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Speaker 7: All right, then we go, Fred Rogan Rodney Pete at
Speaker 7: five to seventy LA sports two hour program for us today,
Speaker 7: Dan Wiki join us at the top of the one.
Speaker 7: We'll get into the Lakers and what lebron did last night,
Speaker 7: which is absolutely mind blowing. But let's get started with
Speaker 7: the Dodgers today, Rodney and more reports. We have talked
Speaker 7: about it, we have hypopthesized about it, but there are
Speaker 7: more reports that they would be the favorites now to
Speaker 7: sign Roki Sazaki, the twenty three year old Japanese right hander.
Speaker 7: He is hosted. That means at that age they don't
Speaker 7: have to go out and spend Yamamoto money on him.
Speaker 7: His deal could rival the deal Otani had with the Angels.
Speaker 7: And what does that mean? It means he is cost
Speaker 7: effective and more importantly, that means they have even more
Speaker 7: money to improve the team and add to the pitching staff. Really,
Speaker 7: the only team, it seems that might be in the
Speaker 7: running are the Padres, because Suzaki knows you darbage and
Speaker 7: has admired you darbage. But if you got to pick
Speaker 7: one person to admire you, is it going to be
Speaker 7: you darbage with the Padres or you come into La
Speaker 7: to admire Otani and his pal Yamamoto. I think it
Speaker 7: looks pretty good for the Dodgers, and it would be
Speaker 7: an embarrassment of riches for the Dodgers. And soon they
Speaker 7: will have an entire Pacific rim pitching staff. Will the Dodgers?
Speaker 7: They just they just might.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, and they got a half Asian manager as well.
Speaker 8: I mean throw that in, you know, I don't know,
Speaker 8: you know, a lot of a lot of guys look
Speaker 8: up to certain guys. Yes, Otani is a superstar and
Speaker 8: he's the guy now, and Yamamoto just signed a big deal.
Speaker 8: But for I get for kids growing up, like when
Speaker 8: you're playing Little League, you know, in Japan, a lot
Speaker 8: of even even Otani said this that he looked up
Speaker 8: to you, Darvish, right, you darbish was the guy. He'd
Speaker 8: been doing it for years, did it in Texas, did
Speaker 8: it now, doing it in San Diego.
Speaker 7: So a lot of guys look up to him.
Speaker 8: Same thing with them, you know, when each Yiro was
Speaker 8: coming up, it was him, and and it was the
Speaker 8: guy uh the King Kong from New York.
Speaker 7: Uh, Matt Sui.
Speaker 8: Yeah, people looked up to and and those were the heroes,
Speaker 8: and people wanted to play in Seattle, wanted to play
Speaker 8: in New York because of those guys. So I don't
Speaker 8: I don't see that being an issue. And I understand
Speaker 8: and at some of them, my you know favor or you
Speaker 8: Darvis is their hero and and and would love to
Speaker 8: play with him. So but going back to him and
Speaker 8: his contract, so that means that the Dodgers or anybody
Speaker 8: could sign him, he would be under club control. For
Speaker 8: six years, right, Yes, for six years, and that's because
Speaker 8: of age. Yes, that's because of his age. Right, So
Speaker 8: he could be under control. And when he say under control,
Speaker 8: we're not talking about not talking about minimum wage, all right,
Speaker 8: there's got to be something where he's getting a little
Speaker 8: bit like o'tany got some money at the age of well,
Speaker 8: I think he comes in like a two million I
Speaker 8: think would be an over sliding upward scale for that
Speaker 8: going forward once.
Speaker 9: He gets to arbitration, which would be the final two
Speaker 9: or three years, I think yes, But I think it's
Speaker 9: a set amount the first couple of years, which is
Speaker 9: about two and a half million dollars.
Speaker 7: Right, which you can survive on. Let's just let's just
Speaker 7: put that out there. Two and a half million dollars.
Speaker 7: I think you're okay. I think you'll be all right
Speaker 7: at two and a half I it's pauper wages compared
Speaker 7: to what some people make, but to the average person
Speaker 7: two and a half million, you're gonna be just fine,
Speaker 7: of course, you know.
Speaker 8: I mean, I look, there's a lot of there's a
Speaker 8: lot of positives and envy from other leagues when it
Speaker 8: comes to the Players Association in baseball and what they've
Speaker 8: done over the years, and how empowered baseball players are.
Speaker 8: They got the best union in all of sports and
Speaker 8: probably all of the workplaces, is the Baseball Union. The
Speaker 8: way those guys get paid and taken care of and
Speaker 8: lifetime this and lifetime health and all those things and
Speaker 8: guaranteed money.
Speaker 7: They've done a great job. This one. I don't know.
Speaker 8: I mean, even with even with the American players that
Speaker 8: come up through the minor leagues where they got to
Speaker 8: wait so long. I mean, think about it when Cody
Speaker 8: Bellinger went off for those first couple of years and
Speaker 8: couldn't really get paid paid. He had to go to arbitration,
Speaker 8: and then it was you know, it took a minute
Speaker 8: for him to get to get his money, and then
Speaker 8: he fell off and really didn't make the gigantic two
Speaker 8: hundred three hundred million dollars that he could have made
Speaker 8: after the MVP season, you know. So I don't know
Speaker 8: if that's a great thing, but it is. It makes
Speaker 8: it very applical for the Dodgers to go after him
Speaker 8: without really taking any risk because it's not gonna cost
Speaker 8: him anything and they can still go out and sign
Speaker 8: other guys. So why not if this is the guy
Speaker 8: they think is the next Yamamoto and the next up
Speaker 8: and coming. Why not go after him, and especially after
Speaker 8: you win the World Series? Why that's stockpile.
Speaker 7: Well, here's the thing. So let's say you go after
Speaker 7: him right now. And Kevin said, when he's available for arbitration,
Speaker 7: things will change. So you have him two years. After
Speaker 7: two years, you have a fair sample size. He's twenty five,
Speaker 7: twenty six years old, and you're thinking, okay, he is
Speaker 7: the real deal. At that point, you can just go
Speaker 7: in buy him out of arbitration. Let's get this locked
Speaker 7: up right now. Yeah, let's just take care of it
Speaker 7: right now. Why are we gonna continue like this? You
Speaker 7: deserve more, We want you longer, So let's just fix.
Speaker 8: It, which would be smart if he's going in the
Speaker 8: right direction, because then you're gonna you're not gonna fall
Speaker 8: into the bidding war of a three hundred million dollar guy.
Speaker 8: You may get him for two, may get him for one,
Speaker 8: fifty over five years. I mean, you know you're not
Speaker 8: gonna have to go and compete with other teams out
Speaker 8: there if you go to them early and do that right, So,
Speaker 8: I mean.
Speaker 7: To me, it's a no brainer. And by the way,
Speaker 7: speaking of spending money. That just just hit me because
Speaker 7: I saw it the other day. Do you see what
Speaker 7: they're doing at Dodger Stadium. Have you seen this? And
Speaker 7: maybe you haven't. No, they're redoing the home clubhouse. Oh yes,
Speaker 7: what am I talking about? What am I talking? What
Speaker 7: am I talking about? We just had this, I mean,
Speaker 7: I just my son, are Jack keep talking about? You know,
Speaker 7: he's a clubby? So after the World Series it was over,
Speaker 7: you think they get a break, but all the people
Speaker 7: that work there, especially the clubbies, had to go in
Speaker 7: at six am every single morning for the next week
Speaker 7: because they had to clear out everything in the clubhouse.
Speaker 7: They had to clear everything because they were remodeling the
Speaker 7: whole thing, the weight room, the clubhouse, the cave, is
Speaker 7: everything down there and building a new state of the
Speaker 7: arts space down there, which which I thought it was
Speaker 7: pretty good to begin with, you know what they had,
Speaker 7: I thought it was pretty good.
Speaker 8: But they're doing They're they're totally remodeling it. So yeah,
Speaker 8: I did know that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And and Kevin and Ronnie said they're doing the
Speaker 7: visitors clubhouse as well. Yeah. Yeah. The Visitors Clubhouse wasn't great. No,
Speaker 7: it wasn't great.
Speaker 8: No, you want to know the worst place to go.
Speaker 8: They putting the cage in there for them visitors too.
Speaker 7: No, No, I know they have to have a weight room.
Speaker 7: They're probably upgrade. Dad. Yeah, you want to know the
Speaker 7: very worst. And I know the charm and the beauty
Speaker 7: and the majesty a Fenway Park, I understand, I get it.
Speaker 7: Sure there's something unique and special.
Speaker 8: What a dump? Those duckhouts are dump? It is to
Speaker 8: make shift the makeshift the bullpen. Then they try to
Speaker 8: do that underneath something like that and just bad.
Speaker 7: It was the visiting clubhouse. Bad bad, Yeah, and they
Speaker 7: don't care. Well that's the way it goes. You're hearing
Speaker 7: the the historical monument and this is what you get.
Speaker 7: It's bad. They need to fix that stuff. Not that
Speaker 7: I think.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I wonder if there's a mandate now that you
Speaker 8: have to do it. And I haven't been to to
Speaker 8: to Wrigley or or Finway, the the you know, visitors clubhouse,
Speaker 8: but I know it's not great. But I know in
Speaker 8: the NFL they they they set a standard for the
Speaker 8: visitors clubhouse when these new stadiums are built and renovations
Speaker 8: are made. Because we used to go to places like
Speaker 8: like going to New England, New England at the old
Speaker 8: old stadium there was the worst. And everybody will tell
Speaker 8: you Cleveland was the worst stadium. I mean you you
Speaker 8: had to share a locker and it was a shower
Speaker 8: that only had three shower heads, you know, so you
Speaker 8: had to wait in line to take a shower after
Speaker 8: the game. It was it was absolutely terrible. But yeah,
Speaker 8: I think there's standards now where you got it. It
Speaker 8: has to be better.
Speaker 7: Were you know, in the NFL, they had surveys about
Speaker 7: teams practice facilities and basically shamed clubs into stop putting
Speaker 7: players in dumps. I mean in Cincinnati they were shamed,
Speaker 7: shamed the organization. They had to rebuild things just for
Speaker 7: them to practice in because it was so substandard and
Speaker 7: so awful that they conducted a survey. And the players
Speaker 7: vote now and they vote on their facilities, and if
Speaker 7: you're at the bottom of that list, you got to
Speaker 7: fix it. Now. Think about the owners that are so
Speaker 7: damned cheap. Hey, you know what we have been in
Speaker 7: this former elementary school for the last thirty five years. Granted,
Speaker 7: the seats are small and the rooms aren't very large,
Speaker 7: but that's okay because that's how we do it. Then
Speaker 7: you turn around and you look at what the rams
Speaker 7: are built, or even the Chargers now in El Segundo.
Speaker 7: Think about the Rams though you just mentioned the Rams,
Speaker 7: Think about the Rams where they were in Anaheim.
Speaker 8: Eric, Eric will tell you about it. They were at
Speaker 8: the elementary school, and the Raiders when they were here,
Speaker 8: Raiders and Elsa Gundle. We're at an old converted elementary school.
Speaker 8: It was terrible.
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Speaker 8: I think the cafeteria was like the weight room, and
Speaker 8: it was It was bad. And then look at the
Speaker 8: way the rams are now and about to be when
Speaker 8: they moved to Woodland Hills. That is going to be ridiculous.
Speaker 7: But look at the Chargers we were there. Yeah, look
Speaker 7: at that facility. Yeah, you know. The problem was, and
Speaker 7: I think people have said it over years, and maybe
Speaker 7: it speaks to baseball as well. You come out of
Speaker 7: a really good Division I school, a college, yep, and
Speaker 7: they've got top notche facilities because they're recruiting people. Yeah,
Speaker 7: Alabama or Ohio State, or you come out of Michigan.
Speaker 7: You come out of one of those places, and then
Speaker 7: you go to an NFL team, like you said, like
Speaker 7: you mentioned Cincinnati, you go, wow, this is the NFL Jackson.
Speaker 7: When I went to Detroit, I mean, USC wasn't I mean,
Speaker 7: and it will because they're just going to spend another
Speaker 7: two hundred million dollars building a whole football facility now.
Speaker 7: But we had just gotten money from.
Speaker 8: The Olympics to rebuild our weight room and locker room
Speaker 8: over at USC, So they benefited from the Olympics being
Speaker 8: there in eighty four, and so at that time it
Speaker 8: was one of the best before Oregon went crazy, it
Speaker 8: was one of the.
Speaker 7: Best in the pack.
Speaker 8: And then I went to Detroit, and man, thinking I
Speaker 8: went from USC to this where the weight room you had,
Speaker 8: you know, staying on the ceiling and water dripping off
Speaker 8: the top. It was like the old Rocky gym back
Speaker 8: in the day where Mickey was working, you know, in
Speaker 8: a combination locks on the lockers and it was all
Speaker 8: rusty and crusty and stains on the floor, and it
Speaker 8: was just it was ridiculous that this was an NFL team.
Speaker 8: But there are a lot of people like that, as a
Speaker 8: lot of clubs like that. But you're right, you know
Speaker 8: there's there's standards now well, and in baseball as well.
Speaker 8: And the funny thing about the Dodgers, remember that's the
Speaker 8: third older stadium in baseball, and trust me, it does
Speaker 8: not appear that way too long ago, correct me, It
Speaker 8: wasn't too long ago that they rebuilt the locker room. Yeah,
Speaker 8: that's right, because I remember the old clubhouse and I
Speaker 8: knew the new clubhouse. And now this clubhouse is going
Speaker 8: to be better than the newest clubhouse.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's amazing. Where do they find all the room?
Speaker 8: I mean with a not a new stadium, you know,
Speaker 8: it's an older stadium, the oldest, one of the third oldest,
Speaker 8: right like in an old stadium like that, how did they.
Speaker 7: Find the well. When you're spending one hundred million dollars,
Speaker 7: you can make the room. You find the room, you
Speaker 7: find it. But in the structure, the structure, you you
Speaker 7: just know how to do it. Who knows, maybe they're
Speaker 7: building a twelve feet underground. I don't know what they're doing. Yeah,
Speaker 7: But the thing is this years ago, if we're to
Speaker 7: be really honest, this is long before Guggenheim owned the Dodgers.
Speaker 7: It was during the Frank McCort era. And Frank McCourt
Speaker 7: didn't have a lot of money, right, he didn't, He
Speaker 7: wasn't didn't have cash flow, so things were as they were.
Speaker 7: He put in the dugout club seats that he did
Speaker 7: to generate revenue. That was Frank McCourt. But aside from that,
Speaker 7: if you looked at that stadium, and if you're all
Speaker 7: to be completely honest, it was falling apart. It wasn't great. Now.
Speaker 7: I know you grew up going there and I understand
Speaker 7: the significance of it, And even in eighty eight with
Speaker 7: the home run and the Dodgers went in the World
Speaker 7: Series in the early eighties, I got all of that.
Speaker 7: Let's speak completely honest. That place was in disarray. It
Speaker 7: was bad and if you say anything else, you're not
Speaker 7: being honest. So just accept that. Now. When Gugenheim came in,
Speaker 7: there was a train of thought where, you know what,
Speaker 7: they might build a new Dodger Stadium because this thing
Speaker 7: has seen better days. There was that train of thought initially,
Speaker 7: and stankast and said, not only are we not building
Speaker 7: a new Dodger Stadium, because this location is absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 7: We're going to fix this Dodger Stadium up. And now
Speaker 7: when you walk in there, and yes it is not
Speaker 7: brand spanking new, it's not, but you go in there
Speaker 7: that now, I think is one of the nicest stadiums
Speaker 7: again in Major League Baseball. Do you how much money
Speaker 7: the Dodgers have poured into that? And if we had
Speaker 7: stan On he would probably tell us, But I'm thinking
Speaker 7: since Guggenheim has owned the team, I'm thinking it's at
Speaker 7: least five hundred million dollars. Yeah, improving Dodger Stadium, I agree,
Speaker 7: And again, you know it is what it is. You
Speaker 7: can only do so much with an older stadium and
Speaker 7: older facility. You know, it's not gonna be like if
Speaker 7: you've ever been to the New Yankee Stadium or even
Speaker 7: been to City Field. Certain places like that that are
Speaker 7: now state of the art with the new facilities and
Speaker 7: new flooring and everything is you know, updated and all
Speaker 7: that kind of You can't update everything at Dodger Stadium,
Speaker 7: it kind of is what it is. But certain places
Speaker 7: like you, like you mentioned the dugout club, the suites,
Speaker 7: you can you can do different things and improve the
Speaker 7: seating areas.
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Speaker 8: Because it feels like there's enough space to do what
Speaker 8: the Yankees did build a Dodger Stadium next to the
Speaker 8: Dodger Stadium and then tear down the old Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 8: I don't think they considered that, but I know one
Speaker 8: thing that was considered, and as a matter of fact,
Speaker 8: I think it's still in play. So when McCord owned
Speaker 8: the Dodgers, there were two things he desperately needed, neither
Speaker 8: of which he got. Number one, he needed to have
Speaker 8: access to the new TV deal because the TV revenue
Speaker 8: would have saved them, but he ran out of time
Speaker 8: and had to sell before the TV deal came due.
Speaker 7: Okay, so that got them. The other thing he desperately
Speaker 7: wanted to.
Speaker 8: I wonder, what's stall that TV deal? The other one
Speaker 8: wasn't up yet. Oh, the other one wasn't up yet. Yeah,
Speaker 8: the other one wasn't up. It's like he ran out
Speaker 8: of there and it wasn't getting renewed. No, you know,
Speaker 8: like sometimes it gets renewed a little a year earlier. No, no, no,
Speaker 8: talk about it. This was not getting renewed.
Speaker 7: And the other thing he desperately wanted to do. And
Speaker 7: when you look at what they've turned in for the Tram,
Speaker 7: the infamous Tram re union station what that really is.
Speaker 7: They want to develop part of the parking lot at
Speaker 7: Dodger Stadium and make it sort of a ballpark village
Speaker 7: or make it like the area around the Rangers Stadium
Speaker 7: now in Texas. They want restaurants or balls.
Speaker 8: A little bit where they've got it all around well,
Speaker 8: Kevin Yards and Baltimore is like that.
Speaker 7: Everybody's doing it. That's really what they wanted.
Speaker 8: That's what live like that, that's what they want or
Speaker 8: sofar like yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7: That's what the plan was. Will develop some of the
Speaker 7: parking lot land and turn it into a revenue stream
Speaker 7: and a destination where people go all year long. Yeah,
Speaker 7: that was the plan, but then everything fell apart. Now
Speaker 7: this tram I think that's part of the plan as well.
Speaker 7: And if that happens in the parking lots at Dodger Stadium,
Speaker 7: of course Frank McCourt gets his bag money because he
Speaker 7: held onto half of I think the revenue from the
Speaker 7: parking lots. That was part of the deal. Smart for him.
Speaker 7: But then that's the Dodgers too. That land gets developed.
Speaker 7: Is it going to happen tomorrow?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 7: And may might it never happen? Possibly?
Speaker 8: I could see that happening. Look, what they did in
Speaker 8: centerfield is amazing if you you know, obviously you know
Speaker 8: it's been there for now a year, but to be
Speaker 8: able to walk around the entire stadium now and walk
Speaker 8: out in center field and have the restaurants and the
Speaker 8: trucks and everything out there and just spend the day
Speaker 8: out there. A lot of people don't even go into
Speaker 8: the game. You know, you can watch the game out there.
Speaker 8: You can hang out out there and sit at a
Speaker 8: bar out there and do your thing.
Speaker 7: I could see where there may be a hotel go up.
Speaker 8: I could see something like that, where there might be
Speaker 8: you know, some some retail go up out there, where
Speaker 8: it turns into, like you said, more of a destination
Speaker 8: where people can come on off days and spend time
Speaker 8: there like they do with some of the other places.
Speaker 8: You know, Patriots. It's a whole mall there, you know.
Speaker 8: So it's it could go that direction. They certainly they
Speaker 8: certainly have the ability with land around it that they
Speaker 8: could do whatever they want.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I think that ultimately, if it's not secretly
Speaker 7: being planned right now, yeah, I think that's a plan.
Speaker 7: And if it is, it's smart. Alardy Morena wanted to
Speaker 7: do that at Anaheim. That was the deal. Remember when
Speaker 7: Dartie Mourina want to give him to land, right, the
Speaker 7: land was an issue. There's a lot happened there. What
Speaker 7: happened there Rodney was a complete mess where the city
Speaker 7: of Anaheim and the Angels are negotiating. But if I
Speaker 7: remember the story correctly, the mayor of Anaheim was basically
Speaker 7: like talking to the Angels on the side and telling
Speaker 7: them what they would do and what they wouldn't do
Speaker 7: during the negotiation. And he's representing the city so he
Speaker 7: can't do that. Then the FBI was called in and
Speaker 7: then the mayor was ousted, and then the whole thing
Speaker 7: fell apart because the deal is ardy Moreno threatened to
Speaker 7: move to I think Tustin. Then they had been the
Speaker 7: Tustin Angels of Anaheim of Los Angeles, which was not
Speaker 7: going to happen. Then I think he threatened to move
Speaker 7: to Long Beach, so they would have been in the
Speaker 7: Anaheim Long Beach Angels of Los Angeles because he wasn't
Speaker 7: getting a stadium d because here's the deal with stadiums.
Speaker 7: You know, aside from the fact that you need more
Speaker 7: sources to generate revenue, what does that mean you need
Speaker 7: more suitees, you need more club seats, things like that.
Speaker 7: After twenty five years, when you built a stadium, the
Speaker 7: infrastructure starts to crumble, so what so the plumbing doesn't work,
Speaker 7: so what happens to the toilets. It's that kind of
Speaker 7: thing why you have to keep updating the stadium. Money
Speaker 7: is spent on things that people don't even know. It's
Speaker 7: like owning a home. If you've had your home for
Speaker 7: forty years, are you're telling me the air conditioning never
Speaker 7: stop working? Do you change the filters in the air conditioning?
Speaker 8: Of course you do, which is amazing how they were
Speaker 8: able to put like a band aid on the Colisseum
Speaker 8: for it, you know, and make it what it is now.
Speaker 8: Because if you sit on that one side where the
Speaker 8: press boxes and the suites are now, it looks like
Speaker 8: a new, state of the art kind of stadium, you know.
Speaker 8: But if you're on the other side, it looks like
Speaker 8: the old Colisseum. But the fact that it's lasted the
Speaker 8: test of time. But you're right they you know, think
Speaker 8: about how many times they've gone in and had to
Speaker 8: kind of reinforce the structure or you know, change the plumbing.
Speaker 8: And do whatever they had to do for the coliseum,
Speaker 8: which they did and they finally remodeled it, and the
Speaker 8: US he put the money into it to do it,
Speaker 8: to make it their own. Otherwise that stadium was not
Speaker 8: gonna last.
Speaker 7: No, it was falling apart before USC did that. Yeah,
Speaker 7: that was a dump. Sorry, I know the Olympics were there.
Speaker 7: That was a dump. Absolutely, So you know, USC got it,
Speaker 7: took it over, fixed it up. Good to go about
Speaker 7: with the Angels already Moreno and Anaheim. His deal was
Speaker 7: it was pretty simple. I'll sign a new lease. I
Speaker 7: just want the land. Yeah, give me the land, I'll
Speaker 7: develop the land. I'll sign the lease, I'll fix the stadium. Done.
Speaker 7: Now we can all shake hands and be happy. That
Speaker 7: was what he wanted. Yeah, But then it all fell
Speaker 7: apart when the mayor was secretly telling the Angel stuff
Speaker 7: and the FBI came in and it all went the hell.
Speaker 7: So that was the end of that. Seriously, that's what happened.
Speaker 7: Don can't can the can the Angels ever turn it around?
Speaker 8: Unless would put it this way, does it take a
Speaker 8: is going to take a new owner with deep, deep
Speaker 8: pockets to turn it around.
Speaker 7: Here's the problem with the Angels. The Angels have a
Speaker 7: very good fan base, very good and again when Audio
Speaker 7: Moreno called them the Anaheim Angels of Los Angeles, if
Speaker 7: I was an Angel fan, I would have felt like
Speaker 7: I just got them off, lap right in the face,
Speaker 7: pissed them off down in Orange because Orange County.
Speaker 8: You know, if you live here long enough, you know
Speaker 8: Orange County is an area in its own it's LA beautiful.
Speaker 8: It's separate than LA. It's not LA. They don't want
Speaker 8: to consider be in LA or anything like LA. They're
Speaker 8: Orange County, right, and they take a lot of pride
Speaker 8: in that. So you're right when he did that and
Speaker 8: said we don't want to be Anaheim Angels, We're going
Speaker 8: to be the La Angels. That was a slap in
Speaker 8: the face from everybody from Newport to Santa Anna to Anaheim,
Speaker 8: everything down there.
Speaker 7: It was a slap in the face of those people.
Speaker 7: Anybody that ever spent one cent going to an Angel
Speaker 7: game just got slapped right in the face. Yeah. So
Speaker 7: they still have a very good fan base. But what
Speaker 7: do they need, Well, they probably do need somebody with
Speaker 7: really deep pockets, but moreover, somebody with a knowledge of
Speaker 7: how to operate the franchise in this decade to come
Speaker 7: in and rebuild it. But here's the problem. Now, if
Speaker 7: we had this kind well since Goggenheim's been here, we
Speaker 7: probably couldn't. If we had the conversation fifteen years ago,
Speaker 7: it would have been a very different fix. Your problem
Speaker 7: now is, no matter what you do, Goliath is up
Speaker 7: the road, This giant monster is up the road.
Speaker 8: What if you are become another If you're another Goliath
Speaker 8: that comes in and if you can't be can't they
Speaker 8: can't lie. No, that's not gonna happen. You can't compete
Speaker 8: with the Dodgers. I'm talking about from a deep pocket standpoint,
Speaker 8: like you know, like with the Cohen with the Mets, right,
Speaker 8: he's gonna spend the money to do He's gonna rival
Speaker 8: the Yankees and the Dodgers.
Speaker 7: And when it comes to spending money, you don't do
Speaker 7: what it takes. But he's not forty miles away from
Speaker 7: the other team. No, And basically the same market, is
Speaker 7: in the same market.
Speaker 8: And it's tough because the Yankees are the Yankees and
Speaker 8: they'll always be the Yankees. But he's carved out, they
Speaker 8: carved the Mets got their own little fan base there,
Speaker 8: they got their they got their big fan base with it.
Speaker 8: When it's on Long Island, Queens, it's all Mets. There's
Speaker 8: a lot of Mets fans in New York.
Speaker 7: But here's the difference, Rodney and I and I hear
Speaker 7: you and I've been to City Field you have. I've
Speaker 7: been a Yankee stadium you have. Both are beautiful and
Speaker 7: both great experiences. By the way, Absolutely, here's the problem.
Speaker 7: The Dodgers have Otani. Now they have the best player there,
Speaker 7: and I don't know where the next one of you
Speaker 7: him is. If the Angels were to find another one
Speaker 7: of him, the same person they lost and then started
Speaker 7: to be competitive, now we'll have a conversation. But until
Speaker 7: that point, and Otani is here for like ten more
Speaker 7: years or eleven years, I don't know how many years
Speaker 7: he's here, He's here forever. This is it. Uh, they can't.
Speaker 8: They can't, but and and and well they can't. But
Speaker 8: here's the thing. Do you do you believe that. Let's
Speaker 8: take for instance, the Padres have become very competitive in
Speaker 8: the last few years. Absolutely, spend money, yep, right, spend money,
Speaker 8: and and the result of that, you're seeing that. Yeah,
Speaker 8: me took the Dodgers to the brink. Yeah, if the
Speaker 8: Dodgers won, if they if the Dodgers didn't win, and Padres,
Speaker 8: I believe Padres would have won the World Series.
Speaker 7: We didn't believe that.
Speaker 8: All right, We're on the same page, yeah, both of them.
Speaker 8: So they're on the right track. They've got some long
Speaker 8: term guys, you know, locked up. But here you got
Speaker 8: the the Angels that are wedged in between the Dodgers,
Speaker 8: and now the Padres who have figured it out and
Speaker 8: they've got are gone on the right track. And now
Speaker 8: don't you gotta be if you're the Angels, you now
Speaker 8: you're not only compete where you are competing against the
Speaker 8: Dodgers because because it's the Dodgers and you want to
Speaker 8: be LA, but you're also now competing against the Padres
Speaker 8: and you're smacking the middle of that.
Speaker 7: What's interesting is, you know, when I'm out in the
Speaker 7: desert during the playoffs, the Dodgers are playing and we
Speaker 7: work for the Dodger radio station. I mean, the Dodgers
Speaker 7: are playing, they're the LA Dodgers. Do you know how
Speaker 7: many people outside of l A or Southern California proper
Speaker 7: root for the Padres? Do you know how many people
Speaker 7: in the Coachella Valley we're rooting for the Padres. The
Speaker 7: Padres were their team. And every time somebody would say
Speaker 7: something to me, like what are you talking about? What? No,
Speaker 7: the Padres, And it wasn't the Angels. To your point,
Speaker 7: it wasn't the Angels, and the Angels are closer to them. Wow,
Speaker 7: it wasn't the Angels. To your point, it wasn't the Angels.
Speaker 7: It was the Padres. Isn't that amazing when you show
Speaker 7: you what?
Speaker 8: Yeah, when you think about that, you think about it
Speaker 8: catastrophic failure.
Speaker 7: The Angels have done and they won a couple World
Speaker 7: Series in the two thousands. I mean, I don't get it.
Speaker 7: They do.
Speaker 8: Like you mentioned, they have a fan base that they
Speaker 8: just never nurtured. Be who you are, be who you are,
Speaker 8: nurture that. What do you think about them changing that
Speaker 8: name when you think they've just gone back go back
Speaker 8: to the California Angels.
Speaker 7: I didn't gone to the Orange County Angels. I'd become
Speaker 7: the Orange County Angels. Yeah, we're all Orange County, all
Speaker 7: of it, and change our colors to orange and just
Speaker 7: you know, embrace the orange down there. Embrace it. Look
Speaker 7: if you're listening right now in Orange County. You know
Speaker 7: a couple of things. First, there's a lot of people
Speaker 7: in Orange County. I mean, Orange County is down the
Speaker 7: road from La Let's take Orange County and put it
Speaker 7: in any other state. Yeah, it's one of the biggest
Speaker 7: cities in the country. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay, So now we've
Speaker 7: just moved you to wherever and you're a giant city.
Speaker 7: Don't you deserve respect, don't you You know how big
Speaker 7: you are. You know there's people that spend money, and
Speaker 7: you know they're sports fans. You have two teams down there,
Speaker 7: the Ducks that really do care about the community, constantly
Speaker 7: trying to rebuild, but nobody can question their desire to win. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Have they done it right all the time? No? Have
Speaker 7: they done it right part of the time, yes, But
Speaker 7: every year you believe they're gonna give you a shot
Speaker 7: to win. The Ducks. Then you have the Angels. Do
Speaker 7: you think they do it right every year?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 7: Do you think you have a chance to win every year? No?
Speaker 7: Do you believe at the beginning of the season that
Speaker 7: you're going to the playoffs? If you're delusional? If not? No, No.
Speaker 7: And then on top of it, you are lumped in
Speaker 7: and being called Los Angeles, which is the most asenine
Speaker 7: thing anyone could have done. The Anaheim Angels of Los Angeles.
Speaker 7: That's absurd. Even people around the country marketing people. Well,
Speaker 7: we'll just be La and that means we'll be able
Speaker 7: to go out and yeah, there's no mystery to the history.
Speaker 7: Everybody knows the difference. How about you start with this.
Speaker 7: How about the first thing that do is change their
Speaker 7: name back. How about they do that? We know they
Speaker 7: can't win, that's another story. Yeah you can do that.
Speaker 7: What does that cost? Nothing? How much money does that cost?
Speaker 7: Change your name to the Orange County Angels? How about that?
Speaker 7: How about thank you to everybody in Orange County. We
Speaker 7: hear you, we respect you, we think the world of you.
Speaker 7: You're our fan base, and you've been here through good
Speaker 7: and you've been here through bad. So therefore, to say
Speaker 7: thank you, because we know we don't know how to
Speaker 7: build a baseball team that we already know, will change
Speaker 7: the name to Orange County Angels, you will have a
Speaker 7: sense of pride and identity. That's how we'll say thank
Speaker 7: you as we continue to figure out how to build
Speaker 7: a baseball team. How about that I like it.
Speaker 8: I don't Orange County go back to Anaheim more so
Speaker 8: than and maybe Orange County because it's a city and
Speaker 8: they don't hear it. There's no county teams red around
Speaker 8: the country. There's no like, you know, a Maricopa County,
Speaker 8: Mecklenburg County, Maricopa County, Diamondbags.
Speaker 7: You know what I mean.
Speaker 8: You haven't go back to Anaheim. But Anaheim's on the
Speaker 8: map because of Disney. People know Anaheim, they know Anaheim. Well, Kevin,
Speaker 8: you're an Angel fan. What do you think?
Speaker 9: Well, if I lived in Orange County, I think I'd
Speaker 9: rather not be associated with the Angels right now.
Speaker 7: If I could.
Speaker 9: Call yourself whatever you call B l A as much
Speaker 9: as you want, by all means be the B team
Speaker 9: in LA. I don't want to associate myself with that crap.
Speaker 9: How Why should I respect the franchise of the person
Speaker 9: that owns it? Doesn't even respect it? Is the way
Speaker 9: that I will look at it if I live there.
Speaker 9: But I mean that maybe that's just me.
Speaker 8: But were you were as I mean, you don't live
Speaker 8: down in Orange County, but when they changed the name
Speaker 8: and made it La Angels, were you did you feel
Speaker 8: a certain way.
Speaker 9: I thought it was dumb. I guess I sort of
Speaker 9: understood what they were trying to do to Fred's point
Speaker 9: about marketing and all that. But we've talked about it.
Speaker 9: You lived out here long enough, you know there's a
Speaker 9: distinct difference between Orange County and La County, and people
Speaker 9: that live in both counties will let you know about that.
Speaker 7: Absolutely.
Speaker 9: That tells you just how tone deaf or disconnected already
Speaker 9: was from the market. He just didn't know any better.
Speaker 7: All right. Can I just ask you guys both a
Speaker 7: question real quick? And it just struck me. Yeah, are
Speaker 7: we on the air or are we doing a podcast?
Speaker 7: Because we still taking a break? Got a break?
Speaker 9: I didn't want to get you off in a high
Speaker 9: horse there, France.
Speaker 7: We're doing a podcast here. We haven't even taken one break.
Speaker 8: I know, we get on these rolls. This has been
Speaker 8: happening lately. We were getting on these rolls. Man, we
Speaker 8: forget about the time.
Speaker 7: All right, Well, we got to take one quick break now, yep.
Speaker 7: All right. So the guy called in sick at work
Speaker 7: because it was a moment he wanted to remember. He
Speaker 7: went to the parade, then he got fired. Let's talk
Speaker 7: about it.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, oh no, I love some throwback Thursdays. Ronnie
Speaker 8: doing it with the little cool in the Gang to
Speaker 8: say rock and Roll Hall of Fame, Cool in the Gang,
Speaker 8: right on, Roddye Pete, Freddy Rogan on a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 7: Let's go come on our podcast continues. If you're just
Speaker 7: joining us, we've we've taken a new approach to this.
Speaker 7: We just think we're now doing a podcast.
Speaker 9: Well, just keep the language clean, is all I ask A.
Speaker 8: Right, okay, you know what, I don't want to be
Speaker 8: like the Kelsey Brothers. Yeah, poor Freddie Freeman. I don't
Speaker 8: know if you guys saw that when he was on
Speaker 8: with them. They're throwing F bombs left and right, and
Speaker 8: Freddie doesn't cuss, right, Freddie's like, you know, mis a
Speaker 8: good guy.
Speaker 7: They're they're fing them this and then what are you
Speaker 7: effing thinking about? F? And this? Freddy effing home grand
Speaker 7: slam F and win it and walk off.
Speaker 8: E F and Freddy smiling.
Speaker 7: So none of that, none of that.
Speaker 9: None of that police.
Speaker 7: Okay, Yeah, Well, you know what, we're redefining the world
Speaker 7: of radio right here there we go in our own way.
Speaker 7: We're cre hitting an on air podcast. So a Dodger
Speaker 7: fan goes to to the World Series parade, and we
Speaker 7: said before the parade, hey, you know, if you want
Speaker 7: to go to the parade, you should. That could be
Speaker 7: a once in a lifetime thing for a lot of
Speaker 7: people that couldn't afford to go to a game. The
Speaker 7: parade is their chance to see the fans, their chance
Speaker 7: to revel and celebrate, their chance to say thank you,
Speaker 7: and their chance to feel included. So we said, you
Speaker 7: know what, you should go to the parade. If you
Speaker 7: want to go to the parade, you should take the
Speaker 7: day off from work and go to the parade because
Speaker 7: when will you have that opportunity again. It's like if
Speaker 7: you had a job at goat, but you could go
Speaker 7: to the Olympics. One ticket to the Olympics, let's say
Speaker 7: the finals of swimming and Michael Phelps or something like that.
Speaker 7: Or your job is you work behind the counter at
Speaker 7: the pharmacy. What would you do? I would say, go
Speaker 7: to the Olympics because that's a once in a lifetime opportunity.
Speaker 7: You're not going to remember you're drafting.
Speaker 8: Predirect your lawsuits at Fred Rogan at AM five seventy
Speaker 8: not Rodney Pete at AM five to seventy. Fred suggested
Speaker 8: that you leave work, take off work, so any paybacks,
Speaker 8: any gofundmes go directly to Fred Rogan.
Speaker 9: Fred said, don't pick up grandma's pills from the pharmacy,
Speaker 9: go to the parade.
Speaker 8: Go to the parade, and then get them on the
Speaker 8: way home. Then get the pills on the way home.
Speaker 8: Grandma needs her pills. Fred told me I should take off.
Speaker 8: Fred told me I should leave work. Fred told me
Speaker 8: I should call in sick today. It's Fred's vault. Grandma
Speaker 8: needs Listen. There are two things Grandma needs every night,
Speaker 8: her pills and her bourbon. Make sure you have both.
Speaker 9: Make sure she doesn't take them both at the same time.
Speaker 7: By the way, too, don't do them. Tell Grandma take
Speaker 7: them pill in the morning. It works better, Kevin, are
Speaker 7: you talking about you? You gotta mix it. So anyway,
Speaker 7: this was on social media. A fan did not want
Speaker 7: his identity uh known. But anyway, he did take off work.
Speaker 7: It was a small business. They needed him at work,
Speaker 7: but he took off and went to the parade and
Speaker 7: they fired him. They fired him because he took the
Speaker 7: day off. Granted, small business, so perhaps every single person counts,
Speaker 7: but they fired him.
Speaker 9: The business, by the way, closed that day because he
Speaker 9: wasn't working.
Speaker 7: Well, didn't give everybody the day off. There's a parade?
Speaker 7: How many?
Speaker 8: How many is everybody? If the business closed because he
Speaker 8: wasn't working? Is that a small business?
Speaker 9: Not as small as it gets society.
Speaker 7: I didn't get that detail of the story.
Speaker 8: So it's uh, the business closed because he did not
Speaker 8: come to work, and because he didn't come to work,
Speaker 8: they could not function on that day. Right, He's a
Speaker 8: very important part of that business working. It wasn't like
Speaker 8: an employee like you mentioned for a clerk at a
Speaker 8: pharmacy or a cash out person at at at Walmart.
Speaker 8: This was vital for the business to stay open that day.
Speaker 8: So they closed up, and they closed down, Okay, And
Speaker 8: I don't know what the business was. I understand it. No,
Speaker 8: I understand every every day counts and every day means revenue.
Speaker 8: But I mean, what are you the National Security Agency?
Speaker 8: You can't close for one day. If you close for
Speaker 8: one day, one day.
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Speaker 7: In terms ofpply, there's three hundred and sixty five days
Speaker 7: you close for one. What's gonna happen one day?
Speaker 4: Are you?
Speaker 7: A surgical side question?
Speaker 8: Is what happens if it's like a legitimate thing that
Speaker 8: he gets sick and Katie can't come to work, do
Speaker 8: they close then too as well? So there's nobody else
Speaker 8: that can fill in, there's no substitute, there's no other
Speaker 8: anybody else working.
Speaker 7: Well, I think what happened was he did call in sick,
Speaker 7: but then they found out he went to the parade. Yeah,
Speaker 7: but I'm saying in general, if it was legitimate that
Speaker 7: he called in sick.
Speaker 8: If they couldn't open because he missed, meaning he was
Speaker 8: so valuable that they can't open their business because he's
Speaker 8: not there. What happens when it's legitimate and he's not there?
Speaker 8: They close down on those other days as well. That's
Speaker 8: a valid point. I don't think they do. The story
Speaker 8: didn't indicate that.
Speaker 7: Weird. So if they don't close on those days, but
Speaker 7: they fire him for going to the parade, and by
Speaker 7: all accounts, we don't have all of the information.
Speaker 8: Wait, not a bad employee. What he called in sick
Speaker 8: and they found out, and they and then he posted
Speaker 8: it on Instagram. Whatever, if you call in sick and
Speaker 8: you're gonna go to the parade, then don't post it
Speaker 8: on Instagram or Twitter or ex or whatever it is.
Speaker 7: Don't post See, well, that's the other part of it.
Speaker 7: Maybe then he did deserve it because he was stupid.
Speaker 9: That's what That's kind of why I feeled you would
Speaker 9: land on this thread to.
Speaker 7: Be honest, because he because why would you do that?
Speaker 9: Totally yourself?
Speaker 7: Man, he got a video, Hey look at me, I'm
Speaker 7: at the parade. I'm dancing. He got a medello in
Speaker 7: his hand.
Speaker 8: He's just dancing and cheering in I'm here, baby, I'm
Speaker 8: here baby.
Speaker 7: He outed himself. You know what he did. He turned
Speaker 7: himself in. He turned himself in. He committed the crime,
Speaker 7: and then walked into the police station and said, I
Speaker 7: get it. As a matter of fact, there's a picture
Speaker 7: of me doing it. Look exactly, how do they know
Speaker 7: unless he did it right? How did they know somebody
Speaker 7: else see him? I mean that highly doubt is a
Speaker 7: sea of a million people.
Speaker 8: How did they know, Well, nobody someone could have seen
Speaker 8: them because they would have to take the day off too,
Speaker 8: exactly exactly, So only way they see him is if
Speaker 8: he talks about it and lets people know, hey, I
Speaker 8: went to that parade.
Speaker 7: Here's pictures.
Speaker 9: Or he was with a friend and a friend tagged
Speaker 9: a minute or something and it popped up. You know
Speaker 9: that could happen too.
Speaker 7: Videos of him cheering and chanting aren't going to help
Speaker 7: him if he files a lawsuit. You don't say it, No,
Speaker 7: definitely not gonna help him. Well, I certainly changed my
Speaker 7: opinion in the last five minutes about this. I'd give
Speaker 7: the guy a break. He wants to go to the parade.
Speaker 8: But again, on top of that, though, Yeah, but how
Speaker 8: hard ass are you if you're going to guy missing
Speaker 8: a day when it's a Dodger parade. I mean, first
Speaker 8: of all, give people day off if you want to go. Hey,
Speaker 8: anybody wants to go to parade, You guys gonna have
Speaker 8: the day off today? Would have the day off when
Speaker 8: you do that? If you were the boss, I actually
Speaker 8: I would, Yeah, I would. I would say this doesn't
Speaker 8: happen very often. If you want to be a part
Speaker 8: of it, go well, we don't have enough people to
Speaker 8: keep the printing company open. The printing company open today,
Speaker 8: all right, everybody will get their printing on Monday, or
Speaker 8: will work tomorrow. Everybody go today, but we got to
Speaker 8: work tomorrow.
Speaker 7: Go today. Then you got to work on Saturday, right,
Speaker 7: and let's just get our work done and we're done.
Speaker 7: How about that approach?
Speaker 9: Well, you have to ask for that, not just use
Speaker 9: a sick day and say, oh man, I just don't
Speaker 9: go today.
Speaker 7: It's not working.
Speaker 8: It's forced to use a sick day because the employer
Speaker 8: didn't say, hey, if you guys want to go to
Speaker 8: the parade, go to the parade.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I mean, the employer might not be a baseball fan
Speaker 9: or a sports fan. If you go to the employer
Speaker 9: and say, hey, look, I've been a Dodger fan my
Speaker 9: entire life. I've been waiting my whole life for this.
Speaker 9: Can I just have a day? One day?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 9: Maybe the employer is an a hole and he would
Speaker 9: say no anyway. But I mean, if you try to
Speaker 9: appeal to his emotion, maybe he says, yeah, go ahead,
Speaker 9: take a day.
Speaker 7: It's maybe as a problem is that he's a Giants fan.
Speaker 7: There you go.
Speaker 9: Well, if that's the case, he should be out of
Speaker 9: business anyway.
Speaker 7: So, as our podcast continues, Dan Whitey will join us
Speaker 7: at the top of the hour, we'll talk about Lebron
Speaker 7: and the Lakers and the importance are lacked thereof a
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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, that's the beautiful comparable Dion Warwick bringing
Speaker 8: us back. Also welcome her to the Roll Hall of Fame.
Speaker 8: Would have thought you've been in Barton by now. But
Speaker 8: congratulations Rodney, Pete fred Rogan on a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 7: Let's go Freddy. Come on, hey, Rodney, just for a
Speaker 7: couple of minutes, because you were off when we lost
Speaker 7: John Robinson and you knew John Robinson. I don't know
Speaker 7: if you played for him. But I know you knew him.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I didn't. I did not play for him. He
Speaker 8: left the year I got to USC. I was recruited
Speaker 8: by he and his staff to go to go to
Speaker 8: USC and then he if you remember, he took a
Speaker 8: quick job as the assistant athletic director at USC and
Speaker 8: then the next year he became the head coach of
Speaker 8: the Rams. So he left the year I got to
Speaker 8: to USC in eighty four, but certainly got to know
Speaker 8: him over the years. You know, you know, guys like
Speaker 8: John Robinson, John McKay, legendary guys. Once you do coach
Speaker 8: at USC, you're you're a trojan for life. And that's
Speaker 8: kind of what we always say. Once you're you know,
Speaker 8: you are a trojan for life. If you stepped foot
Speaker 8: on that campus and you did anything there and what
Speaker 8: what a what a what a great man and a tremendous,
Speaker 8: tremendous motivator. And that was probably for me, probably only
Speaker 8: was the only downside of me going to USC, And
Speaker 8: at least when it came time for me to go
Speaker 8: to US, he knowing that he was leaving, and Ted
Speaker 8: Tolner took over for for John Robinson, but being recruited
Speaker 8: by him talking to him when I was in high school.
Speaker 8: North Turner was the assistant coach at the time that
Speaker 8: recruited me for him, but I got to meet him
Speaker 8: as well.
Speaker 7: And this was a great man. I mean, you know,
Speaker 7: he was the guy that, uh that I.
Speaker 8: Remember walking the sidelines when I was old enough, because
Speaker 8: I I you know, you hear stories about John McKay
Speaker 8: and how great he was. But he coached in the
Speaker 8: sixties and early seventies, and so by the time I
Speaker 8: was old enough to start really you know, taking notice
Speaker 8: of college football and started liking college football, in particular
Speaker 8: liking USC, John Robinson was a coach in the mid
Speaker 8: seventies and the late seventies and the early eighties, and
Speaker 8: I just I remember him in those teams and all
Speaker 8: the players and him walking the sidelines and just being
Speaker 8: a force on the sidelines, and then hearing guys talk
Speaker 8: about them. I don't know, certainly, certainly guys that played
Speaker 8: for him at USC and then on for the Rams,
Speaker 8: but certainly guys at USC. I don't know if there's
Speaker 8: a coach that people talk about more and beloved more
Speaker 8: than John Robinson. He was loved by everybody that played
Speaker 8: for him, and you could have been a starter, a backup,
Speaker 8: a walk on, or whatever. Everybody I talked to that
Speaker 8: ever played for John Robinson absolutely loved him. And I
Speaker 8: think a big deal of that is that he treated
Speaker 8: everybody fairly. He believed in everyone, He made you work,
Speaker 8: and he got the best out of everyone that played
Speaker 8: for him. And just can't say enough about him. And
Speaker 8: then later on in life he still was a very
Speaker 8: avid Trojan supporter and loved USC through and through and
Speaker 8: just a really really great man, really great man. You know,
Speaker 8: obviously you know, lived a full life. I mean he
Speaker 8: was was he ninety one or eighty nine something like that.
Speaker 8: I believe it was lived a full life, but certainly
Speaker 8: one of the greatest Trojans of them all when you
Speaker 8: think about his record, what he meant to USC football
Speaker 8: in the in the seventies.
Speaker 7: Just a just a great man. When you first met him,
Speaker 7: right because you were being recruited and you mentioned, well
Speaker 7: then I got to meet him. Yeah, what was the
Speaker 7: first meeting? Like it was?
Speaker 8: It was it was kind of what you heard a
Speaker 8: little bit about USC, but you didn't know until you
Speaker 8: actually felt it. But there was an aura about him,
Speaker 8: you know, it was like a larger than life kind
Speaker 8: of feeling because, like I said, I used to you
Speaker 8: know when I was in middle school and early in
Speaker 8: high school, would I would see him walking up and
Speaker 8: down the sidelines, whether it be them facing UCLA or
Speaker 8: or in the Rose Bowl games and him leading that
Speaker 8: team out of the tunnel. It was just a feeling
Speaker 8: of excitement. And then he talked the way he talked
Speaker 8: about USC and the things that he said that will
Speaker 8: still resonate. It's like, we want you to play for us,
Speaker 8: but just remember, if you don't play for us, you're
Speaker 8: gonna have to play against us. And it wasn't like
Speaker 8: it was and it wasn't said like in a cocky way.
Speaker 8: Bred It was more like, just get ready knowing that
Speaker 8: you're gonna have to play against the best, so understand
Speaker 8: that if you go somewhere else, you're gonna have to
Speaker 8: play against us, and that's not something that you want.
Speaker 8: And it was from a place of confidence, which from
Speaker 8: a young kids standpoint, you absolutely love that.
Speaker 7: You just you ate it up. And I did too.
Speaker 7: I ate it up, I ate it up. I was like, oh,
Speaker 7: this is this is the guy. This is a guy.
Speaker 8: So you know, it was it was crazy I remember
Speaker 8: the last game and the cosseume when they played against
Speaker 8: uh uh, they played against Notre Dame. The big headline
Speaker 8: was win one for the fat guy. He was going
Speaker 8: out and they did. They ended up winning and beating
Speaker 8: Notre Dame, and it was a big sind off for him.
Speaker 8: And you know, obviously then went to the Rams and
Speaker 8: had great success with the Rams, went to a few
Speaker 8: championship games, and unfortunately they were playing at a time
Speaker 8: where Joe Montana and the forty nine ers were doing
Speaker 8: their thing too, so it was tough for them to
Speaker 8: get over that hump.
Speaker 7: But man, he had some great teams at the Rams
Speaker 7: as well. All right, next we'll bring on Dan Wiki,
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