Speaker 1: Hey, hey, everybody, welcome back to Relationships is a Bitch.
Speaker 1: This is episode thirty seven. I am Mike here with
Speaker 1: aj Benza and our sense Arena Wood.
Speaker 2: Hey guys, hey, hey, everybody, what's happening.
Speaker 3: How was everybody's well? I mean, there's a lot of
Speaker 3: show we did. I'm losing track of the day.
Speaker 4: It was before the fourth of July. You can ask
Speaker 4: everybody how the fourth was?
Speaker 5: About the fourth? How was your fourth You guys went
Speaker 5: on the boat. What'd you do?
Speaker 4: We were all together. We went to the club.
Speaker 5: Oh nice, very nice.
Speaker 4: Wow, you didn't see all Kenny's videos posts?
Speaker 5: Didn't I didn't see anything. No, no, I didn't.
Speaker 2: They were very nice fireworks. It was kind of club celebration.
Speaker 2: There were tons of kids are out and we had
Speaker 2: two kids on the table. We've been five of us
Speaker 2: with the mother, Kenny's mother, and two couples. And it
Speaker 2: was myful.
Speaker 4: It was really really nice.
Speaker 5: That's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we uh DoD had I think six desserts, six
Speaker 1: or seven desserts.
Speaker 4: Again, we all had.
Speaker 2: Until now I can't get rid of those ponds and
Speaker 2: all eating.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: Since I landed in the United States three years ago,
Speaker 2: we usually did celebrate in Jersey in Manusquam. Katty had
Speaker 2: some Italian friends over there. They are based in New York,
Speaker 2: but they have Italian roots like you guys, and they
Speaker 2: very nice family with a bunch of kids, and always
Speaker 2: it's a huge celebration in the yard with barbecue, with
Speaker 2: NonStop drinking, and a lot of people are coming over
Speaker 2: from different states. So this year I've been missed out
Speaker 2: because we're doing way too many trips to New York
Speaker 2: which are random for different reasons. So we couldn't squizz
Speaker 2: in and do one more for this one day celebration,
Speaker 2: and we decided to stay here. But I think we
Speaker 2: did great because we spent time together. It was different
Speaker 2: in a fy, organ nice way. It was nice, you know, club.
Speaker 5: Very nice. I got.
Speaker 3: I got nostalgic because all I remember was Fourth of
Speaker 3: julys on Long Island, where my father's birthday was the fifth,
Speaker 3: So the fourth of July was always a big party, weekend, fishing, clamming,
Speaker 3: stick ball.
Speaker 5: It was just you know, the pool, the music, the food.
Speaker 3: And I just stayed in with Rocco for but I
Speaker 3: didn't do anything, just chilled out home.
Speaker 5: What a difference. But I'm glad you guys did the
Speaker 5: big the big day. That's wonderful.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it was really nice.
Speaker 5: That's great.
Speaker 4: Did you ever do the yacht club dances? Yacht club
Speaker 4: bablon yacht club dance?
Speaker 5: Now we brought it.
Speaker 1: Was such a oxy moron to call that the yacht club.
Speaker 1: I think I think the biggest boat there was like
Speaker 1: a twenty two foot Boston whale.
Speaker 4: There was nobody there. I had a yacht.
Speaker 1: It was basically an old house, a pool, a room
Speaker 1: with a couple of ping pong tables, and then they
Speaker 1: had a nice dock that. There were a few people
Speaker 1: who had decent boats, but mostly you're you know, we
Speaker 1: were always bringing my nineteen foot Mako around.
Speaker 5: Make dock over there. I love that. I love that makeup.
Speaker 5: Uh No, you know we did.
Speaker 3: We did break into Southwood Home now the Southwood ho
Speaker 3: on the left shirt month.
Speaker 5: Sure, Me and me and Ronnie and Freddie broke into
Speaker 5: that through the roof and.
Speaker 4: Through the roof.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was like a I don't know how we
Speaker 3: heard about this. This is forty years ago, maybe forty
Speaker 3: five years ago. There was a way to get in
Speaker 3: from the roof and walk down these steps and get
Speaker 3: in the joint.
Speaker 5: Who knows. We just you know, we were kids just
Speaker 5: looking for fun and we found it. Just crazy shit. Oh,
Speaker 5: this is not Fourth of July related, It's just it's
Speaker 5: a general yacht club.
Speaker 1: Oh, I got you talking about clubs, I guess. But
Speaker 1: the Act Club always had like.
Speaker 4: A Fourth of July dance right right.
Speaker 1: And back, you know, beginning of junior high it was
Speaker 1: like the you know, one of the only times you'd
Speaker 1: be guaranteed that all the girls in the area. You
Speaker 1: go right and you know, your girlfriend, Sue was a
Speaker 1: stable at the h and so it was always nice
Speaker 1: to see her at those events.
Speaker 5: Of course, and uh, a bunch of them.
Speaker 4: I mean, we had some cute girls at the.
Speaker 5: At the at you know, you blew my mind last
Speaker 5: week with Amy Lapenna's name and Nina Riggio.
Speaker 3: I haven't thought of those names and so long, and
Speaker 3: now I can't. That's all I'm thinking about. Amy La
Speaker 3: Penna was so sexy. Gosh, man, I forgot about Nina
Speaker 3: with the red hair.
Speaker 5: Great great, great stuff?
Speaker 4: Am I responsible for you?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 4: Take care of yourself? A couple of times to high
Speaker 4: school fantasies this week.
Speaker 3: If if I saw a picture of Nina or Amy
Speaker 3: in that in that state in high school, or Jennifer
Speaker 3: Jennifer so.
Speaker 1: A so was the high school junior bikini pick would
Speaker 1: have done for you this week.
Speaker 3: It sounds gross, but when I was younger, the first
Speaker 3: girl I ever so, I wasn't like, I'm sorry for
Speaker 3: saying this.
Speaker 5: I wasn't a big masturbator, Like I just didn't do that.
Speaker 3: I had girlfriends here and there, and at some point
Speaker 3: I discovered it and it was over.
Speaker 4: At some point. Yeah, at some point in at age
Speaker 4: eleven now, I would read.
Speaker 3: The magazines on the floor of the bathroom penthouse for
Speaker 3: him and read those stories about long haul truckers meeting
Speaker 3: a hit shiker. You know, I wrote those out of college.
Speaker 3: I used to be one of the guys who wrote
Speaker 3: those stories. But no, I Jennifer Cutey was the first chick.
Speaker 5: Who was a year younger than Nuns in high school
Speaker 5: that I thought of her one night and the.
Speaker 3: Blankets hit me a certain way, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is interesting, this feels really good.
Speaker 5: I guess I'll keep doing this movement.
Speaker 4: And there we go, Wow, yeah, there you have it, folks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, when I listened to stories like this,
Speaker 2: I understand. It's know, how powerful is imagination living in
Speaker 2: the illusion. If you think about it, when we get
Speaker 2: acquainted with a new person, no matter what what age
Speaker 2: and gender you are in uh, you have a first
Speaker 2: impression about the person, and sometimes we give the better
Speaker 2: qualities people deserve, and we create an image of the
Speaker 2: person in our head and we have fallen in love
Speaker 2: and we get attracted and sexually and emotionally and get
Speaker 2: sensitive about those people and the same here. You know,
Speaker 2: imagination is so powerful. They say that that all life
Speaker 2: has illusion. If you think about that, about the reflection
Speaker 2: of the eye and how physically it's working for us.
Speaker 2: So it's all we see. It's already the post. It's
Speaker 2: never the present.
Speaker 5: You know, it's amazing. And it's just a snapshot of
Speaker 5: Jennifer Cuti at the front of the high school by
Speaker 5: the girls gym and the sun behind her, and her
Speaker 5: eyes were so blue.
Speaker 4: Grown my god.
Speaker 5: I mean that's the only vision I have. I never like, wow,
Speaker 5: you know that's the version she was right.
Speaker 1: Now, this is big, This is a this is big,
Speaker 1: This is a worldwide announcement. AJ doing his first his
Speaker 1: first high school whacking to a picture of Jennifer Cutie
Speaker 1: in front of the Ghost.
Speaker 5: I'll go I'll go forward.
Speaker 3: She had a light tan sweater on and this is
Speaker 3: what got me ready. She had a jacket that said
Speaker 3: Hunker Mountains. She skied hunked it right, But her nipples
Speaker 3: came through the tan sweater and that destroyed me.
Speaker 5: That destroyed me. Killer. Can't see that.
Speaker 1: I can't see it, Okay, I can't. I'm drawing a blank.
Speaker 1: I can't come up with the high school girl. You know,
Speaker 1: I had to say I had the Farah poster, and.
Speaker 5: I had I did that too.
Speaker 4: Sure, I love that Farah post.
Speaker 1: That's the all time because she looked innocent at the
Speaker 1: same time.
Speaker 5: She made you, you.
Speaker 1: Know, uh like maybe the most she She was so beautiful, yeah,
Speaker 1: so photogenic, and just that poster did it for That's
Speaker 1: got to be the top poster of all time.
Speaker 3: Right, he has the orange the orange one piece. And
Speaker 3: if you remember, her hair spelled S E X the
Speaker 3: way her curls were laying. If you looked at it
Speaker 3: and said sex on her post, you could see the.
Speaker 5: S and the X and her hair.
Speaker 3: Really, her manager at the time was a friend of
Speaker 3: mine when I was a giant, when I was a
Speaker 3: columnist and old Jewish guy who was a master at marketing,
Speaker 3: and he came up with that, and then then he
Speaker 3: wanted me to date his girlfriend.
Speaker 5: It got so weird.
Speaker 3: He was much older than I was, and I did
Speaker 3: end up dating his girlfriend. He was very good at
Speaker 3: finding beautiful girls and taking them to the next level
Speaker 3: with their beauty with posters and uh co starring and shit.
Speaker 5: That was Jay's Uh, that was Jay's thing. He was
Speaker 5: great at that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so looking forward to the Superman movie coming out.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I just thought I never go
Speaker 1: to superhero movies. I don't watch any of that Marvel shit.
Speaker 1: But it's been a long time since it was a
Speaker 1: Superman thing. This time they're gonna get it right. Blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. And then they woke the whole thing out.
Speaker 4: Why the hell would they do that?
Speaker 5: Well, I know they didn't. I didn't like the guy
Speaker 5: they chose to be Superman.
Speaker 3: That was a terrible I saw the commercial and I said,
Speaker 3: this movie is not gonna do shit. Terrible, terrible casting.
Speaker 3: Everything nowadays get gets snipped, gets neutered. It's just the
Speaker 3: way a lot of studios are. They're being overly protective
Speaker 3: of people's feelings, and political correctness is still something that
Speaker 3: is out there. Every different type of person is recognized
Speaker 3: in writers' rooms, trans people, gay people, black people.
Speaker 5: It just it's not the way Hollywood used to be.
Speaker 1: Does nobody get nobody sees the ratings of Taylor Sheridan shows.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't understand what the heck happens. It's
Speaker 1: like you have a good season of ted Lasso and
Speaker 1: then you have to freaking ruin it, loook the whole
Speaker 1: thing out.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I started watching this golf series called Stick.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: First episode really promising, boom. Second episode, okay, boom. Third
Speaker 1: episode He's got to meet a girl. The kid meets
Speaker 1: a girl and she's out of freaking control. Woke, crazy,
Speaker 1: ruin the whole freaking show. Never watched another minute of it.
Speaker 4: While we do that, I don't.
Speaker 3: Because I know a couple of showrunners, big guys Michael
Speaker 3: Sure who did Boxing Wreck and The Office, and major
Speaker 3: major writer showrunner another guy named Dj Nash. I coached
Speaker 3: their sons. They told me, you have to have representation
Speaker 3: in writers' rooms, even if they contribute nothing. These are
Speaker 3: people making big money who just happen to be from
Speaker 3: the margins of life, ens, L, G, B t Q, whatever,
Speaker 3: from Africa, from and they all have to be a
Speaker 3: part of the package of how that show goes out
Speaker 3: and how it's looked upon and in Hollywood.
Speaker 5: And it's it's not dead yet, it's not dead. It's
Speaker 5: gonna happen for a while.
Speaker 1: I'm launching a series now where I think they do
Speaker 1: it really well.
Speaker 4: Like There's it's called Hacks. It's been out for a while.
Speaker 4: Hats is great.
Speaker 1: But you have one of the lead characters, I don't
Speaker 1: know the actress's name, where she's bisexual and that theme
Speaker 1: runs through, but not in a lecturing you about your
Speaker 1: life way. I mean, she's very likable as a character,
Speaker 1: even though seldom do I end up liking, you know,
Speaker 1: characters that are are coming from that direction.
Speaker 4: But she she's really good whatever her name is. And
Speaker 4: then it's Gene Smart. I think it is.
Speaker 5: Smart's who's great too.
Speaker 4: But that's a great series.
Speaker 3: It's a great series. But they're doing this constantly, and
Speaker 3: you know, it turns me off. I don't like, you know,
Speaker 3: every single movie or show I watch has a.
Speaker 5: Angry black female.
Speaker 3: As a top cop. It's like, can we stop this.
Speaker 3: Every black chair's got to be the tough detective that
Speaker 3: shuts the guys up and come on, it's not real life.
Speaker 3: But that's where we're.
Speaker 5: At right now. I don't know. I don't see a
Speaker 5: change in sight.
Speaker 4: For a long time, I missed the good old days.
Speaker 1: I would have loved a real Superman movie. But he's
Speaker 1: not even this guy the actor refused to say in
Speaker 1: the American way or something.
Speaker 5: Yeah. And also the director, James Gunn, who used to
Speaker 5: have pedophile quotes on Twitter years back. It was like
Speaker 5: we called him. It was awful the shit he was saying.
Speaker 3: He said, the New Superman is about the new immigrants
Speaker 3: coming into America.
Speaker 5: I can't take it.
Speaker 3: I can't take it. That's really what Superman's about. That's
Speaker 3: what ruined the movie with ruined Captain America. It ruins
Speaker 3: every superhero movie because they go too much politically correct
Speaker 3: and it blows apart.
Speaker 1: So he he is an illegal immigrant from Krypton.
Speaker 4: Is that that's what it is?
Speaker 5: I guess that would I guess.
Speaker 1: The intergalactic border patrol didn't didn't get him at Earth's
Speaker 1: atmosphere and and block them out.
Speaker 5: But I'll tell you is I tell you speaking of ice.
Speaker 3: I know you guys don't see it as often as
Speaker 3: I do here, but it's dip dick cracking down in
Speaker 3: l A.
Speaker 5: It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Well, I saw that craziness with your lovely Mayor in
Speaker 1: the middle of.
Speaker 4: It, and.
Speaker 1: It was bound bound to happen with all the crazy
Speaker 1: rhetoric that's out there. But anyway, well, let's uh, let's
Speaker 1: look at my topics for for this week and see
Speaker 1: if there's some fun there. Let's go to the relationship
Speaker 1: that I think has probably been the top relationship of
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four twenty twenty five time period, which
Speaker 1: is the bromance turned non romance between Elon Musk and
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, the one time co presidents, as I still
Speaker 1: love to call them. It's gone to a different place. So,
Speaker 1: you know, Elon's been really critical of the Big Beautiful
Speaker 1: Bill since the onset.
Speaker 4: I mean he was.
Speaker 1: It's not like there was a period where he was
Speaker 1: heavily supportive of it, but he's been critical.
Speaker 4: But he ratcheted up that criticism.
Speaker 1: As we sort of got to that July fourth deadline
Speaker 1: that that Trump had put out there, and he's now
Speaker 1: saying that he's going to create a third political party,
Speaker 1: the America Party.
Speaker 5: Oh god.
Speaker 1: So the guy who once declared a love for Trump
Speaker 1: as deep as quote one heterosexual man can have for
Speaker 1: another has lost that loving feeling in a very deep way.
Speaker 1: He's now claiming that the policies of Trump will lead
Speaker 1: the country to bankruptcy.
Speaker 4: And then Trump put out I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like an eight hundred word post on Truth's social
Speaker 1: where I just read a little bit of it. I'm
Speaker 1: sad to watch Elon go completely quote off the rails,
Speaker 1: essentially becoming an all caps train wreck over the past
Speaker 1: five weeks. He even wants to start a third political party,
Speaker 1: despite the fact that they have never succeeded in the US.
Speaker 1: The one thing third parties are good for is the
Speaker 1: creation of complete and total capitalized disruption and chaos, and
Speaker 1: we have enough of that with the radical left Democrats
Speaker 1: who have lost their confidence.
Speaker 4: In their minds.
Speaker 1: Republicans, on the other hand, are a smooth running machine
Speaker 1: that just passed the biggest bill of its kind and
Speaker 1: the history of our country. It's a great bill, but
Speaker 1: unfortunately for Elon it eliminates the ridiculous electric vehicle mandate.
Speaker 1: So he's putting Elon's position on the on the big
Speaker 1: beautiful bill, on the electric vehicle mandates, and that's really
Speaker 1: not what has set.
Speaker 4: Helon off in the direction he's gone in.
Speaker 1: But any thoughts on the bromance gone bad, guys, third party.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna let Arena do this, But I want to
Speaker 5: say one thing real quick.
Speaker 3: I did predict months ago there was going to be
Speaker 3: a fight between these two and they wouldn't get along anymore.
Speaker 3: I know Trump too well, it's just the way he
Speaker 3: is and Elon he did kind of walk his statements
Speaker 3: back a couple of weeks ago, and now this new
Speaker 3: bullshit with a third party.
Speaker 5: I learned a lesson.
Speaker 3: You can't heckle a comic when he's on stage with
Speaker 3: the microphone because they always win. In the same way,
Speaker 3: you can't keep heckling the president who leads the free world.
Speaker 3: You're not going to beat Trump right now where he's at.
Speaker 3: So Elon is becoming a cranky baby. But Trump's going
Speaker 3: to win this war. But Arena, you tell me what
Speaker 3: you think about the relationship finished two men.
Speaker 2: You know I told you before about creating an image
Speaker 2: of the person after the first impression, you probably have
Speaker 2: seen a lot of couples when people meet and they say, Wow,
Speaker 2: she's exactly like me. She's my best friend, she's my past. See,
Speaker 2: we have so much in comma and after these two
Speaker 2: we just never talk again and hit each other great classics.
Speaker 2: So here kind of that type of thing, because don't
Speaker 2: become illusional about persons, so you don't have to become
Speaker 2: delusional afterwards. It was a very quick merriage. I know
Speaker 2: it should have happened so Trump would have won, and
Speaker 2: he did, and it was very empowering for him to
Speaker 2: get Illn Musk on his side. And I'm not would
Speaker 2: say who is right who's wrong, Like I'm nobody. I'm
Speaker 2: not in financial or political field to judge and none
Speaker 2: of those guys. But I feel like a little fortune
Speaker 2: teller because as Uaj said that it's going to be
Speaker 2: a fight one day in disagreement, I've said a couple
Speaker 2: of podcasts ago or maybe the last one that's going
Speaker 2: to be a new party, Elon Musk will try to
Speaker 2: do it. And now he is doing that. And I
Speaker 2: have to tell you, as far as I see American people,
Speaker 2: they are very dedicated and determined to everything what have
Speaker 2: been created for centuries, whether it rituals, I don't know,
Speaker 2: tradition or food. They're very consistent, consistent, excuse me about
Speaker 2: their choices. So I have no idea if the third
Speaker 2: party would survive in this country. But I do believe
Speaker 2: that American needed a little change. I always have been
Speaker 2: speaking about the independent about something. I'm independent. I think
Speaker 2: Mike you did that. You said a couple of times
Speaker 2: I'm independent. That I would probably call myself closer to
Speaker 2: Republicans one hundred percent, like because I respect a lot
Speaker 2: of a lot of a lot of things about their
Speaker 2: choice making. But there are a couple of things that
Speaker 2: I have my own opinion about that. But they're still
Speaker 2: in process, so maybe they will get there. So that's
Speaker 2: why I would say that I'm independent, much closer to
Speaker 2: Republicans if I had a choice to vote. But there
Speaker 2: is no such a party as independent. You can feel independent,
Speaker 2: but you can vote for that correct. It's you go
Speaker 2: left or you go right, and truth is always in
Speaker 2: the middle. We know it in life. So I have
Speaker 2: no idea what Elan Musk will be doing right now.
Speaker 2: I would say one thing Trump, whatever he is doing
Speaker 2: with any country of the world, with every inside and
Speaker 2: outside out action. It's always for the benefit of American
Speaker 2: American people. Meanwhile, Ilan Musk has a globe. He's already
Speaker 2: traveling to Mars. He's already building this train for two
Speaker 2: hours to get to London or even less. So he
Speaker 2: is kind of president of the globe because the That's
Speaker 2: why I think they had a disagreement of this big,
Speaker 2: beautiful bill, because they are too strong personalities. Plus Trump
Speaker 2: was thinking about America and cut off expenses and taxes
Speaker 2: and so on. Elon Musk was thinking about all to
Speaker 2: debt of United States, which all countries have. So I
Speaker 2: think he's thinking way too globally to represent just America.
Speaker 2: He should go on very international level. I don't know,
Speaker 2: like he lives here. So that's why he's taking care
Speaker 2: of America in his own way, the way he thinks
Speaker 2: it's the best for the country. But I'm just telling you,
Speaker 2: I think he has a very very global view on
Speaker 2: the world, not on America when he's based where he
Speaker 2: is based.
Speaker 5: Sorry, I agree with that.
Speaker 4: I think these two people.
Speaker 1: Don't understand the times, or maybe they understand too well
Speaker 1: just how many people.
Speaker 4: They reach with their words.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: With the following that Elon has on X, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions of
Speaker 1: views or listens to anything he posts. Trump will do
Speaker 1: it on truth Social, but then it gets picked up
Speaker 1: on X and it will get tens of millions or
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions. So there's nothing discreet about anything that
Speaker 1: they that they say. And there these two personalities who
Speaker 1: raise the volume to ridiculous levels.
Speaker 4: They both of them.
Speaker 1: Say things they don't mean, just like other volatable people
Speaker 1: do in relationships, and it raises the bar and raises
Speaker 1: the bar, and then you know, there's there's an explosion.
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't blame Musk for his frustration.
Speaker 1: I mean, here's a guy who, I mean gave up,
Speaker 1: walked away from so much every day that he has
Speaker 1: going on with his companies to try and help this country.
Speaker 1: He gave an unbelievable effort at at least showing the
Speaker 1: pathway towards saving half a trillion, three quarters of a trillion,
Speaker 1: maybe even a trillion.
Speaker 4: Dollars, but didn't realize that.
Speaker 1: Trump was really probably not serious about it from the
Speaker 1: get go, I mean, was only gonna let so much happen.
Speaker 1: Washington was only gonna let so much happen. There's just
Speaker 1: it is what it is. What it is, and you know,
Speaker 1: trying to to do something like get a balanced budget
Speaker 1: amendment passed or you know, something to finally shake because
Speaker 1: he's absolutely right, People like Thomas Massey and and Ram
Speaker 1: Paul and others are absolutely right that at some point
Speaker 1: somebody has to be brave enough to say, we can't
Speaker 1: continue down the path we're on. We can't continue with
Speaker 1: social security, we can't continue with with thirty plus million
Speaker 1: trillion dollars in debt.
Speaker 4: It's we got to cut the spending because you can't.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: Trump's plan here is he believes he's going to raise
Speaker 1: the revenue enough to impact the deficit. Look, he'll prove
Speaker 1: a shit ton of people wrong if that actually happens.
Speaker 1: And the independent people or groups that have looked at
Speaker 1: this bill have been pretty unanimous that it's going to increase,
Speaker 1: not decrease, the deficit.
Speaker 4: So but you know, it's such a game of compromise.
Speaker 1: And when you run the kind of companies that must runs,
Speaker 1: you're a dictator. I mean you are a dictator in
Speaker 1: those companies. It comes down to you. You're the controlling shareholder.
Speaker 1: In every one of those circumstances. If something's going to
Speaker 1: happen in those companies, it's because you said yes. And
Speaker 1: if it's something that's not going to happen, it's because
Speaker 1: you said no. And you are used to being a king.
Speaker 4: I mean, people like to.
Speaker 1: Use that terminology as it relates to Trump, but if
Speaker 1: you look at the two of them, the one who
Speaker 1: lives life more as a king is actually Musk because
Speaker 1: he's running companies and can make those kind of decisions.
Speaker 1: And so to come into a job and to find
Speaker 1: all of this fraud, all of this misuse of funds,
Speaker 1: everything that they were able to find, and then to
Speaker 1: not be able to take action on so much of it,
Speaker 1: and then to watch a bill get past that's going
Speaker 1: to increase.
Speaker 4: The overall deficit. It you know it. It drove a
Speaker 4: man so.
Speaker 3: Well that that's why right now Trump is the king
Speaker 3: and you're not going to get much done in terms
Speaker 3: of going against him and this third party shit. But
Speaker 3: you know, Elon Musk is a young guy. He's also
Speaker 3: once in a millennial millennium genius. Uh, He's certainly going
Speaker 3: to be around and and you know, get with the
Speaker 3: next several presidents to push his agenda.
Speaker 5: So in the long run, he's gonna win.
Speaker 3: But right now, with Trump holding the gavel and holding
Speaker 3: you know, America over his head, uh, Elon has to
Speaker 3: make his points and just you know, jabbing, well.
Speaker 1: Elon is going to appeal to a lot of people
Speaker 1: like me. If he actually really wanted to run to
Speaker 1: find people who are more or less socially liberal but
Speaker 1: fiscally conservative. That's kind of a lane that nobody's servicing
Speaker 1: right now. That is kind of looking for a home
Speaker 1: and and that's what he presents. But but to fragment
Speaker 1: the Trump vote and create a lane for the Democrats
Speaker 1: to drive through would would be so self defeating. He's
Speaker 1: got to know that, and people advising him have to
Speaker 1: know that, and so something has to give somewhere along.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna let a bunch of congressional
Speaker 1: seats go by the go by the wayside and hand
Speaker 1: him over to Democrats.
Speaker 3: And right, but we have to remember we have to
Speaker 3: remember too that if the Democrats wanted twenty twenty four,
Speaker 3: Elon's businesses would have been doomed. So it isn't like
Speaker 3: he made this partnership and friendship with Trump just because
Speaker 3: he's a good guy. The other side couldn't win or
Speaker 3: else Elan was gonna have a big, much bigger problems
Speaker 3: than he has now.
Speaker 5: So as I said, he's gonna be around for a
Speaker 5: long time.
Speaker 3: And this third party thing, I'm not sure, but I
Speaker 3: know the next the next administration he throws his his
Speaker 3: strength and trust behind, they're going to do a lot
Speaker 3: better than other people would.
Speaker 2: So may I give a little tougher about it. I
Speaker 2: totally think that no matter what which country you do,
Speaker 2: represent that political movement, any kind of movement, it's a
Speaker 2: dirty place to be. Why it's always be a trick
Speaker 2: in for that pops up a lot of things and
Speaker 2: facts are hidden, a lot of manipulation on very international level,
Speaker 2: and you have to do this or that. So to
Speaker 2: be a political guardian, it's going to be restricted to be.
Speaker 2: You have to do things that you have to do sometimes.
Speaker 2: I see Ellen Musk, I don't know. There are people,
Speaker 2: for example, like killers. They can't get married, and they
Speaker 2: can't get married because God doesn't want them to belong
Speaker 2: to one person. They want them to belong to the world.
Speaker 2: I don't know why Ill and Musk being genius one
Speaker 2: of the kind wants to be married to America and
Speaker 2: to political movement of United States. He's so up to me.
Speaker 2: He's so special. I didn't even want to know his
Speaker 2: personality because I only only wanted to know that Ila
Speaker 2: Musk did this, Ill Musk did that. He's interviewing people,
Speaker 2: he's spontaneous, he's doing innovations, he's flying to Mars. I
Speaker 2: love him like that. I want Elan Musk back. His
Speaker 2: whole is world. It's not America. He's exceptional, super talented,
Speaker 2: super gifted, and he's going down to politics. Why there
Speaker 2: would like because he was.
Speaker 1: He was so offended when he took over Twitter. He's
Speaker 1: so offended at what had gone on inside of Twitter,
Speaker 1: the impact Twitter had had on the twenty twenty election,
Speaker 1: et cetera, that it drove him.
Speaker 2: So he feels used and he wants to put I.
Speaker 3: Don't think it's I don't I still think you have
Speaker 3: to know his businesses would have done worse if the
Speaker 3: Democrats won in twenty twenty four. So he did this
Speaker 3: to survive himself. It wasn't like he just threw a
Speaker 3: support to John is a good guy.
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I don't think so I mean,
Speaker 4: look a little bit better, a little bit worse. His businesses,
Speaker 4: none of it mattered.
Speaker 1: His grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren have more money than they
Speaker 1: well be able to spend.
Speaker 4: And that's just not it.
Speaker 1: I believe he's incredibly principled to the point.
Speaker 4: Where, uh, you know, his sort of his his.
Speaker 1: Principle and his aspergers or whatever you want to call
Speaker 1: his condiction, those things combined to where he he becomes
Speaker 1: just so driven and singular in his effort that this
Speaker 1: is all he's offended. He's offended by what has happened
Speaker 1: here because he gave so much to us.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not saying he's right or wrong.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that's you know what I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: get I didn't understand what you said there. Fact he does.
Speaker 1: He does feel us for.
Speaker 2: Sure, absolutely. And I tell you as a person because
Speaker 2: my uncle was not that level but politician in Ukraine
Speaker 2: into parliament one or four hundred and fifty people like
Speaker 2: who's part of the rulers of the country. And I
Speaker 2: have to tell you he was poisoned. It was a
Speaker 2: criminal murder. And that's why I'm telling you I don't
Speaker 2: know why sad this genius, extreme talent, one of the kind.
Speaker 2: We don't have them a lot and enough in this world.
Speaker 2: He's moving the world, you know, with unbelievable speed to
Speaker 2: the stars. Why he is going on the level of
Speaker 2: politics which is always dirty and manipulity.
Speaker 4: Because he wanted to help and he thought he was uniquely.
Speaker 2: Positioned, not before before what he wanted. I know what
Speaker 2: he wanted. Now he has to pass on it. And
Speaker 2: I believe that American needs refreshment, okay, and not only
Speaker 2: left on right. And I told you two podcasts ago
Speaker 2: that he will do it, you will, right.
Speaker 4: I was right.
Speaker 2: It's a woman's intuition. But I have to tell you
Speaker 2: because he's so unbelievable with his thirteen ideas, that's his
Speaker 2: place the world, not one country.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we'll see if if this third party takes
Speaker 3: off and it's really serious, then the midterms are going
Speaker 3: to be very interesting because you're going to take away
Speaker 3: votes and uh, you know, a lot's gonna be hanging
Speaker 3: in the balance.
Speaker 2: All the world depends from America anyway. Maybe that's his
Speaker 2: way to influence. The world started from United States.
Speaker 1: Not a bad idea, well, wild, I don't think he'll,
Speaker 1: you know, bite his nose off to spite his face.
Speaker 1: I think he'll there'll be some sort of channeling of
Speaker 1: whatever this ends up being to where it's not going
Speaker 1: to damage the Republicans, who he certainly sees as much
Speaker 1: more viable for the country than than the other side,
Speaker 1: even though he sees the uniparty, if you will, right, right, right,
Speaker 1: let's let's turn to this that we haven't been able
Speaker 1: to probably turn away from. I know, I haven't this
Speaker 1: tragedy in Texas and then everything that's sort of grown
Speaker 1: out of that, the stuff that's beautiful and amazing and
Speaker 1: the stuff that's disgusting and political and and everything like that.
Speaker 4: But we're just such a freak thing. And you to me.
Speaker 1: When I looked at the topography there, which I've heard
Speaker 1: of Texas Hill Country, I never really spent. I've been
Speaker 1: to San Antonio a bunch of times. I've been to Austin,
Speaker 1: and I know it's kind of in between there and
Speaker 1: just north of the.
Speaker 4: But I've never been through it.
Speaker 1: These hills have like fifteen hundred to three thousand foot
Speaker 1: sort of elevations, so there are many mountains and that
Speaker 1: area that got hit here sort of if you think
Speaker 1: of the mountains as like a u and there being.
Speaker 4: A flat bottom to the you all this water. It's
Speaker 4: like the camp was at the bottom of a drain.
Speaker 1: It just all this water just came in, flooted down
Speaker 1: these hills, right into this catch basin, right where this
Speaker 1: camp stood, and.
Speaker 4: I mean three feet of rock. But but just.
Speaker 1: The timing of it, four o'clock in the morning, the
Speaker 1: tar the rain could have could have focused ten miles
Speaker 1: in another direction. And it's no big I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a perfect storm of storms.
Speaker 4: If you will. And yeah, and just there's nothing worse
Speaker 4: than seeing.
Speaker 5: Kids, families slept away. I can't. I can't say.
Speaker 3: You know, the great Catherine Stewart, my longtime listener, lives
Speaker 3: not far from there. She knows people who have died
Speaker 3: and stuff and friends with people who died.
Speaker 5: Uh, I can't you know.
Speaker 3: Look, we talked about Katrina with with your buddies in
Speaker 3: Louisiana last year.
Speaker 5: A couple of years ago. Did did the fact that
Speaker 5: the water gets so high, so fat.
Speaker 3: Twenty two feet in Texas, twenty two feet in a
Speaker 3: matter of hours.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable, but well got to thirty thirty thirty really Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's hard to keep reading it because of all the tragedy.
Speaker 3: But there's always happens, whether it's.
Speaker 5: Katrina or Sandy or any disaster.
Speaker 3: North Carolina politics, finger pointing, where's FEMA?
Speaker 5: What did you do?
Speaker 3: The trump suck a lot of the dough, suck a
Speaker 3: lot of employees out and make it different for the
Speaker 3: alarms to go off and people be told. I don't
Speaker 3: think so, because I heard that two days before they
Speaker 3: were warned about a possible flood. Maybe a lot of
Speaker 3: people don't like to leave. People just we'll be okay,
Speaker 3: we've been through this before. We'll be all right. We
Speaker 3: see it all the time, but this is so sad.
Speaker 3: But it's trumpet fault. It's dose at fault.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's like I think the United States,
Speaker 2: it's as just say Snickele zone. It's geographically, you know,
Speaker 2: there are so many trials unexpectedly and it's a huge country.
Speaker 2: And I would tell you that when somebody is leaving
Speaker 2: this planet, you usually think about God and you think, oh,
Speaker 2: he was taking this person for a reason, for good
Speaker 2: for bad, and you have lots of thirds. I know
Speaker 2: that some people don't love to leave their roots because
Speaker 2: that's what happened in was my citizenship, not citizenship with
Speaker 2: citizens of Ukraine. A lot of people could leave Ukraine,
Speaker 2: but they still don't. So people here are very loyal
Speaker 2: to their territories and origin as well. But I would
Speaker 2: probably hear on this episode speak more about how to
Speaker 2: deal with it, because you know how many people lost
Speaker 2: their children, for example, and how you overcome the grief
Speaker 2: because it's almost impossible. I'll give you another example, which
Speaker 2: was Kenny's friend guys from Cigar Lounges too, like great guys.
Speaker 2: Actually they lost two sons. And when you think about this,
Speaker 2: what happened in Texas, because that's a massive thing that
Speaker 2: nature created, and there were kind of death, very very
Speaker 2: strange test. One guy he fell on the bottom on
Speaker 2: the swamp or he was going with a dog and
Speaker 2: it was a bad weather. So one person death and
Speaker 2: the other guy had a very unexpected and extreme death
Speaker 2: as well. And you never know, because death is the death.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter it's aircraft, its flows, floats in Texas
Speaker 2: or what happened in California, or it's Katrina hurricane. I
Speaker 2: think that it's very difficult for people to like to
Speaker 2: live after people who stayed alive. Because if you think
Speaker 2: about this, what is trauma? It's always personalized because you
Speaker 2: think that your grief is the worst because it touches
Speaker 2: you and let's say, worried somewhere else, but here, I
Speaker 2: lost my brother or father. That's personal, that's about me,
Speaker 2: and it looks bigger than anything else on the planet.
Speaker 2: It's always shocking or unexpected, and it's always you know, traumatized.
Speaker 2: It's painful for you and how you live after. Because
Speaker 2: people first think they do they deny it. They think, oh, wow,
Speaker 2: it's not happened. Maybe this person is alive. Because if
Speaker 2: you think, now, what's happening to the mother's who look
Speaker 2: for the kids? You know your parents like and it's horrible,
Speaker 2: it's the worst. But after they feel a lot of anger.
Speaker 2: Why why am I child? Yeah? The other thing people
Speaker 2: start to think, what if what if we left on
Speaker 2: vacation into Hawaii? What if we went our birthday or
Speaker 2: some party celebration in New York? What if you know,
Speaker 2: what if I left here? In that signal that you
Speaker 2: should leave, And then after it starts kind of guiltless
Speaker 2: depression and the worst thing that acceptance. It's far away,
Speaker 2: so I'm sorry for the souls for a gun because
Speaker 2: loss is a loss, but I've been most sorry for
Speaker 2: people who stayed because it's a painful life afterwards.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't imagine this.
Speaker 3: I do think there's some yan and yang to this,
Speaker 3: which is, you know, you think about all that the
Speaker 3: talk over the years of Texas at one point being
Speaker 3: Mexico and then we take it back blah blah blah,
Speaker 3: and now you've got all these ice agents everywhere getting.
Speaker 5: Rid of Mexicans and Central Americans. And if you think
Speaker 5: about the you know, the Guadalupe means the river of
Speaker 5: the Wolf. It's a very strong, strong river, and Guadaloupe
Speaker 5: in Spanish it represents resistance against oppression. Isn't that poetic
Speaker 5: about all the stuff.
Speaker 3: They're going through now, these Central Americans and then this
Speaker 3: river overflows in America and kills somebody.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's a good thing, but it's almos.
Speaker 5: It gives me chills.
Speaker 3: It's like, what bigger, what bigger entity is listening and
Speaker 3: watching all this stuff that's going on. Well, you've got
Speaker 3: boxers like Julio Caesars, shovels, they're just sport getting arrested
Speaker 3: and holed out of America the other day.
Speaker 5: It's crazy, what's going on. There's a building around the
Speaker 5: corner that old.
Speaker 3: I guess they're all eagles because the buildings stopped being
Speaker 3: put up. No one on the site anymore. It's like
Speaker 3: six stories high, an apartment building and it just stopped.
Speaker 3: It's wild, what's happening.
Speaker 2: The second favorite state. I love Texas.
Speaker 3: Yeah I've not been there enough, but I want to
Speaker 3: love it. I love Texas people and what they stand for.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just.
Speaker 1: I know what I would be doing if God forbid,
Speaker 1: what do you do lost a child that way?
Speaker 4: I would be.
Speaker 1: Obsessed with just hoping it was immediate, that they didn't
Speaker 1: know it was coming, they didn't feel anything. It was
Speaker 1: over in a millisecond and that's it. But I'd be
Speaker 1: having nightmares about them going through some horribly traumatic experience
Speaker 1: and having a painful death. And I mean that would
Speaker 1: drive that would just drive me crazy. I see these
Speaker 1: the family from Dallas that has the two just beautiful.
Speaker 4: Little girls, yeah eight years old.
Speaker 1: And the grace with which that family's handling everything, it's
Speaker 1: it's amazing and the strength is showing early. But you know,
Speaker 1: been around a lot of people right after tragedy and
Speaker 1: the grief doesn't kick in because the supports systems all around,
Speaker 1: friends and family are all around you. It's in the news,
Speaker 1: there's there are funerals to attend, there's stuff to prepare.
Speaker 4: There's all of that noise around it.
Speaker 1: And then there's going to be when things get quiet
Speaker 1: and you're supposed to move on with life and you
Speaker 1: can't move on because there's just this huge hole in
Speaker 1: your heart.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: That when the last relative leaves your house because you
Speaker 3: lost a parent or what have you, and the food
Speaker 3: is already and the funeral is done, the wake is done,
Speaker 3: they're all gone and you just left with your family
Speaker 3: and you then that's when you break down, like, fuck,
Speaker 3: now we have to deal with this with no one
Speaker 3: around us.
Speaker 5: And look at there's a woman and I'm sure there's
Speaker 5: many who has carried twenty miles out of town. They
Speaker 5: found it clean into a tree. What.
Speaker 3: I don't know how long it takes to go twenty
Speaker 3: miles in a flooding river, But what the fuck was
Speaker 3: that like for this woman?
Speaker 1: I can't imagine. It's a brutal thing. And when when
Speaker 1: that kind.
Speaker 4: Of a tragedy happens.
Speaker 1: How anybody starts poking around the edges trying to find
Speaker 1: somebody to blame for political gain.
Speaker 4: Look it.
Speaker 1: The problem is it worked so well on Bush's second term,
Speaker 1: blaming the aftermath of Katrina all on him, the pictures
Speaker 1: of him flying above it in the in the helicopter
Speaker 1: and go to the ground and FEMA and and everything
Speaker 1: became his destroyed the rest the remainder of his presidency.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's where it was learned, how to do this,
Speaker 6: Take a tragedy and restage it for political gain and
Speaker 6: position happenings for political don't don't.
Speaker 5: Don't waste a big tragedy. There's a lot of ammo
Speaker 5: in that. Don't waste the tragedy. It's horrible.
Speaker 4: It's uh, it's sad.
Speaker 1: And anybody who believes that anything that happened is the
Speaker 1: fault of this administration or the prior administration or its folks,
Speaker 1: it's just a horrible, horrible tragedy.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: But then again, and I know you're right, these things converge,
Speaker 3: and you know, the impossible happens. But like in California,
Speaker 3: no water in the hydrants, you know, not sug not
Speaker 3: getting bullshit out of the forest, the dead wood. There
Speaker 3: were things that were done where California executives, administrators, politicians
Speaker 3: are guilty of being lax in those So, I mean,
Speaker 3: we're gonna find out.
Speaker 4: Sure now, I don't know if anybody's gonna be able to.
Speaker 1: Tell what would have happened had those things gone according
Speaker 1: to plan or or not happened, But there was going
Speaker 1: to be a tremendous amount of devastation.
Speaker 4: Regardless, you know so.
Speaker 1: And that's what happens is the right does it when
Speaker 1: tragedy happens when the left is in office, and the
Speaker 1: left does it when a tragedy happens when the right
Speaker 1: is in office.
Speaker 4: And it's just a horrible it's disgusting.
Speaker 5: I just let me correct me. From heat. This is
Speaker 5: caused from just heavy rainfall.
Speaker 3: That's what began. I mean, that's essentially what didn't rainfall
Speaker 3: in the mountains. The mountains become the water oall flows
Speaker 3: and it just destroys.
Speaker 1: A tremendous amount of rainfall coming in a very short
Speaker 1: period of time. It all only has one place to go.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and you know, look it happened in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty seven. It didn't happen to can't mystic happened to
Speaker 1: another killed a bus full of young girls, not this young.
Speaker 1: I mean they were teenagers trying to evacuate. But this
Speaker 1: is an area that is susceptible to these things. It's
Speaker 1: just like, look, when I moved to California, I had
Speaker 1: no frickin' idea what I was doing. In New York,
Speaker 1: we had hurricanes and in my lifetime, we never really
Speaker 1: had a super bad one. And you moved to California
Speaker 1: and you're not thinking about wildfires, and you're not thinking
Speaker 1: about mud slides, and you're not thinking about earthquakes, even
Speaker 1: though you're scared of them. You don't know that there's
Speaker 1: like a place to live and not live to avoid.
Speaker 1: We just so happened to find an area we liked
Speaker 1: and buy a house there that is actually pretty protected
Speaker 1: from shand area from everything but earthquakes. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't think there's a place to go that you're protected
Speaker 1: from earthquakes. But these people who live in where every
Speaker 1: Santa Ana event there, you know they're crossing themselves or
Speaker 1: you know, have the vulnerability to mud slides after the fires.
Speaker 3: It's you they should they should do like a long
Speaker 3: study on this area now to find out in the
Speaker 3: long run, how many divorces will there be, how many suicides,
Speaker 3: how many people stop working or just lose their their
Speaker 3: love of life for losing children. I'm not I don't
Speaker 3: want to read this survey. I don't want to read
Speaker 3: this down the road. But I can't imagine life just
Speaker 3: continuing when a child or two of yours gets just
Speaker 3: sucked away and gone. I can't imagine getting up, like
Speaker 3: you said, but everything's done and the papers are gone,
Speaker 3: and then what you go back to your fucking job.
Speaker 3: You go back to your cubicle, go back to the office.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine it.
Speaker 4: Hopefully the people around those families.
Speaker 1: Find a way to rally around those families and help
Speaker 1: support them. You you start charities in the name of
Speaker 1: the lost kids to raise money for this cause or
Speaker 1: that cause, or you you have to. It's like a
Speaker 1: tunnel of the towers. Frank Siller starts this thing after
Speaker 1: so do I, and it's it's that kind of thing
Speaker 1: you have to. I think the only way to kind
Speaker 1: of get through it. The families that I have seen
Speaker 1: get through things like this throw themselves at trying to
Speaker 1: find a cure or you know, help avoid the kind
Speaker 1: of city because now you're doing it in memory of
Speaker 1: that persona And the whole idea behind you're doing is
Speaker 1: everything you're doing is wanting that memory to live on and.
Speaker 4: Give it greater, greater purpose.
Speaker 5: I don't know, you're right.
Speaker 3: I know five K races, I've been around those tragedies,
Speaker 3: but as a race for the kid who died, et cetera.
Speaker 3: I know, it just puts on a very very sad
Speaker 3: course in life. And I'm sure marriages to deteriorate and
Speaker 3: suicides go up.
Speaker 1: And you know, I had a guy that I worked
Speaker 1: with for years who, at age thirty nine, had his
Speaker 1: aortic valve burst in our office.
Speaker 4: While doing a meeting and he.
Speaker 1: I didn't understand what was I got in the ambulance
Speaker 1: with him as the MS guys came and they looked
Speaker 1: at me and they said, you know your friend is dead.
Speaker 4: Oh God, And I didn't know.
Speaker 1: And it and I had called his wife and said,
Speaker 1: Glenn fainted.
Speaker 4: I'm taking him to the hospital. Meet me at the hospital.
Speaker 4: So now I've got his wife coming.
Speaker 1: To meet me and she thinks they fainted in the office,
Speaker 1: and she's going to get there, and.
Speaker 4: I'm going to have to tell her these days, and well,
Speaker 4: you know, we we used to.
Speaker 1: He had three young kids at the time, and we
Speaker 1: started a a trust to pay for college for the
Speaker 1: kids and did an annual golf tournament and raised a
Speaker 1: lot of money through that golf tournament that that got
Speaker 1: the kids through college and kept Glenn's name a lot
Speaker 1: of it. But her life afterwards, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: just and she's a really strong, really really a brilliant woman.
Speaker 1: But I mean it's a struggle.
Speaker 5: I mean, there's no we're talking about this right this river.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile in Ukraine, where Arena's from, this is happening on
Speaker 3: a daily basis, Like people are losing the cellar.
Speaker 4: Still happening, happened yesterday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what, aj, what's the difference?
Speaker 2: In my mind? I think that this is very horrible
Speaker 2: to admit. But I don't know it's a political mistake,
Speaker 2: it's administrative mistake, or it's you spoke about administration, it's
Speaker 2: God's administration. The things like these massive things, whatever it's
Speaker 2: war or its hurricane, are happening because if you think
Speaker 2: about it, how many lives I'd taken at the same second,
Speaker 2: the same moment I know, like all over, different genders,
Speaker 2: different ages, different inspirations, different beliefs, different mentalities, nationalities. Sometimes
Speaker 2: depends because America is a multicultural country. So you can't
Speaker 2: say that we're only Americans. They were, you know, so
Speaker 2: people with different destinies and different you know, aspirations.
Speaker 3: We Trump said today or yesterday, we have to keep
Speaker 3: arm in Ukraine.
Speaker 5: They have to protect themselves. So he's on board, and
Speaker 5: Putin doesn't want to stop. It's bad.
Speaker 2: You know. I definitely believe in President Trump's decisions. You know,
Speaker 2: I said that since he won, I said, I hope
Speaker 2: he's going to do something, not only for America, for
Speaker 2: my mother and two. So I was kind of believing
Speaker 2: in him twice the only one thing where he didn't
Speaker 2: expect it to be so because he's thought Putting his talkative.
Speaker 2: You can talk to Putting and his joke, his jerk
Speaker 2: joke and everything. What is an idiot and the sick personality,
Speaker 2: So yeah's you how you can talk to a sick
Speaker 2: person who is about to like you know, nobody knows
Speaker 2: he's about to die. There was another version that his
Speaker 2: dead already and this his operating.
Speaker 5: I'm obsessed with. He might have clone.
Speaker 2: That's very who are traced to him because he's scared
Speaker 2: to be shot and to be you know, like kidnapped
Speaker 2: or whatever go on to the trial. So we don't
Speaker 2: even know with whom we deal is and who is
Speaker 2: really like take take care of Russia and all those
Speaker 2: governmental decisions and you see they are like they look
Speaker 2: like they represent Soviet Union with Verans and the border
Speaker 2: and like, you know, any.
Speaker 4: Was who is the guy that just got killed?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Another one I don't know, probably know, but he was he.
Speaker 1: Was fired by Putin and the day after he was
Speaker 1: fired he was murdered.
Speaker 5: Oh really, but we don't.
Speaker 4: You don't know who I'm talking about, Arena, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know enough about it.
Speaker 2: Shame on me. I don't. My mother probably does because she's.
Speaker 3: All it was the minister a Russian minister found dead. Uh.
Speaker 5: Fired Russian minister found dead in his car with a
Speaker 5: gunshot head. Uh name Roman Starovoid.
Speaker 2: I don't watch Russian news forever. I never was interested
Speaker 2: because there are no news in this country. There's just manipulation.
Speaker 2: They live in prison. I don't want day.
Speaker 5: They don't want to look at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: but they don't want us to know anything. We don't
Speaker 5: know anything.
Speaker 4: Just you're never You're never gonna know anything, just like that.
Speaker 5: But Jeffrey Epstein, you know, yes, we all look, we
Speaker 5: all feel.
Speaker 4: Don't go there.
Speaker 5: But it just drives me crazy.
Speaker 3: I want to like Patel and Bondi, And I said
Speaker 3: Bondi and Bongino I wasn't crazy about. But I didn't
Speaker 3: think cash buttels and bullshears. But now I just I
Speaker 3: find it in saying that, oh, there's no less, there's nothing.
Speaker 3: We forget it. You didn't do anything. Come on, guys,
Speaker 3: j you're.
Speaker 2: A bigger movies. How many serious we watched already sharing
Speaker 2: together all of us. You know how they discovered, they
Speaker 2: investigated after they find out that it came from the
Speaker 2: same person who was actually ordering the investigation, and after okay,
Speaker 2: what do we have to do? We have to drop
Speaker 2: it off because somewhere else, on the other part of
Speaker 2: the play, it's going to be an influence. That's why
Speaker 2: I said, political is uh like affairs. They are dirty.
Speaker 2: They have to be. Maybe they don't want to be,
Speaker 2: they have to be.
Speaker 5: It's a filthy game.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Okay, can we go for something a colic.
Speaker 1: So you're you're on the the list is the You're
Speaker 1: not on the he didn't he was murdered thing?
Speaker 4: Are you still on the he was murdered thing?
Speaker 5: I I do believe that with a minute missing from
Speaker 5: that tape. You can see there's a minute missing. I
Speaker 5: don't like the fact that Michael bidden.
Speaker 3: I love that Michael Biden said the bones that were
Speaker 3: broken in his neck more resemble a strangulation, not a hanging.
Speaker 4: No, this guy, Michael Michael Boden is a for higher crook.
Speaker 4: He's a fucking liar. He's guys, guys.
Speaker 3: He sat over how many hundreds, hundreds, and.
Speaker 1: He's for hire to say whatever you need him to say.
Speaker 1: Look at the Look at the Derek Chauvin a case
Speaker 1: with him.
Speaker 5: But Chauvin wasn't killed by me on his neck.
Speaker 4: Chauvin didn't kill anyone.
Speaker 3: He was Shelvin didn't kill Saint George Floyd with me
Speaker 3: on his neck, was on his upper back.
Speaker 1: Boden said, he still puts pressure on You're experts said,
Speaker 1: he did.
Speaker 5: Well, look at I can't.
Speaker 1: He'll say whatever anybody pays him to say.
Speaker 4: Disregard anything that guy said.
Speaker 5: I don't believe Evert was killed himself. I just I
Speaker 5: don't believe. I want to know why the cameras around,
Speaker 5: and what there's a minute missing, and why the guards
Speaker 5: were sleeping. Look at man, if it smells like shit,
Speaker 5: it's ship. That's just too many, just too many.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll have I'll pull the episode and and have
Speaker 1: you listen to the John Ziggler taking apart every every
Speaker 1: bit of this thing.
Speaker 5: Let's not let's not forget.
Speaker 3: John Zigglers said Donald Trump cannot win, and I said
Speaker 3: he's gonna win by a landslide, and I fucking was right,
Speaker 3: So Sicki's not always right.
Speaker 5: He's a great reporter, but it's not always right. Not
Speaker 5: everybody is.
Speaker 4: What what you're that?
Speaker 5: You mean?
Speaker 4: Twenty sixteen, I said Trump's gonna win by lance? Yeah, no,
Speaker 4: look you were no one.
Speaker 3: Sigla, Jay Zigla's done more of this than you can imagine.
Speaker 4: Got it ninety ninety something percent, you know what, the odds.
Speaker 5: Were a great report.
Speaker 4: He pulled it unbelievable inside straight and won a.
Speaker 3: Great But anyhow, I just think Epstein has there's just
Speaker 3: too many bad things surrounding him. Maybe I'm wrong, but
Speaker 3: a lot of people feel like I do. It's just
Speaker 3: very strange this guy's gone. But anyhow, that's a whole
Speaker 3: two shows in a row.
Speaker 5: Forget about that.
Speaker 4: Okay, let's this is like the third week in a row.
Speaker 1: I get, I prepare like five topics and we get
Speaker 1: to like two of where she invites thanks for listening,
Speaker 1: and we will be back at you with episode thirty eight.
Speaker 4: All right, thanks guys.
Speaker 5: Then that was weird.