but it's almos.

714
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:37.159
<v Speaker 5>It gives me chills.

715
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:43.320
<v Speaker 3>It's like, what bigger, what bigger entity is listening and

716
00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:46.360
<v Speaker 3>watching all this stuff that's going on. Well, you've got

717
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:50.760
<v Speaker 3>boxers like Julio Caesars, shovels, they're just sport getting arrested

718
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:52.480
<v Speaker 3>and holed out of America the other day.

719
00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:55.480
<v Speaker 5>It's crazy, what's going on. There's a building around the

720
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:56.159
<v Speaker 5>corner that old.

721
00:38:56.519 --> 00:38:59.119
<v Speaker 3>I guess they're all eagles because the buildings stopped being

722
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:02.119
<v Speaker 3>put up. No one on the site anymore. It's like

723
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:04.519
<v Speaker 3>six stories high, an apartment building and it just stopped.

724
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:06.480
<v Speaker 3>It's wild, what's happening.

725
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:11.559
<v Speaker 2>The second favorite state. I love Texas.

726
00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:14.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah I've not been there enough, but I want to

727
00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:17.320
<v Speaker 3>love it. I love Texas people and what they stand for.

728
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:20.760
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I just.

729
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:26.320
<v Speaker 1>I know what I would be doing if God forbid,

730
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:28.760
<v Speaker 1>what do you do lost a child that way?

731
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:30.159
<v Speaker 4>I would be.

732
00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Obsessed with just hoping it was immediate, that they didn't

733
00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:42.239
<v Speaker 1>know it was coming, they didn't feel anything. It was

734
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:46.639
<v Speaker 1>over in a millisecond and that's it. But I'd be

735
00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:53.039
<v Speaker 1>having nightmares about them going through some horribly traumatic experience

736
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:56.239
<v Speaker 1>and having a painful death. And I mean that would

737
00:39:56.280 --> 00:40:01.199
<v Speaker 1>drive that would just drive me crazy. I see these

738
00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:06.079
<v Speaker 1>the family from Dallas that has the two just beautiful.

739
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:07.880
<v Speaker 4>Little girls, yeah eight years old.

740
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:11.800
<v Speaker 1>And the grace with which that family's handling everything, it's

741
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:14.840
<v Speaker 1>it's amazing and the strength is showing early. But you know,

742
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:19.480
<v Speaker 1>been around a lot of people right after tragedy and

743
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:25.159
<v Speaker 1>the grief doesn't kick in because the supports systems all around,

744
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:28.079
<v Speaker 1>friends and family are all around you. It's in the news,

745
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:32.159
<v Speaker 1>there's there are funerals to attend, there's stuff to prepare.

746
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:34.840
<v Speaker 4>There's all of that noise around it.

747
00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:39.039
<v Speaker 1>And then there's going to be when things get quiet

748
00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:42.119
<v Speaker 1>and you're supposed to move on with life and you

749
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:46.119
<v Speaker 1>can't move on because there's just this huge hole in

750
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:46.800
<v Speaker 1>your heart.

751
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:47.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

752
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:50.000
<v Speaker 3>That when the last relative leaves your house because you

753
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:51.880
<v Speaker 3>lost a parent or what have you, and the food

754
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:55.400
<v Speaker 3>is already and the funeral is done, the wake is done,

755
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:58.159
<v Speaker 3>they're all gone and you just left with your family

756
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:00.840
<v Speaker 3>and you then that's when you break down, like, fuck,

757
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:02.559
<v Speaker 3>now we have to deal with this with no one

758
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:03.599
<v Speaker 3>around us.

759
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:06.280
<v Speaker 5>And look at there's a woman and I'm sure there's

760
00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:10.039
<v Speaker 5>many who has carried twenty miles out of town. They

761
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:11.840
<v Speaker 5>found it clean into a tree. What.

762
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:14.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how long it takes to go twenty

763
00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:17.000
<v Speaker 3>miles in a flooding river, But what the fuck was

764
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:18.000
<v Speaker 3>that like for this woman?

765
00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:25.079
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine. It's a brutal thing. And when when

766
00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:26.079
<v Speaker 1>that kind.

767
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:27.920
<v Speaker 4>Of a tragedy happens.

768
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:33.960
<v Speaker 1>How anybody starts poking around the edges trying to find

769
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:37.079
<v Speaker 1>somebody to blame for political gain.

770
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:38.000
<v Speaker 4>Look it.

771
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:43.079
<v Speaker 1>The problem is it worked so well on Bush's second term,

772
00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:48.159
<v Speaker 1>blaming the aftermath of Katrina all on him, the pictures

773
00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:51.280
<v Speaker 1>of him flying above it in the in the helicopter

774
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:55.840
<v Speaker 1>and go to the ground and FEMA and and everything

775
00:41:55.880 --> 00:41:59.800
<v Speaker 1>became his destroyed the rest the remainder of his presidency.

776
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:04.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's where it was learned, how to do this,

777
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:09.199
<v Speaker 6>Take a tragedy and restage it for political gain and

778
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:12.440
<v Speaker 6>position happenings for political don't don't.

779
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:15.320
<v Speaker 5>Don't waste a big tragedy. There's a lot of ammo

780
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:17.880
<v Speaker 5>in that. Don't waste the tragedy. It's horrible.

781
00:42:18.159 --> 00:42:19.639
<v Speaker 4>It's uh, it's sad.

782
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:26.880
<v Speaker 1>And anybody who believes that anything that happened is the

783
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:32.519
<v Speaker 1>fault of this administration or the prior administration or its folks,

784
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:35.960
<v Speaker 1>it's just a horrible, horrible tragedy.

785
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:36.840
<v Speaker 5>You know.

786
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:39.400
<v Speaker 3>But then again, and I know you're right, these things converge,

787
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:43.039
<v Speaker 3>and you know, the impossible happens. But like in California,

788
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:47.639
<v Speaker 3>no water in the hydrants, you know, not sug not

789
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:50.519
<v Speaker 3>getting bullshit out of the forest, the dead wood. There

790
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:56.159
<v Speaker 3>were things that were done where California executives, administrators, politicians

791
00:42:56.440 --> 00:43:01.719
<v Speaker 3>are guilty of being lax in those So, I mean,

792
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:02.639
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna find out.

793
00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:07.079
<v Speaker 4>Sure now, I don't know if anybody's gonna be able to.

794
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Tell what would have happened had those things gone according

795
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:19.400
<v Speaker 1>to plan or or not happened, But there was going

796
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:21.920
<v Speaker 1>to be a tremendous amount of devastation.

797
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:25.159
<v Speaker 4>Regardless, you know so.

798
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:29.800
<v Speaker 1>And that's what happens is the right does it when

799
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:33.000
<v Speaker 1>tragedy happens when the left is in office, and the

800
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:35.360
<v Speaker 1>left does it when a tragedy happens when the right

801
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:36.079
<v Speaker 1>is in office.

802
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:38.480
<v Speaker 4>And it's just a horrible it's disgusting.

803
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:40.880
<v Speaker 5>I just let me correct me. From heat. This is

804
00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:42.960
<v Speaker 5>caused from just heavy rainfall.

805
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:46.280
<v Speaker 3>That's what began. I mean, that's essentially what didn't rainfall

806
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:48.800
<v Speaker 3>in the mountains. The mountains become the water oall flows

807
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:50.880
<v Speaker 3>and it just destroys.

808
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:56.119
<v Speaker 1>A tremendous amount of rainfall coming in a very short

809
00:43:56.199 --> 00:43:59.880
<v Speaker 1>period of time. It all only has one place to go.

810
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and you know, look it happened in nineteen

811
00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:08.320
<v Speaker 1>eighty seven. It didn't happen to can't mystic happened to

812
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:14.559
<v Speaker 1>another killed a bus full of young girls, not this young.

813
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:19.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean they were teenagers trying to evacuate. But this

814
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:23.599
<v Speaker 1>is an area that is susceptible to these things. It's

815
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:27.039
<v Speaker 1>just like, look, when I moved to California, I had

816
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:31.199
<v Speaker 1>no frickin' idea what I was doing. In New York,

817
00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:35.199
<v Speaker 1>we had hurricanes and in my lifetime, we never really

818
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:39.320
<v Speaker 1>had a super bad one. And you moved to California

819
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:44.199
<v Speaker 1>and you're not thinking about wildfires, and you're not thinking

820
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:47.719
<v Speaker 1>about mud slides, and you're not thinking about earthquakes, even

821
00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:49.920
<v Speaker 1>though you're scared of them. You don't know that there's

822
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:53.000
<v Speaker 1>like a place to live and not live to avoid.

823
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:56.559
<v Speaker 1>We just so happened to find an area we liked

824
00:44:56.559 --> 00:44:59.880
<v Speaker 1>and buy a house there that is actually pretty protected

825
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:03.920
<v Speaker 1>from shand area from everything but earthquakes. I mean, I

826
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:06.719
<v Speaker 1>don't think there's a place to go that you're protected

827
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:12.280
<v Speaker 1>from earthquakes. But these people who live in where every

828
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Santa Ana event there, you know they're crossing themselves or

829
00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:21.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, have the vulnerability to mud slides after the fires.

830
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:24.960
<v Speaker 3>It's you they should they should do like a long

831
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:28.119
<v Speaker 3>study on this area now to find out in the

832
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:32.159
<v Speaker 3>long run, how many divorces will there be, how many suicides,

833
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:35.599
<v Speaker 3>how many people stop working or just lose their their

834
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:39.079
<v Speaker 3>love of life for losing children. I'm not I don't

835
00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:41.199
<v Speaker 3>want to read this survey. I don't want to read

836
00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:45.679
<v Speaker 3>this down the road. But I can't imagine life just

837
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:49.840
<v Speaker 3>continuing when a child or two of yours gets just

838
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:53.199
<v Speaker 3>sucked away and gone. I can't imagine getting up, like

839
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:55.679
<v Speaker 3>you said, but everything's done and the papers are gone,

840
00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:58.440
<v Speaker 3>and then what you go back to your fucking job.

841
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:01.000
<v Speaker 3>You go back to your cubicle, go back to the office.

842
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:02.440
<v Speaker 3>I can't imagine it.

843
00:46:03.079 --> 00:46:06.159
<v Speaker 4>Hopefully the people around those families.

844
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Find a way to rally around those families and help

845
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:16.360
<v Speaker 1>support them. You you start charities in the name of

846
00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:22.119
<v Speaker 1>the lost kids to raise money for this cause or

847
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:26.000
<v Speaker 1>that cause, or you you have to. It's like a

848
00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:29.960
<v Speaker 1>tunnel of the towers. Frank Siller starts this thing after

849
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:33.519
<v Speaker 1>so do I, and it's it's that kind of thing

850
00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:36.119
<v Speaker 1>you have to. I think the only way to kind

851
00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:38.800
<v Speaker 1>of get through it. The families that I have seen

852
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:44.159
<v Speaker 1>get through things like this throw themselves at trying to

853
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:48.480
<v Speaker 1>find a cure or you know, help avoid the kind

854
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:53.440
<v Speaker 1>of city because now you're doing it in memory of

855
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:57.199
<v Speaker 1>that persona And the whole idea behind you're doing is

856
00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:01.320
<v Speaker 1>everything you're doing is wanting that memory to live on and.

857
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:04.480
<v Speaker 4>Give it greater, greater purpose.

858
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:06.519
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, you're right.

859
00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:11.320
<v Speaker 3>I know five K races, I've been around those tragedies,

860
00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:13.800
<v Speaker 3>but as a race for the kid who died, et cetera.

861
00:47:14.760 --> 00:47:17.039
<v Speaker 3>I know, it just puts on a very very sad

862
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:19.880
<v Speaker 3>course in life. And I'm sure marriages to deteriorate and

863
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:22.039
<v Speaker 3>suicides go up.

864
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:25.599
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I had a guy that I worked

865
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:29.719
<v Speaker 1>with for years who, at age thirty nine, had his

866
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:33.239
<v Speaker 1>aortic valve burst in our office.

867
00:47:33.360 --> 00:47:36.880
<v Speaker 4>While doing a meeting and he.

868
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I didn't understand what was I got in the ambulance

869
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:46.119
<v Speaker 1>with him as the MS guys came and they looked

870
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:48.119
<v Speaker 1>at me and they said, you know your friend is dead.

871
00:47:48.599 --> 00:47:51.480
<v Speaker 4>Oh God, And I didn't know.

872
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:58.760
<v Speaker 1>And it and I had called his wife and said,

873
00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:00.559
<v Speaker 1>Glenn fainted.

874
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:04.159
<v Speaker 4>I'm taking him to the hospital. Meet me at the hospital.

875
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:08.239
<v Speaker 4>So now I've got his wife coming.

876
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:12.840
<v Speaker 1>To meet me and she thinks they fainted in the office,

877
00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:14.840
<v Speaker 1>and she's going to get there, and.

878
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:19.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to have to tell her these days, and well,

879
00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:21.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, we we used to.

880
00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:23.559
<v Speaker 1>He had three young kids at the time, and we

881
00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:28.320
<v Speaker 1>started a a trust to pay for college for the

882
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:31.599
<v Speaker 1>kids and did an annual golf tournament and raised a

883
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:33.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of money through that golf tournament that that got

884
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:37.039
<v Speaker 1>the kids through college and kept Glenn's name a lot

885
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:42.199
<v Speaker 1>of it. But her life afterwards, I mean, you know,

886
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:47.360
<v Speaker 1>just and she's a really strong, really really a brilliant woman.

887
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:49.320
<v Speaker 1>But I mean it's a struggle.

888
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:52.880
<v Speaker 5>I mean, there's no we're talking about this right this river.

889
00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:57.320
<v Speaker 3>Meanwhile in Ukraine, where Arena's from, this is happening on

890
00:48:57.360 --> 00:48:59.880
<v Speaker 3>a daily basis, Like people are losing the cellar.

891
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:03.880
<v Speaker 4>Still happening, happened yesterday.

892
00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what, aj, what's the difference?

893
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:10.280
<v Speaker 2>In my mind? I think that this is very horrible

894
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:14.639
<v Speaker 2>to admit. But I don't know it's a political mistake,

895
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:20.440
<v Speaker 2>it's administrative mistake, or it's you spoke about administration, it's

896
00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:24.920
<v Speaker 2>God's administration. The things like these massive things, whatever it's

897
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:29.360
<v Speaker 2>war or its hurricane, are happening because if you think

898
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:32.360
<v Speaker 2>about it, how many lives I'd taken at the same second,

899
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:36.840
<v Speaker 2>the same moment I know, like all over, different genders,

900
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:43.599
<v Speaker 2>different ages, different inspirations, different beliefs, different mentalities, nationalities. Sometimes

901
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:47.360
<v Speaker 2>depends because America is a multicultural country. So you can't

902
00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:50.079
<v Speaker 2>say that we're only Americans. They were, you know, so

903
00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:54.159
<v Speaker 2>people with different destinies and different you know, aspirations.

904
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:57.280
<v Speaker 3>We Trump said today or yesterday, we have to keep

905
00:49:57.400 --> 00:49:58.119
<v Speaker 3>arm in Ukraine.

906
00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:02.239
<v Speaker 5>They have to protect themselves. So he's on board, and

907
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:05.159
<v Speaker 5>Putin doesn't want to stop. It's bad.

908
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:10.440
<v Speaker 2>You know. I definitely believe in President Trump's decisions. You know,

909
00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:13.159
<v Speaker 2>I said that since he won, I said, I hope

910
00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:15.280
<v Speaker 2>he's going to do something, not only for America, for

911
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:18.440
<v Speaker 2>my mother and two. So I was kind of believing

912
00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:22.239
<v Speaker 2>in him twice the only one thing where he didn't

913
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:25.840
<v Speaker 2>expect it to be so because he's thought Putting his talkative.

914
00:50:26.119 --> 00:50:29.639
<v Speaker 2>You can talk to Putting and his joke, his jerk

915
00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:33.960
<v Speaker 2>joke and everything. What is an idiot and the sick personality,

916
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:36.599
<v Speaker 2>So yeah's you how you can talk to a sick

917
00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:39.119
<v Speaker 2>person who is about to like you know, nobody knows

918
00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:41.960
<v Speaker 2>he's about to die. There was another version that his

919
00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:45.039
<v Speaker 2>dead already and this his operating.

920
00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:46.599
<v Speaker 5>I'm obsessed with. He might have clone.

921
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:51.119
<v Speaker 2>That's very who are traced to him because he's scared

922
00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:53.559
<v Speaker 2>to be shot and to be you know, like kidnapped

923
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:56.039
<v Speaker 2>or whatever go on to the trial. So we don't

924
00:50:56.079 --> 00:50:58.039
<v Speaker 2>even know with whom we deal is and who is

925
00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:01.719
<v Speaker 2>really like take take care of Russia and all those

926
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:05.239
<v Speaker 2>governmental decisions and you see they are like they look

927
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:09.079
<v Speaker 2>like they represent Soviet Union with Verans and the border

928
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:10.920
<v Speaker 2>and like, you know, any.

929
00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:13.199
<v Speaker 4>Was who is the guy that just got killed?

930
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:14.679
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

931
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Another one I don't know, probably know, but he was he.

932
00:51:18.079 --> 00:51:22.519
<v Speaker 1>Was fired by Putin and the day after he was

933
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:24.679
<v Speaker 1>fired he was murdered.

934
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:27.320
<v Speaker 5>Oh really, but we don't.

935
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:29.559
<v Speaker 4>You don't know who I'm talking about, Arena, I don't.

936
00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:31.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't know enough about it.

937
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Shame on me. I don't. My mother probably does because she's.

938
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:44.320
<v Speaker 3>All it was the minister a Russian minister found dead. Uh.

939
00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:47.000
<v Speaker 5>Fired Russian minister found dead in his car with a

940
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:53.000
<v Speaker 5>gunshot head. Uh name Roman Starovoid.

941
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't watch Russian news forever. I never was interested

942
00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:03.559
<v Speaker 2>because there are no news in this country. There's just manipulation.

943
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:08.000
<v Speaker 2>They live in prison. I don't want day.

944
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:09.480
<v Speaker 5>They don't want to look at the end of the day,

945
00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:12.000
<v Speaker 5>but they don't want us to know anything. We don't

946
00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:12.480
<v Speaker 5>know anything.

947
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:15.079
<v Speaker 4>Just you're never You're never gonna know anything, just like that.

948
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:18.880
<v Speaker 5>But Jeffrey Epstein, you know, yes, we all look, we

949
00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:19.800
<v Speaker 5>all feel.

950
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:22.760
<v Speaker 4>Don't go there.

951
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:24.559
<v Speaker 5>But it just drives me crazy.

952
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:27.840
<v Speaker 3>I want to like Patel and Bondi, And I said

953
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:30.320
<v Speaker 3>Bondi and Bongino I wasn't crazy about. But I didn't

954
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:33.400
<v Speaker 3>think cash buttels and bullshears. But now I just I

955
00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:35.679
<v Speaker 3>find it in saying that, oh, there's no less, there's nothing.

956
00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:39.519
<v Speaker 3>We forget it. You didn't do anything. Come on, guys,

957
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:40.480
<v Speaker 3>j you're.

958
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:43.719
<v Speaker 2>A bigger movies. How many serious we watched already sharing

959
00:52:43.880 --> 00:52:47.480
<v Speaker 2>together all of us. You know how they discovered, they

960
00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:50.679
<v Speaker 2>investigated after they find out that it came from the

961
00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:55.679
<v Speaker 2>same person who was actually ordering the investigation, and after okay,

962
00:52:55.719 --> 00:52:57.079
<v Speaker 2>what do we have to do? We have to drop

963
00:52:57.119 --> 00:52:59.679
<v Speaker 2>it off because somewhere else, on the other part of

964
00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:03.559
<v Speaker 2>the play, it's going to be an influence. That's why

965
00:53:03.599 --> 00:53:07.159
<v Speaker 2>I said, political is uh like affairs. They are dirty.

966
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:09.519
<v Speaker 2>They have to be. Maybe they don't want to be,

967
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:10.280
<v Speaker 2>they have to be.

968
00:53:11.519 --> 00:53:12.440
<v Speaker 5>It's a filthy game.

969
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:17.679
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, Okay, can we go for something a colic.

970
00:53:18.159 --> 00:53:22.119
<v Speaker 1>So you're you're on the the list is the You're

971
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:24.880
<v Speaker 1>not on the he didn't he was murdered thing?

972
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:26.559
<v Speaker 4>Are you still on the he was murdered thing?

973
00:53:26.719 --> 00:53:30.719
<v Speaker 5>I I do believe that with a minute missing from

974
00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:33.400
<v Speaker 5>that tape. You can see there's a minute missing. I

975
00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:35.119
<v Speaker 5>don't like the fact that Michael bidden.

976
00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:37.119
<v Speaker 3>I love that Michael Biden said the bones that were

977
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:40.159
<v Speaker 3>broken in his neck more resemble a strangulation, not a hanging.

978
00:53:41.320 --> 00:53:46.519
<v Speaker 4>No, this guy, Michael Michael Boden is a for higher crook.

979
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:50.119
<v Speaker 4>He's a fucking liar. He's guys, guys.

980
00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:55.320
<v Speaker 3>He sat over how many hundreds, hundreds, and.

981
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:57.639
<v Speaker 1>He's for hire to say whatever you need him to say.

982
00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:00.679
<v Speaker 1>Look at the Look at the Derek Chauvin a case

983
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:01.360
<v Speaker 1>with him.

984
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:04.480
<v Speaker 5>But Chauvin wasn't killed by me on his neck.

985
00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:06.039
<v Speaker 4>Chauvin didn't kill anyone.

986
00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:09.519
<v Speaker 3>He was Shelvin didn't kill Saint George Floyd with me

987
00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:12.880
<v Speaker 3>on his neck, was on his upper back.

988
00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Boden said, he still puts pressure on You're experts said,

989
00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:16.920
<v Speaker 1>he did.

990
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:18.559
<v Speaker 5>Well, look at I can't.

991
00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:22.039
<v Speaker 1>He'll say whatever anybody pays him to say.

992
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:23.840
<v Speaker 4>Disregard anything that guy said.

993
00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:26.519
<v Speaker 5>I don't believe Evert was killed himself. I just I

994
00:54:26.559 --> 00:54:29.360
<v Speaker 5>don't believe. I want to know why the cameras around,

995
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:31.079
<v Speaker 5>and what there's a minute missing, and why the guards

996
00:54:31.079 --> 00:54:33.519
<v Speaker 5>were sleeping. Look at man, if it smells like shit,

997
00:54:33.559 --> 00:54:35.960
<v Speaker 5>it's ship. That's just too many, just too many.

998
00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:42.599
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'll have I'll pull the episode and and have

999
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:47.039
<v Speaker 1>you listen to the John Ziggler taking apart every every

1000
00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:47.719
<v Speaker 1>bit of this thing.

1001
00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:48.760
<v Speaker 5>Let's not let's not forget.

1002
00:54:48.840 --> 00:54:51.159
<v Speaker 3>John Zigglers said Donald Trump cannot win, and I said

1003
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:53.280
<v Speaker 3>he's gonna win by a landslide, and I fucking was right,

1004
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:54.800
<v Speaker 3>So Sicki's not always right.

1005
00:54:55.360 --> 00:54:57.320
<v Speaker 5>He's a great reporter, but it's not always right. Not

1006
00:54:57.400 --> 00:54:58.119
<v Speaker 5>everybody is.

1007
00:54:58.719 --> 00:54:59.559
<v Speaker 4>What what you're that?

1008
00:54:59.719 --> 00:54:59.960
<v Speaker 5>You mean?

1009
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:04.159
<v Speaker 4>Twenty sixteen, I said Trump's gonna win by lance? Yeah, no,

1010
00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:05.519
<v Speaker 4>look you were no one.

1011
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:09.199
<v Speaker 3>Sigla, Jay Zigla's done more of this than you can imagine.

1012
00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:13.960
<v Speaker 4>Got it ninety ninety something percent, you know what, the odds.

1013
00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:14.800
<v Speaker 5>Were a great report.

1014
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:18.559
<v Speaker 4>He pulled it unbelievable inside straight and won a.

1015
00:55:18.559 --> 00:55:21.400
<v Speaker 3>Great But anyhow, I just think Epstein has there's just

1016
00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:25.039
<v Speaker 3>too many bad things surrounding him. Maybe I'm wrong, but

1017
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:27.320
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people feel like I do. It's just

1018
00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:30.559
<v Speaker 3>very strange this guy's gone. But anyhow, that's a whole

1019
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:31.599
<v Speaker 3>two shows in a row.

1020
00:55:31.679 --> 00:55:32.400
<v Speaker 5>Forget about that.

1021
00:55:33.039 --> 00:55:35.920
<v Speaker 4>Okay, let's this is like the third week in a row.

1022
00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:38.440
<v Speaker 1>I get, I prepare like five topics and we get

1023
00:55:38.440 --> 00:55:44.880
<v Speaker 1>to like two of where she invites thanks for listening,

1024
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:47.599
<v Speaker 1>and we will be back at you with episode thirty eight.

1025
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:49.119
<v Speaker 4>All right, thanks guys.

1026
00:55:49.880 --> 00:55:51.960
<v Speaker 5>Then that was weird.
