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<v Speaker 1>All right, Ryan macbeth, thank you for being back on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. I feel this is a do over with

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<v Speaker 1>you because the first time I try to do a

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<v Speaker 1>video episode and I had technical difficulties, so I felt

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<v Speaker 1>bad about that, although the audio episode did do pretty

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<v Speaker 1>well by the way, But this time I'm glad to

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<v Speaker 1>have you on video since I mean, your your audience

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<v Speaker 1>based is YouTube and that's what you do. You specialize

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<v Speaker 1>and you're making like very informative, awesome videos, and you

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<v Speaker 1>do deep dives, and you have a way of explaining

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<v Speaker 1>it in a way that people can just understand it

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<v Speaker 1>without feeling like they have to go to school. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>He basically removed that difficulty out and say, look, let

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<v Speaker 1>me break it down easy for you to digest, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is what's really going on. So I'm glad to

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<v Speaker 1>have this again with you in video format. I just

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<v Speaker 1>they need to see you, they really do to get

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing. So since we last talked, the first

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<v Speaker 1>time we talked, were talking about was going on in Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to get to that because there's new

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<v Speaker 1>developments and I know you made a video recently about that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you also made another video about what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on with Israel, what's going on in Gaza, and

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<v Speaker 1>that whole issue as well. So let's start there, if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't mind, Because you know, after the bombing, the

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<v Speaker 1>US sent their B two bombers and whatnot, and we

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<v Speaker 1>basically bomb nuclear facilities in Iran. I ran, surprisingly to me,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, to me, backed off and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>expect that they would, but they did. They did settle

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<v Speaker 1>down a bit. A lot of people were really well

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I know you were, because I know you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned it. But people are concerned that there might be

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<v Speaker 1>sleeper cells here in the US that might be activated

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<v Speaker 1>and retaliation to that. I want to start with that,

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<v Speaker 1>with that first, and see what you think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>coming from your perspective, because I don't. I don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>it's over. I really don't. I think that that is

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<v Speaker 1>a reality that's extremely plausible. I believe that that is

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<v Speaker 1>a thing that we will have to face. And I

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<v Speaker 1>have done the data. I've done the dive Inpu off

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<v Speaker 1>the border, and I know that this year alone, at

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<v Speaker 1>least until May, there was about seven hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>two or somewhere around there. I don't have the exact

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<v Speaker 1>but it was like seven fifty two in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>terrorists that they knew about that they detained when I

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<v Speaker 1>broke it down, was enough to put fifteen terrorists in

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<v Speaker 1>every state of the United States of America. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>not counting the ones they don't know about. So what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think about that situation? So it would be concerned?

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<v Speaker 1>Should the average American citizen be vigilant, be watching out

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<v Speaker 1>for that or at least have an idea that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it could go bad.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, that's a tough one because it feels like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in two thousand and two. Right, are we are

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<v Speaker 2>we red? Are we yellow? Or we blue? Or we green?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it a high alert day? Is it a low

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<v Speaker 2>alert day? Right? That's a really good question. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think the average American should be concerned in

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<v Speaker 2>the sense that there's really not a lot you can

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<v Speaker 2>do to prevent it. But in general, the security services

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<v Speaker 2>of the US need to be concerned about it, mainly because,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to get into politics, but for

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<v Speaker 2>about four years our borders were essentially wide open. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't necessarily know who's here, and instead of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>arresting people at home depot, maybe we should be kind

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<v Speaker 2>of looking for bad guys. I think kind of the

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<v Speaker 2>problem here is that arresting people at home depot is

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<v Speaker 2>good for the president's base, and arresting bad guys is

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<v Speaker 2>hard and takes time. Right, you don't have that immediate payoff,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of easy to see what someone might

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<v Speaker 2>might choose to do, even though finding the bad guys

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<v Speaker 2>could eventually stops for a teris incident. When it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to Iran, I think I don't want to say they've

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<v Speaker 2>learned their lesson, because they haven't learned their lesson. They're

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<v Speaker 2>in a weird place right now. We can get into

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<v Speaker 2>that when it comes to funding and how they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to rebuild their military. But essentially, I would if I

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<v Speaker 2>were part of the security services, I would be concerned

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<v Speaker 2>about a terist start within the United States that might

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<v Speaker 2>not activate now but could activate in the future. So

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<v Speaker 2>the average person knows security services, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I feel the same way. I just well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>agreeing with you, But there's also that side of me

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<v Speaker 1>that is like, well, I'm a civilian, like, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>possibility what might I have to go through if that

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<v Speaker 1>did come to it? And interestingly enough, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>had the instant Colorado where you know, we had the

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<v Speaker 1>extremists that burned a few Cherish people, right, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they recently all so arrested a few Iranians that they

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the exact details, but they're said to

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<v Speaker 1>be terrorists or non terroists that they deported. That was

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<v Speaker 1>also just just happened recently. So yeah, it is a

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<v Speaker 1>real thing. But I understand what you're saying. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's for security forces to deal with, and they

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<v Speaker 1>should be dealing with that. So in your opinion, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we should just you know, hey, be aware, but move on,

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<v Speaker 1>live on, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, God, again, it sounds like it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and two. If we don't just continue to

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<v Speaker 2>live our lives, terrorists win, right, right. And I even

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<v Speaker 2>remember when I want to say it was in god,

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<v Speaker 2>November October of two thousand and one, President Bush said

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<v Speaker 2>go buy something. Stop watching television and go to the

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<v Speaker 2>store and buy something. And I remember only I was

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<v Speaker 2>dating this for all the time, and I went and

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<v Speaker 2>I bought her like a six hundred dollars eleven jacket.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I did my part for the economy, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because like our economy was actually suffering because people were

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<v Speaker 2>hiding inside their homes watching the news.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, they were, they were they they weren't outdoors.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a great South Park episode about that where

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<v Speaker 2>the I think Randy is sitting on the couch and

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<v Speaker 2>his eyes are just wide and how like, and uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's we have to live our lite. Ye,

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<v Speaker 2>fair enough. If we live in fear, then the terrorists

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<v Speaker 2>really do win.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hence terrorism, right yeah, okay, fair enough on that.

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<v Speaker 1>What about what about your thoughts on what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in Gaza? I mean, it's we're getting really into what

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<v Speaker 1>are getting close to two years or so or about

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<v Speaker 1>two years correct, so we're run there? What what is

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<v Speaker 1>what is your thoughts on on how that is being

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<v Speaker 1>handled by Israel at the moment. And the reason I

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<v Speaker 1>asked as we because the sentiment is a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people will agree that they had a right to do

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<v Speaker 1>what they had to do. I mean, I saw your

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<v Speaker 1>video where you said you didn't forget October seventh. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't either. Most people shouldn't have forgot about that, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think in your in your opinion and this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>this is just an opinion opinion spot, but do you

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<v Speaker 1>think Israel is going a little too far or are

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<v Speaker 1>they trying to deal with the situation where it's a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of geography because it's not a very big place,

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<v Speaker 1>not a very big place for you know, Hamas, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>to spread out and hide. And I've seen that they're

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much just using the people as shields and they're

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<v Speaker 1>basically their captain. They can't necessarily leave either. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, do you believe Israel should probably try

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<v Speaker 1>a different tactic. Are they going a bit too far

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<v Speaker 1>at this point or are they just doing what they

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<v Speaker 1>have to do.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the things that Israel has done is

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<v Speaker 2>they've started to create a militious and these militias are

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<v Speaker 2>made up of Palestinians who no longer want Hamas in charge,

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<v Speaker 2>and they give them guns and they say, okay, get

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<v Speaker 2>at it, because you know, these guys, they know where

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<v Speaker 2>the hostages are. They no, they know where Hamas is located.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's one of those things where it's like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this is kind of how we have to

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<v Speaker 2>do this. And some of these these guys, they're honestly

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<v Speaker 2>got criminal gangs, right, they're criminal gangs. But again, to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of go back to the era of Donald Rumsfeld.

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<v Speaker 2>You go to war if the army have not the

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<v Speaker 2>army you want or you wish you had at a

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<v Speaker 2>later date. So what choice do you have, right they

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<v Speaker 2>you know, those are the allies that are willing to fight,

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess we kind of have to stick with

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<v Speaker 2>those allies. So they're doing that. They are getting aid in,

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<v Speaker 2>which is good. I believe they control about sixty to

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five percent of Gaza and they will ideally that

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<v Speaker 2>the ceasefire is coming up. Supposedly there may be a

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<v Speaker 2>ceasefire soon where most will return. I believe, Oh my,

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<v Speaker 2>this is kind of put me on the on the spot.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe there are forty remaining hostages and twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>I think are still alive. Something like that. There's fifty

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<v Speaker 2>hostages remaining and we know that twenty two are still alive.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I believe the ceasefire gives ten hostages back.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can't even imagine what condition the hostages are, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it must be absolute hell on earth, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because God knows where they're getting fed, right, Like, where

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<v Speaker 2>are these people getting food to feed these hosages? So

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<v Speaker 2>they must be at the point of starvation. Right, No,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not in good shape whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they can't be, but they can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You dressed this a little bit. But what about what

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<v Speaker 1>about what's going around mostly on social media or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we are the media now, right, social media? But what

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<v Speaker 1>about what was being said of Israel willingly holding back supplies,

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<v Speaker 1>right and aid and killing people who are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get aid? Because from the reports I've seen, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know way more than I do. You have more access,

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<v Speaker 1>but from the reports that I've seen, it's it's really

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily the case. It's Hamas intercepting a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these you know, a lot of this aid and then

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<v Speaker 1>trying to redistribute or sell it back to their own people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so how much of it is true that Israel is

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<v Speaker 1>actually doing this versus it's just propaganda being spread by Hamas?

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<v Speaker 2>That's uh, that's an excellent question. And uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I got to tell you that in some cases, if

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<v Speaker 2>if Israelies are rushed by people and they feel threatened,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to open fires. Right, That's just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the way it is. If you feel threatened, then well

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta do what you gotta do to stop the threat.

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<v Speaker 2>That being said, you know, for the most part, Israel

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<v Speaker 2>is getting aid in. It seems like it is mostly successful.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say it's about one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>trucks per day roughly. But one of the issues is

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<v Speaker 2>the security situation. That's why you want to work with

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<v Speaker 2>these Palestinians. The criminal gangs who will hopefully take that

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<v Speaker 2>food and distribute it. Now they're probably distributing it in

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<v Speaker 2>a way that makes their gang more powerful. That one

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<v Speaker 2>of the big issues that a lot of people don't

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<v Speaker 2>talk about. This is actually the case in Africa as well,

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<v Speaker 2>is you know, we say Palestinians, but there are tribes

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<v Speaker 2>within Palestinians, and I'm trying to I'm actually trying to

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<v Speaker 2>google it right now. All the but like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's there's different plans and we tend to think of, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>here's Palestinians. We tend to think of Arabs in general.

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<v Speaker 2>There's Arabs, but there's different plans and factions and families

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<v Speaker 2>within those societies. And that's why, like democracy doesn't always

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<v Speaker 2>a mostly Shia police force in Iraq. Right, That's just

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of it is still tribal, right, and we

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<v Speaker 2>just don't have any concept of that inside the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we don't. I was trying to look it up

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<v Speaker 1>while you're talking. I can't. I can't find like a

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of it is made up by extended families

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<v Speaker 2>Generation Sucsans was. Yeah, there was exact sorts of plans,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, and this happened in Afghanistan. Didn't happen

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like we, you know, and yeah, these tribal politics, man,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, we just kind of ran into that

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<v Speaker 2>tribal issue. You know, for the longest time. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Ahmad Karzai was essentially mayor of Kabble, right, he was president,

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<v Speaker 2>thousand while over the year seven hundred, depending on the

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<v Speaker 2>definition you want to go through here. Yeah, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the tribal thing is it's just not something that that

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<v Speaker 2>we can ignore and uh, it's uh, it's something that

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<v Speaker 2>we have to think about whenever dealing with these societies

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<v Speaker 2>where when we look at it and go, well, we

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<v Speaker 2>so I have to fight this other tribe. God's Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Our misunderstanding of the of the region and its history,

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<v Speaker 1>as just as you said, between tribes has been an issue.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm going to I'm going to get to some

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<v Speaker 1>that that touches on because you know, you mentioned Afghanistan,

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<v Speaker 1>like when when we went in there around two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and one, right, or War on Terror but before that,

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<v Speaker 1>we helped to supply the rebels and help push back

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<v Speaker 1>against the Soviets at that time. And a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people don't even know this, but Afghanistan they went through

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<v Speaker 1>a period where they were literally a communist country. I

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<v Speaker 1>was backed by the Soviets before the Soviets invaded in

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<v Speaker 1>seventy eight or seventy nine. So and before that, they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't even in Islama State. They were a monarchy. They

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<v Speaker 1>You know, at that time, Islam wasn't even a governing body.

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<v Speaker 1>It was literally just a religion, you know, and it

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, they're absolutely right, and there are people who

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<v Speaker 1>Know, wouldn't But the reason I brought that up is

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<v Speaker 1>because you bring up a You brought up Afghanistan, and

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<v Speaker 1>the US gets the blame for creating these terrorist organizations

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. If it wasn't for US, this wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have happened. Right, if we didn't back Israel, nobody would

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<v Speaker 1>hate Israel or hate the United States, which which is false.

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<v Speaker 1>They're still going to have an issue with Israel. They

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<v Speaker 1>always have but the reality is, you know, like I

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<v Speaker 1>just did a deep dive on this the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>Islamic let me correct myself. Extreme Islamist terrorism has been

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<v Speaker 1>around in that region for thirteen hundred years literally, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a new concept. And primarily it was terrorism

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<v Speaker 1>against other Muslims. It wasn't about being against the West.

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<v Speaker 1>It was about power and control, subjecting the other people

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<v Speaker 1>that they believe didn't hold up or lived to the

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<v Speaker 1>standards of Islam, at least to their extreme view of

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<v Speaker 1>it anyway. So it's a long history of terrorism and

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<v Speaker 1>a religious war within the people that literally practiced the

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<v Speaker 1>same religion, which is crazy. And you know, we always

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<v Speaker 1>see in the media how the Western powers are to

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<v Speaker 1>blame for the situation. The United States is to blame,

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<v Speaker 1>not We're not infallible at all. We did things that

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<v Speaker 1>we probably shouldn't have. We don't have a full understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of why we should be there. We just knew that, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to spread democracy and free the people. But

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<v Speaker 1>there was way more to the story than just that.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's like, what do you say to those

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<v Speaker 1>who always always believe that we should just not ever

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<v Speaker 1>get involved, Should we not ever involved, or we are

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<v Speaker 1>we just perpetuating perpetuating the problem, or is it something

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<v Speaker 1>that we really should always have a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>hand in to make sure it doesn't get too out

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<v Speaker 1>of control as far as our interests are concerned, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe in the world's interest.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the question kind of comes up as before we

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<v Speaker 2>get involved, what is the definition of when okay? And

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<v Speaker 2>that's I did a video about that. Essentially it was

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<v Speaker 2>about how how Vietnam can kind of parallel what the

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<v Speaker 2>conflict with China might look like in the sense that

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<v Speaker 2>if we go into Taiwan without a full understanding with

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<v Speaker 2>but win actually means we're gonna have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>trouble because the Yeah, the idea behind Robert McNamara during

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<v Speaker 2>Vietnam was well, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna apply

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<v Speaker 2>graduated pressure until they realize that all right, well we

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<v Speaker 2>probably can't win against the United States, so we're just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna come to the peace table. And that didn't seem

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<v Speaker 2>to work, right, like you know Vietnam, you know, Vietnam

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<v Speaker 2>just are oh, we can wait these guys out. That's

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what they did, right, So yeah, you know it's

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<v Speaker 2>by that that's a. I think before getting involved any place,

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<v Speaker 2>we should kind of get that definition of win, Like

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<v Speaker 2>what does definitely what what does win actually look like?

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<v Speaker 2>If you if you take a look at the Huthies,

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<v Speaker 2>what does win mean? Does it mean regime change? Does

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<v Speaker 2>it mean the who aren't capable of launching attacks against

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<v Speaker 2>the against shipping in the Red Sea anymore? Does it

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<v Speaker 2>mean treading them to the point where the loyalists I

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<v Speaker 2>used to say the loyalists, but the people in the

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<v Speaker 2>western half of the Yemen would be able to actually

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<v Speaker 2>fight back against the hoo Thies because right now, Yemen's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a fractured state. The Hoopies are just one tribe, right,

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<v Speaker 2>they are a tribe that are inside of Yemen, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know they were able to take over a good

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<v Speaker 2>portion of the western half. So what does win mean? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of the direction that you should probably

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<v Speaker 2>go in. It's before you get involved in any kind

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<v Speaker 2>of conflict to figure out what win actually means.

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<v Speaker 1>So literally, a better understanding of the area in the situation,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what's the impact of our involvement?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get where you're coming from. As far as

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<v Speaker 1>what is a win? I mean, it's basically defining what

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<v Speaker 1>the mission is, right and why are we here? Really,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we ever know the whole story. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, I mean, I just I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it's really about do you do you believe that? Not

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<v Speaker 1>that I wouldn't say the world, it's it's more like media, right,

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<v Speaker 1>there's this rhetoric in this, this whole movement of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>America bad, anti America, America needs to be dismantled, America

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<v Speaker 1>needs to go away because everything we do just makes

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<v Speaker 1>the world turn to shit. And I don't believe that

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<v Speaker 1>at all. I really don't. So I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>your opinion on that, and you know where that's coming from,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, outside of obvious propaganda that's being spread to

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<v Speaker 1>divide us. What do you think about what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>right now with that, with that push for that talking

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<v Speaker 1>point about America just being the enemy of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>or rather every time we get involved, we just create

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<v Speaker 1>a worse situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, that's a very good question, you know, I think. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>back after the terrorist attacks, one of the excuses we

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<v Speaker 2>kind of had was, well, they hate our freedoms, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that some people they they look at their

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<v Speaker 2>government and they go like, man, my government is a

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<v Speaker 2>government for the people in charge. Right, They don't think

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<v Speaker 2>like you look at an Arab spring, Well, how did

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<v Speaker 2>Arab spring start? Well, it's started because there was a

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<v Speaker 2>fruit cart vendor who didn't have the money to pay

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<v Speaker 2>for a license for his fruit cart. And he also

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have the money to pay for a bribe to

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<v Speaker 2>this policewoman who kept harassing him. Right, and so what

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<v Speaker 2>does this guy do? Well, he sells fruit illegally and

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<v Speaker 2>then the police come and smashes fruit cart. Now, then

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<v Speaker 2>he goes and sets himself on fire in protest. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that you have people who they don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>why their government treats them the way they do. And

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<v Speaker 2>they look at America and it's this amazing kind of

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<v Speaker 2>why does ever want to come here? They hate us

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<v Speaker 2>so much? But I would bet you if you went

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<v Speaker 2>to an average Palestinian and said would you like to

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<v Speaker 2>come to America, They'd be on the next fricking flight

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<v Speaker 2>as long as they can bring their family with, right, Right,

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<v Speaker 2>they like we there is this magical part of America where,

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<v Speaker 2>for the most part, we really do live in a security.

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<v Speaker 2>We live in a society where we do generally follow laws.

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<v Speaker 2>Most people do pay their taxes. Most police aren't really corrupt,

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<v Speaker 2>at least not to the extent that you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>can pay a bribe to get out of the ticket

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that. Right, Like, I can't even imagine

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<v Speaker 2>what would happen to me if I tried. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if the police came and I held out one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>dollars bill, probably wouldn't go, right. They probably arrestd me

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<v Speaker 2>for for trying to bribe them. Right right now, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure there is corruption, right we saw that. He saw

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<v Speaker 2>that in New York, Yes, with Mary Eric Adams, who like,

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<v Speaker 2>let me do all these favors for Turkey, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I get to fly to Turkey for fifty dollars whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Like for Menendez, that was always a good one,

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I mean, we'll always be corrected bars and it's

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<v Speaker 1>never to the level that we see in these other

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<v Speaker 2>Now, not even close. Like if I want to start

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<v Speaker 2>have an Indian friend of mine and he was telling

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<v Speaker 2>me how great the US is, How like this guy

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<v Speaker 2>he moved from India to Texas and like now he

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<v Speaker 2>a Ford f one fifty. Like America has this way

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<v Speaker 2>of just turning evil into Americans, right, And he told me,

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<v Speaker 2>like how like in India, if you want to start

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<v Speaker 2>a busines, you got to go pay a bribe to someone,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you go to another agency and you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>pay another bribe, and everything's set up so that everyone

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<v Speaker 2>start a business, I literally go on to the State

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<v Speaker 2>of Maryland website and I pay fifty dollars and I

419
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<v Speaker 2>start an LLC.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally, just go online, you can start one.

421
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<v Speaker 2>And that I think that is for the most part,

422
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<v Speaker 2>the engine of our growth, the engine of our success.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that people can just you want to start a business,

424
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<v Speaker 2>you want to start cleaning business, You just all right,

425
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<v Speaker 2>you'll get some fabulous so get some rags, get some buckets,

426
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<v Speaker 2>form the LLC poof you just started a business. And

427
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<v Speaker 2>I think that people in some other countries they look

428
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<v Speaker 2>at America and they don't they don't get it. They

429
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<v Speaker 2>don't understand, like, how come they're successful, but we're not.

430
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<v Speaker 2>And they may realize like, oh, it's because our leaders

431
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<v Speaker 2>are corrupt, but they can't fix that. So it's just

432
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<v Speaker 2>kind of it might be easier to blame America of

433
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<v Speaker 2>your problems than it is to kind of look internally right,

434
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<v Speaker 2>because you can't fix that. The only way you fix

435
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<v Speaker 2>that is the way the Syrians did. Now, a lot

436
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<v Speaker 2>of Assyrians died to make that happen.

437
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<v Speaker 1>The thing with the well, so I see where you

438
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<v Speaker 1>come from. I agree with that. But the reality is

439
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<v Speaker 1>the Middle East is always, always had had some kind

440
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<v Speaker 1>of conflict, and I know, as you stated before, a

441
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<v Speaker 1>lot of it is tribal. It's like that area has

442
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<v Speaker 1>never well, we consider it modernization, right, because Western culture

443
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<v Speaker 1>is just completely different. We always look at them as

444
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<v Speaker 1>not progressing there. They seem to be very traditional in

445
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<v Speaker 1>their ways after all these years, and and what happens

446
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<v Speaker 1>is from what I see, I may be wrong, and

447
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<v Speaker 1>that's why you're here, you know, correct me, But what

448
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<v Speaker 1>I see is as soon as as soon as one

449
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<v Speaker 1>faction rises right on behalf of the people, it's always

450
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<v Speaker 1>starts out as on behalf of the people by the people,

451
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<v Speaker 1>and they want to overthrow the regime that becomes authoritarian

452
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<v Speaker 1>or dictator like, and then they themselves become the same

453
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<v Speaker 1>thing they overthrew. It's almost like once they have power,

454
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<v Speaker 1>it becomes so infectious that they just keep repeating the cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your opinion on why that happens. Is it

456
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<v Speaker 1>literally just always because it's a tribal thing, or is

457
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<v Speaker 1>it because they're they're just they're just so used to

458
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<v Speaker 1>not being able to have any kind of power or

459
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<v Speaker 1>control whatsoever, that once they have it, it's like it

460
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<v Speaker 1>just gets to their head. They just can't they can't stop.

461
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<v Speaker 1>They must take it all out at that point. Well,

462
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<v Speaker 1>that that's a fantastic question. You know, maybe I look

463
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<v Speaker 1>at you, like at George Washington. Probably out of the

464
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<v Speaker 1>smartest thing George Washington ever did was quit after two terms, right, right,

465
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<v Speaker 1>that just kind of set the precedent. And we we've

466
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<v Speaker 1>had this precedent for two hundred and fifty years. While

467
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<v Speaker 1>a little bit less years, we've had this precedent.

468
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<v Speaker 2>Where for the most part we have this peaceful transition

469
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<v Speaker 2>of power, right and for the most part elected officials

470
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<v Speaker 2>at least they try their best to do the right thing,

471
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<v Speaker 2>you know, at least that they're answerable to their constituents

472
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<v Speaker 2>because if they don't answer to their constituents, they get unelected.

473
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<v Speaker 2>And uh, you know the in in some societies, you

474
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<v Speaker 2>don't necessarily see that they're they're when if you take

475
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<v Speaker 2>a look at sad on the Saints, Iraq, there's only

476
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<v Speaker 2>one party that was the Bath Party, right, and I

477
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<v Speaker 2>guess it was nominally a democracy. I mean I could

478
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<v Speaker 2>say you, I mean you could you could technically iron

479
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<v Speaker 2>as a democracy if you want to get technical. They

480
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<v Speaker 2>do elect their leaders, right, they do that. I think

481
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<v Speaker 2>it's required in their constitution that one Jew and one

482
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<v Speaker 2>Christian be in parliament for representations. They're not. It's not

483
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<v Speaker 2>called the parliament. I can't remember the dar name of

484
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<v Speaker 2>their governance, their governor structure right now. But yeah, so

485
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:26.799
<v Speaker 2>there's there's that, right, like there are nominally democracies. But

486
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<v Speaker 2>when you get to the point where you can't actually

487
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<v Speaker 2>affect change, I think that that just drives some people

488
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<v Speaker 2>absolutely nuts.

489
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<v Speaker 1>So it's to me almost like a really it's a

490
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<v Speaker 1>false sense of democracy. I mean, when you have the

491
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<v Speaker 1>same leader year after year after year, I mean some

492
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<v Speaker 1>of these people going twelve years, twenty years, I mean, hell,

493
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<v Speaker 1>Russia's allegedly, you know, they're elected democratically. Putin's been there

494
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<v Speaker 1>for I couldn't even I just been there for so long.

495
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<v Speaker 2>I I want to say since two thousands now, but

496
00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:59.680
<v Speaker 2>weren't two thousand because he was he was president I

497
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<v Speaker 2>think twice, and then Medev Medievev took over and then

498
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<v Speaker 2>Putin took over again.

499
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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, but he's been there at least twenty at

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<v Speaker 1>least twenty two to twenty somewhere between twenty two twenty

501
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<v Speaker 1>five years that I don't remember the exact date he

502
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.359
<v Speaker 1>became into power, but it's around that. You know, it's

503
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<v Speaker 1>been two decade. Over two decades, right, But we we

504
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:24.799
<v Speaker 1>see the situation where, you know, these leaders that come

505
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<v Speaker 1>into power, don't they just don't want to relinquish it.

506
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<v Speaker 1>And when the when the when they feel that there's

507
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<v Speaker 1>change in the air, it seems like that's when they

508
00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>start turning the screw to their own people and then applying,

509
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<v Speaker 1>applying the fear right to keep them in line. And

510
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<v Speaker 1>since you did bring up Iran, so the thing is

511
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<v Speaker 1>the thing we I need to understand about Iran is

512
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<v Speaker 1>they're they're they're their own nation. They do command respect

513
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<v Speaker 1>for who they are there right now, they've been the

514
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<v Speaker 1>leading supporter of terrorism since nineteen eighty four, at least

515
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<v Speaker 1>officially that's how they were labeled, right.

516
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<v Speaker 2>Since Prizes nineteen seventy nine, well.

517
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Before, but officially nineteen eighty four. Is when they're like, hey,

518
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<v Speaker 1>you know, these guys are arg just state as supporter

519
00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:11.200
<v Speaker 1>of terrorism?

520
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Now?

521
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<v Speaker 1>Is is theirs necessarily? Do you think a religious war?

522
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<v Speaker 1>Or is it just is that just nothing but a

523
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<v Speaker 1>cover for their ultimate goal of being the power in

524
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<v Speaker 1>the region because they used proxies to do their own bidding,

525
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<v Speaker 1>Like they're not directly going out and attacking people and

526
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<v Speaker 1>causing all of this, all of this harm and and

527
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<v Speaker 1>all this chaos. You know, they get they get to

528
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<v Speaker 1>have like the Mafia's that right, the boss would always

529
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<v Speaker 1>have a buffer, so that their buffer has always been,

530
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<v Speaker 1>you know, like these proxies. So how do we how

531
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<v Speaker 1>do we hold a country like that accountable for doing

532
00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:50.359
<v Speaker 1>those things? You can easily deny they never had direct

533
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:53.519
<v Speaker 1>involvement because they never really did anything except for recently

534
00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:56.559
<v Speaker 1>between what happened with Israel and Iran, you know, with

535
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<v Speaker 1>the bombings and but not the missiles. But before they

536
00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:03.160
<v Speaker 1>weren't always recon fault. So so how should that be approach? Like,

537
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:05.599
<v Speaker 1>how how were they to be held accountable for their actions?

538
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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time we allow them to thrive

539
00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>and develop and continue to grow as a society.

540
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<v Speaker 2>Well, you bomb them. You did exactly what I look.

541
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<v Speaker 2>I've often said, like you got, we got as a nation.

542
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:24.839
<v Speaker 2>We have to get back to our core competencies. And

543
00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:27.640
<v Speaker 2>we're not very good at nation building, but we are

544
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:30.119
<v Speaker 2>really good at a bombing piece like that. That's one

545
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.559
<v Speaker 2>of the things where we really excel at. It's been

546
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:38.319
<v Speaker 2>that way since scott when Reagan operational Dorado Canyon, when

547
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:42.759
<v Speaker 2>we realized Kadafi was his terrorist leader. Uh. He blew

548
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:46.599
<v Speaker 2>up uh pan Am he pan Am flight over locker

549
00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:52.599
<v Speaker 2>room in Scotland. He was helping fund the ira He

550
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:56.519
<v Speaker 2>was helping fund Uh. There was an operation uh to

551
00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:01.240
<v Speaker 2>Iranian affiliated terrorists who blew up a disco in Berlin.

552
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:03.720
<v Speaker 2>I want to say it was Berlin. They killed a

553
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:06.839
<v Speaker 2>couple of US service members. There isn't even a situation

554
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:11.519
<v Speaker 2>where Easter and East Germany they caught some I want

555
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:14.640
<v Speaker 2>to say it was Iranian terrorists trying to smuggle a

556
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:17.319
<v Speaker 2>bomb on board and the bomb wasn't for the East

557
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:19.480
<v Speaker 2>German flight, it was going someplace else, and they're going

558
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:21.000
<v Speaker 2>to put the bomb on that plane, and the East

559
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:23.359
<v Speaker 2>Germans turn them in. They don't want those idiots in

560
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:28.400
<v Speaker 2>their country either, right, you know. But once we bombed,

561
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:33.960
<v Speaker 2>once we bombed uh Libya, Kadelfi shut up for a

562
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<v Speaker 2>good let's say ten twelve years, yeah, roughly, you know.

563
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:43.240
<v Speaker 2>And look, the reason Iran uses proxies is that it's cheap,

564
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:46.359
<v Speaker 2>and that's actually probably one of the reasons why they

565
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:52.279
<v Speaker 2>lost their air battle against Israel. You know, Iran, they

566
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:58.359
<v Speaker 2>can't build an aircraft carrier, they can't build an ICBM

567
00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:03.240
<v Speaker 2>and are continental ballistic missile that can reach the United States.

568
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:08.799
<v Speaker 2>But what they can do is fun terrorist organizations around

569
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:14.000
<v Speaker 2>the globe that can perform kinetic actions that can give

570
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:16.839
<v Speaker 2>them leverage over certain areas of the world like Lebanon,

571
00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:22.039
<v Speaker 2>the Houkis, and Yemen Hasblahamas, right, so they can do that.

572
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:26.519
<v Speaker 2>And what's interesting is that I think that the reason

573
00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Iran kind of failed against these Israeli attacks isn't just

574
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<v Speaker 2>the skill of the Israeli air force, which is undeniably skillful,

575
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:41.079
<v Speaker 2>but they were kind of putting so many eggs in

576
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:46.480
<v Speaker 2>the IRGC and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard corner basket. They

577
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:51.160
<v Speaker 2>were funding terrorist organizations all over the world that they

578
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:53.759
<v Speaker 2>were kind of neglecting the RSH. They were neglecting their

579
00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:57.359
<v Speaker 2>own military, and you can see that just by looking

580
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.799
<v Speaker 2>at their jet fighters. I mean the jet fighters remains

581
00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:07.640
<v Speaker 2>are from the nineteen seventies. I'm sure there's been some upgrades.

582
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:12.760
<v Speaker 2>And supposedly Iran they want to purchase a couple of

583
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:16.559
<v Speaker 2>suit thirty four's from Russia, like a deal went through

584
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:19.000
<v Speaker 2>to purchase these to thirty fours. I think they've got

585
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:22.480
<v Speaker 2>a single suit thirty four. I think they've got a

586
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:24.400
<v Speaker 2>single one because Russia is like, yeah, we kind of

587
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:27.679
<v Speaker 2>need these right now, no surprise, right. And a couple

588
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:31.920
<v Speaker 2>of years ago, Russia helped Ron launch a satellite and

589
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:35.199
<v Speaker 2>UH I remember the spy satellite, and they said to

590
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:37.519
<v Speaker 2>Iran like, we're going to use this for a little while.

591
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Consider it a consider it a feet right, So yeah,

592
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:49.519
<v Speaker 2>the the UH I think that Iran's way to affect

593
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:53.440
<v Speaker 2>changes through the proxies, which was cheap. But for every

594
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:57.239
<v Speaker 2>proxy that you fund with a dollar, it's one less

595
00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:00.559
<v Speaker 2>dollar that you can fund your conventional mil military with

596
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:04.679
<v Speaker 2>and that's how you get into a situation where you

597
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:11.880
<v Speaker 2>have this military that is essentially very brittal. Right, they

598
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:18.239
<v Speaker 2>can't even destroy Israeli planes coming into their own country, right,

599
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:22.199
<v Speaker 2>they can't launch sorties against Israeli planes that are flying

600
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.960
<v Speaker 2>into their own country. I think Israel established air dominant

601
00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:27.920
<v Speaker 2>and then three to five days to the point where

602
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:35.199
<v Speaker 2>they're operating during the daytime, which is absolute madness. Yeah,

603
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:36.480
<v Speaker 2>it's crazy.

604
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:38.840
<v Speaker 1>They obviously didn't have any fear of what Iran could do.

605
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<v Speaker 2>No, No, they didn't have any fear. And that's kind

606
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:45.760
<v Speaker 2>of not how it's supposed to be. Like, you're supposed

607
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:47.920
<v Speaker 2>to have air sovereign to be over your own country,

608
00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:52.599
<v Speaker 2>and after three to five days, I believe Iran didn't.

609
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:56.159
<v Speaker 2>That's a pretty big issue. And that's I think it's

610
00:35:56.159 --> 00:36:01.079
<v Speaker 2>directly because they funded their proxies so much. There's essentially

611
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:04.360
<v Speaker 2>no money left over for their conventional forces, the surface,

612
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:09.320
<v Speaker 2>their missile forces, their air force. So you're you're you're

613
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:12.800
<v Speaker 2>running how to reduce capacity, and then you actually get

614
00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:17.840
<v Speaker 2>into that fight and now you get smacked around by

615
00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:20.920
<v Speaker 2>a country that's twenty times smaller than you.

616
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:25.039
<v Speaker 1>It's right, it's interesting, but you brought up Russia because

617
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<v Speaker 1>the what I've seen, what I've seen happen with Iran,

618
00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:34.119
<v Speaker 1>so out out the gate right, Pakistan is like, oh,

619
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<v Speaker 1>we support Iran and we will back them and if

620
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:38.960
<v Speaker 1>we have to, we'll launch a nuclear weapon if we

621
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<v Speaker 1>need to. So they Iran has these I don't even

622
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.320
<v Speaker 1>know if they're real allies or pseudo allies because Russia

623
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<v Speaker 1>is supposed to be an ally. But what we've seen

624
00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:51.760
<v Speaker 1>is we've never really seen Russia really come to their

625
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:55.639
<v Speaker 1>need necessarily. I know, Iran helped Russia in the in

626
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<v Speaker 1>the Ukraine War by sending them like I think it

627
00:36:57.800 --> 00:36:59.719
<v Speaker 1>was like technology like drones, different things.

628
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sad drones, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And and then same thing with China. China supposed he

630
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, says hey, they also stand by Iran, but

631
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:10.840
<v Speaker 1>China doing what China does. They haven't really done much

632
00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:15.000
<v Speaker 1>or said anything outside of just saying we support a run.

633
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:20.199
<v Speaker 1>After the bombings, everyone got quiet. So I don't know

634
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<v Speaker 1>if that's a testament to still, you know, how strong

635
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:25.519
<v Speaker 1>the US really is in the world stage that people

636
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:28.480
<v Speaker 1>actually saw that, Okay, we're not we're not sleeping anymore.

637
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:30.320
<v Speaker 1>We will take care of things if we have to,

638
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:34.519
<v Speaker 1>or if Iran their true colors just came out and

639
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.599
<v Speaker 1>this whole thing has just been you know, one giant

640
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:40.079
<v Speaker 1>charad really, you know, in terms of what Iran can

641
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:41.519
<v Speaker 1>really do and what power they really have.

642
00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, look, if you're Russia, what exactly are

643
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:51.360
<v Speaker 2>you going to do right now to support Iran? Much

644
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:55.239
<v Speaker 2>like that's that mean, like can you send aircraft? But

645
00:37:55.320 --> 00:38:00.599
<v Speaker 2>you kind of need those aircraft right, So oh what

646
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:03.599
<v Speaker 2>do you do? Because I don't really have an answer.

647
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, I get it. It's just it just seems

648
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:08.039
<v Speaker 1>it just seems like they don't really have the allies

649
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:10.840
<v Speaker 1>they think they do. You know, as soon as as

650
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:13.280
<v Speaker 1>soon as the US did step into back Israel, which

651
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:16.400
<v Speaker 1>we always do, which it's gonna be another question for you,

652
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:21.880
<v Speaker 1>but it seemed like everybody just kind of stepped back.

653
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>They just didn't want to get involved anymore. In my opinion,

654
00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I think China is just watching all these conflicts, and

655
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:31.239
<v Speaker 1>just while they're doing that, they're testing the waters over

656
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>there with Taiwan. Sorry Taiwan. I don't know why I

657
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:37.079
<v Speaker 1>said Taiwan. So Taiwan and also you know, also the

658
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Philippines and just recently, they basically laser targeted a German

659
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:46.679
<v Speaker 1>I think with a helicopter or some military craft when

660
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:50.000
<v Speaker 1>they were having an exercise out there. So to me,

661
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I think China is saying what people want to hear,

662
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:57.000
<v Speaker 1>while at the same time plotting to do what they

663
00:38:57.039 --> 00:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>want to do in the region. And I mean, I

664
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:02.320
<v Speaker 1>know they're end goal is to eventually take Taiwan. But

665
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:04.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, if Russia You're correct, obviously, it's like they

666
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:09.159
<v Speaker 1>don't have any means to really separate and and fight

667
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:11.519
<v Speaker 1>two wars. They just can't. I mean, they're barely even

668
00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:13.360
<v Speaker 1>able to handle what's going on in Ukraine right now,

669
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:18.119
<v Speaker 1>and that's a much smaller country, you know, So I

670
00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:23.320
<v Speaker 1>get you now. As far as Israel and Irando, I

671
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:26.320
<v Speaker 1>always ask I've asked a question by you know, two

672
00:39:26.360 --> 00:39:30.480
<v Speaker 1>other guests that I've had recently, and do you do

673
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:34.400
<v Speaker 1>you believe at some point that Israel needs to stand

674
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:36.880
<v Speaker 1>on their own without knowing that the USA is going

675
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:37.400
<v Speaker 1>to step in?

676
00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Hmm.

677
00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:43.559
<v Speaker 1>I know we're allies. I'm not saying we shouldn't help

678
00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:47.760
<v Speaker 1>our allies, but there have been situations where and historically

679
00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:51.239
<v Speaker 1>that they they have done They've done things that have

680
00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:54.639
<v Speaker 1>really made it hard, right, especially for US. I mean,

681
00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:57.280
<v Speaker 1>if you look at the geopolitical relationships, like what if

682
00:39:57.280 --> 00:40:00.199
<v Speaker 1>we're in negotiation with another country or we're trying to

683
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:02.760
<v Speaker 1>do something to where we can improve relations, and then all

684
00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:06.320
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, Israel's another war with somebody you know,

685
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:09.320
<v Speaker 1>or there's another conflict. How do you feel about that

686
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:11.360
<v Speaker 1>or at least your opinion on that situation.

687
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:18.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, usually Israel doesn't necessarily start, right, you could say that,

688
00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:22.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, one war that Israel I'm really trying to.

689
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:25.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, really the only war that hasn't really started

690
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:31.920
<v Speaker 2>was nineteen forty eight, right, so kind of like what

691
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<v Speaker 2>do you know, even the Siini can't say was the

692
00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Siani campaign? Was that? I think that was instigated by

693
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:44.079
<v Speaker 2>Egypt and they were like, well, let's just keep going.

694
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:47.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, let's say when the Egyptian forces are collapsing,

695
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:50.079
<v Speaker 2>let's just keep going. You know, might as well keep

696
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:57.880
<v Speaker 2>going here. So I usually it seems like other people

697
00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:03.119
<v Speaker 2>kind of roll in and and they cause trouble with Israel,

698
00:41:03.159 --> 00:41:05.119
<v Speaker 2>and Israel decides to respond, and that's when they have

699
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:08.760
<v Speaker 2>to step in. Now, for the most part, Israel does

700
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:12.760
<v Speaker 2>and on its own when they need a little extra help.

701
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:16.920
<v Speaker 2>They can call the US for the most part. Like

702
00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:19.159
<v Speaker 2>you look at Israel's air force and they were able

703
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:24.360
<v Speaker 2>to do a lot with I think it's eleven fighter

704
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:28.360
<v Speaker 2>eleven fighter squads, right, I think it's three F thirty fives,

705
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:37.880
<v Speaker 2>three F sixteen eyes well one of sixteen e welling laughs,

706
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:41.920
<v Speaker 2>F fifteen. I I think they have two F fifteen

707
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:48.760
<v Speaker 2>c's these squads A fifteen C. I'm trying to do

708
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:50.400
<v Speaker 2>this memory, but I think it's eleven squad.

709
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's not a large, not a very large.

710
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Passive, but it's it's a respectable air force for the

711
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Reeds veritably, Yeah, paratively, and you know, like they can

712
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:08.599
<v Speaker 2>usually handle themselves. It's kind of when things got out

713
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:11.840
<v Speaker 2>of control that the US gets called in and you know,

714
00:42:11.880 --> 00:42:14.960
<v Speaker 2>normally they don't start it, they shut us all, finished it.

715
00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:19.199
<v Speaker 1>Well, history is shown they yeah, technically typically do not

716
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Typically in tech you don't start it. You're correct.

717
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Sixty seven sixty seven is a real startup, but only

718
00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:29.360
<v Speaker 2>because they saw the Egyptians building up on the border. Right.

719
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:32.800
<v Speaker 2>They essentially took out the Egyptian air force in one day.

720
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, they're they're a powerful nation for their size.

721
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:40.480
<v Speaker 1>But it's still do you think we should always have

722
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:44.480
<v Speaker 1>to step in, because that's that's been that's been the

723
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:47.519
<v Speaker 1>rhetoric going around. You know, it's as if we shouldn't

724
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:51.320
<v Speaker 1>support Israel anymore. I think if we're no longer their ally,

725
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:54.239
<v Speaker 1>we lose a major position there in terms of an

726
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:57.119
<v Speaker 1>ally military position, everything.

727
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:00.320
<v Speaker 2>A major technical position. Same.

728
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Like.

729
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:05.519
<v Speaker 2>Look one of the reasons Israel and the United States

730
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:10.119
<v Speaker 2>when it came to Oman just their guitar guitar a

731
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:13.800
<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks ago, when around launched all dismissiles, We've

732
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:18.480
<v Speaker 2>gotten all that data from Ukrainian intercepts, Like whenever Ukraine

733
00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:25.760
<v Speaker 2>intercepts a Russian missile with a Patriot, we get that data, right,

734
00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:30.039
<v Speaker 2>So we got a heck of a lot of data

735
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:34.000
<v Speaker 2>on the performance of the Patriot and the performance of

736
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:36.119
<v Speaker 2>the Patriot in Israel. We got a heck of a

737
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:39.840
<v Speaker 2>lot of data on that, right. One of the things

738
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:44.880
<v Speaker 2>that Israel helped create with US money was the iron

739
00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:47.679
<v Speaker 2>Dome syst Well, now we have access to that tech.

740
00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:51.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, iron Dome really isn't that useful for us,

741
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.360
<v Speaker 2>but we can use some of that tech to develop

742
00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:59.280
<v Speaker 2>other systems that might be useful in the future. Another

743
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:03.159
<v Speaker 2>good example is the Trophy system. Trophy system is on

744
00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:06.239
<v Speaker 2>I want to say, one hundred and fifty US tanks

745
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:08.960
<v Speaker 2>that are in Germany. Trophy system is kind of like

746
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:13.320
<v Speaker 2>an iron dome for tanks intercepts incoming rockets. Right, So

747
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:17.840
<v Speaker 2>we have this this tech transfer with with Israel that

748
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:20.360
<v Speaker 2>would be lost if they were no longer allies. So

749
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:24.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, when you essentially have a country that's in

750
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:26.920
<v Speaker 2>a very bad part of the world's kind of willing

751
00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:28.880
<v Speaker 2>to test out some of your weapons for you and

752
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:32.400
<v Speaker 2>bring back the data, wellck, why not do that, right?

753
00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:35.239
<v Speaker 1>And then we would also lose some of that intelligence

754
00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:35.559
<v Speaker 1>as well.

755
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:41.079
<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, absolutely so. And plus Israel is a democracy.

756
00:44:41.480 --> 00:44:44.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, we need to be able, we need to

757
00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:46.519
<v Speaker 2>support democracies around the globe.

758
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:50.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I just want to clarify that I

759
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:52.519
<v Speaker 1>that question wasn't to put you on the spot and

760
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:53.880
<v Speaker 1>have you say Israel bad.

761
00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:54.840
<v Speaker 2>I was just want a.

762
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Dropeena because you know, there is as I stated earlier,

763
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:02.159
<v Speaker 1>as a sentiment that akabad right where the for the

764
00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:05.079
<v Speaker 1>cause of all iron the world? And then now it's like, well,

765
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:08.079
<v Speaker 1>let's not support Israel anymore. Let's just let them do

766
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:09.840
<v Speaker 1>whatever they got to do and stand on their own

767
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:14.239
<v Speaker 1>and then you know, well, at the same time support Ukraine,

768
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:16.519
<v Speaker 1>which was never really an ally. But you know, with

769
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:18.880
<v Speaker 1>that situation, you know, we don't want to see the

770
00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:21.440
<v Speaker 1>little guy get taken over by the larger aggressor right

771
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:25.559
<v Speaker 1>for no reason. So it's just like this whole, this

772
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:28.480
<v Speaker 1>whole thing right now, with the way the media is

773
00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:31.599
<v Speaker 1>pushing their talking points in their narrative, it's like we're

774
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:34.559
<v Speaker 1>living in an upside down world. And I don't I

775
00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:35.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know where it's coming from.

776
00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:36.119
<v Speaker 2>It.

777
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:39.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who's who is behind this propaganda. But

778
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:42.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, even on us soil, we have you know,

779
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:46.440
<v Speaker 1>people that are marching for Hamas. I mean, I get

780
00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:49.159
<v Speaker 1>supporting the people of Palestine are stuck in the middle

781
00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:51.559
<v Speaker 1>of the actual you know, people civilians that are that

782
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:55.119
<v Speaker 1>are being killed because of the decisions made by Hamas.

783
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I understand that, but I don't understand how we can

784
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:01.800
<v Speaker 1>get behind to rist organizations to say no, they're actually

785
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:04.920
<v Speaker 1>the good guy. You know, it's America that's bad. We're

786
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:06.400
<v Speaker 1>the reason that all this is happening.

787
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I had a whole theory about that.

788
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, I just won Daro's coming from it is.

789
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:16.559
<v Speaker 2>I think I honestly, I think one of the reasons

790
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:22.719
<v Speaker 2>that the US are college students in the United States

791
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:29.400
<v Speaker 2>got so involved with the whole conflicting gaza was that,

792
00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:34.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, these are students who for four years three

793
00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:38.159
<v Speaker 2>four years, three years at least, they couldn't go to class,

794
00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:40.400
<v Speaker 2>they couldn't wear masks, they couldn't go out on the

795
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:43.119
<v Speaker 2>date with a girl. Then all of a sudden, like

796
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:46.599
<v Speaker 2>here's this opportunity to meet other people in real life

797
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:50.519
<v Speaker 2>on a subject that they're passionate about. I'm kind of

798
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:56.360
<v Speaker 2>reminded of reminded of my old first sergeant when I

799
00:46:56.400 --> 00:47:01.920
<v Speaker 2>first joined in nineteen ninety four. My first sergeant was

800
00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:05.800
<v Speaker 2>like he told me he was a Vietnam vet. And

801
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:08.960
<v Speaker 2>this guy said, you know, uh what he used to do.

802
00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:11.639
<v Speaker 2>He used to work at the Pentagon. After work, he

803
00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:13.719
<v Speaker 2>would change into civilian clothes and he would go to

804
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:17.599
<v Speaker 2>the protests and in civilian clothes and like tell the

805
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:20.239
<v Speaker 2>girls that he was a soldier. And you know, he

806
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:23.000
<v Speaker 2>got he got to sleep with all sorts of girls

807
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:25.039
<v Speaker 2>that way because they thought, like, we're bringing them into

808
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:28.840
<v Speaker 2>our side. So if you're if you're a kid, if

809
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:33.360
<v Speaker 2>you're a boy, right, and you know you, uh, you've

810
00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:35.599
<v Speaker 2>never kissed a girl before, and I've been out on

811
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:38.480
<v Speaker 2>a date with a girl before, and here's an opportunity

812
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:41.039
<v Speaker 2>to meet girls in real life. You don't have to

813
00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:43.239
<v Speaker 2>worry about a mask, you don't worry about tender and

814
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:45.920
<v Speaker 2>they're passionate about this thing. Yes, I'll be passionate about

815
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:48.679
<v Speaker 2>this too. Can we go back to your dorm afterwards? Right?

816
00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:54.039
<v Speaker 2>So I think I and I I I had, though

817
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:59.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I am. I really know, because it's

818
00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:03.000
<v Speaker 2>it's it sounds like a very open and shut thing, right.

819
00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:05.079
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like one of those things where you can

820
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:10.559
<v Speaker 2>go like, oh, you know, I'll do this thing and

821
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:15.199
<v Speaker 2>I'll get this girl, and you know, I'll be able

822
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:17.840
<v Speaker 2>to socialize with people. I'll be able to feel a

823
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:20.280
<v Speaker 2>part of something. I think a lot of these kids,

824
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:23.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, if you're if you're wearing a mask in

825
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:27.199
<v Speaker 2>high school for three years and you can't do organized sports,

826
00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:30.199
<v Speaker 2>so you can't go to homecoming dance because of COVID,

827
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:33.800
<v Speaker 2>and then you go to college and now you have

828
00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:36.639
<v Speaker 2>all this freedom and look at all the cool kids

829
00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:41.079
<v Speaker 2>are out here protesting. I'm going to go protest as well. Right, Yeah,

830
00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:46.079
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of it was was just I

831
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:47.880
<v Speaker 2>don't want to say, and there are some people who

832
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:50.679
<v Speaker 2>might feel genuinely bad, but I would not be surprised

833
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:52.880
<v Speaker 2>if there were a lot of kids I did a

834
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:56.480
<v Speaker 2>whole video about this who just wanted to make friends

835
00:48:56.559 --> 00:49:00.639
<v Speaker 2>and this was just an easy way to do that.

836
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:05.440
<v Speaker 1>That's that's yeah, I mean, I'm that can it seems

837
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:09.000
<v Speaker 1>to track. I have another I have another person that

838
00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:13.679
<v Speaker 1>mentioned that some of this support also is we have,

839
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:19.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, generations removed from at least the atrocities that

840
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:23.360
<v Speaker 1>we saw right with September eleventh, that don't understand what

841
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:25.719
<v Speaker 1>the US went through. And then you know, this new

842
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:31.039
<v Speaker 1>generation of people, these younger people in their lifetime hasn't

843
00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:34.159
<v Speaker 1>haven't really seen the effects of true terrorism or or

844
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:35.960
<v Speaker 1>not even not on a broad scale like it used

845
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:38.800
<v Speaker 1>to be. It never really went away, but it wasn't

846
00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:41.679
<v Speaker 1>as bad now as it used to be until recently.

847
00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Now we're looking at this war between you know, Hamas

848
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:47.679
<v Speaker 1>and Israel, and this is the first time they've been

849
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:50.679
<v Speaker 1>able to see a conflict like this of this scale,

850
00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:53.039
<v Speaker 1>and they don't know what to make of it. They

851
00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:55.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know how to make the connection as to why

852
00:49:55.800 --> 00:49:59.639
<v Speaker 1>amass is considered bad. You know, who really is Palestine?

853
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Elin's not a nation, you know, they were region. They

854
00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:04.639
<v Speaker 1>were always referred to as a region, a region that

855
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:08.159
<v Speaker 1>encompassed a lot of other tribes and nations, not nations,

856
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:12.679
<v Speaker 1>but you know, tribes and other cultures together. It was

857
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:16.960
<v Speaker 1>always considered region, not a nation. So they don't get that,

858
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:19.000
<v Speaker 1>they don't understand that, they can't make the connection, so

859
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:21.679
<v Speaker 1>they just see, oh, this is bad, there's no reason

860
00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:24.360
<v Speaker 1>this war should be happening. And then you also have

861
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Ukraine going on. But it seems like everybody, really the

862
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:32.960
<v Speaker 1>younger people, really attach themselves to this Palestinian or Palestine

863
00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:36.119
<v Speaker 1>versus Israel hoss Israel war. And I think it's because

864
00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:41.599
<v Speaker 1>they just don't understand or see what is behind it all,

865
00:50:41.639 --> 00:50:44.159
<v Speaker 1>Like what is the true history, not just what they hear,

866
00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Because it seems like this is really what pisses me

867
00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:49.960
<v Speaker 1>off lately. Ryan. I don't know if you agree, but

868
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:52.599
<v Speaker 1>it seems like we're living through a period of revisionist history.

869
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:55.039
<v Speaker 1>You know, we got like you don't have to say

870
00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:57.119
<v Speaker 1>anything because I know you can't, but I'll just say,

871
00:50:57.199 --> 00:51:00.360
<v Speaker 1>you have guys like this martyr made guy who believe

872
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:02.519
<v Speaker 1>suddenly that Hitler's a good guy. You know, he wasn't

873
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:04.159
<v Speaker 1>all that bad and he said a few things, but

874
00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:06.960
<v Speaker 1>all in all, his intent was good. And you know,

875
00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:08.639
<v Speaker 1>Winston Churchill was the bad guy, and if it wasn't

876
00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:11.079
<v Speaker 1>Winston Churchill, we wouldn't have had to go to war

877
00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:14.000
<v Speaker 1>with Germany, et cetera. And it just makes you scratch

878
00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:16.559
<v Speaker 1>your heads, like where is all this revisionist history stuff

879
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:18.960
<v Speaker 1>coming from? You know, it's really easy to be, you know,

880
00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:21.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty thirty forty years removed from something and then go

881
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:23.960
<v Speaker 1>back and say, well, it should have been done this way.

882
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:27.000
<v Speaker 1>You didn't live through it, You didn't understand what was

883
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:30.639
<v Speaker 1>really happening. So I believe that could also be what's

884
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:32.519
<v Speaker 1>going on right now. You know, we have a generation

885
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:36.000
<v Speaker 1>of people that have never really had to deal with

886
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:39.159
<v Speaker 1>this situation, and right now, with the way social media is,

887
00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:43.480
<v Speaker 1>it's so prevalent you cannot turn it off. You know,

888
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:45.599
<v Speaker 1>every time you turn your phone on, it's another headline,

889
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:49.440
<v Speaker 1>it's another picture, it's another video, So that's fake. But still.

890
00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:55.199
<v Speaker 2>I recall how there is this one college professor of

891
00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:58.119
<v Speaker 2>an interview with him, and he's starting to realize that

892
00:51:58.440 --> 00:52:01.880
<v Speaker 2>a lot of his students have no real concept of

893
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:07.079
<v Speaker 2>September eleventh, no, no actual concept of what happened that day,

894
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:13.000
<v Speaker 2>and so he'll actually play the phone calls from the tower,

895
00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:16.000
<v Speaker 2>he play the video footage. He'll show like the horror

896
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:21.119
<v Speaker 2>of that day, and that kind of brings it home

897
00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:24.559
<v Speaker 2>for a lot of these people who who were hearing

898
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:26.800
<v Speaker 2>their you know love you know, people call their loved

899
00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:29.599
<v Speaker 2>ones and say goodbye, right leaving a message on an

900
00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:34.880
<v Speaker 2>answering machine, having to say goodbye, which is like, God,

901
00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:40.559
<v Speaker 2>I remember that day. That was a horrible, horrible day. Yeah. Yeah,

902
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:43.400
<v Speaker 2>that's one of those everybody remembers where they were kind

903
00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:48.840
<v Speaker 2>of day. Everybody, everybody remembers where they were. Yeah, I

904
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:53.400
<v Speaker 2>got I remember just uh, you know, we were all

905
00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:57.039
<v Speaker 2>like ready to go. Let's go. Let's go kill who

906
00:52:57.039 --> 00:52:58.800
<v Speaker 2>were supposed to kill. I don't know, let's just go.

907
00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:01.880
<v Speaker 1>It was one of those it didn't matter if you

908
00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:04.519
<v Speaker 1>were in the military or civilian. Everybody was ready to go,

909
00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:06.599
<v Speaker 1>pick up a pitchfork whatever. It was like, Hey, we're

910
00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:10.079
<v Speaker 1>going to defend our soil. Yeah, and I don't know

911
00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:12.519
<v Speaker 1>if we It's just it's just funny how throughout the years,

912
00:53:12.519 --> 00:53:15.400
<v Speaker 1>we just lose that connection, you know, as as being

913
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Americans and being proud of who we are as a people.

914
00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:20.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's sad to see where we're at right now.

915
00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:21.920
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know.

916
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I hope, I hope we could turn that around and

917
00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:27.800
<v Speaker 1>bring back the pro American sentiment, not not isolationism by

918
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:30.119
<v Speaker 1>the way, just being more proud of who we are.

919
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:33.000
<v Speaker 1>And and I hope that we can understand why things

920
00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:36.239
<v Speaker 1>were done the way they were done. It wasn't all

921
00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:41.239
<v Speaker 1>bad intentions, you know. Oh, and it's a sad thing. Uh.

922
00:53:41.639 --> 00:53:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this question. What's next?

923
00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:44.639
<v Speaker 2>Man?

924
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:47.679
<v Speaker 1>What do you think's next with with Iran and Israel

925
00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:48.599
<v Speaker 1>and where this is going to go?

926
00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Ah, I don't think it's gonna go anywhere. No, No,

927
00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:59.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, both sides are pretty much spent, you know.

928
00:53:59.840 --> 00:54:04.000
<v Speaker 2>They they just don't have the internal resources. That's why

929
00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:06.440
<v Speaker 2>when people said, oh my god, this is gonna be

930
00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:11.039
<v Speaker 2>World War three, it's not. We don't. There's just no

931
00:54:12.519 --> 00:54:18.199
<v Speaker 2>there's no capacity for waging a long war. Now. Granted,

932
00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:23.159
<v Speaker 2>Israel is waging along war inside Gaza, but that's not

933
00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:27.320
<v Speaker 2>as expensive as keeping aircraft running twenty four to seven, right, right,

934
00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:31.039
<v Speaker 2>and you know, Iran doesn't have It's not like they

935
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:35.440
<v Speaker 2>can sail to Israel and drop the landing ships and invade,

936
00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:40.440
<v Speaker 2>right true, there's no World War three, right, So I

937
00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:45.440
<v Speaker 2>think what happens is both sides kind of take a breather,

938
00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:49.480
<v Speaker 2>they take lessons from that. Iran is probably gonna they

939
00:54:49.519 --> 00:54:52.800
<v Speaker 2>probably have a shopping list, but there's not a lot

940
00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:58.199
<v Speaker 2>of people that can actually fulfill that shopping list. They're

941
00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:00.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna need new surf scare systems, They're going to need

942
00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:04.800
<v Speaker 2>new radar systems, and kind of one of the issues

943
00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:10.400
<v Speaker 2>is that there's just no capacity around the world for

944
00:55:10.559 --> 00:55:13.840
<v Speaker 2>them to gain the systems that they need to defend

945
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:18.400
<v Speaker 2>their airspace. You look at you look at Russia. You know,

946
00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:21.400
<v Speaker 2>try placing an order for a missile system in Russia

947
00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:24.480
<v Speaker 2>right now, right they're going to fill their orders first. Absolutely,

948
00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:27.639
<v Speaker 2>Try placing a system for a missile system order from

949
00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:30.920
<v Speaker 2>China right now. Well, they're going to fill their orders first.

950
00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:31.760
<v Speaker 2>So who's left.

951
00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:35.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, China is not concerned with anyone else having more

952
00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:36.039
<v Speaker 1>power than that China.

953
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:40.239
<v Speaker 2>China is. China's always going to do it's best for China,

954
00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:43.119
<v Speaker 2>and right now it's best for China's manufacturing weapons for

955
00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:46.719
<v Speaker 2>a fight against Taiwan, right right, agree, that's what's best

956
00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:47.199
<v Speaker 2>for China.

957
00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:51.320
<v Speaker 1>I thought I thought we could have been on the

958
00:55:51.400 --> 00:55:55.840
<v Speaker 1>verge of World War three. And the reason I thought

959
00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:57.719
<v Speaker 1>that was what I kind of mentioned earlier, because you know,

960
00:55:57.719 --> 00:56:00.000
<v Speaker 1>when Pakistan stepped up and they were right away going

961
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:01.599
<v Speaker 1>and oh, we'll use neicerent weapons that we have to,

962
00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:05.119
<v Speaker 1>we'll do it. And then Russia right away stepped up

963
00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:08.400
<v Speaker 1>and he said, oh, we're behind Iran and in so

964
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:11.719
<v Speaker 1>Dia China. But you know, it does make sense what

965
00:56:11.719 --> 00:56:14.840
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, because from a financial standpoint, none of them

966
00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:18.280
<v Speaker 1>could could enter into this and have an extended war,

967
00:56:18.320 --> 00:56:21.559
<v Speaker 1>none of them, none of those nations whatsoever. I think

968
00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:24.119
<v Speaker 1>I was more I would think I took it more

969
00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:28.079
<v Speaker 1>seriously just because of what Pakistan said, you know, a

970
00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:32.360
<v Speaker 1>shooting a nuclear weapon off. But who knows. I mean, yeah,

971
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:35.119
<v Speaker 1>you're probably right. It probably did come down to literally

972
00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:37.960
<v Speaker 1>just finances, like there's just nobody could afford to do it.

973
00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:44.079
<v Speaker 2>Nobody. Yeah, And I was not actually familiar with with

974
00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Pakistan saying they're going to use the nuclear weapon, because

975
00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:50.480
<v Speaker 2>when someone says we're going to use the nuclear weapon,

976
00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:56.079
<v Speaker 2>the next question needs to be okay against whom, Like,

977
00:56:56.599 --> 00:57:01.000
<v Speaker 2>what's the what? What is the I've often said this,

978
00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:03.719
<v Speaker 2>there's really only four cases in what you'd use a

979
00:57:03.800 --> 00:57:07.400
<v Speaker 2>nuclear web, right. That is to establish a breakthrough. Let's

980
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:10.559
<v Speaker 2>talk about a taxical weapons to establish a breakthrough. That's

981
00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:13.320
<v Speaker 2>a valid use case. You blow up a nuclear weapon

982
00:57:13.800 --> 00:57:16.679
<v Speaker 2>above a troop concentration. You do it as an air bursts.

983
00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:19.400
<v Speaker 2>There's very little ground radiation or very little radio I

984
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:22.039
<v Speaker 2>could fall out, and you run your troops through that

985
00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:25.079
<v Speaker 2>hole that you made in the front lines. That would

986
00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:27.599
<v Speaker 2>be an ideal weapon for Russia to use against Ukraine

987
00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:30.119
<v Speaker 2>if they had the troops to actually exploit a breakthrough.

988
00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:33.880
<v Speaker 2>There's a second thing, which is defending a breakthrough, like

989
00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:37.280
<v Speaker 2>when Ukraine went into curse, using a nuclear weapon on

990
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:40.719
<v Speaker 2>Russian taxical nuclear weapon on Russian soil, that would have

991
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:43.800
<v Speaker 2>been a good use case for using a nuclear weapon, right.

992
00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:47.880
<v Speaker 2>It would have stopped that breakthrough like that, and it

993
00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:51.760
<v Speaker 2>would have been on Russian soil that the world probably

994
00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:54.159
<v Speaker 2>would have been mad, but hey, they blew up their

995
00:57:54.199 --> 00:58:00.400
<v Speaker 2>own country, so that's okay. Right. The third thing is

996
00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:05.000
<v Speaker 2>to use a nuclear weapon against the naval fleet American

997
00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:08.039
<v Speaker 2>carriers in the Atlantic. That is an ideal use case

998
00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:12.480
<v Speaker 2>or a nuclear weapon. The fourth thing is an amphibious landing.

999
00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:15.559
<v Speaker 2>So if Taiwan or China lands on Taiwan using a

1000
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:19.199
<v Speaker 2>nuclear weapon against the amphibious beachhead, that would be an

1001
00:58:19.199 --> 00:58:23.480
<v Speaker 2>ideal use case or a nuclear weapon. So when Pakistan

1002
00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:26.079
<v Speaker 2>says we're going to use a nuclear weapon against what,

1003
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:30.360
<v Speaker 2>are you going to have exploded over Israel? Good luck

1004
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:30.599
<v Speaker 2>with that?

1005
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:34.280
<v Speaker 1>No understood? I believe with h No, I'm with you.

1006
00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:38.039
<v Speaker 1>Where it came from, you know, it's where it came from.

1007
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:43.079
<v Speaker 1>Was was the belief that when the situation was happening, right,

1008
00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:46.880
<v Speaker 1>it was all based allegedly on the fact that Iran

1009
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:48.920
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't come to the table with their nuclear data deal.

1010
00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:50.800
<v Speaker 1>We didn't want No, the world does not want them

1011
00:58:50.800 --> 00:58:54.159
<v Speaker 1>to have a nuclear weapon or to develop one. So

1012
00:58:55.320 --> 00:58:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Pakistan at the time, and a lot of the other

1013
00:58:58.119 --> 00:59:03.159
<v Speaker 1>sympathizers of our we're always like, why does Israel he them,

1014
00:59:03.519 --> 00:59:05.239
<v Speaker 1>they're not even part of this agreement or this pack,

1015
00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:07.639
<v Speaker 1>why do they have nuclear weapons?

1016
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:09.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, that Israel has a nuclear weapon.

1017
00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Right, So that's what that's what the rhetoric was. So

1018
00:59:13.159 --> 00:59:15.800
<v Speaker 1>it was it was a response to everything going on

1019
00:59:15.880 --> 00:59:18.880
<v Speaker 1>saying if if Israel dares to launch a nucle weapon,

1020
00:59:18.920 --> 00:59:21.039
<v Speaker 1>if there's a nuclear weapon launched, we're going to launch

1021
00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:24.760
<v Speaker 1>everything we have and back Iran. And and that I

1022
00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:28.079
<v Speaker 1>believe that's where that came from. So, I mean, when

1023
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:30.440
<v Speaker 1>a country or nation says, hey, we're going to use

1024
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:34.239
<v Speaker 1>our entire nuclear arsenal if we have to, kind of

1025
00:59:34.239 --> 00:59:36.320
<v Speaker 1>makes me, you know, go, hey, well wait a minute.

1026
00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:38.039
<v Speaker 1>You know, we might be going a bit too far.

1027
00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:39.519
<v Speaker 1>But you know, to your point, you're right, it's like,

1028
00:59:41.400 --> 00:59:41.840
<v Speaker 1>who are.

1029
00:59:41.719 --> 00:59:44.559
<v Speaker 2>They gonna do? Yeah, what are they gonna do? Now?

1030
00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:47.840
<v Speaker 2>A good use case for a nuclear weapon in Israel's case,

1031
00:59:48.079 --> 00:59:52.880
<v Speaker 2>if they have them, might be all right, well, we

1032
00:59:53.320 --> 00:59:59.199
<v Speaker 2>want to reach Fourdoh, we can't reach Floridoh, so let's

1033
00:59:59.599 --> 01:00:05.119
<v Speaker 2>explod the nuclear weapon groundburst small fifteen twenty kiloton nuclear

1034
01:00:05.159 --> 01:00:10.679
<v Speaker 2>weapon against Foorid. Oh that'll take out Florida. Would the

1035
01:00:10.679 --> 01:00:18.000
<v Speaker 2>world be mad? Probably? But in some ways, like I

1036
01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:22.480
<v Speaker 2>think one of the reasons that Israel kind of kind

1037
01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:25.239
<v Speaker 2>of I don't want to say they screwed themselves, but

1038
01:00:25.920 --> 01:00:35.760
<v Speaker 2>when ten days after the ten days after the October seventh,

1039
01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:41.719
<v Speaker 2>there was an explosion at the it was the Urbia hospital,

1040
01:00:43.239 --> 01:00:48.119
<v Speaker 2>and the New York Times immediately publishes Israel dropped a

1041
01:00:48.159 --> 01:00:53.000
<v Speaker 2>bomb on this hospital, yes, and so then they and

1042
01:00:53.079 --> 01:00:55.159
<v Speaker 2>I like when I saw that, I was like, no,

1043
01:00:55.320 --> 01:00:58.119
<v Speaker 2>they did, and I kind of knew why. I watched

1044
01:00:58.159 --> 01:00:59.960
<v Speaker 2>the footage and all that and like that that was

1045
01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:04.760
<v Speaker 2>than the bomb from Israel. And it was later found

1046
01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:07.360
<v Speaker 2>out to be a missile fire by Islamic Jihad that

1047
01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:09.559
<v Speaker 2>just kind of fell short. And that that happens. I

1048
01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:14.599
<v Speaker 2>think twenty percent of all missiles launched against Israel land

1049
01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:16.079
<v Speaker 2>inside Gosy.

1050
01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Never really made it never hit Therom markin.

1051
01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:21.320
<v Speaker 2>Oops, right, you know.

1052
01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:24.800
<v Speaker 1>And that's that's an interesting thing. Abought the hospitals because

1053
01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:28.559
<v Speaker 1>it seems like there are two hundred and something hospitals

1054
01:01:29.159 --> 01:01:31.760
<v Speaker 1>in Gaza, you know, I.

1055
01:01:31.679 --> 01:01:32.599
<v Speaker 2>Think it's fewer than that.

1056
01:01:32.639 --> 01:01:35.880
<v Speaker 1>But well, the way they're reporting it, it's it's it's

1057
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:38.719
<v Speaker 1>just crazy that it seems like every other week there's

1058
01:01:38.719 --> 01:01:43.599
<v Speaker 1>a hospital being blown up. And how much of this

1059
01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:47.760
<v Speaker 1>is true versus just again propaganda, how much of that

1060
01:01:47.880 --> 01:01:50.559
<v Speaker 1>is just you know, trying to win the sympathy of

1061
01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:53.559
<v Speaker 1>the world and turn Israel into the big bad enemy.

1062
01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:57.119
<v Speaker 2>In some cases, I believe it's been true. I would

1063
01:01:57.159 --> 01:02:00.920
<v Speaker 2>have to go overreach each bombing case. But you know,

1064
01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:04.119
<v Speaker 2>if Daddy l daddy is in a hospital. Though hospitals

1065
01:02:04.119 --> 01:02:07.679
<v Speaker 2>are supposed to be exempt from attack according to the

1066
01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:11.119
<v Speaker 2>Geneva Conventions, kind of the issue that you run into

1067
01:02:11.360 --> 01:02:16.400
<v Speaker 2>is that if you are hosting troops in there, and

1068
01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:20.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't mean troops that have been wounded. And you know,

1069
01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:24.199
<v Speaker 2>there was a couple of years ago there was an

1070
01:02:24.239 --> 01:02:26.760
<v Speaker 2>attack against the hospital and I think it was Amnesty

1071
01:02:26.760 --> 01:02:31.400
<v Speaker 2>International said, oh, the Ukrainians were using the hospital as

1072
01:02:31.400 --> 01:02:36.760
<v Speaker 2>a best home, and like that's one of those well yeah,

1073
01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:40.760
<v Speaker 2>like because if you go to the hospital to visit

1074
01:02:40.800 --> 01:02:43.079
<v Speaker 2>your buddy, where are you going to eat? You're gonna

1075
01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:45.719
<v Speaker 2>eat at the hospital, right like that that's kind of

1076
01:02:46.079 --> 01:02:54.039
<v Speaker 2>stretching it as an excuse for attacking the hospital. But yeah,

1077
01:02:54.079 --> 01:02:58.199
<v Speaker 2>that just for the most part, you're not supposed to

1078
01:02:58.199 --> 01:03:00.559
<v Speaker 2>do that. And so if as it is going to

1079
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:04.119
<v Speaker 2>decide to do that, they're going to go over there,

1080
01:03:05.440 --> 01:03:09.639
<v Speaker 2>uh there, Oh my god, I can't remember the darn

1081
01:03:09.639 --> 01:03:11.000
<v Speaker 2>word for it, but they're going to go over a

1082
01:03:11.039 --> 01:03:14.920
<v Speaker 2>procedure to decide how to actually strike this. They're going

1083
01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:18.119
<v Speaker 2>to do the weaponearing and say this is affect type

1084
01:03:18.119 --> 01:03:21.239
<v Speaker 2>of bomb because Daddy Elbaddie is on the third floor

1085
01:03:21.320 --> 01:03:24.440
<v Speaker 2>in the fourth room, So we're going to use a

1086
01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:28.079
<v Speaker 2>small diameter bomb that will just take out this one room.

1087
01:03:28.400 --> 01:03:36.480
<v Speaker 2>So you have to be very aware of how Israel

1088
01:03:36.559 --> 01:03:39.679
<v Speaker 2>is actually going to undertake these actions, and so they

1089
01:03:39.760 --> 01:03:43.159
<v Speaker 2>might do this, But what was the criteria for striking

1090
01:03:43.199 --> 01:03:44.320
<v Speaker 2>this particular target.

1091
01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I understand that. I think I think the reason

1092
01:03:49.159 --> 01:03:54.199
<v Speaker 1>people are so so peeved about all of it in

1093
01:03:54.280 --> 01:03:57.800
<v Speaker 1>terms of because it seems to be indiscriminate. That's you know,

1094
01:03:58.039 --> 01:03:59.840
<v Speaker 1>let's just say that's what it is. That's what people

1095
01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:03.719
<v Speaker 1>that's what people are gathering about, you know, from what's happening.

1096
01:04:04.159 --> 01:04:07.599
<v Speaker 1>Uh and and and the reason it seems this way

1097
01:04:07.639 --> 01:04:10.960
<v Speaker 1>is because Israel has proven that they can be very

1098
01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:14.000
<v Speaker 1>strategic and surgical when they want to be. But when

1099
01:04:14.039 --> 01:04:17.840
<v Speaker 1>it comes to Gaza, it's like it's it seems like

1100
01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:19.280
<v Speaker 1>they're just leveling the place.

1101
01:04:20.119 --> 01:04:22.480
<v Speaker 2>But a lot of that, a lot of the leveling

1102
01:04:22.840 --> 01:04:26.960
<v Speaker 2>is those are bulldozers, Those are D nine bulldozers. So

1103
01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:29.440
<v Speaker 2>those aren't necessarily bob buildings. Now, it doesn't make a

1104
01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:32.400
<v Speaker 2>difference for the person who's home is destroyed, right, But

1105
01:04:32.679 --> 01:04:35.760
<v Speaker 2>if you're in a platoon and you have to clear

1106
01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:37.760
<v Speaker 2>a house and you know there's a bad guy in

1107
01:04:37.800 --> 01:04:41.400
<v Speaker 2>that house. You're like, well, is this is this bad

1108
01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:43.800
<v Speaker 2>guy really worth my platoon's life. You might call in

1109
01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:46.199
<v Speaker 2>an air strike, or you might say, just get the

1110
01:04:46.280 --> 01:04:48.480
<v Speaker 2>dn I in up here. Uh, some of the D

1111
01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:52.400
<v Speaker 2>nine bulldozers are actually armored and uh they're remote controls.

1112
01:04:52.440 --> 01:04:54.800
<v Speaker 2>So the dnine just comes in, levels the house and

1113
01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:56.079
<v Speaker 2>move on to the next house.

1114
01:04:57.000 --> 01:04:58.679
<v Speaker 1>So you think a lot of this is is just

1115
01:04:59.039 --> 01:05:01.440
<v Speaker 1>a blown out of portion. You know, it's it's all

1116
01:05:01.480 --> 01:05:05.199
<v Speaker 1>for just getting eyeballs on news feeds and on social

1117
01:05:05.239 --> 01:05:06.000
<v Speaker 1>media posts.

1118
01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Possibly it works. Yeah, hey, you talked about God. There's

1119
01:05:10.400 --> 01:05:13.199
<v Speaker 2>that one guy who's saying Hitler was the good guy. Yeah,

1120
01:05:13.239 --> 01:05:17.360
<v Speaker 2>well look, get you on, Tucker Carls. Everybody else says

1121
01:05:17.440 --> 01:05:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Hitler is the bad guy, right, So Tucker Carlson, now

1122
01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:22.639
<v Speaker 2>I was all right, Well, if I bring on this

1123
01:05:22.719 --> 01:05:24.840
<v Speaker 2>guy says Hitler was the good guy, I'm going to

1124
01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:26.800
<v Speaker 2>get lots of people watching my show. I'm going to

1125
01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:30.480
<v Speaker 2>get lots of people talking about my showfa right, And

1126
01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:34.480
<v Speaker 2>he's always been fired from every job he's ever had.

1127
01:05:34.880 --> 01:05:41.239
<v Speaker 2>He needs news, he needs news, all right, and what's

1128
01:05:41.239 --> 01:05:44.360
<v Speaker 2>going to get the views well, talking about how Hitler

1129
01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:46.480
<v Speaker 2>is a good guy. Yeah, miss understood.

1130
01:05:47.039 --> 01:05:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know there's a lot of guys that are

1131
01:05:48.519 --> 01:05:51.679
<v Speaker 1>that are that are taking that stance and again trying

1132
01:05:51.719 --> 01:05:54.400
<v Speaker 1>to reread history. But you know that, to me, that's

1133
01:05:54.400 --> 01:05:56.719
<v Speaker 1>a whole other conversation. I mean that that's another rabbit

1134
01:05:56.760 --> 01:05:59.840
<v Speaker 1>hole that we can dive down. But I just think

1135
01:05:59.880 --> 01:06:04.119
<v Speaker 1>it's so ridiculous how people don't see what's going on

1136
01:06:04.280 --> 01:06:07.079
<v Speaker 1>and they're just they're just eating it up. They're just

1137
01:06:07.119 --> 01:06:09.559
<v Speaker 1>eating it up. I mean, it's so easy to do

1138
01:06:09.639 --> 01:06:11.920
<v Speaker 1>research these days. It's not like you have to find

1139
01:06:11.920 --> 01:06:14.679
<v Speaker 1>the library that might have a specific collection of books anymore.

1140
01:06:14.679 --> 01:06:16.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the internet is vast. I mean you've got

1141
01:06:16.559 --> 01:06:18.960
<v Speaker 1>to vet your sources on the internet, but it's it's

1142
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:20.960
<v Speaker 1>not as hard as it used to be to find information,

1143
01:06:21.119 --> 01:06:24.639
<v Speaker 1>you know. So it's as if they just take these

1144
01:06:24.800 --> 01:06:27.880
<v Speaker 1>people for their word just because they have a huge

1145
01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:32.280
<v Speaker 1>following or a podcast that's popular. But you know, nobody

1146
01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:34.960
<v Speaker 1>seems to be questioning what they're saying. They're just eating

1147
01:06:34.960 --> 01:06:35.280
<v Speaker 1>it up.

1148
01:06:36.159 --> 01:06:41.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that that's some of that is some

1149
01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:44.760
<v Speaker 2>of that is the attention culture, right, Like you know

1150
01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:48.679
<v Speaker 2>when you have when you have some Instagram video, you know,

1151
01:06:48.760 --> 01:06:52.039
<v Speaker 2>you're scrolling through this thing. And that's how a lot

1152
01:06:52.079 --> 01:06:54.360
<v Speaker 2>of people get their news these days from Instagram. Like

1153
01:06:54.800 --> 01:06:57.880
<v Speaker 2>have you ever waked? Like, have you recently watched the

1154
01:06:57.920 --> 01:07:02.280
<v Speaker 2>evening news, ABS Evening News, ABC Evening News? Like once

1155
01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:05.639
<v Speaker 2>in a while, I might. I've tried the news. I

1156
01:07:05.679 --> 01:07:08.440
<v Speaker 2>watched the morning news. I do. I do watch the

1157
01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:10.480
<v Speaker 2>morning news to find out like the weather or hey,

1158
01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:12.639
<v Speaker 2>these roads are going to be closed in DC or whatever.

1159
01:07:13.119 --> 01:07:16.559
<v Speaker 2>I do watch the morning news. But for the most part,

1160
01:07:16.599 --> 01:07:19.199
<v Speaker 2>like when you watch the evening news, one of the

1161
01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:26.599
<v Speaker 2>interesting things you see is commercials for medication. It's like,

1162
01:07:26.800 --> 01:07:31.559
<v Speaker 2>literally every single commercials for medication. Why is that? It's

1163
01:07:31.599 --> 01:07:34.440
<v Speaker 2>because the only people who watch the news are old people.

1164
01:07:36.039 --> 01:07:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Enough, the only people well, you know, that's one of

1165
01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:42.320
<v Speaker 1>the reasons I don't watch mainstream news or televised news,

1166
01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:47.039
<v Speaker 1>because it's it's ninety percent commercials and advertising and maybe

1167
01:07:47.159 --> 01:07:49.599
<v Speaker 1>ten percent of actual content, you.

1168
01:07:49.559 --> 01:07:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Know, probably less than that, right, I think I'm gonna

1169
01:07:53.079 --> 01:07:55.440
<v Speaker 2>say in ten minutes of commercials, I'm gonna say it

1170
01:07:55.840 --> 01:07:56.599
<v Speaker 2>seems like every.

1171
01:07:56.400 --> 01:07:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Time I'm watching it, I run into like, you know,

1172
01:07:58.920 --> 01:08:00.400
<v Speaker 1>ten commercials in a row, and then all of a

1173
01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:02.840
<v Speaker 1>sudden they talk for thirty seconds. It's another ten commercials.

1174
01:08:03.159 --> 01:08:05.679
<v Speaker 1>It's almost as bad as watching an NFL game sometimes.

1175
01:08:05.880 --> 01:08:09.880
<v Speaker 2>So you have another issue that you kind of run into,

1176
01:08:10.920 --> 01:08:15.320
<v Speaker 2>is you have with the Internet. You have this hyper

1177
01:08:15.320 --> 01:08:21.439
<v Speaker 2>specialization when it comes to viewing content. So if you

1178
01:08:22.399 --> 01:08:26.600
<v Speaker 2>see someone's opinion and you like that opinion, well they're

1179
01:08:26.640 --> 01:08:28.600
<v Speaker 2>going to show you more things that are associated with

1180
01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:33.279
<v Speaker 2>that because they want to keep your eyeballs on you know,

1181
01:08:33.439 --> 01:08:37.880
<v Speaker 2>they want to keep your eyeballs on the on the screen. Absolutely.

1182
01:08:38.279 --> 01:08:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, since we're talking about this, it's I've seen it

1183
01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:43.640
<v Speaker 1>with and I know you've seen it because you've been

1184
01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:47.119
<v Speaker 1>doing this longer than I have. I just started getting

1185
01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:50.279
<v Speaker 1>into video right and utilizing YouTube and rumble and whatnot.

1186
01:08:50.680 --> 01:08:53.000
<v Speaker 1>And what I've noticed is the difference between my audio

1187
01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:56.319
<v Speaker 1>podcasts and what works on YouTube are two different things.

1188
01:08:56.760 --> 01:08:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I could throw a two hour interview on YouTube and

1189
01:08:59.039 --> 01:09:01.840
<v Speaker 1>get almost views, but I've turned into a bunch of

1190
01:09:01.880 --> 01:09:03.920
<v Speaker 1>shorts and all. It's like you've got thousands of Look,

1191
01:09:04.039 --> 01:09:07.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm like what because people can't get past thirty seconds,

1192
01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:09.680
<v Speaker 1>and even within those thirty seconds for like they if

1193
01:09:09.720 --> 01:09:13.479
<v Speaker 1>they stick around for fifteen of those some can't, right,

1194
01:09:13.640 --> 01:09:16.039
<v Speaker 1>But in general, you know, I know, generalizing, but it

1195
01:09:16.079 --> 01:09:19.000
<v Speaker 1>just seems like everybody has a very short attention spans

1196
01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:23.239
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to video content. I've noticed anyway. So

1197
01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:26.079
<v Speaker 1>it's like I could have a two hour episode on

1198
01:09:26.119 --> 01:09:29.039
<v Speaker 1>a conversation on a podcast audio format that does extremely well,

1199
01:09:29.079 --> 01:09:31.119
<v Speaker 1>but then in video format it seems like everybody just

1200
01:09:31.159 --> 01:09:32.960
<v Speaker 1>wants to get right to it. It's like, where's the

1201
01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:35.079
<v Speaker 1>short at I want to see these little clips. They

1202
01:09:35.119 --> 01:09:37.439
<v Speaker 1>don't want to go through the whole thing and really

1203
01:09:37.479 --> 01:09:39.359
<v Speaker 1>take it. In the majority, I'm not saying all, but

1204
01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:43.279
<v Speaker 1>the majority, So I've noticed the difference. It's it's it's

1205
01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:47.279
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy. And again, different audiences too, right, Maybe maybe

1206
01:09:47.319 --> 01:09:50.079
<v Speaker 1>people asn't audio or just an older generation of people

1207
01:09:50.119 --> 01:09:52.800
<v Speaker 1>that are used to just wanting to hear those long conversations,

1208
01:09:52.800 --> 01:09:55.159
<v Speaker 1>But it seems like the younger people or the newer

1209
01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:57.279
<v Speaker 1>generations are like, nope, I want to quick, I want

1210
01:09:57.279 --> 01:09:58.680
<v Speaker 1>to fast, I want to the point and I'm done.

1211
01:09:58.680 --> 01:10:01.199
<v Speaker 1>I want to move on now. That's what seems like

1212
01:10:01.239 --> 01:10:06.720
<v Speaker 1>that that's my opinion anyway, from my perspective. Yeah, So, uh, Ukraine,

1213
01:10:08.640 --> 01:10:09.399
<v Speaker 1>what's going on.

1214
01:10:09.319 --> 01:10:13.319
<v Speaker 2>Man, Well, we're about to us our time box, but

1215
01:10:13.439 --> 01:10:14.520
<v Speaker 2>I know, let's keep We're.

1216
01:10:14.359 --> 01:10:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Getting there, but before before we go, I wanted to

1217
01:10:18.039 --> 01:10:20.279
<v Speaker 1>get your opinion on what's going on with a sudden

1218
01:10:20.319 --> 01:10:24.239
<v Speaker 1>shift to send Ukraine weapons and support when Trump was

1219
01:10:24.279 --> 01:10:26.680
<v Speaker 1>against it or seemed to be no.

1220
01:10:27.039 --> 01:10:29.239
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I don't think that was President Trump. I think

1221
01:10:29.279 --> 01:10:33.520
<v Speaker 2>that was uh crap. I can't remember his name. I

1222
01:10:33.520 --> 01:10:36.479
<v Speaker 2>think there are some people in the d O D.

1223
01:10:36.560 --> 01:10:38.840
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember the specific guy's name, but he's a

1224
01:10:38.840 --> 01:10:42.439
<v Speaker 2>big China hawk, and I think that was him. And

1225
01:10:42.520 --> 01:10:45.760
<v Speaker 2>when Trump kind of realized what had happened, that this

1226
01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:49.880
<v Speaker 2>happened without his authority, I think he uh kind of

1227
01:10:49.880 --> 01:10:55.239
<v Speaker 2>put the kabash on that real quick. Albridge Colby, what's

1228
01:10:55.279 --> 01:10:59.000
<v Speaker 2>the guy's name, Elbridge Colby. He's a big we need

1229
01:10:59.039 --> 01:11:01.840
<v Speaker 2>to be ready to fight China guy. He's not wrong,

1230
01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:05.720
<v Speaker 2>but we can. We can do both. And kind of

1231
01:11:05.520 --> 01:11:08.319
<v Speaker 2>the scary thing here, The thing I've mentioned is that

1232
01:11:09.279 --> 01:11:13.520
<v Speaker 2>by supporting Ukraine, we are deterring China because we were

1233
01:11:13.560 --> 01:11:15.920
<v Speaker 2>saying we're gonna stand with our allies no matter what.

1234
01:11:16.399 --> 01:11:19.000
<v Speaker 2>So China, if you decide to take Taiwan, you're gonna

1235
01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:19.279
<v Speaker 2>have a.

1236
01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Bad day, right, And that was definitely in question for

1237
01:11:22.520 --> 01:11:24.439
<v Speaker 1>a while. Wouldn't we stand on the Hunter allies? It

1238
01:11:24.439 --> 01:11:27.760
<v Speaker 1>seemed like we wouldn't. But I mean we've definitely turned

1239
01:11:27.760 --> 01:11:29.279
<v Speaker 1>that corner and showed the world that we build.

1240
01:11:30.159 --> 01:11:33.079
<v Speaker 2>Well. One of the one of the huge issues is

1241
01:11:33.119 --> 01:11:36.199
<v Speaker 2>that there are a finite amount of weapons. We burned

1242
01:11:36.199 --> 01:11:39.640
<v Speaker 2>through a lot of interceptors. We burned through a lot

1243
01:11:39.680 --> 01:11:46.119
<v Speaker 2>of interceptors in Israel, and I think Lockie Raytheon has

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01:11:46.159 --> 01:11:52.000
<v Speaker 2>the capability of manufacturing five hundred and fifty factories per year.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a lot, right, No, And you know, I'd

1246
01:11:58.239 --> 01:12:01.439
<v Speaker 2>love to say, like, well, we should, we should fund

1247
01:12:01.479 --> 01:12:06.000
<v Speaker 2>that more, right, we should. We should put more money

1248
01:12:06.079 --> 01:12:10.279
<v Speaker 2>into developing missiles, should hire more people working at these factories.

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01:12:10.680 --> 01:12:13.159
<v Speaker 2>And that's great, But who's going to pay for that? Right?

1250
01:12:13.279 --> 01:12:13.680
<v Speaker 2>I agreed?

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01:12:13.720 --> 01:12:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly.

1252
01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:20.479
<v Speaker 2>So, so you know, in some ways, like maybe one

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01:12:20.520 --> 01:12:24.800
<v Speaker 2>of the solutions is maybe we need to look at

1254
01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:31.920
<v Speaker 2>a less expensive interceptor, right that has eighty percent of

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01:12:31.920 --> 01:12:36.479
<v Speaker 2>the capabilities. Right, Like I'm surprised andrel hasn't worked on

1256
01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:38.800
<v Speaker 2>something like that. Like here's this thing, here's this new

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01:12:38.840 --> 01:12:41.039
<v Speaker 2>missile we developed, It's one hundred and fifty thousand each

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01:12:41.119 --> 01:12:43.199
<v Speaker 2>week and make ten thousand of them. It'll fit on

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01:12:43.239 --> 01:12:46.720
<v Speaker 2>the pack three launcher and it has eighty percent of

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01:12:46.760 --> 01:12:48.720
<v Speaker 2>the capabilities of the Patriot.

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<v Speaker 1>Is is supporting Ukraine with munitions enough? I mean, do

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01:12:55.279 --> 01:12:57.840
<v Speaker 1>you do you think because we first talked about this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think when you and I first talked was

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01:12:59.720 --> 01:13:04.720
<v Speaker 1>like back in January or so and so, do you

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01:13:04.920 --> 01:13:08.479
<v Speaker 1>think that at this point just giving them munitions and

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01:13:08.600 --> 01:13:10.439
<v Speaker 1>money is enough? Are we ever going to get to

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01:13:10.439 --> 01:13:12.279
<v Speaker 1>the point where you think we may have to actually

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01:13:12.279 --> 01:13:16.479
<v Speaker 1>get involved with real troops to push back on Russia

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01:13:16.560 --> 01:13:18.800
<v Speaker 1>just because there's such a much I mean, there's just

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01:13:18.840 --> 01:13:22.159
<v Speaker 1>a much bigger country. You know, it's a little different

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01:13:22.159 --> 01:13:24.880
<v Speaker 1>than the Israel Iran situation we're looking at. Russia is

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01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:27.960
<v Speaker 1>just so much bigger and has so many more capabilities,

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01:13:28.079 --> 01:13:31.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, at least depth anyway, right depth. So do

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01:13:31.399 --> 01:13:33.640
<v Speaker 1>you think we'll ever come to that or we'll just

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01:13:33.720 --> 01:13:35.560
<v Speaker 1>the support of munitions be enough?

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01:13:36.640 --> 01:13:42.720
<v Speaker 2>All Ukraine has ever wanted was weapons, Like they haven't

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01:13:42.760 --> 01:13:45.079
<v Speaker 2>asked for any troops, they haven't asked for anyone to

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01:13:45.119 --> 01:13:52.039
<v Speaker 2>come to their aid. Now, could they? Could we do

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01:13:52.119 --> 01:13:56.079
<v Speaker 2>something more like established the no fly zone that I

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01:13:56.119 --> 01:13:58.680
<v Speaker 2>mean back when the war first started, I made a

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01:13:58.760 --> 01:14:01.720
<v Speaker 2>video about that where like, look, it'd be really difficult

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01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:04.039
<v Speaker 2>to establish no fly zone because we would have to

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01:14:04.079 --> 01:14:09.760
<v Speaker 2>take out Russian surface stair missiles, would have to Now

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01:14:09.800 --> 01:14:15.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of the question there becomes like, well, could the

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01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:20.239
<v Speaker 2>UK and France establish a no fly zone? And they

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01:14:20.359 --> 01:14:21.239
<v Speaker 2>might be able.

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01:14:21.079 --> 01:14:23.720
<v Speaker 1>To do that, That is the question actually, right, and.

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01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:28.960
<v Speaker 2>No fly zone would would really help Ukraine because it

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01:14:29.239 --> 01:14:32.720
<v Speaker 2>essentially mean any missiles fired into ukraineould get shot down

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01:14:33.479 --> 01:14:37.359
<v Speaker 2>and they have the capability. I don't know if they

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01:14:37.359 --> 01:14:45.479
<v Speaker 2>have the ability to run a WAX twenty four to

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01:14:45.479 --> 01:14:48.319
<v Speaker 2>seven like the United States does, and you're gonna need

1293
01:14:48.359 --> 01:14:53.880
<v Speaker 2>those airborne warning control planes in order to detect those

1294
01:14:53.880 --> 01:14:59.319
<v Speaker 2>incoming missiles. But yeah, I certainly think that maybe establishing

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01:14:59.319 --> 01:15:04.399
<v Speaker 2>a no fly zone, at least from the European side

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01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:06.920
<v Speaker 2>of the European run no fly zone, that might not

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01:15:07.000 --> 01:15:07.760
<v Speaker 2>be a bad idea.

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<v Speaker 1>So that in combination with the continued support of munitions

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01:15:10.840 --> 01:15:16.279
<v Speaker 1>and money to fund this should be enough, I think. So.

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01:15:16.520 --> 01:15:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's like I said, that's all they really wanted, right,

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01:15:20.880 --> 01:15:22.000
<v Speaker 2>give us the weapons we need.

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01:15:22.039 --> 01:15:24.520
<v Speaker 1>They never called for actual troops I agree, You're correct,

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01:15:24.560 --> 01:15:26.560
<v Speaker 1>they never did. I guess.

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01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:26.920
<v Speaker 2>I guess.

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01:15:26.960 --> 01:15:31.640
<v Speaker 1>The other factor is will hooting back off eventually? You know,

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01:15:31.760 --> 01:15:34.239
<v Speaker 1>the longer this goes out, it goes on. But will

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01:15:34.239 --> 01:15:35.680
<v Speaker 1>he eventually back off?

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01:15:36.640 --> 01:15:40.600
<v Speaker 2>That's that's that's a good question. I you know, his

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01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:45.840
<v Speaker 2>his goal. The goal of Russia is to turn Ukraine

1310
01:15:45.880 --> 01:15:49.720
<v Speaker 2>into a satellite state. So one of two things is

1311
01:15:49.760 --> 01:15:52.359
<v Speaker 2>going to happen. They're either going to turn Ukraine into

1312
01:15:52.359 --> 01:15:58.079
<v Speaker 2>a satellite state, Russia is eventually going to collapse. And

1313
01:15:58.399 --> 01:16:02.399
<v Speaker 2>I actually believe one of the reasons that our strategy

1314
01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:07.199
<v Speaker 2>at one point during the early administration was let's get

1315
01:16:07.239 --> 01:16:10.319
<v Speaker 2>out of Ukraine. Let's just let Russia take it, because

1316
01:16:10.359 --> 01:16:15.920
<v Speaker 2>then absolute nightmare scenario is what happens if Russia and

1317
01:16:16.039 --> 01:16:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Ukraine continued to fight for the next four years, and

1318
01:16:20.640 --> 01:16:25.720
<v Speaker 2>then China invades Taiwan, right, and then Russia collapses, and

1319
01:16:25.760 --> 01:16:30.720
<v Speaker 2>now we have a collapse state with nuclear weapons. We

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01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:34.199
<v Speaker 2>have to go secure those weapons right now. The first

1321
01:16:34.239 --> 01:16:39.680
<v Speaker 2>time that Russia collapsed, people didn't leave their post, right

1322
01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:42.039
<v Speaker 2>even though they weren't getting paid or they didn't really

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01:16:42.119 --> 01:16:44.960
<v Speaker 2>know if they had a country anymore, they stayed by

1324
01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:49.159
<v Speaker 2>their post and they guarded those nuclear weapons. But I

1325
01:16:49.279 --> 01:16:53.800
<v Speaker 2>don't know if that's going to be the case if

1326
01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:57.479
<v Speaker 2>Russia collapses to the point where you have regional warlords

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01:16:58.039 --> 01:17:01.960
<v Speaker 2>who take over and you know, now they're not gonna

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01:17:01.960 --> 01:17:05.600
<v Speaker 2>be able to use those nuclear weapons because all the

1329
01:17:05.640 --> 01:17:09.560
<v Speaker 2>permissive action links are in Moscow. Right But eventually you

1330
01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:11.800
<v Speaker 2>can take the plutonium out of there, you can give

1331
01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:15.079
<v Speaker 2>it to another nation, they can build their own bob

1332
01:17:15.119 --> 01:17:16.760
<v Speaker 2>eventually some of all fear style.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you do you think do you think Russia

1334
01:17:21.560 --> 01:17:23.880
<v Speaker 1>may be on the ridge of plausiphist does extend any

1335
01:17:23.920 --> 01:17:25.479
<v Speaker 1>longer it keeps going.

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01:17:26.760 --> 01:17:32.199
<v Speaker 2>I think they could collapse mainly because you know, at

1337
01:17:32.279 --> 01:17:39.560
<v Speaker 2>some point there's just no there, there's they're fighting their

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01:17:39.600 --> 01:17:44.399
<v Speaker 2>own economy, so you know when right now.

1339
01:17:44.359 --> 01:17:45.960
<v Speaker 1>We're trying to stay ahead of it, right with this

1340
01:17:46.239 --> 01:17:46.600
<v Speaker 1>this war.

1341
01:17:47.439 --> 01:17:51.760
<v Speaker 2>So they're paying. So they have laborers and they have soldiers,

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01:17:51.880 --> 01:17:56.000
<v Speaker 2>and right now in the factories in Russia, like you

1343
01:17:56.079 --> 01:17:58.600
<v Speaker 2>can either join the army or you get a job

1344
01:17:58.680 --> 01:18:03.479
<v Speaker 2>at a factory, and so Russia is paying money. These

1345
01:18:03.479 --> 01:18:07.720
<v Speaker 2>are compracti key, These are not conscripted soldiers. These guys

1346
01:18:07.800 --> 01:18:11.159
<v Speaker 2>are being paid to join the army, and right now

1347
01:18:13.039 --> 01:18:16.960
<v Speaker 2>they're paying them enough money that people think, well, I'm

1348
01:18:16.960 --> 01:18:20.199
<v Speaker 2>going to roll the dice and run the risk of

1349
01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:24.079
<v Speaker 2>joining the army for all this this fucking full of money.

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01:18:25.600 --> 01:18:30.640
<v Speaker 2>And the issue is that some of the weapons manufacturing

1351
01:18:30.680 --> 01:18:34.720
<v Speaker 2>companies they can't find workers, so they raise wages. So

1352
01:18:35.159 --> 01:18:38.079
<v Speaker 2>now people go to the weapons manufacturing company instead of

1353
01:18:38.119 --> 01:18:41.279
<v Speaker 2>joining the army. So the army raises wages, so then

1354
01:18:41.600 --> 01:18:45.079
<v Speaker 2>the other companies raise wages, and they just keep raising wages.

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01:18:45.159 --> 01:18:48.239
<v Speaker 2>The Army raises and the French companies raised wages. I

1356
01:18:48.239 --> 01:18:50.640
<v Speaker 2>think twenty percent of Russia's economy is geared towards the

1357
01:18:50.640 --> 01:18:53.760
<v Speaker 2>war right now. And you know, one of the scary

1358
01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:56.920
<v Speaker 2>parts I've said is that if you turn that off,

1359
01:18:58.159 --> 01:19:02.319
<v Speaker 2>that's going to be a big problem because you can't

1360
01:19:02.359 --> 01:19:07.199
<v Speaker 2>just let's say Russia wins the war, right if they

1361
01:19:07.199 --> 01:19:10.720
<v Speaker 2>don't have a soft landing with their economy. There's going

1362
01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:16.680
<v Speaker 2>to be a huge issue, a massive issue, because you

1363
01:19:16.840 --> 01:19:20.760
<v Speaker 2>have all these people who they had a job one

1364
01:19:20.840 --> 01:19:24.199
<v Speaker 2>day and now they don't have a job, and maybe

1365
01:19:24.319 --> 01:19:28.680
<v Speaker 2>demobilize soldiers, and these soldiers they come back and yeah,

1366
01:19:28.760 --> 01:19:31.279
<v Speaker 2>they have a bunch of money that only lasts so long,

1367
01:19:31.760 --> 01:19:35.680
<v Speaker 2>right then they might drink it all a way. Eventually

1368
01:19:36.960 --> 01:19:40.760
<v Speaker 2>people You know, when you have a society and you

1369
01:19:40.880 --> 01:19:42.920
<v Speaker 2>just taught all these people how to use guns and

1370
01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:47.000
<v Speaker 2>they come back to their job, what happens, Well, people

1371
01:19:47.039 --> 01:19:48.960
<v Speaker 2>like that have always figured out how to get a gun.

1372
01:19:49.560 --> 01:19:53.520
<v Speaker 2>And Russia's gun laws are not the same as the

1373
01:19:53.640 --> 01:19:58.119
<v Speaker 2>United States, but you can buy a gun. So I

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01:19:58.159 --> 01:20:02.039
<v Speaker 2>think that's the kind of the nightmare scenario for Russia

1375
01:20:02.079 --> 01:20:04.840
<v Speaker 2>where let's say they win, but then they kind of

1376
01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:09.039
<v Speaker 2>lose as well because their economy collapses and we need

1377
01:20:09.079 --> 01:20:12.399
<v Speaker 2>to the point where you can only raise wages so much. Right.

1378
01:20:13.039 --> 01:20:19.239
<v Speaker 2>What is Russia's main export right now? Cold natural gas oil, right,

1379
01:20:19.720 --> 01:20:21.359
<v Speaker 2>and the rest of the world can only buy so

1380
01:20:21.479 --> 01:20:26.079
<v Speaker 2>much of that. So and a lot of their extraction

1381
01:20:26.159 --> 01:20:28.119
<v Speaker 2>equipment is made in the West, so they can't get

1382
01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:31.800
<v Speaker 2>spare parts for that. They also don't really have machine

1383
01:20:31.840 --> 01:20:34.199
<v Speaker 2>tool industry. A lot of the machine tool industry is

1384
01:20:34.239 --> 01:20:38.560
<v Speaker 2>in Germany, the Netherlands, the United States. China doesn't even

1385
01:20:38.640 --> 01:20:43.199
<v Speaker 2>have a real machine tool industry. We see and C manufacturing.

1386
01:20:43.720 --> 01:20:47.920
<v Speaker 2>So you're pumping oil as fast as you can for

1387
01:20:48.039 --> 01:20:51.880
<v Speaker 2>the hard currency that can that you can use to

1388
01:20:51.920 --> 01:20:54.439
<v Speaker 2>pay your people and buy weapons and keep this war

1389
01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:57.159
<v Speaker 2>going that at some point you're going to reach the

1390
01:20:57.159 --> 01:20:59.560
<v Speaker 2>limit to how much oil you can actually pump and

1391
01:20:59.640 --> 01:21:04.359
<v Speaker 2>things breaking down so there's less oil. So right, so

1392
01:21:04.399 --> 01:21:08.039
<v Speaker 2>they can only keep this up for so long, and

1393
01:21:08.319 --> 01:21:11.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how long that's going to be, but

1394
01:21:12.640 --> 01:21:16.079
<v Speaker 2>there is a finite limit to how long Russia can

1395
01:21:16.159 --> 01:21:16.920
<v Speaker 2>keep pumping oil.

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01:21:17.880 --> 01:21:20.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, that's true. And then there's the other the

1397
01:21:20.279 --> 01:21:22.560
<v Speaker 1>other factor as to whether or not or when do

1398
01:21:22.640 --> 01:21:26.560
<v Speaker 1>the people start to really turn on Putin and not

1399
01:21:26.680 --> 01:21:29.560
<v Speaker 1>support them anymore, because for the most part, most Russians do.

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01:21:30.680 --> 01:21:36.600
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you when if Russia ever establishes a

1401
01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:39.760
<v Speaker 2>general conscription again, like they tried that. I want to

1402
01:21:39.800 --> 01:21:43.439
<v Speaker 2>say it was in September of twenty and twenty two.

1403
01:21:44.479 --> 01:21:48.479
<v Speaker 2>Russia did a general mobilization and the people hated it

1404
01:21:48.960 --> 01:21:54.279
<v Speaker 2>because there's always been this deal between Moscow, Saint Petersburg

1405
01:21:54.600 --> 01:21:57.359
<v Speaker 2>and Russian politicians, which is, do whatever the hell you

1406
01:21:57.399 --> 01:22:00.359
<v Speaker 2>want to, just don't touch our kids. Right, So, as

1407
01:22:00.359 --> 01:22:04.600
<v Speaker 2>long as the elite in Saint Petersburg and Moscow aren't

1408
01:22:04.640 --> 01:22:08.199
<v Speaker 2>being sent to the front lines, do whatever the heck

1409
01:22:08.279 --> 01:22:11.680
<v Speaker 2>you want. But the second your kids are being sent

1410
01:22:11.720 --> 01:22:14.159
<v Speaker 2>to the front lines, that's that's an issue, and that's

1411
01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:16.199
<v Speaker 2>where you get to actually see real change. You know,

1412
01:22:16.319 --> 01:22:20.520
<v Speaker 2>right now, the whole, the whole thing is being funded

1413
01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:24.880
<v Speaker 2>by taxes on these Russian oligarchs. They can't possibly enjoy

1414
01:22:24.920 --> 01:22:26.880
<v Speaker 2>those high taxes. They want to live in their mansion

1415
01:22:26.880 --> 01:22:30.359
<v Speaker 2>and buy their football teams in England and stuff, right right,

1416
01:22:30.840 --> 01:22:32.159
<v Speaker 2>that's not really good for them either.

1417
01:22:32.319 --> 01:22:35.319
<v Speaker 1>All right, well, I think we're at your time here.

1418
01:22:35.640 --> 01:22:37.319
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to keep talking to it. I can't keep

1419
01:22:37.319 --> 01:22:41.399
<v Speaker 1>you forever, so I appreciate that. Oh yeah, I want to.

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01:22:41.439 --> 01:22:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I want to thank you for coming back on man,

1421
01:22:42.800 --> 01:22:45.079
<v Speaker 1>and I'll see you in touch with you, but it's

1422
01:22:45.079 --> 01:22:48.680
<v Speaker 1>always informative and I like talking to you, so appreciate it.

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01:22:49.279 --> 01:22:52.600
<v Speaker 1>And you know, hopefully we talk again soon. I know

1424
01:22:52.640 --> 01:22:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you're a very busy guy though.

1425
01:22:54.640 --> 01:22:55.479
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much.

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01:22:56.039 --> 01:23:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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01:23:00.119 --> 01:23:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Dot doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo

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<v Speaker 2>do