1 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: A little bumper music from my friends who listened in Mexico. 2 00:00:11,679 --> 00:00:14,919 Speaker 1: Can I see us put uscachas to podcast? No, I 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: don't speak Spanish. I looked it up on Google, but 4 00:00:17,839 --> 00:00:21,039 Speaker 1: I do hope you enjoyed this podcast. All right, here 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: we go. This email is titled the Mount Vernon Monster 6 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: and then there's a hyphen and it says deer impaled 7 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: on a metal fence post. Here is a story about 8 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: a cryptid that terrorized an area right near George Washington's 9 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: historic farm, Mount Vernon way back in the late nineteen seventies. 10 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,159 Speaker 1: I lived about two to three miles, as the crow flies, 11 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: from where these events happened at that time. While I 12 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: never saw it, I did see and hear evidence of it, 13 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: including a deer impaled on a metal fence post less 14 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,719 Speaker 1: than one hundred yards from my house. Now, I've done 15 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,879 Speaker 1: a lot of research into this, and I've been able 16 00:01:09,879 --> 00:01:13,239 Speaker 1: to piece together some very interesting evidence, both from what 17 00:01:13,359 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: I saw and experienced as well as from others. From 18 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:23,239 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight until nineteen seventy nine, nocturnal screams were 19 00:01:23,359 --> 00:01:26,079 Speaker 1: heard from a patch of woods one mile from the 20 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: historic home of George Washington, and there was at least 21 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: one sighting in that area of a creature six feet 22 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: tall and covered with hair. Thelma Crisp saw it. See 23 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: the link to the Washington Post article. Children were scared 24 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,079 Speaker 1: to death, and dogs went nuts barking, and people were 25 00:01:46,079 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: freaked out. By May of nineteen seventy nine, Fairfax County 26 00:01:50,719 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: Police had had enough, so they brought out a park 27 00:01:53,719 --> 00:01:57,239 Speaker 1: police chopper with search lights and they searched one hundred 28 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,879 Speaker 1: acres of woods bordering Union Farm with six policemen with 29 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,159 Speaker 1: radios in the woods ready to signal the chopper, but 30 00:02:05,239 --> 00:02:09,759 Speaker 1: they never found anything. This created such a stir that 31 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,479 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine, The Washington Post wrote an article 32 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,599 Speaker 1: on it. I'm going to mention a few links through 33 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,039 Speaker 1: this man's research in his email to me. They're all 34 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,439 Speaker 1: going to be linked in the description below. You guys 35 00:02:22,479 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: can go read them. In addition, here is audio of 36 00:02:26,479 --> 00:02:31,159 Speaker 1: the actual screams recorded in nineteen eighty. Go to the 37 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: end of the interview and there are multiple recordings of it. 38 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: Go to the one hour, twenty minute and fifty two 39 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: second mark. There'll be a YouTube link in the description. 40 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,319 Speaker 1: Police didn't want to talk about it. Many people claimed 41 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,479 Speaker 1: it was a hoax, some kids with a sound system 42 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: back in the woods. They said, well, here's an account 43 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: from someone who lived right in that area and had 44 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,479 Speaker 1: a direct encounter with it, which proves this was no hoax. 45 00:02:59,439 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: Well it was. There's no hoax. There was something there 46 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,159 Speaker 1: in the woods. For a while. They used to go 47 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: down there two or three times a week with another friend. 48 00:03:07,159 --> 00:03:10,439 Speaker 1: I would never go alone. I first heard about it 49 00:03:10,479 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: while reading the Alexandria Gazette in nineteen seventy nine, and 50 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:16,879 Speaker 1: the first time I went out there to check it 51 00:03:16,879 --> 00:03:20,199 Speaker 1: out was in nineteen eighty three. I was nineteen years 52 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,439 Speaker 1: old at that time. My buddy and I went out 53 00:03:23,479 --> 00:03:26,039 Speaker 1: in the woods to listen for something, and we stayed 54 00:03:26,039 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: in the woods for thirty minutes, but we didn't hear anything. 55 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,599 Speaker 1: And then we went back to the car and got 56 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: in and turned the engine on because it was chilly out. 57 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: The police came down to see what we were doing 58 00:03:37,479 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: in three separate squad cars. The officer asked us what 59 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,759 Speaker 1: we were doing there. My buddy told him that we 60 00:03:43,759 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: were there to listen for that monster. This officer had 61 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,759 Speaker 1: a good chuckle, and he told us that he personally 62 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,319 Speaker 1: didn't believe in it, but that his partner did, and 63 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,879 Speaker 1: just as that came out of his mouth, there was 64 00:03:55,919 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: a horrific scream from one hundred feet away told us 65 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: to get out of there, and at that point he 66 00:04:02,639 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: ran to a squad car and he raced down Union 67 00:04:05,319 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: Farm Road and through the gate of the old Union 68 00:04:08,159 --> 00:04:11,719 Speaker 1: Farm with the other squad cars following him. They had 69 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: their spotlights on in every direction. Well, we left immediately. 70 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,079 Speaker 1: On another night, I was down there with four other 71 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,079 Speaker 1: friends of mine. We were hanging out on a little 72 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,399 Speaker 1: bridge just at the entrance to the old Union Farm property. 73 00:04:27,399 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: We were playing twenty questions just to pass the time, 74 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: and I kept hearing these strange knocks of wood on 75 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: wood every few minutes. I don't think the other guys 76 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,879 Speaker 1: paid attention to it, but I heard it three separate times. 77 00:04:41,639 --> 00:04:43,879 Speaker 1: I told my buddies that I kept hearing the knocks, 78 00:04:43,879 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: and after saying, hey, guys, that's the third time I've 79 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,319 Speaker 1: heard that sound, this thing is screaming at us. It 80 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: was the most horrific scream I've ever heard, and it 81 00:04:53,199 --> 00:04:57,399 Speaker 1: was about twenty five or thirty feet from us. The 82 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: most harrowing part was that we had to run right 83 00:05:00,399 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: by it to get to the car, and as we 84 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: were running past it to the car, it screamed again, 85 00:05:06,439 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: and the scream was totally enveloping, and it felt as 86 00:05:09,519 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: if it would knock you over. Well, at that point 87 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: I was about ten or twelve feet away from it, 88 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: and I can tell you this was no speaker or 89 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: person that can scream like that. This was a low, 90 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,439 Speaker 1: guttural scream that came from the belly and up through 91 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,759 Speaker 1: the chest, and it was nothing I have ever heard before. 92 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,639 Speaker 1: I've been out in the woods my entire life. A 93 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: hunt and I camp and I fish, and there's no 94 00:05:34,439 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: animal that can make that kind of sound. And that 95 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,519 Speaker 1: particular evening, only two of us were believers up until 96 00:05:41,519 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: that point, and after that night, all five of us 97 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: were believers in this creature. Well, that was the scariest 98 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: night of my life, and I'll never forget it. There 99 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: were other occasions that we would go out there and listen, 100 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,199 Speaker 1: and we actually heard it yelling several times, but never 101 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: at a close range. Again. It tossed rocks at me 102 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: and my buddy once, and we even saw its breath 103 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: on a really cold evening right at the tree line 104 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: on a golf course. Now, people can be skeptics all 105 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,199 Speaker 1: they want. That's their choice. But when you experience something 106 00:06:15,319 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: like my friends and I did, well, you never forget it. 107 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,319 Speaker 1: You question a lot of your former beliefs. That's the 108 00:06:22,439 --> 00:06:26,199 Speaker 1: end of the quote. Here are a pattern of things 109 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,199 Speaker 1: that happened in this wilderness area, some of which I 110 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,959 Speaker 1: saw and heard, says the writer, including a deer impaled 111 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: on a metal fence post. And there are other incidents 112 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: from friends that I knew, and another incident in a 113 00:06:40,959 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: densely wooded area of Fort belfour belf b E l 114 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,759 Speaker 1: v O R. I don't know how to say that 115 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,399 Speaker 1: from that time period, and it was recently posted on 116 00:06:52,439 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: the BFRO website. All of this evidence proves that this 117 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,639 Speaker 1: was not a hoax, that there was some kind of 118 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: cryptic in this area. And I lived on the treeline 119 00:07:03,199 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: of a dense wilderness area two or three miles as 120 00:07:05,959 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: the crow flies, northwest of where Union Farm Road is, 121 00:07:09,959 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: which is where all of these screams and both sidings happened. Now, 122 00:07:14,759 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: this is a wilderness area about seven miles long and 123 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: three miles wide in places, and was very close to 124 00:07:21,519 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: Mount Vernon on the eastern side. The northeastern section is 125 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: Hunty Meadows Park, which is a two square mile swamp, 126 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,759 Speaker 1: and the southwestern side is part of the US Army 127 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: base at Fort Bell whatever that word Bell b E 128 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: l V or Belvaux Bell bellv A, I don't know. 129 00:07:44,079 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: And it's more hilly in terrain, and it's four or 130 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: five miles long. So this area was flanked on the 131 00:07:50,839 --> 00:07:55,519 Speaker 1: eastern side by Route one. As you drove south on 132 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,639 Speaker 1: Route one, there were even more square miles of dense 133 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: woods broken up here in there by two lane roads 134 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,959 Speaker 1: and a couple of neighborhoods going all the way down 135 00:08:04,199 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: to Mason Neck Wildlife Refuge on the Potomac River. At 136 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,959 Speaker 1: the time, me and my friends were completely unaware of 137 00:08:12,079 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: any sightings or activity outside of what we saw and experienced, 138 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:19,279 Speaker 1: And as I pointed out earlier, I didn't even find 139 00:08:19,279 --> 00:08:24,079 Speaker 1: out about the Mount Vernon Monster until recently. While we 140 00:08:24,079 --> 00:08:27,639 Speaker 1: were a bit mystified at the things we experienced. For 141 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: the most part, we dismissed the idea of Bigfoot or 142 00:08:31,079 --> 00:08:34,879 Speaker 1: dog Man because it was less than twenty miles from Washington, 143 00:08:35,039 --> 00:08:38,039 Speaker 1: d C. And when I heard of the Mount Vernon 144 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,879 Speaker 1: Monster accounts in a BFR report from that time period, 145 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,519 Speaker 1: it was an AHA moment for me. And from here 146 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,639 Speaker 1: he lists out several experiences and I'm just going to 147 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,399 Speaker 1: read them word for word, because these are real. These 148 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:56,519 Speaker 1: are really cool. Number one nineteen seventy five seventy six. 149 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: We had just moved into a neighborhood which bordered the 150 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: west side out of where Hunting Meadows Park and Fort 151 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: Belvoir meet. That year, I found what looked like a 152 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,639 Speaker 1: lean to shelter in a densely wooded area near the Fort, 153 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,639 Speaker 1: over towards the backside of Woodlong Plantation near Mount Vernon. 154 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,399 Speaker 1: It was a tree that had been snapped over about 155 00:09:19,399 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: eight feet up, with rather large logs piled up against it. 156 00:09:23,639 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: I didn't see any marks, no axe marks. Also found 157 00:09:28,039 --> 00:09:30,639 Speaker 1: a pile of deer bones in a different area near 158 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,399 Speaker 1: the fort that was within one mile of my house. 159 00:09:34,519 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: Number two nineteen seventy five seventy six. A friend of 160 00:09:39,039 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: mine who lived one block over from where I lived, 161 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: but right on the tree line, had his rabbit hutches 162 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,799 Speaker 1: ripped apart one night and the rabbits were gone and 163 00:09:47,919 --> 00:09:51,919 Speaker 1: left a blood trail going into the woods. There are 164 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: no bears in the area, and this was thirty five 165 00:09:54,759 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: years before coy wolves showed up. His family was from Oregon. 166 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,519 Speaker 1: He thought it was a bigfoot, but I just laughed 167 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: at him. I absolutely believe bigfoot existed, but that was 168 00:10:07,639 --> 00:10:12,159 Speaker 1: only in remote areas, or so I thought. Number three 169 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six. I had a terrifying experience way back 170 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: in the woods one night when I was cutting through 171 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,639 Speaker 1: a densely wooded area in the forts. I'm going to 172 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: stop this video and I'm going to look up how 173 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:31,759 Speaker 1: to pronounce this fort Just you guys, hang on just second, Okay. 174 00:10:31,799 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: I just ran about three Google pronouncement videos, and it's 175 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 1: pronounced in several different ways bevoir in Europe and beilva 176 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,519 Speaker 1: in the United States. From now on, I'm just going 177 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: to call it fort B. So let's go back to 178 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: number three and start over. Nineteen seventy six. I had 179 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,399 Speaker 1: a terrifying experience way back in the woods one night 180 00:10:55,639 --> 00:10:58,039 Speaker 1: when I was cutting through a densely wooded area and 181 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,039 Speaker 1: fort B on an old dirt road to get home. 182 00:11:01,639 --> 00:11:04,879 Speaker 1: And while I didn't see anything, it was a typical encounter. 183 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,759 Speaker 1: The feeling of dread cam over me, like I was 184 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: being watched from the tree line. And then I heard 185 00:11:10,519 --> 00:11:13,399 Speaker 1: a loud crack, and when I walked, I could hear 186 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: movement behind the tree line when I stopped, and then 187 00:11:16,519 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: it would stop, But whatever it was did not follow me. 188 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: Number four nineteen seventy six through nineteen seventy seven. Some 189 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: friends were back in the woods one night, fifty yards 190 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: from where the rabbit hutches were raided, when something very 191 00:11:32,519 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: large came crashing through the woods like a bulldozer. It 192 00:11:35,919 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: was grunting and growling, and it knocked over a rotten tree. 193 00:11:40,159 --> 00:11:42,639 Speaker 1: They didn't see it because there was no moon that night, 194 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,639 Speaker 1: and they nearly wet their pants as they fled out 195 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:50,399 Speaker 1: of the woods in terror. Number five nineteen seventy seven. 196 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: The BFRO website had a report filed a couple of 197 00:11:54,639 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: years ago from an MP who was stationed at Davidson 198 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: Army Airfield in nineteen seventy seven. He heard this thing 199 00:12:02,159 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: crashing through the woods like a bulldozer and actually saw 200 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: its red eyes. Back in the woods one night after 201 00:12:07,639 --> 00:12:11,799 Speaker 1: a herd of deer stampeded past his guard shack. A 202 00:12:11,879 --> 00:12:14,759 Speaker 1: terrified motorist pulled up to his guard shack that night 203 00:12:14,799 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: and said he almost hit a rather large, hairy creature 204 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,159 Speaker 1: with red eyes, and there were other sightings in the 205 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: area at that time. Here is that report. He gives 206 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,159 Speaker 1: the length. The link is in the description. This was 207 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,399 Speaker 1: the southern end of the wilderness section of Fort b 208 00:12:31,799 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: where these other things happened, and about two miles from 209 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:40,039 Speaker 1: the habitat I found. This is number six. In nineteen 210 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,799 Speaker 1: seventy seven, one night I heard the most bizarre vocalization 211 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: I've ever heard in the woods, and it was coming 212 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,879 Speaker 1: from just behind the tree line near my house. I 213 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: knew it wasn't an owl, a fox, et cetera. It 214 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,159 Speaker 1: did sound a little like some of the more uncommon 215 00:12:56,279 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: loon vocalizations, but this was way too big to be 216 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,519 Speaker 1: a and the sound started off way lower than a loon. 217 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: Number seven. It was a morning in nineteen seventy nine 218 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: or nineteen eighty, and we noticed a deer that had 219 00:13:11,639 --> 00:13:15,159 Speaker 1: been impaled on a four foot tall, flat topped metal 220 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,159 Speaker 1: fence post. We were mystified at how this deer managed 221 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: to impale itself on a flat top metal fence post, 222 00:13:23,399 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: but it never occurred to us that it was a 223 00:13:25,399 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: cryptid warning for us to stay out of its territory. 224 00:13:29,399 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: None of us had ever heard anything about the Mount 225 00:13:31,759 --> 00:13:34,919 Speaker 1: Vernon Monster because we lived way over on the northwest 226 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: side of the swamp. Number eight, in my opinion, whatever, 227 00:13:40,039 --> 00:13:43,159 Speaker 1: this was moved out by the mid nineteen eighties for 228 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: two main reasons, the combination of Fort B construction on 229 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: satellite monitoring sites and managed deer hunts to thin the 230 00:13:52,639 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: deer population. My guess is that it followed the Potomac 231 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,759 Speaker 1: River south in nineteen eighty five nineteen eighty six, I 232 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: did find what looked like another lean to shelter, except 233 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: this time it was within three hundred yards of where 234 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,879 Speaker 1: the deer had been impaled, and it looked like it 235 00:14:10,919 --> 00:14:15,159 Speaker 1: hadn't been used in years. And he says, if you 236 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,279 Speaker 1: want to call me to discuss, here's my number. I 237 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,559 Speaker 1: got this email back in I think it was April 238 00:14:21,639 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty, and I'm just now getting to it, 239 00:14:24,639 --> 00:14:26,559 Speaker 1: so I don't know if the man would even want 240 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: to talk to me. Now I don't really do interviews anymore, 241 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:35,039 Speaker 1: namely because everybody, every single person I tried to interview, 242 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: does not have Internet or they don't have any way 243 00:14:38,159 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: to communicate with me other than with a cell phone. 244 00:14:41,759 --> 00:14:44,559 Speaker 1: The audio was so bad on those I just gave up. 245 00:14:44,639 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: I couldn't find anybody to do an interview with through Skype, Facebook, whatever, 246 00:14:51,159 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: so that doesn't really have anything to do with the story. 247 00:14:54,039 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: But I'm just telling you to call him and interview him. 248 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: I guarantee you he does not have I'm kind of 249 00:15:00,519 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: internet communication thing or whatever, so I'm not gonna call him. 250 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,519 Speaker 1: But I thought this was fascinating right up near Washington, 251 00:15:08,639 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: d C. Just three or four miles from Mount Vernon, 252 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:17,279 Speaker 1: and this is a documented series of encounters that people 253 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,799 Speaker 1: have in the Northeast, which is not very common. You 254 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,879 Speaker 1: don't hear about these monster encounters in that area. But 255 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: I thought it was worthy sharing with you guys because 256 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: I found it very interesting, and I hope you guys 257 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:30,639 Speaker 1: liked it.