1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: And that's why I never read the comment. 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 2: I just want to like, I'm not even gonna look 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:06,000 amazing tonight. 4 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: I love what you're wearing. Oh my god, we're all. 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,679 Speaker 3: I have an angry closs, that is, But that's hard, 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:24,079 like unless it's like NBA team or something like whoa, Hello, everybody, 7 00:00:24,199 --> 00:00:28,359 Welcome back to Holly Randall Unfiltered. My guest today left 8 00:00:28,359 --> 00:00:31,120 a career as an ICU dietician to become one of 9 00:00:31,199 --> 00:00:36,600 adult content's most recognizable rising creators, bisexual, polyamorous, and by 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,560 her own count, has had over a thousand people touch 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,520 her boobs. We will get into that because apparently you 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,320 could line up for it, which today we're talking Reddit's 13 00:00:46,359 --> 00:00:50,159 not Safe for work, evolution, polyamory, boygolt content, and why 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,759 she still answers every DM herself. 15 00:00:53,399 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: This is Ellie James. 16 00:00:54,799 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, thank you so much for having me, Holly. 17 00:00:58,359 --> 00:01:01,039 Speaker 1: I just think back to when we first amy. 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,239 Speaker 2: Or on the red carpet at. 19 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,439 Speaker 1: Oh yes, you're right. Did we actually like introduce ourselves 20 00:01:07,439 --> 00:01:09,200 to each other or were we just next to each other. 21 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: Briefly commiserated over them being such sticklers about the rope? 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: Oh right? 23 00:01:15,799 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: But then it was like time to go. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:19,519 I know. 25 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:20,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. 26 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:25,719 Speaker 3: So that was I swear to God, like I'm I 27 00:01:25,719 --> 00:01:30,239 get so angry. Basically, they like wouldn't allow us interviewers 28 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,280 on the red carpet with the people walking it for 29 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,519 fire hazard reasons, even though the red carpet was really 30 00:01:37,519 --> 00:01:40,519 big and people were walking all over, right, so we 31 00:01:40,599 --> 00:01:44,760 had to stand. They made us like put up a rope. 32 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,200 What are they? Yeah, the velvet rope. There's a certain 33 00:01:47,239 --> 00:01:49,719 word for whatever. And then we had to stand on 34 00:01:49,719 --> 00:01:51,879 the other side of it. So like people would come 35 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:52,680 up to us. 36 00:01:52,799 --> 00:01:55,719 Speaker 2: I'm in spikey heel like un concrete and they're standing 37 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,040 behind me and I'm like, how are you today? 38 00:01:58,439 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so awkward because you can't turn and 39 00:02:01,799 --> 00:02:04,239 face them because then your backs to the camera, and 40 00:02:04,319 --> 00:02:07,120 so I had to be like, how are you doing? 41 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,039 Speaker 1: And then yeah, we'd interview. 42 00:02:08,759 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: People of the work double chinned so hard, like the 43 00:02:11,039 --> 00:02:12,680 whole you double. 44 00:02:12,479 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: Chin I am like very double I'm a big double chinner. Yeah. 45 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:18,919 It was very frustrating, but I. 46 00:02:18,879 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: Remember someone out there who's kink is double chins, so 47 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,120 we did it for them. 48 00:02:23,319 --> 00:02:26,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a whole I mean, speaking of Reddit, which 49 00:02:26,159 --> 00:02:27,879 I know we'll get into this. There's a whole like 50 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:33,080 subreddit about like nasal cavities, like people who are really 51 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,240 big into nasal cavities. 52 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: Madison Ivy told me this. 53 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, if you dig on Reddit, there is 54 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,400 a thing for everything. 55 00:02:40,479 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's true. All right. 56 00:02:42,479 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 3: So Ellie, let's start from the beginning, right, How did 57 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,960 you get into the adult industry because you started off 58 00:02:48,039 --> 00:02:52,479 as a biomedical engineering and ICU dietitian. 59 00:02:52,759 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 60 00:02:53,599 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: Well, I first studied biomedical engineering, mostly because I was 61 00:02:57,719 --> 00:03:00,439 really good at math and science. And I got into 62 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,560 engineering and I thought I want to do medicine so 63 00:03:04,599 --> 00:03:06,759 I could put them both together. And after a year 64 00:03:06,759 --> 00:03:09,479 I realized there's no medicine. I mean it was like 65 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,120 a lot of I could maybe make prostic limbs, but 66 00:03:12,159 --> 00:03:15,159 it would still be me working with machinery or technology, 67 00:03:15,719 --> 00:03:18,680 not medicine. And so I pieced out of that and 68 00:03:18,719 --> 00:03:22,159 I switched to dietetics, which is like medical nutrition sciences, 69 00:03:22,759 --> 00:03:26,199 and I specialized in people who can't eat, so a 70 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,439 lot of sad reasons. You couldn't eat. If you're in 71 00:03:28,439 --> 00:03:30,560 a coma on a ventilator, I still my cancer. If 72 00:03:30,599 --> 00:03:34,400 you're very end of life a lot of things, so 73 00:03:34,439 --> 00:03:36,240 I specialized in that there's not a lot of people 74 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,280 who did, and I would do tube feedings, ivy nutrition, 75 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,360 a lot of labs and stuff, and I loved it. 76 00:03:42,719 --> 00:03:46,080 And I ended up covering a good chunk of southern 77 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,919 California at the hospital system I was in and just 78 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,199 taking care of all their patients who weren't able to eat, 79 00:03:52,479 --> 00:03:58,840 and was a very sad job, but it was very 80 00:03:58,879 --> 00:04:03,680 rewarding and I was good at it, and that was 81 00:04:03,759 --> 00:04:06,199 in its own way rewarding to just like just I 82 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,000 just was crushing it. I was feeling so good. And 83 00:04:09,759 --> 00:04:15,000 then COVID happened and everyone's on a ventilator, and I said, 84 00:04:15,039 --> 00:04:17,600 we need more people to help me do this job 85 00:04:17,639 --> 00:04:19,240 because I can't. I just like, I don't want to 86 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,120 make a mistake and hurt someone any more people and 87 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,240 they told me no. But what they didn't know is 88 00:04:24,319 --> 00:04:27,720 I had a secret Reddit page where for about a 89 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,160 year or so, I had been posting naked pictures, naked videos, 90 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,360 whatever little slutty things I wanted to do and gaining 91 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,720 a pretty big following. And everyone kept saying start an 92 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,759 only fans, starting OnlyFans, and I was like, I have 93 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,560 this job. I don't want to possibly ruin it by 94 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,360 having an OnlyFans And so I told them, if you 95 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,279 don't hire someone else, I'm going to leave. And I 96 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:47,839 think they were trying to call my bluff and they 97 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,920 were like, no, you won't. And so I went home 98 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:55,399 that day and I started OnlyFans and my wonderful Reddit 99 00:04:55,399 --> 00:04:58,360 following was like, yeah, we'll support you. They jumped on there, 100 00:04:58,519 --> 00:05:00,079 and I went in the next day and put in 101 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,800 my two week notice and said I found another job. 102 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:09,160 So genuinely just wanted to share my boobs with the 103 00:05:09,199 --> 00:05:11,560 world and was going to do it for free for 104 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,560 the rest of my life. And things just turned in 105 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,279 a way where it became my job. 106 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: And I just realized you could actually make money off I. 107 00:05:18,199 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: Could, I could actually make money off of it. 108 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, that's funny. 109 00:05:22,879 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 3: Fun So question just going back to your job in 110 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,879 the ICU, because it's so interesting how many women worked 111 00:05:29,959 --> 00:05:32,120 in the medical field and then came into adult content 112 00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:34,639 or work in adult content and then move into the 113 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:39,720 medical field. My sister's in icy unurse, okay, and I 114 00:05:39,759 --> 00:05:42,199 spent a lot of time in the ICU last year, 115 00:05:43,199 --> 00:05:46,720 not myself but someone very close to me, and so 116 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,040 you said it was a sad job, Like did it 117 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,600 make you feel like, how did it make you see life? 118 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: Didn't make you see life differently? 119 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: Well, A couple points I can say is I think 120 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:03,360 the reason that the adult content industry and like nursing 121 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,759 our ICU medical jobs are so easily interchangeable, it's because 122 00:06:07,759 --> 00:06:10,360 you have to be very comfortable with the human body, 123 00:06:11,439 --> 00:06:13,959 with the processes of the human body, and with seeing 124 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,959 people naked or being naked, or just nudity in general, 125 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,680 or just knowing that like some of those things are 126 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,879 kind of nasty but real and that's life and whatever. 127 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,120 And so I think working in one or the other 128 00:06:24,199 --> 00:06:26,199 kind of gets you ready to switch pretty easily. 129 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 130 00:06:26,639 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: And you also learn to like empathize and care about 131 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,160 people in the struggle they're going through in both of 132 00:06:31,199 --> 00:06:33,240 those jobs, so they do they do feed into each 133 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:34,519 other pretty well. Yeah. 134 00:06:34,519 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 3: I was going to say, there's a real like EmPATH 135 00:06:38,319 --> 00:06:43,480 to both, right, because you're connecting with people in both situations. 136 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, and just a recognition that, like, bodies are what 137 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,720 they are, let's do what we can for them. 138 00:06:48,959 --> 00:06:49,199 Speaker 1: Yeah. 139 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,399 Speaker 2: My job specifically was tough because if you're at the 140 00:06:53,439 --> 00:06:57,160 point where you can't eat by mouth anymore. You're in 141 00:06:57,199 --> 00:06:59,480 a bad situation. So I wasn't getting a lot of 142 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,480 people who like had a heart attack and then they 143 00:07:02,519 --> 00:07:04,959 recover and they go home. Like that wasn't the people 144 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,800 that I was seeing. I specifically had a lot of 145 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:14,120 people who were paralyzed. And I won't ruin this podcast 146 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,000 by telling their stories, but like they would tell me 147 00:07:16,079 --> 00:07:20,360 their stories about and they're like eighteen thirty whatever, They're 148 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,319 gonna be paralysed for the rest of their life, and 149 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,639 I'm coming in telling them, yeah, you can't eat ever again, 150 00:07:24,639 --> 00:07:27,240 so you're gonna lay here without moving or eating for 151 00:07:27,279 --> 00:07:33,439 the next seventy years. It was just constantly soul draining. 152 00:07:34,199 --> 00:07:39,120 And I'm pretty good at being optimistic and being cheerful, 153 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,839 and so despite that situation, I would bring my energy 154 00:07:41,879 --> 00:07:44,600 and handsome cheer to everybody and then like leave just 155 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,040 like drained of everything. And I was happy to do it. 156 00:07:49,079 --> 00:07:52,319 But yeah, it's tough and it's sad and it's straining, 157 00:07:52,839 --> 00:07:55,720 and it also correlates really well with something like being live. 158 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,560 Like I come in and I give all my energy 159 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,279 and then it ends and I'm like, oh, whoa like 160 00:08:00,519 --> 00:08:02,839 I just like poured my cup out. So they do 161 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,680 go together well, But in that job, I was literally 162 00:08:06,759 --> 00:08:10,560 saving life sometimes and very rarely, if ever would someone 163 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,839 say thank you. Most of my patients kind of couldn't, 164 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,439 but like, no one thanked me. Families, doctors, no one 165 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,240 thanked me. And now people thank me all the time. 166 00:08:19,439 --> 00:08:21,639 And I'm not saving lives out here, I'm just putting 167 00:08:21,639 --> 00:08:23,879 my boobs on the internet. And they were like, wow, 168 00:08:23,959 --> 00:08:26,600 thank you, Like my life was so sad and now 169 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,160 it's happy, thank you, or like you're amazing, thank you, 170 00:08:30,199 --> 00:08:32,519 And I'm like this is what this is what I 171 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,840 mean thankful. So it's a very thankless job to do 172 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,440 medical work, especially I see you. Yeah, not that I 173 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,200 expected any of them to be like have anything left 174 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,480 to give to say thank you to me. 175 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 3: At the moment, but yeah, I remember when we left 176 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,840 the icee. You we were so thankful to the nurses. 177 00:08:49,919 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: That's nice. 178 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 2: But you probably didn't see the dietitian except for when 179 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,080 she was in there giving bad news or I. 180 00:08:56,039 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: Mean we had like a dietitian. 181 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 2: I think you came in. 182 00:09:00,879 --> 00:09:04,879 Speaker 3: Because it was brain surgery, but yeah, I mean she 183 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:10,600 definitely didn't. I don't remember like her giving any particular 184 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:11,240 like she. 185 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 2: Was probably just there to like visually look at the 186 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,039 person and make sure there's no real signs of like 187 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,000 a efficiency of something. Yeah, but usually we go in 188 00:09:21,039 --> 00:09:23,600 and we just make a little small chat and like, oh, 189 00:09:23,639 --> 00:09:25,279 is there anything you want to about nutrition? But really 190 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,600 we're doing all the calculations in her head and checking 191 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,720 that this person looks nutritionally sound. 192 00:09:29,879 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 193 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, so happy stuff. 194 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 3: When you made that leap to doing OnlyFans, were you 195 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,879 a little bit nervous or did you really feel like 196 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,320 I can support myself this way or did you wait 197 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,679 until you were making some money on that platform before 198 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:45,360 you quit your job. 199 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: I started my own fans and the next day put 200 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,440 in my two week notice. But I when a lot 201 00:09:50,519 --> 00:09:52,919 of people go into this industry, they start from the 202 00:09:52,919 --> 00:09:55,759 ground up and build a following. I had already done 203 00:09:55,799 --> 00:09:58,000 that without needing or expecting money. 204 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: And those are back in the days when like Reddit 205 00:10:00,279 --> 00:10:02,320 was like yeah, a more powerful tool, right, And. 206 00:10:02,279 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 2: I do think because the culture of Reddit is very anti. 207 00:10:10,639 --> 00:10:14,759 Speaker 1: Sex work promotion for sure, earth yeah. 208 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,799 Speaker 2: That they appreciated that I was just like a slutty, 209 00:10:17,799 --> 00:10:20,039 innocent girl who was sharing my boobs, you know what 210 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,679 I mean. Yeah, yeah, So it was easy and I 211 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,840 was putting out great stuff, and I did build a 212 00:10:25,919 --> 00:10:29,639 really significant following. I think when I started my Only Fans, 213 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,120 I had somewhere near like two hundred thousand followers on 214 00:10:32,159 --> 00:10:33,960 Reddit and so it was easy to convert a good 215 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,639 chunk of them over. Day one was probably my best day, 216 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,000 single day ever. 217 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:39,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. 218 00:10:40,159 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, and so I felt pretty confident. I actually 219 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,600 felt overly confident because I was like, I'm gonna make 220 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,519 this much every day for the rest of my life. 221 00:10:48,879 --> 00:10:51,279 And I threw myself a giant birthday party like two 222 00:10:51,279 --> 00:10:55,039 months later in Mexico and invited all my flant friends 223 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,159 and flew them down there and hired a chef and 224 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,639 a massus and I was like, I'm the next Kardashian 225 00:11:00,879 --> 00:11:03,600 and then realize that that's like not it. I was 226 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,200 going to make every day for the rest of my life. 227 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,399 But I was pretty confident at the time. 228 00:11:07,639 --> 00:11:08,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 229 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 3: Now, being on OnlyFans for a while and other sites, 230 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,200 and you're also like on fansly, how do you keep 231 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,720 like things consistent? And because we're talking earlier and you said, 232 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,159 like your income has been pretty consistent, like how do 233 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,039 you maintain that. 234 00:11:23,159 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: I am very consistent on any page where people are paying, 235 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,759 because I value that they are wanting to give me 236 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:31,919 money for what I do, so I'm not going to 237 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,879 let them down. So I'm very consistent about posting, keeping 238 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,679 things entertaining and fun. But on social media, I am 239 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,799 not consistent. And sometimes I will go a month, maybe 240 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,679 even two, without making a single post anywhere on social media. 241 00:11:45,879 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 3: Wow. 242 00:11:46,159 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 2: And I think that a lot of people who only 243 00:11:48,759 --> 00:11:50,759 follow me on socials are like, oh, yeah, she comes 244 00:11:50,799 --> 00:11:53,600 and goes, like she must not be consistent on her 245 00:11:53,639 --> 00:11:56,720 paid pages. But I am on OnlyFans fansly every day 246 00:11:57,519 --> 00:11:59,960 for years and years, and I got some great stuff. 247 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,360 I'm there. I mean to take little chunks and scatter 248 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,000 them around, but yeah, I just I just lose the 249 00:12:07,039 --> 00:12:09,559 motivation a lot of times. And so there's another thing 250 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,519 where like, when you post on social platforms, you open 251 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,960 yourself up to a lot of negativity and a lot 252 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,120 of criticism that doesn't really happen on paid pages because 253 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,240 why would someone pay to come and insult you. 254 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've had some of those, but for the 255 00:12:23,639 --> 00:12:24,159 most part. 256 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 2: So it's it's a little bit easier to post there 257 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,200 every day and put up whatever I want, and then 258 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,120 I feel a little more drained. Sometimes if I am, I. 259 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: Just try not to a social media manager or someone 260 00:12:35,759 --> 00:12:36,320 to like help you. 261 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: I briefly I was dating a girl for a few years. 262 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,799 I briefly had her helping me with things, but then 263 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,840 she just got very busy and in that short period 264 00:12:45,879 --> 00:12:47,879 of time and she was helping me, I became emotionally 265 00:12:47,879 --> 00:12:51,200 disconnected from my work, even just sharing some of the responsibilities. 266 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,159 So no, so I just I just do it all 267 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,799 and I do what I want. And if I was 268 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,480 hurting for money, I think I'd hustle harder, and of 269 00:12:59,519 --> 00:13:01,840 course I can always make more, but I would just 270 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,440 rather do what makes me happy while I'm comfortable right now. 271 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,879 Speaker 3: I think that sometimes, and I think about I think 272 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,840 I do this a lot where I'm so like focused 273 00:13:10,919 --> 00:13:14,799 on like the career building and all of that that. Yeah, 274 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,519 I don't know if I enjoy it. Like when I 275 00:13:18,519 --> 00:13:20,919 I was thinking this to myself the other day, like, yeah, 276 00:13:21,279 --> 00:13:23,480 you know, my next goal is to buy a house, 277 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,000 right yeah, for my family. 278 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,919 Speaker 1: And it's like when I get the house, will I 279 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,000 be like satisfied. Yeah? I don't think so. 280 00:13:31,399 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 3: No, you know, I don't think like I'll ever get there, no, 281 00:13:35,159 --> 00:13:35,799 which in a. 282 00:13:35,759 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: Way you don't want to because then you lose all 283 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:38,759 this motivation and then. 284 00:13:38,639 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: You yeah, yeah, there's that too, But then it's just like, 285 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:44,159 how do you find this balance where you're motivated to 286 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,480 work and like better yourself and grow your career and 287 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:47,759 also not. 288 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 2: I think innately I have that pretty well. I don't 289 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,200 do things I don't want to do unless and you know, 290 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:55,919 if I need to, I'm gonna do the work that 291 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,360 I need to do. My dad's a really hard working person. 292 00:13:58,399 --> 00:14:00,240 My mom's a really hard working person. So I know, like, 293 00:14:00,519 --> 00:14:02,440 when it's time to work hard, you work hard. But 294 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,480 if I don't need to, I'm pretty good at just 295 00:14:04,519 --> 00:14:06,720 like respecting my time and only doing what I want. 296 00:14:06,759 --> 00:14:09,960 And I've never ever in this industry done something and 297 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,360 looked back and was like I wish I hadn't done that. 298 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: So let's talk about Reddit. 299 00:14:14,799 --> 00:14:17,799 Speaker 3: Okay, when you first started, because you started on twenty nineteen, 300 00:14:19,279 --> 00:14:21,440 what was it not safe for work? Reddit landscape like 301 00:14:21,519 --> 00:14:24,799 back then compared to now, because it's so different now. 302 00:14:24,879 --> 00:14:27,799 That used to be like the way to promote yourself. 303 00:14:27,919 --> 00:14:31,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, now I feel like it's I feel like twenty 304 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,120 nineteen was even before people really were promoting themselves. There 305 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,840 was HUT. I don't know if you remember that page. Yeah, 306 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,919 before OnlyFans got big, there was Hut. But not a 307 00:14:41,919 --> 00:14:45,480 lot of people were promoting at all on social or 308 00:14:45,559 --> 00:14:48,000 on Reddit. It was a lot of gone wild vibes 309 00:14:48,039 --> 00:14:50,840 and everyone was just putting themselves out there for the 310 00:14:50,919 --> 00:14:55,320 fun of it, and there wasn't this pressure for your 311 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,360 picture to be great, and so that made things even 312 00:14:58,399 --> 00:15:00,639 more fun, Like you just snap a picture, put it up, 313 00:15:01,039 --> 00:15:04,440 and now the landscape has so much more like promotion 314 00:15:04,559 --> 00:15:06,279 and trying to be better than the people around you 315 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,080 and try to get noticed and have the right caption, 316 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,639 and I think that that keeps people away. And then 317 00:15:11,639 --> 00:15:14,200 a lot of agencies are on there and they don't 318 00:15:14,279 --> 00:15:17,480 understand how Reddit works, but they go into Reddit anyway 319 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,279 and understanding how Reddit works, and like how subreddits work, 320 00:15:21,399 --> 00:15:24,639 and why you would post on this page not for yourself, 321 00:15:24,679 --> 00:15:27,879 but because it matches the folder, the category of what 322 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,960 it is. Reddit was created before there was like a 323 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:36,000 good search engine so that people who wanted to see 324 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,919 turtles could go to the subreddit turtles, and everyone had 325 00:15:38,919 --> 00:15:41,759 put in pictures and ideas and thoughts about turtles there, 326 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:46,000 and same for big butts or little titties or whatever. 327 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,960 And now, instead of trying to add to this community 328 00:15:51,039 --> 00:15:53,639 more things that work specifically for it for someone who 329 00:15:53,639 --> 00:15:55,799 wants to see just that thing, people just throw their 330 00:15:55,799 --> 00:15:59,559 pictures everywhere they can, trying to advertise, and that upsets 331 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,879 a lot of the people who were original Reddit users 332 00:16:01,919 --> 00:16:05,320 who are wanting to use it correctly as a hard word, 333 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,240 but as it was originally designed, and so they get angry. 334 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,759 And now there's this like anger and bitterness at the 335 00:16:12,799 --> 00:16:17,519 promotion or the selling of content, and that bitterness makes 336 00:16:17,519 --> 00:16:19,919 them kind of mean and trolly. And there's this fight 337 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,519 between the new people who someone told them they can 338 00:16:23,559 --> 00:16:25,639 see porn on Reddit, so they went there and they 339 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,159 just open up page. They're like cool porn, up vote 340 00:16:28,519 --> 00:16:31,039 and the people who are upvoting and down voting based 341 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,320 on how well this thing fits in the criteria, not 342 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,200 how much they like the thing. And it's become this 343 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,240 like warring landscape that just has a lot of negativity 344 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,759 instead of what it used to be was like, oh yeah, 345 00:16:43,799 --> 00:16:46,919 that does fit titty drop because she dropped her titties, 346 00:16:46,919 --> 00:16:48,879 So I'm gonna upvote it. It's there and if people 347 00:16:48,879 --> 00:16:50,240 want to see it, they can go see and the 348 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,480 highest voted ones are the most specific to this category. 349 00:16:53,919 --> 00:16:55,840 And it's just it's kind of lost a lot of that, 350 00:16:55,879 --> 00:16:57,679 and I feel a lot of anger from the people 351 00:16:57,679 --> 00:16:58,960 who loved Reddit in the beginning. 352 00:16:59,120 --> 00:16:59,279 Speaker 3: Yea. 353 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,879 Speaker 2: And also Redit became a public company and so they 354 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,319 change a lot of rules there. Things change everywhere all 355 00:17:05,319 --> 00:17:08,079 the time. But it used to be it felt more 356 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,279 like a safe place. It felt more like a community 357 00:17:10,279 --> 00:17:11,960 where people are trying to build each other up or 358 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,359 giving suggestions like your things go better here or there 359 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:18,680 or now. It has a lot of bitterness and anger 360 00:17:18,799 --> 00:17:20,799 and that troll vibe. Yeah. 361 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,079 Speaker 3: One thing I know that people do because I remember 362 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,000 one of my business partners was like, oh, here's an 363 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:26,880 idea for marketing. 364 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: They go into these. 365 00:17:29,759 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 3: You know pages where it's like advice yeah, and then 366 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,839 they like plant people to recommend. 367 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: Like their products yes, and be like, oh have you 368 00:17:39,759 --> 00:17:40,240 tried this? 369 00:17:40,319 --> 00:17:44,319 Speaker 3: And they're all different, like paid people to put that's 370 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,920 not an authentic post. And I can see why that 371 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,000 would be. I mean, that's incredibly disingenuous, it is, and 372 00:17:50,039 --> 00:17:51,680 I can see how they'd be infuriating. 373 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think a lot of newer people or 374 00:17:54,319 --> 00:17:58,000 people who aren't super familiar with Reddit are unbothered by that. Maybe, 375 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,039 but a lot of the people who used Reddit for 376 00:18:01,079 --> 00:18:04,039 a long time and really valued what it had to offer, 377 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:09,839 they're just they're just either leaving or unhappy about it. Yeah, 378 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,319 it's too bad. But you know, sometimes even I'm scrolling 379 00:18:13,319 --> 00:18:15,759 and I see something and I'm like, this doesn't go there. 380 00:18:15,839 --> 00:18:18,200 That's not the correct sub reddit for this, and I 381 00:18:18,279 --> 00:18:20,559 have to be like, okay, okay, like they don't know, 382 00:18:20,759 --> 00:18:24,519 or it's probably more likely a company who got a 383 00:18:24,559 --> 00:18:26,279 bunch of pictures and through the picture it's not even 384 00:18:26,319 --> 00:18:26,680 the girl. 385 00:18:26,839 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: Yeah what I mean? 386 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned that you've had like over a thousand 387 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,599 people'll touch your boobs. Yeah, and you have like boob 388 00:18:33,759 --> 00:18:34,480 meet and greets. 389 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 2: I do. 390 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: I do, And I want to hear about this because 391 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,680 I want to know why I have not been invited. 392 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 2: So I went to a v in the first year 393 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,920 a while back, and I was shocked that AVAN is 394 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:50,400 like the adult conference where you meet adult stars that 395 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,599 they like wouldn't even let us wear pasties. We had 396 00:18:52,599 --> 00:18:54,880 to have our boobs covered. No one could touch them. 397 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: I was, yeah, the casinos rules, not Evian. 398 00:18:58,559 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so interesting because I assumed there it would 399 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,039 be wild. And so the next year I was like, well, 400 00:19:04,039 --> 00:19:05,279 I got to figure out how to do this, so 401 00:19:05,319 --> 00:19:08,680 I offer my own off campus. Like this not related 402 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,640 to Avian anyway, other than it's the same time topless 403 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,000 meat and greets. It's me and a pair of panties 404 00:19:14,079 --> 00:19:17,079 with a bouncer, and you get ten minutes alone with 405 00:19:17,079 --> 00:19:20,319 me with a bouncer. But he says in the corner, 406 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,960 he doesn't really have anything to do unless I say, hell, hown, 407 00:19:23,039 --> 00:19:24,359 this is a long time, and then this is a 408 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,759 long time. People actually use the whole ten minutes or so. 409 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,559 There's two types of people. Okay, there's the person that 410 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,759 comes in like a puppy dog with puppy dog energy 411 00:19:33,759 --> 00:19:35,920 and they're like sucking on my nipple and they're like 412 00:19:36,039 --> 00:19:37,839 it's I feel like a dentist. I'm like, so, how's 413 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,880 your day and they're what, And it's like ten minutes 414 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,240 and that at like nine to fifty five. I'm like, okay, 415 00:19:45,319 --> 00:19:47,960 let's wrap it up. Like oh, there's the people that 416 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:48,920 come in so they. 417 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: Well cannot they can they can suck your boobs too. 418 00:19:51,319 --> 00:19:53,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm okay with that. I don't 419 00:19:53,599 --> 00:19:55,720 want anyone to leak leave marks. And there's a five 420 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,079 minute break between each person. I wash my boobs down 421 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,440 or anywhere else they might have touched. I don't want 422 00:20:00,519 --> 00:20:03,000 any fluid swapping. So you can't kiss me, you can't 423 00:20:03,079 --> 00:20:07,079 like there's no spit, don't touch anywhere my teeny tiny 424 00:20:07,079 --> 00:20:09,920 thong is covering, which that's like that shouldn't be that hard, 425 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,839 And just ask in general before you do anything, so 426 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,160 like that's all I ask. Like if you're gonna say, like, oh, 427 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,920 can I spank you? Can I suck your boob? I'm 428 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,440 probably gonna say yes, just just ask. Don't like catch 429 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,119 me off guard too much. It's pretty chill, but yeah. 430 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:23,839 But there's a second type of person who needs that 431 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,920 ten minutes because they come in and they're very uncomfortable 432 00:20:27,519 --> 00:20:29,319 and I greet you at the door and I'm like, hi, 433 00:20:29,799 --> 00:20:31,400 I already know your name, and you get to tell 434 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,359 me a little bit about you before you come, and 435 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,880 I give you a big hug, and they're used to 436 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,319 be like, oh my gosh, a topless person is hugging 437 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,480 me right now, and like you can just feel like 438 00:20:39,519 --> 00:20:42,400 their anxiety and then probably a minute like two or three, 439 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,039 like I welcome them in, I sit them down, I 440 00:20:44,039 --> 00:20:46,519 sit on their lap, like we're talking. For a second, 441 00:20:46,599 --> 00:20:49,559 I like sign a picture. I'm trying to like feel 442 00:20:49,599 --> 00:20:52,000 them out a little bit. You can feel the anxiety 443 00:20:52,079 --> 00:20:54,599 come off. And then I'm like, so you're here from 444 00:20:54,599 --> 00:20:56,079 my tits. Do you want to touch them? You want 445 00:20:56,079 --> 00:20:58,680 to do this and some people want to do it 446 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,160 for a second. Some people want to do it for 447 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,559 a minute and they're like wow. So I try to 448 00:21:02,599 --> 00:21:05,240 tailor it a little bit towards the person, and if 449 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,039 at any point in time I get a little touched out, 450 00:21:07,079 --> 00:21:08,880 I'm like, okay, that was enough for me, you know. 451 00:21:09,039 --> 00:21:12,279 But for the most part, I love it. They love it. 452 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,160 I've never had a single person be like that wasn't 453 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,160 what I was hoping for. They're usually like, wow, I 454 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:23,039 will see you next year, so hoping for yeah. 455 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's crazy. I'm sure you get people 456 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,039 who try to like who would like to take it further. 457 00:21:27,599 --> 00:21:30,799 Speaker 2: I've only had one in all the years, the hundreds 458 00:21:30,839 --> 00:21:35,400 of people, I had one person and he he was like, 459 00:21:35,519 --> 00:21:37,680 I really want to suck on your toes and I 460 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,920 said no, I just it just sounded like a lot. 461 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:42,400 And he's like, can I rub your feet? And I 462 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,480 was like okay, sure. So he gets on the ground, 463 00:21:44,519 --> 00:21:46,559 he's rubbing my feet and then he takes my foot 464 00:21:46,559 --> 00:21:49,240 like a sub boy sandwich and shoves it into the 465 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,160 top and I was like okay, no, no, no no, 466 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,799 and I'm like trying to push his head and like 467 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,359 my foot is in his mouth. I was like, okay, sir, 468 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,400 that's enough of that, Like no, no, no, no. And 469 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,039 that was the only time I was like, okay, bouncer, 470 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,599 please help. And he came over and he was like dude, 471 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,599 you guys, you gotta go. He's like no, he was 472 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:13,160 like just like yeah, full on deep throating my foot. Wow. 473 00:22:13,279 --> 00:22:13,559 Speaker 1: I was. 474 00:22:13,839 --> 00:22:16,039 Speaker 2: I was a little shocked. And that was my first 475 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,079 year and nowadays that someone them was like I wanna 476 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,599 suck your toes, I'd probably back. I go for it. It's 477 00:22:20,559 --> 00:22:23,400 like a suck a toe. But I was like just 478 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,039 really thrown off and the aggressiveness of it, and I 479 00:22:26,079 --> 00:22:28,680 had already said no, and it was just like it 480 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,440 wasn't hurting me. It was just really freaky. And so yeah, 481 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,400 but he was an interesting fellow to begin with, because 482 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,400 the bouncer has everyone like empty all their pockets, feels 483 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,359 them down first, make sure they're not gonna like bring 484 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,559 a gun or a knife or something in. And that 485 00:22:41,599 --> 00:22:44,559 guy he's emptying his pockets and according to the bouncer, 486 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,519 he's pulling women's used pianies out of all these pockets. 487 00:22:47,759 --> 00:22:49,559 And he also had a briefcase and he's like, we 488 00:22:49,599 --> 00:22:51,279 have to look through your birth He opened it. It's 489 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,279 just chockful, he said, there's probably like hundreds of pairs 490 00:22:54,279 --> 00:22:57,359 of used women's underwear shoved into all his pockets out 491 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,359 his breethcase. I think he was going around van or 492 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,240 something and just like buying as many use pairs of 493 00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:05,279 underwear as possible. I get it. 494 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 3: It didn't at his briefcase. He had to start shoving 495 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,359 it like in his socks and shirt. 496 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: And you think if you. 497 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,319 Speaker 2: Had someone's anywhere you wanted to like this goes with 498 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:15,880 that girl and I'm gonna smell and think of her. 499 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,599 But it was just like so many like squished in 500 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,240 pairs of dirty underwear. So like already, I think the 501 00:23:22,279 --> 00:23:25,519 bouncer knew bringing this person in, like he's a little different. 502 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,720 We're like I'm pretty open. You can be as weird 503 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,440 as you want with me, and if it's not my thing, 504 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,599 I'll just say yeah, yeah, no thanks, but cool for you. 505 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,799 And so I was rolling with it, but I was 506 00:23:36,839 --> 00:23:38,720 not expecting that it was the one and only time 507 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,880 where I felt overwhelmed. 508 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,319 Speaker 3: I can't keep the visual out of my head of 509 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,000 this guy like just like yeah, devouring your foot and 510 00:23:48,079 --> 00:23:49,839 like refusing. 511 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: To take it. 512 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 2: And it was like it's big. I mean it's not. 513 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,400 It's a normal you're like a girl. Yeah, I mean 514 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,720 I have pretty small feet for tall girl, but still 515 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,079 the whole seven and a half look. 516 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,279 Speaker 1: The fuck out of here, but a whole foot. I'm 517 00:24:02,279 --> 00:24:04,599 a ten and I'm not as tall as you. 518 00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 2: I think I was supposed to be shorter. And I 519 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,160 have these like few extra vertebrates here that add like 520 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,599 three inches to me. I have some like extra vertebrae 521 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,000 right here. 522 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: Oh really, and. 523 00:24:16,279 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, i'll show you later. My back is a little interesting. 524 00:24:18,799 --> 00:24:21,319 So there's like wear your back like curves. Yeah, and 525 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,559 then there's my tailbone and there's this extra chunk in 526 00:24:23,599 --> 00:24:25,720 there that just does kind of man, it doesn't make sense. 527 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,119 Someone told me it's called a Germanic spine or something 528 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,640 like that once and I was like, okay, so I 529 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,240 think I was supposed to be about like three or 530 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,359 four inches shorter and I just got that. But like, yeah, 531 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,720 my hands and feet are kind of small, my face 532 00:24:37,799 --> 00:24:40,400 is like a little bit small on like how tall 533 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,160 I am and everything. 534 00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but not your Yeah that's true. 535 00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 2: Those happened, but anyway, it's not like an abnormally large foot. 536 00:24:48,079 --> 00:24:51,799 But but it was a in his mouth I can't 537 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,759 and then like so far back I can't. Yeah, it 538 00:24:56,799 --> 00:24:59,920 was I was shocked. Oh but you know it makes 539 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:00,720 a good story. 540 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely does. That is one going to be 541 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,519 a real check out. All right, let's talk about the 542 00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:09,319 Mile High Club. 543 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 2: Oh that was a fun one. I often have people 544 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,119 ask me what's on your bucket list? Nothing, because if 545 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,880 there was something on my bucket list, I'd just do it. 546 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,519 I could see that if I wanted to do something, 547 00:25:22,079 --> 00:25:25,279 I do it. Although always had multiple partners and poly AMers, 548 00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:27,480 I have, I have friends with benefits, I have people 549 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,240 i'm dating. There's someone I'm gonna be able to do 550 00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:31,640 something with if I came up with something wild that 551 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,119 I really wanted to do and they didn't want to 552 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,839 I could find someone right. So the only thing for 553 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,119 a while was getting on the Mile High Club because 554 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,759 that you can't just like just do you know. You 555 00:25:41,839 --> 00:25:43,759 might have a boyfriend or a girlfriend or whatever, but 556 00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:46,599 it's hard to get in the playing bathroom and have sex. 557 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: It's hard to get in the plane bathroom just one person. 558 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 2: It is so so being something on my bucket list. 559 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,680 We kind of planned it out. We had a long 560 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,079 flight to Miami, it was overnight. We were going to 561 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,319 go to the front of the airplane. There's a handicap bathroom. 562 00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:04,559 We're both tall people. I'm almost six foot tall. It's 563 00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:06,279 like it's kind of hot. So there's a handicap bathroom. 564 00:26:06,279 --> 00:26:08,480 So we're all we're really excited and we're nervous. They're 565 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,440 waiting for the right moment, like everyone seems to be sleeping. 566 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: We get up. 567 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 2: We go to this handicap bathroom in the front. So 568 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,319 like I get on my knees, I pull his pants down. 569 00:26:16,319 --> 00:26:17,960 I'm like trying to suck his dick. He's not really 570 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,359 getting hard. We're both super nervous. We're like nothing's really working. 571 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,920 And then I like try to bend over and he's 572 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,960 like trying to put it in me, and it's just 573 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,119 not really happening, and like I don't have loom and 574 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,519 I'm kind of dry and I'm nervous and like we're 575 00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:33,279 both just stressed. And then we can hear the flight 576 00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:36,039 attendants right outside talking and they're like right outside the door, 577 00:26:36,079 --> 00:26:38,599 and we're like, oh my gosh, we're like so stressed 578 00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:40,799 out and it's just not gonna happen. And we're like 579 00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:43,799 minutes and we're like five to ten minutes into trying this, 580 00:26:43,839 --> 00:26:45,839 and we're like we have to call it. We're gonna 581 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,480 we're gonna call it, like you're your dick touched me. 582 00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:51,359 So we join the Moha club. We're calling it, yeah, 583 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,640 And I send him out and I wait like a 584 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,039 few minutes and then I leave and it's so awkward, 585 00:26:56,079 --> 00:26:58,480 and the flight attendant like is there and it's very 586 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,119 clear yeah, And I go back to my seat and 587 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,519 like we're letting the anxiety shake off, and we're like 588 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,240 it's kind of hot though, right Like we just snuck 589 00:27:06,279 --> 00:27:08,240 into the bathroom and they were sitting there like and 590 00:27:08,279 --> 00:27:10,359 we were planning out having sex and we are kind 591 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,640 of horny, but we can't go back to that from 592 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,839 a bathroom again because it's so then one went to 593 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,039 the back of the plane. Like fifteen minutes later, we 594 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,240 go to the backplane and the only option is this 595 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,119 teeny little bathroom stall, and we shove ourselves into this 596 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,519 tiny bathroom stall. At this point, he's hard, he's so horney. 597 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,519 I'm ready to go. We like turn me around, he 598 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,920 like fox me really good. And then he pulls out 599 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,519 and like I doesn't know what to do because he 600 00:27:35,559 --> 00:27:37,279 can't go on me because I'm like holding my clothes up. 601 00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:40,240 So we came all over like the sink and the mirror. 602 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,640 It's just like a giant mess. And I'm like, good job, 603 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,559 get out of here. And shoved him out and they're 604 00:27:45,559 --> 00:27:47,880 like cleaned up the bathroom. Were sitting and they're like, oh, 605 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,920 we did it, and uh yeah, we had some great 606 00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:55,640 albeit maybe only two minutes sex in the back of 607 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,920 the airplane. So technically we fucked in two bathrooms on 608 00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:59,920 the same airplane. 609 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,559 Speaker 1: But you were just being around. 610 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,839 Speaker 3: I mean, it was just being too particular about the 611 00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:05,400 how did you guys both fit in there? 612 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: It was tight. 613 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: So there's like the toilet, so my legs are right 614 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,440 in front of the toilet, and he's standings his butt 615 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,240 to the door maybe and I got my hands on 616 00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:15,319 the toilet and it's kind of doggy, but right right 617 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,279 I'm standing Yeah yeah. 618 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, I've never joined the moment. I succeeded, but 619 00:28:21,079 --> 00:28:22,599 I don't see it happening, and I'm okay with that. 620 00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a lot of anxiety, but the anxiety's fun, 621 00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:27,559 and I don't get that takes a lot to like 622 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:28,799 make me feel nervous. 623 00:28:29,319 --> 00:28:30,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can see that. 624 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was fun. It was fun to feel that. 625 00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 3: Like, ah, so I want to talk about your that 626 00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:41,240 your your polyamorous relationships. Yeah, you describe yourself as being 627 00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:44,240 very open, like emotionally and physically, so like, how did 628 00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:45,279 you or when did. 629 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,359 Speaker 1: You realize that, like polyamory was the way for you? 630 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,839 Speaker 2: Totally? When I was fourteen, Oh wow, there was this 631 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,119 guy I liked and he wanted to be my boyfriend, 632 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,519 and as you do when you're young, I thought, well, 633 00:28:56,559 --> 00:28:59,400 we're gonna get married and then I will never I 634 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,079 had hadn't slept with anyone by him. He was my first, 635 00:29:02,359 --> 00:29:04,359 and I was like, he's going to be the only 636 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,680 person I sleep with for the rest of my life. Fourteen, 637 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,319 and I was like, what what if we just were 638 00:29:11,359 --> 00:29:14,079 open and we didn't have words for it. We were 639 00:29:14,119 --> 00:29:18,079 in the middle of nowhere, farm country, Midwest, were kids. No, 640 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,079 there was no examples in my life. I didn't know 641 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,920 anybody with an open relationship, but I just wanted to 642 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,359 make sure I still had some experiences. And that thought 643 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,880 sort of was like, until we get married or whatever, 644 00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:32,799 let's be open, let's do what we want, let's not 645 00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:36,359 turn down opportunities. And we sort of figured it out 646 00:29:36,599 --> 00:29:41,240 on our own and it just felt right. It made 647 00:29:41,319 --> 00:29:44,759 him feel like my best friend because when I wanted 648 00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:46,359 to do something, I could tell him, or when I 649 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,880 did something, I could tell him, Or if I thought 650 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,480 someone was cute, I could tell him, or if someone 651 00:29:49,519 --> 00:29:51,240 hit on me, I could tell him. And I got 652 00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:54,799 like this high five energy rather than like jealousy, and 653 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,119 it was really awesome. And when him I eventually broke up, 654 00:29:58,279 --> 00:30:00,799 I just was like, this is the only way for me. 655 00:30:01,559 --> 00:30:04,640 And going forward, I would tell people ahead of time, like, yeah, 656 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,680 I'd love to be your partner, but I'm already seeing someone, 657 00:30:07,759 --> 00:30:09,839 or I'm only willing to do this if you know 658 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,079 that I might find someone else in the future. And 659 00:30:13,319 --> 00:30:17,759 there's many levels of openness, from the most strict monogamy 660 00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:21,039 to my monogamish to like people who will only do 661 00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:23,839 physical things with other people, or people will only allow flirting, 662 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,960 or people who are I'm like, as far as it goes, 663 00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:29,880 like my partners can be in love with someone else, 664 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,519 they can have lives with someone else also as long 665 00:30:33,559 --> 00:30:36,559 as they genuinely are my best friend and they're still 666 00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:39,039 going to come back and support me. And so at 667 00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:43,000 this point in my life, even when I get married 668 00:30:43,119 --> 00:30:45,880 or like settle down in the future, I'm still going 669 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,440 to be polyamorous. Like I just know it is so 670 00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:51,640 correct for me. And I've always I've had little chunks 671 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,759 of time where I was single, but in that moment 672 00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:56,559 I still felt like I am a polyamorous person. And 673 00:30:56,599 --> 00:30:58,759 times where I was only dating one people person and 674 00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:00,880 times where I was dating three. That's the max I've 675 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,000 ever done. That's hard scheduling wise, just finding time to 676 00:31:04,039 --> 00:31:08,559 have real relationships. But yeah, yeah, I just I truly 677 00:31:08,599 --> 00:31:09,119 believe in it. 678 00:31:09,319 --> 00:31:09,519 Speaker 1: Yeah. 679 00:31:09,519 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you because so many people have 680 00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:16,039 different like forms of polyamory and and like what makes 681 00:31:16,079 --> 00:31:17,960 sense for them, Like I know, like Carla Lane, is 682 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,400 married to one guy, but then like Moe is her boyfriend, 683 00:31:21,559 --> 00:31:23,519 and then I think, I feel like. 684 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: She's got another one. Yeah, she's got. 685 00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 3: Three and yeah, I know, I know, right, And I 686 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,799 was like, how do you, like like Valentine's Day? 687 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,599 Speaker 1: Right, Like how do you schedule that? Like who? What's 688 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:34,400 the hierarchy? 689 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,119 Speaker 2: And I know people do have hierarchies on people don't. 690 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think for her her husband is yeah, but 691 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:43,880 don't quote me on that. 692 00:31:44,839 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 3: And then like like Susie and Michael Vegas, like they 693 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,720 live together, but it's same thing, like they don't really 694 00:31:52,759 --> 00:31:54,759 believe in like primary. 695 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: Cares necessarily, you know what I mean. 696 00:31:57,599 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 3: It's a lot of pressure to be somebody's only one, Yeah, 697 00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:02,119 you know what I mean, and to be. 698 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,759 Speaker 1: Like I think, I think we're a lot. 699 00:32:03,799 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 3: And this is actually speaking from someone who's married and 700 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,440 who is monogamous, and I've only ever been monogamous, and 701 00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:09,680 that's what makes sense. 702 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: For me totally. 703 00:32:10,279 --> 00:32:12,279 Speaker 3: But I think that like where a lot of people 704 00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:16,119 may have run into issues is when they try to 705 00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:18,839 make one person everything to them. And when I say everything, 706 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,160 there's like all these different needs that we have. There's sexual, 707 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:28,039 there's emotional, there's like mental there's like security, you know, 708 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,000 like all of these things, and you know, I think 709 00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:35,359 that one person can't really be all of that to you. 710 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,640 And whether like friends or family members like meet those 711 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,319 other needs. I think that's that's important to to I 712 00:32:43,359 --> 00:32:46,880 don't know, I just feel like that makes. 713 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: If I ate my favorite food all the time, would 714 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,319 it be weird if I suddenly wanted to eat something else, 715 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,759 Like it's the thing that I'd still be my favorite food, 716 00:32:53,759 --> 00:32:56,359 but if it's the only food I ever get to 717 00:32:56,359 --> 00:33:00,200 eat them, Yeah, But there's not a right way to 718 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,319 do a relationship. I am all four people being super 719 00:33:04,359 --> 00:33:07,880 monogamous or super open. I just say there is wrong 720 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,400 ways to do it and to do each of the kinds. 721 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,519 And I think if you're polyamorous, it comes with a 722 00:33:13,559 --> 00:33:16,359 set of challenges that that are really hard to handle. 723 00:33:16,359 --> 00:33:18,599 But monogamy also comes with a set of challenges that 724 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,400 are really hard to handle. And it just always made 725 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,920 sense to me that if this person is really my 726 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,720 best friend and I have to hide things from them 727 00:33:26,759 --> 00:33:28,680 because it's going to hurt their feelings, like that I 728 00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:29,799 like someone or even. 729 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: Just that I kind of fantasy. 730 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:38,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I just wanted even if I got boring 731 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,079 and I just stayed with one person for the rest 732 00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:41,200 of my life. I want to be able to tell 733 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,519 that person like that guy is hot, or like I 734 00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:45,559 want to put this girl's hits in my face, like 735 00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:48,079 and I want them to not have this knee jerk 736 00:33:48,119 --> 00:33:50,480 reaction of like, oh no, I'm going to lose her. 737 00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:53,920 Like my partners know that when I go away, I 738 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,119 come back, they're never going to lose me. And I'm 739 00:33:56,119 --> 00:33:58,319 probably going to come back in a way that I'm like, 740 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,920 thank you so much for allowing in this situation, like 741 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,440 I fell closer to you. So yeah, that's that's what 742 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,440 I want. But it doesn't mean that it's right. 743 00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:10,119 Speaker 3: I mean, I think so many people unfortunately, like their 744 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:13,960 relationships are based on fear right and like an ownership 745 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,760 and like fear of losing and that kind. 746 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 2: Of supporting their partner fully right. 747 00:34:18,119 --> 00:34:20,199 Speaker 3: Because that I was I've been married before, and the 748 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,199 first guy I was married it was very possessive of me, 749 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,679 was very fearful, like he didn't like that I had 750 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,719 male friends and like all this kind of stuff, and 751 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,920 that pushed me away even more, like the more tightly 752 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,480 he tried to cling to me, like the more I 753 00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:34,639 pulled away because I was like, this is not what 754 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,760 I want, whereas my current partner is. 755 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: Like trust me. 756 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 2: They can't trust your partner, Yeah. 757 00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 3: I mean he's you know, I don't think he's ever 758 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,360 been jealous ever of anyone, and he's no reason to me, 759 00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:49,280 you know. 760 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: And I feel the same way. 761 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 3: Like I also like we just implicitly trust each other completely, 762 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,360 and I think that that's a really strong foundation for 763 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,360 most relationships. And I think a lot of people don't 764 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,320 have that because they probably didn't. And I think a 765 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,400 lot of it also comes down to like sex education, 766 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,719 shame around sexuality, shame around desire, non communication. 767 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,119 Speaker 2: But that says a lot about you that you're making 768 00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:15,159 your partner feel secure also, because if you weren't actively 769 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,440 making sure that he felt secure, he would feel insecurities. 770 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,599 And I think a lot of people who like they're 771 00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:24,840 feeling jealousy and they think it's like inside of them, 772 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,199 but it's not. It's a need that's not being met, 773 00:35:27,199 --> 00:35:29,679 and their partner needs to make sure that they're meeting 774 00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:33,519 that need that they feel secure. And if you can't 775 00:35:33,559 --> 00:35:35,519 meet that need and make your partner feel secure, then 776 00:35:35,519 --> 00:35:37,599 you're not ready for a relationship with that person. 777 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 778 00:35:38,119 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, So anyways, moving on from the Dating Dating podcast, Yeah, 779 00:35:44,119 --> 00:35:46,159 let's talk about your first cooking experience. 780 00:35:47,159 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 2: This is one of my wilder stories. 781 00:35:49,119 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know, man, that foot guy. 782 00:35:52,599 --> 00:35:53,559 Does it get better than that? 783 00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 2: I mean, this one's wilder than that. I think a 784 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,559 lot of people if they were like, yeah, some dude 785 00:35:58,599 --> 00:36:01,039 shoved his my in his mouth, they'd be like that 786 00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:04,199 was a weird experience, but it wasn't like as weird 787 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,079 as coucking. Yeah right, like how many people. Anyway, I'm 788 00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:10,719 going to tell the story. Well, I was open and 789 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,519 I met this guy and we were together for a while, 790 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,400 and he never was like enjoying sex as much I 791 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,280 think most people do. And so eventually we're talking about 792 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,679 it and he's like, well, what I really am into 793 00:36:25,519 --> 00:36:29,639 is watching somebody like get fucked. And I was like, oh, okay, 794 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,599 never heard of this, Like this is interesting, tell me 795 00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:33,880 about it. And he's like, it would really do it 796 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,159 for me, girl, who I've only been dating for a 797 00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:39,480 couple months, to watch you take a big black dick. 798 00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:44,000 And I'm from a small town. I hadn't really seen 799 00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:46,280 a big dick of any color at this point. So 800 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,559 I didn't know quite what to expect. And I was like, oh, okay, interesting. 801 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,000 For as wild as I am, I'm a pretty vanilla 802 00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:58,000 sex girl. I have pretty like calm, loving intimacy. And 803 00:36:58,039 --> 00:36:59,400 I was like, you know what, if he wants me 804 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,960 to try this, let's let's do it. I'm gonna I'm 805 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,840 gonna take a bed black dick. So I think we're 806 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,559 gonna like interview people. I don't know how you figure 807 00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:07,440 this one out. 808 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,599 Speaker 1: You've got like a clipboard, right, So we're talking. 809 00:37:09,639 --> 00:37:12,199 Speaker 2: He's like, cool, So I've got this friend and we 810 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,079 could go to his house right now. And I was 811 00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:19,400 like say what, oh, right now? Okay, So we get 812 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,239 in the car. We're driving over there. Still I'm thinking 813 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,840 we're gonna talk to this person, right, He's like, give 814 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,760 his friend's heads up. We get there, we go inside. 815 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,760 The friend like starts a house tour AND's like, and 816 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,559 this is my bedroom, let's have sex. I was like, 817 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,000 I just met you like seconds ago, what is even happening? 818 00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:39,719 But I was just down for the roller cost of it. 819 00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:42,840 He was a good looking guy. Yeah, okay yeah, and 820 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,440 so I was like, all right, let's talk. How does 821 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,280 this work? So the guy I'm sort of starting to date, 822 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,840 is like he's jacking off in the corner and this 823 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:55,039 guy just starts like fucking me with this giant dick. 824 00:37:55,079 --> 00:37:57,599 And I'm not a big dick girlyer, and I'm like, 825 00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:02,360 whoa bring exploding and trying to put on a show. 826 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,800 This was before contents. I don't know what I'm doing. 827 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,559 I'm like, you liking this? He's like at one point 828 00:38:08,559 --> 00:38:11,039 he's like standing over my face jerking off, and the 829 00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:13,000 guy's fucking me on the edge of the bed. It 830 00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:15,800 was wild. He was like flipping me around, doing all 831 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,360 the crazy sex things that I hadn't even seen. I 832 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,039 was fairly young, and I was from a small town, 833 00:38:20,039 --> 00:38:23,119 and I was like, what is happening? Like it was 834 00:38:23,159 --> 00:38:26,360 a whole production that now that I am in porn 835 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,159 a little bit, I probably would be unfazed by. But 836 00:38:28,199 --> 00:38:30,559 at the time, I was like, it was so wild. 837 00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:33,280 And then the guy was with came, he had his orgasm. 838 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,000 He was like that was wonderful. And then I said 839 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,000 to the guy who's sucking me, like are you planing 840 00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:42,440 and coming? He's like, well, I like really like sweet 841 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,280 intimate sex, and I was like, so do I so 842 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,159 then my boyfriend and he's like, oh god, I'm danging 843 00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:50,840 it has already come. He's just kind of standing there 844 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,159 and this guy like gets on top and like lovingly 845 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,280 fucking me, and I'm down there like this was the 846 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,000 most weird day of life. 847 00:38:58,119 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: So they completely flipped. 848 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,119 Speaker 2: It was so yeah. And then he came pretty fast, 849 00:39:01,159 --> 00:39:03,000 so that worked for him to be like hold cradling 850 00:39:03,039 --> 00:39:05,880 my face and like going for it. I was like, huh, interesting, 851 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,800 and then he was a really nice guy, but I 852 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,400 was sort of it. Then we just left and I 853 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,440 didn't really connect with him or get to know him 854 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,800 at all. And then I got to work the next 855 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,000 day as was working at a hospital and he comes 856 00:39:18,039 --> 00:39:21,320 walking down the hallway and he also worked there in 857 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:26,840 a different department. No, and I'm like, oh way, no, yes, 858 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,519 and so yeah, so we worked together, but not like 859 00:39:31,559 --> 00:39:34,119 we didn't actually have to work together, but we saw 860 00:39:34,159 --> 00:39:37,800 each other. And I assume this is a thing that 861 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,199 they had done before based on how quickly that they 862 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,719 threw this together. But for me, I was like I 863 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,519 can't believe that happened. And I'm gonna like smile and 864 00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:50,639 just be like hi, so and so like not weird 865 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,320 all the time and hilarious. 866 00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: Yeah wow. Was he surprised to see you too? 867 00:39:57,119 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I think so because he was like in 868 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,880 a management position at that point. I was like a 869 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,199 new person, and I think there was a feeling of like, 870 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,840 oh uh oh, but I mean all is well. Everything 871 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,880 was super consensual, Everything was honestly super fun, really nice guy. 872 00:40:11,199 --> 00:40:13,880 I ended up not continuing to date the guy who 873 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,559 wanted to be cooked, but we actually stayed really good friends. 874 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,719 And he got married and has a baby and sends 875 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,280 me updates about his family and so we're still good. 876 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:22,760 Speaker 1: Everything. 877 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 2: This new wif cook with him, I think so, I 878 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,039 would assume so, but I don't know. I didn't ask. 879 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:32,000 I don't They're not super open. But actually, though when 880 00:40:32,559 --> 00:40:34,199 I hope he's okay with me telling you we're not 881 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,119 share names. So when he and his now wife but 882 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,519 then girlfriend came and met me and a partner I 883 00:40:40,599 --> 00:40:43,119 was dating, he said to my boyfriend he's like, she 884 00:40:43,199 --> 00:40:46,280 really likes being molested, and my boyfriend was like, what 885 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,000 did you just like end me this girl? So, yeah, 886 00:40:50,039 --> 00:40:52,719 he's an interesting fellow but really fun. I have a 887 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,840 great friendship with him, and uh, I don't look back 888 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,360 on it. With any bad feelings, but BOYD did it 889 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,760 blow my mind at the time. Yeah? 890 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah, I just I. 891 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 2: Went along on that roller coaster. 892 00:41:05,079 --> 00:41:08,599 Speaker 3: So that that leads me to my next question. Are 893 00:41:08,639 --> 00:41:11,920 you considering doing boy girl for your pages? Are you 894 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,679 doing boy girl for your pages? Like it's coming. 895 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question. So I put out my 896 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,760 first ever blowjob video, just started testing the waters, and 897 00:41:22,199 --> 00:41:23,800 now in July, I feel. 898 00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 1: Like it did well. 899 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 2: It didn't do bad, people liked it. But then people 900 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,360 are like, okay more or like do you have this, 901 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,840 or like I want to see you get facial or 902 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,800 I want to see you get a cream pire, and 903 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,480 I'm like, there's a good chunk of time between that 904 00:41:35,559 --> 00:41:37,880 video coming out and then like now I'm like, okay, 905 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,639 I'm officially ready for the next step. We're gonna put 906 00:41:39,679 --> 00:41:42,800 out full sex videos starting in July. So I gave 907 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,360 myself a little time. We're going to make sure we 908 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,719 have just something I feel really good about that actually 909 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,760 represents my real sex life. And it's coming. Yeah, it's coming. 910 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,400 And people have been asking about this since twenty nineteen, 911 00:41:54,559 --> 00:41:56,360 like when's it going to happen. I've always been like, 912 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,119 it is going to happen, but it's not going to 913 00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:01,079 happen now, and I don't I don't know when, because 914 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,639 I won't do anything until I'm like sure I want it, 915 00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:06,239 and then I'm like so sure that I wish I 916 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,760 had already done it, And so I'm at that point, 917 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,119 I'm like, I'm totally if I had that out there 918 00:42:11,199 --> 00:42:13,000 right now, i'd feel great about it. So I'm ready 919 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,239 and it's going to come out. 920 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like you're really good at establishing boundaries 921 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,360 and like moving at your pace that you're comfortable with. 922 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,280 But is there anything that you wish you had known 923 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,440 before starting in this industry that you know now? 924 00:42:25,679 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 2: There are some people in the industry who are very genuine, 925 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,039 and I've become very good friends with them, and I 926 00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:33,800 sort of went into it thinking everyone could be that person, 927 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,840 and I overshare. I have no filter, I have no 928 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,639 real desire for privacy on pretty much anything, and I 929 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,480 let people in. I give them a lot of information 930 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,639 or I jump right into things with people, and some 931 00:42:48,679 --> 00:42:53,039 people weren't so genuine, and I think that I don't 932 00:42:53,079 --> 00:42:54,679 know if I would have wished I had my guard up, 933 00:42:54,679 --> 00:42:57,639 but I would have. I wish I would have maybe 934 00:42:57,679 --> 00:43:00,480 consulted with somebody who's already in the industry, like who 935 00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:02,960 is a good person to trust or to be vulnerable 936 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,320 with or to do videos with or things like that, 937 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,880 and who would make good friends. And I have found 938 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,000 that through my own way that some people are really 939 00:43:13,039 --> 00:43:15,519 awesome and I have such deep friendships with them that 940 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,599 we're hanging out all the time, no cameras around. But yeah, 941 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:25,400 as someone who is very open that not everyone is 942 00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:29,079 so trustworthy, and coming from a small crown, they are 943 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,599 more trustworthy people. I feel like, because you screw one 944 00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:35,039 person over, there's only fifty people you can be friends with. 945 00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:38,000 You lost one out here, you can lose as many 946 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,639 friends as you want and make new friends. And I 947 00:43:39,639 --> 00:43:40,039 think that that. 948 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,159 Speaker 3: I think it's also like that mentality of like ambition, 949 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,519 like no matter what, yeah, yeah, yeah right, and so 950 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,639 like personal relationships don't matter as long as like you're 951 00:43:48,679 --> 00:43:51,440 planning that ladder to get to whatever career pinnacle a 952 00:43:51,519 --> 00:43:52,000 year after. 953 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, if I had known that and then I had 954 00:43:55,519 --> 00:43:58,239 more of a guard up, that would be sad in 955 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,920 its own way. So I'm not hurt necessarily. So I 956 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,159 guess my advice to someone else would just be like 957 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,800 to know that you're probably going to get screwed over 958 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,800 a few times and just be ready and that's okay, right, 959 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,760 that's okay. You're gonna have your heart open and you're 960 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,719 gonna meet some really awesome people. 961 00:44:12,559 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 3: And you know you're gonna learn from it. I mean, 962 00:44:14,039 --> 00:44:16,639 I've been I've totally been fucked over in this industry, 963 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,239 but I think, like it's just business, you. 964 00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, it just happens, and I learned from it 965 00:44:21,039 --> 00:44:22,639 a little bit, and then I'm like, I wish I 966 00:44:22,639 --> 00:44:25,880 hadn't learned from it because I liked I liked the innocence, 967 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,400 and I want to keep meeting people and giving them 968 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:30,719 that innocent version of myself. 969 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 970 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I hope that you never become jaded because. 971 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 2: Thank you as you are just so lovely. Thank you 972 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:38,880 very much. 973 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,679 Speaker 1: Yeah well, Ellie, thank you so much for coming on. 974 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,079 It's been such a pleasure to get to know you. 975 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,320 Speaker 3: We're going to do a separate segment for my Patreon members, 976 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,840 and I think we're also these are questions that are 977 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,880 sent in from my patrons. Only people who are members 978 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,360 of my Patreon can send these questions in, and then 979 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,000 we're also I think we're going to do a little 980 00:44:59,039 --> 00:45:03,039 segment for my OWFT channel maybe yes, yes, okay, So 981 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,079 can you tell everybody where they can find you online 982 00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:07,039 in the meantime. 983 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,639 Speaker 2: Right now, my link tree is the best place to go. 984 00:45:08,679 --> 00:45:10,719 It's link tree slash Ellie James and it'll show you 985 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,000 what I have available. You can buy me then on 986 00:45:14,039 --> 00:45:18,320 Instagram or my Only fans and Fansly. I love Fansly. 987 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,199 They let me do so many things and they're so 988 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,880 much more genuine than only fans. Please go there. 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