Speaker 1: And that's why I never read the comment.
Speaker 2: I just want to like, I'm not even gonna look
amazing tonight.
Speaker 1: I love what you're wearing. Oh my god, we're all.
Speaker 3: I have an angry closs, that is, But that's hard,
like unless it's like NBA team or something like whoa, Hello, everybody,
Welcome back to Holly Randall Unfiltered. My guest today left
a career as an ICU dietician to become one of
adult content's most recognizable rising creators, bisexual, polyamorous, and by
her own count, has had over a thousand people touch
her boobs. We will get into that because apparently you
could line up for it, which today we're talking Reddit's
not Safe for work, evolution, polyamory, boygolt content, and why
she still answers every DM herself.
Speaker 1: This is Ellie James.
Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, thank you so much for having me, Holly.
Speaker 1: I just think back to when we first amy.
Speaker 2: Or on the red carpet at.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, you're right. Did we actually like introduce ourselves
to each other or were we just next to each other.
Speaker 2: Briefly commiserated over them being such sticklers about the rope?
Speaker 1: Oh right?
Speaker 2: But then it was like time to go. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So that was I swear to God, like I'm I
get so angry. Basically, they like wouldn't allow us interviewers
on the red carpet with the people walking it for
fire hazard reasons, even though the red carpet was really
big and people were walking all over, right, so we
had to stand. They made us like put up a rope.
What are they? Yeah, the velvet rope. There's a certain
word for whatever. And then we had to stand on
the other side of it. So like people would come
up to us.
Speaker 2: I'm in spikey heel like un concrete and they're standing
behind me and I'm like, how are you today?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so awkward because you can't turn and
face them because then your backs to the camera, and
so I had to be like, how are you doing?
Speaker 1: And then yeah, we'd interview.
Speaker 2: People of the work double chinned so hard, like the
whole you double.
Speaker 1: Chin I am like very double I'm a big double chinner. Yeah.
It was very frustrating, but I.
Speaker 2: Remember someone out there who's kink is double chins, so
we did it for them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a whole I mean, speaking of Reddit, which
I know we'll get into this. There's a whole like
subreddit about like nasal cavities, like people who are really
big into nasal cavities.
Speaker 1: Madison Ivy told me this.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, if you dig on Reddit, there is
a thing for everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's true. All right.
Speaker 3: So Ellie, let's start from the beginning, right, How did
you get into the adult industry because you started off
as a biomedical engineering and ICU dietitian.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I first studied biomedical engineering, mostly because I was
really good at math and science. And I got into
engineering and I thought I want to do medicine so
I could put them both together. And after a year
I realized there's no medicine. I mean it was like
a lot of I could maybe make prostic limbs, but
it would still be me working with machinery or technology,
not medicine. And so I pieced out of that and
I switched to dietetics, which is like medical nutrition sciences,
and I specialized in people who can't eat, so a
lot of sad reasons. You couldn't eat. If you're in
a coma on a ventilator, I still my cancer. If
you're very end of life a lot of things, so
I specialized in that there's not a lot of people
who did, and I would do tube feedings, ivy nutrition,
a lot of labs and stuff, and I loved it.
And I ended up covering a good chunk of southern
California at the hospital system I was in and just
taking care of all their patients who weren't able to eat,
and was a very sad job, but it was very
rewarding and I was good at it, and that was
in its own way rewarding to just like just I
just was crushing it. I was feeling so good. And
then COVID happened and everyone's on a ventilator, and I said,
we need more people to help me do this job
because I can't. I just like, I don't want to
make a mistake and hurt someone any more people and
they told me no. But what they didn't know is
I had a secret Reddit page where for about a
year or so, I had been posting naked pictures, naked videos,
whatever little slutty things I wanted to do and gaining
a pretty big following. And everyone kept saying start an
only fans, starting OnlyFans, and I was like, I have
this job. I don't want to possibly ruin it by
having an OnlyFans And so I told them, if you
don't hire someone else, I'm going to leave. And I
think they were trying to call my bluff and they
were like, no, you won't. And so I went home
that day and I started OnlyFans and my wonderful Reddit
following was like, yeah, we'll support you. They jumped on there,
and I went in the next day and put in
my two week notice and said I found another job.
So genuinely just wanted to share my boobs with the
world and was going to do it for free for
the rest of my life. And things just turned in
a way where it became my job.
Speaker 1: And I just realized you could actually make money off I.
Speaker 2: Could, I could actually make money off of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, that's funny.
Speaker 3: Fun So question just going back to your job in
the ICU, because it's so interesting how many women worked
in the medical field and then came into adult content
or work in adult content and then move into the
medical field. My sister's in icy unurse, okay, and I
spent a lot of time in the ICU last year,
not myself but someone very close to me, and so
you said it was a sad job, Like did it
make you feel like, how did it make you see life?
Speaker 1: Didn't make you see life differently?
Speaker 2: Well, A couple points I can say is I think
the reason that the adult content industry and like nursing
our ICU medical jobs are so easily interchangeable, it's because
you have to be very comfortable with the human body,
with the processes of the human body, and with seeing
people naked or being naked, or just nudity in general,
or just knowing that like some of those things are
kind of nasty but real and that's life and whatever.
And so I think working in one or the other
kind of gets you ready to switch pretty easily.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And you also learn to like empathize and care about
people in the struggle they're going through in both of
those jobs, so they do they do feed into each
other pretty well. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was going to say, there's a real like EmPATH
to both, right, because you're connecting with people in both situations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just a recognition that, like, bodies are what
they are, let's do what we can for them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: My job specifically was tough because if you're at the
point where you can't eat by mouth anymore. You're in
a bad situation. So I wasn't getting a lot of
people who like had a heart attack and then they
recover and they go home. Like that wasn't the people
that I was seeing. I specifically had a lot of
people who were paralyzed. And I won't ruin this podcast
by telling their stories, but like they would tell me
their stories about and they're like eighteen thirty whatever, They're
gonna be paralysed for the rest of their life, and
I'm coming in telling them, yeah, you can't eat ever again,
so you're gonna lay here without moving or eating for
the next seventy years. It was just constantly soul draining.
And I'm pretty good at being optimistic and being cheerful,
and so despite that situation, I would bring my energy
and handsome cheer to everybody and then like leave just
like drained of everything. And I was happy to do it.
But yeah, it's tough and it's sad and it's straining,
and it also correlates really well with something like being live.
Like I come in and I give all my energy
and then it ends and I'm like, oh, whoa like
I just like poured my cup out. So they do
go together well, But in that job, I was literally
saving life sometimes and very rarely, if ever would someone
say thank you. Most of my patients kind of couldn't,
but like, no one thanked me. Families, doctors, no one
thanked me. And now people thank me all the time.
And I'm not saving lives out here, I'm just putting
my boobs on the internet. And they were like, wow,
thank you, Like my life was so sad and now
it's happy, thank you, or like you're amazing, thank you,
And I'm like this is what this is what I
mean thankful. So it's a very thankless job to do
medical work, especially I see you. Yeah, not that I
expected any of them to be like have anything left
to give to say thank you to me.
Speaker 3: At the moment, but yeah, I remember when we left
the icee. You we were so thankful to the nurses.
Speaker 1: That's nice.
Speaker 2: But you probably didn't see the dietitian except for when
she was in there giving bad news or I.
Speaker 1: Mean we had like a dietitian.
Speaker 2: I think you came in.
Speaker 3: Because it was brain surgery, but yeah, I mean she
definitely didn't. I don't remember like her giving any particular
like she.
Speaker 2: Was probably just there to like visually look at the
person and make sure there's no real signs of like
a efficiency of something. Yeah, but usually we go in
and we just make a little small chat and like, oh,
is there anything you want to about nutrition? But really
we're doing all the calculations in her head and checking
that this person looks nutritionally sound.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, so happy stuff.
Speaker 3: When you made that leap to doing OnlyFans, were you
a little bit nervous or did you really feel like
I can support myself this way or did you wait
until you were making some money on that platform before
you quit your job.
Speaker 2: I started my own fans and the next day put
in my two week notice. But I when a lot
of people go into this industry, they start from the
ground up and build a following. I had already done
that without needing or expecting money.
Speaker 3: And those are back in the days when like Reddit
was like yeah, a more powerful tool, right, And.
Speaker 2: I do think because the culture of Reddit is very anti.
Speaker 1: Sex work promotion for sure, earth yeah.
Speaker 2: That they appreciated that I was just like a slutty,
innocent girl who was sharing my boobs, you know what
I mean. Yeah, yeah, So it was easy and I
was putting out great stuff, and I did build a
really significant following. I think when I started my Only Fans,
I had somewhere near like two hundred thousand followers on
Reddit and so it was easy to convert a good
chunk of them over. Day one was probably my best day,
single day ever.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and so I felt pretty confident. I actually
felt overly confident because I was like, I'm gonna make
this much every day for the rest of my life.
And I threw myself a giant birthday party like two
months later in Mexico and invited all my flant friends
and flew them down there and hired a chef and
a massus and I was like, I'm the next Kardashian
and then realize that that's like not it. I was
going to make every day for the rest of my life.
But I was pretty confident at the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now, being on OnlyFans for a while and other sites,
and you're also like on fansly, how do you keep
like things consistent? And because we're talking earlier and you said,
like your income has been pretty consistent, like how do
you maintain that.
Speaker 2: I am very consistent on any page where people are paying,
because I value that they are wanting to give me
money for what I do, so I'm not going to
let them down. So I'm very consistent about posting, keeping
things entertaining and fun. But on social media, I am
not consistent. And sometimes I will go a month, maybe
even two, without making a single post anywhere on social media.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: And I think that a lot of people who only
follow me on socials are like, oh, yeah, she comes
and goes, like she must not be consistent on her
paid pages. But I am on OnlyFans fansly every day
for years and years, and I got some great stuff.
I'm there. I mean to take little chunks and scatter
them around, but yeah, I just I just lose the
motivation a lot of times. And so there's another thing
where like, when you post on social platforms, you open
yourself up to a lot of negativity and a lot
of criticism that doesn't really happen on paid pages because
why would someone pay to come and insult you.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've had some of those, but for the
most part.
Speaker 2: So it's it's a little bit easier to post there
every day and put up whatever I want, and then
I feel a little more drained. Sometimes if I am, I.
Speaker 1: Just try not to a social media manager or someone
to like help you.
Speaker 2: I briefly I was dating a girl for a few years.
I briefly had her helping me with things, but then
she just got very busy and in that short period
of time and she was helping me, I became emotionally
disconnected from my work, even just sharing some of the responsibilities.
So no, so I just I just do it all
and I do what I want. And if I was
hurting for money, I think I'd hustle harder, and of
course I can always make more, but I would just
rather do what makes me happy while I'm comfortable right now.
Speaker 3: I think that sometimes, and I think about I think
I do this a lot where I'm so like focused
on like the career building and all of that that. Yeah,
I don't know if I enjoy it. Like when I
I was thinking this to myself the other day, like, yeah,
you know, my next goal is to buy a house,
right yeah, for my family.
Speaker 1: And it's like when I get the house, will I
be like satisfied. Yeah? I don't think so.
Speaker 3: No, you know, I don't think like I'll ever get there, no,
which in a.
Speaker 2: Way you don't want to because then you lose all
this motivation and then.
Speaker 3: You yeah, yeah, there's that too, But then it's just like,
how do you find this balance where you're motivated to
work and like better yourself and grow your career and
also not.
Speaker 2: I think innately I have that pretty well. I don't
do things I don't want to do unless and you know,
if I need to, I'm gonna do the work that
I need to do. My dad's a really hard working person.
My mom's a really hard working person. So I know, like,
when it's time to work hard, you work hard. But
if I don't need to, I'm pretty good at just
like respecting my time and only doing what I want.
And I've never ever in this industry done something and
looked back and was like I wish I hadn't done that.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about Reddit.
Speaker 3: Okay, when you first started, because you started on twenty nineteen,
what was it not safe for work? Reddit landscape like
back then compared to now, because it's so different now.
That used to be like the way to promote yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now I feel like it's I feel like twenty
nineteen was even before people really were promoting themselves. There
was HUT. I don't know if you remember that page. Yeah,
before OnlyFans got big, there was Hut. But not a
lot of people were promoting at all on social or
on Reddit. It was a lot of gone wild vibes
and everyone was just putting themselves out there for the
fun of it, and there wasn't this pressure for your
picture to be great, and so that made things even
more fun, Like you just snap a picture, put it up,
and now the landscape has so much more like promotion
and trying to be better than the people around you
and try to get noticed and have the right caption,
and I think that that keeps people away. And then
a lot of agencies are on there and they don't
understand how Reddit works, but they go into Reddit anyway
and understanding how Reddit works, and like how subreddits work,
and why you would post on this page not for yourself,
but because it matches the folder, the category of what
it is. Reddit was created before there was like a
good search engine so that people who wanted to see
turtles could go to the subreddit turtles, and everyone had
put in pictures and ideas and thoughts about turtles there,
and same for big butts or little titties or whatever.
And now, instead of trying to add to this community
more things that work specifically for it for someone who
wants to see just that thing, people just throw their
pictures everywhere they can, trying to advertise, and that upsets
a lot of the people who were original Reddit users
who are wanting to use it correctly as a hard word,
but as it was originally designed, and so they get angry.
And now there's this like anger and bitterness at the
promotion or the selling of content, and that bitterness makes
them kind of mean and trolly. And there's this fight
between the new people who someone told them they can
see porn on Reddit, so they went there and they
just open up page. They're like cool porn, up vote
and the people who are upvoting and down voting based
on how well this thing fits in the criteria, not
how much they like the thing. And it's become this
like warring landscape that just has a lot of negativity
instead of what it used to be was like, oh yeah,
that does fit titty drop because she dropped her titties,
So I'm gonna upvote it. It's there and if people
want to see it, they can go see and the
highest voted ones are the most specific to this category.
And it's just it's kind of lost a lot of that,
and I feel a lot of anger from the people
who loved Reddit in the beginning.
Speaker 3: Yea.
Speaker 2: And also Redit became a public company and so they
change a lot of rules there. Things change everywhere all
the time. But it used to be it felt more
like a safe place. It felt more like a community
where people are trying to build each other up or
giving suggestions like your things go better here or there
or now. It has a lot of bitterness and anger
and that troll vibe. Yeah.
Speaker 3: One thing I know that people do because I remember
one of my business partners was like, oh, here's an
idea for marketing.
Speaker 1: They go into these.
Speaker 3: You know pages where it's like advice yeah, and then
they like plant people to recommend.
Speaker 1: Like their products yes, and be like, oh have you
tried this?
Speaker 3: And they're all different, like paid people to put that's
not an authentic post. And I can see why that
would be. I mean, that's incredibly disingenuous, it is, and
I can see how they'd be infuriating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think a lot of newer people or
people who aren't super familiar with Reddit are unbothered by that. Maybe,
but a lot of the people who used Reddit for
a long time and really valued what it had to offer,
they're just they're just either leaving or unhappy about it. Yeah,
it's too bad. But you know, sometimes even I'm scrolling
and I see something and I'm like, this doesn't go there.
That's not the correct sub reddit for this, and I
have to be like, okay, okay, like they don't know,
or it's probably more likely a company who got a
bunch of pictures and through the picture it's not even
the girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah what I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned that you've had like over a thousand
people'll touch your boobs. Yeah, and you have like boob
meet and greets.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: I do, And I want to hear about this because
I want to know why I have not been invited.
Speaker 2: So I went to a v in the first year
a while back, and I was shocked that AVAN is
like the adult conference where you meet adult stars that
they like wouldn't even let us wear pasties. We had
to have our boobs covered. No one could touch them.
Speaker 1: I was, yeah, the casinos rules, not Evian.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so interesting because I assumed there it would
be wild. And so the next year I was like, well,
I got to figure out how to do this, so
I offer my own off campus. Like this not related
to Avian anyway, other than it's the same time topless
meat and greets. It's me and a pair of panties
with a bouncer, and you get ten minutes alone with
me with a bouncer. But he says in the corner,
he doesn't really have anything to do unless I say, hell, hown,
this is a long time, and then this is a
long time. People actually use the whole ten minutes or so.
There's two types of people. Okay, there's the person that
comes in like a puppy dog with puppy dog energy
and they're like sucking on my nipple and they're like
it's I feel like a dentist. I'm like, so, how's
your day and they're what, And it's like ten minutes
and that at like nine to fifty five. I'm like, okay,
let's wrap it up. Like oh, there's the people that
come in so they.
Speaker 1: Well cannot they can they can suck your boobs too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm okay with that. I don't
want anyone to leak leave marks. And there's a five
minute break between each person. I wash my boobs down
or anywhere else they might have touched. I don't want
any fluid swapping. So you can't kiss me, you can't
like there's no spit, don't touch anywhere my teeny tiny
thong is covering, which that's like that shouldn't be that hard,
And just ask in general before you do anything, so
like that's all I ask. Like if you're gonna say, like, oh,
can I spank you? Can I suck your boob? I'm
probably gonna say yes, just just ask. Don't like catch
me off guard too much. It's pretty chill, but yeah.
But there's a second type of person who needs that
ten minutes because they come in and they're very uncomfortable
and I greet you at the door and I'm like, hi,
I already know your name, and you get to tell
me a little bit about you before you come, and
I give you a big hug, and they're used to
be like, oh my gosh, a topless person is hugging
me right now, and like you can just feel like
their anxiety and then probably a minute like two or three,
like I welcome them in, I sit them down, I
sit on their lap, like we're talking. For a second,
I like sign a picture. I'm trying to like feel
them out a little bit. You can feel the anxiety
come off. And then I'm like, so you're here from
my tits. Do you want to touch them? You want
to do this and some people want to do it
for a second. Some people want to do it for
a minute and they're like wow. So I try to
tailor it a little bit towards the person, and if
at any point in time I get a little touched out,
I'm like, okay, that was enough for me, you know.
But for the most part, I love it. They love it.
I've never had a single person be like that wasn't
what I was hoping for. They're usually like, wow, I
will see you next year, so hoping for yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's crazy. I'm sure you get people
who try to like who would like to take it further.
Speaker 2: I've only had one in all the years, the hundreds
of people, I had one person and he he was like,
I really want to suck on your toes and I
said no, I just it just sounded like a lot.
And he's like, can I rub your feet? And I
was like okay, sure. So he gets on the ground,
he's rubbing my feet and then he takes my foot
like a sub boy sandwich and shoves it into the
top and I was like okay, no, no, no no,
and I'm like trying to push his head and like
my foot is in his mouth. I was like, okay, sir,
that's enough of that, Like no, no, no, no. And
that was the only time I was like, okay, bouncer,
please help. And he came over and he was like dude,
you guys, you gotta go. He's like no, he was
like just like yeah, full on deep throating my foot. Wow.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I was a little shocked. And that was my first
year and nowadays that someone them was like I wanna
suck your toes, I'd probably back. I go for it. It's
like a suck a toe. But I was like just
really thrown off and the aggressiveness of it, and I
had already said no, and it was just like it
wasn't hurting me. It was just really freaky. And so yeah,
but he was an interesting fellow to begin with, because
the bouncer has everyone like empty all their pockets, feels
them down first, make sure they're not gonna like bring
a gun or a knife or something in. And that
guy he's emptying his pockets and according to the bouncer,
he's pulling women's used pianies out of all these pockets.
And he also had a briefcase and he's like, we
have to look through your birth He opened it. It's
just chockful, he said, there's probably like hundreds of pairs
of used women's underwear shoved into all his pockets out
his breethcase. I think he was going around van or
something and just like buying as many use pairs of
underwear as possible. I get it.
Speaker 3: It didn't at his briefcase. He had to start shoving
it like in his socks and shirt.
Speaker 1: And you think if you.
Speaker 2: Had someone's anywhere you wanted to like this goes with
that girl and I'm gonna smell and think of her.
But it was just like so many like squished in
pairs of dirty underwear. So like already, I think the
bouncer knew bringing this person in, like he's a little different.
We're like I'm pretty open. You can be as weird
as you want with me, and if it's not my thing,
I'll just say yeah, yeah, no thanks, but cool for you.
And so I was rolling with it, but I was
not expecting that it was the one and only time
where I felt overwhelmed.
Speaker 3: I can't keep the visual out of my head of
this guy like just like yeah, devouring your foot and
like refusing.
Speaker 1: To take it.
Speaker 2: And it was like it's big. I mean it's not.
It's a normal you're like a girl. Yeah, I mean
I have pretty small feet for tall girl, but still
the whole seven and a half look.
Speaker 1: The fuck out of here, but a whole foot. I'm
a ten and I'm not as tall as you.
Speaker 2: I think I was supposed to be shorter. And I
have these like few extra vertebrates here that add like
three inches to me. I have some like extra vertebrae
right here.
Speaker 1: Oh really, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'll show you later. My back is a little interesting.
So there's like wear your back like curves. Yeah, and
then there's my tailbone and there's this extra chunk in
there that just does kind of man, it doesn't make sense.
Someone told me it's called a Germanic spine or something
like that once and I was like, okay, so I
think I was supposed to be about like three or
four inches shorter and I just got that. But like, yeah,
my hands and feet are kind of small, my face
is like a little bit small on like how tall
I am and everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but not your Yeah that's true.
Speaker 2: Those happened, but anyway, it's not like an abnormally large foot.
But but it was a in his mouth I can't
and then like so far back I can't. Yeah, it
was I was shocked. Oh but you know it makes
a good story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely does. That is one going to be
a real check out. All right, let's talk about the
Mile High Club.
Speaker 2: Oh that was a fun one. I often have people
ask me what's on your bucket list? Nothing, because if
there was something on my bucket list, I'd just do it.
I could see that if I wanted to do something,
I do it. Although always had multiple partners and poly AMers,
I have, I have friends with benefits, I have people
i'm dating. There's someone I'm gonna be able to do
something with if I came up with something wild that
I really wanted to do and they didn't want to
I could find someone right. So the only thing for
a while was getting on the Mile High Club because
that you can't just like just do you know. You
might have a boyfriend or a girlfriend or whatever, but
it's hard to get in the playing bathroom and have sex.
Speaker 1: It's hard to get in the plane bathroom just one person.
Speaker 2: It is so so being something on my bucket list.
We kind of planned it out. We had a long
flight to Miami, it was overnight. We were going to
go to the front of the airplane. There's a handicap bathroom.
We're both tall people. I'm almost six foot tall. It's
like it's kind of hot. So there's a handicap bathroom.
So we're all we're really excited and we're nervous. They're
waiting for the right moment, like everyone seems to be sleeping.
Speaker 1: We get up.
Speaker 2: We go to this handicap bathroom in the front. So
like I get on my knees, I pull his pants down.
I'm like trying to suck his dick. He's not really
getting hard. We're both super nervous. We're like nothing's really working.
And then I like try to bend over and he's
like trying to put it in me, and it's just
not really happening, and like I don't have loom and
I'm kind of dry and I'm nervous and like we're
both just stressed. And then we can hear the flight
attendants right outside talking and they're like right outside the door,
and we're like, oh my gosh, we're like so stressed
out and it's just not gonna happen. And we're like
minutes and we're like five to ten minutes into trying this,
and we're like we have to call it. We're gonna
we're gonna call it, like you're your dick touched me.
So we join the Moha club. We're calling it, yeah,
And I send him out and I wait like a
few minutes and then I leave and it's so awkward,
and the flight attendant like is there and it's very
clear yeah, And I go back to my seat and
like we're letting the anxiety shake off, and we're like
it's kind of hot though, right Like we just snuck
into the bathroom and they were sitting there like and
we were planning out having sex and we are kind
of horny, but we can't go back to that from
a bathroom again because it's so then one went to
the back of the plane. Like fifteen minutes later, we
go to the backplane and the only option is this
teeny little bathroom stall, and we shove ourselves into this
tiny bathroom stall. At this point, he's hard, he's so horney.
I'm ready to go. We like turn me around, he
like fox me really good. And then he pulls out
and like I doesn't know what to do because he
can't go on me because I'm like holding my clothes up.
So we came all over like the sink and the mirror.
It's just like a giant mess. And I'm like, good job,
get out of here. And shoved him out and they're
like cleaned up the bathroom. Were sitting and they're like, oh,
we did it, and uh yeah, we had some great
albeit maybe only two minutes sex in the back of
the airplane. So technically we fucked in two bathrooms on
the same airplane.
Speaker 1: But you were just being around.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was just being too particular about the
how did you guys both fit in there?
Speaker 1: It was tight.
Speaker 2: So there's like the toilet, so my legs are right
in front of the toilet, and he's standings his butt
to the door maybe and I got my hands on
the toilet and it's kind of doggy, but right right
I'm standing Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, I've never joined the moment. I succeeded, but
I don't see it happening, and I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a lot of anxiety, but the anxiety's fun,
and I don't get that takes a lot to like
make me feel nervous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was fun. It was fun to feel that.
Speaker 3: Like, ah, so I want to talk about your that
your your polyamorous relationships. Yeah, you describe yourself as being
very open, like emotionally and physically, so like, how did
you or when did.
Speaker 1: You realize that, like polyamory was the way for you?
Speaker 2: Totally? When I was fourteen, Oh wow, there was this
guy I liked and he wanted to be my boyfriend,
and as you do when you're young, I thought, well,
we're gonna get married and then I will never I
had hadn't slept with anyone by him. He was my first,
and I was like, he's going to be the only
person I sleep with for the rest of my life. Fourteen,
and I was like, what what if we just were
open and we didn't have words for it. We were
in the middle of nowhere, farm country, Midwest, were kids. No,
there was no examples in my life. I didn't know
anybody with an open relationship, but I just wanted to
make sure I still had some experiences. And that thought
sort of was like, until we get married or whatever,
let's be open, let's do what we want, let's not
turn down opportunities. And we sort of figured it out
on our own and it just felt right. It made
him feel like my best friend because when I wanted
to do something, I could tell him, or when I
did something, I could tell him, Or if I thought
someone was cute, I could tell him, or if someone
hit on me, I could tell him. And I got
like this high five energy rather than like jealousy, and
it was really awesome. And when him I eventually broke up,
I just was like, this is the only way for me.
And going forward, I would tell people ahead of time, like, yeah,
I'd love to be your partner, but I'm already seeing someone,
or I'm only willing to do this if you know
that I might find someone else in the future. And
there's many levels of openness, from the most strict monogamy
to my monogamish to like people who will only do
physical things with other people, or people will only allow flirting,
or people who are I'm like, as far as it goes,
like my partners can be in love with someone else,
they can have lives with someone else also as long
as they genuinely are my best friend and they're still
going to come back and support me. And so at
this point in my life, even when I get married
or like settle down in the future, I'm still going
to be polyamorous. Like I just know it is so
correct for me. And I've always I've had little chunks
of time where I was single, but in that moment
I still felt like I am a polyamorous person. And
times where I was only dating one people person and
times where I was dating three. That's the max I've
ever done. That's hard scheduling wise, just finding time to
have real relationships. But yeah, yeah, I just I truly
believe in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you because so many people have
different like forms of polyamory and and like what makes
sense for them, Like I know, like Carla Lane, is
married to one guy, but then like Moe is her boyfriend,
and then I think, I feel like.
Speaker 1: She's got another one. Yeah, she's got.
Speaker 3: Three and yeah, I know, I know, right, And I
was like, how do you, like like Valentine's Day?
Speaker 1: Right, Like how do you schedule that? Like who? What's
the hierarchy?
Speaker 2: And I know people do have hierarchies on people don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think for her her husband is yeah, but
don't quote me on that.
Speaker 3: And then like like Susie and Michael Vegas, like they
live together, but it's same thing, like they don't really
believe in like primary.
Speaker 1: Cares necessarily, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of pressure to be somebody's only one, Yeah,
you know what I mean, and to be.
Speaker 1: Like I think, I think we're a lot.
Speaker 3: And this is actually speaking from someone who's married and
who is monogamous, and I've only ever been monogamous, and
that's what makes sense.
Speaker 1: For me totally.
Speaker 3: But I think that like where a lot of people
may have run into issues is when they try to
make one person everything to them. And when I say everything,
there's like all these different needs that we have. There's sexual,
there's emotional, there's like mental there's like security, you know,
like all of these things, and you know, I think
that one person can't really be all of that to you.
And whether like friends or family members like meet those
other needs. I think that's that's important to to I
don't know, I just feel like that makes.
Speaker 2: If I ate my favorite food all the time, would
it be weird if I suddenly wanted to eat something else,
Like it's the thing that I'd still be my favorite food,
but if it's the only food I ever get to
eat them, Yeah, But there's not a right way to
do a relationship. I am all four people being super
monogamous or super open. I just say there is wrong
ways to do it and to do each of the kinds.
And I think if you're polyamorous, it comes with a
set of challenges that that are really hard to handle.
But monogamy also comes with a set of challenges that
are really hard to handle. And it just always made
sense to me that if this person is really my
best friend and I have to hide things from them
because it's going to hurt their feelings, like that I
like someone or even.
Speaker 1: Just that I kind of fantasy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I just wanted even if I got boring
and I just stayed with one person for the rest
of my life. I want to be able to tell
that person like that guy is hot, or like I
want to put this girl's hits in my face, like
and I want them to not have this knee jerk
reaction of like, oh no, I'm going to lose her.
Like my partners know that when I go away, I
come back, they're never going to lose me. And I'm
probably going to come back in a way that I'm like,
thank you so much for allowing in this situation, like
I fell closer to you. So yeah, that's that's what
I want. But it doesn't mean that it's right.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think so many people unfortunately, like their
relationships are based on fear right and like an ownership
and like fear of losing and that kind.
Speaker 2: Of supporting their partner fully right.
Speaker 3: Because that I was I've been married before, and the
first guy I was married it was very possessive of me,
was very fearful, like he didn't like that I had
male friends and like all this kind of stuff, and
that pushed me away even more, like the more tightly
he tried to cling to me, like the more I
pulled away because I was like, this is not what
I want, whereas my current partner is.
Speaker 1: Like trust me.
Speaker 2: They can't trust your partner, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean he's you know, I don't think he's ever
been jealous ever of anyone, and he's no reason to me,
you know.
Speaker 1: And I feel the same way.
Speaker 3: Like I also like we just implicitly trust each other completely,
and I think that that's a really strong foundation for
most relationships. And I think a lot of people don't
have that because they probably didn't. And I think a
lot of it also comes down to like sex education,
shame around sexuality, shame around desire, non communication.
Speaker 2: But that says a lot about you that you're making
your partner feel secure also, because if you weren't actively
making sure that he felt secure, he would feel insecurities.
And I think a lot of people who like they're
feeling jealousy and they think it's like inside of them,
but it's not. It's a need that's not being met,
and their partner needs to make sure that they're meeting
that need that they feel secure. And if you can't
meet that need and make your partner feel secure, then
you're not ready for a relationship with that person.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So anyways, moving on from the Dating Dating podcast, Yeah,
let's talk about your first cooking experience.
Speaker 2: This is one of my wilder stories.
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know, man, that foot guy.
Does it get better than that?
Speaker 2: I mean, this one's wilder than that. I think a
lot of people if they were like, yeah, some dude
shoved his my in his mouth, they'd be like that
was a weird experience, but it wasn't like as weird
as coucking. Yeah right, like how many people. Anyway, I'm
going to tell the story. Well, I was open and
I met this guy and we were together for a while,
and he never was like enjoying sex as much I
think most people do. And so eventually we're talking about
it and he's like, well, what I really am into
is watching somebody like get fucked. And I was like, oh, okay,
never heard of this, Like this is interesting, tell me
about it. And he's like, it would really do it
for me, girl, who I've only been dating for a
couple months, to watch you take a big black dick.
And I'm from a small town. I hadn't really seen
a big dick of any color at this point. So
I didn't know quite what to expect. And I was like, oh, okay, interesting.
For as wild as I am, I'm a pretty vanilla
sex girl. I have pretty like calm, loving intimacy. And
I was like, you know what, if he wants me
to try this, let's let's do it. I'm gonna I'm
gonna take a bed black dick. So I think we're
gonna like interview people. I don't know how you figure
this one out.
Speaker 1: You've got like a clipboard, right, So we're talking.
Speaker 2: He's like, cool, So I've got this friend and we
could go to his house right now. And I was
like say what, oh, right now? Okay, So we get
in the car. We're driving over there. Still I'm thinking
we're gonna talk to this person, right, He's like, give
his friend's heads up. We get there, we go inside.
The friend like starts a house tour AND's like, and
this is my bedroom, let's have sex. I was like,
I just met you like seconds ago, what is even happening?
But I was just down for the roller cost of it.
He was a good looking guy. Yeah, okay yeah, and
so I was like, all right, let's talk. How does
this work? So the guy I'm sort of starting to date,
is like he's jacking off in the corner and this
guy just starts like fucking me with this giant dick.
And I'm not a big dick girlyer, and I'm like,
whoa bring exploding and trying to put on a show.
This was before contents. I don't know what I'm doing.
I'm like, you liking this? He's like at one point
he's like standing over my face jerking off, and the
guy's fucking me on the edge of the bed. It
was wild. He was like flipping me around, doing all
the crazy sex things that I hadn't even seen. I
was fairly young, and I was from a small town,
and I was like, what is happening? Like it was
a whole production that now that I am in porn
a little bit, I probably would be unfazed by. But
at the time, I was like, it was so wild.
And then the guy was with came, he had his orgasm.
He was like that was wonderful. And then I said
to the guy who's sucking me, like are you planing
and coming? He's like, well, I like really like sweet
intimate sex, and I was like, so do I so
then my boyfriend and he's like, oh god, I'm danging
it has already come. He's just kind of standing there
and this guy like gets on top and like lovingly
fucking me, and I'm down there like this was the
most weird day of life.
Speaker 1: So they completely flipped.
Speaker 2: It was so yeah. And then he came pretty fast,
so that worked for him to be like hold cradling
my face and like going for it. I was like, huh, interesting,
and then he was a really nice guy, but I
was sort of it. Then we just left and I
didn't really connect with him or get to know him
at all. And then I got to work the next
day as was working at a hospital and he comes
walking down the hallway and he also worked there in
a different department. No, and I'm like, oh way, no, yes,
and so yeah, so we worked together, but not like
we didn't actually have to work together, but we saw
each other. And I assume this is a thing that
they had done before based on how quickly that they
threw this together. But for me, I was like I
can't believe that happened. And I'm gonna like smile and
just be like hi, so and so like not weird
all the time and hilarious.
Speaker 1: Yeah wow. Was he surprised to see you too?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I think so because he was like in
a management position at that point. I was like a
new person, and I think there was a feeling of like,
oh uh oh, but I mean all is well. Everything
was super consensual, Everything was honestly super fun, really nice guy.
I ended up not continuing to date the guy who
wanted to be cooked, but we actually stayed really good friends.
And he got married and has a baby and sends
me updates about his family and so we're still good.
Speaker 1: Everything.
Speaker 2: This new wif cook with him, I think so, I
would assume so, but I don't know. I didn't ask.
I don't They're not super open. But actually, though when
I hope he's okay with me telling you we're not
share names. So when he and his now wife but
then girlfriend came and met me and a partner I
was dating, he said to my boyfriend he's like, she
really likes being molested, and my boyfriend was like, what
did you just like end me this girl? So, yeah,
he's an interesting fellow but really fun. I have a
great friendship with him, and uh, I don't look back
on it. With any bad feelings, but BOYD did it
blow my mind at the time. Yeah?
Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah, I just I.
Speaker 2: Went along on that roller coaster.
Speaker 3: So that that leads me to my next question. Are
you considering doing boy girl for your pages? Are you
doing boy girl for your pages? Like it's coming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question. So I put out my
first ever blowjob video, just started testing the waters, and
now in July, I feel.
Speaker 1: Like it did well.
Speaker 2: It didn't do bad, people liked it. But then people
are like, okay more or like do you have this,
or like I want to see you get facial or
I want to see you get a cream pire, and
I'm like, there's a good chunk of time between that
video coming out and then like now I'm like, okay,
I'm officially ready for the next step. We're gonna put
out full sex videos starting in July. So I gave
myself a little time. We're going to make sure we
have just something I feel really good about that actually
represents my real sex life. And it's coming. Yeah, it's coming.
And people have been asking about this since twenty nineteen,
like when's it going to happen. I've always been like,
it is going to happen, but it's not going to
happen now, and I don't I don't know when, because
I won't do anything until I'm like sure I want it,
and then I'm like so sure that I wish I
had already done it, And so I'm at that point,
I'm like, I'm totally if I had that out there
right now, i'd feel great about it. So I'm ready
and it's going to come out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like you're really good at establishing boundaries
and like moving at your pace that you're comfortable with.
But is there anything that you wish you had known
before starting in this industry that you know now?
Speaker 2: There are some people in the industry who are very genuine,
and I've become very good friends with them, and I
sort of went into it thinking everyone could be that person,
and I overshare. I have no filter, I have no
real desire for privacy on pretty much anything, and I
let people in. I give them a lot of information
or I jump right into things with people, and some
people weren't so genuine, and I think that I don't
know if I would have wished I had my guard up,
but I would have. I wish I would have maybe
consulted with somebody who's already in the industry, like who
is a good person to trust or to be vulnerable
with or to do videos with or things like that,
and who would make good friends. And I have found
that through my own way that some people are really
awesome and I have such deep friendships with them that
we're hanging out all the time, no cameras around. But yeah,
as someone who is very open that not everyone is
so trustworthy, and coming from a small crown, they are
more trustworthy people. I feel like, because you screw one
person over, there's only fifty people you can be friends with.
You lost one out here, you can lose as many
friends as you want and make new friends. And I
think that that.
Speaker 3: I think it's also like that mentality of like ambition,
like no matter what, yeah, yeah, yeah right, and so
like personal relationships don't matter as long as like you're
planning that ladder to get to whatever career pinnacle a
year after.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I had known that and then I had
more of a guard up, that would be sad in
its own way. So I'm not hurt necessarily. So I
guess my advice to someone else would just be like
to know that you're probably going to get screwed over
a few times and just be ready and that's okay, right,
that's okay. You're gonna have your heart open and you're
gonna meet some really awesome people.
Speaker 3: And you know you're gonna learn from it. I mean,
I've been I've totally been fucked over in this industry,
but I think, like it's just business, you.
Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, it just happens, and I learned from it
a little bit, and then I'm like, I wish I
hadn't learned from it because I liked I liked the innocence,
and I want to keep meeting people and giving them
that innocent version of myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I hope that you never become jaded because.
Speaker 2: Thank you as you are just so lovely. Thank you
very much.
Speaker 1: Yeah well, Ellie, thank you so much for coming on.
It's been such a pleasure to get to know you.
Speaker 3: We're going to do a separate segment for my Patreon members,
and I think we're also these are questions that are
sent in from my patrons. Only people who are members
of my Patreon can send these questions in, and then
we're also I think we're going to do a little
segment for my OWFT channel maybe yes, yes, okay, So
can you tell everybody where they can find you online
in the meantime.
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