WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.160 --> 00:00:06.960 On this week's episode, game Spot Australia joins us to 2 00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:23.239 talk about the new consoles and Watchdog's Legion. Hello and 3 00:00:23.280 --> 00:00:26.280 welcome to episode sixty five of Game Spot after Dark. 4 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:28.160 I'm your host Jake Decker, and joining me this week 5 00:00:28.199 --> 00:00:32.439 is Callie Plaguey. Hello, Edmund Tran that's me and Jess McDonald. 6 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:32.799 Hello. 7 00:00:33.479 --> 00:00:37.240 It is a bittersweet episode to say the least ed, 8 00:00:37.479 --> 00:00:40.240 and Jess, this is your last week at GameSpot. We 9 00:00:40.280 --> 00:00:42.359 wanted to make sure we got you both in GameSpot 10 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:43.719 after Dark. There are a lot of people in the 11 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:47.399 discord reaching out with support and whatnot, so I wanted 12 00:00:47.399 --> 00:00:51.359 to get you guys on for one last discussion about games, 13 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:53.320 and it's gonna be a big one. I mean, we've 14 00:00:53.320 --> 00:00:56.960 got the PS five and Xbox Series X we can 15 00:00:57.000 --> 00:00:59.560 talk about. However, we can't talk about much. So I 16 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:01.240 thank you for all your questions you sent me, but 17 00:01:01.479 --> 00:01:05.000 like ninety percent of them we can't answer. But with 18 00:01:05.120 --> 00:01:06.920 that said, how are y'all doing? 19 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:11.760 Oh, you know, pretty good despite other things happening. 20 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:13.680 Yeah, it's it's been exciting. 21 00:01:13.719 --> 00:01:16.799 It's been exciting to actually touch new consoles and like 22 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:20.799 play next gen games to sham with con stick around 23 00:01:20.840 --> 00:01:22.840 for the real deal, but it's exciting. 24 00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:25.239 Nonetheless, I mean we can always, like, have you back 25 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:27.480 on as a guest. We do have guests on this show, 26 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:30.560 so sure, I feel like that's not totally I mean, 27 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:32.519 maybe I'm speaking at a turn here. I'm just saying 28 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:33.400 that's possible. 29 00:01:33.519 --> 00:01:37.879 It's entirely possible. But anyway, normally we would start to 30 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:40.319 show off with the Christian Dale, Ohio segment, except I'm 31 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:42.920 pretty sure both of you have already done it. However, 32 00:01:43.159 --> 00:01:45.400 it's been a while for Jess in particular, because I 33 00:01:45.400 --> 00:01:50.879 think you did it like episode two is sixty three 34 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:54.640 episodes ago, if my math is right. Yeah, yeah, it's 35 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:56.959 been a while. So with that in mind, do you 36 00:01:57.000 --> 00:01:59.680 want to remind the people who you are, Jess that 37 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:00.519 they forgotten? 38 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:05.799 But I'm Jess as referenced. Yeah, I am, and have 39 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:09.560 been and soon will not be a host and producer GameSpot. 40 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:11.039 Yeah. 41 00:02:11.199 --> 00:02:14.960 I've been with GameSpot for like nine years, doing a 42 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:18.000 bunch of different jobs and different roles, and it's a blast. 43 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:21.479 It's the best place ever. You guys are amazing. Yeah, 44 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:26.599 and I play all kinds of video games. I'm excited 45 00:02:26.680 --> 00:02:29.960 for the consoles. I haven't touched either of the next 46 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:32.800 gen consoles yet, so I'm not your expert on that front. 47 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:35.039 But get back to me on launch day and I 48 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:37.680 and I will have my PlayStation at least. 49 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:41.039 So you haven't played some balders Gate though, right. I 50 00:02:41.080 --> 00:02:44.280 know you're a big CRPG person. Yeah, what are your 51 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:45.199 thoughts on that? So far? 52 00:02:45.719 --> 00:02:46.800 I'm really enjoying it. 53 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:49.479 It's interesting because one of the main complaints I saw 54 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:53.159 is that like someone saying they wouldn't recommend it on Steam, 55 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:55.840 and that is just Divinity three, Divinity Original Scene three. 56 00:02:55.960 --> 00:02:59.800 That's fine, That's okay, ten game right there. 57 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:03.560 Yeah, if it's it is more of the same. But 58 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:07.080 I think that's probably something that I played Bold Skate 59 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:10.719 when I was very very young. The earlier games, uh, 60 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:13.080 not all the way through, but I think that's something 61 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:15.719 that would bother Purest more than it bothers me. I 62 00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:20.159 think Divinity Originals Into is probably the best RPG of 63 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:25.520 this generation. Uh so, more of that is great. The 64 00:03:25.560 --> 00:03:28.639 dice roll stuff is interesting. I'm a saved scum person, 65 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:30.960 are you guys? Save scum people are in you, like, 66 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:33.439 let's just keep going live without choices people. 67 00:03:33.759 --> 00:03:35.639 I don't say that. I am, but I actually am. 68 00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:39.360 Okay, I was gonna say ed, because you've definitely told 69 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:41.080 me you like not. You just got to keep going 70 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:43.159 perman death all the way. You just got to live 71 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:46.400 with your choices, all right. Maybe we're all save scum 72 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:48.280 people behind closed doors. 73 00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:50.840 I already have to live with my choices in real life. 74 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:53.520 It told me to do that in a video game. 75 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:55.800 I want to make sure everything is perfect. I am 76 00:03:55.840 --> 00:03:57.800 right there with Yeah. 77 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:01.400 So I was unfortunately playing it on a live Twitch stream, 78 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:03.599 and I just didn't want to be judged by one 79 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:05.360 hundred people. So I was like, I guess I should 80 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:08.120 keep going and pretend that I'm not Save. 81 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:09.080 Of the Earth. 82 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:13.879 But the shame of refloading the save exactly? 83 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:18.319 Oh man, Yeah, this is what's in this what's missing 84 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:20.600 in the in bould Escape three? 85 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:23.079 Yeah, because it's Alli access, right, Yeah, I. 86 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:26.399 Don't I don't actually know. I've played two hours. I 87 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:27.879 don't know how much of the game it is. Do 88 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:29.879 you guys know, Jake, you've played a bit of it, right. 89 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:32.680 Yeah, we played a bit in co op. I think 90 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:35.399 it's like supposed to be like twenty hours long or so, 91 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:39.079 which is pretty decently length. But it seems like it's 92 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:40.879 just like maybe the first act of a game. 93 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:44.439 I still owe the Discord a screenshot of my character 94 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:47.439 who looks like Kim Kardashian. Oh my accident. It was 95 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:48.800 not on purpose, dude. 96 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:51.560 The characters are beautiful, Like I lost my shait. My god, 97 00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:56.480 my character's girlfriend is oh my gosh. Yeah, it's like 98 00:04:56.519 --> 00:04:59.199 you get done making your character and then it's like, okay, 99 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:01.759 now make the character that your character is into. 100 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:05.399 And I was like, what nice little twist. 101 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:09.199 So all the races in this because I played this 102 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:11.319 for like maybe half an hour and like all that 103 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:13.240 was in Character Creator, but it just seems like all 104 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:17.519 the races are basically just humanoid and just like half human, 105 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:20.480 half elf, half devil thing, and like guess, I guess 106 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:24.199 the devil thing was like the most out there species 107 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:27.759 or race. Is there more to come? You know, like 108 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:29.439 are their gnomes and dwarves and stuff. 109 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:30.360 There is a dwarf. 110 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:34.279 I think it's a I think it might have a 111 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:39.240 different and halfling halfling halfway. Yeah, but there's about seven, 112 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:42.000 which is pretty good. The character Creator is really extensive, 113 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:44.839 and also it's just nice because like I remember back 114 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:47.680 playing Old Eldest Grolls games, and there was just no 115 00:05:47.759 --> 00:05:49.680 way to have a good looking character like they were 116 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:51.560 all like uglysin Oh my God. 117 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:52.519 There was just no way. 118 00:05:53.120 --> 00:05:55.439 So it's nice to play an RPG where you're just like, yeah, 119 00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:55.959 I'm cool. 120 00:05:57.199 --> 00:05:59.480 The meta game of any character creator is making the 121 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:04.519 hardest part character. Yeah, I'm really proud of my bloodborn character. 122 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:08.959 Who is I think the hottest possible bloodborn character? You 123 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:10.519 can make it? She's not saying a whole lot. 124 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:14.120 The Doc Soule's character created is a notoriously bad for 125 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:15.480 trying to make good looking characters. 126 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:18.240 Someone looks so pale and like deathly. 127 00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:21.879 Your next challenge, Kelli should be Elder Scrolls four because 128 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:25.360 all the characters look like they swallowed bees or something. 129 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:28.199 I will make it. I will do my best to 130 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:30.000 make it hot. I think that's a series. I mean, 131 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:32.800 I know Monster Factories. It's the opposite of Monster Factory. 132 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:33.560 Is my hitch? 133 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:37.279 So I tune in for that. I watch that anyway. 134 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:39.959 And do you want to refresh the people on who 135 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:40.319 you are? 136 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:41.199 Yes? 137 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:45.360 Hello, I am Edmund Tran and I have been a 138 00:06:45.399 --> 00:06:49.360 game spot for twelve whole years working in Australia in 139 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:51.360 various roles as well I set off as a video 140 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:53.759 producer and kind of did a lot of video for 141 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:56.800 about half my time, and then became an editor and 142 00:06:56.959 --> 00:07:01.120 did a lot of writing, And yeah, that's basically me, 143 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:03.879 and I guess I've been doing a lot of reviews 144 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:05.360 lately and all that kind of stuff, and so you 145 00:07:05.399 --> 00:07:08.399 may have seen me write some of you some reviews 146 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:10.680 of your favorite games or your least favorite games. 147 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:13.680 Games that you scored low. 148 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:16.800 Just for Fallout seventy. 149 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:19.839 Six, that's yeah, let's not forget Shadow of the Tomb 150 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:27.439 rate right. Yeah, still, I'm I get hold onto that score. 151 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:30.040 I think that was an accurate score, and looking in retrospect, 152 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:33.439 like of the three two DA games, that was the 153 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:34.879 right thing to score it. 154 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:36.879 I think, did you give it? 155 00:07:37.240 --> 00:07:38.199 I gave it a six. 156 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:43.600 I always tell people you'll regret if you're on the fence. 157 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:46.040 You'll regret the higher score more often than you'll regret 158 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:48.759 the lower score. I only regret one score that wasn't 159 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:51.240 high enough, and that Started Valley. That's the only score. 160 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:55.399 I'm like, that wasn't high enough. But I started, I 161 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:58.160 gave Started like an eight point four or something. At IgM, 162 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:00.000 I'm like, nah, nine point. 163 00:07:59.879 --> 00:08:04.480 Eight, baby, My only score, regret was into the breach. 164 00:08:04.639 --> 00:08:08.199 I regret that I didn't make that at ten. So good, 165 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:11.040 so good. And the more you play, the more, yeah, 166 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:12.680 the more it reveals itself to be just like an 167 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:17.240 intricately designed piece of Yeah, it's a strategy game that 168 00:08:17.399 --> 00:08:19.560 is just perfect to play again and again and again, 169 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:21.480 and it's just yeah, big regrets. 170 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:25.560 But anyway, I really don't know how I'm gonna do 171 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:27.839 my job without you, Ed. I'm just gonna say that 172 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:29.720 really quickly. I'm not gonna harp on it too much, 173 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:34.600 but Ed has been absolutely instrumental in games past review coverage. 174 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:37.080 If you don't know, if you don't like look at 175 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:40.039 the byline when you re reviews. Ed has done basically 176 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:43.960 everything ever And we even had a Game of the 177 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:46.080 Year discussion where we were like, we have to wait 178 00:08:46.159 --> 00:08:50.440 until Ed's awake because he reviewed like eight of the 179 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:52.240 ten games on this list we're talking about. 180 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:57.720 So yeah, you'll be fine. There are no games coming out. 181 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:03.120 There's still more games games aren't Jess has also reviewed 182 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:05.960 a lot of games, So just from a reviews editor perspective, 183 00:09:06.960 --> 00:09:10.639 you guys know your games, and also I love you. 184 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:15.360 I love you too. What it's worth to be hugely sappy. 185 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:19.480 I would not have reviewed anything if it wasn't for you, Kelly, 186 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:24.480 Like just like having internal like support and someone to 187 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:27.200 be like, no, you can do this, you are capable 188 00:09:27.240 --> 00:09:30.159 of it, like you're the best anyway, you both are. 189 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:30.960 You're all right. 190 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:33.320 It was so premature for this episode, but I just 191 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:34.120 had to say it. 192 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:35.639 No, I love it. 193 00:09:36.840 --> 00:09:38.519 I do have a question ed It's a little off 194 00:09:38.519 --> 00:09:41.480 topic here, but you you said you were a producer 195 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:44.919 and now an editor. Have you ever called yourself a predator? 196 00:09:47.360 --> 00:09:49.879 I've seen some people do this. This isn't like I've 197 00:09:49.879 --> 00:09:53.679 seen people in like LinkedIn have like predator who says this. 198 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:56.879 I thought you were doing an arrested development, like an analysis. 199 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:00.600 I know it's bad, but like, I don't know many 200 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:05.080 producer editors, so people linked I think one time I 201 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:07.320 saw it on LinkedIn and someone to describe themselves as presis. 202 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:09.879 It's like when people are like, I'm a social media ninja. 203 00:10:10.200 --> 00:10:11.679 I actually know who it is, but I'm not going 204 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:15.440 to say it on the podcast. But anyway, it's a 205 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:18.399 big week. There were quite a few games out and 206 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:21.720 coming out. Uh, but Callie, do you want to start 207 00:10:21.720 --> 00:10:22.679 what have you been playing. 208 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:26.039 Sure, I just wanted to say that, for the first 209 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:29.480 time since I got the game, I missed a day 210 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:33.279 in Animal Crossing New Horizons. Oh no, it's because I've 211 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:35.679 been playing Persona five Royal and it is the only 212 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:41.320 game I care about ever. Yes, I I just really 213 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:43.519 needed to take a second to say that I am 214 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:48.000 absolutely kicking myself for not playing it sooner, and it 215 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:51.480 is my game of the year so far. I'm not 216 00:10:51.639 --> 00:10:53.399 even like a third of the way and I'm already like, 217 00:10:53.440 --> 00:10:55.639 this is the this is the best, this is the 218 00:10:55.679 --> 00:11:00.200 absolute best. I regret waiting's so I'm so mad that 219 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:02.000 I waited this long. I don't know what's wrong with me. 220 00:11:02.440 --> 00:11:03.440 I forgot. 221 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:07.320 Yeah, I mean I've tried. 222 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:08.080 I really. 223 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:11.759 I think the secret sauce was being humble and playing 224 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:13.679 with the English voiceover because I was like, I'm gonna 225 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:15.679 play on the Japanese voiceover because I hate how they 226 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:20.360 say saccamado like that, and and then Jake was like, 227 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:23.480 why don't you play with English? English is good? The 228 00:11:23.519 --> 00:11:28.519 English is good, and there's so much read Koto. Yeah, yeah, 229 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:32.080 but uh, there's so much reading and so much to 230 00:11:32.120 --> 00:11:34.320 take in. In the first like ten hours of that like 231 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:38.120 tutorial period that I think the first couple of times 232 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:40.000 I tried to play the game, playing it in Japanese 233 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:43.600 really hampered my ability to get through that. And I 234 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:45.360 definitely like, I'm already at the point where I like, 235 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:48.399 I'm going to replay this with the Japanese voiceover just 236 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:53.240 to strengthen because I want to practice Japanese. But I 237 00:11:53.279 --> 00:11:56.720 am absolutely obsessed with it, and it caused me to 238 00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:59.120 not play Animal Crusting New Horizons, which says. 239 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:01.720 Everything, is this your first time through it? 240 00:12:02.159 --> 00:12:05.919 Yes, yeah, this isn't a bad time to start playing it. 241 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:08.279 I don't think because Persona Royal came out or Persona 242 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:10.840 five Royal came out this year, so it's not like 243 00:12:10.879 --> 00:12:13.840 you're playing Persona five from twenty seventeen or whenever it 244 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:17.720 came out, it at least has some like relevancy, and 245 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:20.559 I don't know, I feel like Persona five Royal could 246 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:23.159 be a Game of the Year contender, you know, definitely 247 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:24.919 there are many people on the staff who would say 248 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:25.519 that for sure. 249 00:12:25.799 --> 00:12:28.480 Yeah, absolutely, I haven't touched it because I went through 250 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:31.159 the original, But Jess, you've played both now, right. 251 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:37.320 Yeah, Yeah, Royal's really different. It's really really Yeah, yeah, 252 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:40.000 because the news stuff isn't just like tacked on at 253 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:42.240 the end. Because I'm a person who doesn't play DLC 254 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:45.240 that comes out like a year or two after the 255 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:49.000 original game because I'm done with it. But this is 256 00:12:49.320 --> 00:12:52.639 there's so many new mechanics and the two new characters 257 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:55.080 and new story elements that are all woven in that 258 00:12:55.159 --> 00:12:57.600 it's like playing enough of a new game. I guess 259 00:12:57.600 --> 00:12:59.759 it's like a director's cut of a favorite movie. It's 260 00:12:59.840 --> 00:13:02.559 just like there's enough extra all the way through that 261 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:07.440 you don't feel especially having played the first one right 262 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:10.720 after it came out. It's been a while anyway, God, 263 00:13:10.759 --> 00:13:13.120 I loved replaying that game. I had such a good time. 264 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:14.559 It's who do you like so far? 265 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:20.039 Cali? I really like Timmy is the goth doctor. I 266 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:24.879 just I just like her whole vibe. And I I 267 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:27.000 have a soft spot for On because I feel like 268 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:30.960 I just feel for her so much, and I gives 269 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:33.200 that because nobody ever says their best girl is On 270 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:37.639 and I feel bad for her because she's she's nice. 271 00:13:38.360 --> 00:13:42.960 I have met Makoda and I but I'm like kind 272 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:46.440 of like in the early stages of her thing. But yeah, 273 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:51.159 I'm like, oh, nobody likes you enough. I'm sorry, but 274 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:54.000 your whole thing is that people were mean to you 275 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:57.279 because they thought you were a slut, So I want 276 00:13:57.279 --> 00:14:02.399 to be nicer to you. But yeah, I'm I'm very much, 277 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:05.000 very much into it. And yeah, like from what I 278 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:09.399 know about what's new, I think, like you know, I 279 00:14:09.399 --> 00:14:11.799 haven't I haven't really played I've played some of the original, 280 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:14.480 so it just seems like a natural extension of the 281 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:16.799 mechanics that were there, Like they just like they don't 282 00:14:16.840 --> 00:14:22.159 feel like superfluous, if that makes sense. Like especially the 283 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:25.120 baton pass mechanic I think is so smart and works 284 00:14:25.159 --> 00:14:26.600 so well with what the game is and what the 285 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:31.879 themes are. Yeah, I'm just like I I started a 286 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:34.360 one hundred hour game right when the new consoles were launching. 287 00:14:34.440 --> 00:14:38.240 That's on me, but I don't regret it at all. 288 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:41.039 And Jake's read it. I actually can justify it to 289 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:44.080 myself because we you got to play the games that 290 00:14:44.120 --> 00:14:45.840 came out this year, and we did give it tense. 291 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:48.159 So yeah, it'll make intend for Shure. 292 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:53.399 Far Out Fantasy came out this year, that's wild it 293 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:55.480 that game too. 294 00:14:55.879 --> 00:14:58.039 I need to play that one anyway. I kind of 295 00:14:58.039 --> 00:14:59.559 messed this up a little bit because I didn't see 296 00:14:59.559 --> 00:15:01.559 you put balled. There's gate three on what you've been playing, Jess, 297 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:03.519 So I asked you questions about it during your intro. 298 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:07.519 But is there anything you'd like to add about Balter's Gate? 299 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:11.559 I can just keep talking about Persona. 300 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:17.960 You know. Persona five is the first JPG I ever plaied. 301 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:20.360 I've never played JPGs. 302 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:23.080 Did I miss four at one point? Yeah? 303 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:24.679 I tried, but I couldn't get into it because I 304 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:26.639 thought it was way too grindy And it's way less 305 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:27.840 grindy than a Persona four. 306 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:31.120 Try Persona four on PC because you can like mess 307 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:33.000 with the settings so much to get rid of the 308 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:36.240 grind entirely. Like I've played the beginning of Persona four 309 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:38.360 a couple of times, but I decided to on PC 310 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:40.679 and just crank the XP up, crank the money up, 311 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:43.240 so I just sprint through the dungeons and that is it, 312 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:45.360 and then it's all just chatting with people. 313 00:15:45.480 --> 00:15:47.639 Okay. I mean I was going to say, I don't 314 00:15:47.639 --> 00:15:50.120 know how you would ever go back in time to 315 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:53.919 play a JRPG after Persona five, Like, like, I feel 316 00:15:53.919 --> 00:15:56.639 like I wouldn't be able to recommend you one that 317 00:15:56.679 --> 00:15:58.559 would be like that would get its hooks in you 318 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:00.720 more like I would really struggle. But I think yeah, 319 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:04.480 Jake's solution with before g on is it Golden that's 320 00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:04.879 on PC. 321 00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:06.200 Yeah. 322 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:09.039 Yeah, and a lot of like Square Enix games including 323 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:10.960 those options too, which you know, make them a lot 324 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:13.120 more playable in this modern day and age. 325 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:15.240 Which is nice. It's a good idea. 326 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:18.039 Well. Speaking of JRPG's house, Watchdogs ed. 327 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:23.720 You can make it a JPG if you know you can't. 328 00:16:23.799 --> 00:16:25.559 I heard there's CaCrO cass players. 329 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:28.039 Oh really, I'm not encountered on yet. Alisander sent me 330 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:29.759 a bunch of footage up the crazy people that he 331 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:33.240 got recruited into his squad, and I have not encountered 332 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:34.159 any of those people. 333 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:37.720 Yet, really yet. Yeah, Watchdogs is really good. 334 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:40.600 I'm only like maybe ten to fifteen hours in so far, 335 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:42.600 and I played a bunch of previews, so I've mostly 336 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:46.039 just been retreading that ground. But I quite like it 337 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:49.080 so far. Like I am really enjoying the players. Anyone 338 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:51.279 mechanic where you can just pick up anyone off the 339 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:54.399 street and recruit them, And I got really addicted in 340 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:57.360 the first few hours to like scouring the streets of London, 341 00:16:57.399 --> 00:16:59.799 trying to put together the perfect crew. And so I 342 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:02.399 was all my time doing that, just walking down like 343 00:17:02.440 --> 00:17:04.920 looking at everyone's traits and stuff, and you know, I 344 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:06.720 talk to them and like listen to their voice, and. 345 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:08.519 I was like, I don't really like your voice that much. 346 00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:10.759 Sorry, you have good skills, but I don't really want 347 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:12.160 to hear you for like twenty hours. 348 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:13.200 And so it's that. 349 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:17.200 Yeah, I've heard someone refer to it as like a 350 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:19.839 civilization style one more turn kind of thing, like you 351 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:21.559 just see one more person, one more person, you try 352 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:25.319 and get their mission and try and recruit them, and yeah, yeah, 353 00:17:25.319 --> 00:17:26.279 so I like that part. 354 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:27.559 I am. 355 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:30.519 I did start charging through the story a little bit, 356 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:34.880 and then in doing so seeing sort of the limitations 357 00:17:35.039 --> 00:17:40.000 of that players anyone mechanic, because I feel like, you know, 358 00:17:40.880 --> 00:17:42.519 a person will come with a set of skills. They 359 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:45.359 might have one skill or four skills, but that'll be 360 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:46.799 it for the game basically. 361 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:53.720 And while like you can do most things with most people. 362 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:56.480 So for example, if you have a hacker character and 363 00:17:56.519 --> 00:17:58.759 you have or you have an assassin character, or you 364 00:17:58.839 --> 00:18:02.559 have you know, a character that relies on drones or whatever, 365 00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:04.960 they can all kind of go through missions the same way. 366 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:07.200 They can all do stealth, they can all do gunplay, 367 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:10.000 they can all do melee combat. Really well, it's just 368 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:13.480 varying degrees of where they might excel even further, and 369 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:15.480 so that kind of just feels a little bit samey 370 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:17.759 after a while, when if you're not just purely role 371 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:20.119 playing in your head, like mechanically it is the same 372 00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:24.839 and I can't. Yeah, knowing that I'm just the beginning 373 00:18:24.839 --> 00:18:26.599 of the story and knowing that I'll have a lot 374 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:30.079 more story missions to go yet makes me realize that 375 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:32.119 there isn't much progression with these characters. I just can 376 00:18:32.119 --> 00:18:35.519 collect more, but each one doesn't really evolve when it's 377 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:39.240 in their own unique way, which is both a blessing 378 00:18:39.279 --> 00:18:43.519 and a curse, because you know, having everyone be capable 379 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:46.400 is good. In the previous stages, I talked a lot 380 00:18:46.440 --> 00:18:49.000 about how there are some certain characters with some negative traits, 381 00:18:50.359 --> 00:18:55.000 certain people who have a specific yeah, they have de 382 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:58.119 buffs basically like some might die permanently, some move slower, 383 00:18:58.160 --> 00:18:59.640 some can't do this, some can't do that, And I 384 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:01.720 think with those kind of characters might make it a 385 00:19:01.759 --> 00:19:04.599 lot more interesting because you need to actually cater your 386 00:19:04.640 --> 00:19:07.200 play style in a particular way. You're kind of forced 387 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:09.960 to do that. And perma death as well. You can 388 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:12.680 just set a like a like a universal perman death 389 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:15.279 option on when you start the game, and I think 390 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:16.880 that would make the game a lot more interesting too. 391 00:19:16.920 --> 00:19:18.960 You you definitely like play a lot. 392 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:21.039 More carefully as you do with perman death, and I 393 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:24.200 think you'd really cherish those characters a little bit more. 394 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:28.880 Like Yeah, but so far pretty good. 395 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:31.680 Yeah, I've been playing it too, and speaking of saves coming, 396 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:34.960 I've been playing on Permia death and uh, you know, 397 00:19:35.119 --> 00:19:37.400 maybe character died and I just had all to four 398 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:44.119 and they were back. I have similar feelings as that though. 399 00:19:44.559 --> 00:19:47.839 I really enjoy the fact that you can play as 400 00:19:47.880 --> 00:19:49.519 any character. I think that's really neat, and they do 401 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:51.319