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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks. Here's

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your source of information and analysis to help you win

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Speaker 2: Bark Off Hot a step hit on Stay Lock.

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Speaker 3: Here's your hosts, Jesse Severe and Victor Nuno.

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Speaker 2: Fantasy Hockey Live looks again. Jesse Severe, Victor Nuno Ready

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to talk fantasy hockey. Victor, how you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing awesome, Jesse. Definitely not as lucky as the

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Islanders moving up to draft the number one overall pick,

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but feeling feeling lucky enough and good enough. How are

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you doing, my friend?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, yeah, you gotta. There's some franchises that are

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star crossed, so I don't feel I don't feel bad

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that they want it, even if they are in the

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out there in the metro. Gotta watch them a lot

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every year. But the end of the Islanders, let's give

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them some luck, let's give them a chance. And today

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we're going to give them some shine because it's all

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about the Islanders with our guests today. And if you,

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for some reason after this episode feel like I want

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to talk about some Islanders, you can go to our

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else not the Islanders. There are many more topics that

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Speaker 2: Hey, folks, do not adjust your ears. This is Jesse

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talking to you from the future. Still your past, but

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the future of the conversation you've just heard. I am

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going to interject right here to say that the interview

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you're about to hear, and in fact, the rest of

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this episode was all recorded before the NHL Draft. Not

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only that it was also recorded, but then before the

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no adopts in trade, which you might be saying, gosh,

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that was a long time ago. The logistics of getting

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all these episodes recorded and released around the draft episodes

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made this happen. Please forgive us. It's not Stephan Rosner's fault.

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As we talk with him. I think the analysis still

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stays clear, and I think we all had a pretty

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good idea idea that Matthew Shaffer was going to be

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the pick, so that will be referred to. But please

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don't be confused, and remember that at the end of

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the season we do our Ketchup and Mustard episodes where

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we catch up to the moves that happened after our

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team previews, so we will hear about some more changes

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that happened post Dobson trade at that time. Thank you,

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and now back to your regularly scheduled program. All right,

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and right after this we will talk some islands. Welcome

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me back to the show. Stepan Rosner of NHL dot

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Com ready to tell us about the New York Islanders.

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How you doing today, Stepan.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing fantastic. Thanks so much guys for having me

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back on. Really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, love talking some Islanders with you. You know

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this team very well. And we start with the overall

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big picture look for the first time in years. My

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snap impression of the Isles is changes could be coming.

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Some could. Some would make a lot of the departure

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of Lou Lamorello and his willingness to ice the older,

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shall we say, underwhelmingly exciting teams. It's been seven seasons

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since the Isles roster was not among the ten oldest

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according to Hockey Reference in average age, so it's been

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in experienced roster. In other words, those seven years were

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exactly the Lou Lamarrello era. Still, you can make fun

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of that all you want. The Isles punched way above

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their weight through much of that era, with five playoff

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appearances and run as far as two trips to the

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Final four in the NHL Playoffs. This year, however, they

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were twenty seventh in goals for scored the fewest power

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play goals on the second worst power play execution percentage

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and had the second worst penalty kill percentage. The team's

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twenty four hundred and eighteen shots were actually sixth in

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the league. That's sixth best, Folks. That scoring deficit was

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because the shots only went in nine point two percent

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of the time. That was thirtieth place. They traded away

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one of their best players in Brack Nelson. They have

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plenty of contracts left on the books they're going to

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have to deal with, but some new hope in the

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form of the number one overall pick. So, Stephan overall, here,

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what's the state of the ales right now? And what

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do you expect to next?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is the biggest question mark I think in

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the NHL in terms of what is Matthew darts first time? Yeah,

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I'm going to do you look at this roster. We

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know that lou Lemerla tripled down on a roster that

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never want anything. You mentioned the back to back Eastern

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but then all these long term deals.

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Speaker 5: So what do you do?

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Speaker 4: I think for Darts, you doesn't want to rush this right.

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He wants to do it right. He knows the importance

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of development. The Islanders prospect will has been ranked towards

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the bottom for a long time. But with guys like

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Cole Eiserman, getting Nelson, getting cal Richie and Nelson deal

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that you just mentioned before, and now having the first

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overall pick, things they're looking brighter for sure. And I

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think for Darts it's about evaluating this group maybe first

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month or two of the season, and then maybe making

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some bigger moves to the deadline. I don't think this

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summer is going to be crazy. I know Islander fans

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want complete turnover, Go get Eelers, go get Morn or

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trade everybody they possibly can, but a lot of these

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players have modified no trade clauses or full no trade clauses,

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So I think it'll be a wait and see what

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see how Darts evaluates this core, whoever this core may be,

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and then I think you'll see more changes happening at

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twenty twenty six deadline and at twenty twenty six at

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a toil draft. Nothing too crazy this summer, maybe some

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death pieces to help with some secondary and tertiary scoring.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with Bohorvat on this team, he had twenty

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eight goals twenty nine assists for in eighty one games played,

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and those fifty seven points led the team among the

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many statistical categories. Horbat was the best player on the team.

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Total lies time was the best among the forwards. He

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took more than three shots per game. He won a

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lot of face offs. By the way, the Ales as

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a team won four hundred and fifty more face offs

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than they lost, topping the NHL's second ranked team, the Leafs,

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by one hundred and fourteen positive face offs. They blew

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away the field and face offs won. I just thought

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i'd note that. Still back to Horvat, he has totally

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slipped on the teams, as the teams did in his

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even strength defense rated poorly in goals above replacement. How

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is Horvat's time on the island aging and what are

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you expecting for him going ahead?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's been since he's joined the Islanders

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after having that impressive starting Vancouver that one seed, and

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it was just it's been tough because lineup, line changes.

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Long Island, which has really been tough for Bow. And

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it's clear that Bo's whole finger and he's told us

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numerous times. One he's got to be better, but two

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he wants to get able to make every lineman he

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has better. He doesn't have to be relying on other

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people to be better. So I know for a fact

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that things he could be a lot better then he's been,

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but he's been consistent to.

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Speaker 5: Work ethics there.

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Speaker 4: We could talk about that all we want, but yeah,

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production wise, I think this year is with down not

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I having Barzol really hurt him because him and Barzol

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showed to be a dynamic duo the season prior. And

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I think just without Bo, Declaire gets hurt those You

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Speaker 5: The first two weeks of the season, three weeks of

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the season. That's tough.

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Speaker 4: So I think you got to give credit to Bo

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for sticking with it. I know it's easy to say,

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but production with him there, it's hard when you have

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to do it all yourself. And I think maybe he

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saw his defense take a hit with that. But you mentioned,

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you know, face off dot I think he said a

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career high in the faceoff dot a Lott Islanders did

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that he brought in from Quebec, was in charge of

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face offs, and he's the only one that's staying on

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the coaching staff. That should help bo Horeb and others.

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a bounced back season. I don't think it's been great

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if you look at his contract and things like that.

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for what's gone on with all the injuries and things

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like that, and coaching change did all that kind of stuff.

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But I think bo Horve, you looked like you said

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the twenty eight goals this past year. I think he's

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a thirty plus guy. I think he can be that.

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I think having the right lineles is.

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Speaker 5: Important for him.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure if he plays with bars All next

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year personally, especially with rock Nelson gotten now, i'd move

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bars All back to center. I just think he's better

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in the middle of the ice. Maybe give Horvat get

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one of those guys at freegency, or maybe playing with

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a Holmestrom or a Siplokov, which we'll probably get to

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in a little bit season next year. But I don't

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think it's gonna be completely crazy to what we saw

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this year. I think sixty points, sixty two, sixty three

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points is probably where he'll be at.

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Speaker 2: We're going to have a moment of appreciation for Anders

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late here, folks. The old captain's goals above replacement led

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the team by a lot. His even strength offense rated

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the best of players on the team who played the

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bulk of the season. His twenty nine goals led the

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team overall. In our tidy format, our fantasy ranking format,

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he finished eighty seventh amongst skaters, which is way above

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where he gets rated I think by a lot of folks.

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I think people outside in you York probably forget sometimes

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about him. I went on Hockey Reference and looked this up,

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and by my reckoning, he's fourth in the NHL among

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active players and goals scored in his career. Do you

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expect another season of the same sort of underrated excellence?

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In many ways, play from Lee or the scoring isn't

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what he used to be in some ways, is the

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eventual decline coming for him like it does for all

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think Islander fans will call it on the lease

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surgence this past year. He needed this.

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Speaker 4: I think it was important in a lot of the

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rumors and what do they do with the caff and

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see you haven't been doing anything, they have to move on.

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I don't think we'll see twenty eight.

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Speaker 5: To thirty goals from Leave next year.

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of that had to do with

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all the injuries where Lee found himself playing with Horvat

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on the top line. Getting those extra minutes certainly impacted

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his production. But that being said, he did switch stick brands.

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He's skating, you're using a Warrior stake, and he just

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finished more chances than he's had in years past, obviously

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going back to when he had those big years and

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got his contract to seven by seven, But he just

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finished in front of the end. He was dynamic there

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and his skating looked light years better than it's been. Again,

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he had an ACL injury a couple of years ago,

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if you guys are remember, and I think it's just

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third line forward in terms of fantasy value, maybe middle

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six forward, But I don't think we're gonna see as

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much productions as I don't the minutes are going to

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so we'll get to him now. February first knee injury

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limited barsologist thirty games this season. He just scored twenty

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points in those thirty games, which was at five point pace.

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That was a big step down from his next worst

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productive season, which was sixty which he had two of

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sixty two. And I know that we've seen seventy eighty

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point production from him. I wonder if you think he

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can get back up to that full that point per

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game production if he's fully healthy next season. I guess

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the question is will he be fully healthy and do

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you think he can bounce back to that level.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So he had the knee injury in February, block

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and a shot, that's just unfortunate. Then he had an

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upper body injury two weeks into the season, three weeks

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into the season against Columbus, and I just, yeah, it

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was tough. I think get back to being an eighty two.

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I think it could be a point per game play,

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I really do. It also depends on who his linemans

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are going to be. Like I mentioned putting him back

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to center, that obviously eliminates more that being his linemates

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where he had a fantastic year and had his best

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year since his call. They're winning years. So I think

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Barzalt it's going to be about him shooting more. That's

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always been his thing. He's a great playmaker, but when

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you're a one dimensional playmaker and people don't think you're

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going to shoot, defenders don't think you're gonna shoot, and

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you don't shoot, you're not going to score the goals.

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And I think when he found the confidence in shooting,

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that's when you saw the bounce back season where he

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has done now on both fronts. So I think the

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biggest thing for Barzol when it comes to Fantady is

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who's gonna play with. I'm not saying it's gonna be

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less point production if he's the center and not in

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align with Horbat, but it certainly could impact it depending

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on the finishing of the guys around. And like I

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mentioned zip Acop, he didn't score a lot of goal

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with his first an Antel year and now that's what

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he was supposed to do. Do clare Is do Clark

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gonna be healthy, Dolaig're gonna play with Warbat or do

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Claire gonna play with Barzel in this instance? So I

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think Barzol is an eighty two point fire.

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Speaker 5: He could do it.

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Speaker 4: He's got to be healthy, and I think that's he's

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not injury prone, but he's had unfortunate injuries over his

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career so far.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, health you should be.

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Speaker 4: To go for Triny camp Peeth unless he was already

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skating towards the end of the year that he could

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potentially key back for the playoffs, but they weren't going

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to rush it. So yeah, I think he's gonna be dynamic.

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Yet again, I think get up a really strong season,

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but we have to see who he's gonna play with.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, get out of the way of those shots, man,

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Come on, just that's fine. You got a good goalie

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back there. We'll talk about him later, but let's move

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on to the next guy. We're going to talk about that.

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Simon Holmstrom. Second straight season for homes from playing seventy

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five games, and he's actually right on the dot at

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two hundred HL games played. That's fine. He boosted his

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point pass from twenty seven to forty nine this past

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season and telling twenty goals for the first season. Probably

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one of the most unherlded twenty goal scorers in the league.

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I would say this season, not a lot of people

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talked about him. I certainly noticed at times like, oh,

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he's still still putting up numbers, that's fine, and its

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time on ice went up by four minutes. That's a

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little bit of a tip of the hat from the

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coaching staff, just under seventeen minutes total time on ice.

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If you look at some of his underlying metrics, Holmstrom

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had a pretty awful course. He against his expected goals

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against those average like he seemed an average defensive player.

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But maybe he just got a little unlucky out there.

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I'm not sure. Looking at the expected goals, he actually

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looked like he way overperformed what was expected of him.

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So I don't know, maybe he was getting a little

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lucky there. I'm not really sure what to make of him, Stefan.

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That's why you're here to tell us what we should

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expect from Holmestrom coming up to next season. Do you

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think he can get to that fifty point pace or

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do you think there's some regression coming here?

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Speaker 4: No, for sure, I think this is a guy that

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could be a twenty five to thirty goal scorer in

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this league. You look at him and he doesn't shoot

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the puck a lot, but when he shoots, the pucket

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goes in, and he had a high shooting percentage. He's

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relied upon heavily. Like you mentioned tipping the cap to

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Patrick will, he earned Patrick Wahs trust. Is the guy

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that broke into the NHL because of his defense, but

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always had that off in the game. You just had

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to have the confidence in the shot. And you saw

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it last year again with injuries that allowed him and

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other guys to get more ice time and just grow.

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And I think this guy's obviously an RFA. He's going

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to get a contract, probably a longer trim deal or

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a bridge. Still, we'll see what happens to This guy

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is a true top. I mean he probably second line

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is his ceiling, but he's dynamic. He plays on the

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power play, he plays on the penalty kill, and I

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know his defensive metrics might not be great, but he's

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relied heavily. Probably one of their better defensive forwards. I'm

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playing with Padro, he could play anywhere in the lineup.

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Maybe there's a chance he plays at bars all this

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upcoming year. I think that's a strong possibility, which obviously

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would help his fantasy number. But yeah, I'm pretty high

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in Simon Holton. I think he's only going to get better.

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He's still young, and I still think there's more to

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do with his confidence. I think it's high as high

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has never been, but I think it was another level

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to his game, and I think he's going to be

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a really dynamic player for the Islanders for years to

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come and then obviously that will help his fantasy for sure.

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Speaker 2: On to JG. Pajo and old Jean Gabriel has always

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struck me. Is a steady player, scores somewhere in the

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vicinity of half a point per game every year, takes

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a bit over a shot, throws a lot of hits,

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especially for a center, and wins a lot of face offs.

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Five times in his thirteen year career, he's garnered SELK votes,

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though not necessarily in the most recent seasons. Seems like

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a competent second centerman who on a championship team probably

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would and could play lower in the line up than that.

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What's your take on Pago's season and the road ahead

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for the player who will turn thirty three early next season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the question mark is going to be

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an islander come the start of the season.

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Speaker 5: I think he will be.

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Speaker 4: I think it's more like a guy like Casey Zekis

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does get moved because he has no trade production. But

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Pagoe he's a fantastic faceoff man. He said a career

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high in face offs this year. He was phenomenal on

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the face off dot. Like Lye, he played higher up

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in the lineup, sometimes at wing just because of injuries.

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The penalty kills struggle minl this year and you could

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blame him a little bit for that, but he should

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balance back in that regard. But yeah, production wise, Pajo's

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not guy that's going to like the lamp every game.

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But fourteen goals, twenty exist forty two points. I think

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there's a twenty goal scoring him. I think it depends

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on Tome. I was probably closer to fifteen sixteen goals.

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But yeah, this guy is very underrated for what he's

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able to do and maybe doesn't have as much fantasy

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value as well, because you know, if he's a defensive forward,

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that's usually the role. But he showed that if given

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an offensive role, he can produce. Not a twenty twenty

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five goal scorer, but maybe fifteen sixteen goals, and I

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think the Islanders that's good for them. Not sure how

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great it is for Fantasy, but yeah, I think for

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Pago he showed last year there's definitely more left in

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the tank offensively than what he showed, maybe in a

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couple of years probably.

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Speaker 5: I know we had a hand.

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Speaker 4: Injury in the bubble and he ended up not being

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going to finish that series, and I think that hand

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injury really took him out of the offensive game for

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a couple of years. But I think he's come to

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rule now. Confidence also played the part, but I think

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when he's doing this stuff well defensively, more of an

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offensive game for him.

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Speaker 5: So I think this is a.

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Speaker 4: Guy that that certainly could be a factor offensively given

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his minutes. But yeah, I think you could.

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Speaker 5: See the scene he just had.

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Speaker 4: I think he can make that again next year, whether

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it's with the Islanders or with f it's with another team,

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I think it's even higher because he might be might

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be tasted maybe in more offensive role than he got

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on the Island.

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Speaker 2: And Maxim Tiplikoff is another guy you mentioned along the way,

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the hot addition from Russia last season, he started as

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a top six player in average time on ice, but

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usage declined as the season went along, until he was

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playing very much a depth role for Patrick wat at

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the end of the year, at least by minutes. He

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played through a ten games scoreless streak in around the

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new year that ended in a three game suspension for

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a headshot, and it was a three game suspension, but

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he missed four games, so I don't know if they

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just told him to sit down an extra one after

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that for what overall? Topping half a point per game

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in one's first year in the NHL is pretty good, though,

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keeping in mind he's already twenty six. Maybe not as

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good as it would be for some nineteen year old rookie,

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but and he also likes to throw hits one and

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a half per game. That's something as fantasy types enjoy.

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What do you make of Mexim Ziplokov's debut and whether

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he is going to be an impact or a long

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term piece for the Islanders team.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a real confeeding one.

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Speaker 4: When he was coming over from Russell, the whole talk

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was this guy's the goal scorer, and Islander fans were

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salvating because they need a goal scorer. And he just

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kept racking up assists and they're thinking at some point

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it has to even out right, this guy the goal scorer.

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He's getting the assist because the game is different, the

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ring size, just in style. He has to get used

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to it. And the goals never really came. And you

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mentioned the three games suspension. Did sit a fourth game

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because the Island was actually playing pretty well and why

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didn't want to mess with the lineup. But yeah, I

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think there's concern in the sense of the ten goals

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as ten goals, and I think but there are opportunities

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to score. He is incredible, incredibly talented at driving to

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the slot and getting that shooting ran. He has a

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quick move to the slot. It opened it up and

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he had a lethal shot. It just didn't bury. And

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I think maybe having that once he did un of

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the belt. Year two, I think you'll see more goals.

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Not saying he's going to score twenty five, but I

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think twenty goals is certainly on the table. He does

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throw the body, which is impressive. He has no fear

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at all in his game, and the one biggest thing

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for him that I think limited his offensive zone time

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and just those offensive numbers is he turned the pucker

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over a lot. He's a very big in transitioning in

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that stretch pass or neutra zone pass. He just he

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forced it too many times. He trusts himself and I

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think he can be a really strong playmaker. But if

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you're the Islanders, you want to see him find the

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back of that. You don't need him to.

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Speaker 5: Be a playmaker.

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Speaker 4: He's here to score girls goals. I think he can

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be a twenty goal mark and I just think this

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year is more about him just getting comfortable and the

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fact that he was able to get as many assists

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as he did. I think the strong sign that he's

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an understanding the NHL game. Cut down in the turnovers,

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take more shots. I think he's going to be in

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good shape to be a twenty goal scorer for the

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Islanders this year.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about one of the young guys, Callum Ritchie,

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one of the guys alluded to in that deal. He

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did play the first seven games for the Avalanche season.

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I think maybe a bit surprisingly made the team out

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of camp and looked a bit overwhelmed. I would say

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watching those games, there were some you could see the skill,

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but also you could see he wasn't quite ready. He

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went back to the O and had a fantastic season

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for the Oshawa Generals and also was on that team

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Canada for the twenty World Junior Championships. I'm curious, Evan,

477
00:20:03,759 --> 00:20:06,079
what you think his chances are making the team out

478
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,519
of camp. It seems he did already once. Maybe he'll

479
00:20:08,519 --> 00:20:10,400
make it again and actually stick with the team all

480
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,759
or most of the season. He is twenty already this season.

481
00:20:13,759 --> 00:20:15,759
He'll be twenty one in January of next year, so

482
00:20:16,279 --> 00:20:18,559
he's got a little bit more experience under his belt,

483
00:20:18,559 --> 00:20:20,920
and they certainly could use a little bit more offense.

484
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,960
So what are your thoughts on Kellen Ritchie playing with

485
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:23,960
the Islanders next season.

486
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're going to make the team out

487
00:20:26,519 --> 00:20:28,119
of camp. I think you look at a sample size

488
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,359
he did look overwhelmed. He goes back with OSTAUA, had

489
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,799
a pretty solid season, they go to the playoffs. I

490
00:20:32,839 --> 00:20:36,480
think for him it'll be a bottom sixth role. If

491
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:37,839
people want to say they can just go in and

492
00:20:37,839 --> 00:20:39,759
play him as the number two center, I think that's crazy.

493
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,559
He needs more time, he needs to get adjusted. I

494
00:20:41,599 --> 00:20:44,200
think having guys like Pajo and Warvett and Paul Mary

495
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,960
to really show him the ropes of what it means

496
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,440
to be in NHL. I think is important.

497
00:20:48,079 --> 00:20:48,799
Speaker 5: But I love his game.

498
00:20:48,839 --> 00:20:50,599
Speaker 4: I'm pretty high on Calum Richie, but I think he's

499
00:20:50,599 --> 00:20:52,880
probably going to be a third or fourth line center.

500
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,160
I don't think he's gonna move the wing. I think

501
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,599
he is a center. That's where he's got to be.

502
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:57,720
But yeah, you want a confidence. I guess that's the

503
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,119
biggest thing. You Look, he looked overwhelmed with Colorado in

504
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,960
those seven games. I think he played and he did

505
00:21:02,039 --> 00:21:04,559
score against the Islanders, scored against the Roken his won

506
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,720
NHL goal, But I think he had any talent. He

507
00:21:07,799 --> 00:21:10,319
just has to trust himself he got He's got one

508
00:21:10,319 --> 00:21:12,119
of the highest prospects in Colorado system.

509
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:12,599
Speaker 5: For a reason.

510
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,759
Speaker 4: The Islanders wanted him and then he was believed to

511
00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:16,960
be untouchable. So I think he makes it out of camp. Also,

512
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,000
Bridgeport being the mess that it is, I think it

513
00:21:19,039 --> 00:21:20,960
would just be detrimental for him to go to Bridgeport.

514
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,200
I'd rather I'd rather him have growing pain at the

515
00:21:23,279 --> 00:21:25,119
NHL level and get a custom there. So I don't

516
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,000
know how much of a fantasy impact he'd have. It

517
00:21:27,079 --> 00:21:28,880
is first year with the Islanders, but I do think

518
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,640
he makes the team, and I think he'll surprise some

519
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,920
people in terms of how fast he does get adjusted.

520
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,480
I think in a Patrick Wats system that's focusing offense

521
00:21:35,519 --> 00:21:37,400
as well at Colorado's, I just think he might be

522
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,319
in a lesser role that maybe he doesn't go up

523
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,160
against the number one or two pairings of the opponents,

524
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,119
maybe the bottom pairing, and I think he could exploit that.

525
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,960
So I think I think you have a solid to

526
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,279
start with the honors. I'm not sure if I have

527
00:21:47,319 --> 00:21:49,319
too much value on the fantasy thing, but I think

528
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,000
he could be definitely a sleeper kind of pick for fantasy.

529
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you said, a depth role, maybe he can

530
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,640
get some favorable matchups that could be really good for him.

531
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,119
That sounds good. Let's move over to the blue line.

532
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,640
We're going to start, of course with Noah Dobson, and

533
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,480
Dobson points wise definitely had a bit of a regression.

534
00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:08,720
He went from a seventy three point pace to a

535
00:22:08,839 --> 00:22:11,880
forty five point pace. The previous two seasons. Before that

536
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,640
seventy three point pace, he was in the low fifties,

537
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,839
so not too terribly different from those seasons. His time

538
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,359
on ice did go down just a smidge, but he

539
00:22:20,559 --> 00:22:24,519
kept his power play time and overall he played miss

540
00:22:24,519 --> 00:22:27,839
a few games, but he had a similar number of hits, shots, blocks,

541
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,319
so all that was still looking pretty good. And he

542
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,559
still was in like his ipp and points percentage, all

543
00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:37,359
that was pretty similar. So what do you think we

544
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,720
can expect from Dobson moving forward? Do you think he's

545
00:22:39,759 --> 00:22:43,359
going to get back to being closer to seventy point

546
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,039
guy or do you think he'll settle around this fifty

547
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:45,839
ish point pace.

548
00:22:46,799 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's better than any better closer to

549
00:22:48,759 --> 00:22:50,599
a seventy point guy than he was this past year.

550
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,920
I think he's probably sixty sixty five point ring, which

551
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,119
is still fantastic and the Islanders could use that. I

552
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,799
think he was another situation where injuries to the team,

553
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,880
barzald player at power play being dead him quarterback in

554
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,519
that power play. Not having that bar the well at

555
00:23:02,519 --> 00:23:04,880
the pass too hurt his numbers severely. And this is

556
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,440
a guy that if he's not producing offensively, his defensive

557
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,880
game isn't the best. I think it hurts the confident.

558
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,799
We talked about confidence a lot, but it's a real thing.

559
00:23:11,839 --> 00:23:14,400
He's also in need of a contract. We'll see what

560
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,599
the Honors do with him. There's rumors and speculation. I

561
00:23:16,599 --> 00:23:18,519
don't think he gets traded. I think he's with the Islanders,

562
00:23:18,519 --> 00:23:20,200
and I think he's going to be a top parent.

563
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,920
I think he's a number two. I think maybe there

564
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,799
were times where we thought that Dobson could be a

565
00:23:23,839 --> 00:23:25,440
number one. I think he is a number two. We'll

566
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,880
see if they draft Matthew Schaeffer and the draft, which

567
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,480
obviously would impact Dobson if Schaefer is ready, and maybe

568
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,359
that's his partner. Who knows, but yeah, I think Dobson's

569
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,680
close to that seventy point guy. He just needs the

570
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,599
players around him to finish the chances of the power play.

571
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,519
If he's gonna get to seventy points or sixty five

572
00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:40,319
points and he's quarterback in the power play, it's got

573
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,720
to be effective the secondary assist guy as well, which

574
00:23:42,759 --> 00:23:45,240
is important when the Honors struggled to finish this year.

575
00:23:45,279 --> 00:23:46,880
But he could if he could show to be a

576
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,559
power play guy, whether it's power play one or power

577
00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:50,359
play too. When the power play gets going, I think

578
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,039
sky's limited for him. The problem is when the power

579
00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:54,359
play is not going, it's gonna hurt Hi. It's gonna

580
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,519
hurt him tremendously. The Islanders are they create chances of

581
00:23:56,559 --> 00:23:58,839
that five on five, but they need the power play

582
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,279
for Dobson to be the most effect him and he

583
00:24:00,319 --> 00:24:01,720
needs to get a key part in that. So yeah,

584
00:24:01,759 --> 00:24:03,920
I think he posted a seventy point guy. Probably put

585
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,319
him that sixty h But I think this past year

586
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,400
was attributed to the lack of forwards finishing chance and

587
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,400
then just him in general, having different defense partners everybody

588
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,039
in the back and got hurt and missed at least

589
00:24:14,079 --> 00:24:16,200
one game the entire year, which is really tough to

590
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,720
get into a flow. He had his injuries as well,

591
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,519
But yeah, I think the closest twenty point guy. I

592
00:24:19,519 --> 00:24:21,279
don't know if he gets to that, maybe sixty five,

593
00:24:21,319 --> 00:24:23,160
but I think I bounce back to him for sure,

594
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,240
especially if he gets the contract done. I think that

595
00:24:25,319 --> 00:24:26,839
also is a lot of perfect for a young player

596
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:27,240
as well.

597
00:24:29,559 --> 00:24:34,279
Speaker 2: The defense gets a little bit rougher from our fantasy perspective.

598
00:24:34,319 --> 00:24:38,319
From here, well, we'll put up Ryan Pullock and Alexander Romanov.

599
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,720
They both have maybe a little bit more of a

600
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,559
defensive role, otherwise not necessarily that similar. In some ways,

601
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,680
they do get a lot of bash, a lot of hits,

602
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,640
a lot of blocks for both of them. And Romanov

603
00:24:51,079 --> 00:24:53,519
is up on restrictive free agency this summer, so I

604
00:24:53,519 --> 00:24:56,319
guess there's some question there. But among Romanov and Poolock,

605
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,039
would you see who you like who you got for

606
00:24:59,119 --> 00:24:59,559
next year?

607
00:25:00,599 --> 00:25:03,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's concern. I would probably honestly lean

608
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,599
more towards Romanov just in terms of the hit aspects

609
00:25:06,599 --> 00:25:08,839
and the blocks. And he didn't produce off the rush.

610
00:25:08,839 --> 00:25:10,799
I've never seen a guy like in him. This is

611
00:25:10,839 --> 00:25:12,680
the first year where I said, oh wow, he's dangerous

612
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,440
off the rush. Pullock, I think has regressed a lot

613
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,000
in his offensive game. He was paid to be an

614
00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:19,599
offensive guy, while Pellick was paid to be a defensive guy.

615
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,200
And Pulock's kind of turned into Scott Mayfield in the

616
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,279
sense of he's more defensive, more lay the body, blocked

617
00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:27,359
the shots, and then that's the problem when you're paying

618
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,440
him to produce offensively. They're not a guy that should

619
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,359
have five goals. He his shots that I have not

620
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,720
been on target. He's really struggled with his consistency at

621
00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:36,039
hitting the net, and it's hurt and it's hurt his

622
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,799
value and I think for Romanov, I just think he's

623
00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:40,640
gonna hit more, and I just think Romanov also offensively.

624
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,880
I think his offensive game. I think Romanov had four

625
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,440
goals and sixten assists. Pulock had five goals and eighteen assists.

626
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,680
I'm more impressive. Romanov gave me also younger, more durable

627
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,240
in the sense of that he is younger. He has

628
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:51,880
had a couple of injuries and things like that just

629
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,200
come from hits. But I'd be higher in Romanov in

630
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,240
terms of complete value than Pulac.

631
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,519
Speaker 2: For sure, we're going deeper. Yes, I'm not quite sure

632
00:26:02,079 --> 00:26:05,519
if if every show would even cover Scott Perinovich, but

633
00:26:05,599 --> 00:26:08,839
we're gonna His minutes were some of the worst, whether

634
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,839
without you from a goal's foreign goals against great perspective

635
00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:14,400
for the team. Last year, he got healthy, scratched a

636
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,839
lot for the Blues, traded to the Aisles when the

637
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,240
Ales had a lot of defenseman injuries in January, and

638
00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:24,039
then when others returned, he went back to the press

639
00:26:24,079 --> 00:26:26,599
box a lot. He was a pretty good prospect at

640
00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:30,079
one point. He's now twenty six, but he's also got

641
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,880
an expired contract, so I'm not sure if he will

642
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,640
be an Islander next year. What do you think of

643
00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:37,640
is Parunovich. Maybe a long shot candidate to have a

644
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:38,880
role with this team next year.

645
00:26:39,839 --> 00:26:40,799
Speaker 5: Definitely long shot.

646
00:26:40,839 --> 00:26:42,759
Speaker 4: I'm not sure they even offer him a contract, to

647
00:26:42,759 --> 00:26:45,119
be completely unless you mentioned it was a great prospect.

648
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,799
Toby Baker winner, I believe, and he came over, showed

649
00:26:47,799 --> 00:26:50,599
some skill that Jelland really needed, really strong puck, possessor

650
00:26:50,599 --> 00:26:52,480
of ads, danger, does all those great things. But he

651
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,200
had a really bad game against the Rangers. It's not

652
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,119
his fault. He's trying to box out Matt Renpy's. He's

653
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,680
not the biggest guy, so Renpy is and he failed

654
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,759
in that guard. He got healthy, scratched pretty much for

655
00:27:01,799 --> 00:27:04,119
the rest of this season. So yeah, I don't think

656
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,799
he need a factor at all for the Islanders. Maybe

657
00:27:05,839 --> 00:27:08,000
as a deaf guy in Bridgeport, if that's even the case.

658
00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:09,720
If not, maybe he signed to the team to give

659
00:27:09,759 --> 00:27:12,440
him a chance somewhere else. But yeah, he really struggled.

660
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,000
I didn't know why I didn't get back in the lineup.

661
00:27:14,039 --> 00:27:15,839
I think we've asked Patrick rob about it. I don't.

662
00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:17,680
I just think he had better options, or he thought

663
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,799
he had better options. But yeah, I don't think he's

664
00:27:19,799 --> 00:27:21,839
a factor at all for the Islanders next year. If

665
00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:23,279
he is, I means there's probably been a lot of

666
00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:24,319
injuries and they had to call him.

667
00:27:24,279 --> 00:27:24,799
Speaker 5: Up and play him.

668
00:27:24,839 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, it stinks because he has so much potential.

669
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,759
Now you said he's twenty six. Now I haven't really

670
00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:31,440
shown a lot you'd go in transition, But I think

671
00:27:31,519 --> 00:27:34,000
has a strong HOCKEYQ, which if he got playing time,

672
00:27:34,039 --> 00:27:35,640
you think that would lead to a lot more assistant

673
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,160
and be a Fannessy like sleeper value wise, But I

674
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,680
don't think he's gonna get the ice time to really

675
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:40,279
produce it. All.

676
00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 3: That's good to know. Maybe a little bit unfortunate, but

677
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,039
always good to know. Let's move over to the goalies.

678
00:27:47,559 --> 00:27:49,960
The Islanders were ranked twenty first in terms of expected

679
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,960
goals against for sixty be conceded the fourteenth ranked actual

680
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,160
goals against per game. We all know why. His name

681
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,400
is Ilias Sarokan, and he was awesome this season. He

682
00:27:58,599 --> 00:28:01,160
was twelfth in the league and in terms of goals

683
00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:04,680
save above expected he was seventeenth in Delta Fenwick and

684
00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:08,880
of course for the Islanders he was definitely their the

685
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,720
main guy. Sixty one games played, fifteen point sixty one

686
00:28:11,759 --> 00:28:14,960
goals save above expected at even strength, pretty awesome stuff.

687
00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:19,799
Varlamov had ten games, Hopeburg had fifteen. I think moving forward,

688
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,519
it's obviously going to be Soroken here. I think we

689
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:25,319
can probably expect sixty ish games and saving more goals

690
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,319
than expected. Is that what you would expect Stefan? And

691
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,119
who's we going to see sixty more? What do you

692
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,079
think we're going to see in terms of Sorokan and

693
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,799
whoever else gets the rest of the games?

694
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 5: Yeah?

695
00:28:36,079 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 4: I think the goals to not play Serroken more than

696
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,000
sixty games, and just every year something on Varlamov gets hurt.

697
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,559
We spoke with Varlamov after the season he's been out.

698
00:28:43,599 --> 00:28:45,240
We thought maybe he was going to retire. We heard

699
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,920
some things, but he said he should be ready to

700
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,640
go for next year, which is a positive, except he

701
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,599
gets hurt every year. And Hagberg struggled late after going

702
00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:52,960
back from an injury, so I don't know if he

703
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,279
could even be your number two. But yeah, Sarrocan. I

704
00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:57,200
think he's a product of bad defense in front of

705
00:28:57,319 --> 00:28:59,039
the penalty kill. I mean, his stats at five and

706
00:28:59,119 --> 00:29:01,720
five or even strength really good, and then his penalty

707
00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:04,319
kill was downright terrible when team in front of them struggled.

708
00:29:04,359 --> 00:29:06,799
He struggled on the penalty kill. I think Matthew Darch

709
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,799
came in and said we need to do responsible defensively.

710
00:29:08,839 --> 00:29:10,480
I think that's going to be a huge point of

711
00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:12,960
emphasis for him and for Patrick Watt's staff. Whoever is

712
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,839
Sydney Colgan is going to be and that's only going

713
00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:16,799
to benefit Sarrocan. So I think, Yeah, I think you're

714
00:29:16,839 --> 00:29:19,200
going to see much higher goals saved about average. You

715
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,519
think you're going to see a bounce back for him

716
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:21,599
on the penalty kill, and I think you're going to

717
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:22,880
see it that I'm not saying his name is going

718
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,599
to be in the VESNA combo, but I think he's

719
00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:26,640
going to get back to those elite elite numbers in

720
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,240
all strengths and that'll help you on and then I

721
00:29:28,279 --> 00:29:31,039
think that makes a strong fantasy option going for I'm

722
00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:32,440
not saying the defense and is going to be much

723
00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:35,079
change the guy locked into contracts the RFAs are expected

724
00:29:35,119 --> 00:29:36,720
to get deals back, but I think you see a

725
00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:39,240
more structurally sound team and from him that just should

726
00:29:39,319 --> 00:29:42,160
benefit him.

727
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, there's definitely a lot to be excited

728
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,400
about for Sorocan and hopefully, like you said, the team

729
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,519
around it will get a little bit better. I wanted

730
00:29:50,519 --> 00:29:53,240
to ask you a little bit about the draft because,

731
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,160
as we all know, the Islanders got lucky and went

732
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,359
up to the top of the draft board, so that's

733
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,119
pretty exciting. There have been rumors that maybe they would

734
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,440
slide back because taking Hagen's at one, which is the

735
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,519
hometown boy, is maybe a little wild. I think that

736
00:30:09,759 --> 00:30:11,839
the most likely thing is they probably just take Schaeffer

737
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,119
or Misa. But I'm wondering what your thoughts on all

738
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,920
of that are, and do you think they actually go

739
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:16,880
with the hometown kid.

740
00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think just going from organizational need. When

741
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,000
I said Dobson was the number two, everyone thought he'd

742
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,359
be a number one, and that changes things. And I

743
00:30:24,359 --> 00:30:26,319
think Schaeffer is the guy to get the honors need.

744
00:30:26,359 --> 00:30:28,200
I'm not saying you the generational talent or he's a

745
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,200
cal mccarr or a Quinn Hughes, but games like Mirohaskin.

746
00:30:32,359 --> 00:30:34,599
But also he's a game changer, he's a captain, he's

747
00:30:34,759 --> 00:30:36,039
a guy you want to build a front of the run.

748
00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:38,039
You can see him holding the cup, right, So I

749
00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:39,880
think for the Islanders. They need that number one guy,

750
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,319
and if they believe that he can be that guy,

751
00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:43,640
you gotta take him. I'm not too high on Lisa

752
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,440
in the sense of it. If it's Misa or Higgin's,

753
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,480
I would take Hagen's because Hagen's is most valuab to

754
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,680
the Islanders in any other franchise from business standpoint marketing.

755
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,680
And also I do think Hagen's has been severely underrated

756
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,839
throughout this whole process. He was number one for a while,

757
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,440
he dropped down, but to be a point per game

758
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,720
player at the NCAA at the age of he is tremendous.

759
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:00,519
Speaker 5: No one talking about it.

760
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:02,359
Speaker 4: I'm not saying you take him at number one, but

761
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,079
I don't understand how people are saying he could fall

762
00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:06,200
to eight or nine whatever.

763
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,359
Speaker 5: I think that's absolutely crazy. I think the guy Hagen's

764
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:08,759
the guy to.

765
00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:11,119
Speaker 4: Have at my mindset is also, if Higgins wants to

766
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:12,759
be an Islander at some point in his current he

767
00:31:12,839 --> 00:31:14,680
really wants to be an Islander, there's waste for him

768
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,400
to be an Islander. If you don't pick shafferd There's

769
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,279
no way Shapers can end up being an Islander. So

770
00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:20,039
I think Shaffer's got to get. They need that kind

771
00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:23,359
of puck moving, mobile power play. One guy just this

772
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,240
offensive machine that's also responsible defense than Shafer is a

773
00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:29,519
pk er out there, trustworthy minutes late in games. So

774
00:31:29,559 --> 00:31:31,599
I think Shafefer the gotta get. We'll see if he's

775
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,039
ready for the NHL or if he has to go

776
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,799
play back in juniors or for me, I personally would

777
00:31:35,839 --> 00:31:38,440
rather see him go play NCAA hockey against men. Maybe

778
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,480
it's less games in terms of schedule, but I think

779
00:31:40,519 --> 00:31:42,119
he needs to develop against the big boys.

780
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 5: He's shown.

781
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,799
Speaker 4: I know it's only been seventy two or so games

782
00:31:44,839 --> 00:31:46,599
at the OEHL level over the last couple of years,

783
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,920
but I think what's best room is go to the

784
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,680
NCAA route. But I think for the Islanders, you get

785
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,480
a guy like that is on your blue line and

786
00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:53,359
you have him and Dobbs and potentially is a pairing

787
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,400
for years to come. I think that's a huge thing

788
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,519
for the Honors and something they really need going forward.

789
00:31:57,599 --> 00:31:59,440
But Haiggin's also I don't think they're going to trade

790
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,559
the pick. Like I said, if Higgins wants me an Islander,

791
00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:03,079
I think there's ways to work it. Maybe they move

792
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:03,759
up in the draft.

793
00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:04,559
Speaker 2: And they take.

794
00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 4: Number one, and they find a way to trade and

795
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,680
get back into the top five and take Higgins there.

796
00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 5: But I think Schaffer's have got to get for sure.

797
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,319
Speaker 2: All right, Stefan, this has been a great talk about

798
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:17,519
the New York Islanders. Tell people how to find all

799
00:32:17,559 --> 00:32:18,400
your stuff out there.

800
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 5: Hey can follow me on Twitter X.

801
00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 4: That's Stephan Underscore, Rosna's s T E F E n

802
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Underscore r sn R NHL dot com the hockey as

803
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:29,319
well in the Lmonters. Theelmonters dot com is my weekly

804
00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:31,319
Monday through Friday substacks. I appreciate it, guys.

805
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: All right, thanks Stefan, and good luck following the Islanders

806
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,000
this year.

807
00:32:39,759 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 3: Than Wilson.

808
00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:51,039
Speaker 6: That's good fire Pats my goodness, long with a cat

809
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:51,920
quick graph.

810
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,839
Speaker 2: Now it's your weekly goalie talk. But Kat Silverman, Cat's.

811
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,359
Speaker 3: In pleased to be joined once again by Kat Sullverman

812
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,960
of ngal mag. We're talking Islander goalies, and we're talking

813
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,000
maybe someone that is a little surprising to some. That's

814
00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:15,000
Marcus Gidlof. He's sixty six, two twenty three pounds, drafted

815
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,359
in the fifth round in twenty twenty four, and this

816
00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:24,000
was his first season playing professional hockey. He did split

817
00:33:24,079 --> 00:33:26,759
his time between the J twenty and the SHL. Naturally

818
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,720
did a bit better in the SAHL or in the

819
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:34,359
j twenty, but respectable numbers in the SAHL. Got loan

820
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,960
to JR Gardens during the qualification playoffs and had two

821
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:40,000
pretty incredible wins that did actually help the team get promoted,

822
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:44,359
and he should be back with Alexan's next season. He

823
00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:47,400
is funny on hockey prospecting, they have these comps and

824
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,720
he was naturally the one that showed up when I

825
00:33:49,799 --> 00:33:52,079
went to go look he had. It was him and

826
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:55,920
Jacob Markstrm was actually the one that Byron over there

827
00:33:56,079 --> 00:33:57,920
was promoting, which is funny. So that would be a

828
00:33:58,279 --> 00:34:02,960
great outcome. Obviously were the Islanders. But Kat, what your

829
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,359
instincts tell us about Gidloff.

830
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 6: That's a really fun comp especially because everything I saw

831
00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:13,360
on Gidloff, like every clip I watched, every game that

832
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,519
he was playing. He's huge, but he doesn't play like

833
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:20,360
he is and that reminds me a lot of Jacob Markstrom,

834
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,440
who I think, by the time he hit the end

835
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,079
of his tenure with the Vancouver Canucks, had settled into

836
00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:29,320
a little bit of a slower rhythm, But when he

837
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,039
first started playing over in North America, particularly with the

838
00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:35,599
Florida Panthers and then moving his way up to Vancouver

839
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,559
to play with their AHL team, really had a tendency

840
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:43,119
to be a little bit more active when it came

841
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,000
to challenging shooters, moving around within the blue paint, moving

842
00:34:47,079 --> 00:34:49,719
laterally within his crease. A lot of the bigger goaltenders,

843
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,000
pardon me, that we've talked about, especially in the past,

844
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:55,440
with some of the other teams that have still seemed

845
00:34:55,519 --> 00:34:58,159
to draft kids for size. It seems like those guys

846
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:03,800
have good position and good tracking instincts, but then the

847
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,400
biggest thing that they need to do is work on

848
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,159
their agility. Gidloff is a little bit more mobile than that.

849
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,519
Without going all the way in the direction of get

850
00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:15,719
Mad Soguard, who for as much fun as he is

851
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,800
to watch, can be a little unpredictable, not just for

852
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,199
shooters but for his own teammates, and Gidlof seems like

853
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:24,519
he's a little bit more controllable and a little bit

854
00:35:24,559 --> 00:35:26,880
more controlled with his movements, so he's a little bit

855
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,000
easier for his teammates to work around and work with

856
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,880
versus them having to stay a little bit farther away

857
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,840
from the crease and then see if they can predict

858
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,800
what his vibe is going to be during that game,

859
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,239
so to speak, which should make him an easy transition

860
00:35:41,519 --> 00:35:45,239
if the Islanders decide that he is their next big thing,

861
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,360
because they are eventually going to need to have another

862
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:52,000
young goaltender in there in their system who becomes their

863
00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:55,280
heir apparent, which I would say is probably coming within

864
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,360
the next three or four years.

865
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 3: Here, do you think still go Love has starter upside

866
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,440
if he ends up moving to a different organization, I

867
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:10,039
think so nice like that, Let's talk about the other

868
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:12,960
guy they have, Dimitri Gamzen six three hundred and seventy

869
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,440
four pounds, drafted in the fourth round in twenty twenty

870
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,239
four as a double overrager. He's now twenty two year old,

871
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,480
and in my opinion, this is the way to do it.

872
00:36:20,519 --> 00:36:22,119
Wait until they was a little bit older, they've shown

873
00:36:22,159 --> 00:36:24,440
a little bit more, and then draft them. That works

874
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,599
out often pretty well. And he's played a little bit

875
00:36:27,639 --> 00:36:29,920
more this season in the KHL. Back in twenty three

876
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,519
twenty four, he had thirteen KHL games. He had eleven

877
00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:35,320
more this season up to twenty four and he was

878
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,039
good nine to thirty seven save percentage previous season nine

879
00:36:38,039 --> 00:36:41,119
to twenty eight save percentage. All that's looking pretty good

880
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,199
looking at his hockey prospecting. His trajectory has really gone

881
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,320
up in his draft season. I guess that's understandable why

882
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,360
he didn't get drafted. His equivalence he was extremely low,

883
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,280
but then after a couple of seasons he's shot up

884
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,119
and now he's all the way up to eighty five

885
00:36:54,159 --> 00:36:57,039
percent chance of being an NHL AER, and his trajectory

886
00:36:57,119 --> 00:36:59,880
looks a lot like Nikolay Habbibulin. So there you go.

887
00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:03,440
That's great. Comp Kay, what your instincts tell us about Gamzon.

888
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 6: I think he did a good job waiting on him.

889
00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:09,639
I decided, just out of curiosity to go back and

890
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,119
watch some older games of his from when he got

891
00:37:13,199 --> 00:37:15,440
passed over the first time, and then a few from

892
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,159
when he got passed over the second time, just to

893
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:24,280
figure out because obviously there's a fine line where if

894
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,280
you wait too long and you draft them as a

895
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,960
double overrager, some of those kids end up looking so

896
00:37:30,159 --> 00:37:34,440
much better, but haven't changed who they're playing against, and

897
00:37:34,639 --> 00:37:37,480
so of course their stats are starting to look better

898
00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:41,280
and better. But particularly the kids who are playing in

899
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:46,840
a junior league versus playing in the KHL, which is

900
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,519
something that we don't have to worry about as much

901
00:37:48,559 --> 00:37:51,039
with him. Obviously, by the time they're a double overrager,

902
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,639
they're playing against sixteen and seventeen year olds, which they'd

903
00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:56,880
better look better at that point. And really the biggest

904
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,519
thing with him that I was looking for was what

905
00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:02,000
he was missing in his game, because he's been playing

906
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:06,239
some KHL games here and there and getting called up

907
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,360
to the team since his first draft eligible season, and

908
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,400
it really looks like the biggest concern, and this might

909
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,239
still be a concern for him, is his physical size.

910
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,719
And I don't necessarily mean his height, but in terms

911
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:25,320
of his strength and stature, he is not necessarily built

912
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:32,239
to withstain really long, heavy workload seasons and sometimes during

913
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,960
games where it looks like he was having to work

914
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,960
a little bit more, he was fatiguing by the end,

915
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,320
and it looks like he's added a little bit of

916
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,840
bulk he is, definitely and even just looking at some

917
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,039
of the hard numbers that we have here on the screen,

918
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,519
he's currently listed at six three hundred and seventy four pounds.

919
00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:51,119
I believe his draft eligible year he was listed when

920
00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:54,199
fifty five one sixty, which for a six three kid

921
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,320
is you have to add a little bit more, a

922
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,559
little bit more muscle.

923
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,559
Speaker 5: To make it through a season at that size, and

924
00:39:00,679 --> 00:39:01,679
it looks like he's done so.

925
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 6: But for him it would be conditioning because I think

926
00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:08,559
his movement looks good. I think his tracking looks pretty good.

927
00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:14,159
So it really was for me just figuring out if

928
00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:18,039
he's someone who is going to be able to withstand

929
00:39:18,039 --> 00:39:21,519
the riggers against the harder opponents essentially, and it looks

930
00:39:21,559 --> 00:39:23,039
like he's been able to do so that's less of

931
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:25,480
a concern now it's seeing if he wants to come

932
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:26,000
over and play.

933
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 3: I'd have a great mentor if he does come over

934
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,000
and get mentored by Srokean, So that's probably a pretty

935
00:39:33,039 --> 00:39:35,639
big appeal. But thanks so much, Kat for convince your

936
00:39:35,679 --> 00:39:38,920
instincts on the New York Islander Goalies, of course.

937
00:39:40,039 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: Will be back right after this Dig the Dynasty Dig

938
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,639
New York Edition, Victor. This system ain't too bad by

939
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,760
your accountings, also not that great. It'll get a lot

940
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,840
better once this number one overall pick shows up right now.

941
00:40:11,199 --> 00:40:14,119
I'm sorry, it's the number twenty system in your rankings

942
00:40:14,199 --> 00:40:16,760
doesn't mean there aren't some good players in here, though

943
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,440
it starts with a no brainer.

944
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 4: Who is it?

945
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 3: That would be Cole Isserman twenty twenty four to twentieth

946
00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:26,079
overall pick six foote hundred ninety six pounds. He will

947
00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:28,800
be nineteen at the end of August. He had his

948
00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:34,119
first NCAA season after his USNTDP tour, where he broke

949
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,880
records for his goal scoring. It was pretty fantastic over

950
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,880
a goal per game at the USNTDP. He also was

951
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,920
on the uaighteen team and the U twenty team this

952
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,079
past season with some pretty important goals and all the

953
00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:49,559
guy does iscore goals right. He also was with BU

954
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,400
who lost in the championship game. And I think one

955
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,719
of the criticisms with Cole Eiserman has always been what

956
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,159
does he do away from the puck? And I don't

957
00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:00,119
think that could be any more clear than it if

958
00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:03,840
you look at Mitch Brown's player card Forcalizomen, because typically

959
00:41:04,519 --> 00:41:07,800
when things are above average, they're blue, and the better

960
00:41:08,039 --> 00:41:11,679
above average the darker, and when they're worse, they're red.

961
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,320
And his whole card is basically red except for one thing,

962
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,639
which is shooting, and we know he can shoot, we

963
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,280
know he can score, but everything else is really not great,

964
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,639
even his playmaking, his expected primary syst his transition game,

965
00:41:26,159 --> 00:41:30,719
his retrievals, corsi, all of that battles one. It's pretty

966
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,039
awful actually when you look at this. So that's a

967
00:41:33,079 --> 00:41:36,079
big concern and part of why I don't have him

968
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,000
higher if HL player card has him at a six

969
00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:42,639
point sixty three. I recognize the offensive skill. I recognize

970
00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:45,000
that he certainly can't put the puck in the net,

971
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:48,679
but I think his opportunities may be limited if he

972
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,880
can't figure out a better two way game, which I

973
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,519
know it's something he's working on. It's just not there yet.

974
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,360
Looking at his bash, he definitely shoots a lot. He

975
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,199
actually hits quite a lot if he's had and be

976
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:03,320
a little bit more aggressive, hits at times and can

977
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,760
get penalized for that. But overall his bash should be

978
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,559
pretty good, primarily driven by his shots and hits. He

979
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,000
also is pretty average for pims if you're interested in

980
00:42:13,079 --> 00:42:14,920
that kind of thing. But let's hear a little bit more.

981
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:17,840
Get some other opinions about coalizermen from our Fratil scout

982
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,480
Jesse who.

983
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 2: Needs is here today to talk about Coalizerman skating acceleration

984
00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:27,519
improved at bu showing more consistent engagement with and without

985
00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:30,559
the puck. Stride length and posture can look awkward under

986
00:42:30,599 --> 00:42:33,000
pressure at times. Does well to carry paces through the

987
00:42:33,039 --> 00:42:37,079
neutral zone, especially when tracking loose pucks or cutting inside.

988
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:41,119
Needs more explosiveness in his first few steps to truly

989
00:42:41,199 --> 00:42:45,119
punish defenders in transition, passing and handling. Elite hands in

990
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:48,400
tight manipulates defenders and goalies with minimal space and time

991
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,199
prefers the shot, but can flash deceptive touch on quick

992
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,559
area passes and give and go plays. Puck control on

993
00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:59,280
the rush is excellent. Attacks defenders one on one with confidence,

994
00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:03,960
aly over handles leading to turnovers or missed opportunities. While

995
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,719
not a primary playmaker, his ability to attract pressure and

996
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,679
then dish it could make him deadly have developed further.

997
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,880
Shooting among the best pure shooters in the pipeline. Elite mechanics,

998
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,480
quick release and deception, shooting scores in every situation off

999
00:43:19,519 --> 00:43:22,679
the rush, out balance one timers in tight mid range

1000
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:27,000
curls and drags. Occasionally forces low percentage shots instead of resetting,

1001
00:43:27,159 --> 00:43:31,719
especially when trailing. He's already got a pro caliber shot package,

1002
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,079
which is a rare trait at his age and a

1003
00:43:34,159 --> 00:43:38,719
strong fantasy signal. Pouni says that Eiserman has an offensive

1004
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,119
zone IQ, which is excellent. He times his movements well

1005
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,440
to stay available and maximize shooting windows. It's got a

1006
00:43:45,519 --> 00:43:49,920
scorer's mentality sometimes blinds him to better passing or reset options.

1007
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,079
He can be overly ambitious with the puck, especially in transition,

1008
00:43:56,639 --> 00:44:00,000
and gets caught forcing solo plays. When focused, he shows

1009
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,760
those signs of reading coverage, particularly on the power play.

1010
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,760
For checking, surprisingly competitive, shows real willingness to pressure defenders

1011
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,599
and win pucks below the goal line. Four checks with

1012
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,000
a scorer's intent looks to create turtlers immediately shoot or dish.

1013
00:44:15,159 --> 00:44:18,119
Could be even more disruptive with added skating pop and

1014
00:44:18,199 --> 00:44:22,880
stronger body lower body leverage defense end zone awareness is inconsistent.

1015
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,800
He can drift or misread coverage responsibilities. Has the physical

1016
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,719
tools to engage, but the defensive detail isn't yet a

1017
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,679
natural part of his game. He's willing to back check,

1018
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,159
but often cheats to cheats high to prepare for breakouts

1019
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,719
or rush chances. Still prone to turnovers in transition. Puck's

1020
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,280
security under pressure is an ongoing area of development, so

1021
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,880
the best asset eleitch shot generation, both in quantity and

1022
00:44:48,039 --> 00:44:51,679
in quality, a rare blend of hands instincts finishing for

1023
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,000
multiple areas in the eyes doesn't need time or space

1024
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:57,960
to be dangerous, generates offense from low probability spots others can't.

1025
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,280
He's a sniper's mentality. This level of natural scoring touches

1026
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,840
what teams and fantasy managers covet at the NHL level.

1027
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,760
He's embraced more of this role at BUS, suggesting a

1028
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,320
growing maturity in his game. The biggest concern still learning

1029
00:45:12,519 --> 00:45:15,880
when to make simple plays instead of chasing highlight reel moments.

1030
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,360
The skating needs another gear to match NHL transition pace

1031
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,320
and with stand tighter coverage. Lacks a reliable defensive conscious

1032
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,519
at this stage, prone to puck watching or missed assignments,

1033
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,039
can be turnover prone under pressure or when frustrated. Decision

1034
00:45:31,079 --> 00:45:36,679
making under duress can show immaturity at times. Overall needs

1035
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,480
refinement and situational awareness and play selection, but offensive instincts

1036
00:45:40,519 --> 00:45:43,159
are elite. So the top tier outcome thirty five plus

1037
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:47,400
goal scoring, first line winger, powerplay one deployment, top six stability.

1038
00:45:48,119 --> 00:45:51,320
That would be if he rounds out his playmaking and

1039
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,039
learns to make quicker, smarter reads, ceiling could push even higher.

1040
00:45:55,559 --> 00:46:01,079
The style mits fits modern NHL scoring needs the fiftieth

1041
00:46:01,159 --> 00:46:05,639
percentile outcome. Strong top six guy situational weapon sheltered at

1042
00:46:05,639 --> 00:46:09,280
even strength, deployed in offensive starts and special teams could

1043
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,880
still bring value as a volume shooter in that situation.

1044
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,719
The stylistic comparable think Cole Kawfield with a bit more

1045
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,880
size and less finesse. A volume scorer always has goals

1046
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,800
on his mind, shades of Mike Hoffman in terms of

1047
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,960
the powerplay role and shot first identity. At his best,

1048
00:46:26,039 --> 00:46:28,440
he can be a trigger man floating into space, catching

1049
00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:32,920
passes and stride and finishing. Mason Black, the NHL Rankking

1050
00:46:33,119 --> 00:46:37,039
and tidy Champion, put out this poll Cole Aiserman versus

1051
00:46:37,159 --> 00:46:41,440
Matthew Savoy, and Iiserman wins in a landslide seventy five

1052
00:46:41,519 --> 00:46:42,480
to twenty five percent.

1053
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 3: Is that how you see it?

1054
00:46:44,559 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 5: Victor?

1055
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 3: This is a poll between two guys that I don't

1056
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,280
really love that much. Just so I think I would

1057
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,119
probably duck and run a different direction if I could.

1058
00:46:55,519 --> 00:46:58,079
But I do think between these two. I probably would

1059
00:46:58,119 --> 00:47:03,199
take Cole Iiserman as an elite one skill. I think

1060
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,800
he's someone who might be a little pigeonholed in terms

1061
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,800
of where he fits, but I think that he clearly

1062
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,280
has something that his shot that is elite and can

1063
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,039
be groomed. I'm sure the rest of his game can

1064
00:47:16,119 --> 00:47:19,159
be worked on. He doesn't have other concerns. I think

1065
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,199
Cole Coffield is probably a reasonable comp in terms of

1066
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,920
He's not as small, but he's also not as Neither

1067
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,760
of those guys are really great defensively. Cole's a little

1068
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,079
bit maybe more, has a little bit more speed, but

1069
00:47:32,119 --> 00:47:35,440
Iiserman's a little bit more physical. Neither of those guys

1070
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,599
are winning Selky trophies, but they do have that elite shot.

1071
00:47:38,679 --> 00:47:41,800
So I think I would probably lean Isserman Savoy. He's

1072
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,760
so interesting. All along, I have been saying that there's concerns.

1073
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,679
I haven't thought that he'd be able to translate his

1074
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,760
game super well, although I have to say I was

1075
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,360
really impressed with his fifty four points and sixty six

1076
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,400
games for the Bakersfield Connors this season, and so that

1077
00:47:56,599 --> 00:47:59,199
has to count for something, and so I definitely think

1078
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,280
he's turning things around, but I think he might end

1079
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,559
up just being by a fifty to sixty point NHL

1080
00:48:03,639 --> 00:48:05,679
or maybe more of a middle to bottom six even

1081
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,840
so we'll have to see about that. I'm taking cool eijermen,

1082
00:48:09,519 --> 00:48:13,000
and between these two, the hockey prospecting is pretty even.

1083
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:15,320
Izerman in his second season is a fifty eight percent

1084
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,119
chance of being a star. Savoy graduated the model at

1085
00:48:18,159 --> 00:48:23,480
fifty percent, so pretty similar there. The FHL player card

1086
00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:25,440
for Savoy has him at a six point two five,

1087
00:48:26,039 --> 00:48:28,800
and so that's a pretty similar a little bit lower

1088
00:48:29,199 --> 00:48:34,920
percentage of on the percent side than Isserman, and neither

1089
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,079
Savoy doesn't have really good bash either, so his block

1090
00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:40,239
shots and hits are all pretty low, so you're getting

1091
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,840
a low perpheral ceiling there or peripheryl floor from Savoy.

1092
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,639
Looking at some other realistic comps, I like the Col

1093
00:48:47,679 --> 00:48:50,920
cough Field looking at another any guy from the usn TDP.

1094
00:48:51,159 --> 00:48:53,440
Clayton Keller is someone that Eiserman looks a little bit

1095
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,199
alike in this model, and so I think that would

1096
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,840
not be an unreasonable outcome in terms of point production, No,

1097
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,599
in terms of overall actor player, and I think as

1098
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,440
Clayton color is just an amazing playmaker compared to Kolijerman,

1099
00:49:05,519 --> 00:49:08,639
who might not even be NHL average. So that's something

1100
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,920
to think about. In the top down hockey model, Coalijerman

1101
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,159
sixty nine percent chance of being a star, ninety five

1102
00:49:14,159 --> 00:49:16,599
percent chance of being an NHL are so very optimistic

1103
00:49:16,679 --> 00:49:19,519
there in terms of his outcome. I'm a little less

1104
00:49:19,559 --> 00:49:23,360
optimistic than j Fresh, which is pretty unusual. Jesse.

1105
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. All right, Victor, the next guy up,

1106
00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:31,719
this is this is a big one.

1107
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:32,039
Speaker 3: Victor.

1108
00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:34,159
Speaker 2: I called this guy out during the draft. He's a

1109
00:49:34,199 --> 00:49:37,760
good Wisconsin kid. He was a point scorer at the

1110
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,920
World Junior Championships. I like to think I'm a fan

1111
00:49:41,679 --> 00:49:45,519
of this year player and the envelope. Please, who is

1112
00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:46,639
the need to know prospect?

1113
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 3: This would be Quinn Finley. I almost said I was

1114
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,159
looking at a different Finley, I almost said to him,

1115
00:49:54,199 --> 00:49:58,000
but no, hiss Quinn Finley. And he is, as you mentioned,

1116
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,320
a badger he was last season. This season he was

1117
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,239
a twenty twenty two third round pick from the Islanders.

1118
00:50:07,079 --> 00:50:09,440
Six foot hundred and sevent nine pounds left wing. He's

1119
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,960
really young for his draft class. He's an August eighth birthday,

1120
00:50:13,039 --> 00:50:15,880
so when he was drafted. He was back in the USHL.

1121
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,199
He spent a couple of seasons there before coming to

1122
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,360
college and it didn't go super well. His first year

1123
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,320
in college just round half point per game, a little

1124
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,079
bit under that, but this season he exploded for over

1125
00:50:25,159 --> 00:50:27,400
a point per game forty points and thirty seven games,

1126
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,920
turning heads from everyone. His FHL player card has him

1127
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,159
show showing that he's a volume shooter one hundred percentile

1128
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,239
for shots, also has a fair number of hits and

1129
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,800
pretty average for blocks, so overall his bash should be

1130
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,360
really good. And I have updated his numbers to be

1131
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,280
a five point five to five, so going from not

1132
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,880
really rosterble to being an average roster player. So that's

1133
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,960
pretty good. But let's hear a little bit more about

1134
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,039
what makes quin Finley good from OURFHL scout.

1135
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 2: Our scout Tony our leed scout has this to say

1136
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,519
about Quinn Finley. Good skater, a little bit upright Tony

1137
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,039
passing and handling, a decent passer, average handler. Did see

1138
00:51:04,079 --> 00:51:06,639
some improvement between the two games he watched early season

1139
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,159
and end of season. An Elite shot has Quinn Finley

1140
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,079
great slap shot, snapshot and risk shot for the IQ

1141
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,280
Quinn's got a good hockey IQ. That's vision, anticipation, panic,

1142
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,440
and poise. He lacks a little vision to find teammates,

1143
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,519
but as anticipation to get his own shot off, poise

1144
00:51:24,639 --> 00:51:27,039
is very good. Plays the point on the power play

1145
00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:30,159
for Wisconsin. That shows a lot of trust from the coach.

1146
00:51:30,679 --> 00:51:33,159
Didn't see much for checking and as far as the

1147
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,079
defense doesn't really foresee that Quinn Finley will be a

1148
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,679
penalty kill specialist. At least saw no evidence of doing

1149
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,840
that at Wisconsin, so Toner doesn't have much of a

1150
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,280
read on that. But overall, the best asset, once again

1151
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,320
Tony says, is the shot, and the biggest concern is

1152
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,760
that Quinn is a little bit of a smaller player.

1153
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,800
He probably will not give us a whole ton in

1154
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,159
the way of bash according to Tony's looks. But the

1155
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,760
top tier outcome Tier two probably a top six to

1156
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,360
Foard power play time, I'm in the NHL with a

1157
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,039
lethal shot. He can hit corners and create his own

1158
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,719
and the median outcome tier three an extra forward with

1159
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,559
spot duty random chances on power play two, and that

1160
00:52:11,679 --> 00:52:15,280
would happen because Toner doesn't see as much from the

1161
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,280
passing and as much from the bash and overall, Quinn

1162
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,159
reminds Tony of a less Bashie Tyler Bertuzzi. But if

1163
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,199
Quinn can improve his skating and the peripheral numbers came around,

1164
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:32,079
he could be a valuable NHL player. The NHL ranking

1165
00:52:32,159 --> 00:52:35,239
poll went out to the people on X and Quin

1166
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,519
Finley up against Justin Pourier, and Finley, Oh was way

1167
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:41,599
on the short side of this one, seventy four to

1168
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,159
twenty six. Victor is Poia that much better?

1169
00:52:46,519 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 3: Justin Poirier certainly has a lot more scoring, but he

1170
00:52:51,519 --> 00:52:53,800
is five foot nine, so he's got that little guy

1171
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:58,400
problem that certainly matters to a lot of NHL teams,

1172
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,360
and as they're breaking in it can be a lot harder,

1173
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,000
so he has a tougher hill to climb. Qui Finley

1174
00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:05,239
being six foot, one hundred and eighty pounds not a

1175
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,920
huge deal. So I think a lot of people are

1176
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,159
probably looking at the PNHLI here, which looks a lot

1177
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,239
higher for Poirie, and they're thinking there's a little bit

1178
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,119
more scoring. But I think that's a little unrealistic to

1179
00:53:16,199 --> 00:53:19,360
assume he's going to translate that fully, and he is.

1180
00:53:19,639 --> 00:53:21,800
He did do great in the Q eighty points and

1181
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,639
fifty eight games for BA Como, and he is going

1182
00:53:25,679 --> 00:53:28,360
off to the NCUBA next season University of Maine. That

1183
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,360
will be a good test, bigger, stronger, tougher competition. We'll

1184
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,119
see if Paray can make it work. I do have

1185
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,119
some faith that he can translate at least some of that.

1186
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,760
I'm not sure that he's going to be that high

1187
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,920
of a scorer, though, so I think if I had

1188
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,800
to pick between the two, I'm taking the guy who's

1189
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,119
already a point per game scorer. In the NCUBLEA, I'm

1190
00:53:44,119 --> 00:53:46,760
taking Quinn Finley. I'm going against the people here and

1191
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,400
I'm going with Finlay. Personally, I think that you might

1192
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,519
be a little disappointed seeing how difficult a time Quarrey has.

1193
00:53:54,599 --> 00:53:56,400
I'm moving for him. I hope it works out. I'm

1194
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,480
just not very confident. Looking at the hockey prospecting between

1195
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,360
the two, Finley graduated the model at zero percent chance

1196
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,119
of being a star, which is harsh. Pray trended down

1197
00:54:05,159 --> 00:54:07,320
from fifteen to six percent. We'll see what happens in

1198
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,199
the nc DOUABLEA next season. I think he might take

1199
00:54:09,199 --> 00:54:12,480
another big hit on his way down. I also have

1200
00:54:12,639 --> 00:54:15,239
Pirey at a five point three six, so just a

1201
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,000
little bit under the five point five to five I

1202
00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:20,239
had for Finley. Both kind of similar. I think it's

1203
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,599
pretty clear to me that Parray's upside is higher, but

1204
00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:24,400
I think the floor is also way lower, and so

1205
00:54:24,519 --> 00:54:27,039
Finley might have a more narrow margin in terms of

1206
00:54:27,119 --> 00:54:29,199
where he works out, but I'd be more confident in

1207
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,559
betting on him. Looking at some other comps for Quin Finley,

1208
00:54:32,599 --> 00:54:35,440
we're just talking about Anders Lee, and this could if

1209
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,920
this could be another example of and honors. Lee was

1210
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,159
drafted out of high school and he went to the

1211
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,119
USHL for one year and then the NC DOUBLEA. But

1212
00:54:42,159 --> 00:54:44,800
the numbers are similar in the trajectory. And the other

1213
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,159
reason I picked him is because pretty much everyone else

1214
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,159
is just a replacement level or bust. So trying to

1215
00:54:50,199 --> 00:54:53,039
get some optimism here for Quin Finley. Looking at the

1216
00:54:53,519 --> 00:54:56,679
top down hockey model from j Fresh is not in

1217
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,280
place to find optimism for Quin Finley because he has

1218
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,079
just one percent chance of being a star and four

1219
00:55:01,159 --> 00:55:03,199
percent chance of being in NHL or so. It's pretty

1220
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,880
bleak there, Jesse. But I think that there's more optimism

1221
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,559
than that for this guy, and I think that if

1222
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,559
might be a good by low or it might be

1223
00:55:10,599 --> 00:55:13,360
a good lottery ticket to throw. Throw a pick at

1224
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,719
here at quin Finley GM in your league and see

1225
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:16,119
what he says.

1226
00:55:16,679 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got time with Chicago Steel and then Ushl

1227
00:55:20,679 --> 00:55:24,639
more Chicago Steele and then obviously Wisconsin and again go

1228
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,000
and assist at the World Juniors where the USA won.

1229
00:55:28,679 --> 00:55:31,239
Moving on Victor, who is to keep your eye on prospect?

1230
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,800
I think we've heard the name already today.

1231
00:55:35,039 --> 00:55:37,679
Speaker 3: Dark Callum Ritchie. We've talked about him a little bit,

1232
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,719
talk about him a little more. Twenty twenty three, twenty

1233
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,639
seventh overall pick for Colorado sixty two, one hundred ninety pounds,

1234
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,840
and he's in the center. He's twenty years old now.

1235
00:55:46,199 --> 00:55:48,119
He came to the Island of the brock Nelson trade,

1236
00:55:48,199 --> 00:55:51,280
played seven games for the Avalanche. As I mentioned, Stephan

1237
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,360
reminded us no one goal he did score was against

1238
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,360
the Roka And that's fun. I guess he can always

1239
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,440
hold that over his head, which not a lot of

1240
00:55:57,639 --> 00:56:00,360
guys can say. So that's fun. And he did go

1241
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,000
back to another season for the Oshwad Generals, lost in

1242
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,920
the AHL finals again to the London Knights, although he

1243
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,159
did all he could twenty five points in twenty games,

1244
00:56:09,559 --> 00:56:13,000
twenty one games. Sorry, all looked really good there, Like Manny,

1245
00:56:13,039 --> 00:56:15,599
Canadians didn't have the best U twenty World Junior Championship.

1246
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:18,239
But looking at his FHL player card, it looks sorry.

1247
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,239
His Mitch Brown tracking data, it looks awesome. Ninety second

1248
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,320
overall percentage, ninety for offense, ninety for transition, seventy four

1249
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,280
for defense. Everything's looking really great for him. There's only

1250
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,320
a couple of minor things that don't look amazing, like

1251
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,960
ozone retrievals and slot pass percent but everything else expected

1252
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:39,960
primary assists, inspected goals, control exits, entries, protection, boards of

1253
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,119
the middle, advantages created. All that looks phenomenal for Calimbracy,

1254
00:56:43,199 --> 00:56:45,920
really complete player in the O. We'll see how well

1255
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,360
he can do translating that to the NHL. I like

1256
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,800
what Stephan said, give him some installation, give him so

1257
00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:54,000
put him down in the lineup, let him get some

1258
00:56:54,039 --> 00:56:56,599
more favorable matchups and watch him blossom. And I think

1259
00:56:56,679 --> 00:56:58,039
that's the right play he can do that. I think

1260
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:01,199
eventually he can be a second line player, but probably

1261
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:02,960
won't start that way, and that might be a good

1262
00:57:03,199 --> 00:57:06,199
opportunity to throw an offer at a GM if he's frustrated.

1263
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,760
Looking at the FHL player card, I have Richie had

1264
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,880
a six point seventy five seventy five percent chance of

1265
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,920
being a six. His shots are ninetieth percentile, His bash

1266
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,119
overall is an eightieth percentile hit. Some blocks are above average,

1267
00:57:17,159 --> 00:57:19,480
so everything, oh in all pretty good peripheral floor at

1268
00:57:19,559 --> 00:57:21,960
least based on his OHL time, we'll see. I don't

1269
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,480
think it was quite that good in the NHL, but

1270
00:57:23,519 --> 00:57:26,320
those were his first seven games, so give him some grace.

1271
00:57:26,679 --> 00:57:28,920
Let's switch over to our FHL scout and hear a

1272
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,599
little bit more about Calum Ritchie.

1273
00:57:31,239 --> 00:57:33,239
Speaker 2: Who need is back on the case, and here's what

1274
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,360
he has to say about the skating. Smooth Northsile stride

1275
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,239
that's efficient and energy conserving. Top speed is solid, especially

1276
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,960
in open ice, but initial acceleration lacks pop. The lateral

1277
00:57:44,039 --> 00:57:48,280
mobility and edgework are decent but not elite, limits elusiveness

1278
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,119
in tight checking situations. Doesn't blow by defenders, but navigates

1279
00:57:52,159 --> 00:57:55,880
the ice with purpose and structure. Passing and handling. He

1280
00:57:56,239 --> 00:57:59,719
displays excellent vision does Richie, especially off the cycle in

1281
00:58:00,199 --> 00:58:04,599
controlled entries. Frequently draws and defenders before dishing to open teammates,

1282
00:58:04,639 --> 00:58:07,400
and it is a calculated risk taker handles the puck

1283
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:11,320
well under pressure, doesn't panic or overreact, not flashy in

1284
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:15,360
terms of dangles, but consistently effective and deceptive with his hands,

1285
00:58:15,639 --> 00:58:18,360
and uses his frame effectively to protect the puck while

1286
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:22,559
scanning for lanes. Shooting, he possesses an accurate shot and

1287
00:58:22,639 --> 00:58:25,519
putting says it beats goalies clean when he gets time

1288
00:58:25,559 --> 00:58:29,679
to load it up. He gets time. The release is

1289
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,679
clean and smooth, but not lightning quick. He tends to

1290
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,760
defer to the pass in high danger areas. More shooting

1291
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:40,000
confidence is needed. One timer's effective, especially on the power play,

1292
00:58:40,159 --> 00:58:43,480
just underutilized. Adding aggression and scoring areas would help out

1293
00:58:43,519 --> 00:58:47,239
his playmaking tendencies and elevate his overall threat level for

1294
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,159
the IQ. One of the most consistent strength. He plays

1295
00:58:50,199 --> 00:58:53,480
a thinking man's game across all three zones. He anticipates

1296
00:58:53,559 --> 00:58:56,519
play development on both sides of the puck, makes intelligent

1297
00:58:56,639 --> 00:59:00,920
reads off the puck, supports teammates, and adjusts position needs seamlessly.

1298
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,440
Calm under pressure, doesn't rush passes or collapse into poor

1299
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:09,159
habits when harassed for checking. He applies structured calculated pressure

1300
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:14,000
on opposing defenceman and is not reckless. Uses body positioning

1301
00:59:14,079 --> 00:59:17,599
and stick detail to disrupt exits and force soft plays.

1302
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,440
Effective at angling puck carriers and creating turnovers through reach

1303
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:26,000
and anticipation, can support a high motor winger by creating

1304
00:59:26,079 --> 00:59:30,159
secondary pressure and sealing off outlets. Defense Very responsible in

1305
00:59:30,239 --> 00:59:34,280
his own zone, Richie rarely loses structure or focus on

1306
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,119
the rush. Maintains middleized coverage, eliminates passing lanes. He's a

1307
00:59:38,159 --> 00:59:41,599
consistent backchecker, doesn't quit on plays or float high in

1308
00:59:41,679 --> 00:59:45,880
the zone. Projects as a plus defensive center with continued

1309
00:59:46,119 --> 00:59:50,199
physical development and pro pays adjustments. The best asset then

1310
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:54,119
high levels hockey sense and offensive vision that drives decision

1311
00:59:54,199 --> 00:59:56,960
making across all the zones. He thinks two or three

1312
00:59:57,039 --> 01:00:01,440
moves ahead. He supports structure, elevates line mates by moving

1313
01:00:01,519 --> 01:00:03,280
the puck at the right time to the right spot.

1314
01:00:03,679 --> 01:00:06,400
Has a great feel for time and in spacing, which

1315
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,199
makes him a natural center. Maturity in his reads and

1316
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:13,639
patients with the puck shows NHL habits already forming the

1317
01:00:13,679 --> 01:00:17,559
biggest concern. He lacks separation gear in his first few strides.

1318
01:00:17,679 --> 01:00:21,079
Acceleration is a half step slow doesn't have the lateral

1319
01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:24,079
pop to shake defenders in tight or on quick pivots.

1320
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,840
This gap could be exposed at the NHL pays, especially

1321
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,639
against faster aggressive for checks, and could limit his ability

1322
01:00:32,079 --> 01:00:34,880
to carry the puck through transition or chase down loose pucks.

1323
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:39,159
Top tier outcome here for Ritchie Punite says it is

1324
01:00:39,239 --> 01:00:42,239
a strong second line potential first line two way center

1325
01:00:42,519 --> 01:00:46,800
with power play utility and matchup usage. Perfect complimentary pivot

1326
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,760
to a high end winger duo. Doesn't need the spotlight

1327
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:50,840
to make an impact.

1328
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 3: The justification.

1329
01:00:52,719 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 2: He's got the NHL ready habits vision size to fit

1330
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,199
a versatile middle six mold. He can be trusted with

1331
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:04,159
tough assignments, late game shifts, penalty kill duties, and long

1332
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,159
term could become a player coaches rely on in all

1333
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,960
phases without needing to carry the offense. The media outcome

1334
01:01:11,159 --> 01:01:15,079
more realistic second liner potential middle sixer. He'll earn his

1335
01:01:15,239 --> 01:01:19,360
keep with Smart's reliability in zoom responsibility rather than just

1336
01:01:19,679 --> 01:01:23,039
raw tools. Could see penalty kill time spot power play

1337
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,039
depending on a team's depth. And that's because he's a

1338
01:01:26,119 --> 01:01:28,400
type of player who doesn't make ways, but he's missed

1339
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,000
when he's absent. As long as the skating doesn't become

1340
01:01:31,039 --> 01:01:34,039
a liability, he'll be a bottom six staple who doesn't

1341
01:01:34,119 --> 01:01:39,079
hurt you. Stylistic comparable punit's going Boone Jenner, a high

1342
01:01:39,119 --> 01:01:44,000
IQ center who leads by example. Our friend Mason Black.

1343
01:01:44,079 --> 01:01:47,679
The NHL rank king put cal Ritchie up against Daniel Boot,

1344
01:01:48,119 --> 01:01:52,920
who we discussed recently, and Richie ahead of Boot sixty

1345
01:01:53,039 --> 01:01:57,400
nine to thirty one percent. The Utah Mammoth goes down

1346
01:01:57,519 --> 01:02:00,280
to the New York Islander, Victor. Is that how you

1347
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:01,000
see things too?

1348
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 3: I do prefer Callum Ritchie to Daniel Boot. Yes, I

1349
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,639
like all those things that Punite said about him. I

1350
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,119
think it's pretty reasonable. I definitely think he's going to

1351
01:02:13,159 --> 01:02:16,280
be a reliable NHLer. I think the question for Richie

1352
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,639
is just how much scoring will there be? I don't

1353
01:02:18,679 --> 01:02:22,599
know about Boone Jenner. That would be awesome. The bash

1354
01:02:22,719 --> 01:02:24,480
is pretty good. That's the thing I always think about

1355
01:02:24,519 --> 01:02:27,599
with Jenner, right, is a bash being exceptional. So maybe

1356
01:02:27,639 --> 01:02:29,880
it can get to that point, certainly in terms of

1357
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,079
offensive output, I think that's a reasonable ceiling. I think

1358
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,840
Richie maybe even has upside for more than that. But

1359
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,320
I think I would definitely take Richie. It's pretty easy

1360
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,960
for me looking at the hockey prospecting between these two.

1361
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,400
They're actually similar in terms of they're both in like

1362
01:02:43,519 --> 01:02:46,639
around that ten percent chance of being a star. Both

1363
01:02:46,679 --> 01:02:49,239
seem pretty much locks to be nhller, that part's not

1364
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,719
too different. I have Boot at a six point four

1365
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,599
or five and Richie was a six point seventy five,

1366
01:02:54,639 --> 01:02:56,280
so a little bit higher in terms of the percentage,

1367
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,639
But I also think that Ritchie's upside is a little

1368
01:02:58,639 --> 01:03:01,639
bit higher than that. Looking at some other comps for Richie,

1369
01:03:02,039 --> 01:03:04,440
I don't hate the gender one. As I mentioned, the

1370
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,480
one I like here is Shane Pinto. I think that

1371
01:03:06,719 --> 01:03:09,840
Pento is a very responsible, good all around player with

1372
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,079
also a little bit more offensive pop than maybe you

1373
01:03:12,199 --> 01:03:14,840
might think, and I think that Richie can be that guy.

1374
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,199
They probably will ask him to do more defensive heavy

1375
01:03:18,239 --> 01:03:20,559
lifting early on, but I think eventually that skill will

1376
01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:22,760
be there and it can come out at the right time,

1377
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,599
which is great. So I definitely think if people are

1378
01:03:25,639 --> 01:03:27,519
down on Richie or thinking that he's not as good

1379
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,119
as he once thought, then might be good to send

1380
01:03:31,159 --> 01:03:33,559
an offer over there, especially because this guy is going

1381
01:03:33,639 --> 01:03:35,880
to play. He's going to have the opportunity. They don't

1382
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:39,159
have a ton of other options in New York and

1383
01:03:39,239 --> 01:03:42,119
the Isles, so I think Richie is a good person

1384
01:03:42,199 --> 01:03:44,079
to get your hands on. Looking at the top down

1385
01:03:44,199 --> 01:03:46,480
hockey models, nine percent chance of being a star, sixty

1386
01:03:46,519 --> 01:03:49,159
one percent chance of being an NHL or so, all

1387
01:03:49,239 --> 01:03:51,599
of that is a little bit more pessimistic. I think

1388
01:03:51,599 --> 01:03:53,880
there's more upside than that. But what else can you

1389
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,719
expect from j Fresh there? That's all for the Isles dig.

1390
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,480
If you're a patron, you can listen to my top

1391
01:03:58,519 --> 01:04:02,719
ten prospects recap, including all the information around the draft

1392
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,480
that we will be talking about once we know who

1393
01:04:04,559 --> 01:04:06,880
the Aisles do select, so he'll be covered in that

1394
01:04:07,039 --> 01:04:09,840
sense and in terms of the rest of the stuff.

1395
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,599
If you're interested in scouting, or shoot me a DM

1396
01:04:11,679 --> 01:04:13,480
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1397
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 2: We'll be right beck. To close off the show, Fantasy

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set the expectations that high, but certainly all the expectations

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that I need to set up things like the Tidy League.

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rookie drafts going. There's everything is going on at the

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same time. I think you will enjoy if you give

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it a shot. Fantrik's HQ's got fantasy content, especially during

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the season, and because of all the fantasy sports that

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get played there, there's also articles on other sports. Fahl's

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a team, our Fahl Crew. It deserves a shout out.

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On the regular tim Ay has been going nuts putting

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together the Tidy Leagues. Simone Orion Crafts are also helping

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out in those endeavors. Tony and Patrick are our lead scouts.

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A lot to do to get all the Scotty reports together.

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Believe me, we're in peak season right now. Mike, Steven

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and Matt are helping with show prep. That really helps

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us to be ready to put out all of these

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team previews in short order. Brandon helps with website, prospect

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ranks and visualizations, and if you'd like to help more

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with the show. If you've got other things you think

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we ought to do, find Victor in the discord, email

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or social media. Remember to join the tie leagues. We've

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had a recent influx of people which I love seeing

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in July because this actually is the time we need

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people to join up so that we can get all

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the rookie drafts together, we can get all the divisions together.

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It is an ideal time. Yeah, I know July might

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not be your first choice for getting your mind fresh

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into a dynasty league. Now is a great time. It's

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the right time to jump into the tidy. You got

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to sign up on Patreon. It's a pretty cheap rate

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to get on for a year, which gets you in

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the league. There's no pay to play in the league,

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it's just you got to be a patron. We are

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also brought to you by DABA Hockey Daber Prospects. Victoris

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an editor there. You can follow his work. I do

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a solo show called Dynasty Sports Life. We talk about

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four different dynasty sports this week. I believe that a

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patron of Fantasy Hockey Life named Marcus and I are

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planning to record an episode and it will include talk

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about the Columbus Blue Jackets because we do something called

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a four sport draft where we pick among the city

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Blender which means the three Cleveland teams and the Columbus

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Blue Jackets who would be like best in Dynasty, from

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regular players, for prospects, for old sleepers, that type of thing.

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You might enjoy it. Give it a listen Dynasty Sports Life,

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follow us on social media, Jesse Severe on Blue Sky,

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also the one Victor on Blue Sky, or you can

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follow us on x fan Hockey Life and Victor Newt No.

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Twelve Rate Review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever else you

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get your pods. Thank you for listening. Sorry for the

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confusion about Dobson and the draft picks, but I still

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think you're going to enjoy this as a healthy, wholesome

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part of your fantasy hockey life.