WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:11.160 A little bumper music from my friends who listened in Mexico. 2 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:14.919 Can I see us put uscachas to podcast? No, I 3 00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:17.760 don't speak Spanish. I looked it up on Google, but 4 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:21.039 I do hope you enjoyed this podcast. All right, here 5 00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:32.840 we go. This email is titled the Mount Vernon Monster 6 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:37.280 and then there's a hyphen and it says deer impaled 7 00:00:37.479 --> 00:00:41.960 on a metal fence post. Here is a story about 8 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:46.320 a cryptid that terrorized an area right near George Washington's 9 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:50.840 historic farm, Mount Vernon way back in the late nineteen seventies. 10 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:54.159 I lived about two to three miles, as the crow flies, 11 00:00:54.240 --> 00:00:57.880 from where these events happened at that time. While I 12 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:00.840 never saw it, I did see and hear evidence of it, 13 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:05.040 including a deer impaled on a metal fence post less 14 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:07.719 than one hundred yards from my house. Now, I've done 15 00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:09.879 a lot of research into this, and I've been able 16 00:01:09.879 --> 00:01:13.239 to piece together some very interesting evidence, both from what 17 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:18.200 I saw and experienced as well as from others. From 18 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:23.239 nineteen seventy eight until nineteen seventy nine, nocturnal screams were 19 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:26.079 heard from a patch of woods one mile from the 20 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:29.560 historic home of George Washington, and there was at least 21 00:01:29.560 --> 00:01:32.640 one sighting in that area of a creature six feet 22 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:37.760 tall and covered with hair. Thelma Crisp saw it. See 23 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:42.560 the link to the Washington Post article. Children were scared 24 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:46.079 to death, and dogs went nuts barking, and people were 25 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:50.680 freaked out. By May of nineteen seventy nine, Fairfax County 26 00:01:50.719 --> 00:01:53.640 Police had had enough, so they brought out a park 27 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:57.239 police chopper with search lights and they searched one hundred 28 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:01.879 acres of woods bordering Union Farm with six policemen with 29 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:05.159 radios in the woods ready to signal the chopper, but 30 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:09.759 they never found anything. This created such a stir that 31 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:13.479 in nineteen seventy nine, The Washington Post wrote an article 32 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:16.599 on it. I'm going to mention a few links through 33 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:20.039 this man's research in his email to me. They're all 34 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:22.439 going to be linked in the description below. You guys 35 00:02:22.479 --> 00:02:26.400 can go read them. In addition, here is audio of 36 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:31.159 the actual screams recorded in nineteen eighty. Go to the 37 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:34.520 end of the interview and there are multiple recordings of it. 38 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:37.639 Go to the one hour, twenty minute and fifty two 39 00:02:37.800 --> 00:02:41.360 second mark. There'll be a YouTube link in the description. 40 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:45.319 Police didn't want to talk about it. Many people claimed 41 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:48.479 it was a hoax, some kids with a sound system 42 00:02:48.560 --> 00:02:51.639 back in the woods. They said, well, here's an account 43 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:54.400 from someone who lived right in that area and had 44 00:02:54.400 --> 00:02:58.479 a direct encounter with it, which proves this was no hoax. 45 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:01.960 Well it was. There's no hoax. There was something there 46 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:04.159 in the woods. For a while. They used to go 47 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:06.840 down there two or three times a week with another friend. 48 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:10.439 I would never go alone. I first heard about it 49 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:15.080 while reading the Alexandria Gazette in nineteen seventy nine, and 50 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:16.879 the first time I went out there to check it 51 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:20.199 out was in nineteen eighty three. I was nineteen years 52 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:23.439 old at that time. My buddy and I went out 53 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:26.039 in the woods to listen for something, and we stayed 54 00:03:26.039 --> 00:03:28.800 in the woods for thirty minutes, but we didn't hear anything. 55 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:31.599 And then we went back to the car and got 56 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:34.400 in and turned the engine on because it was chilly out. 57 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:37.400 The police came down to see what we were doing 58 00:03:37.479 --> 00:03:41.240 in three separate squad cars. The officer asked us what 59 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:43.759 we were doing there. My buddy told him that we 60 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:47.360 were there to listen for that monster. This officer had 61 00:03:47.400 --> 00:03:49.759 a good chuckle, and he told us that he personally 62 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:53.319 didn't believe in it, but that his partner did, and 63 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:55.879 just as that came out of his mouth, there was 64 00:03:55.919 --> 00:04:00.560 a horrific scream from one hundred feet away told us 65 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:02.560 to get out of there, and at that point he 66 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:05.240 ran to a squad car and he raced down Union 67 00:04:05.319 --> 00:04:08.080 Farm Road and through the gate of the old Union 68 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:11.719 Farm with the other squad cars following him. They had 69 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:15.840 their spotlights on in every direction. Well, we left immediately. 70 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:20.079 On another night, I was down there with four other 71 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:23.079 friends of mine. We were hanging out on a little 72 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:26.399 bridge just at the entrance to the old Union Farm property. 73 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:30.839 We were playing twenty questions just to pass the time, 74 00:04:31.279 --> 00:04:34.160 and I kept hearing these strange knocks of wood on 75 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:37.839 wood every few minutes. I don't think the other guys 76 00:04:37.839 --> 00:04:40.879 paid attention to it, but I heard it three separate times. 77 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:43.879 I told my buddies that I kept hearing the knocks, 78 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:46.480 and after saying, hey, guys, that's the third time I've 79 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:50.319 heard that sound, this thing is screaming at us. It 80 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:53.160 was the most horrific scream I've ever heard, and it 81 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:57.399 was about twenty five or thirty feet from us. The 82 00:04:57.480 --> 00:05:00.360 most harrowing part was that we had to run right 83 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:02.839 by it to get to the car, and as we 84 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:05.720 were running past it to the car, it screamed again, 85 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:09.480 and the scream was totally enveloping, and it felt as 86 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:13.000 if it would knock you over. Well, at that point 87 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:15.480 I was about ten or twelve feet away from it, 88 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:18.600 and I can tell you this was no speaker or 89 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:22.160 person that can scream like that. This was a low, 90 00:05:22.279 --> 00:05:25.439 guttural scream that came from the belly and up through 91 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:28.759 the chest, and it was nothing I have ever heard before. 92 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:31.639 I've been out in the woods my entire life. A 93 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:34.279 hunt and I camp and I fish, and there's no 94 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:37.680 animal that can make that kind of sound. And that 95 00:05:37.720 --> 00:05:41.519 particular evening, only two of us were believers up until 96 00:05:41.519 --> 00:05:44.680 that point, and after that night, all five of us 97 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:48.720 were believers in this creature. Well, that was the scariest 98 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:51.720 night of my life, and I'll never forget it. There 99 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:54.600 were other occasions that we would go out there and listen, 100 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:58.199 and we actually heard it yelling several times, but never 101 00:05:58.399 --> 00:06:02.279 at a close range. Again. It tossed rocks at me 102 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:05.000 and my buddy once, and we even saw its breath 103 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:07.480 on a really cold evening right at the tree line 104 00:06:07.480 --> 00:06:11.240 on a golf course. Now, people can be skeptics all 105 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:15.199 they want. That's their choice. But when you experience something 106 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:18.279 like my friends and I did, well, you never forget it. 107 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:22.319 You question a lot of your former beliefs. That's the 108 00:06:22.439 --> 00:06:26.199 end of the quote. Here are a pattern of things 109 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:29.199 that happened in this wilderness area, some of which I 110 00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:33.959 saw and heard, says the writer, including a deer impaled 111 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:37.680 on a metal fence post. And there are other incidents 112 00:06:37.680 --> 00:06:40.920 from friends that I knew, and another incident in a 113 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:46.600 densely wooded area of Fort belfour belf b E l 114 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:48.759 v O R. I don't know how to say that 115 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:52.399 from that time period, and it was recently posted on 116 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:57.279 the BFRO website. All of this evidence proves that this 117 00:06:57.480 --> 00:06:59.639 was not a hoax, that there was some kind of 118 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:03.160 cryptic in this area. And I lived on the treeline 119 00:07:03.199 --> 00:07:05.920 of a dense wilderness area two or three miles as 120 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:09.800 the crow flies, northwest of where Union Farm Road is, 121 00:07:09.959 --> 00:07:14.720 which is where all of these screams and both sidings happened. Now, 122 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:18.160 this is a wilderness area about seven miles long and 123 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:21.480 three miles wide in places, and was very close to 124 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:26.480 Mount Vernon on the eastern side. The northeastern section is 125 00:07:26.600 --> 00:07:30.360 Hunty Meadows Park, which is a two square mile swamp, 126 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:33.759 and the southwestern side is part of the US Army 127 00:07:33.800 --> 00:07:37.360 base at Fort Bell whatever that word Bell b E 128 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:42.680 l V or Belvaux Bell bellv A, I don't know. 129 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:47.120 And it's more hilly in terrain, and it's four or 130 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:50.800 five miles long. So this area was flanked on the 131 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:55.519 eastern side by Route one. As you drove south on 132 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:58.639 Route one, there were even more square miles of dense 133 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:01.560 woods broken up here in there by two lane roads 134 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:03.959 and a couple of neighborhoods going all the way down 135 00:08:04.199 --> 00:08:08.680 to Mason Neck Wildlife Refuge on the Potomac River. At 136 00:08:08.720 --> 00:08:11.959 the time, me and my friends were completely unaware of 137 00:08:12.079 --> 00:08:16.040 any sightings or activity outside of what we saw and experienced, 138 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:19.279 And as I pointed out earlier, I didn't even find 139 00:08:19.279 --> 00:08:24.079 out about the Mount Vernon Monster until recently. While we 140 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:27.639 were a bit mystified at the things we experienced. For 141 00:08:27.720 --> 00:08:30.720 the most part, we dismissed the idea of Bigfoot or 142 00:08:31.079 --> 00:08:34.879 dog Man because it was less than twenty miles from Washington, 143 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:38.039 d C. And when I heard of the Mount Vernon 144 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:41.879 Monster accounts in a BFR report from that time period, 145 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:46.519 it was an AHA moment for me. And from here 146 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:49.639 he lists out several experiences and I'm just going to 147 00:08:49.720 --> 00:08:52.399 read them word for word, because these are real. These 148 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:56.519 are really cool. Number one nineteen seventy five seventy six. 149 00:08:57.080 --> 00:08:59.559 We had just moved into a neighborhood which bordered the 150 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:03.320 west side out of where Hunting Meadows Park and Fort 151 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:08.000 Belvoir meet. That year, I found what looked like a 152 00:09:08.080 --> 00:09:11.639 lean to shelter in a densely wooded area near the Fort, 153 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:15.639 over towards the backside of Woodlong Plantation near Mount Vernon. 154 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:19.399 It was a tree that had been snapped over about 155 00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:22.960 eight feet up, with rather large logs piled up against it. 156 00:09:23.639 --> 00:09:28.000 I didn't see any marks, no axe marks. Also found 157 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:30.639 a pile of deer bones in a different area near 158 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:33.399 the fort that was within one mile of my house. 159 00:09:34.519 --> 00:09:39.000 Number two nineteen seventy five seventy six. A friend of 160 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:41.720 mine who lived one block over from where I lived, 161 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:44.559 but right on the tree line, had his rabbit hutches 162 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:47.799 ripped apart one night and the rabbits were gone and 163 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:51.919 left a blood trail going into the woods. There are 164 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:54.679 no bears in the area, and this was thirty five 165 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:59.440 years before coy wolves showed up. His family was from Oregon. 166 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:02.519 He thought it was a bigfoot, but I just laughed 167 00:10:02.559 --> 00:10:07.600 at him. I absolutely believe bigfoot existed, but that was 168 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:12.159 only in remote areas, or so I thought. Number three 169 00:10:12.440 --> 00:10:17.559 nineteen seventy six. I had a terrifying experience way back 170 00:10:17.559 --> 00:10:19.600 in the woods one night when I was cutting through 171 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:23.639 a densely wooded area in the forts. I'm going to 172 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:25.559 stop this video and I'm going to look up how 173 00:10:25.559 --> 00:10:31.759 to pronounce this fort Just you guys, hang on just second, Okay. 174 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:36.559 I just ran about three Google pronouncement videos, and it's 175 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:43.559 pronounced in several different ways bevoir in Europe and beilva 176 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:46.519 in the United States. From now on, I'm just going 177 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:49.360 to call it fort B. So let's go back to 178 00:10:49.440 --> 00:10:52.200 number three and start over. Nineteen seventy six. I had 179 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:55.399 a terrifying experience way back in the woods one night 180 00:10:55.639 --> 00:10:58.039 when I was cutting through a densely wooded area and 181 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:01.039 fort B on an old dirt road to get home. 182 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:04.879 And while I didn't see anything, it was a typical encounter. 183 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:07.759 The feeling of dread cam over me, like I was 184 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:10.480 being watched from the tree line. And then I heard 185 00:11:10.519 --> 00:11:13.399 a loud crack, and when I walked, I could hear 186 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:16.440 movement behind the tree line when I stopped, and then 187 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:20.480 it would stop, But whatever it was did not follow me. 188 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:26.679 Number four nineteen seventy six through nineteen seventy seven. Some 189 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:29.320 friends were back in the woods one night, fifty yards 190 00:11:29.320 --> 00:11:32.440 from where the rabbit hutches were raided, when something very 191 00:11:32.519 --> 00:11:35.840 large came crashing through the woods like a bulldozer. It 192 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:39.120 was grunting and growling, and it knocked over a rotten tree. 193 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:42.639 They didn't see it because there was no moon that night, 194 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:45.639 and they nearly wet their pants as they fled out 195 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:50.399 of the woods in terror. Number five nineteen seventy seven. 196 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:54.480 The BFRO website had a report filed a couple of 197 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:58.080 years ago from an MP who was stationed at Davidson 198 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:02.080 Army Airfield in nineteen seventy seven. He heard this thing 199 00:12:02.159 --> 00:12:05.080 crashing through the woods like a bulldozer and actually saw 200 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:07.600 its red eyes. Back in the woods one night after 201 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:11.799 a herd of deer stampeded past his guard shack. A 202 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:14.759 terrified motorist pulled up to his guard shack that night 203 00:12:14.799 --> 00:12:17.440 and said he almost hit a rather large, hairy creature 204 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:20.159 with red eyes, and there were other sightings in the 205 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:25.000 area at that time. Here is that report. He gives 206 00:12:25.000 --> 00:12:28.159 the length. The link is in the description. This was 207 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:31.399 the southern end of the wilderness section of Fort b 208 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:34.960 where these other things happened, and about two miles from 209 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:40.039 the habitat I found. This is number six. In nineteen 210 00:12:40.200 --> 00:12:43.799 seventy seven, one night I heard the most bizarre vocalization 211 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:46.679 I've ever heard in the woods, and it was coming 212 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:49.879 from just behind the tree line near my house. I 213 00:12:49.960 --> 00:12:53.480 knew it wasn't an owl, a fox, et cetera. It 214 00:12:53.559 --> 00:12:56.159 did sound a little like some of the more uncommon 215 00:12:56.279 --> 00:12:59.679 loon vocalizations, but this was way too big to be 216 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:03.519 a and the sound started off way lower than a loon. 217 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:08.720 Number seven. It was a morning in nineteen seventy nine 218 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:11.600 or nineteen eighty, and we noticed a deer that had 219 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:15.159 been impaled on a four foot tall, flat topped metal 220 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:19.159 fence post. We were mystified at how this deer managed 221 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:22.840 to impale itself on a flat top metal fence post, 222 00:13:23.399 --> 00:13:25.320 but it never occurred to us that it was a 223 00:13:25.399 --> 00:13:29.240 cryptid warning for us to stay out of its territory. 224 00:13:29.399 --> 00:13:31.679 None of us had ever heard anything about the Mount 225 00:13:31.759 --> 00:13:34.919 Vernon Monster because we lived way over on the northwest 226 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:40.000 side of the swamp. Number eight, in my opinion, whatever, 227 00:13:40.039 --> 00:13:43.159 this was moved out by the mid nineteen eighties for 228 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:48.080 two main reasons, the combination of Fort B construction on 229 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:52.600 satellite monitoring sites and managed deer hunts to thin the 230 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:56.840 deer population. My guess is that it followed the Potomac 231 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:01.759 River south in nineteen eighty five nineteen eighty six, I 232 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:05.440 did find what looked like another lean to shelter, except 233 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:08.200 this time it was within three hundred yards of where 234 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:10.879 the deer had been impaled, and it looked like it 235 00:14:10.919 --> 00:14:15.159 hadn't been used in years. And he says, if you 236 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:18.279 want to call me to discuss, here's my number. I 237 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:21.559 got this email back in I think it was April 238 00:14:21.639 --> 00:14:24.120 of twenty twenty, and I'm just now getting to it, 239 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:26.559 so I don't know if the man would even want 240 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:29.720 to talk to me. Now I don't really do interviews anymore, 241 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:35.039 namely because everybody, every single person I tried to interview, 242 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:38.080 does not have Internet or they don't have any way 243 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:40.960 to communicate with me other than with a cell phone. 244 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:44.559 The audio was so bad on those I just gave up. 245 00:14:44.639 --> 00:14:50.480 I couldn't find anybody to do an interview with through Skype, Facebook, whatever, 246 00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:54.000 so that doesn't really have anything to do with the story. 247 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:57.080 But I'm just telling you to call him and interview him. 248 00:14:57.480 --> 00:15:00.480 I guarantee you he does not have I'm kind of 249 00:15:00.519 --> 00:15:05.360 internet communication thing or whatever, so I'm not gonna call him. 250 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:08.519 But I thought this was fascinating right up near Washington, 251 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:12.240 d C. Just three or four miles from Mount Vernon, 252 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:17.279 and this is a documented series of encounters that people 253 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:20.799 have in the Northeast, which is not very common. You 254 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:24.879 don't hear about these monster encounters in that area. But 255 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:27.440 I thought it was worthy sharing with you guys because 256 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:30.080 I found it very interesting, and I hope you guys 257 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:30.639 liked it.